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NEWS
>English P5 DLC schedule: http://personacentral.com/persona-5-dlc-scheduled-announced-english-release/
>Next major event announced for August 2nd: http://personacentral.com/large-scale-persona-live-event-announced-august-2-2017/
>New Persona games to be announced 2017: http://personacentral.com/atlus-to-announce-several-games-in-2017-includes-the-persona-series/
>New Atlus studio "Studio 0" to create new RPG named Project Re Fantasy: http://personacentral.com/atlus-project-re-fantasy-concept-video-site-update/
>Persona 20th Anniversary radio CD announced: http://personacentral.com/persona-20th-anniversary-radio-cd-detailed/

INFO
>P5 Info
pastebin.com/MJuR9h0S
GUIDES
>General Guide
pastebin.com/eCHRjKCZ
>PQ Guide
pastebin.com/Bq16HvJh
>P4U2 Guide/Resources
pastebin.com/M3MPepKb

DOWNLOADS
>Art, Guides, Music, etc.
pastebin.com/Vh0CdRit
>P4 Dengeki Comic Anthology
mediafire.com/?4kjjaf0jtw2jyj3
>Persona Image Collection
mediafire.com/?9j3us2v34coua
>Persona 5 Resources
http://pastebin.com/CZEvEgiE
MANGA
>Scans
personascans.tumblr.com
mediafire.com/personascans#unst48ukbu457
pastebin.com/L3WXvsf3
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https://strawpoll.com/rg4rfz3
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who do you want to see pee the most?
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Anal with Makoto!
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>I fell for the p5 is good meme
Feels bad man. Should have just gotten Automata
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>>173994230
Why not both? They're both great games!
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I can't NOT fuck Kawakami
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Ryuji and Ann are for each other!
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>>173994203
Sae
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>>173994195
Think was i didn't even grind that much - i was Level 75 when i fought the final boss
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Haru > Makoto > Ann > Futaba

in order of thiccness
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I want to pose nude for an autistic fox!
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>ending trophy is called "a new journey"
>some fags still think there won't be more p5 story content
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>What's that bow tie
>On the card guy
>Tell you 'bout his design

What did she mean by this?
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>>173994230
Persona 5 is longer and actually has a good story with decently-written characters
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>>173994278
>Anne going for an athlete when a athlete was the person who ruined her life
Hahahaha
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>Get to Makoto rank 5
>Need max charm before I can continue

Damn, I wasn't expecting a block this early in the route. Also fuck Eiko Im fly as hell.
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>deal too much damage to one twin
>lol Recarm
>take too much time
>lol All-out attack
Well this is fun.
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>>173994131
>turning Goro into a semen demon

ENOUGH
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>>173994345
Love this meme
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>>173994337
She means that he's a faggot anon
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I dare you fags to do the final boss without grinding and with Arsene as your main persona.
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>>173994331
I don't think we will get story DLC for P5 but i definitely could see Persona 5 Arena typing up some loose ends
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>>173994360
>don't be cdky
What did they mean by this?
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>>173994393
>Love this meme
Love this meme
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>>173994173
>that many people voting no
Seriously?
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>>173994469
>Love this meme
Love this meme
>Love this meme
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>>173994421

Considering how badly P4 got whored out I wonder what they're gonna do for this one.
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>>173994367
all wild cards are semen demons
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>>173994507
>tfw no Goro (female) who's yandere for Joker
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>>173994478
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>>173994495
>Love this meme
Love this meme
>Love this meme

Love this meme.
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>>173994292
75 is still fairly high. I was 71 and my biggest problem was that I had no healing item except for the Soma in the final chest.

>>173994478
Only possible way that Goro's story could be improved was if he fought with Joker against Valdy and died there, as one last ultimate fuck you to fate.
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>>173994360
do you think caroline and justine ever fuck
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>>173994631
Love this meme
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>>173994478
He was given the perfect ending for his character. I wouldn't mind extra stuff expanding on him if it takes place during the story or before it, but I don't want him brought back from the dead for fujo pandering.
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>>173994507

So is there an in universe explanation (Outside making the player want to be super special) that Personae started to become one per person outside the wild cards. Cuz in one and two everyone was basically a wild card
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If Goro were actually a cute girl would you forgive her for setting you up and killing hundreds of people?
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>>173994496
I think they are just going to do Persona 5 Arena and that's it/maybe Goro story DLC for P5 Crimson
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>>173994647
It counts as masturbation.
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>>173994578
>Goro (female)
she's cute but we've been over this. goro (female) wouldn't even be the same character because hashino hates morally ambiguous women with complex motives.
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>>173994478
I honestly don't give a shit about him desu. He just felt like another stepping-stone except Atlus really tried to make you feel bad for him.
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What if I'm Sae?
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What if I'm Sae?
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On a second play through with maxed stats, is it still possible to fuck badly enough you don't max every link?
Somehow in P4 it happened, I fished too much and wasted too many rainy days I guess.

Is there anything to avoid this time around, like making tools/washing dirty armor?
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>>173994348
This has got to be the most retarded justification to say 'I don't like Ann with Ryuji' I've seen in my life. Pure autism.
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What if you're Igor?
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I think its kinda odd that you finish the game around the 70s lvl wise yet there are multiple personas that you get in the 80s and 90s.

Theres only like one bonus boss to even use them on
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>>173994791
>>173994841
who the fuck do i believe
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>tfw fuse Shiki-Ouji because he has null of both gun and physical, and curse
>tfw he was around level 20 or so when I fused him
>tfw he's level 53 now
>tfw fused him with Zio, Swift Strikes, Marakunda and Dekaja, and taught him Kouha and Charge
>tfw become unstoppable to almost every boss
>tfw Akechi can't do anything yell autistic curses at me about why he can't hit or damage me
>tfw I can still make him better

/pg/ did you have a persona that just carried you through through your game like this?
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>>173994596
>no battle interface surrounding Cognitive Goro
4/10
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>>173994637
I had no healing items because of Micheal - I had Makoto as a healer and then use Ryuji and Ann to Concentrate/Charge + God Hand + Agidyne (Ocasionally Ann's Ultimate Fire Attack). I was the secondly healer/stat dealer as well as using God Hand + Charge. The thing i would recommend is try and take down both the arms and the main body because the fight is a lot easier that way
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Please God, let me meet him. All I want to is to find that perfect boy I know exists. He’s sweet and shy and my age and likes all the things I do, perhaps even is on this site itself. The boy who won’t secretly think I’m a loser, the boy I can cuddle with (even if only possible online) and spent nights talking to and laughing and sharing happiness. Someone who can reciprocate the love I put in, the boy who I can make feel safe and secure unconditionally and can fill this gaping, empty void in my heart. Please, just let me find this person. I’ll change everything about me if that’s what it takes Please, I just can’t take the loneliness anymore.
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Sae has a better ass and bigger tits than Makoto, she might not even be used goods since she's so dedicated to her job.

Sae is best girl!!!
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HEY

INMATE
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>>173994923
I'm the real Sae! Look at me I hate my sister
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>>173994915
That's every Persona game and most Megaten games. Only real exception I can think of is Apocalypse.
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>>173994348
Hitler liked dogs

Should nobody like dogs because he was a terrible person?
>>173995014
Do you reach max level in apocalypse generally?
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>>173994992
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>>173994704
>don't want him brought back from the dead for fujo pandering
it's gonna happen anyway and you will still play the game
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>>173994992
>playing with dub
kek
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i really just want him back, guys. he's just so beautiful, and every moment he was on screen was like heaven. sometimes, i would roleplay that we were talking together in leblanc, and he would accidentally reveal that something was troubling him at times, and i would do my best to comfort him. when he was in my party, i would sometimes make it only joker and goro, as if they were on a private excursion, with goro slowly and unknowingly growing ever closer to joker. he's just so beautiful. i like to think that at times, he would regret the path he had already set himself on. he's gotta return, guys. he's just gotta.
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>>173995086
>playing the game at all
ok bub
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>>173995014
Yeah it's kinda pointless getting the 80/90 lvs Personas when usually 70 lvs are fine for defeating the final boss
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>>173994891
>Implying that posting that Ryuji and Anne love each other at the start of every recent thread isn't just as bad

>>173994940
Dude carried me incredibly hard but I eventually went on to other Personas. None were as cool. Except for maybe Frost of African American descent.
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>>173995081
I won't play it because I never play any of the spinoffs
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>Goro killed Okamura

Please don't tell me the party is going to be emo over this for 3 years
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This really, really gets under my skin, too. The fact that they downplay sexual assault as sexual harassment really rubbed me the wrong way, especially during the news broadcast with some of the female students talking about how Kamoshida would grab them. That's not "harassment" at that point. I was just like, can we just send Anderson Cooper to Atlus HQ and have him hammer them the same way he hammered Trump for doing the very same thing? Just have him go in there and be like, "Are you aware that that is sexual assault?"

I'm only at the 4th palace so far, but I've noticed this pattern of the game trying to introduce heavy themes and concepts like this but then shooting themselves in the foot over it later. It creates a sort of cognitive dissonance because it's so tonally inconsistent. Like, oh, let's open with an entire arc of a creepy teacher sexually preying on his students and hammer home how fucking disgusting and damaging that is, but then completely cut it off at the knees by having an S Link where they take the "hot teacher" fetish and crank it up to 11 by also putting her in a French Maid costume and occasionally offering you sex. Also, you can actually bang her at the end if you want to. It's just so wildly out of place with what I feel like the game was actually trying to achieve with that first storyline. It also kind of bugged me on the way to the fourth palace, the way that Ryuji and the MC were staring down Ann's shirt, even though they both know what Ann has been through wrt perv dudes. I get that they just wanted to have a "lol boys will be boys" moment, but it seemed really inappropriate when put into context with the bigger picture.

