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>Said one last goodbye
>>174195612

>Patch 1.13
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75840229415620604

>Ringed City items checklist
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>Ringed City pre-launch media
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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So I can heal the dark sigil after finishing the game without Yuria leaving right?
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penis
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repoast

What I expext to happen:

>Bandi Namco poaches Yui Tanimura into a new "Team Soul"
>Announces """""Dark Souls: Team Arena"""""

>Fusion of chalice dungeon concept, f2p multiplayer only focused. All AI enemies are player NPC based not creatures. Procedural labyrinth that keeps going down (think: Let it Die). Up to 16 players can exist in one dungeon layer fighting each other as a possibility. This is purely a player vs player experience.
>You can go alone, coop, or you can be apart of the "home team invaders" that defends the dungeon layer from cooperators looking to pass it. Undead Match style arena exists separate to the chalice mode.

>You choose a class, and level up. Same core fundamentals.

>The pay system extends to purchasing a temporary gold/silver serpent ring, and soul protection rings to make you not lose your souls to another player on death. There will be basic starter packs available to purchase but by no means offer any real advantage as gear is never what's really important, it's skill. This is more for waifu fashion faggots who can't handle being a naked guy from the beginning.

>All armour and weapons from all 3 souls games + new additions, random chest and player kill loot.

>"Soulgem" Bloodborne bloodgem like system where every weapon has 3 slots you can augment. Gems can be combined, transmuted, transposed converted. No gems will exist that outright increase AR or defence. Only many various passives and secondaries, like charge attacks up, stamina use down, health back on hit etc.
>Weapons and armour cannot be upgraded, They're all given a set stat scaling and base damage and you either meet the stats to use them and scale well with, or you don't. You can however augment them with gems and infusions for your own flavor and build.

What I hope for if something like this does happen:

>Max of SL100
>Exceptional match making and fast and fluid connections
>True Dedicated Servers
>Capes are optional
>Coifs on all helmets
>Armour Dye vendor
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>>174215506
reminder that Artorias died like a bitch and deserves none of your glory
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>>174215616
>armour dye vendor
>bright pink onion-smoughs everywhere
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For people who have done both; which is generally better for PvP, pyromancy or sorcery?

I mean both invasions and arena/duels.
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how the fuck do I do a SL 120 Havel cosplay build under 100% equip load in DaS3??
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>>174215675

Pyro is better.
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>bullying DUGS fags with quickstep memes

they get so scared
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>>174215694
why would anyone do a havel build in ds3
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>>174215664
At least if you could dye armor it would open up a lot more fashion options.
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>>174215739
I did, for a time.
It was suffering.
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>>174215616

I think the concept of the pure online Souls experience has already been brought to the most fruition it's going to be in For Honor; what you're suggesting requires a fine understanding of the mechanics of current Souls games, and I think the only group of people who possesses both the knowledge and the resources to do it properly is Fromsoft. Executives aren't going to get this part of it and won't lend funding to it, while game devs who do understand the appeal won't be able to get the money for it and can't realistically do it on the indie dime.

Maybe in the future at some point.
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>>174215616
From my experience everyone who use """"" """"" are shitposters, autists or full retards. With little exceptions. TL;DR pls.
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Aren't all humans descended from the dark soul? So aren't all humans undead? wtf Miyahacki
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>>174215694
It takes like 1 minute:

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/176015
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>>174215709

Is it just that it's impossible to hit people with sorceries or what?
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>>174215664
Just make it tasteful, like shades of metal.
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Cute!
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>>174215719
>equip doors
>spam charge attack
>DUGS fags have literally no idea what to do
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>final get darkmoon summon in anor londo
>host nowhere to be found
>30 seconds later host dies
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>>174215675
Pyro.
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looking for spear of the church battle summons

PC, password: VG

you will die, scaled down NG++, only the bravest need apply
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>>174215894
>TL;DR pls.
Not the poster, I think the idea is idiotic, but you seriously don't have the attention span to read that tiny-ass block? Jesus christ man.
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>>174215694
Here you go friendo
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/176017
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>>174216026
perfect ranking desu
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Wow, I'm bad, but Friede is a little excessive.

Three life bar phases.
I need to actually try and play the game instead of fagging around.
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>>174215948
>40 str
>45 endurance
what the fuck
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>>174215910
a fine smidgen of life to you
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>tfw Oceiros as a sorc
>tfw that no-windup charge
Is Hawkwood any good at keeping his attention? I can't find any player summon signs.
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Finally, I can now wield the pyromancy Warmth on my faith character.
But for what purpose.
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>>174215910
They can't wake up without Dark Sign
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>>174216032
i don't play with pedoposters sorry!
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so how to i make the Drakeblood Greatsword decent? shits all over the place
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>>174216176
He asked for fucking Havel cosplay.
40 Str is for 1-handing his weapon/shield.
And it's 40 End. The 46 is for Vit, which is needed to be just under 100% weight.
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>>174216258
To be warm. It's chilly out there!
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>>174216258
to heal your PCFCBF's wounds after a fight of course
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>>174216310
twas but a ruse
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>>174216219
why don't poor sorcs just supplement their sorcery with pyromancy?

honestly, just make a Fire weapon for situations where you can't do shit with magic. Oceiros skates around like a motherfucker but his hitboxes are actually pretty small.
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>>174216315
You revert to the patch where they buffed it's raw physical AR to 300+, before nerfing it down again, probably because they realized they had accidentally made it good.
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>>174215616
I actually 200% expect something like this without a shadow of a doubt.

Namco will definitely see money in making a standalone dark souls pvp game. Even if it's just the arena as a standalone thing.

I'd be open to the bloodborne chalice dungeons being expanded on and made better. Their problem was not enough tilesets and the stupid materials and creating them, and the good randomised ones took forever to actually get to.
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"Ashen one, hearest thou my voice, still?"

I could play this game forever just to hear that line one more time.

Who's your quotefu /dsg/?
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Is there a single pyromancy better for combat than Chaos Bed Vestiges?
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>>174216423
>why don't poor sorcs just supplement their sorcery with pyromancy?
Because to do decent damage with sorcery you need a minimum of 60 int, and that leaves very little room for faith investment.
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>>174215616
>>174215616
>What I expext to happen:
WRONG
PREPARE TO DINE
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>>174216473

Fear not the dark my friend.
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>>174216474
Black Flame w/ parting flame. It's a tactical nuke to the face
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>>174216436
would Dank or Chaos be good on it?
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>>174216468

One would imagine that if you made a game which was nothing but chalice dungeons that there'd be a lot more variety and better general mechanics. Roguelikes sell too don't they? Might make a good pitch.
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>>174216473
Fear not the dark my friend
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Reminder.
>use Banner WA
>use rouge for weapon in right hand
>now you have "rouge" aura
You can damage phantoms and host. ~230 damage per bleed proc.
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>>174216504
most pyromancies have a minimal faith investment and scale OK-ish with INT

fuck, the INT reqs are always higher
it's just good to have a backup if you're like, fighting princes and finding your shit is doing 50 damage.

The route I always go is 30/30 until I get everything I want and then respec if I plan to go full sorc INT nigger.
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>>174216474
>he doesn't freeaim great chaos fire orb
have fun with people rolling straight through it for no damage
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>>174216512
>>174216552
I was not disappointed.
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>>174216601
That is why I'll BC out any phantom that equips that fucking banner.
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Anything like this for DS3?
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>>174215991
Best fucking thing ever.
>mfw hosts and phantoms send 20 CSS each and keep on attacking my impenetrable wall
>Mfw it does 40 points of damage in total
Nobody knows what to do
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>>174216473
>One can become quite attached, even to a bumbling apprentice.
>Oh, I'm hardly serious.

DON'T
YOU
PLAAAY-AAAY-AYYY
WITH
MY HEART
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>>174216258
To fuck with hosts fighting spears and to make the church great again
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>>174216608
My problem isn't really doing damage to Oceiros - dark sorceries are pretty decent - it's his retard flailing and charges with like three frames of windup killing me every time. I think I just need to find someone to hold his attention for me while I nuke his arse.
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>>174216525
Splitting it's damage types even more is not a good idea. The way absorption and damage reduction from armor/equipment work heavily favors having a lot of a single type of damage, while hitting lower split damages extra hard, which is why weapons like Drakeblood and Dancers swords are so underwhelming.
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>>174216258
It's great for invasions, gather your buddies around a campfire and heal everyone to full for less FP than any equivalent miracle.
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Any anon willing to help me out? Would be greatly appreciated.

I need a Milkwood set, dragon's slayer axe, and an exile greatsword at the high wall bonfire.
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>>174216473
THE NIGHT BRIMS WITH DEFILED SCUM AND IS PERMEATED BY THEIR ROTTEN STENCH
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>>174215506
POST WEBMS
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>>174216787
try hawkwood then, but when I summoned him he got flattened hardcore because he got stuck on the tree.

You can also try the same strategy of getting Oceiros to charge into the tree and get stuck.
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>>174216835
It only takes 5 minutes, too!

Seriously why couldn't we have gotten DaS2 warmth
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>>174216473
Leave me be.
I like it quiet. Leave me be.
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>>174216807
>buff my dancers swords to 1000 AR
>still only does 300-400 damage a normal swing
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>>174216601
good shit
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>>174216663
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>>174216601
You know they fixed this right? It doesn't work.
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>>174216905
try 40/40 int/frth
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>>174216638

And let the feast begin
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>>174216884
I chuckled.
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Okay /dsg/, you're invading.

>it's host + buttbuddy, and 2 blues join the fray
>they're all viciously gunning for you, desperate for a kill (especially the blues)
>you manage to get away, far enough to put on an obscuring ring and have opportunity to hide

Do you:

A. Find a good spot to hide and go afk, do something else, knowing the blues time is completely wasted and the host won't get to refill estus before doing a boss

B. Keep trying to ambush them at different points

C. Black Crystal out

D. Other (please state - inb4 "find another game i'm original for saying this")
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>>174216989
Does not scale man

It's a flat shitty amount
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>>174216979
I really need to update this now that the DLC is out


I also need to make a Demon's Souls one. Infact, fuck it I might just start now.
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Any way to make this look less fucked up? Is it a lost cause?
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>>174216982
>It doesn't work.
It's works
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>>174217009
equip that good 1vX weapon and ambush them and be a total dick
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>>174217009
D. spam carvings and prism stones, go out guns blazing when they catch up
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>>174216884

would be better if he lunged forward at the end

bretty gud tho
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>>174217057
Put the eyes closer together.
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>>174217009
Don't blues get their Concord if the host makes it to the fog gate?

I'd pick B, after blocking the host's buttbuddy. All I need is one good plunging attack or charged R2, and the tables will turn.
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>>174216473
MASTER LOOK, I'VE DONE IT, I'VE DONE IT
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>>174217095
Fuck that's not a bad idea
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>>174217009

Ambush. It's the only way to kill ferocious ganksquads.
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>>174217063
On enemy phantoms? Or on friendly phantoms?
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>>174217009
D. The host ignores me and goes to the boss, giving the blues their concords and me the blue balls.

