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>Deck lists, news etc
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://heartharena.com/
https://hsdecktracker.net/

>Open Tournaments
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>/hsg/ Tournament
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Tourney Discord: https://discord.gg/xHRA3Qz
Dates: April 28th-30th NA
May 5th - 7th EU
Prize Pool: 20$ Blizzbucks, a Gallon of Chocolate Milk

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>>174464556
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It's fucking hillarious how even the Tavern Brawl has cancer Rogue.
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>this game doesn't require skill
that's why you're rank 15
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>Dates: April 28th-30th NA May 5th - 7th EU

Why did you cucks postpone it?
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>>174518754
>Hurr durr rank is everything
Every fucking retard can netdeck himself too legend.
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What's the worst class this expansion? Warlock?
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Got the 80G quest (EU), post battletag and i'll add you.
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>>174518956
Alex#216788
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>>174518931
not true
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>>174518956
#2702
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>>174518941
Warlock easily. They have zoo and zoo got almost 0 tools.
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>>174519025
That's right. You have to have enough money.
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>>174518661
SOMEONE POST THAT CUTE MEXICAN I ALREADY MISS HER
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BEHOLD THE POWER OF THE

PEE OH

SEVEN

P R

O M
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>>174518941
warlock, then shaman and druid
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>>174518956
piesank#2121 if it is still there
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80g Quest here. D0D#21600. No concede , let's just play.
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What the fuck was Blizzard thinking when they made this card.
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>>174519215
Which region?
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>>174519215

added on Antarctica :^)
>>174519213
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Best mage deck for climbing the ladder? Freeze, Quest...?
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>>174519254

They were pushing beast druid. It has never caught on outside of casual play.
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>>174519254
"druid needs some strong early drop, since class has bad removal, also let's add beast synergy"
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>>174519119
Nvm found it
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>"You asked for this!"
>I literally never asked to queue into mage
What did she mean by this?
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>>174519332
hunter or either warrior archetype.
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>>174519102
>muh money
any other excuses?
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>>174519254
What's wrong with it? It's one of the few actually good Druid cards left in the game.
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>>174519375
This really erects my wall, if you know what I mean
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>>174519334
>It has never caught on outside of casual play.
>Offer exactly 0 beast Druid synergy
>Wonder why it never catches on
Gee, I can't imagine why beast Druid isn't more popular.
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>>174519417
>when you counter Created By: Babbling Book/Cabalist's Tome/Primordial Glyph with Created By: Hydrologist
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>>174519431
That's literally all you're doing. You're throwing money at a game, copying someone's netdeck from the internet, then just grinding until you have enough wins to get to the rank you want. The only people claiming this game requires skill don't have any.
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>>174519594
>The only people claiming this game requires skill don't have any.
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>>174519594
It still requires skill to pilot the deck. I don't care what you say, you cannot disprove this.
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>>174519701
Why do you children keep claiming this? RNGStone is the fucking last game to require skill.
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>>174519660
>I don't have a real answer, so I'm just going to quote him with some funny reaction pic xDDd
I tought 4chan is +18
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>>174519594
u are not good, worthless MTG yuroshit
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>>174519436
I don't know anything about the current meta, I just got back into this game. So when I drafted an Arena deck and saw this, I couldn't believe it. That's got to be the best 1 drop in Arena.
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>>174519771
>tfw your butterface has autism
Poor dumb animal.
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>>174519752
Your meme statement deserves a meme response.

Unless you are unironically trying to say the game doesn't require skill.

In which case, I will gladly play vs you in 20 games with the same basic deck and win at least 15 of those times.
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>>174519742
This isn't an argument. You're the one who's claiming it doesn't in the first place, fucking prove it instead of just calling dissenting opinions children. I'll give you a hint though- "RNG" is not an adequate response.
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Legendaries I've disenchanted so far to get dust for my decks:
>Golden Deathwing
>Don Han'Cho
>Krul the Unshackled
>The Voraxx

Did I fuck up, /hsg/?
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>>174519594
You need skill to earn money.
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>>174519904
>>174519909
That was a different poster, fag.

>Unless you are unironically trying to say the game doesn't require skill.
>P2win queers are absolutely convinced it's "their own hard work" that got them wins, not just throwing wads of cash at the game

>>174519960
And if this was your entire claim, you may have a point.
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>>174519913
>I AM POWER INCARNAAAAAAATE
>dankest before the don
how fucking dare you
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>>174519913
Should have kept deathwing, otherwise its fine
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>>174519594
t. Shie'l Dbe Arer
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>>174519516
>0 beast Druid synergy
dunno, 4/4 on turn 2 + draw a card with Mark of Y'Shaarj.

Menagerie Warden is also great when you use it on buff stealth Tiger.

Beast druid just lacks all mid game. 3 mana Dino Rager with adapt is fuckin joke.
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>>174520006
Alright so you have no argument. You're dismissed you pathetic fuck, why don't you go do something enjoyable or noteworthy with yourself.
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>>174519913
>Golden Deathwing

>>174520035
>Use rank as insult
>B-b-but this game isn't just pay2win garbage!

>>174520081
You literally just named pretty much everything.
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>>174520118
No, like all morons, you're just trying to make me repeat myself.
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>>174519913
i wouldnt have dusted deathwing but if you feel no remorse its fine
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>>174520123
it isn't though
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>>174519332
What is the first word on her chest?

x never come from happiness?
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>>174520283
What isn't?
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>>174520243
>>174520123
>>174520034
>>174520009
Well, the Deathwing had to go to craft Ragnaros before the rotation (I had no spare dust). I kinda miss him, but I don't plan on playing a deck with him any time soon.
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>>174520347
Art maybe
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>>174520404
Are you going to play Wild?

I think it is a mistake (in this instance), unless you are specifically going to play Wild.
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So what is the funniest card in the game? This is my pick.

>Play utterly random nonsense
>Finish by casting Lost in the Jungle, then casting a Fireball on a Silver Hand
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>>174520606
It's pre-nerf Yogg, definitely.
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>>174520404
That's what I figured. It was a gold Legendary and you needed dust.
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>>174520347
Art

Because 'le artists are 2deep4u depressed you couldn't understand what we feel' meme
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>>174520457
Yeah I reckon that is probably close, google reveals she is some instagram fiend.

https://www.instagram.com/jessicabeppler/?hl=en
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Reached Legend last weekend and I've been playing this list since then, now that I can afford playing greedy decks. Shit is stupidly fun.
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>>174520503
I like having Raggy in my collection as a Hall of Fame card, and I had a decent amount of fun with him when he was still in standard. It quickly became my favorite card.

Also free dust refund
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>>174520727
Cheers - I did find her though.

How do you spoiler - I'm mostly from /sp/ so don't know the spoiler commands, my waiting time is an extra couple of seconds because of this link

>>174520735
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>>174520820
you just do it
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>>174520820
crtl + s
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>>174520820
select text you wanna spoiler and ctrl+s
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>>174520779
Well technically you could use deathwing going forward in standard. But yeah doesnt really matter, I crafted a regular Sylvannas and then I was lucky enough to get a golden one in a pack and I kept both (this was last year already) and I then got the 3200 dust back and I disenchanted the golden one - I don't plan on playing wild so I have the regular one for brawls or wild should it be worth it some day (like a reward or something).
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>>174520908
>>174520974
>>174521015
cheers
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>>174520739
How many total games did you play?
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>>174518921
Tourney guy had work
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>>174519332
>Those frumpy titties
Sad how you only need the suggestion of her tits to know how pathetic those sand bags look
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>Miracle-gro was a deck that let you draw a bunch and make a big guy in one turn
'no'
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>>174521826
I didn't even get to the tits, I wrote her off at the tattoo.

d a m a g e d g o o d s
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HMM...
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>>174522165
Because Best Girl gets Best Cards.
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>>174522165
but bunnel brogg synergy :DDDD
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>>174522165
Primodial is just RNG portal with discover
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>>174522328
"just"
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Am I gud yet?

I still make tons of mistakes, how am I top 1%?
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>>174522383
If you play enough you'll climb.
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>>174522165
What's the problem?
Jaina discovering a pyroblast and being able to use it turn 8 is fair and balanced because
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>>174522486
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>>174520756
>reached legend
with what
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>>174522383
>How am I top 1%?
Barely anyone has enough time to grind that much.
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>>174522560
The only card in the game that got it's mana cost nerfed by 2 mana and still sees play
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>>174522328
Except it's not really, is it? It's far better.

You get the choice of 3 mage spells which are generally very high quality. Even if your discover hits the weaker outcomes you are still likely to get something that will help you in whatever situation you're facing. Then, if that wasn't good enough they slap free innervate onto it.

It's Mad Scientist levels of overpowered in my opinion.
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>>174522383
it pretty much comes down to having more time or dedication to grind. Half the people on here also can't tolerate doing more than their dailies
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Not even in brawl I am safe
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A lot of people are praising Lyra but I'm pretty sure the real hero is Radiant Elemental. That little fucker is amazing.
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>Mage cards on average are incredibly broken compared to other classes

If this problem isn't addressed at some point, it's just going to add on to the pile of problems that will inevitably kill this game.

You say Hearthstone is too popular to die, but look what happened with D3. It eventually got replaced completely by Path of Exile.

The same thing will happen to Hearthstone. It's already begun to happen. When this game came out, it had virtually 0 competitors, which was a huge reason for its popularity as it essentially "pioneered" the mainstream online CCG genre.
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>log in
>Lose one game
>Log out
I really don't have what it takes to grind out legend. I get so salty about having to tech shit to have a chance to beat one class.
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>>174523010
Yes, we're aware that Sorcerers Apprentice is a good card.
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>>174523008
>he wins the brawl, which wins him the brawl
whoa..........
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>>174523162

SA doesn't go T2 play + potion of balance removing all the shitty patches from the board.
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Uther is my spirit animal.
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>every single elemental deck is garbage
Woooowwww
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Super strong Miracle deck for easy ladder climb.
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Have many do you have anon?
Show me the page number where your moltens sit
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>>174523615
170
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>>174523615
114 but I always dust all golden cards
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>>174523423
???
elemental shaman is decent.

run bloodlust
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>>174523360
>mfw murloc midrange paladin is pretty fun and good but I can't fully enjoy it for my secret paladin PTSD

My hand is tempted to go to the concede button as soon as they play a secret from Hydrologist, help
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>>174522736
I know it is better
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>>174524482
It's okay, anon. Those days are over. Dr. 6 is never coming back.
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>>174518661
I love Paladin and have 6k dust. Should I craft Sunkeeper Tarim? Any big pally players have experience with the card?

I love his design. A bit of quarter master, a bit of keeper of uldaman.
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Any tips on this deck?
I'm looking for something to replace my old Tempo Mage deck and I think this is on the right path. Lacky + CounterSpell vs a quest deck is sorta living the dream.
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Warlock is dead. Zero competetive decks.
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>>174524868
he's a solid card. All I've learned from this expansion is hsg is retarded at predicting how good/bad cards are.
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>>174525008
FeelsGoodMan
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>All these people crying about Quest Rogue as the real bullshit is safely hidden in the shadows.
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>>174524907
Two Ice Blocks. One Lackey. Bloodmage for a Sorcerer. Arcane Intellect.
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>>174524868
If you have any intention of playing paladin, Funkeeper Terry is 100% worth crafting. He's just so powerful in every archtype. He's hard removal in control, he pushes damage in aggro and clears taunts, he's a tempo swing in midrange. Just craft him.
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>>174525286
>>174525039
I'll go for it, thanks anons. Helps his intro is the best of any legendary in Un'Goro imo.
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>>174525520
Elise has a very nice intro, Priest ones aren't too bad but being summed up as "big flash of light" isn't too exciting.
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four creatures is not enough for the rogue quest it needs to be 5 or 6 what the fuck its like if you dont run some aggro deck you just lose instantly
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>>174525039
>solid card

He's literally the best legendary of the expansion.
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>>174525520
>He doesn't know the glory of a new sun.

