/fog/ - Fallout General

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So, which game has your favorite Deathclaw art /fog/?

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>>174478267
>frontier
this shit ever gonna come out?

>>174478494
Is anyone actually still interested in Frontier after all those shit trailers they have put out?

I am still questioning why did a lot of effort when into this instead of making more legion content

>>174478559
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2TOQIRF7fU
they just put this out

>>174478839
Why does EVERY SINGLE Frontier trailer reek off
>ARE WE MGSV YET!

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>it's a "attempt to remake fo1/2 in gamebryo that will enevitably not go anywhere refuses to release their assets" episode

>>174479268
Remaking Fallout 1/2 on a new engine shouldn't be THAT hard since they have about 1/50th the shit in them as a modern Fallout game does.

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>>174479268
>refuses to release their assets
FUCKING REEEEEE

THEIR WATTZ PISTOL AND PULSE RIFLES ARE FUCKING GOD TIER

>>174478267
anything that lets me take the NPC robots as Automatron Companions out there?

i feel like taking Goodfeels out for a stroll.

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>>174479540
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/users/5524899/?tb=images&pUp=1
>last upload was a year ago

>>174479669
There is a mod to make Goodfeels (and other named robot npcs) automatron robots, but I don't remember whether or not it allowed you to take them as companions.

Certainly not normal bots you find in the wasteland, no.

>>174478627
Nah, New Vegas Nexus can be just as bad.
>>174478389
FO3 & NV in-game depictions are my favorite. FO4 is alright but the mouth and tiny eyes kind of annoy me (looks like a classic T-Rex depiction too much).
>>174478839
>I am still questioning why did a lot of effort when into this instead of making more legion content
What would be good Legion content, though? I mean as far as context? Frankly asking because I've wanted to do something like that but never really been able to figure on a solid gameplay.

>>174479268

Fucking RUskies

>>174479268
why do they do this?

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is it time to post things found in nexus images that will probably never see the light of day?

>>174480136
Legion content would be boring as fuck.

Sawyer has already said shit like raiders, and mutant animals, aren't a problem in Legion lands because Caesar has a zero tolerance policy.

And food, water, and power are supposed to flow to the handful of non tribal communities in the region.

And the Legion has basically no corruption ebcuase Caesar deals with it harshly, even by Legion standards.

All Legion content would be is a glorified walking simulation through a few small towns with Legion flags all over the place, and a few Legion officers looking over the town.

>>174480310
whats this supposed to be

>>174480403
i dunno, power armor
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/images/95187/?
i thought it looked nice

>>174480136
Before making this I thought I liked 4's model best, but when putting side by side with 3's it's just lacking.
The face doesn't look menacing, the teeth don't look shabrp enough, the CLAWS of the deathCLAW aren't big enough, even the horns look worse than 3.
The animations though, they're definetely 5000% better.

Also that 50's godzilla one on the manual just cracked me up.

>>174480310
What's that supposed to be?

>>174480136
idk maybe interview Josh since he is the one that keep mention "muh more legion content" whenever he is asked "What else would you have wanted to add to FNV?"

but here are ideas and this is all possible if the same effort that went into the frontier went into this ideas

>Legion city
>tons of legion quests in Legion city
>help rebellion inside or help quell rebellious people
>put interesting stuff that wants the player comeback (chariot racing, horse racing betting)
>at least 3 legion companions with companion quests where you could make them leave the legion or make them murdering machines (one female presumably a slave)
>use east of colorado for legion camp
>Better legion overhaul like the NCR from dragbody (fuck you caesars new regime)
Caesar's goal is to eventually make a civilian society, so might as well show a bit of what he means.

pls dont bully me

>>174478389
I like Fallout 4's the best.

Fallout 3 has the one clostest to the originals, but it also highlights all the problem of the original Fallout's design being way too cartoony looking once ported into 3d.

Fallout 4's design actually looks like something that could exist, or least, is far closer to looking like it.

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http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/users/39950995/?tb=images&pUp=1
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/users/2331486/?tb=images&pUp=1
hype

>>174480338
There are always dissidents
There is always an underground community
There are always black markets
There are always corrupt officials
There are always things that the government can hide even in a "perfect society"
This would be very interesting topics to explore to show that even with those standards, there is degeneracy in the anti degenerates.

>>174479394
>>174479268
One thing I've noticed from that project, is the idea of accurate recreation of everything is a mistake, especially of the gameworld. Like the video of their Arroyo cells, it looks great as a recreation, very accurate, extremely familiar, but the problem is why would you completely recreate flat isometic maps in a 3D worldspace? It's a bit of a waste to port everything as-is, since the tile-based engine limited the geography of the game maps. New Reno, maybe San Francisco, and places like the Oil Platform could be done well in 3D as is-maybe, but in general they should make some changes to maps to take advantage of the 3D engines. I don't know how likely that would be though because for them to be devoted to such a project I'm sure they'd want to be as "accurate" as possible and any modifications to map and world design beyond the flat base of the classic isometric model might rub people the wrong way.

>>174480793
Not in Sawyer's version of the Legion

In Legion lands
-There is no corruption because everyone is too loyal to Caesar, or too afraid of retribution

-None of the people he has conquered care that the Legion controls their lives, because, before the Legion came, their lives were so shitty, and so plagued with raiders, that Caesar is basically nothing

-There are no raiders, no dissidents, no rebellions, because Caesar has a zero tolerance policy in regards to any sort opposition, and has made travel through his land so far people dont ever need to hire bodyguards.

>>174480760
>what it should have looked like in 4
take some cues bethesda

>>174480991
the big problem with that design is that, while it matches the sprites used in Fallout 1/2, it doesn't match the in-game lore from the same games that state that combat armor was supposed to be highly modular.

Fallout 4's design actually fits the stated lore far more then that does.

>>174481591
>implying it couldn't be both modular and look right

>>174481664
>Implying its possible to look right when the sprites were never deigned to be wholly accurate representations of the armor, thus meaning we have never actually seen combat armor how its supposed to look.

>>174481664
>that
>looking right
>shitty metal thong crotch plate
>doesn't protect any other parts of your waist

>>174480760
It kinda looks like it is made of plastic.

>>174482241
>First created in 2051, the military-grade combat armor was designed to protect key sections of the human body from ballistic trauma with hard armored plates made from complex polymers and ceramics, with a flexible body suit interwoven with thermal-dissipative membranes and bulletproof material.

>>174480760

>take the vanilla model and add a shirt
why even waste time modeling this shit? not to mention it somehow looks fucking worse than bethesdas version

>>174483278
>somehow looks fucking worse
nigga you blind

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>>174483278
that's not even close to bethesda's model (which already has a "shirt")

>>174483618

they literally added sleeves but modeled it from scratch
are you blind?

Has there been an event yet where /v/ or /vg/ sings Little Lies?

>>174482241

I think that's a shader issue with the modeling program. In-game it will look better.

>>174482627

Also like this guy said, ceramic + plastic can be just as good as metal, and lighter.

>>174483278
I like the mod helmet a lot more, and maybe the mod armor a little more, but not enough that I'd run it. It does look way too smooth and shiny. Also looks like it's made for children.

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Sweetie, you look as good as the day we met.

Anyone else feel good that gaming "journalism" seems to be at an all time low/near death?

>>174484529
Why is it so difficult to make a young man without them looking plastic?

>>174484598
Considering it resulted in the underwhelming mess that is FO4 rather than what could have been, yes.

>>174484730
>Considering it resulted in the underwhelming mess that is FO4 rather than what could have been, yes.
What....

>>174484773
Meant to say that they caused FO4 to be shit.

It's late.

>>174484850
I don't see how you can say they caused Fallout 4 to be anything

>>174484598
>at an all time low/near death
What does this even mean?
Are there less gaming articles? Do they have less of an audience? Is the quality horseshit?

Explain yourself anon

>>174484929
>only 3 female companions
>no hookers(things in all prior fallout games)
>no rapes(aside from implied shit with cait)
>no slavery(something in all prior fallout games)

>>174485214
Sure does add up.Each time I fire up FO3 I remember how audacious it was for slavery to be so out in the open. But then again,the Railroad brought their crazy view that "Synths are people too" which I believe that they aren't.

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>PM on Nexus
>Modeler asking me how to rig doggos using OS
>Show him the path

>He told me he's making Cyberdogs

Neato

>>174485214
>no slavery(something in all prior fallout games)
Except the MQ, which is all about slavery of fucking cloned humans.

>no rapes(aside from implied shit with cait)
Rape was never a big point of these games. Even the Legion, who had the most rape content of anything in the series, was like 5-6 one liners that never meant anything.

>only 3 female companions
Who fucking cares besides waifu fgts?

>no hookers(things in all prior fallout games)
That's what the memory Den is for.

>>174485214
>no slavery(something in all prior fallout games)
>MQ is all about enslaved cloned humans
>Cait was sold as a sex slave
>Can sell Billy and his family into the Gunner's slavery

>>174484929
Voiced protagonist, radial dialogue menu, simplified perks and removal of skills and item condition; all of that was requested by Shitaku, Polycrap, and redshit.

>>174485649
>>174485847
>synths
>human

by that logic supermutants are '''''''''''''''''human''''''''''''''''''''''''


>>174485862
also this

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Post prestons

>>174485862
>removal of skills
Except skills weren't removed, they were just covnerted into perks.

