Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

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Where the FUCK is Lady Vashj????

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Where the FUCK is Valee-oh there she was.

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Where the FUCK is LEEEEROOOOOY JEEEEEENKIIIINS????

Master skins were always meaningless and you """"earning"""" them in 1.0 was a waste of your time and effort :)

>>174488890
I don't know if this is shitposting but it was a huge waste of time.

>>174488816
He better be a fucking butcher skin. We don't need two heroes that are exactly the fucking same.

>>174488785
This game would be SIGNIFICANTLY better if they removed Sgt. Hammer.
Prove me wrong.
You can't.

>>174489359

t. Valeera player

>>174489359
>enemy team has hammer and/or sylvanas
>allied team wants to ARAM mid for some reason
>always lose at least one tower, sometimes two

hehe
fun :3

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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

>>174489403
What? Valeera is great vs Hammer.

LiLi is the best

>bronzies think sylvannas is a solo laner

laffin

>>174489734
>xd guys we need a specialist
Slightly triggering, desu.

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>>174488785

>>174489734
Wait don't tell me there are people who actually think that. Everyone knows she is a 4 lane cheese pushes, you'd have to be stupid to not know that.

>>174489849

Yes, it's common. People think the "go bottom solo as Sylvannas and snipe a tower" is the literal only way to play her.

It sickens me.

So, Diablo's whole shtick is setting up and facilitating ganks, right? Or is he able to go 1 vs 1 against some characters too?

>>174490019
It works if the whole enemy team comes mid as usually happens for some reason

Swann when?

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>>174489734

>ally Sylvannas leaves your team while pushing to take a camp solo

REEE WHY IS IT EVERY TIME

>>174490232
Dumb Hordeposter

>nice, I'm almost up a rank, going to have some fun matches today
>proceed to have a losing streak with laughably unorganized teams and an overall horrible gaming experience
Why do I bother with HL again?

>>174490687
Because the feeling you get when games go right in HotS makes you forget about the shitshow that it can, and usually is.

>kerrigan on my team that has the legendary skin
>can't land combos
>backs out of fights at 60% HP to Hearth
>dives into 5 when alone
>can't even combo enemy Azmodan, easiest target in the game
>she feeds in lane for 17 minutes
>we win the game without her
>"gg ez"

kill

>>174490802
Smoke and mirrors. Dopamine high. Night after night. Getting only salt.

This is not the future I asked for as a kid wishing for high-speed internet.

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Reddit said they datamined dva kerrigan tint, so dva next hero confirmed!

>>174490164
He has a surprising amount of damage, and great clear with his flame stomp.

It's not uncommon to end the game with the most hero damage on the team just by spamming flame stomp in fights.

His cc is useful for ganking and initiating a pick. In a teamfight it's usually for peeling for your backline, unless the enemy squishies are close enough for you to throw them into the back of your team. Or if you are a dive comp you can just run in and lock a squishy down.

>>174491061
It's kind of stupid but don't really hate it in any way.
That being said, I looked at the thread there was no evidence provided by the dataminer.

It most likely is legit cause would be far too much effort for a joke, just wish more information was provided.

>>174490232
>huge minion wave is about to ram into our keep towers
>move in and start clearing it out
>our specialist walks right by and starts doing a camp
>spam pings me for not helping him while he almost dies
Mercs are to supplement the rest of your gameplay. Remember to clear lanes first, kids!

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>not riding this glorious cock everywhere forever and always
What's your excuse?

>>174491680
I was out and about for work for a whole month and missed the event.

>>174491680
Anub's too big.

>>174491680
Missed the event. At least I have the golden cock.

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>>174491680
>not riding the golden cock stroked by midas
pL3b

>>174491929
Is he banging LiLi?

>>174491680
the golden one is more aesthetic.

really wish they would have added some alt colors for that mount though. that one mount during the oni event did.

>>174491680
Because I got tired of the cock jokes after the first 3 hours of the event, I don't want to fucking hear any more for a while.

>>174492090
Looks more like he is the bangee rather than the banger

>>174492257
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheLatsbrah

Heroes 2.0 needs to fucking be released already so I can get new mounts.
Zul'jin riding a horse looks just wrong.

>sgt hammer at 20 can hit the core nonstop with no counter
>it does enough damage by itself to destroy the core
Why is this allowed again?

>>174493152
I just want it for all those free stimpacks I'm gonna get, and I'll be finally able to level up my 1s.

>>174493152
So what's your goto mount in 2.0?

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I mostly play Sonya, with a bit of Reynor and Zarya thrown in and I just bought Diablo. Any suggestions on talents for him?

>>174496446
I like going for charge and overpower ones.

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how'd I do /hotsg/

I am upset with the focus on Overwatch heroes and no night elf wardens or Diablo angels.
Oh, 2.0 is finally giving us femDiablo?

Why do I never see anybody take Three Blade Style on Samuro? I feel like if the enemy is capable of it, your Images are kind of sure to be bursted down real fast after they're spawned, and this helps remedy that. Also extra scouting time of course.

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>Quickmatch matchmaking

>>174497672
>Forgot to swap it to stats
Fuck me.

