/vn/ - Determination Edition

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^_^

>>174526018
cockroach

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Chizuru is for rape.

Why does /jp/ hate us

>>174526105
/jp/ /vn/ is fucking corporate Stalking

>>174526251
>corporate Stalking
nani?

Kill all meganekko

>>174526018
>tfw no rape route in koisuru natsu

>>174526105
being a JOP makes you hateful and bitter

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Do you like cats?

Can you stop fucking with the OP? Retard

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This is my samurai girlfriend, say something nice about her.

>tf no moege with NTR ending.

>>174526513
Best familiar.

>>174526606
>tfw when no NTR with vanilla ending

>>174526519
NEVER post in my thread again

>>174526513
They're fine too

>>174526601
i've got bad news

>>174526397
But they dead son, name three meganekkos from an anime in the year 2017, I'm waiting.
Compared to 90s/early 00s anime where there was always one meganekko in the group.
Hell even VNs these days are dropping meganekkos.

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>>174526749
you can't stop me

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Which one would /vn/ pick given the choice?

>>174526854
Good, meganekkos were always shit.

>>174526884
Both.

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>>174526854
Forgot my image

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>>174526607
>>174526754
Save the cats they're in danger!

>>174526854
There's class rep from Tsugumomo this season. But just like in the manga she'll become irrelevant to the plot.

>>174526909
>falling for the Netflix meme

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>>174526884
This one.

>>174526950
>>174527067
It's kind of sad because it means otaku culture is moving on and things will never be the same like they used to, we will never get another show that is solely focused on making fun of otaku and anime cliches like Lucky Star, the closest thing recently is what, Yuru Yuri?

>>174526884
Where she takes lead. Other way is too out of character for her.

>>174527281
Akiba's trip made fun of pretty much every kind of Otaku

>>174526854
>>174527067
There's also the MC's an hero'd sister in Re:Creators. But she has appeared for all of 10 seconds so far.

>>174527307
Good taste.

For which one is there an after in A-3? Or is it both?

>>174527042
Wherever I am, I must also rape.

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>>174526098

>>174527281
Lucky Star sucked.
As for shows that made fun of Otaku and the like, TWGOK comes to mind. There are more that I know I've watched/read but I'm drawing a blank right now.

>>174526880
That's a dumb shirt.

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>>174527391
it's both again

she is unique in that her's is the only one that does this

I played a moege last night.

>>174527701
I think I'll enjoy her route.

>>174527701
I'm tempted to skip everything and go straight to A-3.

Literally best girl.

>>174527281
While I like these kind of things I am also pretty hyped about some stuff that's coming out so I don't really mind that much.

>>174527838
Tell us about it, anon.

>>174526909
>westerns
What is the Outlaw Josey Wales of Visual Novels?

>>174528237
What is the Dollars Trilogy of visual novels?

>>174527879
nevermind, not translated :^)

Neat, NEKO-NIN is fully uncensored.
SP done right be me on this one. You get my money.

>>174528373
Dollars trilogy is good, but Josey Wales had better characters and story. Lone Watie makes alone is enough reason to watch it.

>>174528550
And that comes out tomorrow? Is nekopara vol 3 coming out next month to? Thats a lot of catpanions

>>174528672
Considering the severe drought inbetween releases, this is fine. Can never have too many adorable catgirls.

>>174528550
To be honest I usually kinda prefer censored over uncensored. The artists know they're gonna be censored so half the time they just draw shitty looking mushroom dicks and big puffy vaginas.

At least with the censor you can use your imagination.

are we stiil pretending that we love nekoshit?

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>>174529026
yeah but when the artist actually does a good job... Mmmm delicious.

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>>174529435
>2 - Eggs
everytime

>>174529435
I lost count how much I fapped to this game.

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>>174529435
>>174529660
Is there actual sex that is not on the list since it isnt a "fetish?" Or is the whole game nothing but fetish?

>>174526407
>>tfw no rape route in koisuru natsu
But the threesome route with Riho and Umi has some psuedo-forcing on Umi

>>174529876
Those are just the fetish's, there's quite a bit of vanilla as well. I think the two main girls have 9-15 vanilla scenes each, although some may have minor fetish's associated with them (one is cooking themed so naked apron vanilla, one is maid themed so vanilla in a maid outfit.

>>174530018
let's be honest, she wanted it

Is Da Capo worth reading?

