AGDG - Amateur Game Development General

>>174505390
first for I'm single and ready to fucking kill myself if I don't figure out how to do proper state machines today

What does a loli-jam entail and what's a loli?

>>174505439
This is AGDG's Loli Jam. In short, the theme of this Jam is cute little (anime) girls.

There are no restrictions about the genre etc. but try to make an effort and make a game where the loli's presence and her role make sense. And remember: Lolis shall not be sexualized, so NO LEWD STUFF.

>>174505437
>how to do proper state machines
Co-routines.

>can't decide what game to make
>paralyzed but indecision

>>174505539
random.org

>Godot 3.0 "alpha" in a few days!
>9 days ago

p-pls

>>174505437
>using design patterns for your personal project
Haha no wonder you kys

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Not strictly video games, and more to do with social media, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPF9_1VIso

A very long talk about what tactics apps and websites use to grab and retain attention, why they do it, why it works, implications for the future, AI, and so on.

I enjoyed it.

>>174505687
Last I heard was May/June most likely.

>>174505746
https://twitter.com/reduzio/status/850896915801808896

>>174505731
>why they do it
Money. Duh.

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>>174505779
>going on vacation
>anywhere close to a big release
Now I'm sure it won't happen this month.

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Good luck on your project today, Anon-kun!

>>174505884
Taking lessons from Notch

>>174505469
>Lolis shall not be sexualized, so NO LEWD STUFF.
That's kinda boring

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idea guy here

sonichu the video game

>>174506625
Why don't you sexuallize them in a way so obscure no one can tell you're sexuallizing them? That sounds fun.

>>174506763
>stealing OC
lowest

>>174506763
Is... is CWC pregnant?

>the storytelling in my game will never come close to living up to the standards I want it to meet

why

even

bother

inb4 gameplay is all that matters, ignore story

Friendly reminder to use an engine if you want to finish your game

I'm not overlooking any built-in functions in GM:S for formatting a string so it'll fit in a textbox properly, am I? I don't mind writing a script to do it myself, but it seems like a common feature a lot of games would need so it's a little strange to be absent.

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rollercoaster tycoon set in hell where you're trying to kill your customers as gruesomely as possible and they keep coming back for more

idea guy here

it's like katawa shoujo but with down syndrome

Why is it so hard for an artist like me to just find a programmer to work with? I just want my art in a game, why should it be so hard?

>>174507375
This ain't a bad idea.

>>174507453
What engine do I use?

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>>174507395
Perfect. I'm you're art guy.

>>174507453
I'll help you anon, email me and we can talk about stuff.
[email protected]

>>174507453
What art program do you use?

>>174505892
Thanks unity-chan, I'll make lots of progress with blueprints today!

>>174507691
kek

>>174507453
probably because your art is shit and i'd have to replace it in the end anyway so there'd be no point

>>174507453
Hey! We're a team of programmers looking for an artist.
A quick introduction so you know what you'd be getting into: there are ten of us, and each of us are working on the same game in several different engines for a concurrent release across several flavors of code. We're using everything; Unity, all four Unreals, GameMaker and 2, Godot, Pygame, all versions of RPGMaker including the PS2 release of the game, several dozen different small libraries in a number of languages, and six of us are simultaneously working on our own separate engines in sixteen dfferent languages including COBAL, Assembly, and raw machine code.
We only need one artist to make assets to be shared over all the different engines we're working on. We're willing to pay $500 upfront, then a commission per asset you make on top of an hourly salary as well as a 50% cut of all future profits once we release (since artists are the most valuable member of any gamedev team).
We're really flexible with the content, too. Do you have an email we can discuss this over?

>>174507910
Sorry, I'm not interested in working with those engines. Good luck though!

I'll program a game for you as long as you provide me with esoteric original memes every day.

>>174507943
Which ones? Did I mention we're also using the engine you're interested in working on? We also have a coder who's not even working on the game.

>>174507976
Sorry I'm not interested in working. Good luck though!

>>174507293
Oh, duh, it was built into draw_text_ext.

>>174507992
That sounds perfect! We also have a slot for an artist who won't work. It's an avant-garde west coast approach to gamedev we learned about in a seminar. The salary still applies. What's your contact email?

>>174508041
>Sorry I'm not interested. Good luck though!

>>174508041
Good luck on your project!

>>174508061
One of the requirements is not being interested and having good luck, so you fit the bill perfectly! We have a sign-on bonus if you post your email right now. It's good to see such enthusiastic team-building going on here in /adgddg/!

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good morning agdg

>>174507242
but im already using an engine, and it still feels like an insane amount of work for the quality I want to achieve.(3d game)

What kind of game can you make in 1 hour without using an engine or any previous code?

Tell me and I'll do it.

>>174508132
I thought she had open-crotch panties from the thumb

>>174508132
>Global Rules
>13. Do not use avatars or attach signatures to your posts.

Fuck off.

>>174508112
can I apply?

I'm an anime triple nigger without enough free space on drive C:\

>>174507910
Wow I don't know what to say, I guess I have some concerns about your toolchain. I am going to remove myself from your considerations at this time, but I am deeply appreciative that you would consider me. Hoping the best for you and yours.