>>174496880
>no diablo angels
>what is tyrael and auriel for 500

>no night elf wardens
Wow I'm glad there is only LITERALLY FUCKING 1 RELEVANT ONE IN ALL WOW LORE

>Oh no we are getting so many OW characters in a row
This would be the first 2 to be released in a row.
We've had sessions of 3 or more wow characters in a row. Stop being a faggot and just let them release whoever. Most of them will be released anyways and the release schedule for HOTS isn't that slow, so once OW finishes you can have all the shit you want.

>>174496714

>gul'dan with 36k hero damage

was he afk or something?

>>174497871
>Ctrl-F 'Malthael'
>zero results
>stopped reading

>>174497871
Fuck off, Reddit.

>>174497672

>varian going memeswords
>not taking imp charge at 4

It's like these people want to lose.

>Lose match because Nova and Probius do literally nothing but talk to each other in Russian the entire fucking match
>The first thing I see at the start of the next one is Auriel spamming shit in Russian

>>174498920
haha! dont you just love all the people coming back thanks to HotS 2.0??!!?!?!? bigger community equals a better community!!!!!!!

Tfw my mmr is so high im in gold 2 qued up with plat 2 players

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>>174499279
Now i just need to get motivated to actually bother to get to plat/diamond

>>174499279
What's your personal rank adjustment?

The ranks of people you get queued with can be a very inaccurate representation of your mmr. Personal rank adjustment is directly tied to your mmr.

How do I get gud with Johanna?

>>174499626
I think its like 80 something, I didnt check.

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This is it...

>>174500005
I believe in you anon.

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>>174500065
It was a tough journey.

I'm on Warhead junction. This is a game I can win.

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>>174500005
>>174500065
>>174500187
Maybe next time.

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>new uther is a fucking bruiser with burst heal
>nobody in HL will draft a second support to enable him

I hate being stuck in shitter league where everybody avoids support like its the plague.

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I want Samuro to be viable so badly. He's a ton of fun. Have a 20% win rate with him in masters league this season, so maybe its time to retire him altogether. :(

>>174489359
they should just remove her Z
it's not even OP or anything, it just bugs me out how a fucking siege tank of all things has such a retarded escape even while sieged up.
Also remove hover siege.
Also make her bigger
Also remove hammer and put in duke.

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>>174499814
Correction its like 50

>>174501448
>bruiser

You what?
Isn't his damage still pitiful?

>>174502114
holy shock is a viable thing now.

>>174502070
Then yeah you prob belong in plat or low diamond.

I get +50 points in D1 and from what I've seen with regards to whom I get the crown over, I've got ~top 200 mmr, maybe a tad lower.

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Let's try that again.

>>174502535
I hope you actually succeed. Twice now I've failed promotions, not even fucking kidding you, purely due to disconnects, not rage-quits but actual connection issues. I can't even fucking muster the strength to go back and try again,just fuck it. HL is a grind anyway.

man tufferfish -> slippery when wet -> rejuv bubble -> fish oil is such a fun fucking build i can't believe ive done nothing but build for Q all this time

>>174501697
They compensate for that by making her hitbox absolutely massive. It's hard not to accidentally kill Hammer in team fights. No nerfs needed.

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>>174503003
>no nerfs needed
All blizzard did since september 2014 was nerf her.
All buffs she ever recieved were general talents being buffed.
Thrusters recieved a major nerf just last year so if you complain about hammer at this point its a severe case of GIT GUD

Hammer is one of the more cancer heros to play against post 20.

tfw you MULE your core from 4% to 100%

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>>174503465
>not nazeebo
>not leoric

>>174503465
I think you misspelled Hammer and meant to say Nazeebo.

>get to level 20
>win

This kind of ticking time bomb cancer is not fun to play with or against.

Hi /hotsg/

How long does it take to get 15k gold? I only play HotS when a new Overwatch hero comes out

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that feel when turning it up to eleven
etc is so fuckin fun now

>>174504176
kys

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AGDQ were on our way
the right comp could probably get it under 2:30 or even 2 easily.

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>>174502756
I'll get there.

>>174504612
Why?

>>174504928
Gold mostly.
You figure the average game takes atleast 20 minutes
With a good speedrun group for vs ai you could get 100 gold instead of 20-30 gold

>>174504915
Oh my god I fucking KNEW it, man. I fucking KNEW that would happen to you. I cannot stand that shit. You probably did pretty decently that game, didn't you? Fuck this matchmaking man, I'm sorry.

>>174488785
>3 specialists
>1 valeera
>1 random chromie
Usual quality match.

When will they give Nova an actual rework? It's fucking sad.

>first game of the day
>3 people reported for abusive chat
I see it's going to be great 8 games again today

>>174505250
Yeah, but even with the losses, I know I'll get there again.

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>>174506071
>watch a pro streaming on twitch after reading lots of recommendations him being a good source of game knowledge
>turns into a salt mine after two games, reporting his team for AFK and feeding

>>174506071
>2nd game
>literally lost it couple minutes into the match
Matchmaking doing it's magic again after a decent win streak before

>>174493232
>sgt hammer at 20 can hit the core nonstop with no counter
Because picking a hero for their lv 20 perk is totally reasonable in most drafting situations right?