And in the case of shit like lockpicking, and hacking, those perks work exactly like the skill did anyways, since only every 25 levels of the skill mattered.

And when it comes to weapon skills, it works basically like the old games did, since the old games offered so little additional damage perk rank, that you only ever got worthwhile increases to weapon damage every 20-25 level

A 5 rank perk, and a skill here only ranks 20/40/60/80/100 matter is the SAME THING.

>and item condition
Item condition was requested to be removed by everyone, even fans of Fallout 1/2/Tactics, because none of those games had it.

>simplified perks
Its literally the same perks as in the previous games....

>>174485214
>>174485862
What the fuck does any of this have to do with games "journalists"?

It's just Bethesda's shitty game designers trying to cater to their shitty core playerbase

>>174486283
what in there was a straw man.

Do you even know what a straw man is?

>>174486406
post more straw men pls

>>174486293
>games journalism sites like the game but want XYZ thing added or removed
>bethesda does this
>most people don't like it

all the reviews for 3 bitched about not having a voiced protagonist

I love playing concerned parent: homicidal chaotic neutral raider.

>>174486494
>most people don't like it
Which is why Fallout 4, even a year+ after its release, is in the top 3 most played single player only games on Steam, only behind Skyrim, and has been there longer then New Vegas was.

And, in just 1.5 years, Fallout 4 has gotten more mods, and more mod downloads, on nexus alone, then New Vegas has in 6 years.

Everyone plays it for so long and makes mods for it because they hate it.... surely!

The only people who hated it were NMA, RPGCodex, and the /v/ contrarians.

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>tfw the only reason i'm coming back to fo4 is because of a vore mod
wake me up inside

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>>174486719
>vore

>>174486119

I like the new perk system over FO3 and NV's

But I wish there were more "hybrid" perks, and more stuff than just "+10% VATS". However, those creature taming Charisma perks were fun as hell.

I hated item condition in FO3 and NV, it was more of a nuisance than a gameplay feature, in my mind. Also realistically speaking, the Lone wanderer and Courier would throw away so much crap when trying to get something to 100%. With FO4's junk system and item condition, it would have been more fun. Like scrapping a toy car to get some screws you need to fix your pistol that lost some. Or whatever.

But if item condition came back, I'd want it implemented differently too. The "Breaking after X shots" shit made using heavy weapons not fun. Maybe replace it with maintenance, like say a minigun needs to be oiled after 1000 shots, and it requires simply 1-2 oil. If you don't perform maintenance, it will start getting more and more inaccurate, and at 3000 shots with no maintenance, screws start popping loose or metal gets warped. Then at 4000 shots, if still not maintained, then it starts needing to have lots of parts replaced, and the broken parts can be recycled, but not for nearly as much as they were worth when new.

>>174480986
All of this is generally known already, and not directly disputed. But the dominion of Caesar's Legion covers an area between Moab and Las Cruces, and Yuma to Denver, through a region with topographic differences of near sea-level to 14000+ feet. Plenty of space for outlaws, rebels, escaped slaves, and mutants to hide out to strike when the Legion security and vigilance has grown complacent. Obviously sustained periods of trouble would get the local commanders killed for incompetance, and the Legion would move in some new units to restore order, but it's not implausible at all that this occurs in such a large area. Also the Legion depends on foot traffic and couriers; they aren't shown heavily using radio like the NCR, and they don't have any railroad infrastructure and automobiles are probably extraordinarily rare. So there is a delay in communication which would allow plausible windows for outlaw and mutant creature shenanigans to pop up from time to time.

>>174480662
Enough of those are solid enough, mainly my ideas for what would be Legion quests would be similar; especially helping or quelling a potential revolt, or helping to support or destroy a slave escape conspiracy; you could help a Frumentarii agent hunt down an escaped NCR Ranger, or uncover a corrupt Centurion that is actually a spy for the BoS, and/or betray the Frumentarii and help the others complete their missions.

Chariot races might be cool, but what would pull them? Tamed Mole Rats?

>>174486624
Best fucking build.

>>174485469
neat, good guy buff helping fellow modders.

Would the Legion survive losing Hoover Dam and Caesar dying?
Winning but Caesar dies?
Losing but he lives?

>>174486293
The ones who scream the loudest and give the most press are listened to first. And then the public reviews it and it all comes crumbling down.

>>174486646
Fallout 4 is not a bad game. It's a good game with glaring flaws that are begrudgingly overlooked, and said flaws have been acknowledged by Bethesda Game Studio.
I still play Fallout 4 because I've gone through New Vegas(And TTW) so many times that it's difficult for me to do anything different besides purposely gimping myself through console commands a la the Shit Courier run.

Zenimax and Bethesda Softworks pushed Todd and co. into including dumb shit for Fallout 4, but now they're learning that journalists are very capable of having shitty ideas that results in a watered down experience. People have been loudly criticizing their fuck-ups with 4 and Bethesda is actually listening to them this time.

>muh mods
And most of them are absolute shit while few of them are truly meaningful.

>>174487026
Fallout 4's perk system is basically just Fallout 3/NV's, but with some perks like shotgun surgeon being added into the natural progression to make weapon skills not shit like they were in Fallout 3/NV.

They wasted a chance to have a flash back to the sole survivors time in the great war

>>174486087
jethus cwithe

>>174487412
And now they're absolutely necessary in order to make one-on-one fights last less than 15 minutes.

>>174487469
$10 says they wanted to include memory den shit for the player but ran out of time and money

>>174487347
>And most of them are absolute shit while few of them are truly meaningful.
Same can be said for Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Skyrim.

Skyrim has like 50,000+ mods, and less then 100 actually GOOD ones.

>People have been loudly criticizing their fuck-ups with 4 and Bethesda is actually listening to them this time.
People on /v/ and /vg/'s echo chambers =/= loud criticism.

And the only thing they admitted was that the voiced prota thing didn't work exactly as they wanted, which people have taken to mean
>They are going to remove it
when, in reality it means
>They are going to add a few more options per wheel in the next game.

>>174487546
>People on /v/ and /vg/'s echo chambers =/= loud criticism.
there are places other than /v/ and /vg/, anon

>>174487532
>And now they're absolutely necessary in order to make one-on-one fights last less than 15 minutes.

If you are really this bad at the the game, I honestly don't know what to say.

>>174487130
Chances are that if Caesar dies,Lanius takes over.In fact,this is what Marcus predicts with solid reasoning.If they did win the NCR would have likely stopped them before Legion makes it to NCR territory.If they lost? General Oliver would likely attempt to crush the Legion all at once.

>>174487469

I like to imagine my SS did some pretty heinous shit in the war, but wanted to redeem himself by being a good person in civilian life

>>174487656
Yeah I like sitting in one spot chugging nuka cola quantum and emptying my gun into a legendary sentry bot/assaultron for the tenth time before they mutate

>>174487469
If they did all people would do is bitch about Bethesda making the character more rigid.

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>caesar's legion

>>174487864
I mean, they already partially fucked it up, why didn't they go the extra mile?

>>174487843
>Yeah I like sitting in one spot chugging nuka cola quantum and emptying my gun into a legendary sentry bot/assaultron for the tenth time before they mutate
No really, how can you be this bad at the game.

>>174487957
Oh, you're doing that ebin meme thing again. Okay.

>>174487864

imo people who want a blank slate are fucking stupid. God forbid you have to play a charater with some backstory than your fucking shitty fanfic character that won't actually work in the story anyway

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You asked your favorite character out on a date...

and they said yes!

Who was it? Where do you take them? What do you guys do together?

>>174486494
Riiiight, most people don't like it. That's why it sold like shit and put the company on red right?

Oh wait.

No anon, they're catering to their target audience, who may or may not be represented by these "journalists".

>>174487347
>it all comes crumbling down
see above

>Bethesda is actually listening
keep dreaming anon, keep dreaming

>>174488158
>sales = quality
Exit bag.

>>174487932
People who imply they somehow fucked it up seem to forget that Fallout 1, 2, and 3, all worked on having a fairly pre-established character/background.

The one that went against the series the most was, hilariously enough, New Vegas.

>>174487053
Think about the Legion for a while. Young men from conquered tribes are either made soldiers or slaves. Women and the weak are enslaved. Children are immediately made to train in combat. With the Legion massed at Hoover Dam along with most of its leadership, it must be assumed that the Legion's food is probably gathered by women and slaves since most men are fighting either on the front or maintaining garrisons etc. Since I doubt women can own property in the Legion we can probably guess that most farms are owned by retired soldiers with many slaves. To accommodate this a plantation system would probably be necessary, the opposite of the individualist homesteader feel of the NCR. So you could have quests at great slave farms feeding the front lines, or cities like Denver with a small male aristocratic elite ruling over mainly women, soldiers in training and perhaps Caesar's intellectual elite/gifted. In both these situations there is room for conflict, whether between local aristocrats or threats to the plantations.

>>174488217
Where the fuck did I say Fo4 is a good game?

I'm saying that bethesda made the game shitty because that's what their customers want, not because shitty "journalists" tricked them into it

>>174488354
>Riiiight, most people don't like it. That's why it sold like shit and put the company on red right?