Regards
artist

>>174508165
A short text-based adventure entirely in the console.

>>174506625
Want to get b&?
>>174505892
Thanks unity chan. I just woke up.

>>174507910

Do you start everyday with everyone standing in a circle and you all take turns kicking the guy across from you in the sack?

>>174508224
>Want to get b&?

Is this a joke? I don't even care, just leave either way.

>>174508165
Static puzzle game, simple text adventure, quiz, clicker with placeholder graphics, text space lander simulator, you have a tons of choices really.

>>174508215
I've never played text adventures so I don't know what they're supposed to be like

>>174508165
tic tac toe
maze generator
text adventure
cookie clicker
breakout

>>174508284
>you notice a door, do you enter it?
>yes/no
> if yes, prompt scene 2
>if no, prompt scene 3
>etc

>>174508186
No.

>>174508197
Perfect. We've been looking for someone concerned with our toolchain, and we're implementing a more forceful approach where we don't actually give prospective artists a choice. Asking to be removed from our consideration put you at the top of our recruitment list. You're on the team, congrats!

Post email so we can send you your first assignment now that you're part of our studio.

Hey guys, Chad here again. Still looking for the following for my game:

- 4 programmers (C++ only)
- 5 3D artists (Blender only)
- 2 concept artists (GIMP only)
- 2 sound makers (Fruity Loops only)

My idea will redefine video games as we know it. I've had a few emails from people asking for the game concept prior to joining the team but I just can't give that information out in case it gets stolen. You'll have to sign a contract and NDA first.

As for payment, 40% of the total game's profit will be divided between the team.

Please contact me at [email protected] if you're interested

Good luck!

Chad

>>174508398
Im an investor, please PM me more details

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>>174508174
the post says good morning, and it has a picture attached of someone standing and stretching while wearing bedclothes, as if they had just woken up, which would be when someone might say good morning

it's like as if the picture of the post is the one talking, speaking the line that is written in that same post

its as if it were an avatar on some gaia like shit

which, by the way, is a rule violation!

essentially, that post was an illegal post

>>174508398
>C++
>GIMP
>Fruity Loops
Go fcking kill yourself.
Fuck off namefag

>>174508398
Wow, ideaguy here, I know how to revolutionize videogames, for example I came up with a bunch of ideas to make Skyrim much better. I can't tell you what they are because someone will steal my ideas and profit from them, so surely you understand why I can't share with you anything I've done.

I'll contact you now.

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I came here like month ago, and this general somohow managed to degrade sighnifically during only one month. WTF with you guys really?

anyone seriously looking for an artist?

>>174508594
yeah, post email

>>174508524
Fuck off.

>>174508607
how about you tell me about your game first so I know what I'd be getting into?

>>174508594
Yes, I'm looking for both artist and a programmer to make a game with. I have 5+ years of experience as game designer for my own ideas.

>>174508658
I'm working on your preferred genre in your preferred engine, and I'm not particularly interested in an artist right now. Post email and good luck.

>artist asks if anyone needs an artist
>doesn't post examples of work
love this meme

>>174508695
wtf are you talking about? do you need an artist or not?

hey guys i'm going to add networking to my agdg game

so naturally i will need your email address because game networking is email based networking

>>174508725
I do. I'm not interested in an artist, though. Good luck with your game. Post email.

>>174508725
post screenshot of art in your art program

>>174508564
/agdg/ in itself is some kind of an illusion in that it seems to get perpetually worse, but never crosses any critical treshold and implode.

Do devs that have become successful (like hopoo etc.) ever help out other AGDG devs who release their games by retweeting / somehow promoting their stuff?

>>174508907
>AGDG devs who release their games
You should become a standup comedian or something

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>>174508762
so, do you think i have a promising carrer with your company?

>>174509001
I can unironically work with this.

Is crashing every 5 minutes part of Maya's workflow? What the fuck is wrong with this pile of dung. 3ds Max and Blender have never spit me in the face this hard.

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>>174505390
i'm going back to mockups after the fiasco with the attack animations which look like shit so i'll have to redo them

>>174509001
Better proportions than gogem

>>174509001
I want to team up to make a visual novel

>>174509087
this art is shit though please delete it

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Next step: Greenlight

>>174509135
shut up it's great

>>174509037
Love the workflow of all these proprietary programs.
It's become part of my workflow to restart Photoshop every 2 hours or so because it slowly leaks memory.
Still don't want to move to GIMP because of the lacking features and I've pretty much become vendor-lock-in'd with Adobe because I've learned to use all their products.

>>174509087
>prerenders blocks because he's too incompetent for perspective
>doesn't put any AA
nice job

>>174509304
i could put in anti-aliasing but having too many colours in the scene reduces performance

>>174509087
Why should the location be part of the dialogue window?

>>174508564
One month ago... Wasn't that during the poll wars? I doubt we are currently worse than we were at that point in time.

>>174509339
I keep telling myself this is bait but it still makes me mad

>>174509339
this is bait right?

>tfw 4/20 4:20

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>>174509360
i don't even know if i need a location

it's a holdover from a previous thing where i was trying a bloodborne kind of thing
>>174509382
>>174509397
if you have more colours in the scene it takes gamemaker longer to draw the scene, this is common sense

>>174509436
Have you ever measured how much longer it takes?

