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Stale bread >>173459165

Clans:
NA:
PLSGO (good)
AWOO (drumph shitters)
PLEBS (PS4fags)

EU:
literally none

FAQ:
>Where do I look up tanks?
http://tanks.gg/wot/
>How do I find people to platoon with?
Don't be blue and ask in the /vg/ channel
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pzmoe
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Why the fuck were light tanks nerfed again?
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>>173792809
They were almost as good as medium and you can't have that.
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>>173793392
Why not?
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>overpowered invisitanks won't be overpowered

why is anyone complaining
is it the medium players crying because they don't get a new easymode vehicle to statpad in
who the heck wants more dpm mad invisitank shits rolling about
lights will be fine. medium players get out of my class forever
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Is there any reason to go past the ISU-152
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>>173795116
they were underpowered in the first test iteration. Now they are garbage.
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>>173795116

t. maroon
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>>173793392
>They were almost as good as medium

they were hot garbage but apparently that's just too powerful
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>>173796441
Relatively close DPM and viewrange as medium but better maneuverability and keeping the full camo while going sanic and since med armor is useless for those tier...
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>>173797549

i always forget how fucking bad the posers itt are, but then someone makes a post like this
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Rich, coming from a person with 5k battles in Type 59
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>>173797549
>since med armor is useless for those tier..
lol
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>when that motherfucking Parkinson's kicks in
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>it says the gun is only compatible with spic
>never played the spic and already got the gun unlocked
can somebody explain this ?
i only played german heavies past t6 so i doubt it was because of some tech treee rework
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>>173800483
spooky
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Reminder that nothing looks better than the Centurion Action X in the pc version of the game.
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>>173802649
too bad the hull is made of wet tissue paper
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>>173797808
Damn, are you ok? Everyone here is worried about you.
I hope you can get over this and carry on with your life as normal as possible after such a shock.
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>>173797549

>>Relatively close DPM and viewrange

Oh the horror!
Are you saying that light tanks could actually be effective in some way, though still worse than mediums?

Can't have that.

The role of light tanks that WG seems to push(spotting and under no circumstances anything but spotting), is not a role that is viable in the game as it is.

As it is now the team that gets a top tier light tank in their team instead of a medium or Heavy are at a disadvantage in all maps except maybe two or three.
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>>173806889
it's honestly stupid. Spotting is important but a medium can do a scout's job better than a light tank can do a medium's.

Scouting isn't exclusive to light tanks. Hell I rack up spots in my Tiger if my team's scouts are too slow. This nerf is completely unnecessary. I hope they never bring it to console in its current form.
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stop dying
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So what happens if I choose a tank that's already in garage for TankRewards tier 4?

They will send the gold or credits equivalent?
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So how are you guys enjoying 30v30?

I've had a lot of fun, even if I think that the attacker has a significant advantage.
Of the 8 games I've played the defender has only won once.
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I quit playing WoT after NTR won their first campaign reward tanks.

I came back and played a bit more about a year ago, then quit again.

Is there any reason to re-install?
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>>173807532

The solution to light tanks is just to balance them differently.

All light tanks should be dropped a tier. Problem solved.
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>tfw
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>>173812039
I have with installed so I can shitpost about people's replays.
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>>173812556
>That SU-122-44
He should Suduko
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>>173811167
gold
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>>173812039
Other than playing with people you enjoyed playing with, no.
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>>173792809
Do they have any patch notes, yet? I have been grinding the American and German light tank lines to unluck the T49 and Ru but if they are preemptively nerfing everything I might just give and Sudoku.
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fuck of chss and fuck ur depresssive personality
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>>173816259
Well if the tank is being moved to tier 9 it doesn't keep the experience, only if the tank is going to tier 8 from tier 7 will it keep the experience. Gib gold for xp conversion tovarisch :)))
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>>173816640
Chssmius is a good guy.
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>>173816640
It was meant to be a joke that also fulfilled people's expectations of me being autistic and having skewed priorities.

If you don't want to see it you can filter me. That is why I started using my name.
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hey awoo commander please accept may application

the name raebodep please accpet
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>anime OP
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>>173823987
where THE FUCK do you think you are?
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>>173824794
Why don't you enlighten us, anon?
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So is the game still unbalanced in favour of slav tanks?
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>>173823987
this is a north-korean blog, you dumb fuck
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>>173825578
>incest anime
>related to muh tonks
>north korean shill identified

Get ready to get nuked you slimy gook
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>>173825340
No.


Nip heavies are the new meta
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>>173825759
>t. heat slinging arty
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Why didn't anyone tell me that the AT2 is an impenetrable pillbox on wheels.
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>>173826824
Because it isn't.
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>>173826824
Because its not, none of them are because wargame doesn't actually play the fucking game which is why the maps are shit and the tanks are an unbalanced clusterfuck and balance between tiers doesn't exist and arty is still a thing and the wonky ass spotting still exists and there's grind out the fucking ass.
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This is the Sturer Emil, say something nice
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>>173828294

The Sturer Emil has excellent gun depression and alpha damage for its tier.
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>>173828294
>my face when people call it the Saint Emil because it's abbreviated St Emil in game
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>>173829571
>mfw I do that just to trigger people
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Why are players from 3rd world countries (south america) so terrible?

It's like they're not even sentient. Do they even know they're playing a video game or do they just mash the keyboard while screaming?
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>>173830946
The average IQ of south america is below 90, meaning they're nearing levels of literal retardation.
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>>173820593
hahaha get it? its pedobear backwards. awoo should really accept this guy
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>joining a stronghold and hearing all these brazil tier calls with brazil tier compositions
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>>173825701
Kim will handle you, burger.
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>>173823987
>not having a anime OP
You're in the wrong neighboardhood faggot.
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>be in tiger 2
>3 APCR rounds into mauschen cupola
>all bounces
>can't pen up glaces
>can't pen lower glacis
>can't pen turret
So the tiger is such a piece of dogshit that it can't even hurt a tank in the same tree one tier above it?

thanks for the german bias WG you fucking niggers.
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>>173833926
lol just flank
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>>173834045
>he doesn't know what corridors are
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>>173834602
just go down a different corridor lmao
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>>173834695
>he doesn't play wot

Your computer must be a complete potato if it can't even run wot 3rd worlder.
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Can't we just fucking remove arty since nobody likes them?
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>>173837608
mad cuz bad
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>>173837608
Play arty yourself, use your warpack to trace their shells and bully the nerds away. Like I do.
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>27 loses and 3 wins tonight
I've just thrown the last 7 games in tier 8. I'm fucking done.

fuck this broken matchmaking
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>>173839964

3 loss rule
stop playing if you lose 3 times in a row
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>>173839964
no goy, you just need to carry harder! It's much easier to crry if you have a Defender you know.
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>>173840264
why
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>I'll need to platoon to get tank reward points this month
Fuck
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>>173840365

there's no objective fact behind this. 3 is just an arbitrary number i've chosen for myself
matchmaker is based off of the queue population, and if you're getting shit matches, you'll continue to get shit if you keep playing
it's good to cut your losses early. losing a majority of battles isn't very efficient anyway.
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>>173839964
get good, mate. I would have won 20 games and lost 10 in your place
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Hey can I join PLSGO?

Who do I contact?
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>>173841553
Ev
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>>173840394
welp not completing any this month then
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>>173840394
>>173842106
You can just invite pubbies to your platoon and get the missions that way
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>>173842662
>implying getting crucial contribution 5 times with pubbies
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>>173834602
https://files.catbox.moe/x8g1fa.mp4
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Join AWOO Today!
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>>173842778
>console

Is the api for console stats accessible to see their WN8? Does any console player have a WN8 above 700?
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>>173842786
I wonder if these retards realize that no one wants to join a stupid le ebin may may: DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD clan that not only sucks in game, but also does noting but spam stale memes and worship arbitrary members.

