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Useless team edition

Died to Lawbringer Shove into light/GB mixup: >>173819781

>New V105 patch is out for PC/consoles waiting certification.
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/news-community/152-288027-16/release-notes-for-v105

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed)

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

**ATTENTION CONSOLE BROS**
There is now an official PS4 and XB1 Community!

If you would like to join, search For Honor General (PS4)
For Honor General Official (XB1)

or

Message/add TheSteroid386 (PS4) or metalkid267 (XB1) and we will invite you.
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How replayable is the For Honor campaign? Is it something that won't get boring if you play it over and over? I plan on speedrunning it.
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Why must you do this, OP?
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>>173926528
Rushing it should be bearable, looking for collectibles is boring as all hell though.
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>Ubisoft ruined a great videogame idea
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>>173926683

Does it tell you how long it took you to beat it? Is there a leaderboard?
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Reminder that PK is completely balanced and it's your responsibility to get used to her lightning speed if you want to call yourself a good player.
No need to look at who I play, I'm completely unbiased in this discussion!
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>spawn against opponent
>we are on a bridge
>i play shugoki
>mfw
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>>173926820
Make her lights 50 ms slower maybe?
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>>173926820

oww hoi PKIDF.
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Are ranged feats balanced?
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>>173927142
What do you think?
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>>173926963
Just make the second light not attack faster than the first light. No one else has this gimmick, and it's indefensibly cancerous.
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>>173927142
>>173927338
"Hey man I have a great idea, lets make a game thats about skill in hand to hand combat, and add ranged weapons!"

This is why I play 1v1 and 2v2.
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I just want a character with a Drill as weapon
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>>173926820
Comedy gold but does this really need reposting?
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>>173927481

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so5TlXOkpHI
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>>173927481
Fear itself should never be able to be paired with sharpen blades. And personally I think sharpen blades does way too fucking much damage
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>>173927715
It's hilarious when somebody is damaged by it and a nobushi with an attack boost just one shots them bc passive
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who /fatchink/ here?
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>people messaging me nice things and wanting to party up
>can't respond to their kindness in any way shape or form
>too cloudy for smoke signals
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>>173927961
Have you tried messaging them back?
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>>173927961
too shy, anon?
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>>173927961
You sound precious
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>>173928039
>>173928097
my communications are banned for 2 days cause i called a PK a lil slut dorkmoon.
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>>173927943
Religiously.
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>>173928207
And I thought you were a pussy, It just goes to show
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How do you guys bind your guard mode/target toggle on mouse/keyboard? I'm having a lot of issues fighting multiple people, coming from controller.
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>>173928216
>just fucking accidently demon hugged at a peace nigger
>die becuase of it
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Confirmed for orochies are the scum of the earth along with PKs.
They will always run away from a fight.
They will quit the game before they lose
They will exclusively zone attack if nothing else works.
They will not GG you.
They will spam emote if they won the first round and rage hard when you win the rest of the match.

Seriously, are all orochies 11yo?
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>>173927650
Every thread until PK gets the nerf she needs
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>>173927142
Are any feats balanced?
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>>173928556
>COOL ASSASSINS
>all have uchiha symbol on their fucking back
>will only use the COOL NINJA MOVES even if they aren't working
you tell me
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>>173928556
Some yeah, and I hate them. But mostly for dragging down the image for better Orochi players. Seriously easy to counter that type of player and trash them though.
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>>173928741
Punch Through is pretty balanced.
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>>173928207

XBL, right? I got someone communications banned because I reported him over calling me a scrub camper or some tame shit like that.

Xbox is no place for banter
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>>173928556
I know a orochi who is 23 years old, I know its strange. Every time we talk about 4 Honor he keeps saying the orochi isnt broken, and needs more health. Every couple of days I get a message from him about how he went 11-0 or 14-0 and no one could stop him. I don't understand how he doesnt see that he is broken.
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>>173927142
How else will you break the defensive meta?
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>>173929068
>Orochi
>Broken
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>>173929068
orochi is actually completely balanced, the issue is his zone's indicator is broken. Be he's an assassin, more health would be stupid.
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>>173929120
Was that warden Syria?
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>>173928216
post fat men

>>173928445
>accidentally hug
>hits them
feels good
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>>173929286
D R Y B L O O D
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>>173929068
Orochi isn't broken, people attach way too much personally to these characters, they are just movesets and orochi blatantly isn't anywhere near the top 5
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>>173929168

>orochi is actually completely balanced

>literally ONE usable attack if flicker is fixed, two currently
>moves which are always a bad thing yet come out accidentally on occasion
>mu tables show it to be the weakest char now lb got buffed
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>>173929068
Nobody implied he is broken.
I was only referring to the type of people that play that class.
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>>173929378
Who even are the top 5 after the patch?

Shugoki
PK
Warden

Then who? Valk and Warlord, I guess?
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>>173929286
whose worse? fucking peace niggers or roaches?

there was a 108 roach in my last game, i 1v1ed him, i didn't see him pick up anything, or pop any feat, i popped juggernaut, and he just constantly attacked me until i died, even though i was blocking about half his attackes. he LITERALLY attacked me 20 times without running out of stamina. berzerker is the only non-broken assassin
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What does Valk has going on for her?
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>>173929483

Warden
Shug
Warlord
Valk
Raider

PK is not top 5 at all, on PC at least.
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>>173929676
speed and her semi-vortex.
>>173929624
Roachis are just trash people.
>berzerker
You mean the literal nigger?
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>>173929483
Warlord without a doubt.
Everything valk does ia reactable even on console.
Regardless, she is definitly a solid character.
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>>173929701
>PK is not top 5
>Raider is
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>>173929701
>Raider
>Wasn't even touched in the patch
>Is top 5 after the patch
How does that work?
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>>173929068
Roach is balanced except for his zone indicator glitch. They fix that and he's fine.

And anyone can have great matches. I often go 10-0 as a goddamn Lawbringer
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>>173929624
you
>LITERALLY
weren't blocking them at all, were you?
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>>173929803
>>173929839

Because he was top 6 before and conq is shit now. Raider has always been good. A lot of trashmasters play him which makes you think he is bad.
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>>173929701
>Raider

But not really. Lawguy is strictly better now. Confirm Ad Mortems off of light parries, and impaling riposte for the same effect as Raiders carry if you're in position for an environmental.

The only things Raider does better are exhausted punishes.

You can argue PKs no longer a top seat, but you ca't give her spot to fucking Raider.
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>>173929907
That and he's not guaranteed heavy damage after gb, meaning you have to actually use some skill
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>>173929915

PK was never top 5 on PC.
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>>173929839
I think its because some ppl cant deal with his reactable mixups that they then decide he is top tier char.

That or some streamer got into their head.
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>>173930009
Isn't a zone guaranteed off a heavy parry? And he can still wallbang for a side heavy.
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>>173929907
>>173929915

So, what can Raiders and Lawguys do, then?

I'm not even being facetious, I'd love to play Raider and Lawman, but I can't play them for shit.
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>>173930009
>no guaranteed heavy damage
AoE hits after guard break and it does one and a half bars.
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>>173930038
this
just because a streamer is winning with them doesn't make them viable, streamers just play so much they are bound to get good
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>>173930025
>PK was never top 5 on PC

Oh I see, you're retarded then.

>>173930072
Become a parrygod. Punish light parries with overheads for mad damage, or with charges if they put a ledge behind them.
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>>173929286
>Somebody once told me shugoki is bad and for noobs.
>Parried and rolled him off the cliff every time he tried to contest my point.
He always stood next to the ledge, it was great.
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>>173929701
Peacekeeper is still top 5 because of how safe she is. Followup lights are insane, AoE is still fast as fuck and safe on block, and if a PK knows how to feint or deflect they're practically unbeatable against a lot of the cast.
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>>173930171

>Oh I see, you're retarded then.

Wow excellent argument!

If you think PK on PC was ever top 5, you are just straight up bad at the game. Try blocking the enemy for once.

>>173930192

See above.
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>>173930067
I was talking about gb, and yep, but if they are too close or far from the wall you don't get it, and the fact you have to go for it at all is hindering when there's no wall at hand
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>trying to get some endgame fashion for my orochi
>trying not to be edgy, going for butterfly/moth theme
>look at orochi legendary
Its literally just as bad as raider.
FOR WHAT PURPOSE!?!
So far the only legendary weapon i have liked is the lawbringers
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>>173930076
>one bar is 25 damage
>zone attack is 28
>one and a half bars

???
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>>173930191
That's a cool looking fatman
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>>173929907
>Raider has always been good
What the hell do you mean "Raider has always been good"?! He's slow as fuck and serves only to train noobs how to parry.
>exhaustion punish
Yeah, too bad people can dodge away or counter gb.
His heavy into top light is the only viable move, but once you get past mid tier players its a death sentence since everyone knows that's his only tool. He can feint his zone, but that doesn't do shit against assassins who dodge through it or people that try and parry then cancel the parry, or just gb/light attack him out of it. Raider has zero legitimate offensive tools. At best he can hope to eek out a victory with feinting, but that is a long shot.
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I bet you guys don't know how balanced Warden actually is
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>>173930506
I mean, he's right for the wrong reasons. Warden is at a solid 50/50 WR at all levels of play. That just comes across as OP in a game that also has Berzerker.
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>>173930492

>He's slow as fuck and serves only to train noobs how to parry.

Every character is slow as fuck if you just spam the slow attacks dumbass.
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>>173930506
He's right though.
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>>173930324
all the legendaries are garbage aesthetic, ended up sticking with Ikaruga gear for my roach
raiders looks like a TOY
most of the (nonlegendary) heroic gear looks great though
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>>173929872
of course not, its impossible to block there cancerous light attacks.
if you dont know that, you are clearly a peace nigger main
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>>173930506
>Wardens shoulder can be sidestepped easily
>Please ignore that if you try sidestepping and he GBs you literally cannot counter it
>Guessing game bullshit in a skilled fighting game is 100% okay by me
Literally the only people claiming Warden is balanced are Warden players. I'm gonna fucking cum in my pants when he's finally nerfed and Warden mains scream and bitch about it
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>>173930775
>this_is_bait.jpg

Orochi's only fast light is his top. His side lights are 600ms, which is as slow as shugoki lights.
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how do you put your fucking emblem on your armor? what the fuck nigger.
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>>173930660
What's the 12-21 and the 21+?
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>>173930842
>Guessing game bullshit in a skilled fighting game
Well, how else do you prevent the meta from devolving into a defensive turtle fest where every attempt at attacking gets punished?
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>>173930660
But that chart puts nobushi at the third place from the top, which doesn't reflect tournament play at all, just how well these heroes play overall, at LOW levels where people can't even parry or tech, because that's the level most of the playerbase plays at.
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>>173930886
i am a shugoki, slowest character in teh game nigga. anyone that can switch stance, light, and hit before i can even change stance needs nerfed
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>>173930923
It's only on one piece of armor, and its different for every character. It's just the first option when you look at symbols
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>>173929047
yup.


A PK just thumbs me down after i almost brought back a game where she spammed zone/lights in revenge the whole time.
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>>173930947
Skill tiers. Higher number = more skillful.
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>>173931049
But the stance change penalty is only an extra 100ms on top of the standard 100ms switch speed. That leaves you 400ms to react to side lights, and 300ms to react to top lights.

Why are you lying?
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>>173930886
thanks for reminding me, I nearly responded
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>>173931180
not him but it makes a difference all the same.
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>>173931248
reputation level total
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>>173931128
Is there any way to learn your skill tier?
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>>173930690
I like everything but hilt on that

Currently debating between Mastuoka, Sakomizu and the Sugaruya. Will probably mix and match from other shit though.
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>>173931248
free premium packs.
go on 'scavenge gear' on after selecting a hero, and cash them, I'd wait until the hero you want gear for is rep 3 at least though for heroic gear
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Is it worth going for the Wardens legendary sword set? Got the guard and it looks gaudy as fuck, is the rest of the set as shit?
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>>173931274
It makes a difference, sure, but it only absolutely destroys you if you're getting feinted or flickered. Light spam is more than possible to block.
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>>173931404

http://fhtracker.com/
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>>173930191
Looks like my 108. I love the wood designs on shugo chest plates.