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Happy 420 my sweet sweet friends of /agdg. Surely you're smoking while working on your game right?

>>174508907
Never heard of it

>>174509502
>smoking
No wonder your game looks like shit.

>>174509001
>tfw mocking doodles in mspaint are better than your game art.

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>>174509473
>have you counted every penny you've saved?
i haven't but it's common sense to realise every little helps

and we're not talking about adding the three extra colours i need for antialiasing, we're talking about shading for everything

i could end up with hundreds of colours in each scene and that would definitely impact performance

>>174509556
Simmer down boy. Why would you say that on such a beautiful day to a fewllo dev?

>>174509607
Yep this has to be bait

>2nd time in an hour that inkscape crashes

REEEEEEEEEEE

>>174509201
This is sad. The worst thing is that I need Maya because my project will be animation and mocap heavy so Blender is not an option.

Have you looked at Clip Studio Paint? I heard at /ic/ that it's fantastic and has completely replaced Photoshop for some artists.

>>174509665
It's like Krita.

They have the functionality to be great, but they're unpolished and buggy shits that never get fixed.

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At least your problems come from the programs themselves
My art is shit and I've only got myself to blame

>>174509865
What are you over here shitposting for instead of practicing then?

>>174509865
pics?

>>174508564
I don't know, anon, I'm here for more than a year now, and yeah, you are kinda right. The best period was last summer, and maybe the most recent Demo Day.

Even my fav devs seem to be absent for months now.

Other than that, comparing to other creative generals, /agdg/ is more like a chatroom which obviously leads to a lot of offtopicing and shitposting, inside jokes and so on. Not to mention that game making had become something very available to the masses, and since nearly everyone who has ever touched a game thought once "hey, I'm gonna make something cool like this once", we have a flood of "how do I into game dev, what engine should I use" etc. kind of posts.

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> when you manage to get dynamic debris

>>174509436
>if you have more colours in the scene it takes gamemaker longer to draw the scene, this is common sense
ahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahhahaha
Tell me the reasoning behind this otlandish claim. I want to laugh some more.

>>174509865
>tfw no strength to get out of your comfort zone

>>174510029
>tfw outside of comfort zone and not feeling comfy
I want to go back.

>>174510023
>i don't understand how computers work; the post

>>174510095
>my second name is irony

>People would rather argue and shit on one another than having actual discourse and talking about games and advicing each other

You people are scaring others to Reddit.

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>>174509921
Working hours without breaks isn't healthy.

>>174509971
Have a mannequin I've been working on today and a little bit yesterday

>>174510029
There's no secret there, you have to force yourself to do it, and accept you're shit.

>>174510090
No. You must stay where you are until it becomes a comfort zone.

>>174510165
well for example, what would you have me do, right now?

make a post? not make a post? draw a shitty mspaint and post that? like, what do you actually do?

just post about what else I am doing right now?

Well okay, I am installing msvc 2017 it says 45gb to install, and I will try to activate it with a fake serial number, so this is going to take awhile

>>174510267

> I am so incapable of being a decent human being I need others to tell me what to do

If you give the slightest shit about actual devving you would advice people and recieve it too.

>>174510193
>3d
You brought this upon yourself.

>>174510193

That topology just looks horrible. Make sure all the faces on your model are of equal size and structure.

Also how do you expect to animate an arm that has one edge in the middle? At least chamfer it a bit.

Good work.

how does i into blender?

>>174510095
Do explain, please.

>>174510595
download
install
look up tutorial

>>174510595

Youtube tutorials on what you want to make

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>>174505390
I can't compress it enough for the bullet holes to still be visible but my bullets seem to work reliably now
So i chucked it on webm share
Please excuse my animations going out of sync and the lack of guns :)
https://webmshare.com/BOWgP

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New enemy whoopwhoop

>>174509436
>if you have more colours in the scene it takes gamemaker longer to draw the scene, this is common sense
>this is who you share agdg with
Jesus christ

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nah thats crazy talk
I mean give advice its like what does that even look more like?

>>174509087
i liked it this way better because you can see the person bigger and it can be a chance to show a nicer picture, instead of it just locking like a screenshot out of a forum at the bottom with just the same small square avatar image

>>174510856
>yellow hand
THAT'S TOO MUCH COLOUR ANON. YOU'RE GOING TO OVERLOAD THE COMPUTER!!!

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>>174509607
>>174510095


dude you have to be absolutely inept or otherwise actively try hard to make a modern computer break a sweat with a sprite-based video game

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hey agdg what is the best font to use in videogames
>>174510623
>>174510854
gamemaker draws the scene one colour at a time
>>174510856
yeah but that's waaaaay more work and this style is what undertale and most jrpgs use

>>174510983
>gamemaker draws the scene one colour at a time
No it doesn't, that's not how computers work.

>>174505437
This page helped me learn state machines http://boreal.aggydaggy.com/programming/2016/05/25/mean-clean-state-machine.html

>>174510401
As I said, I'm only blaming myself.