It's like, pick one. Pick what you wanna be and do that. If you want to have zany fetishistic sexual things in your game, great, go nuts. But if you want to make a serious statement about assault and harassment and power imbalances, then you really can't do the first thing anymore. It's not good writing.
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>>173994940
When you can, switch that bad boy out with a Rangda. Rangda is stupid good.
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>use Mind Slice
>all enemies get Confused
>just deal damage and heal up while enemies give money and items and listen to NEVER SEE IT COMMMMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>173994915
You could always have the Strength Confidant maxed by endgame so you can fuse the super high level Personae.
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>>173995175
they don't really give a shit
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>>173995175
I mean Haru gets pretty upset but thats not too unreasonable. The rest of the party is generally more concerned that they may have killed somebody.
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>>173995175
Dude Haru doesn't even give a shit

Haru is more sad when you turn her down than watching her dad die on TV.
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>>173994704
>not wanting another apocalypse just because muh fujo strawman
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>>173994953
I admit the first round when i was Level 60 i got killed by Yabby's final attack. Correct me if i am wrong but is that move an instant kill
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>>173994996

Im sorry, sis. I just miss dad.
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>>173995189
Holy shit this person cannot read between the lines. At all.
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>>173995073
>Do you reach max level in apocalypse generally?
You're gonna be somewhere in the 90s for the final boss, at the least.
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>the way Joker spins the phone on his finger while being so laid back on his chair at the Leblanc hideout
Could this man be any cooler?
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>>173995189
Those tumblr goggles ruining your enjoyment?
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>>173995175
they don't care and just forgive him
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>>173995209
>Have Rangda
>The colliseum fights in the casino are literally unfailable

It was great
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>>173994478
why aren't more people saying yes, he has the potential to be good
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>>173995294
My Mistake - i was Level 70 not 60
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>>173995294
No, it's not. You can dodge it or if you maxed out training in your room Joker should be able to tank it provided he's a high enough level. The social link shit also works.
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>>173994875
I'm in the middle of November and Haru is at level 5 and three other links are level 7-9. Just don't forget about Chihaya.
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>>173995373
I don't think Atlus will ever be able to top Joker in terms of style.
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>>173995294
No, you can guard it or just destroy the weapons before it goes off to weaken it.
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>>173981776

>not wanting MC to be from Upstate and living in Queens or the Bronx
>travelling between boroughs
>SI is the Tartarus/Shadow World/Mementos of the game
>Visit LI on the obligatory trip/beach
>Statue of Liberty is a dungeon

It being in NY would be fucking awesome the fuck are you talking about, and this is coming from somebody who's spent their whole life here. But it'll never happen.
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>>173995420
Because I don't care about him and I'd rather they focus that potential on the actual party members.
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Why is she so perfect?
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>>173995393
One of my favorite P5 Moments was in the Colosseum Thor was charge up for a big attack and i had Rangda and Thor literally killed himself.
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>>173995420
contrarians
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>>173995393
>Thor charges up
>Hits himself with over 500 damage
My sides had entered the Andromeda Galaxy at that point
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Do you guys have any good futaba screenshot or webm?
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>>173995420
because not everyone is a fujo
he already had his share of relevance and screentime
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>>173995552
B E S T G I R L
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>>173995565
>>173995587
The thor fight was at least a neat throwback to Nocturne even if he just wrecks himself
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>>173995373
Wait, the fucker spins his phone? I know he was doing a bunch of crazy ass pencil shit but how do you spin a phone?

>>173995538
It doesn't have the same charm as Shibuya is all.
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Abuse it.
phansite.esy.es
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>>173995514
Cool - i just spammed enough attacks to kill him before that
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>>173995420
because they had their opinions set before even playing the game when they spoiled the jap release for themselves. he could be a complex and interesting character to bring back, but no. muh fujos.
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>>173994173
What the fuck happened to Strawpoll? Why is it so... Google?
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>>173995543
>focus that potential on the actual party member
hm, what potential do you see in the other party members besides memes?
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>>173995209
What do I need to make Rangda?
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>>173995552
Post her swimsuit
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Out of the Phantom Thieves, who's the best written character?
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>>173995750
Can't remember but he's very easy to make. Also he is an enemy in the dungeon

Also Kali from the final area can go fuck itself
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>>173995552

So this happening, huh? Im really black mailing my teacher? I should probably stop this. Well let's just go a little bit further.
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>>173995750
You can just recruit Rangda in like the spaceship or Egypt or something.
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>>173995189
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=233941541&postcount=18611

at least link the original post so people know what dumbass spouts this shit if you're gonna copypasta neogaf trash

>with some of the female students talking about how Kamoshida would grab them. That's not "harassment" at that point.
someone tell that idiot that that's a cultural thing with the setting and not just atlus downplaying shit
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>>173995189
Persona is always this way though. All this shit about "accepting everyone and everyone is different and valid" but then it's like shallow gay jokes like the guys at the beach who are just molesters. I hate it too but I just try to ignore it. P2 was way ahead of its time and then 3, 4 and 5 backpedaled so hard.
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>>173995662
Yeah, I really loved that. Honestly, I really want another SMT game in the style of Nocturne. 3D dungeon crawling makes my dick hard and so does press turns.
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>>173995828
without much trouble?
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>>173995676

Manhattan is a lifeless shithole, but every other borough has charm. Even the ends of Manhattan are pretty interesting. Like the piers and such.

>not wanting the shithole of SI to be tartarus either
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>>173995887
Well the new SMT Game on the Switch might be that. Also i would like to see a HD Remake of Nocturne on the Switch
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>>173995719
He already is a complex and interesting character and his story has been told. Stop acting like everyone who doesn't want them to beat a dead horse dislikes him.
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>>173995828
uh...anon...
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>>173995845
yeah i just ignored the bullshit because the series has its shining moments, too. i don't even think atlus really hates gays or whatever. they just like insensitive jokes.
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Do you guys have any good futaba screenshot or webm?
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>>173995721
strawpoll.com != strawpoll.me
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>>173995845
This. Atlus has been especially hypocritical lately with the messages they're sending with Persona. You can't say and do one thing and then backpedal which completely negates the story you're trying to tell. Just plain, bad writing.
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Where i found jack frost??
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>>173995828

Yosuke, what are you wearing? I just, why?

Are there seriously no cooler kids in this goddamn town!? It's like Im living in a Save by the Bell esque nightmare.
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>>173995984
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>>173995973
Its partially just Japan is more homophobic than most western countries. They still frown upon gays pretty hard. They are getting better about it, they have made more gay characters in recent years, but still.
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>>173996065
Fucking everywhere
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>>173995828
when you fix the links, use that portrait where he has a lazy eye
that's my favorite
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What days is Yoshida available?
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>>173995607
Why do you ask this every thread
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>>173995839
I'm just finished doing Shido's Palace in one run..
I think I have one in the Compendium, but I'd rather fuse one for carry over purposes.

Though I'm looking at its resistances, and it's weak to lightning I think, Where Shiki is only weak to nuke, which is rarer to encounter.
Is it really that worth it?
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>>173995961
Maybe, I just hope another SMT game is for both PS4 and Switch. Make use of those fucking new models Atlus.
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>>173994742
>So is there an in universe explanation

>P1 and P2
Phil bestows the Persona power on people
>P3 onwards
Phil is weakened as fuck and can only manage to do it for one guy
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>>173996084
why didn't Mishima fade away at the end, no one remembers this zero
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Yusuke and Futaba are great together though i wish they had more scenes.
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>you will never adopt an autistic artist after he runs away from home because it was too noisy to paint
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>>173996084
SAVAGE
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Did she figure out you're a Phantom Thief before you even finish her S.Link with that comment during your hiding from Akechi?
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>>173995304
I hate you
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>arguably the worst party member gameplay-wise
>has the least screen time out of all the PT
>has no chemistry with anyone in the PT aside from futaba
>by far the most irrelevant PT member plot-wise

but I still love him
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>>173996097
yeah but i also don't think it's because atlus frowns on gays. it's just that those jokes are still seen as a non-issue in japan, although i'm sure there are those that also have a problem with it, it's probably not the majority.
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>>173995189
This post is exactly why I was worried about Persona becoming more popular. You attract sensitive faggos like this

Please go and don't come back
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Anybody miss Igor pulling out his banana shaped "bone phone" to fuse shit?

This series has been been on a downward trajectory ever since they removed that in persona 2. What a bunch of hacks.
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>>173996274
>has the least screen time out of all the PT
isn't that Haru?
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>>173996274
>arguably the worst party member gameplay-wise
LOVE this meme
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>>173996274
Nah - True Ryuji is best at end game but Yusuke is still great. I would have used Yusuke at Endgame if it wasn't for Ryuji and charge
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>>173996084
Thanks
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>>173996274
>has the least screen time
>no chemistry
>irrelevant
You posted the wrong picture, anon.
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https://strawpoll.com/cazb418
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>>173996242
I need an image of the too cute maid Kawakami. Her lips are literal perfection
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>>173996195

To be fair, the persona 1 and 2 characters aren't really "True" wild cards.

And Izanami is the one who gives a persona to Yu. So clearly more than just Philemon can do it.
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>>173996393
>>173996330
wow...she has such little screen time that I literally forgot she was even in the game
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>goro's story was wrapped up properly and in a satisfying way
LOVE this meme. stop saying he doesn't deserve a shot with atonement over death like every other villain in the game just because you're annoyed by goroposting.
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>>173996274
>has the least screen time out of all the PT
>has no chemistry with anyone in the PT
>by far the most irrelevant PT member plot-wise

That's not Haru.
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>>173996325
Remember when the Velvet Room had cool people in it
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>>173996274
i think i love him because the humor involved with yusuke is actually pretty fucking funny. lobsters and posing at church, etc. he's a way better comic relief than ryuji who fails miserably at picking up women but still forces you to go along and generally acts obnoxious as shit.
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>>173996468
>Forgetting one of the most powerful party members
ishygddt
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>>173996396
>voted before I saw my true waifu Sae on there
fug
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>>173996459
Phil was still in on the whole thing in P4 though as Igor was helping Yu and the save points being butterflies and shit.
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>>173996486
Even if he atoned he would most likely have a sucky life due to the fact he would be arrested for his crimes and stuck in prison. I really like Goro's ending because it had ambiguity - did he really atone or he just wanted to get revenge on Shido by allowing the PT to confront them.
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>>173996486
>replying to nobody in particular
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>>173996518

Yes, Yes I do.

To be fair though, Margaret is pretty cool and Theodore is alright.

But everybody is just shit compared to Maleficent singing and blind piano guy.
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>>173996274
That and Yusuke has a cool as fuck design. Did they ever explain why he carries around the keys? I remember during the first teaser of P5 I had assumed he'd be a janitor brokeass artist. I was like 2/3rds right at least
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>>173996486
Akechi is far worse than Kamoshida, Kaneshiro, Madarama, and Okumura combined. He deserved no redemption.
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>>373864130

I honestly do not understand were the love for mokoto is coming from, the stun she pulled with the gangsta
is one of the stupids thing to happen in the game.
I honestly wanted to stop playing, it was that fucking retarded.

japan has a population of over 127.3 million and this is the best they could do...seriously
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>>173994742
I imagine that it's because you need to be a Velvet Room guest in order to manage multiple Personas. And that people with the Fool Arcana have affinity for all arcana.
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>>173996554
I liked Ryuji but I felt he was basically Junpei light

Hes the idiot character without as much substance. They establish he's unfairly marginalized but they never really go anywhere with it.

Junpei's arc of feeling worthless is actually explored though, even if not quite answered.
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>>173996274
He's really only worse than Ryuji at around 70 because he doesn't get a Charge spell, but that's it. For the rest of the game they're completely interchangeable.
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YOU NEVER SEE IT COMIIIIIIIING
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>>173995948
New York is more of a tourist destination than anything.

Which is fine. I had my first beer and my first hand job in China town during my high school choir trip to NYC
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>>173996486
>shot at atonement
There was no atonement. Anne said it herself; she wanted Kamoshida to pay, and to suffer. Hell, even in the Depths all of the Palace Owners are just husks.
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>>173996486
You're right that his storyline didn't end in a satisfying way. I wanted to shoot him in his fucking face for that sweet sweet irony.
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>it's a "god wants to grant humanity's wish for death" episode
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>>173996396
>you people actually like the shit quality bait that is Futaba
lol
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>>173996703
(you)
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>>173996607

Actually, I already knew that, but not that I think about it, yeah. Izanami probably just "awakened" the wild card that was already there, because Adachi doesn't have it.