>>173930690
Shugoki legendary looks nice
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shugoki bros, what are the best stats? ive been doing revenge build, but for stuff like head, arms, and weapon head, ive been doing tertiary shit
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>>173930886
Its understandable if he is on console.. doable but you need to be on your best fucking day.
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>>173930990
They've already confirmed they are aware of the turtle meta and are working on finding a solution to it. The solution is absolutely not to devolve the game into a literal guessing game where only the Warden actually gets to do damage for guessing correctly
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>>173931416
Go with the black one, it's the only one you can actually distinguish from the default when using it in combat, without being too ostentatious and looking out of theme (except maybe the blood covered one which isn't in your pic)
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>>173931506
I'd say pump up your defense. You're the closest thing to an actual tank in the game and a cc monster, staying alive is important.
Also execution health regen is useless.
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>>173931889
i like healing, even off executions, and sprint speed seems pretty useless, you are the slowest person in the game, even at max you aren't catching up to anyone.

and block damage?
well, mabye
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>>173930506
You're right, Warden is the epitome of balance. You know what, no! Warden needs a buff to deal with people who can shut down his vortex!
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>>173931274
I use Raider and LB with the same penalty, if you keep right guard out for zones at all times, you CAN flick into top guard and block his only other viable attack (top light). Every other attack is slow enough to block if you're playing well, orochi is also super easy to predict (always switch guard up if dashing toward, or to the direction of a side dash, just hold it out in the direction his sword is pointing on storm rush). You'll be parrying those lights in no time dude, good luck.
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>>173930660
>Dat Kensei vs. Conquerer 29% win ratio

Is it really that hard to fight Conq as Kensei?
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r8 my emblem, m8s

its my first attempt at making pinkie pie's cutie mark
i only had 2 layers to make 3 strings, so i ended up using some bullshit to make them all connected, but i dont like the way it looks.
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>>173931506
Debuff on head to minimize bleed damage. Min revenge duration to pop it as often as possible. Head piece is preference.

Max revive speed on arms, stam regen secondary. preference if you want faster revive or faster stam regen. Nobody cares about block damage.

Attack and defense are needed. Your preference which you prioratize. Stam cost reduction is worthless in comparison to attack or defense.

chest is whatever now that they nerfed sprint speed.
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>>173932173
>having to waste a stat on minimizing bleed damage

[LAUGHS IN WARDEN]
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>>173931013
I think you're look at the chart wrong, mate.
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The worst thig this game has is the excessive dead times between matches you're forced to live on and on, so much wasted time to end up in a frustrating matchup or a disconnect and start over and over again. When people bitch about unbalanced stuff sometimes it's just salt accumulated from not having enough play time and just getting killed without learning anything.

It's too fucking much.
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>>173931636
But gets no equal punish for guessing wrong... thats not right.
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>>173930628
Not PK lmao, not warden, not warlord, not conq, not valk, not even LB with his top light. Raider is the only character who has shit tier lights.
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>>173932173
i run out stamina quite a bit, i want that stamina reduction, but i guess i noticed i was doing a decent amount less damage, so im not sure.
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>>173932136
ponies...
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>>173932302
>bleeds you out in all rounds so you never even get your 2nd feat

Pssh...
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>>173932425
>Raider only has 600ms lights
>Shugoki also has only 600ms lights
>Says Conq doesnt have shit tier lights when Conq also has only 600ms lights

Why do you act like you know things you don't?
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>>173932121
Considering you cant play with his heavy attacks, which are meant to be used to punish a light parry attempt, and cannot punish his bash with a side step(pre patch)... yeah, makes sense.
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>>173932302
>>173932621
>pk dashes halfway across the arena and gaurd breaks you in 0.01 seconds
>gets a free 3 stabs
>just runs away as you lose half your health
BALANCED, FAIR, AND NOT BROKEN AT ALL!!!!!
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>>173931505
Yeah, that one's an exception, it still looks unrealistic, but it's a good design
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>>173932338
Agreed, i love it when the game bugged the timing and ends it prematurely.
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>>173932621
>Getting bled out by anything other than Sharpened Blades and Fear Itself
>Not at least having your second feat before then

It's like you think I'm bad.
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>>173932428
Get max exhaustion recovery if you want, most classes can't punish exhaustion anyway. You absolutely can't skip over attack or defense.
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>>173932804
You're on 4chan, of course you're bad.
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>>173932925
Whats better, attack or defense? Im a warden/kensai main but I havent made it past rep 2 on either of them yet.
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>>173932654
>Shugoki
Never said Shugoki had good lights, but you know what he does have? Fucking hyperarmor, that guarantees at a trade.
>thinks stance change is irrelevant
Look bro, if Raider could stance change as fast as Conq, his lights would be good, but he can't. Does Conq even use lights? The whole discussion on Raider's lights is about them being useful when he has no other decent attacks. Conq has his bash, Shug has his hyper armor.
Did you even read the previous posts or did you just impulsively jump in?
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>>173933282
decent taste
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>>173933282
Says right there, you're playing an easy mode character
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>>173933031
It just depends on if you are hitting guys or if guys are hitting you more. Probably defense to keep yourself alive a bit longer against high rep people.

>>173933282
You need to make up your mind
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>>173933571
>making up your mind
I'm not that good at the game and only play alone against bots
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>>173933282
You'll be so happy once you get Rep 3 man. Gotta stick with a char till then and you get all the amazing gear.
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>>173933878
don't be like >>173933571 and get to rep 14 without trying other heroes, you should consider picking up a new hero after rep 3-4, and stop playing against bots (unless that's just how you like to play) playing against players makes you good
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>>173934079
I disconnect in almost every match I play :(
>>
>Play against a Warden.
>His Lights are somehow superslow
>Able to parry top lights like nothing.
>every other warden I now meet has speed of god and can't even reaction parry them.
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>>173933282
You are like a baby, watch this.
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>>173934251
sorry to hear that
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>>173934371
Nice
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>>173934371
Lol I have a job m8.
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>>173934371

>that emblem

oy vey
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>>173934251
probably a NAT issue.

http://www.gosunoob.com/for-honor/nat-strict-open-networking-setup/
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>>173934345
It was just that warden being extremely predictable. Makes their moves appear slower because you saw them coming before they were thinking about it.
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>>173927481
>The way he just unlocks after grab

Somehow that perfectly shows the "this is bullshit" feeling
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>>173934686
my nat is normally green, its something to do with my computer or something because whenever someone uses certain skills or feats (especially ranged ones) the game freezes and lags, even in singleplayer, but in MP it just disconnects me.
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>>173934371
>Being proud of having nothing else going for him.
Well, I'm on the same boat but still...
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Is warden's vortex the only move that is impossible to counter if you run out of stamina?
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WHEN THE FUCK IS THE NERF HITTING CONSOLE
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>>173935030
Far from it.
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>>173935052
Hopefully fucking soon
>Playing elimination
>It's 4v1
>Enemy Nobushi pops revenge and kills three of us with her zone
We still ended up winning, but goddamn I can't wait for that sweet revenge nerf
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>>173935052
My bet is on monday.
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>>173935052
in a week sadly
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>>173935052
one week
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>>173930842
>This intense autism
Jeez. Not even the Anti-PK/Warlord/Shug people are this bad.
>>
>duel a Raider
>he NEVER does anything other than fish for GBs
>NEVER looks for damage off anything other than a GB

Hero rework when?
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>>173935553
that's how all the shit heroes work
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>>173931449
that my main issue. I was fighting a batshit insane PK just a while ago who threw feints at me of all things.
>>173932045
thanks for the tips.
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>>173935592
Ironically this makes shit heroes the most cancerous to fight against. It's so fucking boring because they just turtle until you get tired, lose focus and let a GB slip through.
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>>173935462
>Wardens shoulder is broken, here's why
>A-AUTISM, I DON'T HAVE TO REFUTE THIS AT ALL, LITERAL GUESSING GAMES IN A SKILLED FIGHTING GAME IS FINE!
Jeez not even the PK/Warlord/Shug apologists are this pathetic
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>>173935142
Could you elaborate? Because without the ability to roll away or do a fast light there is literally no way to counter vortex.
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What guy looks the coolest on high rep? I just got 15k Steel for the first time and I want to make a dude look cool.

On a similar note, how much are the new heros gonna cost? I might just keep the Steel for the Centurion.
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but what does it MEAN?
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When is Warden getting buffed?
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>>173935943
damn that looks sharp.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>173935779
>Not a single word in my post defends Warden, just calls out your autism
>UR A WARDEEEN MAIN REEEEEE
Thanks for proving my point. Everyone knows Warden is as broken as balls and needs a nerf.
>>
>Start up elimination
>Enemy team has a bot in the beginning
>Think it should be an easy fight
>It's a Conq bot
I hate how fucking unbalanced the shield bots are. They always tech every single GB, even ones after parries, and block fucking everything
>>
>Finish a around of elimination
>Orders completed!
>Don't remember any elim orders, go to check
>I finished a Dominion order from that elim match

???
It was a resilience order and last time I played dominion I died like seven times so that's not it.

What the fuck?
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>>173936223
There was nothing at all autistic in my post. I just stated why Warden was unbalanced, and that I'll be very happy when Warden mains start crying when he finally gets a nerf
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>It's a 2v1 Situation.
>Nobu and Zerk vs Law.
>Somehow kill Nobu while a Conqbro comes to assit.
>He just stands there fucking charging his flail.
>I die to Zerk
>Conq is still charging his flail.
>Zerk does sidestep attack and executes conq while he was still charging his flail.
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>>173936547
>Patch makes it so that Conq's windup is actually bugged and has no upper limit to the amount of extra damage it can do from being wound
>Only this guy realizes it and tries to use it to clobber some Berzerker who isn't looking
>Goes wrong
>'lol what a dumbass'

You wouldn't be bitching if he let that baby rip and blew that 'Zerker to the fucking MOON.
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>>173936223
Roach main detected.
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>fighting a valk
>time to play the "I wonder if the game will register my dodge of her sweep this time" game
>my favorite
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>>173935216
>>173935246
where did you hear "a week" from?
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>>173936957
Just dodge into it
I'm not shitting you, that is like a dodge every time for me
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>>173937031
SHE'S A JUMP-ROPE
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>>173936547
There's no fucking explaining the autism honorfags have
>Playing elimination
>I died round one, right now it's 1v4, our friendly Conq versus the rest of them
>Surprisingly their all honorfagging
>Conq manages to execute two of them, almost kills the third but time runs out
>Round two same situation happens
>Enemy Lawbringer decides he doesn't want to risk our Conq almost winning again and ganks
>Enemy Shug doesn't like this and literally oni charges the Lawbringer to the ground over and over again until Conq kills him from all the free heavies
>No one revives him after
Can you imagine how fucking autistic you have to be to throw a tantrum over a teammate not wanting to play by your special rules and essentially team killing them for it?
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>>173935943
Fuck me that's a great looking Lawbo
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>>173937031
Lmao you cant be serious.
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>>173937223
The player does not decide the rules, the team does.
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>>173936996
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-US/news-community/152-288721-16/this-week-in-for-honor-4132017?ncid=2057-4315---1-odsocmed-17-23-20170413_IMG_WEEK-TW-17-19--0417-6----FH_C2W___20170413_IMG_WEEK_ID43674
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>>173937543
holy fuck they are trying their damnest to make this patch hit during the next season.

Everyone and their mom is going to be playing one of two classes so the balancing isn't even going to be worth it.
>>
is the DLC really coming in 2 weeks?
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>>173937767
I really, really, really fucking hope not.
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>>173937871

Nigga what
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>>173936773
That's on him then. The Zerk barely had any health left and a single heavy from any class would've killed him. I myself was only 1 light away from death so yeah I died.
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>>173937915
We're supposed to get DLC heroes after Season 1 ends. The Ninja and Centurion.
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>>173937435
No, mode decides the rules. You don't get to go into 4v4 modes and throw fucking tantrums if people don't want to play by your super special rules, which are boring as shit
>Oh I won my first 1v1, now what?
>Because some fag is throwing a tantrum I have to sit back and watch everyone else fight for two minutes
It's literally no fun allowed
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>>173938126
You also dont get to decide the rules, nor does the actual mode.
The collective majority does.
And what you experienced proved that.
>>
Why didn't anyone tell me Raider was so LEGENDARY?

What the fuck have I been on Warden for 6 Reps for?
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>>173937915
Why the fuck would you want more heros added to a game that already has balance issues, itts only going to make things worse.
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>>173938389
Actually the match crashed because several people rage quit over their bullshit, so I guess the individual players did decide the rules, not the majority.
Also I report every single honor fag for griefing. If you refuse to help or revive teammates you're literally griefing
>>
I'm sure it's been beat to hell but the connection issues are fucking bullshit. 4 out of 5 games disconnects or fucks up. Everytime I get close to finishing my orders it drops the connection.