INVASIONS ARE SAVED, JUST PLAY SMART :^)
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>>174216884
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>>174217009
Keep trying to ambush them at different points, try to find them all distracted and in a tight corridor, proceed to use MORNES BOOMSTICK AND BLOW THEM ALL TO PIECES OR OFF AN EDGE. I would try to do as much damage as possible, loyds sword ring, dragon buff, the usual, then ambush them all and let them gather around as i use Morne's rage to kill them all.
I love it.
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>>174217152
Friendly
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Please help bros
>>174216860

I just need someone to help me transfer the items between characters if you dont want to give them away.
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>>174217193
wasn't morne's nerfed?
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>>174217203
Oh ok.
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>>174217057
I'm not giving that any suggestions until you prove that it's not a guy.
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>>174217174
always that one fucking guy
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>>174216032
I eat spearbabbies alive at ng++. What's your problem?
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Pls assist: >>174216032

this is LITERALLY harder than anything youll do tonight, no shitting you
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>>174216905
Isn't it 24 hp/sec? That's like one minute for 1500 hp
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>>174217095
Want your opinion for a screenshot contest to win a free game. Good positioning and lighting?
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>>174217226
Idk I never noticed it being worse or better. I started using it around the time we were going vicars vult and never stopped.
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>>174217257
I'll come if you don't mind that I die.
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>>174217253
think youre tough?

sign down and try it, I guarantee youll die
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>>174217203
You as an invader can damage host and his phantoms with this?
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>>174217057
You gotta have a correctly proportioned face, you can't just convert an anime waifu directly to a realism based 3D style.

ayy lmao
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>>174217238
that saves the day
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>>174217275
>One minute of standing in one spot never moving
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>>174217304
Fucking badass m8
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>>174217380
It's comfy
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>>174217380
Most of the time they won't be at nearly empty HP anyways, so it won't take a full minute to heal. Plus you can just place it in the back end of an ongoing fight, then they can just roll out and run to the campfire to heal small amounts.
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>>174216884
fresh off the presses
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>>174217223
I can help you transfer if you're on pc
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>>174217540
HOW DO YOU LIKE GIMMICKS, FRIEND
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>>174217540
>To be continued
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>>174217540
why did you cut it
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>>174216473
Hand it over...
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>>174217628
Because afterwards the other guy got up and rekt him
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>>174217174
Nothing more fun than ruining fight clubs back when the game first came out. I loved invading as a red in the pontiff area but I'd get so many fucking fight clubs all the time.
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>>174217703
what rings did he have, bithc?
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>>174217359
No.
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>>174217749
Meh
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>>174217571
Thank you anon. I am on PC.

Put your sign down at the Snowy Mountain Pass bonfire with the password: thanks

Then go to high wall lothric and ill summon you on my other character.
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>>174216473
Finish this quote:
>We Unkindled are worthless. Can't even die right. ...Gives me ___________.
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I just played souls nonstop for like two weeks, and today I was playing and all of a sudden felt disgusted at my NEET ass

I guess that's it. My souls itch has been scratched for now. Who knows when I'll be back again.
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Let's do a contest.

Go to vocaroo and record yourself saying your favorite line from the souls game. Winner will be whoever sounds exactly like it does it game.

Winner will be rewarded the satisfaction of being better than the rest of /dsg/ at something
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>>174216473
O
CE
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTT
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>>174217808
Constipations
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>>174217808
Loathe me all you like...
I shall partake what makes you dragon.
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How do you guys BULLY HOSTS

I'll start with the obvious

>spamming firebombs, knifes, arrows from far away (bonus points for obscuring ring)
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>>174217808
sucker
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>>174217808
Convolutions
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why the fuck do we only get to fight boss enemies that already have a foot in the grave?

Almost every boss doesn't fight at their peak power. They always have been weakened beforehand.
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anyonewant to help me kill gravetender champion dude so I can get my valorheart early? PC, btw
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>>174217608
>>174217628
>>174217703
shitty webm maker cuts it short even though i said not to. either way he rolled our falling attacks and ran away for about 25 seconds afterwards before we killed him
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>host beats a boss for the first time
>with 3(three) phantoms
>doesn't even lay a hit on the boss himself
why do people do this?
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>>174217235
Is the lower curvature of her bosoms convincing enough for you, anon?
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>>174217942
Try playing a different game with a setting that isnt 'everything is terrible and crumbling apart'
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Android updated my os and deleted all my porn bookmarks

I want to die
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>>174217998
AYYYYY lmao
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>>174217996
Sometimes, you really want to fuck up a boss.
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>>174217789
Sign's down
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>>174217998
shit, did i just tab to xcom general?
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>>174217996
My normie friend did this with Dragonslayer Armor on his first playthrough. He got him down to one hit away while trying solo, then he got BTFO and raged so hard that he summoned 3 phantoms.
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>>174217337
Sorry, I'm only talk right now. Can't play from work, you know.
Seriously though, spears get their poise and resists from additional summons. I find it harder to do with summon since they are likely to die some dumb way leaving me with scaled boss. You have a really solid sippy advantage, bad luck if you run into a person with heals.
And yeah, what sl?
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>>174218156
Did he point down at the boss and pop the soul immediately after, because I do that shit sometimes.
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What is the best fashion
Hodrick hood fags need not respond
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>>174217998
no
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>>174217304

saved
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>>174218223
partake head,
harald chest,
wolf knight leggings
maiden gloves


youre gonna like the way you look, i guarantee it
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>>174217998
[ALIEN ACTIVITY]
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>>174217998
MARCIANITO 100% REAL NO FAKE
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Hey what would the stat spread on a pure str build look like?
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>>174215675
Pyro by far. It's nukes hit almost as hard but are much much quicker and much much easier to land.
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>invading post-pontiff
>it's a guy duelling invaders with his precious 30% extra health and double estus
>whatever he's probably shit
>he's lagging like nothing you've seen before
>get hit by hit attacks a full 5sec after he even swings
>suddenly health just disappears
>he claps like he outplayed you
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>>174218367
40 vig, 20 end, 30 vit, 66 str, however much des you need.
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>>174217847
>cat sits in lap
>she starts biting my hand if i try to play game or shitpost
>eventually pick her up and start running around yelling OCELOOOOOOOOOOOOTE
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>>174217369
>>174218064
>>174218118
>>174218315
>>174218345
So, wait, I'm not entirely clear on what you guys are saying, could you spell it out to me?
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>>174218223
Thrall hood with anything
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>>174218092
Thank you lad
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>people complained how lame and gimmicky the archdragon boss fight was
> fromsoft gives us midir
WHAT IS MIDIRS GIMMICK. PLS ANYONE. HOW DOES IT GO FROM EASY FRIEDE TO THAT.
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>>174218558
The gimmick is 'git gud' and 'hit the head like every other fucking draconic enemy in the game'
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>>174218526
No worries, have a nice night
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>>174216423
>why don't poor sorcs just supplement their sorcery with pyromancy?

I did in ds1 and 2 since it either didn't scale or didn't have high faith reqs.
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Best way to farm (You)s on /dsg/?
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>>174218558
>stay close to head
>dodge predictable easy combos BACKWARDS
>hit dragon in face after combo
>repeat

he's really really easy if you do this, just don't ever be too far away/close
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Any PC fags need any help?
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>>174218526
>>174218610
eat shit
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>>174216473
>Finally, I have found it, I have!
>I've done it… I have! Yes, I did it… I did!
i say this in my mind whenever i find sauce on a lewd image
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>>174218635
equip the shitpost ring.
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>>174218635
Complement das2.
Really gets their dicks sotfs.
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Guys, I'm 23, and a bit concerned about my hair.

It's always been super thick and unruly. It's straight, but extremely thick.
These days, and I can't remember when it started, but it's gotten extremely soft. My hair grew out a bit and I know my hair, right now it should be quite poofy still. Yet, right now it is laying flat on my head. I tried washing my hair with hot water and no shampoo, which usually ends up in super poofyness. But nothing. It's soft and limp.

I can actually see my scalp past the hair on my hairline. Am I thinning lads? I have been quite stressed. This just seems so sudden so I don't know if its genetics or really stress. I had to pull out of the school I've been going to and have been feeling pretty terrible about myself.
I just feel like I'm losing control of my life and running out of time and options, and it seems too perfect for my hair to also start losing its life too.
Hold me. I wasn't ready for this.
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>yellowfinger heysel invades
>immediately uses chameleon
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>>174218598
>'hit the head like every other fucking draconic enemy in the game'
Did you even play the game? 2/5 of the dragons are killed from behind
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>>174218635
Link to that shitty hour-long video defending DaS2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRTfcMeqhig
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>>174217540
extended slightly cause i know it'll piss me off if i kept it like that
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>>174215970
Pyro builds in a nutshell are just melee builds that also have access to black flame/serpent. Either that or people play them like a CSS spamming mage, but instead with Vestiges.
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>Host parry hornets instagibbing my sorcerer
>Point down
I don't know why I'm not a hacker at this point, I hate these people so fucking much
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>>174218635
Post a DS3 webm of you 3v1'ing an invader and the pointing down, talk about DS2 PVP being the best, post about Vaati being a lore god and how you watch his videos as soon as they come out.
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>>174218742
Stop stressing over it, it's genetics and out of your control. No sense worrying about something you can't stop
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I will get yelled at, but i need to know this.
Is there a way to complete Dark Souls 1 as human without being invaded by memesters, cheaters and SL1 idiots with endgame stuff?
I'm way too used with DS3 and DS2, i have no idea how to beat this game without being forced to play offline.
I dont mind being invaded, but so far out of 10 invasions 6 were cheaters who instakilled me with some random stuff across the map and 4 of them had endgame bullshit.
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>>174216860
Sent ;p
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>>174218742
have you copy and pasted your post?
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>>174218635
Asking how to get them
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>>174218917
No I genuinely said fuck it and posted here. I know I'm a clown for asking it at all so why bother going to /adv/
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rolling/evading seems to be easier in ds3
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>>174217009
B. But i spawn in with obscure ring already on
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>>174218886
just play offline if you don't want to play online

easy
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>>174218886
It's literally impossible
There's 0 penalty for cheating in ds1
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>>174217009
D.) find Milkwood bow, apply arrow near ledge, reap profit.
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>>174218942
>at vordt
Yeah wait for the Miyazaki special: delayed attacks, endless spinning, and rollcatches for days.
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>>174218871
This. Why bother giving a fuck about something out of your control.

Chicks only care about your dick or if you're fit. Hair is irrelevant
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>>174218942
What new game are you on? Your attacks aren't doing shit.

That or this isn't a NG+ run am I am used to that Deep Axe destroying him.
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>>174218942
It's the easiest it has ever been. People shit on ADP but it would have served DaS3 way better than it ever did DaS2. Way too easy to roll away from or through everything.
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>>174213119
>>174213195
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>>174218993
But i do, but i sure as hell don't want to deal with cheaters.
>>174218997
What the fuck were they thinking, goddamnit.
I had my fair share of cheaters both on DS2 and DS3, but they were so rare you could easily just fuck off as a host killing yourself or crystaling away as a phantom, but in DS1 it's literally a shitfest,
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>>174218942
It's a side-effect of coming after Bloodborne I guess. From really wants you to roll, I guess. I only ever keep a shield on hand in case of bullshit no warning attacks.
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>>174219078
If he's talking about a difference in rolling between DS3 and the others it's probably actually his first run and so he didn't find the mimic with the Deep Axe.
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>>174219087
Adp is bad because dark souls 2 is bad.
Dark souls 2 is bad because a YouTuber told me
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Dried finger way of blue runs are actually pretty fun.
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>>174216032
Still there anon?
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>>174219125
>DON'T WALK NEAR ME OR MY SON EVER AGAIN
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>>174218886
Play offline or restore human form only when you need it, like, at npc invasions or right before bosses.
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>>174218812
Why is your sorc spamming r1?
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>>174218742
git gud
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>>174219169
I really liked dark souls 2. But a YouTuber told me it was bad too, so I don't like it anymore
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>>174219169
DS2 isn't bad per say, more like mediocre and often annoying, but still a Souls game and therefore enjoyable on some level.
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>>174219169
>>174219296
I uninstalled dark souls 2 after a YouTuber told me it was bad ;(
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>>174219126
the game came out in 2011 you stupid fuck they cant police it forever

it wasnt always like this
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>>174218886

I'd recommend playing on PS3 but then I remembered that mules finally proliferated on there towards the end.