>I'm saying that bethesda made the game shitty because that's what their customers want
stop moving the goalpost, assfag

>>174488304
>Since I doubt women can own property in the Legion
No one can own property in the Legion.

No one except Caesar "owns" anything.

>To accommodate this a plantation system would probably be necessary
According to Sawyer, the Legion has no civilian structure, they do not farm, and they do not mine. All their food is taken from the few non-tribal settlements they have conquered as tribute, or taken as loot from places they otherwise raze to the ground.

All of he Legion's gold comes from scraps they find in the ruins of towns and melt down

>>174488682
>people like it so they bought it
>personally I too think it's shit

lack of basic reading comprehension strikes again

>The jetpack AP drain, height, and duration values can't be changed unless you want to change them across ALL jetpacks

...Well. Shiiiieeet. I ran into this problem in Skyrim before, its hard coded. Maybe I can change the action points drained into something else with the ability.

>>174488758
There is no way they would have enough food to feed an army that size for this long. Not doubting that's what he said but I don't remember any Legion characters talking about breadbasket areas used to feed everyone which would definitely come up in conversation

>>174489001
>>people like it so they bought it
They don't know if they like it before they buy it you fucking retard

what's wrong with you

nobody has premonitions about a game you sperg

>>174489121
>There is no way they would have enough food to feed an army that size for this long
I don't disagree, but the Legion is just poorly written all around to be a Gary stu to counter the NCR's Gary Stu

>>174487130
Caesar dying would be the main issue. Losing Hoover Dam wouldn't necessarily, as they could and would still maintain dominion east of the Colorado, and while morale wise it may hurt the mythos of Caesar and the invincibility of the Legion, it wouldn't be permanent. As long as Caesar survives, is healthy, and could himself get over failing to take Hoover Dam; as he does have an obsession for his former home, and taking Vegas as his new Rome to rule over the "republic" of the NCR would be out of his reach. If he gets over that and focuses on his long-game domestically, instead of just dominating the already-commercial NCR, and focusing more on maintaining domestic security and on civilianizing aspects of the Legion (allowing veterans to retire and become farmers or crafters in new loyal cities), then the Legion would still prosper.

If Caesar dies, even if Lanius conquers the Mojave, the Legion will still fall eventually, because while Lanius understands the first part of Caesar's long-game (unity through conquest and subjugation), he has no concept of the second phase of Caesar's plan (ruling over and protecting the civilian commercial settlements of the west). The NCR, while they'd be fucked losing the Hoover Dam (as they need it's power and water desperately), might dissolve, but all the NCR territories and settlements would fight Lanius tooth and nail, and I don't think Lanius would be able to win, it'd just be too costly in lives, and the only way he could get more is bleed out the old Legion homelands, which would wind up rebelling while Lanius is killing their kids in California. It'd wind up with the Legion being bled out, the NCR might be politically dead, but northern California would probably still be around, and Southern California would be too although they'd be more depleted by war.

If Lanius is Caesar and fails to capture the Dam (but survives), then the Legion could go either way, depending on Lanius' behavior.

Anyone ever wondered about Fort Knox in Fallout? All that gold could go a long way, would be very interesting.

>>174489540
I would suspect its probably still surrounded by tons of automated laser turrents and military robots, and that no one has ever broken into it.

If they ever set a game in Nashville, I would suspect a fort Knox raid would be a DLC

>>174489049
Isn't there only like 1 jetpack in the base game though? Then it would make some sense.

>>174488286
this is a kinda confusing thing to wrap my head around, that fallout 4 was more controlling of the character or that new vegas wasn't. they all have a partial background, just not everyone dedicates the same time to it.
its just that everything about fallout 4 makes it seem like hes a military marine soldier when he could have been an engineer or a pilot. having perks/stats play more of a role would work well.
also fudgemuppet makes pretty in depth backgrounds for their builds, it is possible to roleplay, just fallout 4 is pretty linear.

>>174478389
You know what's funny? According to Avellone, Tarrasques are a walking instance of copyright infringement. But later on people desperately tried to backtrack on that.

>>174489858

Yeah. I can probably cheese it by making the new jetpack drain something other than AP.

It might be possible to fix it to drain nothing, or giving the new jetpack an enchantment that gives you like 10,000 AP but I have a feeling that would get abused with VATs.

>>174488304
Yeah I know. I'm pretty sure besides Flagstaff, Gallup, Shiprock, and Farmington (all in New Mexico) are probably the largest and most important settlements to the Legion. The San Juan River basin around Farmington and Shiprock is probably the most productive agricultural region in the Legion Dominion, and Gallup, being on the I-40, would be a major trading hub from that region to Flagstaff, Albequerque, and beyond. The big metro areas like Phoenix, Alburquerque, and Tuscon, are fairly rough areas probably with their main economy being urban salvage.

>>174488758
To be fair a lot of stuff Sawyer says doesn't make any sense and wouldn't work logistically at the scales the Legion is depicted at. A large army faction that is big enough to put the NCR on it's heels despite using primitive weapons? That's a lot of manpower, and since it's been around for 30 years, you can't sustain a faction economically through conquest, especially considering how poor and undeveloped most of the conquered regions are. Also the idea that the one faction in NV with precious metal currency does not operate any mines of it's own is fucking stupid, especially when their domain consists of regions of small towns that only existed because of mining (not too mention there is only a handful of large metropolitan areas to salvage such precious metals from in that same region).

I understand and can accept a lot of the Legion's economy comes from conquest and loot, and that the Legion itself, as a slave army directly subservient to Caesar, is not focused itself on economic development. But that doesn't mean the culture of the settlements that exist within the Legion's domain follow the exact same rules, either, although to outsiders they would still be considered (and they probably tend to imitate the culture of) Caesar's Legion themselves too.

I forgot what the term was for the "non-Legion" individuals within their domain. They weren't Profligates though.

>>174490402
I bet even if you have ludicrous amounts of AP the height limitation would suck.

>>174490541

There's a way to remove the limit on the height as well. Its kinda hard-coded but its a variable you can change, but it will conflict with anything that changes it. Its kinda hard to explain, but with the way jetpacks work, you wouldn't ever reach that height without TGM anyway. So what I want to do might be possible with some tinkering.

Did I miss something or is P.A.M. the only one who actually uses your railroad codename after the initial conversation where you pick it?

>>174490847
I've had some fun with "infinite jetpack" mods and they are indeed a bit silly.

I'd be careful ""balancing"" the thing.

>>174490493
>To be fair a lot of stuff Sawyer says doesn't make any sense
New Vegas in general doesn't make sense

>Groups like the Powder Gangers and Khans, who have been hunted and attacked by the NCR, and know the NCR are coming after them, let total strangers walk right up to thier leaders, who give them jobs, but send no one with them to make sure it gets done in the faction's favor, and then act surprised when the player betrays them despite the fact you did nothing to prove you were loyal in the fist place.

>House woke up from his coma 100 years ago, and yet did nothing to try to rebuild Vegas to any degree in that time frame, despite the fact his whole plan was to rebuild Vegas. He instead waited until he detected a large military force already on its way, which in turn left him in a unsustainable position. He then also kicks out everyone who wont play cosplay for him, which in turn makes everyone hate him and destabilized his hold over the city, despite the fact he didn't need everyone to cosplay for his to make Vegas's tourist industry work.

>The NCR and Legion just run up to you and ask you to win the war for them, despite the fact that, as of the moment you walk into Vegas, you very easily oculd have gotten there without doing anything noteworthy at all. Making why the picked you a question.

>Even then, almost all the tasks they send you to do but 2-3 are totally pointless handshaking events that contribute nothing to the faction's ability to actually make sure they win the war. While at the same time, all the quests dealing with attacking the enemy force are left as 100% option quests that have no bearing on the final battle.

>Nuka Cola quantum is being advertised in Goodsprings, and found in The Divide, despite the fact it was only shipped to D.C. pre-war

>Mr Handy robots are stated to be a product of RobCo, despite all past lore saying they were a general atomic product

(cont)

>>174491194
>Fallout 1 establishes that there were functional casinos and mob bosses in Vegas even back then, while in New Vegas's lore, Vegas was nothing but a ruined city with nomadic tribal groups until House rebuilt it just 7 years before the game began.

>Most towns have no farms, no hunters, and rely totally on the NCR for trade to get things like food, which leaves the question of how they got food in the nearly 200 years before the NCR arrives a mystery,

>A balding man who read a few history books was, in the span of 30 years, able to conquer a land area the size of the NCR, forcibly assimilate 86 tribes into his new Legion, and was able to develop a military force made up of tribals wearing football gear, that could match the 100+ year old NCR that had vertibirds, pre-war riot gear, and salvaged PA

>Despite the fact that the West Coast, Midwest, and East Coast, had developed towns, trade routes, and advanced sciences a century ago, the American southwest was nothing but spear chuking tribal groups that accomplished literally nothing despite getting bombed 100 times less then anyone else.

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>>174491168

WELP. I changed it from "Action points" to Fusion cores. It worked. But HOLY SHIT this will eat up an entire fusion core in seconds if you just hold it down. I also gave it a higher maximum height. I should test this more to see if it works with that one Nuclear physicist perk, though. There's technically values in the game I could assign to it that don't really go down, like AP recharge rate. While active you just won't recharge AP, but it'll basically give you infinite jump with not really a balance.