Seriously, are they self-aware?
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>>173843523
I envy their graphics but the platforms are trash.
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>there's a world of tanks gen
anime girls and military tanks. what a weird sounding concept.
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>>173842778
>that retard crying for help the whole time in the background
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>>173843901
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>>173842778
>the "I yolo'd into them so why aren't you guys following me to be my meatshields, just so I can get off one shot and run away" guy

so glad that no one actually uses voice comm in PC random pubs
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>>173843523
>api reporting wn8

........
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>>173843993
>>173842778
So was the retard in chat the vk45? or ???
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Should I buy a KV-2 while the sale is going on?
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Which vert stab is the type 64 going to be able to equip?
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>>173842778
Jesus console is literal BR tier subhuman
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>>173844720
You're dumber than the VK if you even think that's a possibility.
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>>173844618
>he doesn't know how WN8 is calculated

Spoilers: The api is part of it.
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>>173845148
I'm not a console pleb like you.

I know that allchat used to be on PC. And that consoles are assbackwards with shit like the wtf e100 still being in game.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if there was an alltalk for you kids.
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My last team had five argentinians.
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>>173845276
Now you've outted yourself as a humongous faggot AND retard
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>>173845462
No one cares what you think consoletard.
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>>173791839
I'm here for imouto plowing. Can someone please direct me to the imouto plowing?
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>>173845937
No one cares what you think either faggot.


Enjoy playing the shittier version of the game with your "nerfed" arty.
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How do you get the vbaddict ADU to auto-upload the last battle replays? I have the Enable uploading of battle results and replays - delete local replays after upload checked.
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>>173846120
>pc
>shittier
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hey jetter this is raebodep please accpet the aplication thank you
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Is the Jap Tiger any good?
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>>173848076
No.
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>>173843523
yes and yes
http://www.wotinfo.net/en/efficiency?playername=VengefulOath&playerid=1075897455&server=PS4
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>>173844835
I want to say that guy had a Canadian accent
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>>173848420
did the "fuckin eh/fuckin A" tip you off?
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>>173848104
Why? It's a tier 6 Tiger and the short 88 got buffed.
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>>173848810
No just how he sounds, hadn't though about the 'eh' noises he made until you pointed it out
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>>173848883
slow
shit pen
no armor
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>your top player did 700 damage in a tier 8 match
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>1>17

Why do I do this to myself?
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How is this tank?
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>>173852365
Which is better, ARL 44 or T-150?
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>>173852365
The ARL is ok. Get the 105 and shoot gold. It should go by quickly enough.
Just get part the barn turret first and it is ok after that.
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>>173853053
I liked my russian T-150. Top gun for it does quite well in games.
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>>173853068
Barn turret has been gone for a while now, WG replaced it with other turret
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>>173853053
For what purpose?

They both have merit for their tier. The T-150 has much better armor. I think from memory the ARL goes hull down a bit better. That night just be me miss remembering though as it has been a few years since I played either (I can remember when they introduced both of them....)
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>>173853180
Christ in heaven! It has indeed been a while since I played those lines.
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>>173853313
>The T-150 has much better armor.

Didn't the ARL has 120mm front armor?
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>>173852365
Utter trash until it's fully upgraded then it's okay.
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>Lorraine 40t. has 23 less AP pen than 50B
how is this fucking balanced ?
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>>173854123
>being autloader scum
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>>173854209
I'm complaining about it nigger, tier VIII medium tank has similar pen to that of a tier X heavy
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>>173854315
>being autloader scum
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Good night, /wotg/.
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Why is tier 9 better than tier 10?
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>>173856582
>still competitive at tier 10
>can club tier 7's

That sure was a hard conclusion to come to
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>>173856582
It isn't? Tier 9 tanks are objectively worse than their tier 10 counterpart whether it be a dpm or maneuverability advantage.
>he needs to club tier 7's to pad his stats
How does it feel being yellow?
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>>173857106
>still competitive with tier 10s
depends almost entirely on the tank you're in
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Please explain to me how the JagdPz IV (t6) is not worse than the T67 (t5).
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>>173862478
l2p
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>>173854123
and the t26e5 has t9.5 tier ap pen on a t8 tank that has unpennable turret and also decent mobility and decent dpm

it single handedly makes every t8 usa heavy and med completely pointless since it beats or at least equals them in mobility, armor, dpm, pen, view range, accuracy, aim time, depression etc
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>log onto memebox
>for some reason I have a Tetrarch that I don't have on my actual account
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>>173866526
>hit rear of truck
>front explodes

technology
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>>173866907
bias
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>>173866907
Sympathetic Explosive Reactive Engine.
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tfw people still play this trash in 2017.

Y'all end yourselves.
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building a hetzer, what camo scheme shall i do lads?
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>>173869053
Bacon camo
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>>173863661
>beats or at least equals them in mobility
this is so depressing in my Patton KR, when im driving to a choke point and Patriot is right behind me, keeping up with me
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>>173869053
Definitely the Hinterhalt-Tarnung scheme.

Here's a black and white picture of it.
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>>173869872
oh the hexagon thing, noice dude
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>>173862478
>insane camo
>2.9k dpm
>decent alpha
>decent mobility

It's a slightly worse e-25 at t6
I don't know why people hate this tank or say it's bad.
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>>173870115
i loved my play through of the jpiv, super stealthy and decent armour
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>>173870115
It used to be pretty bad, but they buffed it a while ago.

I think it's probably one of the most solid Tier 6 TD's out there right now.
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>>173870441
Those stats are from like 1.5-2 years ago. Back when you had to play it with the 75mm and it was still good. Now that you can use the 88mm instead it's even better.
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Should I free XP to the T-100 or make the T-54 elite and get the Obj. 140?
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>>173852365
remember this beauty
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>>173872098
Get 140, tier X lights are all around garbage
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>>173873869
>% hp

euros really are trash at video games
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>>173874098
Percent HP is actually preferable in team-play though. It makes it much easier to call focus fire.
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>>173874234
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>>173874514
He's right though.
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>>173874234
>>173874702

t. people who don't win team play
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>nopan
>teamplay

now you can post your screenshot of 100 t6 sh battles you played to prove youre involved in "teamplay" lmao
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>>173874887
That't not even me, I don't even play niggerholds
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>>173872529
Why did then even remove it? It was like a rite of passage.
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What is this bullshit ? I'm having flashbacks about AMX 30
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>>173875904
[Cries in Cyrillic]
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>>173791839
What the fuck happened to PZMOE? Why did it become a redditor clan?
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>>173876354
that which 'is' can never 'become'
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>>173876354
the clan that once kicked redditors has now become reddit. . . . how the meaty have fallen . . .
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>>173875904
whats the problem?
just dont fucking research it, it will only delay elite status by 10k exp, big fucking deal

look at brit tree if you want to see real fucking bullshit exp black holes

guns with marignally better stats costing 50k exp and you cant just skip them
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>>173877505
lol fuck off kiddo
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>>173874234
>hey look he has 299 hp, odds are my 300 damage avg shell will take him out
or
>he's at 15% hp, now unless I'm an autist who knows every HP value by heart I have no idea whether my 300 give or take 25% will kill
Europe will always pick the shittier option, hence why they still use the metric system
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wtf I love physics now
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>>173877698
>if only I could tap alt for half a second to get exact HP value
bait as low as your server population
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>>173878424
>if only I could just have the right stat displayed without any inputs
>if only I had a good reason to have % displayed, maybe I wouldnt look like a dumpass
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>>173876486
Thats cause the inner circle uses it now. They wont hold themselves to the same standards
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>when it's not enough
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>>173875904
Hidden improved module durability is a thing and for chink tanks, it's an important thing.
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>lemme shit up your server tovarish))))
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>>173878424
The fucking colored health bar already gives you a visual representation of health percentage.

