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Last Thread >>174083713

>list of good comm. servers
http://www.teamfortress.tv/servers

>Tips and guides
Blog: tf2.com
Wiki: wiki.tf
Class guides: pastebin.com/u/TheOperator
FAQ: pastebin.com/6t7WNtgn
Mods: pastebin.com/bzzUK5tz
Steam status: steamstat.us steamgaug.es
Preview Loadout: whatsnext.loadout.tf | steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/158547475
HUDs: huds.tf
Game Traffic: steamcharts.com/app/440#1y

>Trading
Sites: scrap.tf | tf2outpost.com | backpack.tf | bazaar.tf
BP check: backpack.tf
Prices: backpack.tf | trade.tf
Scrapbanking: scrap.tf | scrapbank.me
Skins: p337.info/tfview/

>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
Comp Wiki: comp.tf
Lobbies: tf2center.com/lobbies
Scripting: pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | pastebin.com/H3WfKLaB (embed)
TF2 streams: teamfortress.tv
UGC (Global): ugcleague.com
ESEA (NA/EU): play.esea.net
ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
FBTF (Brazil): teamfortress.com.br/forum/

>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
pastebin.com/9S37Kk0W

>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15-e-Sut2sj954Cjm8aGzXMaN4dSSop7xgiyp9DCdOK8/edit?usp=sharing
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Whoa this first spot is nice
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christ the hat and mask look awful together
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>>174213876
Oh man, thats even more of an investment.

>>174213893
You can do the same proces with the old contract skins as well.
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does anyone actually look at or use the shit in the OP
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>>174214759
Have you seen it updated in the last like 4 years?
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>>174214460
Comin' on strong.
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>>174214816
no but then why do we still have to post it every time we make a new thread
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>>174214460
rstt
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>>174214885
is the irc even a thing too? last time i looked it was full of fags
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>>174215356
But Anon, that wasn't the irc. You were standing in a mirror house.
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Fuck
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>>174215556
but Anon, this is the new thread :^)
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Goodnight, /tf2g/. Post your highest killstreak and I'll look at in the morn, mines 30.
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>>174216075
i think i got one or two more kills after this, but then the server crashed.
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>>174216075
based vacc
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>>174216075
>When your killstreak gets cut short by the round ending
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>>174216075
58
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guys, engineer is so much fun. its feels so good setting up sentries in all the places players dont expect, having them run straight into the line of fire. it feels just as good to mow down people with your shotgun while theyre trying to peek your sentry. being able to heal and teleport your teammates is also very satisfying. i can do all of that killing and still be a real team player. this class is like a drug. i can do it all.
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>>174217146
A challenger appears
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>>174217143
>no cosmetics or steam friend pocket medic
impressive
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7 decides what a put on my conscientious objector (within reason, I have irl friends on steam)
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>>174217146
wrong image
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>>174217243
>implying anyone in valve servers can switch to demo
i always get spies to chew up with my shotgun instead. even then, it only takes a few seconds to build a level 1. not much metal to upgrade to level 2 either.
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>>174217349
seven
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>>174217270
thank you uwu
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>>174217146
hey stop I did not give you permission to save that image

that is my image
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>>174217742
its the only good pic from that artist anyways. am i allowed to post glossi?
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>>174217797
No these are MY waifus get your own
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>sniping on turbine
>obviously new player on the other team who keeps standing still or running in straight lines
>look at scoreboard at the end after using his inexperience to farm stranges
>0 points
i don't usually feel bad for f2ps because they're doing something obviously stupid and kind of funny, but i felt bad about it this time.
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>>174217143

That's a nice set of aimbot/wallhacks you've got there.
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>>174217871
whats glossi from, by the way? i wanna look at more pics of her.

also give me the source on this panty while your at it
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>>174218101
>heart eyes
yes i also need the source to this, on the double please
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>>174218101
>>174218139
it was posted a few days ago, check the archive for imgur
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>>174218101
Latex maid : http://keijimatsu.tumblr.com/tagged/glossi

The sauce : http://imgur.com/a/JVCQw
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>>174218008
wtf
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https://scrap.tf/raffles/NJBBFP
>As a final request, if you do happen to win the snake, nightcap or ambassador, please dont change the name or description. They are in memory of my friend Nick who commited suicide. Anyway, have a great day everyone, and good luck!
if one of you wins the ambassador, i dare you to rename it "Nick Cuckbain's Microphone"
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>>174217871

>waifus

You're trash.
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fourth cosmetic slot when
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>wake up
>random crits still don't exist in comp

shit game mode
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>>174218679
>you can win, but please keep the name in memory of a person you didn't know
...the fuck? Just fucking keep the items for yourself if that's what you want, don't expect others to do things for people they never knew
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reminder to turn off cosmetics
http://www.teamfortress.tv/35222/no-hats-mod

reminder to turn off a good deal of effects
https://mega.nz/#!eRQj3Yza!XXAfSpFKprnlmkvM5H5Qs60cwz25zKllmT08AGTfTCA

reminder to turn off weapon skins
>right click on tf2 in steam, then click properties, next set launch option, and finally paste -dxlevel 81
after you run it once, exit the game one more time, go back to properties, and then remove -dxlevel 81. it will remain directx 8 but for whatever reason be much more stable

reminder to turn off other garbage
mat_phong 0
cl_disablehtmlmotd 1
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i used to be a regular here but i've been gone for around a year. have there been any high-quality memes made lately? i might post some of my oc for the nostalgia
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>>174219780
high quality, no. memes, yes, by the truckload. it's kind of like /tv/ where everyone's trying to force their own meme, but it's smaller so it's slightly less cancerous.
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>>174220228
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rate my wife
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>>174220717
I wish fur really was murder/10
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>>174220717
sparkledog garbage. Get a real waifu

she does have a nice pussy though
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>>174216075
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>>174221829
>6v4 win in casual
good job
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>>174221829
Denton looks happy here
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>tf2g someone mistakes the video as Dane bragging about winning a casual match
Is everyone here autistic?
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>>174222008
>4chan
you tell me
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>>174222008
okay you beat a 6 year old on powerhouse with a solly pocket, in a 6v4
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>>174222684
>he thinks I made the video
Holy shit, get out of here newfag
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>>174222684
>okay you beat a 6 year old on
>you
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>>174222684
How new?
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>>174222008
Does this answer your question?
>>174222684
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>>174217537
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is this good or not
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>>174223753
whats your best item
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>>174223481
>not using three rune blade
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>>174224075
I put it on the scout because it gave a clear view
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>>174222816
>>174222862
>>174222897
>>174223041
*does something entirely unnoteworthy*
*makes a video despite this and shills it here*
great job
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>>174224170
Why do you think anyone here made or shilled the video?
Are you this new to TF2?
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>>174224712
$20 he's either going to say he was just trolling the whole time and thanks for the (you)'s or he's going to double down and say he doesn't care about any e-celeb shit. either way, he most certainly will not own up to his mistake.
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>>174224712
>>174224787
ok
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Post Pryo
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>>174224973
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>>174224973
I need to unpaint the hat at some point.
But I like my comfy pyro.
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>>174224810
is this some kind of abstract loss?
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>>174224973
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>>174225432
no. Keep guessing
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>>174224973
i wanna use another loadout but i dont wanna take off the attendant
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>>174220717
FurriesAreStillBetterThanWeebs/10
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JUST
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What games should I buy with 50€?

Or maybe I should spend all of it in keys...
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buy limited edition trump hats and sell them for an 800% markup

then keys with the money you make
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>>174225889
Talos Principle
Rome Total War
Estranged: Act I and Act II
Transmissions: Element
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>>174224973
I made this loadout with stalker/fallout in mind
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>pairing the attendant with the pyromancer's mask
>pyromancer's mask in general
>festive shit
jesus fucking christ
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>>174228159
A MU CHEEKI BREEKI IV DAMKE
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>>174228159
botkiller weapons dont look good
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>>174228220
as can be seen by >>174214460 the last thing on viva's mind is how good items look together. item synergy does not exist, only the ability to stack unusual effects.
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>>174228419
i kind of figured that desu
white energy fucking sucks anyways, what did the attendant do to deserve that kind of treatment
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>>174228419
Synergy doesn't exist? Meanwhile, Purple + Green Energies = White Energy. Sounds like a synergy to me

Silly jealous NEETs
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>>174228553
and the attendant fucking clips through the mask. i'm almost certain there's hats that would gel better with the mask and not fucking clip through it so painfully if you were really hard up on having white energy, it's not like he doesn't have the money for it. he's just doubling down to try and convince people he doesn't have shit taste or buyer's remorse. the festive thing wouldn't piss me off except it doesn't go with the loadout, and viva's even talked about how disgusted he'd be if he festivized his kritzkreig. it's consistent with nothing. i have a fully decked strange festive sniper loadout because i like festives, it at least falls into a theme, i even gave them all the same damn sheen. viva has no excuse except shit taste and he won't even admit to that.
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>Silly jealous NEETs
right im sorry, forgive me for not having all this money to burn on overcompensating

