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>Thought the Pilgrim Pupa would be easy prey
>>174596803

>The Fire Fades trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKaHQVDjJZQ

>Patch 1.13
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75840229415620604

>Ringed City items checklist
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>Ringed City pre-launch media
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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>dragonsis with max thick legs wearing witch high-heels
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1st for SL80 is a meme
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BaseC+D38

Set that to 1 and freeze it. Summon as many white phantoms as you want and gank reds.
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>>174618961
>furries

yiff in hell profligate
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I'm so relieved to hear Zullie is alright.
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What's your favourite build, /dsg/?

I wanna start a new build where I'll just go through the game a few times getting all the achievements.
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Ever since I left the swamp (you)
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>>174619136
Literally doesn't matter with the respec glitch. Go everything.
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>just realized that when I invade hosts that have phantoms, those phantoms are probably a significantly higher SL than I or the host even without password summoning
What the fuck man
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>>174619201
What glitch?
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>>174619201
>respec glitch

Explain?

I'm retarded because I've never heard of this
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so the memes were true. DaS2 really is shit.
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>>174619201
huh?
>>174619136
Anything with 60 FTH and DUES VULT
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>>174619136
right now a 23/40/40int build

love my razzle dazzle weapons
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>>174619127
>t. smelly dumb raider scum
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>still not fixed
ayyy
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>>174618892
Is there a better pve spell than gnaw?

I doubt it.

Share your experiences melting bosses with gnaw.
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>>174619297

Stop playing the romhack version.
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>+10 refined LKGS with lightning clutch and lightning blade
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>>174619349
What, the wolves treat you like one of them?
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>dragonsis pyromancer
>demon scar
>dragonhead shield
>black flame
>CBV

Is the fan worth a shit in PvP?
What rings should I run besides the 2 pyro ones?
Now that dragon form gives the same raw def as clothing, should I go full dragon and use roar to punish shields and parry attempts?
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STEAM RELEASE WHEN?
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>>174619320
Bless you, brother.
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BROADSWORD
OR
ASTORA SS
RAW
broadsword does more, but shorter and doesn't have the thrust. wutdo. does it just come down to preference?
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>>174619425
They "aggro" on you but since you're not a valid target they won't attack you. You can kite them to the host as if you're a purple.
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>>174619132
Who the hell is zoey and does she have nudes?
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>>174619425
WOLVES HUNT IN A PACK
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>finally beat Midir solo

I feel proud but it took longer since for some reason he didn't stagger

whats up with that, I thought it was supposed to be scripted
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>>174619470
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/94174/


Fire Fades edition is just a Deluxe Edition for consoles.
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>>174619268
>>174619285
>>174619320
donate $5
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>>174619349
You've trained them well, Arisen.
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>>174619297
>play das1 solo blind
>fall in love
>friends tell me to get das2 to play with them
>fuck yeh Im on board with that
>why does this feel so fucking weird?
>youll get used to it
>I do
>finish and move on to das3
>oh man this shit is awesome
>go back to das2
>immediately disgusted by literally everything about it
>dont last 5 minutes before i uninstall

it was never a meme for me. The game is just shit wrapped in trash stuck in a hobos grundle on a hot day
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>>174619517
What weapon did you use and where were you hitting him?
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>>174618989
>Neat. Thanks anons. Should I run with the Leo Ring?
Abso fucking lutely, my man.
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>>174619497
Only if you crawl at her heals and wear a funny hat. Also you're sharing her with three other guys.
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>>174619517
Were you hitting only the head?
>tfw still can't figure out exactly what triggers it
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>Finally realized that the corvians in farron keep are praying to the dream tree
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>>174618892
that fire fades trailer is pure cringe.
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>>174619483
At this point a raw longsword is better than a raw ASS. The ASS is pretty much useless now unless you want to make it bleed or poison and IMO there are better weapons for either. I think that FROM should've just raised the FTH requirement to use the sword, instead they nerfed it into obsolescence.
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>>174619349
Doggos a cute
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>>174619395

Someone from /dsg/ summoned me and a gnaw user to help with a boss fight. The gnaw user made me feel very inadequate.
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>>174619447
Sage Ring, obviously.
>tfw /dsg/ awoke your scalie fetish
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>>174619554
>Fire Fades is $50
>Deluxe Edition is $85

Scamco at it again.
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>>174619416
>clutch rings

Also why is everyone freaking out about this shit all of a sudden? lightning blade buffed lkgs has always been good
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>>174619615
>>174619642
Wolf Knight Greatsword

and I was hitting the head for the most part but sometimes the tail when he was doing the fire breath attack
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>>174619667
What corvians? There are no corvians in farron keep as far as I know.
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Arena broken for anyone else?
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>Hated the fact that the stunlock in pvp meme got big since DaS2
>The gimmick of TRC weapons is that they stunlock you and do fuckton of combos

Granted that the Souls games NEED stunlocks so fights don't take forever, but fucking hell is it lazy as fuck.
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>>174619746
Deluxe will probably get cheaper when the console version is out
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>>174619595
hey ds2 is the best game ever. ds3 is teh worst one. Stop slinging bait
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The Fire Fades edition is just a version that comes with all the DLC, right
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>>174619395
An underleveled gnaw user summond me for friede. I use a bleed weapon. We killed the boss in a minute or two.
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>>174619595
Try playing DS1 cunt
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>>174619696
It's a fucking mess. It feels like they had a concept going and then realized they only had a few hours to actually make they trailer and just slapped shit together along a loose theme.
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>>174619554
Is TFF a physical only release ? Deluxe is still $85 on the PS Store and TFF is not available digiatlly.
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>>174619836
no it's a super polished version of the game.
It's a finished version with no further patches ever.
It has everything in it. Buy it if you want the complete package
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How do I use great swords / UGS's?

It seems like people either backstab fish me or just roll through my 90 year attacks. And are never dumb enough to try to stagger me through my super poise attacks
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>>174619836
Yes.
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>>174619836
Comes with a free handmaid bj, too.
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>>174619920
Japan got a digital FFE release.
I do not believe the west is getting one.
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>>174619754
clutch rings are reason why people eat 1100 CSS because they don't know about PVP "debuff"
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>>174619802
The ones just after the gate that requires snuffing out 3 flames.
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So, the Fire Keeper hatefucking is confirmed for canon ending?
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>>174619820
I can't wait for the rest of you ignorant fools to finally take notice of the true gank meta

>combo weapons paired with caster phantoms to ensure nukes land.

>any touch leads to death from nukes
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>>174619802
Theres a story teller and 4 or 5 corvians after the big double door before the dickwraiths adn keep perimeter bonfire

>>174619830
As long as were talking opinions do you prefer cheese or spinach manicotti?
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>>174620021
what's PVP "debuff"
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>>174619696
>spoils abunch of bosses and one of the endings

who the fuck approved of this
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>>174619728
i just need something early for pyro. broadsword and ASS are right near eachother and haven't come across a longsword at all unless i farm it
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>>174619939
Since they can't interrupt you, players are forced to wait for you to make a move and punish your mistakes.
Winning with ultras means playing mind games with the people trying to play mind games with you. It's all about tricking people into attacking when you aren't actually vulnerable and baiting them into situations that work in your favour.

PvP will ultras is objectively more involved than other weapons/playstyles because your attacks are slow and easy to dodge while also being easy to punish, and your opponent has no incentive to take risks against you.
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>>174619742
For the 4th: RoFAP3 or life ring 2?
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REMINDER, ALL PC PLAYERS AKA CHEATER S C U M ARE NOT ALLOWED ITT

THANKS ;)
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>>174619939
If they are doing all 3 of the things you just said, you really don't have many options. Best you can do is try to make hard reads on where they are going to roll or when they are going to attack, and try to swing one more time than they expect you to, to catch them when they think you're done. Make sure the weapon you're using has a decent heavy attack/rolling heavy so you can throw that in the mix too.

If they play scared enough you're shit out of luck, though
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>>174619893
read my post and then read yours. das1 was the first souls I played and made me fall in love with the series
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>>174620106
>summon perfect gank like this after Pontiff
>farm reds/whoever for hours without any deaths
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>>174620134
Certain things in the game have their effect changed in pvp.
Clutch rings reduce your defense by a much greater amount when facing other players and have their damage bonus heavily penalized.
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>>174620184
I haven't played ds3 yet ;)
I'm waiting for FFE to get to torrent sites so I can play it for free :D
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>>174619470
The EU PC release of TFF has a Steam installer of the Deluxe Edition, the difference being that you pay $50 instead of the $85 you normally pay for the Deluxe Edition. I think they'll reduce the Deluxe Edition's price soon.
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>>174620224
so clutch rings are actually useless?
If they're gonna balance some weapons for PVP only why do they then nerf other weapons for both PVP and PVE?
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Everything in this game just deals too much damage.
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What's the best way to farm the Smelter Hammer?
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>implying pchain isn't going to get nerfed

How do you think From are going to go about it? We all know they have a consistent habit over over-buffing followed by over-nerfing. I can't imagine they'd simply revert it.
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reminder that sirris is a character made to show us how shit most players are (needs a buff to deal damage, uses estoc, cant fight 1v1)
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>>174620180
Well, Favor gives you some stamina and vitality so probably that.
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>he doesn't play a pure pyro build

ASHES SEEKETH EMBERS
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>>174620378
I'm pretty sure you can get it off the two guys by the Lowermost Floor bonfire.
Either way, it's a rare drop.
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>>174620331
Please don't do this to me
I wanted to play the game tonight rather than sit and plan out DD builds like an autist but now I'm totally going to godfuckingdamnit
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How exactly do covenants like the Darkmoon work? It says you automatically are summoned when there's an invader but I've been waiting for an hour and nothing. The covenant sign in the top left is blinking so I've been queued I guess, I just never get summoned.
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>>174620362
Because From are bakas. They don't play own games. You clearly missed ebin Acid Surge buff and instant nerf one hour later beyond bottom
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>>174620496
>playing pure pyro
Most boring shit ever. God damn. Everything just kept dying.
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>>174620530
Can they? I assumed they couldn't because they weren't using it.
Time to join the Company of Champions, I guess.
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>trailer shows a scene from the Firekeeper stomp ending
>some retards in the comments think it's a new ending added in TFF
Are people really not aware of this ?
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>>174620397
>they buff Chain
>but ignore Clutch rings
Prepare for worse. Something like -60% absorption
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All the enemies in ds2 DLC are resistant to everything except physical damage right?
Why does from hate magic?
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What the fuck happened. Was invading people a few days ago. Then I leave for exams until today. Bang out a low level champ gundyr for hawk ring this morning and now there's no one to invade and the bonfires have no markers next to them. Wtf is this shit
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>>174620496
Most fun shit ever. Hanging around Poniffs ganking or invading. Everything just kept fucking dying.
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>>174620563
Welcome to the Blades of the Darkmoon. Grab a Symbol of Avarice, a Covetous Gold Serpent ring, a Crystal Sage's Rapier, and get to killing Silver Knights.
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>>174620714
They want you to git gud
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>>174620697
"reddit"
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>>174620697
people are bluepilled.
They don't listen to kaathe.
They've never had the guts to kill the firekeeper
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>>174620697
>people don't know the meme ending exists
so?
don't tell me you actually GOT the meme ending
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>>174620714
Because magic literally destroys everything in the base game, and literally every build in DaS2 involves at least one school of casting. They had to make the DLCs harder somehow.
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>>174620739
What SL/System?
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>>174620817
so I'll git gud if I run out of spells because they don't take enough damage?
I'm using the abyss ring, clear bluestone +2, dark clutch ring and 3rd dragon ring with a +5 sunset staff. And my spells take too many shots to kill faggots at eleum loyce
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Someone make a rival for cowboy Tanaka here.
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>>174620991
What are you talkin about? I beat Gael spamming soul arrows
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>antiquated plain garb lets you see most of the tits
I wish there was a boob slider. FromSoft should just go full-on sexualized anime for the next souls game.
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>>174620993
Fuck Im at work but I instantaneously imagined a native warrior build for your rival
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>>174620897
so they force me to respec to warrior or buff my melee weapons to get through it?
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Is Gundyr's the only halberd with a charge? Asking for myself.
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>>174620697
>Are people really not aware of this ?
There was an anon a couple weeks ago that didn't recognize a screenshot of that scene, that I've posted, so yes.
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>>174620993
Bretty good.
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Where should the last 5 points go? More Att to hit the softcap, or something else? Keep in mind I'm leaving Vigor at 35 so that I can reserve the option for PChain.
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>>174621071
read what you're replying to
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>>174621076
If you do it i could make a video of it. Would be mad fun.
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So uhh. What are you supposed to do after a CE user inflicts you with the HUMANITY STOLEN bullshit?

