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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, April 13th:
1111 – Henry V is crowned Holy Roman Emperor.
1204 – Constantinople falls to the Crusaders of the Fourth Crusade, temporarily ending the Byzantine Empire.
1612 – Miyamoto Musashi defeats Sasaki Kojirō at Funajima island.
1829 – The Roman Catholic Relief Act 1829 gives Roman Catholics in the United Kingdom the right to vote and to sit in Parliament.
1941 – A Pact of neutrality between the USSR and Japan is signed.
1943 – World War II: The discovery of mass graves of Polish prisoners of war killed by Soviet forces in the Katyń Forest Massacre is announced, causing a diplomatic rift between the Polish government-in-exile in London from the Soviet Union, which denies responsibility.


>News
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# Mods
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>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
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>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
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>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
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Old Thread >>173827894
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>173901348
W&B
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monks and mystics download without account where
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>>173901417
Wount & Blade?
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>>173901348
kys
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>>173901348
I wish you were dead
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>>173901730
espioage
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>>173901730
influence
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>>173901730
espionage
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>>173901730
espionage
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>>173901730
espionage into coincidental funding of rebels across ottoman empire
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>>173901730
Religious obv.
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>>173901730
Aristocratic
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>>173901730
plutocratic ideas
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Should I form Qing yet?
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>>173901730
Naval
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>>173901951
>Plutocratic as a monarchy
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>>173901730
espionage basically this>>173901913
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>>173901987
No, take the mandate when they're exiled to Taiwan
>>173902003
not getting I meant pick idea groups so you can become a merchant republic
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>>173901730
>>173901992
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Is Ming based?
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Just got Darkest hour Kaiserreich. Which nation should I start with?
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>>173901730
Naval
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>>173902230
American Union State

Build wall
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>>173902206
based AND white
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>>173901992
>>173901730
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>tfw can't have fun playing Britain because my autism makes me annex everything not strapped down
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SOMEONE JUST GET A 5, I DON'T CARE IF IT'S FUCKING ESPIONAGE OR MARITIME, JUST GET A 5
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>>173902320
And make the syndies pay for it?
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>>173902230
ameriga
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>>173902387
heres an idea, suicide
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>the original taiwanese were islamic berbers
>White history will never tell you this
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religious
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>>173902472
>white history
>anything to do with Taiwan
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>>173901730
Maritime
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>>173900110
Play flavormod
If you say yes I'll release the next version early
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>>173902387
>>173902467
i wish but no it's clearly colonisation (see)>>173902472
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Alright lads, what county should I play in EU?

I'm not that great at the game, but I do something fun and is a bit of a challenge. Ideally I'd like to experience some of the DLC's new shit.

I've played a England game which was fun but I'm looking for something else now. Ideally in Europe though
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>>173902595
czech em
>>173902651
Portugal, save the med from the turk, carthago nova
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>>173902651
Korea is not that hard and kinda fun
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k lads
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>>173902736
I'm tempted to do Portugal but I always play them, I tend to play like 3 games non-Portugal and then a portugal game. I'm always so drawn to them. I'm going to try hold off on them
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>>173902651
poland
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>>173902595
winrar, Exploration ideas?
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>>173902913
play them, the age mechanics make them fun again, now you can get to japan before it's unified
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>>173902913
t. Alberto Barbosa
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>>173902942
Personally I think expansion would work better for ~Oman, but Exploration if you want to be gamey
MoH added some new music and it's just static in my headphone
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As tribal Catholic Scots do I need ships on the coast of wherever I'm attempting to raid to actually start the process? Nothing seems to be happening when I'm trying to raid the Orkney's and the Isle of Man with levies on foot.
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>>173903109
I was thinking expansion for the extra merchant and trade power, but I really need my admin points right now.
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>>173902651
Aragon
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>spend months making a sex mod for CK2
>only thing left to do is let you rape women after winning a siege or battle led by female commander
>Monks and Mystics comes out
>delete everything
Fuck Monks and Mystics for changing the game so much
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>>173902651
Ming
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Where is that mod that adds a ton of shit to HPM?

Pic unrelated
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>>173903194
It's been a while since I've play ck2 but you can only raid provinces that are next to yours as a tribal nation, and unless you are norse or berber you cannot use boats to raid.
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>>173902993
>the age mechanics make them fun again
Not him, but colonization in general with the +3 dev for colonized provinces during the age of exploration is pretty neat.
Makes me wanna play a colonial game, thinking about colonizing eastern america as portugal, get their two splendor things for colonization.
Then when the age of exploration is over I'd play as the colonial nation and later on form the usa.

Maybe cheeze it real bad and have france blob over Louisiana first and then form the USA for the 1000 ducat purchase event.
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>>173902913
Better than playing about an hour of a major, realizing it's too easy and going back to good old Byzantium for the nth time removing the Turk, because they're the only non-arab able to fuck them out of existence that early.
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Is playing with lucky nations disabled considered cheating? EU4
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>>173903461
for what reason.
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>>173903729
naeh, play with them on, off or random.
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How long do I have to colonise the philipines and east indies?
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Waiting around to be elected is boring desu so I restarted as opposition leading the country and immediately did this
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>>173903949
oh boy..

Click a province, open the institution window, hover over the monthly change and see what actually affects the spread
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>>173904023
>that jew in the corner
why
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>>173904070
All are things about neighbours, so mana invest it is for me
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>>173903461
And still you didn't share it with us. For shame.
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Wow they really did think about the code of this game.
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>>173904157
he is the one pulling the strings
(aka basically the tutorial advice kinda guy)
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>>173904201
>Yearly spreads per developments
Spread reason Base percentage
Port or Capital of a Colonial nation whose overlord has embraced Colonialism. 5.0
Has embraced Colonialism. 2.0
Present in friendly nearby province. 1.2
Port while present in non-friendly neighbor port. 0.5

>Yearly spreads
Spread reason Base percentage
Port or Capital of an old world country that has colonial subjects in the New World (North or South America). 10
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>>173904378
woah.,... sengoku... what a valiant cause for war
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Just banned the Socialist party and sent the police to arrest it's leader, now all my roads are being blocked but no fear, the military has been sent in.
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>>173904781
What is the war like in this game
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Second idea group fro shizhamzu already got exploration
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>>173904870
If you kill your enemies, they win
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>>173905004
yes.
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>Implying international law has any say in the United Kingdom
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>my brother is being invaded by savage pagan Irishmen
>I have twice his men standing by
>Won´t accept an alliance because of "political concerns"
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Lads, which one should I pick?
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>>173905004
that special mechanic is probably reserved only for canada and germany
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>>173905128
good job lad, now kick the golliwogs out
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>>173905128
>20% approval rating
>Protests and riots by nignogs
Y-you're not going to let that continue, right?
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>>173905128
game?
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:^)
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>>173905690
end your life, kraut charlatan
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Which ideas should I pick as Shimazu going into japan, already got exploration
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>>173905690
Schlecht!
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So how the fuck are you supposed to take China if this is all you can get every 25 years?
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>>173905985
get more absolutism
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>>173905128
tell the EU to fuck off
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;^)
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>>173906104
I can't understand this shit, do I have 0 absolutism or 95?
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>>173905985
You´re not. Paradox has no idea how Chinese politics work
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>>173906619
I haven't played during Age of Absolutism, but you quite obviously have a Max of 95, while you have 0 actual absolutism.
Stop increasing Autonomy.
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>>173906619
he mispelled it, he meant you need more autism
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what the hell is my liege doing
>tfw I took the Pisa count start thinking it'll be easy
>liege only keeps getting more and more powerful
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>>173907001
It's the norm now for Lombardy to not die and expand into Africa, whilst the franks do nothing so it's just a merry go round with the Muslims who never break now because decadence is too hard
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is steel divison gs? a wargame?
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At the start of 1626 the horde state of Oirat, one of out many tributaries, decided to politely request we return land that they feel is rightly their's, we chose not even to respond to the rambling, as there is no Question that Ulaangom is, was, and always will be Chinese.
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>>173907387
Can someone make an event that combines two families like the Iberian for Japan
As ueseugi were my allies but now I can't peacefully annex them
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>>173904023
>>173904157
Is that John "Current Year" Oliver?
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>>173907527
Whodid your form qing as
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>tfw Ming war reps

Their troops are made of paper maché but their dosh is still great
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>>173905639
pls respond
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What is the best retinue composiution in CK2
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>you will NEVER be head of a band of mongolian mercenaries tasked with clearing out Siberia of natives for future chink colonisation
feels bad lads
>>173907815
Manchu.
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>>173907884
Geo-Political Simulator.
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>>173908023
heavy cavalry

only heavy cavalry
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>>173908023
2 pike 1 skirmish
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How do you discover the Americas as horse chinks? I get no option to explore East Pacific. Do you have to crawl through the Siberias until the game decides you can send ships that little bit further?
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>>173908023
Pikes and bows
>>173908231
And you formed Manchu as?
>>173908274
English longbows were better when that was a thing so you've always been wrong
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>>173908437
Pick exploration ideas
Unlock 'quest for the new world' then go colonise the phillipines
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>>173904023
game?
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>>173908635
>>173908272
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>>173905639
Geopolitical Simulator 4
>>173905205
In the process my friend
>>173905440
I'm sending in the army to all the protests to subdue the nigs
Just finished up in Newcastle and London but now there's more in Glasgow and Bristol
The road blockages are a temporary nuisance until I can take full control
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>>173908787
is this game some kind of a meme or is it actually good
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Is it worth it to backdate to before Horse Lords in Crusader Kings 2?
Seems like they've added nothing but trash and clutter since then, and I long for the proper Golden Horde and Ilkhanate.
Anybody else backdated anywhere or do y'all think they've made it better?
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>>173908608

I do have quest for the new world. Is it really mandatory to go through SEA? That seems silly if I just want to get to North America.
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>>173908446
>pick for your elite guard, to commit to the fray when your plebeian rabble collapses:
>A) faggy peasants with longbows that compensate for their small penises
>B) gods amongst men on armored horses and lethal lance


no wonder your vassals are always trying to revolt
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Just got eu4, used to play a lot of eu3. What are some good uses of admin diplo and military mana? Dumped all my admin points into stability so far, dont really know what to do with the other two, and seeing them pile up feels like a waste. Buy base manpower and production points with it?
Also, don't really know what ideas to choose later, but leaning towards innovative since tech is op in every single paradox game.

Playing ottermen.
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>>173908023
Depends on the surronding area.

IF you're in plains, go with lots of cavalry, ect
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>>173909126
Pile them up, you'll mostly use them in random events
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>>173908023
>>173908274
>>173908446
Cataphracts
Lots of cataphracts
Hadn't done a Byzzie run since before they changed the retinue system, but I managed to get a 20k stack of cataphracts and nothing could stop me, I took only like 30 casualties when storming the toughest of castles as well
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>>173909126
>Playing ottermen.