>>174228782
>the attendant fucking clips through the mask
thats the main reason why it fuckin pisses me off honestly
"hey guys look at me and my loadout that has 3 unusual effects and clips like hell"
fuckin disgusting
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>>174228515
How do find the people in those servers so you can ask them for the password?
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>>174228964
if he wanted to stack even more effects he could just get an unusual coffin kit. another energy effect on that would burn out the retinas on everyone in the server, you wouldn't even notice the apparition's aspect was gone, and it would at least go better with the mask since it's skull themed.
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>>174229203
>unusual coffin kit
i forgot that those existed honestly, god damn
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>>174229010
you need to fit into their comp community
infiltrate their ranks
they slowly start trusting you and invite you to "mixes", where they give you the "connect" (IP and password of server)
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>>174224973
I prefer killing people with Shotgun/Flaregun/Backscratcher and use degreaser to reflect rockets.
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people who vote "no" to kick a hacker should be banned from valve servers after he gets a vac ban.
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https://youtu.be/aqeVxxMosMI
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>>174225889
>in keys
This.
Also might increase your epeen via high steam level.
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>>174228515
casual is better than community servers you filthy normie scum
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>>174233252
This if only for the badge, for some reason it motivates me to do better and play more
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how does one play scout effectively, he's like a fast engineer who can't build shit
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Who's the scary lady?
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https://scrap.tf/auctions/3BMEBO
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>>174233486
> only for the badge, for some reason it motivates me to do better and play more
You should already have 150 level. You need like just 300 hrs for it.
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>>174234182
I'm at 108, I've been playing a shitton
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>>174234276
I was at 131 when i sold this acc. Created it in sep 2016.
Really makes you think.
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>>174234387
shit
http://steamcommunity.com/id/tylertheseller/games/?tab=all
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>>174234474
>sub 1000 hours
don't enter any tf2g raffles
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>>174224973
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>>174234568
Boy you don't even know how many accounts i used to have before.
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>>174234648
tell that to morgan
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>>174234692
Why
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>chasing down demo who's fucking with our engie
>He shoots some stickies down, rounds corner
>Airblast em away from me towards the doorway
>He turns back around the corner detonating them, only to be standing on em himself
>He laughs about it in chat "only I'd do something so stupid"
Tf2 will never not be fun
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>>174234743
She refuses to give raffle prizes to sub 1000 hours
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>>174234778
But i have around 2000 hours.
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>>174234831
then you're good
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>pocketed soldier with all lime items and two stacked unusual effects turns corner
>panic
>he doesn't even try to delay his shots or shoot the ground next to me for jukes
>airblast his rockets 1:1 until he dies

i don't understand
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>>174235073
https://steamcommunity.com/id/nevapidor
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First Five or Eight, as well as loadouts that interest me.
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unusuals != skill
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>>174235163
you just met a comp meta soldier main who doesn't understand anything outside the meta
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>>174235191
meme me up scotty
>>174225702
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>>174235191
I don't need your shitty drawnings.
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>>174235191
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LOok guys I M SO NORMAL hahaha FEELS GOOD TO BE A NORMIE LOL
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>>174235191
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BasedViva having good day and enjoing his blessed life :)
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>>174235191
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Stop using the Heavy Tourism.
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>>174235191
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>>174235191
>>174235257
>>174235276
>>174235721
>>174235987
>>174236236
all of them
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Keep using the Engineer's Cap.
>Captcha: Stop Home
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how many years have you been playing tf2 for

what else have you done in that time
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>steal a dudes frying pan
>he goes full "I DID NOT PAY ONE GRILLION DOLLARS" on me trying to get it back
Rip Mr.Money, proof that items do not make you better at the game
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>>174236549
post chat
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>>174236549
pot calling kettle black etc
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>>174236549
Literal hobo
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>>174236549
>proof that items do not make you better at the game
>comming from the engienigger
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YOU PAN STEALIN'
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>>174236603
I didn't save it
I do have this picture of a spy statue that never fell down or vanished and was there the entire game which was pretty creepy

>>174236643
>>174236740
I am good at the game, thank you.
At least passable
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>>174236545
5 years

Y'know. Normie shit
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Imagine frying a golden steak in that pan
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>>174236545
Pyromania update
Lots of sex and drugs : (
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>>174236771
>7 killstreak
>4 pan kills
>only one kill on the sentry
Inclined to believe you desu
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Muselk sucks
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>>174236953
he's using the clutchmaker
also, the pan kills are from obvious retarded f2p spies
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>>174237101
shut the FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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b4nny sucks
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>>174237235
>widowmaker is a crutch
What the fuck?
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he's a meanie
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>>174237293
It doesn't require reloading and rewards spamming playstyle
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NOOOOOO
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>>174237332
>rewards spamming playstyle
No it doesn't because if you spam it you run out of metal AND ammo and you can't just flick some more shells into it
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>gunboats
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>>174237332
It rewards aim, not spam
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>>174237381
It does though. You can fire infinitely and don't lose much ammo at all on a miss, this is especially the case if you stand next to a level three dispenser like you.
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>>174237450
>You can fire infinitely and don't lose much ammo at all on a miss
You lose 30. You only have 6 shots
>this is especially the case if you stand next to a level three dispenser like you.
I don't play engineer
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>>174235276
still no 5 or 8, tempted to draw nohatsmod anon.
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>>174237515
>I don't play engineer
Okay, if ONE stands next to a dispenser. My point still stands.
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>>174237576
The widowmaker actively punishes standing next to a dispenser because if you do and you need to fire you have no metal for your sentry or dispenser
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>>174237554
Guess i'll reroll then
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>>174237669
This is a non-problem if all your buildings are already at maximum level. (Like given in Vibri's screenshot)
Also it is to be kept in mind that the Dispenser isn't the sole source of metal here, but also the damage points from the eventual hits.
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What do you want raffled next? First reply wins.
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heavy minigun

+100% pellet count
+100% faster spin up
+100% faster spin down
-100% slower firing speed
-75% max primary ammo

it's actually a shotgun haha epic
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>the one weapon in the game whose success is based solely on skill is a crutch
This general is cancer
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>>174237868
golden frying pan
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Valve man here
First to reply to this decides what weapon gets nerfed
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>>174237984
Fine.
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>>174237990
bonk
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>>174237990
pyro
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Viva here
First reply to this decides who I'm giving head to
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>>174238142
Isabella
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>>174238246
Who?
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>>174238246
It's Isabelle you dumbfuck
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Why does he wear the masketta?
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That one didn't fly so good!
Who wants to try next?
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Why do new players periodically stand absolutely still
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why doesn't anyone use the panic attack anymore
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>hit guy
>they survive the explosion
>you die from the explosion

why is this allowed
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people who use the null cancelling movement script don't understand how useful it is to stop on a dime without releasing your movement keys. sometimes the best way to dodge is to stay still for a second.
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>hit guy
>they survive

why is this allowed
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>>174237758
leaving to get some food, I'll post the finished bit a little later
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No, but these players will stand still in ways that get them killed
>standing still to look at something
>standing still to shoot at something
>standing still while choosing a disguise/building
>hardscoping
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>>174239536
No worries , take your time
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what i don't get is spies who stand perfectly still when firing their revolver
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newbies think they can compensate for recoil
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>>174237764
>This is a non-problem if all your buildings are already at maximum level.
You can't repair them and spam at the same time, the metal you get from dispenser will be pretty low. Thus, your point is broken. It doesn't promote spamming; in case you do, your sentry will be shot down.
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>engineer builds a teleporter to our intel room
literally the only time you would ever need this the tele would probably be destroyed
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>>174239952
You get metal from hitting people with it. And alot of metal at that. The ammo from the dispenser is used to compensate for missed shots.
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http://bazaar.tf/trade/1537498

hh
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>>174240140
That still means you can't spam it and don't care if you're missing. Try playing Heavy or Pyro if you think pressing M1 promotes spamming then see how long you stay alive by not hitting anything.
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>>174241448
As Heavy or Pyro I don't get any ammo back for hitting lucky shots, though.
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What's a good way to make this game fun again? It got really boring after a while and I need a way to spice it up.
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>played it for 965965 hours
>w-why it's not so fun like it's used to be
> > > /v
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OHOHO CONGA
>>
Come on now
Let's do this!
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/tf2g/ meetup with irl conga when?
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>>174241979
play competitive
get good at a different class
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>>174242353
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJVm6xdEe4I

three years ago
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>>174242674
Physically uncomfort watching this
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>>174241683
You can still "spam" by sitting near a dispenser too though.
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>>174243272
And they get countered. I never said the widow is uncounterable.
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>>174242674
DID THAT ONE FAGGOT HAVE A FUR TAIL ON HIS ASS
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>Borneo last point.
>Guy getting pocketed all game thinks he's good with his Vacc medic up his ass.
>Lose the round and head to defense.
>Go enginigger.
>We manage to defend first point without giving it to them.


*Woohoos externally.*
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>>174243331
>promotes spamming
Well... now you know at least.
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>>174243851
It does promote spamming though.
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>>174243881
Try missing
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>>174243910
Dispenser
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>>174242353
If we do meet up, Ill taunt kill Viva with my Escape Plan.
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Viva is way too normal for a social interaction
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>>174243974
Replenishes 60 metal aka 2 shots every 5 seconds, attack interval of Widowmaker is .625 seconds and you are rooted there. You're welcome
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>>174244146
>Miss 2 shots
>Hit 4
>Wait for the next victim to come
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>>174244206
>Scout 2 shots you while you're waiting near a dispenser
>wait for respawn timer.
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>>174244293
>Meatshot him once
>3 shots restored
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>>174244284
And crap it got 404'd rip my loadout , thanks anyway mate !
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>>174244435
Yeaaah, I forgot to add the facial hair so I deleted it.
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>>174244527

It's really well-made , glad i got some luck .
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>>174244339
Actually it restores 2 shots; (-30) metal loss from shot (+90) metal gain from meatshot = +60 metal gain from one meatshot instead of waiting for 5 seconds. An average accuracy shot beyond 512 hu will not replenish your shot at all and you have to send in a second hoping it would land more pellets
>implying scout will let a rooted Engineer meatshot him and won't jump around and sting you.
>implying scout won't keep distance
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>>174243848
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
someone post that tiny desk engi gif
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>>174244824
Sentry is still there.
The point still stands, you get 2 free shots for every meatshot.
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>>174244897
Sentry is not there in the example is it? If a sentry is there why are you spamming metal around and keep away from your sentry, sitting near a dispenser while you need to repair it?
Dispenser alone does zilch in promoting spamming at the other hand W+M1'in on f2ps with a Medic does it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sGnIaXOGMg
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>>174245774
It is there in Vibri's example though.
If you forgot, the original point was that said player isn't really skilled.
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>>174242353
When Red comes over again, I'll ask him to Conga
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>>174220525
i fell asleep, but please appreciate this picture i'm proud of it
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>>174235275
Even though you didn't post a loadout I'll still deliver. I can only guess at your class, though.
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>>174246579
Is it fem scout?
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>>174246527
last one
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>>174246663
It could be, it could just be edgelord.
If I was going for femscout I'd have made the lashes more apparent, maybe some long hair. Looking at it again it looks like eyeliner and not just angry eyes
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>>174246714
It's obviously the same person.
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Pyro update on homewrecker:

Along with sapper removal it also repairs sentries; but it cannot build past set sentry level.
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>>174251681
>every pub is now a stalemate forever
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>>174251681
I like it
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>>174251681
>Instead of making it interesting it just makes Pyro into Engineer's lapdog.
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>>174236186
Never. It's my favorite heavy cosmetic
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>>174236887
>Finger lickin gold
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What are the best EU community servers?
>>
Reminder that we were all sub-1000 hours once
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>>174251681
tf2 Item fix proposals for the pyro

Homewrecker
>Can heal sentries on hit up to 50%

Manmelter
>Minicrits on burning targets

Degreaser
>Airblasting does not affect players
>Reflected projectiles are Crits instead of Minicrits

Third Degree
>On hit: Removes overheal

Sharpened Volcano Fragment
>Mini-Crits from behind
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>>174252549
I'm still at like 850. But less autistically speaking, I play other games
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OH MY GOD SCRAP IS DOWN
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SVF will never be good
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>>174252710
>third degree
I like it
>Homewrecker
would be a little OP and engie turtles would last forever
>Degreaser
No.