My character started glowing white and I couldn't move and then my game crashed.
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>>174621215
your build is trash
that's all
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>>174621071
He's talking about DaS2, not DaS3, learn to context.

>>174621090
Get Santier's, infuse Raw, go RobFlynn.
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You get to add one new ring, weapon and armor set for the TFF release. None of these can be from previous games.

What are they?
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probably gonna pick up vanilla DS2 and play it unpatched. What were some crazy glitches and overpowered builds in the launch version? Rolling binoculars super speed glitch and overpowered lighting spells is all I remember off the top of my head.
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>>174621382
A ring that applies a force spell sort of like hidden sun ring. Except its just force.
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>summon someone for raidboss gael on ng++
>they die right before he dies

Man, that felt bad. I hope they still got the souls and stuff.
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>>174620993
>mfw the ugly ass hip armour on ds3 xanth coat
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I plastic surgery'd my ashen one.

How does she look?
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>>174621496
Like leon from resident evil
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>>174620814
Damn, do they never actually get summoned?
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>>174618892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHvpkjjhPbw
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>>174621663
Nobody invades anymore
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>>174621414
one shot things with the climax hex
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>>174621496
Cute boy.
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>>174621496
definitely not like a girl if that's what you were going for
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>>174619297
>Enter area full of seemingly dead hollow soldiers
>One gets up when you go near it
>"WOW this is fucking unfair they all came out of nowhere."

My first fucking time playing 2 I knew to wake them one at a time and backstab while they got up. You are either baiting or a massive retard.
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>>174620205
>wearing Way of the Blue gives concords on successful cleansing
would fix the game desu, more masochism for invaders and more reward
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>>174621569
No way fag.
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How can DS3 have so many katanas but no actual Samurai armor?
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So wait, no TFFE patch?
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>Get invaded regularly
>Always get blue dorks no matter the zone

I'm a job creator and you should love me
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>>174621849
Yes way. Your male is shit
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>>174621276
I would love to but I'm on xbone....
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>>174621929
Not a possibility, homosexual.
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I want to resurrect one of my favorite builds from das2 into 3 now that we have a ton of flame weapons. What fashion should I use, and what are the most fun flame weapons?

I am looking at the new double greatswords, the new ring knight sword and the demon's fists as of now.

Would also like to use some pyromancy, but if it doesn't fit because of stats it would be ok
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>>174621963
>xbone

Anon please i need friends to cosplay fights with
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>>174621920
I think last week's patch was the last.
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>fatrolling Tsorig cosplay but with the FUGS because what the fuck is that scaling damage
>get to the dancer
>not looking forward to it
>stick myself to her ass, mixing up shield and rolls where necessary
>realize that half of her attacks don't even hit if you just rotate around her as she's swinging
I can't believe there was a time where I thought this bitch was near impossible
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>>174621920
buy the game

>>174621851
eastern set :D
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>>174621496
>ayyyyy lmaos gently in the distance
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>>174622023
>make boi
>call it a girl

Im all for traps but dont lie. I can see thriugh your sham of a face design
>>174622126
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>>174622072
*without the FUGS
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>>174622045
PARTAKE mask and Iron Dragonslayers chest for sure
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>>174622068
That's why I'm asking yeah - had a feeling it was as well.
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>>174621496
actually looks liek a girl. That chin is always annoying though
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I just died to ludex please don't laugh
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>>174622063
Sorry cowboy. Such is life
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>>174619297
>run around and aggro every single enemy in the area
>WOOOOOOOWW THANKS B TEAM
So the memes were true
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>>174620714
Trap faggots make me sick
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>>174622303
Just dirt to the wind..
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>>174621192
You faggoot i posted a build that fixed that complete mess of a build of yours
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Quick question regarding sharing DLC.
I have a friend I'm sharing accounts with (mine's NA, his is EU) and he recently came across dark souls 3 and bloodborne at dirt cheap price.
So now we both own DS3 and BB american disc. If I have the dlc in my account, if he download/installs it form my account, can he play it with his american disc, despite using an european one?
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>>174621382
Fp regen ring on either kills which does massive returns or a small passive one one maybe %based so high att builds have a real advantage.
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>>174622423
You're thinking of someone else. This is the first time I've asked for help concerning a Faith build.
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>>174622368
can B team make the next souls game?
They're better than Memezaki
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Anybody on xbox can help me move things between characters?
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>>174622230
The preacher mask looks a little too silly, but the iron dragonslayer is the closest i think im gonna get.

Thanks for your help, anon!
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>>174619297
>people this bad at games post here
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>>174620142
What are they spoiling about bosses? Its literally half the content unless they want to showcasea bunch of reds emoting and 2HL1 mashing at pontiff
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>>174622567
Well go find it.
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>you can't backstab hosts out of fog gates in DaS3
I am literally mad. This game panders to hosts so fucking much.
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post "INVADE" "PROTECT" webm parodies
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>>174622624
B-Team did a good job with DS2 given how chaotic the development period was.
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>>174622741
you seem surprised
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>>174622808
>you can summon 4 npc phantoms against abyss cucks
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>>174622914
Been busy with job interviews and shit so I've been absent and almost forgot.
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Post anticlimaxes
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>>174623004
woah so mature
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>>174621382
DaS gestures ring
Katana with quickdraw dash that charges at the opponent, like Astora Greatsword but more Blacksteel Katana, cannot be infused/buffed
More kinky metal armor for girls
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Is it possible that I'm softbanned even if I can't use my WoW circlet? I can't get any invasions or arena matches...
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>>174623089
Not really.
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>>174620496
This actually disgusts me. Do people just play one char and cram as much into it as possible? Hell, I have 3 different faith characters because running the game with ultra specialized chars built around 1 weapon or 1 spell is so fun.
> respeccing ever to change how you play the same char
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>>174620378
Get lucky
I once spent 12+ hours trying to get one with all the item discovery shit on and I never got it
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Oh look, the Stream is up again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aUpGF5YQTo
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>>174623248
>+2 rings for every character
>still no sage and life in DLC
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>>174621192
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179725
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>>174621724
Pretty sure the diminishing community in descending order goes like:
>people who invade through covenant item
>people who invade through eye orb
>people who wear Darkmoon
>people who wear Way of the Blue
>people who obtain Way of the Blue at all
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>>174623353
>slightly amused by ur trash content
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>>174622072
She's a handful, just beat her on low SL when I decided it's time to pack a punch with pontiff ring and lloyd sword ring
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>TFFE already out of stock in my region
>only the expensive Deluxe Edition available on the PS store
What the fuck is this shit ?
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>>174623771
Why don't you just buy the season pass?
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>>174622632
PLEASE RESPOND
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>>174620993
>>174621076

I am absolutely not good at PvP at all, but now I'm thinking a Native warrior build might be cool. I wonder what a good look would be for one. Probably Pyromancer Crown for sure, hand axe for tomahawk, a bow...
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>>174623995
There's only like 2xbox players around. Spamming isn't going to help.
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Post your current favorite invasion song!

I'll start:
https://youtu.be/3VBc7VIibRA
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>>174624091
Just making sure those two see it! :)
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>>174623089
>Being THIS much of a salty loser
Probably like 99% of this thread lmao
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>>174624217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITiDrfK2Ri8

*dark blades weapon*
heh are you ready?

*casts force next to a ledge with the sunlight talisman*
Bye, phantoms.
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>>174624217
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSu7Oqhi-6g

*chucks suns at you*
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Drangleic beckons
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>>174624289
>baby's first job interview
Oh wow. You sure show us, kid
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I fucking hate this game and it's retarded input lag or whatever it is.

>press dodge button
>character just stands there and eats the full combo instead of dodging

Fuck this
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>>174623004
>tfw worked 5 days a week at least for last 2 years anywhere from 10 to 16 hours a day and now a neet.
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>>174624289
t. salty wagecuck loser
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Anyone on PS4 up for cooping Demon Prince? My character is a SL60 miracle-focused caster. If either of the two anons from last night are around, I'd love to give it another attempt with either of you.
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>>174624217
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0TzUNti3rY

Gank song
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>>174624060

Golden Crown + Cornyx's Garb maybe, for a Native American chief look?
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>>174619667
>the dream tree
The what?
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>>174620551
>plan out a Hellion build
>optimal class finder recommends mercenary
That's nice.
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>>174624709
No Idea who those where but I'm around and can try to help you if you wish.
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>>174624709
Give me a few to put something on the stove then I'll drop a sign.

Let's make sure to focus down Demon in Pain first.
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>>174624740
It's a recurring from software motif.
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>>174624739
>>174624060
What kind of build for a qt native waifu?
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>>174624868
>>174624881
Awesome, thanks a bunch. Password is Thanks, and yeah lets get laser Prince.
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>>174623823
I already have the game and DLCs on PC, but I wanted to get TFFE on PS4 to co-op with some friends who only have consoles. Guess I'll wait for a re-stock.
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>>174624570
not everyone can live on tendies, baja blast, and mommy's kisses
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Can someone post the concept art of Pontiff ? I'm on my phone and can't find it on Google
Please
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>want to co-op areas
>don't want to be part of a gank squad or a super-passive host who expects me to lead them around the areas and clear hordes of enemies by myself

On that topic, if you co-op areas and the host is following you, what do you do? Rush them straight to the nearest boss or show them where some pick-ups are?
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>>174625185

Lead them to shortcuts or good items before taking them towards the boss. Also point out important things like that you can kill the second skeleton ball mage from across the upper walkways.
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Are there any fun magic builds in ds2? Havnt yet ayed it with any sort of magic.
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wooowww
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>>174625359
Hexes are pretty fun to play with and available very early on. I enjoyed the spellblade variant the most, with Roaring Halberd.
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>>174624060
>>174624739
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179813
took the better part of a year for this
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where is entrance to second dlc
is it also the stupid dude in chapel?
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>>174625437
christ you're shit
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newfag here, got a question about upgrades and invasions
if i upgraded a shitty weapon to +8 and want to ditch it and use a different one, will my invasions with my unupgraded new weapon be against people with upgraded weapons?
if i destroy the +8 one, will i be matched against non-upgraded weapon users again?
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>>174624598
If you're playing DaS2 I understand, the iframes are pretty vague but you get used to it after a while.
>>174625185
If I put the sign down for an ember I just rush him, if I do it for medals I rush him, if I feel like I have time to fuck around, show some optional areas first.
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>>174624947
Why the "Dream" tree, though? Seems a bit specific, and i don't remember anything about dream trees in DaS1, DeS or DaS3.
I guess BB has the archtree-like trees in the distance in the Hunters Dream, and DaS2 had the Giant Memories.