You're fucked famalam.
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>>174219340
ds2 was my first souls game, I loved it but never bought the dlc stuff. I then played ds1 and loved the shit out of it even though it looked and played a little rough
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>>174219192
>at npc invasions
Ah right, they can only invade you when you're fucking human.
Fucking bullshit, how do i know they're going to invade me?
Should i just wiki'd it?
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>>174219340
No it's bad. Mattosis couldn't play a passive sword and board style in it therefore the game is bad!!!
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>>174216979
Wew
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>>174219481
Just play offline and blind you literal 12 year old. I can only remember two fucking invasions and 9 times out of 10 you'll be human just by the placement of them.
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Alright, I tried to reduce the grey-alien-ness a bit. Did I succeed?
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>>174216979
llor
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>>174219578
What the fuck is your problem dude, why so fucking upset?
Did someone steal your dark soul?
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>>174219615
Lmao
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>>174219656
Play the fucking game and stop posting about playing the game you god damn ass munching piece of fucking shit.
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>>174219615
looks like chloe moretz after 30
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>>174219615
now she has FAS
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Post your Ashen Ones
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Is there an updated tier list somewhere? Fromsoft makes major balance updates every 2 weeks.
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>>174219503
Wait I'm confused, weren't shields the strongest they ever were in DS2?
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>>174219762
>It's a post a full set and call it fashion episode
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Pie Romancer

you tried
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>>174219729
Tell me anon, who pissed you off?
I'm a good listener.
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So after all the changes, which builds are actually good and worth using now? And any weapons that stand out for them after the patches?
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What NG+ do you guys stay at on your SL120 character? Is there any downside to going to higher NG+ if you're invading?
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>1:37 am
>Still invading
help
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>>174219756
>>174219676
You lot are no help at all.
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>>174219762
Trying to find a lightly armored chestpiece that still looks metallic is tough. Don't wanna use Artorias since >Artorias but it goes nicely for what I want. I really like the black knight gloves too.
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>>174219797
Shields were strongest in das1
Then Des
Then das3
Then das2
Shields were shit in 2 until you got endgame stats and shields
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>>174219894
where, senpai
I'll set up my gank squad to discourage you
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>>174219893
I'm a lowbie using the mail breaker...loving the shit out of it against shielders. I've read it was a shitty weapon whats up with that?
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>>174219875
You seem to have this retarded notion that using profanity and obscene language equates to being angry.

Now go play dark souls, blind and offline and stop being a little bitch about minor things, Fuckface
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>>174219973
I use mail breaker as a side arm. It's shit because its damage and weapon art are mediocre.
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>>174219908

Try firelink chest, It would match the hood of prayer's color too.
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gwyndolins bp
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>>174220009
And you seem pretty upset.
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>>174219615
It's better, but you should look up how human faces are proportioned on average if you really want to understand what goes into making a nice looking face.

Just one example of this is that the corners of the mouth and the mid-point of the eye should be roughly equal.
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>>174219481
Don't worry, they'll appear in offline mode if you're afraid of spoilers. They don't drop anything significant, so it's fine to skip them at first playthroughs.
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>>174219762
My nigga
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If you don't have the dex for the dragonslayer greatbow, can it still knock people over?
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Why this shit exist?
>Dark Longsword
>10 str/dex
>514AR
>1H for best moveset
>good WA
>horizontal swings
>faster
>longer
>R1R1R2
>Parting flame in left hand
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>>174220284
>they'll appear in offline mode
Are you sure about that?
I heard npc invaders in DS1 can only invade you if you're human.
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Guys I'm actually enjoying Dark souls 2. Was it all really just a meme to hate on it? Why did I fall for it
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>>174220440
Cheat engine let's you invaded non humans. Play offline fuckface
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Nameless Knight chestpiece > Elite Knight chestpiece
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>>174220440
Don't mix up offline mode and human form. You can set offline mode in game settings.
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Splitleaf gs or BKG?
Quality build
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>>174219841
>billed mask, iron dragonslayer, dark gauntlets and legs
>karla'a hat, ordained dress, iron bracelets, catarina legs
>alva's helm, lothric plate, faraam gauntlets, iron leggings
>chain coif, morne's plate, assassin's gloves and legs
>evangelist hat, herald armor, sellsword gauntlets, lothrics leggings
>ragged mask, millwood plate, exile gauntlets and leggings

you what now?
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>>174220613
Knight > Alva > nameless > elite > firelink
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>blade of the darkmoon isn't summoning at all
Fuck this, I just want the miracles. This isn't about shitting on reds with unfair fights.
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>>174220718
Farm silver knights or speedrun game and get 2x per ng cycle
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>>174219762
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>>174220438
Because it's cool.
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>>174220718
It is a little bit though, isn't it?
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how do we fix the darkmoon covenant /dsg/?

how do we fix it so you actually get summoned?
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>>174220613
Maybe in DS3.
>Alva chest is literally only like 0.1 heavier than EK chest but with noticeably better stats in almost every way

Shit like this annoys me endlessly.
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>AoA as a sorc
Jesus christ how horrifying. Those fucking wolfpacks.
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>>174220831
Allow us to invade reds with blue eye orb
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>>174220831
Seems to be working just fine for me
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>summon the random Hodrick purple sign for the first time
>he charges through the swamp murdering crabs and angry jesus monsters before dying to a big crab

Holy shit why didn't I try this earlier

This is Demon vs Mimic and Skellys version 2
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>>174220831
>how do we fix the darkmoon covenant /dsg/?

give them blue orbs, no need for 2 covenants doing the same focking thing
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>>174220831
I always liked the whole "Darkmoons invading those with sin" schtick. Invading reds was a guilty pleasure.

>>174220901
Those wolfpacks and the fucking huge viking niggers with the earthquake weapons.
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>>174220783
That'll take me five quintillion years.
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Onyx Blade is such a cool greatsword, i love the aesthetic of it and the blackflame buff seems really nice.

Too bad i can't ever use it cause i have no faith/int.
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>>174220901
>Fighting trash in a souls game
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anyone know how to get DS1 working on windows 10?
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>>174220950
he will shit on r1 spammers
summon him in ng+ for best results
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>>174220438

imagine if you could use a ccs to cast black flame
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>Delete reds from /dsg/
>Delete ds2 apologists from /dsg/

Pick one
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>>174221132
How about I delete safe space pussies like you?
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Dark souls should do away with multiple weapons in a weapon tree and just tweak, refine and make different weapon classes unique. Do the bloodborne approach of quality not quantity.
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>>174221132
>Delete reds from /dsg/
Are you implying you're a carebear?
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>>174221032
nvm, just turn off aa
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>>174220656

SPLITLEAF IS FOR STRENGTH YOU KEEP YOUR FUCKING HANDS OFF OF IT
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>>174221132
>Delete reds from /dsg/
You want another "help me with _____" /bbg/ trash hole?
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>>174221132
Reds whine too much. But ds2 fags are obnoxious...
Hmmm...Hmmm...
I'll go with reds. Get rid of em
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if i want to buff my buffed onyx blade, would i use the dark clutch ring or the fire clutch ring. or maybe both?
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>mfw bloodborne got the silver knight sword and das3 didn't

>mfw bloodborne has a nicer looking sword than the entirety of the rest of the souls games

mfw I have no face
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>>174221223
That shit gets boring though.
>b-but all of X weapon class are boring anyway!
No.
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>>174221295
But what you will discuss then? Best way to grind 666 titanate stacks? Or 6000 ears from silver knights?
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>>174221327
What's not boring about all straight swords being exactly the same?
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>>174221316
Bloodborne has a nicer looking lots of things than the entirety of the rest of the souls games. They really went all out on the textures and models.
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>>174221405
I'd rather have that then bitching about how you couldn't beat a 1v4 and how you wanted a fair fight , or how the host is a bitch for not letting you buff. Or how projected heal is op and etc
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>Tfw a message saves your life

I found this one funny since it would only make sense if you're running down there for Four Kings
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>>174221427
>LHS
>RKSS
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>>174220831
Make invading not so fucking onesided so there's a reason to invade, which makes darkmoon summoning more effective in return.
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>>174221503
Lhs has a stab and rkss is only differentiated by it's WA which was added to ds3 to rectified they all weapons in the same class are the same and boring problem. But WA isn't enough
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>>174221223
Bloodborne weapons are generally especially made for hunters, dark souls weapons are just 'general weapons that are lying around'

It would be difficult to justify dark souls weapons suddenly being restricted, and then seeing enemies using a vast variety of different weapons.

This could be remedied by making the vast majority of enemies beasts (no weapon), and having the few humanoids wield the same weapons as you, or improvised weapons like rocks and sticks, but then it wouldnt really be dark souls.

Not sure if I explained this well, so I'll dotpoint it:
Bloodborne: hunters have specialized tools you can find
Dark Souls: character just picks up whatever generic sword or spear the enemy is using, or was looted from a corpse
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>>174220601
Just sod off, you're being pretty cringy now.
>i swear i'm not 12, i just swear all the time, see i'm not angry hahahaha xddd
>>174220631
Alright ok, but offline mode is ass, i was talking about hollow\human.
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>>174221495
>how you wanted a fair fight
No one want fair fight. Your logic is strange
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>>174221283
Well the problem over there is Bloodborne's invasion system is fucked so all thats left is the organized fight clubs and co-op. What Anon is trying to pull here though is actually hugbox tier.
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>>174221615
I've never seen someone get so mad at being called fuckface. Sorry you can't handle the bants man, you must be new to this general
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>>174220831
Bring back indictment, the book of sinners and blue orbs.
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>>174221615
>you're being pretty cringy now.
you're being pretty cringy now.
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>>174216979
k
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>>174221615
Cringe
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>>174220831

They should've done a Hunter of Hunters thing so that if you're wearing your Dorkmoon covenant you can get summoned into the worlds of Fingers except you're hostile to the host.

Maybe make it like Spear intercepts where people with more than a certain amount of pale tongues on them can have their summon signs hijacked by Dorkmoons.
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>>174221615
Again, if you're human in offline, mode npc invaders will still work.
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>>174221670
>it was just banter mate eks dee eks dee welcome to /dsg/
>>174221703
>>174221729
>samefagging this hard to prove a point
Jesus christ dude, stop giving this bad general a bad look.
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>>174221661
I mean /bbg/ was great in "BB time". Now it's filled with delusional retards, newfags and autistic fanboys.
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>>174221661
>Removing the whiniest members of this community who's been bitching about PvP since day 1 means you want a hugbox
LOL
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>>174219340
>acts like an autistic who thinks he's intellectual
> can't spell per se right
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>>174221767
>cant get invaded by legit players
>can't see messages
>can't see bloodstains by shitters
>can't invade other players
>can't see phantoms

Wow, sure sounds fun laddie.
Offline mode is babbymode, i just want cheaters to fuck off.
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>>174221814
>playing dark souls
>not even invading every once in a while
i fucking hate you
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>>174221795
So new, you accuse me of samefagging. Thanks for the one (1) (You) though fuckface. Hope you enjoy dark souls
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>>174221881
I think pvpwatchdog actually has a feature to detect cheaters and boot them? I forgot. Give it a look anyway.
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>>174221814
>members of this community
>community
Jesus Christ. Are you from discord kid or something?
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>>174221564
>Lhs has a stab and rkss is only differentiated by it's WA
And? Even if you only take those two into account its still two more choices than BB gives you.
>But WA isn't enough
Your opinion.

For BB it was fine because it was a mostly pve focused game, but one with better pvp like dark souls needs options man. If they did it the same as BB everyone would be using the same 2 meta weapons out of the 12 they put in every fucking duel.
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>>174220831
It works relatively well as long as there is enough people with way of blue equipped.
Unsummon timer would be nice. Or area invasions triggering police.
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>>174221887
You can invade and not be a little bitch my man, you know what I do when I lose to a 1v4 gank? I chalk it up as a loss and try better on the next to round. You know what you do? You bitch about it
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>>174221893
>heh he looks angry because i called him a fuckface, gonna do it again for the lulz, there is nothing he can do about it ahaha i'm a master troler :D
This website is 18+
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>at Champion Gundyr
>see a Tarkus cosplayer
>summon him
>he kicks Gundyr's arse just like the original would
Old Tarkus would be proud, B. Iron Tarkus.
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>>174221980
and you call me an invader but you are not? you say all reds bitch?
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>>174221962
>If they did it the same as BB everyone would be using the same 2 meta weapons out of the 12 they put in every fucking duel.
irony
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>>174221945
That shit stopped working a long ago, and eur0pa is a blithering idiot.
Not to mention that it's completely incompatible with DSCM
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What's some good fashion to go with the Preacher's Head? I want to go full locust.
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>>174221984
You're getting worked over one word, I've been answering your questions about dark souls and you got your panties twisted over some profanity, got mad I didn't take your "lolumad" bait and are now sperging out. Then throw the age card despite you being the only one upset about some big boy words. Are you going to go play the game or keep bitching fuckface?
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>>174221575

This is one of the things I really loved about BB's world, that all your weapons are professional tools. I liked that whole aspect of things, that there's the hunt and then there's also sitting in your workshop figuring shit out to use on your next hunt. And every hunter and clan of hunters has their own custom-styled tools and loadout to accommodate their particular methods and the specific prey that they hunt. Even if their particular methods aren't any good really, like Henryk and his throwing knives.
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Is there any way to make bows viable in PvP?
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>>174221945
Yeah i know about that, i thought it was discontinued\doesn't work anymore.
Thanks anon, gonna definitely take a look.
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>>174221661

Can't wait for Return to Yharnam.
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>>174221984
>>174222073
>YOU'RE SPERGING OUT
>NO YOU'RE SPERGING OUT
>NO YOU
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>>174221870
delete this
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>>174222034
What irony? There's a lot more than two and even then not everyone is a meta cunt because we have options.
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>>174221980
Why you cares? Your subculture war is pointless. Keep farming silver knights and bitching about Midir.
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>>174222032
If you don't think invaders bitch then you've been selectively ignoring their posts since game launch
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>>174222130
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>>174222150
if you don't think everyone bitches then you're living in a fantasy world
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>>174222137
>not everyone is a meta cunt because we have options.
Same for BB.
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take caution fellow aldrichs, this madman is on the loose and he shows no mercy
>>
I wish we could've had the handmaid's robes, they look comfy as fuck. Just look at those knitted sleeves!
>>
Euro dsg is more insufferable than American dsg. I've made a mistake staying up

These generals should go on lockdown after 12:00 am CST until you eurocunts learn how to behave
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>>174222083
It's pretty neat. The setting lends to a more tight weapons system.