>it does enough damage by itself to destroy the core
It does not. Solo BFG cannot outdamage the shield regeneration at all. It can destroy the turret towers and forts and keeps and shit but never the Core. It is impossible to afk kill the Core with just the ult alone.

>>174506627
BFG is even worse than it used to be in terms of passive pushing.
After the building buffs BFG got buffed too but it still deals less % dmg than it used to.

>>174506574
>3rd game
>lost in loading screen
Oh yay

>>174506742
why not play with someone from /vg/ ?
we are no pros but at least not as shit as the rest of the random crowd plus exp bonus means more loot chests in the future.

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>>174506742
Here are the teams btw

>>174506819
Because you guys are bronze faggots

>>174506913
you play quick match you have no reason to complain about skill level you whiny little shit

>>174506958
>implying blizzard can't make the matchmaking better

How to get out of gold?

>>174505250
Well, considering he unironically bronze-picked Azmodan the first time...

>>174507239
Make a new account and get diamond 3 after placements

>>174507239
Main tracer

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>>174506913
Nova
Probius
Gazlowe
Murky (To some extent, not as much as the rest)
TLV
Rexxar
Leoric
Stitches

These are the heroes you absolutely cannot play in QM because, in your case, which happens to me every single time I play Gazlowe, not fucking kidding, you'll get, say an Abathur and a Probius on your team. And you're stuck sitting there taking a good fucking just because you felt like playing something that's a bit more fun and colorful rather than the typical straightforward bullshit.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, as I was typing this post I was queued as Gazlowe, and look at this shit. You seriously cannot play some heroes, or else the matchmaker tells you you're a fag for playing the game, and fucks with you hard.

does dragonblade reset the cd on genji's E like it does in overwatch?

>>174507283
It was a decent pick, I did well, it's just that the enemy drafted a better comp with more frontliners.

Why don't they just put Kelthuzad in anyway? He's one of the most important figures in both Warcraft and WoW and he's even on the cover of Warcraft 3.

>>174506515
who?

>>174507450
...Which makes it not a decent pick at all. Not first pick, not last pick.

>>174507551
adrd

>>174507597
I've never watched him but I know HL is an absolute shit show atm, matchmaking is so busted.

>>174507640
his commentary consists mostly of whats the most effective move and explaining why he does the thing he does right now mixed with complaining about blizzard shitty balancing.

I also dont understand how you can complain about matchmaking in HL.
you get players with the same rank as yours.

>>174507450
when is azmodan ever a decent pick?
his team fight value is one of the lowest of all specialists.

>>174507747
>you get players with the same rank as yours.

er, no you don't. I've seen tons of matches where GM players are lumped in with diamond and plat players. That's the problem.

>>174507797
Literally nowhere beyond gold ranks, because no enemy team would go 4 poke heroes that you could outrange with no frontline for it to be worth it.

If you've ever watched a pro game with Azmodan, it's always been a loss.

>>174488531
>its a multi-class episode
when will this meme end? are they just going to throw 'warrior' into everything instead of just making defined roles?

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>>174489808
what is this?

>>174508298
>he doesn't know

>>174508298
April fool's joke, it's nothing.

>they think abathur is a "sustainer"
>the same role as medivh
>they think abathur and medivh are about equal

lmao these devs know fuck all

>played 5 games
>still havent got my first win of the day

lads how do I move while casting azmodan beam

>>174509009
Wasd, obviously.

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>when the enemy malf dcs in a ranked game and you get a free win

>20 game win streak as valeera
>15 game loss streak as nova
Time to play Valeera again

Tfw you end a loss with 71% of the teams siege damage but you were blamed for the loss

>>174509804
Because Nova is garbage who can't do a single fucking thing.

>>174509804
It's called power creep

>>174510028
>>174510052
It's Nova being shit and matchmaking forcing 50/50

>>174509804
See
>>174507396


You are punished for picking her. She can't contribute to fights unless she has a Warrior and a Support to hold a fight while she sneaks around back to do whatever, unlike pussy ass Zeratul or Valeera who can contribute safely regardless of what their comp is. Though, even in ideal situations, Nova still isn't worth playing over those two, so whatever.

>>174509804
Valeera is just a better nova BEFORE novas rework. She is far worse in qm than nova ever was

>>174510028
She used to be pretty good if you knew how to build her, Now shes pretty meh unless you take snipe mastery and get really careful with your Qs

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What are the epic changes that are shaking hots to the core? It's all just cosmetics right? The only actual core changes I remember them doing since beta was like the minion/cata, with the tower damage, well and globe changes that was like 6 months ago though.

>>174488531
Is this game worth playing?
I played back in alpha or beta or something and it was fun for a week and then got boring.
I heard there was a huge update soon, how is it looking? Should I try the game out now or after the update? Will the payment model change, because being used to Dota 2 that's a big minus.

>>174510504
It's just an epic rebranding in an attempt to lure people back after their catastrophic failure of a launch 2 years ago.

