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Kill yourself meta Edition

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Suicided: >>174221354
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>>174241814
Positive winrates with Vampy!
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Post elf
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>>174241895
Get to master with Vampy soon!
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Vampy is a shit waifu
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Next thread should be a master of canopies edition
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>>174241948
The longest grind is usually AA0-Master though.
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Luna trying to make new friends.
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>>174241939
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>There are people who still have petty loyalties towards certain crafts
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>>174241939
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>>174241981
Fight me!
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Can we agree that ramp dragon mirror is the most skill intensive match up in the game?
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>>174241981
2hu sux
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>>174242273
No, Frog mirror is
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>>174242026
Alright bro, give Canopies dicklist.
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>>174242273
>play removal
>heal out of lethal range
>summon big follower
>repeat
hurr durf so hard
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>>174242349
>Dragon meta
>Sugita is nowhere to be seen
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>>174241981
>2hu in 2017
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>>174242347
I haven't played frog myself but how is that matchup anything but a face race?
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>>174241895
is there any album out there where i can read all the shadowverse stuff featured in granblue
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>>174241981
Dead series
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>>174242384
>being this mad
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>>174242480
No
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>You thought 2pp 1/3 was bad?
>How about fucking 2pp 1/4 ward!
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>>174242690

Just undying resentment bro.
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>>174242690
I'm tired of blood getting all these fucking overstatted followers
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HEAVEN REBUKES YOU
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>>174242753
Blood's followers stat line is completely normal!
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>>174242765
MOOOOOM!
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>>174242753
Yurius is pretty bullshit I admit that but the rest have their drawbacks for their stats
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>>174242920
ur mom rebukes u
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>>174242765
kys dubcuck
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How pathetic the luna player must feel to lose to a Mastema of all things?
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>>174242392
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>>174243221
Not quite as pathetic as someone who runs to /svg/ to mompost, at least
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>>174243340
>Sugita
>Having hair
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Need a concede please.
32790.
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I BELIEVE
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>>174243432
Thank you vampy-chan.
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>>174243401
No bully please.
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>>174243221
Mastema is the strongest
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>>174242273
Sure thing
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I developed an addiction to Daria raping my ass and now that she's gone, I'm experiencing huge withdrawls. I just want to feel her stiff ladycock penetrate me one more time...
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There are no cancercrafts, there's just cards that only scum would use.

Sahaquiel, Prince of Darkness, DShift, things like that
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>>174242765
So what can be done against Aegis?
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>Play KYS Blood
>Dragon player kills himself first
????
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>>174244583
Kill Haven before t9
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>>174244583
Just go through all their pre-turn 9 wards, healing and removal bro
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>>174244558
Same desu senpai
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>>174244575
Only scum would use Grimnir. If everyone uses Grimnir, does that make everyone scum?
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>>174244575
There's literally nothing wrong with Santa.
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I want to ejaculate inside the cute vampire.
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So this, is the power of Mastema
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>tech satan in my deck
>auto win against all dragon deck
nice t1 deck
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>>174244812
Yes.
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>14tickets used on Take Two
>Always lose against dragon
>They always have an Ouroboros

NERF DRAGON RIGHT NOW FUCK THIS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>174244834
That rules out Vampy, then.
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Nerf Sybil
Nerf Rahab
Nerf Zell
Nerf Catacombs
Nerf Eachtar
Nerf Aegis
Nerf Pepe
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>>174244864
>tales from D rank
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>>174244575
you dumb as fuck
go fucking back you idiot
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>>174244871
play haven m8 is hard to get 5-0 but you always win against dragon and shadow
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>>174244848
I have an aggro deck with 1 mastema in it. Is it like that or a deck built around mastema?
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>>174244575
Satan looks balanced compared to shit like storming Bahamuts.

He's just a big old 10pp do nothing and takes a couple of draws to really finish you off with apocalypse deck unless you get lucky and draw astaroth's reckoning first.
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>>174244834
You can cum inside Remilia
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>>174244993
This is my deck, it feels more midrange
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>that reddit post >>174244575
>that fucking responses >>174245024 >>174244812
i guess it's reddit spacing time again?
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nice "mid-rangeverse" you guys have here
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>>174243221

I love Mestema cause it forces the opponent to get rid of it and it only costs 5pp, plus if they don't get rid of it, you can go face. Not to mention it is 6/6 which puts it above reach of anything that can deal up to 5defense points of damage.

When I play mestema, I play it as a red herring, to try and whittle away at their removal for when I play the things that need to stay on the board.
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>>174245180
is soul domiantor realy useful? she is just a brick in my hand most of times
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>>174245180
>Mastema as a win condition
fucking really?
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Only getting all my fairy cards in hand and no followers or spells to combo wombo.

There isn't a sadder concede
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>>174244558
I was so happy when I saw this the other day. Reminds me of a better meta. Sadly shadow is so OP I came back and won this
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SV have any cocksleeve?
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>>174245678
If only you had a strong low cost follower to combo with...
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94590

a non-concede match, please!

6/20
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Spellboost is shit
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>>174244992

Nah, it's bullshit. I hate playing dragon in Take Two and the only class I don't play besides that is Elf cause too many of the cards rely on having a bulky hand or playing 0pp fairies.

Yet dragon always wins cause games always go late, and they have too many cards with crazy effects like bane, storm, damage, healing, extra summons, extra with no skill or effort required other than to put the card down. Take Two is a clear indicator of the power creep this fucking card game is dipping into and it started with Dragon.

It's fucking ridiculous that 14 Take Two games, five matches a ticket, and NO victories against dragon. EVERYONE in Take Two picks dragon cause they know how bullshit it is.
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>>174245223

Midrange is one true way to play these kinds of games. It actually is. It appeals to mobile gaming for having the option to end games in a timely manner and it's still a step above mindless smorcing.
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>>174245325
She is still a storm follower, so she is definitely not useless, granted the game ends most of the time before I even reach turn 7, but if it lasts that long then she is nice to have, especially against dragons who try to struggle with their heals and wards

>>174245460
It works better than you think, they cannot remove it most of the time without sacrificing their entire board and wasting an evolve, and then you can just pop down another one the following turn.
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>>174243221
Why are lunas so pathetic? Bullying them feels so good
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>>174245923
>>174245940
>reddit spacing
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>>174246037
the stupidshit posters time is on breh
nothing we can do
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>>174246037

Le what's wrong?

Does my le spacing trigger you?

MFW I trigger 4chancuck
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This is a good deck I promise.
Just play it. This even works in masters.
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Reddit discord is actually much better place to discuss the game.
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>>174246037

Line breaking when you're talking about certain points isn't reddit spacing. You SHOULD space when you're changing topics or view points. Call it reddit spacing when I only type a few words with spacing in between them. Not to mention, that double spacing is mandatory in any reputable college paper.

I hate reddit too but you're just jumping the gun.
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>>174246272
Fuck off cuck
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>>174246306
>reddit spacing again
You have to go back
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>>174246272

>wanting to discuss the game
>not just posting lewds.
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>>174245180
Looks pretty solid, gonna give it a go.
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whats wrong with going to reddit?
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>tfw Goblin Mage Roach still works

It's bittersweet. I'm sad Forest is stuck with this deck, but in a way, I'm glad for how reliable it'll always be.

I just wish I could crack the code of how to make a swarm weenie Forest deck. I just want Cynthia to be top tier. I want to always hear her voice telling me how much we shine.
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>>174245325
If you brick too much try cutting one Imp and one Dom for two three drops of your choice.
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>>174245325
There is no better feeling than trading bats into things with her on board and making her grow.
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>>174246459
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why does the only meaningful discussion this general has occur only when amerifats are asleep? no one fucking cares about spacing please stop this autism
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>>174246459
>>174246621

>oh noooooooo he pressed enter
>this is going to cause the entire thread to turn into a shitstorm
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>>174245780
I wish she would cum on my back :3
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>>174246037
>>174246459
>>174246621
>So autistic you're literally bothered by blank emptiness between words

Not surprised you're a Trumpfag on top of all that.
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>>174246262
2slow4me
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>>174246694
>>174246705
>complaining about reddit spacing rustles jimmies
>falls for obvious bait

Don't pretend you aren't the problem.
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>>174246621
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Please concede:

51835
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>>174246694
Because Americans are literally subhuman rednecks
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>>174246754
the quality of those posts are literally below trash
thats why we are bothered
go fucking back
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i want to kill myself
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>>174246775
Not everyone wants to kys
Some of us want to live with our waifu
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>51% winrate craft
>multiple viable dragonslayer decks exist
>people still complain about dragon
Are you all so poor that you can't try out dragon and instead have to complain?
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>>174246694
Canada.
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>>174246592
There's too much board wipe for that build to ever work again. Cybele helps survive things like Salamander and Foul Tempest; but if your opponent just focuses on trading and keeping your board down you really have no way to win except Roach. Which is why everyone just plays builds that focus on Roach.