Where did it start? And what is the gist of it?
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>>174625506
No.
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>>174625505
(you)
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>>174625050
Sorry kid, but only kid will post about "job interviews" here. For adult people like us your little brag sounds very funny.
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>>174625476
>have to kill pure waifu to get em early
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>>174624881
>>174624868
I've got one of you; other anon, is your sign down and I'm just not seeing it? I'm cool waiting, just don't want to keep you in the lurch.
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Invade for some lols
>Get caught in straight seord 2 hit r1 combo
>Roll out and miraculously get hit by one of the 17 phantoms r1s
>Get wrapped up in an 86 hit combo
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>casually mention Pontiff Sulyvahn was born in the painting
>never gets brought up again
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>>174625704
I'm the one you summoned, I can wait too.
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>>174625437
>Run past enemies
>Get fucked once they catch up
woooooooooooow

Remeber, it's okay when Miyazaki does it, just remember the Taurus and Capra Demons
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>>174625491

RoSP is pointless for PvP, but this seems pretty fun.
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>>174625665
Or just kill Flexile Sentry and pay 2k souls to move the gate.

Murderer.
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>>174624709
pass?
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>tfw 1v1's are boring
>can only enjoy being ganked
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>>174625714
Like 90% of the lore is a casual mentioning that never gets brought up again
Sometimes I think you people forgot how much of this shit was made up by the fanbase
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>>174621382
>Abyssal Aura Ring
>Charged R2 attacks gain a purple aura effect similar to Bloodborne and get a small % damage increase

>Old Champion's Lance
>Basically a worn, rusted version of the Grand Lance from DaS2

>Flamedrake Set
>An eastern set of armor made in the image of a red fire dragon
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>>174625064
Someone pls
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>>174625714
shit souls 3 ''''lore'''' in a nutshell
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>>174625889

Invasions are the truest form of Dark Souls pvp as intended by the developers.
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>>174625665
>>174625830
Oh wait, I was mistaken, she moves to Majula after you've either exhausted her dialogue or killed Flexile Sentry. Just pay the 2k souls after dropping Dragonrider off the ledge.
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>>174625870
Thanks
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>>174625830 >>174625975
my bad, I assume you were talking about 3
was too lazy to follow reply chain
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>>174625185
I tend to stick to the host and make sure Im the first to interact with enemies.

I dont know shit about the host and the last thing I need is a 2 min summon

Reds get priority because of the inherent threat. Most of the time I get summoned its just me and the host. They seem happy enough to let me tackle the red, but there are always hosts who are more aggressive than I am so its just kind of a play it by ear, at your discretion deal
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Don't think too hard about it. From just likes to recycle their themes.
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>>174625714
It didn't need any more than a mention
>invented frost magic in the painting
>frost magic that Friede then uses
>master of illusory magic
>illusory magic used heavily throughout the painted world (follower javelin, etc.)
>dual wields weapons
>Friede is said to have been a master of dual-wielding
>Pontiff protected by harrowed spirits with an aggressive, flowing, combo-centric curved sword style that swallow and then spit dark to attack
>Painting protected by harrowed undead with aggressive, flowing, combo-centric curved sword style who swallow and spit fire to attack

Sulyvahn taught Friede ice magic, and in turn was taught how to fight.
Pontiff Knights are Farron Followers that chose to join Sulyvahn.
Sulyvahn's influence on the Way of White (eg. undermining the gods raising up Aldrich, converting people towards deep worship) was all done in the context of having been trained by the founder of the Sable Church.

Now, remember how Sulyvahn grows dark, rooty wings in phase 2 of his boss fight?
The entrance to the Dreg heap is in Friede's bossroom
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>>174625525
>>174626281
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>you will never beat the game with a cute dracco
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Oh crap I'm sorry, I cast Gnaw the second the demon started coming and was locked in the animation. I'll be more careful this time.
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>>174626447
All good, maybe I should bring my tank character and try to take the aggro next time?
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>>174625615
Im not even the same guy

>for adult people like us your little brag sounds very funny

are you sure you arent 12? Also theres nothing funny about being in the workforce or bragging about a job let alone a job interview. I've got a good job and it still fucking sucks
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>>174626423
What if I AM the cute dragonsis?
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>>174626447
Y'all co-oping 2bat? I can lend another hand if you're on pc.
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>>174625032
Why would you ever want to co-op with anons from dsg? Most are terrible, gay, or autistic.
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>>174625437
>MOMMMY
>THIS GAME SUCKS CUS I CAN'T SKIP IT
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>>174626504
Are you guys the ps4 co-op people?
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>>174626504
Whatever you feel like, I think if I hadn't goofed it we could have taken him that time but its up to you.
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hey could someone share the poise-through document or add it to the google doc for DS3?

the one where you put in your poise stat and weapon and it tells you what weapon hits you can hyperarmor through?
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>>174625785
funny how DaS2 cucks are so insecure they immediately jump to defend their game even though nobody ever brought it up.
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>>174626638
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>>174626518
>Also theres nothing funny about being in the workforce or bragging about a job let alone a job interview. I've got a good job and it still fucking sucks
I don't follow you. Read previews posts again
>not everyone can live on tendies, baja blast, and mommy's kisses
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>>174621382

>Skyking's Ring
>Gives a percentage increase in damage to all attacks made against an enemy from a higher elevation. Damage increase is dependent on height when the attack is initiated, with plunging attacks gaining the most benefit.

>Madman's Greatscissors
>Dual greatswords that have a Bloodborne-esque transformation weapon art into a pair of giant scissors. Lots of rush attacks with ample hyper armor.

>Carthus Temple Guardian Set
>Pic related, lower right.
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>>174626549
Then you feel self-actualization
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New and confused, help me out here

>armour is pointless since poise is a joke anyway
>300kg weapons don't stagger enemies the size of a chicken
>dex is kinda shit

So I just go naked with a decent sized fast weapon that scales of both DEX and STR?
I want to turtle crawl though, its fun
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>>174626447
this pic always makes me sad
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>>174626357
This is good headcannon. I don't get the connection between Sully's wings and dreg heap though.
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>>174626858
Angels
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>>174620496
>be innapyro
>kill aldrich in 6 gcfo
>kill dancer in 8 blacked flames

love this meme
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>>174626385
>>174626281
That's pretty rad. I should play KF some time.
How do you find its lore? Like in the Souls games, through item descriptions?
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>>174625704
Gl. I got greedy
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>>174626992
I got greedy; I forgot twice that he follows his charge with the lava thing on the ground, totally my bad. Are you all up for another attempt?

>>174626557
PS4

>>174626585
Yes
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>>174619395
hidden body and spook are great for roaming around levels. You can backstab enemies and they won't even aggro so long as you get behind a wall before they wake up. Not to mention you can gas them with the storyteller weaponart.

>>174620021
Clutch rings only penalize your physical absorption though. They're shit but they won't make you take more damage from a CSS.
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>>174626718
>sarcastic heh you showed us kiddo
>I call you a neckbearded man child just because you seem autistic
>you think Im OP
>say some more autistic shit
>I call you 12 and say that being a wage slave even with a good job sucks

How are you not following? Its a children's book level of straightforward
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>>174626591
I'll try a different buff and if that doesn't work I'll unzip the greatshield + black knight sword.
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Why did Oceirosposting die out so fast?
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>>174626925
Yes. Most from soft games are like that. Most armored core info is from emails and arena pilot descriptions.
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>>174627219
because dog bosses are ass
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>>174626853
What fucking game are you playing?
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>>174626564
so what, am i supposed to kill 20 of the same boring-ass enemies to avoid it? that sounds like a shitty game to me

>>174626674
it was just a webm of me dying in DaS2, that's literally it. never even mentioned DaS2 or the gank mob meme
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>>174627150
So you not pretending to be retarded autist? Wew. Good luck, autist
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>>174627240
Is the lore good?
That's a very subjective thing, so say i liked DeS and DaS1 lore, will i like KF lore?
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>>174626741
Nice images btw. Source?
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>>174627314
well deserved (you)
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>>174627370

https://cat-boots.tumblr.com
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>get gold in duel
>try to get gold in brawl
>run into sl 300 monsters with 1000 ar straight swords and over 2500 hp

password matching was a mistake.
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>>174625917
>>174625064
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>>174626853
Ignore everything /v/ has told you about the game, it's all memes regurgitated by people that don't play the games.

Poise works and armour helps, but it's situational. Worry less about minmaxing on your first playthrough. Being naked oenalizes your defenses sharply, so always wear something.

Big, slow weapons are perfectly fine but can be harder to use than small, fast weapons. The first 5 hours of the game will provide an abundance of upgrade material and ramp up difficulty very slowly, so it's an ideal time to try a variety of weapons and movesets and stick with whatever works for you.

Dex is fine

If you want to turtle, find yourself a decent shield and be sure to have lots of endurance. Shields are very, very good.
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>>174621382
a covenant that only invades solo hosts
>>
Where does DS1 store your keybinds and stuff? It's not in the regular save file.
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>>174627358
You'll probably like it but remember that From, like most devs, makes games first then fits lore in later.
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>>174627563
>How to make everyone summon phantoms in with one change
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>>174627351
>look I won without saying anything relevant

oh, so you are 12
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>lol I'll just jump 50 feet across the map and punch to where you roll
I wish I had the I'm Sorry stone, can't spam it enough guys. We're getting closer every time, at least.
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>>174621382
>lionhearted ring
>parry WA's now deflect all ranged attacks

>Horse Slayer Great Axe
>great axe 1H and reaper 2H with the neck swipe WA

>The Maze's Attendant
>see pic
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>>174627497
Thanks anon
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>>174627614
Right, one last thing...

How is the gameplay? Has it aged PISS POORLY, or is it decent enough?
Would i be better off watching a playthrough? i hope not.
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>>174627740
Thank god i'm a barely functioning white dude with minimal friends, hobbies and family
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>>174627740
>Something you have literally no control over is a reason to kill yourself

That's nice anon
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>>174627740
t. salty sagecuck loser
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>>174619195
Got a congregation for yourself now.
Everybody feasts and I feel left out.
>>
So are we not getting a patch for TFFE release?
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>>174621382
>Spook Ring
>Permanent Hidden Weapons and Hidden Body (just the transparent effect not the reduced aggro)
>Removes Ember and buff effects

>God Hands (bear with me)
>Paired miracle fist catalysts with force as a WA

>Armor
>idk
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>>174627740

>Overweight, haven't showered in five days
>Virgin
>Have a large circle of friends I regularly hang out with
>Varied interests
>Living away for college
>Not a neet

I have too much to live for.
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Is it even fucking possible to break a weapon in ds3?
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>>174626423
>tfw ds1 dragon was the best looking one
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>>174621927
It's actually sad you have to rely on forced camping for blue covenants to get shit done, otherwise people just panic and die, enter boss instances and never get invaded again.
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>>174627660
>pretending to be retarded
>u are 12 XD
Keep going
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>>174627948
yes, it's actually even possible to break a broken straight sword
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>>174627815
Like shit. You'll hate the slow turning and from didn't bother with analog controls till halfway in the ps2 era.

Try shadow tower abyss. You can select analog controls in the options. Has an English fan translation. It's around 10 hours long but atmospheric.
>>
There any way to get rid of the console based camera auto recentering?

I tend to walk in a direction while looking into another one which causes the camera to jitter since it always turns towards the direction you are walking.

