/ndg/ - NieR/Drakenguard General #64

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My savior and hero!

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A4 IS CUTE!

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I came into this game thinking I'd be fapping to 2B and ended up fapping to 9S.

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2B9S cutest lewdest couple.

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>>174397048
I want to dress him up in a clown costume.

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Goodnight, ndg!

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Nope. Couldn't do it. Engels 1-shot me even though I'm certain that I dodged that, his swings aren't hard to dodge.

>my save progress on this playthrough
>Literally hasn't begun as far as the game is concerned.

It's a good thing I like the intro music...
Please end the pain.

>>174398376
Best yandere

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>>174398697
Night!

>>174399349
I know that feel, I can recite the introduction by heart. I eventually gave up because life is way to short.

How the hell does this general ever survive the night?

Are the deeper parts of the abandoned factory open in route C?

>>174400002
The game is a melancholy masterpiece man.

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>>174400002
It didn't survive last night.

>>174400136
Agreed.

Where's the DLC where 2B loses her memory and is all happy and normal because she doesn't remember anything about 2B, but then 2B helps her get it back and she immediately switches back to being miserable and 9S doesn't understand why.

>>174400506
meant
>Remember anything about 9S, but then 9S**
Obviously.

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>>174400002
I didn't make this thread in particular, but I, a European for whom it's morning, have made quite a few of these generals when the previous one happens to die when it's night for Americans.

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>>174400686
2B's gloves are leather though. You can hear it as she grips her fist in frustration.

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What other outfits would you guys want from DLC?

>>174401235
too boring if I just say that I'd like other versions of 2B's normal outfit? A version where you could pick your hair accessory, top, and skirt would be fucking awesome. I don't care much for any of the ones they've announced yet.

>>174401504
Cute

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>mfw completing the "Emil's Determination" quest

>>174396979
Does anyone else find this shit beyond cringy?

>>174396990
The Japanese are trying to slowly turn us all into faggots

After the Grün boss I felt in the mood for shmups so I was playing some Ikaruga.

>I will not die until I achieve something. Even though the ideal is high, I never give in. Therefore, I never die with regrets.

>"Is this what we wished for?

>Don't worry, we will understand each other some day.

>And the life is succeeded into to the distant future."

Engrish aside it really activated my almonds during the credit boss.

(I'm bad at shmups I still haven't cleared chapter 2 of Ikaruga)

>>174399349
Don't give up.
If you make it, I will suck your dick.

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>>174401580

http://www.strawpoll.me/12778834

>>174400081
Yes. Enemies down there will be level 60.

>>174402546
Someone said A2=paper
2B=pencil
9S=pen

I don't get the pen one.

>>174398697
John: I really, really, really like this image.

>>174402023
It's a fuckin play of course its cringey.

>>174403017
it's a type of small tip non permanent marker pen, you know, for woodworking and stuff.

>>174403170
Too bad it's mine and you can't have it

>/ndg/ hostile as fuck during sleep hours
>/ndg/ friendly as fuck during free time
Living in this shithole does have its benefits.

>>174403379
That probably means it's a few anal people that go to sleep.

DLC for translated subs on JP voice when?
I didn't mind the English dub but when I play on JP I want to know what the characters are actually saying.

I recently learnt that setting 9S' companion AI to "Aggressive" can cause him to randomly attack friendly machines. Is that the case for other partners as well? Like when you're playing as 9S and set 2B's to aggressive? Would be cool if it was 9S-exclusive because he just hates machines so much.

>>174403536
I'd love to sleep with the anal people.

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>finish the game yesterday
>all of the good endings in one streak
>had unfinished business in various chapters
>areived at E ending and THERE HAD NEVER BEEN A HYPE LIKE THERE HAD BEEN WHEN I DID THAT BULLET HELL CREDITS SEQUENCE
>almost despair as Square Enix comes to kick my ass
>mfw connect to network
>YES YES YES YES
>never in my life did I feel so much sorrow for every time the tiny text prompt told me someone's data had been lost
>arrive all the way at the end, "Do you want to delete your data to help the others?"
>I got unfinished business in almost all chapters, but if it means helping others...
>yeah
>fuck yeah
>FUCK YEAH
>HIT THE BUTTON AAAAAHHHHH
>that fucking cinematic sequence
>in the end, back to main menu
>no "continue"
>press New Game
>all empty
>beautifully conflicting feels in my heart

The story had not enough message for my tastes, but fuck it. I love everyone out there (especially YOU, yeah, you!) and there should be more games out there that remind me why I'd fight for everyone I know and don't know.

>>174406057
Don't expect the answers to the complicated questions to come from vidya anon, the game makes that pretty clear.

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XBOX 360 copy of Nier finally arrives, having never heard of it and only bought it on the strength of Automata and these treads
>intro
>tutorial
nope
>first mission, go see popola
NOPE
>enter library, the exact same library that appears in automata
what have I missed. WHAT HAVE I MISSED

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>>174406057
>The story had not enough message for my tastes, but fuck it.

It's a bummer for you if you came to the game for such messages, but Yoko Taro has said numerous times that he doesn't feel it's his job as a game creator to actually impart messages onto his players. Granted, just by virtue of how freely you can interpret stories, some messages will always end up being conveyed to players, intended or not, but the impression I got from Taro is that he feels the interactive nature of games provides players with a space to search for meanings/messages themselves, rather then being told. That attitude certainly bled into the existentialist side of the story, I'm sure. I'm sorry I don't have more quotes -- my bookmark collection is kind of unmanageable right now -- but here is one such quote that hints at his attitude with regards to imparting messages unto players, extra relevant because it's about Ending E:

>In the midst of development, we had an idea of bringing out messages from overseas rooting for another player, and we wanted to build that into the structure. The idea was to bring out messages from conflicting countries – countries that could be in political conflict. We had that idea initially, but we didn’t feel like it was right for the designer to be forcing that on the players, so we shifted into providing a structure where random messages would appear in the player’s feed and ending, and have the players figure out for themselves what the purpose of this was.
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/03/28/yoko-taro-speaks-varied-endings-meanings-nier-automata/

Side note: I'm fairly certain he got the idea in the quote above from the Make a Friend Coke Machine he cited during his GDC talk. It's a vending machine with a video stream from the border between India and Pakistan and the point was for people from these conflicted areas to virtually shake hands through the screen to get a coke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO_d3fwTNPo&t=39m19s

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Why do they classify them as "machine lifeforms"?
Is it the concept art showing their skeleton faces? The weird leaps and bounds they can make by combining together in different ways?

Also, was Adam's creation in the fuck pit dumb luck or was it in the robots all along?

>Taro keeps posting food on his twitter

He's going to do it, isn't he..,

So the Replicants in the first Nier aren't androids right? Only Devola and Popola and I assume whatever leads them were right?
The Replicants only recently gained self-awareness, but how long has it been? Kaine has memories of being a child, so it must have been at the very least 10-12 years ago.
And since she also aged in that time, what the fuck happens when they die of old age? The Gestalts are supposed to be "placed in their corresponding shells", but how is that supposed to happen if the Replicants age and die?
Tyrann got into Kaine's body, but wasn't that only because she was fucked up to begin with?