>>174510639
Techincally payment model is changing since now in addition to getting your gold to unlock characters you get lootboxes as well that can drop anything even the 20 dollar skins.

So techincally its even a better payment model that dota.
>>174510698
Thats heavily due to shit like the stupid dunkey video where people let others form an opinion for them.

>>174510639
You still have to buy heroes if that's what you mean by the payment model, but the only thing that is actually changing in 2.0 is how you get cosmetics. You get them in overwatch lootbox style so you can get skins for free now with that system as opposed to them being only purchasable before.

So what is this leak everyone is making predictions off for the new hero? Something about a French gaming channel? Anyone got a screenshot?

>>174510934
the french hots website had used feminine words to describe the next hero. Think it has switched since but nothing major.

>>174510865
Blizzard definitely handled their long beta terribly, overwatch learned a lesson from them and had a much shorter beta while also marketing it. Blizzard forgot to promote hots while it was in beta and just had some shitty launch party in england for an hour. It's not heavily due to youtube videos, it's heavily due to blizzard's incompetence in how they promoted the game and how they ran the beta.

>>174510865
It's funny because the dunky video was completely satirical, considering how wrong and exaggerating he was about several things

>>174511168
Yeah but, are you really going to expect your average Youtuber to discern what's satire, embellished, and outright just made up for "comedic effect"? I don't know if you noticed, but young people aren't all that bright.

Well, people in general aren't all that bright, but less so the younger they are.

>>174510978
It's still there, anon. Also didn't they basically leak the shit that is D.va and the trailer being about some korean moba fantasy?

>>174511239
>watches youtube satire
>takes it seriously
it's an interesting life ahead for these people

>>174511013

That plus for even a year after launch hots was still essentially in beta, season 1 didn't even start until a year after launch. The alpha/beta had tons of changes so playing early in the alpha then in the beta was like a different game with a lot of graphical upgrades. The game wasn't even ready when they launched it, but it was just in beta for way too long and they needed to get something out.

>>174501464

Play him only as illusion master PVE asshole on blackhearts, garden, and Dragon and youre winrate will go up

>>174509874

Seige is worthless if your team loses the objectives, autismo splitpusher chan

>>174493152
>Zul'jin riding a horse looks just wrong.
Then have him rid something else, like the battle beast

>>174511851
or my dick tazdingo!!!! haha

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Tried so hard
got so far
but in the end

>>174512051
Your problem was two people decided they actually wanted to play Nova and Probius. HotS matchmaking frowns upon this behavior, and you had to suffer for it.

>>174510330
zeratul is a better valera tho

>>174507408

Yes

>>174512205
I had 42% of our teamfight damage
forty
two
percent

>>174507396
Does QM have different levels of matchmaking? I've had some success with split pushing/soaking on TLV. I go Grubby's build:

>Bribery if good mercs, Explosive Attacks if not
>Merc Lord if I got Bribery, Erik the Swift otherwise
>Spin2Win
>Play Again
>Jump
>Large and In Charge, start having Olaf join fights while the other two are ratting
>Fury of the Storm

Then again, I make Azmodan work in QM so take that how you will.

>>174512279
Not in QM, valeera one shots people so much easier. zera is good for his utility

>>174503558
>leoric
I won a 1v1 fight against Leoric at level 21 using Reghar.

>>174512454
It doesn't. The game runs of team-average MMR, not individual MMR, and because it isn't Ranked, it isn't being forced to pull from players within set brackets (Although even with these brackets, it's obvious skill levels vary greatly in each division's population)

So because it doesn't have this sort of restriction on it, it'll pull whoever the fuck it wants to full out your team. Like according to Hotslogs, my QM MMR is in the top 150 or so highest "MMR" QM players, yet every game I'm matched with people nearly an entire 1k MMR under me, though this is just going by Hotslogs' bullshit. Shit like that.

But to top it off, for SOME reason the system seems to favor putting Specialists together, which is why Gazlowes are ALWAYS matched with Probiuses and Azmodans and shit, and then it seems to like to give Supports to teams that already have Supports, so you end up doubling down on roles quite a lot. Something about it has been especially bad this last two weeks.

I've said it before, but there's an easy fix to this shit but they just won't do it. They for some reason want NOT give you the option of having a better matchmaking system in exchange for longer queue times. They want you to get matches VERY fast, and of poor quality. I'm assuming it's some ploy to try to push people into playing more HL or some shit.

>>174513054
Then you faced a very shit Leoric

>>174513060
Ranked is pretty bad too.
I get matched with people a full grade above me and get penalized just the same if they lose.
Makes grinding my way up a really daunting task.

>>174513423
I'm assuming the biggest reasoning behind all of the promotional shit they're doing to try and get more players in, is to help solve the matchmaking issue.

Montsh and months and months ago, some anon had posted saying "I know you guys want an individual MMR based system but sadly we just don't have the players to do that right now." I always thought it was possibly the leakbro, or somebody else who worked for Blizzard who may lurk around here from time to time. But, assuming that was a legit statement from someone who would know, I'm willing to bet they're hoping for more players so they can actually fix their MMR shit.