>>174510464
>That topology just looks horrible. Make sure all the faces on your model are of equal size and structure.
Does it matter as much for parts that won't really get deformed ? I can see why it's bad on the belly/back/chest and I know a human won't have any really static part, as we have muscles everywhere.
>Also how do you expect to animate an arm that has one edge in the middle? At least chamfer it a bit.
You mean the elbow ? It's cut in three loops so that it doesn't collapse when the armature moves.
It's still pretty fucking ugly.
>Good work.
y-you too

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>that """gamedev""" who doesn't sip tea and listen to classical music while working

>>174510981
my computer isn't modern i guess that's the answer
>>174511004
uhhh point me to where in the documentation it says it doesn't

>>174511029

> Does it matter as much for parts that won't really get deformed ? I can see why it's bad on the belly/back/chest and I know a human won't have any really static part, as we have muscles everywhere.

Yes absolutely. The texture and unwrap would just look dead wrong. Imagine wanting to animate it after you're done modeling and it's completely fucked up.

>that """gamedev""" who doesn't suffer from horrible wrist pain and has to take breaks to cry

>>174510983
>gamemaker draws the scene one colour at a time
WHAT. Post proof of your claim.

>>174511047
>not chugging coffee and listening to breakcore
gotta go fast

>>174505779
>vacation
>godot is being made by a fucking normie
reeee I thought this would be a normie free zone

>>174511090
You're just baiting for attention right?
You can't be this retarded.

>People ignore your gif and your hard work for the sake of arguing

>>174511047
>tfw I have a home espresso machine and make espresso every morning while listening to lo-fi hiphop, vaporwave. and jazz.

>>174511090
>my computer isn't modern
unless it's vacuum tube-based it's modern enough to run a game with 100,000 sprite enemies in one room

>>174511268
oh, the minecraft teddybear?

why are the colours like that?

>>174511295
>it's modern enough to run a game with 100,000 sprite enemies in one room
only if those enemies don't do anything interesting and only if the program you're using isn't gamemaker

>>174511307

No this one;

>>174509996

>>174511268

I think that the hue of the light is too tan / skin / orange and needs to be a different hue, and the flame torch should have some yellow on it too

why
do
you
KEEP
REPLYING
TO
HIM

AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>174509996
there is a triangular warble effect near the end, can you see it? it washes over the player sprite and the scene.

Is this a low-res 3d rendering?

>>174511130
>>174511196
uhhh point me to where in the documentation it says it doesn't

>>174511423
Whom?

>>174511417

I'm sorry which one are you talking about? I posted this gif;

>>174509996

I don't see a flame torch or any tan light

>>174511509

It's a low-res 2d rendering that was then stretched out into 1920 x 1080, creating a low res illusion.

>>174511557
oh, so it must be a rescaling / rotation artifact or something.

I bet that you either have it blurry, or you have that pixel ripple effect.

>>174511423 (You)

>>174511634

I literally told you what we did.

>>174511372
shut the fuck up the program doesn't matter, your code makes or breaks the CPU load, a 5 years old GPU can draw your little shit 16x16 sprite 500,000 times 60 times a second

>>174511524
This shitposter: >>174511423

>>174511113
>The texture and unwrap would just look dead wrong.
Oh right. I hadn't thought about that part yet.
Just to push the questions to the extreme, in the event I did something completely mechanical, with flat bits of metal, wood or whatever. Would it also be necessary ? I mean, clearly you would add extra tris that might not be of any use.

>>174511678
>a 5 years old GPU can draw your little shit 16x16 sprite 500,000 times 60 times a second
not in gamemaker

>>174511678
I don't use the GPU, I use cpu rendering, and I then transfer to the sdl window surface, and then vsync, and I maintain 144fps

>>174511726

> Just to push the questions to the extreme, in the event I did something completely mechanical, with flat bits of metal, wood or whatever. Would it also be necessary ? I mean, clearly you would add extra tris that might not be of any use.

No hard object modeling doesn't require such a topology. Organic objects do.

>>174511730
do you have to use gamemaker?

gamemaker is really hard to debug

visual studio is much easier because you can just step through it

also I saw in their features list it allows you to step through the draw passes on the gpu and debug how it assembles the final screen, that might be useful

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh873194.aspx

I would just write in C# or C++ targetting some easy library like maybe sdl or cocos 2d

>>174511789
>No hard object modeling doesn't require such a topology. Organic objects do.
Got it. Thank you again.

>>174511873

You know what I like about this post?

>>174511919

No problem.

>>174511513
>"I made a claim"
>prove it's correct
>"nu-uh, you prove that it's wrong!"

Please continue, this is comedy gold.

>>174512001

>Arguing the supply of proof

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>>174511873
>do you have to use gamemaker?
yes
>gamemaker is really hard to debug
i'm not using a lot of code
>visual studio is much easier because you can just step through it
i really want to make something simple anyway
>>174512001
*tips*

>>174512062
>i really want to make something simple
your mum already made something simple, why don't you ask her for expertise

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>>174512193
>your mum already made something simple,
She clearly forgot to debug

I have to code in sublime text because visual studio wont open because 2017 install is still running, and it looks like it will take all night, so i am coding in sublime and compiling from command line

the syntax colours are all different

>>174512062
okay well good luck then

>>174512330

> Actually responding to your own cocky low test remarks

>you will never have a dev bro whose skills compliment yours to make games with
why even go on living

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>>174511730
but you re NOT going to make a game where you have 500,000 things in a room so what's you fucking problem?