It's quite annoying honestly
>>
>>174627948

Frayed blade
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>>174627553
>Poise works

I don't think YOU play the game

You can rock full havels and still get staggered first hit by a rat.
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>>174627948
Ive done it one time and the circumstances were odd involving an unconscious lack of bonfires for several long pvp sessions over a few days before arenas
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>>174628107
Why would I have to? You're doing all the work for me
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>>174627948
I've done it by dueling at Pontiff's for hours without resting
Practically speaking, no

>>174628253
Poise works. It doesn't work how DS1 babbs want it to work, but it works.
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Saving people with this is satisfying as hell.
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>>174627181
Yeah, maybe switch builds; I feel like if we can all make it to phase two we'll be okay, but we lose so much damage output if we lose you early.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SdVlq7OTQE
>DaS1 poise babbies whining about poise in DaS2
I guess nothing has changed.
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>>174626732

>Skyking's Ring + Hyper Mode Millwood Greatbow.
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>>174628493
Does it heal enemies?
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>>174628609
How did poise even work in ds2?
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>>174621382
>ring
I would rather just rework the current rings so that ringswapping becomes less of a thing. All rings should almost always have an active effect. SPR does nothing while you're at full HP, while lloyd's rings do nothing while you aren't at full HP. May as well merge them so that people who flip back and fourth between them aren't given an advantage, it would make sense with the shield ring in particular since the regen would give you a means of potentially re-activating the absorption buff, while the absorption buff would lower the distance from max health you are after being struck.

>weapon
"The hand"
caestus that, when offhanded, performs the right hand weaponart with L2 and parries with L1

>armor
something that covers my fucking neck
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>>174628607
I'm the guy with the greatshield, sorry I thought he was going for a combo or something. I'll try tank + black knight sword now, then I go back to sellsword dmb and if that does not work I can try magic spam.
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>>174628609
jesus ds2 looks like absolute shit
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>>174628609
Dark Souls 1 poise babies are the worst, they show their true colors when they show they needed a garbage game mechanic to carry them through the entire game and pvp.

And suddenly when they can get combo'd, they throw little hissy bitchfits, instead of doing things like learning to block and dodge.
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>>174628770
You slow down if you get hit and you're not doing anything. Attacking with heavy weapons doubled your poise.
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>>174628690
no but hosts can roll through it and it can't be used during any invincible periods like backstabs

do you like it
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>>174628770
A mix of DeS hyper armor and DaS1 poise
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>be pyromancer
>unlock Karla
>hey dark magic looks cool
>is insanely OP against enemies weak to it
>is pretty good against other enemies because stagger
>aside from damage, most of the spells have the shittiest functionality/mechanics out of all magic

I'm so conflicted. I WANT to use dark stuff only, but I keep falling back to the far more efficient pyros. Any other darkbros out there got any tips? Also I have 0 idea what I'm doing stat allocation-wise, aside from spell requirements.
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>>174628609
DS3 "poise" force "never hit first" glorious gameplay even more than all previews games. Just look how duels between non poise weapons looks like
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>>174626741

Haven't seen that one before. Thank you for the cute pictures, Anon.
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>>174628981
>even more than all previews games
rose tinted glasses
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>>174628943
Black Flame is amazing. The others suck.
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>>174628981
>you only get poise during attacks
>somehow this forces you to not attack and get no poise
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>>174628981
You're delusional. DS2 is by far the biggest passive clusterfuck the series ever had.
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Hey guys, what kind of build should I be running with the stats shown?
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>>174628943
BECOME THE MURKMAN
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>>174627497

So is sullyman a tree guy or a corvian?
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>>174629230
Lies lies lies.

Rolling and stamina consumption made it never reach Dark SOuls III levels
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>>174628943
Because both pyromancy and hexes need int + faith they are pretty interchangeable based on what you're feeling. If you can't choose then just wear the pyro glove but use the dark pyromancies.
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>>174628493
such a fucking pain to freeaim tho
you're pretty sick with it tho
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>>174628792
Oh I'm sorry, didn't mean to goof you up.

And thank you both so much for your help. I'm sorry it took so many attempts, but I had a ton of fun, especially that last time. Also I got to heal someone with Projected Heal, so that was great.

Also, Raven, thanks again for helping me move items. Thanks to you both I can get Lightning Arrow!
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Very nice job guys. Impressive riposte damage from big guy and nice job surviving those flurries with the shield.

Also nice projected heal
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>>174629267

Mundane infusions
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>>174629267
hollow broken sword
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>>174629323
it's not about rolling
in ds2 you had people never attacking you first then punishing your aggression and it was quite literally impossible to punish unless you were on a turtle setup because they could buffer their own running attack with spinning
there's a reason spinny ultra passive reactive twitchfaggots were so widespread during ds2 lifespan
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>>174629428
All good, I just didn't expect to get scaled down that much. always glad to help ~! Enjoy.
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>>174629323
somebody please post the video of those two guys basically spinning in place for 5 mins

I searched dark souls 2 high level pvp but I cant find it
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>>174629267
dancer 2blade

>862 AR

simply spin and then you win friend
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>>174628792
>>174629428
Good job guys. I had fun. Felt like back in my old raiding days.

Sorry I kept dying so much. Was getting too greedy.
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>>174629502
I agree but I wouldn't say that's absent from DS3
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>>174629502
>>174629592
Now explain how that's any different in DS3 or DS1. If someone wants to just do nothing and not get hit it's the exact same shit in all three games.
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>>174629693
his point (I think) was more specifically that poise (or the lack thereof) wasn't the problem
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>>174629693

You could play aggressive in DAS1 though, because you can't really react to a 1-frame backstab. It's all predicting your opponent.
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>>174629293
Well, just like the corvians he grows wings but his look like tree branches, so obviously it means a corvian fucked a tree girl and Sully is what came out
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Sup faggots.

I want to make a new build, give me ideas already have;

>pyro
>66str
>mageslut
>quality
>60fai

Give me ideas for a new character, im bored as fuck with these ones
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>>174629828
>because you can't really react to a 1-frame backstab

so walking around someone takes 0-frames?
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>>174629903
16/80
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Don't cheat guys!
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>>174629203
>you only get poise during attacks
For HA weapons.
>>174629230
I'm not even DS2 fag. I don't like DS2 poise
We need DS1 poise but with proper numbers/breakpoints so SS will never able to tank two UGS R1 for example.
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>>174629946
79 is more efficient desu
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>>174629903
add dex and you have all the builds in the game already

so dex
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Alright guys what is the boss build of the church spear covenant
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>>174630052
Super tanky with regen and hyper armor weapon.
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>>174630052
faith regenerator
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>>174629903
become the loremaster
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179866
though I guess these are really just pyro stats
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>>174630049
I heard dex was complete shit though
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>>174629646
No apologies necessary. And nothing wrong with greed; I'll have to do better at being able to quickly heal coop partners.
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>>174629693
>DS1
poise and backstabs allowed to aggressively punish passivity
you can't just spin around and wait for your opponent to lose his temper, he will go into your range and he will fucking rape you
>DS3
70% rolls have hyperarmor frames and some running attacks or weapon arts have nearly unbreakable hyperarmor so you always have options for getting in if your opponent is excessively passive which wasn't the case in ds2
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>>174629665
Are you using the Sirris pants + pyromancer top combo too?
shit looks amazing.
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>>174630052

Projected Meme.
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>>174629327
Yeah. I was using Izalith staff off main hand for a while too because of Affinity and Dark Edge, but both spells felt kinda weak, even with dark clutch ring equipped, to be worth the trouble and equip weight.

That's the only thing I truly miss from DaS2, that dark magic was it's own, decently good magic class. This half-assedness of DaS3 dark magic is too cumbersome and the spells are all over the fucking place in terms of functionality. It's almost as if you're supposed to pick only A COUPLE of them and ONLY use dark magic for melee supplementation.
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>>174630259
>poise allows you to punish someone who isn't attacking
Engage your noodle for a moment please
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>>174629957
Dummy.
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holy shit, corvian greatscythe is unbeatable
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>>174630439
Oldman pls go
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>>174630365
>poise allows you to punish someone who plays purely reactively and only tries to punish you for your aggression
fixed
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>>174630439
Nice meme
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>>174630240
>I heard that [insert literally anything] was complete shit

Do you believe everything you hear?
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>literally cannot find DaS2 tables ANYWHERE
god damn what happened? Literally every link and article I find about it has dead pages that were supposed to have it.
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>>174630439
w2c unbeatable greatscythe build
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>>174630439
>parries you

heh nothing personnel kid
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>>174630584

What are some good dex weapons i can make a build around then?
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>>174630610
The rumour is that Mr cheat engine had some massive bout of autism and shut everything down, not backing any of it up because he suddenly found he had moral scruples about cheating
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Alright nerds, think I'm just gonna reinstall DaS3 and snag a season pass to replay it with all the DLC. Been a good 6 months or so since I've played, any new tweaks or meta I should be aware of?
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>>174630245
Nice. Damn that was such a nice run wish I would have recorded it.

Nice landing that heal. I was trying to proc a heal.

The other guy did good too landing those huge ripostes.
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Which one should I get? Sotfs or the ds3 season pass? Ds2 is the only one I have never played. I also want to try ariandel and ringed city.
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>>174630439
You should lightning infuse it so you can use heals and carry a dagger for quickstepping too
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>>174630756
heavy and sharp infusions are goat for specific weapons and there's a lot of them
elemental infusions are better now
miracles got the single best attack miracle since DS1
prisoner's chain is god-tier for any build
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>>174630610
http://puu
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Latest ones I've got. Email Atvaark or something.
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>>174629903
lightroll ninja

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179872

For you last two rings you've got 1.5 units of weight left, use what you like. I made this before the prisoner's chain changes, but on a build with light armor the penalty might actually be an issue.

>>174630240
in duels it's fine, but you get sweaty since you're walking a fine edge as far as mistakes go

>>174630337
yeah, but I'm a bigger fan of the shadow chest with the new loincloth
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I'm fucking retarded, explain something to me.

I get that Gwyn went hollow by the time you met him in DS1 and that's why he fights you in the Kiln despite you presumably being there to link the fire.

But why does the Soul of Cinder, which is literally just a McGangbang of everyone who linked it before your character, try and stop you? Wouldn't they rather just be like "alright bro go ahead throw yourself on the fire mate"? After all, if they fail, they just fail, it doesn't break the fire or whatever.
>>
What was a giant worm all the way down in flaming ash lake doing with a lightning miracle made to kill dragons?
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>>174630740
The standard dex weapons, also a lot of larger swords perform well with a sharp infusion now.

I have a level 60 Crow quills invasion build that does great things and a frayed blade build at 120 that uses some support miracles to give it a bit more survivability and ranged options. Either weapon will do fine on its own though

>>174630756
Oh my yes
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Well let's imagine for a second.
>DS3
>no 2 hit combo
>SS vs SS
>poise allow them to withstand 1HR1
>DS1 or BB rolls

So how their duel will looks like?
>>
>when you make someone ragequit with altf4
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>>174630910
>ninja
>starting knight
>offhand blessed caestus
>miracles

yuck
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>>174630740
Almost any katana, frayed blade and washing pole especially. Corvian greatknife is good if you play aggressively and like daggers, drang twinspears are good too.
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>>174630910
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179872
>random 26str
>only 40 dex
What the fuck are you doing
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>>174631082
le frayed blade is a quality weapon
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>>174630935

He and the others want to make sure you are worthy

Also in the intro cutscene we actually catch a glimpse of the Knight who would become the Soul of Cinder's getting ready for his quest
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>>174630957
r1 roll out
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>>174631032
>not having steady regen
have fun watching people run around like in >>174629665

>starting class
I even made them black just to go the extra mile
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>>174631043
>drang twinspears
come on
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>>174630770
Both of you guys were rocking it on the ripostes, we really wombo-combo'd him that run.
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>>174630946
I'm 99% sure it's just a Dune reference.