Pyros has a good one as well.
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I swear to god I'm going to disappointing if nobody
>sorcerer's apprentice
>sorcer's apprentice
>sorcer's apprentice
>molten reflection
>time warp
>blood of the ancient one
>molten reflection
in the tournament.
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>>174525825
>I swear to god I'm going to disappointing
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What's the best paladin list at the moment?
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>>174526040
Murloc.
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>>174525886
I'll tell my parents I play hearthstone.
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>>174526040
midrange hunter
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>>174526040
Control Murloc
Midrange Murloc
Aggro Murloc
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>>174526040
That one with all the class legendaries is annoying as fuck to play against.
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>win a 20 minute fatigue game
>gain 1 star
>lose a 2 minute perfect curve murloc paladin game
>lose said star
good system
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quest rogues always run that horrible maiev skin

no surprise brainded morons that play quest rogue also have no taste
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>>174526330
Hail, friend.
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>>174526330
Haha you got cucked
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>>174526170
>>174526232

Don't listen to these retards, Control sans Murlocs is the best, they are just shit and can't handle the early game without being able to swarm the board with Murlocs.

No you aren't getting my deck list,
you filthy rank 20 plebs.
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I probably went way overboard but fuck it.
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>tfw you get kazakus but reno is already dead in standard
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>>174526450
id probably cut elise for barnes.
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>>174526040
Hard to say. I think people are gravitating toward a faster murloc-heavy midrange with less control tools and more buffs. Something like this, I think.

My personal favorite, and what I laddered to Legend with, is the grindy midrange with murloc earlygame as well as equality, conc and healing.
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>>174525060
I've never seen Uther's full art before. Why is he a fucking manlet?
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>>174526914
Ever play Warcraft III?
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>play dragon priest
>draw both historians
>don't draw a single dragon in 10 turns
nani
and it happened fucking twice in a row
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>>174526865
Any replacement for vilefin?
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>>174526839
Might be right, but I wanna see how she fares first.
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http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-44/
fucking finally
everything is as it should be
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>>174527091
firefly. but then you might as well drop the whole murloc package
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>>174527186
>quest rogue is tier 3
Called it. lmaoing @ ur lives.
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Stonehill defender is so broken jesus christ

many paladin games or me are just auto-win
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>>174527565
it's not broken it's just that all of pallies legendaries are taunts
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>reach rank 1 with priest, about to hit legend
>take a few days off
>paladin is now tier 0 and everybody plays it
>lose every game
ahahaHAHA fuck
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>>174527186
>Warrior still #1
What did Blizzard mean by this?
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I like this brawl, I can try out and see how good/bad quest cards are without crafting them even on a contained environment.
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>>174519831
No, one of the 2/3 cards, or mana worm going second, or mana worm going first with a cheap spell is still better. And spells are a lot more common, dunno if you noticed.
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>Murloc pally
>Controll pally
>Both T1
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>>174527595
Well yeah, that's why it's broken. In paladin at least.
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>>174527785
>popularity
yeah it means nothing
paladin is tier 1 now, everybody else tier 2
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if quest rogue is tier 3 but people like xixo play it to top 20 legend doesnt that mean the deck takes some "skill" to play
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>>174527993
Pirate Warrior is still T1 although Pally has the most T1 decks. But remember Nzoth Pally was T1 during the first month of WoTG.
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>Opponent has no cards in hand but I win next turn
>Have to choose between playing around X or Y
>Play around X
>Opponent top decks Y
Fuck card games.
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>>174526493
One of the priest decks I'm running is a Kazakus list.
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>>174527993
you can't read, shieldcuck
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>Playing Brawl
>My shaman vs pali
>He gets quest off
>Plays Voltron (5 buffs make 1 beast)
>Doesn't choose untargetable
>Have hex in hand
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I seriously have to tech in Hungry Crab.
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>>174528250
Forgot pic
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>>174527091
Vilefin is basically essential. Murloc synergy on demand, extra mulocs for Megasaur and warleader.
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>>174528250
>>174528393
CoolStoryBob
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Was out of the game for 4-5 months, always been f2p but now I'm getting into arena for the first time to try to earn un'goro cards faster. Every time I get 150 gold I spend it on arena from now on, using heartharena to pick all the cards.

Could I get a quick run-down of what the class tier list for arena is now? Pic related what do I pick?
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>>174527186
the weirdest thing is how silence priest loses to dragon priest

how is that possible when silence priest is literally based around 4 attack minions? is dragonfire that strong?
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>>174528682
rogue without a doubt
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>bad matchups: paladin, warrior
>100% paladin and warrior
>swap deck
>opponent is whatever is your current bad matchup
not rigged
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>>174527186
What card is Blizzard going to nerf/wild next since freeze mage still survives?
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>>174524868
Sunkeeper Tarim is competing hard with Lyra right now for the best legendary minion of the set
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Proof your an oldfag

>shields up!
>board wide *shing*
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What are the current best Arena picks and worst Arena picks?
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>>174524868
Best legendary in the game atm
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>>174518661

- Braindead autopilot decks that require no skill or decisionmaking
- So much RNG that winning or losing is almost completely out of my control
- Slow players
- Lack of interactivity - on your opponent's turn, you can only watch
- Incredibly stingy F2P model
- Incredibly expensive packs for how little they give you
- Epics and legendaries are way too rare and mandatory for decks
- All formats except standard ranked (the most boring format) completely unsupported
- Arrogant dev team that dismisses all complaints and concerns
- Almost no balance patches (they should be weekly)
- Useless old cards never get buffed
- When something gets nerfed, it's nerfed straight to complete uselessness instead of aiming for fairness
- Card pool is shallow, no opportunities for creative deckbuilding
- Almost no interesting synergies or combos, if someone finds an effective combo it is seen as a design error instead of encouraged
- No sense of progress of any kind
- Buggy
- Slow
- Not fun
- Game sucks dick

Did I miss anything, /hsg/?
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>>174527186
these rankings are always fucking bullshit because every fucking pleb who has no clue how to play a deck gets counted

miracle rogue tier 3 yeah right fucking kek

these kind of rankings have literally relevance, it's why you see dumb curve shit like pirate warrior and murloc pally on top, cause they are dumb braindead decks that any retard can play and get 50% winrate with

something like the tempo storm meta snapshot is much more valid of what the real power level of decks is in the hands of good players
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>>174527294
>>174528560
Thanks, I just crafted them. Don't have much guides for playing/mulligan yet so any tips are welcome.
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>>174527186
>Murloc Paladin explicitly stated as the best deck in the game at the bottom of the page
>BUT MUH POPULARITY GRAPHS
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>>174529062
http://www.heartharena.com/tierlist
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>>174528974
it's okay now because it kills you over 3 turns instead of 1 :)
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>>174529151
yeah you missed the uninstall button years ago
>>
How good is ozruk in ele shaman?
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>>174529151
Cocksucking community full of brainless drones.
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>crafts that aren't Un'goro or Classic are only good for a year
It hurts.
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>>174529213
I mean classes not cards. Is mage and rogue still on top?
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>>174529253
Must have. Doesn't function without it actually.
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>>174529253
0/10 worst card of the expansion.
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>try pirate warrior
>don't enjoy getting fucked over by no topdecks and expensive opening hands every 4 out of 5 games
>try midrange hunter
>same
>spend all of my dust to craft taunt warrior
>9 out of 10 games is midrange hunter who topdecks all of his answers

It seems I can only rank with discard zoo. Playing anything else makes RNG fuck me over.
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>>174529192
wishful thinking. meanwhile pirate warrior still has the highest winrates at every level of play, even though people run golakkas and not hungry crabs
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>>174529253
useless
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>>174529340
>Not playing Wild and highrolling Brann into Galvadon
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>>174529164
Are you being retarded on purpose?
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>>174529512
give list please
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>>174529253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elUVA0O93Oo
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>>174529442
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>>174529674
looks like someone is out of arguments
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>>174526914
Are you asking why his hammer is the size of a van door? You don't play other blizzard games do you?
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>>174529358
I guess so. I dunno, I don't play enough arena but I got 12 and 4 wins with my last two rogues.
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>Amaz : Lyra is only for smart people to use because it's required a lot thinking.

Is this true?
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>>174529773
http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/data-reaper-live-beta/
literally .01, but being wrong is being wrong. Murloc Paladin > Pirate Warrior

also
>Posts the DR
>Doesn't even properly read it, just looks at pictures like a toddler
>(you)
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>>174529907
play Lyra
play the sorc apprentice
play the green spells until the rope burns to the end
priest is now as brainless as rogue
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>>174529668
I don't have a deck for it. It's just something on my list of Wild memes to do. It's still literally:
>Turn 8 or later
>Play Brann Bronzebeard
>Play Galvadon
>Highroll Stealth, Windfury, and as many +3 attacks as possible, throw in a Divine Shield if need-be
>Well Met!
Since Seal of Champions is still available in Wild the Quest is also a lot easier to complete.
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>>174530015
Looks like someone's out of arguments
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>>174530015
this isn't and never will be funny
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>>174529907
it requires not milling yourself
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Threw this together to get 15 this season. Just went 20->15 only dropped 1 game taunt Warrior cause absolutely shit draws.

Just mulligan for 1s and 2s and win the game.
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Are 'sniff me' and 'cunny' the new best /hsg/ memes? Nothing really comes close and I've been here since WoToG
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Why did they remove the sorry emote when the thanks emote is 10 times worse?
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>>174530130
They are from FGG, mostly cause of Anime posters and Cammy.
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>>174530130
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>>174530130
>one guy forcing a meme
lel ok
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>>174530130
one man forced shit isn't a meme, sniffposter
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>>174530114
>that deck
>deadly shot
>ravasaur runt
>explosive trap
>FUCKING HYENA
>>
>Bought 15 packs
>No Leggo
> 1 (one) Epic

Did BlizJew forget to seed the cash packs with better cards?
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>>174530219
>posts forced meme
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>>174530219
>haven't seen insect posting in years
makes me sad
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>>174529945
oh shit guess I do suck cocks after all

still, they said it "might" be the strongest deck. it's an opinion, not a fact. and the fact that people care about countering pirates more than countering murlocs still stands
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>>174530257
>deadly to push more damage face instead of into taunts
>ravasaur for more beasts plus 2 mana 2/5 or 2 mana can't be targeted is bad
>2 mana deal 2 damage to all enemies is bad when pirate warrior, zoo, disco, and beast hunter exist
>Unleash Hyena isnt good; flood one drops for first four turns then trade small guys in for a 10/6 on turn 4 plus hero power

