/fgog/ - Fate/Grand Order General

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scat thread

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I LOVE NERO!

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>>173970714

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>>173969954
Point taken, I think Alcides might end up becoming the vessel considering he's all jacked up on Grail mud but I wouldn't discard Ayaka just yet considering according to Waver something DID happen with her sister and that something might have been grail related.

Honestly this war is so fucking weird the vessel might end up being the most unexpected party to be honest.

Chapter 1: Faria recalls how he met Edmond and calls him his son.

Chapter 2: October 1837. Concetta narrates that this is the story of the Count of Monte Cristo's other revenge. Angelo Braga calls on Edmond in his home. Haidee warns Edmond that he should not have brought Angelo here, but Edmond tells her to go away, as it is not yet time for the two of them to meet. When Concetta comes to his room to tell him that Angelo has arrived, he's alone. Concetta asks if he was talking to someone, and he says that it was just a phantom.

Chapter 3: Edmond and Angelo talk over dinner. Edmond had apparently been sniffing around the church and Angelo is here for him, and the location of the treasure of Monte Cristo.
Edmond reveals how he was taught by Faria and calls him his second father, and also reveals that this was a trap for Angelo, one of the Three Wise Men who got Faria locked up. The food is poisoned and Angelo has taken a lethal dose. It doesn't work because of his special church training and he attacks Edmond. They fight a bit (Edmond with a pistol) and Edmond can't scratch him, so he has Concetta activate a trap which blows Angelo up along with the mansion; Angelo does barely survive but Edmond finishes him off with a black key.

Chapter 4: October 1837. The count moves to Rome to continue his plot. The target is a cardinal. It's mentioned that Concetta is Giovanni's cousin. They plan to draw the cardinal in with money.

Nasu wrote a new entry on his blog, it's about the Nobu event.

>>173971070
>becoming the vessel
That's assuming there isn't one already and that the nature of the vessel will be important. Mind you, the Lesser Grails outside of Zero and FSN haven't been all that remarkable.

>>173971262

Chapter 5: One of Edmond's informants, one of many he has all over Europe, is killed. The killing was thought to be by bandits or pirates, but Concetta narrates that it "went over the line".
The scene cuts to Tarantella interrogating a man. Tarantella talks about the role of the Eight Sacrament Association he's from: He doesn't expect to find any sacred artifacts in the man's home, but there's someone on the loose who was trained by a heretic who used holy relics for his own gains, and attacked a cardinal, and so he has to do his job here. The man notices blood on Tarantella's hands, and Tarantella says it's his daughter's blood, or was it his wife? Either way he will end up the same.
Concetta narrates that the second set of killings was of a man who started an investment company in Spain, and his wife and 5-year-old daughter. Edmond's group are the only ones who realise that these killings are connected, as the man who was killed was related to Morrel. The killings continue, and some of the corpses are left without a drop of blood.

Chapter 6: Edmond is sure that the killings are the doing of the last of the Three Wise Men and is mad. The killer left behind a message by spelling out a word, letter by letter, with the organs of his victims: Tarantella. Edmond wonders if this is how the church works, or if Tarantella is just crazy, and if this is vengeance for Angelo, or if he's just playing around with people's lives. Either way he's mad, and drinks more of "the elixir". He tells Concetta to prepare, and she narrates that the counterattack began. They started by spreading information that the Count of Monte Cristo would be holding a huge party as bait, and they rent the Villa Medici for this purpose.

(There are 11 chapters FYI)

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LIZ THREAD

>>173971262
>They fight a bit (Edmond with a pistol) and Edmond can't scratch him,
Damn, Angelo confirmed top tier

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>>173971428

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>grinding on F/Extra for the Gawain fight
>need 16k exp, sparse and slow-spawning monsters give 200 exp each
kill me

DW develops root-detection bullshit by themselves or they use SafenyNet thingy?

>>173971309
He also explain a difference in worlds of Tsukihime and Fate. I can only gather from what I see by Google Translate though.

>>173971372
Of course Roa has to be edgy because that's his thing.

>>173971521
>he needs to grind
How bad are you?

>>173971521
>grinding for the gaywain fight
wew lad

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>>173970714

>>173971372
>The killer left behind a message by spelling out a word, letter by letter, with the organs of his victims: Tarantella

I see Roa is still being edgy as fuck

>>173971372
So Concetta is basically his general factotum?

>>173971625
This. I hope someone translates.
http://www.typemoon.org/bbb/diary/

>>173970710
Gotta hide my mud

>>173971358
Maybe the way that Francesca was able to turn the fake grail into a real one was by assigning it a vessel already? Because honestly I don't even remember how they managed that and "just being able to summon saber somehow" doesn't seem like enough to make the change to be honest.

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Tamamo Riyo a qt

>>173971372
Does Roa have a mancrush on the Count? He's sending him a love letter and all.

>>173971625
From what I'm gathering, it specifies that Roa in the Tsukihime verse is counted as one of the Dead Apostle Ancestors by the church because of an "encounter" he had, but in the Fate universes, no such "encounter" happened, presumably because Arc doesn't exist.

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/Jannu/ thread.

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Do you guys have any servant that you grailed out of sheer favoritism that ended up genuinely becoming and it ended up becoming one of your most useful assets?

I grailed Ibaraki to lvl 100 and Fuji-Nee to lvl 90 out of sheer waifufaggotry and so far they've both been two of my most useful servants.

>>173970761
>Honestly this war is so fucking weird the vessel might end up being the most unexpected party to be honest.

>Enkidu was first mentioned being able to become a grail in SF

Even though I think a servant can't become a vessel, as far as I remember

>>173971801
fate and tsukihime confirmed as TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, thus separated for good by the man himself.

He's basically saying that even if everything takes place in the same world (read universe) there are two large system settings. Basically what we already knew.

>>173972060
The encounter that made people consider him a DAA was against Altrouge though

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>>173972081
>grailed Ibaraki

My nigga

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>>173972081
I grailed my waifu and she's almost unstoppable now.

>>173972060
>presumably because Arc doesn't exist
But she is existing in Fate/Exta universe.