Though I must admit, I do enjoy the 'you see that bigass sword, well, kill the guy and take it' approach to dark souls weapons. It's satisfying in its own way. It's a shame the actual capability of weapon classes suffer as a result though.

In a perfect world FROM would have infinite time to make both lots of neat looking weapons, and unique appropriate skills and movesets for them. WA were a step forward, at least.

>>174222106
My mistake, the anon above corrected me. Haven't looked into dark souls modding in years.
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Imagine yourself to be an honobru japanese game developer employed by Miyazaki. Now, how do you fix the Farron Greatsword without compromising Miyazaki's unquestionably perfect nihon vision?
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>>174221945
yea, nah
doesn't work for some time now
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>>174222268
weak bait
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>>174222226
>BB
>options
>BB
>online
kek
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>>174221945
It also false flags people and is horribly out of date
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>>174222340
???
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>>174222305
MAKE THE ENTIRE WA ANIMATION INVINCIBILITY FRAMES
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>>174222305
I give all GS Gaels weapon art.
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>>174222271

Weapon arts are the only thing that makes Dark Souls weaponry tolerable after having played BB.

Loving the Crucifix currently, the WA lotto is very fun.

>>174222305

What about it needs fixing? I think the only thing I'd want to change is removing the parry and putting in even more flippy stuff for the WA, but a parry is a fine thing for that sword to have too.
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What's everybody's opinions on Sunbros and white phantoms?

On the one hand, people really should play through the game by themselves in order to get the true Dark Souls experience, getting better so that they actually feel a sense of accomplishment in their victory. Summoning a party of phantoms to help you clear the area, or to kill the boss, trivializes most of the game outside of Midir, and one could argue that doing so is a disservice to the host.

On the other hand, someone who summons help might be doing so as a last resort, as it may indicate that they're otherwise unable to progress, and may stop playing altogether. If you help a random player through a tough spot, then it encourages them to continue on through the game and maybe even try again by themselves in the future. This is beneficial to the game overall since it maintains the size of the player base and keeps the game alive for longer.

After doing a bit of random Sunbro-ing, I've come to the opinion that they are a sort of necessary evil in this game. As someone whose PvP experience was mainly invading, I've always taken a dim view of people who need phantoms to help them. It was a bit enlightening to be able to lend other people a hand for once.
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>>174222305
Make it's l1 unparryable.
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>>174222418
>parrying with invincibility frames
I rike it. Next carribration I poosh out.
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>itt waah reds
>Waaaahhhh waah reds
>Muh bloodborne
>Hold my hands and teach me dark souls
>I'm contrarian and like 2
>I'm edgy
>Ayyyy lmao
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>>174222516
wow nice post you fuckface
you surely told us
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>>174222469
just like everything in the souls series, it's lost it's touch
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*casts second chance*
*Eats spice*
*Applys turpentine*
*Casts warding*

Let's go /dsg/
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it's okay when the a-team does it
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>>174222469

I generally feel the same way, some people need a handicap. I don't have a problem with hosts having summons or even only invading hosts with summons, I just want the field to be balanced such that I'm a legitimate threat instead of a target to be run down.

I think what would be great for the online is if the embers were much rarer and you had to do some kind of online to get more, would encourage more co-op, but eh.
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>>174222542
Stop saying fuckface reeeeeeee
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>>174222608
>running past enemies
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>>174222608
nice damage you wimp lmao
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>>174222591
*running firestorm*
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>>174222608
>i cant roll properly
>blames the devs
like potteru
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>>174222714
This could be applied to das2 complaints
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>>174222608
Baka gaijin. The deepest lore permit the knight to tereport behind u.
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>>174222591
*i knock on the door*

its me goku
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>>174219762
well ok, but only if people criticize the shit out of my aesthetics
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>>174222591
Only 2k9 dsg will get this
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>>>/d/7363279
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>>174222804
every single one of them looks completely hideous
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>>174222853
Thank you friend, now I can sleep soundly
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>one-handed black knight sword
>rolling R2 gives them a BIG BLACK THRUST
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>>174222804
The gauntlets and leggings on the top rightmost one don't match at all.

>>174222853
Not an argument
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>>174222469
>someone who summons help might be doing so as a last resort, as it may indicate that they're otherwise unable to progress, and may stop playing altogether

Do you really believe it? Those type of people are in minority. 90% of hosts are worthless scum like in any other online games. You can see their true nature in any "team based" pvp games with chat
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>>174222804
i love the variety
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>>174222892
>brainlets
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Hello is best carving
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>>174222804
>point down

Stopped viewing there.
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>>174222917
Very good!
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>>174222804
those all look like shit
now rate mine
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>>174222939
Im sorry...
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>>174219762
got more but im lazy
maybe next week
will stop reposting this untill then
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>>174222935
>I ban him
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>>174222952
nice cock
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>tfw you only care for sl1/bl4 speedrun now
I'm afraid I've gone hollow
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>>174222952
Fashion forward/10
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>>174222917
>always spam hello and thank you when i get summoned as sunbro to kill a boss
>drop an ember as well for the host after a succesful kill
>g-grossly i-incandescent
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>>174222469
I hate it, this series needs to go back to it's single player roots.

keep the messages/bloodstains/ghosts though.
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>>174223115
This
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>>174222907
t. Not Important
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>>174223183
Names are for friends, so I don't need one.
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>>174223183
4chan is not facebook, right?
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>Holy Knight Hodrick summoned
>not 4 seconds later
Based.
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>>174223361
Do you actually get anything from summoning Hodrick there?
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>DaS3 has been out for more than a year
>You still can find Patches in firelink shrine even if you didn't see him before
>He's apologetic even though you didn't get tricked
Why are questlines so shit in 3?
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is this better?? what the fuck am i doing..
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>finally killed that bastard Oceiros on my sorc
>consider just eating his soul out of spite
So is the Moonlight Greatsword any good at all with minimum physical stats? Is White Dragon Breath worth it?
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>>174216316
>You still need all those rings
BRUH
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>>174223332
The game could really benefit from a 150% increase in stamina cost in rolling.
Or make it cumulative costs for spamming like in DaS2
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>>174223434
Use the Astora Straight Sword. It has good faith scaling
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>>174223416
An expensive taxi ride back to the last bonfire.
I don't think so. I like to think From put him there to help people fight off watchdogs.
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>>174222804
I can commend you on being brave enough to post this.
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>>174223475
nth for DS2 had the best PvP mechanics.
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>>174222804
you stole my style you wiener
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>>174223475
https://gifsound.com/?webm=https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1492415875295&v=iRZ2Sh5-XuM&s=11
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>>174221887
>caring about imbalanced pvp in a game with worse netcode than soul Calibur 2

W E W
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>>174223608
Thank you.
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>>174222917
Help! Me!
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>>174222804
That viking-like horned guy looks pretty good
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>>174223662
Invading isn't serious PvP. Invading is fun. Fun things are fun.
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>>174223905
DELET THIS
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>>174223905
wait whut
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>>174223905
what
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>>174223905
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>>174223905
So many fags in the forest have been running to the ladder in the last 3 days, just to spend 10 minutes sitting there ladder alone because they can't risk spending a single ember.
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>>174223476
blessed? Or Lightning?
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>>174222151
For this guy who wanted to start PvP. Here's a basic Faith PvP build for you:
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/176108
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I know this might be asking for a bit much, but would anyone happen to have a spare Holy Sword of Lothric...? I have a new character and wanna do a faith build.
I am on PS4...
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I unironically hate the fact that password summons are a thing in these games. Miyazaki talked a lot of shit about how summoning is this thing where you get helped by some random stranger, but I don't really see how that's reflected in the current implementation of a downscaled passworded havelmonster.
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>>174224206
Because some people want to play with their friends or organize events, and it's almost impossible to do that without a password system.
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>>174224206
Same. It's awful mechanic.
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>>174224260

But surely there are things that people would want that they can't have.
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>>174224206
>>174224260
Should have locked it until NG+ or something.
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>>174224367
There are plenty of things I wanted in DaS3 that I did not get

I'm sure Memezaki wanted nonshit covenants but we didn't get that
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>Tfw
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>>174224442
>hey ashen one
>fuck you
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>>174224260
I think the god ring in DaSII was good enough at doing that, without being completely broken like the passwords in BB and 3. Should have just made it a covenant item instead of a ring or something and it would have been perfect for das3.
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Why are Blueberries almost always shit? What is it about the covenant that attracts 90% R1 spamming retards that don't even save stamina for a roll?

I'm not salty at all, I love collecting Blue Tongues, it's just such a strange phenomenon. I often get invaded by people who know what they're doing, but I've very rarely had to do much at all to get a blueberry out of my way.
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>>174224584
>What is it about the covenant that attracts 90% R1 spamming retards that don't even save stamina for a roll?
Cheevos
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>>174224584
They get summoned so rarely that when they do they're desperate for ears.
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>trying out some aldrich pvp
>40% chance it's some autistic kid using hidden body hiding somewhere
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>>174224771
just like my iron memeapple videos :D! you just got trolled lol :)
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>>174223905
OUTSKILLED

i only know this because of jap streamers
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>>174224607
>>174224670
I've been in this host's world for ages now just farming blues, it's incredible how bad they are.

Even ones using meme builds like the REEEE staff are bad
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>>174224848
recommend some pvp streams/channels
nico/youtube
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>>174224937
infernoplus
iron pineapple
young maestro

the list goes on
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>>174224584
Anecdotal bullshit.

Why is it every invader is an estus guzzling shitlord that runs halfway across the area map the second he takes any damage? I thought reds where gud

That's a lie, i never thought they were good
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>>174225002
>jap streamers
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>>174224937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpJocr4e_kY

god tier freeaim fireballs. too bad he quit ds3 to shit it up in for honor
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>>174224584

I think it's because a large number of them are platinum trophy people who just can't stomach farming silver knights, but aren't particularly interested in or skilled at PvP. They wouldn't be doing it if it weren't for DMB and the ring.
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>>174225004
i said almost always, i'm sure you're the best blue ever

even so it's been 7 blues in this host's world so far and they've all been shit
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>>174225004
i can vouch for him

i'd say about 90% of the time, a blueberry never rolls. 90% of the time i do a turn-around stabbing attack while their chasing me, it hits them.
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>>174225135
my god yes the turning around attack when they're mindlessly chasing you
you can whittle multiple people down so easily with this before they finally catch on
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>>174224771
>run past two doggos in post-pontiff
>quit game and restart to reset agro
>curl up in corner with obsuring ring
>put on way of the blue
>watch tv while I get free souls from blue and red cucks
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>>174225102
Trophy theory definitely makes sense, thanks anon
Also what might be a contributing factor is that bad PVPers would be less likely to want to invade (where it's potentially 1v4) but wouldn't mind PVP when it's 4v1
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>>174222469
>start playing 3
>holy shit the crow trades are simple now
>do fat solaire cosplay since cleric/knight hybrid build

>drop sign on closest bonfire to fog wall
>have to carry the host to boss and host will likely die to boss
>only fun part is killing invaders and even then I feel bad because invader is dead before the boys in blue even materialize

>drop sign by fog wall
>host is competent 80% of the time unless they're trailing like two other summons


I just stopped dropping my sign at Bonfires desu

It's mindboggling that they somehow made being a Darkmoon worse than DS1 and THEY DIDN'T EVEN BRING BACK RAVELORDING.