Also Turn 6 bahamut is a thing now.
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>>174246863
Thanks Sam.
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>>174246694
>amerifats are asleep
Jokes on you, amerifats never sleep.
t. amerifat
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>>174246694
The general has always been like this. I generally just leave once the clock hits 1PM EST and don't return until around 11PM.
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So what will this thing do to Arisa in her later chapters?
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>>174245793
Sukuna's bad. I don't understand her role. Why would you want to blow ressources AND an evolve on her? I get that it's good value but there's much better if you're going to act cute and spend your roach dollars on other stuff.
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>>174246876
>g-g-go back
Haven't you worked out by now that autistically repeating things doesn't work?
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>>174247043

meme on her with jank combo.
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>>174246908
>Ah
>ha
>ha
>ha
>stayin' alive
>stayin' alive
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>>174246912
Dragon only has 51% winrate because shadow keeps it in check, once shadow is nerfed and dragon is untouched, it will soar above 60% easily.
Besides dragon is incredibly oppressive right now and prevents any kind of meme or fun decks from existing, for that reason I will continue to loathe it as long as it exists in its present form.
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Okay, guys going to open 10 ToG packs. Wish me luck.
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>>174247043
That's not how a bearskull looks.
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>>174247119
that's exactly how it works with autistic shitters like you
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>>174246495
When will there be a doujin with Luna and Cerberus
I NEED it
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>>174246912
How can one man be this stupid?
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>>174246908
Your deck honestly doesn't look too bad, I'd take out 1 Night Horde and 2 DoDs for 3 Yurius though. He's my favorite card in the entire game.
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need a concede

47681
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Why the long face, anon?
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>>174247216
>multiple dragonslayer decks exist that have a miserable winrate against midrange shadow.
People don't run those decks because you instantlose against the most popular craft on ladder. Why would dragons winrate increase after shadow gets nerfed? The opposite will happen.
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>>174247438
You could do that if you like him that much.
He's really good vs shadow, at least.
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>>174247343
Well I'm still here, better try again faggot.
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>>174247272
Oh look, it's that oldman no one loves. Another time for eacthar-kun, I suppose.
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>>174247657
>no one loves
That's not true.
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>>174247216
The opposite is true. No other aggro/mid-range decks (or really any deck) can compete with Shadow right now. Shadow gets nerfs and you'll see a return of mid-sword, aggro/mid blood, and other fast decks that will tear Dragon up.

That said, Zell and Grimnir were still mistakes that should be nerfed as well.
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>>174245180

I think my Vampi deck is more mid range. I could trim it down and accelerate it, but I really love playing to the vampire theme.
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>>174247768
i dont even understand how grimnir was even greenlit
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>>174247657
I still understand why they'd make Zeus so incredibly boring, then give Grimnir that insane enhance and all those special interaction quotes.
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why they don't nerf yurius?
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>>174247752
But Grimnir loves Odin not Zeus
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>>174247494
still need that concede
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>>174246908
God, Mastema is beautiful
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>>174247941
*crack*
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>>174247981
I wish Mastema wasn't blood. She's a cool card but fuck that class.
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Do I need to find jp voices for the exact version for it to work on android? We're at 1.5.1 but I can only find JP voices for 1.5 and they don't seem to be working.
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>>174248131
>hating the unique patrician craft
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>bringing your ramp dragon deck to unranked
why do they do this
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>>174247941
Good taste anon

Someday she'll be a top-tier control card I swear
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>>174247494
>>174247950
thanks
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>>174247903
Zeus is shit
shit

Everyone who tried to devil's advocate for him needs to realize some things are just indefensible.
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Is dragon slayer price safe to liquefy or is it viable in discard dragon.
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I'm so tired of shadow and dragon in t2 and ranked
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>>174247941
i cant seem to find this version anywhere
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>>174248265
If you still want to believe disco will be a viable build some day, keep it. Otherwise it's the worse gold in the set next to Zoe.
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>>174248265
if soul dealer is t1 everything can be good anon
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Is anyone still having fun with this game? I really feel like quitting now, the only thing stopping me is I've invested so much time grinding out daillies and getting a huge collection.
Fucking Hearthstone looks like it's more fun than SV right now
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>Had a 7 games win streak
>Get a mission "Win 6 Ranked matches"
>8 losses in a row

I-I love S-shadowverse
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>Turn 10
>Have the enemy in check mate with 3 followers and their Hp at 6
>They play a grimnir
>Kill all my followers and do 4Hp face damage
>Okay.
>Put another 2 followers down, enough to check mate them again
>They play another grimnir
>Okay.
>Put another two followers down, enough to check mate them
>They play a zeus and hit my face, winning

I guess I was out skilled? How could I counter such rampant faggotry?
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>opponent has 4/2 lion spirit + guardian sun
>want to remove its ward to hit face...
>...
>...
>urd it
>he it gets its ward back
>and heals
fuck
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>>174248401
No. Cant even meme in masters because of this shadow and dragon cancer.
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>>174248542
Did you even try to read what guardian sun does?
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>3 blog-posts in a row
Christ
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>>174248542
if amulets followers get ward why an urded not?
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>>174248294
It's the original art from the JP version of Rage of Bahamut, but even in the JP client it got censored to her current look in SV. The old Rage card art is conspicuously absent from any of the places I usually get my stuff from, but that particular picture is still floating around if you look up the artist (mel/a)
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>>174248676
Yes. I guess that wasn't very smart of me. I was fairly ahead so I took the risk and still won.
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>>174248801
Butthugs are the best.
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>>174248707
>NOOOOOO! Stop talking about the game!

That's how gay you sound.
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stop playing shadow and dragon in unranked aaaaaaa
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>>174248243
Zeus actually sees play in dragon ramp.
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>>174248950
Stop playing Shadow and Dragon in general
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>>174248901
No one cares that that one guy can't garner enough brainpower to play the game let alone read 2 sentences.
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>>174248401
Welcome to the sunken cost fallacy. But don't worry, it will pass provided you endure.
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>>174249036
Why are you so upset anon? Have a drink.
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>>174247903
Weirder yet is that they really pushed the theme that lightning > all and banishes things (Odin, now Lightning blast)

They could've done something like
>Storm
>Ward
>Bane
>Whenever this follower were to destroy a follower, banish it instead.
Flavourful and much stronger.

Or just give him first strike, but then he'd be broken and they'd have to remove bane.
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>>174249087
Will it really pass? Considering the past two expansions and the fact that the cards aren't going away anytime soon I really feel like this game is just gonna get shittier and shittier.
It's a shame too, it had such promise in the first set, and even with the Haven cancer I think DE was a solid expansion overall. But the devs have just powercreeped so hard now and enforced the dumb soft cap to extremes to the point where the game is just not fun to play at all anymore.
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>>174248892
I'd hug her butt
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>>174248801
Mel/a a best. Claymore Maid when? That Big boost to man atk
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>>174248432
>Have someone in checkmate
>They didn't lose
Then it wasn't a checkmate was it numbnuts?
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>>174248401
>Fucking Hearthstone looks like it's more fun than SV right now
Trust me, I tried going back. It's not. You either lose to random cards or endless 5/5 with charge on turn 4.
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>>174249274
just by saying that haven was Cancer in DE you should review your problems
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>>174249274
It will pass because as the game grows older developers try new things and no matter how much you hate X or Y in the past or present, loving Z often makes it worth the trouble.
A good example is the new found love for blood some people discovered with ToG, even with a very dreadful meta that many despise you still see the dudes that like the feeling of living on the edge having a blast.

Things are bound to change and you can only hope you like the next thing better than the current.
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does Aegis ignore test of strength wtf
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>>174244640
Kek
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>>174249590
How new are you?
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>>174249449
Like it or not haven was 50% of your matches. Shitters complain about Elana but the real cancer was Storm Haven. There were more powerful decks for sure (midrange sword, tempo forest, elana/seraph before everyone teched against it), but fucking god to this day I hate seeing that stupid eagle.
But I think DE was a good expansion because it added a lot of new deck archetypes and cool cards but didn't completely kill the old ones. Overall the power level was fairly solid and the top tier was the biggest its ever been, and tier 2 decks were still perfectly viable.
Meanwhile RoB and TotG have had the smallest amount of tier 1 decks and those decks have also been insanely oppressive.
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>>174249848
you know that is nearly impossible to have more than 3 tier 1 decks in any card game rgiht?
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why is there no i want to die emote?
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>>174249931
I don't buy that for a second.
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>>174241814
Is it still possible to get the Daria sleeve or was it a one time promotion?
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>>174249397
Claymore Maid and her boss as a duo card like Anne/Grea or Luminous Mage/Knight when? We haven't seen a new mel/a card added in any of the expansions so far, here's to hoping we get lucky next time around
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>>174250073
is impossible but now we have israfil sleeves
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>>174246908
I want Mastema to test muh dick
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>>174250141
Israfil sleeves ? how ? the best you can get now is Little Soul Squasher sleeves at 12k points
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Is my no saha storm ramp considered cancer or I'm just too poor to be cancer tier?
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Come up with a card that has Cygames' trademark of balanced gameplay.
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>>174248401
I got bored then I remembered I pledged Faeria and since that game is out Im playing that as I have full collection. Im just doing dailies and look for new memes here.
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>>174250335
If you are a nip and willing to shell lots of shekels you can get Isra sleeves.
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>>174250335
Same way you got daria sleeps. Spend on google play, it was 200 or 500 USD.
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>>174250136
Would be nice yeah.
>>174250335
Money sleeves. Also wish they made the Masters ranking reward animated Israfil instead of Zeus.
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What the hell do I do as forestcraft when mom pulls out her Aegis card?
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>>174250335
>how ?
What do you think
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>>174250367
6pp
0/7
Ward
Attack is equal to the enemy follower's attack at the time of hitting
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>>174250367
forest
give storm to allied ally after playing 2 cards
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>>174250591
You... double silver bolt them obviously
>Unironically complaining about a class you counter
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>tfw you slam a Dragon's ass with Roaches

Nice "nerf" Crygames
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>>174250367
5pp 3/3 storm/bane
Last Words: Add a Grimnir to your hand and change its cost to 0
Enhance(9): Deal 3 damage to all enemies
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Test this.
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>>174250591
you already lost, unless you have one of those cards that make a follower's attack 1
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>>174250770
Magic has so many hilarious cards. I love that snail that has super haste and can attack the turn before it is played and flies all over the card.
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>>174250961
The greybordered cards can get pretty wonderful yeah.
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>>174250748
>tfw double 0 cost bolting and grimnir a 19 hp saha ramp