Why do you need it spelled out for you in text?
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>>173881840
>t. achmed
No wonder euro's are in the state they are
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>>173881935
Read the chain again and don't embarass yourself
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>>173880091
as if you know who the inner circles is. the visible circle bows to the real circle.
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>>173882128
>muh %
>muh tapping alt work around
>muh %

Sure thing, jamal
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Holy shit, when you get someone b& from xbox for whatever reason, microsoft messages you with a little thank you note informing you dun did gud.
I have a new purpose in life, time to ram Brazilians until I get something to report them for. Fuck these damn hues
>>173882205
Stop falseflagging as a burger and go to bed Charles
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>>173882509
We need to build a firewall
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>>173882509
>not making 10 reports per day
>not spending all your reports on arty

it's like common courtesy to spend at least 50% of your daily reports on arty just for existing
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>>173882810
>reporting arty instead of TD players

Because it's always better to have half your team sitting at base jerking off behind bushes instead of just the three arty.
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>>173882810
I usually just let them die, arty can suck a dick.
>>173882614
Someone tweet Trump quick and inform him about the latest ethnic threat to our (cyber)security. I really do hope they get quarantine servers for them, Brazilians are the worst kind of subhuman trash there is. I pity thee who must deal with the Slavic, for they seem to be a perfect European analog for Brazilians
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>>173883529
>reporting TD players

da fug
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>>173883436
I will start reporting them once arty is removed from the game. For now we need to concentrate all our efforts on the first rate cancer before we move on to 2nd rate cancer.
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>i spend hours on tanks.gg trying to find the highest armour value possible to kill time
am i autism?
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>>173884602

___yes___
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>>173884602
so this is autism
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Real Euro Hours
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>>173882160
But i am the innerist inner circle which is so secret i am the only one in it
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so what's the current EU 4chin clan that actually earns some reward tanks and gold?
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>>173887449
read the op
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>my team gets 4 extra tier IX's
>team caps


>team is down 6 tier X's
>no one caps
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>>173887449
No /wotg/ clan regularly earns CW tanks.

Join a good clan.
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>>173887449
NOPAN got 14 reward tanks last campaign
they also farm some gold in turneys but i don't know anything about that since I can't be assed to play turneys
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>>173887449
If you want free cw tanks then join FAME if you're cute, G100 if you're polish scum or CSA if you're a drooling retard.
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>>173884602
>eurotards can't do basic trigonometry
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>>173887713
>Getting that abomination a cw tank
Mistakes were made
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>>173853592
Yes and it also had no side armor. The T-150 may have worse frontal armor but that's negated by the fact that your side armor is just as thick.
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>>173888197
Are you talking about loituma, lukefas, or ich?
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>>173888197
You get to choose which you want
>calling 121b abomination
DELET
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>>173888046
>when you're so tired of playing with your straya 3rd world dialup cunternet you roleplay as burger when its not even burger hours
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>>173888556
Install an operating system newer than 2007.
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>>173889083
stop huffing petrol
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Who is ready for tier 4 sealclubbing?
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Should I buy it? Is it a good tier 6 heavy?
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>>173890451
yes use the 105 and fire only gold
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>>173890451
There's no point.

The 50 100 and 50b are good but not worth the M4 45 and 50 120 grinds.
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>>173890814
I'm asking bout the tank, not the line.
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There is literally no one left in this game but chai snipers, bots, and argentinians.
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>>173891267
There's me.
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>>173887713
I see so this is where everyone from NOFUN went.
I am almost at is-3 so I will apply when I have that.
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>>173889245
what is that and how does it work?

>>173890451
it's great if you are good
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>>173891373

So are you a blue chai sniper or argentinian?
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>>173888329
>>173888342
Was referring to ich getting one. Atleast we know part of the reason he got a brain tumor
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>>173875904
You need to research it or have enough xp to unlock the tier 9 as soon as the patch goes out because its going to cost a lot more and actually be better
>>
>play pz IV H again after long time
>use derp
>for some reason every shot with direct line of sight gets a super high trajectory
>try m4 and kv2 with derp to test it out
>they both work normally

wtf is that shit why does the trajectory get fucked only on the IV H?
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>>173848883
its good when its top tier, you arent doing anything if you are bottom tier
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>>173888197
agreed, seonnut should not be allowed access to a computer, let alone a 121b
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>>173896926
Hes a mongol, the only thing they should be allowed to do is kill commies
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Join AWOO today!
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>>173897531
KYS today!
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>>173897531
no
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>>173897531
remove awoo
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Awoo needs to declare jihad on leafs. All they do is make us look even shittier than we already are
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>>173898102
>declaring jihad against other muslims
How does this work?
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>>173898627
The same way you can crusade and sack Constantinople.
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>>173897636
>>173897640
>>173897697
t. didn't get accepted
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>>173899569
Wrong
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>>173898627
>thinking there's only one type of muslim
>when there's like a million different christian denominations
Sometimes I forget you bongs are all forced to your shitty bongbeliefs. I thought you guys just had a refugee influx too? and haven't you been sharia'ing space with the slimes for the longest? You should know this shit by now Charles
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>never bothered with missions
>realize only lt15 left
>okay
>chose t37
>2nd try 2100 dmg done, 1900 spotted

feels good man

So how does the female crew work?
Can I retrain them on any other tank and country once I have decided or are they stuck with the tank/country?
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>>173902095

They are stuck with the country
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>>173902339
I see, so they work like regular crew once I have assigned them.
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>>173891565
>what is that and how does it work?
Two daily mission
17x 20k xp
17x 1 win in a platoon

Two mission you have 17 day to complete
5x Brother in arms
5x Crucial contribution

Like all tank reward mission each time you complete them you get 1 points and they can only be done in tank of tier IV or higher.
This is for NA I don't know if EU has them
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>>173902553

Yes
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>>173902339
>>173902692

Thank you mate.
Any idea on how to use the crew to the highest efficiency?

>>173902598
That explains why I couldn't find it on the page.
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>>173795116
I agree, anyone who disagrees is obviously reddit and should join them.
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who /outer circle/ here?
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>>173902932
tanks with least crewmembers to utilize having one perk more than others

generally use them in tanks you find useful or fun to play.
>>
Who /inner ouroboros/ here?
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>When your teammates cba leaving the spawn on ATTACK so you die.

Great fun thanks WG

http://wotreplays.com/site/3501889#teams
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>>173904193
sounds good, thx again
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>garlicfries
>>
Remember when GarlicFries was a cool guy?
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Hmmmmmmmm.
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>do the usual shitpost of "artillery players deserve the gas chambers" and other assorted racial slurs towards arty players
>no one even disagrees or criticizes the language anymore, just abysmal agreement
Huh, I'm thinkin
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>>173907653
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>>173907653
I am a time traveller.
*Stuns you and everyone around you instead of gibbing just you*
Feel what it's like to play against artillery in the next patch!
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>shit tier waifu
this thread deserves to die
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Friendly reminder of the good ol' days

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqUzWTK3Ox4
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>>173907653
It's impressive how arty hate has built up to such universal levels over the years.
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>>173915847
that was pretty good.
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>>173915847
>mahou
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>>173915847
this is embarrassing
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>>173915847
mahou says fuck as much as awoo says nigger
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>>173898102
What did I do this time?
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>>173907653
>Arty players spamming help because there's a flank open with a light/med spotted coming up it
>they coming! protect! one of the arty players types
>stfu skycancer someone else replies
>our arty get's slagged
>RETARDED FUCKING NOOBS the arty keys furiously
>my face when I had the enemy tank in my sights (I was kemping bush as a TD) but didn't fire until they got their arty kills

I smile whenever we're winning the game, but our arty is exposed and gets wasted. When we win but our arty gets killed, it feels like everything is right with the world.
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>>173917919
Leafs mearly existing is enough
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>>173918068
>arty didn't follow the team not realizing a flank is left open
He has only himself to blame
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>>173795116
>introduce tanks kinda like mediums
>except they're worse than mediums in every single way other than 0-60 acceleration


THAT is the issue at hand
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>>173920051

>have tanks that are worse than their counterparts but go fast and have high as af camo ratings
>and they've been fine
>now introduce tanks that break this status quo
>notice you broke it and revert back to the original standard, which has already been fine
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>>173920497
wait, you're retarded, right?

just look at the ru251, for example.
they're literally nerfing it after uptiering it.

so now it has the EXACT same match making as before, earns less exp because it doesn't always shoot tier+1 tanks but had to get nerfed to make the tier 10 lights look less crappy

why am I even replying, you must be false flagging. no one is this dumb
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>>173918223
Well fuck you too, buddy.
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>>173920728

tier8 scouts were supposed to be tier10 scouts, that's what it meant to be
scouts were at top tier at 8. i don't know what you're thinking that they're actually matched to tier8s. you're playing too much cw where they are op beasts
having more powerful new tier10 lights is some kind of gift; bringing these original top tiers down to tier9 deserves a nerf
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>>173920728
You might not have been around at the time but they did the exact same thing to the VK28.01. It used to be tier 5 and they nerfed the hell out of it because it's matchmaking was reduced by one. But they also moved it up a tier. So it saw the exact same tanks it always saw but was now complete garbage. They have largely left it in this garbage state and made it worse because they nerfed the 105 derp HEAT shells and HE in general.
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>>173915847
>tfw I almost joined MAHOU when they started in 2014 but I joined PLSGO instead
I don't have any regrets
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>>173921382
>having more powerful new tier10 lights is some kind of gift; bringing these original top tiers down to tier9 deserves a nerf

They weren't "top tier."
They were never "top tier."