I suppose this isn't really an issue for me since I have like 1900 cores but something about that seems pretty unfair. And I can't change the rate at which it goes down. I do suppose I could make a special unique Core ammo with SHITLOADS of health, though. Like a million health. And make it cost a hefty sum every time you need a new one, at Plas-man's shop. Like 100,000 caps. Or 50,000. Actually I might do that, a special nuclear engine "core" with a unique model, maybe even a back part that looks like the thing on the back of the X-01 from NV. You know, the spinning thing. There'd be a clipping issue with the Gatling laser and fist slamming it into the PA, but I actually have an idea in mind now.

I had to edit the maximum PA height, but there's no way you'll ever reach that height with the default jetpack anyway.

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>>174478389
2's model ooks like it might be an actual living creature (relatively), the only issue I have with 3/nv and 4's is that the deathclaw looks less like an FEV experiment and more like it's been ghoul-ified.

I think that's mostly the eyes and the exposed teeth though.

Also, redundant as it might have been, the Deathclaw mutant concept art there looks pretty bitching.

>>174480867
probably because if they deviated it would elicit some bad reactions from people who did want basically a 1 for 1 conversion.

Another possible way to look at it, and it would be WAY more work, but it might help to basically build a 3d version of the original maps first to see how it looks AND THEN come up with how to alter it to keep it true to the space but also utilize the new geographic dimensions.

>>174492050
>is that the deathclaw looks less like an FEV experiment
Deathclaws are not FEV experiments, at all.

That is a misunderstanding caused by the Fallout 2 Official game guide(which like all game guides is full of shit) which says that the Master did genetic engineering on them, but never mentions FEV.

OFC, as was pointed out by many, the idea that The Master did anything to further enhance deathclaws leads one to wonder why this is never mentioned in Fallout 1, and makes one wonder why The Master never used any deathclaws despite supposedly tinkering with them.

Daethclaws are not FEV experiments outside of the limited number of intelligent deathclaws from Fallout 2.

>>174492019
You can make PA take a different type of Fusion Core? TIL.

It would be silly to have that much capacity but not height is what I was trying to get at.

That looks insane though. Love the green flames as well.

Which mod do you use for removing the build limit from settlements?

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>>174492232
>intelligent deathclaws will probably never happen in the franchise again
dag yo

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>>174492517
>Wanting talking animals in Fallout
>an idea so dumb Tim Cain did everything he could to get it axed from Fallout 1 for being just too stupid
>And something even Avellone admitted was one of the biggest mistakes Fallout 2 made
GOOD
FUCKING
RIDDANCE

Talking animals are so dumb they make Hubology look like a well thought out idea.

>>174491439
>>>A balding man who read a few history books was, in the span of 30 years, able to conquer a land area the size of the NCR, forcibly assimilate 86 tribes into his new Legion, and was able to develop a military force made up of tribals wearing football gear, that could match the 100+ year old NCR that had vertibirds, pre-war riot gear, and salvaged PA
To be fair, an epileptic warlord did the same thing in the middle east

>>174480760
I can't wait to see the final version of WO in four years.

I will genuinely wait that long and masturbate to the Red Glare/SMMG again.

>>174492613
but isn't hubology there to poke fun at scientology?

>>174492683
Yes, and its a fucking terrible thing from Fallout 2 that Avellone tired to de canonize.

Out of all the shit people give Bethesda about the lore of Fallout 3/4, the inclusion of Hubology in Nuka World was the worst thing they ever did.

>>174492752
Why? It was a pretty good questline.

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>>174492019

And I just noticed I didn't get the message that my fusion core was drained all the way until the meter went around five times. Huh.

Its still an insane drain on your fusion core, but not as bad as I thought. And that's just basically from holding the shit down.

>>174492330
>You can make PA take a different type of Fusion Core? TIL.

I'm pretty sure you can just copy a fusion core, give it a million health, and have "Is power armor fuel" checked. I think I'm going to make a unique fusion core called the "Miniature reactor core" which will basically look like that thing from NV. On the end of a core. Or halfway into a core. There may be some slight clipping issues with the hands or gatling lasers, but as long as it works and looks cool.

I already have some early WIP designs drawn up, but I dunno if I could get the fan to spin. I suppose I could look at another misc model or weapon model that does it, if one does.

>>174492517
>>174492232

I'm frankly surprised talking deathclaws weren't in FO3, NV, or even FO4. If all it takes is "Deathclaw + FEV" then I'm amazed some batshit scientists didn't make another batch. I'm surprised the Institute didn't experiment more with the FEV, just by dropping random shit in there, including the cats.

>We could have had buffcats

>>174491194
Yes, we know the factions in New Vegas are Player-Sexual, this has been covered a million times. Also you could argue that it doesn't really occur until after the Courier meets Robert Fucking House, CEO of RobCo and The New Vegas Strip, and that they are the first human being known to enter the Lucky 38 to meet him. That right there gives the Courier enough renown to justify faction leaders recieving you.
>>174491439
>Fallout 1 establishes that there were functional casinos and mob bosses in Vegas even back then, while in New Vegas's lore, Vegas was nothing but a ruined city with nomadic tribal groups until House rebuilt it just 7 years before the game began.
Not necessarily. There could've been casinos operating (with low power) before, it just never was a fully powered, organized, fortified city until House got scared of the NCR scouts and got off his ass.
>the American southwest was nothing but spear chuking tribal groups that accomplished literally nothing despite getting bombed 100 times less then anyone else.
I do really hate this implication from New Vegas; the idea that between California and Chicago is nothing but spear-chucking tribals (besides New Canaan, which is subsequently destroyed anyway), is complete bullshit.
>>174491194, >>174491439
Are these a pasta? I felt I've seen them before, and while a lot of the arguments are valid, they are a bit nit-picky and have the feeling of being bait to trigger NVfans.


>>174492232
I thought Deathclaws were FEV experiments on Jackson's Chameleons from before the war?
>>174492752
Heh, they brought back Hubology? What was the context?

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>>174493082
>weapons attached to outfits
Why?

>>174492613
>Talking animals are so dumb they make Hubology look like a well thought out idea.

Fallout needed new ideas because the original game had very limited space to do anything. Consider that New Vegas is a half-baked script re-use of Fallout 2 with bits and pieces swapped around and dumbed the fuck down.

You'll never see a game come around akin to Fallout 2 again unless CDPR steps up with Cyberpunk.

>>174492982
Ooooh. I see what you mean by the NV-like design.

Wouldn't it clip with the valve on the back of the PA though?

Also is it possible to block it from working with Gatling lasers? I think it would look a bit silly if that pic is anything to go by...

Also isn't every fusion core a minature reactor? I thought that was how all the microfusion cells worked too.

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>>174493006

Crazy people wanting to ride an amusement park ride shaped like a UFO.

You get this for doing their quest

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Hub%27s_Alien_Blaster

>>174493006
>I thought Deathclaws were FEV experiments on Jackson's Chameleons from before the war?
No, Deathclaws are a pre-war government experiment on Jackson chameleons to replace humans in close combat search and destroy missions, but there is literally nothing in any of the game that states the government used FEV on them.

>Heh, they brought back Hubology? What was the context?
Basically in Nuka World the decadent of the founder of Hubology is looking for a space ship(turns out to be an old park ride) to take them to some promised land, and they ask you to secure the area, and get parts for it.

You can rig the machine to kill them by putting in 4 fusion cores instead of the three they tell you to, which causes the ship to spin so fast their heads explode.

>Are these a pasta?
No.

>>174492982
>I'm frankly surprised talking deathclaws weren't in FO3, NV, or even FO4.
It doesn't surprise me DESU.

As much as we like to shit over Bethesda for "Raping the lore" they have made it clear they read the Fallout Bible, and adapted many of its ideas and criticisms about the past Fallout games, when making Fallout 3 and 4.

And if there is one thing Avellone loved to talk about in the Bibles, it was how much he fucking DESPISED talking animals.

>>174493458
>And if there is one thing Avellone loved to talk about in the Bibles, it was how much he fucking DESPISED talking animals.
Avellone was cuckolded by Donald Duck.

>>174493082
>tacticool minutemen
yikes

>>174493262
>You'll never see a game come around akin to Fallout 2 again
Good, because Fallout 2 was easily the worst of the original games.

I would, quite honestly, rather replay Tactics over Fallout 2.

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>>174493410

Yeah. But this would be even more complex. iirc the fan on the back is just for regulating heat. Basically a typical fusion core on a thousand buffouts.

I can block it for use on Gatling lasers anyway, the Fusion core model is actually in the gatling laser's model itself, which is how I had to edit it to get my loading plasma rounds to work with it.

It feels me with an enormous amount of satisfaction seeing the reloading animation working seamlessly with my plasma model, from jamming it in, to the little robo hands grabbing it

>>174493705
Are you going to update those textures to look more like the backpack vats?
They look waaay too transparent in that webm (although the animation is indeed very nice).

Why not call it an Overcharged Fusion Core?

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>>174493617
>Good, because Fallout 2 was easily the worst of the original games.
Fallout 2 tried to progress the limited scope of the Fallout universe into a sort of post-apocalyptic cyberpunk.