If I remember right, their appearance caused huge lightning arcs of static electricity and electricity was just a good way to actually kill a Sandworm in Dune.

>>174631187
Yeah, but even if you weren't worthy, why would they care? If you're not, you burn and die. If you're not and fight them, you still die.

Just seems a little silly.
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>>174630989
>implying he didn't pull the plug

Can you tell the difference?
>>
stop defending ds2
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>>174631224
Have you tried them? One of the best rolling L1's in the game. The only thing bad I hear people say about them is that they're parry bait, but if you get parried with anything you deserve it to be honest
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>>174631082
27 str gives you 40.5, which gets rounded down
26 gives you an even 39 str, and it makes sense to always have a little less str than dex since the dex scaling on frayed is higher
moving all the str to dex gives less AR while both onehanding and twohanding
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>>174630957
Like DaS1
Except no teleports behind u backstab techniques
So, ultra shit then
>>
How fucking terrible is the trailer for TFF edition?

It's like someone put together a really bad tribute montage for their OC
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>>174630935
I'f I had to guess i'd say that they're the spirit of remaining bit of ignition so you have to absorb them first
>>
stop bullying ds2
>>
Is flynn's ring ever worth it
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>>174619264
I had the same shit on a low level character. Invading in the forest as watchdog and the phantoms had ringed city stuff, made more damage and had fully upgraded estus flasks.
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>>174631408
Not really
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After you've completed the game and gotten everything from Yuria, and presuming you're not doing a hollow build, is there any reason to not heal the dark sigil? I'm sick of looking like a druid up prune on my faith character
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Will someone drop me a murky hand scythe
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>>174631517
If you NG+ you clear your sigils for free.
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>>174620021
Just play ring of steel protection +3 and it's alright.

(No seriously, I love that fucking thing)
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>>174630746
That is absolutely hilarious.
>>174630906
Holy fuck dude, thanks!
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>>174630052
terrible, the slutty dlc sorcerer stuff except he didnt equip the leggings, a knights shield and the frayed blade.
I liked dark mask guy with the big wolf better, halflight is a terrible boss offline
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>>174631408
is your game broke and you're unable to equip weapons and armour but can equip rings and you started deprived? If yes then still no
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>>174631357
But SS can't withstand ultra 2HR1
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>>174631517
You can heal it but it multiplies accordingly to your soul level so its gonna be pricy to eliminate all the sigils.
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>>174631582
>he thinks rosp works in pvp

o i am laffin
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>>174630902
Cool, thanks

>>174630950
>Oh my yes
Uh.....thanks?

>>174630935
Same reason Gwyn and all the other Lords strait up attack you: it's horribly insane. Its an algamation of everyone who spent a good chunk of time burning alive (in a sense) without any reprieve. You'd be fucked up too if your soul was made of untold numbers of screaming psychotic warriors.
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Which game has the best parry sound including Bloodborne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4AIwbw-J_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzwKv0A12DE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgR1t5tKwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVaoe2H0Wwg
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>>174631334
Stop hating II
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>>174631517
>doing yuria on a FAI
cuck
>>
>Fillianore and her egg was just a homage to the anime-kino "Angel's egg"
>it had no relevance to the story what so ever other than Miyazaki thinking it looked cool
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>>174631408
No

at best it adds +15% physical (I think it's just physical) damage if you're naked

you could just wear RoSP to get +19% physical defense independent of your equipload
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>>174631692
It just seems way too chill to be insane as it hangs out at the bonfire before you approach. I dunno.
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>>174631756
>helping the leader of a church as a cleric
>also she is a qt

wow fucking RETARD
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>use my 7 gold coins farming winged knights for a halberd
>get exactly 1 titanite shard
>figure I'll have one more go with base discovery before begging for one
>it drops
I mean I'm happy it dropped but
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>>174631732
DaS by a fucking landslide

DaS > DaS3 > BB > DaS2
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>>174631771
>Dark Souls was just a homage to the manga "Berserk"
>it had no relevance to the story what so ever other than Miyazaki thinking it looked cool
>>
>>174631771
It helps confirm that the main Firelink is just like TRC.
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>>174631732
BB > 3 > 1 > 2 Even though 2's parry sound is just unused audio that was planned for dks 1
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>>174631651
Not him, but it does. It's worse than the life ring since it basically gets halved in PvP and only affects physical weaponry, but if your opponent is just running quality, a good 9% more defense isn't that much worse than just adding 10% more health.
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>>174631828
The sable church are kaathe worshippers, and also Yuria is hollow and uses the illusory ring to appear human like every other beef jerky man from Londor

Would make since to side with them on an edgy dark cleric or something but not on a holy magic build
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>>174631921
we already had enough evidence that firelink is in a pocket dimension

was undtendied chicken not enough for you
>>
>>174630827
Fast thread, anyone?
>>
>>174631732
DaS is definitely the most intense sound. Never played bb, kinda surprised how quiet the sound effect is
>>
>>174631786
At the point the Ashen One reaches it, it's probably existed for who knows how long. If anything it's probably just tired of its horrid, unending existance, but like Gywn or Vendrick it's still a warrior at heart and wants a proper duel before it does down
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>>174631771
>it had no relevance to the story
???
I bet you don't understand Angel's Egg without creating "what the fuck am watching" thread in /a/
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>>174631407
stop bullying ds3
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>>174632117
>things look vaguely similar
>they must be related even thought nothing about crystal lizards or the transposing kiln itself has any relation to filly's eggu

sasuga my man
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>>174631565
You on pc?
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>>174632242
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>>174632364
okay so what's the lore significance

what are you trying to say other than they look similar

what's your END GAME
>>
>>174631732
>no DeS
kys
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>>174630827
Scholar
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>>174632446
2deep4u
like Angel's Egg
>>
>>174631771
>Gael was a Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind reference

So Miyazaki decided at the last piece of content ever, that maybe he should reference things besides Berserk or his previous games?
>>
>>174620697
This is my favorite ending, not the firekeeper being stomped but the visual of the ashen one praying with the flame in his hand with the darksign sun in the background in addition of the narrator voice is absolutly god-tier
>>
Firelink armor set, yes or no?
>>
>>174632653
>Gael was a Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind reference

maybe he was intended to be a reference at the very beginning but as of now the only thing the two character's share is being an old guy with a beard
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>>174632446
The transposing kiln takes soul power and makes it reality. Filianore is using the transposing kiln "egg" to transpose her dream over the real Ringed City.
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>>174632653
>Midir is just shin-godzilla
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>>174632717
triple foot job from the sable sisters, yes or no?
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>>174632717
>>
>>174632653
You can't recognize anything without meme pictures? He's not only reference Berserk. You need more Insight.
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>>174632761
>implying Midir ever shot down any B-2s
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well lads i made it to skeleton lords in DaS2 and i think i've had enough of this game.

>lel instead of making a challenging but fair boss, lets just spam you with 8 enemies

yeah, no thanks. fuck this shit game
>>
>>174632867
>hollow
eww
>>
>>174632734
We know some reference was intended, since Gael's handle is "YUPA" in the files.
>>
THE CONNECTION TO THE DICK SOULS III GAME SERVER HAS BEEN LOST

TWICE
>>
>>174632959
>japan makes michealbayshit

BRAVO DESU
>>
Angel's Egg is nothing but boring rock formations lit in various ways so really it's more like an anime version of DS2
>>
>>174632978
Skeleton Lords is a fine mob fight though. Next few bosses and areas are way shittier, though.
>>
Can someone recommend a way to win an invasion when facing 3+ people as the invader?
1-2 I can handle most of the time but anything more and this happens:
>blues come, get rekt
>get swarmed by host+phantoms (+above), get rekt
>kill phantoms, host summons them again, get rekt
>kill phantoms, corner host, CONNECTION ERROR RETURING TO YOUR REEEEEEEEEE
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>>174631517
>faith
>hollowing
heresy
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>>174632885
>ywn give that fat cat what she deserves
>>
>>174632978
best done mob boss in the series, try again
>>
>>174632986
but imagine if the flesh on Yuria's foot is so weak and rotted that you could push you dick through and LITERALLY fuck her foot.

A new take on a footjob
>>
>>174633047
>michealbayshit
wut
>>
>>174631517
Just go to ng+ and use a purging stone
>>
>>174633002
>We know some reference was intended

that's what i said you retard
>>
>>174633120
but I betray her every newgame cycle
>>
Can you play Demon's Souls on a PS4? If From's next game is playstation only the fuckers will force me to buy one.
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Stop putting down your summon sign at bosses you don't know how to do.
>>
>>174633047
Shin Godzilla was amazing, though.
>>
>>174632986
>>174633141
>implying yuria isn't perfect

delete these posts?
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>>174631732
3>1>2>BB
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>Wolnir's last hand clips into the ground
>he keeps summoning curved greatsword and ninja skeletons and puking diarrhea
>die to a stray wheel skeleton that came out of nowhere
fuck
>>
>>174633256
no you can't
>>
>>174631619
You can hit once and roll away.
>>
>>174632903
Yes he references and has referenced other things too, I am aware, but the meme is to imply he just steals everything from Berserk. He has actually referenced Berserk a shitload of times though.
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>Kitamura composed all the DLC tracks
Damn, she was on a roll with DaS3.
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>>174619625
>heals
had me really confused for a second
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>>174632978
Are you playing unpatched because it was nerfed
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Let's continue this stupid minecraft build. Would the steel soldier helmet count as an iron helmet for the outfit?
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>>174633487
Midir and Gael tracks are some of the hypest in series.
>Midir charges his giga laser just as theme goes to the highest phase
>that moment when Gael slow walks to you and theme changes to a second phase then suddenly jumps to a third phase
>>
>>174633103
Go to pontiff and wait for help
>>
can i use megamule on a seperate account to try builds without getting soft banned on my main account if i family shared? getting bored of my selection but i have no time to play the game over and over and over just to be creative
>>
>>174633103
use a big ass hammer or greatsword

give em the good ol turn & burn
>>
>>174620021
>css
>magic damage
>anything to do with clutch
ayy
>>
>>174633103
Usually twinking makes it more fair
>sufficient estus if they're not garbage
>roundabout same armors vs password summons
Just got hornet ring and prisoner's chain on mine and I'm having fun
>>174633263
>put down sign at Dancer to improve on it
>can't enter fog wall
>raging autist adds me and vents, removes before I can reply
>predicted this might happen since couldn't enter one fog wall previously as well
>>
>>174633630
>minecraft build
what
how do you expect other people to see this?
>>
>tfw trying to get good with pickaxe

It would help if the weapon wasn't such shit but oh well.
>>
>>174633806
>turn & burn

dude DANK SOULS lmao

fear not THE DANK my friend
>>
>wrath of the gods requires 2 spell slots

damn that has really thrown a spanner in the works
>>
>>174633963
is there any reason to use WoTG outside of stake/spear?
outside of pve against very high lightning resistant enemies
>>
>>174633841
I swear 1HKO guy in Lapp armor. How?
>>
>>174633103
UGS/GH
Feint turn around and run
Wait for the innevitable running attack they will do
180 R1>R1 stunlock
Works everytime all the time
>>
>>174634079
not really, I just like watching retards trying to swing through my sunlight talisman only to get blasted
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>co-op with some random who is pretty bad and don't have fun and their fashion and build is shit
>messages you and friend request you every time

>co-op with cool player who is doing smart things and their toon looks cool with cool and useful build
>never messages you, never friend request you, never see them again

Why even live ?
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>>174633863
I'm trying to finish the cringy character set of builds I'm doing, and thought a minecraft kid would work. Put on a dumb name, will use Irythrill as a diamon sword and a pickaxe and brigand axe as iron versions of those. No idea about what to wear yet. I guess the name will give it away first.