I'd love if the detonator blew up on contact as well, or if the pyro got some kinda incendiary shotgun.
Or an idea for a flamethrower maybe convert the airblast into a blast of fire. Maybe no regular spray, just a fire blast or something
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>>174253032
Blow up as in hitting a target or wall and having the M2 effect on contact?

That sounds nice, actually. Too many shitters will use it as a crutch for assist kills, though
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TWO WORDS
HUSK CANNON
>>
United States
No love
No breaks
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>>174253292
Maybe like the airblast does damage plus ignition. Idk what about primary fire though, maybe just regular flames or something, idk.
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>>174253749
No, you dummy. I don't give a shit about your bad Flame Thrower idea. I was talking about your Detonator idea
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>>174253406
My nigga. That's kinda what I meant with the fire airblast. That'd be sick
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>>174253898
Oh ok. :(
But yeah maybe the projectile bounce off a wall or something would be cool
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>>174253032
>Homewrecker
>would be a little OP and engie turtles would last forever
You would also sacrifice a pyro.

>Degreaser
>No.
Why not? It would replace the no skill Airblast + Reserve or Airblast + Axt with a skill rewarding weapon
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flak cannon/blunderbuss for scout when
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>>174252710
>>174254205
>get friendly soldier on the enemy team
>set up with him and a dispenser next to spawn
>crit whoever tries to come out

bad idea, its gonna happen
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>>174254205
>You would also sacrifice a pyro.
oh no, huge loss. honestly, the homewrecker is pretty good as is. the only issue is that you have to chill by your engie most of the match.
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>>174254493
scattergun is already flak if you use it that way
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>>174252792
Stop playing other games.
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This is added as a weapon in the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKprZDuHoW0

What would the stats be?
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>>174253406
I believe you missed kf2g, but a gauss rifle always sound nice.
Actually we have Cowmangler on Soldier but I really started to think if they can re-design Manmelter for a similar mechanic as well... Off to drawing board...

>>174254583
Homewrecker is cool as it is, just needs bleeding damage on hit imo. When I swing a huge-ass sledgehammer I expect it to at least slightly out damage a Fire Axe.
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>>174255923
Maybe instead of a damage drop in the hammer make it swing slower. Kinda like the ubersaw, which definitely doesnt suffer from thr slow swings
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>Using nothing but flaregun and backscratcher
>4 Dominations
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>>174255923
Do you know how fucking terrifying fire axes are? You can cut through walls with those, sledgehammers just make holes
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>>174257239
>femboy
>hearts in your name

end your life my dude
>>
>use stock everything
>get multiple dominations as soldier
>enemy sniper tells me to buy get a fucking hat and calls me a noob

god i love pissing people off like this
>>
Scout Mains
>Smug assholes. They think they're better at the game than everyone else, and sometimes that will actually be true. Spends a lot of time in MGE, whether they play competitive or not.
Soldier Mains
>UGC Iron players. Decked out in strange, unusual, and killstreak items. Regularly goes on pubstomps with their Medic friends/boyfriends.
Pyro mains
>Sub 1,000 hours. Oblivious to competitive play, and thinks Pyro is fine as is. If they continue playing Pyro late into their career, watch out. They are likely a furry and autistic on top of the previous.
Demoman Mains
>Generally cool, and are actually really good at the game. Those two reasons are why Demo mains are hard to find.
Heavy Mains
>Makes youtube videos and listens to Weezer all the time. Doesn't actually play Heavy that much.
Engineer Mains
>They play exclusively in pubs, and are pretty good players in that environment. Dont particularly care for competitive play.
Medic Mains
>Comes in two flavors. The first are those who want to win every match, and will do their best to push the team forward. The second are those femboy faggots that would rather be sitting under a desk than at a desk. These two types very well may overlap.
Sniper Mains
>Whether good or bad they will only play Sniper. They don't care that there's already two on the team. They don't care about the sentry holding the cart up. They wont even try to push.
Spy mains
>Even smugger assholes than Scouts. In fact, THE smuggest assholes. Refuses to play anything else, and insists that Spy is not only the hardest class in the game, but the strongest.
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>>174257239
That stuff is op when camping healthkits. I sometimes use Panic Attack instead of Flare for the gig of it.
Panic Attack is just plain funny against Spy and Demoman.
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>>174258048
demo main detected
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>>174258161
it's common knowledge that demo mains are the nicest
t. scout main
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>>174258243
demo main detected
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>>174258293
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>>174258243
Lol, no
Demoman mains tend to think every other class is shit, and that they are even more smart than soldiers.
And 99% of them just stickyspam while hiding behind their teammates
They also never take responsibility for dying its always someone elses fault. If they get outplayed by a scout they bitch and moan about other people shouldve killed the scout because their poor weapons "are not suited for them" QQ
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Face full of smokes cosmetics when?
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>>174258389
demo main detected
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>>174258048
Who the heck if Weezer?
Ofc i don't play heavy that much. It's just really boring to play only one class.
In fact, i know one heavy main id/gribyshka64 who play heavy only. Nice person, but this shit is autistic af.
Soldier part is pretty accurate, though.

t. soldier/heavy main
>>
>Reading a doujin
>Think it's lesbians
>Turns out one is a futa
>Well alright
>Turns out the other one was a trap
I have never felt so betrayed in my entire life
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>>174258625
link right now
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>>174258420
this is true for lower level players
http://www.teamfortress.tv/199

>>174258607
he was referencing funke
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>>174258673
https://e-hentai.org/g/1052461/56f687bc56/
Warning: furfaggotry inside
I genuinely thought it was going to be lesbians ffs
>>
>>174258161
>>174258293
but its the truth. Demo takes the most skill to use. Thats why you hardly see any Demo mains.
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>>174258876
>Furfaggotry
>/tf2g/
Its like pottery.
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>>174258876
>western
>doujin
What the fuck anon
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>>174259116
>Demo takes the most skill to use
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>>174259116
>takes the most skill
That's what literally everyone says about their favorite class
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>>174259172
In hindsight i should've just written porn, but doujin gets the point across faster
>>174259167
What one wanks it to and what one is are two different things
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>>174259335
My favourite classes doesnt need skill at all.
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>>174259212
>>174259335
im just speaking from personal experience. actually trying to hit pipes is way harder than clicking on people with the scattergun or clicking on the floor with the rocket launcher.
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>>174258161
Demo mains I see are typically smug, stickies spamming niggers.
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>>174259412
Keep telling yourself that, faggot.
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>>174259442
what are your favorite classes
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>>174259621
>>174258607
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>>174258625
>reading a doujin
>futa fucking trap
>trap becomes pregnant
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>>174259894
>Used to fill my PSP with tons of porn.
>Used to use it to wack off while holding it in one hand.

It was a simpler time.
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>>174258876
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Finally back and able to post my epic, plz don't ban me any more.
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>futa
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>tfw cant stop playing TF2 pubs
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>>174258876
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>Liking anything that doesn't have the tag: chubby,bbw,big asses, anal, traps, crossdressing, forced, impregnation.
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Not
>diapers, cock vore, guro, netorare, mind break, the state of Ohio, nose fetish, armpit fetish, voyeurism, and floor tiles
I had high hopes for this place
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>Comp MM
>Enemy team has hacker
>"Oh we will just taunt in front of your spawn, sorry about the hacker"
>Go sniper
>Actually kill the enemy hacker a few times even though hes spinbotting
>After we cap the first point the enemy team starts pocketing and helping the hacker
I fucking hate people that just pretend to give a shit when all they want is a free win
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>Not being 100% vanilla
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>>174260775
>liking anything other than paizuri, fellatio, vaginal, anal, defloration, nakadashi, big asses, big tits, femdom, milf, gyaru and stockings
>>
i just like yandere desu
i dont care what other tags are in there
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>reading porn
>not watching it
*tch* I knew I was dealing with pubbos...........
>>
someone made a whole game for your fetish
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>>174261687
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> not having sex with your gf
Oh wait
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>>174261765
Truly one of us.
>>
i dont like that meme where normies flood into your fetish and ruin it completely, totally fucking just everything because theyre fucking retarded
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>>174261923
>>
sure the dev is autistic and a raging faggot but the likely never to be finished sandbox build is free and you could probably whack off to that
>>
>>174261957
Make me like him even more.
>>
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197963068195/
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>>174262240
Plz stop posting this u ragging homo
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>being anything but submissive to the point where you would be willing to harm yourself for sexual pleasure as an outlet for your overly domineering parents that planted the seeds of your reclusive nature at a young age
>not being obsessed with extremes due to catholic school failing to teach you about sexuality and not giving you any chance to experience first hand, leaving porn to show you the way instead
>he's never questioned his own gender, idolizing the women in his porn, only to come to the sad conclusion that you've only ever felt that way because you desire to be longed for and in reality you're just lonely and feel worthless
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>Being the guy above me
>Not the guy below me
>>
>>174261765
>>174261957
>YandereDev is yandere himself
like poetry
>>
>>174258876
How do you fuck up like that? It's even in English.
>>
I can't believe there are people like this either
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>not wanting to pound vivas normie ass, until ever time he ubers blaris he thinks of me.
>>
>>174262847
viva is a disgusting spic though
>>
>>174261765
>>174262089
>>174261957
Kiwifarms have a goldmine of lulz about that guy.
>>
Yeah, there is an ED about him too.
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>>174262847
>>174262989
I know right? Why not have sex with the superior spic, Wanderer?
>>
>avatarfags still exist
>>
does liking dragons make me a furfag?
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>>174261148
>floor tiles
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hmm yes very epic
>>
The Back Scatter is actually really fun.
>>
>>174262682
I don't look at tags, i just hover over the title and see if the preview is interesting
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>>174261148
>state of ohio
I wonder how he's doing, think came to terms with the fact that he's was basically date raped?
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>>174263719
>I don't look at tags
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>>174263907
wut
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>>174261957
get rekt shitter
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>wanting to have sex with spics at all, not wanting to gain their trust through continued purchases at there taco truck so when the great Americas war begins and slave labor is reinstated you will already have a flock of willing indentured servants to make greasy mexican food for you
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http://tf2r.com/ksw1tdb.html
http://tf2r.com/ksw1tdb.html
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>>174264229
i thought you burger had enough greasy food yourself already
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my wife is black and my porn is asian and i'd fuck just about anything except a spic
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>>174264069
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>watching porn when you have a wife
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>>174263707
I get hooked up with Winger and Basher lately, what do you use with it?