I fucking cummed hard that day
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>2 evolves left
>no death breaths
>no hectors
This is not even my final form.
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>>174251049
>The penis mightyer than sord
Holy kek
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>>174250136
Muh heart if true~
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Please concede
36421
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>>174251267
>Look mom I won a good match-up playing a cancer deck!
>>
Who said shadow beats dragon?
>turn 6 israfils your entire board
Godlike
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>test of strenght was going to expire next turn
>dragonbab can still win because he has ward
>concedes
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>>174251049
Magic really has cards where the effect is it can't be effected by cards with at least 4 lines of text?
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>>174251381
Thanks
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>>174250961
What a fucking gem
Didn't it actually see play or was theoretically good?
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>>174251513
It's a joke card from a joke set, but yes
>>174251569
See above; it never saw play since it was never legal anywhere outside of kitchen table or un-drafts
>>
HEAVEN REBUKES YOU
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>Randomly went check shadowlog
>PtP Forest has lower winrate than rogue's creed Sword nowadays
RIP the only genuine thinking man's deck this game has ever seen.
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>>174251386
I am legit oldfag of shadowcraft since rob so i deserve to play good shadow decks.
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Hmmm that Mastema deck is doing something. Usually ends by turn 6
>>174245180
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Why don't more rune decks run winter's caprice this card is so much fun
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>>174251765
>Oldfag
>Since RoB
Oh fuck off, you don't deserve anything
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>>174250001
Is possible to have 3 champions in any sport? No, because we aare having duels the only way to balance cg is havibg more techs and natural counters
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>>174251513
The legit cards can be even more ridicolous.
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>being roped by a Shadownigger on Ranked since turn 1
Why? He is clearly on the advantage match up wise. He isn't even playing any cards, just roping.
>>
>put wrath drake in my ramp dragon
>100% winrate against shadow

shadowbabs???
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>>174251978
What the fuck are you even talking about? How does this relate to some retard who said it's nearly impossible for CCGs to have tier 1s with more than 3 decks?
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Is Midrange Sword any good this xpac? Can someone give me a decent deck to start laddering with, if it is?
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>>174252116
Take RoB's Albert Sword and add 2-3 Luminous Mage.
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>>174251703
How is it the thinking man's deck when all you do is kill your minions and discard your hand
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>>174252050
If he's not playing cards and roping chances are he's afk. This is pretty basic stuff anon
>>174252116
Midrange Sword just gets deleted by Dragon. It's okay otherwise, but you're going to lose a lot because half the ladder is Dragon.
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>>174252116
literally take the old deck and add some luminous mage

it's boring as fuck and not that good
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>>174251965
Aggro shadow was just an average t2 deck during rob, i deserve every win in tog.
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>>174252219
>If he's not playing cards and roping chances are he's afk. This is pretty basic stuff anon
Not him, but turns are skipped faster when people go AFK.
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>>174252219
>>174252245
That's sad. Sword is all I really have legendarily for. I have three of that one runecraft deck that was good last xpac, does anything with that still work? The little witch, idr her name.
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>>174251698
what are the hypest card entrance quotes?
>mfw SKY KNIGHTS, PREPARE FOR BATTLE.
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>>174252350
Golly it's chilly here
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>visiting /svg/ just to collect Eris art anons post
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>>174252350
ON MY BLADE

VICTORY AND PROSPERITY ARE YOURS
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>>174251965
You're a bloody idiot, I hope you know that pal.
>>
90312

a non-concede match, please

6/20
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>>174251413
Just Prince and Eachtar bro
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>>174252350
>>174252391
kys dubcuck
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>>174252350
LEAVE IT TO MEEEEE!
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>>174252465
What, because some entitled newfag thinks he's an oldfag for playing since the second latest expansion?
If you weren't here during the /mbgg/ days you're not an oldfag, plain and simple. Not only that, but Shadow is pure fucking cancer beyond all measure right now; even if he had been palying since standard, it still doesn't matter. Fuck Shadow.
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>>174252350
THIS RAGE EMPOWERS ME!

... well it used to be. I can't even remember her voice anymore.

SUCH COWARDLY CREATUERS
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>>174252738
Because you can't get the most base level of sarcasm.
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>>174252391
>I feel slutty
what did he mean by this?
>>
Post tier lists.
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>>174246694
t. redditor
also
>unironically using spongebob reaction images
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>>174252350
Beautiful, powerful, and cute to boot!
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>>174247216
>it's ok when shadow does it
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>>174252859
No, do you research.
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>>174252491
thanks!
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>>174252350
>The battlefield awaits
>ONWARD HOE !
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>>174252794
>I was just pretending to be retarded
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>Am I cute, or am I cute? Tee-hee-hee! If you don't like me when I'm fun-size, then I'll turn myself big!

>Hah, what do you think now? This is what happens when I bust out my gargantuan tits. I won't stay this way long, but I bet I'll be more useful than before!
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>>174252350
A new world is our desire!

>tfw you turn the tables with 3 more evos and snowball to victory
>tfw she's out of the meta forever
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>>174252859
Tier 1:
>Dragon
>Shadow
Tier 2:
>Aegis
>Wolfbolt
Everything Else:
>Invalidated by the top tier
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>>174253107
accurate
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>>174252989
I'm not the lad you were talking with, but if even after his follow-up reply to you (that I made sure to include in the picture) you still think it was serious and not sarcasm, calling your a bloody idiot may have been too kind.
>>
kys dubcucks
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>>174252738
>/mbgg/
>>
What' sa good deck to play to sort of learn the game and ladder with?
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>>174253284
Why don't you go slurp cocks for your foreign masters some more, instead of projecting your cuckiness onto us.
>>
>>174253303
Another game. SV is trash now
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>>174252350
>ROOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
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>>174253017
I want to drink milk from those udders
>>
>>174253303
Any Aggro deck.
>>
>>174253303
Almost every deck plays differently so just play the best one you have.
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>>174253019
Kill yourself, redditor
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try to attack me down now bitch
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>>174253303
Wandering frog
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>>174253019

She's still in greedy storm ramp lists. Gotta be able to feed Zell those evos.
>>
>>174253303
The best deck right now is Dragoncraft. It might be expensive to build if you're new, but you can still pull it off if you were lucky and pulled a lot of legendaries with your free packs + beat all the elite npc's ( total 2400 gold bounty ) and buy more extra packs with it.
>>
>>174253453
What's wrong?


Did something upset you?


Don't worry life will get better some day :)
>>
>>174253293
Before /svg/ existed, for the majority of standard, we chilled out in /mbgg/, the mobage general. Eventually we split off to make our own thread, but it was pretty dead at first.
I don't know how many people are still left from then.
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>Ancient Elf is cheat, unfair, op, ridiculous.

Explains to me how forest has better winrates going second.
>>
Discuss the best Storm Ramp dicks.

Also, has been Genesis powercreeped by Zell+Saha?
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>>174253017
>>174253019
>>174252753
>>174252491
>reddit spacing
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>>174253491
>drop Orthrus.
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>>174253453
>>174253284
A little cuk won't stop me!
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>>174253569
>The best deck right now is Dragoncraft.
Not even close. Midrange Shadow is the best by far, sporting a 60% winrate.
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>>174253583
Reddit spacing
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>>174253573
It wasn't even the spacing that sold you out, but the reddit filename
Neck yourself, Outlander Scum
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>>174252738
>What, because some entitled newfag thinks he's an oldfag for playing since the second latest expansion?
I was playing shadow before it had ridiculous winrates, that's what matters.
>If you weren't here before me you're not an oldfag
Sigh, that's just wrong.
>Not only that, but Shadow is pure fucking cancer beyond all measure right now; even if he had been palying since standard, it still doesn't matter. Fuck Shadow.
Now you've shown your true self, at this point i can just discard your opinion, it's just pure hate, nothing else.
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>>174253491
nevermind he had urd lol

who the fuck packs urd fuck you frinnir
>>
>>174253583
You should go back.
>>
>>174253697
Why can't you ever stop derailing every single thread, stop replying to fucking people actually talking about the game. Are you this slow in the head?
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>>174253706
Maybe you should find another safe space, seems like you've been cucked again.
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>>174253491
Sure. Meet my waifu.

or corpse or necroassasin
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>>174253763

Orthus+evo would've killed too.
>>
We should post cute lolis to scare away the reddit
>>
These threads have really gone to shit.
Is this because the meta is the worst its ever been? A pretty impressive feat considering how bad both pre-nerf and post-nerf RoB was.
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>>174253763
>who the fuck runs this card that has synergy with all of the deck
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>>174253763
>frinnir

Implying Urd hadn't already had a long lost lasting relationship with shadow.
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>>174252350
God is on our side!
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>>174252116
>>174252313
Yes it's great. Thanks to luminous mage there is almost always a evo at turn 9 for Albert to use. Dont listen to dragoncucks saying it's bad, throw in x3 baka and x2 fang to rape dragon with, they are a favorable matchup.
>>
>>174253107
KYS Blood won tournaments and slays dragons.
>>
>>174253857
It is you who should go back to his safe place, you insignificant cucklord.

>>174253960
Post nerf RoB was pretty good imo
>>
>>174253880
Orthrus is better dogwife than Cerb.
>>
Fucking midrange shadow is unbeatable. They have answers to EVERYTHING.
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>>174254107
Not everything
>>
74497
Concede would be nice.
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>>174254091
>Post ner RoB
>Daria still 50% of your matches
>Other 50% was aggro sword
Nah
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>>174253587
SahaZell is combo. Genny is straight forward face.
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>>174254091
Is that the best comeback you've got?

I was expecting more. How about some originality?
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>>174254196
You don't have enough Lighting Blasts in stock, King of Dragons
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>Powerplay from turn 1
>>
What's up with all the random Nips naming themselves with a single capital English letter?
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>>174253582
>forgetting bloodfriend
You can do better, /mbgg/bro
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>>174254308
There is no need for originality, only for you to fuck off
>>174254292
That wasn't the case though at all, every craft was played and everyone of them had some viable decks.
Ramp Dragon was one of the most played crafts even before the expansion, win rates aside.
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>>174251632
I know it wasn't legal.