If you meant how do I expect people to see something this bad. that's kind of the point. I want it to be cringy.
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>>174633103
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14y1Ows6dSqFlLzLiH3qisXY4ygDqRlrydqgcaHIZkEo/pub
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>>174634148
>300 damage
kek
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>>174634079
I find it useful in uneven grounds
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>>174634079
Fucking people through walls in invasions.
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>>174634212
>someone adds you after co-oping or dueling
>never talk to them again after that
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Is this too much endurance for a faith invader? I feel like it is too much.
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>always lose after I get my opponent down to very little health

I keep fucking panicking because of how close i'm getting
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>>174632978

I honestly think the Shadows of Yarhnam was a piss take of the skelly lords fight and the state of dark souls pvp

>encounter the trio at the end of a spooky woods
>2 katanas, one buffs it with fire while another one doesn't as he's using a chaos blade
>3rd shadow hangs back spamming pyromancies at you. Also wields what appears to be a ladle
>developes bullshit phantom range half way through the fight with their magic extendo range arms
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>>174634295
>You don't need 1,000+ damage weapons
>all fucking options listed are to cheese hosts with insta kills
Everytime
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>never level Endurance

BB spoiled me and made me retarded.
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>>174634456
>125
>invader

hmmm
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>>174634456
>125
>invader
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>>174634573
I've been working on a spicy rule of thumb for endurance

enough for 2 rolls attacks then 1-2 rolls
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>>174634212
>Team up with a cool red/purple using a non tryhard build and take town the host and his phantoms together
>Add him on steam to compliment him
>Never accepts
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>>174634456
Why do you need so much endurance? Are you using ultras?
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>>174634456
Yeah, it's like 60 faith too much
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>>174633103
one shots/large aoe attacks

>>174634332
wait does force also break guard?
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>>174634637
i find your thumb to be bland and unseasoned imho
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>>174634636
>>174634596
t. dumb SL80 cucks mad that no one falls for their 1 build memeta
125~ is where all the fun's at
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>>174634684
doubt it. want to test it?
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>>174634637
for a normal greatsword how much does that usually end up being?

I just watch my stam go up by fucking 1 when I level it and then say fuck it and take the point out and put it in strength right now.
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>>174634596
>>174634636
What's the problem? Are you afraid of SL 157 hosts?
>>174634669
I dunno, I don't use ultras, but the bident drains a lot of stamina. Having more than 160 stamina allows me to swing a longsword 9 times, though so that's a plus.
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>>174634573
i usually run with 20-25 unless i'm in SL120 range
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>>174634091
how much damage? might've been wearing calamity or some shit. And iirc, flat defence (from int) is more important than percentile absorption (from armor)
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>>174619195
hanging with some locusts I've never seen before
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>>174634834
>implying I kept using greatswords once they became crutch weapons
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Can I have some cool non meta Faith weapons? Afaik the meta is basically SSS and Crucifix correct?
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>arena dueling a guy
>using my drang hammers
>hit him with a firebomb
>roll-catch him with a combo
>he's 1 hit away
>points down
>throw another firebomb and kill him
>he invites me to a group called "lol, pussy"
>add him to see why
>get this autism spewed out at me
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>>174634637
duelcucks everyone
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>>174634596
>>174634636
>he always invades as a twink build

Reddit
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>>174634920
I don't know or care about meme crutch weapons I'm just trying to play big man in big armor with big weapon right now.
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Rapport is pretty fun to use.
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>>174634819
aren't you just flat lying? not everyone runs gaels instawin sword even at 120
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>>174634819
>>174634847
>>174634970
reddit sl defense force is here
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>>174634932
I just use mace & great mace
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>>174634943
Some people get mad if you use throwing knives.
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>>174634970
>reddit
>invading at all
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>>174634932
There's always the Biden the meme or dragon slayer weapons or paladin weapons
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>>174635048
But how it's reddit if all japs invade at 120SL?
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>>174635037
How is it right now? I haven't really used it since seeds got nerfed into the ground. Or are you on about PvE?
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>>174634847
When do you ever need to swing a longsword 9 times?!
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>>174634819
oh hey the retarded monkey is back
go hang yourself already
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At SL120-130~ you can do:
INT builds
Faith builds
Pyro builds
STR/Faith builds
Quality/INT builds
STR builds
Dex builds
Quality Builds
HP regen builds
Dex/INT buff builds
STR/VIT tank builds
And probably more that I'm forgetting
And of course you can do variations of all of those, for example on a Dex build you can go to 80 Dex and get crazy high damage from scaling, or get VIG to 50 for more health, or throw some points into ATT and Faith for Tears or Blessed weapon, or enough VIT to fast roll

Meanwhile at SL80 and below; you can stack VIG and END with a Raw weapon, you can get 60 INT and try to 1 shot people from a distance, and uhh... someone refresh my memory please cause I don't think I've seen any other kind of SL80 build
(SL80 and below cucks still haven't been able to answer this)

>>174635048
>redditor defending his 1 build memeta by deflecting
Can't make this shit up. Should you be making you epic PvE noob kills montage to post reddit, SL80> cuck?
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>hitting the stray demon in his legs enough times and they break
>he starts screaming loudly in pain and anger
O damn
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What are some viable options for a low level invasion build?

Ideally I'd like to invade in High Wall and Undead Settlement so I'm thinking I'll keep my character around level 20 with a +1, possibly +2 weapon. I basically just want to bully people who've only just made their characters.

I'm considering going for a raw Dragonslayer's Axe seeing as it has a decent AR unless there is a better option. I'm not too familiar with what weapons would have the most effect at these levels, so does anyone have any suggestions?
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>>174635129
>all japs
>every single fucking one
Would you like to show any proof at all for your claims? Or even state how it's fucking relevant?
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>>174635181
Greatshield phantoms.
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>>174634943
What kind of pushy resorts to throwing bombs instead of fighting like a man ?
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>Luci going to shitpost about his retarded 80SL two builds meta again
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>>174635316
give up, dude. SL80 is anri+regen territory. Specially now with filianore's cancer, there's nothing you can do but cry.
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>>174635216
>dex
>viable at 120

a sharp milwood axe does more than a sharp uchi
let that sink in
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>>174635098
It's lame if you're low hp and all they do is spam knives for the rest of the fight but I literally threw 2 bombs the entire duel and they're piss easy to dodge.
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>>174634943

Honorfags are scum. No fun allowed.
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I'm really not in the mood to see sl 80 vs sl 120 autism by a low level baiter.
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>>174635219
>lieutenant dan

my man

i have also seen popular movie!
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>>174635202
>braindead SL80> cuck can't make an argument so he blurts out insults
As expected after getting BTFO all past threads, I guess all that braindead noob killing has rotted your brain. Maybe come to SL125 where the big boys hang out so you can fire up your neurons some time

>>174635316
>still can't provide an argument
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>>174635436
>[DLC Weapon] does more damage
wow amazing
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>>174635216
>reposting this obvious lie
two "builds" are possible at SL120 and that's spellblade & quality

you're just a moron that can't play without 50 vigor & 60 endurance
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>>174635436
That's a problem with the weapon, not with the build.

However, Uchi has stance, the running R1 and better frame data.

Dex is only good for lothric knight sword, though.
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>>174635163
Mostly PvE, messing around in NG+. I don't think there is a practical reason to have it though. Seed is more relevant due to it affecting all enemies rather than just one. Also I think the time it's active is about the same as seed.
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>>174635582
>quality
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/151rdCnXVxKPaMcF8XUq9le2fFBS2uOFsv0kCouNpFpc/edit#gid=357720482
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>>174635241
Okay.
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuhVYy40PvvEVn1HKwzgt_g
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOkBYZgGttEu_Y8c_CQb81g
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs69PxEL6Jq5qdNtYElG1Mw
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjiDdpo3RgL0d0y2Yks9Gdw
>https://www.youtube.com/user/ULTIMANIAxOMEGA
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCku1r0KSS854Iq4AlhcWvvg
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCly_QOVCiceVdniFyloNK3w
Enough for you? Maybe you need 2ch links?
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>>174635582
dont forget strength poise r1 spam
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>>174635516
>so you can fire up your neurons some time
man that quality/spellblade r1 spam requires intelligence huh

120 is an absolute shitterfest, literally not a single good person to be found
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>>174635672
>every fucking jap
I'm gonna need more fucking links m8
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>>174635582
>SL80> tard still posting his le only spellblade (whatever the fuck that means) and quality (heavy and sharp got buffed so that's objectively wrong) non-argument after getting BTFO last thread
top kek
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What's the current complete shithead build for early game pvp. Like assuming I was able to go through the entire game and collect anything I needed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKaHQVDjJZQ

>starting a trailer with memes

As expected of Namco
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>>174635516
>still can't provide an argument
Oh I remember you "argument" Luci

>le caster builds are not viable at 120SL so we don't neet then at 80SL
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>>174635773
spellblade is stuff like cmw gotthards/dmb sellsword
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>he doesn't partake
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>>174635636
I meant from the invader's perspective, I used to run Rapport as an invader to have an easier time against seed, not against invaders. It was a countermeasure to not turn seeded worlds into a 1v50.
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Why are people so fucking scared of invading lvl 100+?
>More variety
>Late game maps are fun
>Fast invasions
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>>174635694
yeah I guess the new weapons added that too

>>174635773
>doesn't know what spellblade is
>tries to pipe up
go jump in the piranha pit
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>>174635798
for everything SL80 and below, go here >>174634819
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>>174634332
wow look at that hot damage lol
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>>174635720
i fought in both brackets for a long time and I can safely say that SL80 are the shitters. move on.
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>>174635798
How early are we talking? Vordt's hammer is really strong super early game. Frostbite in your guaranteed 2 hits, perseverance for extra defense and poise when fighting other heavy weapon users, etc.

I used that on my watchdog to get to 30 grass and it was easy
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AYO HOL UP
>SSS weapon art
SO
>casts ToD
YOU BE SAYIN
>unequips darkmoon ring
HOL UP HOL UP
>tries to cast but not enough fp
YOU SAYIN THAT
>blue sip
WE
>casts DMB
WUZ
>eats green blossom
HONORABLE
>duel bow
'N SHIET
>gets duel charmed
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>>174635924
I'm talking like, start of the game not leveling souls at all sort of thing.
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>>174635898
can't invade any area other than pontiff
you just invade fight clubs
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>>174635898
b-b-but then I won't be able to 1 shot noobs with my epic ''''build'''' I got from reddit :(((
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>>174635219
>finally manage to whittle down old demon king
>he roars and shoots out a huge aoe fireball
>barely dodge it, ready to run back in to continue the fight
>his flames are gone and he can't even lift his tree-hammer to attack me
>his low groans have that "just fucking do it" kind of vibe

First time I honestly felt pity for a boss, felt even more when I finally put him out of his misery
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Is this the blood? The blood of the Dark Souls II - Scholar Of The First Sin repack Mr DJ?
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>is a fucking angel of the apocalypse
>regains a semblance of humanity when he sees the blood of the dark soul
>turns on fire which is pretty much a metaphor for determination in this game
>all of those tormented fragments of the dark soul enclosed in fire and struck by lightning
>amazing arena
why didn't people like this guy more
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>>174635754
Oh, I see. Can you show proofs that makes 120SL invasions being reddit meta?
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>>174636064
but all the dugs and gaels are at 120
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>>174635857
And those suck. Unless you go 40/60 which is too much investment even for 120, you're better off with quality/heavy/sharp + bundles
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>>174635898
>attack
>they poise through it with an ultra meme weapon
>stunned for 1.5 seconds
>they get a second hit for another quarter of your health
>only requires a single reddit buddy to swing twice while your are stunned to kill you

120 invasions
NOT EVEN ONCE
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>>174636061
>DLC areas
>Grand Archives
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>>174636129
You go 40/60 and it's quite easy to accomodate in a sl125 build.