>>174512460
yeah both have their pros and cons, but i think zera is better at high level play, like u say valeera is better at lower elos

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>>174510218
i alt f4 every time i see a nova on my team
i'm not wasting 15 minutes of my time for a single shitter to throw the game before the match even starts

>>174513572
that's completely stupid though, why sacrifice game quality just to make sure you get a game. I bet a lot of people quit HL because they get matched with people 2 ranks lower and have shit games because of it.

>>174512051
that 0/10 probius

>>174513901
>-300 (Loss)
>+100 (Opponent Favored Heavily)
>+20 (Personal Adjustment

>>174513901
Nobody really knows.Some months ago they did some "tweak" to the QM matchmaking so that it would be MUCH faster finding games, and it definitely is much faster, because you used to wait for up to 4 minutes or so sometimes. However, ever since then, the quality has slowly gotten worse.

>>174513848
>their nova actually gets kills
>your nova sucks and throws the game

I Cri Evrytiem

>>174514114
>their nova 22 killshots
>yours literally 1
>your team keeps focusing their decoys with abilities
>your nova gets killed like a decoy
???

so i assume one of your nerds had figured this out.
i am bad at these thought experiments.
is it better to open the regular chests before the veteran chests or vice versa?

>>174514185
Why don't you give it some thought yourself first? Say you open a legendary chest first, you can reroll it to your liking.

Then you open a common chest and you get the exact same drop. Are you content with 400 shards or would you rather have wanted something else?

>>174514252
one would want the maximum amount of legendary skins.

>>174514414
Then of course you would open the ones you can reroll to your liking last, wouldn't you.

>>174513848
Everyone who has Nova in his top 3 played heroes should get insta banned

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>>174514479
didn't know that you couldn't reroll veteran chests.

>>174514535
...I'm saying leave the veteran chests last because you can reroll them for a guaranteed legendary each time.

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Reminder some shit gets announced today

>>174514185
>>174514535
I'm guessing you're low ranked as fuck at this game being this slow.

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>>174514628
>inb4 friend event with lucio, zarya & tracer for free

>>174514515
>not picking heroes based on how much you like their character and lore
>>174514690
i'm platin 5 after 15 ranked games, no idea if that's high or not... i don't play much ranked.

>>174514795
If anything it's something related to referring a friend.

>>174514801
Thought so. 6+ deaths every game isn't normal, and it's the only way to get such ranks.

>>174507239
specialist splitpush cheese

>>174514942
i did some math, average deaths 3.133
i think i am usually doing okay.

>>174491061
Apparently there are a load of skins hidden in 2.0 that haven't revealed yet.

>>174491339
Later in the thread someone else points out how it's been there since 2.0 beta first started and shows the pathing to find it.

>>174515160
Three is upper level of deaths for diamond anon
I wasnt paying attention to the rest of this conversation but you should really be trying not to die more than twice a game.

>>174515423
stop trolling him already...

>>174515574
It depends a lot on context for your deaths of course, But if you're dying more than twice a game without your team you're doing badly.
If your entire team gets wiped then its different than if just you die, understand?

>>174514628
Probably a recruit-a-friend or overwatch crossover. If it's an overwatch crossover I'm sure that means the next hero will be overwatch as well so probably dva.

>>174515160
Where'd you even pull that number from?

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>>174515843
>profile
>statistics
>apply pic related filters
>add up deaths
>divide by number of games played
and you get your average deaths.

>>174491061
Any faggot can repaint the model, fake news

>>174515972
an actual statistics page when? blizzbabbies cant handle it but cmon, not even 2.0 has it

>>174515160
I probably have 5 deaths average and I'm diamond

Do all Illidans have a secret quest at level 1 to die at least 10 times?

>>174516706
pretty sure that's Leorics quest.

>>174516706
Not even death can stop him

>>174516485
But you're also probably not a pussy who doesn't join teamfights.

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>Looking through old reworks
>Nova rework
I'd say that they failed

>>174517281
Nova had the same problem Valeera currently has, and some are predicting Genji to have.
Absolutely destroys noobs, not very good for anyone who actually learns to play.
The reddits, the b.net forums, and so on all constantly and consistently bitch about her because "she destroys QM" when really it should be reasonable for people to learn how to adjust to stealthies.

>dota steals talentd and healing fountains
>now league steals pushing merc camps

laffin @ them

Anyone on EU wanna play Quick Matches or Unranked Draft in party for bonus XP? Add me - VANOMAS#21807, I'm leveling a smurf. Be at least D5. Don't want to play with the really dumb guys

>>174517824
I wish they'd steal overcancer and never return it

>>174517825
Why level a smurf now?

>>174517825
>at least D5
gl with that. eu /vg/ is plat5 at best.

>>174518042
i dont care about loot boxes

>>174518072
>be EU master
explains the level of conversation here

>>174518072
There's 4 EU GMs in /hotsg/ and around 4 more masters.

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im about 393 levels done in 1.5k games since alpha
i have never tried HL
is it worth it?
how should i draft?
any advice

>>174519845

Drafting is a skill. Learn the basics from watching some of grubbys videos on youtube.