Do whatever. You can't lose unless you somehow trigger a world-wide coalition.
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>>173908958
You CA not only explore as far as your colonial range is
And if you stay in Asia even with all the buffs you cannot colonise America itself
Go through phillipnes>>173909018
>he has shitty serfs
>his vassals are despots and hoard land
Yeomans are based
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>>173909326
so, when you take a single province then?
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Pla Lata
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>>173909284
Alright, thanks.
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>>173909448
If Rome yes
If the whole of Niger no
>>173909308
>offer advice you know is wrong
Shattered retreat combat favours pikes because of how quickly everyone breaks now
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Bitch how I had London fucking locked down

Oh well

Where and how to meme it up next lads?
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>>173908787
can you genocide/expulse minorities in that game? can you ban islam and other shit?
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>>173909669
Dont think so on the minorities but you can outright ban religions and persecute them yes
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>>173909647
>playing with shattered retreat
Also I didn't know it was wrong, I knew might be outdated though
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>>173909445

Seems retarded but alright, thanks. Time for the manchurians to terrorize the rest of Asia.
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good crusade
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>>173901987
>>173905985
>>173906619
>>173907527
>>173908231
Pic is my Manchu in 1511. I think I am too slow. Can you tell me your strategy please?
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>>173908446
Jianzhou.
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>>173909326
even then, if you have france allied you can break peace whenever you want
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Yall mind if I..... MAGA?
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>>173909974

So it's not just my game then, horde unity really doesn't fire the disaster anymore. All it does now is fuck your discipline and unrest.
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pisa stop
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>>173909974
Nah, I was at the same level, it's a long process, I have only conquered 3/4ths of China proper and it's already 1636 in my game.
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>>173910230
I should probably form Qing after I finish my next war. I'm not sure if the shock bonus in open terrain is worth -10% discipline.
Also even if I won't be a horde anymore, Ming will stay at 0 mandate because they're losing too much.
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>>173909974
Aggressively expand into your surrounding tribes and Korea until you hit 300 dev and then go after Ming using a shitload of banner units.
Your first war against Ming should be fought before 1460 and then you keep waging it until they get the unguarded frontier disaster. Then you take as much land as you can in the peace, wait for the truce to expire before taking as much land as you can again. Repeat this until Ming is gone. Use the truce times to grab yourself tributaries and then when you have enough take the mandate from Ming in one of the later wars.
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>>173910245
You should stop trying to halt your fellow Catholics progress against the Moors
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>>173910485
He most definitely is.
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>>173910578
well I wouldn't if it weren't for this
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The worst trade deal in the history of trad deals
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>>173909826
Even if you turn it off combat still is retarded
>lol you lost the close combat even though you were twice as large with all troops types now you'll flee and die
>>173909917
It's a pleasure
>>173909947
Every crusade for Jerusalem for me has failed because the abbassids never break anymore
>>173910485
>scat
>not german
You high m8
>>173910578
>Tunisia
>Moore
Nope Berbers m8
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didn't notice the scat instantly with the abundance of eu4 posting as of late
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>>173909974
>>173910458

If you're not confident that you can take Ming on or they're already take mil tech 6, refuse to pay tribute until they break tributary status and just wait. Improve relations and get a royal marriage too. As long as they like you, they will be unwilling to fight you but the disaster will still tick up since you're not a tributary or ally. Shit all over them when you feel like their mandate has taken enough. The penalties are scaled so they won't take the full +50% damage unless they're at 0% mandate.
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>>173910332
>>173910458
Thanks. It's mostly the same as what I'm trying to do. But it's so painful. China has a lot of development so it feels slow. I hope it's worth all these corruption, loans and rebels.
I got exploration as second idea and will start colonizing now.
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aren't there like
mods
or something
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Tried Ottomans in EU4 for the first time. Still managed to bankrupt myself. Vassal Crimea now has over 50 LD, rebels all over the place, France accepts alliance but then breaks it every month, Austria already beat some land out of me and a coalition is starting to get brave enough to form.

Wat do?
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>Steamcordplaza has loads of scat saved on their computer
Why am I not surprised
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>>173910458
how the FUCK did you take all of china before 1600
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>>173911223
There are but they know the autist will just keep her refreshing his router until he finished the album
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>>173911303
Uninstall EU4, play CK2 or Vic 2 instead. EU4 is a shitty game for pretentious faggots who are obsessed with ahistorical blobbing.
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>>173911303
Kill yourself for failing to do this
Ottomans are easier than Castille that has 10 missions of rail road
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>>173911369
guess I'm fucking off then

not really like this place has anything to offer nowadays anyway
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>>173910646
HOW DOES HE DO IT
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>>173911359
How do you not? Provinces are cheap as fuck with the take mandate cb. Just go over 100% overextension once or twice. The cores come fast and you should have a large standing army to smack down all separatists.
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>>173911539
New content
We just got dlc m8 and I want to code PU for Japanese
>>173911546
Holy orders and mercs
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>>173911359

Not him, but Mandate of Heaven CB lets you take lots of shit at no cost. Just don't take the mandate itself.
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>We spend billions of dollars on foreign aid to countries that send us only terrorists in return
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>>173911638
>tfw been using conquest this whole time
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I THOUGHT THE MANDATE CB WAS ONYL FOR THE MANDATE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173911145
You should have paid off your loans after the first war against Ming as you can take a lot of their money for very little warscore.
You've got their mandate at zero though so you've pretty much won. Just keep hammering them and don't take the mandate for yourself until you have a decent number of tributaries otherwise you will be reaping the negative modifiers of low mandate while Ming will be free of them.
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>>173911303
Ottomans are the easiest country. You're definitely doing something wrong. Watch some let's plays videos.

Keep your stability positive (use administrative power to get stability +1 or +2, +3 costs too much).

You shouldn't need so many forts as the Ottomans.

If you're not good at fighting rebels, raise autonomy in newly conquered provinces so that they won't revolt.

Avoid taking too many loans because the interest will add up and you won't be able to get rid of the debt.
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>>173911751
But the casus beli only affects the war goal?
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Been playing Holland in ck2, still Friscan culture around 1050. Do I have to be controlled by Germany to go Dutch? If I change cultures do I lose the Huscarl Armories I've built or are they converted?
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>>173911782
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>tfw brandenburg
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oh man , what happened here
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Just gonna try to ignore all the literal shitposting itt and post a very important poll:

I want to try out NWO 2 (Darkest Hour) but not sure who I should be, so I narrowed it down and am now asking for a final answer:

http://www.strawpoll.me/12741161
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Get fucked muslims and other third world shitholes
Brb desu going out to eat
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>>173911850
I found out why I was slow. I've been using tribal conquest instead of mandate CB. If only I read the tooltip I could have taken more provinces and more gold to pay the loans.
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>>173912010
No it doesn't. I'm pretty sure its the same as the Unify China cb and gives 50% off province cost and AE.
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>>173912010

Not really. Tribal Feud lets you take provinces at no diplo cost. It's how hordes blob with no advisors.
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So how easy is it to create an alternate start date that mixes the borders up a bit?

I'm thinking of doing a run of a mod (maybe Winter King), and then changing the borders for an alternate start date for vanilla.
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>>173912337
Is that Louis Thorax or old Steve Terreberry in the corner?
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Gore spam: Nice

Anyway, is there a console command in Victoria 2 that instantly westernizes countries? I want to make a save with all civilized country and see what happens.
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>this thread
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>>173912621
Get that faggot shit out of here.
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>>173912186
>play Brandenburg
>try to take a few provinces from Pomerania
>"who no, king ngunda of Ethiopia has formed a coalition against you in fear of your war mongering!"
>the world, jesus, the aliens from predator, and the fucking ming dynasty has decided now is the time to join the renaissance NATO in order to stop Brandenburg taking 2 provinces from Pomerania
>"the world has declared war on you!"
>alt-f4 and play ck2 venetian merchant
>die of plague
>new doge declares war on the Amalfi and basically gets rofl stomped, losing half our venetian trade ports
>he then gets annexed by Byzantium because he pissed them off
>alt-f4 and play hearts of iron 4 instead
>Germany has decided to declare war on the world in 1939, and has shuffled his entire eastern army to Africa because he REALLY REALLY wants the suez
>the soviets are too busy shuffling their armies from Poland to manchuko to bother attacking the gaping hole in the lines
>the japs are somehow being navally invaded by china
>alt-f4
>cry for a bit
how have they fucked up their games so much?
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>want to play sex mods
>all the images used are shit
>>
based cobrah
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>>173912807
What mods? Just get an imagination.
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>>173912807
>want to play event mods for ck2
>all the good ones are attached to big mega mods like HIP
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>>173912737
>coalition meme
I knew I shared the General with shit eaters but I didn't think they were that bad at this game
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>>173912935
>grand strategy
Did you really have to ask?
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>>173912935
Because HPM left us
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>>173909126
>Dumped all my admin points into stability
I'd only buy stability with admin up to +1.
The extra cost isn't worth it.
Later on you'll get to +3 with stability events frmo lvl3 advisors.
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I used a gold province to spam development on to spawn renaissance in Japan, and my income shot up by about 10 ducats a month. I had no idea developing gold provinces was so OP.
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>>173913041
please, coalitions have gone on steroids since the latest dlc's and patches

you can't even take a single fucking province without half the world DOWING you
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>>173912935
>can stop Prussia ever forming
>can reform the stagnant bureaucracy of the ERE
Why wouldn't that invite autism
>>173913130
>Japan has gold
Wtf I thought they removed that in the patch, none of my provinces have gold
Is it event?
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>>173913251
>Wtf I thought they removed that in the patch, none of my provinces have gold
Is it event?
Yeah. Kai used to always have gold, now it spawns by event. Not sure if it is random, but that is the second time I have had it spawn in Iwami
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>>173912578
Please Respond
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>>173913146
You know the more members the more likely that Cold War goes hot
>>
I'm just gonna post the link again if yall didn't happen to see it:

http://www.strawpoll.me/12741161

http://www.strawpoll.me/12741161

http://www.strawpoll.me/12741161
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>>173913375
edgy
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>tfw died just before I could switch away from elective Gavelkind
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>>173913102
>>173913071
>my post discussing the general gets removed
>this faggot spamming scat and gore isnt banned yet
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>>173912879
Dark world and its submods

I replaced a bunch of images for an older version but now I cant update or get any new submods without having to replace all the images again. So I am stuck with the old versions
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>>173909126
Research, ideas, stability, leaders, mercantilism, development
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>a flag so good Monarchists, communists and Fascists can all agree on it
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>>173913690
Very.
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Is there anything wrong with this Europe?
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>>173913792
You are like a child...
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Yeah, this is the second time I have seen gold spawn in Iwami and Echigo provinces, so I think that is where they always appear. Might be a good idea to use those to spawn renaissance/colonialism, even if the gold isn't there yet.
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>>173913690
Yes but don't tip the gore spammer off to that unless you want to see more shit.
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>>173913907
You really should delete this
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>>173914152
Why tho? You don't have context.
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This new building menu is really nice.
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Is there a strategy for quickly acquiring Imperial Authority? It seems like there are far fewer ways to obtain it now than the last time I played Austria.
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>>173902324
>that pic
>asian female waifu 4 you?

