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Grand Order Edition

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.jp/
https://shadowverse.com/

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Stormed: >>174494871
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Hey let's give a class 12 (twelve) ramp spells with good secondary effects, and the best heals and board clears in the game. What could go wrong?
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40639
Concede please
rowen is best dragon leader
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>>174526746
You know what the best part is? It could only get worse from here on. Any ramp card they print will only make dragon better. Every neutral high cost lego that is unusable in any other deck is going to make dragon better. Any half decent dragon card will make dragon better.
You cannot stop this once it's began because cheating pp is an inherently OP mechanic.
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>play aegis haven
>don't draw any aegis until the game is over

>play pepe swords
>draw neither any pepes nor conscription, can't play

Today is just great
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Play blood.
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Post lesbians.
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>two dshifts in a row
>stomp both as expected even with a bad curve
this is getting sad runebros, can't you guys just stop already?
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>>174526981
i already do
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>>174526510
Just spend like 5000$ and make an all animated Dragon deck. No need to vial anything.
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>>174526985
The purest form of love.
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>>174526203
>What's with tumblr and that meme shaved sized desu?
Probably don't have the money to be able to afford going to an actual hairdresser that can give a decent haircut
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>>174526794
thanks luna
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>>174527010
I mulched a bunch of haven and rune cards to make kys blood.
If Rune's ever good again, it's going to be on account of cards from the next expansion. Everything is way too fast to dick around with spell boosts.
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>>174526921
Yeah ypu said the same shit for daria.
Vrymore bb
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>>174527139
Don't even remind me. I want to forget the fact that I vialed 2 animated Soul Dealers since DE.
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i actually want them to rotate sets soon
this game has gotten yugioh-tier fast in only 3 expansions, i hope they tone down the power creep in future sets
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Disco strong
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>>174527237
Hey dude.
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>>174527219
But Dorothy got absolute shit all this expansion.
Did rune get any cheap spells? No.
Did rune get any reasonable spellboost followers? No.
Did rune get any more cheap burn? No.

All it got are two brick spells and some dirt support.
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>>174527357
>Did rune get any reasonable spellboost followers? No.
>chimera
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>>174527010
Nah, they need to make sure to bring down every other controlish class that isn't dragon with their 30% winrate. Rune shitters exist only to fuck over anyone trying to enjoy the game.
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>eachtar is broken
>ouroboros+zell isn't

lol k
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>>174527403
I said reasonable.
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>>174527357
Thabks for proving my point.
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>>174527357
Don't reply to ESL shitposters
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I'm just here enjoying my 90% win rate over mid shadow with forest. Kids don't know how to build counters these days, all they do is whine
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>tfw Discordfags are actially paying real money to a Malaysian hacked to add hacked crystals to their account
>tfw the fag running the Discord actually allows this to happen

These people are scum
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what's the biggest meme card in this game?
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>beaten by triple Dshift, triple enchanted sword buffed Freshman Lou
This is how I want to die IRL
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>>174527443
Yeah, literally nobody said that, shadownigger.
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Nerf yurius 2pp for 1 3 is overstatted
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>>174527357
What kind of support do you think dorothy is going to get in the future?
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>>174527518
And how do you know this without being on their channel?
You are a discord fag too I bet, kill yourself discordfag
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>>174527491
So your point is that they are not going to print any ramp or neutral legos next expansion? You might be right on the ramp and good dragon card part but they are absolutely going to have another poster neutral lego for the next expansion.
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>>174527518
Pretty sure that's illegal and easy to find out by kikegames since they love money so much
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>when you destroy midrange shadow's early game
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>>174527607
They were talking about it in the last thread you fucking idiot. KYS niggerblood
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41360
Concede please
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>play csword against ramp dragon in RoB
>very close match for both sides, hella intese
>play csword against ramp dragon in ToG
>sword get shat on so hard it's not even duel

Is there any control deck that can survive dragon?

I can't think of any.
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>>174527505
>t6 and midshadow plays deaths breath
>you lose
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>>174527526
Easily
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>>174527663
Aggro rune does surprisingly well against shadow. Too bad you get completely annihilated by dragon.
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>>174527253
If they just throw out DE it won't change much and I doubt they'll rotate RoB so soon. I'm curious as to what their approach will be.
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>>174527704
>control decks
>beating dragon
Maybe Haven if Dragon is slow and they get out Aegis
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>>174527620
Of course it's fucking illegal. I have half a mind to report these guys and the seller/hacker to Cygames
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>>174527614
The point of daria was that any spell would buff the deck.
The point of dragon is that any ramp card would buff it.

So just create another archetype? Or buff discard? Or even megalorcar decks
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>>174527704
>'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''control''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' sword
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>>174527518
t. butthurt whale
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>>174527714
Homecoming, oh look at that I win
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What did she mean by this?
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>>174527784
I thought this was a 3d rendering when I clicked it.
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>>174527762
>when dragon doesn't play oracle turn 2
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>>174527704
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>>174527809
Control sword isn't like "midrange", they are actually control, except have 3 Alberts as win condition.
You can't blame a control deck for wanting to win games.
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>>174527526
phoenix roost (rip)
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>>174527673
Thanks Luna
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>>174527518
Why the fuck would anyone pay money for this game anyway?
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>>174526510
>Deleting Sword
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Today a neppy deck learned the hard way that levin duke's effect triggers before the neppy last words.
RIP
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>>174527809
Yes there's no control sword all control decks should be like haven decks. Diversity in classes playstyle is cancer.
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>>174527849
Nice t7 do nothing that nobody runs anymore.
Midshadow will just play it again or use grimnir
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>>174527902
>no clear
>no draw
>poor removal
playing wards on curve isn't control, it's just top heavy midrange
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>>174527704
Yes.
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>>174527823
>implying I'll ever spend money on a F2P game, especially one as generous and grind-free as this
>implying I'll ever hand my money over to some kind of Malaysian monkey
You're probably one of the idiots who bought the hacked crystals.
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>>174527891
>lightning blasts
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>>174527923
Tbh ramp dragon would be even worse once they let phoenix loose again.
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>>174528053
wtf is Kiwi an elf?
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>>174528024
>no clear
Cyclone blade
>no draw
Mentor's teaching
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>quest to win 4 sword matches
>play rob albert deck with grimnir and luminous added
>winstreak off pathetic control deck cunts that normally shit on my meme decks i play for fun
>every match is "curve out and hit face"
>this is literally the only good sword deck that ever existed

winning has never been so boring
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>>174528103
I guess the frog deck is control too
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>>174528024
Also no heal.

Dragon is the only real control deck in the game.
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>>174528063
Doesn't works as well as you'd expect dragon cuck :^)
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>>174528104
You can try playing mememanders deck with kekwain and lose to everything.
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>>174527939
My thinking is that these people are the ones that are susceptible to addictive activities, such as gambling. So in this case, they're addicted to opening packs and are paying money to get a higher amount of crystals to be able to open more of them.
Basically they have more fun opening packs and being amused at seeing their "luck" than playing the game.
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>>174528015
Lol I have 7 heal cards and 100% roach tutor. I also run that shitty amulet for early game. If I reach 8-9 mana shadow is fucked unless they ward which I can easily remove. looks like I'm the only one with the brains to build a counter deck huh. Homecoming is the obvious solution
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good kys deck?
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>>174528263
I started playing in late January and just dumped a bunch of spare dosh on this game to catch up with my collection.
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>every match is "curve out and hit face"
That summarizes Blood and Shadow too
It's just ends up being Sword's identity because it doesn't have any class mechanics like Vengeance or Ramp. Just play dudes and trade/face.
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>>174528274
>if I reach 8-9 mana
>against Shadow
Nice projection you got there.
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>>174528104
That's what Sword is right now. They printed Gawain and Roland, but Sword's best deck is still all about Storming your opponent down anyway. Maybe next set. Maybe.
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When will aggro combo be viable again?
I want to bounce 3 goblins on turn 3 without screwing over my roach pulls.
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OSAI

OSAI

OSAI
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>>174527518
Imagine being so riled up over a chat
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>>174528059
>implying I'm not a poorfag too
good talk anon I'm glad we had this chat
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21067
need help with the private match achievements, bring your aggro deck
0/20
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>>174528332
I was referring to the people paying money for an extremely higher ratio of hacked crystals
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>>174528540
Do not reply to him, newfriend.
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>>174528440
>makes one post
>riled up
lol
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>>174528647
>crying about what other people do
u seem upset bru
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>>174528404
Where are the random meme decks that come out of nowhere and pull off crazy combos even if it's 1 out of every 20 games in this flowchart?

>>174528540
Oh my bad.
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>>174528621
O-ok...

>>174528459
hehe
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>>174528647
>>174528717
u both seem mad as fuck my dudes
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>>174528621
>him
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>>174528540
>higher ratio
So, it's not a guaranteed thing.How can they be so retarded to give a Malaysian mudslime money?
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>>174528462
21067
thanks otohime and saha, keep them coming
2/20
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>>174527253
The power disparity between cards is huge. Most cards are garbage except a chosen few which are ridiculously op like they come from a different game. Shadow is the exception before ToG. I don't want to see artists work wasted on cards like Sukuna and Gemstone Princess.
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>>174528815
He buys google play cards in his own currency you fucking retard
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>>174528104
That's what happens when an entire class's gimmick is a failure. Notice how the only commander-officer interaction in most sword decks is maid pulling Albert. Same with blood before the new vengeance decks got discovered.
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>lol luminous mage
>lol Erin
>lol free evos

I still don't get why cards like those are fucking allowed. As soon as the nerfs hit both elf and sword will be unbearable.
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>>174529156
nothing personel kid
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>>174528942
thanks urias
21067 3/20
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>>174529159
Doesn't really matter when I just salamander his whole board.
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>>174528815
what's amusing is for all they know, this guy is using the funds for some shady shit. It's not out of the realm of possibility that he's earning this gamer money to add to the coffers of a Malaysian terrorist org
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>dragoniggers are using JO crystal + grimnir now