If the Gestalt project started that long ago, why would Nier and Yonah still be around for the Shadowlord and his Daughter to take their bodies back? Shouldn't their Replicants be long dead by then?

>>174406921
Who says they were the first Nier and Yonah replicants?
I would guess they have been just replicating them at another Gestalt Project facility when one set of them dies off.

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>>174406238
I know this German rapper called Edgar Wasser, really great university student type rapper, puts lots of thought provoking stuff into his songs. He also denies having any interviews at all and made numerous songs about how the only message that his songs have is that they don't have a message. Been listening to his shit for a few years now so I'm used to this kind of thinking, but all I can filter out of it is this:

If you say you don't have a message, but still make what amounts to a statement like a song or a video game with certain contents, all it does is increase the number of answers to the questions you raised a little.

Every story points towards somewhere, even if it is a broad firing zone. So does this one. I always felt like saying it doesn't is at best an exercise in smoke-bombing, just to muddle the waters and cut off the most obvious solutions.

The game was intensely bleak, to the bone. The game was... open, also. As a guy who's not played any of Yoko taro's games before, I ended up comparing it a lot to Dark Souls. You know what I missed in this game? A Solaire type character. Not enough Gurren Lagann in this shit.

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>>174407219
>Not enough Gurren Lagann
Have you already forgotten...

So why does the Resistance have so many STG 44's?

>>174407296
Pascal's too soft. He really didn't seem like a shoulder to lean on and only got strong when he totally despaired out and gave up on his beliefs. Not a good look bro.

>>174407382
YorHa have Stahlhelms and the Ho-229 was the name of an experimental German jet. Japs love that stuff.

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>>174407219
the less gurren lagann in anything the better

>>174407789
You must hate ending E!

>>174407829
No? Gurren Lagann is shit. Why the fuck is something being slightly optimistic reminiscent of that piece of shit in your mind?

>>174407860
You must have shit taste!

>>174407891
Gurren Lagann is the epitome of shit taste. Why didn't you answer my question?

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>>174407780


Just seems a bit out of place, 3/4 squad members in this quest had one

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Thoughts on why these ladies are hanging around chatting in 8B's room? She's the lead deserter from the YoRHa Deserters subquest, so I'd expect her room to be empty, but there's an Operator and some combat unit in it. They aren't even talking about anything close to desertion or 8B. Just gossiping, more or less.

Datamining I found these audio files, which are basically both sides of these two androids's chatter:
https://a.safe.moe/FyGSQ.ogg
https://a.safe.moe/cL5gX.ogg

Straight-up gossip with no relation to 8B. The interesting part is that androids work out and somehow improve their figure from it, though that's probably less canon and more Taro writing what he thinks girls talk about.

What's weirder is that 8B or her Operator have a line about her destroying their enemy too:
https://a.safe.moe/YSOq1.ogg

>>174407983
it's almost like armies have standard issue weaponry they give out to troops

>>174407891
>>174407924
Not either of you, but breaking news, people have different reactions to things! Details at 11.

>>174407924
You must have shit taste, and also be suicidal, or near it!

>>174408027

Yes but its a rare rifle from WW2, why would you make that your standard rifle

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>>174408000
First off, sweet triples.

Second being I don't know how often rumors of YoRHa betrayals circulate. They seem pretty tight lipped about whenever someone goes rogue.

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Move Gurren Lagann discussion to >>>/a/ you shits.

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>>174408151
More A2 needed.

Proposal: Initiate image dump & discussion of best bottos.

>>174408214
I expected A2 to do some full scale memory meld thing with 2Bs sword and end up doing some really fucking creepy love yandere type shit to 9S when he inevitably came to murder her for killing 2B, seriously weirding him out and confusing both his head and boner.

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>>174408298
I thought it would become an ongoing manhunt mechanic.
Sorta wish that A2 and 9S butted heads a couple more times in route C/D. It's for the best, though. It's perfect as is.

>>174408000
>exercise having any visible impact on android bodies

It boggles my mind how Taro can have so much attention to detail in some places and just not give any fucks at all in others.

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>>174408214
It's fairly vanilla within the game's fandom but I still think 2B's best. Those boots are just hngh...

>>174408081
Because the Androids are the Nazis/Axis powers in this World War II allegory. Brave foot soldiers fed propaganda lay down their lives as the leaders of their society, who hardly even consider them human, callously move them across the board from on high in pursuit of a master race that doesn't exist.

Or this is all bullshit I made up on the spot because it's more interesting than saying 'they thought the Nazi aesthetic looked cool' for the twentieth time.

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>>174408529
She looks phenomenal in her combat gear too.

I hope there is much more costume DLC to come to dress these bots up more.

>>174408414
I wanted 9S to at least get counter-lewded a little. The point where Adam/Eve asks him if he wants to **** 2B had me laughing till I had side stitches.

>>174408502
These androids (the Yorhas at least) apparently have fucking dopamine distribution centers in their brains (Jackass' combat data mission), can get drunk, can die from eating food that is poisonous to them, are susceptible to their kind of NBC warfare etc. It's safe to say that whoever designed them went way further on the literal meaning of Android than was actually necessary and just tried to reconstruct the human body in a mechanical copy as close to 1:1 as possible. I'm fairly certain that their blood is largely made of nanomachines and if they'd ever figure out how to have sex they could likely even have kids.

>>174399353
The number of yanderes in this game is terrifying.
>The Opera Singer
>Eve
>9S

Who am I missing? The game should all be be renamed to "don't touch my waifu."

>>174408502
It's only weird because in the sidequest where you have to find medicine for that moose the characters talk about how humans got fat from eating too much and 2B & 9S are like "Fuck that shit!"

You could easily bullshit something into the canon where android bodies optimise bodyparts's efficiency for use and using it through working out thus alters their shape, but, like I said, that possibility is annihilated, even in headcanon, by the aforementioned subquest dialogue.

As I said, though, it just seems like Taro writing generic girl gossip and less like him trying to extend the canon. I'm not even sure how accurate the translation is, but it seems like an easy enough inconsistency to just ignore.

>>174408621
I hope so too, but I wish they actually base it on her model because the Kaine one looks like it's based on Kaine's model, going by the butt. Not hating on Kaine at all, but 2B's butt is way bigger and I'd love to see it in Kaine's lingerie.

So the quest to get desert rose's for Popola bugged out for me, I collected them last night, and today I went to hand them in only to find out I have 0 in my inventory, and theres no markers on the map, and when I go back I cant get any more

Am I fucked?

Do we actually find out what happens to 6O? I've done all sidequests except Emil and Speed Star and I don't remember anything mentioning her

>>174408825
Does 21O/B qualify? she was more of a kuudere before she was hacked and went nuts. But then she was hacked and went nuts.

>>174408825
>Pascal, when pushed into a corner, will choke a bitch for the kids.
>The sleeper agent type E robot in the Amnesia sidequest

Looks like everyone has a little Kaim in them in this post-apocalyptic waifu war.

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>>174408892
They should either use Kaine's body as a base and include her bulge, or use 2B's body as a base, thicc butt included, with hot lingerie. Kaine's body without the bulge or 2B's without her butt are just half-assing it.