meanwhile, this was pretty interesting:
was finally able to get war into poland without getting england involved...
delcared war, allied with italy and called them in,
therefor soon the greek war got annex with my poland war, in less than a month I was rolling over then,
allies couldn't participate since poland had its own faction
but somehow france got called in(?????wtf????)
was able to finish the war, everybody surrended, called peace conference and whatnot, I got poland, italy got greece
but war with france continued and now the rest of allies got called in
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>>173913342
>>173912578
who is the whore?
please respond!
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>>173902324
Asians have fucking unreal skin texture.
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>>173912621
>tfw lolled my ass off
I need to know sauce!, plz anon
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>>173914579
Make your Kings generals so they die faster
Or just abdicate
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>>173908942
It's all about personal preference, but I played a 2.4.5 game after Conclave was released and I'm really enjoying what Reaper's Due has added in for province growth and cutting down needless characters. M&M needs patches to be good, because half of it is shit
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>>173914949
Uchuu Kyoudai
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How the fuck do I play as Kurdistan in HPM? Is there an option to do so if I play as Ottomans or Persia? I tried changeownering all cores but still can't release it.
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>>173902913
I play Aragon at war with France and Castile and enemies of the pope while Forming New Rome keeping anything bordering the Mediterranean and 1 province in and the rest are vassals. At war with every major almost constantly and removing the Sunni from rightful Christian land.
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When will there be a meaningful update that improves the game?
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>>173915325
fuck man i know she is genetically different but with that blond hair and blue eyes she looks like on of my own
Is the concept of race a meme?
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>>173915564
never, considering that by the looks of it the next hoi4 update is TFV axis version
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>>173915564
At this rate? 2020.
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>>173915684
She's literally the same race as you.
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>>173913792
Which mod is giving these thick border lines?
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>>173915684
It's a spook
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>>173915564
never, never, .
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Who wins, fascists or communists?
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>>173915879
how? She is a breed of kurds, if i were to have a child (with her adult self ov course) the child would most likely be brown
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>>173915684
Literally every single human is genetically different than you
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>>173915564
i honestly was disappointed with the dev diary, after 1 month of no diaries they give us a national focus for romania .
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>>173916164
>modern day eu4
consider suicide.
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>>173916164
>Gran Colombia in 1962
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>>173916176
Kurds are Aryan you retard
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>>173916390
*considers suicide*
*decides against it*
your move, "lad"
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>>173916624
Don't talk for me.
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>>173915684
>>173916110
>>173916236
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>>173916806
Who are you, sorry?
>>
Why the FUCKING FRENCHS/GERMANS steal my precious lands on NORTH AFRICA in EVERY FUCKING GAME???
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>it's the "diseases ruin another fucking run" episode again
which fucking retard thought this shit was a good idea?
I thought games were supposed to be fun, but this seems to be made by a person who hates life itself and wished nothing but suffering upon others
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>>173917013
Just turn it all off or make most diseases rare
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>>173902594
I'll play your mod one day, but HoI3 is such a fucking hassle to get into, then it only lasts a week.
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>>173917013

Stop giving everything to the clergy.
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>>173917203
what? I waste nothing on religion but I sure as hell am not going to waste money on those fucking hospitals which most often end up being useless than actually doing anything

>>173917095
doesn't turning it to rare disable ironman?
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>>173917000
I hate this meme but "git gud"

If you colonize it ASAP you'll get it before the AI
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How do I pull the US out of the conflict with ISIS?
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-alOMXrYVZyZ0NHVVVwa0NEUlk

Did you put it in the archives yet? Shit or not its a HoI2 based game.
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>>173917429
Unilaterally
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>>173917361
so what if it disables ironman, do you really want 80% of the world to catch paradox cancer?
>>
>>173917429
>not playing ISIS
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>>173917563
I want muh cheevos
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>>173917527
>>173917576
Well I don't think I can officially sign a peace treaty since they aren't a """real""" country, so I'm just going to bring the troops home
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>>173917686
Wait nevermind I did it
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>>173916236
woah

Your family is genetically different from you, your race is an extension of your family. For example, if you live in Europe you're probably less than 10 generations removed from your neighbours, but you're hundreds of generations removed from Africans. Our race evolved and adapted to suit our environment, we are unique in our areas of the world and that fact should be cherished and protected, not destroyed through apathy and malice.
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>>173917429
Help Assad against IS.
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>>173917429
Is that fucking current year guy on the lower right? Why is he in the game?
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>>173918134
I signed peace my friend
>>173918245
He's like a tutorial/tips kind of jew that I am imagining as the one pulling the strings of my puppet government
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>>173918342
For fucks sake, lad, who will defend sedular Arab nationalism now?
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>>173918489
Perhaps I can fund Assad with the money I saved taking international aid away from all other third world countries. I just don't personally want my troops involved
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>>173918565
Do it. Bigly.
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>>173918643
Arranged a meeting to talk with him, gonna see how that goes
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>>173918489
Nobody. Opportunity to fix them is gone forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX4RK8bj2W0
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Any mod recommendations for HoI4?

I've been playing vanilla alot but want change things up a bit

Mods like Kaiserreich and Black Ice look great but seem mostly unfinished

I'm not sure what to look for
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>>173918982
A rope.
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Alright /gsg/ I'm a grand strategy newbie and I was wondering if I should pick up HoI4+DLC, I like the era but I don't want to dive in if it's shit.
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>>173918818
Gaddafi wasn't exactly secular (still fought Islamists) and he managed to make his country based, was he /our guy/?
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>>173919060
its shit
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>>173919092
RIP
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>Propose outlawing homosexuality and abortion
>The law passes
Wew
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>>173919060
Fun game, good as an entry. go for it
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I just started an Austria game and the Burgundy inheritance fired in 1450 but Castile got it instead of me.
Why did this happen?
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>>173919060
It's shit, don't buy anything from paradox, pirate all games+DLC.
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>>173919092
One one hand both Saddam and Gaddafi didnt give two shits about religion.
On the other hand they were placed there so Arabs wouldnt cooperate as much after 1973 oil crisis so they never fixed themselves.
Also they cockblocked islamic gommunism, and you can bet your ass gommies would put those islamists in check
>>
Apparently, the -100% cost of war taxes splendor thing actually puts the cost in the negative so you get 5 sword mana every time you raise taxes. Neat.
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>>173919092
>Montenegro is as green as Slovenia
They literally got nothing except for smugglers and tourism
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>>173919553
t. slovenia pro
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>>173919457
Gaddafi was only deposed because he wanted paying in Gold instead of monopoly money, now the US literally has mercenaries guarding the oil fields whilst the country tears itself apart, and it is NEVER mentioned in the western media.
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>>173919092
>argentina is as green as e europe
at least they got something right
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>>173919726
Thats the price of capitalism i guess.
Its not like its not obvious what was up from the start. Allies winning ww2 was a mistake
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>>173919457
>and you can bet your ass gommies would put those islamists in check

That worked well in Afghanistan
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>Tfw I haven't even done anything to the spics
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>>173920057
It was Cold War, do you think USA wouldnt double down on it? Hell, Mujahedin officially met Reaggan in White House and were good guys in Rambo III.
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>>173919885
boi you better say axis should have won

Really though, Mussolini fostered Arab nationalism in Libya, the ALY for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Lictor_Youth

Neither the comintern nor the allird would have been good for the ME, daddy Hitler would have encouraged secular Arab nationalism.
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Anyone have any ideas what to put in my retarded mod
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>>173920362
LAD fund assad already
and let norks take over the south
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>>173920481
>not using articles

Well I don't know how else do you think islamic gommuism should've come to the mid east
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>>173920627
Are you really back?
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>>173920750
yeah I just forgot how to use tripcodes for a minute
I do have to go to basic training in like a month though but I figure I might as well do some modding first
>>
alright faggots, here is to check up on the
>mah artillery
meme,
side by side division comparison, with a variety of artillery, anti-air + anti-tank
vs only infantry units plus support
it basically reduces status all across the board, with exception only of soft and hard attack,
so it may be better for offensive but one has to balance, usage
the way I see it, support units grant great advantages of the type without dragging down the whole divisions with it
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>>173920525
Its more of an ideology thing, if fascists won whole world would be comprised out of secular populist dictatorships that would try to wave dicks around each other.
And nationalism sure pushes people to actually make a difference in life.
>>173920697
>Nasser unites everything
>adopts Yugoslavian principles because Tito was a big guy back in the day
>>173920839
Where is the arrow designer?You should pick a color for easier victory.
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>>173920642
Sending him $25 billion a year
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>>173920908
>implying pan arabism hasn't been tried and failed regardless of cold war politics
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>>173920805
where the FUCK have you been
Also, I played your mod and it's pretty good except:
Zoup starts with no techs at all, so can't fight even niggers.
Half the localisstion is missing.
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>>173920941
>send him 25 billion
>cant even win
wat the fuck
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>>173920941
>>173921128
Also working out a deal to ship him fighter jets, tanks, and missiles desu
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Which are the must have expansions for CKII and EUIV?
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>>173920908
>the end goal of fascism was perpetual war
no

Look at Mosley, Mussolini, Rivera, the only hawk was Hitler and that was because the Poles refused to hold referendums in the corridor and then Britain declared war.

If you let commies rule they'd just create an international LGBBQWTF superstate and gas anyone who stored more than an ounce of grain. National Socialism combines the best of conservative social policies, economic protectionism, minor capitalism, socialism, nationalism and ebin uniforms, how can other ideologies compete?
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>>173921510
just pirate all of them
except conclave, that's shit
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Streaming live and raw vicci 2 modding
twitch /buttsong
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>>173921210
Based. How are the rebels? Are they even represented in this game?
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>>173921616
>If you let commies rule they'd just create an international LGBBQWTF superstate and gas anyone who stored more than an ounce of grain
please go back to red.dit if you dig
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>>173913342
who is this
>>
>>173921510
100 Years War Unit Pack
Horsemen of the Crescent Unit Pack
Conquistadors Unit Pack
Native Americans Unit Pack
Colonial British and French Unit Pack
Muslim Advisor Portraits
Native Americans II Unit Pack
Muslim Ships Unit Pack
Trade Nations Unit Pack
Indian Ships Unit Pack
Indian Subcontinent Unit Pack
Catholic League Unit Pack
Evangelical Union Unit Pack
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>>173921661
Conclave is good though.
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>>173921510
>Victoria II
>2 expansions
>actually make the game better and add new shit
>CK2
>13 DLCs and more infinite cosmetic packs
>only shit that should've alrady been on the game and bloat
>ends up making the game worse every 3 or 4 DLCs
I hate paradox
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>>173920986
>implying it didnt fail specifically because of cold war politics
Neither Soviets nor Mmuricans wanted big united arab state to throw muscle around for big favors.