Even more cancerous than ever.
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>>174528778
>Being a neutral bystander-cuck
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>>174528957
>I don't want to see artists work
The artists don't make any work for SV cards. All card art is taken from Rage of Bahamut, with the exception of the alternate Cavalier and Quickblader arts..
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>>174528274
>100% roach tutor
So you're not running any early game.
Good to know you don't make it to turn 5
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>>174529038
>He buys google play cards in his own currency you fucking retard
Sure bro, he buys google play cards and is able to add the crystals to another player's account. Riiiiggghht.
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>>174529448
It's not true JO if it has follower
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>dragonfriends are actually starting to run dragoon scythers more consistently now
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roach, levi, reaper, and grimnir are all balanced cards
strong but not overpowered
>I died to roach
your opponent spent multiple resources throughout the game and held onto them all for one big combo which could be countered with some cheap wards
>levi cleared my board
he held onto levi until turn 4 and could have played a card similar to cudgel/dragon warrior/goblin breaker for even more value
>levi isn't a problem anymore
I'm glad you've realized this
>I died to reaper
he held onto reaper for several turn until he won board presence, then he played his win more card and traded his board to feed it
>I died to grimnir
he held onto grimnir until turn 10 to get 4 face damage
>I died to ramped grimnir
it could have been bahamut that cleared your board, satan that stole the match or forte/zell that outright killed you instead
>grimnir stole my board presence on turn 3
there are many powerful early game spells to kill grimnir without losing tempo
there are also many powerful evolution cards to remove him along with another card while gaining board presence
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>>174529597
that's because he logs in with your account
some people in this general are really stupid
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What would you do with your own Elf Butler, /svg/?
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>>174528745
>Where are the random meme decks that come out of nowhere and pull off crazy combos even if it's 1 out of every 20 games in this flowchart?
Right there on the top where it says combo and on the bottom where it says control.
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>>174529231
thank you vampy and urias
21067 5/20
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>>174528372
Whatever nigger my deck is t0
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>>174529719
Sell him.
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>>174529637
Those are cute panties.
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>>174529649
>some people in this general are really stupid
yea, like the people paying real money to a Malaysian hacker to add virtual currency for a F2P game lmao
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>>174529719
God I hate this faggot so much
And also the balanced 6/8 taunt rush of free heals
Why do people say forest is dead, is as cancerous as ever.
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>>174529820
>poorfags
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>>174529719
Dress him up as a maid and demolish his boypussy.
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>>174529589
I run that amulet and can heal off the chip damage dumb cunt. You never played my deck so you wouldn't know
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>>174529847
Because they die to shadow and zell baha at turn 6
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>>174529847
Nobody says forest is dead.
They got 2 staple golds that will go into any and every non-aggro forest deck from now on.
They consistently bully dragon and do well against everything else except shadow.
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>>174529882
Can I demolish yours?
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>>174529851
>I've run out of actual bullshit to defend why I'm giving my money to a Malaysian hacker so I'll just call him a poorfag even though Im the one that wants to get more crystals from a hacker than the amount Cygames is selling
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man, storm mirrors are the definition of livig on the edge
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>>174530020
>They consistently bully dragon

lmfao
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>>174529940
>Hurr they die to a combo that requires perfect draws
Every deck also died to turn 4 Daria but nobody said other decks were shit because they died to daria. Also the chances of having a ward with more than 4 health protecting you from that bullshit isn't that low.
>They die to shadow
Who doesn't?
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>>174529038
I'm not sure whether Google play gives cheaper rates but I'm think that steam charges you at the current exchange rate. So that Malaysian dude probably stole some google play cards lets be honest. There's no such thing as a hack for crystals unless you hack the server through all the securities.
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>>174529563
I'd rather play with good art like Sukuna instead of Feena. There are new arts created for sv. Maneating groves is new I think.
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>>174530165
>Sword vs Haven
>"mirror"
HMMMM
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>>174530325
Deck type mirror, rather than craft mirror
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>>174528540
>hacked crystal

That's not what "hack" means. I can go to taiwan or china get a credit card. Convert my money from USD to yen and buy it for cheaper, this isn't a hack. You can also ask a relative if you have one for a credit card with the street address located in asia or other countries.
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>>174530297
He can only give Crystals to mobile accounts, because there's no way he can hack a Steam Shadowverse account

Yea, there's no way he can give 15k crystals just from "cheaper" "Google play cards"
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>>174530194
The roach tarzan deck literally never loses to dragon.
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>>174530297
Cards generally don't have value until activated by the cashier, so unless you're delusional like >>174529363 and think this guy is performing armed robbery to make marginal amounts of money in an anime card game, I don't think that's what's going on.

It's most likely just what >>174530406 says.
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>>174529847
What is Vist even good for? A 2/5 ward seems pretty useless pass turn 4.
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>bring a dragoncuck to 1 hp
>heal
>heal
>heal
>heal
>heal

Fuck this broken ass no fun allowed craft. At least shadow doesn't fucking heal all the time.
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>>174526583
I heard F/GO will release English version.

It's worth playing?
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>>174530678
Nice attempt at damage control

>hacking crystals is now armed robbery
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>>174530847
Why don't you ask their thread
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>>174530850
learn how to fucking read
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>>174530847
If you enjoy being fucked by RNG in the ass, sure.
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>>174530847
It's not a card game, so it won't really scratch the same itch.
The gamplay's the thing.
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>>174530194
He's dumb in saying that forest bullies dragon but they actually moved up to around a 50% winrate with dragon now. The only thing that is retarded is facing all the faggots playing the stupid cancerous shadow decks.

Depending on how hard they nerf shadow, forest has the most to gain from it.
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>>174530847
You clearly don't master English so why ask?
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>>174530678
That cheaper currency shit doesn't make sense because the prices are adjusted. Look here man there's no way 60usd can buy 3 times the amount of crystals.
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>>174530847
>1% for 5* servant
>no guaranteed 4* servant in 10 rolls
In for waifu, skip otherwise
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>>174530882
>asking in a thread where they will shill it

Na
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>>174531014
That's what I was saying. You don't need to be a fucking genius to see there's no way he's giving 15k crystals through legitimate means.
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>>174531054
There are plenty of people that dislike the game despite playing it. Likewise here, esl-san
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>>174531054
So instead you ask in a thread for a totally different game.

At this rate, you might as well go to /ksp/ or maybe /civ4x/ generals and ask them if FGO is good too
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>>174527801
>megalorcar decks
Hopefully this. That latest orca card they added is right, those things are cute as hell.
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>>174531181
>reading comprension

English isn't your first language is it?
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>>174530847
>playing
Gachasimulators aren't games anon.
t. DMM expert
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>>174528159
...Aegis?
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>>174531014
Im thinking about creating a lot of clones and do a lot free offers (surveys, install apps, video ... etc) then redeem cards.
10$ USD cards = 2~4$ cash
I used to do it in MMO but quitted 5 years ago
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I'm giving money to the Malaysian dude guys am I going to get banned? 15k crystals tho. Shieeeett
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>>174531014
For the people not familiar with exchange rates, 350 RM = $80 US for 5000 crystals so that's $240 for 15k crystals

Funnily enough, the guy claiming "cheaper googleplay cards" has suddenly shut up now
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>>174530678
>>174531014
He probably stole someone's credit card info and is giving out crystals for money, and is just saying the purchases are from google play cards.
>>
Should I sell my last csgo skines on steam or ebay?
>1-5 steam
>6-9 ebay
>0 howl goes as well
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Why the fuck is lightning blast allowed to banish amulets?
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>>174531682
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>>174531596
And the Discordfags ACTUALLY believed him ROFL
Now there is absolutely no doubt that Discordfags have subhuman levels of intelligence. XD
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>>174531014
He's using stolen CC. it's very common strategy in third world
You use some hack CC to buy some shit in game then trade it for money
t.third world lad
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>>174531467
Your account will probably get all the cards vital'ed and your money stolen. It's too good to be true.
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>Come to bed, anon
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>>174531682
because dev's son is a dragon main
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>>174531846
How naive, dumb, and/or sheltered are these guys to be able to believe some random Malaysian can somehow buy extremely cheap googleplay cards?
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>>174531958
but it's 3pm and it's too fucking hot dumb trampy
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>>174531958
>hello police, there's a unknown child in my bed
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>>174530847
>Gacha collector
>Fateshit

As if you couldn't ask for more reasons not to play a game. From what I hear the gameplay is pretty mundane too.
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>>174532051
Remember anon, we're talking about Discord here.
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>>174532118
>an unkown child with a broken body
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>>174531958
I wish I was Vampy. I would've sucked the cocks of every single person in this general.
namefags can fuck off though
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>>174532051
Teenager
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>>174532118
I wouldn't tell that to the police if I were you.
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>>174532180
Now I'm wondering how to rank these guys in terms of stupidity; Twitch, Discord, and Reddit
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>>174532242
sorry, only pure girls allowed on this general
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>>174532118
>>174532261
that is a surefire way to get arrested for pedophilia indeed.

children hold all the power. all she'd have to do is play dumb, say something like we were just gonna play grown up games and BAM, you're a registered sex offender.
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>>174532506
If I'm going to be a registered sex offender anyway, I'm going to enjoy myself and fuck her brains out before she can call the cops
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>>174532506
>We live in a world where lolis can rape men and get away with it every time
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Buy Vampy.
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https://medium.com/@tomanderson_47035/midrange-shadow-an-analysis-shadowverse-9fdb998e7364

I know everyone here already realized that Shadow is busted, and most likely knows why too, but this is a great read to goes into detail why exactly it is as strong as it is, the differences between the aggro and midrange variant and just how the midrange version has affected the ladder as a whole.
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>>174532651
at least they can't get people executed anymore.
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>>174532506
>>174532651
That's right, you little virgin losers.
Better do EXACTLY what I say, or else!
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>>174532693
I would, if she were for another craft.

Urias is way too aesthetic for me to drop though.
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>>174532794
I should probably read it before asking this, but who is this and why should I care?
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>>174533070
It's a literal huge blogpost written by a literally who. Don't bother.
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>>174533070
he fucked your mom
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>play T1 ramp dragon
>lose to otk roach, kys blood, aggro shadow, storm haven

Nice game shadowbabs
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>>174532693
>tricking me to roll gacha
You only worth 800 vials at most.
Stupid Vampy
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>>174532261
>>174532506
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>>174532794
Stop shilling your blogpost here
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>pull 5 legendaries from the starter packs
>they are all shit
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>>174530958
I thought that image was vampy getting BLACKED from the thumbnail desu.

>>174532242
>namefags can fuck off though
I don't wanna be sucked by a fat guy in a loli's body so no thank you. Slut.
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>>174533509
>starter packs
So, you are new?
>they are all shit
How can you tell?
Post them.
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Numbers are in:


1位 疾走ランプドラゴン (storm ramp) 勝率58.9%
2位 ミッドレンジネクロ (mid necro) 勝率58.3%
3位 アグロネクロ (aggro necro) 勝率55.5%
4位 ネフティスネクロ (neph necro) 勝率54.7%
5位 白銀エルフ (silver bolt efl) 勝率52.7%
6位 フェイスロイヤル (face royal) 勝率52.4%
7位 疾走ビショップ (storm bishop) 勝率51.6%
8位 アグロロイヤル (aggro royal) 勝率51.4%
9位 アグロヴァンパイア (aggro vamp) 勝率51.3%
10位 フェイスドラゴン (face dragon) 勝率51.2%
11位 (OTK)コンボエルフ (OTK elf) 勝率51.1%
12位 ミッドレンジロイヤル (mid royal) 勝率50%

Where are the dragoniggers crying about shadow now?
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>>174533701
Source?
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>>174533701
Where are these numbers from?
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>>174533701
Where did you get these numbers from?
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>>174533193
Hello dad? What are you doing here?
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>>174533820
>>174533836
Shadowlog, where else?
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>>174533219
What's wrong, you can't mulligan for your fucking ramp cards? How are you losing to those trash decks?
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>>174533641

>so you are new?

more or less, I planned on playing before, but I got bored of rerolling the packages
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>>174533965
Sasuga anon.
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>>174533701
>nephtis
>54.7%
How? In this meta?
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>>174533914
Shut up and stop playing these nerd games!
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>Levi is 4/4 on evolve
>Zell is 4/4 on evolve
>lolisquisher is 4/4 on evolve
>dwarf alchemist is 3/3

Why is Cygames so fucking retarded? Dirt is already is one of the worst archetypes second only to discard yet they gimp it even further. As if playing 2 cards to do something any other crafts get for free is not enough.
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>>174533701
we already established that storm ramp's winrate is the way it is because of people misreporting
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>>174534096
Powercreep and because cygames never touch old cards. If they did then Skullfane, Fafnir etc. Would be useful
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>>174534096
The other two I agree with, but Soul Squasher has no effect on evolve, why would she not be 4/4?
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>>174534051
>How?