>>174258048
>>174258741
FuNKe sucked. Rydercycle was a better guy who actually plays Heavy but he quit TF2 recently. There's also Maga but he hardly plays Heavy at all, and I doubt he knows the ropes of the class at all.
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>>174264581
Probably better than fucking Sha'queefa.
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>>174264317
This guy is furry
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>>174264606
Bonk and Atomizer.
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>>174264328
Not nearly enough juan, not nearly enough.
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>>174264606
>caring about youtube 'celebrities'
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You're in a pub and this guy pops critz on you
OwO
What do you do?
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>>174264681
Ironically, yes
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"Indian" here. I get laid pretty regularly (2-3 times a week on average) and every girl I've ever fucked has been white - except one Bosnian but she still pretty much looked white.

I'm fit and have a decent job and nice apartment, so that helps I guess.

It's sad that there are brown guys that come on 4chan and see threads.like this and think they'll never get laid because of their skin color. If you're full of self-loathing and dumb enough to believe your women problems are all based on being brown, then your issues lie elsewhere.

Trust me. 95% of the pussy I've ever gotten is from type-A college cardio bunnies. If I can do it, you can.

Just sayin'
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>>174265262
i like how you made a serious chart and then put gunboats that high just to farm some replies
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>>174265023
Panic
>>
I recently found out Stefan Burnett was my swim coach at YMCA about 12 years ago. I know it was him because of the tattoos, only he didn't have as many back then. His hair was like a half-fro and his beard was much patchier than it is now. I'd go to his class every Sunday until one day he cancelled and they didn't have a replacement. He was back the next week, but he kept skipping every other week or so until he just didn't show up at all. The last time I saw him he had two need tattoos, I believe the ones pertaining to alchemy, and his eyes were red. He kneeled told me the center had decided to let him go, and as a parting gift gave me one of those floaty paddle boards. It was black with a metallic shark dragon thing on it. Sadly I don't know where it is now.
>>
http://tf2r.com/kad46pk.html
http://tf2r.com/kad46pk.html
http://tf2r.com/kad46pk.html
http://tf2r.com/kad46pk.html
http://tf2r.com/kad46pk.html
http://tf2r.com/kad46pk.html
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>>174265384
t. ''''''''''16'''''''''' yo peaceful immigrant
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>>174265435
they're cancer in pubs
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>>174265384
Nobody cares pajeet, this is a thread about team fortor too, if you wanna go project your success some where, try it on /pol/. You'll get hundreds of replies and a thread all to yourself.
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>pull off insane headshot on enemy spy trying to escape
>hear ammo pickup and KKKKKRRSSHHHHHHHH noise
>disconnect from server immediately
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>>174265023
Panic like I always do when rando pub meds attach to me.
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>replying to pasta

>>174265580
not really, shit like sentries, pocketed heavies or stuff that needs a significant amount of teamwork to take out can be frustrating to play against in pubs because your teammates do fuck all
gunboats soldier doesn't really fit that description
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>>174265023
Tell him to switch to uber, we're on offense, dumbass
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>>174265723
Just finish him off, the headshot is what counted, it mean you are good.
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I don't know why i thought it'd be amusing being able to dominate a fake quantum
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>>174265982
>jump at one
>kill him
>jump back to medikit
>repeat forever because pub players are shit and they can't kill one non retarded player in a 1vs1
>if you encounter someone non retarded just jump away
>that one decent guy on the opposite team is now fighting without a team
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>>174266318
>more deaths then dominations
get that shit out of here
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Enginiggers unite.
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>>174266318
i've been getting confused with that guy pretty frequently
we could mge to decide who gets to keep the name but we main different classes so it's not going to be fair anyways and he has like 4k hours so idk if i can beat him
my current alias is bad but i don't really want to change it again because my last change wasn't that long ago and people are starting to recognize me
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>>174266318
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>>174266642

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/b/b4/Engineer_autocappedintelligence01.wav?t=20100709021557
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>>174266642
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>>174267445
>as many deaths as dominations
I guess I'll count it as a pubstomp, but watch yourself
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>>174267628
thanks i try my hardest
>>
Why the FUCK does Outpost sometimes sign me out and then refuse to let me sign back in?
>>
everyone gets 175 health and gets 100% speed

what happens
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>>174268241
TF2C
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did crona really fuck a baby
>>
everyone gets 100 health and 266% speed

what happens
>>
>>174268896
quake 3
>>
Everyone gets 300 health and can instantly teleport around the map at a single thought

What happens
>>
did wanderer really took a shit on a baby's chest
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>>174265723
You gave up too early. Sydney Sleeper or some SMG tracking drives DR Spies mad.

>>174265023
Try to position myself on a rampslide, stairs or behind boxes and railing to evade possible damage in combat. When there are no people around I follow narrow doorways or stairs to the nearest healthkit. If I caught no one at the darn open area then I just simply scold Medic for popping too early.
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traded for a flamer with a retarded name so you guys get to make it worse !!
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>>174269425
BENIS SHOT FIRES HAHAHA
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>>174269425
golden benis
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>>174269425
Show the current name
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>>174269497
fug
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>>174269425
pee joke
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>>174269662
my pesis hurts :/
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>>174269662
pyro update never
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>>174269734
too real
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The Classic

Level 1-100 Sniper Rifle
+30% damage bonus
+70% faster firing speed
Charge and fire shots independent of zoom
Headshots mini-crit unless fully charged
-25% damage on body shot
Must stay perfectly still to fire or begin charging
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>>174267445
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>>174269425
Name: burns when I pee
Desc: You gave me blueballs
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The Loch-n-Load

Level 10 Grenade Launcher
+25% projectile speed
+Damage scales up to 30% higher against slow moving & stationary targets.
-Launched bombs shatter on surfaces
-Damage scales down to 30% lower against fast moving targets.

130% speed = 70 damage
100% speed = 100 damage
>>
70% speed = 130 damage

fuck
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>>174269953
>faster firing speed
Aren't hitscan bullets near-instant fire? Shouldn't it be a faster charge time?
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>>174270889
nigger what
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>>174270889
I think he meant faster firing rate, in TFC you could use your sniper rifle like a semi-auto
>>
>>174270486
>>174270865
>destroy heavies even faster than before
>be even more useless against scouts
???
what are you trying to do
>>
>>174266318
>>174266696
what do
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>>174271310
I'm sure that nobody could actually mistrake you for that other guy, he's shit while you're prem
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>>174214357

didnt touch this game since 2009

are female characters a thing?

are there leagues without shitty unlocks (weapons)?

Why isnt this game dead yet?
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>>174271415
we are both lft in open
that's the problem
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>>174271310
Write your name in a custom font.
So far, I'm the only
Wanderer
ever.
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>>174271451
no
yes
i dont know
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>>174271532
hm, that's true
I don't think he cares much about his name, just ask him to switch
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>>174271618
eh, the font is width letters, but it didn't appear. Oh well. My point still stands, custom font.
>>
REPET QUESION
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>>174271451
>are female characters a thing?
On modded servers. No official female character but that doesn't prevent people from enjoying fem-Pyro or fem-Scout skins from modding sites.
>are there leagues without shitty unlocks (weapons)?
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Competitive_item_restrictions
http://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=news
>Why isnt this game dead yet?
"Hang in there, we got this Pyro update wrapped up before the eventual Heavy update" - Valve, 2016
"Hang in there, we know we fucked up with comp mode but we can make it better" - (Also) Valve, 2016
Also tradefags, bots, active players yadda yadda.
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>>174271618
his steam name is .Quantum while mine is just quantum
didn't stop that guy from asking me if i was him yesterday and i got confused with him in a tf2c game last week too
one time we were on the same team and people were trying to do callouts, that was confusing as shit

>>174271729
i'll add him tomorrow
hopefully i won't have to come up with a new one myself i'm awful at that
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Alright, let's have a bump and...
I got a small question. I've been following humblebundle, gog and greenmangaming what other good game sellers out there? Besides Steam? No kingu or G2A shit please.
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How do we nerf it?
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>>174274536

After the minis were nerfed along with the wrangler, I'd say it's fine where it is.
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>>174274536
Nerf it?
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>>174274536

t. sub 100 hours gaytower scout
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>>174274536
>min has no more knockback

done
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>tfw you've given up on TF2 and moved to OW but it sucks even more than TF2
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>>174274536
It sucks way worse than a jag engineer now. If anything, it needs a buff (but i dont want it to have one)
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>>174274831

>giving up on TF2

Why would anyone do that? It's not like it's impossible to improve at the game.
>>
reminder to always look forward to something
its only like 10 more days until the music discs get here and (((a month or two))) for the update.
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WHEN THE FUCK IS THAT PONYFUCKER JILL GOING TO MAKE THAT WEAPON BALANCE BLOGPOST
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OK /TF2G/ Ranch......or.....Cool Ranch........
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I still can't believe a ponyfucker GRILL makes decisions on this games future