Also blame Brits and French for fucking up whole Middle East and India even more in the first place.
>>173921616
>>the end goal of fascism was perpetual war
I didnt say that. I stated that it pits nations vs each other in every aspect of life and such competitiveness is a good thing. Nowadays people do mundane things and feel stranded with no goal up life.
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>>173921813
>gommies dont support LGBBQWTF
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Is there any fix to Mali being more advanced than Eastern Europe every game?
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>>173922062
Mods, yeah, but paradox will never fix it becauze to make it realistic would be admitting Europe was more advanced than Africa, which would offend the sensebilities of their more "progressive" fans.
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>>173922030
i never said they didn't, it's just that you type like a tryhard reddit poster.
also communism will win
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>>173921868
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>>173922030
Only today, on western liberal universities. Gays were shot in the USSR and Cuba
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>>173922157
Syndie for lyf
Gommies suck dick
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>>173922262
wrong fucking thread
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>>173922207
Stalin was based, but he was only based because he ended the retarded social policies of the JewSSR, he banned abortion, supported the church, banned gays, promoted nationalism, he was the antithesis to the Jewish rule before him.
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>>173922403
but its a grand strategy game right? why the fuck wouldnt it be in the grand strategy general?
seems as retarded as the fallout general splitting into "classic fallout" and 'new fallout'
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>>173922445
Fuck off, Joe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh378oyTQWQ
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>>173922287
Literally the same thing.
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wew
t. merkel
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>>173922287
>implying syndicalism isn't just a stepping stone to communism
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>>173921743
They are represented pretty well actually.
It takes into account what cities they own and has military bases scattered over the map.
Since that deal came through to give him military supplies he has been retaking some small towns
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>>173922575
no, it's not grand strategy, it's a 4x and it belongs in the 4x general
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>>173922023
>Blaming """"The West"""" for failing to sustain unsustainable federations

Arabs are too culturally different to have a singular "Arab" state.

Even so, your point is still invalid. Islamic Gommunism was tried in South Yemen, AKA where ISIS has its strongholds.

also

>Also blame Brits and French

Syria & Palestine were historical regions of the area, and Iraq aka mesopotamia was merged from 3 states of the Ottoman Empire, of which were created to be centered around economic factors. But I guess you were already going to blame capitalism for that
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>>173913103
is this up to date
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>>173922580
*puts jewish nation wreckers in gulag*
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>>173922575
It's a 4x game so it belongs in the 4x thread.
4x is a more precise term than grand strategy, therefore it goes there.

If we hade a Victoria 2 general as well as a grand strategy general, then the victoria 2 games would go in the victoria 2 general, despite being grand strategy.
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>>173922641
How do you make them your ally like Iraq, Turkey, and Israel?
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why the fuck does everyone show with 0 and no actual positives/negatives?
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>>173922287
>implying syndicalism isn't a more autistic version of communism
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>>173921616
Mussolini was a huge hawk, and a pretty retarded one of that, plus nice to see that you forgot the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact.
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>>173922910
I generally just have to sway their opinion of the US like I have been doing. They hate me significantly less now than they did before.
I also just decided that Syria doesn't seem capable of winning on it's own even with all my aid, so I'm going in, boys
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>>173916275
and even then it literally looked like some shit a modder put together
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>>173922871
well last time I was here like half a year ago the 4x general did not exist and stelaris was discussed here so you can see why the fuck I would not search for a 4x general
Still think it is completely elitist retardation to split the shit up because this just feels like every other paradox grand strategy so far for me
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>>173923163
>mussolini was a hawk
>literally did not want war and joined extrmeley reluctantly on the promise of mass gains from germany
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>>173923186
Declare on IS or rebels? Also, why is Jordan not a puppet?
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>>173923302
>well last time I was here like half a year ago the 4x general did not exist and stelaris was discussed here
No that's a lie because half a year ago I was discussing master of magic and stellaris in the /civ4xg/ while discussing eu4 in this general.

You're most likely the same shitposter who tries to discuss stellaris here like every third thread and then acts dumbfounded why you're redirected to the other general.
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>>173923464
Declared on the Syrian Rebels and ISIS
Also Jordan just chilling idk
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>>173922647
Arabs were just fine under Ottomans until roaches decided to fuck with Muhammad Ali by ignoring all the promises they gave him for support during Greek independence war.
And Sykes–Picot Agreement in 1916 really did fuck things up since Brits and French didnt give a damn about religions there.
>>173923019
Because they dont border Turks and have no reason to assist you and theyre not interested in favor mechanic.
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>>173923350
>Ethiopia
>Albania
>Greece
France at least had the basic excuse of kicking them while they were down, and Mussolini would probably have declared war on Yugoslavia had he been left on his own devices.
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>>173923783
Oh my bad, its Genoa?
Its also a christian nation so even less reasons for them to assist you.
Also unless you joined HRE expect Emperor on your ass.
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>I bomb Syrian Rebels one time and my approval drops to 0
wtf
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>>173924001
pretty realistic tb.h
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>>173923921
Yeah, didn't think about that. Touché.
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Is there a good WW2 game that isn't exclusively focused on the warfare aspect like HoI4?
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>>173924001
>(((polls)))
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>>173924001
You should bomb their forces, not the civs.
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>>173924141
Fuck this semen slurping game
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>>173924247
CURRENT YEAR
U
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R
E
B
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Y
E
A
R
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>>173924296
post webms of Combat
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>>173924296
based
fuck drumpf
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>>173924296
Now RP as a globalist and support the rebels, demand Crimea is returned to Ukraine and go to war with Iran before they get a nuke.
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>>173924001
This is not realistic, Obama bombed civilians daily and he didn't have a poplarity debuff because of that
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>>173924296
Where do you buy this game and is it worth buying?
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>>173923921
>literally did not want war and joined extremely reluctantly on the promise of mass gains from germany
He was right you know. Italians were overextended as fuck in 1940.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqoOk5nZEKw
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>>173924296
>trump won't be impeach-
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>>173924296
I wonder who could be behind this
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>>173924496
That doesn't explain Greece nor gives credence to the idea that Mussolini wasn't a hawk.
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>>173924296
FUCK DRUMPF!
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>>173923783
>Arabs were just fine under Ottomans
lmaowut
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Oy Vey
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woah woah woah, i'm at 1700 in my first game of EU4 as the classic Vijayanagar with all of the new expansion shit installed (I uninstalled after launch but my friend told me the game was now actually better than EU3) and

1. the entire world is basically at the same tech level, it's stupidly easy to keep up in tech by abusing development mechanics to get institutions at the same time they spawn in Europe
2. 2 of the institutions were found outside of Europe. Enlightenment was rooted in fucking Yarkand, lmao.
3. Ming won't stop fucking asking me to be tributary even though I have more soldiers than they do at this point
4. the random new world generation sucks fucking ass and has stupid memeshit like the super aztecs from the ck2 joke expansion
5. somehow France is fighting with my colonial nations, taking their land and there is nothing i can do about it, can't intervene in the war or anything
6. Turks are stupid OP

how the fuck did I get memed into thinking Parajews were going to get their shit together?
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>>173925291
>my friend told me the game was now actually better than EU3
he lied
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>>173925195
Fund IS in Syria so you can then take over Syria to "protect against IS"
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Apparently I'm the only one with this bug about EU4 not ending in 1821.
I'll keep playing just to dismantle the Ottomans.
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he just keeps going
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>>173925935
>Apparently I'm the only one with this bug about EU4 not ending in 1821.
There's an option to continue the game after the end date on the end screen
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>>173925570
I already flat out invaded Palestine, plan on more soon
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>>173920805
What about the stuff I suggested when you were drunk right before you disappeared?
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>>173926193
>not using chinanery
What's the point in playing as Jews if you're just going to blob?
Fund Hezbollah in Lebanon so you can take them over for their own good as well.
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>>173926321
Just taking rightful Jewish clay my friend
The fun begins now
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>>173926153
That's the thing, I don't get that prompt.
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>>173926250
He's gone again, lad.
What did you suggest?
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>get called into revolt against my doge
>sure why not
>he outnumbers us
>go kill some 300 troops that were raised on my territory
>capture him
>100% warscore
damn guys, tought revolt huh
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>>173926524
Ironman?
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FUCK
Should I savescum? I didn't want this event until I was Emperor
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>>173926871
You're trying to get a Christian Sino-Nippon empire?
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>>173926815
Yep. I can even get easy achievements this way.

On another note I just noticed how good Marches are if you don't want to expand in a direction ever. My march makes claims like a madman and the fact it's in the middle of my rival makes dismantling it even better.
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EU4 players, can you tell me why you genuinely enjoy playing EU4?

I have 1k hours in the game or so so im not even shitting on it for no reason, but the game is just insanely boring, am i wrong?

>no economy
>no real management
>no pops
>combat is nothing special
>a lot of features but no depth

After moving on to V2 and DH i cannot for the life of me play EU4. There's just literally nothing to do, its just map staring in between wars, basically waiting for timers to expire.

How the ufck do you guys still enjoy it?
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>>173926535

>Precursor to Rhodesia that you can play on day 1
>Jewish Madagascar/New Israel
>Liberia flavor and sending all USA niggers to Liberia
>Flavor for Organized European colonies in Africa
>Package Africamod like a normal fucking mod
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>>173927158
I don't in the slightest, I just play it because I have nothing to do in V2 after 2.5k hours
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>>173927158
Meiou is fun. Its hard to blob and the AI jumps on you randomly. Lots of events. Once youre done with your blob you can shape vassals and countries around you at will. 2.0 looks fucking amazing, a better version of EU3.
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God dammit peasant revolts are fucking broken on warhammerd mod, Bretonnia gets 10 random revolts every single year.
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Who should I release? Thinking of just taking London and using that to trash their whole country.
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>>173927158
It's pretty good now, mang,
>>no economy
Quite a lot of economy actually, entire trade system, modifiers, the new vicky esque edicts.
>>no real management
Yeah, the new edicts have changed that too. Now you can actively pursue regional policies. Say you want to develop some shitty region of your country, you can do that now, but the edicts cost money, so it's a trade off. You also have to juggle estates and absokutism and shieet.
>>no pops
Developement is a reasonable substitute, in my opinion, if you stack developement cost modifiers you can play a nice boring tall game.
>>combat is nothing special
Actually has many facets now, again, if you stack modifiers you can create an ebin gross armyums.
>>a lot of features but no depth
This one is largely true, I'm a long time Vicky player and so every ither game feels like a bunch of different features stuck together, Vicky felt interconnected due to the pops system and I miss that, but developement in EU4 now ties in with edicts, estates, economy, army, and everything else, so it's sort of there.