>>174512751
i am going to have multiple animations that i need to be frame perfect so yeah

>>174512815
>i am going to have multiple animations that i need to be frame perfect so yeah
ahahah

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>>174512858
post you are game

>>174512914

> That I need to frame perfect

> 3 frames

>>174512914
Holy shit, look at all those colors, enjoy your 5fps

>>174507375
So … regular RCT?

>>174512957
The human eye only sees at 24fps, it's because he's very fast

>>174512957
>>174513007
it's obviously going to have multiple seconds per frame but i don't want any lag whatsoever
>>174512985
it only adds 2 aditional colours

>>174513007

> The human eye can only see at 24fps
> Still notice the difference between 24fps and 60fps

Am I, dare I say it, supernatural? Does my brain work at 90% as opposed to yours at 20%?

Am I lucy?

>>174513087
You're just imagining it, that's the power of marketing. Intelligent people are immune to it.

>>174513148

I see. I guess I took the redpill.

Wtf I hate jews now.

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Why haven't you guys gone furry?

>>174513247
I don't have the talent to be an artist

>>174513274
CoC and TiTS both only have text.

>>174513274

No one does

But there are women that get paid more simply by showing their tits every now and then.

Ehem Tessa Fowler ehem.

>>174513385
Do they at least look good? I don't want to google it if she's fugly.

Some things you can't unsee

>>174513437

They are pretty big. I haven't seen anything similar. But she only does soft porn, and no actual hardcore. Which I hate her for.

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>>174513274
They are just text. With art you can make more.

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>>174512815
>>174512914
you are such a humongous shitposter I can't believe you still get replies
I can run a gamemaker room with my character cloned 100 times and I still get average FPS 2600

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Views and surfaces in GameMaker aren't very intuitive to use, but I think I got it figured out well enough to do integer scaling for pixel games. Surface-based approach should simplify a lot of things in the long run since I can just treat the game as running at a set base resolution. Hopefully it doesn't interfere with mouse positioning when I get to that, though. Also made a basic dialogue box, but I'm going to have to write a script to handle long strings that require multiple pages.

Using a base resolution of 640x360 so it can scale perfectly to 1920x1080. Think that looks okay? 16:9 aspect ratio seems pretty common these days.

>>174513598
>with my character cloned 100 times
>no background
>better computer than mine
no fucking shit you retard, try running multiple step events and see what happens

>>174513598

> Run the same animations 100 times on screen
> Without any code
> Get 2600 FPS
> Not capping the FPS at 60

Fuck you what a horrible example.

>>174513721
>try running multiple step events and see what happens
the fuck you think are input-based multi-state animations game has to switch for every object you fucking inbred?

>>174508398
We need to update this meme. 1995 was 23 years ago, Chad is no longer underage.

>>174513801
>argument about sprites and colors limiting framerate
>"but muh code"
>"muh frame limits"

Seek professional help.

>>174513889
Jesus Christ. Millennial babies are almost of age.

>>174513963

If only you were only arguing with one guy

Also

> Strawmanning what I said

Now try to run those 100 animations, each of them at a random starting point.

>>174513970
Millennial's have been of age for a long time now.
Also you're a Millennial.

>>174513970
Millennial are people born between 1981 and 1999, you fucking millennial.
Stop listening to /pol/ fake news.

>>174513821
>the fuck you think are input-based multi-state animations game has to switch for every object
isn't there only one player object and one instance of code that gets run there

like the only thing happening on the screen is the animations, i don't think each animation has its own bit of code being run

>>174514049
What do you call people who were born in 2000? Naughties babies?
idk

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when u nearly finished with the whole bestiary but still have barely started on the game

ALSO new song
https://soundcloud.com/iwilldevouryourkittens/to-the-ends-of-the-earth
Pls gib opinions

>>174514021
Can't run them because i'm not the guy who made the animations.

>>174514173
Is this a pokemon fangame?

>>174514173

Music's perfect for what you're trying to achieve.

>>174514243

So you made a developer do this shit for you, just so you could prove a point on an anonymous pen craft website?

>>174514138
>Generation Z (also known as The Founders, Post-Millennials, the iGeneration, Plurals or the Homeland Generation) is the demographic cohort after the Millennials.

Stop using american generational theory.
It was always shit, its even worse now, and it never represented even the USA, let alone the rest of the world.

>>174514138
Generation Z I think?
I don't know. Honestly I think the whole generation naming thing is pointless now-a-days, the only people that talk about generations are old people who hate young people, or retards that think birth year defines a person completely.

>>174513247
I'm not a jew to feed on furry bux
and im not a degenerate faggot.

>>174514283
>what you're trying to achieve

Can't tell if this is a jab or a genuine compliment. Thanks anyway mang

>>174514261
It's more of an SMT clone 2bh

>>174514283
>So you made a developer do this shit for you
What? I'm not even one of the people that was arguing, that was my first post in the discussion.

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>>174514173
Need more waifus.