We should start a class action lawsuit for this shit.
>>
>>173938389
The collective majority laughs at honorfags though.
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>>173938536

Who gives a shit

the new heroes look cool
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>>173934371
How do I make them emblem?
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>>173938697
Lol look cool? The only one that looks cool is the centurion and everyone knows that the Romans were butt fuckers. Nah senpai I like the OG roster.
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>>173938536
the big thing with r6 siege is that they make massive sweeping changes whenever a new season starts. And I'm betting they're going to do that with this game as well.
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>>173938917

please alot of the alpha players have been craving new shit for a while
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Okay.
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>>173938937
Thats fair actually.
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>>173939049
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>>173939049
>>173939089
You should never be thrown into in progress games
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>>173939159
So I should just leave if one person leaves before me? Because bots are useless and if no one replaces them then the game is lost.
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Why does my zone attack not work half the time if I'm getting ganged up on? Works fine in 1v1s.
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>>173939138

>that webm

Top kek, nicely done
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>>173939345
I have a bunch of these because its ubisoft.
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>Patch was released a week ago
>was only sent to M$ sony this week
>No patch until next maybe week.

christ
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>>173939505

Maybe they are saving it for a large DLC patch?
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WHERE
IS
MY
ROMAN
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>>173939259
If my team has two bots I'm gone. SOMETIMES with one you can pull off a win, once you have two there's no hope.
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>>173939743

If your name is spicymeatball, ive seen you before.
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>>173939461
but can your WebM King Crimson?!
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>>173939743
>cunt
>play with honor its a duel
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>>173939729
There are rumors that there's going to be a break period between seasons, so we might not get them for an extra week or two
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>>173939905

FUCK
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Oh, i found the second part to the webm. I thought there was one.
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>>173939905
>>
I just had 3 25 minute duels
emote spamming is a dangerous thing
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>>173939905
The off-season week is when Season Pass owners get them, dummy.
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I hope they really fix connection issue.
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>>173940108
You're giving Ubisoft far too much credit.
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>>173940157
>Tfw have to be careful about emote spam because it could trigger some autismo into quitting, which may or may not crash the game
If they don't fix the connections this game is as good as dead. Even grouped up with my friends they get annoyed and want to play something else because of how often games crash, or drop just one of us
>>
I BOUGHT A SEASON PASS SO WHERE THE FUCK IS MY ROMAN, UBISOFT?
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>>173940287
>>173940182

I have never seen a game that has everything but gets this fucked over one fucking decision
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>>173940321
PRAISE TO CAESAR IM GETTING A BIT MIFFED I MAY HAVE TO TAKE OUT MY FRUSTRATIONS ON A RANDOM BARBAR PASSERBY
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I can't even get excited for the patch anymore, they took too damn long and parts of it don't even work properly.

I even hit 30 on Law
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>>173940539
Peer 2 peer in 4v4 modes was just a fucking mistake. All it takes is someone to have a shitty connection, and they lag around nonstop literally unkillable because you see them as teleporting around you.
I'm also convinced people lag switch because sometimes the roll backs are just too fucking convenient
>Playing brawl
>Tie breaker round
>I'm paired against the better player
>We're both one hit from dead
>His teammate finishes off my teammate and is coming
>I can still pull this off though
>My opponent backs off to regen stamina
>Suddenly lag
>When the game readies again I'm already being hit with no chance to stop it even though last I saw he backed out of range
>Immediately quit
>Guy who killed me instantly sends me hatemail, and denies that the lag was in his favor
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>>173940970

lawfags are the biggest complainers
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>>173940729
THESE UBISOFT FELLOWS ARE AS TRUSTWORTHY AS A CARTHAGINIAN IT SEEMS. WE MAY HAVE TO UNLEASH LEGIO VII UPON THESE HEATHENS BEFORE THE WEEK IS DONE.
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>>173941067
Hey its that one guy again.

Why wouldn't i complain about a late broken patch?
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>>173941138
AND THEY'RE KEEPING THE ROMAN FROM US FROM ANOTHER WEEK
I WILL DENY THEM MY DENARII AND SEND THEM INSTEAD THE LOYAL X LEGION
AVE
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>>173941067
>Laws buff literally isn't working as intended
>Point this out
>SHUT UP ALREADY
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>>173938806
to make the star you just use two triangles and a hexagon
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>>173939830
I tried
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>All high level Conq play revolves around spamming shield bash because it's a safe move that cannot be punished
>Ubisoft: "This has to be fixed, he shouldn't have such a safe move, now if you dodge you can hit or GB him"
>All high level Warden play revolves around spamming vortex, because it's a safe move that cannot be punished, you can actually cancel and punish people for trying to counter you
>Ubisoft: "Nothing wrong with this, please tune into the next stream where we continue to never mention Warden nerfs"
Gee I sure wonder which character the devs main
>>
How do i warden in 4v4s. He seems kind of boring but i like his response time.
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>>173935904
I think what he meant was there are a lot of attacks that are unavoidable if you're exhausted
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>>173942085
spam full charge shoulder bash.
>>
I think with my age im losing my edge. My reaction speed is trash, then again it could by the medication i'm on for my wisdom teeth. IDK, anyone else just... slow? Trash? I used to be so good at reaction games but now I just die alot to simple shit. Anyone have any tips or pointers to help me get my edge back?
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>>173935930
Lawbringer probably, he's the only one who can pull off black iron
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>>173935930
We don't know how much they'll cost. But if they're following Siege's style probably a lot. Keep the steel
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>>173941531
I can kinda see it, good job anon
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>>173935779
Does Shugoki even have apologists. I think everyone who plays him knows the Oni rush is a brutal exploit that has to go.
>>
>Play elimination as Lawbringer
>Literally end up best in the game, 10-1, better score than anyone on either team
>Get hatemail saying I'm trash because I ganked and ledged
I could maybe understand being upset over getting ledged, but why the fuck are people complaining about getting ganked IN FUCKING 4V4 MODES?
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>>173942085
For that matter how to i conq? He seems to do shit damage and his charged heavy is easily avoidable.

Bashing people just gives them revenge.
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>>173943132
There's always someone who will claim it's fair, especially against assassins
>>
>tfw losing multiple mirror matches in a row because you're warming up

i feel so EMBARASSED right now, they weren't even good
>>
Why is warlord a better everything?
>>
>Load into a game
>Enemy Shug is doing nothing but his 50/50 exploit and turtling when you don't let him
>Quit
Why do people do this shit? Is it even fun abusing broken mechanics over and over?
>>
>3/0 a Warden as Warden
>Get him again
>Go Berserker
>Win a round like it's the easiest thing in the world
>Suddenly whenever he gets to one bar he stops playing the game
>Just turtles and blocks
>No way to get through
>He gets revenge and go on the offensive
>Every round
>Lose 3/1
>He starts the shit flinging
>Apparently he's better than me even though I beat him with his main and he had to pull out the true cancerstrats

Oh
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>>173944709
Duels and brawls are cancer because people will do anything to defend their epeen.
You can literally never rematch someone without them switching to their main and cheesing as hard as they can.
>Playing duels, get matched against a Raider
>He seems fairly chill, I'm beating him consistently, but he's wanting a rematch and isn't doing maximum cheese, so play him again
>As we progress he slowly starts getting some kills in, not winning the whole duel, but taking some rounds
>He has a win already in the duel we're in, and he ledges me
>Claims it was an accident
>Next round ledge him back saying now we're even
>Suddenly he's doing nothing but camping ledges and turtling, trying to throw me off for the win
>Beat him again and leave
It was nice too, then he decided to try to be a faggot for a cheap win. I don't even mind ledging, it's just so fucking gay when people claim it was an "accident"
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>turtle meta so firmly entrenched that it's impossible to make good new webms
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>>173945738
Your the one who sounds like a faggot for "getting even"
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>>173946367
Why? If my opponent uses ledges I'll use them too. I'm not gonna handicap myself
>>
>it's an "AI cheats and rips through your guard or stumbles you extremely far back into a wall or ledge" episode
love this meme, it's especially enjoyable when they fucking teleport too.
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>>173946479
No its the fact that you made it a point, they whole "Now we are even" It would have triggered some kind of response out of me for sure, I would try to ledge you the rest of the game as well, but i also have the mind of a child.
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>>173946574
brb crying
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>>173946639
I said "now we're even" to let him know I wouldn't ledge beyond that unless he tried ledging again.
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>>173946729
Well that was gay.
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>>173946574
Shit Wrong WebM. >>173946729
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>>173946574
Fucking teleporting in this game is so fucking annoying
>Playing elimination
>Fighting a Roach
>Entire game has been perfect connection
>Start fighting this Roach, suddenly things are getting laggy
>He's hitting me with no indicators, and teleporting to me when he's too far for a hit
>Spams good game when he wins
I don't care if it makes me sound salty, I fully believe some people are using lag switches
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>>173946574
I've seen bots spawn with armor. Like the whole fucking team at the same time.
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>>173942340
Do meth. Lots and lots of meth
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>>173947483
Nice.
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>>173934371
Lol how's it going DeusVulthalla
>I told you you could make the star of David solid.
>>
>Start Dominion.
>Enemy team is literally 2 Wardens,
1 Conq and PK all at 108 Gearscore.
>Match Starts and two team mates leave.
>Other guy leaves within 20 seconds.
>Well, I guess I have nothing to lose and quits to world map as well.
>>
Defense Meta is legit cancer. How do I open up people as Kensei. This one fucking Lawbringer did absolutely nothing but blocked everything and teched everything. Didn't react to feints, but why should he, he gets a shitty shove off a block. He knew if he shove from neutral he'd get gb fucked. We just stared at each other for 15 seconds then a warlord came and I got revenge then I died.
>>
>>173933282
i bought the DAUBENY wings but i didn't realise they didn't change colour

i feel SCAMMED right now
>>
wait, where did my "knight defence" and "knight attackers" colour schemes go? they've vanished completely
>>
>>173948435
meh, ill be bronze for a bit I guess.
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>>173948330
>Game lived long enough to see people complaining about Lawbringer
This is truly magic
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>>173948936
not them, but his shove guaranteeing a light bug is stupid
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>>173941253
AS WILL I. AVE, PRAISE TO CAESAR.
>>
>>173948971
>shove guaranteeing a light bug
>bug
nigga not only does it not even confirm a toplight if you react at all but it's working as intended
>>
NON NOBIS DOMINE
>>
>>173949053
if your guard is topside then it'll hit anyway
>>
>>173948979
Fuck you. I just want to play as my Centurion until Ubisoft either nerfs Warden (in 5 years) so I can play him without salty autismos having a meltdown at me or they buff all the other characters (when Half-Life 3 releases) so then everyone is fair and balanced.
>>
>>173948936
I am not complaining about LB in specifc just the nature of game. I don't give a shit if it were lb pk shugo or warden.

You know what I'm now in Warden camp of everyone needs a bash like move.
>>
I cant be the only one who thinks the LB shove giving a light attack for free is dumb considering how easy it is to spam and land.
>>
>Game Works fine in Closed and Open
>Pay 100$ for a Game.
>Somehow release state is even worse in terms of network connection.
>Matchmaking is almost nonexistant with one side always have 3 gold Gear people while other has blue at max.
>One team will always be group of people partnering up with atleast 3-4 guys and destroying everyone with co-ordination while other has bunch of brain dead retards who only spam heavy attack.
>>
>>173949115
can confirm this is false, day of the patch I was playing the nu-lawbringer against a nobu and several shove-into-toplights were blocked
too late for me to get a webm proving it but check back tomorrow and I'll make one
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>>173949551
You should be able to dodge and guard break the shove no?

>>173949579
I'm just sick and tired of shit like this and always carrying people.
>>
>>173949660
it's not guaranteed then, just inconsistent

shit happens to me all the time
>>
>it's another "Raider is the worst character in the game" player
>>
>>173949689
I dont think so. The Shove isnt like the Conq or the Warden.
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>>173949735
if a lawbringer does a light attack in the guard direction the shoved player was in before getting shoved, the light will land. if he attacks in the other 2 locations then the shoved player can block it. Assassins can always block it. You can also always dodge it. at least that's my understanding of shove now. Btw its a bug, the light is supposed to be guaranteed and always dodgeable.
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>>173948971
>>173949053
>>173949115
>>173949551
>>173949660

Dunno if it's possible to parry, but I can definitely block light after shove every time as nobushi. If I try to parry it or dodge the light it has always connected
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>>173950189
Its a bug that it isnt going through, Should be hot fixed. You are supposed to always get hit by it.
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>>173950441
Well if that's the case I hope they make shove dodgeable and punishable like all the other bullshit bash heroes
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>>173950545
me too.
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>>173950545
We should be able to GB him if he misses shove like longarm.
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>>173949579
Could be worse
>Game works perfectly fine in the closed and open beta
>Really love the game, pay $113 for the collectors edition with the statue of the helmets
>One of the statues arrives with a piece broken off
>Contact customer support, they ask for photos
>Provide them
>Tell me that their processing my request and I need to wait for them to contact me
>A whole month goes by without them contacting me
>Contact them myself asking what the fuck is taking so long
>They finally give me the info needed for a replacement
>Try telling me that I need to pay a $20 replacement fee
>Tell them I'm not paying shit because it arrived broken
>"O-oh looks like it's under warranty, you don't have to pay after all"
>They just want me to mail back my broken piece as proof, and my invoice from the order
>Mail that to them
>Tracking number tells me they've had it for over a week
>Have to message them on my own for confirmation they even have it
>They've finally sent out a replacement, still waiting on it
I'm never ordering from the ubistore ever again, this is easily the worst customer service I've ever had
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>>173949689
>I'm just sick and tired of shit like this and always carrying people.
I'm a Lawbringer on console regularly carrying elimination games with like 12 kills. This shit just gets tiring after a while. Especially when we lost because I can't handle a 1v3 all the time
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>>173950996
Jesus that shits so gay, I refuse to mail anything back to the manufacturer, I shouldnt have to pay or wait, im the customer now fix what you broke and give it to me, pictures should be enough,
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>>173951168
Tell me about it. Seriously fuck the matchmaking. If they ever add in ranked, I don't think I'd go above Bronze because of shit like this.
Not Elim, but yeah. They really should make people watch, "How to Play Hero Videos" and Advanced Practice whenever someone clicks on a new character.
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>>173951452
Your team seemed to try at least, the top two players on their team have horrible connections and one of them was Valk camping an objective.
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>>173947661
>trump's hair coif
amazing
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>>173951217
I only agreed to mail it back because it's a small piece and the shipping cost me $2. It's already been so fucking long I just wanted the goddamn replacement.
Also I'm curious if they're sending me an entire statue set, or just the head of the statue that arrived broken
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>>173935943
>>173937270
>>173936030
The white squares are bugged textures
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>>173951452
Could have been worse, I usually have teammates who contribute NOTHING with zero kills, only feeding the enemies feat gain
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>>173951678
kek
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>>173951626
Cost me money or not, im not mailing shit back. Thats my time they are wasting, if they made a solid product there wouldnt be a issue,
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So does raider have the furthest throw distance, but only forward, even when compared to warlord, or is warlord better at manhandling you across the map.
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Well this is new. Somehow got matched against chinese most likely.