I just play it because I've played enough vicky for the time being. You can tell it's actually becoming a good game because redditors keep complaining about it become too "railroaded" and "micromanagement heavy".
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>>173927470

Honestly i never get bored with V2, or rarely. I wish the fucking timeline was longer in either direction though.
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>>173911760
>Geopolitical Simulator 4
Can you play Rhodesia ?
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Will this lead to the creation of Kurdistan or do the exact opposite?
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>>173926969
Pretty much. I was gearing up to roll over the rest of Manchuria and Korea and then beat up China and take the Mandate.
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>>173927273
Sounds like UnHPM, tbvqh lad.
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>>173927872
You can extend it, or try simsulla's NWO since he's one of the only modders left working on vic2
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>>173927926
Based and white. I'd restart. Will you transfer to V2.
Also, aren't Korea a tributary? Won't Ming join?
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>>173927273
I love alt-history stuff like this. Imagine our industrious Israel making the most of their resource-rich island, mixing with the already diverse Polynesian/African native population.
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>>173927882
It's 2016 countries
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WE WUZ TSAR N SHIT
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>>173921705
we had a good stream thank you, join us next time tomorrow to finish excavating the great lakes and do other map modding.
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>>173927957
CWE is better, Sim shat up the map.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/victoria-2-cold-war-enhancement-mod/news/cwe-mod-version-104
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>>173928052
Tributaries can beat up other tributaries. I don't like licking boot, and you can get on without it, but then you can't blob freely into Manchuria, and blobbing in Indonesia is less convenient.
I'm also going for Alaska/California/Mexico so I can divert their trade and gold back to Nippon.
I'll see how Europe looks before I convert to V2. It isn't looking great right now.
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>>173928076
>mixing
Why don't you go back?
>>
>try to assassinate a guy with 5 intrigue
>250% plot power
>plot fails 3 times and gets exposed another 2 times
what
the
fuck
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>>173928352
I'm not saying we should all become a blob of brown, but I like alt-history scenarios that involve different populations interacting in ways they never did. Like Norse colonies in the Indian Ocean.
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Why do fedoras call them christcucks when Christianity is the most violent religion?
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>>173927920
you'll annex them
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>>173927158
>>no economy
>>no real management
>>combat is nothing special
There's an economy, there's management which is clearly evident when you watch how different people play.You could observe people in their different games in here.
Much clearer in mp when peoples different managament skills translates into one player conquering asia while 5 other players get annexed.
>combat is nothing special
In what way do you mean?
>no pops
eh
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>>173928483
>most violent religion
Have you ever heard of islam?
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About to play for the first time
Who to be?
Going to ask a lot of questions and hopefully make some liquor factories
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>>173928658
USA
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>>173901348
Never stop
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*blocks your path*
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>>173928316
>unironically being a CHINKED tributary
>>
I am on a big break.

I am going to go play some GS game hardcore.

I played tons of CKII, so not that.

I have

EUIII (All DLC)
EUIV (Just Conquest of Paradise)
HoI III (All DLC)
Vicky 2 (All DLC)

Any recommendations on what I should play, or should I just screw around with a 4x like Stellaris?
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>>173928498
So how the fuck do I start a game of Kurdistan?
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>>173924296
smug current year man in the corner as well
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>>173928854
i think you can try to play as bohtan (one of the minors, which annexes the other minors) and somehow win the war when the ottomans take the deicions to annex you
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>>173928994
The minors are all puppet states. Will events blob for me? I guess I'll just sit on my ass and hope so.
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>sorry speck of shit
>forcelimit 62
johan sure loves turk cock
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>>173929148
when the ottomans choose to annex the kurdish states, all of them will unite under bohtan and then you can try figthing the turks(which is pretty much impossible anyway)
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>>173928235

CWE is fun for a bit but my issues are 1. it's so slow 2. way too many annoying events 3. insanely exaggerated

I was playing Albania and my population was like 10m in 2020
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>>173929218
LUCKY
U
C
K
Y
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>>173929304
>>173928994

I forget the date when that happens but if you attack the Ottomans during the Crimean war you can probably win. Russia will kill all their divs.
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>>173927939
UnHPM actually includes that stuff? I would still play UnHPM if I knew what version of HPM is compatible with it.

>>173928352
>being mad about jews race mixing
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>>173928629
They were btfo by based crusaders
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>>173929457
Destroying any race is bad, even Jews. Give them their containment island and repatriate every Jew there.
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>>173929410
I always turn that off. The fact that they absolutly destroy anyone early game on top of every other bonus lucky nations get. I mean starting huge having the best ideas, having ample space to expand. Is that not enough for lucky nations?
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>>173929448
i'm not sure you really get a choice.
i think you can only annex the other minors when the turks take the decision to annex you, which probably won't be in the crimean war
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>>173929457
>UnHPM actually includes that stuff? I would still play UnHPM if I knew what version of HPM is compatible with it.
I don't know, I'm saying it's the sort of memes steamcordplaza would put in their mod.
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>Four gold provinces in Australia
>Haven't gotten a single inflation-cutting advisor in like 100 years

This is suffering
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>>173929457
>I would still play UnHPM if I knew what version of HPM is compatible with it
I'll trade you that info for a working link for unHPM
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>>173929895
Sell australia
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>>173929895
Develop the provinces tae fuck, lad. You'll be rolling in wonga.
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>california gold rush
>altogether san francisco has 500% migrant chance
>nobody comes
wew
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>>173930070
That'd make the problem worse
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>>173930421
Yeah, but you can buy advisors to fix it then.
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>my first liquor factory ever is being constructed
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>>173930582
forgot pic
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>>173930496
>>173930421
>>173930070
Just focus admin and lower inflation manually until you can get economy ideas. It's worth it for the gold.
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>>173930421
inflation is a meme
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fug, what should I do lads?
One the one hand I'm already two loans deep and out of manpower so if I go to war it will be difficult and fun but at the same time if I win I would be retardedly strong and the rest of the game will be less fun.
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>>173931238
Do it faggot.
Create the northern Hemisphere Empire.
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>>173931238
stay out of it
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>>173930924
Why are you not using all you NFs?
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>>173931238
Do it, this is EUIV after all.
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>>173931443
Didn't know I could have multiple desu
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>>173929835
You're not fucking funny.

>>173929985
this is a v o l a f i l e link
/O_Drwj8akX7y/unHPM%20v2.0.zip
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Why is industrializing so hard as an East European country in V2?

With a western country your factories fill pretty fast and are almost always profitable. With an east European country you really have to be careful and meticulous with some trial and error.

What are the mechanics behind this? Is it resources or smt?
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>>173932187
because slavs are stupid
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>>173932014
Actual niggers deleted it while I was trying to get past the spam filter.

Try this one: O_H0PNFtQ9P7/unHPM%20v2.0.zip
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>>173930963
How much is that inflation going up by?
Also, go to the ledger and post inflation graph for yourself compared to other gold rich countries.
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Holy fucking shit.
Is Skanderbeg /ourguy/?
>turk slayer
>stack wipe and a dead general
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>>173901335
>temporarily ending the Byzantine Empire.

THE COURT OF THE EMPIRE MOVED TO NICAEA AND CONTINUED FROM THERE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Does anyone here have experience with the Game of Thrones mod for ck2?

I've played several campaigns with it, but this time something really weird happened. The game started killing off entire houses. The Starks, Lannisters, Baratheons, Targaryens, Greyjoys, Martells, Tullys and several others all just died in rapid succession with a message saying GRRM killed them by removing their plot armour.
What the hell is going on?

I took a few pics, but there were many, many more deaths.
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>>173932014
>You're not fucking funny
STEAMCORDPLAZA IN TEARS
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>>173905159
Want to bring attention to this post. I am newish to CKII, what the fuck are these political concerns? I used to thinknit was neighboring countries but i have been fighting up in Scotland as Ireland before and O can't get the HRE or France to help
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>>173932556
It's probably some shitty meme from that retarded show.
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>>173932637
Yes, but I've never seen it happen in the game before. I'm confused as to what triggered; I haven't found anything about it mentioned online.
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EU4 was a mistake
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>>173932556
The update came out on April 1st and added a new bookmark with a "deep event chains."
Play a normal start date.
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Pick a HRE nation.
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>>173932605
I just hate autistic people who repeat the same unfunny shit over and over again.
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>>173932808
Ulm.
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>>173932785
Oooooh. That's kinda silly.

Thanks for the help, anon.
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>>173932810
Lad, UnHPM is unironically made by a steamgroup and discord member, Gruica, a Croatian teenager.
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>>173932512

Skanderbeg is based. He's rumored to have personally killed 4000 Turks which is insane but considering his military prowess i wouldn't even be surprised.

Honestly Skanderbeg is really underrated outside of the grand strategy community. His numbers are absolutely fucking mind boggling. Look at how many Albanians died vs how many Turks died in these battles plus the initial number of troops. Again it's hard to even imagine how that shit is possible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Albulena

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Kruj%C3%AB_(1450)
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>>173932187
LITERACY
I
T
E
R
A
C
Y
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>>173932859
Ulm it is
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>>173933089
Righto keep us updated.
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>>173912032
It just happened to me slowly over time after I achieved independence.
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>>173933053

Yeah but wtf does literacy have to do with industry? I thought that onyl helped with research.
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>>173932974
>4000
Heh, nice opener, kid.
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>>173933409
>Silver Mine
>change_trade_goods = gold
Why not rename them precious metals?
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So what is your workout routine /gsg/? You DO move around between your 2K hours of VickyII right?
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>>173933202
Managed to get alliance with two electors, Brandenburg next
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>>173933486
Because gold sounds better than precious metals.

Iron isn't just iron either.
Neither is grain, wool.
If you hover over them in game you'll get a full description.
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>>173933574
/fitlit/ is a big guy.
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>>173933574
today I did 60 bicep curls and 60 squats with weights
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>>173933683
Someone hover over them to prove this.


>>173930963
>>173932357
What's the holdup, lad?
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>>173933693
4 u
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>>173933274
If people can't read they can't work in factories
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I don't think protestantism is doing very well this game.
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>>173933896
wot flog med
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>>173933574
stronglifts 5x5
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>decide to bully Hungary while they're getting t*rked
>ai pulls everything away from fighting the ottomans to me
>b-but the AI doesn't focus the player


>>173929694
>>173929304
Worth mentioning you have to fight Persia at the same time.
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>>173933835
Here's me (2 developed mines), Spain (2 undeveloped mines that I can see), and Sofala (two developed mines and two undeveloped mines)
My inflation is only like .3 a year with a reduction adviser.
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okay anons.

I have narrowed down to two options.