>>174530284
One not so much, two might be if you want a long moege with a bit of plot and three only if you are invested in knowing about Sakura.

what are the best sprites to play higurashi with?

>>174530941
The ones you draw yourself.

>>174530941
ps3

>>174530941
Obviously you mix and match them all using the best sprite of each set.

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>sukisuki STILL not out

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Post me a more perfect ass than this.

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>>174532313

>>174530047
I want a VN with nothing but girls dressed in aprons! That is my fetish.

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>>174532313

>>174530941
The worse the sprite the more it adds to the spooky atmosphere, the modern looking sprites actually detract from the horror and suspense.

Basically this >>174531059

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>>174532313

i want to kill myself for cro

>>174532313
Worst rabu.

>>174532313
I have one but it's NSFW

>>174532808
MUH

>>174526105
Jealousy. Also somehow they still decide to lurk here despite 'hating' it.

>>174533521
we're all brothers here
no one will report you senpai

>>174533716
i will report him if it's not good enough for my standarts

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>>174533716

>>174534067
I cry evvry tiem

>>174533521
You don't get banned for posting an external link to the image.

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>even ROP is making fun of us

>>174534372
Literally all the good slavs are dead and no one cares

>>174534372
Sekai Project going to license this one anyway.

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>>174533716
I'm definitely going to report him if it is lewd

>>174535013
I don't know what makes you believe that but it's completely wrong, the only chance of us ever seeing a translation of SakuÚta is if SubaHibi sells well enough for them to see a potential market here. Even then they aren't made by the same company so the chance of that happening is very low.

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>do the best girl first
>completely lose the willpower to finish the game

>>174535681
More like you saved yourself sometime from wasting on the less inferior girls. Now go re-read her route again

>>174535567
>I don't know what makes you believe that but it's completely wrong
This vns considered to be kamige and SP has a history of licensing kamiges. See Clannad, Grisaia, Bald Sky.

>>174534372
Wait what? That got translated in Russian?

>>174534372
Finally i get some use of my russian origin.

>Translators lose their shit when their customers don't give a fuck about quality
I will never understand

>>174535860
No patch on vndb.

>>174536047
>Anon lose their shit when their e-celeb cries about random bullshit on Twitter
I will never understand

cuckicucki when?

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>>174536338
not until we all have suffered enough

>>174536047
I take it you are talking about how they are all still outraged about Persona 5?

Does MG really only have one chump that works on coding or some shit? How much longer until that shithead finishes imopara2 so he can move onto sukisuki

>>174534372
>>174535013
>>174535567
>>174535847
>>174535860
>>174535926
>>174536047
>>174536089
>>174536316
>>174536338
>>174536603
Guess what guys? It's finally time. Starting from today you can do it. Ganbare. 出来る

Should just rename this general to /eceleb/ since it's all you discuss

>>174537118
yeah, im going to learn russian!

>>174537068
>Does MG really only have one chump that works on coding or some shit?
Two. Doodler and BDH.

>>174537068
Higurashi needs to come out first going by what he said a month ago and he is also working on Rakuen. And it is the same for lots of the publishers since there is a shortage of freelance programmers/hackers who are willing to work for peanuts (in comparison to working in a proper job). We are lucky to have Doddler who loves VNs enough to keep at it.

>>174537150
If you wait till around 11pm EST it gets full of EVN niggers and literal Reddit discussion. Plus that one illiterate fate poster.

>>174535847
>Clannad
>Grisaia
>kamige

Oh, you're serious aren't you? Friendly reminder that they bought out translations for both of those and the reason Baldr is being delayed is because they couldn't strike a deal with Aroduc. What happens when they have to translate a 60 hour VN with Sca-JI's complicated writing from scratch? Clusterfuck.

If anyone localizes SakuUta it's definitely going to be Frontwing, they're already well known in Japan and that's why they could collaborate with KeroQ in the firstplace

Is https://vndb.org/v1590 any good?

>>174537150
Doesn't help the line about them got removed in the shitpost OP.

>>174537118
If they actually translated it in russian and someone bothers explain how things work to me i may translate it in english. It would be trash since it's a 3 way translation. But atleast i would do something usefull with my life.

>>174536047
That crew are stuck being paid pennjes translating porn flip books that sell 1000 copies, of course they're jealous of people being paid marginally more money to translate an insanely successful series that will stand out on their CV and get them more jobs.