Fucking KEK
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jill is a male though, and i think his name is john :/
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>>174275747
Ranch?
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>>174275206
it's impossible for the game to improve if valve never works on it
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>>174275693
>>174275890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VMdAqNxLNc
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>>174275747
>>174275980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw9l_nglvNk
I think you should kill yourself Anonymous
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>>174275969
For some reason that makes me feel better

Just another autist then, and autists are usually good with numbers
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>>174275693
>implying the update is even coming
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJfMZcKNByc
>sniper mains will defend this
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>>174276469
What's to defend ?
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>>174274536
If anything it needs a slight nerf, like dropping sapper in one-hit. Also RR needs a nerf over distance falloff and SoHo needs a passive buff
Mini-sentries are fine, but I'd like to see Gunslinger Engis helping standard lvl3 Sentry Engis more.
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>>174276469
*jumped from a high counter*

I'M GAY

*proceeds to chuckle*
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>>174276593
THE GAY COMMUNITY
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>>174225464
needs the bat outta hell
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>>174276469
>"So they don't get shot by people like me"
Actually a smooth way to say "I'm not gay, but I have no problem with shooting people as long as they aren't gay"
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>>174276469
>>174276817
J.P.Lowrie is married to GLaDOS' -also Administrator's- voice actress Ellen McLain. Lucky wankah.
>>
>he divorced his kangaroo wife
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>>174277048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zy7CifYbHX4
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>>174276619
>think about "buff"
>type "nerf"
Damn.
>>
i wish there was more tf2 music parody like how minecraft gotten.

i wish for more wacky adventure gmod/sfm like how fnaf gotten.

i guess we cant have nice things :/
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>>174277846
tf2 has a shit ton of gmod sfm shit what the fuck are you on about
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>>174277846

You mean like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqdA-edLhUQ ?

There's shit tons of these things. What are you talking about?
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>>174277903
but i also wish for sexy and good ones like those fnaf ones :/
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>>174265023
pull out the escape plan
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>>174278070
faggot
>>
rude :/
>>
Does TF2 have pusspuss?
>>
No.
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>EU's upward server died

jammit valve update your hecking game
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DO IT JUST DO IT!
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>>174279459
Klannsmann
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>>174279459
Keemstar the Killer King
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>>174279459
Kurt Cobain's Last Hoodie
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>>174279459
Neoliberal Facialwear
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>>174279459
Trump Supporter
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>>174279549
I might use that if it takes too long.
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>>174279459
Penis head lol
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>>174279459
>>174279674
wew that was fast
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>>174279674
And another one.
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>>174279869
Crafted by Keemstar the Killer King
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>>174279869
I like it in the ass
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>>174279869
twist niggers heads off
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>>174279869
#stillwithher
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>>174279674
Bernouts are commies
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>>174279869
DJ KAHLED
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>>174279869
I masturbate to ponies
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>>174279869

んなあーーーーーー~
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>>174279869
i wish for a white genocide
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>>174279869
blacked.com
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>>174279869
Die muslims and taco people
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>>174279459
Haxx0r's h00d of h*ckin' haphazard haggis
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>>174279459
OwO
>>
>>174279869
>>174280269
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>>174274536
>Combat Mini-Sentry
Buff back to its former strength. Is placed with full health, rapid healing while building, quick turning, etc. Can only be acquired in MvM via the Disposable Sentry upgrade tree. You'll see why in a minute.
>Southern Hospitality
Builds a Combat Sentry. A fast-building level 1 sentry that cannot be upgraded. Effectively what the PDQ was and what the Southern Hospitality was actually intended to be, that is until the TF2 community collectively noticed a Robot Scout arm blueprint in the background of the Engineer Update teaser and clamored to have a robot arm for Engineer, which ultimately became what we know as the Gunslinger. The fire vulnerability makes more sense now, as the Engineer is more liable to be roaming the flanks and is more likely to run into a meandering Pyro.
Can upgrade Dispensers and Teleporters to level 4.
>Gunslinger
Grants +25% higher damage potential to Engineer's other weapons in close range. This bumps the Shotgun and Pistol's potential from 150% rampup to 175% (same as Scattergun).
Sentry is replaced with Repair Node. Repair Node periodically fires penetrative pulses of energy (they stop once they reach the building but can tag an enemy who gets in the way) towards friendly buildings within a range roughly 50% wider than a sentry range. Rather than proximity, the Node will prioritize targets based on repairs needed, resupply needed (sentry ammo), upgrades, and will desperately try to target enemy players if there are zero friendly buildings to try to repair. It passively will repair itself but cannot self-upgrade. Higher level gives it better repair/upgrade rates towards other buildings.
Solves the issue of the Repair Node denying a team of an essential support building at the expense of the area denial that he's known for, expecting himself to defend it with his own enhanced firepower.
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>>174279869
kurt cobain's own nigger killer
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>>174279869
just kiding its muselk
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>>174279869
he will nut inside us
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>>174279869
#1 b4nny hater
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>>174279869
die white girls
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>>174279869
get your lol in at 4chan.org/pol
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>>174280491
God
No....
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>>174279869
Nuke Assad
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>>174279869
trump supporter
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>>174279869
peanus weenus hat haha :D
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>>174279869

ちょろいなー~
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>>174279869
literally made from a niggers foreskin
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>>174279869
Punch SJWs
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>>174281186
wot
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>>174279869

んなっなっなー
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>>174281334
about time
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>>174281334
>>
man, this thread was getting into /pol/ a bit :/
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>>174281334
What weapons would go with the hat?
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Is Fred still Dell's dad, or was that retconned?
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>>174281590

>200x112
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>>174281513
Cant hide from /pol/.
Next you are going to see it on your furry RP server.
>>
Who here /actual guerilla meme warfare/?
>>
Who here /russian meme agent/?
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>>174281590
my sides are lost
>>
who here /spent his childhood on ctf-face and q3dm17/?
>>
I recognize post styles and report them if they are off topic (which is most of the thread) if I don't like the person behind the post.
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>>174281937
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>>174281590
>>174281937
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chaingun weapon type for heavy when
>no spinup
>less ammo
>have to reload
>walk faster while shooting
>more accurate but less damage ramp up
they even made a concept gun for it, why didnt they include something similar
>>
>>174282065
who am I then?
>>
>>174282343
epic xD
>>
>>174282170

Not sure, but I think it's because it conflicts with the concept of what they wanted heavy to be. What would a more mobile but less powerful heavy offer on a team versus a less mobile but equally if not more powerful heavy on the defensive? Generalization and jack of all trades trends with no checks tend to be what kills depth in fpses, and TF2 is the very picture of specialization when it comes to its class roles. That's the core of its gameplay dynamic.
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>>174282473
thanks you too
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>>174265503
Reminder~
>>
Will the Sharpened Volcano Fragment ever be useful?
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>>174283125
No.
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>>174283125
i dont get why everyone blows the "uselessness" out of proportion, i mean, its like a regular axe but lights people on fire, thats pretty cool
>>
>>174283125
in Medieval Mode it already is
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>>174283435

It's more the issue of how pyro functions as a class and that despite having large numbers of melee weapons, virtually none of them offer any substantial differences in gameplay playstyle or reliable ways of killing their target without sacrificing themselves.
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>>174283125
see
>>174252710
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>>174283435
Because the Flamethrower lights people on fire with a larger range, higher damage, player and building penetration, and doesn't rely on melee hitreg. Why in the fuck would you even bother with the SVF outside of melee-only environments?
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>>174261148
>floor tiles

>>174261957
>not taking criticism from your hero and turning that shit into gold
Nigga, criticism is what keeps bad artists from getting better, and what makes a good artist great.
Whatever was wrong, that shill should've just fucking worked hard at it.
>>
>>174282170
Just use Family Business, best shotty in game imo. Can bumrush Demoman and own them, pelts roamers or pesky Scouts away.
Draw it then run to ramps to rev up, especially HLH needs ramps or slight height difference to be effective. Be cheeky and get in melee range to punch people nearby gates.
Alternatively run behind cover to jump-rev out, evade becoming a large target at open areas and save your Medic from sniper fire.
Downside; it's not Sandvich, you can't push effectively without it for prolonged times (unless you suffer burst damage like stickies, headshots or backstabs often).
Have to play safer by taking retreats to healthkits for your Medic. Be mindful and lead your Medics to healthpacks or prepare for chat drama.

>>174283125
When they finally give a throwable gasoline canister to Pyro like hinted in the comics with the update.
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why does no-one play lakeside anymore :(

i just want a populated pub to fuck around in
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>do raffle exclusively for tf2g
>Get negative ratings
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>>174284023
looks like eric cartman in the thumbnail lel
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I don't really care about votes. I still make the raffles.
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>>174284541
it's probably because you spam super fucking hard and are generally a huge faggot

people aren't gonna like you because free stuff
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>>174285883
I only made a single raffle
im not Masketta

I gave out the edgy sniper hat
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>>174286059
iunno then lol
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>>174285883
>spam super fucking hard
?
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>>174282613
then why does the sniper have the huntsman? why does the demoman have shields? why does the engineer have the gunslinger? why does the pyro have flare guns? why does soldier have backpacks and shoes?
all of those weapons change the class pretty dramatically
sniper is close-middle range and spam
demoman is demoknight
engineer gets to be more aggressive but not defensive
pyro has long range option
soldier is a jack of all trades with his backpacks and has insane mobility with his gunboats

and what other playstyles does heavy have?
class has been stay revved up with a medic on your ass for an entire decade. hes stale as fuck
he needs a gun with some dramatic +/- stat on it
it would also be fun to be more mobile with him without making it broken

>>174284023
i love the family business, but you cant say its a serious concept. its a gimmick
scout does more damage up close and minigun deters others far better, and sandvich can heal you or your teammate
thats a really big sacrifice
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>>174286242
the sniper is still 1 shot 1 kill with huntsman, doesn't change much but distance.