They received BT9 MM. They were tier 8's that were effectively tier 9.
But they were still balanced according to specific tier 8 parameters, primarily in gun stats(caliber, accuracy, alpha, penetration).
Because they were technically still tier 8.

Except with the tier changes they basically upgunned them a little while also fucking them over on what was, originally, their niche.
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>>173923246
This tbqh

They lowered the skill ceiling so much with these new lights and the mm adjustments
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>Siegfried line in T28 proto
>get nuked from orbit (I'm behind a building) right after I shoot some T29
>next battle on Siegfried Line I'm attacked and despite the fact that I'm moving full speed I get killed by arty within 3 shots
How is this shit balanced again?
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>>173924791
>mfw I got one shotted in my 215b from full HP
2500 damage in one shot

I just love arty
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>when you activate it
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>>173925146
>sub 1500xp blogpost
real NA hours have begun
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>simultaneously grinding American td line and heavy line
Should I get the best engine on the T29?
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>>173907653
>War gaming makes tank class that can shot you with retaliative impunity
Gee I wonder why people are opposed to this stupid mechanic
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>play match
>watch hellcat, spershing, amx m4 45 repeatedly penetrate 300+ mm of armor

It's not even that wg rigs matches that bothers me. It's that they are so fucking unsubtle about it.

It's fucking insulting.
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>>173926485
Not if you don't have the gun and top turret.
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>>173925967
Are you that one faggot in AWOO that always posts about how much they hate NA?
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>tankrewards crates

>Receipt
>Vehicles added: T-28E with F-30
>Slots added: 1

>mfw i get a tank i'll probably never play but it was free
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>>173928254
Who's that?
>>
triple crew xp only for the first win or for all battles?
>>
>use a booster
>stuck with mongoloid teams and eat shit non stop
>don't use a booster
>play like a rockstar
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>>173905076
GF here
Man I miss special battles chat
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>>173921096
Canadians were fine. But for some reason they tried to become Australians and failed.
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>12 games
>11 losses
>4 games had a 75%+ chance of winning because my team had unicums
>still lost
I'm throwing my next 20 games and tk'ing arty.

Don't even fucking care anymore. If I get fucked by this nigger shit so does everyone else I get tossed in with.
>>
I've been in Q for tier 8 for the last 2 fucking minutes.

What the fuck is going on? I'm in a heavy tank.
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>>173939341
stop playing on SEA
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>>173939868
NA West.
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>>173939868
EU only have 5k online atm
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>2850 WN8
>47% winrate
Fuck you WG for trying to balance me
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>>173940789
STOP THE PRESSES! EU is confirmed dead!
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>>173942426
stop this
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>>173942537
Jetto is upset with me for posting AWOO all the time because he hates brown people. So I am going back to posting Mommy.

Sorry for ruining your thread everyone.
>>
arty players deserve to get cancer, live through the agony of chemo, knowing that it only makes them weaker and does nothing to halt the impeccable advance of cancer, see the despair in the eyes of loved ones, have their bank accounts drained by medical expenses, and die ugly in their own shit gasping for pain medication.
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>>173942958
No you should just stop posting shit.
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>>173943052
Fucking kill yourself nigger leaf.
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>>173796013
Not really, it's not as fun when you go up against tanks you can't cut their health in half with a shot
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>>173943123
or what
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>>173943291
:^)
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>>173943123
>has no arguments to refute me
>resorts to fallacies
Comical.

>>173943348
kys you nigger fetishist cuckold.
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>>173943380
>Unironically posting mongol slut.
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>>173943348
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>>173943485
I'm not the leaf. Why do you want a child to be your dommy? Why not someone more mature?
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>>173943485
>unironically posting slavshit
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>>173943554
Fuck off nigger.


You're not even mongol slut poster.
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>>173943554
tfw no /fit/ gf
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>>173943597
that's not me
>>
What's the point of the german tree?

>shit armor
>non-existant lower glacis
>engine front for easy incineration
>paper sides for easy ammo racking
>low pen so they can't damage anything frontally
>low damage on the off chance that they do somehow manage to pen
>massively tall for those easy superstructure shots
>what is camo?

Meanwhile american and slav tanks
>massive damage
>massive pen
>slav tanks have "poor accuracy" on paper but are actually more accurate than the reticle shows
>excellent camo
>low and tight design

Why not just remove the german tree?
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>>173944057
so that the slavs can remind everyone they single handedly won WWII with their superior tank technology. Reminder that the west had absolutely nothing to combet the IS-3 threat and that the T-34 is the greatest tank ever made. Slav bias doesn't exist their tanks are just to good.
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>>173944224
Stalin is in his heaven, all is right in the world
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>>173944057
>slav tanks have "poor accuracy" on paper but are actually more accurate than the reticle shows

This right here is how I know there's a programmatic russian and german bias.

If I'm in a german tank and I shoot while the reticle is still shrinking, even if an enemy tank fills it, my shot will go to the single pixel that isn't over the enemy tank.

Meanwhile when I drive my russian tanks, I can just take potshots and shots at long range with a huge reticle bloom and still land them reliably.
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>>173944370
Capitalist faggot get out.
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>Skill based matchmaking for Tiers 4-10
>Credits and experience rewarded is increased in line with the skill of players in the battle
>More skilled players in the battle, more experience/credits to keep higher skilled player payout in line with lower skilled players
>higher skill gives you more "weight" in the MM process
>MM priorities matching similarly skilled players first, and distributing players by skill equitably between teams secondly.
>Meds and heavies have their own slots in MM(WG was taking the piss when they said there weren't enough of them being played to do this but somehow there were enough TD's) - so no more 8 heavies vs 1 heavy battles
>Max 2 arty per team

There. I just fixed matchmaking. Aside from baby unicums crying because they can't farm easy damage anymore now that they're being matched against other unicums and better teams overall it's perfect.

Play better, get matched into higher skill battles that reward more credits/xp
Play worse get matched into lower skill battles where everything is easier but the rewards are less. It incentivizes self-improvement without punishing drooling mongoloids in the 3rd world playing on gateway PC's donated by UNICEF.
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>>173944983
What do you do with stock tank unicum players? put them in bottom tier and expect them to carry the weight?
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>>173945125
Same thing I do with everyone else in a stock tank.

Nothing.

But since they're unicum, they're more likely to know how to play well, to in actually play well, and being in the higher skilled battles, therefore receive more xp.
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Why is wargaming such fucktards? I just want my tier 10 lights, not some ultragimped mediums.
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>>173945253
>able to drive at 50kmh+
>guns as good as mediums
>better speed and maneuverability than meds therefore better able to bring their guns to bear on sides and rears

Remind me again why meds need to be ultragimped heavies, or ultragimped lights with no niche that can't better be filled by heavies or lights?
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>>173945253
>posting red chaika
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>>173944983
We just need MMR for each tier bracket so players will have something to do
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i got a stock t-54 lghtwght and im grinding as fast as i fucking can toward t-54. how long do i have before the patch, when is it implemented?
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>>173946260
18th NA
27th EU, RU
4th ASIA
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>>173946260
If NA the 18th.
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>be in tiger 1
>retards on my team flipping out that I'm "camping"
>one of them tells me to "get up there with the other heavies coward"
>my face when the tiger 1 has worse armor than mediums in it's tier, not to mention higher tiers.
>my face when these subhumans think the tiger 1 can just go trade punches with IS's, T29's, and KV's
>>
>>173946331
>>173946328
im in na, so i got everything cept engine today, started playing in afternoon. in this rate how long will it take for me?
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>>173946346
I always brawled with my tiger 1. Mind you this was before it got overhauled and the whole HD models so I don't know if it can still be an annoying fuck when side scraping. The real problem is that all the non premium tier 7 tanks are shit except the t29 and maybe the t20. The easiest solution is to ditch the retarded +/-2 mm and switch it to +/-1 as it should have been from the start. Its the same thing as tier 4 seeing tier 6 and tier 5 seeing tier 7. The power gap is huge in all values especially health and I know it exists solely to force grind. The only tier that could have that +/-2 is tier 8. But I know that won't happen because it forces grind and encourages paying to get to tier 10 on premium, premium tanks, and free xp. Yeah, it used to be worse but its not good enough in its current state. Especially when they do stupid shit like overbuff the maus and the type 4/5 heavies.