>>174225004
This
I'm honestly saddened by the caliber of reds in 3.
Started playing recently (as far as Farron) and I've only encountered two who didn't sippy n'run the second they could.
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REEEEEEE

WHY DOES THE ONE COVENANT THAT NEVER GETS SUMMONED HAVE TO DROP THE RING WHICH GIVES +2 ATTUNEMENT SLOTS
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>>174225404
>implying any of the mage builds have the room for such a frivolous ring
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>>174225404
I have one Proof.
I have been summoned once in three hours.
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>>174225386
Why do people complain about sippies? Invasions aren't duels.
You got twice what he's got so just take your time, if he's so bad you'll punch his shit in again and send him running.
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>>174225404
Why you need one of most useless rings in game?
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>>174225546
I guess I'm just old school.
Never sippy unless it's at least 2v1.
>>
FOOLISHNESS
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>>174225618
its practically necessary for magic hybrid build
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>>174223476
no it doesn't
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>>174216473
"I've seen your kind, time and time again.
Every fleeing man must be caught. Every secret must be unearthed.
Such is the conceit of the self-proclaimed seeker of truth.
But in the end, you lack the stomach.
For the agony you'll bring upon yourself..."

It's edgy, but I love Vilheim voice, it's so fucking sexy I could make sweet love to it

Also every Ariandel dialogue, especially his scream when Friede die
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>>174220701
Lapp > everything else
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>>174225706
MAEK PASTE
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>make faithbro
>will never ever get Darkmoon Blade buff
at least I have sunlight blade and dark blade, r-right
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How the FUCK do I beat this guy? It's literally impossible after he splits.
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>>174225497
Did you try refreshing the covenant by taking out the badge and putting it on again every now and then? It really does help. I got my 30 concords in two or three days this way.
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>>174225713
>magic hybrid build
You're free frag.
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>Finally get lightning arrow
>It does fuck all damage and still takes a long time to cast

Did I get memed
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How fun is a silvercat ring + slumbering dragoncrest ninja build?
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>>174225871
english please
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>>174216473

>Oh, yes, you may call me Shalquoir. Enchanté.
>Ooh, you smell wonderful. Hee hee hee…
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wew totally didn't expect that damage
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>>174225880
maybe
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>>174225912
pretty fun desu
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>>174225818
If melee build: it takes a lot of patience
If magic build: lmaoing @ ur life if you keep dying, darklurker is piss weak to all kinds of magic bar dark
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>>174225880

What's your loadout?
>>
>Peeve's latest build is SL248
really makes you think
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>>174225845
Yup.
Still nothing...
Going on four hours.
>>
Post your best Fashion Souls
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>>174225981
>>174225818

If you have magic you can cheese him real hard with Vow of Silence.
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>>174225941

Must have some damage penalty rings.
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>>174226047
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>>174225936
Well, how you supposed to make magic hybrid build in game where you need two rings for every magic school, sage ring for cast speed and 60 point in magic stat? In game where even perfect magic build suck against pure 66STR or quality?
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>>174226047
Loving this fashion desu. It looks so comfy.
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>>174226141
>40 int, 1 damage ring
>muh viability
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>>174216979
going
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>>174222307

You don't understand what the watchdog does.
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>>174226187

you've posted it twice

but it does look nice
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>>174226242
>free frag
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is there any point in a caster capping its att at 35? or is 30 enough?
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>>174216979
>implying I'm going to make this build
>>
Anyone play on the EU DeS servers and can spare a pure bladestone or pure darkmoonstone?
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>>174217009
White branch and hide
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>>174226141
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/176135

it's not hard

in fact magic hybrids are great now because none of the qualityfags know how to deal with any of it from not seeing any magic since launch
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>>174226047
I posted it plenty of times but I'll just do it again
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>>174226503
>no sage
stop
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>>174219615
It's Maisie fucking Williams

Guess you need to go for an estoc dex build now
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>>174226559
with 40 dex you don't need a sage ring
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>>174226435
>pure bladestone
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>>174226641
>Host that actually tries to fight back

man i dream of this

i was down there once with another faithful trying to kill a host for literally ten minutes. it was painful.

been the same shit in the ringed swamp if they're fingered and you and the other red manage to kill the phantoms, you then get treated to an eternity of the roll n' chug.
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>>174226637
first laugh of the night anon ty
>>
since when did they change the stance r2 follow up attack? when you used it one handed with a weapon art shield or bare fists you could combo with a second hit because it was the second attack from the R1R1 combo, now it goes from stance R2 into the first R1 and can't combo because it's 6~7 frames slower.
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>>174226503
>40 int
>but 39 end
Nah. Miracles are better for buffing (crucifix, murky scythe) if you're going melee.
At least try some A or S dex weapon since you've capped dex.
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Gael has such cool things going on for him
>if he grabs you in first phase he can send you rolling all across the ash dunes
>that fucking third phase combo incorporating crossbow shot
>can teleport via white sign
>he can get hit by lighting falling down into the holes his skulls leave on the ground, it will just deal 1 damage because it's probably not his ability but rather world itself reacting on his crazy power
I love this boss so much.
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>>174226892
its not a serious build. just a proof of concept because that anon thinks any magic makes a shit build.
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>>174226897

The range on his impale in the first phase is pretty damn impressive. I guess it matches his huge-ass arena.

That was the biggest surprise to me, that the entire fucking area is his boss room.
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Quick! Your friend who has an uncle who works at FROM finally convinced him to officially add boss invasions as a new Mound-Makers covenant reward, but only if your friend could figure out a way to balance it so it isn't completely terrible for hosts.

He suggested that when a purple enters the boss fog, they gain a passive Skull Ring effect, but his uncle said that wasn't enough. What else can you think of to make boss invading cool, but fair?
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>>174221132
>delete reds
is this you?
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>>174226964
Host instantly wins the battle if I boss invade as purple. I think that's fair enough for miyazaki.
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>>174226897
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>>174221132
>getting buttmad over invasions


what the fuck happened to my /dsg/
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>>174226926
But that build would suck because lel not enough damage, since most scaling is in 40-60 int. Never go half-retard.
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>>174226964
All grabs have an intense magnetism towards the purple
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>>174226974
lol
Is he just trying to light the bonfire or get to the summon signs?
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>>174226964

You can only do it if you get summoned via a purple sign, you can't do it if you get into a world via the Red Eye Orb. That way the host has to consent to having an absolute madman in his world before it's possible for him to get ganked in the boss room.
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>>174227079
Trying to get to the summon signs.
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>>174219125
wait what whats that moveset
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>>174216473
Seek strength. The rest will follow

I consider ds2 to be the weaker of the 3 entries but the content of this, as well as the way it's delivered, distills all what dark souls means to me.
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>>174227024
I wish we could modify boss health and respawn them or fight them in some sort of arena. I'd fight this guy and the abyss watchers forever if I could.
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>>174227112

...come to think of it, that is pretty good.
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>>174227085
so it will never happen then

>>174227058
i can't tell if you're sarcastically shitposting or you just really don't understand what a hybrid build is
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>>174227085
I never noticed how much that guy looks like Robbie Rotten.
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>>174226964
Purple can't be directly targeted by the boss, nor can he damage him, but the boss's attacks can hit the purple for double normal damage.
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Any table out there with the new dex scalings? l read now it increases at high levels
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>>174227134
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>>174227179
mugen is updated
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>>174216473
The world began without knowledge
And without knowledge will it end
Dost this not ring clear and true ?
Fear not the dark my friend
And let the feast begin
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>Add dragon covenant
>Ranking up makes the stones do way better damage and better resists for dragon form
>Covenant summons you during the ancient wyvern boss fight. The more phantoms the host has, the more plunging attacks required to kill the wyvern.
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>>174227132

Actually I think it wouldn't be too uncommon because there's a general dearth of summons; I could see a host getting into a situation where they're desperate enough to summon a purple.

It would really depend on purples though. If at least a few of them actually helped out with bosses it would seem like a good risk sometimes, otherwise it would never happen.

As far as this goes though, I think the real fix would be to make the Spear bossfight better.
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>>174227048
Nothing wrong with invaders but all this whining is really annoying
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>>174227214
Beautiful shitpost
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>125SL police
Fastroll and 40vig/end. Second blue coming after 15 sec. One invader. Thanks From.
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>>174227249

That'd be super fun.
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How do I improve this build /dsg/?
>inb4 no Morne's Ring
>inb4 using Morne's GH with lmaonopoise

Idk if pyro is the best choice as starting class but I don't feel like making a new char from scratch
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>>174227234
Checking it now, thanks
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>>174226326
*confusingly scratches head*
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>>174227274
Whining about pve is annoing.
>muh Midir
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Full strength, full Dex or quality? Are faith buffs good?
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>2 resummons and 3 blue phantoms later
>you get that perfect moment of synergy with your fellow redbro to take the host out
>2 bluebabs forced to watch their host die
Invading is too much fun right now, I wish they'd have changed it earlier.
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>Running up to Ancient Wyvern
>There's a yellow sign in front of the boss fog

For Ancient Wyvern? What is he even planning on doing in there?

Should I summon him?
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>>174227316
you realize that the 125 sl is just becouse of the faggots that go 5 levels beyond becouse of the yoel quest right
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>>174227356

Yes, no, yes and yes.

I know Sharp got buffed but I still feel like Dex builds are shit.
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>>174227369
Distracting the chain guy
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>>174227356
All of those are GOAT now.
Dex is just forced to play with relatively boring things aside from quills and frayed blade.
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>>174227301
Wouldn't be surprised if that was their plan but they scrapped it along the way due to time constraints or something else. Then they revisited the old monk covenant idea again in TRC.
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>>174227132
I do understand.
I'm telling you int hybrid needs either cmv and proper weapon/maxed spellbuff (40/60) or a good infused weapon for dex/int (40/40). I have no idea what's good for latter.
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>>174227356
dex is garbage

rest are good
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>>174227378
Instead of pointing out useless shit, how about you tell me if there's any major flaws in this build?
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>>174227401
sharp got hella buffed though. there are quality weapons that get better ar from sharp now.
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>start a new character
>rush dark hand
>early game instantly becomes 10 times more bearable
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>>174227401
Never really played Dex build except for BB. Then I just felt like I missed out on all the cool str weapons. Guess I'm gonna go paladin next build then. Str with supplementary faith.
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>>174227369
Easy sunlight medals.
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>>174227356
Strength is fucking great now, almost OP with how good ultras are. Dex is boring as shit besides the frayed blade/scythe/sellsword + wolf knight curved sword combo. Quality is finally no longer the obvious choice for 60% of weapons in the game.
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>Immolation Tinder doesn't cast pyromancies

y tho
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>>174225954
why the bellvine and not yorshkas?
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>>174227507
>tfw finishing off a boss with the charged R2
We Saitama now
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>>174227356
Full str/dex is to use less weapons that deal more damage, while quality lets you use many more weapons but some will deal less dmg. Faith buffs are useless except for Crucifix and SSS
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>>174227513
>playing dex in BB
The one game where str is actually good
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>>174227525
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nUNgXA-SnYFEClTkvcui-X1JBgjpsvDbVJrqVIdo98U/edit#gid=357720482

There's plenty of sharp weapons now.
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>>174227532
it has an inherent sage ring effect. he's got 2 different talismans for staggering 2 different cast times
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>>174227491
kys make it a 120 build and l might tell you some things faglord thanks to morons like you there are 130 sl fags now
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>>174227557
Not really useless. It's just weapons you named getting ridiculous ar.
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>>174227407
>>174227524

he died while i was dashing through
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>>174227589
5 levels is big advantage for 120SL lmao.
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>>174227369
maybe he can 2 shot him with sunlight spear

>>174227532
free sage+2 for my talisman casting
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>>174223885
But you're complaining about people not wanting to participate in shit pvp
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>>174227648