Git gud
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>against priest as paladin
>draw my tirion and lightlord in my mugillan
Phew
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>>174530417
*Plays Mind Vision*
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>>174530417
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>It's easier to win this brawl with Warlock by just not focusing on the quest
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>>174529358
warlock, rogue, mage, and priest are probably still the best in that order. Priest has a ton of insane arena cards now and might be top tier but I haven't played enough of it. Hunter is decent because crackling razormaw and macaw. The rest are total dogshit unless you get a godly draft.
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>>174530624
You mean right now? 50% of my matches are against Murloc Paladin
And every game they got the inquisitor into rockpool hunter into warleader
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>>174519594
Explain pros who make new accounts and use the standard decks and whatever they open to make it into legend.
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>Throw together secret hunter deck not expecting anything
>Secrets and unleash deal with all the fotm murloc faggots easily
>Easy enough to control the board against other decks with kill command, deathrattles, and hyenas
>Win 8 straight
>Only close games were against a mage who I was able to kill through ice block with explosive trap and a quest druid who would've killed me had I not gotten an insane Barnes -> Tundra Rhino -> 1 drop beast x2 Hero Power -> Explosive trap lethal play

Is my top secret donut steel original deck secretly Tier 0?? Am I a deck building GOD????
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>>174530624
Murloc paladin is one of, if not the most expensive deck in the game right now. It's never going to see as much play as pirate warrior.
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>>174530114
>No rhinos
Good luck getting to ten.
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>>174530768
at ranks that matter (5 and up), people are far less poor than you think
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>>174530624
What the cuck is this chart?
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>>174530797
I actually took Rhino out for Kodo. I never found a good time to play it
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>>174530748
please post list I miss Secret Hunter
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>>174530257
>He doesn't run hyena
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>>174530903
i forgot to mention these were rank 25 games
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>>174530843
America's next top cunny 2017 predictions
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>>174530661
Mage is cancer tier right now because they have so manny effective discover cards in arena.
I'd say mage rogue priest for top three.
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>>174530257
hyena is core you shieldbearer
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>move to wild to play mill rogue
>rank 25
>BTFO a guy that was clearly brand new to the game playing basic cards and not playing around anything
now i just feel bad. I didn't know these guys still existed.
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>>174530768
> the most expensive deck
It is average. It isn't cheap like meme range hunter and secret mage but compared to shit like control paladin that runs all class legendaries it is decent.
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>>174531081
he's a yuro mtg moron who thinks midrange paladin with the 8 murlocs = murloc paladin
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>>174531018
YOU'RE LYING.
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>>174531050
playing mill decks against new players is the best
they even thank you for letting them draw cards at first
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>>174531037
> primordial glyph
> into primordial glyph
> into pyroblast
> Well played.
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>>174531556
It's a great feeling
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>turn 2 10/10
Damn I got so outskilled!
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> coin fledging in arena as fast as possible
> opponent plays his own vicious fledging
What should you do in this situation?
Trade one for another or attack face?
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>>174531893
attack face
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>>174531836
Just discover a turn 3 polymorph, noob.
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the paladin is a fucking insult to mankind

this has to be the most atrociously awful archetype blizzard has ever created
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>>174531893
probably trade, if you have no way of buffing your own or killing his, why risk it, if you dont get windurry you are fucked
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>>174531972
I didn't. I wish I was more skilled
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>>174531893
When in doubt always attack face
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>>174531997
well met
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which utter dipshit thought trying to push discard strategies was a good idea when discard is purely random? you're already throwing away your own cards
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>>174531893
Have a good 3 drop?
Face.
Have nothing to play that turn?
Trade.
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anyone else just insta-concede to mages when not playing ladder? by far the most unfun class to play against in the game
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>>174532149
what idiot thought pushing discard was a good idea, when there have only been a total of 5 cards that benefit from it
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>>174531997
it's quite sad how paladin is tier one but has no theme other than
>lol murlocs

what a shit class
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>>174531997
>class
>archetype
I think you mean "midrange"
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>>174532207
I usually play Priest so no. The only one that sucks to play against is Waygate.
>>
reckful's stream when he was playing league:
>comfy social eating
>genuine commentary about life
>fun duo queue with friends
>slow chat
reckful's stream when he plays hearthstone:
>garbage music
>shilling
>hollow commentary
>leech
>chat spam
he was a sad cunt but at least an entertaining sad cunt
now he's just forsen 2.0 (aka literally worse than testicular cancer)
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>>174532207
> the most unfun class to play against
heh... greetings
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>>174532129
>>174531997
i mean the paladin tavern deck
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>>174532207
>by far the most unfun class to play against in the game
well met
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>>174532331
>watching a pedophile
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>>174532207
I used to auto concede against warriors until I stopped playing when LoE launched. Now I insta concede against Rune in Shadowverse.
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>>174532331
>league
>"social eating"
>commentary about anything that isn't the game
>aka literally cancer
What are you watching streams for?
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Classes from unfun to fun to play against
Mage > Warrior > Paladin > Priest > Hunter > Warlock > Druid > Shaman > Rogue
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I want to craft a Freeze Mage deck, have about 5.4k dust. Missing cards:

Archmage Antonidas
Alexstrazsa
Open the Waygate

Primordial Glyph x2
Doomsayer x2
Ice Block x2
Pyroblast x2
Cabalist's Tome x2
Blizzard x1 (Meh, this is a Rare)

So, I can craft 2 Legendaries and 5 Epics. What do?
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>>174532452
old reckful would've quested the cunny and cucked the grinch
now he's a whipped little bitch
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>>174532617
Which Mage decks are most unfun? Just Freeze?
Asking for a friend.
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>>174532617
>Sap :^)
>Sap :^)
>Sap again :^)
>Vanish :^)
>Turn 1 Innervate Innervate coin 6/6 or worse

>Fun to play against
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>>174532617
>priest not first
>rogue last

ha, caverns not good enough for you anymore valeerafag?
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>>174532345
At least Taunt Warrior gives the illusion of interactivity
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>>174532526
I watch streams because of the streamer. I usually don't give a shit about the game but he's boring as fuck when he plays hearthstone
even his wow streams were better than this
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>>174532683
>missing cards: entire deck
kys yourself

btw open the waygate is one of the worst cards in the entire game, don't even think about crafting that shit
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>>174532683
kys
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>>174531893
Face, pray for windfury into health or divine shield. Surprise, you're ahead.

To be fair, I don't know your hand at all. If you have a decent 3 drop, then it's better to trade and develop. If you have a shit hand, face and luck is the only way you win.
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Asking again since I got no replies last thread.
Which priest deck beats pirate warrior and quest rogue? Its literally all I'm facing now
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>>174532706
All mage decks are unfun.
Tempo and mech were at least somewhat exciting to play against since it's like pirate warrior on crack and beating it gave you satisfaction.
Playing through 6 secrets and wondering how many ice blocks and pyroblasts they rng'd is frustrating as fuck and you get nothing but a slight sense of relief when it's finally over.
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>>174532683
Build something else first. Start getting these later.
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>>174532683
One Pyroblast is enough, Cabalist's Tome is not necessary, it is better without Quest.
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>>174532915
Priest is too slow, dude. Midrange hunter (+crawler ofc) it's good vs that shit.
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>>174532937
but most of it is classic therefore safe craft
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QUEST COMPLETE
6 5/5's ON BOARD

FAIR
AND
BALANCED
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>>174532482
>>174532345
ill play against mr taunts on curve any fucking day of the week rather than lol random generation the class

this game would be so much better if jain just didn't exist it's insane
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>>174532683
Don't craft open the waygate, freeze mage is way better without it.
That means you also don't need cabbalists tome.
What you DO need is literally all the other cards except maybe one pyroblast
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>>174532915
No priest deck
Priest had a good run but got cucked, especially when Paladin became the best class
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>>174533045
>didn't clear 1/2's and 1/1s
your fault desu
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> this core card of tier 3 deck is the most broken card in the game since balance mistake that is uncounterable jade idol
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What hero to use for tavern brawl I've lost 5 brawls now
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>>174533045
just pyro equality bro
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>>174533040
JOKES ON FUCKING YOU
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>>174532928
>get keeps fucking geting ice block
>played the fuck around it by widdling him down to 1 hp
>JK DOESNT FUCKING MATTER BECAUSE THE MINUTE HIS ICE BLOCKS ARE GONE HE GOES FULL SOLITARE ANTONIDAS ALL INTO MY FACE

ONE THERAMORE BOMBING WASNT ENOUGH
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>>174533157
Warrior
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>>174532915
Purify.
Turn 1 cleric is a huge threat since she can trade up pretty intensely while drawing cards, either forcing them to hold back minions for a waraxe, coin out a southsea with first mate or just let you draw cards.
Hard mull for clerics and watchers, razorleafs are too slow, no point in holding a silence if you have nothing to silence.
Radiant Elemental is amazing if you manage to get it out turn 2 with a pw:s, I've even coined it out turn 1 and pw:s'd it sometimes.

I don't run Kabal talonpriests in my purify deck but they're good tech against aggro and still scale well into late game.
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>>174533162
super safe craft. you got all the dust back
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>>174533214
cheers
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>>174533254
Yeah, Purify is bullshit against aggro decks.
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>got 12 wins in arena yesterday
>my next 2 arena draft didn't have a single epic
the goys got onto me
good thing shitty drafts don't stop me from getting a decent amount of wins
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>>174533341
Not getting a watcher can be your death though.
If they ignore razorleaf and let you drop a shambler then you can usually recover though.
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>>174533254
Yeah I guess that probably is my best bet. I knew it was good against rogue, but I wasn't sure how well it would do against pirates.
Do you run the creature heavy version or the one that uses auchenai/ embrace the shadows?
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>Farm gold until enough for an arena run everyday
>0-3
>everytime

How do I get better at drafting boys?
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>>174532928
I mean like lists. Or are you just cherry picking random games and not really looking at things as a whole?
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How can I improve my shitty murloc paladin deck?
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Opponents have had perfect curves in 5 games now
When is my turn, Brode?
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>>174532937
I have Pirate Warrior, Quest Rogue, Midrange Cunter etc., all the cancer stuff.

>>174532962
>>174533112
Alex & Tony, 2 Ice Blocks, 2 Primordial Glyphs, 1 Pyroblast and maybe I Dust some trash legendaries for Doomsayers?
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>>174533584
once you pick up the deck blizzard intends you to play
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>>174533483
Use Memearena, it can carry you to 2-3 for sure.
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>>174533163
Just play counterspell
Just play flare
Just play explosive trap
Just play curse of rafaam
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>>174533527
Shift from aggro to midrange
Spikeridge steed, Tyrion, and the new 3/7 I can't remember
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>>174533694
no tirion in murloc anon
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>>174533527
> acidic swap ooze
Use pirate hate crab if you have one, there is also the basic murloc for 2 that summons another one, if you go all in here.
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>>174533735
some dude got rank 1 legend with a tirion list
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>>174533650
>just play 4 very specific cards that have no real use except for this one very specific situation

yeh thanks for the protip mister rank 1 legend
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>>174533608
> trash legendaries
yeah... like finja the flying star :^)
>>
OUT OF MY JUNGLE
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>>174533781
Why do Blizzard babies always cry about balance while refusing to do any counterplay....?