EUIII with all DLC
EUIV just with the first one

Which one should I play?
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>>173934461
Didn't think I could open the economy tab at the same time as the ledger
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>>173933619
Four electors allied (two big ones), everything around me claimed and currently making Austria my friend. This will be a comfy game.
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>>173934461
>My inflation is only like .3 a year with a reduction adviser.
inflation is a meme
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>>173933835


>>173934479
httt =)
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>>173934561
And here we go
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>>173934607
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Kruj%C3%AB_(1450)
Honestly in Meiou inflation is a joke. Late game it does nothing, youre already adding 150% on building expenses whats a few more % going to do. You should have development set so that anything but mountains are at max early game anyway so there is no point that way either.
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>>173934857
Who said anything about meiou
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>>173933995
Revolutionary flag mod.
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>>173934923
Well base game matters even less so... Money is half useless in the base game. Gold mines are more a curse then anything else.
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>>173934535
>that sofala
hmm

I wish they'd add more graphs to the ledger, muh spreadsheets is the main appeal of GSG for me.
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>>173932014
>>173932291
shit, sorry, didn't see your posts. latest version it works with is 0.3.3.3 I think. here's a link:
https://u.nya.is/aceknj.7z

you're based as fuck for the link, man
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>>173901348
based
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R8 Europe
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>>173933574
Six sets of twelve ounce curls 5 nights a week. Get on my level.
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>>173932914
I don't really care. It was a fun mod.

>>173929985
>>173932014
>>173932291
Did it work for you? Where's my reward?
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>>173926103
BASED tbqh
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>>173935279
see
>>173935150
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Fuck why do steam screencaps always come out shit?

Here's manual screencap.
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>>173935150
And I didn't see your post. Thank you.
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>>173935237
Why would Germany have a bunch of colonies but no Prussia or Austria?
r8 my Europe
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Give me a quick rundown on what the new patch to EU4 added. I'm not buying the new DLC but I still want to know what they fucked with this time.
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>>173935237
>Swamp germs not under reguler germs
>fucking gommies
>northern ireland
and whole lotta other
-10/10
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>>173935279
>I don't really care. It was a fun mod.
I don't care whether or not you care, I was adressing your dismay at my statement of fact that it is a steamcordplaza mod.

>>173934770
>>173934535
>tfw you ask two different anons to do something and they both do it
am i god
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What is a good EUIII first game?

German Minor and see how long you last?
Portugal and build a colonial empire?
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>>173935543
>cultural English wouldnt want to stay with the english
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1 nothing wrong with me
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>>173935471
Jesus fucking Christ.

Anyway, Poland retains all the Polish provinces, there were no Prussian provinces over there anyway.

Scandinavia, Balkans, and Crimea are just jumping-off points.
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>>173935712
but le based IRA xd
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does anyone have a download for meiou for eu3 httt?
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>>173935680
Chyna
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>>173935923
Based and white
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Religious war.
Fucking albion actually hit the button.
Brandenburg Catholic emperor.
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First time player, just unlocked ideas and my head is swimming. What's /gsg/'s tier list or must haves?

Quantity seems pretty fun. Defensive ideas sounds really strong, and innovative seems like a good mix.
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>>173935923
>>173935712
EU4's vanilla map actually perfectly shows a good compromise for NI, England keeps Ulster, where the majority of the English are and the Irish get Tyrone, where the majority of the fenians are.
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I want a nation, either in HPM or CWE/NWO to make a rich luxury need met ethnostate and either focus on monarchical absolutism or gommunism, possibly of the islamig type
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>>173936075
>taigs
>white
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Okay seriously guys, how am I doing? 1620 came around pretty fast.
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>>173934841
So I fucked that one up, but Bavaria just lost a war that made them annul their alliances. Here we go again
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>>173936138
Religious, admin, diplo, quantity, offensive are pretty much mandatory.
Exploration, influence, quality, economic depends on what you need. Of course, if you need colonization spam, you'd take even expansion, but it's complete shit otherwise.
Innovative may seem good but only 2/7 of its ideas are actually good.
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>>173936292
Develop your gold mines.
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>>173936292
You're a cuck to Ming. That's what you're doing.
Commit sudoku.
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>Supreme Ruler is shit
>No modern day Grand Strategy

Why? I'd love a Paradox modern day game.
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>>173936268
MOSLEY advocated unification of Ireland, though.
https://www.oswaldmosley.com/irelands-right-to-unite/
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l am playing as Spain, currently in the Age of Reformation, managed to annex Portugal PU into my realm and, of course, I formed Spain so I own all of their shit too.
I also have eaten most of France.
So here is my question, Is there a bug in the "unify culture" age check? Because I own every culture in Iberia.
Is it because colonies?
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>>173936475
What should I up the production to?
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>>173936316
Finally
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>>173936617
Other people have claimed the same thing, so I think it is just broken.
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>>173936659
Infinity. Remember to enact the cheapdevelopement4u edict before you do it, though.
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>>173936772
Fuck, I forgot that was a thing. Still not used to edicts.
I already developed both of them ages ago.
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>>173936587
mosley was a cuckold
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>>173936689
>the game RNGed a 4 shock leader with an army size equal to mine when the nationalists rebelled

Oh well, whatever. I'll retake it later anyway
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>>173937424
Are you good at Eu4? I'm a noob and I'm trying to play Brandenburg. Before the favoring system I could ally strong countries and expand rapidly by getting them to join wars. Now, I struggle to do any sort of expansion because I can't bring larger countries into aggressive wars with me. What do I do? Do I fight countries with no allies early and try to get a coastal province from Mecklenburg then build tall by spending Monarch points on development? Also, I find that I never have enough monarch points to tech up even when I try to be conservative and never lose or spend them in events. Also I find that I lose man power quickly in wars. Do I have to be conservative and only use man power on battles and wars where I will completely crush my enemy?
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>>173936138
No must haves really, but if you want to be as powerful as possible you should get

Offensive, Quality and Defensive, possibly in that order when it comes to mil ideas.
Administrative for blobbing.
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>>173936659
>>173936772
>>173936874
No just get them up to 9 base production.
It depends a bit on how much time there's left in the game, but 9 is fine to aim for early on.
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I have 1 textile factory and 1 regular clothes being built.

Vick2 pls, stop the weirdness that is going to ruin my economy.
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God damnit, Brunei, now I have to kill you.
>>173937994
I used mine to spawn Renaissance/Colonialism, so I got mine to 17.
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>>173938075
So is it only admin that increases the revenue you get or do all mana dumps?
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>>173937424
God fucking damnit Bohemia

>>173937784
You should be expanding into Poland as Branderburg (since it's not in the HRE and Austria won't spam-demand you to return the territory). Take the necessary allies to encircle Poland and simply join their war when they declare one against Poland. Occupy your claims and the AI will give them to you in the peace offer.

Alternatively, watch Poland lose wars and declare your own war when they're very weak. You should always break up Poland's alliances in the peace offers. After you're done with Poland, move up to the rest of Prussia and go back to the HRE only when you have 15 or more provinces, else Austria will always block you from expanding.
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>>173938201
For gold you need to increase production, so diplo. Marginally increases the chance of the goldmine depleting each year, though.
Admin is taxation, mil is manpower, diplo is whatever the province produces.
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>>173938075
>I used mine to spawn Renaissance/Colonialism, so I got mine to 17.
A bit much, but probably worth for institution.
Got a gold mine as mutapa up to 14 to force an institution.

As for value when you get up to numbers like 17 you start to actually lose income over time since you increase the chance that it depletes.
There's a chart on the wiki that shows it a bit.
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Imagine how fucking comfy a 1631 Japanese coffee plantation in the Philippines would be.
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>>173938292
>Marginally increases the chance of the goldmine depleting each year, though
w-what.?
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>>173929895
do you not have factions or something? the traders offer a +3 Master of Mint at half the price with a cooldown of 30 years
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r8
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>>173938520
How subhuman are the Philippean natives? Would they make good slaves? Can you get slaves in those provinces?
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>>173938573
If you want to increase the gold income develop the province with diplo, nothing else increases it.
However the bigger the gold production is in it the higher are the odds it will deplete, which cuts the production value in half.
Mouse over the gold icon when inspecting the province to see the tooltip.
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>>173938668
Think of the Filipino slave boys anon
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>>173937424
1. Learn to autonomy.
2. Learn to surpress
3. Learn to savescum
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>>173938696
>From this table, it can be seen that a base production for a mine of ~10 gives good a performance through most of the game, though if there are less than 200 years left, something closer to ~15 might be desirable.
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>>173938573
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>>173938818
Just savescum if it depletes?
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>>173938262
I don't understand, what does breaking alliances in peace offers do? Can't they just get the alliances back again. Also, Poland is scary. They have Lithuania, Moldovia and that other vassal. Austria doesn't seem that strong as well, at least in my games.
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>>173938668
These are all slave provinces. Would be cool if you could expand the slave trade, just like you can take that late-game idea banning the slave trade. Interestingly, there is one in the Genoese Azov province, which I assume is historical, I know slave trade from Crimea was a thing.
>>173938921
Probably, I've been savescumming this campaign like crazy for a number of reasons.
>>173938983
They are barred from pacts with that country for a set amount of time, I think its longer than the ensuing peace treaty, as well.
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>>173938573
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>>173938746
1. 2. "Refused to Return Unlawful Territory" modifier, triggered by Austria demanding your recently-conquered province, gives +20 unrest
3. I'm Ironman
4. I cored it before doing that, hence I can finally annex it without having Austria demand the territory again

>>173938983
When you break their alliance there's a 5 years timeframe where everyone can gang up and balkanize them since they're alone. You're also creating a potential chance for some of their allies to turn hostile against them. Keep breaking their alliances constantly and Poland will disappear in 50 years
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>>173939092
>>173938983
The AI also doesn't like to make alliances again even if they can with their former ally.

As a matter of fact if they're of similar power you'll quickly see them becoming rivals, try doing this with France+Ottos
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>>173939092
>madagascar
Was it really this slaved up?
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>>173939092
>>173939141
>>173939179
Okay thanks. How do I get a lot of mp? I find that if I only spend my mp on tech I get behind? Is putting a lot of points in development worth it? How do you fight aggressive wars early in the game if you are a small nation to accrue favor with larger nations?
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>>173939224
?
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>>173939141
If your relations with the emperor are high enough, they won't demand it.
You can savescum on ironman.
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>>173938668
Only Africa produces slaves as a trade good.