>shields

no one FUCKING KNOWS

>engineer

its like exactly the same but more spammy and easier to destroy

>flare guns

real shite long range option that gets outclassed by everything but i mean thats pyro

>soldier
the backpacks make sense, but gunboats do completely change soldier into a pocket team role into a flank holder role, but thats actually pretty cool.
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is trying to mark up a max's head because of voices from below is on it even worth it?
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>>174286242

Because all of the other ones you listed are either tradeoffs from the original role of the class thus leaving a potential weakness in the lineup to be exploited, or are viable sidegrades. Also, some of those weapons are the results of new devs who have different ideas of what TF2 is supposed to be about mucking things up, which is why TF2 is in such heavy need of a weapon overhaul right now.

>sniper huntsman

This is a massive tradeoff of sightline control for the -potential- to score headshots and burst damage, but only by forcing sniper to be even closer to the frontline. Considering how weak he is already, there's a reason the huntsman isn't seriously used in comp.

>demoknight

Again, losing the power to sticky spam bumps demoman off of the highest damage dealing class on the lineup for possible melee shenanigans. If the enemy team is competent, this won't work though demoknight can be rewarding in the right circumstances. Still lacks the general usefulness of sticky demo.

>engineer

Engineer with stock sentry is meant to be a defensive option. Swapping that for pseudo offense that is partially reliant on good dm skills is a definite tradeoff. Defending a payload cart with minis does not work against even the most basic of teams. His offense relies just as much on his shotgun with gunslinger than just minis. That is a definite tradeoff in class roles

1/2
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>>174286242

>Pyro

This is one of the classes that I feel needs the most work from Valve to fit into the current concept they have for TF2. Close range damage with some long range that is very hit or miss, typically requiring the target to already be on fire in order to achieve kills. He needs a rework of either his weapons or his class to better fit with the other classes that all have long range options to keep him from being effective.

>Soldier

Soldier is closest to jack of all trades, but he is the only class to do this. Combined with his possibly high mobility easily being shut down by any number of hitscan classes, and the backpacks/gunboats being definite sidegrades that require the soldier to have precise aim for directs or risk failing the bomb I'd say soldier is fair where he is.

>Heavy

The 2nd class most in need of a rework in my opinion. The way Valve has developed him has left him with very little options in terms of other playstyles. He is also the most reliant on game sense and positioning to be effective, which are two of the skills that are hardest to develop in TF2.
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>>174286242
It is a big sacrifice but fatscout is not a gimmick, nor a meta. Just useful to position faster and fend yourself before you rev-up.
Especially when you encounter huge resistances with more possibilities of dropping dead in an instant without taking cover.
If it was really a gimmick, you wouldn't get Shotgun as your default stock loadout.
As you may know, revving infront of a gate gets you a good old fashioned headshot, revving for prolonged times near flanks gets you a backstab.
Revving up at the open areas, gets you both above, plus roamers and Scouts.
Also fatscout really tickles the nerves of spammy Demoman when you run over them, guaranteed.

>and what other playstyles does heavy have?
fatscout? Alas your main purpose is supressing enemy Engineers and Demoman
>he needs a gun with some dramatic +/- stat on it
Nah, he just needs more synergy with Engineer.
Perhaps some bonus after taking teleporter, ammo health or buffs for more ammo cost on revv-up.

>>174287751
>He is also the most reliant on game sense and positioning to be effective, which are two of the skills that are hardest to develop in TF2.
This guy got it.
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>>174288407
>revving for prolonged times near flanks gets you a backstab.
But according to here I'm supposed to hear spies footsteps, yet I literally never do over the sound of the gun firing/explosions.
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>>174288574
Since when you supposed to hear footsteps over your own revv-up noise? That's impossible unless you stop momentarily to bait him for a decloak.
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>>174288893
>not exclusively using the Tomislav
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post meme maps
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>>174289129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srEAKeLRi5A
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>>174289129
every payload map that doesn't have "water" in its name
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>>174288407

>This guy got it.

Still remember when polk played. He really opened my eyes to just how nuanced heavy is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ywOXJPTjYc
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>>174289129
2-shit
>mfw people pick sniper and snipe the enemy teams snipers and barely do anything to contribute to the game
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>>174271451
Why would you want more classes?

Stock is still the best in near all regards. If you have trouble dealing with unlocks, get good.

The game isnt dead because the base gameplay is great, and is still being supported by its community and developers.
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>>174289420
>start sniping from battlements
>bored after less than a minute, no ones walking through
>actually get in there to frag as other 5 snipers hold down the fort
>enemy still gets past impenetrable wall of Australians to cap the intel and kill every single sniper along the way
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>>174289420
>>174289365
i meant stuff like the highertower map that takes 15 minutes to cap
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>>174274536
minis now have the dps of a level 1 and start at 90 health
removed max HP buff
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>>174289129
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=899354757
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>1/2 Watch jojo
>3/4 Watch streams
>5/6 Play games
>7/8 Sleep
>9/0 Raffu
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>>174288985
I forgot Tomi is a thing really. As for the main question:
>>174288574
I think you may not have height advantage and Spy divebombs you from above or your Medic tiptaps around alot so you don't hear it coming.
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>Having a nice, relatively even game, performing well
>High-ranking player joins and shreds entire team by himself in minutes
>singlehandedly carries the enemy team, scoring more than twice the next best person on his team
I'm at a loss. How do you know when someone is really good and whooping ass, and when someone's hacking?
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fuck why am i so invested when nobody else is
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>>174292836
>How do you know when someone is really good and whooping ass, and when someone's hacking?
Doing twitchy 180s or spins; hitting everything in sight but staggering or having a hardtime navigating the map when on the ground, bumping at boxes or walls near doorways.
Seeing invisible Spies at the open areas, accurately checking every disguised Spy and hunt them down.
Constantly bagging headshots despite strafes and movement, hitting airshots constantly but missing at slightest airsteer.
Seem to be locking and engaging at players behind walls despite gunfires blaring around him.
They should be obvious enough, really.

>>174289373
Thanks for the vid
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this general got hit by a crocket haha cus its dead
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*eats dalokohs bar before being crocketed*

pssh
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Why is it that on a game of 32 player turbine, in hallways full of people that will shred demos, heavies, soldiers and anything else.....HALF OF MY TEAM GETS PUSHED BACK IN FEAR OF A SINGLE MANLET WITH SOME SHITTY PISTOL
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Whatchu say lil boy
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>>174297405

Aggression is one of the harder things to learn in the game, since it's tied to game sense and confidence in your dm abilities.

New players have virtually no understanding of the movements of the enemy team or what their capabilities may be depending on what weapons they're using. They play more as individuals entirely focused on what's immediately in front of their screen and aren't good at assessing the map as a whole and thus knowing when to be aggressive and when to back off. Thus, being scared of dying they just back out instead.
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Post weapons you want in-game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uG_ZVl2kUQ&t

Basically a pistol version of the frontier justice.
Imagine how much crits you'll unload onto people's unsuspecting faces.
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>soldier rocket jumps and shoots
>I mistime my air blast
>air blast an arrow and kill the soldier

Well that isn't happening again.
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>>174301924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSilIyQ5Ic
>tfw no guns in the game that do burning gibs

its all i want

i can frag all day if i had this
i dont even care if i miss
i just want burning gibs
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>>174301924
>Giving engineers/scouts a second shotgun
for what purpose
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When a match ends in a stalemate (server runs out of time, in-game clock counts down, etc.) players are stripped of all their weapons except melee and respawning is disabled.

y/n
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>>174303467

Fuck sudden death. That shit's stupid.
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>>174303467
No no, you need to give them crits and shrink the map
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>>174302798
>scouts have a sentry gun they can get the mini crits from.
Huh..didn't realize scout, from team fortress 2, voiced by Nathan Vetterlein can build sentries.

Anyway I think it'll be a good sidegrade to the pistol. Maybe make it 4 shots instead of 6 to make it more balanced.
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What is jill? Is a transg, trans or gay?
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So why hasn't Valve implemented the stopwatch format to payload maps yet? I know they're scared about intimidating the player base, but even the newest person can figure out that "Hey if our team capped 4 points in five minutes, and the other team does the same but it takes them 7 minutes then that means we're better".
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>>174304462
They did.
When casual mode was first released, PL maps used a stopwatch system.

Everybody hated it and Valve switched back to the standard version.
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>>174304462
It didn't last. This is the same playerbase that considered cp_snowplow a brainbuster of a map.
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Which meme mode deserves another map(s)?
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m3anny
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>>174279464
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>>174306175
Medievel

Played a really good payload map way back when on Mecha the Slag's server
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I can't say that I am hopeful for the Pyro update, but can only wish for the best.

God knows they'll probably add like 2 weapons and a reskin, change some values, and call it a day.
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What classes kill best?
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>>174308645
A Demoman that can aim
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>>174308645
soldier
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>>174308645
a pocketed pyro or heavy against a bunch of shitters

>>174310139
absolutely not this. soldier is only halfway decent for killing 1-2 people at a time.
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Does /tf2g/ know how to rocket jump?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12771618