Still though, P1 and P2 characters aren't really "true" wild cards. The way it works in subsequent games is pretty different.
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>>173996486
I just don't find anywhere near as compelling as Goroposter claim he is.
If I wanted to waste my time on a character I don't give a shit about, I'd just read Adachi's story mode from Ultimax again.
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H A R U
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>>173996140
Halp
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>it's 'let's pretend comparing goro to kamoshida isn't a false equivlance' moralfag hour
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I've hung out with Sojiro 3 times with a Hierophant Persona in September and his confidant is still stuck at rank 3. I've brewed coffee, have max Kindness even though it's not required yet, nothing. Is this broken?
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>>173996862
studies show that "haru" is often synonymous with "wife"
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>>173996513

Makoto a cute! And not a robot!
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>>173996968
>it's "gorofags get upset over obvious bait" hour
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>>173996710
But Junpei was a shit friend. I'm glad Ryuji didn't have that "my crush died" moment because it was getting tiring with Yosuke, but he's not Magician to have it anyway.
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>>173996486
Go schlick it to Goro getting fucked by old men and leave the thread
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>>173997032
Beep boop?
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>>173996804
Why do people even like her
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>>173997024
Studies show that "haru" is often synonymous with "trash"
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>>173996862
is fluffy
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>>173997087
that's a funny way of spelling hifumi
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>>173996396
https://strawpoll.com/cazb418
https://strawpoll.com/cazb418
https://strawpoll.com/cazb418
Thanks for voting for futaba
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>>173997001
You gotta wait until you get Futaba. This is the one SL lock the game never tells you about
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>>173997042
i'm not even upset i just like talking about goro
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>>173996634
>he would be arrested for his crimes and stuck in prison
that'd require actual evidence, hard to prove anything with the metaverse gone and shido already confessing to everything without mentioning goro

>did he really atone or he just wanted to get revenge on Shido by allowing the PT to confront them.
there's nothing ambiguous about that, he's given the chance to either keep following orders and kill the pt to survive and have another shot at his revenge and instead of taking that he shoots a representation of the puppet he used to be (and calls it that in jp even), traps himself with it so the pt can get away instead and even points out how if they'd fought cognitive goro and the shadows while trying to shield him they would've been annihilated

it's a super blatant redemption equals (implied) death scenario
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>It another please save me from being rape episode
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>>173997087
Studies show that (you) are synonymous with (faggot)
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>>173997001
No, he takes a lot of time, probably so people don't hit his progression lock too easily. If you don't want to waste time get some affinity readings and do other stuff.
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>>173997147
I'm at the end of September.
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>>173997045

I don't know how anybody can say Junpei was the best "best friend" character.

He wasn't even made to be a best friend character. He's a foil to the MC which is why he's an insecure jealous douche for half the game.

Anybody who says Junpei is a good friend character is objectively wrong.
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>>173997138
They're fake votes
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>>173997158
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>Goro is actually sympathetic and has reasons to do what he did as opposed to Tohru "the world bores me... so relatable uwu" Adachi but contrarians still have to pretend like he doesn't deserve more than he got.
Did you people play the game? How can you still not feel bad for Goro? I felt so bad for the kid. And remember, he's a kid. A kid who had a shitty life and a piece of shit father that manipulated him with the first ounce of "love" he'd received in his entire life. Who will be the first to shitpost and try to tell me he's an irredeemable prick?
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>>173997175
how does one become rape
a-asking for a friend
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>>173997024
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>>173997001
His early ranks just take a shit ton of points.
Also make sure you actually hang out with him too, eventually he'll stop sticking around to taste your coffee.
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>>173997248
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>>173997225
Have you been doing the fortune teller? At rank 7 you can pay her to instantly move a SL to ready to lvl up status

Otherwise I dunno, just keep at it i guess
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Makoto and Haru are queers!
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>>173996396
>Futaba at the top

Literally the shittiest Persona character ever. Shit-tier navigator. Annoying personality. Constantly being mean to Yusuke for no fucking reason. Cries all the time.
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What would Japan be like ruled by Shidou?

His public speeches are actually so convincing that it makes me wonder if he will lead it to prosperity as the chosen messiah like he claims.
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I only play games that have characters who can at least beat base form Goku, is their anyone in this shit that can do that?
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Honest even after Shido i doubt Goro would ever have a happy life. He's been too emotionally damaged
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>Futaba rank 6
God damn it the confidants in this game have no right to be so good
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>>173997042
>not playing both sides like a true /v/
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>>173997324
>pay her to instantly move a SL to ready
It's not instantly. There are some SL where I needed to get her fortune twice to progress
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>>173997241
>And remember, he's a kid.
you guys are quickly becoming as bad as Adachi apologists
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>>173997384
>t. Rise
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>>173997241
Saying that he deserved to die and shouldn't come back isn't the same as saying that he's a irredeemable prick. Everyone is aware that he was both a perpetrator and a victim. He still killed a lot of people and ruined a lot of lives.
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>>173997024
Studies show that "haru" is often synonymous with "absolute destruction"
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>this weird feeling came over me while I was listening to you guys... It almost feels like I've known you all forever...
What did Ann mean by this?
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>>173997387
Ryuji's evolved persona IS Goku
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>>173997336
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>>173997417
some people come out of rape and suicide and war emotionally damaged but they still live their entire lives.
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>>173997241
>And remember, he's a kid. A kid who had a shitty life and a piece of shit father that manipulated him with the first ounce of "love" he'd received in his entire life
literally "he didnu nuffin, he's a good kid, he didn't know any better"
nice
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>"no" winning in one poll
>futaba winning in the other
woa........... where'd all this shit taste come from
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>>173995781
Futaba
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>>173997464
At least Rise could fucking scan the enemy instead of me having to do like a five minute interrogation process or trial and error process for every enemy I wanted to know the affinities of
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>>173996906
He's only available on Sundays.
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>>173997384
>Constantly being mean to Yusuke for no fucking reason
He ruined her Featherman display
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>>173996140
Halp x2
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>>173997336
>2 girls in the same grade who are friends must be fucking, they can't possibly just be friends.
Love this meme.
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I just want someone to post female Goro.
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Post Sojiro
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>>173997640
>power rangers in the yool 20XX
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>>173997417
Time heals the heart
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>>173997598
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>>173997640
He was just trying to be nice and relate with her. They're fucking toys. That's no reason to be rude to best boy
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>>173997626
Wasn't Fuuka the only scanner?
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Does anyone have the image of Makoto clinging to you inside Sojiro's house
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>>173997753
No you're just delusional
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>>173997635
Thanks
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>>173997574
I guess so.
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>>173997598
>>173997791
you have to go back
>>>/v/
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>>173997702
It's called friends with benefits.
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>>173997753
this is exactly what you said though
being a kid doesn't change the fact that he killed people,having a shitty childhood doesn't change the fact that he's a criminal
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>>173997760
Well no, he was trying to sate his autism

She probably over reacted but he wasn't doing it for her.
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>>173997729
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>>173997336
Anne x Makoto is better
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>>173997760
I'm sure a lot of what Yusuke does is him trying to be nice and relate to people, unfortunately his autism gets in the way
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>>173997895
Ann is straight..STRAIGHT!!
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>>173997769

Rise gets an ability that will reveal weaknesses at the start of battle.

I think that's what he meant.

Also, Rise in Golden is broken as shit.
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>>173997786
Here ya go Anon

>>173997870
>Implying Kokoro wouldn't wear black pantsu like the slut she is
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>>173997753
His poor childhood doesn't negate the bad things he did.

The bad things he did doesn't neglect his shitty childhood either but hes still a villain
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Why is P5 so fucking difficult
Why did they have to give the dungeons actual layouts
Why is there no easy way to identify the weaknesses
Why do I have to start managing my time right away
Why did they get rid of shuffle time
Why do I have to talk to Shadows instead
Why did they basically make another shitty SMT game and slap the Persona name on it
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>your so stiff
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Don't mind me, just posting best girl
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Adachi was a shit villain and had shitty reasons but at least his crimes and betrayal isn't as obvious as Goro.
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>>173997895
Anne x Shiho is best though
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>>173997946
Yeah her and Shiho are really really really close friends
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>>173998041
m-my what?
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>>173997740
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>>173998045
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>>173998146
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>>173997753
most pedophiles were sexually abused during childhood
are we supposed to feel bad and forgive them for hurting more people?
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>>173998180
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STOP SEXUALIZING IMOUTOS!!!
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>>173998037
Holy shit, no way you think this game is difficult.
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So we all agree that Katsuya hasn't been dethroned as ultimate best boy yet right
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>>173998207
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>>173995552
A cake's a cake
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>>173997861
>>173997930
Yeah, that's especially why it rustles my nuggies. She should be nice to her fellow autists because she's thirty fucking times worse with the autistic sitting and phone messages. She's one of those people that is mean to people just because she sees herself slightly above them.

It's just a game so I'm reading too much into it, but I know girls like her IRL and it just really gets under my skin haha
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WHERE'S SHIHO
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Futabafags need to leave RIGHT NOW.
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>>173998236
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>>173997859
i wasn't even that anon but it's clearly the muh morals and fiction is reality so you can't feel bad for a criminal even if they were also a victim episode isn't it
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>>173997740
I wish I had more Sojiro art.
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>>173998037
P5 is like the easiest persona thus far

And by extension like one of the easiest SMT games thus far
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>>173998135
cock
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>>173998270
Because you're a meanie I'll dump my whole folder
>>173998282
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>>173998303
>Sojiro's expression
Holy shit that is gold, thank you anon
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Phantom is from Sumaru City!
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>>173998251
>Autistic sitting
It's comfortable! Also, how else do you think a NEET gets legs like those?
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>>173998346
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>>173998389
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>>173998335
nani?
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>>173995552
anon why are you falling in love with a prostitute?
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>>173998367
Only L is allowed to get away with that, she's not cool enough to pull it off
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>>173998417
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>>173997729
ok
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>>173997870
Nice.
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>>173998236
Agreed. He is hard to dethrone.
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How does the P5 MC masturbate with Morgana around?
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>>173998451
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>>173998296
Nobody said that they don't feel bad for him. He still deserved what he got
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>>173998427
j-just because I give her 5000 yen every n-night doesn't mean she's a prostitute..
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>>173998296
I'm not saying you can't feel bad for a criminal, I'm saying appealing to feelings by saying that he was just a kid and had shitty childhood is retarded.
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does anyone have any images of all the DLC for the party members? Im tempted to be bad with money
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>>173998502
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Wow the concept art for some of the Personas look different
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>>173998303
>>173998354
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>>173995552
>Sadayo "I don't really feel like I deserve to be loved" Kawakami
>Perfect
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>>173998537
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>>173998498
>Acatwilldo.jpeg
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>>173998489
>>173998236
Dunno about you but I think Junpei is best boy
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>>173998498
P5 MC masturbates standing up in the bathroom like an adult. 5 minutes max you flush twice and go on about your business
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>>173998568
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>>173997729
Her name is Kokoro.
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>>173998498
>Implying he has to masturbate
Makoto on Mondays, Anne on Wednesdays and Haru on Thursdays.
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>>173997241
>a piece of shit father that manipulated him with the first ounce of "love" he'd received in his entire life
Shido never even acknowledged Goro as his son until the last minutes of the game so no, he was not manipulating him in that fashion. Goro didn't desire his father's love, he wanted his father's life.
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>>173998194
equating something like pedophilia with berserking people (which isn't a real thing that happens to real people in real life) or any other crime just tells me you don't do well with critical thinking
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Has anyone here actually played If... considering it's what started the Persona franchise?
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what did the Japanese fan base feel when they milked the shit out of p4? did they encourage it and eat it up with a smile or were they getting tired of it too?
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>>173998251
Yusuke is pretty aloof and mean to people as well desu
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Any tips on good persona around 5th palace?
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>>173998601
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>>173998538
Oh shit, Zorro looked pretty cool in this one. So did Robin Hood.
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>>173998646
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I count the engrish in persona music as a huge positive, the fact that I cant understand it makes it that much less repetitive.
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>THE SHOW'S OVER
>MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
>FREAKIN BORING
>OMG WE ARE SO AWESOME
>IT WAS FUN WHILE IT LASTED, GOODBYE
>JUSTICE HAS PREVAILED
>ADIEU
>MY SOLE INTEREST IS UNCOVERING THE TRUTH
Anyone got hd shots of these>
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>>173998703
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>>173998540
Nice, thank you anon.
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>>173998002
you can feel sympathy for a villain, anon
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>>173998620
He murdered people anon
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>>173998619
shido explicitly said he used praise to manipulate him. and goro himself said he did everything to get shido's acknowledgment before he took him down. did you even play?
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whats with all of these makoto pocky pictures
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>>173998728
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>>173994131
I want to ________ Akechi-chan!
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>>173998782
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>>173998605
>skipping tuesday
yeah it's the worst day but you gotta do something to liven it up
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Why are the police always bad guys in every Persona game?
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>>173998593
Junpei pales compared to Katsuya.
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>>173998814
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>>173998619
Shido literally says "I used praise to control him" and "it was thanks to me that Akechi was able to properly use his powers to begin with."
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>>173998775
What I meant was that Goro's desire for vengeance > his desire to be acknowledged
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>>173998770
yeah, so why talk about pedophilia?
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>>173998854
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>>173998830
A cop sells you weapons in Persona 3 though
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>>173998620
that was an example you retard
let me guess, are you also an Adachi apologist? "you can't kill people by throwing them into TVs in real life so it's not a real crime"? "he only pushed them in, it's not the same as actually killing them"?
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>>173998718