>>174409014
Even if it's fucked, just finish a route and use chapter select.
The game likes to bug out on weird shit from time to time.

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>>174409078
>half-assing
i c wut u did thar

>>174409019
What do you mean? She dies aboard the Bunker in Route C. You even get unique dialogue if you did her Desert Flower sidequest that makes it very clear she got infected with the virus.

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>>174409142
I did the flower quest. I guess I must have killed her without realizing. Sorry 6O.

>gathering keepsakes end

;_;

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>>174409450
I'm not sure she's an enemy there, she's talking over the intercom. I don't think there's an intel file or anything in the game that explicitly says "6O died" but this is her extra dialogue on the Bunker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N0qSSYKkew

Made it seem pretty clear to me that she's virus'd up to shit and didn't make it off the Bunker.

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>>174409450
Besides the obviously sad ending to that quest, I always felt really, really bad for the questgiver because his dialogue makes it seem like he's just overwhelmed with sorrow and randomly reaches out to random human rituals he knew to do something about his grief.

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>>174410041
And what's worse is: One of his friends who dies has a bunch of dialogue that basically implies he's desperate to help the great YoRHa units and wants some recognition for his work, basically making it seem like he only went out to the expedition they died on to help you.

>>174409881
Oh ok, I assumed she must have been one of the enemies when you're protecting the commander. I remember seeing those subtitles but was too focused on fighting. Thanks

>>174403379
It's because Americans are retarded fuckwits. They have great minds at the top of society that made the internet possible to begin with, and those select-few certainly have a lot of influence in the world, but blimey are their average to bottom feeder people that you'd find knocking about on 4chan worthless, irredeemable trash.

>>174410774
>their average to bottom feeder people that you'd find knocking about on 4chan worthless
literally every lower class person in literally every country. maybe you should leave yours every once in a while muhammed

>>174410135
Also the same resistance member who had a crush on 2B... sheeeit.

>>174411120
Really? Don't remember that.

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>>174406836
I'm not entirely sure how common that name actually is. Most characters in the game seem to refer to them as "the machines" and even Adam, when you meet him in the Copied City, needs to correct himself to use the "Machine Lifeforms" moniker. But either way, the machines have clearly attained "life" in some form, even though they're artificial, just like the androids, so I always took that term for them as referring to that. The androids, who operate under the assumption that machines are dumb idiots with no consciousness, using that name doesn't make a lot of sense, but like I said, I didn't get the impression it was commonly used.

What's interesting is that apparently the Japanese original is closer to "Bio-Machines." I don't mean to imply that it means the machines were supposed to come across as more organic, but that it ties into frequent allusions to plants and plant life with regards to the machines. In the Japanese version, they even go so far as to call areas with machines in them "infested" with "Bio-Machines", similar to how actual plants are retaking the city. Might not seem meaningful, but there are a lot other comparisons to plants from machines to aliens that carried over into English which make that info more important.

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>>174411169
Me neither. Who's the one you're talking about? Not ruling out there is dialogue that could be read as such, I just don't remember which one you might be referring to.

>>174411106
I'm extremely White, and so is most of my homeland. Sorry your country isn't making a great impression as of late.

>>174411409
t. british """""""empire"""""""

>>174411169
>>174411358
When you speak to the guy sitting opposite to >>174410135 he says "sorry, I think my friend has a crush on you" / "likes you" - something along those lines.

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>>174411376
Oh, I think I know what you're referring to, but he just says "seems to like you." Maybe there's more dialogue I've missed, but "crush" isn't something I remember being used about that guy.

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I just quit from Final Fantasy Brave Exvius not too long ago because of how unlucky I am with the gatcha system of the game only to be tempted to go back because of this...

>>174411494
Meant for >>174411459 since they deleted their post to address more replies.

>>174411494
My memory isn't so great, it's been a while since I played. I took it to mean more than that because hot female + socially awkward random guy trying to talk to you, but it's just my interpretation.

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>>174411494
In my not so humble opinion I think you should increase the brightness setting in your game 1 or 2 notches. It's looking a bit dark there.

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>9S was actually popular enough to get his own nickname
>he's actually quite smooth with females aside from 2B herself
What 2B thought about him being cherished by other YoRHa androids, i wonder.

>>174411604
You can certainly read it as such, yeah. I took it more as him being infatuated with the idea of helping out these YoRHa troops, but it may as well be about 2B specifically. In the absence of explicit lore, both seem equally valid.

>>174411696
Might be my monitor being miscalibrated. I've had 0 issues seeing shit in the game and it neither seemed too bright, nor too dark. Sorry if that makes the screenshots borked for you, but everything looked fine to me when I took them.

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>>174411751
>>he's actually quite smooth with females aside from 2B herself
Is he? 21O is fairly standoff-ish as well until she goes all sploosh about wanting a family of her own. The other women he interacts with are Anemone, with, as far as I'm aware, 0 flirting between them, Devola & Popola, with maybe a little flirting here and there but nothing significant and maybe the Commander being all tsun but still revealing the great YoRHa secret to him just for kicks. From these women only 2B is actually after the shota dick, the others seem to be acquaintances at best, not really giving me the impression 9S is somehow super successful with women.

How is it that the only fucking person to mention how smoking hot 2B is in the entire fucking game is Emil? And he even said it chaste like "beautiful".

I mean Christ. Come the fuck on.

>>174413110
Well, you clearly have 6O going wet over her, at least. On top of 9S obviously wanting to **** her. What are the Emil lines you're referring to, by the way? Got a screenshot?

>>174413315
I think it's one of his lines when you stop him as A2. He asks if you know 2B and then gushes about how beautiful and helpful she is. Basically shows he has no idea what happens to her.

>>174406710
>idea of bringing out messages from overseas
Did you put the real country where your player lives?
Copied City

>oh ok lets do these two robot village side quests, then pick up the book pascal wants so we can get it done all in one trip back
>HAHAHHA GET FUCKED PLAYER

why did they do this

We're going to get a good amount of actual DLC though right? Automata blew DoD3 out of the fucking water sales wise so I expect SE not to be completely fucking retarded and dump money on taro and plat to make some worthwhile DLC

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>>174396736
Can someone gift me the game? I really want to play it, but i can't right now.
Steam: hukii72

>>174414064
It's a Taro game made by Platinum.

I want to know why people like 9S. He starts off as an annoying, defiant little shit and later becomes a psychotic asshole. I know he gets fucked up because of 2B and the truth about yorha, but it's hard to feel sorry for him when he was a snotty little wanker to begin with.

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>>174413110
There's an entire Bunker full of hot females who are constantly helping Resistance.
By the time 2B comes, people probably already got familiar with having such cuties around all the time.
>9S calls the redhead "pretty" which sends 2B into a fit of jealousy
>redhead and 2B have almost the same face

>>174414464
I want a Taro game made by competent people to make it look like a normal game, but they hide the fact that it's made by him so I can watch the confusion and complaints because people didn't expect shit.