>>174519573
those are all my different accounts btw

>>174519845
Picking to block/deny their pick always works pretty well.

>>174519915
literally pick core for the map 1-2 add a good overall character 3 and counter pick 4-5

>>174519845
hero league if pretty fun, you won't get shittalked as long as you don't pick a hero thats already countered by the enemy team.

>>174519489

What is happening in this image?

>>174520135
For fucks sake.

>>174520332
It's quite the bias going on here. Kind of expected from an anime faggots board. They do it 4 free.

>>174520332
its obvious that mods have been cucked by jug of 1000 cucks more than once

>>174519915
>>174519982
>>174520075
>>174520134
Thanks my dudes.
Too bad i never bothered to remember what heroes are good for specific maps. Doesnt help that they change it with reworks and patches too.
The only advice i remember from HL launch is to not play as support in the placement matches, is this still true?

>>174520332
>>174520406
>furries BTFO
this is the natural order you fags

>>174520406
>>174520408

Do they not get that Li Li is a character in this game therefore relevant to the thread?

Sonic general and undertale post fucking porn all the time and never get messed with.

>>174520332
They're relying on the "no furry" rule or some shit, but how is Li Li posting furryposting?

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>>174520332
You shouldn't be posting degenerate furry pedo fanart anyway.

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>Ask my team for a second tank
>"No we need more damage for immortals"
>Lose every teamfight
>Lose every immortal
>Dipsticks keep dying to nova while i'm getting my ass beat by diablo+Leoric
>have our core down to 30% and all our keeps are gone
>By some miracle the enemy team throws and we end up winning an immortal
>Take fort, keep and core down to 3% before we all die
>They can end right there but they wait for their fifth and in the meantime we all spawn
>Red team has now dropped all their spaghetti and doesn't even touch our core shield before getting wiped.
>Walk up to their core and finish the game
Felt like i was playing QM instead of ranked.

>>174520514
We're literally not allowed to discuss this one character using images.

Time to start a new wave of Greymane posting, too bad he's just not as popular in fan art.

>>174520332

must be because i have been a week and i cant stand furry porn so i reported and i will be reported the time i stay here.

>>174520479

No, play to create team synergy and power over the map. If that means you play support because you're most comfortable doing that then do it.

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thanks whoever recommended alarak over greymane yesterday, he's fun as fuck. surprisingly really tanky too.

>>174520332
It's because some autismo avatar fags with her all the time, which is against da rules

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I want moot back

>>174521374
The fuck did I miss? Which one did you plop down?

>>174518019
Gettin mad cuz you can't afford actual vidya games.

Get off the library's computer m8.

of malfurion, tassidar, tyrande, tyrael, johanna, sonya, or uther, who should I get?

I pretty much only play supports and warriors

>>174521374
Mooooooooooooot

this fucking "details unlock" thing is such bullshit on blizzards part. Just release the fucking 2.0 already, only a handful of people care.

>you can be a useless piece of shit all game but as long as you don't die you can blame everyone else for dying

i love this meme

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>Blinding Wind
>Cooldown decreased from 10 to 8 seconds
>Mana cost reduced from 40 to 30
>Damage increased from 132 to 140

li li can break more wind now.

BRAAAP

>>174522206
if he was a specialist and had both highest siege and exp and hero damage is it still wrong?

>>174522206
There are two types of players. Pussies and Illidan.

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Give me your fucking LiLis

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>>174522346
Top tier post, anon!

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>>174522408
why the fuck 80% of my captchas consist of calle

Time to settle this once and for all!

Who is the best healer in the game? Keep in mind that any answer that is not Auriel is objectively wrong.

>>174517534
I dislike that they balance around you seeing the 'shimmer' when some people have bad eyesight.
Some people can see it 100% of the time, I have to stop and look hard to see it.

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>>174522614
Lili

>>174522614
once morales gets new talents, it will be morales.
her current talents are so fucking boring.

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>>174522346
>assassin lili gets a massive buff
pls no i dont want shitters doing my job badly
Why do i still have images from september of 2015?

>>174517824
>league steals pushing merc camps
wut?

>>174520601
>gold drafts
How did Jaina even manage to die

>>174522861
new rift herald is basically a boss camp that will push a lane

>>174522937
After a while i realised that even if i peeled for my backline they'd die to nova so i stopped peeling and started chasing their backline. my dps where still dropping like flies but Jaina and malf now died more often

>>174522614
I still say Malf.

>>174522937
Jaina has to get in close to use her spells and they have 3 ranged damage dealers

i wonder if i should throw my placements by doing some really dumb shit like healer abathur or splitpush decoy nova.

Oh I get it now

every hero in the nexus is based on their 'prime' self

>>174522532
is this bullying?

>>174523345
then why isnt diablo a girl?

Because although D3 diablo had all the power of the other lords of hell, they were objectively weaker than D2 diablo because they used a woman with no training as their host.

D3 Diablo would have been unbeatable if Aiden had had a son instead.