KEI
KEN
SEN
SAI
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>>173998752
Yeah and you can also acknowledge that despite being sympathetic, they deserved comeuppance for what they did.
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>>173998882
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>>173998887
Yeah.

I'm pretty sure thats illegal.
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>>173998752
Sure you can

That doesn't make them not a villain though. Thats my point
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>>173998830
because they're shitty and useless
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>>173998923
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>>173998830
Because Chaos rules
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>>173998969
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>>173998889
that example doesn't work in this context because not every crime can be equated to another. why do you think we have different types of sentences in law? and no, i hate adachi.
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>>173998605
>>173998815
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>>173999012
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>>173998923
>implying Futaba would use mIRC instead of irssi
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>>173998923
>XP on the right monitor and Windows 7 on the left

fucking hell
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>>173998879
Because they were drawing a parallel between situations where a fucked up childhood is used to excuse or justify crimes committed later in life?
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>>173998951
The reply chain of this post was implying that acknowledging his shitty life is saying he's a dindu
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>>173999052
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>all this Futabaposting
It's not like I dislike her, but please stop shitting up the thread with this.
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>>173998630
I've seen people call P4D 神ゲー
you'd be surprised how much less you will be mad about somehting when you don't actively antagonize it
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>>173998951
And no one is arguing he's not a villain just because they say they feel sympathy for him. But as soon as anyone does say that, some chucklefuck goes off about how he killed people or whatever.
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>>173998830
Because they represent the rigidity and need for control inherent in Man's Law, which the powers of a Persona user transcends. They can't handle you and it makes them jelly.
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>>173998630
The spinoff sales weren't very good.
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>>173999108
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>>173998619
he suspected goro was his son the whole time

but more importantly goro wouldn't have started killing if shido hadn't manipulated him into using his powers for that

shadow shido straight up admits that, c'mon anon

>Goro didn't desire his father's love, he wanted his father's life.
no, he wanted to be loved by someone because he's been unwanted his whole life and shido exploited that. that's the whole fucking reason things turned out like they did. did you miss shido's cognitive goro calling him out on that?

he wasn't trying to kill shido either, just ruin him by outing his crimes in the end. we're talking about a guy who would've taken possibly killing himself over letting the pt change his heart, death doesn't work as revenge against him
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>>173999183
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>>173998538
That Captain Kidd looks better than the new one
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>>173998830
Even in EP?
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>>173999218
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>>173999178
yeah, that's why Wada wants to make P5Arena and they're considering making P3D AND P5D
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>>173999071
I don't think there's a equivalent to "my dad is a shitty politician and an evil false god cherry picked me and set me loose in a supernatural world to give me a chance at revenge and my dad is now forcing me to use those powers to kill people and threatening my life should I disobey."
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So with the grand reveal that the Thieves were playing Goro like a fool the moment he heard Mona and he was oblivious to all this, does that mean he's not as smart as Naoto?
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These girls want to fuse my Mara

What do I do, /pg/?
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>>173999248
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>>173999071
berserking people for daddy =/= molesting children
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can someone post some FUTAba if you know what I'm saying
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>>173999046
Why did this doujin get so nonsensical

Furthermore why is it still the best doujin
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>>173999283
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>>173999324
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>>173999209
delete this, you are NOT allowed to see him as a sympathetic character. he killed people, you know? simply because he was insane.
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>>173999278
>These girls
This girl, anon.
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>>173999357
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>>173999284
actually i'd say murdering people and molesting kids are about on the same level of awful
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>>173998830
Well if it helps, theres been a character who is a cop or plans to become a cop in every game since 2
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>>173996704
It got them in his palace though
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>maxed all social stats at start of october
>all confidants over rank 6 with tower being lowest except for the haru link

fortune is so absurdly strong if you have the money to use it everyday
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>>173999384
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>>173999178

Depends on the spinoff.Q and arena 1 sold the same as/more than several main series games.and Ultimax and DAN sold about the same amount as 3FES.
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>>173999289
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>>173999209

It's still on your for getting manipulated. Manipulation isn't mind control
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>>173999278
Rank up the strength confidant
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>>173999415
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>>173999451
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>>173999393
you're entitled to your opinion, but i disagree.
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>>173999275
he's pretty smart. if he hadn't accidentally made that slip by walking in on morgana talking about pancakes, he would've won.
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>>173999478
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>>173999304
Answered your own question there, anon
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>>173999512
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>>173999546
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>>173998626
probably not since there's no english translation and it's a glorified ROM hack of SMT2 with some bizarre design choices
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>>173999507
Futaba wire tapped his phone too so probably not
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>>173998037
>Why did they get rid of shuffle time
Because shuffle time is absolutely fucking broken
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>>173999583
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please stop the futaba dump
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>>173999371
If it's multiple girls in one form, "these" is more appropriate.
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>>173999275
He's not - he is decently smart but not a genius as he solved the crimes that he himself committed.
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>>173999610
she only had reason to suspect him because morgana brought it up to her.
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>>173999364
>shit nobody said
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>>173999209
>Hideki Kamiya
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>>173999627
I'd rather have a dump of the 4th best girl than more Goro talk desu
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>>173999637
One girl in multiple forms. Just because Yaldy split Lavenza in half with his giant godcock doesn't mean that they stopped being parts of the same person.
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Persona Ultimate Arena Turbo edition Rev 3

Same Roster as the last fighting game+ DLC characters + the Phantom Thieves + Maya and Tatsuya + Nanjo and Eriko

You'd buy it
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>>173999627
Ok but in return post more futaba on /PG/ I barely saw any futaba art when I came here and I had to take it into my own hands to solve this issue
>>173999620
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>>173999712
Goro talk and image dumping had been happening at the same time you fool
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>>173997385

If only there were a dungeon dedicated to giving you an idea about his priorities...
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>>173999794
yeah but if the dump stops it will be only Goro talk
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>>173998236
everyone should be able to agree that katsuya and junpei are both god-tier boys and are both amazing in their own ways
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>>173999764
>Tatsuya
He's not allowed to be a purse owner anymore.
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>>173999431
you've never dealt with abusers who keep their victims under their thumb by playing to their insecurities, huh?

or paid attention to shido also threatening to off goro if he tries to go against his orders (the localization fucked it up a bit but he threatens goro the same way his shadow later threatens the pt during his boss fight)

goro's far from a dindu but his situation's not a clear-cut "he's a shitty person who deserved to die" either
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Have a good day everyone
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>>173999876
Junpei is terrible and you should feel bad
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desu I'd rather Goro fight back against Yaldy rather than Shidou
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>>173999767
How about you just stop image dumping and go to /c/ or /v/ or hell where you belong.
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>>173999745
>Yaldy split Lavenza in half with his giant godcock
delet
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>>173999902
Just wait for /v/ to leave.
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>>173999963
why are Gorofags the only ones allowed to dump?
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>>173999958
You are terrible and should feel bad
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>>174000014
i've been waiting for a week. how am i gonna make it?
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>Rise mentioned as having turned 20.
>No appearance of sexy adult Rise, just poster with her still looking 16.

This game is shit, we got to see an older Chihiro who nobody cares about, but not best grill?
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>>173999902
I don't think he's a shitty person but I still think he deserved to die for what he did. Idk, I'm done talking about it because obviously nobody is going to change their mind.
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>>173999902
What does the localization say when he threatens Goro? I haven't gotten around to playing it in English.
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>>174000043
Do you want to be associated with goro posters?

Go slap your mother for not raising you properly.
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>>173999890

Worse doesn't stop people asking for Doorkun
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>>173999958
excellent meme
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>>174000014
I've been here the whole time actually
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>>173999661
His point probably is, Goro failed to account that his phone was hacked and it was too late by the time he realized it
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Was anyone around when that anon did the screenshot let's play threads of P3, P4, and Nocturne on /v/?
If yes, do you still have the wallpapers? I need those back in my life.
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>>174000105
She was featured on tv, doing lewd strip tease
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Goro deserves to come back, atone for his crimes, and find a way to become a member of the group and finally feel like he belongs.
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>>173999890

Technically he just can't remember IS.

That doesn't mean he can't end up getting a Persona again, although he'll have to start with Vulcanus again.
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>>174000281
someone posted them fw threads back
good luck
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Ann has the best dodging animation
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There's a palace after Shido yes? How easy is it to grind money there, or should I just grind in mementos
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>>174000342

Wait what?