And maps won't get changed from dumb ass corridors because WG thinks its audience is too fucking retarded to handle anything more complicated, hence why every time you find a way to influence another corridor WG nerfs or removes it with a few shitty exceptions. And arty won't get removed because that would mean losing lines of potential profit and because fixing it by making the maps not shit so arty isn't needed would also require effort.
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>poke over ridge hulldown
>isu bounces off of my turret
>he gets spotted, he's sitting in the open
>watch him, being the retarded td-player he is, sit there doing nothing
>absolutely stationary for four seconds
>teammates start shooting him
>he dies in about two seconds
why do they ALWAYS do this?
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>>173947052
Tanks like the Tiger I and the FCM 50t can bounce a lot of shells when side scraping but they have difficulty returning fire and they're essentially screwed against an aggressive push.

I've seen an AMX 12t win a straight up DPM fight against a Tiger I, bouncing most of the Tiger's shots, reloading mid-fight and everything. I'm dead serious.

I guess this does kind of prove the point about tier VIIs, though.
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>>173947419
MUH SLAV BOOMSTICK
STALIN GUIDE MUH SHELL HEHEHEHE
Daily reminder mommy poster is an ISU fag
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>>173947573
I've once kicked Tig's ass in AT2

he probably was a retard, but still
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>>173947728
>some dumb retard with a paper tank and ass camo means I would do the same
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>play pz iv h again after leaving it in the garage for a long time
>already got 3 marks with the derp
>think of doing mt15 real quick with it
>game starts, camo my way to enemy base
>already got 3 tds in straight sight and heat loaded
>take a shot from about 400m away aiming for the side of some paper t4 td, expecting oneshot
>shot goes into space and overshoots the target by a mile
>shoot 3 more heat rounds that also go into orbit
>wat
>by now the retards on my team picked up on the spotted tds and steal my kills
>try a couple more rounds and it happens all the time, literally can't hit anything in a straight line anymore

did they change something about the pz4h derp? Why does that happen? It doesn't seem to happen with other derp guns.
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>>173951272
I know your pain, the key here is to git gud
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>>173951529
>git gud
>shells literally fly into orbit

That is out of my hand.
Guess I will just sell it, even though it was the first tank I ever got 3 marks on.
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>>173951624
>sniping 400m targets with derp 105mm
>shells miss

Rethink your actions and try again.
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>>173951815
So I suppose I am remembering it wrong, but when I played the m4 it always worked just fine even when I shot at stuff that is at the edge of visibility.
Though chances are, I played the iv h differently a long time ago and all the high tier games just changed my playstyle.
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>>173951976
This is patch 0.9.17.1. You can try playing M4 now and probably get the same result with derp
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>>173918068

>only one enemy 50b left with 200hp
>me in Object 140 full health
>enemy is approaching the only two other players in my team left, two cancer players
>they ping the map for my help
>type in all chat"hey 50b, i let you kill the artillery, ok?"
>he agrees and shits on the clickers
>kill him afterwards

>mfw
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>when 15 players barely pool 1k exp in total
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>>173952756
I think you are right, it must have something to do with the patch.
Just watched some old replays and the shells fly normally there.

Drew a picture of the issue. It's literally impossible to hit anything for me and it happen randomly at any distance.
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Any idea why I can't open up message tabs or clan chat in the garage?
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>>173953750
some bugged mod
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Is this a dead game?
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>>173955793
Yes, ww2 already over
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>>173953716
I think they nerf non fully aimed shoot
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So the Grille 15 is on console now.
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How do I scout?
I just got to tier 5 with Chaffee, whenever I get to a round with tier 8 people, they get mad at me.
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>when enemy top tier platoon has higher wn8 combined than all 14 of your teammates
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f48httY_r-8
>b-but fastykid is just a shill!
>he j-just gobbles up everything wg pumps out!
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Post balance
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>play tanks
>do badly
>lose

games so fuckin rigged, can't believe WG is so blatant about it, can you believe I actually BOUNCE shots while other people DON'T, so much fucking bullshit I'm so mad my churchill VII doesn't just autowin versus IS-3s so much russian bias broken game shit mechanics pay to win WHY DOESN'T EVERYBODY JUST LET ME WIN????
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>>173957914
Who are you quoting?
Why are you stuttering?
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The Revalorise is so much fun. Really unheard-of.
What is the point of the T34-3?
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>>173946260
rev up those reserves
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>>173958915
>limited MM
>tier X mediums camo
>some armorâ„¢
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>>173958168
>Lorraine has better base traverse, better hp/t and better ground resistance than 50 100
>still has worse traverse than 50 100 in reality

explain
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>>173946260
They changed it. With the new micro patch the ltwt can still unlock the t-54
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>>173959015
also ability to overmatch multiculti somalian wedge tanks
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>>173959710
Slower shell, tho. And Russian gun soft stats.
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>>173959585
What happened to this >>173958965 then? They remove the path from lttb?
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>>173959839
well yeah no shit, raviolis gun shits all over T-34-3s gun, can't argue with that
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So i have now amx1390, after update 1390 goes to tier 9, but do i get the new tier 8 for free?
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>>173960502
>do i get the new tier 8 for free
of course you don't
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>>173960502
>there are idiots asking the question that has been answered six million times already and takes 4 second to google
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>>173960675
No sense fighting it, it's EU hours, the thread is going to be filled with retards
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>>173957174
When people yell at you for not scouting, its really just a sly way for them to shift blame 90% of the time. On the other hand, they may also simply want you to rush into the enemy and die so they can get free damage. Either way, if they can't spot for themselves in t8 or find a way around their shitty situation, that's their own problem. Never listen to what randoms have to say, its never going to help you improve, only make you feel worse about yourself.

As for actually learning, look up some guides or something. The first steps are really just learning maps and areas you can spot from safely along with basic survival skills so you can last until the late game where you can really throw around a bigger weight.
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>>173959914
Same thing.The tier 8 still goes to the t-54.
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>>173957174
You don't
Sell that Chaffee and buy an M4 instead.
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>>173956023
That might be it, gotta test that.
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Exp for blocked damage when?

https://a.safe.moe/G9Eh7.webm
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>tfw elc will become useless
>tfw even more worried about what will happen to t37, the only light good enough to actually carry games
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>>173965178
>Light will go back to shit tier
Welcome to world of medium tanks and clickers son. Now with 100% more corridor and 50% less bush.
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>when your biggest shill goes ham on its master

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f48httY_r-8
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armoured warfare will KILL wot!
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>>173944057
Germans have good armor for city maps. They're also huge and you use that to hold down teams on corrididors
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>>173963362
>people still don't just pull up to the sides of nip tanks
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>>173965178
Join console. There are no nerfs to light tiers in sight. In fact, Bert got nerfed just recently. They reduced his mobility and increased its size apparently.

https://a.safe.moe/yzBfS.MP4
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>>173969619
The Sherman and that american heavy further ahead provided good crossfire while I was eating the shots. Kudos to them.
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I've researched the russian mediums and I wanna jump to the heavy tree, any reason not to do so? I have extra xp on my t-34-85 so it seems like the easiest way to go
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>Chaffee view range getting slashed down from 390 to 360.
Why even live?
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>>173970380
>Why even live?
To feed the whole enemy team
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really makes you think
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>>173970380
RIP best tier V scout
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>>173970380

Scout tanks not being able to scout, mediums out spotting lights, what is going on with this game?
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>>173920497
>3-5% better camo on average, worse in everything else
>WOOH WOOH, THOSE TANKS ARE TOO FUCKING OP
KYS
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>>173973592
>implying light are for scouting now
press R twice and go toward the enemy once arty is set up tovarisch
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>>173970051
I would go up the IS7 line first, then take the IS4 line. The IS4 line is just more comfortable when you do that
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So console is confirmed as the better version now?
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>>173973592

WG thinks that if scout tanks can see good, then the light tanks would just load rammers, vents, and gun stabilizers and go full ham on the enemies instead of being the little bush spotters they were suppose to be.