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>>174414789
Yeah, well, he is a cunt. But then again, he had no bros. Lil kids / shits like him need a Bro to balance their natural brattiness out and smack them back in line whenever they start totally fucking up. All the bullshit that got the second half of the game going totally off the rails could have been prevented if he had a proper Aneki type character to backhand him a few times and ask him a few of those back-breaking questions anime is generally so fond of, then hug him and tell him that bros can handle this together.

Then die, because older bros always do. Such is lyfe.

>>174414789
He's an extremely competent and chill guy who serves as 2B's guardian angel and constantly does crazy stunts to both keep her safe and complete the mission. He's the one who sees and understands the most about what is really going on so his actual free will showing up once in a while shouldn't be surprising.

And anyone would go mad in route C if they were on his place. In fact, he managed to stay sane for longer time than Popola in first Nier who went nuclear seconds after her sister's death.

>>174411751
There was that one sidequest about a woman that gets 2B quite grumpy.

She can get jealous.

>>174399349
After 10 hours, I gave up and played it on easy, just so I could play with autochips, then put the game back in hard at the flying unit part of the Engels battle. I feel bad, kind of, but I'm having a lot more fun and challenge now that I'm actually playing the real game. First Adam fight was great.

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>>174396815
But Jackass is the one who'll put an end to all this.

>>174414789
>He starts off as an annoying, defiant little shit
Did we play the same game?

>>174414208
I would if the port wasn't so goddamn awful. There's no way of knowing if it will even be playable on your computer.

>>174414064
>tfw autistically doing every single side quest available before touching any main quests finally paid off for me

Dunno if it's worth it for how much it extends playtime and drags out the game tho.

>>174415137
Competent and chill? He's a scanner, his skills are basically built into him. It's not like he's some kinda prodigy who went to engineering school at age 12. And route C, well. He's a bloodthirsty little bastard. "Most" people would have suffered extremely with grief, but only a small part of the people in the world would decide to take it out on everything they come across in an extremely violent manner. Me, I'm more the quiet suffering type, or if I do get up and do something about it, the answer seeker. I wouldn't want blood, I'd want an explanation. Fuck, I'd likely bully A2 into overwriting her own memories with 2B's set so I can fucking reverse-engineer my own waifu back into existence.

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>>174415547
By what i saw on the internet i think it won't bug out on my pc.

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>>174415649
>He's a scanner, his skills are basically built into him.
Except Scanners don't use melee weapons which means he's self-trained.
Nor do all models possess his unorthodox way of thinking.
Without him every major battle would end up as a failure. He's the only reason Grun was beaten at all or 2B managed to escape the Factory.
>He's a bloodthirsty little bastard
He's a soldier who can't stop.

>>174415649

9S is clearly an incredibly competent scanner, since no other scanners can match up to his type of out of the box strategy and his inquisitiveness, and he's powerful enough to go toe to toe with combat Yorha androids with only one weapon

>>174415928
No, he's not a soldier. I am a soldier, and no soldier in our armies fights with this kind of... framework, lets put it like that. He's a -warrior- type straight out of mythic tales, because the war is all he knows. Soldiers have a world of peace to go back to, and expect to go back to also. A family, a home, friends, hobbies. They KNOW it MUST be over, generally at some point within the next three to five years unless shit goes seriously wrong.

He? He's nothing without the war. He's exclusively fighting. A peacetime scenario is an out of context problem to him, so of course he cannot even imagine it, or work towards it. You could make an excellent point that he's simply a child soldier, and that would be true for almost all Yorha. He's broken from the get go, because while normal people have to LOSE their connection to ordinary life first, he never had that proper foundation in the first place.

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>>174416305
>so of course he cannot even imagine it, or work towards it
There's no thing both him and 2B want more than this shitty war to end so they can live in peace.

>>174396736
So I'm up to fighting Emil
I'm level 65 and hacking does next to no damage. Do I need to grind more? I don't feel like fighting a boss for an hour.

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Who even started the Yorha project now? What kind of assface android general did it? Or was it somehow engineered by the Red Girl terminals?

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>>174416445
>Who even started the Yorha project now? What kind of assface android general did it?

>>174416390
>Do I need to grind more?
He's level 99. What do you think?

>>174416445
Emil did it all

>>174416493
SQUAREUH ENIXU

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>>174416375
> Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact… same fucking thing… over and over again, expecting… shit to change.

Yeah, les' go smash some more machine lifeforms hermano. Gonna be different now than it was during the other times we tried in the last 6000 fucking years.

>>174416696
>using le reddit man with le reddit definition quote of insanity
please don't post again :)

>>174416620
If it wasn't for Emil, we would be overrun with plant-brain aliens.
Emil died for our sins.

>>174416696
Entire point of the game is that machines actually evolve and eventually get over it.
And both 2B and 9S are machine core-based.

I still don't know the actual scale of YoRHa and the Resistance.

At first i thought the Resistance were like a rebel group, used gorilla tactics, etc. But they have a fucking carrier

And the Bunker is always reffered to as THE Bunker so i thought there was only one

>>174416923
>actual scale of YoRHa
1 space station + moon server.
>Resistance
9 combat orbital stations, 4 laser satellites.

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>>174414208

Are the YoRHa androids on the moon also supposed to die?

>>174416978
so YoRHa really is just that?
I guess it makes sense now that i think about it

>>174417037
You already got one you fuck. Nobody is going to give you free shit.

>>174416761
I'm still confused on that, Emil talks about how he fought alongside human against the aliens, but the commander said that by the time the aliens arrived, humanity was long dead

Is this a plot hole, is the commanders data bad, or is Emil's memories wrong?

>>174416923
>gorilla tactics

excuse me

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>>174416785
After six thousand years, they should be! Jesus. It's a mark of failure that the most combat effective models in the Android army are basically jailbroken Machine Lifeforms stuffed into an android-shaped sleeve also, BUT at the SAME TIME are only intended to be a PR stunt and to be expended very soon. Who the FUCK thinks this kind of strategy up? You could do a PR stunt, and you may also do the super soldier thing, but why would you combine the two into one? That's BOUND to backfire and fuck you up.

>>174416923
The Resistance is a pretty large organization that I assume spans the entire globe, the ones we see are just a small group deep in robot lines

>>174417052
Yes, almost all died in the explosion or the virus, I think the only non-protag survivor was 4S, although I hear the Commander survived and is floating through space

>>174417184

How is it a fuckup? Yorha accomplished its purpose, albeit a deceitful one

>>174417184
>After six thousand years
I'm fairly sure actual machine wars took less than that.
200 years ago Anemone was a part of eight descent forces which probably means 8 machine war.

>>174417118
There's another thing like this when you go back to the Forest in route C. When some machines attack you they shout "accursed humans!" Presumably referring to you, an android. But they know what an android is and there are no humans, so why do they say humans?

>>174417268
If you got ending E, the three most lethal (and by now, vindictive) members of the force survived with their memories intact AND Jackass got the entire report on what Yorha was from the get go through one of the pods. If there would ever be an Automata 2 (fat fucking chance tho) the story would likely be about the three of them teaming up with Jackass to kick infinite amounts of crusty old Android general ass.

>>174417356
I assume the aliens were prepared to encounter humans specifically, and programmed the machines for them, although again, maybe the data is incorrect?