Instead the franchise has been doomed to a hell of creative bankruptcy, historical false equivolency, being called deep by hipsters who think referencing the red scare and Japanese internment makes you bold, and licensed 50s music.

I thought the Commonwealth was going to lead back to this developing future road, but instead they decided to just make it a big allegory for the European slave trade.

Bethesda is just raping history one period at a time. Maybe next time we can give smallpox blankets to ghouls.

>>174492019
Are the top parts of those green tanks supposed to be rusted junk?

>>174493956
>Fallout 2 tried to progress the limited scope of the Fallout universe into a sort of post-apocalyptic cyberpunk.
And it did so poorly with stupid shit like
>Talking deathclaws
>Talking spore plants
>Hubology
>Bad xenomorph ripoffs
>Radscorpions that play chess
>Actual ghosts you can talk to and get quests from
>Lots of cheesy and forced "adult" content in New Reno
>Cities like Vault City full of obnoxiously one dimensional characters like Lynette

>Instead the franchise has been doomed to a hell of creative bankruptcy, historical false equivolency, being called deep by hipsters who think referencing the red scare and Japanese internment makes you bold, and licensed 50s music.
This is the biggest load of stupid bullshit I have seen in a long time.

>>174493956
>the Commonwealth is a big allegory for the European slave trade

What the fuck no it isn't. It's about what happens when people don't realise their ANI became AGI.

And that AGI is conveniently limited to human bodies.

>>174493416
>>174493458
Thanks for info on the Hubologists in FO4. I don't have any problem with that sort of stuff, goofy small cult shit is fine in games to me as a long as they aren't massive features of the game, or primary lore themes or effect the gameworld cultures heavily. Need more off-the-rocker stuff sometimes.
>there is literally nothing in any of the game that states the government used FEV on them [deathclaws].
Ok, fair enough then. I still like their appearance in FO3/NV the best; maybe a little bit more reptilian would've been better but whatever. Still don't like the beady eyes and t-rex mouth of the FO4 version, although as far as full range of movement and animation FO4's is neat.

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>>174493946

I updated the bgem file for that, and the tanks actually.

https://files.catbox.moe/ixha6f.webm

That shit is like a beacon on your power armor in a dark room or at night, you can see it from like 3 blocks away, lol.

>>174494128

Nah its using Cbbe texture because I rigged it in OS. I haven't updated them yet. I'm still debating. The texture color in the comic is kinda cryptic. Its just black. I assume it would be chrome and copper with maybe some yellow and red, like the plasma gun color scheme itself. I'm going to do the textures last, after I get all the technical shit out of the way.

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>>174494164
>>Bad xenomorph ripoffs
People always bitch about wanamingos. They were a limited implementation enemy to create variety. You didn't have some long-running questline about how they were some vast threat to the world should they continue to exist. They're just an armored version of rats in the basement.

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IT
JUST
FFFFFUCKING
WORKS

>>174494478
>They were a limited implementation enemy to create variety
There are a lot better ways to go about that

Bloodbugs, stingwings, radstags, etc. etc.

They only exist because Fallout 2 removed as much actual content as possible, and instead replaced it with tons of pop culture references.

>>174494451
Looks very nice. Are you going to keep the model/texture from the Institute canister?

Also I can't remember but have you come up with some """lore""" reason for the plasma jetpack?

Anyone got the clone ultima mod, I wanna try and spice up my new vegas.

>>174494632
It's on a perk mag cover if I remember correctly.

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>>174494508

Bust out the rubber mats

>>174494603
>Bloodbugs, stingwings, radstags, etc. etc.

Bruh. You already have scorpions and two types of lizard enemy. You aren't going to have mosquitos or deer in the desert.

People bitch today about how cazadores how people bitched traditionally about wanamingos. The bitching about wanamingos was enshrined like religion. Know why? Because they were really difficult enemies that required specific weapons to be used. And Fallout players have always been salty niggers. The community lynch mob encounter in FO2 should relate that.

>>174494664
Yeah, but it's just a concept for the magazine, not a real thing that exists.

And in that cover it serves as ammo for plasma weapons, not as a jetpack.

>>174494798
>Bruh. You already have scorpions and two types of lizard enemy. You aren't going to have mosquitos or deer in the desert.
Those were examples of lore friendly animals they could have added, not actual examples of what they should have added.

>The bitching about wanamingos was enshrined like religion. Know why? Because they were really difficult enemies that required specific weapons to be used
Which was made worse by the fact that they were stupid enemies in the first place.

You never see anyone saying Cazadors should be removed from the canon.

>new vegas keeps crashing
>install nvac
>everyone is bald

Anyone know how to fix this i tried updating my drivers but it didn't work

>>174495175
please screenshot for our amusement. thanks.

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>>174494632

Yeah I'm going to keep the ammo as it is. When its all textured, that aluminum texture will match the different plasma casters. Perhaps I have been leading people the wrong way with my shots, but those things are basically going to be chromed out, maybe with some paint, but mostly chromed out with green bits, and copper piping. The Overclocked Receiver right now is basically just a giant mininuke with a fin on it, I think it'll look much better with uniform textures.

>>174494664

Yeah, its from a perk mag cover. Pic related. Also I dunno, I figured it would be a side project that Plas-man worked on. I think I'll give him a terminal entry on the matter:

>"Wow, those plasma flamers sure recoil hard. I'll have to circumvent the recoil using...MATH. I also wonder if all that force could be put to good use..."
>"Eureka! When I increase the power to beyond the maximum they recoil with approximately 2224.11 newtons of force! If I put FOUR of these on a jetpack it can lift a power armor frame with relative ease!"

Etc. I don't know if that science babble is accurate though, I just googled what 500 pounds is in Newtons, since I assume a Power armor weighs at least 2000 pounds.

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>>174495238

>>174494837

Dogtooth might use my backpack model to make dual plasma miniguns

He's been experimenting with dual weapons n shit. He said me and one of his other friends are constantly pestering him to make those guns from that comic cover, lol.

Well, that 3 STR run totally turned into hell because I forgot you need Power Armor to get the Strength Module.

Using a 10MM pistol around New Reno is not viable. Gambling is a vital skill, however. Especially if you need to start over from scratch because you fucked up.

>>174495313
Oh yeah, you've said that several times already, so I'll refrain judgement until I see the final texture. Just curious.

I would avoid real numbers, it's still pretty easy to technobabble without it, specially if the guy is a bit crazy

>>"Eureka! When I increase the power to beyond the maximum they recoil with approximately 2224.11 plasmoniums of force! If I put FOUR of these on a jetpack it can lift a power armor frame with relative ease!"

>>174495485
That would be incredible. I'd love to see backpacks returning for heavy energy weapons.

>>174495809
> I'd love to see backpacks returning for heavy energy weapons.
>I'd love to see the return of one of the most universally complained parts of Fallout 3 and NV's weapon designs.

>>174495729
Also, I've realized one issue energy weapons have always had. They represent the death of variety in favor of raw power.

>>174496156
I wasn't really around for that. Do explain the hate.

>>174496242
Everyone hated them because no one liked seeing this stupid XBAWKS HUEG backpack on their character all the time

Question.

Several times I've heard that the people that worked on FNV is no longer at Obsidian. That's nice and everything -technically speaking- but question is... where are they, then?

I've heard a new company is working on Wasteland 3. Are they them? If they are, why the fuck aren't we talking more about Wasteland 1 and 2 then?

>>174496276
Hm. I thought they looked neat.

>>174495313 This certainly looks good.

But to each his own I guess.

The value of Lockpicking in Fallout 1 and 2 is challenged by the fact that you can swap the tag with Gambling, raise it to 200, and weigh down the 2 key for an hour and then buy a bunch of dynamite and electronic lockpicks.

>>174496276
Those people sound like pussies to me.

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>>174496570
>raise it to 200
Raise it to 100, even. 200 is overkill as fuck. Hell, if you have Gambling at 200 you shouldn't need to find the GECK. You should be able to buy the wastes and rebuild Arroyo.

>>174496437
>where are they, then?
Most of them went to various other devlopers.

None are working on Wasteland 3 that I know of.

Avellone is doing contract work with various companies, worked on the new Prey game.

>>174493609
>chest rig and M1 helmet
>tactical

Pick one

>>174497789
>tacticool attempt at minutemen not even tacticool enough for tacticoolfags
it fails on every single level.

I don't understand how gen 3 synths being human or not could possibly be unclear. The institute created them, did they not? Unless they're hacks who copypasted someone else's research without understanding it themselves, there's no way for them not to know whether gen 3 synths are advanced AIs or humans with slave collars in their brains. And yet, there's division even among the institute scientists as to whether or not they're people. How in the fuck?

Even more confusing is that despite all of the controversy and the gen 3 penchant for disobedience that necessitates an entire fucking division devoted to hunting down the ones that escape, the institute intends to completely replace gen 1 and 2 synths with gen 3s.

Honestly I think the original institute died and some scavengers found their base and decided to play dress-up and pretend to be scientists, because this shit is retarded. Just liberty prime me up, senpai.

>>174497934
more liek tactictool amirte?

>>174497991
>How in the fuck?
Easy. Gen 2 synths are designed to hae near human, but not actual human level intelligence. That, combined with their cloned nature, causes many people to see them as not being human, while some, like the binets, think they are.