>>174537538
It's an OP made by the retarded Undetale spammer, so it's no surprise.

>>174537297
Technically more than that going by what Doddler says, but they're likely unlisted. Might be part of MG's main Japanese branch.

And then you also have the cases where games are handed off to the original companies for their tech work.

Maya fucking when?

>>174537923
Depends, real life might have claimed Irru.

>>174537923
I wish to know this as well. My d requires her v.

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This route is unexpectedly enjoyable.

>>174537990
Working on it ever so slowly

>>174537768
The problem mostly comes from having so many different engines with their own quirks that it is impossible to have someone who really know the ins and outs of them all, so they either have to be Doddler who basically learns from scratch or fish around for someone who already knows. It is even worse for some of the older titles which barely run on a modern OS.

>>174537990
It would have probably been this weekend, but Irru has shit to do so it might be delayed.

>>174537429
Aren't both Higurashi and Rakuen scheduled for a release like two weeks?

>>174537923
Noble Works is already out though, anon.

>>174538672
They are but it wouldn't surprise me that Doddler is still doing finishing touches. Especially with Rakuen which was actually meant to be out last month and got delayed because it needed more technical work.

>Good Haro
>BDH
>Koestl

Why is MG staff so insufferable? It's like they are on a crusade to boycott other companies. They have one or two things to learn from Sekai Project desu.

Do you guys even enjoy VNs anymore?

>>174537461
Honestly start to report them. The mod seems to clean up a lot of shitposting here recently so maybe if we report the EVN shitters the mods will actually do something.

>>174539509
I enjoy moege.

>>174539134
The EOPersyn community gave them a free pass because of how shit SP was/is.

If MG/Sekai actually released their games instead of sitting on 100% translated+edited games we would have something to discuss.

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It's time for lo-

>>174540096
Blame the lack of competent programmers in the industry. Clone Doddler a few times and they would probably be out by now.

>>174539509
I love moege. Look forward to most releases more than any AAA game.

>>174540151
Anymore of the left?

>>174540151
>tfw like both cowtits and lolis
Feels good!

>>174540151
Why is she so smug? I love the art style at least.

>>174540289
I blame retarded localization companies who take on 3x as many products as they have the capacity to complete

>>174540790
Where does JAST sit in that? They probably have the capacity yet are slow as fuck.

>>174540151
lo-ving oni girls?

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>Runa already forgotten
Well, it was fun while it lasted.

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>>174529435
the scene with narika where you're invisible on a public bus getting a blowjob from her... oh my god

>>174541497
She that water behind Runa? She needs to drown in it.

>>174540961
I would hardly even call JAST a localization company at this point, just a way for Peter Payne to launder his Jlist money.

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>>174541665
>vanilla shit

>>174541862
ive got an entire life ahead of me to slide into degeneracy with, i'm going to take my time and enjoy it

>>174529435
What game?

>>174541862
Vanilla is best you pleb

>>174541971
Don't listen to him, anon. Vanilla is enjoyed only by the most patrician of anons.

>>174542005
Please Bang My Ninja

>>174542109
Wouldn't that work as another name for Taimanin Yukikaze too?

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>>174542053
>>174542085
>vanillatards

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>>174541665
this scene anon?

>>174542005
Beat Blades Haruka.

>>174542373
Thank you

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>>174542373
hell fucking yeah that scene

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>based mods clean up the EVN shitter

>>174542617
Still Narika sensei trumps it all

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>>174542956
lewd!

>>174542956
The fuck is that?

>>174542956
IS THAT A FUCKING NIPPLE?

>>174543187

I'd guess candle wax, it's a fairly popular thing.

>>174543248
Fuck off. I even added mosaic so its not.

>>174543350
Does candle wax feel good?

I won't betray him. I won't give him the satisfaction! I'll keep loving him until he surrenders, until his heart is mine.

>>174543501

It feels good if you're into masochism, assuming it's not so hot that it'll actually burn you.

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I LIKE LOLIS!

>>174544091
She would be mad if call her a loli though.

>>174544091
gross

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>These two are the same person
The fuck? Explain this shit to me, i've only completed the 1st Arc of Umineko

>>174544570
R07 talantless hack.

>>174544570
They aren't.

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>>174544570
I am Rena.