If you're not getting ridic AR why play faith though?
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>>174227589
>kys
Nice argument you turbo autist, just pretend I took off 5 points from either vig or end
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>>174227723
>Everyone on 4chan is the same person
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>warmth takes two slots
Fuck you From
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>when you get Pontiff down to one sliver of health and hitbox shenanigans means you dont kill him, then you die
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>Ludleth is a small, shriveled figure sitting inside a massive throne he can never hope to properly fill, yet maintains that he will 'die a colossus'.
>Aldrich is an otherworldly terrifying abomination that is loosely linked with the sea via the Deep
>Yhorm is very similar to the giants of Dark Souls 2, and feels almost like a callback to the Giant Lord
>Undead Farron Legion are basically the Artorias fan club
>The twin princes reside atop a staircase that is very similar to the ascent to Penetrator fight, and to get there requires you to return to where it all started: Lothric.

five lords
five thrones
five games
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>>174227792
>25FAI
my sides, why have a risky alternative to heal at that point.
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>>174227792
>carthus beacon
>12/12, 2 slots, only lasts 15 seconds
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>>174227708
Read >>174227378 becouse of the stupid yoel thing now everyone starts making 125 builds like this retard over here >>174227316 . Guess what's going to happen next? That's right, +5 levels becouse of Yoel, people start making 130 SL builds to equalize and so far and so forth
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>>174227816
might summon after that shitty fight desu
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>>174227894
easy enough with an NPC
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>>174223905
what build is this, pure pyro?
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>>174227753
You know, like, trying different flavours. I'm willing to trade about 100 ar for different moveset, considering anything past 800 ar is two-three shot monsters.
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>>174227894
Might as well summon if only to get the gestures from Gotthard and the Pale Shade.
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>>174227863
I play at SL132 and still get matched with you autistic SL120 ass. I hope you don't mind my free 18 points in flat defense I have over you :^)
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>He hasn't realized the true meta is SL35 at the Woods
Fucking casuals
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>>174215506
>tfw you will never have Ciaran leap on you, take your Abyss Greatsword to the hilt, and leglock for good measure
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>>174228081
the true meta is sl6 dark hand only
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>>174228081
Some of us are good enough to invade the woods and pontiff's gank city at actual SL's. You do you though.
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>>174228081
I fucking hate estoc users though
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>>174216884
*record scratch*
You're probably wondering how i got into this situation
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>>174228183
wow good one dude
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Dragging hosts through the entire Ringed City is so much fun.
Bless the Seed nerf.
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>>174227316
Another faggy faith build. Gj.
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>>174228081
>''''low level build''''''
>starting point is all +3 rings
No thanks m8
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>>174228081
Someone of us don't need crutches like twinking or friend covenant invaders.
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How shit is the Crescent Moon Sword for a typical 60+ int sorc build?
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>>174227863
>now everyone starts making 125
>125
>now

ignorant memer. only darkiddies think 120 was ever a hard and fast rule. It used to be, people played "around" 120. Because in DeS, every time you died in a red sign duel, you lost a level, in reality people played everywhere between about 105 and 135-ish, but the general concensus was to go to "about 120" so the PvP community referred to itself as the SL 120 PvP community.

Anyways, the DeS PvP community liked tournaments, and they wanted them to be fair, so they had to settle on a level. Outside of tournaments, nobody really cared if you were 110 or 120 or 135 or whatever the fuck, but in tournaments they wanted to have a hardcap on how high you could level so that it was 100% fair. They settled on 125 (fun historical note: 125 was picked basically because it's what dex builds needed to softcap everything).

This was back in, like, 2010.

People doing SL 125 PvP, still used to the phrase "SL 120 PvP community" continued using it, as they always had, with the understanding between everybody involved in the community that it was really SL 125 if they were playing in a serious tournament, and were otherwise "about 120."

Except that when Dark Souls came out and the community exploded, new players heard the term "SL 120 PvP' and (incorrectly [but understandably]) believed that meant that the level you were supposed to go to was 120.

120 was never anything more than a general guideline. 125 was always the thing to be at if you wanted to be anal about level caps.

tl;dr reeeeeee newfags
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>>174228339
not as shit as it used to be, but still very shit.
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>start a mad hollow build
>no cracked round shield
Gaaaaay

Next best thing? Normal round shield? I already have a build with the plank shield so I'd rather not use that,
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>>174228386
Dang. Any suggestions on sidearm that isn't a pokey rapier?
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>>174228349
Lol. Things change faggot. No one cares about your autistic adventures from Demon souls.
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>>174228081
get off it, dude
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Why can't we scale the price of level ups based on the stat you're trying to level up?

It's stupid having to spend 20000 souls leveling a stat up from 8 to 9
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>>174227717
Gael's crossbow with lightning bolts completely destroys king of the storm

Too bad it's shit for everything else
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My micro USB cable died and now I can't play :(
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>>174228162
>>174228167
>>174228169
>>174228183
>>174228261
>>174228331
>>174228514
He's right though, meta should be much lower
>actually have to put thought into where your points go
>builds actually stop leveling traits at specific places
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>>174228538
plan your build and level the small bits first
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>>174228081
>People unironically assume by SL 35 i meant that you CE in +3 rings and end game weapons
>People unironically assume PC is the best way to play a Soulsborne game
Fucking casuals
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>>174228389
offhand torch
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>>174228538
Hit your softcaps first while leveling
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>controller stops responding while you're fucking with a shitter
>he kills you
>waves like he's actually good
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>>174228590
Fucking lol if you think low level is anything else other than stacking VIG and using the best raw weapons.
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>>174228590
>actually have to put thought into where your points go

Only true because no build standards have been created by having the entire community making builds at that level. I guarantee you if the entire PvP community played at SL 60, you'd have to put more thought into creating a SL 125 build than a SL 60 one.

People try to find whatever the most optimal stuff is in whatever conditions they're playing under. And when you have lots of people working on the same problem, you make better progress.
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>>174216473
A LIE

WILL REMAIN

A LIE

shit game tho
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>>174228709
But i thought /dsg/s definition of twinking was stacking VIG and using raw weapons..
Are you saying all low level PvP is twinks?
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Reminder that From STILL hasn't fixed the Estoc slashing and the Rapier only stabbing.
Still you hit the ground like a retard with fragile weapons likes katanas
Hollowslayer and DBGS are still the only gswords that resemble actual gsword fighting
At least they fixed most curved swords being better 2handed
>>174227356
Seek STR. The rest will follow
>>174227507
Is it that good? I've never used it because I just can't go for the LoH questline. It feels so wrong. EoF a best.
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>>174228590
>>174228709

If anything it should probably be a little higher so casters can meet weapon requirements with a little more ease, 130-140 maybe. Physical builds can just spend the extra points in vit.
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>>174228590
despite getting a (you), I agree.
>magic in general gets weaker as people get better armour
>lowering the highest meta means a larger player population since it's more "dense"
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>>174216473
Bear seek seek lest
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>>174228871
The real advantage twinks have are rings and better estus. Stacking VIG and using raw weapons just happens to be optimal for low levels.
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>>174216473
>They failed me. Every last one of them. They were strong, but saw not the truth. I am sure you will prove different.

>>174227112
Dark Souls 2 desu has some very strong quotes.
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>>174228708
>brother fighting midir on ps4
>go to watch
>accidentally sit on the remote and change the channel
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is it worth getting a controller for playing on pc?
sometimes I get the feeling that keyboard mouse fucks me over
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>>174228997
I'm gonna kill you, you prick
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>>174228873
>Hollowslayer and DBGS are still the only gswords that resemble actual gsword fighting

well from the size these should really fight more like real-life longswords, montante style spinning is what you should be doing with the zweihander and other reasonably sized UGS class swords. straight swords are all more like arming swords even though one's called a "longsword."

i guess if you were going to recast with realism in mind you'd want an arming sword class, a longsword class, a greatsword class and an anime-slab bearing sword class.
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>>174229006
Playing with kb isn't impossible at all but if you just can't get good then buy a controller.
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>>174227973

Yeah it's just a pyro build with Lightning Arrow for the hyper armor on Black Flame. And Force because why the fuck not, if you're invading Force is amazing.
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>>174227589
>120
>build
???
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B-bring i-it on b-blues, I'm the justice in this house!
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>>174227112
Based Vendrick. l loved this quote too(and basically all his dialogue)
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>>174216473
>May light shine upon our Lord and our proud Boletaria!
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>>174229006
Which game? I played ds1 on PC and the k+m is terrible
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>>174229006
yeah 360 controllers go for cheap now too

i've tried the kb+m route before and it just doesn't feel right to me.
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>>174228873
Dark Hand's base damage is really high and you can get it stupidly early

You can easily punch Dancer to death with it on a fresh character
>>
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>>174229060
>>174229113

I think it's fine for PvE but at PvP I just can't git gud

>>174229112

DS3 mainly
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>>174228389
follower torch
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>>174227792
reminder that it doesn't scale either
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Can i make frostbite work?
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what weapon/spell has the highest dps at maxed out stats?
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>>174229182
Oh shit I forgot that existed. Happening
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>>174229197
vordt's frosts in 3 hits, max

>>174229183
didn't that get changed in a patch?
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>>174216473

Hunters have told me, of the gods and their love, but do gods really love their creations? I am a doll, created by you humans. Would you ever think to love me?

Of course, I do love you. Isn't that how you've made me?
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>>174229164
>HELP ME HOST
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>>174229267
>didn't that get changed in a patch?
I hope it did
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>>174227792

>anything taking two slots when you're already limited by mana

I HATE IT
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>>174229240
weapon used to be Anri's, then it became hollow sellsword twinblades but now it may be sunlight straight sword, after taking all (self) buffs in consideration of course.
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>>174229006
Finished all the games multiple time with only keyboard. The only thing I have an issue with I spinning around while blocking. Thank god I don't block. I could probably rerebind some keys to fix this but at this point I'm too used to it
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>>174229197
I'm rocking Friede's Scythe and the Pontiff Curved Sword with Snap Freeze desu. If you land either wombo combo and follow up with a Freeze it's almost guaranteed to proc.
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>>174229350
Miracles has 7 get 2slot spells
WHY
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>>174229164
It's fucking annoying when hosts get police and just stand there when it's one invader because muh honor. Glad I farmed concords off silver knights.
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>>174229405
That was just what i had in mind actually, glad to hear it.
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>>174229350

this is a solid point
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>>174229432
>Want to run WoG for shits and giggles
>It's two slots
Fuck you From this garbo isn't worth 2 slots
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when will they add tri-wielding weapons?
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>>174229463
It's top tier in arena group fights actually.
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>>174229490
t. Zoro
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>>174229490
Wrestling moves when
I want to suplex a dragon
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>>174229495
Yeah but that's memes
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>>174216473
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>>174227112
>With fire, they say, a true king can harness the curse.
>A lie, but I knew no better…
>We will cast aside the prop of life, only to face greater hardship.
>Are you another such fool? Or something more?
>You know not the depth of Dark within you.
>It grows deeper still, the more flame you covet.
>Shadow is not cast but born of fire.
>And the brighter the flame, the deeper the shadow.
>Inherit fire and harness the dark.
>Such is the calling of a true leader.
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>>174229579
This game is a meme
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>>174216473
Definitely Gough.

"The dragons shall never be forgotten…
We knights fought valiantly, but for every one of them, we lost three score of our own.
Exhiliration, pride, hatred, rage… The dragons teased out our dearest emotions.
…Thou will understand, one day.
At thy twilight, old thoughts return, in great waves of nostalgia."

This IS Dark Souls for me. In 20 years, when (Bamco permitting) Dark Souls will be long gone, something will make you remember the days when you fought Artorias, Kalameet and Gwyn and how much you were emotionally invested in the game and you will shed a tear for the overwelming feeling of nostalgia that will get to you.
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>>174229620
The entire series is a meme
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>>174229463
>>174229350
I fucking hate how many slots faith builds need
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>>174229619
>>174227112
>>174228996
>>174227124
>fanfiction
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The painter is Miyazaki.
(Spoilers ahead)
So at the end of the ringed city you see gael getting the dark soul to give to the painter so she can create a new world.
Anything sound "gamey" about that.
That's because it represents Fromsoftware learning from Souls to make their next game that'll probably just reuse the same characters and ideas again.
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>>174229692
what did he mean by this
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i feel bad killing exile greatsword users. it's like the chode of greatswords. so easy to counter.
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>I learn new things every day. Things never learned in battle. And, thanks to you, I've recalled the joy of conversation!. If I can help you, if you require something, do speak up.