>>174514121
maybe if you have entire code in one step event and even then that step even would be called for every instance of the object

in mine it pulls code for animation states from separate scripts files and it has to do it for every instance of the object, it was loading different script for 100 objects every time input was changed

>>174514321
I make furry porn for living but that's ok, I only do it for money so I'm not a furry or a degenerate

>>174514348

No it's genuine. Summons that feel 100% correctly.

>>174514412
Thank you!

>>174514397
Not him, but shouldn't you be dev?

What kind of game are you making?

>>174513801
> Run the same animations 100 times on screen
> Without any code
what the fuck are talking about?
how do you run movement animations without a code?

>>174514502
I can't code so I have no game

>>174514397
Good thing you aren't turning into one of them.
i know how to exploit people of what they want to give me money. I just don't want to be looked down by people around me by doing that.

>>174514514
He means he uses the GUI on his engine to drag boxes around and have the code be automatically generated.

>>174514551
>I can't code so I have no game
agdg in a nutshell

>>174514638

No that's not what I ment.

I ment that any one can copy a gif 100 times and boast about not having lag.

>>174514705
then you are fucking moron, that was a game footage of actual player object with scripted inptut

>>174514705
Well if thats not what you meant, you are wrong.
I get why you'd think these are all clones and all calculate the same, but this isn't the case by default.
Its actually some hard work to do it like that, normally even instances of the same object do their own math individually and run individually.

Looking at other first person grid based rpgs for reference. What are some examples of one's that did open world environments well?

The most I can really find is the Might and Magic games and Grimrock 2.

>>174514551
I'll code your degenerate game for you if you do the art.

>>174514394
>even then that step even would be called for every instance of the object
wouldn't it be called for each input given?

like input, step event, animate these things
>in mine it pulls code for animation states from separate scripts files and it has to do it for every instance of the object, it was loading different script for 100 objects every time input was changed
no gamemaker runs the scripts then tells the program what to draw

it says this script will be run so draw these pixels, it doesn't say this script will be run so draw these pixels, then this script will be run so draw these pixels, etc.
>>174514873
>open world environments
just make levels

>>174514551
Make this into a banner for the next thread.

>>174514873
>first person grid based rpgs
Jesus Christ why.

>>174514780
>>174514856

So you people talk about code that runs under the hood using a gif of just 100 animated sprites next to each other literally doing nothing?

What code could you possibly use in that gif?

Professional artist here. Just tell me if you need something

>>174514963
Yo
>>174514173 here
Could you do promo art of some of my monsters?
>implying this isn't b8 anyway

>>174514963
Draw me a dude wall hopping from a 2d perspective.

>>174514954
Thats not a gif. Thats a game object going through some animations. It happens many times, as there are many copies of it.

>>174514926
>no gamemaker runs the scripts then tells the program what to draw

dude read what the fuck is a finite state machine and stop shooting blind

>>174514954
it's not ONE GIF you fucking baby
I'm not going to dissect that video step by step but there were 5 different animations in it and each of them is called through keyboard input or lack of thereof or by finishing one loop of animation and going back to idle
each fucking frame of those animation is being constantly evaluated, every step 60 steps a second, every time a input is changed a corresponding script is loaded to tell what next animation to play

>>174515126

so? that's not difficult.

>arguing with a child that is simply seeking attention and has no idea what he's talking
Why don't you just stop and go back to making a game.

>>174515231
why would it be difficult?
thats the point, that it isn't difficult, and no optimization is needed

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>>174514938

They're fun.

>>174505439
>>174506625
loli jam ended on the 15th. unending false flag loli jam that tries to redefine "loli" on /jp/ is all that remains now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSG6u0nisms

>>174515276

Why would you need a key input anyway?

Playing the next set of sprites after one finishes doesn't need a key input.

Besides what does the code for such a scene contain anyway?

>>174514873
Daggerfall?

>>174513475
Holy fuck those are some delicious looking titties. I wouldn't pay to see any woman's tits anyways though. Thanks anon.

>>174515231
that's kind of the point

>>174512858
>>174512914
this guy is worried that his 3-frame animations are going to slow the game down if he adds more colors

that's ridiculous
yes, they will, but by a margin of a pebble fallen from space adding to the total mass of the planet earth

>>174515392

No problem mang. One video leaked of her using a vibrator on cam. Pissed her off.

I tweet insulting pepe memes to her sometimes.

>>174515430
my computer is really shit, i get stuttering in undertale

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>>174510983

>Use Node.js for multiplayer
Yes or no?

I am a game developer, ask me anything.

>>174514873
Etrian Odyssey
And there's that lewd dungeon crawler posted for the lewd jam

>>174515567
Multiplayer what?

>>174510983
First and foremost, whatever's readable.

Sometimes you'll want to choose a font that fits your specific setting, but you really don't want players to be reading paragraphs in some wacky themed font.

>>174515567
>Use Node.js for anything
Nah.

>>174515643
Basic 4 person top down game.

>>174515621

Link to lewd crawler?

>>174515353
>Why would you need a key input anyway?
how the fuck else do you want to control your character?
>Playing the next set of sprites after one finishes doesn't need a key input.
It doesn't. but it still needs to know what set to play and you have to tell it somehow, through code.

>Besides what does the code for such a scene contain anyway?
set of actions the object can perform, calls for the visual representations of those actions and conditions that trigger them, like key input, timers, collisions etc.