>>174417268
What was it's actual purpose? It was to trick the resistance into thinking that the humans were still alive right? But then what's the point in killing off YoRHa if they are such good soldiers? Don't they still want to win the war? Plus, people already believed that the humans were still alive without needing to destroy their own their own forces, so what's the point?

>>174417118
probably Emil's memories. They make a point in the drama CD that he's basically all alone on the planet with the remaining wildlife and androids

>>174417494
>But then what's the point in killing off YoRHa if they are such good soldiers?
Did you play the game? They dispose of older models but use their data to make newer and better ones

>>174417494

To cut off the paper trail to the fake human server, getting rid of evidence. Also no, androids were beginning to believe humans were gone, which is why Yorha was created alongside the human council server

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>>174412308
N2 takes quite a keen interest in him

>>174416696
As opposed to all the people we've been killing for the last 6000 years?
Inb4 those were different wars.
This is the 14th machine war.

>you'll never start a family with 21O

End me now

>>174417717
Couldn't they use their combat data to build new ones without killing the old ones? Seems like a waste.
>>174417724
This I can see though. But what about correspondence emails and the PSA stuff that's sent from the moon server? Will they just stop since the YoRHa androids there are dead?

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>>174417724
This is a stupid plot by retards in the first place. Instead of allowing the Androids to grow up and deal with the fact that the humans have been dead for millennia, they still tried to clutch onto that old lie.

Accept reality and move on. Give your own life meaning instead of pining for dreams in the past. Pic related. 9S has the same issue in the latter half of the game, and it fucks him and his up in turn.

>>174417423
Actually yeah that kind of works because the machines in the forest are disconnected from the network (I forgot about this), so it would be understandable if they thought androids were human or just didn't know the difference because they only have their original programming and whatever they've been told by the king and other disconnected machines

>>174417052
All black box signals are offline.
The only non-black box android in project was Commander.
So i'm fairly sure everyone are dead including moon server personnel.
Actually, i'm fairly sure N2 probably killed Resistance commanders as well because it wanted to nuke the Moon and utterly crush androids, leaving their commanding stuff alive would be weird.

>>174418165
N2 didn't want to nuke the moon. The Tower was a launch platform for a space rocket shooting a machine arc into deep space to colonize some other planet.

>>174417197

There's also the drugged-up duo in the oil slick, and the cutie fisheryorha in the oasis.

>>174418036

If you check your emails post Yorha destruction, the human server is still sending out PSA's to the Resistance about the state of the war and 'humanity', to keep up the facade that Humanity is still alive, despite the end of Yorha

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>>174418226
>N2 didn't want to nuke the moon
It wanted, originally. It only changed its mind at the very end.

>>174418104

Everyone needs something to fight for anon

>>174418165
4S is still alive though

>>174418036
>seems like a waste to destroy and probably recycle older androids instead of keeping them in service and still requiring maintenance despite being worse than in use models
really gets the noggin joggin

>>174418325
>4S is still alive though
He's alive before ending E. Pods confirm that by that point everyone is dead.

>>174418342
This, sometimes buying a new car is cheaper than maintaining an old one

>>174418036
>. But what about correspondence emails and the PSA stuff that's sent from the moon server?
It's an automated server. Probably just relayed the last messages commander put into it.
When 2B is dying, server is talking about rolling out new models that would ensure victory. And earlier Commander tells 9S they are going to mass-produce his model because of how awesome he's.

Since 2B's job is to kill 9S when he finds out the truth, does that mean she herself knows that the humans are dead? I thought only the commander was allowed to know.

>saying farewells with Devola before entering the tower
>fucking Emil drives up and starts blasting his dumb tune

IM TRYING TO HAVE A MOMENT HERE

>>174418325
>Everyone needs something to fight for anon
Then make your own fight! Set your own goals! Dream your own dream! This is the only thing separating androids from humans as far as I can tell!

And fuck, this is exactly what Yorhas could do. 9S and his t-shirt plan for 2B show that. And they have machine lifeform cores. It REALLY weirds me out that the most advanced ones (emotionally speaking) have machine lifeform cores, because that implies that the machine lifeform tech is just so much more advanced than the old human tech that they ALWAYS have the potential to evolve, even when left singular and alone, disconnected from the network.

>>174418449
She gets a direct order from Commander, killing him is anything but her free will.
I have a huge suspicion that 153 spies on 9S.

>>174418475
same shit happened to me
and when I was fighting father servo
little shit can't stop playing his song for ONE second

>>174418359
But why? Nothing happened except for the destruction of the tower, it has nothing to do with 4S, i am sincerely asking cause i have no fucking clue of it and always wondered that

>>174418475
Did you make sure to buy something? He was just trying to give you good deals.

>>174418597
>But why?
A scout model with no combat functions is an easy prey in a kingdom full of griefing, enraged machines.

>>174418475
Exactly the same shit happened to me. I thought that for a second Yoko Taro was gonna be merciful and have Emil crash the sad moment and dispense infinite Ultra Recovery kits or some shit and heal the two up for the last stretch of the game to have as companions, but fuck no.

>>174418165
Are you sure that the Commander didn't have a black box too? The file that talks about how black boxes are made from machine cores has an SS level restriction, so not even the Commander is allowed to know that.
What would be the reason to keep that from her if she didn't have a black box as well?

>>174418643
Yep but inst he made with the same technology of 9S? Or i he an older model? Cause 9S did survive that shit...well, thanks to the pods

>>174418769
>Are you sure that the Commander didn't have a black box too
"Commander in charge of YoRHa. Consequently is privy to a myriad of top-secret information. She is the only android within the Bunker that is not a YoRHa model. Strict in her commands, she shows little emotion out in the open, but her worries over 2B and 9S are apparent. Has a tendency to be careless with her own personal effects; her room is in such a clutter that other personnel are prohibited from entering it. Seems to have a connection with a past military operation involving A2."

>>174418791
9S is an experimental, top of the line model that does crazier stunts than 2B and arguably goes on the largest murder rampage of all characters utterly decimating anything on his path and wrecking flight units on foot.

4S is obviously a simple scout, they aren't supposed to handle weapons at all.

>>174418702
I wonder if Emil had any memory left of the two, given he died stopping Popola, although probably not since he doesn't seem to even have a clear memory of Kaine

>>174418920
I want 9S to fuck me hard all night, he is awesome

>>174418702
Pretty sure ultra recovery kits wouldnt have helped anyone but Devola at that point(who wouldn't have accepted one anyway), the hack into the tower killed Popola

>>174418987
I want to hug 9S and tell him it'll be alright

>>174418791
>"I'm going to kill you"?
>That's my line
-9 "Not a combat model" S

>>174419048
To be fair, after the C playthrough began, I think I didn't kill a single enemy by slashing them with 9S, I went all in on the hacking game.

Did 9S think about jerking off with his 2B hand?

>>174418104
>grow up and deal
>Accept reality and move on
Funny how the exact opposite is the pivotal theme throughout the whole game, both for androids and machines, through their respective understandings and ways of dealing with it. How could you complete the whole game and not realize it once?
>Why do I desire the touch of something that no longer exists?