Why can't we change matchmaking settings ourself again? Player Skill Level and Region? I'd rather wait 5 minutes than this.
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>
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>turn off chat
>enjoyment up by 20%

This is great
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>>173953454
>turn off chat
>can't talk shit
Well my enjoyment percentage just went down by about half.
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>>173948936
Lawbringer is an absolute shitter character now. I'm not playing him until he's nerfed so he's actually fun again.
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>>173950545

The way they intended it and the way it will be patched is that Shove -> Light is not supposed to be blockable but dodgeable. So you can avoid it but LB will go full 50/50 cancer from now on. So he does shove and either does light or GBs you.
Not much of a problem with Shove out of neutral but they can do a fast Shove after blocking any of your attacks as well.
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>>173954020
>wanting a law nerf
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>>173954473
Yes, as a Lawbringer main I want a Lawbringer nerf.
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>>173954020
>So afraid of losing with a decent character that he goes out of his way to stop playing his shit character because it got buffed
LB mains are fucking pathetic.
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>>173954493
Same. The only thing he needed was Hyper Armor on heavies because muh secret armor of the order.
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>>173954493
why?
you can still play him like you could pre-patch
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>>173954527
It's not that at all, he got buffed to be a completely different character. He just plays like another shitter mixup character now.
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>>173954608
>hyper armor on Lawbringer
Fuck no, that shit is cancer on Warlord and Lawbringer doesn't need it.

>>173954770
>you can play him like you could pre-patch
I know but it just doesn't feel the same. There's no weight to him anymore because all of his chains are way too fast. Instead of buffing him around the way he was designed they just buffed him to have things other good characters have.
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>>173939159
you use to be able to turn off join in progress then they removed it
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>>173954886
>doesn't feel the same
sounds like you are upset about the fact that your character isn't the worse in the game so winning doesn't feel as good as you don't have a handicap
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>>173954893
Because literally everyone turned it off
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>>173955056
because literally everyone didnt want to join a game in progress.

the game can get fucked for putting me in a game where the enemy is in the lead by 700 points, no shit im quitting that bullshit.
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>>173955131
I agree I want it back, but they won't let us have it because then rage quitters further fuck over games by leaving a perma bot slot
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>>173955013
That's partially it. I gravitate towards worse characters with interesting designs in most fighting games.
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>>173955707
Because you are afraid of being responsible for losing, like all Dan mains
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>playing brawls
>teammate is a rep 20 Warden that does nothing but shoulder bash
>let them gank him for shits since he plays like a cunt
>save one of them from getting tossed into the spikes one round by running in the way
>we're all having a blast but this no fun allowed Warden is being a cunt about it
>"yeah, you're fucking done dude. I'm messaging iskys as soon as this game is over and his mod friend is gonna ban you"
>"enjoy your 3-day timeout fag"
>we just shit on him even more
>"yeah, I'll make sure it's perma now. fucking scrub"
Why are Warden players unironically the worst
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>>173955889
>playing Shit Fighter 4
LOL
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>>173955891
Well, I don't degenerate to that level of assholery, but my go-to Warden tactic is test the vortex, and if they don't know how to get out of it, ruin their lives with it.
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>>173955962
>Playing For Shit 1
LOL
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>>173955891
Yeah he was a cunt, but so are you. Actively making your teammate die/lose because you don't like his playstyle? You literally threw a tantrum
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>>173956264
I'd say that half of the fun in online games are the experiences that are shaped from them. From our point of view it was people having some fun while doing a daily at 4am. He took it personally and went out of his way to threaten us for being mean to him. I thought me diving in front of one of them to take the spikes would make him laugh, but it only made him even more irate.

Also, I held no spite towards him or anything. He was just a super tryhard Warden and I wanted to fuck with him. I was hoping he would come up with some interesting bantz, but he just said he was going to tell mom instead.
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As a valkyrie, what are my confirms?
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>>173956434
Being an annoying piece of shit
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>>173948514
They STILL haven't fucking fixed the broken colors, what the fuck. GIMME BACK MY NEUTRAL STORM, YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS.
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>>173956434
400ms lights
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>>173956532
Is there some sort of spreadsheet where I can see these kind of stats for all heroes?
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>>173956532
they are 500ms
stop spreading misinformation
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>>173956434
only confirms you have are top heavy after a sweep or gb
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>>173956692
what can i do after a parry? just a GB?
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>>173956746
>>173956692
my brain got hardwired to parry everything after playing LB alot i dont know what to do
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>>173956746
gb after a heavy parry, remember valk has kensei-like dash gb dunno if it is enough vs nobushis sidewinders tho, otherwise a light attack
after a light parry you can get any heavy
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>>173956603
not complete. every attack is in 100ms increments for some odd reason.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=1037667970
Also a video that I can't find right now has the times for the unblockable bashes.
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>Weekly content is just shit that is already installed from release
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>>173956603
>>173956838
Found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPF_QafJ4jY

Warlord Headbutt: 500ms
Conq Shield Bash: 500ms
LB Shove: 700ms
LB Longarm: 1000ms
Nobushi Kick: 800ms
Valk Shield Bash: 600ms
Warden Shoulder Charge: 800ms
Goki Hug: 1200ms
Valk Sweep: 600ms
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>>173956412
Still though, it's pretty understandable to be upset with a teammate who's intentionally fucking you over, for whatever reason.
Shit I'd be mad if someone ruined my kill thinking it was funny. I already have faggots interrupting my final heavy that would have gotten an execution because they run over and spam a light attack, hitting me trying to steal the kill
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>>173957114
I knew he would be upset, anybody would be in that situation. But instead of just indulging in the shit talk like the rest of us he went straight to intimidation over the internet like a big boy.
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>>173957178
I'm not defending his reaction, he pulled a literal "My dad is Mr.Nintendo and will ban your xbox account"
But you're still a cunt for intentionally fucking over your team.
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>>173957383
At least I'm admitting to being a dickhead instead of being all moral about a video game.
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>>173957489
This. There's two types of "That Kid"s. There's the ones that are kind of a dick but mean no harm by it, and then there are the ones that are a dick purely because they can be.
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>>173956623
>500 MS

AHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAH
if they was 500ms i would parry them just fine
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>>173946753
The proper course of action was to forget about it and not try to ledge him to get "even". Why would you even need to? You were beating him consistently; a single ledge kill wouldn't have lost the game for you. Were you just trying to keep your win ratio up? Stroking your own e-peen?
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How should I be playing Lawman after his buff? Same way as before?
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>>173958009
but they are 500ms
only attacks in the game that are 400ms are PKs zone and wardens sprint attack

git gud
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>>173958071
>Not ledging someone back who obviously ledged you intentionally and tried playing it off as an accident
I wouldn't have minded if he didn't try acting like it wasn't intentional
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>>173945738
>>173946367
>>173946479
>>173946639
>>173946753
>>173958071
>not ledging someone for making a mistake
why?
honorfags are the worst
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>>173958269
Pks second light is also 400 ms
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>>173958449
I have no problem with ledging or getting ledged, but the guy asked for a fight without cheesing, so I went with it. Of course when he """""accidentally""""" ledged me I ledged him back
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>>173958501
that too
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zones shouldn't do damage and push back people like a stagger

also
>loading screen. river fort.
>rep 17 108 warden says "lol gg ez game gonna be easy fights"
>reply "stop playing easy classes then"
>a short while later
>fighting the rep 17 warden as rep 1 zerk at A cap
>both low health, 25hp no way to heal
>he run off to use his heal feat 4 times, basicly killed him for times over by now
>use the shittiest tactic to kill me i've ever seen, sprint side attack that comes out really fast
>call him out on his heals&cheese, he reply "you salty"
>respawn, kill him right after since he had no heals to heal with
>MFW as his body sits there not respawning, can taste the salt in the air
>we won, "reply GG ez fights"
>calls me a noob

best game i've had in a while lads
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>>173958558
Why not just beat him and leave?
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>>173958676
So what the fuck would be the point of zone if they did jack shit?
I understand that some of them are pants on head retarded frustrating, but you gotta come up with something.
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>>173958449
cause having insta win button is not fun
i want to have a good fight
no attack or move in the game should do 100% hp
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>>173958676
>whack someone with a sword
>does no damage
yeah makes total sense
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>>173958684
I did. The game he "accidentally" ledged me was our last one.
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God i just want to feel fem raider's thick girlcock slide song my tongue, past my tonsils and poke the back of my throat. I want her to grab my head and ram her pelvis into my nose, fucking my throat like a slutty pussy, making me.gag on her fat Fuck stick. I pound on get thigh to get her to stop, letting me breathe. Her cock slides from my mouth with strands of a.mixure of saliva and precum attaching my tongue to her beautiful bright pink cock head. I.cough as she circles around me, she puts me on my knees, bent over. I try to look back.but she pushes my head down and spreads mybass cheeks. I feel her cold spit hit the entrance to my rosebud. Then I feel her hot dick press against my backdoor. She grabs my feminine boy.butt and grips.hard as the slick head grinding into my boipucci.

is that gay?
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>>173958768
>point of zone
well the point of zone should be giving breathing room in a gank scenario

letting it do damage to stamina would be a good idea ontop of the stumble effect
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>>173958909
yes
not a problem tho
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>>173930324

all legendary gear is WoW-tier ugly shite

I have a literal joke build that has all the corniest looking gear that i only use to annoy people and thats the only time i use legendaries, ornaments or taunt/execution effects
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>>173930324
They tried to make legendary gear so flashy it just look like stereotypical street nigga bling.
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>>173959219
they all look like fake chinese gold
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>any shugoki over rep 1
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>>173958768

conq has the perfect zone attack

>shit damage
>reasonable stamina cost
>average speed
>pushes back on hit or block
>has full guard during animation

it has some utility in 1v1 vs classes with a short GB range to push them off you, but cant be spammed to any good effect. its perfect and should be what all zone attacks are designed with in mind
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did people stop hating warden yet?
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>>173959438
>has full guard during animation
w-what
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>Playing elimination as a Lawbringer
>Carry the living shit out of my team
>Win the final round in a 1v3, manage to not let them revenge once
>Went 12-0
>Instantly get two messages
>Expect salt
>It's people from both teams telling me I did good
I'm so used to saltmail I don't know how to feel
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>>173959492
Did his shoulder get fixed yet? The answer to both questions is no
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>>173930191
>Somebody once told me
Why did I start reading this to the tune of All-Star expecting this to be a joke post about Shregoki?
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>>173959590
fixed how?
and why?
it's perfectly balanced
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>>173959682
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>>173959510

if you let the full animation play he has full guard during the second swing

you can cancel after the first swing to guard crush enemies, vs warden for example its useful to do bash->light->zone cancel and the zone attack part 1 will knock the warden back to allow you to set up more offense/outspace a bash attempt from the warden. costs a fair amount of stamina to do, and the zone attack can be blocked but itll push the warden away

vs classes like kensei with great side step and side step attacks, you can do the full zone attack when the kensei side steps and youll either hit him or have your full guard up when he goes to attack

any stage of the zone attack does at most 15 damage and doesnt combo into anything. its perfectly balanced
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>>173959682
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>>173959682
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>>173959704
>>173959510

my bad, it doesnt guard crush, i forgot what that means in this game

it isnt a guard crush like warden's top light, its that it hits guards with the impact of a heavy. so if you play a no shield character like warden and block conq's zone attack it'll send you reeling as if it were a heavy
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>>173959682
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>>173959742
>>173959793
>>173959941