Just think about it. Lots of dragons.

Lightning blast doesn't come all the time.
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>>174534096
Zell is situational.
Squisher doesn't have evolve effect.
Retard?
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>>174533925
>Satan Dragon 65.1% winrate

HMMMMMMMMMM
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>>174534190
Because her effect is absurdly good. to evo into a 4/4 on top of that is silly.
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>>174533925
>it's another "shadownigger tries to defend his broken deck by pointing at misreported games for another broken deck" episode
What a waste of time, I hate this rerun
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>>174534096
Lolisquasher is a fanfare it makes perfect sense to get full stats on evolve as the evolve doesn't have any additional effects.
Tutoring is huge (Maid leader, Merlin, Avant and Lou are -1/-1 base for example)
Levi and Zell are retarded yes, but dwarf getting that slight buff won't have an effect 90% of the time.
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>>174534313
That is absolutely irrelevant to her evolved statline.
Only followers with evolve effects get reduced statlines.
There's literally dozens of cards in this game that have "absurdly good" non-evolve effects and still get to evolve for +2/+2. Having a good effect has nothing to do with your stat increase (unless the effect is evolve only).
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>>174533965
Cerberus and Sibyl are top tier.
Aurelia is very good.
Pascale is only played on meme decks.
Lord of the Flies is bad because Shadow has now multiple better 7 drops.
Overall 60% of the legendaries are good, so not bad. The only problem is the number of them.
Aim for 7-8+ legendaries and post them here for us to help you.
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>>174534361
How do you know shadow is broken? The stats are misreported.
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>>174534051
Nep still triggers Khawy's retarded last words
Turn 10(yeah yeah) Nep + Sexton fucks dragon over as it makes Lightning Blast irrelevant.
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>>174534051
>self reported stats
>how????

Think about how retarded these SELF REPORTED stats are first.
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>get 3 razories in hand before turn 6
>in addition to curve
>16 face damage on turn 6
Should've played around it, bruh.
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just lost 10 games in row with dshift. Even lost to Heaven fag who runs for some reason Gravekeeper Sonia and Shrine Knight Maiden. Currently in game vs shadow.
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>>174534745
saying you are playing dshift doesnt mean much. are you still running merlins? are you running the blade mages? are you half assing it with only 2 dshifts?
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Please concede
87643
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>>174534745
Don't worry, """aggro""" dirt is even worth because it actually loses to Dshift itself.
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>>174534931
Thanks Vampy.
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How is Dragon not tier 0?
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There's just something disturbing about a fully-grown man who owns stuffed toys and puts them on his bed. It sets off an internal red flag.
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>>174535258
Tier 0 isn't a literal tier, it's a term for the ONE strongest deck in the game at a time.
Which is currently midrange aggro.
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>>174535258
Kill yourself, shadownigger.
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>>174535386
Midrange Shadow*, my bad
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>>174535316
Is it that he has a horrible sense for interior decoration?
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>>174535316
Most modern humans suffer from a bad case of infantilism and never grow out of childhood.
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>win 6 ranked game quest
>already have all standard cards
T-thanks cygames.
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>>174535316
You are fully-grown man playing a chinese cartoon online card game designed for pedos. How are you any better than him?
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>>174534436
Just play this out in your head.

Enemy evolves something. literally doesn't matter what. let's just use shadow. It's turn 5, they just cleared your board on turn 4 and and have 3 followers, 1 evolved whatever, 1 necro rabbit and 1 spartoi. drop a soulsquasher, kills the evolve, trade into rabbit. if she was a 3/3 evolve she'd be dead, but she's a 4/4 and now cleared one evolve and one follower while still remaining on the board. For 2 cost. you can now play a 3 cost. let's just say you play a rabbit.

that's now a 4/1 and 3/2 on the field that cleared evo and one other follower for 5pp 1 evo.

tell me what other 2pp can do that.
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>>174535518
No, imagine how he sleeps on that bad and hugs those stuffed toys
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>>174535718
>How are you any better than him?
I don't need the equivalent of a security blanket to hug when I sleep
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>>174535795
>tell me what other 2pp can do that.
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>Wake up
>Look at dailies
>Play 6 ranked games
>Win 3 as haven or dragon
>Win 4 as rune or forest
>Change the later
>Win 1 as shadow
>Don't even feel like it, meta is shit and simply not fun
>Won't even have enough for a totg pack
>Close the game
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>>174535962
>replacing gold missions that give you more than 20 gold
You deserve it.
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>>174535907
Congratulations, big boy.
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>>174536169
How "big" is this boy?
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>he isn't playing Hello Royal to counter Shadow
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>>174535937
Levi can't empty board clear anything above 3hp alone without dying himself. Is he stupid good? yes. Can he clear evolve above 3/3 while still living? no. you have to use other cards with him.
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>>174535795
Just play this out in your head.

Whatever you said is absolutely irrelevant as you've already been told that reduced evolve stat lines only get put on followers with effects that trigger ON evolve.

Hector gets +2/+2.
Daria gets +2/+2.
Sybil gets +2/+2.
Albert gets +2/+2.
Isfrafil gets +2/+2.
Reaper gets +2/+2.
Cerberus gets +2/+2.
Rahab gets +2/+2.
Prince Catacomb gets +2/+2.
Clarke gets +2/+2.
Grimnir gets +2/+2.
Yurius gets +2/+2.
etcetc.
No matter what their effect is, as long as it's not evolve specific it does not affect their evolve stat line. No matter how many followers they can trade into. There's no "discussion" to be had here, you're just flat out incorrect.
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>>174536169
thanks!
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>>174536225
This boy is 6 inches from base to tip, Sergeant (I realized when I was using a ruler to draw a line that I had never actually measured my dick). I'm not exactly an arrow though, so it's hard to get an accurate reading.
I don't see what that has to do with anything though.
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>>174536438
>This boy is 6 inches from base to tip, Sergeant
>>
new player here, what's the best way to get the rupies for the private matches? 2000 rupies sounds too good to waste.
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>>174535962
>win 3 as forest
>win 4 as forest
>win 1 as sword
>easily win because I'm not bad
>open pack and get a shitty gold that I vialed
>close the game
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>>174536618
Go on discord and ask for the malasyan hacker to buy you stuff.
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>>174536618
Host a match, post the room ID here. Someone will join, let them kill you fast. Once you are done, post the room ID here again. No need to rehost everytime.
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>>174536618
You can whore yourself out here and post room IDs to get people to play with you

If you can't find anyone or prefer to do so, you can use a mobile emulator and reroll 20 throwaway accounts to play with yourself until you get all the free shit
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>>174536618
Create a match and post ID here i have time so let just play some matches
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This meta is utter dogshit, what the fuck is this game even about anymore?
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>>174536618
post match id in reddit thread that is stickied.
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>>174536349
Want to know the difference, since you're so blind?

Clarke
3pp 2/3
Sybil
5pp 4/5
Albert
5pp 3/5
Reaper
2pp 1/1
Cerb
5pp 3/3
Yurius
2pp 1/3
Catacomb
3pp 1/1
Israfil
9pp 8/8

noticing a trend?
Realize what's different now?
Soulsquasher is 2pp 2/2.

Not a 2pp 1/2, not a 2pp 1/1, not a 2pp 1/3, not a 3pp 2/2, a 2pp 2/2. She is a strong statline with a strong effect that gets +2/+2.
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>>174536876
>>174536882
>>174536978
alright thanks.

ID: 13759

will just spam pass until you kill me.
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>>174537170
And, again, whatever you said is absolutely irrelevant as you've already been told that reduced evolve stat lines only get put on followers with effects that trigger ON evolve.
>>
Why couldn't they have gotten Minaba to redraw all the SF5 leaders before putting them in the game? Vega, Ryu, Chun-Li and Karin are already done, was it really that hard to get the guy they already have on their payroll to do 3 more redesigns so the SF leaders wouldn't look like liquid shit?
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>>174537304
Reminder that it must be 20 different people, so >>174536978
>let's just play SOME matches
this will work only once.
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>>174537170
>Clarke
>Sybil
>Yurius
Those cards aren't understatted, you fucking retard.
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>>174537304
thanks swordbro
1/20, 19 to go.
ID still 13759
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>>174537434
Really i did not know sorry i am kinda of new to this game
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>catacomb becomes "choose ONE follower to gain last words"
>eachtar boost lowered to +1/+0
There, I fixed it.
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>>174537316
She needs to get hit somewhere, just like zell and levi. It can be in cost, stats, effect, or evolve stats. It doesn't matter to me.

>>174537539
They all have at least one stat below their cost. squasher does not.
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Need a concede guys
47428
ty
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Forte smells like shit
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>>174537737
>They all have at least one stat below their cost. squasher does not.
That's not how stats work, dumbass.
3/2 and 2/3 are on curve stats for 3 drops.
2/2 and 1/3 are on curve stats for 2 drops
4/5 is on curve stats for a 5 drop.
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Newfag here. How do I netdick?
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>>174537619
thanks skel
2/20
ID: 34419
I'll spam pass.
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>>174537690
Ty katana wielding lesbian maid knight
trying to win with a kys deck is pretty hard
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>>174526746
Most of Dragon's healing is Neutral though.
>>
literally every single one of my 15+ take two matches today was against dragon or shadow
holy fucking shit
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>>174538046
http://game-ai.jp/
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>>174538090
shit meant this one: >>174537787
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>>174538046
read
the
op
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>>174538024
That is exactly how stats work.

If she was a 1/3 she would be more balanced than she is as a 2/2, since she would evolve into a 3/5 instead of a 4/4, giving less value by being unable to kill followers with 4 health when evolved.