I meant wasn't it technically good if it were legal?
>>
Is the only way to actually farm gold/cards to spend all on take two?
>>
>>174254309
Just storm and hit face bro
>>
>>174254569
no that's the worst way of farm cards because T2 is trash, takes a lot of time an gives you only standart
>>
Themis should be neutral card.
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>The battle of memes.
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>>174254420
Lorisa leader when?
>>
>>174254490
Daria was still all over the ladder.

Did you even play back then?
>>
>>174254667
Then what? After you finish dailies there's no way to get more gold other than ranked rewards
>>
>>174254567
It would probably be too good.
Dump 4 of em and you have 12 free damage.
>>
guys i accidentally hit my cat over the head with a spinner toy...
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>>174254319
Luminous Lewds stronk.
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>>174254490
>There is no need for originality, only for you to fuck off
Sorry anon but 4chan isn't the place for your censorship. That anon gets to stay. If you don't like it, you're welcome to leave of your own free will.
>>
>>174254747
Did you?
Daria was barely present in tryhard land aka AA3 after the nerf.
It was nothing but Albertcraft and Dshift.
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>>174254613
Good luck, they're behind 7000 zombies.
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>>174254813
In MtG the defender is at advantage.
Get 4 bodies and all the slugs are dead
Not to mention you'd have to pay fucking 12 + 4R or lose on the spot, aggro doesn't have that many lands.
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>>174254892
Speaking as someone in AA3, I still got Daria all the time, along with Albertcraft and DShift.
Suffice to say, fuck RoB. Absolute garbage expansion.
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>>174254996
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>>174254892
>It was nothing but Albertcraft and Dshift.

so the meta was nothing but DShift + the deck that beats DShift?

yeah sounds plausible.
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>>174254794
>Try the gold achievements (20 privates and practice AI being the best)
>Ranked rewards have gold but are scarce
>Be a 5-0 luck sack T2 player
>Wait until tomorrow's daily
>Whale and buy crystals
Those are your only options
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>>174254747
Yes, I was already playing against masters back then, and nothing I experienced matches your description.
It is true that sword was the most numerous opponent, but after the nerfs only every 4th of my opponent was actually a rune player, and out of rune I encountered far more D-Shift than Daria.
On the other hand I played against lots of Haven players and the same amount of dragonplayers.
Only before the nerf was the meta actually cancerous.

>>174254873
>telling somebody to fuck off = censorship
As expected of reddit
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>Taunt+Heal+Extra evo

I can't believe Cygames actually let me have this Crystalia card. They just... LET me have it!
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>>174255113
In terms of different strong decks rob after gobu/pierce nerf was the best expansion.
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>>174254825
drive him to the vet you bloody retard
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>>174255501
>It's not censorship if I FAIL at doing it!
lol
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>>174255217


Reddit
Spacing
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>>174255504
Still doesn't help you.
>>174251267
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Why is my wallet dragon suddenly fucking losing against Sword and Forest? How the fuck did that 2 crafts climb back up?
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>>174254825
Anon this happened to me once
My cat died the next day

Take it to the vet asap
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>>174255504
>turn 8 kinda do something
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>>174255638
Only people in positions of power (such as a moderator) can censor, retard.
Regular anons are incapable of doing so by definition.
Not only are you reddit, but you are also clinically retarded.
A sad case
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>>174255589
>>174255673
stop this now
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I just started. How is the account system handled by the game? Is it 1 account per phone? What if I get a new phone?
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Has anyone found a way to make Ginger work yet?
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I am not using Reaper in my midshadow. How wrong am I?
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>>174255736
>Only people in positions of power (such as a moderator) can censor, retard.

>https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/censorship
>The suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security.
>No mention of 'power' or institutions or anything of that sort anywhere
Uhhhh

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

UHHHHH ANON???????
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>>174255736
>it has to be systemic censorship
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>>174255742
Do you hate cats
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>>174255736
You're a fucking SJW idiot if you believe that. Literally playing a game with non-authority censorship in it while you say it. That's one dumb motherfucker.
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>>174255736
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>>174253284
>weeb is mad because he can't write his favorite japanese quotes without looking like a huge faggot weeb
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>>174255834
She works pretty well as fap material
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>>174255661
Remember that IGN interview? They said aggro had hidden tools waiting for use in ToG. Guess which crafts found their weapons
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"alright, let's check what the folks over at /svg/ are discussing right now"
>autistic tirades about reddit, spacing, and censorship that have nothing to do with the game
never change /svg/
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>>174255795
Anybody?
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>>174255907
very. first of all he rarely stays 1/1 so even at bare minimum u still get value out of him. with catacombs + reaper you get essentially free trades with everything. also it helps to maintain your board because disincentives enemy from clearing your board on the turn you played reaper. it also protects your board from aoe like t6 salamanders as long as u remember to pre- evo it to a 3/3
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>>174256064
>weeb is mad because he can't write his favorite japanese quotes without looking like a huge faggot weeb

That's a lie anon, there are no good japanese quotes.
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>>174256087
Source please
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>>174255919
>>174255934
Only institutions can actually suppress and prohibit though, people can't.
I have neither the power not the means to censor you redditards, all I can do is tell you to fuck off and verbally assault you, which is not censorship, just hostile behavior.
If you in reaction to that hostile behaviour choose to stop posting or leave 4chan, then it is you yourself that is performing the censorship on none other than your own person. You would be engaging in self-censorship.
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>>174255548
I'm just not seeing it. All the strong decks were awful to play against.
In AA3, I played mostly against (about 75% of my matches) Daria, Aggro Sword, and Aggro Blood, with the occasional Saha Ramp, Aggro Shadow, Nep, Combo Forest, and DShift.
Aggro Sword, Aggro Shadow, and Aggro Blood were absolute ass to play against. All they did was hit face every fucking turn. it was obnoxious. Daria was no better; they just flood the board and rammed face and then hit you with burn. And the entire deck was luck too; if they chained Darias it was really hard to win, if they never drew a Daria it was the easiest win in the world. This is what I faced the most, so perhaps it colored my perception of post-nerf, but I fucking hated it. Fuck aggro metas.
Combo Forest and DShift are just the same old shit for 4 metas in a row. DShift specifically is one of my least favorite decks in the game.
Nep was awful too, but not really a problem. Just not very fun to play against; Mordecai is a dumb card and it's always frustrating to lose to him. Of course we have Aegis now which is even worse, so thanks for that Cygames.
I actually had an overall positive winrate in post-nerf RoB (I didn't even play prenerf since I hated it so much) and climbed from AA2 to AA3 faster than I did AA1 to AA2 back in DE but I hated most of the decks. It just wasn't fun, every deck started becoming really frustrating, a trend that has continued with fervor into TotG. RoB was the tipping point where this game went straight to shit.
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>>174256294
>Get proven wrong but still decides to ramble
Spoken like a true redditor ;) UPVOTE
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>>174256270
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=62390416
Speaking of censorship
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>>174256356
>Get proven wrong but still decides to ramble
You sure would like to think so, wouldn't you, Plebdditor-kun
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I...I'm going to confess to Arisa tomorrow.
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I've finally reached at least 200 wins as every class and have no idea what to play now.

Forest is my least favorite class.
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>Playing KYS blood
>Gonna stop after I lose
>1 1/2 hours in
>Still haven't lost
Help
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>>174256627
A different game
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>>174256627
It is time you uninstall anon and go outside
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What is this reno jackson bullshit, I thought I was done with hs
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>>174256627
Play Havencraft.
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>>174256627
>he doesn't have every 500 win flair
casuals pls go
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>>174257141
I had one game where I didn't kill that fairy, she bounced it back and a couple turns later she healed again with it once she had enough shadows
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>>174257265
>He never tasted Fairy Beast bounce Fairy Beast bounce Fairy Beast before
Newfag pls
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Can
you
guys
please space
out your sentences
so it's easier to
read thanks
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>>174244558
>and now that she's gone
She isn't.
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>>174257392
>tfw Fairy beast into ancient elf into fairy beast into another ancient elf into fairy beast into ancient elf endless cycle.
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>>174257141
>elves have WoF for a reaper, shitton of heals with Queen and Aerin and enchanced Tarzans
>they still can't deal with shadow
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>>174257569
From lower ranks maybe.
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>>174257598
That's because WotF is a shitty board clear overall
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>>174257598
Skellys only spawn after WOF hit. So you can't hit new skelly
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>ancient elf
>turn 3 themis your own board
>dies to bahamut next turn
it's shit
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>>174258120
>themis

You mean homecoming.
It's not elf's fault dragon is broken.
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>>174258120
Now THIS is top tier shitpost, well done, it made me smile
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hello, shadow-pals, can I get a concede/win, please?
43577
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>>174258120
You are like a little baby
Watch this
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>>174258120
>dies to bahamut next turn
Good shit anon
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Homecoming should be 5 mana again
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>>174258514
Why stop there? Let's make it 3 mana.
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>>174258514
Skullfane should be 3 mana 1/1
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>>174258307
thank you!
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>>174258868
>Reworked Skullfane: 3 PP 1/1
>Fanfare: Give your allied followers and amulets Last Words: Summon a 1/1 Skull-iton
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Is there a craft that has a worse viable-to-non-viable card ratio than Forest?
They're definitely the prettiest cards, but you go to look at them and the overwhelming majority have absolute garbage stats and effects.
>2 mana 2-2, ignore ward
>4 mana 4-3, Evolve: Return another follower to its owner's hand.
>4 mana 3-2, Rush, fanfare: put a fairy in your hand
What the fuck? That last one is just blatantly a powercrept by Jeno.
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Nerf dragoncraft.
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>>174259105
Runecraft.
90% of Rune's cards are unplayable.
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Tempo blood!
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>its another you only get to play against shadow and dragon episode
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Hello friends
Is there a referral thing that anyone would like to have? Or is there no referral system in this game?
Also any advice before I start?
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>>174259468
sent
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>>174259468
Have fun anon
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>>174259468
Choose one craft you want to play and vial everything that does not belong to that craft to create a t1 deck immediately
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>>174259468

don't fall for the rerolling meme
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>>174242818
If you read Devil of Vengeance's flavor text it pretty much confirms this.
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>>174259664
Can't I play multiple crafts (decktypes?)? I'm willing to put in a little money