how is this bait?
i am generally curious why is it cancer?
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>>173959682
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>>173959682
I agree. Perfect balance. 50/50 right?
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>It's ANOTHER our bot contributes fucking nothing while the enemies have a Shugoki bot that blocks everything, techs every GB, and has the feat to never get knocked down episode
Seriously, why the fuck are bots not all equally skilled? I'm fucking sick of my bots being absolute ledge bait, and the enemies having input reading bots that cannot be fucking killed
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>>173960368
>Enemy team has a lawbringer bot that shove left and right like we're fucking pancakes
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>>173960368
>It's another 4v4 player thinks his opinion matters episode
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>>173934371
>>173934575
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>Playing elimination as Lawbringer
>Tie breaker round, finish off my guy and grab an attack buff on a bridge
>Below the bridge ahead of me my teammate is fighting someone, looks like they're slowly losing
>Toss a grenade down there and severely lower the enemies health for them
>Teammate thanks me by stopping the fight and emoting nonstop as the enemy uses their second wind feat and kills them
I fucking hate honorfags so fucking much
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>Tfw no amount of deadzone adjustment can make parrying on controller as easy as mouse
>Everything but parrying is easier and more natural on controller
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Is Peacekeeper fuck ugly under her helm? :(
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>>173961283
Yes
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>>173961283
I'd say she's pretty but her lips are bruised and her nose is bloodied or broken from losing to and being facefucked by so many hung shugokis
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>>173961789
>fat asian dude
>hung

sure
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>PK heavy follows a dodge
good thing no pk ever uses heavy
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>>173962514
they do all the time, it just doesn't do the damage of a heavy attack, especially not now after the nerf
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>>173962387
>7ft tall strongfat elite warrior in medieval times
>Implying he wouldn't be high test and hung as fuck
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>>173948989
ROMA INVICTA BROTHER ANONS, AVE IMPERATOR
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hey kid https://discord.gg/FZVQxty
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>>173962887
AVE
I need to make a folder for romeposting
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>fighting Rep 9 Nobushi in Elim
>after 3 attacks, she gets Revenge
>literally my 4th fight as Orochi, start going fast until it ends
>Wow!
>Wow!
>Wow!
>go back and finish it
I'm not staying for revenge builds, and you're stupid for thinking I would.
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Bushranger when?
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>>173961283
No. That's like saying any of the Knights will look busted as fuck.
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>>173959973
It would be balanced if most of the cast wasn't stuck parrybaiting to get anywhere.
So long as the defensive meta persists, having one character being able to force a 50/50 at any time is obviously going to make that char near op in comparison.
Just look at shugoki.
Everyone is losing their shit over a character who's usually parrybait having a strong 50/50. While warden gets a free pass because reasons.
The rest of his kit isn't shit either, if they nerfed his bash a bit and made his zone safe on block he would be perfect imo.
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>>173961217
Having both feint and gb available without moving your fingers is also a pretty big plus.
The one and only downside i've found with kb+m is targeting people in a group fight is clunky as fuck.
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>>173946854
What even is lag switch? How would somebody weaken their connection, and wouldn't it be a 50/50 that their opponent benefits instead?
I was trying to learn zerk and got trashed by an orochi who spammed wow and emotes, so I switched into my rep4 orochi to wipe that smug grin off his face. Suddenly no attack indicators, jumping around the map, attacks hitting me when he's not even next to me, same shit.
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Can someone explain to me why Ubisoft will make not warden's shoulder bash not to be cancelled by a GB?
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warden is the most balanced and skill based character in the game
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>>173948971
Lol it's supposed to, the bug is that some people sometimes block it. Its meant to be, like conq. Only guaranteed damage you get unless your enemy is shit.
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>>173964229
It's just intentionally fucking with your connection to lag up the game. Really benefits you in p2p
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>>173964286
100% agree
too bad the rest are either complete trash or op as fuck
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im so fucking sick of fucking roaches. , they all just spam their fucking uncounterable gaurd break all the time for free heavies
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>>173964729
>uncounterable
it's time you got... at least not brain dead and learned how to press one button
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>>173964830
fucking assassins have this cancerous fucking gaurdbreak that is like 3 times faster than everyone else.

you can only really counter gaurd breaks if you are expecting them, actually expecting people to counter gaurd breaks on reaction is literal fucking autism
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>>173965064
hahaha
no.

>there are still people like you in this thread
no wonder the "warden is OP nerf now" posts still come up
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>>173965124
i can only counter gaurd break when im expecting it, and even then fucking assassins are so fucking fast, and you have such a no window at all, that i still get gaurd broken, its fucking cancer.
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>>173964729
>They along with Nobushis tend to have the worst connection

It's rare the you fight one with a decent connection, when everything is even, they're manageable

I just hate how if you fuck the parry from their wind up attack thing, they get a free guard break and top heavy off you

Also zone flickering, please roaches kys
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>2 daily Skirmish orders
>3 skirmish contracts

Skirmish is the worst designed game mode in the history of gaming

It makes my fucking blood boil
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>>173965064
>actually expecting people to counter gaurd breaks on reaction is literal fucking autism
Wat.
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>>173965335
>dude nothing is wrong!
>just counter this animation that takes half a fucking second to fully complete
literally not even enough time for you to move your finger to another button and hit it after you see they are going for a gaurd break
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>>173965274
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>be me
>play elimination
>kill 2 people by myself
>the other three retards on my team couldn't kill a single person
>have to 2v1 the other two
>kill one, then get jewed by a fucking faggot weeb nip
WHY IS EVERYONE SO FUCKIGN BAD AT THIS GAME?1 I SEE PEOPLE LOSE TO LEVEL ONE BOTS ALL THE THE FUCKING TIME! HOW??!!
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>>173965464
you should stop posting now, you are being unreasonably retarded right now, take a minute and git gud you fucking idiot
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>>173965464
>Can't reaction CGB
I bet you think roaches side light are too fast aswell.
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Do Sprint Speed stat really change anything? Doesn't feel like it does.
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>join game
>enemy team:
>roach
>berzerker
>warden
>peacenigger
this game has become aids
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>>173958864
>whack someone wearing no armor with a sword
>they don't get mortally wounded
it's a game ya dingus
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>>173965771
As long as it's not a big ass two hander and not a stabing attack, you'd be surprised how well you can tank a sword strike.
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>>173949219
Centurion will be more broken than Warden. Switching will make you a bigger asshole.
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>>173966494
>'warden' and 'broken' in the same sentence
what did he mean by this?
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>>173959370
What if I'm rep17, played since launch before anyone realized Oni rush is broken and still don't use it.
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>>173966840
Everyone that plays this game is a garbage person, and anyone who plays and also posts on /vg/ is even worse than that.
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>>173966690
By broken he means OP, the Warden mixup is so powerful it is broken.

As opposed to broken meaning useless. Just figure it out by context you fucking retard.
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>do some duels
>2/3 matches are assassins
>100% of those assassins use their zone attack non stop

Why should I bother?
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>>173967152
>'warden mixup' and 'OP' in the same sentence
what did he mean by this?
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nerf orochi damage

buff raider

buff berserker

nerf parries

>>173967202
lol just react to the 400ms feint/flicker cancel into zone scrub xD
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>Load into elimination as a Lawbringer
>Face another Lawbringer round one
>He's doing nothing but turtling, and blocking all my lights, countering every GB
>Eventually all three teammates show up
>They just stand to the side emoting
>Can't do a goddamn thing because turtle meta is too strong
>End up dying to him
>My team proceeds to 1v1 him, and refuse to revive me
>Quit
I hope the game crashed for them, I fucking hate honorfags
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>>173967975
>nerf orochi
He needs a buff not a nerf.
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>>173968156
He needs that flicker bullshit fixed, then a buff
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>>173968292
Not defending it but i hope you realize that every char has the flicker and unless you hold light+heavy at the exact frame your opponent will always see you doing the flicker
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>>173968513
But his flicker is too fast to react to compared to the other zones.
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>>173968575
Still if they are going to fix the flicker they should do it on every character.
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>>173968156
He needs a rework

I mean it's just ridiculous he gets 32 damage from landing 1 top light and 35 from a guardbreak. Ridiculous! Why does he get so much damage? He's a scrawny little manlet with a butter knife.
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>>173968676
It's a stupid simple problem.
All they have to do is force you to be in the correct starting guard to initiate a zone, or mirror zones so they can come from either side.
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>>173968778
The funny thing about that is that some Orochi players rely so heavily on that top light that if you guard top and counter GB then you've already won. They don't know how to do anything else.
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>Want to play LB
>Get in teams that have at the minimum 2 LB
>Want to play Raider
>Get in teams that have at the minimum 2 Raiders
>And so fucking on

I mean I'm not trying to be a hipster, I just like to have a good class-type balance.
I don't bitch at people for playing whatever they pick though so at least there's that.
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>>173969764
The thing is that roaches only have 2 viable moves: top lighs and zone with an occasionall parry bait into storm rush wich can be easily blocked/parried
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>>173969764
they can't o anything else
same for kensei
nobushi
berserker
LB
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>>173964172
I have feint and guardbreak mapped to my analog sticks R3 and L3.

It's shitty because I can't mash GB to counter I guess. I didn't even know I was missing out until people pointed out how easy countering was when you mashed.
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>>173970090
>Playing brawl
>The weeb in my team picks LB first
>He's shit at it, he even runs away from his battle
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>>173970978
I still can't think of a good reason for brawl to limit picks. It's the only mode that does so.
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>>173971123
How would you feel if you had to fight 2 lights spamming PKs every round EVEN in brawls?
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>>173971306
Honestly, I'd deal with that shit if I got to play whatever I want every round.
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>>173965064
>>173964729
>>173965274
You should change what your guardbreak button is so you can hit it faster. It should be really obvious when you see the red shield guardbreak icon, and you can just jam the fuck out of the guardbreak button.
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>PK that light spam
>It's always from one direction then the opposite
>I still fall for it

End my suffering
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I just had some Rep 12 Warden try to explain to me how Kensei is broken compared to Warden

Fucking hell these people
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>>173972106
>Be an assassin
>Block left
>PK attacks right
>Know the next attack is left, keep blocking
>Your 1 sec runs out
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is there a general consensus on how much the first round of dlc characters will cost? i've heard 20000 steel and 5000 steel.
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>>173936126

>that fucking retarded, disproportionate swastika
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>>173972778
50000 or 60000

If $1=1000 steel
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>>173967202
>I can't just hold my guard in the direction their zone always hits and switch on a light
Seriously git gud
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>>173972487
>cant even drag the mouse to keep it refreashing

the most annoying this about assassins
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>>173973175
why the fuck would a dlc character cost 50$? no, you can buy 5k steel for 5$, which is how much the dlc characters are worth in r6 siege if you purchase them, which goes on the exact same model. So they will most likely be 5k steel.
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>>173971123
>double shugis one charging another doing full heavy
>double warden both doing lvl3
and so on
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>>173973381
added one more 0 sorry
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holy shit lawbringer is the new conq

when will they gut his shove into light?
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Are they really going to let Wardens continue with this bullshit guessing game shoulder bash bullshit? I mean it's literally a guessing game.

>shoulder bash, side or bash step, get guard broken
>shoulder bash, side step attack, get parried
>shoulder bash, stand there, get top heavied

How is that fair at all? How do I counter? I seriously have to back roll every time? He said I should GB more, but if I attempt a GB while he's bashing then i just bounce off like an idiot.

What a bullshit class.
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>>173973701
Are you stupid, or just bad?
Shove is 10x easier to dodge than headbutt and gives away a guaranteed guard break much more reliably.
They're not gutting the light, they're going to make it guaranteed.

I agree it's pretty BS on block though.
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>>173973826
The devs play Wardens and Peacekeepers

Don't expect anything
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>>173973826
You just throw out a light to stop them! They totally won't start canceling the shoulder to parry that light!

I'm convinced the devs main Warden, because they have not said a single fucking word about him needing a nerf
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>>173973381
going by the emote costs
i feel like it's safe to assume that the dlc heroes would cost around 25k
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>>173947661
It looks better with a white hexagon in the middle.

And it's desu.
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>>173965285
you can cancel a guard break that comes after storm rush
the top light is free though
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>>173973826
>>173974024
light attack will stop everything, unless you get hit by his top light
and you cannot stop the shoulder and parry on reaction

treat it as any other unblockable
and if you can't react to it, blame it on yourself
you have 800ms to attack him
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>>173973513
no worries.
>>173974051
I mean, not really, unless they have a 'you buy it for x money OR spend steel for it'
25k is like 10$ or 15$ which is a lot more than what they're worth in the season pass and such.
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>>173965770
>join game
>enemy team is characters in the game
>>>>>this game has become aids
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>>173974309
>and you cannot stop the shoulder and parry on reaction
I've had it happen to me countless times. And yes, I mix up where the lights are coming from
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>>173973701
>LB needs nerfs
>i'm Rep 4 LB and the patch hasn't come out on console yet
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>every thread
>"guys, YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHAT THIS WARDEN JUST DID"
>"wardenfags are so delusional amirite?"
>"just BTFO some random warden in duel, how will they ever recover?"
>"warden op pls nerf"
is any of this supposed to be impressive or BREAKING NEWS or are all of you seriously this buttfrustrated about warden that you'll take anything you can get
his shoulder check needs a rework and quite possibly the zone attack, but every fucking thread it's the same shit
I haven't heard this much whining since Vanilla Sagat

>inb4 ur just a salty wardenshitter lmao @ ur life

Kensei actually
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>>173974492
>i've had it happen to me ;^)
mug feeling
no, you cannot cancel shoulder bash on reaction and parry a light attack

the input for cancel comes out way before the animation ends
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>>173973826
If it's a gamble for you then it's a gamble for them aswell
>let go of shoulder bash, get hit in the face
>lv3 charge, dodged and punished with an untechable gb
>cancel into GB, get CGB or hit in the face
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>>173974492
you don't even have enough fucking time to feint.

how is that fair?