>>173972206
How are we gonna get a SSR Arc if they are two different systems

>>173971801
>>173972206
tsukihime collab shitters BTFO forever

>>173971372
Stopping to take a look at Nasu's blog.

Nothing new but some people here clearly need this set straight: There are two sets of worlds. One is the Fate world where servants can be summoned, and the other is the Tsukihime world where there's no way that concepts as strong as heroic spirits could be summoned as independent familiars.

The base of the Fate world "takes the history of man positively" and so heroic spirits are the focus of it. Meanwhile, the base of the Tsukihime "takes the history of man ■■■■■■" and so the dead apostles, or enemy of man, are the main theme.

Roa became a strong dead apostle and one of the 27 through a certain meeting. In the Fate world that meeting never happened, so while he became a dead apostle, he never became strong enough to become one of the 27, and his power is weaker.

"What about Fake"? Fake has both.

>>173972060
Then he probably died here because he will not be relevant in Fate.

>>173971801

Solomon and Princess Arc holding the worlds art when? That'll be a stunning image.

>>173972086
I vaguely remeber Gil mentioning in UBW when Angry Manjew tried to use him right at the end that he wouldn't be able to do to both of them being servants.

If Enkidu somehow ends up becoming the grail tho that'd be great since he'd finally be making himself useful.

>>173972081
Grailed Taiga at NP5 is one of the best Lancers in the game

>>173972206
>He's basically saying that even if everything takes place in the same world
No, he says that too many people assume that they're in the same world, which is why he wants to set this straight.

>>173972283
>"What about Fake"? Fake has both.
There were japs talking that even in Fake itself it was said that there was an actual reason because it's mixed.

>>173972081
I didn't use my grails yet. but if I had to, I'd grail Casko and Summer Tamamo

>>173972269
>>173972262

You can still crossover, dumbass. Shiki isn't from Tsukihime setting (she's from Fate one apparently) and yet she can world hop in Melty Blood. Likewise Sion's spirit is summoned in Extra world. Crossovers happen.

>>173972283
It's such a trivial thing to get hung up on.

>>173971801
It says that Roa in the Monte Cristo story never met Arcueid (Referred to in the blog as never having an "Encounter"), so both his power as a Dead Apostle and his reincarnation technique were inferior.

It also says that Roa was so weak he wasn't even strong enough to be considered for Dead Apostle Ancestor status.

>>173972283
>"What about Fake"? Fake has both.
Cool

>>173972431
Stop replying to bait.

>>173972325
what would happen if living solomon and arc had kids?

>>173972353
Well Enkidu did intend to clear the angry mud even before Richard came, so he probably has some plan

But with Alcides NP, he probably would get kidnapped or something and become angry mud

>>173972225
She's really come trough for me, I've sent her on literally every battle I've had and she's been useful every time, she was my last man standing in the Goetia fight and I owe her my life.

>>173972354
I was able to roll five copies of her during the Babylon gatcha, I swear that gatcha used up all my luck since I kept getting good shit.

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>>173972218
So basically Roa turned into a vampire without Arc's help and never fought Altrouge.

>>173972546
I always like to think about what Servants should have kids together.

>yesterday helenefags got cucked
>herkek got btfo
>now tsukihimefags got btfo
holy shit what a based day

>>173972463
Wait, so Dantes had a hard time defeating an inferior Roa? So does this mean Tohno > Dantes since Tohno defeated Roa even though he was heavily injured? Really makes me think.

>>173972354
she should be, her skillset is broken

>>173972463
>It also says that Roa was so weak he wasn't even strong enough to be considered for Dead Apostle Ancestor status.
Because they don't exist in Fate. We've known this for a while.

Like how the Heroic Spirits cannot be summoned in Tsukihime.

>>173972283
>in Fate world you can summon servant
>in Turkey you can't but there DAA
>in Fate/Strange Fake you can summon servant but DAA also exist even though its supposedly a Fate world so whatever :)

>>173972625
>helenafags got cucked
What?

>>173972283
>"What about Fake"? Fake has both.

Autistic meltdown incoming

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>>173972629
Dantes has just awoken his power and didn't even learn to control it.

And the Roa Shiki faced was a shittier who never used his power because he was in an inferior host. I didn't see him flying around against Shitki, or did you?

>Trying to push Shitki as relevant
Kek.

>>173972725
People consider that Holmes helping a old Helena is cucking.
Just shitpost move on.

>>173972283
>Fake has both
NARITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>173972669
>in Fate/Strange Fake you can summon servant but DAA also exist even though its supposedly a Fate world so whate
He's just allowing Narita to do what he wants because he pull this on him without warning.

Also he's calling that setting "Fake."

>>173972283
To elaborate: He says that SF is a world that has both and thus is neither, "like FGO".

So yeah don't write out that Tsukihime collaboration just yet.

>>173972815
>sexualizing Holmes
shitposting has gone too far

>>173972283
It really make less fun. Well, almost every TM spinoff usually take place in some kind of fucked up alernative universe instead of just one possibility in one big world.
That's why I really like strange fake. SF is really fun because it's take pieces out of all Fate spinoffs and even other TM main works and creating a one big world. And you still can say that this events never happened in F/SN continuation without any bullshit.

>>173972815
>Holmes helping a old Helena
When did this happen? Chaldea Ace?

>>173972878
>"like FGO".
He never brings up FGO. What are you saying? He only talks later about grailing Servants and shit.

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>>173972598
Transformation seem shitty on paper at first but after lvling it to 10 it really fucking effective.Blend well with Mashu too.
All she need now is a NP interlude or maybe some fix on Disengage.

I suck dicks

>>173972960
Yes in helena backstory.

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>>173972283
>something doesn't make sense
>lol it's just an alternate universe :)

Fucking Nasu that's just bad writing

>>173972629
The Roa in the Drama CD had access to all his magecraft so no.

>>173972878
>故にどっちとも言えない「FGOみたいな世界」と言えなくもないのじゃよ
It's kind of the opposite of what he says here, though.

>>173972283
So SF confirmed not canon in Fate entries

>>173972973
>He never brings up FGO.