They do suck because the maps are just too big and easy to kite, also duel charms.
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>>174636035
*lighting arrow*
The meta is now, old man
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>>174635990
they're both shitters, but atleast SL80 players have brains enough to put together a build
something SL120fags will never manage
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>>174636113
>angel of the apocalypse

why are you using buzzwords

gael isn't an angel
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>>174636113
Because they're retarded, anon.
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>>174636208
>Activate perseverance
>Win using a fucking mace
>Not an idiot at invasions so I don't get gangbanged
Lol!
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>>174636259
>SL80 players have brains enough to put together a build
But logic behind building at SL80 and SL120 is same. What are you talking?
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>>174636218
Nah, if you make any buff build with less than 40 end, everyone can outrun it until the buff ends, unless you can softcap end with those stats, which you can't at such high SL, you're wasting your time. Even a small arena like HW won't help
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>>174636208
>he invades above 60
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>>174635125
What are the paladin weapons?
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>>174636386
>hit trade against *3 your dps
Holy shit how does this guy do it???????
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>>174636408
Don't be salty that other people are better at invasions than you are.
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>>174636386
sounds like absolute bullshit

>activate perseverance
>suddenly he doesn't have hyper armor anymore

oh wait no it doesn't work like that
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>>174636113
Because people were salty the last last boss of the Souls series was some nobody NPC and not some super cool fire dude or something
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>>174635883
I suppose before the nerf it would've useful, but now I think it's better to wait out the seed effect. With how short it is, it's better to leave the enemies alone so you still have mobs to fall back on. The only thing about the seed I dislike is that there is no sound effect when it is activated. When you're near the host it does have one, but not far away. It's a minor complaint though.
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>>174636289
his cape turns into wings
and I am pretty sure there was an "abaddon" string datamined from the dlc so I guess the intent is there
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>>174636113
I haven't played the dlc yet but why is that fag so excited about "trapping" us in the painting when we can just bonfire out 3 steps later?
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>>174635824
>luci
The fuck are you on, I argue for 125~ because everything is viable, even casters

>>174635720
>SL80> 3 shotting noobs with Raw DSA saying that 120 is spam
lmaooo

>>174636259
>SL80
>builds
Pick one. Enjoy your Raw DSA VIG stack 1 build memeta
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what if gael was in the main game
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>>174636624
Abbadon is the codename for the partake locusts.
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>>174636628
Because he knows you're still going to get around to it eventually.
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>>174636643
>>SL80
>>builds
>Pick one. Enjoy your Raw DSA VIG stack 1 build memeta
why are you so convinced everybody plays the same build or that only this build is possible, are you just shitposting?
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>>174635216
>SL80> cucks STILL can't answer this
Will there ever be a thread where SL80> turds don't get absolutely BTFO?
Spoilers: the answer is no
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>>174636259
>they're both shitters, but atleast SL80 players have brains enough to put together a build
show me all the possible builds at sl80. Remember you need to have more than 30 endurance to swing an ultra 4 times, also you need poise to actually win shit.
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Did Vordt get a buff at some point?
I just started my second playthrough, first was on release, in NG+ and i had more trouble with him now than i did then.
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>>174636064
>stutterposting
Why do you rush to out yourself as a shitposter? One shot builds are one of the reasons I think the meta should be lower. I believe that a build balancing damage and survivability shouldn't hit every one of its softcaps. People who might want to invest more heavily on defence or damage can't really do it because the returns from doing so are minimal. It forces everyone, unrelated to stat allocation, to have a similar damage/defence balance.
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WEW

i refuse to believe anyone who defends this game is anything but a memer. 20k souls lost because of this.
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>>174636424
Mornes
Lothric great sword
Maybe cathedrals
Maybe wolnirs
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>>174636628
deepest lore
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Why 80SL fags are so buttmad about 120SL?
Because they can't abuse epic minmax build in /dsg/ FC? 80SL always bitching for no reason. They don't like fighting against 120SL white phantoms or what? And I remember some some e-celeb playing only on 80SL. "Inferno something" his nickname. Is his cocksuckers here?
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>>174619297
git gud
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>>174636408
>pic

Am I not privy to some epin maymay?
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>>174636643
>>174635720
>>174635516
>>174634819
>>174634636
>level meta meme shitposting is back

but why

you faggots were at 120/125 for months without anyone niggering up the thread about it, what happened


sl 60-80 is great for invading shitty kiddypool new players and generally having guaranteed success on your red orb uses, 120~ is the actual "i want to fight real people" range

this has been literal dark souls canon for almost a year now and you apes are stirring up shit again
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>>174636492
>>174636554
Literally just trade with perseverance damage reduction then roll out you idiot?
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>>174636716
>fuck up
>fuck up again
>die
seems fair to me
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>>174636801
What are you a fucking retarded clown? Show me a 120's build but remember you need 60 in every stat.
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>>174636113

I don't care about literal last-minute whos as a final boss.
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>>174636850
>>174625785
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>>174636801
>this post
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>>174636850

>roll
>roll
>roll
>roll

I mean DaSII is objectively under the other two in the series but that gank squad isn't that tough to deal with. Maybe if the you tried attacking(!) you'd come out alive.
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>>174636850
>letting them spread out and surround you
>not standing your ground in the bottleneck and defeating them one or two at a time
>spamming rolls
No, I refuse to believe that YOU are anything but a memer.
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>>174636113
Wish there was more interaction with this guy. You only talk to him in the Cathedral of the Deep and has 2 lines during his boss fight. We barely know shit about the Painter, as well.
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>>174637009
He can show you 66STR build with poise
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>>174636961
You just got hit three times and got an additional rollcatch by phantom's spamming r1, congrats
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>>174637060
but anon, he ate the pygmies so it's like you're fighting the dark soul itself :^)
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>>174637009
You do need the numbers he said, though.
>>174636394
that's not hard.
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>>174629293
Sullyman is the offspring of Laddersmith Gilligan and the screaming tree at the bottom of Ariandel.
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>>174634932
crucifix isn't meta
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>>174629293
Likely a hybrid
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>>174630935
I always assumed it was purely out of habit.

The Soul of Cinder feels like something that manifested purely as an accident, or as the result of something else. Because it's a spirit that represents every previous Fire Linker, it's acting based off the instincts of its ancestors. Fight whomever comes to link the fire, despite it not really even mattering.
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>>174637009
Everyone runs some variation of this build at 120

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/179900

Go less dex if you don't need 18 for whatever meme weapon you're using and put it in vit or vig but that's about all that people change.
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>>174637146
Your hypotheticals vs my actual experience.
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>>174636769
How can he know this? If I kindle the flame and never go back, the story falls apart if that's what it's based on.

Then it just seems like the ability to warp between bonfires is just some 4th-wall-breaking game mechanic that the actual plot completely ignores.
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>>174637157
but this build isnt viable in duels let alone invasions
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>>174637061
>>174637106
>>174637117
guys you can stop now, i get it. you can stop with the ironic DaS2 defending.
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>>174637147
There's no real proper build-up to anything in 3.

Gwyn, Allant, and Vendrick were all alluded to in their games, SoC is just there.

The DLCs didn't do a good job building up Gael to be this end-all sort of guy, maybe if we had one more DLC after that one, it could have worked with Gael as the final boss.
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>>174637157
no you don't, you want poise endurance and str? Well make some fucking sacrifices in your rolling ability, that's what a build is supposed to be, decision making when it comes to allocating stat, not doing everything with no weaknesses
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>>174636850
This being your idiocy. I don't even like ds2 but that's dsp tier retardation. You have a nice ol' greatsword with wide swings and the game gives you a corridor to allow you to crowd control and what you do is get yourself surrounded. SOMEHOW. You're either retarded or did it on purpose to falseflag.
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>kill future gael
>past gael disappears

???
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>>174636801
>swinging an ultra 4 times
HOLY FUCK YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP
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>>174636832
>I believe that a build balancing damage and survivability shouldn't hit every one of its softcaps
Well too fucking bad cause my lightning buffed RAW DSA deals more damage than your shitty little ''''build'''' while going well over the VIG softcap. come to 125 next time if you want variety, kid

>>174636959
The fuck are you talking about, /dsg/ has always been pro-125, it's only been recently that fucking SL80> cockroaches have infested this general trying to push for their garbage 1 build memeta, and it's my duty to crush them with arguments and force them off this thread
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>>174637117
No anon, that spot is legit bullshit. If you are new to the game there is zero way to know that simply taking on step beyond the door THAT YOU HAD TO USE A BRANCH ON would aggro 7 different things at once. If you bottle them at the door with your average Fire Longsword, have fun smacking that shit against the wall because that is all that happens. Meanwhile they use their greatswords to double team you despite your "bottleneck"
Fuck that door, it cost me so much hollowing health of my first few times around
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>>174637117
the fact the game makes you stand at the bottleneck and kill 15 boring enemies to move on is damning enough
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>>174637352
Soul of Cinder was built up by the first game (hence his moveset being Gwyn's) and all of dark souls 3 which talks about all the other people that went to link the flame and joined their souls to it, hence why soul of cinder can use so many different attack styles in phase 1.
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>>174637157

I'm not any of the people you were talking too but god this image is a great example of how retarded the Prisoner's Chain buff was. It's imbalances literally every SL now because there is practically no downside to it while giving 15 free levels in stats everyone wants.
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>>174637446
keep reading it gets funnier

>you need to poise to actually win shit

>120 """"""""meta"""""""""
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>>174637323
It is VERY VIABLE in invasions, my man, much more than in dueling, that's for sure. With that you can oneshot literally everything in a small combo starting from an R1.
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>tfw finally beat The Nameless King
Thank you Captain Bob for the assist, don't know if I could have done it without you.
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>>174630935
I always assumed the soul of cinder was just a previous unkindled that chose the link the fire ending (you sit down exactly like the soul of cinder is sitting in the kiln) and somehow fused with the first flame
so I guess it could still be kind of hollow
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>>174637329
You're refusing to learn how the game is different, and whining every time you encounter a situation that could have easily been avoided. That is literally DSP tiers of bad.
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>>174637392
wut
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>>174637461
>it's my duty to crush them with arguments and force them off this thread

giving them literally any form of validation or response only encourages their dickshit logic in the first place

please stop fueling the fires of their blazing singular chromosomes with your banter
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>>174637484
Vit isn't useful for some builds. That one feels no different with 5 extra vit, only slgihtly less damage taken
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>its a Crystal Sage starts his teleport after a single hit episode
>its a Crystal Sage teleports before you can even reach him episode
>its a Crystal Sage resgh fa fuckrging faggirtoigeanifeaigmn episode
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>>174637329

DaSII is shit but you're even more shit lul
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>>174636896
I hate it because you either have to waste/not level for a large part of your levels or pick one of two options
neither of which I want to play

>>174637461
/dsg/ has always been for lower soul level metas
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>>174637446
What you can't make up is me getting in and 3 shotting your shitty little SL80 ultra ''''build'''' that runs out of stamina after swinging twice with my RAW DSA lmao
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>>174637629
just run up to him at the start and dodge the exploding ball
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>>174637537
I dont get it?

do you still think you can r1 into weapon art my man?

even if you could and for some reason you cant be staggered while doing it I really doubt it would do 1200-1500 damage in a single combo
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>>174637537
Obobobo please go, your builds were never good
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>>174637638
So show me your epic caster build.
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>>174637638
>/dsg/ has always been for lower soul level metas
4chan has always been contrarian regardless of whether it makes sense.
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>>174636113

>final boss isn't the anyone other than the Chosen Undead, i.e. a custom boss booted from the first character you finished Dark Souls 1 with on the same Steam account
>people are happy with Gael instead
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>>174635295
Some people aren't deserving of your manhood.
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>>174637629
If crystal sage has any of those five things around it then it can't teleport. You can cheese this by rotating around while you hit so It can never actually fire off at you.
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>>174637461
>kid
>multiple quotations
We've already established you're shitposting, no need to try this hard. Raw DSA is a matter of balance from From's part but it's one weapon. It's like claiming that because CCS was too good on a quality build, sl120 is invalidated as a whole. Go be a retard somewhere else.
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>>174637638
>/dsg/ has always been for lower soul level metas

no, /dsg/ has always been an SL120 fight club meta

the only people stating otherwise are shitposting contrarians like you

please stop vomiting all over the thread with this nonsense
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>>174637610

The extra 5 Vit though gives more room for armor with heavier defenses though.
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>>174637392
>Well make some fucking sacrifices in your rolling ability

are you being ironic

there is only 1 (ONE) roll tier in ds3
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>>174637629
>crystal sage doesn't teleport after you use all your stamina r1ing him
>die

god dammit
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>>174637573
>different

haha that's a good one. i'll save that one for myself next time i'm das2posting.