>>173938583
Didn't realise you could do that. Thanks.
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>>173939457
>Only Africa produces slaves as a trade good.
I thought the southern US, Brazil and Carib did as well?
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>>173939141
>almost 400

>>173939349
>Is putting a lot of points in development worth it?
Not at all. Only in your capital and valuable tradegood provinces

>>173939394
>If your relations with the emperor are high enough, they won't demand it.
They were 90 when that happened. Is it 100+?
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>>173939092
Isn't there actually a bunch of former black slaves living in the east coast of the Black Sea? Not sure if it was in Russia or Georgia.
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>>173939457
>Only Africa produces slaves as a trade good.
Not all of them
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>>173939532
They used slaves, they didn't produce them
>>173939541
Far as I know they sold
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>>173939534
How can I increase development without spending mp?
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Is there a way to tell who is at war with who in CK2?
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>>173939357
meme, new one

thinking of ways to value which areas are best to state, figured areas by #provinces is one way, would like to add in trade goods in some way, maybe combined value of trade goods, so if grain=2, then an area with 5 grain provinces would be at 10 on the trade goods column, not sure how to do that in a fast way though, so probably won't happen
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>>173939541
>>173939601
Fucking autopost, I was going to steppe peoples sold captured slaves and whatnot to the merchants in Azov and Crimea. Though if they were selling slaves there, it wouldn't surprise me if they were receiving African slaves as well.
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>>173934205
What are your numbers now?
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>>173939534
Aim for at least 150+. I wouldn't expect a lack of complains without 200 though.
Not sure if being stronger than the emperor is also a factor.
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>>173939532
I meant in terms of freshly-colonised provinces.

>>173939532
No, those places don't produce slaves. However, if you control those provinces as well as some slave provinces, you can get the Triangle Trade event, which boosts slave price.

(the triangle trade was the pattern by which Africa's slaves were purchased in exchange for European manufactured goods, then sent to the Americas to produce agricultural goods, and those agricultural goods were then traded back to Europe.
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>>173939534
Yes, hundred after you take the provinces, so you need to substract AE.
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>>173939534
So what was the effects of me losing the province from the rebels?

>+ 500 gold
>+ 1 vassal
>+ no unrest in the province
>- one less province for 10 years

I think that it was actually worth it.

>>173939617
You don't. To conserve them simply use the focus and cycle it depending on what you need
>>
Is there any reason not to attack the papacy in the 769 start? Even if you're catholic no one seems to care if you attack the pope. Seems to me that it's just free land.
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the end of monarchy in china in the 1870s
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>>173939660
Nope
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>>173939769
>(the triangle trade was the pattern by which Africa's slaves were purchased in exchange for European manufactured goods, then sent to the Americas to produce agricultural goods, and those agricultural goods were then traded back to Europe.
Yeah, do you think I'm retarded, lad? Now tell me what gravity is.
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>>173939983
Gravity is the force that attracts a body toward the center of the earth, or toward any other physical body having mass. For most purposes Newton's laws of gravity apply, with minor modifications to take the general theory of relativity into account.
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>>173939660
With WHOM
Learn to English, Jose.
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>>173939916
and the first thing done is the removal of those gay confucianist schools and opening of better schools
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These new sprites are so sexy
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>>173940028
>he actually did it the absolute madman

>>173940147
*unsheathes musket*

>>173940061
>gay confucian
reeeeeeeeeeee confucianism is an ebin conservative dogma that PLEB western piggus like yourself cant understand
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>>173940147
They're not sprites since a sprite is a two dimensional bitmap.
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>>173940147
Does Japan get Portuguese military modernization events like Ethiopia does?

Seems more relevant even since the Portuguese bringing in arquebuses are what allowed Japan to unify.
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>>173940312
There are not
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>>173940147
If you downscaled that resolution, would you die?
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>>173940419
dumb
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>>173940312
>Portuguese military modernization events like Ethiopia
oWo whats this
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>>173913907
best post
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shaun king
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>>173940279
Yeah, it's a 3D model.
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>>173940632
Not him, but I remember Ethiopia used to have an event to get muslim type units instead of the super shitty african ones they started with.
That's like 2 years ago though, maybe this is something new.
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>>173940312
They have isolationism mechanics instead of relying on the events system.
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>>173936123
GOD WILLED IT
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>>173941230
>generic blob nation

pls stop posting
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>>173941109
Let me guess, allowing immigration makes you technologically abundant?
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>>173941352
do you know any japanese history
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>>173941352
Usually letting in whites improves things.
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>>173940632
IIRC they get a discount to military tech and free 10 discipline for 10 years if they border the Mamluks.
Gotta make good use of that fast but it's a guaranteed win if they are at war with the Ottos or just were.
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>>173941568
Whites are inferior to Japanese
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>>173940037
Case has largely fallen out of English though. Due to word order being the main way to tell who is doing what to whom.

Also is there seriously no menu that tells you who is at war with WHOM?
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>>173941545
>I'm a massive leftist goy who follows the Jew ridden media narrative on anything and as such extrapolates that to all political and historical situations even where they clearly don't fit
Japan was fine for millenia before western interference, the introduction of guns and American influence almost destroyed them and then finally did in 1945. Their culture is now gone thanks to this.
>inb4 animangai has always been japans culture
>>
based
>>
white
>>
white
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>>173941705
Word case is trash and needs to go the way of word gender desu.
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>>173941653
?
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>>173929895
Where should I colonise next, anyway? I was thinking the Philippines.
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>>173918007
That isn't how anything works you retard.
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>>173939749
shit, cant lift more than 1pl8, I'm a weak skelington
I need new equipment as well desu, too poor to go to gym
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>>173941790
>Japan was isolasionist
>no you're rwong that's a KIKE media narrative
???
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>>173941653
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>>173942013
As long as you're keeping an eye out for an opportunity to go to the new world, I'd go with New Guinea.
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>>173942081
>abandoning isolationism and opening up to the world was good for japan
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>>173942013
>reking your economy
Top kek.
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>>173942189
Noone here is making any claims if it was good or not you /pol/ sperg, The anon stated that japan has isolationim mechanics and you alreafy sperged about muh immigration and jewish media.
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>>173942384
Because Paradox are an (((EU))) funded company and that means they'd make it in accordance with the narrative, immigration to white countries good, immigration control on white countries bad.
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>>173942497
Whatever, lad.
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>>173941568
>Iberians
>white
>>173941705
use the ledgers, in relations

It's really annoying how
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>>173942497
japan arent even a white country
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>>173942650
No. They're honorary whites.
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>>173942626
ty m8. The spanish wuz vizigoths btw
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>>173942812
I'm just parroting memes.
Iberians during the colonization times were unreal with their ambitions.

>no one crossed the cape
>cross it and in less than 20 years wage war against the Mamluks from the East
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The plan
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>>173942650
japanese are far east aryan
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Does China have some kind of mechanic where their military is somewhat gimped like they used to? How am I supposed to get an advantage over these guys?
I was planning on warring them after a couple decades of playing catch-up in mil tech now that I've finished quality ideas, but I don't know if I'll be ready.
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>>173943353
Literally no one in this pic is either Asian nor White
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>>173943353
You're thinking of Koreans.
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>>173943397
Is Bahmanis, Kongo, Ethiopia and Butyatia having artillery in 1640 historically accurate
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>>173942384
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
kys cuck
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>>173913792
Please teach me how to play.
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>>173943406
centre of pic is me and the background is the rest of u mirin my edgy opinion
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>>173943397
Only if you are a horde or they have sub 50 mandate.
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>>173943549
yes
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Anyone got that EU4 hindu pic for getting the mana points based on god and what not?
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I can't believe I'm here again
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>>173943450
>Koreans
>Fast left, authoritarian society
>Pop culture is just like Hollywood, very overblown with blatant sex.
>Riddled with all kinds of cults and religious movements.
>Radical feminism is basically state and cultural policy, which isn't surprising considering their recently ousted ruler was in a feminist cult.
Koreans are trash.
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>>173944338
I can t believe I'm nit bbuttwr
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>>173943397
The main triggers for the fall of Ming are now strong Manchu hordes and sub-50 mandate, especially both at once. Mandate is apparently really badly tanked by devastation score. You could also try snatching tributaries from them when you think you can manage it (Ming can't join offensive wars on behalf of their tributaries, which I've found really useful for getting at otherwise off-limits minor nations).
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>wage holy war against christcucks
>no other pagans join me
>they all join a defensive pact against me when I win

Fuck this noise. I bet the pope would appreciate me.
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>>173945297
Have fun throwing everything you have into a crusade, only for the holy land to go to that one duke who controlled the first five men of every siege.
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Is my game bugged? I just noticed I'm not a GP. Usually I start hanging around #8-9 before I finish unifying Japan.
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In Eu4, how can you increase development without spending MP on improving it?
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>>173945882
You can't.
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>>173945882
Lucky events and some missions
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>get a new video card
>games which were very poorly optimized now run like a breeze at over 60fps
>play EU4
>notices zero differences, lategame still staggers non-stop
th-thanks Paradox
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When should you hire mercenaries in eu4?
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>>173946157
You need a processor for Paradox games. Aside from Stellaris, that one needs both.
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>>173946275
When you don't have any manpower or want units to do something but don't want to use your manpower.
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>>173946313
My CPU is pretty good.
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>>173946275
>>173946350
Or if you are stupidly rich and have a few mercenary maintenance reduction ideas.
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Is there a command to fracture a nation?

I want to play as a Chinese state, but I don't want to start too strong and I think Qing is a little overdone
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>>173933574
sex with ur mum xD
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>>173946698
There was a glitch to do it ironman compatible, haven't tried it in the new patch though. You can just release all vassals of them then tag switch, but not ironman.
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>>173946698
Release them as a vassal then check the box to play as them.
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>>173947035
There are literally achievements that involve playing as a subject nation to the one you started as.
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>>173947104
Yeah I'm retarded, completely forgot about playing as a vassal.
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How come I'm not getting called into my colonies' wars? Is it because I am still a tributary?
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>>173946275
>>173946350
>>173946667
In my experience if you've got enough manpower that it never goes down you also have enough money that does, effectively making mercenaries near worthless.

If you do have tons of money you can recruit them in enemy territory after a stackwipe I guess. Wish that their overall limit was smaller but that they did not take the unit cap. That way rich nations would have a real reason to rely on mercs, instead going over the limit with them really drains your cash quickly.

Oh of course, small merchant republics can use those I guess. Small nations often go out of manpower.
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>>173939660
Yes, the character screen of a person shows who is at war with the character selected. It's the enemy's shield on it. You can also go to the ledger.
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>>173946275
If you have the money and ideas, all you infantry (and only infantry) should be mercs. That way you're saving huge amount of manpower and are having almost-instant reinforcements of your armies after the infantries get slaughtered.

That means that you should also have a backup of 2-3k ducats because reinforcing mercs doesn't cost manpower but costs a fuckload of money. It's basically equal to transforming your manpower into money.
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>>173947837
Do mercs reinforce faster?