「おじいちゃん、じゃあ「Fake」は? あの闇鍋はどういう扱いなのかしら! 私気になる!」
「ほほほ。ありゃあ『どっちもアリ』じゃよ、
「どっちもアリ……? 丁半博打をしているのに丁半どっちの要素もあるの? それってつまり、」
「そう。故にどっちとも言えない「FGOみたいな世界」と言えなくもないのじゃよ
>Grampa what about Fake?
>It has both
>Both?
>That's right, it's neither world, SOMETHING LIKE FGO'S WORLD

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>>173972283
Is Narita /ourguy/?

>>173972283
>I am going to explain why Tsukihime and Fate are in different realities
>Also i will tell you how this work has both because fuck you, what the fuck is consistency if i make money?

>>173973065
>The Roa in the Drama CD had access to all his magecraft so no.

>It says that Roa in the Monte Cristo story never met Arcueid (Referred to in the blog as never having an "Encounter"), so both his power as a Dead Apostle and his reincarnation technique were inferior.
>It also says that Roa was so weak he wasn't even strong enough to be considered for Dead Apostle Ancestor status.
Really gets the juices flowing.

>>173972973
Even my google translate skills can tell that you're wrong

>>173973097
>故にどっちとも言えない「FGOみたいな世界」と言えなくもないのじゃよ
>And thus you could say that it's something like FGO's world, which is neither

jesus fucking christ

>>173973130
All is canon. they are just different timelines with setting differences between them.

>>173973135
How is FGO both if Gaia was portrayed so far as a shitter who rely on Heroic Spirit protection? This is going to make Tsukihimefags even madder.

>>173972081
Grailed Assassin Shiki and she's a mainstay in my team ever since the KnK event.

Also I haven't grailed her yet, but Void Shiki has been really useful to me. She's not as bad as people say she is.

>>173972283
>"What about Fake"? Fake has both.
HEROIC SPIRIT NARITA, KING OF HACKS

>>173973045
Alternate universe is perfectly acceptable though

>>173973230
Edmond is from FGO. >>173973135 Nasu's not talking about the Monte Cristo CD drama either there, just about Fate.

Roa in that CD drama is pretty much Melty Blood Roa.

I thought we all already knew that Tsukihime and Fate took place in different timelines?

>>173973237
>And thus you could say that it's something like FGO's world, which is neither
Anti-tsukihimefags BTFO

>>173972660
It's presented as relative anon.
>しかしFate世界ではそもそも『ある出会い』がないため、死徒になりこそすれど『祖のひとり』に数えられるほどの力は持たず、その秘術も劣化したものとなります

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What's the point of making Tsukihime and Fate different when Fake and FGO has both anyway?

Just make it all the same

>>173973257
FGO is neither. Get some reading comprehension.

>>173973230
The Roa in Tsukihime itself was even weaker, that's the point. In the 18th incarnation he never had access to any kind of magecraft, he was basically a hobo with regeneration abiliies and that's it.

>>173973452
universe rules, plotholes and powerlevels, probably

>>173973474
t-then what is it?

>>173973452
FGO has both because needs a collab. That's basically the only difference. The focus is gonna be Heroic Spirits blowing the fuck up everything and Arc will be a Servant to be relevant.

But if Fate settings aren't supposed to have them, Zelretch is gonna get retconned in HF movie.

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>>173973452
This. Absolute nonsense.

>let's make the worlds different and set these rules so people can understand why this happens here and not there
>BUT NEVER MIND LET'S ADD THIS WORLD WHERE EVERYTHING HAPPENS JUST BECAUSE xDDD!!

Fuck Narita for bringing this stupid idea, and fuck Nasu for allowing it.

>>173973492
He still had superhuman physiology and MEoDP, albeit an inferior one.

>>173973230
Did you actually play tsukihime or are you shitposting?

>>173973230
That's a thing with vampires as a whole as explained in Labyrinth. There are no DAAs at all in Fate, all of them are just weaker DAs.

>>173973564
Or Zelretch is just a normal DA and that's it.

>>173973579
I thought Roa's eyes were something else? He though the had MEoDP but in reality what he saw was people's life and not their death.

>>173973552
So no reason then?

>>173973552
But that makes even more plotholes. Why does the SF and FGO universes allow both heroic spirits and DAA to exist while the others don't?

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>>173973554
It is nothing, yet it is everything

>>173973704
Because those timelines developed that way.

>>173973579
He isn't flying around blowing up half of a city and calling out his Melty Blood attacks, anon kun. This is a FGO origin story, and DAA exists there.

There probably won't be Tsukihime, though, as there wasn't FSN, so Arc (in a Servant vessel) will awake to seek Dantes and fall for (you).

>>173973689
If I remember correctly, he could only see the death of living things (humans, plants, animals, etc.) unlike Shiki who could see the death of both living things and non-living things.

The fact that Zelretch can move between worlds makes him kind of weird. I'm still not sure if there's only one of him across the whole multiverse or if there's a new one for each timeline. Could you have a bunch of Zelretchs in the same room?

>>173973230
Roa in Tsukihime has his soul deteriorated anyway and is in one of his weakest hosts yet who also has his fucking life force split with Nanaya

He threw everything away because everything within him was just reduced to wanting to see Arcueid again, that became the sole thing remaining in his soul

>>173973689
He can only see the life forces of living things. He wasn't able to perceive the death of hallway for instance because he wasn't viewing "The ultimate end of things" but just life forces or some shit.

>>173973704
From the begining, allowing multiverse means everything can happen since there is a infinity of different universe.
So we can have a universe with A, another with B and still another with A and B.

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I want to hug my cute gorilla and grope his pecs!

In before it's revealed that he reason FSF has both is because it's the center of the multiverse. Right in between fate and Tsuki world's

That's why all major entities are watching the war.

>>173973784
But I just want my Tohno welfare

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>>173973002
>Transformation seem shitty on paper at first but after lvling it to 10 it really fucking effective.Blend well with Mashu too.
It also blends well with Advance of Strategist Level 10. Every time and enemy hits a crit and it does 0 damage I can't help but have he smugest grin.