The dude I was playing was really good too. He wouldn't admit that the shoulder bash is OP though, he's in denial
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>>173974971
you are the one that is in denial
shoulder bash is not op
ask anyone that is not a potato
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>>173974340

Ill be okay with thier price being $10 or $15 IF

Ubisoft lets people play them without buying them like the other heroes
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>warden
>warden
>warden
>LB that only do shove
>close the game
Just tell me, is there ANY hope i should hold on?
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>>173975182
>is there ANY hope i should hold on?
Yes the hope that maybe one day you'll get good
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>>173975078
>Turns a skilled fighting game into a literal guessing game where only warden can do damage for guessing correctly
It's OP and boring as shit
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>>173975182
Just keep practicing until you can handle them
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>>173968827
>or mirror zones so they can come from either side.
That would still leave up flickers, and the potential to come from left or right would make some zones even harder to defend against
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>>173975182
no. the game is too shallow to be fixed. they would have to totally redesign it. lower damage across the board, drastically lower stamina costs for attack, make all heavies unblockable, and reduce the parry window. that would be a start but would break other things. there's nothing they can do.
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To reiterate from the last thread:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-US/news-community/152-288721-16/this-week-in-for-honor-4132017
>Lawbringer's shove > light is meant to be guaranteed when it connects, like Warlord's headbutt > stab
>Berserker is getting his exhaustion punish unjanked
>Orochi is balanced; Ubisoft will address the defensive meta before changing Orochi
>Revenge is meant to give you a bit of breathing room, maybe take down one enemy. If you're constantly surrounded, either your team is shit or you're shit
>Soft feints are a bug and will be removed. If Ubisoft decides to bring it back later, it will be in a more consistent form
>Shugoki charge will definitely be nerfed; it was never meant to be a "core" move
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>>173974793
I don't get the "warden is op" whining either. I mean the rest of his kit feels too good compared to other heroes, but the shoulder bash is fairly reasonable. Like I don't understand why no one complains about warlords lightning fast head butt that's basically 50/50.

its probably just a bunch of kids memeing
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>>173974736
Don't worry, the people complaining about law right now are universally retarded. He needs another round of buffs to be competitive with decent players.
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>>173975374
>warden guesses just as much
>you deal damage for guessing right
also
>skilled fighting game
this is you 1st right?
because there are way more "OP" things in other fighting games by your standarts
and most of the moves are countered on prediction, like warden's "vortex"
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>>173975374
>where only warden can do damage for guessing correctly
read
>>173974812
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>>173975379
Mirroring them would still eliminate flicker if they're locked to come from the first input direction, but yes, it would effectively give PK/Warden/Orochi another tool.
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>pk's thinks they're top shit
oh you're shit alright
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>>173974793
>Choosing this thread to complain about complainers
>The most rage free thread we've had this far

Ur just a salty wardenshitter lmao @ ur life
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I love playing Shugoki. The enemy can suck balls but they will always be better on the grounds that you play Goki.

Hearty laughs everyday. Thanks based ubisoft. Fucking over people is all I want from a multiplayer game.
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>>173975504
>Lawbringer's shove > light is meant to be guaranteed when it connects, like Warlord's headbutt > stab
Can you dodge warlord's stab?
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>>173976013
No, but you can dodge the headbutt, and shove is just as slow as, if not slower than, headbutt.
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>>173976084
Then they're different. You can dodge LB's light after shove
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>>173975182
>fight a new wave LB
>shove shove shove shove shove
>keep gbing him after every shove even though im a LB myself
>he just keeps doing it
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>>173976163
Not anymore, if he hits the shove. If it's not, that's a bug to be fixed.
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>>173975907

>Win most fights
>Developers nerfed me as they saw fit
Everything is in order, man. Maybe just git gud or stop playing ^^
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twitch /forhonorgame
Dev stream in ~10 minutes
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>>173975991


>>173930506
>>173930842
>>173932003
>>173935779
>>173936416
>>173941954
>>173944709
>>173955891
>>173958676
>>173963873
>>173964280
>>173967152
>>173972207
>>173973826
>>173973946
>>173974024
>>173975374


rage != complaining
I'm talking an aggregate of all the threads so far. Sorry I didn't complain when you say it's okay buddy
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>>173975675
You can guess correctly 100% of the time and cannot damage warden
>Dodge the shoulder
He can block and counter Gb right away
>Tech the GB
Just sets you to neutral
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>>173976350
No, they literally say that it's supposed to be dodgeable in this week's article. They want it to be a 50/50 between the light and a gb after the shove. Which is not enough to make the shove from neutral worth attempting because anyone with reflexes will just dodge the shove and GB you for free, but is probably a little TOO strong on the block>shove.
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>>173935978
>>173937270
i mean thanks but i posted it because the textures were all fucked.
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>>173976350
>Regarding the Lawbringer, there is indeed a bug, and we are looking into it. Shove light should never be blockable and should be dodgeable.
Anon...
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>>173976936
>>173977009
You can dodge sooner than you can confirm block?
>>
Just either give everyone several abusable skills or make everything reactionary. As long as the game has characters with GB cancelable unblockables or other 50/50 shit like that while most characters don't have that, it won't be balanced.
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>>173977113
In this case yes.
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>everyone complaining about warden
>not a single post on warlord
>warlord does statistically better in literally every matchup compared to warden
>L I T E R A L L Y B E T T E R
>still people complain about warden all day

Stealth warlord mains in this thread
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>>173977113
I think they made it a special case, like some attacks hit you even if you guard correctly, just because its confirmed damage
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>>173977205
Warlord got a nerf, warden didn't.
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>>173977205
those statistical matchup things are total shit, though. The difference of one or two percent means giant nerfs, and the other doesn't even get touched. Ubisoft needs to actually talk with high level players and shit instead of going off casual statistics that clearly don't work.
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>>173977293
>implying warlord still isn't just as good

You realize warlord's head butt is still faster than shoulder bash right?
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>>173977205
You can react to Warlord at least. With Warden the game is reduced down to literal guessing
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>>173977205
>>173977440
like seriously, in that image, conq and shugoki have literally the same winrate percentage, but one got totally fucked in the recent patch, while one didn't get changed at all.
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>>173977440
The MU 21+ chart is matchups among high-skill players. Ubisoft's acceptable winrate margin is 45-55%.
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>>173976654
>lights and zone
>skill

:^)
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>>173977440
>casual statistics

Nigga look at the top right corner. Those statistics ARE the high level players
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>>173977582
>>173977673
conq has a 55% winrate, but got nerfed to shit. Shugoki has literally the same winrate and didn't get touched. Don't try to defend ubisofts total garbage balancing method. I don't even play conq btw.
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>>173977489
Sure.
But you can't cancel it, so dodging to go for the GB is safe.
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>>173977531
>t-this anecdotal evidence completely proves my point

the guy that posted that web, literally said it was one in a million, there's absolutely no way for you to accurately say he did that on reaction
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>>173977569
>>173977810
That's because, if you look closely at the chart, Conq had more lopsided matchups, good or bad, than Shug (4 acceptable margins vs. 5, respectively. And those lopsided matches are pretty damning.
>High-skill pre-nerf Conq had a 71% winrate against Kensei
>High-skill pre-nerf Conq had a 67% winrate against Lawbringer
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>>173977205
this chart is retarded
>what do they consider high elo?
>why are so many shit chars winning so much if this is "high elo"?
>why are top characters not higher in wr?
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>>173977205
>zerk
>42% across the board
and the devs say she's fine

LEL
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>>173977905
>Characters all have lights with one being faster than the other
>Light attack is the only way to stop Warden from starting his vortex
>HE WOULD NEVER EVER PREDICT YOU WOULD STOP HIM WITH A LIGHT WITH YOUR CHARACTERS FASTEST LIGHT ATTACK AND PARRY IT
Warden mains are pathetic
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>>173977531
>still posting this webm when the one who made this stated that this was done on prediction and not on reaction
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>>173977531
>literal guessing

Bitch please. Warlord has the same 50/50. Except his head butt is fast enough to make it near impossible to interrupt with a light unless you're fucking pk with her zone cancel.

Warlord dashes at you. You have two options.

If he guesses you dash away he simply gets a confirmed gb instead of head butting. GB confirms into top heavy.

If he guesses you don't dash and opts for the head butt he gets a confirmed light.

Fucking 50/50 that everyone complains about but 300ms faster and way harder to punish.
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>>173977957
MU 21+, the chart you're quoting, IS high ELO.
This chart represents average ELO.
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>>17397767
but playing 4v4s lowers your duel level, so that can't be trusted
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>>173978025
the only shure way to stop it is unlock and roll away
light attacks are your geuss that counters the most choulder outcomes and punishes them
only a single guess does not get punished by it and that's a cancel into a parry
provided the warden is good enough even parry fast light attacks

you are full of bulshit and you know that
>>
twitch /forhonorgame
Stream is live
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>>173978025
>like pottery
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>>173978095

Top light when he's within range. Learn spacing.
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>>173978124
still does not answer what are they considering "high elo"
is it gamae x wr, does it have specific requirements for char games played or a minimum time spent in duels?
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Posting fashion

Think ill stick with this for a while, pouncing owl is so good though.
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>>173978361
>he just parries it
literally the same argument as vs warden
warlord is no longer that broken as he used to be
I love fighting warlords as a warden, shit is an actuall match up instead of parrybait
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>>173978361
Oh hey did I mention he can also all stance after a dash?

So what do you think happens if he dashes you and all stances on the assumption you're going to toss out a light top?

Free confirmed light attack from the warlord.

Holy fuck it's the warden's "33/33/33" imagine that.
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>>173975504
>Ubisoft will address the defensive meta

Literally the best thing about the game is how drawn out and tense the fights between two highly defensive players get
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>>173978728
That shit is fucking awful. It's a literal staring contest and whoever gets bored and tries attacking first loses
>>
Community workshop is happening right now: a bunch of players are at the studios and are playing early builds and offering feedback.

Xbox patch is delayed a little

Reviewing the faction war: knights are out of the running to win the season, but the final round is still important. If the knights win the round, the Viking/Samurai tiebreaker for the season comes down to WHO DEPLOYS MORE WAR ASSETS.
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>>173978728
>opinions held by absolute no one for 2000 alex
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>>173978728
no
not gonna write a paragraph why you are wrong, so just
NO.
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>>173978412
not to mention the game plays a bit differently on console compared to pc. I can def. see elo games and higher elo on console may not be the same as on pc. It comes down ultimately to ubisoft being shit at balance, they need to rework so much about this game that a year probably isn't enough time.
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>>173978787
>Xbox patch is delayed a little
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173978124
>yfw Raider is the lowest
>mfw i usually win most of my matches anyway
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>>173978779
>>173978801

>Remove defensive meta
>Becomes a game where best masher wins every time

So you guys are assassin mains then?
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> All these shitfest about Warden
You get it now, Warden mains? How we PK mains felt even though we acknowledged what's wrong with our character? Tell me, how does it feel like being the new cancer king?
>>
>talking about shit the consoles already know

french fucks
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>>173978701

You fucking realize it's the same thing either way? If you predict any of those correctly he suffers the same punishment if not worse.

Most people don't realize that there's multiple counters to any given situation that end badly for anyone. In this fucking turtle-heavy meta no one should be complaining that there's an attack that can ACTUALLY go through sometimes and you have to actually do something about it.
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>>173978779
Only if you fuck up your engage.
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when is the stream boys
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>>173979008
PK is stil lthe same bullshit

warden being op, however has no basis or proof
like entire touranments being filled with PK only
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>>173978787
What do they mean by community workshop?

>>173979008
Nothing will ever replace PK, senpai. You are stuck with that title.
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>>173978990
No, I'm just someone fucking sick of playing against Warlords doing nothing but headbutt and waiting for a parry so they can get a free kill by ledging me
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>confirmed raider buffs and warden vortex changes in two weeks on PC
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Roman on stage.

Console patch will be out next week. Just reviewing what's in the patch.

Ubisoft is working internally on a new setting that will let you alter the dead zones of your controller. The function will be available for all platforms, but it won't be in the next patch.