>Any of those cards except rafaam
>have no real use
???????
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>>174532207
>tfw just got a fireball of my babbling book while reading this
Thanks anon
Your salty post gave me good lucks
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>>174533781
> have no real use except for this one
explosive trap counters all aggro cancer, actually
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>"You nigger! God damn it!"
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>>174533863
Will there ever be a situation where this guy is viable?
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>>174533942
>>174533982
>implying i want to play a retarded hunter
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> warrior is rank 15-5 cancer
> hunter is rank 25-15 cancer
> paladin is rank 5-legend cancer
wtf is this some kind of grimy goons revenge
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>>174534094
Then play Eater of Secrets, shieldbearer.
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>>174533982
by buffing frothing to 10 attack or by doing nothing to murlocs?
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>>174534162
>play eater of secrets when only one class regularly uses secrets in this meta

HMMM
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>>174534163
> not playing both frothing and murlocs
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>>174533152
Control shitters are a funny bunch.
>>
>>174533152

gylph is still worse
>>
>Quest rogue plays vanish twice before even finishing the quest
>Against Glory of the new Sun deck

Wow, powerful deck you got there....not desperate at all.
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>>174534249
paladin uses secrets :^)
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>>174534249
> who is secret hunter
> who is hydrologist
rank 25 strategical decisions boys
>>
Okay the paladin deck is bad but the Druid one is straight up unplayable
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>>174533990
CmonBruh
>>
>Shaman is bad

is time to come back?
>>
>>174518661
Sooo which of these Paladin decks from metabomb is best? Never played Paladin so I dont have a lot of his cards,only ones i got from packs.
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>>174534063
>not transforming in the deck
>not popping out as Patches
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>>174533942
> counter play
when the system doesn't pair you against pirates when crawler in your deck and lets them kill you if you exclude it
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>>174528682
You're making a serious mistake. Arena is a meme blizzard shills push because it's a Casino where the vast majority of players lose gold/money.
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>>174534489
The one that is closest to what you can build, the paladin decks are expensive as fuck.
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>>174534586
I like to play arena sometimes, and since I need ungoro cards and usually average 5 wins it's okay.
It does take time though for each run.
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>>174534586
Arena actually pays you more than buying packs if you are decent enough to get at least 3 wins. Especially in a dust if you need it to meme crafts.
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>>174530730
They only broadcast their wins and delete the recordings of their losses.
>>
>Hunter's Bad Day

Poor guy
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>>174534063
Probably not
But then again, no one thought moroes would ever be viable
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>>174534864
Potion of madness is instawin against hunter
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>>174534249
hunters dont use secrets anymore. Its only for snagging redemptions and iceblocks now. still good enough to tech in, both of those are late game cards for redempt+tirion or the block before lethal so you got ample time to draw into it.
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>All these hunters on ladders.

Pretty much a free victory unless I get all of my late game in the starting hand.
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Is it worst meme deck right now?
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>>174530730
>>174534853
Shit I thought you said arena. Oh if we're talking about ranked, they literally dust every fucking thing they open that doesn't fit one netdeck. Easy. Now if you're not interested in dusting your entire fucking collection to prove a dumbass point nobody cares about, then sure. Most people aren't going to do that.
>>
>-7 stars
damn today was a good legend grind day
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>>174534964
You can reach rank 5 with decent free deck. Who cares about legend. The real skill mode is arena anyway.
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>>174532207
Yep and Priests. Not worth the hassle to complete my daily chore.
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If there was no forced tutorial I'd actually try right now to start a new account and get rank 5, I'm that bored
I hate the fucking tutorial
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>>174529151
>- So much RNG that winning or losing is almost completely out of my control

Wait

So you're telling me this warrior wasn't able to personally control the aim to skillfully snipe my warleader?
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>>174519052
In fact, Zoo lost it's most important tools.
No Dark Paddler, no Imp Gang Boss, not PO.

Seeing the tools that Warlock got, there was absolutely no reason to remove PO.
They probably did because of RNG. Getting Stealth and Windfury on the 4 drop that kills your own minion and then POing it would be pretty strong. Or even double POing it.

But then they should have just not printed that card since they killed Warlock for a single card that isn't even that good most of the times.
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>>174522628
kek
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>>174535373
>Not liking RNG
I won against a guy who played a hydra because my 5 arcane missiles hit said hydra even though there were 4 other possible targets on the board
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>>174535398
You can adapt many other cards into wind fury to be honest.
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>>174534809
>Arena actually pays you more than buying packs if you are decent enough to get at least 3 wins
This is flatly false. You have to hit 7 to go infinite, unless they've changed something.

>>174534713
This is literally the only reason to ever play arena. People get conned into playing it by blizzshills claiming they'll make more gold off of it though, and that's bullshit.

>>174535157
Now that's true. The only play in this game that requires any skill is arena. Too bad it's so fucking RNG that skill practically doesn't matter there either unless you've giving blizrael money, then they alter your matchmaking :^).
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>Good decks just vomit minions or play quest on curve

That sucks, I was hoping elementals would be good.
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>>174535596
3 wins gives you the pack and 50 gold man. The other guy wasnt saying getting 150 gold AND a pack.
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>>174535529
Ouch.
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>>174535539
What other card that can actually double adapt does Warlock run?
Just adapting a minion windfury doesn't mean much when it needs to survive.

Non of the added minions warrant the removal of PO.
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>>174535720
They've upped the rewards then. Back when I bothered with the con job that is arena, the rewards for 3 wins were 1 pack, 25-35 gold and one random either:

- 20-25 gold
- 20-25 dust
- One common card
- or One rare card
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zoo is by far the most degenerate deck because it goes against the fundamental rule that aggro decks should have fuel and should be able to run out of it

i am glad warlock is in the shitter and i hope it gets a very prolonged stay there until blizzard realizes warlock should be a control class
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>>174535840
> can actually double adapt
Vicious Memeling :^)
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>>174535678
Hemet Mage doesn't do either of those and it's good.
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>>174535894
1 pack + 25-35 gold + 20-25 gold = around 150 gold.
In theory 20 dust is > 20 gold.

All this is very specific stuff. Maybe some people grinf arena and average, I dunno, 3-4 wins, and were better off playing on ladder getting the 10 gold per 3 wins, since arena does not give you that.
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>>174536031
http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Arena#Claiming_rewards

Yeah, I was about to say. You fucking lied. It hasn't changed at all. That's only IF you get the gold, which you literally have a 25% of.
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>>174536019
Why didn't you flamestrike or frost nova doomsayer or discover a felfire and so on?? git gud
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>>174535894
They actually added one pack to random rewards. It is quite rare, but I got it from time to time.
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>>174535894
Arena Rewards
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>>174536092
And you have 50% chance of getting dust or rare card, which is worth more than gold I think.
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>>174535529
>Not liking when bullshit happens that allows the less skilled player to win

Gee I wonder why someone wouldn't like that.

Honestly the only reason why I still play this piece of shit is because of sunken cost fallacy (have been f2p since naxx, built up a large collection over that time) and because the Gwent people still haven't sent me a closed beta key yet.

I wish Blizzard and WotC would team up and take all of the rules and shit that's already in MTGO and have Blizzard be responsible for nothing but the polish and graphics and sounds and give it a proper f2p model, it'd be perfect. Just make MTGO not look like shit and make it f2p. I'm so sick of Jewzzard having a monopoly on this fucking genre.
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>murloc paladin is better than the damn murloc quest
Why can't murloc shaman ever be a thing?
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>>174536156
Oh yeah, I guess they did. How generous of them.

>>174536204
Yeah, I can read. I posted a link. I just didn't read down to the pack.

>>174536212
Wrong.
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>>174535678
>introduce elementals
>bench best elemental
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i seriously dont understand how the fuck taunt warrior wins a match

it just seems awful to me
you play reactive low attack minions the entire game and just hope you don't run out of them before the enemy runs of fuel
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>>174536267
I always thought dust is worth more than gold, given the average pack worth.
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Which is the most oppressive 1-drop and why is it Northshire Cleric?
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>>174536214
It sounds like you should play Shadowverse. You get so much free shit that it doesn't matter how much money you've sunk in other games.
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>>174536260
> Why can't murloc shaman ever be a thing?
Because people doesn't care about it? It isn't that bad, honestly.
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>>174536339
Did you forget to put this card in your deck?
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>>174536343
Absolutely not. Cards are always worth more than dust.
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>>174535943
Zoo is also the slowest aggro deck the game has ever seen, comparable to midrange in therms of how fast it deals with your opponent.
On top of that Zoo is one of the most skill intensive decks in the game and has enough counters in the game.

It was the most fair good deck that the game has ever seen.

Also Warlock will never be a good control class without some insane heal like Reno. You can't use your control tools as freely as the other control classes because they actually have huge downsides for you, often dealing not only with the opponent's board but with your own as well. You deal insane amount of self damage with many of your control tools and all your stuff works only early.

Reno allowed warlock to play greedy and still live long enough. Jaraxxus isn't enough because literally every single class can burst you down the moment you get below 10 health.

The time where a 8/8 taunt was enough to keep you safe is long gone and will never come back. If you can't heal, gain insane amount of armor or become invulnerable, you can't play control.
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>>174536351

turn 1 into heropower draw is strong but doesnt add to field. at that point, flood board and punish his nothing turn 2.
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>>174536502
I just googled and looks like average dust pack is 98 or something, I had the wrong idea.
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>>174536343
If you have zero expansion cards, pack is like 260 dust. In the end of expansion one pack is 40 dust.
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Has anyone ever actually considered venture co. mercenary for aggro murlocadin?

I'm a fairly budget-minded player since I'm f2p and was considering sea giant for awhile when I remember this motherfucker. I mean, no one plays BGH anymore and the drawback seems almost non-existant since it tops out your curve, so it's basically just a 7/6 for 5 mana. If it dies you just play your shit again and if it lives you probably win. It also doesn't have a drawback that could potentially get you killed like bittertide does. I also don't own any bittertides because fuck you brode
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>>174536145
I was a 1 health so I had to make it a draw or lose. I was 100% sure it was Eye for an Eye since you played 4 of the Hydrologist in total. There is no way he didn't pick it, but there wasn't a single way around it. So I just Pyro'd him to make sure we both die at least.
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>>174536670
it's fucking shit
your deck is pure minions you dumb cunt
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>>174536437

SV is gay pedo weeb shit, no thanks. Literally just waiting on that Gwent key, it already has over 100k ACTIVE players in the closed beta alone which is crazy, and they have a really good team behind it that actually gives a shit and isn't a bunch of lazy greedy fucks. There's next to no RNG in it and they're taking the competitive scene and balancing of the classes and cards very seriously.

Everything I've seen about it thus far has me hype. There's a reason why people like lifecoach and superjj are quitting HS and moving over to Gwent instead, especially once it fully releases.
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>>174536670
I dunno, seems pretty desperate. I think you are better with board buffing cards like this one?
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>>174536591
So it's said. Even that is a serious overestimate though, unless you're dusting every single pack you open, including all your epics, goldens and legendaries, which literally nobody, not even the Spike blizzshills cancering up the game do. The actual average dust for a pack is like 5-15 if you're not a meth addict.
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>>174536670
just play Hydra 5 mana 8/8
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>>174536523
>On top of that Zoo is one of the most skill intensive decks in the game

It's no where near the level of pirate warrior, the true most skill intensive deck.
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>>174536891
>gay pedo
It's all girls though. I mean seriously. There is a very intentional over-representation of females in that game.
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>>174532617
>Shaman
>Rogue
>fun to play against
Are you serious, m8?
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>>174536670
If you need a big minion, you can cast blessing of emperors on your Murloc.
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>>174536523
>tap first
>care about placement
>pray knife juggler gives you good rng
whoa so SKILL intensive
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>>174537057

Gay as in lame, anon. Everything I've seen from it leads me to believe it's basically Hearthstone-lite anyways, it's not really a serious deviation (in a good way) like Gwent is.
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>>174523474
>no giants
It's shit
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>>174536351
>unstable portal for spells

It's like they learned nothing...
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>>174537268
>Hearthstone-lite
A good description.
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>>174525060
Murloc and midrange paladin are everywhere from rank 5 onwards, nothing is hidden
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>>174536969
Except I wasn't sarcastic.