I think a NP interlude would be great, I'm not sure what could be done with Disengage becasue it's been really useful to me with bosses with multiple debuffs per turn.

>>173973704
FGO needs fodder for Servants like Dantes to kill and a collab. They exist but nothing is said that they exist in the same manner they do in Strange Fake.

>>173973564
Dead Apostles are still a thing, so he can be just a DA or a very old mage. Oyr you know, he can travel through posibilities so the same as Arc was able to travel to Extra from Tsukihime he can pop up in Fate.

Also Zelretch was already seen in the HF manga so he will be there.

Anyone here up for gushing about waifus?

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>BB coming
>20 quartz left

>>173973579
>>173973689
They are different from MEoDP. Roa just sees the death of 'living' creatures due to having died and reincarnated so often. When Shiki tells him about the death he sees, Roa freaks out about it as he can't comprehend non-living objects still being killable.

>>173973890
>Fate/Strange Fake is the center of the multiverse
If this actually happens I'll fucking kill Nasu and Narita. I'd accept if FGO was the center, but I won't accept F/SF,

>>173973898
Tohno wouldn't exist. Arc will open her legs for Guda. I'm certain with Roa death is gonna be one of those 'changes' that would lead to the collab where she feels and falls for (you).

>>173974025
Wew, that's some hot butthurt

>>173972249
Clearly not anymore.

>>173974032
Normal Ryougi doesn't like you romantically. I don't think that's going to happen.

>>173973564
Zelretch can travel through multiverses, so I don't see why he would be retconned.

>there are people in this thread that don't know that fate is japan's marvel
Embarrassing

>>173973808
>The fact that Zelretch can move between worlds makes him kind of weird.
Arthur can move between worlds too.
Stop making assumptions.

>>173973890
Strange fake is just a spin off.
Nasu called Grand Order is grand story and the core of his work.

>>173972249
>>173974101
In Extra it was said she came from another world so they will explain it that way the same as Ryougi traveling to MB or FGO.

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>>173974025

>>173973980
whats this referencing

>Narita
>Cucks Ishtarfags the fuck out
>Blatantly breaks established rules in the Nasuverse
>Turns Gil's foresight into something totally different
>Wanks everyone the fuck out

>>173971372

Chapter 7 (1/2): Haidee warns Edmond that this is way too dangerous. She wants him to live, and says that Faria would have wanted the same. Edmond says nobody knows what the dead want, and all he's doing is ridding himself of his own sorrows. Haidee wishes she could heal him of his sorrows, but Edmond just tells her to begone, and to wait for him on the other side beyond love and hate.
Tarantella shows up and there's nobody else at the "party" besides him. He recognises the count by his white hair. Tarantella says that Faria turned his back on the church saying that he wanted to save all life. Edmond says that those are the church's teachings, but Tarantella says that's just the church's front, and the truth is different. Edmond says that they're a bunch of heretics, bloodstained murderers who themselves turned their backs on the messiah and the prophets, and activates a trap which fires spears at Tarantella, and then a trap which binds him with chains made to subdue tigers. Tarantella breaks out easily. Edmond shoots him in the forehead and starts laughing but Tarantella gets back up and pulls out the spears.

Why cant you people stop arguing?

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http://www.toranoana.jp/mailorder/article/04/0030/52/69/040030526944.html

>>173974118
"Normal" Ryougi was still from her world. If this is Arc from FGO, then she would be a complete different character. With Roa death, she never meets Shiki.

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>>173973978
Sure. Mine's pretty great.

>>173974194
Are you sure? All I remember is Gatou saying how he saw her while meditating on a mountain top. I do remember Ryougi coming from a different world.

>>173974251
>cucks ishtarfags the fuck out
Explain

>>173973980
Bummer.

>>173973978
I love Jeanne.

>>173974254
Chapter 7 (2/2): Tarantella uses a white light that burns Edmond and defeats him instantly, but doesn't kill him because he still needs to interrogate him. Edmond asks if the church is all monsters, and Tarantella says that not all members have power. The cardinal was a weak human for example, who wasn't even an executor- an inquisitor, who represents the will of god- like Angelo or Tarantella. Edmond is enraged by the claim that they're doing god's work and gets up again, blocking Tarantella's vision with his coat and stabbing him in the heart with a knife. Tarantella says that he's not just an executor, and asks where Faria's treasure is while hitting Edmond with more magecraft. Edmond says that there is no treasure. Tarantella observes that Edmond doesn't fear death, or pain, or damage to his body, thinking that time in the chateau made him strong, and says that he'll have Edmond recall what pain is like by destroying one of his belongings, and leaves.

>>173974251
>established rules in the Nasuverse
My sides are in orbit

>>173974251
>austistic people cant adjust to change

>>173974251
>Narita: Can I do this?
>Nasu: Sure why not
>Fatefags: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>173974291
And I present you, Arcueid from FGO!

>>173974321
Melty Blood has manga has her of another world, yes. She appeared there.

>>173972081
I grailed my husbando to lv. 90 and Medea to 80. I plan to grail Medea to 90 as well.

>>173974332
He's already setting up Ishtar to be paired up with someone by running damage control and trying to explain how F/GO Ishtar is a fake that's influenced by Rin and how his Ishtar is the real thing

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ONI THREAD
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>>173972754

>this means Arc was hopeless to stop Goetia retconning the planet

Wow. Nasu is such a fucking hack.

>>173974382
So is Faria's treasure, Haydee?

>>173974314
woah

>>173974251
If Narita broke rules then Nasu too with FGO so who cares.

>>173974418
You forgot something
>Narita: Can I do this?
>Nasu: Sure why not, I already dismissed your garbage as fanfiction publicly and shit all over you by revealing Ishtar and Edison before you could do it yourself.
Fatefags: REEEEEEEEEEE

>>173974424
i never read tsuckyhime what are her super powers

>>173974382
Missed copying a line, still in chapter 7:

Edmond regrets listening to Ali and Concetta and not using explosives in the traps. Haidee calls out to him and asks her to give him more power. She says he already has it within him.

>>173972081
I grailed Rider Medusa to 90.

>>173974595
Really, the funniest thing is that people here are giant autists taking this shit so much more seriously than the actual writers do.