Anyone remember the Umineko fake spoilers?
Hahaha, that K1 = Belial fake pic.

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>>174545251

Why does no one care about Higanbana no Saku Yoru ni and Rose Guns Days?

>2007+10
>umineko

>>174544570
>>174544634
>>174544746
So on the topic on Umineko is the manga good i don't have time to read all the VN's but i'm curious about it

>>174545683
Not really. If you want to save your time just watch the anime instead.

>>174545683
Don't listen to this faggot >>174545943
Umineko anime was terrible because it just doesn't work.

>>174545462
>implying
If one is good, the other one is better. I'd say that R07's audience is too arrogant to deal with works about nationalism or bullying. Which is why he did the right thing and further spread it on their noses with Trianthology and the hikikomori subject.

>>174545683
The manga is great and canon.

Reminder that R07 is a shit and anyone with an IQ higher than that of monkey's would agree.

>>174546734
Eat your dumpling Kastel.

>>174544570
They're not Rika is just a piece.
You will see other one in episode 5.

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>the unskippable credits are longer than the route

>>174548548
Unless they're Mighty Number 9 tier long I don't believe you.

>>174548970
hermit crab route in majikoi s

>People hate Umineko
I will never understand

>>174549071
It's almost as if different people had different opinions on stuff.

>>174549202
It's almost as if you should never reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.

>the concept of love

I will never UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND

I miss Irru.

>>174549397
you have to suffer before maya gets released, anon

>>174549397
They always die so young.

I am the bone of my sword

>Maya never
You now remeber when Irru and Trip was /our gays/

>>174549687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MmYx1ayYTM

>>174549397
But I never left

>>174549450
The pain will make her route all the sweeter. I know it.

>>174550242
post maya

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>>174550242
Don't leave us!

>>174550379
More like it's going to be pretty mediocre and you'll end up disappointed by having unrealistic expectations.

>>174550431
I'm out of new CGs to post. I wanna keep some a secret for the route

Yukino's penis

Who is the cutest girl(male) in VNs?

>>174550664
Lukako

>>174550530
It's moege, anon. I have no expectations beyond cute and fun girls, nice lewds, and characters not being insufferable.

>>174550540
It's coming out this week right? Right?

>>174544916
Did Rika do this because she was pissed off about failing again?

>>174551019
We're trying our best

I am going to rape Irru in the anus if he dont release Mayas path this week!

>>174551084
I guess it can't be helped.

>>174551084
Even though you such as such, it can't be helped.

>>174551084
I Guess I'll have to off myself

>>174551084
Can't be helped then.

>>174551084
shikata ga nai

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>>174551084
It's fine. I've been looking for just one last reason to end it all.

Moege

>>174551826
is

>>174551925
Killing the industry.

Oi lads I said we were aiming for a weekend patch.

Thursday isn't even over yet

>>174551084
Can't you use 'that'?

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>>174551992
It's too late, I have already ended it.

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>ywn meet a qt.314 loli who will never reject you

>>174549071
literally who

>>174552093
n-no

>>174552005
"That"? Masaka....

>>174552093
Was Takeru the best mub-rub?

>>174552116
>SukiSuki
>never reject you
Yeah about that..

>>174552005
But they'll die if they use 'that'!

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>>174552093
;_;7

>>174552005
Will 'that' person allow it?

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>>174552282

>>174552240
That a fact?

I dare /vn/ to name one(1) good VN.

>>174552448
Please Bang my Wife

>>174552448
Please Bang my Runa

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>>174552231
he's had a hard life

>>174552448
Galaxy Angel.

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>>174552116
>mahiru is a cutie pie
>choices actually matter
>alternate paths for replay value
>now animated CG
God damnit /vn/, stop it. Just stop. I really can't take it any longer.

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>>174552632
you're so close anon.

>>174552282
>torpedo tits

Shame.

>>174552851
Why is she so perfect? Will she really save /vn/?

>sukisuki general

>>174551976
Moege may be the dominate type of higher budget release in Japan today, but it isn't like if all the moege suddenly disappeared people would buy other types of titles, especially the niche types of works preferred by those who are most against moege.

1.-Mahiru
2.-Ayame
3.-Chiho
4.-Rinka
.
.
.
.

.
Shit
9999999.Yuki

>>174552567
Still gotta finish that.