Stat allocation matters just as much as the average stats for that pp.
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Rare seraph sighting. I wish she was still viable, I miss glory be.
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>>174538091
Yeah it's great how half the neutrals each expansion are designed to only be playable in Dragon.
>>
>/svg/ actually complaining about situational card like soulsquasher

Really?
>>
>decide to play arena until i'm below 150 then buy a ToG pack
>taking forever since I start at 200ish and get 4 wins every run
>finally at 150
>5 wins
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>>174538050
my brazilian friend, I think you already played against me before.
still 2/20
ID: 34419
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>>174537170
>people are now complaining about cummiesquasher too
this is too good
reminds me when everyone said liza needed to be a 2/1
and when people complained every single day for 3 whole months about cynthia getting 2 fairies on evo
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>>174538510
Is this bait cause I'm falling for it.
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>>174538401
>Free win with no interaction except Odin
I don't, although it still was better than big magic no touch man.
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>T2
>play flute on turn 3 because I got no other plays
>later turns my khaiza and grimnir into (relatively) useless fucking dragons
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>>174538510
>lol it's only good in the situation that your opponent wants to use their evolutions
nice try shadowtard

>>174538571
I couldn't decide either. Was pretty well done.
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>>174538532
Yeah i had this feeling too, weird
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>>174538510
>evolving a follower is situational
Shadowniggers literally won't stop defending their tier 0 cancer. I am not even the one autist complaining about the card, and I don't even think it needs to be nerfed when stuff like Catacomb and Eachtar are a thing, but you shitters really need to stop.
>>
>>174538510
It's a shadow card. Next expac we'll be bitching about cards from the new T1 decks with people saying this expac was more balanced
>>
>>174536685
>Unranked
>I'm not bad
>>
>>174538532
thanks vampy!
3/20
ID: 34419
>>
>>174538720
This. People are already backpedaling saying Dorothy was fair and balanced and roach had a lot of counters.
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>>174538720
Well if they powercreep the next expac, people will be right saying that kind of shit
>>
>came across a A3 (I'm mid A1) dragon running humpty dumpty, call of cocytus and zero ramp
What the fuck
>>
>>174538815
Roach fell apart against anything that ran a lot of wards. Dorothy was pure bs though.
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>>174538815
>People are already backpedaling saying Dorothy was fair and balanced
Show me a post saying that about pre-nerf Daria.
>roach had a lot of counters.
That's just a blatant lie. Roach had 2 counters: CSword and Daria.
>>
Holy shit I hate Orthus
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>>174539042
Sun Haven ""countered"" roach and shadow could give it some problems with Death's Breath and stuff. Even dirt had a fighting chance against roach and no one was really playing the homecoming variant on ladder
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>>174538998
>>174539042
I have not once seen anyone defend Diarrheacraft.
Fuck, even the players admitted it was pure bs.
This is just classic /svg/ shitposting.
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>want to try some new deck
>remember that I'll just get stomped by shadow or get board cleared 5 turns in a row by dragon
>decide not to

They should really fix this fucking game and fast.
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>>174538815
>Dorothy was fair and balanced and roach had a lot of counters
daria literally bricked every game and all you needed to do was throw a front guard into your deck and you would win 60% verses roach
after the nerf there was nothing you could do to stop albert cancer unless you perfect curved going first as blood aggro
pre nerf bahamut was shit tons better than post nerf
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>>174538815

>People are already saying Dorothy was fair and balanced.
Retarded people, maybe. Rune being dead is a great outcome from this meta.
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I finally understand why they gave me four animated forte now, the game wanted me to realize face dragon was actually pretty insane and probably also was back then in rob.
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>>174539370

Just play it on unranked. I don't see shadow and dragon that often. Admittedly I did bring a Lich Ledger deck into unranked to take it for a spin today. I did concede as soon as I checkmated them.
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>>174539593
face dragon was dragons best deck until the game devs printed "do everything" cards for them
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>>174538815
>>174539375
>Dorothy was fair and balanced
>Games decided on rng coin flips with no skill interaction are "fair"
Anyone who uses this logic is literally fucking retarded.
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>>174539593

Face dragon has always performed well, like top tier well, you'd be worried about losing to them on ladder as soon as you figured out that they were face dragon. It's just people refuse to accept that face is the place and complain about dragon because they can't get their timmy off.
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>>174538510
>situational
4 necro, easy, 2pp, always available when evolves come into play, evolve, always used.
Literally all you have to do is not play her on turn 2 or 3. The enemy WILL evolve and unless they decide to trade their evolve into something that will kill theirs, evolved follower will be on the field.

Can you draw her when the enemy has no evolves left? Yeah, just like you can draw levi when you have no evolves left. Does that make levi balanced? no.
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>>174538795
thanks first and second luna and arisa!
6/20
ID: 34419
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>>174539281
Those are wrong. Nep, Dirt and Sun had negative winrates against Roach. They were only good in theory. It doesn't matter that they have a lot of wards if they can't win fast enough.
CSword was good because it had ways to rush Roach down, Albert as reliable closer and sticky, fat Wards.
Daria worked because their early/mid game tempo was hard for Roach to deal with, though the match up wasn't too much on Daria's favor, just slightly.
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>>174539765
>>174539472
Yurius is the true cancer desu
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>>174539593
It was better in rob. I was trying to make a midrange version work but shadow shits out boards you cant clear despite previously having board control and ramp heals/boardclears too much for a vanilla aggro deck to punch through.

Though admittedly I haven't tried a hyper aggro version with phoenix riders alongside forte or that weird urd/ramp thing on game ai.
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>>174539819
Really? I seem to remember sun haven sitting around 50% in that match
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>>174539593
What's the new facedragon look like? A single big ward usually stops me in my tracks whenever I play it
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>>174539606
B-but muh ranked points.
I'm already in masters so losing points doesn't matter, it's just tedious losing before really doing anything.
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>shadow
>dragon
>dragon
>dragon
>shadow
>shadow
>shadow
>dragon
>shadow
>dragon
What did they mean by this?
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Anyone else only log on for dailies now?
I hope they fix this game soon, nothing's fun about going up against the same 2 decks that you can beat unless you play them.
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Why is there no Fairy Princess emblem? This is bullshit. Get to work Cygames.
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>try to play Nep again with ledger
>can barely ever get 6 shadows for turn 6 death's breath

Catacomb is literally holding this class together.
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Look at this meme, it has grown so much after 10 losses.
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>d-dragon is totally not imbalanced with his instant 10pp while you fuck around at 5 or 6 as he starts to drop lightning blasts, enhanced grimnirs, bahamuts and so on on you
>j-just look at the statistics bro they're totally not OP :^)
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>>174539801
thanks old wizard dude!
7/20
ID: 34419
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>>174540004
>A single big ward usually stops me in my tracks whenever I play it
That's exactly Face Dragon's main counter and why it only starts popping up when the meta starts moving towards ward-less tempo/midrange decks, like in DE and post-nerf RoB metas.
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>>174540127
Did you even draw Fairy Princess from packs?
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>>174538558
SAGE AND CYNTHIA ARE BROKEN!!!111!
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>>174540339
Yeah. Drew her last week.
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>>174540091
>>174540007
>>174540246
I've just accepted the game at this point.
I'm playing vengeance snek combo, so games pretty much come down to a coin flip as to whether or not I get my sneks (or if shadow gets bs fucking draws).
At least this way I get to have somewhat of a say on whether I win or lose.
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daily reminder for shadowfags and dragoncucks to off themselves
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acceptable pull?
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>>174540091
Have you considered not doing dailies and not whining about the game? Dumbass
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>>174540004
A single big ward can still be dealt with via siegfried but if you see a fucking death's breath just slam that concede button, you're not getting through that in time.
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>>174540502
Try to figure out what kind of deck you want to play before you reroll
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>>174540502
not great, non of the legends are staples and the golds are poor too
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>>174540502
It's shit, try again.
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>>174535718
I'm japan salary man so i get free pass
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>>174540091
I don't what you're talking about. SV is still very enjoyable.
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>>174540502
Legos not particularly good. Golds are mostly bad. Reroll.
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I really don't know what to do against dragons as a shadow.

It's unwinnable. I CANNOT kill them before they reach 10pp, impossible. And then it's game over anyway
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51609
Need concede
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>>174540820
Thanks fellow Israfil emblemer
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>>174540802
Have you tried drawing your phantom howls?
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>>174540168
>look at my shadow count on turn 6 to see if I have enough for eachtar
>above 15 and counting
I don't think shadow will every be this good ever again. The game devs still seem to think path to purgatory is the be all end all cancer card so they go out of their way to make sure they don't give shadow any good generators and print cards like elf queen for forest. Now we are on the radar and will continue to get runecraft treatment just like in DE. Meanwhile sword will still get better bane followers and more and more storm every game because "it's the class mechanic."
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Okay, spill it out, how much have you whaled?
$145 here
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>>174540802
>can't win a favorable match up with a tier 0 deck
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>>174540802
Play nep then
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The more I play this meta the more my Sword goes aggro to win against Dragon and (hopefully) barely win against Shadow.
I'm contemplating quitting SV and sinking my free time into Elonaplus again
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>>174541149
Like $30 or something.
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>>174541150
Exactly. I can't.
Their early warding with grimnir + rahab as well as +pp generation and healing is too strong. Then they are at 10pp while you are at 6

lightning blast spam and bahamuts = game over
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>>174541190
Just be like me and do dailies, then fuck off. Literally nothing to do once you get master and sleeves/icon.
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>>174541149
cerb reminds me of that yandere clock
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>>174538510
The retard is complaining about her getting full stats on evolve.

She's still a retarded card that completely swings the game at times and punishes defensive evolves.
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>>174541149
Like $4 for the 600 crystal deal from New Year's
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>>174540260
Thanks arisa!
8/10
ID: 34419
I pass
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>>174541149
300
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>turn 6 have 4 5/5s on board
xd lol
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>>174530847
Heavens no. It's an honest to god dyed in the wool japanese rates tier gacha shitfest in twenty fucking seventeen. If you want to get fucked in the ass that bad just go to the playground in just a virgin killer top
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>>174541568
>Still lose
xd lol
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>>174541685
Sure anon! Ah, truly Bloodcraft got the short end of the stick again.
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>>174530761
Just earthshock him for 10 hp again. Heal from that dragoncuck
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>>174541484
Why didn't you attack me? Are you trying to complete the win 20 room matches vs unique opponents without concede?
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What is the currently agreed upon mid shadow?
I see some high levels not using phantom howl but using lurching corpse and one urd, others use phantom howls and so on

Which one do you use?
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>>174541791
I asked what the best way to do the 20 private matches and was told to just pass and let the opponent kill me.
Is that wrong?
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Place your bets, /svg/.
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IM CUMMIN IM CUMMIN IM CUMMIN

4U U U U
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>>174531846
Could people use his services become legally liable for making purchases using a stolen CC?

I would love to see the faggots on discord go to jail
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>>174541770
>>174541568
>unironically complaining about meme Snek.
>>
I'm in a crazy streak with my packs recently. I literally always unpack 1 legendary. I just got Eachtar with the daily deal. I got 2 packs today with the dailies, I got Israfil and the 3rd Anomaly.

I use the 81726354 technique.
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>>174542016
charge your phone
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>>174541969
Ah right I remember incorrectly. It has been a while.
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>>174542016
If he kills your Aiela like a retard you win, if not you lose.
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>>174542016
Second against Shadow, might as well concede.
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>>174542049
I already got all cards in the game 3 times except Pluto and Beast Dominator through. Don't need any more desu.
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>>174542083
Weird, I use the same autistic technique and haven't gotten shit lately.
Thinking of going back to my ol' 84517362 technique...
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Did someone say Shadow Dragon?
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>>174542050
>unironically complaining about t6 board flooded by 5/5s
haha
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>>174535316
>Couldn't fuck with Tranvy
>Resorts to going after literally the least watched SV streamer
How cucked are you?
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Why
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cygames can't nerf catacomb it is the only thing keeping shadow alive
we need them to nerf thane instead or goblin princess
this is fair because only 55% win rate mid sword had that every expansion even 52 right now
we need to let cygames know
it is only a win boar card and loses if you don't hvae more to win with
please I can't go back to being a meme deck I don't want to be timmy I want to be spike
please
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>>174541568
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>>174542106
>>174542187
Correct. Would have won but nigger managed to draw three lolisquishers and kill muh Forte.
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>>174542250
Just Bahamut bro :^)
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>>174542345
is he
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>>174526981
I tried. Erinyes was too hard to use

>>174527526
Pheonix roost. Even demonic simalacrum is more usable in cforest/seacraft. Triple ramped double roost otk's are such a pipe dream

>>174527604
Discard and daria are going to get ways to add cards into or back into their deck so they don't deck out.
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>>174541568
>turn 6
just lightning blast and then swing face with bahamut
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>>174542250
>unironically complaining about t6 combo that requires 3 cards in perfect succession with no board interaction for 2/5 turns.
haha
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>>174541568
>turn 6 (SIX)
When are people going to learn?
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>>174542345
Cygames rused our asses with Zeus. Grimnir is real Neutral 10PP of this expansion.
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>>174542521
so
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>>174542703
blue dabadee dabada
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>>174542703
wait who is that bitch then?
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>>174542703
BROKEN HOLY SHIT
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>>174542558
>Erinyes was too hard to use
You got it wrong man. You're the one who's supposed to be used.
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Actually, upon closer inspection I'm missing Rose Queen, Pluto, Zimitra, Beast Dominator and Fairy Princess for the 100% 3x sets. But I only have 4000~ vials left. What should I get out of those.
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>>174542645
Before ToG I actually though that Zeus is going to get some sort of chain lightning effect fanfare dealing damage multiple times in a diminishing manner. Guess Grimnir really got that in a somewhat different way.
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How do you decide which expansion to buy when there's 3 now?
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>>174542886
beast dom for feet
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>>174542997
But is she good in any deck even? I already have 2. I can't think of any dick that would need 3.
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>>174542886
how much money did you spend on the game?
did you farm T2 or something?
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>>174542886
Rose queen is at least fun to pull off.
And that ass is sublime.
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>>174543072
>how much money did you spend on the game?
500 bucks or more I dunno.