>>174515746
You're going to have to be more specific.

If latency will have a large effect on the gameplay, then no.

>>174506809
>She's still wearing the sonichu medallion after all this time.

What the actual fuck is going to happen to christine when her mother dies? There's no way someone like this can possibly look after themselves in the real world, let alone have a job or be functional and I seriously doubt that there's any extended family that would take them in.

>>174515810

You have provided zero proof of this type of code being present.

It's just 100 characters running through multiple sprite frames.

>that guy who doesn't wear a suit while he gamedevs

If you dress like a degenerate slob, you'll never make any progress.

>>174515832
Xe probably has a caretaker or something, I'm sure that most NEETs here do.
My mom hired a "maid" when she started going out more but the maid barely even cleans stuff up, I'm sure my mom hired her just to take care of me.

>>174515824
Does NodeJS not deal with latency very well?
I mean, it's somewhat important but not overly and there will only ever be 4 player instances at any given time.
However there would be quite a few enemy instances at any given time.

>>174515567
I made simple games using it. It's really easy to use, both with tcp and websockets. Not sure about advanced netcode optimizing though.

>>174515918
i wear suit while i shower

>>174515882
That character is currently controlled by roughly 160 lines of code and I have zero obligation to prove anything at all to some random on 4chins

you think you're going to fucking interrogate me on how I've sweated fucking blood trying to get it running and now I just give you screenshots of all my scripts so you can take off with them?

fat chance faggot

>>174516136
>160 lines of code
Wait what? That seems like a shit load of code even if you're counting your animation calls.

>>174515918
I dev in my underwear.

Except when it's cold.

Then I put a blanket over me.

>>174516136

No I think you're full of shit.

>>174515567
Look into .NET Core. I really enjoyed using it at work. Easy to use and debug with Visual Studio.

I've also tried Golang but after having to use it at the university realized that it's a broken pile of dung to work with on Windows.

Once the time for writing my server back-end comes, I will most likely use either .NET Core or Nodejs.

>>174516115
Yeah this is the main reason I was gonna use it. Seems simple to understand and use.
Not too sure about how well it performs though and I don't want to put in the effort of implementing it and then trying something else.

>>174515760
https://mminit.itch.io/lewdest-labyrinth

>>174516136
>I just give you screenshots of all my scripts so you can take off with them?
Nobody wants your shit code. People out there have done it before and better and supplied it open source.
I'm not following this argument all the way back up this page but get off your high horse if you think anyone is going to steal your shit code after you post a screenshot. Even if they did, you should be honored that someone thought your code was actually worth stealing.

>>174516364
If you use it for simple communication, then it's perfect and performs well. However serverside physics simulation and other heavy stuff might be a different story. Still, for 4 players game it should be enough.

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>>174516608

>>174516651

Stealing his shit code to animate 100 of the same characters would be fucking useless.

>>174516742
I mean, it'd only broadcast presumably player positions, enemy positions, deaths of enemies and players and projectiles.
Might add text chat too.
So I guess it should be fine?

>>174516282
nah, that's with empty lines between important shit so I it looks cleaner
>>174516651
>I'm not following this argument all the way back
you should

>Even if they did, you should be honored
yes, I'm honored some faggot tells me I'm just playing 100 gifs with no code

>>174516960

> yes, I'm honored some faggot tells me I'm just playing 100 gifs with no code

Because you are

Is it even a good idea to enable optional donations in an itch game? The donation prompt is kinda intrusive and I feel like I would lose downloads.

>>174516950
Yep, it should be good.

>>174516930
>130 views
>61 downloads

This is really good engagement.

>>174517213
If you get a decent number of downloads you can make a not 0 amount of money.

>>174513247
>>174513507
>tfw will never make this much money with videogames

>>174517213
If someone's already clicked through to the download page, then they're committed to playing the game and aren't going to be stopped by a donation prompt.

>>174517213
Only autistic retards get triggered by seeing a donation prompt. It's not intrusive at all, so you'll be fine.

>>174517326
>>174513247
>>174513507
Have you ever marvelled at how the internet basically exists for porn and people will pay these amateurs hundreds of thousands a year to WORK on a porn game... yet porn games are basically verboten everywhere on the internet and it's basically unthinkable for even an indie studio to make a porn game unless they're japs.
Seems like there is a massive untapped market out there, especially with VR in its infancy.

What if I promised a Steam key once the game is finished to everyone who donates at least $1? Seems like a good deal.

>>174517531
Isn't it more to do with not being allowed to use Paypal for porn?

>>174517213
It's really not intrusive at all. For anything that can happen on the planet, there's some asshole who'll get triggered by it, but it's highly, highly unlikely that you would lose a statistically significant amount of downloads as a result of having a donation prompt. More likely people will just ignore it like they do with every other itch download.

>>174517584
are you sure about that?

>>174517531
Credit card companies hate porn

>>174517584
That's a common tactic. I assume it's some level of effective.

Of course, even that's not one-size-fit-all. If you've got a really promising project, you can double tap people, both getting them to donate AND buy the game.

>>174517780
Sure, why not?