>>174419187
Hacking is a natural part of his combat abilities.
As well as shooting spears like he has a portable railgun.

>>174419187
>he didn't experience a joy of actually using his large sword or spear moveset, some of the best movesets in the entire game

>"9S, come by my room later for your reward, ok?"
>It's just some chips

I'm still pissed about this

>>174418507
I don't think android command realized just how alive androids are.
They seem to have an act now think later policy.
As far as I know they don't even have a post war plan i.e. they reclaimed the earth, why aren't the humans coming back?

>>174419419
They probably scrambled for any kind of purpose after the Gestalt project failed and all the humans just fucking died.

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Here's the specific document detailing the fall of Yorha and what happens with the server, to the guy asking


The game was rigged from the start


>>174419419
Pretty sure the plan was to keep the androids motivated enough to wipe out the machines, then worry about post-machine life afterwards. Although who knows, Android command is pretty damn deceitful, I wouldn't be surprised if they have a plan to fake the destruction of the moon to justify the humans being killed

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>>174419206
This is some grim Naegi shit we got ourselves into

>>174419254
I did notice very much. It pissed me off to no end. Everyone's stupid around here, stuck in Freuds' anal phase.

There could have at least been one fucking person in the world who manages to blaze a trail. I don't know if Jackass counts.

>>174419206
He'd exclusively use it to **** while ******* ***** ******

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>>174419362
I doubt it would be just chips if she didn't decide to convert to 21B in last second.

>>174419041
9S would probably stab you for getting in the way of his rampage.

>>174419419

Do you think Android Command were purposely designed by humanity as a failsafe to control the android population?

>>174419507
>There could have at least been one fucking person in the world who manages to blaze a trail
There's a point when you realize that it's too late for you or anyone to blaze trails. Some thousands of years after the extinction of humanity is about that time. And then you have to somehow continue living despite understanding that. That's also roughly the starting point of Nier: Automata. You might consider replaying.

>>174419505
>Here's the specific document detailing the fall of Yorha and what happens with the server, to the guy asking
>The game was rigged from the start
>I wouldn't be surprised if they have a plan to fake the destruction of the moon to justify the humans being killed

That's pretty grim but I doubt it.
As far as they're concerned, the androids need the hope of humanity's return.

>>174419559
Nah, he is a good boy but is extremely hurt by all that happened, he just need a hug and some time with 2B after ending E, i am sure he will be overly protective with 2B after that ;_;

>>174419730
No, that's exactly what I fucking mean. With blaze a trail I mean in their heads. Who cares about humanity? Like I already said in there >>174418507, make your own destiny instead of sticking to the one you were assigned.

>>174419821
I am sure they're going to fuck like rabbits as son as they wake up and likely conceive some kinda nanomachine baby.

>>174419639
I never really gave it much thought.
I never played NieR but I assume some androids at the top of the Gestalt project decided to take charge when everything went to shit.

Do you think 9S listens to Death Grips?

>>174419821
After ending E he won't need you to console him.
2B is more than capable.

>>174420012
I think 9S listens to Death Metal, at least in the second part of the game
>LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR

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>>174419821
2B needs him as much as 9S needs her.
It will be a crazy healing.

>>174420012
Nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffl4HDp-_S4

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>lunar tear field is now vacant and will probably die without Emil
>nothing stops 2B and 9S from occupying that place

>>174419419
Ironically, by pretending the humans are still alive they remove the slim hope of bringing the humans back by developing the technology to birth new humans from the genetic/memory information on the moon server.

But anyway the whole point was that the entire war was pointless and that both machines and androids were creating an eternal conflict to perpetuate the lie that their existences had meaning.

>>174420090

>everything is going to be alright 21O....
>BECAUSE IM GOING TO RIP OUT YOUR GUTS

>>174420467
I imagine that 9S is standing on a big beer crate or something because NO HE WILL NEVER BE THAT TALL

>>174418507
I actually wonder if machine core-based lifeforms have such a potential because machine cores share something with Gestalts which means they are technically souls.

>>174420491

I'm pretty sure they said at some point the minuscule amount of Replicant DNA they managed to salvage is unlikely to cause the rebirth of humanity

>>174420608
How's that possible anyway? it's possible to save a complete human genome (digitally) even nowadays, and we only have the year 2017. How could they fuck up saving a few hundred thousand (million) genomes by the year 3XXX?

>>174418507

>Then make your own fight! Set your own goals! Dream your own dream!

Yeah, but they're trying to prevent the androids from killing eachother off before they even deal with the machines. You don't want a situation like we see in game with everyone breaking off into dangerous factions, like the religious machines/forest kingdom

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>>174420529
They are the same height without footwear.
She's just shivering

>>174420690
Don't care, 9S will forever be the cute shota for me.

>>174420686
Well, as it turns out, if the androids would start infighting like ma,d the Machines would likely just kill themselves out of boredom/despair because now their reason to exist, that is, defeating the enemy, is undermining itself.

>>174420012
>>174420090
Yes, experimental Hip-Hop during routes C and D. I can see him listening to some Tyler stuff

Alright guys. The war's over.
How do we stop these peons from asking why their gods aren't coming back?

>>174420690
I don't think that's footwear, I think it's permanently installed into her feet.

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>>174420921
>it's him again

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>>174419851
Destiny is a concept made by humans to describe human view on the meaning of their existence. Everyone in Nier: Automata except Emil is a machine. Even the concept of destiny, hope, anything, they'd have to borrow from humans. They can't be genuine about it like you are because it was never something that belonged to them let alone made sense to them. Throughout the game all they do is desperately try to understand the meaning of all sorts of things by emulating humans, which ends up in failure and is ridiculed in the case of the machines.

There's no destiny when there's no self-consciousness, and Automata deals with the problems that arise just on the brink of that consciousness forming, in case of the protagonists and the pods.

Your suggestion, although reasonable, is on a completely different wavelength from anything happening in the story.

>>174420889
We tell them the truth by spreading machine report. Together with a message that they need to find a new reason to live and that they aren't different from humans at all as far as consciousness goes.
Sure, some androids will kill themselves. But it's necessary for them to move forward.

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>>174420889
Turns out the gods were the friends you made along the way (???) (PRANK) (GONE WRONG) (GONE SEXUAL) (HELP THE PLEBS ARE RAPING ME TO DEATH)

That fucking bitch in the wandering couple pissed me off. I hate but love how quite a few of the side quests in this game are not how they seem.

>>174421075
If we do that, they will try to overthrow us.
>>174421112
I can't imagine this is going to end well.

>>174420673
The main problem is that soul is a very concrete and tangible thing in Nierverse. Can't exactly create humans when you don't have spare souls anymore.

>>174420828
Sure, the machines might just give up out of boredom, but the androids obviously have no idea how they work, they didn't even know the aliens had been dead for over a millenia.

>>174421051
They're human enough in my eyes. Hell, if you'd drop me in there and nobody would tell me I'd likely think I was surrounded by humans until somebody gets shot in the face and just says "Oh damn, I'll have to rearrange the wiring in my skull again".