>I am grateful for these peaceful days. But such contentment lies only in the here and now. Why must life be so confounding…
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>>174228990
What happens that turns a normal player into a twink?
You can get a +7 flask with 12 doses without setting foot into Irithyll, but would getting that amount make you a twink?
Are the only players who aren't twinks for SL35 ones who haven't killed the Abyss Watchers or the Dancer?
Do they have to be good at PvP to be twinks?
I fought a guy who was handed a bunch of end game armour and weapons, and all he did was hold up his shield, easily getting punished for everything he did.
Would he be a twink? If so, why should i worry about twinks then?
What if, as an SL35, i invade someone at the top end of my invasion range? Would that be a twink? Even if he was shit?
Why do you label someone with an insult for playing through the game with a low upgrade level and a low SL? Or are twinks just people who just CE the +3 rings?
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>>174227112
>>174228996
>>174229105
I feel like a lot of Dark Souls 2's dialog are very deliberate metaphors for aspects of the game. The way the game's story reinforces its mechanics (and/or vice-versa) is frankly really good.

>But one day, you will stand before its decrepit gate... Without really knowing why.

Refers to how you will play through the game without really understanding your character's motivations or the story, due to the opaqueness of the game's story and the fact that, whatever the player character's motivations are, they are controlled by the player, who will always want to reach the final level.

There are a few other lines like this that hint at stuff like this, particularly I liked Chloanne's line

>I never planned to visit this gods-forsaken place. But I don't know… I just sort of ended up here. I must've just wandered in…Heh…

The same could be said of the player, and lines like this point to the sort-of happenstance of you ended up where you are. They tie the player's experience of wandering from one level to the next without aim or understanding, to the experience of undead suffering from the curse.

Also some of the dialog from Aldia sort of boils down to him saying, "the difficulty of Dark Souls is specifically what gives the experience value."

>But what is a king?
>You, neither born with greatness, nor granted it by the fates.
>What is it that you seek?

>Many monarchs have come and gone.
>Not one of them stood here, as you do now.
>You, conqueror of adversities.

There's honestly so much more that I could've belted off if this were 2 or 3 years ago, but I've forgotten most of it by now. But the point is, Dark Souls 2 has a lot of quotes that are emblematic of the series as a whole, because Dark Souls 2 uses its story to investigate and reinforce its mechanics, to a much greater extent IMO than any of the rest of the games, and I'm pretty sure a lot of these are very deliberate metaphors for the gameplay.
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>>174229739
Nah, the painter is bamco. Miyazaki is gael, bringing the dark souls to bamco, so they can sell it. Miyazaki sacrifices himself in the process to the player (us) to create the game.
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Will the next souls-like be across multiple platforms or ps4 exclusive?
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oh my god. oh my god guys. this is just too good. what could have possessed her to panic roll back that many times?
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>>174229862
also I ran out of characters, but

>Once the fire is linked, souls will flourish anew, and all of this will play out again.
>It is your choice…To embrace, or renounce this…

>The game then drops you off at a bonfire where you can choose to begin NG+

can you get any less subtle?
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>>174229906
Card game for phones
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>>174229906
Cross platform if they don't sell their souls to the devil and hate us pc master race fags.
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>>174229638
I felt the same way about this quote for a long time. It's one of my favorites. But there've been so many good ones since then, it's hard to pick just one.

I always thought the strongest theme in Dark Souls was that of the fading of power, and how people deal with that. Gough's quote there perfectly encapsulates that theme.
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I haven't played 3 since before the DLCs hit. At what SL does the cool kids hang out these days?
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>>174229638
>>174216473
"Ah, dragonslaying... knighthood's highest calling!"


Everything Gough says is worthy of being quoted.
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>>174229906
Hopefully exclusive, so /v/ has another conniption.
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>>174229931
>what could have possessed her to panic roll back that many times?

panic
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>>174229439
Fuck you i did that all the fucking time.
I'm giving you a chance to fight that stupid turd police guy in a 1v1 without ganking shitters, if you manage to kill him we can then duel 1v1 honorable with no chugging.
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>>174229772
it's the exact fucking same weapon as all other curved swords you mong
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>>174229780
If you picked him up and stuck your dick in his mouth he would be powerless to stop you.
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>>174229638
>>174230031
>Ahh, so this is true human nature...
>Artorias is in your debt, but thou leavest me little choice...
>May you perish, for the good of all.
>proceeds to body slam you into oblivion
BASED fucking Gough
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>>174230145
>with no chugging

You sorry fool. You could not be the chosen one.
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>>174230182
generally people have teeth, so no, he wouldn't
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>>174230182
He still has teeth, you know.
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>>174230232
Just break his teeth, what's he going to do?
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>tfw some random person added me on steam
Either someone I lost too wants to bully me further, someone is salty as fuck about being BTFO by me or it's one of the two people I helped with abyss watchers. and I suspect it's one of you anime nerds too, so I am very sorry if you had an unpleasant encounter with two hand cestus user, but I usually don't add faggots to my steam account. don't hit on me silly boys
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>>174230258
At that point its just a mess
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>>174230216
>hurr i can use all of my 8 estus until i win by attriction
Are you retarded?
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>>174230031

"Exhiliration, pride, hatred, rage… The dragons teased out our dearest emotions…Thou will understand, one day.
At thy twilight, old thoughts return, in great waves of nostalgia."
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>>174230284
>kill someone in an invasion
>get a friend request within a split second
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>>174230258
you'd have to carefully pull each tooth because broken teeth are more dangerous.

and then you're going to a lot of trouble to fuck some guy's disembodied head. who's probably still going to gum you so hard your dick gets gangrene.

why is this a conversation
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>>174230306
Hmg!
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>>174230384
Seeing how his eyes are crusted shut just makes me so sad, man.
Dark Souls characters who are obviously in pain but still coping make me feel so hard.
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>>174230385
>kill someone in an invasion
>get an invite to a group called "faggot chuggers"
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>>174230387
>broken teeth are more dangerous
Can confirm.
I have two of my teeth who are just sharp stumps that eviscerate my fucking tongue everytime i move over them.
I'm pretty sick of this blood taste in my mouth.
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>be really bad at pvp
>seriously, REALLY bad
>heart starts beating really fast, blood pressure rises, even if there's basically no stakes and I don't FEEL nervous, my body just reacts like it's being stalked by some predator
>just can't handle it at all, and so avoid invading or anything
>if I'm embered it's because I've recently killed a boss
>also play a glass cannon sorc
>basically a free kill for any invaders
>as a consequence, whenever invaded, just go somewhere it's easy to recover souls and curl up to await my doom
Most invaders kill me without a second thought, but there's a surprising amount that just try to get me to react and defend myself, but I just curl up again or spread out on the ground, and they end up just black crystaling out.

It's sad, I know.
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>>174230484
fuck you i laughed loudly
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buff ricard's rapier
buff spears of the church
give us the actual spear of the church
give us the humanity head
give us ledo's set
give us the silver knight weapons
give us gough's great bow and arrows
buff heavy armor in PvE
nerf estus speed
let me flex
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>>174218742
Use a humanity, you're hollowing.
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>>174230491
Why don't you get them pulled? Having no tooth is 1000 times better than having a fucked up tooth, I know from experience.

>>174230387
Fine then just rub your dick on his face. He'd be powerless to stop that.
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Do you guys know if there's been a proper scan of the Design Works yet?
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>>174230483
I feel terrible whenever I'm going through the Corvian Village. They look so utterly miserable.
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>>174230387
>why is this a conversation
Indeed. Why go for the mouth, when you have a convenient hole in the stump of his neck?
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>>174230520
These are honorable hunters, anon.
There is no joy into killing a little scared rabbit.
Those are the same invaders who are likely to never chug.
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>>174230564
Re-re nerf crow quills
Buff ultras
Nerf all magic schools
Make it so 5 dorkmoons are auto summoned per 1 invader
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>>174230564
>buff this, nerf that
>but don't under any circumstances fix any of the bugs that have been present since release, or any new bug that have arose from the dlc
Fuck you.
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> first time arriving in 2dlc
> way of the blue
> get instantly invaded
> just wait
> 2 blues join
> 1 blue sprints ahead and kills the angel
> other blue kills the knights
> red phantom in panic mode just running around
> mfw
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>>174216473
>Don't you dare go hollow.

Is he the greatest bro of the series?
>>
Would you prefer:

1. Demon Souls/Dark Souls remaster
2. Bloodborne 2
3. Dark Souls 4
4. Demon Souls 2
5. Completely new game
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Hey guys, for a typical summoner class cosplay, which shield would one use alongside the classic Dark Sword?
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>>174230564
Give us blue armor variants
Give us more types of helmets instead of JUST SALLETS YO
Give the shitty useless weapons in the game their own fun movesets
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>>174230284
>get friend request
>it's some chink
>it's not in the recent players list
>reject
>2 weeks later, same thing happens but with a gook instead
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>>174230582
>Why don't you get them pulled?
Because i have a rare bone condition that does not allow me to partake in bone surgeries, including surgically pulling out a tooth.
If the surgeon tries to do that my whole jaw could probably crackle and shatter.
It sucks, i know, i must live with half teeth still in my mouth because of this.
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>>174230692
havel's ofc
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>>174230613
I agree. And I breed birds so I'm a total fucking pussy when it comes to birds suffering.
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>>174230663
Summon 3 phantoms
They beat the boss while i stand there

Hella
Fucking
Epic!!
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>>174230663
>1 blue sprints ahead and kills the angel
that happened to me as well, i wasn't pleased with that
i removed the blue fags covenant after that
i dont like people boosting me, fuck off
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>>174230682
>tells you not to go hollow
>goes hollow like a fucking pussy retard and tries to kill you
>all because he was jealous of your superior pyromancies

Nah.
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>>174230754
> summoning for bosses

nah ... but way of the blue is comfy

also someone has to make sure you get the covenant items
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>That satisfying as FUCK sound when you hit someone with vordt's and the 2nd hit frostbites them

>700 damage

my god this thing is gorgeous now, all it took was some damage and a sound effect and it feels like a proper weapon
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>>174230692
Shield of Want, of course.
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>>174230632
>m-muh chug
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just got prisoner's meme
SL1 rn, still wanna make the twink sunbro build
any tips on necessary stats, etc?
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>>174230746
>i have a rare bone condition that does not allow me to partake in bone surgeries
>that does not allow me to partake in bone surgeries
>partake in bone surgeries
>partake
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>>174230684
Dark Souls remaster.
Demon Souls aged like milk, nobody cares about Bloodborne 2 or any other new game after DS3.
A full DS remaster on the level of SoTFS would be godlike.
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What is the most fun DS2 build, friends? I'm starting a new character
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>>174230620
I like the way you think but I prefer the eye sockets.
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>>174230868
You can invade down, so SL1 is no point mate. Should've started as Knight and had +1 weapons, you'd be able to invade SL1's
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>>174230890
heide knight paladin with matching cosplay
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>>174230684
Cross-platform Demon's Souls remaster or completely new game.
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>>174230836
Can you trigger the frostbite during a riposte ?
>hornet ring frostbite riposte
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>>174230960
i dont intend on staying SL1 kek, i just want to wait and see which stats would be best
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So why didn't they just make blue cops unable to attack monsters unless the host uses a seed?
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>>174230856
The biggest mistake they ever made with DS3.
Chugging promotes literally cancer-tier levels of online interaction.
It's literally a war of attrition.
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>>174231009
pretty sure you can, but a hornet ring vordt riposte is gonna kill almost everybody anyway
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Just installed DS1 and DSfix for the first time.

Why is there such awful audio lag and input lag? Why does it feel like complete shit?
>>
>Why is Irithyll Straight Sword so fucking aesthetic?
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>>174231083
it's old anon, let go
i will never miss the roll queue
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I really am trying to have fun with just invading but every gank is just making me wish I was running some optimized cancer twink
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>>174230684
DeS2 or new game.