There is literally nothing better than moege

Most of literary giants, like Kafka, have only grown popular and widely accepted years after their death. VNs are a very young medium with barely twenty years of history that might just be slightly ahead of their time. Anime wasn't all that popular in the west when I started watching it and look at it now.

I personally think that cult classics that grow popular in a small niche of hardcore consumers (and critics) are what usually end up having the most literary merit. It's how it has been with a lot of what we currently think of as the greatest novels, and it describes the current situation of VNs perfectly.

The best works challenge their readers and stand out from the rest, and that usually turns off a lot of average people who are just looking for status quo. Romeo, one of the most famous vn writers, wrote a few novels and instantly got nominated for literary awards. There are genius writers in this medium as there are in any, and you might be among the first to discover them. :p

- Conjueror

>>174553523
>literary giants
>Kafka
xd

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>Girl is shy and introvert in common route
>Has a thing for fendom and SM play in her route

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>>174553942
sounds perfect, title?

>>174553523
>Anime wasn't all that popular in the west when I started watching it and look at it now.
that part always grinded my gear

>>174553151
>isn't like if all the moege suddenly disappeared people would buy other types of titles
I dont know about that.

I remember people saying that of JRPGs and bam once they stopped saturating the market FPS took the lead.

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>Its a lolis route
>no one makes fun of you for likeng lolis

If they don't release SukiSuki this week I'm gonna vomit into my cereal.

>>174554135
Other types of people who are against moege is what he said, anon. For example moegefags are just going to start buy fujoshit just because they don't make moege. Obviously part of that market would spread out into other genres, but that wasn't the point.

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>Ryukishi07. Dislike him. A cheap sensationalist, clumsy and vulgar. A prophet, a claptrap journalist and a slapdash comedian. Some of his scenes are extraordinarily amusing. Nobody takes his reactionary journalism seriously.
What did he mean by this?

>>174554230
Not happening anon, we're way too close to Dies irae release and they probably don't want big releases overlapping. But I guess if they do it this week there is enough time between them.

>>174554486
Just spill the beans, what comes next oy

>>174554594
It still feels surreal to me that Dies irae is getting translated.

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whoa so beta

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>tfw sports underwear fetish
Based pizza.

maya is my anal slave!

anon is my anal slave!

>>174554914
>tfw shit art fetish
based

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>>174554914
lewd

>>174554636
Soon

>>174554594
Doesn't MG usually announce release dates like a month in advance?

>>174554594
Dies Irae fucking when?

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>>174554914
>sports underwear

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>>174555081

>>174555081
Yeah there's that too.

SWEET YOUNG BRIDE FUCKING WHEN MG YOU FUCKING CUNTS

I literally want to fuck little girl!

I want to be a little girl on a surface level!

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This is my imouto-wife!

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>>174556071
She's pretty cute anon, I bet she'd strip while livestreaming.

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>>174532808
>No sexual content
A-At least it looks kinda interesting.

>>174556262
Sagiri a pure, A PURE!

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>reading VN
>get to H-scene
>close VN

>Lurking /vn/
>See typical, regurgitated shitpost.
>Contemplate why I haven't add a term used in it to my filter list yet.

>>174556262
>>174556071
What happens if you get your imouto pregnant?

>>174556803
Purest love story.

>>174556803
You make vanilla love to her

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>>174556571
>read vn
>get to h-scene
>turn volume up high as fuck
>ascend to godhood
>mfw

>>174557543
I just put it in auto mode and leave the room for 10 minutes or so until the characters are done. Privacy is important.

Sukisuki fucking when? Dies Irae fucking when? Nekopara vol 3 fucking when? Baldr fucking when? Sakusaku fucking when? Hatsukoi 1/1 full patch fucking when?

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>>174557660

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>>174557660

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>>174557660
Do you say ganbare to the MC as you leave the room while giving thumbs up to your monitor?

>he doesn't leave the room and masturbate while watching them through the cracked door

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>>174557660
>Goes out of the room with the VN in auto play at full blast
>Can hear the H scene going while you are doing other stuff
Why the fuck thinking about this makes me laugh?

>>174557997
More like a
>I-I'll get out of your way now, h-have fun.