>>173974534
Yeah, if at least this was just a Fate world, it would mean they weren't shitters during this.

>Type Moon
>consistency
pick one

>>173974627
She never does anything notable in Tsukihime. Aside from kill some of Nero's animals she is basically irrelevant damsel in distress tier because Shiki killing her makes her too weak to contribute anything.
.
Not even joking, she literally doesn't do shit except die once to Shiki and then again to Roa.

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>>173973452
>>173972872
>>173974251
Narita and Nasu discuss this shit all the time, he actively encourages him to go crazy with the setting, if you read the afterword of every volume Narita is constantly shyly going "is that a good idea?" and Nasu is like "Fuck yeah! A cyborg is great fucking idea".

I think the reason why he's allowing the Fake wold to be the way it is is becasue he didn't write Tsukihime with Fate in mind and vice versa so mixing both world would be messy since they've already been established, but F/SF IS written with both in mind so when it meshes them together it comes more naturally because if a few inconsistencies are written he can just fall back on that's how that universe was shaped.

>>173974627
She has a mystic eyes that can seduce men into raping her

>>173974737
This.
TM has never been consistent with it's shit.

>>173974746
>Nasu is like "Fuck yeah! A cyborg is great fucking idea".
i like to believe that saint germain and his time traveling car was a suggestion Narita told Nasu to check wether he was actually listening to him

he wasn't

>>173974741
She btfos Ciel in her own route. That's something I guess?

>>173974770
She wants to experience it.

>>173974534
>>173974726
Just because they exist doesn't mean that DAA get more focus in a Servant collector game about how WONDERFUL human history was which explains human order is strong.

They just exist for some reason Nasu still has to come up with (for his collab).

The name of the game is still FATE/grand order.

>>173974627
The ability to use close wounds using duct tape

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>>173974627
Replace "stars" with "the planet" because of shitty translation.

>>173974862
You are underestimating how chunni Nasu is.

>>173972404
Are you me?

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>mfw both Tsukihime and Fate/stay night are still the most consistent entries in the nasuverse when it comes to lore after all these years

>>173974619
Narita actually waited for the Ishatr reveal in Babylon before working on Volume 4 so that he could get a better idea of how to write her. He mentions it in the new volume. And I'm genuinely starting to wonder if the berserker is actually Edison becasue shit's a hellbeast that the only thing that has in relation with Edison is the lion face.

>>173974987
>Narita waited for waifubait to be established before he cucked everyone
AHAHAHAHA

>>173974896
This. Just because they can potentially exist there, it doesn't mean they are even a focus when the story is already shitting on Gaia making her rely on human protection.

>>173974741
>>173974770

that's disappointing

for some reason i thought she was a vampire or something so maybe she could turn into a bat and bite people

i wasn't into nasu stuff when that shit was new so i have been waiting for the remaster to do it

i also am scared that male shiki is going to just be a more beta version of female(male) shiki from knk

>>173974619
True Berserker is not Edison, that was bait.

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Can it be time for lewding Saints?

>>173974934
Wait, if True Ancestors exist in Fate, then why can't Arc exist in Fate?

>>173974862
>he thinks Nasu would be opposed to the idea of a time traveling hippy
It's like you don't fucking know him.

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>>173974975
hmm...

>>173975072
Don't think - Nasu

>>173974987
>only thing that has in relation with Edison is the lion face.

He can absorb electricity and his NP is similar to Edison's NP so they're not that different.

>Goetia actually btfo everyone and wasn't limited to Servants
Man.

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>>173975072
I don't know, maybe they never needed her because Heroic Spirits dealt with fallen True Ancestors.

>>173975072
She probably was never created or they are weaker overall too as human order is stronger.

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>>173973978
I don't have any Neros yet. That bums me out a little bit. Well, all I can do is wait and hope that CCC has a rate-up on her.

>>173975072
Mooncell has records on all world's. Arc in extra was a traveler.

>>173974643
Chapter 8: Concetta is worried. She and Ali wanted to fight alongside Edmond but he refused, and Ali was sent back to Paris while Concetta waits at the inn. Tarantella shows up at the inn and enters her room. She shoots him in the heart but he heals immediately, so she goes after him with a knife going for the throat, but he doesn't take any damage and kills her.

>>173970639
>Gudako feeling up some man-tiddies

Good gender equality.

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>>173974934
This is a rule to follow in every "officially" translated Fate work because it happens in both EXTRA and EXTELLA.

Everytime you see the word "star", your brain must turn it into "planet" right the fuck away.

>Ishtarfags will be cucked because she is gonna slobber over that Alcides and Gil dick
What is Narita's end game, I thought Ishtar was decently popular due to nasu referring to her as the gacha from hell

>>173975057
Joking aside, She really is powerful though, but jobs through Tsukihime because male Shiki caught her off guard and killed her. True Ancestors like Arcueid are basically vampires but they don't need blood to live, but they still have the desire to drink blood and will recover faster if they drink blood. After dying once and regenerating, Arcueid still refuses to drink human blood so that's why she jobs through most of Tsukihime. Also, male Shiki is alpha as fuck though.

>>173975072
Arc doesn't exist in Fate. She will feature in FGO but I have no idea how when Nasu made them a massive joke.

>>173975057
Arc is a vampire. It's just that the only vampire that I know of in TM that turns into a bat is from Fate.

Male Shiki is a pretty chill person, but he often turns into an absolute nutcase.

>>173975231
puffy vulva

>>173975253
But why would Emiya know about it? If it was CG Emiya it would make sense but in Extra he's just a regularHeroic Spirit.

>>173975285
The istharcuck is just made up stuff, anon.

>>173975314
>Male shiki is alpha as fuck though
He spends 2/3 of the VN in a fucking bed and the other 1/3 is spent roaming city streets looking for Arcueid

There's nothing alpha about him

>>173975198
>wasn't limited to Servants
Did people think that the thing that could rewrite the entire planet, could only hurt servants or effect servants?