>>174230884
I don't think i can stand playing DaS 1 ever again after all the runs i've done, no matter how "remastered". Tried it again recently and it just felt like a series of checklists.
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>>174231083
Because the PC port is ass.
Play it on PS3 like everyone else.
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>>174230632
I am NOT looking forward to the Spears of the Church fight, I can tell you that.
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>>174231051
it's too easy and so are rolls
shittiest pvp in a souls game yet
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>>174231105
She's pretty and she's mine
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>>174231136
>ps3
>like everyone else
w-what about xbox desu
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>>174231083
you did something wrong or are playing it on a potato
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>>174231136
I played through DS1 on PC with no DSfix and only mouse and keyboard at least 3 times and enjoyed it.

Am I autistic?
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>>174231201
I installed DSfix 100% to the letter. And I'm pretty sure this PC is more than capable of running an ugly game from 2011.
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>>174230890
dual wield cestus and later bone fist
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>>174231145
Why not? Shit's actually cash since the invader can't heal and must play smart against the host.
Ofc it all comes to shizzle if the host has 3 phantoms circling is dick, but your damage and health as spear of the church gets double with every phantom the host has summoned.
And those spear consumables are kinda cool, most people don't even bother with them since objectively they're complete ass against a single host, but with multiple cunts and believe me that's going to happen that shit is great to limit the boss area and cull the stupid phantoms from the duel-skirmish gold faggots.
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>run around memeing at archdragon peak
>see this blood stain

how the fuck does that happen?
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>>174231191
No one appreciates us.
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>>174231247

It's a compatibility issue. I haven't heard of any solution to it.
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>>174231105
I hate the particle effect. They're too repetitive and janky looking.

I wish DaS3 had BB's particle system
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>friede
why did dark souls 3 try so hard to be bloodborne, it just doesnt fit, aesthetically, this fight is amazing, but plays so poorly
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>>174231247
dunno. you have a better rig than me and ds1 runs flawlessly for me

try playing with 30fps vs 60fps vs unlocked?
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>>174231247
>ugly game
nah
people really under appreciate the graphics of dark souls 1 just because it's older
it's certainly got a better art direction, too
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>>174231293
Alright, I guess I'm not playing this game. It's actually unplayable. it's a full second of audio lag, and my roll button and item button aren't registering at random times.
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>>174231159
I agree completely, 'tis nothing but a gank shitfest.
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>>174231365
I tried 60fps and the game felt janky and sped-up. I tried 30fps and it seemed unbearably choppy. Both had the input and audio lag issues.
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>>174231290
>he doesn't know about the secret boss fight
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>>174231191
>>174231291
There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
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>>174231276
>Why not?
See: >>174230520
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>>174231247
>win 10
there's your problem kiddo
both dsfix and ds1 aren't compatible with that shitfest
install gentoo
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>>174231335
Bloodborne looks so fluid compared to Dark Souls 3.

Ironic considering it's console framerate.
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>>174231145
>>174231451
go offline for that fight

it's better that way anyway
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>>174231451
You are replying to the same dude giving you (You)s.
I just told you why you shouldn't fear that, as is it pretty easy to do.
Just summon some random retards to keep that idiot at bay while you nuke the whore NPC.
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>>174231446
I'd say there are more people on Xbox SotFS than Xbox DaS 3.
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>>174231463
>tfw playing dark souls on gnu/linux
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>>174231515
>wanting to fight halflight
literally why
he's harder than any single fucking retard out there, the chances of finding some fuccboi trying the covenant are greater than having to fight that stupid artificial npc
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>>174231563
shit tabs

try again
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>>174231563
Why would you have every song in an individual tab and not just find the album on Youtube? Why would you listen to music on YT in the first place?
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>>174231597
>he's harder than any single fucking retard out there

Literally how? I'm possibly the worst PVP player in the world, any retard can beat me, and I destroyed Halflight's glittery asshole on my first try.
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>>174231480
so this... is the power... of programming for a single platform... woah...
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>>174231480
it's the object motion blur

DaS3 doesn't seem to have it for some reason, or it's incredibly short and toned down to the point you can't notice it.

30fps games need that shit imo to not look stuttery, it smooths things out like a real camera does for 24fps film

DeS and DaS have the same implementation and look really fluid because of it too. DaS2 has a weird ghosty verison of the effect that isn't as good, and DaS3 as I said seems to be missing it completely.

When things move fast in BB, it really feels like it, the velocity has a weight and the trails to things because of the blur accentuate that feeling of speed imo
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>>174231725
average linux user
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>>174231771
because you spammed R1, like the shitter you are
of course he's not hard if you just spam that shit, but for any other class, especially the sorcerer cunt he just said he is, he's a pain in the fucking ass
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>>174228437
SS
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>>174231781
Fuck off /v/
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>>174231790
This looks like a dark souls 3 boss the way it attack
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>>174231854
I'm a fucking sorcerer nigga. That's the precise reason I'm bad at PVP.
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>>174231790
this webm is fucking triggering me beyond belief
you have no idea how long I was stuck at depth 5 trying to beat this particular fuckface
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fuck me for thinking a door shield run would be even remotely simple
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>>174231861
jokes on you I'm from /bbg/
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>>174231989
you're not
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>>174231869
You mean DaS 3 looks like BB.
Except you're slower in DaS 3.
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>>174231854
>but for any other class, especially the sorcerer
What? MLGS, crystal infusion. Magic is sidearm for mage because it's DS3
>>
pcfcbf when
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>>174232045
>MLGS, crystal infusion
I... I don't think that's the way it works...
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>>174229490
t. killer bee
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>>174232014
yes i am. look I know all of the /bbg/ memes ok

>bullying
>buscemi
>loss: markus edition
>benjie frankster
>Already Dead

im the real deal, buster.
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I can't believe the every invasion is a gank meme is true, literally every invasion i've done is me getting ganked i'm not even exaggerating. that's fucking disgusting
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>>174232045
>MLGS
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>>174229559
Tekken Souls

Coming 2019
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>>174231480
>Ironic considering it's console framerate.
Frame pacing.
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>>174232016
and have 60% more i-frames on rolls and functional shields and twice as many super armor frames
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>>174231972
just roll L1 brah
OP in pve and pvp
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>>174229906
It's 100% PS4 exclusive

Fromsoft has a contract for 2 more games, and recently this year, Miyazki was pictured having nom noms with Yushida and co again

Fromsoft's true A team next project is 100% a PS4 game
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>>174232240
All those i-frames, and roll catching is the easiest its ever been.
DaS 3s i-frames are equal to having 105 AGL in DaS 2.
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Does dried finger in 3 allow 2 invaders if you're alone without Way of Blue, or only 1 at a time? (not counting aldritch, doggos)
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>>174232306
Fucking reeeeeeeee. Why does Miyazaki hate poor people?
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>>174232174
the trick is to just play through the game spamming dried finger while never summoning anybody or ever using the red eye orb yourself.
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>>174232306
who's yushida? please don't hate me for not knowing
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>>174232359
this, rather unfortunate really
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>>174232306
If the next game is BB2 and a remastered DeS comes out too, i will unironically buy a PS4 and play it over PC.
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>>174232310
no? It's roughly equivalent to having maxed agility. slightly better actually, because you have 1 less recovery frame than max agility DkS2 roll.

BB meanwhile has 11 i-frames, which is lower than Dark Souls 1 fast roll, and 105 agility DkS2. Equivalent to 96 agility.
>>
>using rotten ghru curved sword
>pointing doing after every duel
>throw shit
>not a single friend request or group invite

What am l doing wrong?
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>i will unironically buy a PS4 and play it over PC.
what
>>
How much int/faith should I aim for as a pyromancer? 30/30? 40/40? I am so torn..
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>>174232520
40/40
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>>174232520
40/40
remember to also get crystal chimes & run some sorceries if you're not roleplaying
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>>174232484
105 AGL is 13 i-frames, which is how much DaS 3 has.
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>>174231951
>depth 5
what's that? is that ng+ in bb?
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>>174230564
the entire spear weapon class needs a revamp
every single fucking spear plays the same and the WAs are basically useless
why does from hate spears
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>>174232561
it's not only about i-frames
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>>174232520
40/40, probably something like pic related. You could cut off some dex and str, but I just like having a bigger weapon arsenal.
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>>174232620
Shield splitter is shit but charge and spin to win are good.
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>>174232681
>15end
I will never understand how you play like this. Especially against 3 angry phantoms with katanas and curved gs
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>>174232581
Depth 5 is probably the equivalent of NG+3 or 4. FRC's where you lose half your health and enemies gain buffs can probably even go up another NG.
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>>174232625
>DaS 3s i-frames are equal to having 105 AGL in DaS 2.
Is what i said, which is true.
But i also mentioned roll catching.
In DaS 2 i would run with 96 AGL, and wouldn't have even half the problems i have with DaS 3s roll catching.
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This just happened after 5 minutes of me running and rolling away from them while they tried ganking me.
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>>174232551
>>174232557
>>174232681
Thanks friendos.

15 endurance though? Isn't that terribly low?
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>>174232774
Unless I get literally 40 END or something, two Vestiges will leave me without stamina regardless. It doesn't really matter at that point whether I have 15 end or 30 if I really start scraping points off of other stats. Other than that, light weapons such as Thrall Axe, which is my main weapon, don't consume much stamina. It's honestly not so bad at all, I think you're just too used to having 40 END.
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>>174232726
>tfw blind spot is good now but shield splitter is still slow and weak
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>>174232774

Never block and play defensively.
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>>174232510
You're supposed to heal during duels in order to get fanmail
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>>174232914
it's like they've got <30% equip load on bridge arena
jesus
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>>174233047
it started all the way by the lift up to anor londo. they chased me down there.
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>>174228389
>clear out two bridge areas after the first high wall bonfire with the broken shortsword
>durability at nearly 50%
This isn't going to be nearly as fun as I imagined it to be
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>>174233016
all healing got me was nips running around to get a draw and friendly fanmail
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>>174232914
>ganking at pontiff without c@
They deserved it.
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Teach me the ways of mid/low level invading /dsg/.
How low can I *really* go with VIG/END?
How much damage do you need to be able to stop ganks?
What are your recommended builds/weapons?
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>>174233047
I notice this too. Sometimes in invasions you back roll very far away
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>>174233202
How low are we talking here?
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Does reviving Argo allow invaders to invade you again?
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>>174233202
27vig or 16/17 if you're struggling with the stats
15end is enough for 3 2hr1 gs, 20end should be enough for ultras
pchain, charms, fap+3

>>174233397
yes
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>>174233451
>>174233451
>>174233451
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>>174233202
22 vig + chain. Any raw ss. Raw dragonslayer axe is not so good now. Keep hornet and k***ht slayer rings ready for swap.
For low levels if find carthus flame arc and chaos fireball great investments (12/12, if I remember correctly).
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>>174233202
Low lvl pvp is no damage boring slog unless you use "twink weapons".
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>>174233202
Just get a spinny anime weapon if you want to win. If you want to actually have fun with a specific invasion build like a cosplay or whatever, prepare to lose a lot.
As for VIG, I usually try to get into the 1000's as quickly as possible, END around 20 is plenty but depends on weapon. Enough for two swings and a roll works for me.

Muh Mildred for reference. Got like 10 tongues over a couple of hours, but also a healthy number of losses.
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>>174233202
for ganks you need the two handed ultra weapon with a sweep attack
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>>174233202
Put all points into VIG until you reach your desired level. Pick one of the raw weapons that does exceptional damage. Use prisoner's chain. You're done senpai.
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>>174219748
Your Wolverine reminds me of
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>>174216979
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>>174232923
I'd run atleast 20, maybe pop in prisoner's now that it's the best ring in the game
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>>174229862
>Without really knowing why
It's a translation mistake. She says "whether you like it or not" in chin chong, I think.
>>
How are brigand daggers after the patch? Worth using?
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>>174231441

forgotten king isnt secret and it doesnt take place out there either
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>>174230682
He was the only one whose quest line I would never finish. What a guy
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>>174238025
They're still the worst paired weapons in the game. Too slow. No stun. Bad moveset.
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>>174238850
What's the best?
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>>174238949
PvE? Sharp sellsword twinblades. Absolutely destroys any semblance of difficulty. Only needs one stat. Doesnt even need a buff.

Winged Knight Twinaxes also very good, just got buffed. Drang hammers too.
Most of them are good, it's just that the Twindaggers are really bad.
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>>174239089
I hope you're still here, what about pvp?
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>>174226637
I've been farming for the last 2 hours
50-100 drops and still nothing
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>>174231790
>using hammer mode against a fast boss

Serves him right.
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