>>174558146
>not pretending youre the MC's best friend who helps him out along the way with making some hard choices
>not wishing the MC good luck as he finally seals the deal with his girl

>>174558357
I wish I could be half the man Tomoda is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UANiABx_w8

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>>174557660
>>174557997
>>174558082
>>174558146
>>174558357

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>Order from restaurant with a chance of girl being the one doing the delivery
>Delivery arrives
>Hide porno DVD of look alike in your own clothes
What could possibly go wrong?

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>>174558357
>Not self inserting as the girl

>>174558968
Why didn't he just put it down

>>174558968
She sees your fully erect phallus.

>>174558968
I'm sure everything will be fine

>>174558476
I need a bro like that. Also that is one of the only shoujo besides Taiyou no Ie that I actually enjoyed.

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>tfw irru will never whisper sweet nothings in your ear
Why even live?

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>mfw

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>>174559102
Sure

>>174559316
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1SHEspWN8eh

>>174527879
Best by miles.

>>174559551
>Roona

>>174559551
You sound like my neighbor, and this concerns me.

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>>174559551
>tfw some random anon molested your ear

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>>174559551
Why do I feel like my purity has been defiled

>>174559316
You don't want my accent anywhere near your ear

>>174559849
I want your accent everywhere but my ear senpai

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>>174559849

>>174559849
>tfw you've worked together for more than 5 years now but your proofreader's accent has never been in your ear

>>174559849
I want it in my ear actually

>>174559551
h-hot

>>174560108
Only in your anus.

>>174560108
Wow, you guys should go to couples counseling.

>>174560108
He's cheating for sure

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Cockblocked by Maya lying about having her period.

Is it the ultimate excuse?

>>174561562
Steins;Gate spoilers.

>>174556803
another loli is created

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>>174561562
How is that a cockblock? It's just the breakdown of padding. Get the fuck in there.

>>174561682
Can you even spoil moege? It's not like there's even much of a story to begin with.

>>174561902
>ywn see this experience irl

>>174561902
Is she in the process of putting that girl in a sharpshooter?

>>174561562
>>174561902
I don't think it's possible to impregnate a girl when her body is expelling rotten eggs. Can you?

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>>174562181
More like the scorpion deathlock.

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What if I told you that one’s entire life had been decided by fate?

That every single one of your actions, from the minute to the monumental, stems not from your own choices, but had already been decided upon?

That life being a journey of limitless possibilities is but an illusion, and no matter how fiercely man struggles, he stands at the mercy of a long-established path?

The wealthy shall know their riches,
The needy shall starve on the streets,
The wicked shall be wicked, the righteous just.

The beautiful, the hideous,
The strong, the frail,
The fortunate and the miserable…

And…

The victors and the defeated.

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>>174562442
Step 2 is way too lewd, anon! Lewd!

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>Listen to the advice of the fag that never ever gets any girls
Why

>>174562181
Are there any Cooderes in dies irae?

>>174562815
No, but try Hatoful Boyfriend. Every girl in that is a Coodere.

>>174562807
Steins;Gate spoilers.

>>174562807
she looks so sad ;_;

>>174560108
What if Irru is actually a cute girl this whole entire time and you didn't know? And irru has had a crush on you but never knew how to approach the conversation.

>>174562562
Soon my fellow anons. My Briah is ready!

>>174563209
>Irru lives on the other side of the pond
I dunno if I want my life to become that difficult

>>174562807
Because you're playing a moege anon, unless there's drama you will have nothing else to read for the next 8-10 hours. it's bullshit because they could have just gone with something related to the basketball club instead, which they do later on anyways

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>>174562775
Seems like you failed step 2.

>>174563460
wtf I know how to fight now

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>>174562442
>>174563460
These are way cuter than they have any right to be.

>>174563329
But Umi's route was entirely drama free besides when Nagisa goes bitch mode for 5 minutes. It was like they wrote the entire route and everything without any drama, then the producer or someone demanded that they have at least one drama situation.

>>174563743
You're way cuter than you have any right to be.

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>>174564506
I'm the best!

Speaking of the best, When's Degica going to stop being a censoring piece of shit and release alternative?

>>174564673
Soon
https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/854868610778488833

>>174564757
USA

USA

USA

>>174562562
>a VN where you already know everything that happens before it happens
sounds boring desu

>>174564906
Obviously Mephistopheles wins in the end.
Cause he did nothing wrong.

>>174563850
>One route in a moege doesn't do it out of the hundreds of them that have forced drama shoehorned in!

Anon, are you aware of what the word "exception" means?