Least it's finally confirmed and this can shut the arcfags up who say that she easily solos him like always

>>173975146
He's a mechanical spider with a lion face that can absorb rubble to make itself bigger, feeds on electricity and has a clocking device to hide it's very presence in a perfect way. I'm still calling it BersEdison and I still think it's him but fuck man, that's a hell of a persona shift in between classes, he feels more like an Edison Abomination.

>>173975358
Reality Marble studies?

>>173975316

Arc is still worth around four Servants at 30%. That's almost on par with Gilgamesh. If Nasu gets desperate he can always just make up some bullshit to let her go full power and turn her into a raid boss or some shit.

>>173975387
>He spends 2/3 of the VN in a fucking bed
Exactly
So much fucking going on in that bed

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>>173975260
RIP

>>173975385
>He thinks Narita isn't going to do some ship or romance shit with her
this delusion

>>173974741
Don't forget jobbing to Nrvnqsr

>>173975358
Because he's connected to mooncell, concepts are downloaded. It's like asking how servants know what cars are.

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>>173975231
I'm sure you'll get a Nero eventually.
I rolled her when I gave up hope of getting her. Right as soon as I did she came to me. Now she has NP2. I still don't have a Bride myself though. I hope CCC brings her back. If not I suspect another Nero event.

>>173975396
I don't understand this boogeyman. I'm a "tsukihimefag" and I was under no impression that if Arc lived in the FGO world she had also died.

>>173975437
That was in the past. Now Gaia is a shitter who cannot protect herself without the human order.

>>173975543
I meant to say that I was under no impression that she would have survived.

>>173975585
Gaia was always a shitter who couldn't even kill some monkeys and has to ask help to the other 8 planets.

>>173975585
Isn't that only in the Fate timeline since the human order is strong as shit from some reason

>>173975543
>>173975680
Arcueid is independent from human history she has no reason to die due to Goetia's shit

She's more in line with a force of nature than humanity

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Astolfo is the strongest servant

discuss.

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>>173975396
Tsukifags said that it only applied on Fate worlds, but now FGO has both (even if it's largely biased toward human order and humanity), thus means that Nasu's new boytoy Go-chan was shitting in the status quo.

Hell if Arc appears, she's a collab character rather than someone relevant on the setting.

>>173975529
I haven't even been playing a month, and I'm only on London because I got sidetracked by Meiji Isshin (I just want 400k of both points to NP4 and Lv70 Chacha) so I have lots of quartz to build up to throw into the gaping maw of the Despair Machine.

Also, I'll probably spend money on the anniversary whalegachas.

>>173975728
>turn 49

>>173975728
>3mill
I'm not sure about that but damage porn is my fetish

>>173975703
Da Vinci mentions that shit when they speak of the asteroid bullshit.

>>173975728
he can solo goetia

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I hate to ask a strange fake question here, but how is Francesca able to look not-old when her soul is already over 500 years old?

Look what 500 years did to Zouken's soul.

>>173975260
RIP cute girl.

>>173975703
It applies to FGO which has both DAA and HS too. Although Nasu didn't say the foundation of the FGO world wasn't the acknowledgment of human history. Hell, that was the theme of FGO.

So his 'rules' make no fucking sense.

>>173975947
She is basically a body with a demon world inside.

>>173975813
Thats good to hear. I spent 700 dollars total on trying to get Bride.
Hope your luck is better than mine.

>>173975767
Eh, I wouldn't doubt collab characters yet, given how Nasu's hyping up the CCCollab.

Powerlevels aside, Arc is somewhat important to Gaia itself.

>>173975947
Zouken uses worms as his body and forms himself using them around his soul. Francesca takes over other people's bodies.

>>173975947

Different method that seems to cheat reincarnation Roa style rather than keeping the same soul from refreshing through reincarnation.

>>173975728
Astolfo is my cocksleeve.
Discuss.

>>173975947
Zouken isn't a heroic spirit

>>173975947
She makes new bodies.

>>173975260
Once you get to the part where Roa talks about what Monte Cristo Mythologie is, can you translate the line where he does it?

>>173975703
Did you miss that Moriarty and Baal could blow up the planet in a pseudo-singularity because the human order had cut it off history and weren't watching it while gaia was fucking useless piece of shit without means to protect her orbital ass from a mad mathematician and a butthurt demon god?

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>>173975947
She has some kind of demon inside that may or may not be some kind of Lovecraftian abomination

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>>173970714
Nero, apparently.

>>173976031
My friend blew through $1000 trying to get Ilya and failed. I think he ended up with a ridiculous amount of other golds, though.

Were you there for Bananaguy last Monday? He did 211 rolls (F2P+Tickets iirc) on the Berserker Bait Gacha trying to get Ibaraki and not only failed to get her but didn't get any of the 5* Berserkers.

>>173976060
Nasu has already said he wants to do a collab with Tsukihime R a while back.
>奈須氏:
自社タイトルのほうも少しずつ,いろいろなことを進めているのですが,現時点では残念ながら明確にお話しできることはありません。申し訳ない。ただ,奈須きのこの夢として,FGOが稼働している間に,「月姫R」コラボをせぬワケにはいくまいと。

>4Gamer:
!

>奈須氏:
そのためにも,責任を持ってFGOを良いコンテンツにすることと,自社ラインの「月姫R」をしっかり進めることが,自分自身とTYPE-MOONに課せられた使命だと思っています。だって,僕だって「SSR アルクェイド・ブリュンスタッド」が見たいもの!

>>173975543
I said Arcfag, not Tsukifag. They're a lot like Karnafags in the way. The idea of her not being the strongest is impossible, this loss doesn't count, she was gimped, in her full form she's confirmed apex of universe.

Any time a new big bad fate thing comes into play I see them usually say how Arc could solo it. I saw a guy say that the recent melty blood manga said that princess arc soloed all Beasts off screen, then claimed I just hadn't read it when it called bullshit.

>>173976287
FGO won't be going 20 years from now so that won't ever happen

>le multiverse meme

>>173975947
Zouken's method was a no-go becasue it deteriorated the soul, it's why he got more sadistic and lost sight of his goal as time went on, Franscesca on the other hand was already a sadistic psychopath from the get go so she has nothing to lose, aslo she might or might not be host to a lovecraftian abomination.