>did you farm T2 or something?
No. Takes too long and I hate the RNG.
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>>174541568
>T4 pass
>T5 pass
>T6 do nothing
>Die to aggro shadow
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>>174543287
>>Die to aggro shadow
Much like every deck in the game that's not candle haven right now. What is your point?
>t4 pass
>dark general
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YOU COULD'VE GIVEN ME A SOUL DEALER
WHY GIVE ME THIS
FUCK
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>>174543202
But does the deck need 3? I already have 2 of all listed legos.
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>>174531236
>>174527801
Seacraft is dead. They have:

3pp generate 1 orca
5pp conditional generate 1 orca
7pp generate 1 orca and evolve evolve all orcas

As a consequence of having overflow as a class mechanic and discard as their class flavor for their draw engine it's basically fucked. Already basically every other tempo list outperforms orcas. Any b-b-but you can ramp though! is obsoleted by having better targets to reduce and cards play. In general others have just power creeped the absolute shitfuck out of the cards in a seacraft list.Like officer-commander sword decks, you're extremely vulnerable to anyone who's ever seen neptune once and know to just trade into your board to cripple you because you're basically dead if you can't curve neptune to regain all your tempo loss. It's extremely vulnerable to board clear because you don't have the pp and draw at that point of the game to remount an effective board against anything that isn't trash. The deck is extremely ep greedy which is very, very bad. And as a focus in general it's too slow to kill leaving it ineffective against anything but garbage decks and brick chains.

I'm sorry but eachtar is literally a better neptune that doesn't cost ep and the entire midshadow skeleton is better made than anything seacraft has and will ever get as a result of its insistence on overflow, ramp, and discard on top of our tiny boards suffocating much needed wyrm spires/dragonsong flute and dracomancer's rites. Or even heaven forbid a control pendant list. I love my girls but they're dead as stone.
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>>174543212
>500 bucks or more I dunno
>takes too long
Quality mobile games customer here lads.
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>>174543518
If you have as many legos as you do, you can afford to meme it up. None of the ones you mentioned ever need 3x of.
At least Rose Queen sees play as a 1x or 2x
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>>174527889
>When they hit 10pp on turn 5 and start banishing, grimnir, and bahamut your shit
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Need a concede

23771
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My name is Lewd, it's short for... lewd!
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>>174543487
>people actually wanting to get a soul dealer

Oh, what a time to be alive.
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>>174543819
I've got 30k vials sitting there so I'll probably end up crafting 3 of them
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>>174543597
I mean, I played T2 whenever I got tickets but I didn't see the point to farming it that hard since I started in late RoB and needed content from DE as well. It was far more time efficient to just do that, specially since I wanted to get master rank fast and I did in less than a month.

>mobile
Never played this on my phone desu. I play Pokemon Go or Duel Links when I go outside.
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>>174543557
Seacraft, disco dragon support next expansion. I feel it.
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>>174542591
>with no board interaction for 2/5 turns
Doesn't matter if you can get OTK at T7. Also, you can switch to a more controlish style if you're running against Aggro thanks to BM.
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good?

last pull for today anyway
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>>174542886
Rose queen. You can still kind of use her. Pluto can kind of be used but she's eh. Zirnitra is obsolete. Beast dominator under performs and for the most part can be replaced with mastema. Fairy princess was basically deleted by fairy cage.
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>>174543819
soul dealer is such shit it makes me laugh
>enemy blooderp uses soul dealer
>almost kills himself
>I remove the dealer and kill him

wew thanks lad oh no the pressure
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>>174543212
I keep telling myself to farm T2 but whenever I have the gold I buy a pack thinking I will pull a lego/animated I want
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>arena
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>>174543894
That doesn't change the fact that SV is indeed designated as a mobile game.
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>>174543557
>dragon is the most well rounded class in the game
>still rowen posting
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>>174544136
Oh. I'm not sure I understand your point then, can you elaborate?
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Need a concede
ID 46668
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>>174543894
why rush to masters?
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>>174543946
Meh. Reroll.
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>play latest mid range shadow deck from top ranked player
>literally can't even bring dragons to under 10hp before they manage to reach 10pp and drop bahamuts + lightning blast

statistics my ass
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>no will to play
I didn't even get Soulsquasher yet..
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>>174544237
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>>174544363
Thanks
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>>174544412
Some anon told me bottom of the barrel master was meme tier so I rushed it as to farm all classes to lvl 100 with the ranked exp boost. Also to get it out of the way. Kinda worked too.
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>>174543901
They would be wasting cards on seacraft. There's nothing they can do to make it outperform tempo elf/shadow or even loosely compete.

Disco has huge issues stemming from the pace of the game and the common max turns of a game being massively spread up. So not only do you have the disco skeleton, disco fodder skeleton, but you also have to have the ramp skeleton jammed into too small of a deck that for the most part is either a worse storm dragon list or is entirely reliant on getting a nut draw into them running out of removal and ward before turn 10 bahamuts. Don't get me wrong, Pukkun has his moments but it's not enough and there's not really enough they can do to save the craft while still giving others cards. Not to mention there's huge issues stemming from only having 5 board slots and a 40 card deck. I've had to satan a couple times just to not deck myself out. Unless someone made a bootleg sv or you were playing printouts with your friends it's unlikely you'd ever see the true might of discard unchained from common sense
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>>174543946
It's pretty ick. reroll
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18953
Doing the 20 quest gonna spam pass
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>>174544510
crafted mine
best choice I could have made
I never liked the storm mummy because it cucked my shadows right before howl but the value you get from soulsquasher is definitely worth it
also shadows aren't an issue for now while prince is still 3pp
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>>174544202
Yeah, I'm sure you went 89/100 with your seacraft or discard list bro. Oh that's right, one has 34% wr and theo ther isn't even tracked it's so bad.
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>>174544867
Making a suicide Blood deck would make it go by faster. Just stick all the self damage cards without ward you have into a deck.
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>>174544926
I-I mean the emblem and sleeves..
>>
Why the fuck is the opponent allowed to see what you get from the tarnished grail?
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>>174544926
Stupid shadowbab, I think he was talking about the month reward not the actual card
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>>174544510

post more dragons
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>>174544607
>They would be wasting cards
Yeah but you can see that Cygames operate like this. They give a class some overpowered shit and then with another expansion they directly nerf it with shit or another craft cards.
>>
ToG is the worst shit ever.
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>>174545080
>i want an rng shitfest card to exacerbate the importance of the rng
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>>174545038
That's a great ideia so i just made one
43516 is the new room
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>>174545084
meow :3
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>>174545080
They can?
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>>174543557
>tfw i only want to play discard and seacraft but it will never be good.
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>>174545536
>DE is the worst shit ever.
>RoB is the worst shit ever.
See you tomorrow.
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>>174545602
Post your butt you slut.
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>>174545632
yes
I was wonder why people where playing so recklessly after it popped
turns out they knew I didn't have ashatoths so they didn't give a fuck and went face instead
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>>174542407
Shut up Danny.
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Sibyl is very cute!
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I can't believe people whine more about shadows which are easy to kill than about dragons

Unreal.
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>>174545570
Thanks fellow suicider
43516
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>>174545881
You can even click on the battle log to see what the grail gives if you miss the split-second where you see the 3 cards.
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>>174544510
Just play meme decks. I got like 9k points just unga bungaing with my ent deck while listening to podcasts and audiobooks.

>>174545483
Read the whole thing. They would have to pull a second mid shadow and even then it wont work unless they entirely walk away from overflow/give a better draw or cycle engine than discard/just ramp shit bro! stance they have with dragon. It's also very, very, very. very, very fucked by 5 board slots. Because that's what it is. a midrange deck that can't do anything right. It'd have a far more threatening and robust matchup if it could use flute, if they buffed wyrm spire to be cheaper, or even if they just expanded the board so there would be the faintest glimmer of hope that you could kill them before up to 6 bahamut/grimnir's deleting your board and your hand turn after turn but they wont.

>>174545693
Amazing how a company can become progressively worse huh?
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>>174545965
Aren't all girls in this game cute?
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Pepe is actually retarded in T2 holy shit
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board flood and burn is fair
healing and board clears are cancer
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Are there any good control blood decks?
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>>174544510
It's 12-30 games a day or less if you play something that can actually win. That's nothing. If you like the sleeves do everything you can. I've always regretted blowing off getting the liza sleeves when I started

>>174546180
No, you're obsolete.
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>>174546180
it could be a hard counter to shadow but it'd still get fucked by ramp dragon as usual
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>>174546180
There's no good blood decks, anon.
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>>174546180
Azazel OTK or Mary+Dealer.
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>>174546110
Uguu~ my kawaii kohai~ >:3

There's also matriarch. bloody mary and others
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87446

Someone please concede
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>>174546371
You talkin shit about Mary?
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>>174546371
>no spikes in the front
>those hips
Just put a paper bag on her and I would missionary fuck it.
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12599

Concede, please.
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>>174546552
(you)
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>>174546464
thanks
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>>174546293
I'm climbing pretty steadily with kys blood.
It'll only get better once shadow is nerfed.
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>>174546218
>It's 12-30 games a day
Christ, Anon. What part of ''no will to play'' is there not to understand? I play one game and get bored of this game. I'm not THAT masochistic.
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>>174546552
Thanks
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>>174527518
Discord are todays IRCfag of course it's the home of the purest form of cancer.
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Anyone tried Sun Satan against shadowcancers?
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>>174546371
Bloody Mary is hot tho.
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>>174546730
Any haven besides storm can shit on shadow.
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>>174546504
Yes. Stop dying on your turn you fuck

>>174546649
Just play a cancer deck and do a little more past your dailies. You lose ground you're not getting it back
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>>174546730
No but I'm trying a meme amulet only tarnished grail deck. Pretty fun.
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>>174546730
Eachtar trades 4-for-1 with your shitty ward wall.
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>>174546857
>Just play a cancer deck
I've tried, and I've failed.
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>>174546218
>its takes him 30 games to get 4 wins
you're fucking retarded
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>>174546180
You can build Azazel OTK as a control list with a t10 finisher. It's really fun if you like the CBlood play style since it's like playing forest and cblood at the same time.
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Meme tier list

- Tier 1
Dragon
Ramp speeds up your meme. Salamander protects you until you can meme. The class has a lot of meme cards and meme with high cost neutral because of ramp. Dragon is the perfect meme class.