I don't recall this.
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>>174000281
Found the screencap
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How come Katsuya is so best and yet Tatsuya is literally nothing? Everyone should want to fuck the superior Suou brother.
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>>174000351
>tfw you wish he had a chance at happiness but also think his death was very cathartic and fitting
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>>174000351
The PT don't want him, they'd just roast him alive
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>>174000105
>he thinks there's a difference between a 16 year old and 20 year old japanese girl with access to world class beauticians and dieticians
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>>174000470
everyone wanted to fuck tatsuya only because of Lisa's rumor anyway
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>>173999876
>Junpei
>god tier

He's high tier at best. Personally I'd rank Nanjo closer to God tier than Junpei. Katsuya should be Elder God tier.
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>>174000105
It's anime. Also the P3 cast in P4A didn't even look like they aged except Ken.
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>>173999532
that's not a good thing
the beginning was the best part and then I wasn't 100% sure what was happening towards the end
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>>173998718
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>>174000486
They openly display concern for his well-being and even offer him a place at their side before his cognitive self shows up and he reaches the point of no return. I think he could mend the wounds he carved with everyone except Haru and Futaba with time.
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>>174000112
phone scene with goro: "Do you understand what it means to cross me!?"
boss fight with the pt: "I hope you understand what it means to turn your back on me!"

in jp it's "私に刃向うことの意味、わかっているのだろうな!?"/"私に歯向かうことの意味、わかっているのだろうな!?", the kanji difference's a typo in the first scene but still ends up being the same word (hamukau, to oppose)

>>174000268
it's not like he had a reason to suspect his phone was wiretapped, as far as we know there wasn't any visible difference after futaba futzed with it and he thought she was just being a weirdo like sae mentioned to him

the phone realization in the talk show is about sae showing him joker's phone, not his phone being wiretapped
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>>174000351

Okay what about this he comes back. But then he dies again in a far more unambiguous fashion.

Like full on turns to dust and crumbles in front of the whole world
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>>174000351
There's always the timeloop theory.
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>>174000560
that doesn't account for jun and maya
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>>174000568

Yeah, I know, I was mostly joking, a man can just dream.

At least it's something to look forward to when Wada shits out a spinoff.

Also weird to me how Ken's body aged, but the VA switch made him sound like he degenerated further into a child.
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>>174000662
doesn't he threaten the woman in the beginning the same way too?
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>>174000568
Puberty is a hell of a drug
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What party config should I use for Shido?
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>>174000470
Tatsuya doesn't have that deep gap moe and autism like Katsuya.

>>174000560
Tatsuya is canon handsome like his brother. He's just a lot quieter and standoffish.
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>>174000689
You mean the thing that makes literally no sense if you paid attention at all
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>>174000679
If he gets to do it after being a party member in a few more dungeons and finding a way to make amends with some of the Phantom Thieves first, primarily Joker, I'd be okay with it.
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>>174000864
Women only find Tatsuya attractive because his hair makes him look like an actual dick.
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>>173998538
Literally all of them except Carmen look better than the final version
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> Shidou's Palace
> Your attack missed
> Your attack missed
> Your attack missed

What do you do?
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>>174000651

You think that because you have the mind of a child.
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>>173999409
so every time you pay her, the confident rank goes up immediately?
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>>174000563
i think i can accept that mindset
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>>174000610
>I wasn't 100% sure what was happening towards the end

All the ladies had a nice time, that's what matters
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>>174000890
Makes sense to me, and I'm a crazy lorefag. If there was to be something of that sort, it would be Tokyo is a giant palace.

I think the Sophia theory is fun too.
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>>174001059
You're right. They don't openly offer for him to join them and take down Shido together. I imagined it.
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>>174000857
Please respond!
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Anybody else feel like Groo should've joined the team before Haru so he could actually feel like warming up to the team and junk and you could actually get attached to the dude?

Would've improved so much just from that. But nope, it's just a shinjiro situation where they don't have the balls to "get rid" of anybody other than a last minute addition.
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>>174001083
>it would be Tokyo is a giant palace.

literally shitty fanfiction tier

I wish gorofags would kill themselves already
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>>174001062
What are Chie, Yukiko, Ai, Ayase, and Naoto doing there?
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>>174001043
>>174001131
Meant to reply to that.
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>>174001031
masukunda
masukukaja
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>>174000985
Stop this meme, his hair looks fine
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>>174001185
>a last minute addition.
He has plenty of scenes before he joins, anon.
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>>174001083

sophia theory?

I've been under a blackout until I finished the game so I'm behind on theories about this shit. What the hell is the Sophia theory and the timeloop theory?
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Can I not raise Haru and Ryuigi in December? Haven't had them available for a while it seems
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h-hey /pg/

it's been a while
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>>174000679
The only way I'd like to see Goro back is if he died later on, personally. Is implied to have died but comes back to help Joker repel Valdy from the Velvet Room and dies there. It's a much more satisfying end to his arc: instead of dying to himself, he dies defying Valdy's plan to pit him and Joker against each other.
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>>174001191
Nothing wrong with making speculation as long as you know it's not going to happen.

You seem quite upset about it.
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>>174001185

That's how it should have been but they weren't interested in using the betrayal as anything more than a plot device rather than something to geniunely move the player.
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>>174001185
>Anybody else feel like Groo should've joined the team before Haru

That'd have been interesting
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>>174000864
I wish Katsuya would critique my baking skills.
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>>174001264
In eternal punishment it does, yeah.

in innocent sin though? No, it actually is bad. It has no texture and doesn't look like hair. It legitimately does look like a dick.
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>>174001337
I wish this actually happened desu
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>>174001185
Why would I ever get attached to that piece of shit. He's so annoying and obviously lying to everyone because the first time you meet him he can hear Morgana.

Do you forget that even if he wasn't a fucking traitorous psychopathic hitman with daddy issues he was still trying to shut down the PT?

He was nothing but antagonistic to the entire team. Nobody in or associated with the PT like him.
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>>174000817
nope, different wording in that scene

the phone call/boss fight scenes use identical wording aside from that typo in the jp version though, probably intentional so people find out what he meant by that in the phone call scene (since he actually clarifies his threat in the boss fight)
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>>174001337
>Valdy
It's Yaldy
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>>174001337
that would've been really cool tbqh
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>>174001493
fuck
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>>174001416
It's just a problem with the portrait lacking detail, the actual hairstyle itself is fine.
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>>174001440
Calm down Diego.
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>>174001325
>the game now has 10000% more slow motion
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>>174001295

I know that, but he doesn't as a part of the actual "team" He's used as a plot device you can see from a mile away rather than making the betrayal actually interesting and well done.

You feel nothing when it happens because he was never a part of the team anyway.

Shinjiro has plenty of scenes too, but it doesn't make how they handled it good.

>>174001374

Exactly, which is why I'm disappointing. It could've been much more. That's basically the entirety of Goro, "Could've been so much more than what he was."
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>>174001440
hi diego

still projecting huh
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Is Hifumi(Star) worth past like rank 1-3?
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>>174001301
Sophia is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism)
in short, she gave birth to Yaldy in gnosticism. There is nothing in game that supports her existence and people who want her to be a thing are basically asking for a Marie 2.0
Timeloop is about how some character say they felt like they've met before, like. people want this one to be true only because they want to save Goro and have him return.
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How exactly do the mental shutdowns work? Like the ones Akechi enacts?

He just kills the Metaverse equivalent to a person and they basically die IRL?
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>>174001337
>he dies defying Valdy's plan

Why would that be a better arc, that's some babyshit saturday morning cartoon garbage. Why would he suddenly change his plan at the end?
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>>174001639
I think for an villain persona user who was already a wildcard for 2+ years before he met the MC and betrays the player, he could've been a lot more.
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>>174001325
Oh god it really is

>game MC is Hideo Kojima
>game bad guy is Hideki Kamiya
What are you trying to say, Atlus?
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>>174001639
>Could've been so much more than what he was
This applies to half the characters. They need to stop having such bloated casts.
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>>174001684
yes
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>>174001697
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>>174001789
Y tho
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>>174001694
People wanted Sophia because they wanted to defeat a secret boss like in P4. I don't think it was a matter of Marie but a bad guy that is behind the bad guy.

She is a name mentioned by Jung himself.
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>>173998794
I want to get Goro to attempt to murder me, except it's a body double, then I laugh at and fuck with him in secret while he thinks I'm dead.
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>>174001662
>>174001624
who

Is that some boogeyman goro posters came up with because only one person could possibly point out that their fanfiction makes no sense?
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>>174001815
Switch party members on anyone's turn
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>>174001827
I knew there was somehting more but I couldn't remember.
>I don't think it was a matter of Marie
it's not but since we know Sophia isn't a thing that exists in P5, people who still want her to happen are basically asking for a new special snowflake character like Marie to be added in P5C
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>>174001697
Stealing a person's treasure makes someone confess their crimes or free them from their past that was warped by their desires.

Killing a person's shadow destroys their cognition/psyche/soul entirely. Basically, think P3's Apathy Syndrome. The shadow, or Id, represents the desires and primal needs of a human being plus the things they want no one else to see. And what is one of the primal needs of man? The will to live.
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>>173994496
>Considering how badly P4 got whored out I wonder what they're gonna do for this one.
I think P3/4 mostly got whored out because of how long it was taking P5 to get made. Hopefully P6 won't take so long that that would be necessary.

With that said, I'd still like a few P5 spin-offs.
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>no trophy for doing the yaldy ending

fuck this game
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>>174001719
What are you talking about? Goro's plan would've already fallen apart because Shido already had his change of heart. I don't think Goro would've taken kindly to being manipulated by both Shido AND being pit against Joker by Yaldy.
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>>174001975
>think P3's Apathy Syndrome.

Isn't it worse though? People recovered from their Apathy Syndrome. This is more like what happened to Yukino in IS if her shadow kills itself.
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>>174001719
he changed his plan suddenly in the end when he told the PT to go change shidou's heart in his stead
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>>174002040
goro is a pussy fagboi, he would have taken it like the little bitch he is
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>>174001837
how do i become joker mode
especially that hair
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>>174001975

Funny thing is, this plot point is actually one of the most consistent things in the series.

Even dancing All night is consistent with this. It has apathy syndrome" happening, people's shadows are ripped out of them and they go comatose, just the same as 3.
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>>174001975
So when Kobayakawa and the SIU Director kicked the bucket, did their Shadows exist in the Metaverse first and then Akechi got rid of them? Then in IRL they lose their will to live like the Apathy Syndrome, but it's more extreme and basically kills them? From what I remember, Kobayakawa just stood in the middle of the road like he was having a stroke and the truck driver somehow didn't see him, so that seemed like a complete shutdown, while I think Okumura and the SIU Director both just straight up died?
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>>174002003
I think it would be better to do P6 and then start pumping out spin-offs. I'd rather get spin-offs with 2 fresh casts instead of more shit with 4's cast.
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>>174002176

Burgers
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>>174002176
Go outside
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Why did Ichiko's partner not die when he became a mental shutdown victim?
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>>174001972
That is true unless they add different dialogue hints instead of a random NPC that is suddenly prominent.

People came into P5 thinking there would be a TRUEST end like P4 and it turned out to be like P1/3 where there are only two endings: good and bad.
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>>174002261

You're going to get spinoffs with 40 characters from all 4 games.

Careful what you wish for.
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Can I still do Confidants if I beat Shido?
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>>174002091
it's basically permanent apathy syndrome iirc, victim stays alive but catatonic once it fulls kicks in and dies because they can't take care of themselves eventually unless they're placed in hospital like oya's partner

for people with health issues or of old age it's potentially lethal because of the shock when it kicks in

>>174002040
>I don't think Goro would've taken kindly to being manipulated by both Shido AND being pit against Joker by Yaldy.
don't think he'd take kindly to finding out even the guy who granted him his powers was manipulating him either
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>>174002280
>Truest end

Well P4 was all about the truth.
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>>174002278
The body is alive but the soul is gone. Wakaba and the principal happened to be in the streets and got ran over by cars.
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>>174002341
It better be a damn cart racing game.
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>>174002397
Okumura and the director just died though, why is her partner different?
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>worst game in the series
>has the most spin offs

memes were a mistake
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I didnt know you can 1 day Shido dungeon well shit
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At least they included a waifu for SMTfags.
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I'm in love with Anne Takamaki?
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>>174002518
I don't know, are you?
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>>174002458
What? I thought it requires three visits.