Unlike any other aggro, Zoo requires you to perfectly understand your matchup, positioning is extremely important and knowing when to trade and when to go face is what makes or breaks the deck. Despite your hero power you can't just repopulate your board like idiots here think since you can most of the times get 2 minions on the board per turn. 2 cheap minions which can't deal with a single midgame threat.

Which is why it was important to make the right decision of when to use your buffs for proper trading.

>>174537194
>tap first
Fucks up your if you do it on the wrong turns since current Zoo runs a shitload of discards and tapping first isn't always good.
>care about placement
Which is more than most decks need to care about. Especially most aggro decks right now. Which is the reason why pretty much everyone except good Zoo player got punished with Meteor and the hunter's 2 mana spells when the expansion came out.
>pray knife juggler gives you good rng
Knife Juggler isn't even run in many Zoo decks since the rotation. Some people are trying it again in Disco zoo but more and more people are dropping it again since it can't trade up and will often just trade down. Doesn't help you when dropped on curve except for potentially 1 more damage on your next turn.
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>>174537405
>Hearthstone-lite
ESL is better one. The pure skill based game.
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>>174537592
I really like Eternal muh Dinosaurs, except for the mana issues.
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>>174537517
They aren't bullshit decks like shaman 2016 though
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How vital is patches in quest rogue?
I could craft it but I really don't wanna
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>>174538148
if youre a get to rank 5 player you can do without it
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>>174536786

My feeling was that you'd already have dropped most if not all of your minions by turn 5.
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>Stuck at 6-8 for 4 days

I know I'm bad but its fucking annoying.
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>>174518661
>paladin has returned from Tier 5 hell
What a time to be alive
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>>174538636
Yeah, a fucking shit time
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>craft 2 bittertides because fuck it
>first game with them in the deck

W E L P
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>>174539009
this card seems good on paper but for me always seems disappointing

maybe cause of all the taunts dont know really
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>>174539381

Seems good in murlocs, I've mostly been looking for something to stomp people who are able to clear my board in the first 4 turns of the game.
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>>174536551
>punish his nothing turn 2.

And how will you populate the board with 1-2 mana (coin)? He'll slap your 1-drop and draw a card, it's insane.

>>174537390
Objectively the best card ever printed.
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Rate my OC bros
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>>174525825
yuro /hsg/ does not have these cards.
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>>174539603
ass/10
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>>174539527
buff the 1drop with warleader and kill the northshire?
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Defend this.
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>Paladin lists are expensive as fuck
>The tech cards against the top tier decks right now are all epics

Everything requires so many epics and at minimum a few legendaries. Feels poor man.
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>>174539909
>can craft tirion and lightlord
>still would need tarim and 4 more epics
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>>174539603
do people not realize buffs are inherently shit because you spend 2 cards on something that gets answered with 1
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>>174539381
>>174539476

See now it literally won me the game even though I got fucked yet again with it being in my opening goddamn hand. It's nice because it means they have to deal with all of my murlocs AND a fucking fel reaver basically, and since I'm aggro the drawback is pretty much non-existant.

The guy threw 7 points worth of burn into it before conceding. Seems like there are very few situations where it would actually backfire, having a ton of 1/1's in an aggressive deck is very uncommon, playing around unleash doesn't seem too difficult since I feel like it's a "okay you spent all of your resources dealing with my murlocs now can you also kill an 8/8" sort of card, i.e. it'd probably drop after they used an unleash and traded a bunch I'd imagine, and then everyone else has like 1 card that can deal with it like sap/peacekeeper/sw:d and they either have it immediately or lose pretty much.
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Rate my Priest card!!
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>>174540109

So... Paladin is new CW now?
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what the FUCK does this say
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>>174538920
Fuck you, priest shitter
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>>174539901
its better than temposhits list
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>>174540481
Excuse me
>>
uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
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>>174540481
Eureka, I've done it!

>>174540635
Hydrologist is secretly Sludge Belcher?
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>>174540216
Remember some people thought Galvadon would be busted as hell? Timmies never learn.
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>>174539603
Garbage
7 mana makes it impossible to combo
Even if you pull it off the effect is not worth it
Stand alone it doesn't do anything
0/10 won't even see play in meme decks
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>>174540479
i think its worse 2bh cause a lot of the cards in the warrior lists could be used elsewhere as well
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>>174540497
Kill yourself Uther
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>>174540216
>m-muh card advantage! 2 for 1s!
you play a game as grotesquely tempo-based as hearthstone and you're still on that magic 101 shit? fuck off
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>>174540780
Clever girl
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>>174540481
>yo nigger, god damnit
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>>174540932
But I'm a boy.
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>>174540851
I rather kill you, nigger priest
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>>174540867
except with that card you lose both card advantage and tempo
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>>174540481
>Fuck me onichan
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>>174540867
That would make sense if the card wasn't at 7 mana making it a card that can only be played on value oriented decks. On top of that, it loses you not just value but tempo as well since the opponent will use a cheap hard removal to deal with it and then summon a minion of his own.
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>>174540867
why do you think the only good buffs are the ones who come with a body attached
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>try new tavern brawl when it was first available
>pretty fun, everyone's trying all the different classes
>come back since it was pretty fun
>literally EVERYONE is choosing warrior exclusively
Wow, you guys really do non-ironically hate fun, don't you?
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>>174541263
I have yet to try Taunt Warrior once.
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Un goro feels like it has an unusually high number of playable epics. I had so much dust when it came out I crafted most of the legendaries but now I wish I did epics instead
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>>174519375
did she actually won?
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how is this card not broken
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>be me
>your favourite class in wow was paladin
>Uther was your favourite character from W3
>start play hearthstone during BRM
>you always wanted to play paladin but because of being f2p you coudn't play Secret Paladin
>eventually it ended with some home made midrange paladin which took me to rank 5 few times
>after standard hit paladin was almost unplayable/ too expenisve
>during Old Gods craft anyfin pal
>NOW you almost have dust for full Control Pall(I have crafted few bad decks like quest mage and ele shaman because I coudn't wait)
>It is almost Well Met time
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this card is fucking broken,what were they thinking?
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>>174541365
Liar.
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>>174541472
just silence
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>>174541472
>+2 damage for 6 mana
>broken
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>>174541578
?
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>>174541472
This is the only playable buff in pally deck because it is buff + minion

really make you think
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>>174541758
?
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>>174541483
I would never go on the internet and lie. What's the point of lying to bots on a Chinese cartoon forum.
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>>174541758
?
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>>174541789
>>174541843
???
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in what universe is this card even remotely balanced

hell in what world is mage remotely balanced in this expansion
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>>174541843
>>174541892
>>174541789
>>174541758
?
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>>174541785
It's also a great pick from Ivory Knight.
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>>174541949
!
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>>174541942
but mage is bad now
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I am bored and not getting anywhere. What's a FUN deck?
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>watching a streamer
>massive winstreak with RNG luck out the ass, huge combos, cancer faggotry abound
>get beat by one super unlucky RNG play
>rages like mad
>instantly goes to deck list and starts switching stuff out saying the deck sucks

Why?
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>>174541892
Did you get Purified or something?
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>>174542003
Pirate Warrior
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>>174542008
>cancer faggotry abound
what did he mean by this
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>>174542008

Which one? Also confirmation bias or something like that.
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>>174542139
>what did he mean by this
what did he mean by this
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>>174541785

not only that it stops the hyper aggro really well. Its 12 health to smack through
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>>174541446
>healing to 40 health isn't broken though!

Fuck off - you were greedy vs a Taunt Warrior, where you could guarantee he had a Dirty Rat waiting for that moment.

Should have just healed to 40 as soon as you got it

netdecker/10
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>>174539603
make her ass fatter ffs
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>>174542240
>healing to 40 health isn't broken though!
yeah it isn't
your point?
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This card is absolutely based
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>>174542215
>what did he mean by this
what did she mean by this
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>>174541785
buffs really are not as bad as people say.
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>want to play murloc or control paladin
>no tarim or finja
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>>174542487
how many playable ones are there that dont cycle a card
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Is it safe to dust all C'thun cards?
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>>174542507
>want to play deck
>don't have cards to make deck

everytime
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>>174542487
Name buffs in tier 1-2 decks besides Steed, BoK and PWS
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>>174542864
But I have all the other cards in the game ever.
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>>174542702
don't dust shit, wild is going to be taking over
dusting wild cards is just a horrible move, you keep losing more and more dust until the initial dust gain is negligible
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>>174543058
>wild is going to be taking over
laugh
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>>174542425
until you walk into poison adapt
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>>174543058
>wild
Stopped reading there.
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>>174542702
Yes.

>>174543058
C'Thun is unplayable no matter which mode you play in.

>play vanilla minions
>die turn 5-6-7
>even if you reach turn 10 C'Thun will be in your deck still
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>>174543058
Top kek,also I dont have any Naxx or GvG cards so I dont plan to play wild ever.
>>
>play 2 ivory knights
>1 gets avenging wrath
>1 gets dinosize

I fucking love this card, discover makes it super consistent.
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>>174543115
>>174543192
Laugh as hard as you want, dudes, a few more expansions you guys are going to regret it
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>>174543645
then i'll stop playing
simple as that
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>>174543702
I think that's the best move honestly, because keeping up with this cancer is going to be impossible at this rate
I dunno, maybe the new single player missions or something?
>>
>a few days ago anon suggests letting people test deck recipes
>new brawl is literally just the un'goro deck recipes
devs confirmed browsing /hsg/, why didn't you guys put the mage quest in their deck
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>>174543817
you're delusional if you don't think brawls aren't planned months ahead
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>>174543817
They did this with the other expansions too though
The only one they did it correctly was TGT, though, where you get to try the decks before they're in the game
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>>174543645
>WILD IS GOING TO BE GOOD MEME

just because it works with MtG, it doesn't mean it will work here, dumbass
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>>174543792
not that guy but i've been f2p since naxx and do okay, i'll play until being f2p doing my dailies and arena is no longer feasible.

i never give blizz any money so i can't lose. gwent is also looking really nice with a great f2p model that is very generous.
>>
ELEVEN (11) (XI) (01011) (0x0B) WINS
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>>174542000
freeze mage is a tier 1 deck famalam
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>>174544071
I think I've had worse for 12 wins.
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>>174544071
>golden common is a reward for 11 wins
brode why
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>>174544071
was it worth your time?

i mean ffs hearthstone is RNG enough without making even the deck you get RNG as fuck too, are you a masochist or something?
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>>174544087
>loses to paladin
>loses to taunt warrior
Yeaaaah no.
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>>174544121
>>174544071
Found it, atleast I think it is worse
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>>174544010
I never brought up mtg, but I think the format is going to get some support, either way dusting your set for 1/4th of it's value is not a smart decision, you're locking yourself out of the mode forever, when you keep doing that for multiple expansions you end up with much less dust than you started with, 1/4th of 1/4th of 1/4th...
I guess maybe if you haven't played for that long and wild is definitely not an option it's a good idea to just stick to standard

>>174544048
that's a pretty good move, good on you for not paying them
I'm still hoping really hard for the single player stuff
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>>174544189
I like some RNG. Gwent is boring because it has practically none. But I agree Hearthstone arena is quite absurd sometimes. I still prefer a format where basically every card appears and you can experience all sort of weird interactions rather than a closed format where you only ever see 3~4 different decks.
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>>174544235
it beats taunt warrior usually
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>>174544481
But how? Armor up, shield block, alley armorsmith
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>>174542507
> want to play murloc
> lack half of relevant murlocs
> make deck anyway
> climb to rank 10
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Is miracle rogue really tier 1?
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>>174544685
No
Freeze Mage, Taunt Warrior, Midrange and Murloc Paladin are
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>>174544419
I feel that Arena now is more RNG than before standard only rotation. Shit that sometimes happens here is totally unbelievable.
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>>174544685

only for fedoras
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>>174544564
bunch of freezes into alex pyroblast pyroblast pyroblast(created by primordial glyph) pyroblast(created by primordial glyph)
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>>174544901
so i definitely can't win
>pick cone, spellbender or flame geyser xd
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>>174544978
Most of them don't actually play shield blocks. Alley armorsmith gets frozen a bunch and cleared, it's not like mage has a better use for aoe in this matchup
I just checked the stats, freeze does in fact beat taunt warrior and gets btfo by pirates(still)
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>>174544361
Oh shit that's pretty terrible. Brode is a true criminal.
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>>174544564
as long as you kill the alley armorsmiths none of that is enough compared to 4 every turn from justicar

plus taunt warrior puts very little pressure on the freeze mage until they do their shitty quest which takes a long time
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>>174544762
>>174544840
B-but on all hearthstone deck pages it says it is
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>>174545105
Sometimes it's good though, the only thing that sucks alot really is the golden commons.
I've never gotten a legendary from arena rewards directly.
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>>174545167
all hearthstone pages are made by retards
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>>174544189
Lets say you finish your quest and win 11 games in a row in ranked.
You get 30 gold plus your average 55 gold from the quest. So 80 gold.