>They had a large enough view range to scout efficiently by default. So, you could install additional equipment, train skills and perks to increase their firepower to the point where they could compete with medium vehicles.

>We averaged out their firepower to draw a thicker line between these two classes in terms of their combat roles.

>At the same time, their firepower was reduced and is lower than that of medium tanks. It’s enough to retaliate yet isn’t enough to make dealing damage their first priority in combat.

https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/918_second_common_test/


>WG believes that light tanks should not be able to carry
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What am I in for? Also, the 150mm cannon all the way to the Type 4 Sumo or should I switch to the improved 100mm with 215pen once I've unlocked it?
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>>173975376
It's a damage sponge with very subpar guns
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>>173975268
>WG believes that light tanks should keel and die the moment they are spotted
Fixed that for you
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>>173976613
WG always over nerfs stuff. Look at the kran. Nerfed to near worthlessness.
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>>173977017
Or overbuff to the point that it fuck everyone else over. This iteration of the Maus gives me flashback.
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>>173791839
world of tanks oreimo edition
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>>173945416
greens and below may NOT post here
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>>173969768
but that would make me a peasant
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>>173971817
>t8
>232 ap pen
>fast
>camo
>view range
>depression
>superior to regular t8
>superior even to t9

yeah that really makes one think how much the game turned into p2w the last couple months
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MURICA, FUCK YEAH
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5hsnta_m26-pershing-4-6k-damage-ace-tanker_videogames
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So the totally-not-LEGO Cromwell comes with a code for the Cromwell B, right? I'm considering buying it as it is cheaper though not cheap for the moment.
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>>173982464
>So the totally-not-LEGO Cromwell comes with a code for the Cromwell B, right?

you could at least pretend not to be retarded
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>>173983040
I am not pretending to be retarded, I AM retarded. That and my first picture doesn't specifically say it gets a Cromwell B code, but then there is pic related. So do I get a Cromwell B?
>wejustdontknow.jpg
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How is leopard 1 line from medium?
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>>173978465
>232 pen
god forbid they don't gimp a tank's pen simply because it's a premium
>camo
is not good
>view range
are you seriously going to pretend 380 meters view range is too much?
>depression
there is nothing wrong with having eight degrees of gun depression
>superior to regular t8
to a lot of them, what's wrong with that?
>superior even to tier 9
the lorraine 40t is inferior to every tier 9 medium and heavy tank in the game, you're retarded
this was so much better than releasing another heavy tank with tier 8.5 performance. The lorraine 40t is not pay to win; it doesn't coddle noobs or make them invulnerable to lower tiers. this is a step in the right direction
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>>173984059
You'll need a bigger bait
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Is there any point grinding the T110E4 for the On Track event, or is it just going to get penned by everything it sees?
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>>173984619
You'll need a bigger brain
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im going down american and russian medium lines.

should i get super pershing or t54 first prototype
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>>173985854
The spershing is better.


The T-54 first proto is just a slower t-44
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>>173985854
One's Russian in a Russian made game, the other can be penetrated through it upper plate with a big enough gun
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>>173985654

I have a T30 and i pretend that the T30 is the end of the line, since if the T30 kills a tier 10 it counts as killing a higher-tier tank.

That and the T30 can actually fucking turn its gun all the way around.
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>>173791839
i wanna rape kirino-chan!
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>>173985854
Please get the T-54 Prototype. Anyone who says the Super Pershing is good is actually autistic as fuck.
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>>173986059
>>173985854
literally first game with it

me likey
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>>173986698
>yellowshitter using as many crutches as humanly possible
>gets angry because someone else doesnt feed him damage

ROFL
O
F
L
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WE WUZ SOLDIERZ N SHIET
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>>173986698
anyone wanna tell the mechanics of how teammates turn blue?
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>>173988113
accidental vs intentional
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>>173988343
how does the game know?
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>>173988413
leo only shoot once :^)
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>>173984059

THE LORRAINE 40t IS INFERIOR TO EVERY TIER 10 MEDIUM AND EVEN THE MAUS WOAH IT IS COMPLETELY SHIT.
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>>173988515
so if teammate is blue that means its okay to kill him?
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>The Löwe is the new meta on tier 8

What happened to this world?
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>>173988601
Yeah
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>>173988547
the person I replied to claimed that it was better than tier 9's, so I told him he was wrong. I also never said it was bad, brainlet.
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When does the game check for the boosters?

If my booster expires while I'm in a battle do I not get the boost from it?
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>>173989034
you do
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>>173989034
You will get the bonus if booster expired mid game
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>>173989034
if there is 1 min left and you click BATTLE you still get the boost after the battle
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>>173984059
It's superior to both t8 and t9 of the french mediums and heavies because people don't pay for those. Same thing for the m4 49 heavy. Same thing for defender and t26e5.

4 tanks that are pay2win and outshine anything else on the tier and are at least on par with t9.
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JUST IN
>t37 still tier 6 but now only 126/160 pen

rip in piece sweet prince
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>fantasy league prize comes it
im liking it
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>>173971817
it keeps happening
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>>173990786
it also has better MM you retard, now it faces T4s as top tier

Im glad they let the T71 keep its auto loader
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>>173991186
t. some nub that has never played cw
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>>173990204
That's wrong. It's better than the 13 90 obviously, but Lorraine 40t vs 50 100 is contentious. The BC ap and AMX 50 120 are both vastly superior to the Lorraine (and the m4 49)
I don't understand what you mean by "because people don't pay for those."
>Same thing for defender and t26e5
The defender is better than the t-10, t-54, and 430v2? The t26e5 is better than the m103, m46, and t54e1? None of these tanks are nearly as good as their national tier 9's. The 252, 26e5, and m4 49 are all better than nearly every tier 8 excepting the VK100, IS-3, 50-100, etc., which is why I think the Lorraine, which isn't the best tier 8 medium, is a step in the right direction. It doesn't powercreep anything out of favor both because it's not as overpowered as the other recent premiums and because mediums have already been pushed aside by heavy tanks. VBA gives the lorraine a winrate that's between the Liberte and the 252/Defender at around 52%, so people are certainly doing well with it now, but that's subject to change. T26e5 is the only tank that has maintained an absurd global winrate (between 53% and 54%) since it came out. Lorraine could be good for the meta
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>>173991782
>playing tier 6 clan wars

How red are you?
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>>173991782
>cw
who cares what you do in your free time. awooshitter
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>>173992063
mate the lorraine literally has the same gun as the ap, more depression, same view range, more ammo, same speed, even slightly better armor that at least helps against overmatch in some cases and all of that at 1 tier lower --> 40t > 25t ap

it also has the same gun as the 50 120, but is faster, armor difference doesnt matter since the 120 has no armor anyway and all of that again 1 tier lower --> 40t > 50 120

same thing for the other 3 new t8 prems, even löwe is now better than the other t8 german heavies

they are obviously better because people as dumb as you are paying for it and then feel good because you beat the standard tanks that are statistically worse
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>>173992523
>>173992717
t. scrubs that have less than 20m credits and 10k free gold on their accounts right now
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>>173971817
do bad players ever look at the postgame and feel shame? every time i look at a loss and i'm 3x more damage than the next guy i quietly sob
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>>173993063
Yeah I did. I always had an excuse to do 0 dmg to not feel bad about myself.