"it's just diferent" ahaha.
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>>174637825
>this is what 120 aka do everything fags actually believe
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>>174637813
5 extra vit is barely anything, you'll at most remove 10 damage from a swing.
The vit buff only matters if your build needs poise
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>>174637723
>implying I do anything but rush him like a mad cunt
I just really hate his fight.

>>174637779
>If crystal sage has any of those five things around it then it can't teleport
No fucking way. Well fuck me for not noticing that. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
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SL80> cucks literally on suicide watch
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>>174637772
>spear of the church wasn't an ultrabuffed ai version of another character on your account

:(
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>>174637461
I've been here since ds1 and there were a lot of sl 80s.

In ds2 a lot of new comers pushed for 150. So the 80s went to 120 and the 120s went to 150
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>>174637526
>an ultra getting shutdown by a mace 2hr1, despite having similar damage and the mace having triple the speed of an ultra
>he thinks this is fine because muh build sacrifices

wow i was gonna argue with you guys but the SL80 mindset seems to have destroyed your brains. pic related, the only build for sl80 meta that matters
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>>174635874
But I do partake
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sl120 fags BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>174620893
>>174620827

I know this is a terrible question because the lore is vague and especially so with regards to endings, but what's even the implication of the Kill The Firekeeper ending? Usurping is finally becoming the Dark Lord like Kaathe wanted (I guess?), so what exactly are you doing by presenting the First Flame to the Black Sun?
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>>174631309
>Yeah, but even if you weren't worthy, why would they care? If you're not, you burn and die. If you're not and fight them, you still die.
best part is that if they welcomed you to burn urself my man and decided "fuck that noise" it'd still be status quo. By fighting you, they risk the flame being permanently snuffed or even usurped. Shit's retarded
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>>174637982
>crutchfag trying to tell anyone about the game

enjoy your gael meta
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>>174636628
Because even though we can, we won't. At least, not from a story perspective.

There's a prophecy relating to the Painted World that is said to come into fruition when two Unkindled are present. There's already one Unkindled present in the Painted World when we get there, so when Gael sends us there, he's like, "Finally, fuck."

I could go on to explain more, but I'd be getting into spoilers.
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my sl>your sl
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>>174637306
It does ignore it for the most part. The bonfire in Snowfield and (maybe, just maybe) before the Rope Bridge are just there for convenience's sake. The bonfire in Ariandel Chapel seems to be actually there because it's referred to with speech.
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Remember 98BL Saif cucks?
>98BL meta is "official" in FC
>everyone actually 130BL+
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>>174637789
>no argument
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
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>>174638091
>>174637943
/v/ please leave
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>>174638178
But 346 > 150
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>>174638204
>Saif
Don't trigger me like that
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80SL cucks, can you stream /dsg/ your pvp? Especially casters
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>>174636850
How many takes did you need to get a video of gameplay this retarded?
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We need a janitor, this is getting outta hand
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Just got outskilled by grave warden that jumped through a doorway and made a 90 degree turn midair to my position
Can anybody share some outskilled webms to alleviate my pain?
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>>174636850
>i'm bad
>no, the game is bad
every time
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SL 80 fight club when?
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>>174632885
>>174633120

>tfw Alvina sounds like my stepgrandmother who raised mountain lions and timber wolves and is also a Celtic pagan

Get out of my childhood Miyazaki.
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Fuck soul level.

Let's discuss dragonsis instead!
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>>174637793
in DaS, DaS2 & DaS3, /dsg/ was for lower SL meta, reddit was forcing the higher SL meta and because they're more popular that was set as the actual "meta"

>>174637760
show me yours anon
both SL80 & SL100 have caster builds that work perfectly fine

and no, 40 dex isn't a caster build
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>>174638401
there is literally no defending having that many mobs being spammed at you on such a tiny narrow area. it's shit game design. the sword just bounces off the wall if you try to attack.
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When the Demons are two, a chaos flame alighteth. Thou'rt Demon, and fire befits thee, of course...
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>>174638186
So nobody else in the DS3 world even acknowledge that warping between fires is a thing?

Is it referenced in any item text even?

Because if it's not and it's basically a plain and simple "Level Select", then that really pulls all the impact out of the cutscene where Gael "lures you into his trap".
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>>174638417
>9/10 RAW DSA builds
witnessed
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>>174638508
i can't believe From got away with this
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>>174638417
we need to go lower

>>174638506
he was literally about to escape before he purposely stopped at the doorway to let the mob block it
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>>174638457
I like to slaughter any stupid dragons I come across at SL120.
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>>174638506
Maybe you should have prepared yourself for close encounters combat like that. I'm pretty sure there are a ton of weapons in the game that attack in a straight line.
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>>174638417
Yes please that would be fucking hilarious
>all the SL80 cucks running around with their ''unique'' ''''builds''''
>I come in and 3 shot them all with my big dick Raw DSA
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>>174637774
You ain't seen nuthin

Captcha: Kobe 1900
KOBE
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>>174634943
>Be UGS fag
>Refuse to hardswap weapons
>Have Black Firebomb, Black Ropebomb, Knives and Charms slotted at all times
>Trusty Heavy Crossbow slotted with Explosive and Splintering bolts on
>People get mad everytime because I use my items when they run away forever because you it's that easy to reaction dodge UGS swings if that's all you want to do in the fight.
I've had so many group invites it's crazy
>>
>>174638548
>>174638643
doesn't a spear beat that?
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>>174638594
You go lower and it's still VIG gouging and using the few raw weapons with great damage.
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>>174638490

>/dsg/ was for lower SL meta,
no?? i've routinely been hosting fight clubs for /vg/ since Dark Souls only had a console edition, before /vg/ even existed as a board

DAS PS3 meta was a solid 120, DAS2 was around 150 give-or-take due to soul level fuckery and mandatory ADP shitting up everyone's build, DAS3 is a return to 120

without exaggeration, the ONLY people pressing for a lower soul level are ironic shitposters looking for attention
>>
>>174638594
i stopped because i saw the lone enemy coming towards the doorway, he was already blocking it. you just can't see very well because the webm quality
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>>174638332
I would if I could, recording is already stressful enough, let alone streaming
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>>174638369
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>>174638490
>both SL80 & SL100 have caster builds that work perfectly fine
Stream 80SL pvp. Don't tell me you play on toaster
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>>174638594
>we need to go lower

>invading woods/swamp as maneater mildred
>sl24 +2
>happen upon a makeshift fight club
>as if that wasn't bizarre enough, I actually managed to win a fight
>even scored a backstab for the first time in pvp
It was nice.
>>
can a so called 120 """""invader"""" tell me what went through your mind when you decided that it would be a good idea to invade people who have optimised their builds?

>invade a gaelfag
>on the offchance he's actually alone hes got a mere 8 +10 estus flasks above you and can combo for 75% of your health through your attacks
>this is the 1% scenario where he doesnt have phantoms

>>174638717
hes in a magical world where a +6ish raw DSA deals 1000 damage through armor and has infinite poise and gets 3 hits instead of 2
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>>174638737
that ass slap
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>>174638727
time and time again people on /dsg/ advocated lower soul levels
100 in DaS & 120 in DaS2

this is honestly the first time I've seen so many people defending the meta being 120 in a souls game on here
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>>174638849
>>174638849
>>174638849
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>>174637306
It's just what Player Characters do.

One of the NPCs even goes so far as to say this. People like the Chosen Undead, Bearer of the Curse, and Ashen One are just naturally curious people who don't stop going.
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>>174638829
Who the fuck asked you to fight fair if you're so shit at even 1v1 pvp?
Just rely on plunging attacks, throwing hosts off cliffs and attacking while the host is distracted and you'll win almost every invasion.
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>>174638737
That Undead Soldier wants some booty
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>>174638535
>"Sword missing from the shrine bonfire.

>Cannot be equipped as a weapon.

>Thrust into the shrine bonfire to restore its power and enable travel between bonfires.

>This sword is only bequeathed to chosen ash, as judged by the Iudex, who awaits the arrival of ash as a scabbard."
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>all the SL80> cucks getting called out
What a massacre, are there even any SL80> cucks in this thread right now? Or have they all commited mass suicide from embarrassment?
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>>174638506
Acquire proficiency.
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>>174638535
No, they exist.

It's just unlikely that all of them in the game are actually there. Some are, but some are obviously not, like those that spawn after bosses.

>Fragment of the coiled sword of a bonfire which served its purpose long ago.

>Returns caster to last bonfire used for resting, or to the bonfire in Firelink Shrine. Can be used repeatedly.

>Bonfires are linked to one another irreversibly, retaining their affinity long after their purpose is exhausted.
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>>174638737
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>>174638984
kek, i feel silly
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>>174638650
>no number near the firebomb

Nice hacks fag
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>>174638430
>pls respond
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>>174638829
This is 80SL invasion range.
108SL host already can summon 128SL phantoms and 133SL darkmoon
You don't trick anyone about 80SL pvp experience.
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>>174639147
pssh that's nothing. I'll send you to the shadow realm
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>>174638737

Good ol' heatseeking hollows.
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>>174623050
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>>174638829
I want to invade people who know what they're doing.
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>>174638508
holy shit are you serious
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>>174639113
DS1 combat was the jankiest shit.
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>>174639248
>that bow
Perfect.
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>>174639104
wow good job completing the area with a character 4x my level.
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>>174629957
What the christ even happened?
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>>174640052
>He thinks this is NG
>He thinks basic spacing and movement are level dependent.
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>>174640052

Then...level up?
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>>174636725
it would have made his boss fight better if he had more appearance in the main game.
They also probably cut a Dancer npc that was supposed to be in the game, I would have like to know about her more
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>>174632986
Just fuck their darksign.


Where the fuck is the darksign on the body, anyway? Obviously there's the gross veins on your chest, but it's also supposed to be a ring located somewhere on you? There's no difference between the Darksign and the Dark Sigil, right, with the Ashen One only starting with a Darksign because video game mechanics?
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>>174641839
I've always thought the dark sign's on the pinky for some reason
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>>174636113
He's the last boss in the series so unless it was cybernetically enhanced Velka-9000 riding on a hydra made of all 10 Primordial Serpent heads, people would be disappointed.
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>>174638204
I remember when that guy came out with his build about having blood vials that heal ~600 and then showing the screenshots.
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