>>174259618
sent what you nigger

>>174259652
thank
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>>174254696
When Cygames updates their darn story
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>>174259821
You can have every deck as f2p in like 2-3 months depends on how often you play.
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>>174259468
Play another game, Shadowverse is shit
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Melvie got some serious jugs on her.
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Before considering match-ups, deckbuilding or any kind of """""""""""""skill"""""""""""""""", games are decided by who draws a better curve. Defend this.
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>>174259430
>rank up to a0
>literally can't leave 20k because every nigger I've faced over the past two days is playing shadow or dragon
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>>174260002
It's your deck anon
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>think I should move on from unga bunga
>drop 2k vials on kys blood
>go from a 80% to 40% win rate
Never leave home. Can't wait for bat support in 2 months.
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>>174259996
Don't play card games then.
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>>174259936
I play hearthstone for like 20mins - 3 hours a day
this game is more fun, right?
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>>174260164
it is, but just don't accidentally climb to AA rank, that's where it's no fun allowed and you can't derank
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>>174260101
Yeah I know it's my deck, because I'm not playing shadow or dragon like these cunts, I'm playing some unfinished shit.
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>>174258120
Dat heel stomp, dat tits support... I wish she would sit on me...
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>>174260129
This is not official!
DELET THIS
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>>174260337
>playing unfinished shit
>complaining
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>>174260330
Thanks, I'll make sure not to
What website do you use to check for tier decks?
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>>174260442
>Being a new player
>having a complete deck capable of winning frequently against shadow or dragon this expansion
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How can I improve this deck?
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>>174259821
Don't vial everything for one competitive deck, that's completely retarded.
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>>174260467
google shadowverse tier list
the gamepress link is pretty reliable
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>>174260467
>>174260330
Don't listen to this scrub, you can play meme and fun decks all your way to master, he is probably just bad and bitter because he is stuck.
t. AA3 mememaster
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>>174260587
>>174260671
I like this game already desu
and the girls are a+
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>>174260671
As a fellow AA3 memester, don't.
Playing meme decks in the high ranks in this expansion is hell. The top decks are so powerful and oppressive it really just isn't fun, unless you don't care about winning at all.
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>>174260671
>you can play meme and fun decks all your way to master
desu you can play rose thorn otk to master
It might just take a bit longer to climb.
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>>174260580
More cute witches!
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>>174260573
It's easy to make a meta deck for any craft except dragon day 1 if you rerolled correctly and vialed cards you don't need for it.
Also anon said he's A0, plenty of time to make 1 or 2 complete meta decks
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>>174260671
Just because it's possible to climb with a shit tier winrate, doesn't mean it's fun to do so.
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>>174260902
Kill yourself netdecker. His complaints are absolutely legit.
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>>174260743
You'll enjoy it for a month, then you'll realise it currently has less depth than hearthstone. Which is pretty sad.
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>>174249241
i think something like this could have worked
>storm
>ward
>When this follower battles a opponents follower, after damage calculation, banish that follower
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>>174261013
>less depth than hearthstone
are you fucking with me right now
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>>174261013
Yes, Hearthstone is the pinnacle of depth, with such intriguing mechanics as random generation, discover and adapt.
Truly the Card Game to surpass MTG
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>>174261013
>Started playing because the game had more depth, had more deck playstyles, and was less tempo-oriented than HS back in standard
>The game has been powercrept so hard all the depth has been removed and there are less viable decks than HS now
What the fuck happened Cygames
>>174261089
>>174261132
He's right, sadly.
Don't get me wrong, Hearthstone still sucks, but Shadowverse is even worse now.
What is it with jap ccgs and insane powercreep?
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>>174261013
HS has less depth than coinflipping.
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>>174260997
>say nothing about netdecking
>"kys net decker"
t.scrub who didn't reroll for the cards he wanted and is shit at the game
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>>174261089
>>174261132
wasn't the case before ungoro

right now HS meta has more viable deck archetypes than shadowverse

i'm sure next xpac blizzard will make it shit again but for now it looks interesting
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>>174261198
They need quick games for their commutes. You have to wow them with something lest they lose interest in a sea of mobages
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>>174261324
And SV has even less depth than that now.
Un'Goro was a good expansion, quest Rogue aside. RoB and TotG were god awful expansions.
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>>174261198
Hearthstone will never be better than Shadowverse on the basis that it is a randomly generated shit that doesn't have an ounce of player skill involved.
You rise and fall by the rng, it is a truly shit game. You might as well play a slot machine simulator, because that is what Hearthstone is, a fucking slot machine
The only time Cuckstone was good was prior to the release of Goblins and Gnomes, after that everything went to shit due to Blizzard being retarded.
Seriously kill yourself for daring to defend that piece of shit
>>
How do I beat the story missions? I vialed all my swordcraft cards to make my shadow deck so shit like guardian sun + Leonidas is literally unbeatable for me.
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>>174261494
lol
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>>174261494
RoB was amazing post nerf.
>>
Why is this one drop so cute
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>>174261632
Post nerf Rob was the most fun I had with a card game in a long time
You could actually meme around and still win games, unlike Tog shit
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>>174261198
Japs have no sense of reservation when it comes to creative design

Everything has to be over-the-top, and naturally everything that follows has to push it even further. They are honestly terrible at creating balanced games.
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>>174261668
>not sticking with Ouickblader
Unfaithful pleb isn't worthy to play sword, should be enslaved with rest of the demons you filthy ningen
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>>174261525
You seem to misunderstand.
I'm not defending HS. HS is a shit card game that has essentially ruined digital CCGs with its popularity.
I'm saying SV is even worse off now.
>>174261632
I still don't understand how people think this.
Post nerf was better than pre-nerf but it still sucked hard, and it was the beginning of the truly ridiculous powercreep.
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>>174261741
Balance is for weenies.
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>>174261723
It was fun unless you were playing dragon, blood or shadow
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>>174261741
Yoggsaron exists and was created by non-Japs. It really is the pinnacle of bad Hearthstone design.
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>>174261668
Sword has cute girls

>>174261817
Fag
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>>174261858
You can balance my weenie anon
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>>174261889
That's true, therefore japs must be the best game designers in the world. Good point anon.
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>>174261889
Yogg-saron wishes he was as powerful as some of the shit that's come out recently in SV
>>
Need a concede for a daily.

98217
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>>174261893
quickblader is a girl
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>>174261857
As long as Shadowverse isn't as RNG dominated as Hearthstone, it will remain superior.
HS has long since sunk to the bottom of card game quality by embracing the randomness
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>>174261857
SV verse still isn't worse off than HS because the number of "viable" deck archetypes in a meta has nothing to do with how good a game is.
Midrange Shaman dominating HS didn't make HS shit, it was the design philosophy that turned games into an RNG-fest.
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>>174261817
>using weeb words that he only learned because le ebin dragon ball meme
>thinks he can talk shit about others
get the fuck out of here nigger spic
>>
We agree that Rune in take two is the worst class right?
>>
So what packs do I buy? Just standard stuff for now? Does it matter since I can get them so quickly?

>>174262094
I think this is the main reason I want to play this game
Even duelyst got shit on with shit like jaxi and meltdown
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>>174261351
As a master player, I know new people spend thousands right off the bat in the game just to catch up with the FOTM netdeck. I'd easily say that B rank all the way up to AAA are nothing but people playing the same broken decks that we do, because new players want those strikes instead of learning.
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>>174261887
I was playing Dragon and Blood in Rob and I was having fun.
I don't know what you are talking about.
ToG ruined any interested I had in dragoncraft, it is pure cancer now
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>>174262121
That and the complete impossibility of getting anywhere without dumping a bunch of cash. I dare anyone here to make a f2p HS account and scrounge together a single viable deck without paying any real money.
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>>174262023
Powerful and consistent is okay. Shit like that exists in MtG.
Powerful and "random", to the extent you can either completely turn around games or throw them, is godawful.
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>tfw they kill the game by making agro shadow broker
>tfw despite all their board cleaning spells i keep resumoning minions
>tfw when i' gonna climb to master the easy way

thank you Cygames for breaking the game
>>
The real problem with TotG is, how the fuck are they ever going to fix things? I don't see the meta recovering unless they make sever nerfs, because what else are they going to do? If they print cards to counter this meta in the next expansion we'll just have even worse powercreep and the game will continue its downward trend.
I just don't see this game getting any better until they implement rotations or bans
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>>174261889
It is bad design, but it was a mistake in that they were too stupid to recognize the amount of potential it had to see serious play.
Look at cards like Daria and Aegis from SV to see something that is the pinnacle of over-the-top bullshit Japanese design that they intentionally put in the game.
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>>174261887
Face dragon, aggro blood, and Nep were all strong decks.
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>>174260902
Didn't reroll and didn't vial legendaries because that's fucking retarded.