1.06 will address Shugoki charge, Raider buffs, and a SMALL nerf to PK lights.
>>
Livestream says in 2 weeks (PC):
Shugoki charge nerf
Warden vortex nerf
PK Light spam nerf
Raider buff
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>>173979142
> warden being op, however has no basis or proof
> 50/50
just do a light attack lmao
>>173979174
t. warden main
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>>173979245
source?
>>
Next patch nerfing FatJap's 50/50 buffing Raider nerfing Warden's vortex and pks lights
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>>173979030
>missing my point entirely

I was making the argument that warlord has the same shoulder bash-esque mechanic except it comes out much faster and yet no one in this thread bats an eyelash.

what I'm trying to say is everyone in this thread is garbo-tier and doesn't know what they are talking about and needs to gitgud
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>>173979320
t.pk

> 50/50
?
where is the proof that warden is op
like i said
where are the tournaments filled with wardens only?
like it was with PKs
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I seriously hope you guys don't do this
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>>173979356
The Stream.
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>>173979320
Raider main senpai, I've got Warden to rep 1. I agree some of his moves are cheap af, but still PK is the still agreed cancer of the game, sorry bruh
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>Stream chat is already blowing up with PLZ DON'T NERF WARDEN
It begins
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>>173979451
Of course not.
It's Lex Vult between LB's.
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>devs ignoring all the DLC questions
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>>173979258
>roman on stage
tfw thought they where showing off centurion gameplay
fucking roman
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In an upcoming week, there will be update that will change how you join matches. You will join matches earlier and will ensure more stability. Server-side patch will be out after consoles get patched.

>Q&A
Color-blind mode is still being worked on

Devs confirm: LB's shove -> light can't be blocked, but it can be dodged; it's currently bugged and will be fixed

Warlord's loss of tracking on his headbutt is intended

Devs confirm that flickering is a bug and will be removed; they're working on it internally.

Faction war season reward are kept a secret, but it definitely will be better than the round rewards
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>>173979507
Nope. At least with PK mains, there's acknowledgement that she actually have problems. Warden mains on the other hand. Well you can see the shitfest.
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My uncle said that lawbringer is getting a guaranteed heavy after a shove
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Why do the devs sound like they're fucking drunk or something?
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>>173979823
Your uncle is just trying to get into your butt.
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>it's a "warden says his zone isn't fast at all and says top light is slow and that vortex is entirely avoidable and punishable" episode
fuck these cunts, it was a weeb too
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>>173979918
Because they're Canadian. The devstream runs out of Ubisoft Montreal.
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>another 50/50
LMAO
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>Warden apologists in the thread no where to be seen after the devs confirm his shoulder is op and is getting a nerf
AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>173979952
75% of the heroes in the game have 500ms lights though, relatively speaking the Warden top light is not "fast", it's average.
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Roman mentioned they are considering removing revenge entirely in duels.
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>>173979805
I've seen plenty of times PK mains defending their fucking character. "She's not broken you guys just need to block, time the blocks, her lights arent over powered" I'm not saying that Warden doesnt have some broken shit, I'm saying that PK is still more cancer than Warden.
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>This dev gameplay
How can you be so fucking bad at your own game? I guess we know why they can't balance for shit
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>>173979997
>thread is slow while stream is on
>almost as if everyone is watching the stream
this nigger >>173974793 was right, everyone is trying to take any win they can because they're so angry
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>>173980329
I noticed that warden isn't doing the vortex. Is he doing it on purpose?
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>>173980329
>>173980531
These aren't the devs playing. These are the players visiting the studios for the community workshop.
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>No DLC info what so ever
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>>173980631

They could have atleast shown us duels with the DLC heroes
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Devs confirm next patch will also un-jank Berserker's exhaustion punish.

>>173980631
>>173980738
They refuse to acknowledge the leaks or DLC early, not before the first season is even over. Most likely, we're only going to see them in the downtime between seasons.
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Roman said they do acknowledge that environmental hazards are pretty ridiculous on some maps for duel/brawl, and they're looking at things internally to see if things can be changed.
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PK Mains
This is the face of your king.
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>>173980186
The amount of PK mains who acknowledged the broken lights are what matters. There's this habit of me asking some questions about the game before the match. You'll be surprised that some PK just main PK to take advantage of her broken lights because "lol muh K/D" and not passionately believing that she isn't broken. Of course I'm not saying that all PK mains are like this because I've definitely encountered turbo autistic ones.
I have yet to encounter a warden main who accepts that his character is broken. Take this general for example.
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>>173981168
who
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>>173981046
> that environmental hazards are pretty ridiculous on some maps for duel/brawl
Why is it ridiculous though? I still don't understand what's with people shitting on environmental hazards.
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>>173981465
one fuckup can mean insta kill
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>pk light spam shitter BTFO

YES!
YES!
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>>173981168
>loses to warlord
I guess i know what hero im maining next
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>>173981465
He's saying that certain duel/brawl maps are a bit too egregious with how prevalent the hazards are.
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>>173981465
Some ledges in duels/brawls are literally unavoidable, especially if a Warlord decides to turtle next to one
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>a guy in green glasses is stoned af
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KENSEI BRO ON STREAM

KENSEI BRO ON STREAM
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>>173981729

and

He doesnt even play kensei right this dude is fucking high
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>>173981729
More like kensei BTFO
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>>173981918

Weed man is coming back
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>>173981729
REMOVE WARDEN
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>Literally every "pro" duel they have goes to the tie breaker round
This shit is obviously rigged
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Kensei OP plz nerf
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>>173982013
yeah that last hit through the block was fucking bullshit
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>Warden didn't even use his vortex well against the Kensei
>Stream chat instantly blowing up SEE WARDENS VORTEX ISN'T OP PLZ DON'T NERF
I've waited so long for this salt
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Chat complaining nothing was announced, when they literally said there will be a PC patch in two weeks that touches Shug, Warden, PK, and Raider among others.

Ungrateful fucks.
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>>173979429
Unless you were playing shugoki/WL/PK/Conk, he'd push your shit in.
And since these numbers, WL/PK/Conk have all been nerfed.
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Is the stream over?
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Anyone know this song thats playing it sounds pretty nice
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>>173982198
They were all saying that warden sucked, that he wasn't vortexing on purpose
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More or less throw distance?

What are the best stats for a Kensei?
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>>173982323
Yes, the stream is over.
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>>173982336
Some of them specifically said "B-BUT WARDENS VORTEX IS TOO STRONG RIGHT? :("

But either way all those fights were rigged. What are the odds every fight goes to the tie breaker round?
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>someone named aliens called out to me in the stream again.
>still don't know who they are
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Why is the stability in 4v4 modes so fucking dreadful. This game has been out for months Ubi, pls fucking apply yourself, even Siege wasn't this unstable
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>>173982471
They're cutting servers to see what the minimum maintenance level they have to sustain is.
Expect the service to get /slightly/ better & then remain shit forever.
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Anyone on ps4? I am not very good but playing alone is boring
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>>173982406
>I tune in right when it ends

fuck
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>>173982198
t. reddit

m-muh warden op! pls nerf!
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>>173982685
It is op, he wouldn't be getting a nerf otherwise
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>>173982441
it's me squatting, I follow you everywhere you go <3
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(reddit)/5zh3do
this is fine
>plebbit
just read it
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>>173982402
please halp
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>>173982820
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>>173982761
Really makes me think.

There has to be some reason as to why Warden never makes it to the top 5 in tournaments, right? Surely that means he's OP!
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When do you start getting purple gear again? around rep 3 right? started a new character after i got my Raider to rep 10 and forgot when they started coming
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>>173983075
It's getting nerfed, cry more nerd
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>>173983219
>inb4 it's a small nerf
>inb4 you and reddit begin drowning the earth in shit from hissy fits
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>>173982421
I figured that was common. Most of my fights are either cleans sweeps or 5 round tie-breakers.
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>tfw
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>>173983315
>inb4 warden mains are crying for months after the nerf
You're already bitching about it, afraid it's gonna be a big nerf?
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>>173977531
>>173978091
>>173977905
That's fucking bonkers. Being able to cancel that shoulder so quick is so stupid. It doesn't matter whether it's prediction or reaction, because it was all done within a PEACEKEEPER'S light attack window. That should tell you how bullshit it is.
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>>173983398

Same my dude
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>>173983416
>months
>assuming it is a big nerf, devs realize they fucked up in the first few weeks
>revert/buff

??
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>>173978970
That's because you must have a good foundation of basics and reactions. The Raider skillset is so barebones, that it's basically any other regular hero stripped of any features. I mean stunning people is cool, but you can only stun up, and it's decently telegraphed enough for parries.

While you may be good, your same skillset would be more amazing on other characters.
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>>173983398
>covers up his name so he can never complete it
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>>173982957
His throw distance is sort of shit. If you reliably want wallsplats some more doesn't hurt.
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>>173983476
Peacekeeper's pre-nerf zone attack, actually.
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>>173982298
Why TF is Warden 45% against Shugoki? Warden's one of the best at getting his passive down and getting him into a staggerlock.
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>>173983919
You know how to flatter a girl, anon. I got Raider to rep 10 and decided to play some other guys, and i feel i'm getting better with them. I play them like I'm playing Raider, parries mostly, and i feel like i hold my own against some higher up people. I just don't know how to utilize the "specials" about each character
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>>173984319
Because Warden has no answer for Shug's charge.
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Is there any better way to do wall throw into demon's embrace? Can't seem to buffer it since you get GB instead and I guess that you need max distance to make it more reliable
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>>173983075
>You have to be playing 1 of the 4 most-broken characters to beat warden
>3 of which got nerfed in the last patch
>he's n-not OP
He was a close #5, with #4&3 being tied, & #1-4 being the only characters who could counter him.
I wonder I wonder, why the tournament was filled with #1-3, when they were the top 3 most-broken and all of which were effective against warden.
Hmmmmmmm
REALLY DOES make you think.
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>>173984460
That means you're using your fundamentals more than your character's specific tools, which is a crucial skill to have.
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>>173984475
>stand near wall
>parry anything
>gb
>throw
>hug
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>>173984471
You mean if he just keeps running back and forth until he gets a hit? If he's committed to it, either let it go to a draw or trade for a top heavy, he'll have to give up and fight eventually.
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>>173975638
Let them complain as I gather an unstopoable monopoly on salt.
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why is it so hard to dodfe conq bash

I swear I press dodge it as soon as i can but it always fucking hits me
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>>173985095
You shouldn't dodge immediately
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>Elim as Rep 2 Raider
>Facing a rep 5 Berserker.
>He gets me down to one bar really quick.
>Manage to parry the rest of his attacks and mix him up with my unblockable.
>Kill him after working my ass off parrying his lights and whatnot.
>Do the "Good Fight!" thing
>He calls me a pussy and tries to gank me the rest of the game.
>Tfw it never worked out for him.
What did I do wrong besides beat him fair and square?
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Can someone teach me how to play against people who are good at parrying, AND spam feint-into-GB? If I try to parry I get GB'd and can't tech, if I don't I just get chipped down, if I try to attack I get parried. If I try to feint I just get hit by a light.
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>>173985192

i dont, i dodge midway but my char never moves in time
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>>173985256
Is he pinning you to the wall and fucking you, or in the open?
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>>173985219
Given the choice of insult, probably that you played defensively instead of making a suicidal zone attack.
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>>173985095

you must be trash. its impossible to hit anyone with that shit move now unless its a frame trap from a baited dodge or after a dodge block
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>>173985293

in the open, theres a delay between me pressing dodge and charcter actually dodging and it fucks me over
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>>173985443

no it isnt you mong
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People expected them to show DLC stuff in the stream before the season was over?! Really, what ever gave you that idea. Besides if they had half the community would have said, "showing DLC stuff before fixing the game waaaahhhh".
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>>173985595

sorry, i should have been more specific. its impossible to hit ANYONE WHO ISNT PURE SHIT* with that shit move now
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>>173985404
I mean, I did light -> Zone Feint or just straight zone if I figured he was on tilt. I wish I could tell him I'm sorry for not playing like a dummy.
>Round 2.
>Fighting a Warden.
>Doing alright, but then I see my Lawbringer running my way.
>Then I notice the same Berserker.
>Block him and the Warden for a bit, and get revenge.
>He takes this to mean "I should do my slow, dashing top heavy."
>Pop revenge and chunk him to death on the ground.
>"Good Fight!"
>He leaves.
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>>173985713
Fighting in this game isn't even that fun for me anymore, but pissing off people never gets old
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>>173985462
I suppose the other important question is class. I'm not an expert, but it sure feels like some classes are slower to dodge.

>>173985713
Mmmm, gankers at low health giving free revenge.
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>>173985443
You're probably just really bad.
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>>173985907

i'm in the top 0.1% of Conqs and I've been playing him since the betas.