>tfw shirou will never be relevant again

>muh multiverse

>>173975947
You do realize Acht is also old, right? Yet looks young

Zouken just chose a shit method

>>173975260
So Ali can talk in Nasuverse ?

So Roa in the drama CD is super weak even compared to how weakened he is normally?

>>173976283
Yeah these rates are awful.
I have a ton of golds myself from stuff like that. I've been saving for some months though. Soon I'll be up to 500 quartz again.

Kinda curious, was the asteroid going to wipe out everything on the planet's surface, or blow up the planet entirely?

Cause the first one is pretty minor for Gaia overall,it has happened a bunch already.

>>173976060
Gaia was already confirmed on relying on humans to protect her ass in part 1.5, and unable to produce as much energy as humans do (and humans are the ones setting up the laws of the universe there). I think, this is my speculation because who knows what Nasu will do, that FGO may be a setting where the planet and humans can coexist or some shit. Human Order doesn't just protect humans but also the Heroic Spirits keep the planet from harm. World leaders seem to be aware of magi and other stuff and are working in unison too. It seems a little different already. History is still a foundation. That was the theme of FGO, after all.
Strange Fake can be an antagonist mishmash.

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>>173976078
But she's still keeping her soul, it doesn't matter the body. Even if she changes bodies, her sould forces the body to change to the imprinted form in her soul.

>>173976094
If she used a Roa-like method, then she would lose her memories like him, be a new Roa/Francesca.

>>173976115
Neither is the alive Francesca.

>>173976161
Mmmh... I feel like Zouken is getting the short end of the stick in this. But even so, shouldn't the monster overtake the personality when her soul decays? Still not buying it to be honest.

>>173976380
It's not the method the one that fucked up Zouken's soul, it's the inherent limitation of human beings in terms of time they can live. Zouken reached a point in life where he couldn't make a younger body because his soul was rotting.

>>173976431
Acht is a homunculus.

>>173976402
His story is kind of over.

>>173976453
No.

>>173976453
Seems to be stronger than in Tsukihime, but weaker than his peak.

>>173976402
>almost 2 years of FGO
>the protagonist of the stupid franchise isn't playable
>Rin, Illya, Kiritsugu, Irisviel, and even Taiga are
true suffering

>>173976481
It was going to blow up the planet. The "total destruction of the planet" or some such.

Baal was really mad.

>>173976512
The thing is I believe Narita is sort of breaking a very concise and established lore aspect: the soul and how it behaves.

>>173976225
Why does Nero lewd pure saintly girls?

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>>173976283
>>173976467
The desire detector of the gatcha is real, the more you want something the less likely you'll get it, the trick is to enter a zen state of "if I don't get it it's aight". It's how I've rolled every single 5* I own.

>>173976453
He is strong enough to be stronger than the degenerated Roa in Tsukihime, but he never got to be super strong like his original incarnation in Tsukihime. DAs as a whole are weaker in Fate because of the Human Order.

>>173976658
Like I said, thats how I rolled my first Nero. Fucking black magic gacha.

>>173976453
He pulled all he did in Melty Blood. And it's FGO story, so he might be a DAA. We'll find out when Nasu writes the collab.

>>173976637
Anon, they strongly imply that Francesca is not even human and just a demon inside a body in a demon world kinda like Nrvnqsr. Soul degeneration probably does not apply to her. She is probably a different existence than the original Prelati at this point.

>>173976512
>>173976637

Just wait until it gets explained. I don't think we know how she does it yet.

So, Tsukihime takes place around the beginning of F/SN, but in another universe? What the fuck Nasu, what's the point then?

>>173976309
I know that the kind of people you're talking exist but I'm also an Arcfag. Think of it like this, the ones of us who aren't cancerous don't go on autistic rants because why would we? I would argue that Arc is up there in terms of powerlevels but I don't see her soloing either of the three Beasts we've seen so far. Even when Primate Murder was introduced all those years ago it was clear that he's not something that she could handle on her own with how he was first described. Just think of them kind of as Melvin.

Dantes, almost always mistaken for a vampire in the novel is hunting vampire.
Is it poetry ?

>>173976590
>the protagonist of the stupid franchise isn't playable
Shirou isn't the protagonist of the franchise, he's the protagonist of one entry of the franchise. And there's EMIYA and Avenger.

>>173976512
>It's not the method the one that fucked up Zouken's soul, it's the inherent limitation of human beings in terms of time they can live. Zouken reached a point in life where he couldn't make a younger body because his soul was rotting.
That's what I meant, Zouken tried to cheat the system and managed to live a long a long ass fucking time but becasue of the limitation of the human soul his soul rotted, Franscesca's soul is probably already rotten, we don't even know if she's fully human yet honestly.

Any tips for the challenge quest?

>>173976637
>>173976896
It was said that Francesca is not even human anymore. Whatever was happening to Zouken is unrelated to her.

>>173976965

Stack damage CEs.

>>173976967
Well at this point she has divinity.

>>173976965
Full damage CE and smash him.

>>173976481
Anti planet attack, complete destruction.
And what Goetia did was going to retcon Gaia and put himself in her place.

Looks like the HS protect humans and the planet. I wonder if the divergence was caused because Solomon became human? That's basically the only big fundamental difference. Roman kept talking about the beautiful planet and not just history.

>>173976853
Tsukihime takes place before F/SN in a different town, but in another universe. It's just probably so Nasu won't have to retcon a lot of things since he probably didn't write Tsukihime with Fate in mind.

>>173977034
Weird, I tried that but they don't work.
Do I need to deal X amount of damage before they kick in?

>>173976658
That might be why I got Tamamo instead of Xuanzang on the Caster gacha. Not that I'm complaining. A rainbow's a fuckin' rainbow. Also, I think I was pretty zen when I singled Okita, but then, if I think I was, I probably wasn't.

>tfw Gudao will get to fuck Archetype Earth because she won't be counted as the same as Shiki's Arcueid

NEITHER TSUKIHIME OR FSN TAKE PLACE IN FGO. But some characters may appear.