Seems like they just don't have the right thought basis to get it going on the proper. They -don't- think. They just circle the drain of "lets kill some more machine lifeforms forever". If even a single one of them would, like, get shot in the head and his servility-circuits would get fried, and he'd decide that all he wants is to GTFO, shack up in an old missile silo and convert an ICBM into a Mars one-way ticket, that'd already be a break from the rails they seem to be on.

>>174420889
OH SHIT THE ALIENS BLEW UP THE MOON

>>174421338
Well, I reckon I should get to playing Nier 1 then.

>>174421319
You made your bed, now sleep in it. Lies always come back around.

>>174421338
Just use Emils soul

>>174421570
The first Nier was precisely about soul related problems, so to speak. Knock yourself out.

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>>174421675
Stop it this instant. Emil has suffered enough.

>>174421663
Are you abandoning us?
You know this won't end well for you.

>>174419942
Do you think they will get tired of fucking?

>>174421793
Fuck Emil, he's never selling what I need, and he gives me contradictory information about the past

>>174421837
They're fusion powered, they never get tired. They may have to stop for maintenance though.
>Ey Popola, can you exchange my dick for one that still works? 2B's smashed this one again. Also I need more hip reinforcement.

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Zero and Caim costume DLC WHEN?!!?

>>174420046
To be fair, 2B is the ONLY ONE that can do it

>>174421837
>9S, I think the paint is starting to come off in my pelvis area

>>174420608
I understand the possibly is extremely slim, but if they aren't trying it's 0%. I suppose they realized the possibilty was near zero and decided that a pointless and endless war was the better solution to a meaningful existence.

>>174421482
They're very clearly not human once you penetrate into their mind, they struggle to understand the concepts of free will, consciousness, purpose, and relationships. After all, in the end they're just machines created to serve mankind. They're essentially just mimicking what humans thought and dis because "That's what they'd do", you can even see this on a more blunt level with the pods who are just starting to question the purpose and logic of the bonds they've created with their androids.

It also doesn't help the last human left in the universe who could try to explain any of this, is a 12 year old child whose mind has been worn by many millenia of decay and magic

>>174422171
Well that's what the pods did who are about as robotic as you can get, but the androids themselves seemed perfectly fine. Especially the named main cast. 6O especially springs to mind. 9S himself wants to relax with a bath and dinner because it "feels good" in his own words, so clearly they're already kinda on the same wavelength and only need some war-free times to really come into their own.

>>174420981
I've also seen horseshit theories that none of the androids have skin on but instead they're pulling a Laughing man and hacking everyone so they see them with skin on.

>>174422109
I think the other major issue is of course the lack of genetic diversity, even if they managed to recreate humanity. Whatever they make would die off again in only a few generations. It's probably why Command said there's hundreds of thousands of humans on the moon, to ensure the idea that repopulation is viable

>>174422386
The Devola and Popola story even states that they have artificial skin and blood.

>>174422404
If you're a machine, you can just generate ten billion variances in the same genome and see which ones are capable of survival, then chuck them into the mix. Evolution is mutation is just random flips in the genetic code, handed down over millions of years. Machines can do that easily.

>>174422484
It's amazing how advanced Devola and Popola were given that they are ancient.
Their models could use magic too and from what i remember in taroverse its linked to having a soul.

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Why don't the androids just invade Drakengard and take their humans?

>>174422559
What you were meaning to say is "it's amazing how static android development has been over the last 6000 fucking years". It seems androids don't make good engineers.

>>174417952
it seemed to be more like how a kid would take an interest in an insect though.

rip its wings out, pin it to a wall, use a magnifying glass to try burning it, kick the anthill down and so on.

>>174422968
It'd be a weird relationship. More like how an unbelievably powerful bottom may take interest in a very weak top. They want to be fucked hard (because of muh evolutionary pressure), but to make it happen they'd have to bow and scrape and lower their own powerlevel, which apparently excites them.

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>>174422968
>9S was shown capable of integrating balls deep into the network
>tfw he spreads his mind around the Ark to personally bully every incarnation of N2 personally for the rest of eternity

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>>174422006
B-but Popola is dead ;_;

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Here's some thematically related Youtube shorts about how the world gets blown up but the machines don't seem to notice.

Fortress - TURN ON THE SUBTITLES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKmZnIHzldk

And its sequel- Last day of War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiuVInSnTZs

These are VERY GOOD and come HIGHLY RECOMMENDED by ME, SOME GUY YOU DON'T KNOW FROM THE INTERNET

>>174423350
Couldn't there be more Popola/Devola models still out there? There were many created, and only two pairs are confirmed dead

>>174421837
9S is the most creative android. He will probably drag 2B on all sorts of cute romantic dates.

I want to fight Raiden in the colosseum.

>>174423982

I want to fight Bayonetta in the colosseum.

The Colosseum is actually an ancient arena of the Umbra Witches

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All S-models are fucked up.
https://twitter.com/ogawa_91/status/854691191564058624

>>174424547
>rig an S-model together from wreckage and leftover scrap with your shit tier mechanical knowledge
>expect your frankensteined piece of madness to be in any way sane
>get proven wrong
>oh boy surely all S models are nuts

>>174420889
The real humanity that was hidden before the WSC went global comes out from a space station that was in lagrange point 5

>>174424547
It's interesting that they create S models mostly for a loner job they seem to hate.
It's quite easy to go bonkers when you can actually think about many things with no one around to listen to them.
9S had 2B at the very least, and while she was distancing herself from him, she also provided him some certainty he really needed to not feel the existential dread.

>>174424547
is this comic or any of what he's saying canon, though? isn't it just manga fanfic

I want to cum in 9S while he cums in 2B!

>>174423350
CUTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Kaine 9S is cute! CUTE!

>>174426060
It's a manga fanfic.

>>174426405
CUTE!!!!!! I wish he can wear her outfit.

>>174426072
You better cum round with those ideas or 9S will have another thing cuming for you.

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>>174426405

>>174426405
>>174426595
DONT do that to 9S! he is a boy, not a girl >:C

>>174426990
ill make him my girl, hell get the D!

>>174427035
Probably he will go nuclear and cut your dick off if you try to do something.

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>>174426990
What? You think 2B won't dress him up in girly clothes?

>>174427826
I think 2B would be too busy riding his purple python until it actually turns purple to bother with dressing him up.

>>174403246
>>174403246
you have not seen many plays my friend

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Did someone say StagePlay!?!? A4 is best girl.

>>174427826
Why would she do that? I dont think she is interested in little girls....

>>174427362
but he'll like, thus will not fight it, when he see the majestous D, he will BEND!

>>174428110
she's actually cute

why nipponeses have fetish with manly woman-womanly man couple? it's always busty tall woman and small man.

>>174428110
she looks retardade

>>174428372
9S is the manly one though. He pulls absolutely crazy stunts regularly.
And they are the same height without footwear.

http://drakengard.wikia.com/wiki/Nero

How many years passed between DoD3 and DoD1? I thought it was a huge time skip as One is an ancestor of Manah but in that novel One even meets Caim and Furiae.

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I like that Automata art the most that makes the two main characters so monochrome except for one or two colors that they end up looking like Black Rock Shooter fanart.