AWOO
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>>173993270
>i only have a 46% because i get shit teams
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>>173993372
I also blame my shit luck and arty
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>>173791839
can someone add me to help me pick a tank line? thanks

Ign: Hydesdelca
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>>173992717
>muh awoo boogeyman!
lmaoing @ ur life
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>>173992063
>Moving the goalposts
What's next, ad absurdum?
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>play 20 battles
>teams is always filled with oranges with 1 or 2 yellows
>enemy team is always filled with yellows and greens with 1 or 2 blues
>lose 17 of them
>win 3

>play 20 more battles
>team is filled with greens and yellows and 1 or 2 blues
>enemy team is filled with reds and oranges, with 1 or 2 yellows
>win 16 of them
>lose 4

Explain this shit. You cannot convince me that WG doesn't have matchmaking setup to fuck over people who only play a few games a day, and reward people who stick around and play more.
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>>173994474
Yea they do. Do you not understand averages?
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>>173992791
BC ap is a smaller, faster tank with a larger magazine, more dpm, and far better camouflage. In addition to all that, as a tier 9, it has 300 more hitpoints. You'd have to be an absolute moron to mention the Lorraine's armor when comparing it to the BC - making an poor judgment, I must add, as the BC's layout makes it both harder to hit and easier to simply detrack as opposed to damaging it - and subsequently dismiss the differences in armor between it and the 50 120 a single sentence later. The 50 120 has enormous tracks which absorb damage at a 45 degree angle, and the 100mm plates add more anti-overmatch protection than the Lorraine's do. By the way, the 50 120 has a 120mm gun (so 257 standard pen and much higher dpm), more gun depression, and 450 more health. To say that either of these tanks are worse than the Lorraine is just bonkers. They've already set themselves onto this path by releasing premiums that are good tanks, this is so much better for the game than any of the heavy premiums were. As I said before, Lorraine isn't even the best tier 8 medium. Buying a good tank is not paying to win.
>>173994362
>addressing the opponent's points is moving the goalposts
Feel free to read the reply chain and follow the discussion. If I were to concede that the Lorraine was a pay to win tank and then ask him what's wrong with WG making pay to win tanks, I would be moving the goalposts. Nothing I've said has moved the goalposts, all of it concerns the points he raised in his initial claim that it was pay to win.
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ah yes E-75 so nice to play
big and strrong like tuff man but quick from years of experience when needs be
big angles make look tuff not like ugly russian tank
has curvs like vooman yuck why drive
enemy far? shoot
enemy close? shoot
ah yes E-75
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post tanking music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPrzkkbxFeQ
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>>173996141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsdawgd0azk
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That has nothing to do with averages. You need to go back to primary school and learn what that word means.
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>skorp plat sitting on redline
>they're the last alive with 1 kill between them
>"shit team"
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>>173997165
Yea it does. If you play more games you will see more games from both ends of the spectrum. It balances itself out to keep you from winning because of your inability to carry.
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>>173993968
Are you on EU or NA?
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>>173997716
Except that green, blue, and purple players are consistently matched with other greens blues and purples.

That's not averages. That's intentional programmatic team stacking.
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>>173995178
The fact that you have to grasp for straws to explain why a t8 tank is barely any worse than the t9 equivalent already shows how ridiculous the new t8 prems are. It just shows that you think its perfectly normal that the standard t8s are now all objectively worse than the prems. But that is exactly what the greedy jew devs want.
Also ultimately every tank comes down to its gun and how fast it can get that into position and in that regard the 40t is equal to both the 50 120 and the 25t ap, basically giving you a 1 tier advantage that you have to pay for.

Just a year ago all t8 prems had advantages and disadvantages - now they are just plain superior.
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>>173998117
If you were a green, blue or purple player that wouldn't be a problem now would it?
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>>173998117
the color scales are 3rd party, mm is completely random and certainly doesn't take wn8 into account
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Page 8 bump
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>>173996141
aikatsu
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>>173999217
I layed out the basic characteristics of both tanks to explain why they're better than the Lorraine, no straws were grasped. Even if you were to buff the gun characteristics and the hp before moving the Lorraine to tier 9, it would be the worst tank in tier, excluding TDs and artillery. As it stands, there are four or five tier 8 meds that the Lorraine is not obviously better than, so you can hardly say that it's pay to win. Of the characteristics you listed, its mobility and its penetration are the only two that are decidedly above average. With 380 meters view range, it ranks with the lowest "group" of tanks. Only one tank has less than 380, that being the 54 mod 1. With eight degrees of gun depression, it is one of around 14 (out of 28 readily available unique tanks) tier 8 medium tanks that do not have 10 degrees. I don't know why you mentioned the camo, as it's awful. It doesn't have glaring flaws, as many premiums tanks of the past do, but it's not overpowered.
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>>174002879
So you admit that this t8 tank is only slightly worse than other t9 tanks and you don't even dare to even mention other t8 tanks because it's obvious that the t8 game has turned p2w in the last few months. Glad you agree.
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>>174002879
Okay I understand. it's okay for wg to sell premium tank that is better than regular tank. Not even regular tank is OP except the newer one
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>>173999808
>mm is completely random
Prove it. I have proof that it isn't.

>>173999319
I am green on my primary account, it's still shitty how WG has it setup.
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>>174005517
>I am green
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>>173994474

I usually experience the opposite. The first few battles of the day are with a bunch of windowlicking fucktarded morons. The more I play, the more blues and purples I start to encounter. :\
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thanks plsgoyims
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im purple so I see myself on my team all the time
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>>174007267
im purple too
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im teal
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>>174007863
shitterrrr
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>>174008043
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>>174004532
That is a very poor interpretation of my post.
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>>174007142
I'll give you $5 if you get me a cw reward tank.
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>>174005517
The MM delibrately groups you with less experienced players when it feels you do too well
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>>174008702
...so tell him what you meant, or how he misinterpreted what you were trying to say?
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Why is the Revalorise so good?
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>>174009358
idk it's just so fun to play

that alpha damage is intoxicating
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>>174009358
Because you paid $40+ for it.
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>when enemy feeds you damage just when you need it the most
feels good
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>>174011504

As far as I remember, it cost me 6120 gold during the last rebate
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Have 4 days to grind 100k in the RU
Send help plz
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>>174014402

50 games maximum
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>>174014402
100k credits? What for?
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Do you buy equipment for tanks you're grinding through and don't plan on keeping?
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>>174016215
exp want the leoP before the RU route goes away
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>>174016352
Yea.

No one wants to play a shit tank
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>hurr let's camp the corners of the map and never move

TD players are scum
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>>174017032
You just well the equip with the tank afterwards then?

Seems like a waste of gold to bother demounting.
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>>174018378
30 gold is literally nothing
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>>174018524
>literally nothing
gold is literally real money.
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>>174018524
how many hundreds of dollars have you spent on this free to play game?
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>>174018831
30 gold is worth approximately 16 cents

it takes 1 minute to earn 30 gold in a minimum wage job
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>>174018831
>what is CW
>what is tournaments
Got 3.5k gold from CW this month by barely even playing at all.
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>>174019170
seriously i made 3k or something gold in a t6 tourney 2 years ago and i still have 1400 left
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please let me be the awoo cum dumpster

t. reabodep
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>>174014402
you will still be able to get the pta through the tier 8
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>>174020121
Did they change their tree? I dont want to have to grind the poopanzer
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>>174020483
Tech Tree Changes

Added transition from M41 Bulldog to T54E1;
Added transition from HWK 12 to Leopard PT A;
Modified USSR Tech Tree structure.
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>>174020619
Is it still going to be 183k from t8 light to leoP?
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>Team melt like butter
>T-28E is credit to his team and tie me up while the Panzer cap
>Churchill call me a loser
Those teams mane
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>>174019240
>>174019170
oh ok so you buy gold constantly gotcha.
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>>174022139
what's with your p4h icon? I looks red and inflated like you pasted it in.
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>>174022327
GuP skins
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>>174021414
idk
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ded
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American tanks are best tanks!
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>>174027334
German tanks are the worst tanks
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>>174027334
>cow tits

life as a patriotic flat chest connoisseúr is hard
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>>174027429
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i miss spoiled little white boy Samcyanide
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Why is US West better than East?
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>>174028287
West has a higher concentration of retards, so you can carry every game
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>>174027536
>fat chicks
fatties that carry their weight in weird spots are even worse than fatties with their weight evenly distributed.
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>tfw no platoon for dailies
Please send help I need someone to carry me.
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>>174028618
>needing to be carried
Everyone in this thread is a 4k unicum get out
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am i a blue or a unicum???
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>>174028797
green
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>>174028719
I'm a poor green man anon.
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Are vents even a noticable difference in performance or are they just a meme equipment that people just say to use and no one questions it?
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>>174028581
Ooooo
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>>174029342
nothing besides vstab/rammer is noticeable
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>>174029420
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>>174027334
Japanese tanks are the best tanks!
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>>174029342
If you combine it with BiA the effect on your crew and tank performance is pretty noticeable desu.