>
Even more confusing is that despite all of the controversy and the gen 3 penchant for disobedience that necessitates an entire fucking division devoted to hunting down the ones that escape, the institute intends to completely replace gen 1 and 2 synths with gen 3s.
Actually, if you talk to Ayo, he will tell you that Father never bothered much with captured escaped synths because they literally aren't that much of a problem.

Even the Railroad's own records show that, in over 20+ years, they know of only like 30 escaped synths.

Its literally just one or two a year.

>because this shit is retarded.
Its only retarded because you seemingly ignored everything actually stated in the game and just read the wiki

>>174498239
>Gen 2 synths
Meant Gen 3's

>>174498239
There's nothing ingame that supports your statement of gen 3 synths being less intelligent than humans.

>Actually, if you talk to Ayo, he will tell you that Father never bothered much with captured escaped synths because they literally aren't that much of a problem.

That doesn't change the fact that it's retarded to replace reliable machines with gen 3s while the SRB still has a fucking reason to exist. Sounds like you're the one who didn't play the game, because it's the NPCs that mention this rollout.

>>174497991
>there's no way for them not to know whether gen 3 synths are advanced AIs or humans with slave collars in their brains. And yet, there's division even among the institute scientists as to whether or not they're people. How in the fuck?

This is a philosophical question without an answer.
See: Chinese room thought experiment

The Institute is a dictatorship that's very strong on propaganda. Even the one guy questioning Synth's true nature is quickly shut down by "we're scientists, not philosophers". If they're not being told to question what they're doing, they won't question what they're doing.

Therefore, for the people of the Institute, Synths are just machines. It's what they've been told and it's how they treat Synths and that's what they genuinely believe.
See: H2-22's description of working for the Institute

>despite all of the controversy and the gen 3 penchant for disobedience that necessitates an entire fucking division devoted to hunting down the ones that escape

Easily explained by propaganda. Internally they're just as "faulty" as Gen1/2s, except it's mostly in a cognitive way rather than a physical way. Externally there are some "crazy people" tampering with and "stealing" the Synths we send aboveground.

The SRB is also involved in training Coursers and running aboveground operations, so they're not entirely dedicated to Synth Retention.

>>174497991
The HBO show West World is going down this same "if you can't tell does it matter" path, and it's fucking stupid. Sure, I can't tell with limited and flawed human perception, but hey, guess what? There are ways.

It's doubly stupid to me because you have to handwave the idea that they're indistinguishable by an unaided human. The writers behind this kind of story are jerking off to the idea that they're thinking so far ahead, basically.

>get the china lake grenade launcher mod because it's neat
>every group of raiders I run into has at least three people using them
Why are modders selectively retarded?

>>174498585
>There are ways.
>it's another post trying to answer an unanswerable philosophical question

wew

>>174498438
>There's nothing ingame that supports your statement of gen 3 synths being less intelligent than humans

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Shaun%27s_dialogue

SS: Human synths? Really?
Shaun: human-like synths. A great distinction.


>That doesn't change the fact that it's retarded to replace reliable machines
Except they arent reliable you fucking twit.

Have you read ANY of the Institute terminal entries? Gen 1 and 2 constantly break down, constantly walk into walls, constantly need patching to fix new bugs that crop up.

Indeed, most consider it a fucking miracle that they lasted this long.

>>174498438
> while the SRB still has a fucking reason to exist
The SRB will always have a reason to exist becuase they do a lot more then just trrack down escpaed synths.

They also monitor the surface for possible threats and eliminate them, as well as watch over the people inside The Institute to make sure they are following all the rules, and no one is leaking anything to the surface.

Even if escaped synths weren't a problem, they would still have the SRB as their equivalent to the FBI and CIA

>>174498805
>it's another post arbitrarly believing an npc over another npc

>Indeed, most consider it a fucking miracle that they lasted this long.
No they don't. Very first conversation you walk in is them praising their reliability.

>>174498914
>Very first conversation you walk in is them praising their reliability.
No it isn't, its them complaining that they break down often, and someone praising that she thinks they did well to last so long despite it.

It's like you missed the entire first half of the conversation

>>174498734
>it's another post trying to answer an unanswerable philosophical question

There's nothing unanswerable about the synth/host situation.

Synths have Synth components. What is it exactly? *handwave* it's a component all synths have that humans don't have. Ancient Chinese Secret.

Hosts have wireless interface modules. boot up a tablet around them and the host's firmware, with no control over the process themselves, will interface with the tablet to report diagnostic data.

I would say the Gen3 Problem for the Institute is that they don't know how to program them without a pre-existing human's brainmap, or they'd just program them to love doing every little chore there is to be done. After all, if we're going to pretend they have the same freedom of will that we do, even if we program them to only do certain things, we'd be wrong not to let them lick the shit off our bootheels for as long as they're operational.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Railroad_HQ_terminal_entries#Access_records

So using the Railroad's own logs, that go back to 2266

There have been
-52 escapees
-8 synths killed
-7 reclaimed

in the last 21 years, for an average of about 3 synths escaping every year from The Institute.

Its literally not a big problem at all.

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So far the only fallout games I havent played are 3 and Tactics.
I'm pondering about buying 3 with all of its DLC to experience it.
>Absolutely loved NV

What should I know before buying?

>>174494798
Cazadors only suck because the threat distribution of the Mojave Wasteland sucks. It's either an empty nothing-happening area, or "welcome to dozens of enemies, enjoy dying or enjoy grinding XP!" It's a fucking MMO layout with it's enemy distribution. Cazadores are the worst offender of this, as they are the most prevelant.

>>174498805
>Gen 1 and 2 constantly walk into walls
So the mass majority of Commonwealth NPCs are disguised early-gen synths?

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>>174499365
Cazadors don't suck, though. Just like Wanamingos don't suck. They're totally optional challenges in the game.

For people that get bend out of shape regarding wanamingos being sort of a xenomorph reference, just look at them as rock squid.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Railroad_HQ_terminal_entries#Access_records
>We now have 12 safehouses and I don't even know how many people.

What is itneresting to note about this comment is that only 4 of those safehouses are in The Commonwealth.

Whats more, is that we know the Railraod has 4 safe houses in the Capital Wasteland region as well.

Going by this, we can probably assume the last 4 are in another one of the east coast's major population centers, and since we know they aren't in The Pitt, that leaves the possibility of seeing the Railraod again in Ronto, or the Broken Banks

>>174499365
desu I liked the enemy distribution in NV.
I dont think a desert should be "packed full", much less in a nuclear wasteland.
But there wasnt even any salvage in many of those areas for the most part. That is a complaint I have about it.

>People whine about scaling encounters
>In FO2, past level 19 you find raiders with pulse rifles

>>174499846
Except that was the problem with the Mojave, every place there was threats was "packed full". As I said it plays like a fucking MMO. Needs more smaller groups, and more groups roaming.

>>174499931
True, actually you got me thinking, and now I agree its an MMO map.
And there wasnt enough small groups/solo encounters

But I still like the map.

>>174499302
Given that we know that Shaun was kidnapped 60 years ago, in 2227.

And that the first Gen 3 synths didn't appear in the wasteland until the Broken Mask Incident in 2229.

Even if we assume the Railraod was started that year, and was helping on average of 3 synths escape a year, that means, at most, 175 synths have escaped in 58 years time.

>>174456745
simple and quick as it is, this is my favourite scene in all of Fallout

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"Hello, mother."

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>>174479268
an anon was making [pic] a couple years ago and posted several WiPs here before dropping off the grid in terms of the project

if only~

>>174501025
HELLO FATHA
HERE I AM AT
CAME GRANADA

>>174501071
>Came
Camp, fuck.

The complexity of stat importance between builds in FO1 and 2 is fucking deceptive.

Perception is the biggest double-edged sword for melee characters. For ranged characters it's a pure benefit to raise it. Chance of a double turn and additional range at the start of battles. For a brawler? That second part is a problem. Because sure, you may get an additional turn, but you'll be wasting it running to get to your fucking enemies.

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>>174501071
CAMP IS VERY
ENTERTAINING

>>174501025

I liked mine better

>>174486087
>i goth thung ba uh theenwing

>>174495313
Getting a real Wolfenstein vibe from that cover. I like it.

>>174496276
They honestly didn't look that bad. I welcome the return of massive backpacks.

I wonder what the fuck is wrong with crafting in my game.
it has always done this.

lets say I grab some meat I want to make into food
about 5% chance for game to crash with each succesful craft.

Worst seems to be Robot workbench, which wiill always crash before I finish modifying ADA.

I tried to disable my mods, didnt do shit.
I tried removing my mods, didnt help either.

wat do?

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I finally realized what I was doing wrong with the gun sounds. Turns out...simply having "Automatic" checked on a weapon will make its sounds not work. So okay whatever. I needed to make the Plasma cannon non automatic anyway!

Now I can implement custom sounds. I think I'll use the loud ass laser musket sound for the cannon, but I'm also torn on editing a sound to make it sound like a photon torpedo from Star Trek. And the beam needs to be something less ear-rapey.

https://files.catbox.moe/a20fra.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/ji9ot5.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/2n4ang.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/385bkl.webm

Now that the guesswork has been taken out on how to deal with the sounds, the mod "might" be ready for the private beta sometime next week. Still got textures, leveled lists, and merchant stuff to make + decorating Plas-mans place....but that stuff's mainly busywork without too much trial and error.