There is a distinct lack of art portraying toobie's thighs and ass in battle armor

>>174428110
Is there anywhere to see this play with subtitles? Also... is it actually relevant to anything or is it okay if I don't see it anyway?

>>174428686
If you want to know more about A2 you can find the play and script in the OP

>>174428668
I know, right? God, 2B in the battle armor without the mask on was so good.
I love the dress too, but it was a cool change, and kind of helped set the tone a bit for part C.

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>>174428686
>Is there anywhere to see this play with subtitles?
Nope.
>Also... is it actually relevant to anything or is it okay if I don't see it anyway?
It's A2' backstory. She was a very emotional scared crybaby. She was shit at fighting until her waifu, A4 died.

>>174424547
not canon tho

>>174428686
the play is actually really bad and pretty cringy. it's worth reading a translation or summary for story reasons, but it's really not worth seeking out a subtitled version of the play itself

I wonder if Resistance forces in certain locations would eventually be influenced by the local human culture of those areas through discovery of remnants of human civilisation?

>>174428901
>It's A2' backstory. She was a very emotional scared crybaby
Doesn't this technically mean 2B was the same?

>>174428918
>it's worth reading a translation
But it's worth it seeing their reactions and personalities. You can't get that from reading Rekka's translation.

>>174429024
Yeah.

>>174428604
He is manly, more than his appearance makes him look, and that is was made me fell in love with him, when I played the game he was completely different of how I thought he would be (pussy depressed crybaby dependant of 2B).Seeing him trying to protect her over and over again made me fall in love

>>174429024
>Doesn't this technically mean 2B was the same?

No. The whole point of the 2B model was to be an improved version of the A2 model. She was likely far more capable out of the gate than A2 was.

>>174429637
>The whole point of the 2B model was to be an improved version of the A2 model
We only know that they were based on A2. And removal of B-mode is actually a huge nerf.

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>>174422006
I mean tired like...bored of it, there is no much to do after ending E aside from helping the resistance, they can fuck every night...eventually that would be boring.

>>174429016

>Resistance fighters in russia find hardbass

>Suddenly they all start wearing tracksuits and drinking pure potato vodka

>>174430079
If devola/popola can get drunk, I am sure as hell that russian resistance fighthers are drinking vodka like water all day.

>>174429701
Read the intel. It certainly seems like a nerf to me too, but it was considered an improvement as b-mode was considered "unstable". The intel directly states that 2B was supposed to be an updated A2, with the removal of b-mode and enhanced long-range combat ability listed as the improvements. I know that in-game they have the exact same combat prowess, but story-wise A2 wasn't designed to be compatible with pods and so was less efficient at longer ranges.

I'm not saying that 2B is a better A2 (except in the sense that imo she's a more interesting character).

But she was considered to be a better A2 by YoRHa command.

I've only played the game once and don't remember all the details perfectly, but I recall something about them saying they gave the androids emotions despite recognizing that it causes more inefficiency. I don't get it, why would they include something if it has no operational benefit, did they explain somewhere and I missed it?

>>174421338
Isn't that only a problem for the gestalt/replicant system? The androids have the technology to grow replicants in something like a test tube, but they wouldn't live now without their corresponding Gestalt. The replicants were all copies of people that used to exist with gestalts being their original souls. What is stopping them from making a completely new baby from genetic data instead of trying to revive an existing soul? Android command must have some future plan for the genetic data they saved. It could just be beyond their current technology level as cloning usually requires an existing mother or egg cells.

>>174430079
>russian machine lifeforms are all named after famous russian writers and philosophers
>Goliath-class Pushkin
>Dostoevsky getting all the robot pussy
>Lenin kisckstarts his own commie settlement like Pascal

>>174430302
It makes enough sense to me that while B-mode might be better for an individual android, it would be more of a liability for the actual organization as a whole.

>>174430396
>>174430396
I don't think that they "gave" them emotions directly except in the sense that any sort of AI, even the inferior-but-not-really AI of the yorha, develops emotions.

Also it might cause inefficiency in some places, but help in others. Yes emotions could cause missions to get sloppy where a lack thereof would not, but without emotions they would not have as much of a desire to protect their fellow units or the bunker, and they would not have their love of humanity. They could have loyalty to humanity without emotions, but not love for it. I think I remember seeing something about how the combat data they use to build better yorha units is also emotional, not only combat skills but also the emotions felt in the heat of combat. also jackass mentions that while fighting the units feel something similar to love, which presumably makes them better combatants and more desirous of fighting, and that also wouldn't be possible with no emotions

>>174430565
>what is stopping them from making a completely new baby from genetic data
this is a question that has to get answered a lot so let's try and remember it this time boys

they have the human genome
they do NOT have human DNA

any further questions you have on the "but why can't they make a clone" subject should be answerable by looking up the differences between DNA itself and a genome

>>174430565
Yeah but maybe a cloned baby wouldn't have a soul? Clearly they need a human soul to consider something human or they'd just regard themselves as the new humans. imo they should all be worshipping Emil as the last human.

>>174430302
It's interesting that A2 was using B-mode for 4 years now without any major drawbacks aside from fuel filter.
Feels like it was a deliberate nerf because A2 also ended up being way too fucking strong to a point she wrecked entire squads of E models sent after her so YoRHa higher-ups decided that giving too much power to individual unit may be indeed unstable if unit becomes a deserter.

>>174430714
Yeah; when you go into b-mode it causes an explosion in an area around you just like self-destruct. That alone seems like a hell of a liability; if you're self-destructing it basically means all is lost and this is a last ditch attempt, but b-mode can be used more safely and regularly, so that start-up explosion alone I can see causing lots of trouble.

>>174430396
Androids created by humans were designed without emotions. Their AI developed emotions over time, mostly because of jealously at seeing replicants gain their own independent will and feelings.

Scene 20 in the YoRHa play kind of explains why the androids are given set personalities, memories, and emotions too:
http://nier2.com/blog/yorha-stage-play/

>>174430754
I mean, I agree with everything you're saying but I just don't recall coming across anything in the game that said their emotions were anything but a liability. But I missed a lot of the documents so was just wondering if there was something I didn't see about it..

>>174430931
They don't know about or understand what Emil is. Their first thought when they see him is to kill him.
Maybe 2B/9S knows depending on when you finish his quest and he explains his story to you, but they probably didn't think too hard about it.
Also, Is Emil really human anyway? He is an immortal magical bio-weapon.

>>174430754
Grimoire Nier also says this:
> As a result, since the "Replicants" possess no reproductive abilities and need to copy the Gestalt's data to regenerate their bodies, they will die out within this generation.
So if they have data on both Gestalt genetic data and replicant structure data maybe they can figure out how a Gestalt repairs a replicant to create a proper human.

>>174431116
Weren't Devola and Popula super scared and excited when they were starting on the Gestalt project?

>>174429219
jesus christ,
FUCKIN GAAY!

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>>174431513
Accept it anon. 9S is the true husbando.

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>>174429219
That moment when he suddenly jumps on Eve and they slam each other with bigass scrap fists was legit 100% hype if i ever saw it.