First to find out that you need the five letters, second to actually go through it (culminating in the Akechi boss fight), then you send the calling card and the third visit is when you fight Shido.
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>>174002452
why is this shit spin off prettier graphics wise than P5
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>>174002217
Deepest lore.

>>174002452
But that's not none of the games

>>174002458
Doesn't it force you out when you find the doors?
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I'll be massively disappointed if they redeem Goro without majorly changing his story in general.

He basically is a textbook sociopath and that's not fixed with the few sympathetic sentences the PTs throw at him after their battle.
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>>174002236
>>174002278


Older or frailer people tend to just die outright from the shock like Haru's father and the old geezer running the SIU.

Ichiko's partner was around her age so their body was able to handle the shock without dying.
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Okumura's dungeon is the worst. The fucking worst. Literally just corridors and forced fights and everything shits on Phys so your SP is slowly sucked away.
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>>174002507
She's humorous


>>174002592
There's always a worst anon, even if everything else is a 100/100 and one is a 99/100 that one is the worst
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>>174002601
shut up diego
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>>174002601
How did I never notice before now that Naoto looks like a fucking frog?
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>>174002236
mental shutdowns take a while to kick in, once they do the person goes catatonic (like the principal)

for people in poor health (okumura, haru mentions it in a chat iirc) or of old age (the SIU chief) it's potentially lethal because of the shock on onset

>>174002278
mental shutdowns don't kill outright unless the victim's already not in good health/old enough for health complications

>>174002280
two bad endings and one good ending actually

weird thing is there's a placeholder (?) file for a true end credits image in the files but afaik it's never called on
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>>174002507
I'm such a sucker for the punk look.
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>>174002573

I assume that anon didn't include the obligatory initial investigation and calling card break, since every dungeon has those.

Which makes me wonder what they thought was the mandatory break otherwise?
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>>174002601
>textbook sociopath
>sincerely feels remorse

Here's your (You) Diego.
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>>174002684
You didn't notice that she was modeled off of Emma Stone?
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>>174002591
models are the main focus and it's much shorter
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>>174002747
>>174002672
This diego meme is maybe the worst thing that's ever happened in /pg/
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So, will they make a full Persona 5 anime?
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Are the Phantom Thieves JUST
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>>174002791
the "goro is a terrible person" thing is worse desu
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>>174002704
>weird thing is there's a placeholder (?) file for a true end credits image in the files but afaik it's never called on

That's what triggered /pg/ into thinking there would be more, but I guess that file doesn't really do anything.

>>174002791
t. Diego
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>>174002773

Holy shit, you people weren't kidding.

These models actually are better than P5.
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>>174002670
But what do you do when you can't tell for sure what's a 99 and what's a 100?

>>174002704
>weird thing is there's a placeholder (?) file for a true end credits image in the files but afaik it's never called on
This makes me a little suspicious. Though it's probably nothing.

>>174002773
That and a dancing game obviously needs better animation.
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>>174002791
obsessing over attention-whoring femanons and that one faggot from neogaf I forgot his name already were worse
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>>174002601
he's not a "textbook sociopath", sociopaths don't feel guilt, we've been over this

>>174002447
okumura's health was poor, the SIU chief was an old geezer, the shock on onset killed them like a heart attack

the principal, wakaba and kayo just go catatonic apathy syndrome style because they were in better health when their mental shutdown kicked in
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>>174002857
literally a serial killer
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>>174002857
Good thing nobody said that then
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>>174002236
Everyone has a shadow, but when they begin developing warped desires and problematic behavior their Shadow sets up shop in the Metaverse.

Okumura (abused his employees), Kobayakawa (covered up Kamoshida's scandal), and the SIU Director (using Goro as a hitman) were involved with Shido in some way or fashion and they each committed horrid acts based upon their desires.

Suffice it to say, their shadows were killed. I'm guessing the process of their deaths start off like Apathy Syndrome but then it progressively gets more extreme.

So the process of "Shellification" or "Shadow Death" could look like this;

1. Apathy Syndrome or Onset of disease like symptoms (Kobayakawa's heart attack)
2. Mental shutdown onset (eyes rolling up)
3. Complete mental shutdown (catatonic state)
4. Death
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>>174002859
Explain.
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>>174002747
Sociopath as in he's that way, because of social reasons like his shitty upbringing, so yes his remorse at the end is possible while still being a sociopath, however making him a reliable party member even after that would be shit writing after the way he was handled before, which I found alright

I just get buttmad at all the redemptionfags
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>>174002591
because it's not a 80-hour rpg
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>>174002824
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>>174002859

That's easy when there's only a handful required instead of 9 party members countless NPCs and over 100 something Persona's.

It's a dancing game. The actual story parts are just portraits and dialogue.
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>>174002873

>This makes me a little suspicious. Though it's probably nothing

It's probably something they wanted to do but left unfinished like the second half of the game because Hasahino and Co were busy huffing glue in the back office.
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>>174002892
>the principal
>better health

I don't know why I found that funny.
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>>174002953
of course they didnt anon
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>>174002957
Why did Wakaba have a shadow?
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>>174002986
QUE ES FANTOM THIEF?
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>>174003036
everyone has a shadow
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>>174002704
>weird thing is there's a placeholder (?) file for a true end credits image in the files but afaik it's never called on

Yeah what's up with that. Isn't there a bad end, normal end and true end marker? What's the normal end then? Making a deal with Yaldy.
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>>174002980
Then it's not being a sociopath now is it? Don't use terms that don't apply. If the shoe don't fit, anon.
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When do I get to itemize Personas? Is there a list of what Persona gives what?
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>>174001325
>this plays while fighting shidou

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZAHk0g-Nfk
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>>174002980
sociopaths literally don't feel remorse so he can't be one by definition, stop being dumb
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>>174003110
not vampires
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>>174003006
I mean they literally didn't. Take a step back and stop taking every suggestion that Goro doesn't deserve to be welcomed into the PT with open arms as a personal attack.
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Where do I go to get the mafia intel?
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>>174002809
Hopefully never, P4A was garbage.
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The only spin off I will accept is a full on dating sim starring Ryuji
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What leftover shit/unused plotlines/dropped stuff in development are there? I find this shit really interesting, and could probably lead to decent discussion aside from shitposting. I heard about Hifumi being a dropped party member, and >>174002704 with the ? file. Is there anything else that could come out on August/P5C? Or that we're missing?

Also, I don't know if this has been discussed to death (it probably has), but what the fuck was up with the final part of Sae's social link. It was that jumbled mess of ?s and lead to nothing. So I guess that's another thing?
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>>174003152
Sociopath might not be the right word then

What is he, then? Just a psychopath?
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>>174003003

Kingpin is actually in great shape despite his flab.
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>>174002957
the principal didn't have a heart attack, just went catatonic in the middle of the street

mental shutdown victims can be kept alive once they go catatonic if they have a caretaker but they'll never recover from their catatonia

>>174003036
everyone has a shadow (persona users' shadows are their personas)

>>174002873
>This makes me a little suspicious. Though it's probably nothing.
iirc there's some other empty placeholder files for portraits too

feels like they planned to add more at some point but ran out of time and just dummied what they had out
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>>174003152
sociopath and psychopath don't have colloquial usages, i forgot
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>>174003262
those are the same thing and not actual clinical terms. you don't have to apply those terms to him, dude.
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>>174003262
He's not a psychopath either.
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>>174003152
>>174003128
>>174002980
>>174002747
>>174003262
sociopath isn't actually a thing and even if it was it just means impaired empathy not literally feels none ever
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>>174003128
The way I learned it(and there are contradicting sources/denominations):
Sociopaths which would fit Goro are that way because of social reasons in their development
Psychopaths are that way because of biological reasons, their brain is literally wired differently, and I don't think thats the case with Goro or else he really wouldn't feel any remorse.
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>>174003295
>feels like they planned to add more at some point but ran out of time and just dummied what they had out
Pretty sure that happens with every game ever. Though I'd like to think they have more plans for later.
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>>174003362
>>174003360
>>174003352
So how would you describe him then, if you had to do so in one word? Sociopath and psychopath don't apply, so what would?
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>tfw spending half the game waiting for Yusuke to flip out and start cutting people down screeching IEYASUUUU
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>>174003110

That's actually not apparantly true. People that are completely and entirely content and without distortion like Sojiro seem to be lacking a shadow, or at the very least the navi can't locate them.

Which would imply that all of Goro's victims had at least some issues (though like Futaba and Sae, that doesn't mean they were evil ones)
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>>174003406
>So how would you describe him then, if you had to do so in one word? Sociopath and psychopath don't apply, so what would?
Why does that even matter?
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>another goro thread
i'll try again tomorrow
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>>174003406
He is a psychopath
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>>174003406
Shit
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>>174003468
Why does it not matter?
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>>174003406
Not everything has clearcut labels anon.

>>174003362
Goro doesn't have impaired empathy though.
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>>174003406
>So how would you describe him then, if you had to do so in one word?
Jackass.
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>>174003406
Someone who doesn't have or need a clear cut label, just like the rest of the cast.
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When can I get sensei back after she wants to quit?
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>>174003443
Everyone has shadows, you retard. Not everyone has a palace which is entirely different.
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>>174003406
badly written character
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>>174003572
I think he does, all the scenes where he is amicable or plays the crowd, then switches a second later just scream 'sociopath' to me
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>>174003572
>Goro doesn't have impaired empathy though
Is there any evidence of this
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>>174003727
Are all actors sociopaths?
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>>174003662
It has to be at school.

>>174003727
It's almost as if he has a mask or something!
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>>174003572
>Goro doesn't have impaired empathy though

He has no problem killing people to gain the affection of his daddy. He's also constantly offputting members of the PT and playing it off with politeness which we saw was just a ruse.

>eats food off their table
>deceives them to try and con them into doing a fake heist to set them up and kill joker making it look like a suicide
>upsets every member of the team by acting inappropriately
>welcomes home joker who clearly is weary of him if not outright hostile towards him

Every scene he's in he's doing something antagonistic and plays it off. That pretty boy nice character is all an act. He is absolutely 100% a psychopath with impaired empathy
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>>174003243
This, also, what was up with Morganas fucked up dreams? They never explained why he was having them or what Shadow Morgana was.
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>>174003808
I'm on your side but this is an incredibly shitty argument on your part.
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>>174003662

You need to do it while you're in school
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>>174003727
gee anon i wonder if the theme of the entire series if the mask you put on in front of others
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>>174003808
Most actors aren't also murderers
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>>174003856
Morgana's dreams were presumably him being created to be an Attendant.
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>>174003856

Shadows aren't the only ones with yellow eyes, anon.
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>>174003856

From what I gathered he was remembering his birth and escape from mementos incorrectly, as shadows have the same eye color as velvet room attendants. It was intentionally misleading because that's how he viewed it himself, similar to a lot of stuff in the game.
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>>174004021
So if Morgana did have a human form, he'd also have silver hair like the attendants?
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>>174003873
So because he's putting a mask on that means he can't have impaired empathy?
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>>174003834
You don't see his act as a defense mechanism? The boy hasn't been shown love at all and the only way he could make it out was to be the perfect kid society wants. Japan treats bastard children and orphans like garbage. Their foster home system is third world country tier.