70% of the niggers I face are shadow and shit on any deck I have. My most complete decks are snake blood, gets shit on by shadow and dragon, midrange sword, gets shit on by shadow and dragon, aggro blood, gets shit on by shadow, soul dealer blood, gets shit on by shadow.
noticing a trend here?
I have good haven decks that can actually fight shadow and win, but guess what happens when I play them?
hear the dragons roar.
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>>174262246
You don't mind giving me a rundown of some of the silly broken shit that MtG had?
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>>174262310
i only have 1 cerb and missing a few golds

should i craft the aggro version? the one without eachtar.
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>>174261893
Filthy waifufag

>>174262141
I watched dragonball dubbed like the rest of the world, filthy cur
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Also the fuck is this
It looks terrible but it made a huge noise and jumped off the screen when I unpacked it
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>>174262473
>being a dubcuck
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>>174262039
Thanks, Vampy.
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>>174262508
>Skull "JUST fuck my shit up" senpai

I really don't know if he'll even be viable at all.
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>>174262706
>>174262508
He could be viable if costed 1-3 points
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>>174262549
Yeah he should be slurping the cocks of foreigners like you, the stupid cuck!
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>>174262508
Possibly the worst Lego in the game
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>>174262508
Legendaries do that when you open them. You just happened to open one of the worst ones in the game lmfao
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>>174262246
The major problem I'm having with SV nowadays is it feels so oppressive. I feel like i can't play anything but the top tier decks without severely screwing myself over. The deckbuilding aspect of the game is completely gone because of the power level of the top tiers.
It also feels like you always have to have an answer to everything the minute someone plays it. Because of the rdiculous amount of burst damage, either directly from hand or from storm minions, any chip damage you take feels game-losing. It makes the game feels more like a contest of who draws more threats rather than who can actually play their cards better, and every expansion the game has gone more in this direction. I feel as though the devs' focus on making games fast has made the game not fun to play; there's so much shit you just can't do anything about now. Hell they even printed a card you literally can't do anything about. It just makes games feel frustrating, you just lose to your opponent's broken shit because you didn't draw your answers in the incredibly short time frame before said broken shit kills you.
But it's also bad in the other direction too; there's so many board clears and ways to remove minions thanks to evolves that boards never stick. So minions just feel useless unless they're absurdly powerful or have other uses.
Essentially everything is so extreme now it makes the game less fun to play because the game turns into a battle of draws and luck rather than a game of skill. And yeah, there's always luck in every card game, but skill should have a place too. The fun part about card games is actually playing the game, not just queueing in with a broken deck and hoping to draw better than your opponent.
Too bad they also fucking ruined arena because they have no fucking clue how to actually design cards for limited formats.
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>>174262410
>didn't reroll
>doesn't vial shit you don't need so you can have a complete deck
Your fault.
You're just shit at the game, blood and sword can stand up to dragon and shadow easily. Haven is still good with storm haven. Do you not know how to tech in cards to have better matchups against shadow and dragon?
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>>174262451
Feel free, Howl, Cerb and Reaper are all good cards, Soulsquasher and Eachtar are cool but not mandatory in aggro.
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>>174262415
Power 9
Many Urza's cards in their wake
Affinity
Cascade
Jace the Mindsculptor

MtG finds a way to let something stupid slip every 3-5 or so years
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Need Concede

96789
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>>174262793
>costed
Learn English you retarded ESL.
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>>174262916
I don't think you are right
You can play decks that are not top tier or even meta, except you have to set them that they counter the top decks.
For example Frog decks
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>>174262916
I don't think they actually designed any cards taking draft into account. T2 feels like a complete afterthought
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>>174262310
Aggro with Death Breath???
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>>174263349
And during these times many people stopped playing MtG. Affinity specifically saw a huge amount of players leave.
When things get too ridiculous, it's not fun, because it feels like you don't have much agency. That's how SV feels more me right now.
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>>174263403
I know English better than my own language though
"Costed" is an abnormal case anyway since it doesn't morph like a regular word.
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>>174262916
This. Even hs in its shittyness have you strategise and play around board clears. But here there are so many that its literally impossible.
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>>174263403
How many languages do you know?
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>>174263423
T2 is a complete afterthought. The game didn't ship with it, they patched it in later.
Any devs who actually cared about arena balance would never print Khawy at uncommon, for instance.
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>>174252350
[AUTISTIC SCREECHING]
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>>174262981
Yeah, because you should have to spend possibly days just to get decent cards or vialing legendaries that could be good next expansion just to start playing. because I didn't do either I'm shit at the game.

Tell me, since you think you're a fucking genius, what card can you tech against shadow that won't be worthless against dragon, and what card can you tech against dragon that won't be worthless against shadow?
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>>174262824
Haven legos are filled with despair and nightmares.

Jeanne was a no go
Skullfane is just lol
Seraph was meta defining, but is now sitting in a corner collecting moss
Eidolon is a meme
Aegis is 2 slow and is a ruse from cygames. expect to see him fall to the ground soon.

Emo Jeanne might have a place, but Storm Haven doesn't get much play in general.

So out of the six legos that Haven has, three were already a meme and DOA, two are barely hanging on in the meta or already on the way out of the meta. The only one that hasn't gone out of the way is edgequeen Jeene but she barely has a presence at the moment.

Haven was a mistake.
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Get triple seraph : shit I am unlucky.

First seraph : blasted
Second seraph : blasted
third seraph : he double forte
I win

Haha, next time use 3 blasts in your deck.
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>>174263785
You forgot Moon.
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>>174263785
Jeanne was actually meta in Standard. She had her time...
in a tier 3 class.
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>>174252350
>SHEDS TEARS OF JOY I'VE ARRIVED
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>>174263736
kys dubcuck
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>>174263950
I knew that I was forgetting something. Sad that I forgot about storm bunny of self heals.
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>>174252350
DING DONG
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>>174261080
That's essentially the same.
Unless you want it to be a clash effect.
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>>174264105
Okay, you're new.
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>>174261080
Hmmm I think I've seen that effect somewhere
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>>174264140
in mine the banish effect is even if to opponents follow isnt destroyed, basically bane but banishment instead
>>174264437
shhhhhhh
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>>174264437
The way YGO cards are written bothers me to no end
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>>174264496
Bane ensures that it's always Destroyed → Banished.
Even invulnerable Albert isn't protected from Bane.
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>>174263349
Forgot to add the most recent which occurred in the most recent set: Smuggler's Copter
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>>174264591
they're written in perfect english.
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>>174264592
Bane allows for Last Words to proc. Banish prevents that from being a thing. So it'd be a pseudo Odin with better stats at the expense of being 2 pp more expensive and no guarantee of the follower being left on the board..
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>>174264797
In the most obtuse and awkward ways humanly possible.
Every YGO card reads like a legal document.
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>>174264591
I loved the shit out of Yugioh but I agree

You literally have to be a lawyer to interpret what the fuck a card does these days

>>174264797
Look at this bullshit, a card should not need this much text to describe what it does
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>tfw Moon has perfect synergy with DJannu
If only they weren't both 6 pp.
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I've been trying to make these runecraft decks work all morning and each and every last fucking one of them is so unreliable, inconsistent, and fucking awful
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>>174264821
I think we're just both have different assumptions on how the events were to occur.
I assumed that bane procs destruction, which procs nuZeus' effect which changes that destruction to banish.

Eitherway, we're just talking about a fictional card, so I'm gonna drop this here.
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>>174264995
The ride never ends
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>>174265245
Both get removed the turn they're played
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>>174265314
Welcome to runecraft.
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>>174264932
>a card should not need this much text to describe what it does
yeah, if you're a brainlet.
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>be me vs swordcuck
>he puts down pepe and BMs me
>ORTHRUS HAS ARRIVED
>enemy has conceded
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>>174261525
>You might as well play a slot machine simulator
This feels oddly familiar.
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can i get a concede please
56506
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>>174265527
Wrong anon bud.
But even then, they're just really poorly worded.
For instance, take the D.D. Warrior Lady.
Why not just say "Whenever this card battles an enemy, after damage, you may banish that enemy. If you do, banish this card." That reads so much better.
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>>174265314
>mfw made a burn runecraft
>mfw winning consistently
>mfw no face
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>>174264995
>>174265353
Uh... what
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>>174265738
Because you probably overlooked a rules lawyer thing with that version of the effect.
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>>174264995
So this is a wincon right?
You drop it, it deletes most monsters and since it can't be blocked it slaps face for 9k?

You still only have 8k health right?
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42346

Need a concede
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Guys, we finally have a real rugged man streaming our game now!

Finally someone who's not a tranny, scumbag, or beta weaboo playing our game.
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>>174265789
That reminds me, it took way too long for this card to be made.
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>>174265353
this card is actually very simple to understand.
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>>174265726
thank you mr. skeleton
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>>174265913
It's not a wincon because it's fucking impossible to actually get off.
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>>174265984
>cancer vs cancer
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>>174265927
Thanks
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>>174266062
kys shadownigger
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>>174265984
Ironically gangster weeb is the best streamer.
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>>174266115
You even write cancerous.
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>>174265986
That's really simple though.
If I understand properly then wherever it's summoned that player takes the next turn.
Doesn't this mean you can take an extra turn?
Also doesn't Ra has 4k att and def anyway?
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>>174265984
>literal BR
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>>174265353
Cards were some dumb bullshit when I stopped playing around when pendulums actually came out. Why the fuck does that card need like 5 effects?
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>>174266262
>Also doesn't Ra has 4k att and def anyway?
No, by default it has 0.
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>>174265881
No, YGO are just written really stupidly. It seems like they're just directly translated a lot of the time.
YGO has two massive problems with its cards. The first is cards are often written in the format of Cause: Effect, rather than just writing an if/then sentence or something similar. So things get very awkward grammatically and don't have any flow at all. Using the DD card posted earlier, they wrote it like
After combat: Do this
Rather than
When combat, this happens.
The first is not natural at all in English.
The other, more major problem, is they don't have keywords. This is why YGO cards often look like walls of text whereas similar cards in MtG or something can be very concise. Not that MtG doesn't also have walls of text of course, but nothing as bad as the shit in YGO.
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>>174266062
wait, why is this guy also cancer? seems like pretty regular dude to me
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>>174266410
look at his deck
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>>174266024
A wincon doesn't have to be good to be a wincon.
Case in point: Anomaly.
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>>174266360
Its ok, link monsters will kill pendulums.
They're pretty much the worst new type of card to be introduced to yugioh.