He paid 150 gold. Got 295 gold, 50 dust and a pack.
He got 245 gold worth of rewards for 11 wins, 3 times as much as you did in ranked.

I think it was worth his time.
Also I'm pretty sure that is the low end of the 11 wins rewards.
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>get to rank 4
>lose all interest to play the game
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>>174545321
Bye
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Someone sell me on why Sunkeeper Tarim is a good legendary. I think he's trash, honestly. He's only good if you have a huge board which means he's incredibly win more. Maybe if you had something like Thalnos out already, you play Tarim, and you Consecrate, then he can be good, but again he's really only ever good in situations where you're in a MUCH better position than your opponent. 3/3s aren't too hard to get rid of either in terms of mass removal, so I just don't see the appeal of the card.
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>>174545356
fuck you
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>>174545296
> Lets say you finish your quest
Quests can be done in the arena, actually.
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>>174544361
Now this is highway robbery and someone needs to be thrown behind bars.
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>>174545380
Your oponent has a huge minion and you have a token or whatever alive.
It happens very often.
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>>174545380
> He's only good if you have a huge board
You are lost as Paladin if there is no board anyway.
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>>174545412
I know, but it's not as likely since you can't just pick the class you have the quest for. I was just giving an example where even with the quest, 11 wins in arena is always fucking worth it. Even when you low role on the rewards. Rage inducing but worth it.

>>174545380
>hero power
>Tarim
>your silver hand now trades perfectly with any of the huge minions your opponent had
>on curve you force your opponent to trade his 3 minions for 1 of yours.
>can be played up to 3 times because Stonehill Defender is basically Battlecry: Discover Tirion or Tarim.
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>>174545380

>win more

the strongest part of it is equalizing trades on your terms, you don't play it solely for the damage buff like quartermaster but that's another option that's on the table if you have it in your deck

it's flexible, which makes it better than most class legendary cards
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>>174545225
as opposed to this thread that is manned by geniuses?
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>>174545380
this isnt the old paladin list where you just drop doomsayers and wait to pyro equality
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>>174545380
oh your opponent didn't clear your tokens? whoops shame on him
oh your opponent has a 4/8 taunt and you have a 1/1 guy? a shame they can 1:1 trade now
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>>174545642
yes we are all experts of our rank 15 domain
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>>174545672
never happens in actual game
waste your dust on shit cast as much as you want retards
i will craft real good cards like elise and mosh
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>>174545787
>never happens in actual game
happens all the fucking time
i can't fucking clear all small murlocs and tokens behind the taunts
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>>174545787
>>
Good decks to ladder with?

I see that pally is finally tier 1 and I was wondering if it's either aggro or midrange (or it doesn't matter as long as it has the murloc package)

No taunt/pirate warrior suggestions , I like to play midrange-ish to control archetype decks.
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>>174545787
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>>174545380
You can use it to trade your shitty tokens with your opponent's big guys. With no help from other sources of damage, he alone can trade with 3 Tarim-ized opponent's minion. He can also double up as a pseudo-quartermaster to act as a finisher/tempo swing if you have a board of weenies. He's good. Not only that, he's also versatile. Just try it man, play stonehill Defenders, you will eventually discover it and try it for yourself, then you'll understand.
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>>174545787
>never happens
>good
>mosh
what?
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>>174545992
The most broken deck of them all, crystal rogue.
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>>174546083
Gave it a shot , I don't enjoy playing it.
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>>174545787
Oh, he's a cucktrol player, no wonder he doesn't understand shit.
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>>174546045
> discover random paladin legendary
Nice balance, Ban Brode.
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>>174545787
>enemy never play 4/8 taunt
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>>174545220
>tfw got a legendary from a 2-3 arena run a few years ago
it was anubarak
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>>174545380
>I think he's trash

Well, you're trash. He's literally the best legendary of the set by far.
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>>174546083
>This is what cucktrol players actually believe
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>>174546357
> play arena
> offered cards are barely playable
> opponents have insane greed value
> end 0-3
> open pack
> LEGENDARY CARD
I am pretty sure that quality of your arena pack is reverse to quality of your arena run.
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>>174546615
Got this from a 11 run
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>>174546754
How do you even do runs like that?
Inb4 git gud because I know that's bullshit, especially for arena.
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>>174546754
this is pretty based
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>>174546230

>get out of mPUT YOUR FAITH IN THE LIGHT
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>>174546879
>good hero
>good draft
>shitty oponents
>all around luck

Get has many of the above points as possible

>>174546920
Yeah I still have that bad boy even though I got a regular one
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>>174546879
Git gud and git lucky
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>tfw you realize there is now a non aggro Warrior deck that doesnt run Grom
Where did it all go wrong bros
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>>174546987
I knew it.
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>>174547048
Forgot to mention draft a curve according to your hero and deck
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>>174545494
>>174545613
>>174545672
>>174546045
Most opponents I play against aren't retarded and don't leave my tokens alive. The card becomes so much worse if they do that, it's insane.

I've gotten him a few times from Stonehill Defender in my Elemental Pally/spoiler] deck and I've never ever found a good time to play it when I could have played something else.
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>>174547130
Okay.
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>>174518661
Should I craft quest rogue? It seems like a fun deck.
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>>174547257
Maybe I've just been unlucky with my situations. I can see him being okay when he can't actually kill off a token and he only has like 1-2 monsters on board, then he is alright, but I think Paladin probably has better cards to play instead of it. I would craft Elise before I would craft Tarim, the anon who says he's the best Legendary of the set is high as fuck.
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>>174538636
>paladin skin is a filthy knife ear
>not a beautiful purple goddess.
mistakes were made.
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>>174547361
Yesno
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>>174547130
What can I say, I will still keep playing my sexy golden Tarim on my cruise to legend even if an anon on a chinese cartoons board thinks he is shit.
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>>174547414
Same goes for priest
Yes yes
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>>174547361

It's 1600 dust to play a horrible deck, I really regret crafting it.
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>>174547372
elise is total dumpster though
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>>174547361
It is to me, but some people don't like it. If you want to have a feeling try playing the brawl, the deck is very badly optimized but you will still get an idea on how it works and see if you can enjoy it.
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>>174546615
I didnt get the legendary from the pack, it was just straight up one of the rewards
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>>174546230
In exchange you have to play Silverback patriarch, one of the worst cards in the game.
What are you whining about?
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>crafted maybe 15 legendaries since Hearthstone released
>the only one I regret is Don Han'cho

What did I mean by this?
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>>174547580
Is she really? She's a solid 5 drop that also can get you some insane late game advantage. Of course it's always possible you get trash from the pack, but that's the nature of RNG I suppose. People have won off that damn card because they played it turn 5, drew into it on turn 7, and comboed the fuck out of me with Lyra.
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>>174547372
> Tarim
> not the best
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>>174547607
The brawl version seemed really inconsistent. I dont think id get stuck with a hand full of spells half the time with a creature heavy list.
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>>174544369
You don't understand. You're arguing with a fucking blizzdrone. These morons dust their entire collections for one meme deck so they can grind on ranked and consider this "normal" for a card game because they've never played any other.
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>>174547832
Just because a deck runs a card does not make said card good. People are just running it because it's a popular list and people netdeck like the retards they are.
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>>174546357
>>174546615
>>174546754
Found the screencap.

I guess the number of wins was higher than I rememeber lol
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>>174547798
yeah that's great in arena. card advantage doesn't matter in real hearthstone
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>>174547832
>tfw I've been telling /hsg/ he was the best legendary out of Un'goro since a few days into the expansion

Y'ALL DIDN'T BELIEVE ME

APOLOGIZE
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>>174547798
In paladin or warrior it's broken. Better than Loatheb ever was.

The only time it's ever bad is against mage since the chance you draw a heal is almost nonexistent.
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>60 packs purchase cause really want to get into it
>not a single legendary or quest

Can someone hug me?
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>>174548198
>having that much disposable income
Nah fuck you m7
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>>174547979
Tarim is a 3 for 1 Keeper of uldaman with taunt for 2 more cost.
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>>174548005
As a Tempo play, it's not terrible. It's a solid 5 drop. Are you saying that Stonehill Defender is also shit, even though it's garbage for tempo?
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>>174547979
Are you just being a contrarian for the sake of It? The card is good. Statistics prove he's good. Personal experiences prove he's good. You're literally the only retard that think he is bad. Maybe someone is wrong here.
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>>174548198

>lying
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>>174548198
>lying on a chineese cartoon forum
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>>174548273
Crime pays

lots of good epics though, my mage and priest got strong
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>>174547607
>>174547434
>>174547537
Not sure if anyone here plays Magic the Gathering, but I play ad nauseam combo and have played it for years. The two decks seem similar to eachother.
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>>174544071
>>174544361
Arena's fucking disgusting.

>>174545220
That reward is absurdly rare. I'm starting to get the distinct impression that blizzdrones are all gambling addicts.