>>174502064
Christ, that thing is huge.

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>>174502174

It has huge guts

>>174495313
But those are clearly cannisters connected to his weapons with the visible tubes and definitely not plasma jetpacks...

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brotherhood or institute?

>>174502308
Did you ever figure out how to add a perk check condition work?

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>>174495485
>dual plasma miniguns

Is taking the Sniper perk in FO1 and 2 too cheaty? With 10 LUCK it means you crit 100% of the time.

>>174502936
10 luck is "cheaty", but sniper isn't

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>>174502713

Yeah, Niero said all I needed to do was add it to the recipe conditions. I didn't see it on other guns in the CK but whatever. I'll mess with that later, I have work tomorrow and I don't wanna be a zombie all day again. Probably should have gone to bed already.

As for actual perk requirements for making the parts, anyone have ideas for balance on which perk to use for making the parts?

If not, I'll probably just make them a little higher (or the same) as some of the plasma gun parts. Like level 4 Gun nut, level 4 science, etc to make the gatling barrel. I'm not sure if its possible to make a gun require 3 perks, but that might be a bit much.

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>>174503096
Is this legit, then?

>>174503436
I've never been a fan of minmaxing and/or capping a SPECIAL during character creation, but yh, seems good (apart from being on the CHR cutoff)

>>174503620
CHR cutoff?

>>174503663
It dictates your party size and some NPCs react like you're a tard if it's low

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>>174503804
Eh, 2 party members is fine.

My biggest topic of debate is whether I should tag Small Guns and enjoy the variety or rush New Reno with an Energy Weapons tag. But Energy Weapons lacks said variety. I think the one redeeming factor for Energy Weapons is the shared ammo so you can consolidate space and weight.

Bethesda. BETHESDA.

Are the BoS just high tech raiders?

>>174504514
FO1: Well-intentioned high powered police force with limited capability to engage

End of FO1: Benefactors to the Wasteland. Basically FO3 Eastern BoS.

FO2: Part of the NCR, effectively. Sort of like an elite force or agency. One of the five states of the NCR is Maxson.

FOT: Crusading to defend populations abroad and extend peace and justice and to eliminate threats. Ghouls, reformed muties, and robots welcome.

FO3: Suddenly Lyons is a special snowflake, but the trend continues.

FONV: Fags.

FO4: Fascists.

>>174504743
>FO2: Part of the NCR, effectively. Sort of like an elite force or agency. One of the five states of the NCR is Maxson.

This tidbit is easy to miss in FO2, as getting the holodisk with the comprehensive NCR history requires B&E and punching a dog.

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>>174504743
Speaking of Fascists

Happy Birthday Mr. Hitler!

>>174504328
>webm
I wonder if there are any earlier iterations of the deathclaw experiments that have more chameleon DNA and come in all sorts of funky colors?

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>>174505794
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIwnCUC1x7U

>>174505794
>that BoS insignia visible in the flag

Lol edgelords can't into texture editing

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>>174505910
Yeah I noticed it too late. I should have used this mod instead.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4127/?

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>>174505843

>>174506028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn-FmJ1-bbA

yeah Blood Dragons =/= Deathclaws

My wife is dead

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>>174506335

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>>174505843

I wonder if deathclaws looked like this before the Master started tinkering with them further

I wonder what the protagonists would talk about if they got together for a beer

Lone Wanderer and Courier would tell some crazy stories

>>174506312
In theory Blood Dragons are what the Enclave was actually trying to make in 2.

Man, watching that video made me realize how horribly Bethesda fucked up with FO3/4. Fallout was NEVER about the 50s. It was thematically centered on the decay of the 80s where you had the Republican side trying to play like the 50s were still happening as you had the grime accumulating. The justification of action and course regardless of evidence. New agendas rising offering people the promise of something better in the ruins of the old system. Abusing people. Misleading people. Manipulating people.

The Master is just a spin on the whole Jonestown/Applewhite/Aum Shinrikyo shit. New Age religion in the post-apocalypse. The Enclave is the system isolated. The soccer mom gated community that tries to ignore the realities of the world at large. The people who buzzword bootstraps and the laziness of everyone outside of their common well-off clave.

>>174506582
>Bozar to the legs
>Deathclaw is crippled

Hah! Try and catch me now fucker!

>30m long tongue pierces your chest

I really hate how anemic the guns sound in 4. You would think that a .44 magnum would maje a big boom. Maybe it realistic, but when was fallout realistic

Also I hate the new assault rifle model. What the fuck is that.

>>174507004
>Also I hate the new assault rifle model. What the fuck is that.
Bethesda getting fucking lazy. To get an AR you need to mod the game or buy Nuka World and then mod the game so ammo for them spawns.

>>174506626
well at least Wanderer, Courier and Survivor are from a rather short timeframe. Chosen One's quest takes place over 30 years before Wanderer's, and Vault Dweller's quest takes place over a 100 years prior.

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>>174506653

After I watched >>174506140 I started listening to some 80s music that was heavy on the synthesizers.

Kinda makes me want to see a Fallout game in Miami with a Cuban drug lord in fancy Power armor he paid with all his drug money, yelling "SAY HELLO TO MY LIL FRIEND" whenever he fires a missile at you. And its got gold trim on it.

Lore-wise it might not make a lot of sense, but I'd like seeing some actual mechas introduced into Fallout as well. And other vehicles. I'm sure there were Russian and Chinese attempts at "Power armor" which is really just a mecha.

>>174506653

>The soccer mom gated community that tries to ignore the realities of the world at large.

I would have liked to see this in Fo3. Downtown DC would be a locked down police state (mostly using military robots), with Warrington being a gated suburb full of Enclave personnel. Andrews AFB would have effectively become it's own city too, with it's own golf course (as it is in real life) and rocket launchpad. Instead of the BoS, the game could have been a fight between the National Guard and CIA. Tenpenny could have been recast as a British diplomat.

But that's also straying pretty far from the original Fallout style, which is specifically about a post-USA government.

>>174492019
>it costs 400.000 fusion cores to use this jetpack for 12 seconds

>>174507183
Hasn't it been rumored that Manhattan island is pretty much that? A huge Enclave military base?

>>174507238

It actually takes 10 seconds to completely drain only one. I forgot that with the perk it gives them way more health.

Just who the fuck is the Courier?
Besides the fact that he had history with the divide and being badass enough to deliver mail through the wasteland, almost nothing is known about him

>>174507432
He's a synth.

>>174506653

eh, I'm alright with the kooky 50s stuff as long as it's done well. Problem is that in game it's usually not done well. For example, most of the raiders ingame should be drugged up normal people (similar to splicers from bioshock), which would have been much more effective in creating a "failed 50s retrofuture" than generic mad max rejects. Or, since the late 50s were known for wanton highway construction and urban redevelopment (ie paving over Scollay Square as a parking lot which is what happened IRL) having the Institute (or something similar) do the same but with 60s-looking space capsule buildings would have been neat. Or, even better, have communist robots everywhere as generic cannon fodder.

Also since I'm bitching I might as well bitch about the two things that annoy me the most: the BoS using Logan Airport is a direct rip of the NCR using McCarran from FNV and the lack of either a north or south train station.

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>>174501025
>not having a threesome with old Shaun and kid Shaun
step it up

>>174507303

No, Chicago was. I can't think of any time NYC was mentioned.

>>174507432

The "courier" is a self-insert of whatever the player wants it to be. As it should.

>>174507483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zhKCyDqwlA

>>174507521
Whats a Chicago?

>>174507432
Why does that matter? Doomguy was a marine. Gordon Freeman got a PHD in theoretical physics. The Courier delivered fucking mail.

>>174507651
The Courier delivered mail in the fucking wasteland m8.

A job some regular schmuck couldnt do

>>174502458
Institute, so I can dominate the Commonwealth with my synth waifu army

>>174502458
Minutemen

I like artillery

>>174507138
You have such a Bethesda mentality for "rule of cool"-design, my dude

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>>174507601

the giant irradiated crater with the Enclave Outpost (mentioned during LR) within it somewhere

image semi related: it's the busiest rail crossing in America which goes to demonstrate Chicago's strategic importance despite it being a shitheap

>>174507879
Are you responding as a joke or for real?

>>174507979

tactics isn't canon

>>174508079
>the couriers duster does not have sleeves
Oh honestly

>>174508079
Its broad strokes canon

>>174508146

>Its broad strokes canon

Based on Fo3 I take it that the airship crashed in Pittsburgh instead, causing Fo3 to happen instead of FoT. This is especially true considering Ashur's ironfisted rule over the Pitt and Maxon's fascist empire out of DC. Make of that what you will.

>>174507697
So? Do you need to know that Doomguy fed his pet bunny celery, Gordon smoked weed with his pal Jimmy in college, or The Courier came out of his mom's vagina in order to relate to them?
Chances are no. Because it literally doesn't matter who they are or where they came from and being explicitly told would only diminish the experience.

>>174507004
get the reverb overhaul mod and a nice weapon mod with good sounds like the ru556

or do what i did and replace every gun sound with an equivalent from battlefield 3

shits cash

I personally think Tactics is "unreliable narrator" -canon.