Conq is trash now and his bash is only viable in a very small set of circumstances which makes it easy to see coming now
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>>173986340
Who cares, it's still unpunishable.
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>>173986625
It isn't though. A conq can't even counter guardbreak after a missed shield bash anymore. It's unpunishable only if you get hit by it.
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>in the Warrior's Den Video

Guest Player says
>Today I'm gonna play a Warden
>Because I'm a filthy shoulder basher

Roman pops in
>THAT'S COMING TO AN END
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>>173986818
So it's unpunishable by classes who can't GB after a dodge?
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>>173987037
Wait, what?

Didn't the animation for the Zerk deflect trigger? Is that just lag?
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>Rep 1 Warden
>Matched with rep 4-7 team

I'm not even mad I got my ass beat, I'm mad I was thrown against them at all.
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>warlord complaoins about me being a noob with shug cos I only use 3 attacks

jesu what did he want me to do throw out random heavies to parry?
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I'm a scumbag for messaging people but I can't help myself

Those PK's, Wardens and Warlords on console need to know the truth
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>>173987464
Yes.
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As a warden main im perfectly fine with a nerf on the bash stamina cost and feint/gb cancel window but any more than that and warden will be orochi tier
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>>173987142
I'm not sure how tight the timing is, but I'm pretty sure many classes dodge easily enough for a GB. No class has a combo GB from dodge after all, (unless you count Berserker's deflect which does nothing to shield bash). The following nerfs were made to shield bash:
- Can't counter GB from hit and miss recoveries
- Lost all ability to block towards any direction during the animation

Also conq can't go into fullblock anymore after being hit or pushed around.
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>warden
>two hand sword
>one of fastest guard switches in game
yo wtf is up with this shit? raider/law/shuggi has slow guard why not warden?
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>>173987864
I'm pretty sure A poleaxe and shugokis club are way heavier, Raider is mostly wood so you have a point there
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>ubisoft's cheap-jew servers go down
>get kicked out of campaign
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>>173987864
>2handed sword being as heavy as a giant spiked club and a war axe.
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>>173987864
Longswords aren't really that heavy. Like 1.5 kg on average. Even ones on the heavier end would fall under 2 kg.
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>>173987864
Because he just moves his shoulders instead of flipping the whole damn weapon around
That's the warden's real weapon: pauldrons
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>have to complete 1 more round of skirmish for the daily
>freeze before the results screen
>error before the results screen
>freeze before the results screen
This shit is why I don't even try in matches anymore. Why bother attempting to win when the game will arbitrarily flush it all down the drain? You get the same rewards for losing.
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>>173939830
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>>173988315
The Warden doesn't even wear pauldrons though, he wears spaulders.
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is there any better feel when you gank a peacekeeper?

god I hate those faggots so much
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>>173987734
I'm a Warden main who's fine with the nerf but lets not kid ourselves here lad. Without that SB Warden is probably worse than Orochi.
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>>173979413
The headbutt can't be cancelled you dumb cock sleeve. It's not the speed of the bash that matters it's the mixup it offers by forcing you to guess what it will be cancelled into, and even if you guess right you can't punish. Warden bash isn't hard to react to it's just not about reaction it's about guessing. Warlord is faster maybe, but if you react you are guaranteed a punish.

How are you too dumb to realize that?
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>>173988817
Warden mains are just fucking desperate to pretend their shit isn't broken.
I can't wait for the nerf and the tears
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>>173988767
Without it, Warden and Orochi play literally the same way, except Orochi deals more damage and his zone attack is safe on block.
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>>173989057
Yeah that's my point. Warden just becomes shit Orochi and the Top 4 stay the Top 4.
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>>173988506
Even better when you rekt one in a duel and they start crying that you spam attacks because they can't defend for shit.
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>Lawbringer getting a 50/50 off block is intended

DED GAEM
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>>173989323
MOVE BITCH GET OUT THE WAY
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>>173989323
it's not and they're fixing it
>>
>Finally pick up Valkyrie
>First match
>I HAVE UNLIMITED POWER, BOW DOWN TO ME

Is this... What pwoer.. Feel like?
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Lawbringer seems a little faster and I'm loving that light attack off parry. Satisfyingly vicious. Any other Lawmen enjoying themselves?
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>>173989540
>he didn't watch the stream

They specifically said that it being unblockable is intended, you're only allowed to dodge. They're fixing the inconsistency where you're -sometimes- allowed to block it.
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>>173989323
Not a 50/50 just a guaranteed light. you can cgb if they decide to gb
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>>173989323
LOL JUST USE UNBLOCKABLES ON HIM

>>173989540
Incorrect, it's not quite a 50/50 now because you can sometimes block the light depending on guard states when the shove connects. They're changing it so the light is always unblockable, but dodgeable, so it's a 50/50 between the light and a guardbreak.
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>>173989540
They're fixing the fact that you can only get the guaranteed light if you attack the direction they were holding before they got shoved
You'll be able to get any light attack, although you will be able to dodge it
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>>173989750
The light isn't guaranteed if you dodge. But if you dodge, they can GB you. So you have a choice of risking eating 15 damage, or risking eating a GB, and you have to guess what he's going for. That's a 50/50.

Unless you just stand there and let him chip you down with lights.
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>>173989640
He's more fun for sure, but it'd be nice if he had some kind of viable offense.

>>173989750
It's absolutely a 50/50. If you think he's going to light, you can dodge it. If you think he's going to GB, you don't dodge and can CGB. If you guess wrong he gets the light/GB. That's the definition of a 50/50.
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>>173989881
The real kicker is that if you dodge, guess wrong, and get GB, he gets a side heavy which goes straight back into the shove and 50/50 again.
As a law main, I think it's too much on a block, but still not enough to make the shove from neutral worthwhile. Way too easy to dodge and then you're wide open to untechable GB.
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>>173989893

He's a counter attack character. That being his specialty, it makes sense for his offense to be weak. You're meant to wait for them to come at you.
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>>173990056
The problem being that there's then no REASON for people to attack you. Counterattacking is an archetype that is dependent on the opponent to participate. You'd have to give him a passive that says he wins draws in duels or something stupid like that if you don't want him to have offensive options.
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>>173990363
Either that or give him actual baiting tools. Slow-ass feints you need to do super early in your attack animation don't work. He needs some way to force aggression.
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>>173990486
Yes, exactly.
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>mfw I worked out that the only people who complain about Conqueror are Peaceshitters who can't spam their light shit on fullblock.
>Enough of them got salty to get a shit character nerfed
lmao
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>>173984618
kiss ass
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>>173989570
Valk is OP as fuck, don't listen to the shitposters who say otherwise, it's totally broken.
>>
Anyone else having super shitty performance today? It's worked fine for me since release but suddenly I'm only getting 20-30 fps both in game and in menus instead of my usual 144. I've already tried restarting everything and haven't seen anyone else with sudden performance problems.

Did they release a hotfix or something last night that fucked everything up?
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>>173991303
I'm getting it too. It's literally unplayable right now.
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>>173943475
>needing more than a couple minutes to warm up
It must suck to be casual.
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>>173964229
You're prepared for it when they're not.
>dance around one another like faggots
>hit switch
>hop in
>strike
>hop out
>hit switch
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>Be in revenge mode
>Shove roach multiple times
>Doesn't fall
Like hell is this shit fixed Tbh.
>>
Someone just full caps pk light spam getting nerfed and vortex too, anyone got info on this?
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>>173989323
>>173989749
The Combo game for Lawbringer is going to be fierce. He's going to become the most aggressive character in the game aside from PK. It's a huge overstep from being a "counter-attacker"
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>>173993640
>most aggressive in the game.
Hardly. Shoving out of neutral is still just going to get you guard broken unless you're fighting morons.
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Someone give me a quick rundown of what was in the livestream. All I can pick up from the thread is that Warden is getting nerfed even though he's at a solid 50% winrate, and that Lawbringer is going to be the new Warlord.
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Why do people say you get a free gb on conq after dodging shield bash when this is not true at all?
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>>173995198
Lawbringer 50/50 is intended, getting fixed so the light is always unblockable (but dodgeable)

Warden vortex is getting changed, no details

PK light spam is getting a minor tweak

Shugoki charge is getting nerfed

Next big balance patch is in 2 weeks (3 for consoles), also comes with "huge" stability fixes

Faction War season reward will be "something worth fighting for"; if Knights win, the Samurai/Viking tiebreaker will be amount of war assets deployed
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>>173995503

Knights literally cannot win. We are forsaken.
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>>173995265
This is absolutely true and what's even worse is that conq can't defend himself for about a year after missing a bash meaning that any character with a side step attack gets that for free on him and everyone gets a free light
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>>173995640
God wills it
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>>173995503
>Law
That sounds fucking retarded.

>Warden
Depends on how badly its nerfed. If it's hammered too harshly, he'll just become an Orochi with less damage and unsafe zone. Tentatively okay with this, depending on whats getting changed.

>PK
Good.

>Shugoki
Good.

>Faction War
Who cares?

>>173995640
>>173995782
Can't retake the holy land without first losing the holy land. Cheer up Knightlads, you guys will have your time next season.
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>>173995648

I dunno, I tried it 5 times against a conq just now, GBd right after I dodged and he teched it every time. Are assassins excluded from that maybe?
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>>173995937
>>173995782

Doubt it. The heathen horde is strong and they are many.
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>>173995937
How did the faction which supposedly had 3 of the top 6 characters in the game for most of the season not manage to win any rounds?

Our God has forsaken us and so have the devs
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>>173996118
Because the faction war is pretty much RNG. And having top characters means nothing when every weeb has a Rep 3 PK in their pocket.
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>>173996118
Have you noticed how most PK mains have rectangle emblems?
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>>173996078
Are you playing on pc? If you're still console then you haven't got the patch yet

If you're pc then your timing must be off and you should be punishing with lights anyway
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Should I make the new thread already, or give it another couple dozen posts?
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I'm a Conq on console.

How much did the patch fucking ruin him? He's always been shit tier on console but when the patch is out he'll be unusable.
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>>173996206
>>173996213
Why is that? Is there a character like PK in some anime or something?
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>>173996353
>Always been shit tier on console
>Always
>been
>shit
>tier
>on
>console

You deserve the nerf
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>>173996353

hes much the same
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>>173996353
Basically your bash is unsafe as hell now, about as easy to punish as Law's shove.
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>>173996406
No, weebs just jumped ship from Orochi when they realized PK is better in every way.
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>>173996353
>always been shit tier
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>>173996416
>>173996496
Two people got #BONKEDBYCONQ and never got over it.
>>
Just got into a debate with some retard on my team who was incredibly insistent that law's top light is confirmed after a shove. Even after telling him that the hundreds of fights I've had since the update prove that he is wrong he just keeps going on about "muh /r/competitiveforhonor."
The best part is that he was an honorfag who just watched me fight a guy that was literally ganking me only seconds before.
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>>173996416
>>173996496
>Can't CBG whenever he does a heavy.
>Throw distance is garbage.
>Shield bash is safe but easily dodgeable.
>Revenge spam and "muh turtle" is OP but so is everyone else's and WL does that much better yet no one complains.
>Lowest damage (HARD HITTER LEL)
>Can't kill with a heavy.
>Has one opening.
>Parry 3 times for free kills.
>Several characters can kill him in 3 hits.
>Tracking on shield bash run is glitchy and fucked up.
>Allblock is glitchy and fucked up.
Yes
High tier
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>>173996353
He's trash now. Can't act after missed bashes. Lost his 30 damage heavy. Has the lowest average damage in the game by a long way now. Still has no combos. Can't full guard after a bash, recovers slower than other classes after being bashed now due to how that was implemented

He got about ten different nerfs.

I still play him anyway. All the other classes are gay corny bullshit
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>>173996750
>>173996750
>>173996750

migrate whenever

>>173996750
>>173996750
>>173996750
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>>173996774
I usually always play the worst characters in games unintentionally.

Conq was pretty much designed for me.
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Anyone wanna buy some salvage?
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>>173996926
Same. I was a link main in smash. I play ryu in sfv. I played Siegfried in SC.

I tend to play characters that make sense or aren't cheesy looking, but they're usually low tier as fuck
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>>173997109
I play SF in SC too.
And Juri in SFV. That's suffering I tell you
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>>173996353

mwaaaah poor conqy.
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>>173997345
Juri is okay. Infiltration plays her. There's potential there. Not even Valle plays Ryu anymore :(
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>>173997460
Stay bonked, kid.
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>>173993219
You have to let them complete the animation or else they will stand there ground. Its fucking gay because its like 2 missed attacks but if you want the heavy you have to wait.
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Are projectile weapons able to be blocked? What about warlord full block?
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>>173998425
Nop I tried with Conq when a Valk threw her gay stick at me. 1HKO.

I wouldn't be surprised if Faglord could do it though. He can do EVERYTHING Conq can but better, so why not?
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Is there any way to force ubisoft to fix the FUCKING ragequit-induced crashing?
This is fucking broken jesus motherfucking christ.
FIX THE FUCKING GAME
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>>173978553
>T-Crest
nice.
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