Rune
Dshift let you meme like you can't with any other classes. Its reservoir of draw cards will surely help you find your favorite meme cards. The class has as much meme potential as Dragon and together they form the holy duo of meme couple.

- Tier 2
Haven
The class defensive power makes good base of meme. Winning is a bit harder but you are not push over either.

Shadow
It is not that shadow can't meme, it is just that even their less used cards are strong especially ToG. It is beginning to blur the line. Atomeme can be competitive on ranked. Can you imagine?

Sword
Sword got some real meme booster in ToG. It is quickly becoming the dark horse of meme. If things go on it may even challenge Dragon and Rune for the spot of tier 1.

- Tier 3
Forest
You may expect being the combo class of SV it must be the best meme class right? I don't know why but most of their combo cards are retardedly garbage. Actually most of their cards are complete garbage beyond meme recovery.

Blood
Meme Peddler is no longer a meme. A fall from grace.
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new expansion leaks
>forest
meme lego specificly designed to be useless
>sword
7 mana new otohime that summons novice troopers
>rune
memerite support
>dragon
fafnir5.0
>blood
ward lego heal 2 hp if vengeance is active
>shadow
7 mana do nothing lego
>haven
10 mana cannot be removed at the start of your turn summon 500 lightning blast dragons and put a seraph and 2 crimson sorcerys in your hand
>neutral 1
10 mana heal 30 hp at the end of your turn and deal 4 damage to all enemies when attacking
>neutral 2
9 mana remove a card that cannot be removed
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32365

Concede please
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Why are vial rewards so shitty
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>>174547360
>Haha meme guys lmaos amirite?
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>try to play tarnished grail
>roach
>roach
>roach
>roach
>roach

Why did these fucks climb down from trees all of a sudden?
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What was the biggest balance blunder this expansion?

Hard mode: Can't go with Grimnir.
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>>174547390
>7 mana new otohime that summons novice troopers
Pls no. I just want some support for officer/commander synergy.
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>>174547731
Right. The only thing I can enjoy is meme in this shitty meta.
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>>174548009
Catacomb. Wow that was a difficult question.
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>>174548009
Sword literally got two cards, and Lecia isn't going to be that good until we get more officer/commander synergies.
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>>174535937
what other 2pp while levi total have to use 3 pp
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>>174548303
>not eachtar
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>>174548009
Deepwood Anomaly
I get that they knew it was underpowered and shipped it anyway but jesus christ it's literally useless and a waste of a legendary spot
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>>174548668
Eachtar is nothing without Catacomb. Catacomb is the reason Shadow has so much shadows and a board on T7.
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why are people so eager to emote shadow in unranked

i just wanna do my fucking daily you nips
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Concede at 63183 please.
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>>174548971
Thanks gingerqt!
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>>174548009

The fact that they deliberately focused on only 3 crafts this expac. It's still not as bad as solely focusing on Rune, because that's the worst possible thing to do.
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85162
Concede please
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>mother
>father
>cum on
What did she mean by this?
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>>174549420
i take it back please bully this twitter account
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Left or Right?
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>>174549661
left desu
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>>174549661
Middle
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>>174549626
she meant kys dubcuck
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>Shadow daily
>decide to not do aggro, try out neptits
>every match I get to bully other Lunas
>even get to bully Rowen since ghost hound sexton is a card
>some aren't even running lightning blasts
>everyone expects you to be aggro shadow
>they keep shit hands and go into late game
Aegis Test of strength is a bit annoying, but nep is actually really good right now. Make sure to put in a third mord though.
>>
Any cool decks with the qt fire and ice twins?
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>>174549460
Thank you Urias!
>>
how do we make zirnitra good? An amulet/follower that does something everytime a dragon is summoned?
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>>174549661
I've had more success with Dragon, but both are great.
Flip a coin.
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>>174547936
Don't do it anon. I tried so hard to make Grail work but the "Do 2 damage" is fucking useless against shadow since by that time they'll be playing death's breaths and against dragon 2 damage is a joke.
Even if it pops, the 3 cards you're given don't do anything to have you win.
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>>174549420
oh shit, we actually have lelouch in our threads?
I thought you guys were just shitposting or something
pretty cool how you keep running into the same dudes here and never know it you know?
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>six games in a row of Aggro Blood so far for my dailies
>go second in each and every single one of them
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ewww
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Continue to work on the 20 private games
8/20
ID: 17839
I'll spam pass.
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>>174549626
>パパ、ママ、ルナを守ってね

What did she mean by this?
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>>174546371
thank god mary is mine and only mine
>>
Dragonbros, do you keep Sibyl/Fervor or mulligan them?
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>>174550336
the mega meme herself
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>>174550048
D-Shift. That's it.
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>>174550281
>pretty cool
Oh fuck. Just the expected from some dork
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>>174550369
Thanks vampy!
9/20
ID: 17839
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>>174550281
You guys are all kinda the same autistic basket case to me anyway.
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>>174550834
Kinda true to an extent. There's an autist jannie who monitors these threads 24/7 and he also posts on discord.
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So has anyone had any success using Death's Ledger? I pulled 3 of them and tried out this deck for a few games. I even took out one Mordecai for another Foul Tempest and I kept getting run over by every midrange and aggro deck. The only time I won was against a DS that bricked while I had crazy good draws. Seems way better to just play a regular Nephthys deck so you can actually get rid of followers turns 2-5.

http://xn--shadowverse-e63t796khk9bk11e.com/%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD/%E3%80%90%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%89%E3%82%A6%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%80%9171%E6%88%A649%E5%8B%9D%E3%80%8C3478%E3%83%AA%E3%83%83%E3%83%81%E7%A2%BA%E5%AE%9A%E3%83%8D%E3%83%95%E3%83%86%E3%82%A3/
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Kill me.
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>play rank mode
>check their rank points
>looks similar to mine rank
>wait a second
>master 47k

Oh so he grind 47k in one month? Is there reward this month?
>>
>>174550531
In Dragon mirrors, sure. If Storm Haven didn't seem to be back on the rise then you could keep it against the hag as well.
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Need a concede plz

44098
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fucking
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>>174551226
There's no reward. Some people just like playing the game a lot. This is also proof that there's no difference in matchmaking between low and high masters as some people think.
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>>174551623
just ______ bro
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>>174551623
Literally just themis
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>>174551728
>>174551746

>Muh Themsis
He's two damage off lethal next turn.
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>>174551471
Thanks, Urias.
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>>174551728
>>174551746
>Themis in storm haven
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>Dragon gets more heals, draw, storm, and ramp
>More Neutral cards that synergize too well with that one class

Why was all of this needed? It's made the game less fun than Hearthstone, and I didn't think that was even possible.
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>>174551968
>not running themis in storm haven
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>>174551623
Just evolve the bird and Dark Jeanne bro.
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>>174552151

Haven can just run D'arc now. She actually promote's Storm Haven's battle plan.
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>>174552002
Where are the weebs? i need a translate
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>>174550531
Depends on the match up. Against more agressive decks, it might be suicide if you don't draw into some early game removal or wards.
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>>174552108
As much retarded Ramp Dragon can be, it at least still isn't pure and unaltered RNG shitfest.
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95444

Can someone concede please?
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What kind of deck runs Daria AND Earth Rite?
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>>174552151
Themis was never necessary or particularly good in Storm Haven and is completely worthless now that Jeanne is a thing.
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>>174552328
>>
>>174552509

TY Forte
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>>174552108
>draw
???
Don't tell me you think the egg is good.
>>
>>174552527
Pascale Daria meme.
>>
Is grimnir fucking nerfed yet? I lose to it more than the rest of the class it's played in combined.
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>>174552913
>the class
So, every class? I've even seen Daria with Grimnir.
>>
>>174552748
Alone, no. In conjunction with everything else they got, yeah. They have something to drop with 1 extra mana that heals and draws into more of their bullshit.
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>>174552865
Actually it had Melvie (?) instead of Pascale.

Really bad move using her against dragon, Isaboobs.
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Not today shadow.
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Leave Luna to me.
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>>174553127
He probably just didn't draw into Pascale. The point of Daria Dirt is to flood the board then buff everything with Pascale.
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>mfw I had to fight a high budget dragon deck in D0
I wonder how much this guy paid to build it.
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>>174553171
>>174553174
Doing God's work
>>
ungabunga
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>>174553307
He is probably just a sandbagger.
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>>174553294
I won by deckout, so if he had any Pascale, Daria ate them.
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>>174553401
t. Luna
>>
Real talk time: Is it ethical and to the benefit of the game to rope all aggro and mid shadow players in ranked? Serious answers only, preferably with reasoning.
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Why would a midrange sword deck run one mentors teaching?

it's in this deck I've been running from gameai. I didn't see the point of it but I kept my mind open and believed the nip knew best, the deck works and feels good. But I haven't found much of a use for the single mentors teaching.

why would it be there?
why just one?
the card draw is nice and 1 extra face damage early isn't bad but is that it?
>>
>>174553580
Seriously speaking, no, it won't have any effect.
I do it anyways in unranked though.
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>>174553539
>prepped

Only cucks speaks like that.
>>
>>174553307
That's fucking disgusting, I'm sorry
>>
>>174553589
if you can read nip he says it's for creating favorable trades and the card draw is nice for sword
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>>174553589
In case you need to hold on or didn't draw Albert until T10, buffing+evolve=12 damage for dat reach. But more than anything to use a 2/2 to kill Grimnir and draw a card
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>>174553589
It cycles your cards for 1 damage. You ever been 1 off lethal? Now you know why.
>>
>>174553589

Does it run only x3 copies of everything? He might've been running his math based on a 39 card deck and mentor's teaching is the only reasonable way to count it as 39 since any other cantrip is going to be too expensive to just fit into curve.
>>
>>174553589
Combo with Albert at 10pp.
Combo with Tsubaki to kill 4 attack followers.
"Angelic Snipe" + Insight that needs a follower.

It's most of the time just a filler card though.
>>
Need concede please
24320
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>>174553539
Oh boy. That man is gonna see some shit.
>>
>>174553686
I actually considered that. The problem is that unranked is basically just a playground, and I can't fault people for playing it in unranked just to do a quest. But a broken deck has no place in a competitive format. My reasoning is if I rope every aggro or mid shadow player in ranked, I'm doing two things:

1. Sending the message that this isn't tolerated. If the devs won't make the deck less viable, I will. You're sitting through this long match or conceding.

2. Keeping oppressive decks out of ranked for other people. If everyone who encountered aggro or mid shadow roped them, everyone else could play freely.
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>>174553701

He's making bank playing this game.