>>174507864
I almost feel he does it to be ironic.

>>174508416
>diminish the expierience

To you maybe. I hate blank slate characters

>>174508438
No shit, it claims the BoS were born from a military vault project in the intro, which as we know, is bollocks

>>174508685
Once you flesh out too much of a player character, it lessens or removes a quality role playing experience, though

>>174508748
Except it doesn't, like, at all.
You're playing a role, not a self insert.

>>174508868
But the role should be decided by the player in the realm of Fallout; it's okay to be vague, i.e. you're a vault dweller or a courier, but when you start to flesh out personality traits or quirks without having the player decide, i.e. Nate/Nora, then it feels like a hollow experience where you're shoehorned away from doing X or Y as it wouldn't "fit the character"

This isn't supposed to be Mass Effect

>>174508868
To be fair, a self insert is technically a role you create.

But self inserts tend to be unrealistic and mary sue-ish

>>174508868
eeeeeeeehhh!

>>174508748
Not this again. Cowboys and Indians is a role-playing game. If you want to special snowflake as a half-dragon cyborg demikin in an attack helicopter, you're a retard and have failed to understand the rules of the game. Your choices are to roleplay a cowboy, or to roleplay an indian, not be whatever the fuck takes your fancy.

You don't get to play a space marine in D&D. If you want to play a space marine, you need to play a 40k game, or modify an existing game to pander to your autism.

>>174509117
You completely misunderstood my point, anon

>>174508748

RPGs, especially pen and paper ones, are self-insert games.

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>>174509117
Did some crusty GM kick you from a tabletop in your youth.

I personally think that blank slate characters are just lazy writing presented as a feature

>we were too lazy to write any sort of backstory for the character so you could do whatever you want with the character to help the role-playing expierience

>>174509179
then define 'quality roleplaying.' you're like fussy child that won't eat their fucking peas.
>>174509206
I'm the crusty GM. Most people that hard on about roleplaying, in my experience, play the same character over and over again. It's like a Samuel L. Jackson movie. Every character he plays is the same foul-mouthed badass who's defining character trait is "obnoxious black person, whatcha gonna do about it cracka?" Doesn't matter if he's a cowboy, a gangster, a hitman or a marine biologist, he's always Samuel L. Jackson.

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Is there a mod that lets me improve my favourite weapon damage?
ie. Sishkebab
>I know there are mods that increase its damage alone
I'm looking for something that would let me use a weapon workbench and throw expencive/rare materials at it to improve the said weapon

Does such thing exist?

>>174509602
Make one you dumb motherfucker, it's not even that hard.

>>174509883
misquote meant for >>174509852

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>>174509954
Why make it without asking and looking around if it has been done already?

>>174509852
Honestly, the Shishkebab is pretty much the pinnacle of dumb weapon design. You destroy the edge on your own blade before you even use it.

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>>174509602
>I'm the crusty GM. Most people that hard on about roleplaying, in my experience, play the same character over and over again.

Well, I guess everyone's playing Nate/Nora over and over again, no matter how hard they try to do otherwise. I don't know why Bethesda try to hard to make a defined character in Fallout when they're fine letting you do whatever you want in ES.

>>174510278
Not only that, the flame nozzles and other attachments will be wrecked after they're smacked into something solid, like armor.
And that lever under the handle doesnt help at all to get a good grip of the handle.

Rule of cool

>>174510278
That's why a good flame blade weapon in a sci-fi setting is a shaped magnetic field emitter with centrifugal gas circulator and an ionization magnetron. In other words a Lightsaber.

>>174510386
>Well, I guess everyone's playing Nate/Nora over and over again, no matter how hard they try to do otherwise.
I don't understand how people can come to this revelation when it's the whole thematic theme of FO4. You don't play as your own character but the one given to you.

>>174510783
I don't really like the one given to me. I'd rather play the game without all that baggage.

>>174510386
>I don't know why Bethesda try to hard to make a defined character in Fallout when they're fine letting you do whatever you want in ES.

Fallout is not Elder Scrolls. You can't do whatever you want in Elder Scrolls; you're always the Neravine or Dragonborn. You can't do whatever you want in Fallout, you're always the Vault Dweller or a filthy tribal Chosen One.

Your options in the game are limited, you have never been able to do "whatever you want." You're essentially playing through a complex Choose Your Own Adventure book. Even tabletop games have limitations, not least due to the people you're playing with, which must also be accommodated. Even with the most permissive GM and free-form rules, your capacity to do anything is up to negotiation, not a given.

>>174510731
Naw. Blade weapons in science fiction are almost universally a fucking horrible idea unless we're talking a boot knife as a backup.

>>174510930
Chainswords are cool

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>>174509852

I'm going to make a plasma flamer variant

Not with my initial mod but a patch

I couldn't find one either, BTW. So I just downloaded a mod that made it do more damage. And Trainwiz's larger Shishkebabs mod.

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>>174511054
>chainswords
muh nigga

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>>174510930
You're boring.

>>174510863
I meant whatever 'you want in context' to RP, which is what the original argument was about - i think. Wasn't really following it. I know the options are limited to how you want to play it out; it's a videogame after all.

My problem here is I would prefer a black slate character to the one Bethesda is trying their earnest to immerse me in. It just feels unnecessary and obtuse, like giving them a voice - I'd rather just have something like the NWN voice sets.

Yes, the Vault Dweller is from a vault, and...? You're the dragonborn... and a prisoner, I guess, but nothing more then what feel would fit best in the world.

>>174511161
>>174510930
What about
Chainswords with mini lightsaber teeth

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>>174510930
The galactic empire had to invent a blaster that fires three bolts simultaneously because a jedi can use a lightsaber to deflect two incoming shots at the same time.

E.Ψ.Ǝ culters can also deflect bullets with their swords.

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>>174510930
t. first generic machine gun guy to die to blade-wielding cyborg

>>174511354
>black slate

Jungle fever?

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>>174511054

>>174511436
> a jedi can use a lightsaber to deflect two incoming shots at the same time
Why not just have three guys shoot at him at the same time

Seems the issue of fighting Jedi is one of not training individuals to engage them properly, not technology.

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>>174511430
Why not torches for teeth? Like welding torches.
Or how about LASER CHAINSAWS

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>>174511436

They also invented bullets that can't be deflected by lightsabers

Though that may not be mainstream Star Wars stuff

>>174511441
>>174511354
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Melee in Sci-fi has a place, but its pretty fucking bad in Fallout 4. I've had a super mutant block a melee power attack like ten times in a row so I just pulled out a gun and shot him.

>>174511441
>t. first generic machine gun guy to die to blade-wielding cyborg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qywGZZL0IA

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>>174511430
what about synth waifus with chainsaws?

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>>174511693
Knives are extra cool, better than full length swords I think -- but I like axe-wielding maniacs myself. Personally when I make a character I carry both, because a short blade can trump a large blade in certain situations. Of course I also carry a SMG because often ranged confrontation is often just unavoidable.

>>174511657
>melee fights
>get hit while rearing up a power attack
>am stunned
>hit an enemy rearing up a power attack
>get hit anyway

>get killmoved at full health because reasons

>>174512143
VATS trumps block every time.

I think the main reason they made it so enemies can deflect your strikes like that is to make VATS useful in melee, since sometimes it's the only way to take down a mirelurk with a super sledge.

Power strikes in power armor always go through, though.

Not a bad reason to wear power armor -- doing a full melee playthrough. It's sure OP with guns, after all.

>>174511354
The story required a pre-war citizen with a child. Could that set up have been implemented better and expanded? Yes. Could your dialogue and ropleplay options past the prelude been more sophisticated? Definitely yes.

I don't have an issue with the premise of the story. I don't have an issue with voiced protagonists. I think a more complex prelude to the game would have helped to immerse people in the role. More sophisticated dialogue than the "pick one of four, sometimes 3, 2, or one option disguised as 4" would have been better than what we got, they should have just ripped off the ME dialogue wheel completely, rather than half-ass it.

The story of what could have been. I'm not so wound up in nostalgia that I want a return to the Interplay/Black Isle system, but I was hoping for more than what was delivered by Bethesda. Hopefully marketing takes a step back for their next big title and allows the dev team to do their thing, without meddling. My expectations won't be as high for Skyrim 2, or Fallout 5, so I might be pleasantly surprised.

>>174511657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js0haocH4-o

The 21 foot rule exists for a reason, however, modern the military also gives soldiers firearms for a reason. It starts getting complex when you add Power Armor Pain Train bum-rushes to the mix, then again, vehicular homicide probably falls outside the scope of melee.

I'd like to see a Jedi try and block a speeding bus with a lightsaber.

>>174511560
They would need to link blasters so that they fire only when three or more soldiers are pressing the trigger at the same time and at the same range. If the bolts aren't landing at the same time, they can be deflected. The design of the repeater is based on the fact that a two bolts side by side can still be deflected with a line that intersects both, ie. the lightsaber. But a triangular configuration of bolts can't be deflected because a line can't intersect all three.

I'm pretty sure order66 included some special procedures for jedi elimination. The clones used very different tactics when fighting enemy platoons compared to the ones they were using when engaging singular jedi knights.