There is nothing "psychotic" about being passive aggressive.

>welcomes home joker who clearly is weary of him if not outright hostile towards him
That's only if you CHOOSE to be hostile towards Goro.

>eats food off their table
What the hell does that even...
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>>174003204

Seriously I'm stuck.
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>>174003873
Well Goro puts his Mask above his Murderface, because he needs to hide it, not to protect his 'true self' which would be the usual meaning of mask/persona in the series.
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>Persona is now a normie game
Kill me
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>>174004136
>What the hell does that even...
he's obviously talking about the takoyaki scene
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>>174004136
>eats food off their table
>What the hell does that even...
I think that that anon is talking about the takoyaki during the school festival.
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>>174004207
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>>174004136
He wasn't just being passive aggressive, he was playing mind games.
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>>174004136
>There is nothing "psychotic" about being passive aggressive.

There is actually, try picking up a book instead of thinking psychopath means crazy axe wielding murderer who acts like Letherface 100% of the time

>what does eating other people's food without asking have to do with having impaired empathy or not

I don't care if he has a tragic backstory, having a sad life doesn't make your actions less true.
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>>174004264
>>174004310
Yes but what does that have to do with his argument about being a psychopath? He saw familiar faces and took a takoyaki from their table. It's not like he went to a complete stranger and ate their meal.
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>>174004136
>Japan treats bastard children and orphans like garbage. Their foster home system is third world country tier.
Is this why 9/10 of JRPGs start with orphaned heroes, who may or may not know who their parents are?

Also, sounds like Futaba will be fucked, too. Dead, missing parents and a bastard child.
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>>174003694

Not everyone's shadow is free of them and in Mementos ready to be targeted is what they probably mean.
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>>174003808
depends of the school
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>>174003243
I haven't been able to go over all the files, but here's what I know of:

>staff_roll has three ending images: endcut_bad (used for both bad endings), endcut_normal (used for the post-Yaldabaoth ending), and endcut_ture (typoed in the files, not used AFAIK and identical to endcut_normal).
>bustup has several empty additional .bin files that, going by the file names, would've corresponded to additional expressions; notably this doesn't include every character, only the main party (Goro included), Iwai, Kawakami, Shadow Sae, Takemi, Yoshida, all of the bosses, Wakaba, Haru's fiancee, and the SIU chief.
>There are unused cut-ins for Goro, Lavenza, Shidou, and all of the bosses' Shadow selves. I think Okumura also has a few additional ones that weren't in the game, but I'd have to check again. Curiously, these are all listed in the Official Design Works too, despite not being used.
>Goro has unused dialogue as a party member for summoning Loki (in both the JP version and the localization).
>The cutscene after Goro's boss fight has unused dialogue in the voice files only (some of which was dubbed in the localization, but not all of it), including what sounds like lines for what would've been an extra choice.
>That really short scene after Kaneshiro's confession where Goro mentions the PT and then swears has an extra line in the voice files that's identical to his voice line at the start of his first boss fight.

Hifumi as a potential party member was probably an idea that didn't make it past the initial concept stages, since there don't seem to be any traces of it in the game's files. There IS, however, some indication that they might've moved some things around a bit during development - the files for Goro's first boss fight are actually sorted between the ones for Piggytron's and Sphinx's boss fights, for some reason. That's the only instance of something like that I've found so far, though.
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>>174004373
Anon if you know someone's face that doesn't mean it's okay to eat their food without asking.
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>>174004225
Nah. Hasn't it sold like 1.5 million copies? It's not going to be doing CoD/Battlefield/Minecraft/whatever we consider mainstream now numbers.
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>>174004476
>>The cutscene after Goro's boss fight has unused dialogue in the voice files only (some of which was dubbed in the localization, but not all of it), including what sounds like lines for what would've been an extra choice.
Source on this?
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>>174004372
I'm quite well read as yourself anon, and I'm sorry I still not not see Goro as someone with a personality disorder.

I also not saying his sad life means he has an excuse.
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>>174004373
I'm not saying he's a psychopath but
>He saw familiar faces and took a takoyaki from their table.
that's not really acceptable behavior
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>>174004225
Persona 4 came out 9 years ago, anon.
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>>174004574
>I still not not see Goro as someone with a personality disorder.

Please explain how he was totally cool with being a hitman then, that totally normal job people without personality disorders are capable of doing.
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>>174004574
>I'm quite well read as yourself anon
>I'm sorry I still not not see Goro

seems like it
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>>174004381

9/10s of JRPGs don't take place in the actual Japan societial problems and all.

Futaba's fine, because Sojiro was there for her and she wasn't orphaned until she was a teen so she wasn't lacking a parent in critical development years.
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> Still defending Goro

Murderer, Scumbag, Piece of shit
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>>174004476

Interesting that shadow Kaneshiro in these cut-ins has normal skin pigmentation.
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>>174003243
>Hifumi being a dropped party member
There's this page in the design works, and that girl on the top is supposed to be an early concept Hifumi and her thief costume.
To my knowledge there are no files about her being a party member, so she must have been cut relatively early.

I remember that when /pg/ first found out back in August, we came up with ideas on what her persona/outfit/palace/whatever would be like. Some of it was pretty interesting.
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>>174004372
You're not very well read if you think psychopath is an actual clear cut term and therefore don't see the futility in arguing about it.
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Mishima's Confidant is semi-auto right

Like you don't have to pick the right answers or even bring a Moon Persona, it'll almost always rank up?

Because I fucking HATE this prick and I want to be as big of a dick as I can to him
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>>174004724
nice bait, broski! do me another!
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>>174004749
Man, that art looks way better than P4's concept design.
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>>174004785
Do you even need to pick the right answers at all in P5?
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>>174004476
>Goro has unused dialogue as a party member for summoning Loki (in both the JP version and the localization).

Can you post some of this one SoundCloud for shits and giggles please?

This also makes me wonder what kind of Atlus ruse cruise we've all unknowingly embarked on by playing Persona 5
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>>174004225
Fatlus syndrome will consume all

it will, just wait
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itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte
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>>174004763

That was never said in that post, please pay more attention.

>>174004724

I'm fine with people liking Goro, it's not like there's anything wrong with enjoying a villain in a story but the goro fanboys who pretend like he's redeemable and sympathetic and not a psycho are delusional.
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>>174004785
Yes
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>>174004785
>I fucking HATE this prick

funny since the fags here were all over him when the game release lol
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>Goemon was boiled alive
>Goemon is weak to Fire
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>>174004476
goro has lines for summoning loki in a normal not totally losing his mind voice too
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>>174004936
Makes you think
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>>174004763
The terms aren't clear cut, but imo it's not futile to argue about in Goro's case, there seem to be people on both sides of the issue, some think there's something fundamentally wrong with him, others think he could/should be redeemed
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>>174004663
Well read doesn't mean I can write like a pro. I dun fucked up.

>>174004656
He didn't seem cool with being a hitman. He had remorse and lamented his methods when he found out about the calling card.

He was a loveless kid that was manipulated by the very man he hated but also wanted. Goro is still guilty of murder though. I saw it more as a child soldier sort of deal.

I suppose one could say that child soldiers do have personality disorders based on their trauma and manipulation.
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>>174004225
>SMT still isn't
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>>174004749
Is that a skull and crossbones on her little hat? Or am I just imaging her connection to Ryuji?
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>>174004936
deepest lore
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>>174004476
>>Goro has unused dialogue as a party member for summoning Loki (in both the JP version and the localization).
>>The cutscene after Goro's boss fight has unused dialogue in the voice files only (some of which was dubbed in the localization, but not all of it), including what sounds like lines for what would've been an extra choice.

I'd really like to hear those, anon, specially the second one - do you think you could upload them?
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>>173996396
>based meido teacher
>3rd
Your shit taste disgusts me, /pg/
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>>174004918
I don't think he's exactly redeemable but if you don't think he was deliberately written to be sympathetic you're delusional, especially with Hashino's "you may feel sympathetic for the villain" comment pre release.
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>>174004918
>I'm fine with people liking Goro, it's not like there's anything wrong with enjoying a villain in a story but the goro fanboys who pretend like he's redeemable and sympathetic and not a psycho are delusional.
It's probably the same people as the Adachi fans. It's one thing to like a villain as a villain. It's another thing to think the villain has some points or deserves some sympathy but to still understand he's an asshole. And then there's the "he didn't do anything wrong" types.
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>>174005028
And will never be
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>>174005015
He did the Hitman job by his own choosing, to make Shido acknowledge him, that's not a plan a mentally healthy person would have chosen.
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>>174005065
I don't think anyone has been seriously arguing that he wasn't meant to be sympathetic.
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>>174003443
no, everyone has a shadow, that's a canon fact

not all of them can be found in mementos because not all of them are starting to become distorted from a desire, but everyone has a shadow because they're your subconscious, another side of you

>>174003834
did you miss him trying to rationalize his victims as shitty people before his first boss fight? or the whole "if wakaba stopped her research when she was told to she wouldn't have had to die"? dude needs to tell himself his victims deserved it to keep going, and even then okumura's death freaks him out and he gets spacey about it at leblanc

>eats food off their table
that's being childish, not sociopathic

>deceives them to try and con them into doing a fake heist to set them up and kill joker making it look like a suicide
wasn't a fake heist, if they hadn't confronted sae's shadow and later sae herself the police would've done an investigation at leblanc and arrested the pt

killing joker was shido's orders

>upsets every member of the team by acting inappropriately
no? he gets along decently with the team by the last parts of the casino

>welcomes home joker who clearly is weary of him if not outright hostile towards him
they've known each other for months by then, had multiple friendly conversations, and joker's default response is to play along with that joke

>That pretty boy nice character is all an act.
did you miss him believing his own act as genuine after the first boss fight? or loki representing identity issues? he puts up a mask but it's not completely fake

morgana even calls him out on that
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>>174004225
It's always been around the level it's at right now, you're just noticing more because an actual game came out.

>>174005112
I wouldn't be so sure. Getting a slot in the Switch presentation is pretty big, even if it isn't traditional SMT and MegaTen instead.
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>>174004918
>Redeemable
Extremely hard to do, but it can with a good enough writer of which Atlus lacks.

>Sympathetic
He's pretty sympathetic if you ask me.

>psycho
Nope.
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>>174004869
Looks the same to me. Soejima is good.
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>>174005178
>I don't think anyone has been seriously arguing that he wasn't meant to be sympathetic.
>goro fanboys who pretend like he's redeemable and sympathetic and not a psycho are delusional.
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>>174005180
Even children have enough empathy to not eat food off other people's plates.
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>Harus link

Was actually pretty refreshing that it was a misunderstanding.
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>>174005180
>killing joker was shido's orders

He seemed to fucking love it, though.
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>>174005015
did you forget the fact that goro himself was the one who approached shido and showed him his powers, knowing fully well what was going to happen?
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>>174005174
he only approached shido with his berserking ability to bail him out of a scandal

shido manipulated him into using his powers to kill and by then goro couldn't back out without shido threatening to kill him for disobeying him
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I hope someone gets a Mech Persona in P6

Motorcycles just aren't enough
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>>174005248
>seriously arguing
That was obvious bait
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>>174004225
Ever since Persona 3 but honestly the lol waifus lol cowboy bebop lol k-on memes normalized otaku culture.
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>>174005112
Just make some sort of SMT x Dark Souls crossover game.
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When a coop calls you via the IM thing do you get bonus point in the same way as when characters called you during lunch in 3 and 4?