You are just an undesirable weeb.
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>>174553539
Eagerly awaiting his reaction to this garbage meta.
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>t6: 4/4 and 13/13 rush for 6pp
>t7: realize you're fucked
Santa is not dead.
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My name is not important. What's important is what I'm going to do.
I just fuckin' hate this meta, and the human worms feeding on its carcass. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred, and I always wanted to rope violently. This is the time for vengeance, and no shadowfag is worth saving. And I will put in the dumpster as many as I can. It's time for me to boardwipe, and it's time for me to banish.
My genocide crusade begins here.
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>>174553539
he'll literally only play take 2 anyway. this man has a fasctination for the rng mode
>>
>>174553958
At least I'm not a cuck :^)
>>
>>174547027
He needs 120 wins for the month for the squasher sleeves in 10 days and if he's this bum rustled he's not going to have a 50%wr

>>174548248
Just expand the board then. That's the only thing holding Ironwrought-light back from being a pain train
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>>174552617
I thought it was just a joke
>>
>>174554051
Dude, decks generally run a wincon.
>>
>>174553751
It was fucking horrible.
>>
Getting to Zell Baha two turns in a row is pure fucking bliss.
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>>174554148

He's playing a grinder deck to make matches take forever.
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>>174554051
I've played a few of these on my climb so far. I don't believe you're positive against shadow
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>>174553983
How the fuck did he play saha for 6pp?
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>>174554051
Put in 2 aegis and consider judge/dark jeanne since you're gonna be hurting once you're out of ep. Since you run candelabra you can also run heretical inquiry
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>>174553539
Hopefully he'll become disgusted by this meta and never stream again.
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>Try Azazel deck
>7 game winstreak
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>>174554309
Dragon emmisary
>>
>play against shadow
>I'm at 9 health
>he has no evolves
>plays Cerb
>has 4 shadows after I kill it
>next turn plays howl first instead of Mimi
>results in 4 ghosts instead of 5
>1 damage away from killing me
>win

Fucking bandwagoners deserve it.
>>
Maybe after a particularly bad day at work I'll make a dshift PtP deck, get all three d-shifts to <11, play a single PtP (having done 2 damage at some point), and rope the all three turns.
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Left?
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>>174553784
>>174553794
>>174553806
well, simple enough I guess. I have used it to trade a turn 2 follower into grimnir before and I suppose it's better to draw than a 5+ early turns.

>>174553818
It runs a couple x2s but mostly 3s. Could be that too, for the reason above.

>>174553861
Never used it with tsubaki but I suppose that gives it something more than just card draw mid-late game.
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>>174553580
No, bad sportsmanship is degenerate

Roping does nothing because you're both just alt-tabbed during it
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>>174553929
The problem is that those two things aren't ever happening unless thousands of people start doing it. The devs won't care about a single faggot in a sea of players roping every Shadow player and the players won't stop playing the deck because of a single asshole.

Thing is, Cygames is following their mentality of "letting the meta settle", what isn't always a bad thing. Even if Daria and Roach were dumb decks in RoB, multiple decks rose and fell before the nerfs, looking to counter them, making the meta not so oppressive. You saw too much Rune because of the bandwagoners, but every class was viable in some way. Even Dragon came back from the memes to feed on Daria.
However, those things were only possible because Daria and Roach weren't even close to being as oppressive as Midrange Shadow. If Ramp Dragon was the best deck, we'd have much more variance, since Dragon actually has counters, like Daria had. Midshadow, on the other hand, does not, and waiting for the meta to settle to truly see if a nerf to Shadow will be necessary is stupid, since at this point it's already obvious.
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>>174554464
Post dick.
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>>174553539
Fuck off you cancerous piece of shit
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>>174554464
I always save an Aerin in hand against blood. You can't pull off the Azazel combo without telegraphing it a mile away.
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>>174554473
>run emissary in deck filled with fatties
>actually pull off 6pp saha

Okay, he deserved Satan rape.

>>174554571
right, nigga
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>>174554438
>>174553963
>>174553927
He won't understand the meta. He hasn't for most of RoB because he just plays once every a few weeks.
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>>174554779
Forest is for faggots anyways
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>>174554847
He's going to understand after he only queues into two classes. Unless he just arenaboars again.
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>>174554923
How can you hate the cutest class? All the other classes are filled with impure harlots.
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>>174553580
No, it's fine. Considering doing it to them and Dragon players in the near future.
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>they changed gabriel and jeanne's voice in the dub when they redid some cards
>didn't even notice because no one even plays them anymore
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>>174553929
All you do is come across as a pathetic autist to your opponent who just like you, is alt-tabbed during it.

The meta was fucked in RoB and it's dead now. Even after you take out the two worst offenders there's just too many oppressive decks in existence by this point for a jihad to matter

>>174554659
it was pretty cool when people found the robin hood decks just before the nerf.
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>>174553539
Get banned, shill.
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>>174554847
>>174555049
leddit please leave.
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>>174555075
Dark General
Fervid Soldier
Gabriel
Veteran lancer
Curate
Tsubaki
Hare of Illusions
Wyvern Cavalier
Jeanne
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>>174555086
It's not my concern what my opponent thinks of me. All that matters is this: will my action benefit the meta?

>>174554659
I'm not claiming I alone will make huge changes. But I think taking action like this can help when it matters. Making it clear to the player you're roping, preferably with an explanation in your name like "NoShadowAllowed", makes it very clear: I'm doing this to you because of your choice in deck. It's nothing personal. If you stop playing the broken deck, this will stop happening. If the deck can't be nerfed in viability, it's going to be nerfed in time it takes to play a game. I'd like it if other people joined me, but my only concern is if I will improve the game.
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>>#########
*this space is empty because he mashed enter*
>first sentence
*this space is empty because he mashed enter*
>second sentence
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>>174554779
forest beating any kind of slow blood deck is a given. the forest player has to throw the match by going all in and having everything die to a rev to actually lose.
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So this FUCKING guy is actually the english VA of Rowen. He pretty much resembles him already minus the hairdo
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>>174553580
There is no benefit to anyone, not even yourself. It will take you much longer to finish your dailies if you roped literally every shadow player, and you will feel especially miserable if you lost and think you could've concede and queue up another game right away. It stings more on your end because, YOU made the decision rope.
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>>174555482
No, it wont
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>>174555801
where did you find this?
what do the female voice actors look like?
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>>174555801
Why would anyone listen to english Rowen when we have Sugi-kun.
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>>174555929
Arisa, eris, and erika jp va's are on shadowverse channel
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>D-Shift
>3 Lous and card draw for 7 turns
>uh oh
>Flame and Glass
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>>174554779
>You can't pull off the Azazel combo without telegraphing it a mile away.
You can just drop the flowerbed on the same turn as azazel + laura on turn 9. Or just razory claw on turn 10.
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>>174556075
If you're not setting up snakes, I know you're setting up Azazel. It's really one or the other.
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>>174555981
Because kikegames wont let me mix and match

>>174555482
What's the autist approved deck lists then?
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>>174555929
>what do the female voice actors look like?
>actually wanting to see what the female english VAs look like
>not knowing that they're most likely your typical American plain janes
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Why are Dragon and Shadowcucks such fags?
>Playing norms for dailies, 2 wins with Forest
>3x Drag, 4x Shadow
>Full, competitive decklists in fucking normals
>Everytime I (inevitably) lose spam "h-h-hear the dragon's roar" and "a-a-aidsventure"
I mean take this shit to rank and I won't care about bm, but in norms where people have to play shit for dailies? Stop being such faggots.
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>>174556171
On that note, sneks actually fuck forest up even worse than sword.
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>>174556198
They're doing dailies too
Retards like >>174555482 rope which does nothing but turn them into toxic faggots that bm and rope too

Unless you have a time machine to save hitler or are able to halocaust the dregs of society then accept that it's here to stay
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>>174556048
We know faggotry
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>>174556198

I don't get it either. It's not like they did anything amazing or cool. They played a really good card(s) at the right time, and then it won them the game.
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>>174556352
This one's true. No one runs homecoming so it's either you can roach a win or not.
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If you were the shadow player that had all 3 cerbs in the first 11 cards that I just played against I wish you were dead to be honest.
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>>174556460
People are constantly obnoxious cunts to them so they end up hunkering down into the haha eat shit u salty faggot >:D mentality. A culture of good sportsmanship was the only way to avoid this
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>>174556176
Anything other than aggro and mid shadow. Mid shadow currently has a positive winrate against every single craft in the game. It's going to stop now.

>>174556370
I specifically said I don't rope in unranked because of dailies. Unranked is just for fun, do whatever you want. But if you're playing in ranked, you have other options. You don't have to play mid/aggro shadow.
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>>174556538
were they all precon cerbs
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What is the most cancerous Shadow list right now?
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I'm trying to make a tourney through challonge, is there some setting that let's me see isers registered through IP? I want to weed out alts.
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>>174556789
Good news! You're not the only retarded autist who ropes under the illusion that they do anything but spawn other shitters
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>>174556848
any shadow deck that isn't neph
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concede pls

46978
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what did he mean by this?
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>Haven concedes at the second turn
Why? It was because that fag didn't got a perfect hand?
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>>174557048
I don't know. What did you mean?
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>>174557048
>I don't understand how to manipulate volume sliders
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>>174557048
stop posting yourself you piece of shit. stay on /a/
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>>174556832
No.
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>>174557048
He meant he was retarded for not muting and playing your own playlist like everyone not a retard.
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>>174557048
Stop referring yourself in the third person Ledouche.
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>>174556959
Unfortunately, the only problem with my strategy is not enough people are doing it. Imagine if people playing the game both in America and Japan decided that enough is enough, and roped everyone that played midshadow. The game would be patched in a week max. This is the only way to get through to Cygames. Like I said, it's nothing personal. If I had midshadow, I'd be playing it too. But it needs to be fixed, and Cygames needs to know that.
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>>174557048
How can you be this much of an attention whore? Holy fucking shit
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>>174557187
No, because you were playing Shadow, you faggot.
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Almost lost to a spicy meme.
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Who do you think they're going to nerf in shadow?
I've seen Eachtar, Lolisquasher, and Spookyking thrown around lately.
Personally I find Eachtar the culprit since he singlehandedly turns an aggro deck into midrange and nullifies boardwipes.
Either way this craft is fucking disgusting and needs to be nuked.
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>>174548009
The entirety of Take Two
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>>174557581
>>174557357
Is there something in the screenshot that shows it's him or is that some tripfag I haven't been paying attention to?
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>>174557036
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>>174557775
Swordshitters don't get to talk about balance.
That said the answer to everything is catacomb.
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>>174557775
They probably don't want to nerf a lego.
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>>174557940

thx forte
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Just did the elite/2 missions for the first time... Is Isabelle fucking cheating or something, fucking bitch ass has an answer to everything fucks sake.

also AI is fucking retarded as fuck lmao.
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>>174557952
>this is how mad people are that their craft doesn't have a card as bad ass as the dream meme.
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>already got almost all golds/legs from new exp
>can't stop buying packs
i think i got addicted to premium cards, help
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>>174558437
The AI is retarded as fuck

I managed to beat them all with Frog memes because the AI can't seem to understand how to deal with Ambush
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>>174557591
But I wasn't.
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>>174558570
I just did a shitty rush sword deck with the cards I had from the free packs and 20 games. If I played a taunt and they couldnt get through it without losing cards the AI wouldnt attack it even if it meant I had lethal next turn lmao.
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>>174557868
Lelouch is an autistic tripfag/avatarfag from /a/ who posts in this thread. He always posts that green haired whore. He always blogs on twitter about 4chan.
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If you want to rope shadow players and send a message to Cygames, name yourself something like "NerfShadow", "NoShadowAllowed", etc. If you want to do this in Japanese, here are some options.