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd9i9ls7u7U
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>>174311169
trying to learn how to combo sticky jumps for fun now
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ive been trying jump_summer and jump_elephant
thoses are pretty easy and fun
dunno about demo maps
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>>174308645
sniper
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>>174311169
Straight up, yes
I still haven't mastered the speeding along in a line though
Also don't have gunboats so feels pointless for games, feels bad
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hmmm
http://www.strawpoll.me/12771788
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What's this new meme with the unironic gibus usage?
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Demo jump !
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medic plays are hard to appreciate for most players that dont play medic
there are basically 3 kinds of medic plays
>medic escapes a bad situation
>medic hits an epic arrow to save / kill someone
>some dumb backcap play that somehow works
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2014 offclass play
if every heavily "rebalanced"weapont was reverted to 2013 the game would be much more enjoyable imo
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>>174317630
but then you have the american and asian comp community that mistake a sniper offclass for "fucking around" and start whining about any minimal diversion from the meta
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>>174317095
>some dumb backcap play that somehow works
Hehehe https://youtu.be/HNWPfIsN7Z4
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>>174317630
the axtinguisher was fine when it could crit from the back or mini crit from the front. i saw that one pyro guy sketch or something make some insane plays with it using the detonator. old old axtinguisher was bullshit, but old axtinguisher meant you had to get creative to use it right, which is better than the useless new axtinguisher we have now.
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>>174317730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJfiOXrd1oQ
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>>174317730
exactly the play i had in mind when i typed that lmfaoo
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>>174317821
i hate the kind of rebalances that take away the "special" things a weapon has
for example: Quick-fix not being able to overheal was ok IMO and made the weapon interesting
Now all mediguns make you go as fasts as the healing target wich makes them all more "samey" in regards to quick-fix
lame rebalances imo
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>>174318189
Exactly why I ask in pubs why meds use quick-fix on offense with 50 scouts when they could use stock and bring serious some offense
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>>174318319
quickfix has +40% faster healing rate wich is a huge deal and SHOULD BE NERFED INMEDIATELLY
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>pomson engineers
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>dead generals
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>bison soldiers
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it's always dead at this time though
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>yuropoor at work, amerifats asleep

gee i wonder why its dead
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Prolly cause the game is dead af
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axtinguisher fix
+crits burning targets
-20% damage penalty
-no random critical hits
+no stupid fucking faggot draw speed penalty

as it stands you can literally do more damage with flames in the time it takes to draw the fucking retard axe, with longer range, less risk and multi-target damage. it's the most useless melee in the game, spare the caber maybe.
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>viva is awake before 6 am just to shitpost
don't you have a job to brag about? it's 3 over here for me, what the fuck is your excuse? your sleep schedule must be hot garbage.
>>
<he doesn't sleep in till 4 PM and work the night shift

hahahahahahahah
>>
I always wake up at around 5:30 every morning so I could head to work at 7

That being said, I passed out last night while watching Raw. Definitely before 11 and a little after 10, so I woke up at around 4 AM this time aroudn
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>viva goes to work on less than 6 hours of sleep just so he has time to shitpost
have you considered not doing that? it's not like you're exactly missing much. i mean that's really pathetic, i don't know what else to say about that.
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I always get 6 hours of sleep. I do just fine

Stop your blood clot crying
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>>174321467
hmm

so this is why comp players have no idea how the actual game works
>>
you know you're supposed to get 8 hours of sleep, right? i mean it must be hard enough getting dates when you're a mexican, but you must look like a wreck not getting enough sleep. collectively speaking, you're missing out on months of sleep if this is a normal thing for you.
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>>174321350
>I passed out last night while watching Raw
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>>174321635
the irony in this post is too much
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I've got a good life, and I've been sleeping for 6 hours or less a night for the longest time. What's your excuse for your 8 hours and trash life?

>>174321687
Yeah, man. Raw is boring as fuck. I can't sit through 3 hours of bad promos and average matches
>>
you'd live better if you actually slept for 8 hours like you're supposed to, dumbass. only you could try to double down this hard and make not getting enough fucking sleep seem like a good thing.
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>he doesn't sleep 14 hours a night and lucid dream about a better reality where he's good at video games
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And there you go posting about me again. How many times do I gotta tell you I'm getting along just fine? I'll focus on my nice life and you can start paying more attention to your mediocre one rather than trying to give bad advice to good people

>>174322069
Fuck Caso Cerrado. That shit is fake as fuck
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>viva gets upset when people post about him for once
stop the fucking presses, we got a story
>>
>telling you to get the healthy amount of sleep
>bad advice
Viva, stop
>>
If you could remove one poster from here, who would it be?
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>>174322470
viva
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"Hey, Viva. I know you've got a good life and all, especially because I'm so envious about it, but I think you should switch up your routine a ton"

Nah, if it ain't broken, it doesn't need fixing

>>174322470
Human and 26 seem to be gone, so I'll go with that one guy who posts his trash soldier or that one furry trip from back in the day that shows up from time to time
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Anonymous
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My dad.
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>go to swap weapons for killstreak kits
>see this instead
Neat
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>>174321467
Why is Pyrovision and noisemakers banned?
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"hey viva, maybe you should put down that fucking crack pipe because that's not healthy and you're going to be miserable all the fucking time."
"wow, what an inconvenience to my tightly knit schedule, get out of my face. you clearly must be poor and jealous that i can afford so much crack rock cocaine."
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What a terrible comparison

I don't touch drugs or alcohol. Hell, I don't even bother with coffee. I'll live my wonderful life longer, and with my average 6 hours, I'll get to enjoy it longer
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>spam N U T bind so much i actually start ejaculating when i do it
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>>174322920
>I'll get to enjoy it longer
>die of heart attack due to lack of sleep
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>>174322920
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/7677812/People-who-sleep-for-less-than-six-hours-die-early.html
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stop derailing the thread nobody gives a shit
>>
If you guys hate Viva so much why don't you just filter him?
>>
he's the fun kind of autistic
>>
it's like observing some kind of alien that has behaviors and motives beyond comprehension, except you speak the same fucking language as that alien and what it says and does still makes no fucking sense. viva could spend those 2 hours before work bashing his fucking head against a wall and he'd still try to convince himself and everyone else around him that what he's doing isn't retarded and dangerous.
>>
1 hour before work*

I shower, get dressed, eat breakfast, brush my teeth, and head out by 6:30 to get to work a few minutes before 7

Since I woke up earlier today, I spent the extra time getting Gold on GTA V Story mode missions
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Hey guys I found this really cool co-op gamemode in TF2 called "Mann vs Machine" where you fight hordes of robots you should check it out haha
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>>174322681
pyrovision has a bunch of bugs and exploits that can give you varying degrees of seeing through walls
dunno about noisemakers
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thanks but i already play competitive mvm, i'm in an iron league
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>>174324639
*Man vs Machine
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>>174324782
*Man vs Maschine
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Post your most pimped loadout
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please compliment me on my webms, i NEED validation
>>174316678
>>174317095
>>174317630
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>>174324953
you have a bit more filesize to work with, they are good otherwise
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>>174325094
yeah but the 4chan servers upload speed is shit so i would rather have people see it instantly that having to wait for it to slowly load
cool weebm too brotha !
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>>174324945
why'd u sell ure strange gunslimger....
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>>174325558
Why are you unable to use English correctly?
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>>174325739
not native lanugage (((
im from hungary ))
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>>174321467
demo knight would be played but if you play it and you win no one will scrim you
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>>174324639
I've given up on asking in the thread whenever i'm doing a tour since nobody ever responds
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>>174326580
I feel sorry for you
Good luck on your tours
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I would be down for MvM, but you removed me
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>>174326778
I'm not substrata, masketta
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On an MvM medic, should I use the crossbow or the blut?
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>>174326915
I'm not masketta, substrata
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>>174326960
I'm not subsketta, mastrata
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>>174327087
Oh.
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>>174326953
Overdose and vitasaw, so you can run to the tele and to your teammates faster
>but muh 10 health!
That's why you up resistances and medishield you dummy
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How do you see the KD of someone in a pub? I was told my exact KD twice.
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>>174327398
Enable the mouse on the scoreboard, click on the someone's name.
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Thanks... nerd.
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People are talking about Overwatch in my class right now
What should I do?
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>>174327626
bully them
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>>174327460
How to do that?
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>>174327906
How to do what ?
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>>174327990
enable mouse
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If you don't get at least 7-8 hours of sleep on average(varies person to person) you're not going to be performing optimally. Like you'll be slower in tf2, real life, thinking about and solving problems etc.
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>enemy team bout to cap
>our engineer jumps in and kills their combo + a scout
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>>174328005
tf_scoreboard_mouse_mode
1 enables mouse input as soon as you press tab
with 2 you have to press a mouse button first
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>>174328106
How to enable that when I start up, rather than having to enter it each time?
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>>174328028
>Viva's retardation is motivating me to get more sleep
Wow thanks /tf2g/!
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>>174328147
autoexec
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>>174328147
It's in the advanced option tab in game.
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Why are Brits the worst and saltiest players?
Why are Hungarians always so bro tier?
Why are Krauts the most autistic?
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>>174328147
cute
in your Team Fortress 2/tf/cfg directory make a file that's called autoexec.cfg (not autoexec.cfg.txt)
put all the commands you want to be executed on startup there
you can also make scout.cfg, soldier.cfg and so on which execute everytime you switch to that class
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LE SALT XDDD
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>>174326580
I'd respond more, but I'm working
I'd get a full group, but the Homies don't bother with MvM, or TF2 for the most part, anymore

>>174328028
I solve problems fine with my 6 hours of sleep. I can do the daily Sudoku on the Daily News and Lines on my phone all the time
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So wait, why do a lot of tf2 players get mad when I say soldier is one of the easier classes to play for shitters?
>2nd highest hp
>hitscan shotty projectile RL
>not particularly slow like the heavy
>great melee supports (whip, escape, mg)
>basic rocket jumps can help in a lot of situations and are rather simple
>good range and options
When I started playing years ago soldier was my scrub class because he is stupidly strong as opposed to other classes, and has very few weakness
>inb4 skill floor=skill ceiling
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t. Pyro/Engineer main
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>oh no a scout
>kills it in 2 shots

>oh no a soldier
>victory depends on luck and/or pocket

>oh no a pyro
>kills it in 2 shots

>oh no a demoman
>kills it in 2 shots

>oh no a heavy
>kills it in 4 shots while behind a corner

>oh no a engineer
>kills it in 2 shots

>oh no a sniper
>kills it in 2 shots

>oh no a medic
>kills it in 2 shots

>oh no a spy
>kills it in 2 shots
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Who could have guessed that the soldier was the only one to have a weapon or the ability to move in the game !
Thanks for this brilliant demonstration anon !
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>>174329270
>>victory depends on luck
g _ _ _u _
>2 shot demo
if no shield
>4 shot heavy behind corner
if its an autist child maybe, but splash damage on 4 rockets won't kill.
>2 shot sniper
is 1 shot by sniper (potentially)
>2 shot pyro
easy air blasts if that's how you fire at them.
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how to fix soldier;