>>174523796
I don't really think that the biology of the host played a role in anything

>>174523796
mean to quote
>>174523345

>>174523379

Everything that Alarak says is bullying.

when announcement

>>174523912
>ywn be bullied by Alarak

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Where is my info?

>try HL
>889 seconds que
I guess ill stick to the QM thanks

>>174524221
.your face when its an announcement of an announcement of an event.

>>174523912
>>174524205

>when alarak encounters tassadar

http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/vo/vo_hero/Alarak/Alarak%20-%20Default/AlarakBase_IntroQuestion_Tassadar00.mp3

>>174523168
3 backline should never ever ever ever be able to threaten a 2 tank backline. Especially since their killtarget is Arthas. Arthas gets chewed through by Jaina and Leoric while Diablo fucks any of their backline who tries anything funny.

>>174524701
Jaina has to get very close to use her cone and blizzard, she has to be in the front to hit abilities, and with a nova she is the top target and really only damage dealer

>>174524921
Malf-Jaina-Diablo+Leroic >< Arthas-Backline
That's how a fight should be. If any of their backline moves close enough to fuck Jaina they're exposed to Diablo. A Diablo on them fucks them instantly with Jaina and Nova dmg.

Now in practice it's even more extreme because Diablo should be flanking and their backline doesn't have the freedom to hit Jaina with a Diablo up close.

>>174522153
please help me

>>174525075
You keep forgetting that their abilities are longer range than Jaina's outside of her fb so if she goes into range to do damage they can hit her even before she can hit them

>>174522153
>I pretty much only play supports and warriors
So you just dick around mid for a counterproductive 5v5 feedfest until you lose because you only know how to endless throw your body at the enemy or run away?

Any of the ones you listed are perfect for that.

>>174525242
Long range flamestrikes together with Falstad qs and Tychus nades are pressure but not kill pressure. They can't secure kills on Jaina if they don't move up.

>>174523912
I am garbage with Alarak but I love his sass so much.
>You can SEE this Hero, yes? Then KILL them.

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AAAAND.... of course it's fucking nothing

And for a moment I thought they'd show some new skins today, since we haven't had an In Developement video since Lucio and Sex Goddess Tyrande (Probius doesn't count, since it didn't show anything more than the probe)

>>174525421
Jaina has to move to them to actually do damage, she is the shortest range mage that needs to get inside their damage radius to use her abilities other than fb

>>174522153
tassadar :dDdddd

>>174525630
But she doesn't need to hit anything but Arthas. Arthas is that team's kill target. Once Arthas icebound fortitude is down he doesn't have anything to survive Jaina burst. Leoric w + Diablo wallcharges + Nova and Jaina burst are enough to melt him through his army. Once ROF hits on him he just dies. They don't have the single target healing to keep him up. It gets even more extreme since a Twilight Dream by itself kills him and Malf doesn't have to take any risks to get in range.

>get max range grab with artanis q+e
>enemy lands right into 4 of my team
>they dont do anything about it and let him walk away

WHY

>>174524603
>that chuckle

beast

>>174525593
>AAAAND.... of course it's fucking nothing
What did you expect in the first place?

>>174525593
>click the big picture
>it redirects back to the hots main page

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>>174526247
I literally said it in the same post: I expected 2 or 3 new skins and bundles with them, like they used to do every so often

>>174526597
how can you see the bundles? i just get redirected

>>174526597
>that cinematic
Fucking nothing happened. Why is Blizzard being boring with all of their shit.

>>174526676
>>174525593

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/megabundles/

The Patch just went through.

>>174526889
completly broken for me but cheers anon. so they expect us to buy this instead of skins?

>>174526889
>free just for logging in
>F R E E

hell yea

>>174526889
>*Limited time offer. Mega Bundles will be available following the launch of Heroes of the Storm 2.0 in your region, lasting until May 22, 2017. All players who log in to Heroes of the Storm during that timeframe will automatically receive 100 Gems, which can be used to permanently unlock one (1) Mega Bundle of their choosing. Choose wisely! Once you have unlocked one of the four Mega Bundles described above, the other three will become unavailable.
Dope, altough every new player will probably end up going for the assasin bundle

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>>174526889
>The Lost Vikings
>Role: Tank

>>174527261
>automatically receive 100 Gems
Oh, I hope that means I don't have to actually spend it on any of the bundles. I already have most of the heroes I care to own.

>>174527261
I'm new and I'm going for the support bundle

>Uther's tooltips aren't updated
yeah nice patch Blizz

>>174526889

at least 10 heroes i dont have in every bundle. i would like to start playing abathur.

>>174527462
Aren't even the cheapest heroes like 250 gems individually though?

why the auriel nerf though?

>>174527261
i might grab tank and bruiser bundle

>>174527549
I haven't actually looked at the prices on the PTR, so I don't know. Thing is I have plenty of gold for buying heroes, and can't gems be used for other shit?

>>174527261
Sounds like a trap, even if u don't have the heroes. Invest in gems. Stockpile that jazz up for when 2.0 doesn't go the way they want it to and get desperate enough to quadrupal the value of gems even further.

The new bundles give heroes new roles as well. instead of Warrior, Assasin, Support, Specialist they are more detailed.