Everything from Arc V era yugioh was a mistake.
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>>174266360
Powercreep.
YGO is infamous for its absurd powercreep.
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>>174266262
>it's really simple
>gets the effect completely wrong
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>>174255950
i love my cat so i pet him a lot and he's ok now.
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>>174265984
that is a funny webcam placement
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>Mastema and bats on board
>forest's turn
>he summons Tarzan and evolves it
>Removes a forest bat instead of Trading with Mastema
>I remove him next turn and put him in lethal range
What was he thinking, forestbabs?
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>>174266360
that card wasnt even good when it came out, it was just a meme card to have fun with
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>>174266145
Who?
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>>174266582
>A E S T H E T I C
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>>174266401
You're missing YGO's point, somehow.
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>>174266441
lol, so that's what you meant. He literally got his aegis Kaguya'd, didn't know or read what the card did, and put down his second aegis the very next turn and also got it Kaguya'd
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>>174259864
Those legs holy shit, why were they hiding them????
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>>174266658
Terrible powercreep, ugly card art and aesthetics, and convoluted text-heavy cards?
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>>174266563
Well what else would 'Shift control to this card's owner' mean?
I did mess up the turn time, it's after the next turn, not straight away.
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>>174262310
>a3
damn you pro
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>>174266623
>What was he thinking, forestbabs?
"I don't want to hurt that qt 6/6"
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>ToG made Storm Haven viable again
What a time to be alive
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>>174266801
>ugly card art and aesthetics
Found the homosexual.
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>>174266527
The powercreep will forever lies on X deck archetype, Xyz and Synchrons.
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>>174266628
bakab4k4. Literal who but he's entertaining.
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>mfw a Hearthnigger says HS is better near me
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>>174266582
I'm pretty sure he did that on purpose for this game. He probably does little touches like this, if he can, to improve a sponsored stream and continue being sponsored. I've watched other sponsored streamers not give a fuck where they place the camera and it blocks important info either when opening packs or playing the game. You can tell the difference between people who care about their work and those that just want to collect a paycheck because they go even a little bit above and beyond.
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They call her Mastema because her nasty and ugly breasts always have mastitis.
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>>174267143
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>>174267030
First off, the general card design of the frame in YGO is ugly as hell.
Second, all the art is just a character floating in space with a holographic background.
YGO is the ugliest major TCG I've ever seen.
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>>174266801
Maybe you don't understand how dueru is a serious deal.
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Need concede at 13696 shadowbabs
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>>174267059
that fucking traitor created a fucking reddit account. he is not best streamer at all.

Also how is he gangster? Sounds like just a regular black weaboo
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>>174266801
Come at him, faggot.
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>>174267232
It's okay to love cock anon.
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Stay in tier 4 where you belong
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>>174267143
>When they say the art is better
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>>174267279
Thanks Luna!
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I thought people said snake blood was bad? I've ranked up 2000 points in Masters since I started playing it yesterday and am actually doing better with it than full wallet dragon.
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>>174267385
The dubbing IS better though.
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>>174267467
No one cares about that.
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>>174267467
>HS
>dub
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>>174267370
>Hating on the shitty YGO art makes you gay because it has anime girls in it
Seriously anon?
Do you even realize what thread we're in?
Having anime girls in your game doesn't mean the overall art quality is any good. The cards still look terrible. Though that art is better than what I usually see from YGO cards.
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>>174267464
dick or lies
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>>174267467
Well shit I hope an English speaking western company has better English vocals than the Japanese company.
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Maniacal Laughter as the enemy Luna hits me
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>>174267464
It's not "bad" per se, it's just an annoying and binary way to play the game. If you draw your combo and opponent has no answer then you win, whoop-de-doo. Don't draw it or if they have an answer and you have a very awkward game. It's kind of the same way Anomaly works but it's much more viable in comparison.
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>>174267385
>>When they say the art is better
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>when some wannabe weeb pretends japanese eachtar is better than english one

http://sv.bagoum.com/voice/e/vo_104541020_3.mp3
http://sv.bagoum.com/voice/j/vo_104541020_3.mp3
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>>174266401
>The first is not natural at all in English.
what? it's perfectly natural. taking this>>174264437
>after damage calculation
which means if there was any kind of pierce damage, effects that activate before damage, they'd activate.
>when this card battles an opponents monster
self explanitory
>you can banish that monster
not forced to banish.
>also banish this card
when you do banish this card gets banished too.

That allows a lot more than something like
>Clash: banish both monsters
In this it is forcibly activated and if there is another effect to be activated it's activated at the same time.

SV and HS are literally baby mechanics compared to Yugioh. It's like comparing call of duty with red orchestra. .
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>>174266806
The control of the actual card goes to the other play.
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>>174267659
Eat your heart out, swordfags.
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>>174267756
Korean Hector is better than both imo
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>he doesn't use the default decks for dailes
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Anyone have a good budget forest deck? I have one ancient elf and one roach. I'm considering buying the pre-built deck
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>>174267467
kys cubduck
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>>174267814
>He doesn't use the default decks for climbing ladder
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>>174267614
YGO is absolutely incredible with its art fag, get over it. Out of 4k cards only a bunch are extremely bad, often on purpose.
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>>174267764
So it keeps jumping between the players?

Wouldn't that mean that you can just sacrifice their board to summon the egg, wait for it to jump back to you and then summon the bird?

Sounds fucking broken.
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>>174267756
>thisheadcan'tbetaken
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>>174267912
>this is 10/10 in YGO
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>>174267782
>swordfags
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>>174267759
It's not natural. I.E, it's not something someone would naturally ever say. It's technically correct, but it is very awkwardly worded.
And you can literally still say all of that much less awkwardly:
Whenever this card battles an enemy monster, after damage occurs, you may banish that monster. If you do, banish this monster.
Literally the exact same thing but flowing naturally rather than sounding incredibly stilted.
You're comparing it to HS and SV, I'm comparing it to MtG. YGO cards are worded horribly.
>>174267912
To be fair I haven't seen much new art.
But everything I've seen is either some generic monster over a holographic background or the horrendous old art. And that still doesn't change the fact that the card itself looks like absolute shit. It's even worse nowadays since you have that horrible old frame contrasting hardcore with fancy new art.
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>>174267981
It would be if there wasn't better ridiculous plays you can make in stead.
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>>174267912
Nah man. After GX the cards have proceeded to get busier and busier with over designed edgy bullshit. It's easier to find shitty cards than it is to find good designed ones now.

>every boss monster needs 10000 spikes, 3 heads, two missile launchers, and a retractable cock cannon nowadays
>>
23925

need a concede for daily, thanks
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>>174256332
What decks were you playing?
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>>174265986
>>174264995
>>174265353
>mfw went to a ygo tournament at a hobby shop in my town
>almost all of them were darkie chilluns with creased cards.
>they all played cards without any fucking effects
>still did stupid shit constantly like trying to summon without sacrifice or whatnot.
I can only imagine what a clusterfuck middle school ygo is these days.
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>>174268085
I'd love to hang out and date that gramps, fuck you.
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Is there anything more fun than killing 90k vials walletdragons with your pepe?
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>>174268236
Wolfbolt, Elana Seraph (actually a really good meta choice, I won with it the most by far), and a homebrew dirt PtP that actually did pretty well.
I didn't play any of the top tier decks because I hate aggro
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>>174268269
Shoulda told them you were an undercover cop and confiscated all their cards
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>>174267614
>not liking retractable cock cannons
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>>174266401
>I don't understand what I'm talking about but let me post anyways
I might not like the damned game anymore but I can tell you have no goddamned idea about what you're talking about.
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>>174268347
Sniping pepe with 2 Mays on turn 3.
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Succubus in kys?

Y/N
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>>174268529
DELETE THIS
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>>174268450
That art looks like absolute trash, so thanks for proving my point?
Note I'm not just talking about the technical quality, I'm talking about the awful aesthetic choices. Looks like some weeaboo DA photoshop tier shit
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>>174268138
Except you just fucked up half a dozen interactions due to the change in wording, good job, chucklefuck. The game is shit, but that doesn't mean your attempts at changing it are good or better than what's already there.
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>>174268386
That was back when I was in middle school.
I gave the silly shit up a few months later, after I got my first computer and internet connection.
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>>174268616
Please tell me which interactions have changed from my wording compared to theirs.
I seriously cannot believe people are defending the way YGO cards are written. I thought it was a well known fact how stupid it is?
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>>174268138
>>174268175
>Nah man. After GX the cards have proceeded to get busier and busier with over designed edgy bullshit
This is right. I'm implying the former cards from the early generation. Anything after that are big robots.
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WHO THE FUCK RUNS VOICES OF RESENTMENT IN MID SHADOW
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>174268573
Paraneko list uses succ. It's pretty good.
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This guy should be hecror's rival, yet he's so bad.
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>>174268590
Mate, you're just making yourself look like a ass every time you post, you're a ponce and I'd politely ask you to leave if you ever came to my card store because half the people in there would want to murder you within seconds of you opening your mouth.
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>>174268778
I tried it, actually good card against dragon and you can use it early. Can be replacement for phantom howl.
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>>174268590
That one isn't particularly bad. Those are toys, so it fits perfectly well.
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>>174267756
English is worse by default simply because I can understand it, but then again I muted the game day 1.
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>>174267616
Here's the Snek deck I'm currently using. It's teched against several decks so it might be better if you focus on one niche, but it's nice that it hasn't been auto-loss to dragon even if they manage to kill the first snake wave. Probably screwed against Storm though but Mask of the Black Death can be clutch for that.
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>>174268874
>Still no counterargument
I don't care if I look like an ass, it doesn't change the fact YGO cards are horribly written
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>>174268803
Do you have a link to the list or his twitter?
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I just hate how tiny the text gets and half the good cards reference one other specific card.