>reduce clip size to 1, airstrike allows 2 with no additional missiles on kill
>can only hold 8 missiles
>remove damage falloff
>all missiles go the speed of direct hit, direct hit bonus simply being additional damage but smaller splash
>full damage on rocket jumps, gunboats reduce it by 20 percent
there, this removes senseless spamming, rocket jumping, rollouts, and makes him less effective at performing the job of the demoman against sentries. additionally make the demoman's stickies take 2 seconds to arm with sticky jumping only sending him the distance a rocket jump would at full damage. people are too attached to the idea that these classes should be mobile at all, muh kaidus/b3nny
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>how to turn soldier into a class defeatable by every class 1v1 every time because he can only fire 1 shot at a time
No.
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>>174330024
>what is shotgun
?
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>>174329642
Thats fucking stupid.
>11 rockets
>spam still exists because no damage falloff
>all rocket launchers are the direct shit
>make gunboats completely useless
You'd make the soldier into fat, headshotless cuntsman with potential 1 shots at long range like the old loch, but with even easier to hit projectiles
Really the changes soldier needs is slightly more damaging rocket jumps imo, so minimum jump damage puts him at 175 hp max with gunboats.
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>>174330068
Sure shotgun will work, but good luck holding back a pack
>1 demo with 4 gernades
>1 soldier with 1 or 2 rockets
>gee I wonder which is more powerful?
>why are you playing that class anon, it's fucking awful
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good scouts dodges and kill you in 2 shots
good soldier juggles you and kills you in 2 shots
pyro is not a real class
good demo hits 2 direct pills faster than you can hit 2 direct rockets
heavy is a sitting duck only if not revved up
engie is meant to be weak in 1v1 without his sentry
sniper needs to be bombed otherwise you're dead
spy is meant to be weak when he's not backstsbbing people

not even worth a (u)
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>>174330068
Fatter engie with a useless huntsman rocket, that would need to 1 shot to even be looked at
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>>174330253
>pyro is not a real class
>not being good enough to play one of tf2's easiest classes
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>>174330176
i said no senseless spam or senseless rocket jumping, they would actually have to plan because if they fire they have to reload before firing again. im advocating making it a class that actually requires thought to play, because right now he currently beats every single class in a 1v1 situation consistently, except demoman and heavy, or at least when i play him in comp which shouldn't be a thing in a CLASS BASED TEAM GAME. it is impossible to balance any other class because they are balancing against soldier and right now he is a broken character

>>174330197
>no arc
>huge splash on impact
>shotgun
>second highest fucking health
>still can rocket jump
no way would demo be an instant pick over soldier even then with a 2 second sticky arm time
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What do YOU think of Standin and the overall concept of it?
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i cant stand it
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Stand in what?
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so does this game have good lore?
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hey guys, valve here (see name). we are adding a new character. he is perfectly balanced. he is the jesus class. faster than scout and he kills everything in 1 shot with his machinegun with unlimited ammo that can rocketjump because they are explosive rounds but they dont hurt him. the catch? it takes him 10 seconds to revive himself and only heals overtime 60 health per second and can only fly for 1 minute before having to recharge. its technically possible for other classes to kill this class so therefore it is perfectly acceptable that he is better than every single other class in the game and is the easiest class to be effective with. or at least this has been the valve balancing checklist since we thought up soldier
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404 arguement not found
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>>174331165
But it has already been confirmed that the 10th class will be Miss Pauling.
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>>174330452
>now he currently beats every single class in a 1v1 situation consistently,
>or at least when i play him in comp
Hmmm, I wonder if it's a you problem

>scout
Don't rely on scatter early. chip off enough hp with your pistol while avoiding/ minimizing damage from his jumps and shots toward you. After you reach scatter kill threshold, or he has too little hp to keep mobile you should either aim to end it quickly with a meatshot, or stay safe and spam out the rest of your pistol
>pyro
Don't expect him to shoot at you directly if he isn't dumb. Hit a flare or 2 when he is too far to guarantee a hit and switch to flamer its just a war of attrition, and you need to be careful with your resources.
>demo
Has more powerful pipes, shields that lower damage and pair with swords for crits.
>engie
he should lose
>heavy
Already out damages soldier in direct combat. Soldier needs to be cheeky and cheese out his damage and run from heavy.
>sniper
Headshot him. If not good enough to win don't complain, its the highest damage hitscan weapon that works at all ranges with 100% accuracy if not being shot while firing.
>spy and medic
shouldn't win 1v1s.
A good ambassador spy could headshot, ringer and headshot, but that's not something I'd bet on.
>>
Bored.

>>174325797
Demoknight must play dependent on Engineer to drop enemy Medic and hunt Spy. It's completely out of meta.
Any good pocket Soldier (with a Shotgun) or any Scout will laugh at the face of a Knight.

>>174321467
Other shit caught my attention regarding this chart.
Zatoichi is a godsent for pocket Demoman, can help uber build. I'm not quite sure why it's deprecated despite being allowed.
Because of 1-hit kill on the other Zato wielder?

>>174328296
Dunno, look accurate to me. Just...
>Why are Brits the worst
Worst? No. You didn't meet enough brits, bro. They can be savagely good at vidja gaemz, just potheads.

>>174330197
If you equipped a banner, you either roam around and hardly encounter a Demo face to face, or stick near your pocket to bomb Spy and Snipers. Also "Shotgun".

>>174329270
>oh no a sni-
>*headshot when airborne*
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>>174332279
By worst I mean toxic
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You already reviewed this map.
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better than standin
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>Map that required coordination is too hard for me ;(((
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>tfw you deadringer'd as your teammate Medic
>tfw enemy pushed forward just to face an uber deploy from your Medic

>>174332335
>toxic
Stop lurking leddit.
I believe you come across a few spoiled idiots. Most britbongs I know are pretty chill people.
Agree with you on Huns and Krauts.

>>174331165
Blizz finally bought Vulva?
>>
>>174333546
Every game I join there is some british entitled cunt spewing crtique and unfunny jokes
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Standin is fun as a scout.
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So super fun :D
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soldier here, i am a jack of all trades but am instead better than all classes actually designed to do specific things. i can pick med better than sniper, i can pick sniper better than spy, i can pick spy better than pyro and even keep up with the deadringer, i can pick engineer better than demo, my rocket launcher has a more effective knockback than pyro's shitty airblast and can not only stop a scout in his tracks but kill him in 2 shots just by shotting somewhere near his feet. maybe you are wondering what my vice is? you can't chip me nazi im literally perfect. my intended drawback was that im slower than every other class except heavy, LOL. i can make it to mid faster than every single scout AND most demomen and their sticky bomb launcher is broken too. im a better flank than scout, im a better pocket than heavy, im a dream maggot and if you play a different class you are having a nightmare because a player who picked the game up yesterday who picks soldier will do better than every single class in the game. who are you crying to baby? valve wont hear it, they can't even think over the cries of my fanboys who would kill themselves if their crutch was taken from them. ha just got another primary. there is no i in team so i don't belong in this game in my current state since i have literally no counters in this game based around the idea of counters
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who needs koth when you have standin, which is basically koth times three
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: 3
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Is this game alive?
>>
what language is that
>>
Poles are the best and nicest people you will ever meet (online and irl), except for kids, but that's pretty much true for all countries.
>>
>>174334050
10/10

>>174333643
>some british entitled cunt spewing crtique
Most of britbongs are elitists, when that happens I throw the game up or leave.
>and unfunny jokes
Call it directly "not funny" in chat, then mute him.
If you're in the mood; type "I need to light a fag brb" in chat then go Pyro.
>>
>>174334641
All of them are shitty elitists with a massive superiority complex
>>
>>174334723
they think its "bants"
>>
>>174335356
absolutely all of them are fucking wankstains, though.
Kill them - "ahahah I wasn't even trying hard"
Dare to miss a CC bolt - "Fucking use your medigun"
Not having a perfect 6s composition - "fucking f2ps"
Brits are the cancer of the whole online community, not just tf2. They are the reason I don't play csgo, not russians
>>
t o x i c b r i t s
kill em all i say
>>
Isn't Vibri a brit?
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>>174334542
Polski

>>174334467
Comp update fucked things up, but playerbase is so large that it didn't die from such a "blow".
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What is the final solution to the Anglo problem?
>>
>tfw you do really well as a class so some down on his luck f2p switches to your class
i feel kinda good when this happens as medic but awful when it happens as spy
>>
nukes
>>
nuke the daily mail
deprive them from EU rights (they are already doing that themselves)
let them find another Nigel Farage but make him president this time
>>
anyone has the ryzen 1600(x) to see how it goes in tf2 against i5s? obviously it's going to be slower but i'm curious by how much
>>
>>174336189
depends on the i5
heres a benchmark with the R7 1700
http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/726992/tf2-benchmarks
tf2 engine is extremelly bad anyway, use benchmarks from actual good game engines
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>Partition it
>Scotland, England, Wales, Ireland
>Deport all of the English populace to India
>Deport all of the Scottish populace to Sibiria
>Deport all of the Welsh populace to Arabia
>France, Germany and Russia extract reperations for *nglo crimes to their countries
>Massive de-industrialization of the remaining Lands
>Scorch earth so they are back on 1066 level again
>Get a French king to rule over England
>Scotland is now a neutral international zone
>extract all resources to the point there is nothing left
>the royal navy is disbanded
>all dominions are nuked into glass
>but most important, cut their connection to the internet
Final solution.
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>>174336370
why not use benchmarks from games/programs you will actually play/use
>>
>>174336370
yeah i'm planning a new pc in few months but i mainly play tf2 anyway so i dont know if i should go ryzen
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>>174334592
dukefag is a polack
>>
>>174336680
Yeah, he is pretty nice
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>>174336878

Imma steal it this time.
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>>174336912
>>174336912
>>174336912
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>>174336914
Nice job, retard
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>>174336914
>>174336939
I'm confused
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>>174336914
>>174336939
both early
>>
>probably both deleted because early
Good job idiots
Nobody fucking cares who makes the thread holy fuck
>>
>>174336914
Why?
You know someone already makes the threads so you decide to make another one?
>>
>>174336939
Aww...
Nice pick of picture bro. Let the mods decide which one stays. I'm fine with either.
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>>174337048
I do. I don't want a degenerate OP image
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>>174336914
Kill yourself
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>>174337048
>Thread already hit 750 because of both threads posted "early"
wew lad.
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I vote this one because he actually typed the title right
>>174336912
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Report one already so other one stays, guys. Come on.
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>>174217349
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>>174337779
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