>unmissable deal bait which not only encourages more donations but also generates a slightly amount of buzz
>mentioning a finished version and Steam makes you sound more professional and committed

>>174517531
Most of the vidya porn involve loli, rape, and other extreme fetishes that would be difficult to run a legitimate company around in the US. It's not technically illegal, but you'll probably still be attacked on the basis of obscenity laws and have large amounts of money extorted from you by the government until your business collapses.

Donation milestone:
$5000 - Bare minimum to get the game on steam!

>>174517584
How do steam keys work anyways? Like for a game that you buy on itch.io and offers a steam key from the itch.io purchase. Can they just make free steam keys for the people that bought from itch.io ?

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>>174518123
STOP THIS SHIT MEME

>>174518278
Itchio literally has a text box for you to paste a bunch of steam keys in, then people get given one when buying.

Not sure how it works if they bought your game before the keys exist though.

>>174518278
p sure devs can generate keys for whatever the fuck

Someone has said otherwise here, but that doesn't make sense because agdg devs used to actually *gasp* post keys for their game here on agdg.

>>174518278
Reddit tells me there's no limit in Steam keys you can generate.

Did Valve say how much it would cost to put a game on Steam after they retire Greenlight?

>>174518394
There haven't been many released games.

There was one year where we released like 10 steam games.

>>174518394
>agdg devs used to actually *gasp* post keys
To be fair there hasn't been an /agdg/ game released on Steam for a while now. Monolith looks like it's going to be the next one released.

They WILL post keys right?

>>174518460
No, they asked developers already on Steam and they said values $100 - $5000.

Jim Sterling & Totalbiscuit went to Valve to talk about the new system and they say Valve are looking at the lower end of those figures.

>>174518460
Nothing terribly specific.

>>174518394
Honestly posting keys here is a bad idea, it's unfair to the devs that actually work on their game instead of hanging out here all day and I'm sure many people have their key bots aimed at us too.
Giving keys through Discord PMs seems better.

>>174518463
>>174518543
>>174518593
I don't expect free shit from devs, I was just being melodramatic about a forgone sense of community.

>>174518593
>aiming bots at AGDG to snap up 1 key every other year

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>being in first semester of CS in college
>huh duh there's a multimedia group (they do games)
>they showcase their shit to gather new students
>shit unity garbage that uses assets store or really shit art
>they tell us we can join the group after the third year
>ask them if they need an artists (I'm an amateur, lmao)
>they tell me they really need one
>was thinking of dropping CS and starting literature and focus on art
>go to their group
>see some nerd making something like a shump
>ask him what do he need
>he tells me he needs asteroids

>after one hour of zbrush made this (needs the texture and other shit, have to pirate substance painter and other software).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KCJARD1Jvw

pls rate.

Should I keep on CS and become a 1MA?

idea guy here

it's like skyrim but it's oregon trail

>>174518682
>sense of community
Watch out, you're going to trigger some autist here with words like that.

>>174518554
>Valve are looking at the lower end of those figures so it's ok!
>Valve created the min max to start with
see: price anchoring
they got people arguing about how much money should be thrown in their face instead of whether money should be required at all. what's the purpose?

>>174518682
There's still community my man, I love you guys here <3

>>174518593
Nah, it's fine, the people getting the keys are going to be random either way. And key bots are easy to circumvent, just distort the key slightly in some way so that only a human can understand it.

>>174518771
>they got people arguing about how much money should be thrown in their face instead of whether money should be required at all. what's the purpose?

If its free, there will be MORE garbage, since its a low investment to just upload a prank or try to get some dollars for compiling the unity tutorial.

There has to be a fee, and it has to be high enough so its not worth it just uploading whatever trash and making your money back with Steam cards.

>>174518709
Stick to CS

>>174518709
>one billion tris model for a background detail
NO

>>174518709
do not study art, keep going in CS and do art. it will make u the smarter person

>>174518976
it's the zbrush sculpt retard, not the finished piece.
Still need to manually retopo it.

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>>174518709
I recommend you change your alias senpai, this shit is embarrassing.
Why the fuck would you use your dev account to post shit about le red pill and Trump? This site is 18+ only.

>>174519219
all of /pol/

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>>174519219

>>174518907
the only thing a fee assures is that the garbage will come from fat american kids.
from what i understand theyre doing a proper quality filtering thing where games are hidden initially to anyone who doesnt opt-in to being a first pass filter user and they get a few free games or something.
so once again whats the point of the fee?

>>174519219
kek faggot.

have to make a new account, this shit is old.

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Progress:
>wrote more detailed design documents
>redid ice tiles (WIP)
>added water (turned out pretty good)
>added exploding barrels
>to-do list is too huge

Also where's all progress?

>>174518709
This guy
>>174519219
is an asshole, but he makes an important point. We live in an era where any opinion that can be associated with you, no matter how trivial or offhand its issue may have been, will be used as ammunition against you. Isolate your professional life from your personal life as well as you can.

It's sad that the people who dig through reddit post histories and twitter timelines in search of something to be offended by aren't the ones ostracized.

so gamedev is 95% art right?

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>>174518543
>They WILL post keys right?
nah, fuck all yall

>>174519743
Only if you want it to be

>>174519219
what did you put on google to find this?

ca3 reddit?