And does it make any difference if I put on hold or just ignore?
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>>174004476
>>Goro has unused dialogue as a party member for summoning Loki (in both the JP version and the localization).
This might just be something done for failsafe purposes so the game doesn't crash if he somehow was loaded in. Similar to how the MC in P3 has voice lines for SEES and Strega's Personas.
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>>174004869
I like Soejima's traditional art more than digital desu
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>>174005174
Shido was the one who told him to use his powers in that manner.

That is the plan someone with a fucked up upbringing would choose. Did you not see the child soldier comment?

>>174005324
You think an emotionally traumatized 15 year old is smart enough to think about consequences?
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>>174004476

Good shit anon. Wonder if Akechi was supposed to be a reoccuring mini-boss in dungeons. Would have been neat.

>>174004749

Wasn't really a big fan of her, but the way they introduced her and discussed her early on was pretty odd. Felt like she was more important than she is.
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>>174005390
I want someone to hack a playable Loki already
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>>174005337
Did... you not max Makoto's Confidant bond? She gets a mech

Though unfortunately she doesn't ride it like she rode Johanna. If she had just done that and her Confidant bond was just better she'd easily be perfect.
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Do you get to steal this guy's heart in Haru's confidant? I can't fathom why the prospect of it is never brought up.
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>>174005102
I like Goro and hate Adachi. What now?
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>>174005180
>killing joker was shido's orders

Yes clearly Goro really hated doing it
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>>174005345
The "lol waifu" culture and the "lol cowboy bebop" culture are different groups of people.
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>>174005180
I like Goro but "he was just following orders" is not a good defense
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>>174005526
You go to jail.
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>>174005390
If that were the case, you'd programmatically just put in a null check instead of paying to have the lines voiced. If they're going through that trouble, it probably more or less means it was planned and not implemented ultimately.
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>>174005324
He approached Shidou and offered to get himself out of a scandal with his berserk powers, there was no killing involved then. Shadow Shidou literally brags about setting him up to make him use his powers to kill. I seriously doubt a dumb, traumatized 15 year old with nothing to lose was smart enough to think it through.
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>>174005453
No, but you effectively get him to fuck off.

If you want spoilers his marriage contract was a sham and the new boss of big bang burger that was pushing Haru to marry him thought that Haru genuinely liked him and was doing nothing malicious
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>>174004880

If you don't want to have get 10 extra rank up points then yes.

Except for Moon and Sun, where it doesn't matter what you say.
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>>174005453
At least this fiance is cute. Mitsuru's was ugly as sin.

>>174005549
We about to get Nuremburg up in this shit.

>>174005529
Did you not see the train station scene?
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>>174005450
it's a shit mech for a shit waifu
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>>173996407
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>>174005226
>>psycho
>Nope.
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>>174005638
DO YOU NOT SEE THAT HE IS LITERALLY REVELING IN KILLING JOKER WHEN HE THINKS NOBODY IS AROUND TO SEE HIM?
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>>174005638
What train station scene?
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>>174005036
It looks like one, yeah
>tfw we could have gotten a chuuni pirate girl

>>174005418
Yeah, I felt that way too.
Maybe it was a lead-up to announcing that her VA was one of the PSC hosts
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>>174005669
>shit waifu
No P5 girls are shit. Except Shiho
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>>174004936
>>174004983
>>174005043
Actual story of this is badass as fuck. That kid he's holding over his head is his son; they were both sentenced to death by boiling in oil, but he didn't want to subject his kid to any pain so he held him over his head while his lower body got deepfried. When it got to a point where he knew he wasn't going to keep him above the oil much longer, he dunked him into the bottom to at least make it quick.
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>>174005669
Accel?
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>>174005767
死ね
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>>174005721
When he's talking to Shido and getting threatened.

>>174005687
>>174005713
Aim for the Gold!

When the adrenaline dies, he thinks a lot about it and not in the WOW THAT WAS AWESOME way.
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Why is Kanji still best boy?
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>>174005453
No but you steal Haru instead
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>>174005529
>>174005687
>>174005713
Don't forget when he shot a police officer without even blinking before killing joker.
>inb4 the police officer was a fake
He didn't know that.
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>>174005687
Loser has to get into point blank range to get a headshot on a guy sitting still in a chair.

>>174005745
Now I want to know the type of place you'd recruit her.
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>>174005839
he's not
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>>174005806
Why do people always look cross eyed in paintings like these
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>>174005806
Hideyoshi was a real piece of shit

>>174005839
Kanji is really underdeveloped unfortunately, he's cool but his arc is ridiculous. He could have used more scenes like helping take care of Nanako or the kids in town showing his soft side instead of being a weird male tsundere who thought he was gay one time.
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Loki is cool
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>>174005839
Just stop trying with this. Katsuya is, and always will be best boy. Nu-Persona fans are so cringey trying to contest this, you don't belong here.
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>>174005767
But what about nevermind, all are good.

>>174005637
I wonder why Sun of all the confidants leveled every rank. Seems pretty arbitrary.
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Something I don't get
>Yaldawhoever sets up game with Joker and Goro
>gives them both their powers
>Joker awakens to it when he gets to Shibuya
>...but Goro has apparently been using his powers for years, since Wakaba died 2 years ago

This confuses me a lot because then Goro's been doing this since he was 15 which is slightly unbelievable and also because why would he get his powers earlier than Akira? But also I can't imagine it being anyone else.
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Is Goro the most controversial character in the series?
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>>174005832
anne stop posting
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>>174006015
asians look cross eyed more often than they don't
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>>174005713
Not forget he makes this face too after poking him with his gun
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>>174006041
He's rad as fuck, I'm just not sure how they got him from the original MegaTen demon.
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>>174006032
>tfw no Warring States era Persona game
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>>174006112
>The first post poll is split almost right down the middle.
Probably. Maybe Adachi.
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>>174006045
>Nu-Persona fans
Don't do this.

>>174006112
No. He';s just another pretty boy villain. Fans will be divided along the same old fujo/non-fujo lines.
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>>174006183
PERSONA WARRIORS WHEN
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>>174006112
>Is Goro the most controversial character in the series?

not really only if your a fag defending a murderer
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>>174006149
>gorofags think this is normal behavior

>>174006112
Not really, Adachi has more shitposting memes, Kanji is gay lasted longer, Naoto is a boy lasted longer, Tatsuya being bisexual was the only thing that caused actual controversy

Goro has the most smelly fujo fans though
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>>174006104
>This confuses me a lot because then Goro's been doing this since he was 15 which is slightly unbelievable and also because why would he get his powers earlier than Akira? But also I can't imagine it being anyone else.
Yaldy was pretty biased. Wouldn't surprise me if it was to screw with his own game.
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>>174006178

They always go for a completely original concept when making an established identity a main cast persona.
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>>174006104

Same reason Yaldy tries to insist Joker lost even when Goro was dead and tried to kill him, and interpreted either side winning as "I get to remake and take over the world"

Game was rigged so Yaldy could get the outcome he wanted regardless.
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>>174006178
I remember an anon going into detail about it months ago but it's easily a top-tier Persona, both in design and adherence to the mythology. Kaneko's design is a lot less creative here which is unusual, overall I get the impression Norse mythology's not one of his favorites.
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>>174006104
Lawfags gonna lawfag

Lawfags in SMT are literally "it's okay when we do it" and "murder isn't wrong if you're a good person because if you're good and you kill someone they must be bad so it's okay"
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>>174006178
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So, is the real lesson of P5 not to fuck with Igor?
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>>174005886
Someone on here suggested that her palace could be some kind of battlefield, and you could use Morgana to traverse it. You'd have to dodge artillery fire and other shite as you drive from skirmish to skirmish.
It's supposed to tie in with the whole martial aspect she seemed to have, and how early concept art of P5 featured more vehicles than what we got.
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Does training in your house ever become worth it? I'm doing it on nights when no one is available, but it's only giving like 5 HP per session with 1 bonus from the protein.
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>>174006402
I figured Loki might be a special case due to his importance to the franchise in general. Although they probably got the black and white color scheme from his original appearance.

>>174006520
Holy shit this is actually really cool
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>favorite girl has switched from Haru to Makoto to Futaba to Haru again to Oya to now Ann
How am I supposed to stay monogamous when I'm the world's biggest slut
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>>174006312
>Tatsuya being bisexual was the only thing that caused actual controversy
When
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>>174006178
that's so 90s it hurts
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This debate is starting to sound a little too familiar. Haven't we been over the bad ending 1 cutoff scenes three or four times or so already?

>>174004886
>>174004527
>>174005047
I'll have to dig up the files again, but if you don't mind waiting a bit, I'll see what I can do.

Don't get too excited about the post-boss fight dialogue, it's nothing especially interesting aside from the extra choice-related dialogue.

>>174004728
All of the extra Shadow cut-ins seem to use their regular designs with yellow eyes, instead of their corrupted palace lord versions (except for Shadow Sae, who has two additional ones in her palace outfit too, and Shadow Shidou, who has a single cut-in in his palace outfit that's never used). It's pretty weird.

>>174005390
I don't think that's it. Unlike in P3, there aren't any placeholder clips for Joker using Personas he isn't supposed to be able to get, and trying to hack in Personas you aren't supposed to have access to freezes the game this time.

It's still possible they're placeholders, of course, but it's unlikely to be for crash-prevention reasons.
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>>174006520
That's a summary of the description from the art book, by the way.
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>>174006515

Best bet as a smt main character is to tell all supernatural beings to go fuck themselves in their stupid asses and watch the world end with a stupid smug smile
>>
I'm feel like I'm overlooking something important about the casino.

Is there a 'right way' to get the coins?
>>
How do I fuse Sadama? It's not on the cacalator
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>>174006735
by cheating
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>>174006670
We've been over all of this a million times, you people just can't stop getting heated over fictional characters
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>>174006735
>ROLL THE DICE
>SEE WHERE THEY MAY FALL
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>>174006867
>>174006867
>>174006867
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>>174006670
>Haven't we been over the bad ending 1 cutoff scenes three or four times or so already?
Enlighten me, anon. Why does he have a slasher smile?
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>>174006785
Sudama
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>>174006785
*Sudama
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>>174006602
Play 5 simultaneous games.
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>>174006910
>>174006924
Wow, thanks a bunch guys
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>>174006852
They're still real to me, dammit.
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>>174008083
Wait, when does she say this? Am I being memed right now?
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>>174008258
She says this if you are in a relationship and do her s. link.
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>>174008258
if she is your waifu
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>>174008083
The best.
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>>174006529
If her dates and Valentine is anything to goes by, she fell hardcore for Joker.
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>>174005670
Those lips
I want to kiss them
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english or jap audio? please help me decide
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