>>174527462
>Heroes cost 200-750 gems
it's a fucking bargain mate.
even if you only get 1 new hero it's a steal.

>get a 4man stack in qm
>they fucking suck

Why would you agree to play with other people if you know they are stupid? Friendship can only go so far.

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>>174527851
Gems are used to buy heroes and weekly featured cosmetic items. what is currently the weekly sale bundle will be a weekly purchasable with gems bundle

>>174527897
>Heroes are 200-750 gems
>give everyone 100 gems and let them buy a 20 hero pack with it.
>"muh jews"

>>174527897
>>174528205
>"muh jews"

kek
You know, I am kind of impressed that someone actually managed to turn a bundle with a bunch of free 10k heroes you get for fucking LOGGING IN into "muh jews" but they did.
Unless Anon is pretending to be retarded, of course.

How the fuck do I play Probius without sucking?

Are Murky, Jaina, and Cho'Gall the only ones not in a bundle?

Playing since 2 years. Gonna get 8 heroes with Assassin bundle.

>>174527965
That's the thing. I already have everyone I really want to play.

>>174526889
Gonna be getting 14 heroes with the support bundle.

>>174526889
If these are meant to be targeted towards newer players they really should have excluded some of the harder/weird heroes like aba or vikings.

I appreciate what they're doing though. I'll take the free hero and not complain about it.

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is this a new thing?

>>174528496
At first glance

Probably not in because they're new:
Probious, Cassia, Genji

The rest that aren't in any bundle:
Cho'Gall, Gazlowe, Jaina, Mukry, Sgt. Hammer, Tyrande, Zagara.

>>174527503
Uther himself is not updated, not in my game anyway.

>>174526889
>no tyrande in support bundle
what did they mean by this?

>>174526889
First person to complain about literally getting a bunch of free heroes gets a swift kick in the dick

>>174529025
not enough room for dat ass

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>>174526889
>free stuff
Hell yeah.

>>174529106
There'll always be somebody.

>>174529106
They should've given us 40 free heroes.

>>174514801
>Nova
>lore
her lore is taking dicks in her asshole and losing to Kerrigan in every way possible

>>174528932
No.

>own every hero

ive been cheated

>>174526889
so which one of these is most gold efficient?
or does each one have the same gold value?

>>174526889
Man, this is unfair as fuck to anyone who already has all the heroes.

>>174529345
>100 free gems

>>174526889
retards saying hots wasn't dying btfo yet again.

>>174527503
haven't had time to buff the dogshit they put on for test yet.

>>174529345
2.0 is basically "we're done gaping the elitist early adopters' assholes, time for fresh meat"

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>>174529575
>>174529345
I just can't.

>>174529625
Yeah, that's what it seems like. Whatever. Free stuff for smurf accounts. Maybe a few friends'll come try out the game noww.

>>174526889
I own nearly every hero and I'm still getting 4 heroes for 100 gems with this, holy shit. What a generous offer.
Only heroes I don't own are Tracer, Chromie, Cassia, Alarak, Medivh, Probius, Dehaka, Zul'jin, and Samuro. (And Genji obviously.) Tracer, Alarak, Zul'jin, and Chromie come from the assassin pack.
I have enough gold to buy the rest after I get those four.. I get to join the "own every hero" club after two years, neat.
(Or not because I'm still not buying Medivh. Fuck Medivh.)

>reinstall because of 2.0 interest
>still a bitching Alarak player

Feels good coming back to the game 6 months later and getting 20% higher than the average player notification

>>174529606
>100 gems that are worth exactly $1
>meanwhile, new players get around 10.000 gems worth of heroes, which is $100 FOR FREE

>>174529625
Ah there it is. >>174529106

Giving out free heroes as the roster continues to balloon is an entirely sensible decision on the back of a huge relaunch and is not indicative of desperation or "teh game dying"

>tfw will get 104k worth of gold from sin pack
>most heroes i'll are good mages that i didnt have the shekels to buy
holy shit

>>174529110
>tyrande and valeera will never take turns sitting on my face

>>174529106
They should let us choose the heroes, not the bundles

>>174529625
>Blizzard giving free heroes for an event
>durr hurr ded gaem

You missed /v/ by a little, friend.

>>174529872
I honestly can't see who would complain about this.
If you own every hero already.. What more could they give you without creating a completely disproportionate reward? Clearly you already like this game enough to get every hero. Keep.. playing?
If you don't.. hey, good chance you're getting a hero from this. Even a single hero is nice for free, yo. (I'm here. Despite playing for two years, I'm missing a few, and still getting a small handful.)
If you're new.. hey, you get 1/3rd the cast for free! You don't have to be intimidated at unlocking a bunch of crucial picks and can now start the game at your own pace.
If you're old but returning.. Hey, here's a bunch of those heroes you missed.

It's like.. are people angry they don't get a present which they already possess? I at least could understand the anger about the loot crates veteran 'rewards' for 2.0 but I can't understand this at all. This is amazing.

>>174530170

I have friends who didn't play this game because they couldn't unlock the giy they wanted immediately. This change and loot boxes brought them back. It's only positive.