I've got over 400k manpower and it never goes lower than 380k so outside of fast recruitment I don't really have a use for mercs.
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>>173939184
No. It was almost entirely Western Africa.
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>>173919542
Really?
I didn't want to pick it as the colonies seemed far more important, and why TF does feudal de jure laws do fuck all, I still had a shit tonne of separatists when doing my unification wars
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>>173947948
You have to activate the edict in the state. Then it is -5 unrest.
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>>173947934
They do but there's not much use of them if you have 400k manpower. When I become a blob I have a template of 50 mercs which I assemble together in half a month and suicide at an enemy stack to weaken it, followed by my actual armies. It costs me some ~1k ducats but wins me the war for sure
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>>173947941
For the west, obviously Arabs took their slaves from East Africa.
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Looks like WW1 kicked off in 1669 over 2PM Naples.
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How do I get more commanders? Most I have range from shit (4) to abysmal (2) martial skill, but even if I use whoever available I can't even fill my armies with commanders. I want to declare war on Carthage/Illyria soon but I want some monster commanders first.
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>>173923350
>did not want war
>what is the Abyssinian crisis
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>>173924450
>>173924296
It's Al Jezera spreading fake news, Sad!
>>173925291
>institutions spawn outside Europe
You do know until the Mughals, India and Europe were pretty neck and neck
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>>173948141
Question, when it comes to just infantry to artillery is the ideal composition 1:1 or a little more of infantry so the artillery doesn't get hurt?
In my second EU4 gave ever I somehow beat back the Ottomans while only grasping how to modernize as nomads 100 years late and I only survived by attacking them when they were hurt and with a shitload of infantry and artillery in mountains.

Oh nevermind I found my old screenshots and that only happened with 1:1 and after I became Persia and therefore modernized.
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>>173948627
Yes, but you should always have non-art divisions if you're a blob else you're going to drain your surplus and hover at around 400-500 ducats, which is retarded. Don't get too many arties
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>>173948287
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>>173926871
>emperor
But you can't play as the emperor in eu4, or do you mean the one with the Mandate of Heaven. Also why don't you want to be Christian, he achievement alone makes it worth it
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>>173948627
Step 1: build as many artillery as you're likely to have combat width.

Step 2: build that many infantry, and as many as you think you're likely to lose (probably at least 4).

Step 3: build 2/4/6 cavalry depending on your flanking modifier (under military tech).
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>>173948783
You can only claim the mandate of heaven as an eastern or pagan religious group. I want to convert afterwards.
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>>173948709
>non-art divisions
You mean purely for sieging when there are no enemies nearby?
I honestly can't fathom going to war against a big blob with artyless stacks. I always go 2:1:2 although cavalry is worthless in sieges.

At first I liked these new forts but now everything feels too slow by endgame.
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>>173927158
Because I've tricked myself into thinking it's a good game for the meanwhile. Although when I get the imperialism casus beli I'll remember it's a map painter again
Cmon roleplay
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>>173948780
Ten lashes for Pullo
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>>173928316
>Alaska
>California
>Mexico
Alaska is alright, California is maybe if you stick to the coast, but Mexico. That's just blobbing
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>>173928810
Eu4 and pirate the DLC, don't worry jannies can't lock your computer only Johann
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Ok so my ruler was cucked for the fourth time in his life by 4 different queens this is EU fuckin 4. What is wrong with the goddamn swedes does someone at paradox legit have a NTR fetish? Like really whats next stalin is gonna sleep with eva in HoI4?
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>>173949209
Cuckold is the intellectual fetish, so of course the superior swedish would like it.
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When is the CK2 balance patch being released?
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What's you're rarest eu4 cheevo that's not from the new patch? Mine is BBB at 0.42%
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>>173949304
Ok no its getting retarded as all hell. Like can I get a real fact based time a king was cucked and it led to a big scandal and put the legitimacy of the heir in question? Like even once in history since it happens in my EU4 games like 10 times a game at this point and my CK2 games 10 times a year.
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>>173948935
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMV-GdAeBpU
Damn i should rewatch it
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>>173949407
Where do you see how rare a cheevo is?
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>check an old screenshot of my second EU4 game ever
>realize the world war pretty good outside of Russia blobbing a bit into China and dismantling it
I miss those times...
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>>173948889
You should have a 30:5:30 stack as your main army, probably another 15:5:15 if you have a huge income. The rest should be merc infantries that you throw around to either siege or to suicide in an initial attack so the enemy doomstack has half the morale. It's slightly harder to play this way and requires more effort but in the end you manage to save a fuckload of ducats, upwards of 30-40k, which in turn make you invincible. Money is more important in EU4.
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>>173949592
8/10 except for Persia
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>>173949486
I actually didnt like it very much I got through the first season but only like the first episode of the second. I get what they were doing showing the difference between the upper and lower echelons of roman socitiy and what not but I would had loved either full on vorenus and pullo shenanigans
>WE GOTTA KILL THE GAULS AND RAPE THE WOMEN
>NO THATS WRONG 10 LASHES.
Or more on ceaser and brutus and shit. Also more incest.
>>
>>173931238
Why would you the Liberty desire was obviously too high
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>>173949619
>doesn't want a shia caliphate
u wot mate?

I remember that Mewar, Timbuktu, Timurids and Granada were my shia vassals into places I didn't want to expand myself.
>>
>>173949652
Well Vorenus and Pullo were always the best part about the show but you didnt like it that much? Also they were mentioned by Ceasar in his books funnily enough but aside from names everything else is made up in the show.
If found it bretty gud,what was the problem?

Best banter though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMRa81F00io
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>>173939545
those are east european slaves. tartars were slavers back then
>>
Is MEIOU and Taxes still 1.19 or did they update it yet
>>
>>173949794
Ya I didnt love it it felt disjointed and the massive time leaps at times felt weird. It was ok I would had as I said preferred if it was just vorenus and pullo dicking around in gaul and Egypt with ceaser and the like being distant and events around them happening seemingly at random and beyond thier control. A bit more like Sharpe. You see Sharpe participate in major parts of the war but his actions rarely were in his direct control and were of the whim of wellington even being shown to be disposable. But hey thats just me it was a fine show and I get what they were doing. But I probbly wont watch it again nor will I finish season 2.
>>
I remember /gsg/ absolutely shitting on anyone playing D&T in EU3, how come so many people use it without reprimand now for EU4?
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Pick a European OPM and pick my goals.

I'm playing ironman and hard (increases in ai development ruins vh).
>>
>>173950295
Alsace
Conquer Japan
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>>173950295
What you are asking is dumb there are like 5 omps in Europe. What are you expecting me to say Ulm? Play Granda I dont think ive seen anyone do it here in Ironman even I had to savescum a few times to pull it off.
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>>173949592
>French and English Siberia


Holy fuck I hate when the AI goes full meme mode and does this shit.
>>
>>173950238
D&T for EU3 was pretty rudimentary mod.
EU4 is MEIOU+D&T combined so in the worst case you get a bigger plate of shit.
>>
>>173950295
Ulm. Form Russia
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>>173950295
Hungary and offer the crown to Austria, be the true crusader state
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>>173949685
For one hundred years it was but now they are friendly. Even when they would sit back and watch me get rekt time and time again by Austria, Poland, Lithuania and Hungary it was still worth it not having to worry about a Russian invasion from the East.
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>>173950385
>garanada
remove kebab

>What are you expecting me to say Ulm
why? i don't get this meme

>>173950358
how much do i blob as alsace? does it matter or do you want me to conquer japan as early as possible?
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>>173950506
what? i said OPM (one province minor)

>>173950407
>ulm
no memes
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>>173950573
Doesn't matte how you play as along as the whole of Japan region is painted Alsace-yellow by January 2nd, 1821.
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>>173950714
How the fuck do i make money on CWE
>>
Is the best way to get high absolutism just decreasing province autonomy whenever possible? Harsh treatment and strengthen government are too expensive on the sword mana.
>>
>>173948248
>siding with the French
I bet you don't think the emperor is divine
>it's like ww1 guis
Really sick of this meme, ww1 is unique for how draining it was not the involvement. 7 years war involves every continent, whilst Spanish succession and thirty years war involves every major power
>>
>>173950860
>>173950714
didn't mean to quote you, sorry.
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>>173950681
>no memes
no fun
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>>173950714
alright alsace-japan it is
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>crusade orders get founded
>now every christian nation has heavy cavalry hit squads that will back them up every time i declare war

Can you even get Heavy cavalry as a norse or should I just build pikeman buildings?
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>>173948018
>I need to increase state maintenance to use my age mana
Are you fucking serious
>>173945882
Events and decisions
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>>173950860
But seriosly though, even with GPs and all tax/tariffs set to max and disbanding all my armies i still loose a fuckton of money factories just don't build fast enough.
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>>173950978
I had one of these in France.
They're so fucking good.

God, I miss my German relatives.
>>
Ming is based
>>
How do I into trade in eu4? I've played this garbage since release and I still don't understand.
Do I just want one dude collecting trade in my capital and all the others funnelling trade towards it or do I want all my dudes transferring power or do I want my dudes collecting in other nodes?
>>
Just got a call from my source apparently R&I is dead and he will not be making new /gsg/ threads anymore
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>>173951513
Gods be praised
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>>173950295
Utrecht
become hre
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>>173951513
ok time to join the official steam discord group
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>>173951490
Privateer in high value nodes you can't effectively steer from.

Steer everything else to either your home node or an end node you collect in. Protect your trade in every node you have a merchant in. I run simple 20 stacks of light ships for this.

Alternativley steer and collect further down the line, like all the american trade in the carribean if there are too many other powers in the way and you can't effectively control the flow to your ports.

Make sure you develop good trade good provinces, use trade companies and colonial nations effectively to get more merchants. Try to control at least one end node if you're playing in Europe. Other important nodes are The Straights of Malacca for that SEA trade. Cape and Ivory Coast for anything flowing from SEA and India. Carribean for American trade.
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>>173951490
Capital CoT is always automatically collected.
Else you only get money on other CoTs if you have a merchant collecting there.
Logically because of the reduced collecting modifier outside of home CoTs it would mean collecting in your home node while funnelling everything to it but it's not that simple as your trader power becomes nothing in distant CoTs and with upstream trade transferring.

A good example of an exception would be good old Zanzibar when you hold all provinces in it and the cape.
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New Thread
>>173951796
>>173951796
>>173951796
>>173951796
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>>173951513
>>173951876

Nice source, bitch.
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>>173949427
There are mods to stop it in CKII, don't know about EU4.
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>>173951731
Is putting someone to collect in the capital COT ever worth?
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>>173951876
Too early.
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>>173951015
Pikeman are the way to go
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>>173950868
Yes
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>>173950931
>>>/b/
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>>173952035
Only if you don't hold all of its trade region really.
Basically at early game.
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>>173952241
>>>/mlp/
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>>173950557
>that map mod
Disgusting
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>>173951554
Our victory is moments away
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>>173936536
> east vs west will NEVER be made
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>>173938070
> playing as California

Literally why
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>>173938621
Gross/10

> Forming AH but not forming Danubian Federation
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>>173941352
They have an isolationism mechanic, not an immigration mechanic
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