ネクロ立ち往生して
Necro stalling

ネクロ許してない
Necro not allowed
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I vialed animated gawain for blood cuties and I have no regrets because I don't own a single albert and sword is garbage without him. Pepe is the only way I can do dailies with that shitty class anymore.
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>>174558985
i wonder who can be behind this post
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>>174559256
Dragon might be next. But I honestly don't know what the meta will look like with shadow nerfed. I don't have shadow or dragon decks.
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>>174558985
ルナとセックスしたい
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>>174559408
do you really think roping and renaming yourself will help?
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>>174559421
Delete this.
Luna is not for sexual.
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Does anyone have the site that has all the voice lines for both jp, korean and dub?
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>>174559649
that didn't stop the burglar
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>>174559529
I've been convinced that doing it alone will not. But doing it with a large number of people might. All I can do now is ask others for help. If you want to see change happen, you can help too. If a large number of people do it, it'll become well-known, and Cygames will have to take notice once it drectly starts affecting players. Complain on forums all you want, but they know as long as everyone keeps playing, it doesn't matter.
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>>174559732
http://svdb.ze.am/#
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>>174559732
Read the pastebin.
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>>174559816
thanks
>>174559829
forgot about that.
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Newfag here can someone post a good Dragoncraft list i want to invest in the deck but i need to see if i have the vials to create whati don't have first
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>disconecting after getting your board cleared for the 8th time
Really makes you think.
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>>174559965
>i need to see if i have the vials to create whati don't have first
You probably won't, the Dragon lists that see tons of play right now require a bajillion legendaries.
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>>174559775
they don't care man, just give up
i switched to shadow in this expansion and i don't mind playing it, even tho it's pretty boring playing mirrors or dragons all the time
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>>174558985
How would I write "Remove pedocraft"
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>>174560113
お兄ちゃんダメ!
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why is she so cute bros?
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>>174557532
>someone tries this against my shadow deck
>let my turns run the timer too
>they always fold first because I'm going to win and have nothing better to do with my time
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>>174560216
Centuries of selective breeding
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>>174560216
LITERALLY made for sex
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>Daria is a broken guys
>Albert is busted guys
>D-shift will never not be relavent guys
>Clarke is busyed guise
>Ancient Elf is broken guise
>Seraph and themis are busted guise

I love /svg/ my special friends x3
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>playing forest vs sword
>turn 1 nothing into turn 2 well of destiny
>I wonder what this deck is
>drops frog turn 3
>May-dungeon crawler-May
>drops a 2nd frog turn 4, evolves, destroys may
>pixie magic evolved frog back into hand next turn
>drops frog again on turn 5
>pixie magic again

He tried, I feel kinda bad for the bugger.
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>>174560053
I agree that they don't care, but that's because no one's doing anything about it. Again, imagine if this was a big deal. Let's say a thousand people are online, roping every shadow player they play (this number is way inflated). Cygames will have to step in. It would be like if their servers got DDOS'd and they just ignored it. People are being prevented from playing the game. That can't be ignored by any smart company. And even if you think Cygames are retarded game designers, they know how to run a company.

>>174560113
Lol. But no, if you're going to do this, you have to make it very clear that you're doing this to shadow players. Unless there's some meme name for shadow in Japan, you have to use ネクロ.
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>>174560352
MOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>174560028
So should i go try Shadow ?
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>>174560503
Shadow is much cheaper and arguably better.
If you want to netdeck your way to victory that's your best bet right now.
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>>174560246
That's fine. But remember, hardcore players who will put up with it aren't the target. We're targeting the casual market. The guy who picked up his phone to play a few matches with his shadow deck on the train, and can't, because everyone he plays against ropes him. That man, and everyone else likes him, starts complaining that they literally can't play the game because they get roped. Cygames has to step in.
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>>174560490
shut up faggot
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>>174557775
Eachtar and Catacomb both need nerfed if anything is to change. No bullshit "Piercing Rune now costs 2 xd" tier slap on the wrists for this.
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>>174560352
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>>174560586

Yeah, and make people who run the timer autolose. Because thats what would happen, and honestly, I want that to happen. People who take forever to decide in a game as easy as this one are obviously too stupid for even the simplest CCG's.
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>>174560564
I only like Rune,Shadow,Dragon and Sword so i can just vial all others classes anyway so i gonna look for a list for both and see how many vials i need, if you can show me a Shadow list i gonna love you forever anon
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>>174560759
They're not going to go through with that. The counterpoint is you can then claim that you play control, Dshift, or roach, and need the timer to make decisions. And no matter how much they reduce the timer needed to make moves, you can always keep roping.
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>>174560649
They're never gonna nerf a legendary because they don't want to give away that many vials.

Catacombs is the fall guy in this case unfortunately.

Even though ultimately Orthus is the true problem.
>hey guys, lets put all of Cerberus' effects into a single card for 1 pp less
>sounds balanced to me!
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6 packs opened...
6 FUCKING PACKS OPENED AND ALL I GOT IS THIS SHIT.
FUCK YOU CYFAGS
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>>174560367
you're crazy if you think that 100 people out of millions can do something about it
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>>174560759
>>174560929

Going with the timed chess system is what would work. Obviously there'd be a time extension depending on turns accumulated and actions performed i.e. several card draws.
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>>174560969
>randomized
>shit stats

Yeah, that sure is a bargin. I love it when my doggo kills a fucking 1/1 instead of sniping a Grimnir.
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>>174561132
>shit stats
>1/2 with a free coco+mimi on summon
>+full evo stats

Yeah ok.
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Anyone have a good Dirt list?
Everything on gamepress looks shit. z
Do they run pascale now for aggro or go big magic man control?
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>>174560053
Shadow mirrors are the worst in the game, look at the winrate of going first versus going second, a near 20% advantage for going first. Now compare that to 2nd most popular mirror, dragon, who only has about only a 1% difference.

If you want to earn wins, you have to play shadow, but so is everyone else, meaning a significant contribution to your chance of winning occurs at the coin flip at the start of every match. And it's not even just shadow mirrors that it does that to, its matchup with most other classes has a significant difference in chance to win whether going first vs second. Shadow is just a complete garbage class to play against right now and the meta is not fun even if you're playing shadow. I ranked up to masters with midshadow and I honestly never hated this game more than during that entire time period.
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>>174561014
I think it might be possible. First of all, you're exaggerating on the number of people playing. We're approaching 10 million downloads. We're limiting our targets to shadow players in ranked. Now let's be generous, and assume that that means there's an equal distribution of players in each class. Now let's assume that out of those 10 million downloads, 1 million are playing at any given time. If that's the case, we have about 140k people playing shadow.

We start roping them. Even though it's a small number of people, it becomes prevalent, because people will start talking about it. "When I play shadow, I sometimes run into a guy with the name 'BanShadow' or something, and he ropes me every turn." This creates the illusion of numbers. People will talk about it more than it actually happens. People stop playing shadow because they're convinced if they do, they'll just be forced to play 30 minute games. All of this happens through word of mouth and a low number of dedicated ropers.

Best part is, this could be automated with bots.
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>>174561501
I would not recommend playing dirt in ToG honestly, and this is coming from someone who played it heavily in RoB and DE.
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>>174561339
>free coco+mimi

But thats wrong, retard.

You get a randomized +2 and a randomized 2 damage to a monster only. The effect is certainly much less than Cerberus, who gives you absolute control over where that damage and where those bonuses go, and shadows.
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Just played my first unraked match, wtf this is easier than the bots.
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>>174561643
you do realize you need to be 18+ to be here right
>>174561501
dirt is even worse than it was in RoB
>>174561530
any aggro/tempo mirrors are like that
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>>174561731
unranked is for meme decks only
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>>174561643
>being this asshurt
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>>174561731
Higher level difficulty bots are a bunch of cheating fucks anyways. They're probably better than most of the players you'll meet early on. Just hope you don't get matched up with sandbaggers.
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>>174561782
yeah on D rank maybe
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>>174561782
I'm playing a banner swordcraft I found by googling for starter decks, but didnt have enough for all the cards so I put in 2 luminous mages, 1 surefire bullet and 1 extra dance of death. I'm still not sure if those are of any use desu.
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>>174561758
>>174561668
Well shit.
Is Rune just fucked this set? I really don't want to resort to coinflip witch to play my favorite craft...
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>>174561782
>low masters is for meme decks only
ftfy
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>>174561837
Yeah, I guess I am mad. I really liked this game, but this is terrible, and I want to do what I can to make it better. If not, I might as well just stop playing. Offering this strategy of how to fix things doesn't cost me anything other than the slight amount of time it takes to type.
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>>174561967
Every variant of rune is fucked right now. Just pick whichever you like, it's only a slight difference in win/loss ratio.
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>>174561986
Holy fuck that is some terrible moonbun art.
That face gives me fucking nightmares.
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>>174561967
Just build that aggro burn deck thats been floating around

I mean Levi still carries the deck on his back but...

Fuck man, if not for Levi rune has literally nothing.
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>>174562014

You can't fix it at this point anon. I have never seen a declining game all of the sudden just improve and stopped being shit with X patch or Y update. Like imagine you quit because of Rage of Daria and came back hoping ToG fixed things but you came back to this? It might not be AS shit, but it'll never be good again.
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>>174561758
>any aggro/tempo mirrors are like that

Sword and Blood mirrors are near identical right now. Even Daria mirrors are only around a 10% difference. A shadow mirror is literally twice as bad as Daria matchups when it comes to going first versus second. That's extremely fucking sad.
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>>174561963
surefire bullet is never useful
playing banner is just cramming in as many officers as you can that summon tokens or have storm
avoid commanders completely (except albert) so maid leader can fetch your banner card
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>>174557532
Not really. It's an admission of weakness that you wont even try to succeed with a counter forest deck or other and resort to roping like a petulant child.

I would also imagine that even if you rallied every single redditor to do it 24/7 it would only result in cygames being forced to enforce their ToS and ban you petulant idiots.

By about day 7 after starting you should have about 40-50k vials worth of cards. You can be almost whatever you want to be. Go ahead and mail an actual physical letter to them and run a campaign on the forum, twitter, and reddit for others to do the same if you actually want to make a change cause you'll never get it with roping.
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>>174562316
i'm not sure you know what you're talking about
going first in aggressive mirror always was a huge advantage
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>>174560787
Midrange Shadow is by far the strongest deck in the game right now.
>i can just vial all others classes anyway
Don't do this.
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>>174557592
What rank? I've been memeing people with it a lot

>>174560998
The rate is 1 lego per 9 packs and 1 gold per 3 packs. Make sure to bitchpost when you get 3 golds in 1 pack kiddo

>>174560787
If you need vials you need to arena more, not delete yourself
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>>174562227
>>174561758
I want to have a threesome with those two semen demons
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>>174562360
It is true. I could probably craft midshadow or whatever other deck right now if I want. Though I have a ton of vials, and it's been my goal since the game started to craft every single card in the game without spending any money. I'm not going to craft stuff that may be made useless in a few weeks. And even then, it still wouldn't fix the fact that 50% of the ladder is the same OP deck.
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>>174562427
I'm talking about the actual numbers right now from shadowlogs. There's a big difference in having a 5% advantage and having a literal 20% advantage.

Shadows winrate disparity is so retarded because of early prince catacombs and shadow reapers literally deciding games on turn 3/4. Other matchups in the game don't even have anything near as stupid as those cards.
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What is the best midrange shadow deck rn? I just want to escape AA3 already and have fun on T2...
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>>174561501
Aggro Dirt is actually pretty good just not Shadow tier.
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>>174562496
>What rank?
Master.
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>>174557532
Dude, actually get some guy who know runes and contact cygoys.
Roping won't help.
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