Chapter 9 (1): Tarantella finishes sucking Concetta dry just as Edmond arrives. Edmond realises that he's a vampire. Tarantella says that he's not a vampire, and reveals his true name as Mikhael Roa Balldamnjohn.
Faria narrates about dead apostles and Roa, and says that he wasn't able to tell Edmond about this because Roa put a curse on him. Faria also mentions that he left Edmond "the treasure of darkness", he stole from the church, that would one day help Edmond out when he one day faces a non-human enemy that he would lose to- The treasure of Monte Cristo, which has the power to remake a person.
Edmond laughs and says it doesn't matter what Roa is, and that he, and not Roa, represents god's will, and starts burning with black fire. He immediately understands how it works, and how it's a weapon for him to burn his enemies, and quotes the bible saying "vengeance is mine". Roa recognises the black fire as the Monte Cristo Mythology, a legend hidden in the mountain of Christ, the despair of those without god, the flames of hell and the void, power equal to that from the age of mythology, which forces a magic circuit and magic crest into the user.

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>tfw you don't care about anything of the lore and don't even read summaries anymore
I think that I've grown up

>>173977220
>she's brown with white hair and golden eyes because Solomon was the perfect creature

>>173977034
>>173977061
Wait should I use the chacha CE from the shop or is there a different damage CE I don't know about?

>>173977061
>Well at this point she has divinity.
She HAS divinity tho, it's said on Prelati's stats that he has divinity but it ranks on the negatives becasue the deity he shares blood with is a banished deity. Franscesca has old one blood.

>>173977314
where do i subscribe

>>173976402
His story began and ended on FSN anon. A post UBW or HF side story is the best you can hope for, and maybe a servant at some point with an event:
Shirou story being over is one of the few things Nasu seems to actually respect of his own works, it is the reason the redman wasn't on FGO story.

>>173977314
this

>>173977281
>and that he, and not Roa, represents god's will
GODFAGGING confirmed the strongest power?

>>173977314
I hate this feeling. I think in my case though its more of a burned out from Fate.
I still love it though.

>>173977463
Kotomine's story seems to be over too.

>>173977281
>power equal to that from the age of mythology,
What does this even mean? Is Dantes potentially as strong as the Age of Mystery?

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>>173977281
>literally dark flame master

should i post my butt

>>173977365
The one with Hijikata and Okita on it is the one you want, from OP: "Shinsengumi 5*:Quick & Buster cards + 8% Gain 3 stars every turn /raise the ATK of all allies by +50%".

Chacha CE is: "Chacha 5*:+15% Critical Damage +15% Star Generation Starts at 25% NP/Shinsengumi/Oda Pt. Drops +30%"

>>173977621
Yes.

>>173977598
He got buffed to that level yeah.

>>173976590
Waver is one of the few people this franchise could actually call a protagonist.

>>173977621
Fuck off Misora.

>>173977598
He seems to be the potential embodiment of god's wrath.

>>173977281
>Edmond laughs and says it doesn't matter what Roa is, and that he, and not Roa, represents god's will, and starts burning with black fire
Yep, that's the same Dantes I know from the books. It seems he never changes despite having dark flame superpowers from the Age of Mythology.

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>>173977618
DELET

>>173977639
Thanks!

Can someone explain me why FGO has DAA if it has the acknowledgment of human history as the foundation?

>>173977376
Yes, that's exactly what I said.

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>>173977621
Mashu is that you?

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>>173977618
I'm grailing Lobo now.

>>173977842
Does FGO have DAA? I don't think we have seen anyone actively called a DAA yet.

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>>173977842

>>173976402
And there is nothing wrong with that. I kinda want to see a dramatic entrance of him saving the day on FGO because it would be the hypest thing being the guy that represents the beginning this franchise, but at the same time I don't think he should be that relevant in FGO because there is not much more to tell about him.

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I want to impregnate Altera!

>>173977842
At this point we can all agree that FGO is a different universe where everything can happen and anyone can BTFO anyone.

>>173977281
>the reasure of Montechrsito become litteraly the power of the christ mountain.

I'm still not tired of God making the coffee now in fateverse.

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>>173976225

Orion and Artemis are cute!
CUTE!

>>173977928
Nasu just implied FGO has both things in his blog.

GO and Extra are best universes.

>>173977959
Could EMIYA fill that role? He still hasn't taken part in the story.

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>>173977618
I hope you are prepared to receive the judgment of god asshole.

>>173978060
Orion is suffering though. Artemis is a yandere after all.

>>173977281
Chapter 9 (2): Edmond tells him to shut up and blasts him through the hotel's wall. Roa runs, Edmond flies after him, and they fight in the air. Roa uses the moves of multiple reincarnations, including the curses of the seventh and the barriers of the fourth. Edmond just gets madder and calls upon the fire of vengeance to eat his soul and turn to a black flame, breaking the barrier imprisoning him, and he grabs and burns Roa while laughing, declaring that they'll just have to see whose soul is incinerated first. Roa doesn't believe that there's such a thing as a fire that can burn souls, but Edmond says that this fire can. Roa can't heal and Edmond asks him to just try and pretend to be the messiah in front of god again. Roa says "bakana bakana bakana bakana bakana bakanaaaa" and starts to say that he can just reincarnate even if his body is destroyed, but is cut off when Edmond laughs at him and spouts his victory lines from FGO.

>>173977926
damn

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>>173977842
Since when was Nasu in the business of turning down the free money he could make from this?

>>173977983
>anyone Nasu likes can BTFO anyone
Fixed it. Unless you're his waifu or husbando, you'll get the short stick.

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>>173978135
>Artemis will never be literally crazy over you.

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>>173978007

>>173978156
I really want to see this animated. Fuck the Orders.

>FGO is Roman's story
>and apparently everyone's setting
So his story and will are the center of the universe?

>>173977314
I don't care either. I just play GO becaue it's fun and wait for anime adaptations.

>tfw too smart to care about lore

>>173978263
At least she want to make a harem consisting both (You) and Orion still can't fuck her though

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>>173976225
>>173978007
>>173978338
Why is my waifu so perfect?

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>tfw your waifu cucks you in another universe