Also, the translations are terrible
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>>174268936
That's not what I mean.
It looks stupid because instead of being part of a larger picture it's just a glowing robot on a holographic background, and the card frame itself is 3 centered squares. It's ugly as hell. YGO cards are a travesty
fitting for an equally shitty game
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>>174268573
http://appmedia.jp/shadowverse/739733
I like that Airjammer always gets nice pulls. It's fune.Negative win rate at A2 though.
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>>174269049
https://twitter.com/para_chan_/status/848865446921097218
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>>174269232
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>Haven't played since the expansion hit because I couldn't figure out a good cSword list
>come back after college slows downs
>Everyone is playing Rowen
At least I get free wins with Aegis I guess, on that note, Aegis and test of strength are pretty fun to play with.
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>>174269253
Do you want background in a fusion monster? Also, what could possibly be the background of a toy batch? Kaiba shooting on mini-buildings?
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>>174269656
Oh, that's nothing, bud.
Soul dealer is viable now, and the deck that uses it is dragon's hardest counter.
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>tfw using the new card reveal method
Gotta say, this one's actually good, thanks to whoever posted it in the previous thread
pulling a legendary every ~3 packs now
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>>174267756
Nah mate. Demon General Hector's line in Japanese commands your followers to march on. Perfectly fits with being a demon general and his zombie summon and buff effects. English line is pretty good too, but doesn't capture the essence of the card.
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>>174269774
What are you even on about?
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>>174269860
anon please
it's okay to use the jp dub and admit that it doesn't win in EVERY single matchup
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>>174269774
Explain further
I just skip so that I only have to be disappointed once.
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New Game-AI decks

Ouroboros Face Dragon (Deck author: Tanuki) 18 win streak in Master
http://game-ai.jp/30777/

Daria Rune (Deck author: Basho~) 13 win streak in Master
http://game-ai.jp/30661/
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>>174269937
>New decks
>Another face deck and Daria again
Just kill this game already
>>
681 738 169

Just spent 300$ making my bloodcraft aggro deck, come at me faggots
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>>174269914
I do like some of the English dub lines too though. Hector however is 10x better in the original.
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>>174269774
Explain yourself, bastard!
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>play midrange sword
>fight dragon
>doing pretty well
>bahamut time comes
>giant slayer
>bahamut 2
>execute
>bahamut 3
>flood
>lightning blast lol
>veteran+griiiimniiir
>lightning blast lol
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>>174269774
>newfags detector
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>>174269937
Wow, almost as experimental as home brew Daria.
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>>174269449
holy shit i spat my water
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>>174269756
How the fuck did Soul Dealer become viable?
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>>174270141
FUCK DRAGON.
Trying out Walfrid sword is cancer when LITERALLY nothing can stick onto the board.
>T6 Breath
>T7 Saha pulling Israfil
>T8 Breath again
>T9 Israfil Evo
>T10+ Bahamut/Lightning/Grimnirrrrrr blast spam
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>need some more ancient elves to finally perfect my forest deck
>keep getting an urge to create Atomy's for memes

Why can't I just buy vials...
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>>174269031
>T3 blood moon
>T4 evo righteous devil

Holy shit that's a strong going second play
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>>174270405
It's Sword's fault board clears have become so ridiculous.
A certain smug sea queen was causing too many problems so she had to be deleted, but they can't nerf a legendary or people would get too many vials back.
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>>174270405
>complaining about the worst dragon deck
You'd just be fucking dead by then if it was a good dragon deck.
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>>174270350
New Blood cards like Belph, Spiderweb and Air Jammer made vengeance status SCARY AS SHIT. Because you have a more consistent way to be in vengeance, Laura and Devil of Vengeance are much better as well.
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Can I get a concede please
47054
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>>174270405
>>174270141
Honestly I can deal with Ouroboros and Sibyl and saha+israfil, all the other clears, whatever. But Grimnir is by far the most obnoxious card in the expansion bar none. The fact that Dragon can ramp up to 10 so easily and have access to ANOTHER board clear that hits face as well, without sacrificing any valuable slots in their deck because he can be used on turn 3 no problem, is total garbage.
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>>174270350
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/card/dark-airjammer
Along with
>another 4 drop that also puts you into vengeance, but also has draw-two
>a 2 drop with 1-4 and ward
>a 2 drop with fanfare: pull a card from your deck with 6 or more attack.
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>>174270405
Gee. I wonder whose fault is that in the first place.
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>>174270501
>buy forest precons
>get your ancient elves
>dust the rest for your atomemes
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Gabriel's heavenly feet
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>>174270634
Thank you
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>Everybody is blaming Otohime for removalverse

S-she just wanted some fun. It's fucking Sage commander that escalated Otohime into bullshit land.
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>>174270350
New legendary does something similar and also drops your HP down to 10. With both of them this gives enough consistency for you to just suicide your life on turn 4 and build your entire deck around vengeance effects, so previous shit cards like Devil of Vengeance became viable as well and it's hyper aggressive.
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>>174269937
But that's just an ordinary Melvie Daria deck, what's new?
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>>174267756
JP cucks btfo
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>>174270691
>using Baphomet in KYS blood
lmfaoing at your deck AND your dead airjammer pulls family
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>>174270784
FEET
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>>174270141
Remember, there's always more boardwipes.
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>>174270930
Getting one of the two baphomets in my deck from my airjammer pull is a lot less game-losing than not having turn 4 vengeance.
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>>174271021
Grimnir needs to be removed. One of the worst cards they've made
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>>174267756
>grr im a generic zombie guy
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>>174271125
Stay mad
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>>174271021
>3 turns of Grimnir and 1 of Ouro does 17 face damage literally for free

Disgusting
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>>174271147
>grr I'm a generic old japanese man
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>>174271021
This is your hand for today
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>>174271238
People use conflag?
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>>174271201
Shadow is worse because they do also tech some Grimmirs.
>>
What are all decks that can do an OTK combo right now?

Roach
dshift (well, you know)
azazel

what else?
I guess to some degree the sahabahazell counts, not quite OTK but odds are you managed to deal 7 damage before
>>
>lose
>be mad and switch to aggro
>lose all aggro mirrors and draw like shit
>instalose 300 points
this is why I should never give in the temptation
>>
>>174271219
lmao k dubcuck
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>>174270905
>Once upon a time Sage Commander was one of the most overstatted cards in the game
How far we've come
>>174271435
Wildfang OTK
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>>174271338
No.
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>>174271435
Haven
Wolfbolt
Discard dragon
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>>174271452
>I don't speak Japanese b-but I can totally testify his voice is not generic at all!
>you have to trust me I watched three whole animes I'm an expert
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>>174271219

>>174269860
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>>174271435
silver bolt, bowman kel, frog, haven's shittier frog, pascale+ambush
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>>174271125
Imagine how bullshit neutral cards will be next expansion.
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Remember to bully forest.
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>>174271572
>frog
how can frog otk? buffing it up for multiple turns before that without doing anything hardly counts
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>>174271560
>I don't speak Japanese b-but I can totally testify his voice is not generic at all!
heres my grid dubcuck
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Which pack do I buy if I want to play aggro shadow?
new player here
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>>174271572
Frog and Pascale are not OTKs because they require set-up and are vulnerable to being removed.
>>
24078
Can I have a concede please?
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>>174271710
Turn 7 with Arriet, any kind of ambush follower works that is buffed to 10 atk at least
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>>174271435
mary + dealer/belphegor, although you do need to be at 20 def

if you're counting baha zell, you might as well count ginger + 3 x lucifer + reina evolve
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>>174271731
>having trouble with 1 to 10
>>
Never abandon your favorite cards.
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>>174271710
So you OTK with 9pp bolts and roaches with no 0pps?
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>>174271662
Dragon is balanced, goy!
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WOW GUYS FUCK MUTAGENIC BOLT
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>>174271863
I tried to turn the cards into cloze to try it out but as it turns out cloze is shit, especially when on your phone.
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>>174271883
It's not the same thing.
OTK combos need to kill your opponent the turn you play the cards.
DShift requires a ton of set-up but is still an OTK because the actual turn you finally play the cards, they lose. Frog is not OTK because he is on the board before any combo goes off.
Seraph as well is not OTK. They can banish your Seraph. If they can interact with combo pieces before the combo goes off, that's not OTK.
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>>174271982
I'm won so many games thanks to mutagenic bolt.

Its probably within my top 5 new cards.
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>>174271982
Thanks for the 16 damage Eachter turn.
>>
Candelabra is fun as fuck

I wish it was more consistent
>>
What's the eta on Shadow nerfs? I've been playing since the free Luci promotion, and I have never witnessed a worse meta.
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>>174272440
Kill yourself, reddit nigger
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>>174271784
>>174271964
>>174272093
>>174272125
>>174272265
>>174272372
>>174272440
>>174272497
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>>174272491
Still not announced.
They need more data :^)
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I fucking despise Orthus fucking nigger dog
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>>174272598
>>174272619
>>>/trash/
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>>174272487

>They release cool archetype concepts/card like E. of madness
>They never actually give them the juice required to work
>Haven will always be associated with anti-fun because those are the archetypes they chose to print that actually get traction

Storm Haven is neat, viable and all that, but you can tell it's not the main focus of Haven support.
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>>174272692
Just star her, Catacomb, and Zell. I'd bet good money on at least 1 of them getting nerfed. They'll definitely not touch a single card that's more rare than a silver.
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>>174272763
>>174272761
I can't wait to post this on r/4chan!
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>>174272692
>Shadowfags were talking about how shitty Orthrus was when it was revealed
Is anyone as bad as /svg/ is when it comes to evaluating new cards?
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>>174272968
>They'll definitely not touch a single card that's more rare than a silver.
Homecoming.
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>>174273157
>>174273157
>>174273157
New thread
New thread
New thread
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>>174272619
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>>174272968
Orthrus is fine you nigger.
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>>174273146
Yes, exceptions exist. Especially if those exceptions were the very first wave of fucking nerfs back when the game barely had a playerbase and they couldn't afford to be too greedy.

Do you see double rewards and free legendaries promotions anymore? No, because the game is now established, and they can afford to be greedy.
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>>174271338
I only use it in my non-serious JO deck
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