>>174545296
>I think it was worth his time.
Yeah, except there's a part that blizzshills always forget to mention:

1: Most arena runs are below 3 wins, which doesn't pay out
2: The stress of arena is not worth just grinding in casual/ranked instead for almost certainly better rewards

GAMBLING. ADDICTS.
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>>174548391
>>174548357
>say lying here makes no sense
>actually 100% right

thx
like i would bother drawing pubes if i wasn't really triggered
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>>174548357
>>174548391
Guys what if he only bought 15 of each pack type :^))))))
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>>174547798
I justed played a game that went to fatigue, where elise was the winning factor for my opponent
Elise is reasonably statted, and the pack is an insane topdeck at every point, so it's a decent arena card at least
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>>174548276
I did say I could have just been unlucky with my situations, but my own personal experiences have led to me to believe he's shit. I'm not wrong with what I said though, I legitimately think most people are only playing Tarim because he's a new legendary and popular streamers have been using it. Just because a deck wins a lot doesn't mean every single card in it is top tier, it means that the deck overall is strong. Tarim isn't winning those games, the rest of the deck is.
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>>174542507
Apparently Blizzard really doesn't want me to play Paladin. I got a good haul from my Un'Goro packs, so I'm not even mad. Just weird.
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>>174546879
Literally just dumb luck. How do people win the lottery?
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>>174548295
it's a vanilla 5/5 more often than not
that's SHIT
defender gives great cards in paladin and synergizes with warrior quest. outside these classes it's shit too
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>>174548606
Tarim is used in every paladin deck though, even the more aggro variants cut Tirion for Tarim
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>>174548468
>Most arena runs are below 3 wins, which doesn't pay out
Literally impossible. 50% of all arena runs are 3 or less wins.
>The stress of arena is not worth just grinding in casual/ranked instead for almost certainly better rewards
Not everyone is stressed out by a children's card game like you and you break even on 3 wins making it not that hard.
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Can anyone fill me in why reddit has such a hate boner for Amaz. What did he even do to them? The reddit streamers like Kripp, toast and reynad are always filled with people trashing Amaz in chat. While streamers reddit doesn't like such as forsen are neutral or pro Amaz.

Is it just due to the fact reynad shit talks him all the time and reddit loves sucking reynad salty dick.
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>>174548579
I've only opened 2 legendaries from 101 packs. Happens if you don't just buy the exact same set over and over until your eyes bleed.

>>174548973
>Literally impossible. 50% of all arena runs are 3 or less wins.
Well something like that. It's low, regardless. Most people are NOT breaking even with arena.

>Not everyone
Ignored.
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>>174518661

>try to finish my quest in casual

>its full of top tier netdecks

????
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Should I craft Miracle Rogue /hsg/?
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>>174549142
50% of all player are breaking even, 50% aren't.

>Ignored
Nice argument.
Seek help if a game triggers you this much.
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>>174549238
Hearthstone players hate fun.
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>>174548468
> Most arena runs are below 3 wins
> Average number of wins can't be below 3
>>
is there a build that will ever make quest warlock decent?
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>>174549070
Well, there's the scamaz meme since he gave seats in a tournament he was responsible for to popular streamers instead of the players who qualified
Also, Kripp seems to shittalk him as well from time to time
>>
fuck you memers
miracle priest is not good
LYRA IS NOT GOOD
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>>174548468
> The stress of arena
It's less stressful than constructed.
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>>174549418
How dare you talk like that about my waifu
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>>174549338
that's completely possible

for example, if 25% of players go 6-3 and the other 75% go 2-3
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>>174549351
maybe next expansion
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>>174549070
Boring, screeching, faker than female orgasms in porn.
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>>174549338
>>174549557
It would be theorethically possible if arena matchmaking didn't work the way it does and matched people on random.


However since Arena matches people with the same number of wins/loses, that's not possible. Pics related. It's easy to calculate how many people make it to how many wins.
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So... Who is most /hsg/ streamer? Is it Reynerd?
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>>174549351
Still waiting for a card that lets you choose your discards
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>>174549865
>has troubles reaching legend every season
>hates his life
>is a salty piece of shit
If that's not /hsg/ in a nutshell I don't know
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>>174549896
Not gonna happen for at least 1 more rotation until Silverware Golem rotates out. Probably 2 until the new lego rotates out as well.
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Does anyone else enjoy watching streamers just for them to lose? It justifies my decision not to grind this game since I'll just queue into freeze mage or quest rogue and lose.
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>>174549839
Average is below 3 right? Any player can only "give" 3 defeats, but people reaching 12 wins will not "give" all their possible defeats away.
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>>174549270
>Me, therefore point
Nope. A game shouldn't be defined by its worst players. It should cater to its majority. And the majority neither like, nor profit from Arena. Sorry, you fucking lose and you're a sociopath.
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>>174550250
average is exactly 3

learn to read yuro cunt
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I didn't face any Rogues today. Hunter is a pain to play against. I can't remove everything.
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>>174549445
But not than casual after you concede five times to lower your mm rank.
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>>174550347
kys desu senpai
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Has the meta settled yet? Is it safe to craft plant rogue?
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>>174550472
At this rate it won't settle for a long time.

Meta is changing every week, if not every day
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>>174550347
I dont understand how that can be possible, giving people going 12-0, 12-1 and 12-2
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>>174550472

The meta will change again once people catch on to my miracle warrior
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>>174550629
>>174550472
I would argue the meta will never settle. The three best decks in the format are taunt warrior, miracle rogue, and one of the aggro decks (its not clear which yet); the meta will always shift based on which of these three decks are the best at the moment. At the moment, aggro is the clear best deck, so expect to see taunt warrior soon become best again.
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>Try to see if I could use the Rogue quest to make new archetypes

>Rogue doesn't have any control finishers except maybe possibly Cthun maybe Cthun Rogue can finally happen, Cthun starts off 6/6 so if he becomes a 5/5 he only loses 1/1 stats, that's nothing

>mfw I see that he actually LOSES ALL OF HIS buffs from before you cast the quest prize

For fuck's sake Rogue is never ever going to have an archetype that isn't cheating out high attack charge minions NEVER EVER
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>>174550629
this

midrange hunter is slowly becoming irrelevant since taunt warriors are becoming more common, paladin elemental buff used to be meta, then midrange paladin, then midrange murloc paladin. exodia mage is rip, rogue quest isn't actually 50/50 compared to the first week. etc
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>>174550472
>People are so used to poverty in HS that this is a normal question because once you craft a deck you're fucked for a year
>Blizzshills still defend this
Craft what you think seems fun.
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>>174550786
c'thun rogue is a perfectly fine tier 5 deck, i have no idea why you'd want to play quest in it
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>>174550250
Yes, the average is around 2.993 wins.

>>174550347
The average isn't exactly 3 because the player who go 12:0, 12:1 and 12:2 aren't giving away a win to the other player.
Every 12:0 run means there are 3 less wins that run. Every 12:1 means there are 2 less wins. Evert 12:2 means there is 1 less win in total.
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>>174549351
It's not even playable in this tavern brawl. I got 5 wins with warlock and not a single one was with the quest in play.
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>>174531050
the game isn't actually dying despite what some fag who has a fetish for google searches might tell you here.
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>>174550264
>worst player
>people who break even in arena

What is senpai trying to say?
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>>174550715
For a deck to go 12-0 someone has to go 12-1 > 12-2 > 11-3 > 10-3 > 9-3 > 8-3 > 7-3 > 6-3 > 5-3 > 4-3 > 3-3 > 2-3 > 1-3 > 0-3. Now add all those numbers up and divide it by three.
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>>174551198
Because Cthun Rogue has a lot of bounce naturally.

So if I use my bounce on something like Earthen Far Seer instead of the panda I would still be rewarded in the midgame thus helping me survive other matchups that aren't just slow pieces of shit.

But noooo. It had to have ANTI-synergy. It just HAD to.
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>>174551396
>Now add all those numbers up and divide it by three.
What the fuck are you doing?
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>>174529151
ive actually had more fun playing this expansion than any other time playing the game except for when i first got it in beta
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>>174551624
Three is the average win rate in arena, you fucking retard.
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>>174551706
t. mtg player
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>Make a deck of 30 cheap shaman cards for quest
>Win in casual
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>>174551378
Bad personality, not necessarily bad at a game.
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>>174551851
> doesn't know that shaman cards are overpowered
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>>174550864
>>174550746
>tfw just want a stale meta so I can craft a deck and play without worrying it'll be shit

already fell for the quest rogue meme and lost 1600 dust, not doing that again for Sherazin
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>>174539603
pretty good card

if the meta were a bit slower she would be much better since she basically has taunt and if u get any kind of decent buff u win unless she is immediately countered
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>>174542240
hes talking about dirty rat you retard
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y3-cm30pZU

What a balanced card. Blizzard sure is good at balancing.
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>>174553073
I think he knows that
He was saying that Amara is just as broken as dirty rat, and that he should have played around dirty rat by throwing down amara right away rather than waiting for a higher value play
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>>174545992
you can do well with ANY class except warlock (regardless of what these tards in the general say) so just look for top legend decks of ur favorite class that isnt warlock and grind the fuck out of it
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>can't do the combo of Sparring Partner + Black Knight anymore
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>>174551378
>>worst player
>>people who break even in arena
>What is senpai trying to say?
you actually believe everything you read on the internet or what?
the person saying
>>people who break even in arena
could be just a lying sack of shit, you know?
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>>174518931
salty shieldbearer detected
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>>174518931
not you :)
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>>174544419
>very little RNG = not fun

What the fuck is this shit? I have more fun playing Rocket League because in a 1v1 even if I get my ass handed to me I can see WHY i lost, I lost because my opponent was better than me and if I get scored on I can see how if I played better, I instead wouldn't get scored on. There is something to strive for competitively because every time you get scored on or every time you miss a goal, it's an opportunity to get better, to improve.

There is no improving in hearthstone. "Player skill" makes maybe a 5-10% difference in your winrate overall, it has very little impact and there are many many scenarios where even if you're really far ahead, your opponent can pull some RNG or discover a card and win from nothing, and there's nothing you can fucking do about it. You can't "get better" at topdecking or "get better" at pulling a certain burn spell or card outside of your class. Shit just happens.

I mean yeah in a way gambling is fun but that doesn't make Gwent (or any other low-to-no RNG game) "boring". Both sorts of games require completely different mindsets to enjoy. In a skill-based game you can't pull a rabbit out of your ass and win against a master, but in a luck-based game you can never really "git gud", you're just rolling the dice and seeing what happens and you're not really a part of it.

Like with MTG you already have enough RNG with drawing a card from your deck every turn for example, in most card games. A little RNG is fun but a fuck-ton is frustrating as hell, and that's what HS is unfortunately, they go crazy with the RNG to absurd levels. Only problem is HS has pretty much had a monopoly on the genre for years now so there really hasn't been anywhere else to go, Gwent is the first one that looks legit and actually competitive to boot while also being a CCG.
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Should I craft the quest rogue meme?
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What is the current arena class tier list?
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Havent been able to play in 2 nights. Is ladder all murlocs now?
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Do they intentionally make the good classes into horrible shit for the tavern brawl just to make the casuals feel better after getting steamrolled by fotm for the 15th time in a row?

These decks definitely aren't completely random. It's all the same cards.
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>>174551890
That would be you since you can't stand that someone is actually enjoying arena and doing good in it.

>>174553524
What the fuck are you even trying to say?
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>>174549338
Many people just quit arenas for a free pack.
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>>174553329
dirty rat is far more broken than allyra because it takes no set up and costs 2 mana, pulls a minion that doesnt count for a quest, doesnt trigger a battlecry, and doesnt count as a combo

allyra forces you to play a bunch of shitty deathrattles and other useless junk

both he and you if youre not just him are retarded
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>never spent a single dollar on this diceroll simulator
>blow 4k gold on ungoyo packs
>get Lyra, Voraxx & Dred
>play this shitty brawl
>pick warrior and rope an autistic druid
>he eventualy blows his entire load on the board
>brawl
>play my own quest and whack his survivor
>he concedes
>unpack Nosdormu

Thats 4 legendaries in 41 packs, no money spent, and some autists evening ruined, fuck all of you hahahaha
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>>174554124
I don't have an opinion on any of that, but the guy I was replying to seemed to have missed the point which is why I just clarified without inputting my own opinion.
Also do you mean Amara?
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>>174554289
yeah my bad. i tried playing her but she really isnt that good

unfortunately its miracle priest agaibst super aggro days and dragon for the rest
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>>174553638
no it's fucking awful, and this is coming from someone who crafted it day 1 and reached rank 3 with it. It's garbage and was only good at the start of the meta at beating other garbage

Loses hard to aggro, loses to midrange hunter, disfavored against taunt warrior

there's not a single rank 1 deck quest rogue can actually beat
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tfw playing tempo warrior and shitting on all the huntards
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>>174554120
Those people don't count since they neither add wins nor loses to the count.
It's the same as if they didn't play, statistically.
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>>174554403
I don't input my opinion because I only play wild now and I assume most people are talking about standard
She seems somewhat powerful because people put reno and kazakus in with the old powerful deathrattle cards like shredder and belcher
With cards like deathlord and chow to hold the early game
I think she is okay in that kind of case where she acts like a second reno and N'zoth just gaurantees quest completion
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>>174551706
Looks like it's not 3.
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>>174554437
Alright, ill just craft leeroy instead.
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>>174554120
That's me sometimes. I draft something, play a couple games and after the first or 2nd loss I usually get super bored. Arena just isn't fun to me, playing with sub-optimal decks.

It's not fun when the opponent got offered 2 meteors and a legendary and I got offered hungry crabs and shit you know?
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>new VS Data Report comes out
>deck variety on the ladder is LITERALLY gone in a matter of hours
pathetic player base.
dead game.
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>>174554095
You're making me repeat myself, the true sign of a genuine retard. This will be the last time. Arena is fine if you're doing it just because you like it. It's a con job if you're trying to convince others skill has anything to do with it or that they have a chance of even breaking even gold-wise on it.
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>>174554992
Skill does matter. You're repeating yourself because you're too retarded to understand that.
RNG will fuck you up every now and then but if you're good, you will break even more often than not leading to a net gain.
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>>174554210
>roped just because asshole
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>>174554992
how come people like Kripp Hafu etc easily average over 6 wins?

here's how: they're SKILLED and you are TRASH
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My god this is his 4th spikeridged steed

Also look at the idiot who didn't buff the other minion and laugh
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>>174555184
>being so autistic you actually wait out a roping opponent
Just concede?
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>>174554439
POST DICK I've been yearning to play tempo warrior since rotation
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>run eater of secrets specifically for mage
>its in the last three cards of my deck

THIS GAME IS FUCKING DOGSHIT
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I just got to rank 5 and I'm 50/50 on wanting legend and not caring about it. Is it best just to play whatever and see where you end up?
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>>174555256
Don't know. But I suspect they just don't record their failed runs. Doing literally nothing but playing arena for a job probably helps.

>>174555760
Kind of the point, dumb ass. The rope is not a weapon. Jesus christ you are the worst sort of player infesting this nightmare of a game.
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>>174556119
IF you havent been legend before just give up already...
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>>174556249
never been legend but the only thing I see to get out of it is the cardback which I wouldn't use anyway.
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Don't bother playing warrior or warlock for the tavern brawl. These premade decks are pure shit.
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>shitstomp some trihard shitlord in casual
>A recent opponent would like to be your friend
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>>174556235
kripp hates the game, you really think he plays it offstream?

plus Blizzard releases stats of top arena players to public every month, he's been in top 100 every month
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>>174556235
Then why are you so mad, just concede and move on
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>>174555990

Don't worry, it will be the first card you draw against every non-mage
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hi, i'm late
the druid quest is cool
at least in the brawl
thanks for reading my blogpost
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>>174555878
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>>174556647
>offstream
Of course he does. What are you, retarded? That's almost certainly why he fucking loathes it.

>plus Blizzard releases stats of top arena players to public every month, he's been in top 100 every month
I honestly can't explain this. I've always had trouble understanding why streamers get easy freebie opponents when mine were always cutthroat. My guess is that most people who play arena simply don't stick with it because it's shit, so people who grind have a better shot of climbing.

>>174556648
>Just lose to me or hate the game brah
Get out. Now.
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Buff paladin is fun
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>>174558068
Then enjoy getting roped I guess, I'll just cuddle with my GF while watching tv meanwhile
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>>174558068
>I honestly can't explain this. I've always had trouble understanding why streamers get easy freebie opponents when mine were always cutthroat.
Because people like Kripp get you as their opponent while you get Kripp as your opponent.
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>>174558384
roasted
>>
place your bets
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>>174558384
Yeah no. That has nothing to do with matchmaking.
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>>174558618
Pyros.
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>>174558618
aaaand it's 400 dust
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>>174554953
Why people can't play this game without net decking?
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Does anyone else here like watching pw4nyhof? He is always positive and uplifting makes my shitty day feel much better. What are you favorite streamers /hsg/?
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>>174554953
I played 10 percent paladins for last few days. Today I am against 50 percent paladins. Kill yourselves net deck shitters.
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>>174558891
Fuck off pw4nyhof
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>>174558891
Yes, he's /ourguy/.
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>>174558891
I love him too, he programmed us after all
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>>174558806
Shaman is the one quest I didn't want,unlike the Paladin/Druid/Warlock ones which are safe to dust, it's just viable enough that I might want to keep it, but on the other hand, I have no Murloc Warleaders, no Finja, no Gentle Megasaur, no Coldlight Seers, no Primalfin Totems fuck me.
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>at rank 7
>playing control paladin
>each game takes 20+ minutes 'cause I'm not playing any meme-range hunters anymore
>win but it takes a mental toll on me

how the fuck am I supposed to hit legend

I can't fucking do it, you guys
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>>174559459
netdeck aggroshit for faster games
highroll warleaders or fiery war axes
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>>174559286
Would this be decent for my retarded Murloc Shaman without a ton of murlocs?
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>>174559459

control has never been a good answer to get legend with unless you're rank 1-2 or it counters the meta very heavily
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is uising that amazon bullshit worth it to buy packs
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What the fuck is this new Spirit Echo jade shaman netdeck that's everywhere

Jesus fuck do people copy anything a streamer does
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>>174559892
DRUMPFTKINS BTFO
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>>174559893
if you have an android phone there's no reason not to
assuming you don't feel like buying packs is a scam to begin with it is
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>Only losing because Priest stole the exact cards they needed from you

I really hate this, I really fucking hate this, how, why, why do they keep supporting this mechanic, nobody likes this fucking mechanic but they support it in EVERY SINGLE FUCKING EXPANSION
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RANK 5 BOYS. I'M SO HAPPY. PALADIN A BEST.

Now to go play my Goon deck in wild
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>>174560321
Hopefully priest never gets a tier 1 deck for the rest of this games life, it's more frustrating to play against than Pirate Warrior or fucking Taunt Warrior even being a meme class
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>>174559806
>>174559841
you guys don't understand. I actually have fun playing the deck which is the only reason I'm going for legend. I played four hours of constructed two days ago with the deck. That's literally never happened before.
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>>174558270
Post dick my goon.
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>draft crazy deck with 3 leggos, one of them deathwing
>still lose a game because I had to hero-power on turn 2

Does it even matter what you draft?
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>>174518661
Should I dust King Mosh?
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>>174560793
Yes
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>>174560793
No
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>>174560793
No.
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>>174560793
Yes
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>>174560215
I know its not the best idea but I just want a kick start ,I dont have any gold
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>>174560793
Yes.
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>>174560793
No
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>>174560850
>>174560906
>>174560974
>>174561013
>>174561086
reeeeee
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>>174561186
Think of it my man. late game mass execute, death on a scale unheard of by man since the sot primordial age.

And all it takes, is a Whirlwind.
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>>174561186
Playable Epic, 4 Rares or a million commons>Unplayable Legendary
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>>174560793
He's a 2-card deathwing that doesnt make you discard your hand, dont dust him.
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>Quit the game for good after the patches debacle
>Read a bunch of articles about how this is the best meta in years
>Think about coming back
>Read the thread
>Netdeckers are eliminating all variance from the game
>One deck is rising to the top
Well guess I made the right move. Even if Blizzard can manage to dig out of the hole they dug with their incompetence, the fact remains that the "community" is still pure cancer.
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>Got Warrior's quest from an arena pack
The gods have spoken
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>>174561410
>Why are these people playing good decks? It's almost like they want to win instead of building their super creative Control Dragon Hunters :^D

Why is the "NETDECKERS GET OUT REEEEE" meme so popular?
>>
JUST
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>>174561410
>one deck is rising to the top
There are like four different tier 1 decks at least and a gazillion tier 2 decks that could very well become tier 1 with some tuning.
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>>174561398
>>174561186
Deathwing's better in Quest Warrior. Mosh is better in regular Control.
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>>174561626
>golden lego
>complains
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>>174561626
>opens a legendary of his choice
At least you didn't open the regular version like I did
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>>174561626
>golden quest
>golden Megafin
>full hand of golden murlocs
thats unbeatable value
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>>174561523
What these retards dont get is that hearthstone decks aren't that hard to figure out. Give 10 good players the task to build a tempo mage and their lists will differ in a few cards maybe. There simply isn't enough room for "master deckbuilders" to exist like in magic the gathering.
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>>174561826
It's like they've never played a card game before, there will always be Tier 1 decks, people play to win, not everyone wants to be a master deckbuilder
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>>174561826
In addition to that: blizzard fucked up royally by letting the classic set stay in standard. Decks build themselves primarily because cards like fireball are auto-includes in every mage deck ever until the end of time.
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>>174561701
>>174561756
>>174561810

I'd dust it in a heartbeat but I already have everything I really want out of the set except for a couple meme epics. Should I just keep it until the next expansion?
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>draw umbra on my discard turn 2 games in a row
why
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>>174562087
Do it, if anything it's a guaranteed legendary or a whole bunch of epic cards of choice for the next expansion
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>>174562115
post your deck
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>>174560438

then keep playing it, all I did during the streets meta was struggle to get to 5 with a nzoth control shaman deck
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>>174561391
>10 commons
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>>174562081
They have no choice but to keep the classic set since they obviously don't plan on reducing the price of packs to 50 gold and like 25% of the current price in real money.

The expansions they release are small. The amount of playable cards is generally small (Un'goro really is the exception here).
They tried fixing that by releasing 3 expansions per year, which is fucking insane at the current price point and card acquisition. I opened 59 Un'goro packs and can make Memet Mage and midrange Hunter. That's fucking it. All that I can do is play mostly classic decks and wild because I can't make competitive Un'goro decks thanks to the awful luck I had (opened 7 Journey to Un'gor out of my 9 epics and 2 Hemet out of my 3 legos, Pyros was the 3rd).

If they removed Classic as the core piece of the game, I would just stop playing because I couldn't do absolutely anything and there would be absolutely no chance of keeping up even at this crappy rate.

So until they change their idiotically bad business model (bad for the consumer, yet supported by the retarded Blizzdrones), they have to keep classic as the biggest set the center piece of the game.

Also Fireball is basic. Many of the auto-include cards for mage and warrior are basics.
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>>174561523
You really can't figure out why nobody but the sociopaths playing this way can stand pay to win clone decks?
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>>174562325
its still a massive work in progress, i'll post it if i manage to win a game
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NEW THREAD, MIGRATE WHENEVER
>>174562731
>>174562731
>>174562731
>>174562731
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>>174562550
Everything wrong with card crafting in 1 number and word.
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>>174562748
wtf is that?
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>>174562871
The target audience of Hearthstone.
Cute little boys.
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