I think it's a total 7.5% efficiency increase with both those things
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>>174028287
east has been ass for awhile with huge lag spikes. west doesn't have those issues
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>>174029420
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>>174029907
Are you fucking nuts?
E 141
W 180
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>>174030051
and? east still has random lag spikes that west doesn't get, playing on east these past months has been terrible. better off playing west
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>>174030347
t. cuck
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>>174019270
S E N D
D I C K
P I C S
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>>173966663
Now I know why NA will get to play the patch a week earlier
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Why is it I never see any players doing well in the jagdpanther, jagdtiger, tiger 1, ferdinand, panther, panther 2, jagdpanther 2, or king tiger 2?
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>>174033984
because you don't see me play
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>>174029685
That's some DERP caliber
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>>174033984
>
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>>173829571
may Saint Emil bless u, son
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>>173829571
One of my retard friends calls its the "Stuart Emil"


I hate him so much
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>>174036550
kek
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>>174033984
There should be no good reason for anyone ever doing poorly in a JP or JPII. Past that, however, I always perform quite well in the Panther and Panther 2. I would even go so far as saying that the Panther 2 is one of the better t8 meds, but that's just me.
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>>174033984
The Panther is terribad
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>>174033984
average
too slow to carry
retard bait
no armor
retard bait
retard bait
this one is good
retard bait
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>>174033984
Panther is ok. Every tank has its moment to shine in the right circumstances, but I don't think it and the Panther 2 are really spectacularly bad. They have shortcomings but are just overall mediocre.
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>>174028797
wotlabs color?
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>>174012313
I despise high tier TDs, you may as well be artillery. Not that I have trouble taking them down just 1,500 damage from a single shell is utter nonsense
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tfw there is no OCE clan :(
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>>174038189
Post your stats
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>>174038582
Everything is very bad, the worst matter of fact; I don't want to hurt your eyes
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Page 7.
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>>174039546
/ded
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>>174038662
>38662>>174038582
>Everything is very bad, the worst matter of fact; I don't want to hurt your eyes


lol
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>>174040248
>Yellow
At least you aren't red
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>>174040581
>>174040248
HEHHHH
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>>173828294
the stock grind is painful
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>>174040645
Are you a robot?
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>>174041084
No, I have been playing on and off since 2012 and I play extremely casually; but recently I was bothered to start trying to get good
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>>174016834
>tardpard
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Anyone else love when MichaelWhittman1969 in his fully kitted Tiger 1 sits on the red line?
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>>174044959
delete this
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Why are there so many T25 Launchpad McQuacks driving around? Is it good?
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>>174045337
it is free
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>>174045337
Pretty much a worse Patton KR/ Pershing/ STA-1/2.
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How can anyone even drive that T25 Pilot more than once? The shell velocity is terribad.
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>>174048696

t. orange
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Lorraine is bretty comfy.
1.2k drum is a bit awkward at times, and the HE pens are terrifying.
Arta thirst is almost worse than in Jap meds.

But a bretty gud tank desu.
Not as OP as a freedom burger or slavbrick, but stronk.
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you guys think they'll change the lights again before the patch drops or are they just intentionally killing this game?
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>>174051559
>Light tanks actually worth a damn
>People that aren't shit at the game abuse the camo and mobility, just like they already do with mediums, to great effect
>Knee jerk nerf the shit out of them
>Give them worse gun stats than T8 mediums and worse veiw range than current T10 mediums.
>While having 0 armour and really low HP
>Actually having to nerf the light tanks that are getting moved from T8 to T9 so they aren't better than the freshly nerfed T10 ones

They should stop listening to the reds.
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>>174051559
They're trying to cater to bad players with money to keep them around and spending.
The problem is, you can't actually cater to bads without turning your game into a literal slot machine, or an interactive movie. There's not much to be done with people who just can't get good at video games.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN3HGCN0POQ
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pls lib
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Ded general
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for all you scrubs out there: dying doesn't help your team win.
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Have you noticed how the VK 100.01 P just shits on lower tiers? Why are they putting tanks like that in the game?
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>>174058780
>higher tier tank is better than lower tier tank
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>>174058887

>licking door knobs is illegal on other planets
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>>174058950
>making shitposts instead of letting the thread die
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>>174058752
what if i die together ramming the last enemy tank?
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>>174059284
Pretty sure that's a draw
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>>174059338
not if other players on my team are alive. the only reason to suicide ram someone for a draw is if you are both one shots and they will reload first.
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it took me 400 battles to ace this fucker but I finally did it
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>easter
>have a day off
>already x5 all my progress tanks
>want to continue playing with my new favorite med
>don't play because too many retards making the game even more of a roulette than usual
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What are some fun tier 6 tanks?
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>>174063728
cromwell, cromwell b
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>>174063728
>>174063949
Should have add "aside from Cromwell"
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>>174063728
T-34-85
30.01P
30.01D, german cromwell
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>>174063728
Hellcat
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If IS7 and other soviet heavies are garbage now because of super heavies, am I suppose to just farm the MAUS?
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>>174063728
KV-2
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>>174062037
>400 battles
>ace
>first MoE
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>>174063728
bert
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>>174063728

Strv 74
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>>174065645
or use defender which is t8 but has better frontal armor profile than is7

>be in kv4 to grind for is4
>t10 game
>better load apcr with 289 pen
>oh look a maus
>pen lower plate easy
>oh look a defender
>aim at lower plate
>pen calculator tells me the effective armor of its lower plate is over 330mm
>but the cheeks... nope 300mm+
>but the turret... 500mm wtf

inb4 pen the sides that only have 160mm effective with le bouncy strip of bounceconium inbetween that will eat at least 50% of the shots thanks to rng
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>>174066204
The Fatherland is pretty difficult to get two marks on since everyone and there brother has it, but I'm at 80% on it now.
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>>174066204
>everyone on console is shit
>get mastery within first 100 battles guaranteed always
It's pretty fun desu, all the console kids have the COD mentality, so they rush to their deaths. To be fair though, it's usually 29v1 unless you play in toons.
Oh and if you're NA east, be prepared to deal with the fucking Brazilians
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>>174028797
teal
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>>174066985
>console kids have the COD mentality
Maybe in lower tiers
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>>174066985
this>>174067329

Tier 10 is a waffletraktor and deathstar campfest.
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>>174067329
>>174067424
I don't have that many tier 10 games played, maybe 1000 out of all my games, but it doesn't seem that bad. When I was taking my bat out today, I saw a few Grille, but they all played closer ranged than the fags in the loltraktor. It seems their accepted meta is to play medium like the T25/2
I rarely run into bushcamping homos, but when I do, a small part of me dies on the inside.
I might free exp up the line to get the Grille and loltraktor while they're doing the on track, its time to be as cancerous as I can be, gotta get that little bit of WN8 to become purple
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>>174068049
I'm pretty disgusted with how many people free XP'd to the grille but not everyone is broke like me I guess.
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>>174068676
Meh, I get my tax return in a week or so, so that's an extra 5 grand in my pocket.
That, plus I dropped the soul stealing succubus from my life, so I got plenty of free dollary-doos to spend around desu.
I enjoy this game and play it more than all the games I actually purchased, so the 700 or so I've thrown into it recently doesn't feel that bad.
Plus, tank variety just makes the game more fun, I have no idea how people can "main" a tank. Like, have a favorite tank sure, mine personally is the Sherman and all it's derivatives, but play 20k games in a Cromwell Knight? fuck that shit, I'd go insane just grinding one line at a time
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>>174052228

I understand new Lights have insanely high hp/ton engines now. 40+ hp/ton (even +61hp/ton) where before most high tanks are under 21hp/ton. Like bullets, they get where the player wants to go on demand.

But i think its the slow thinking players, who cannot drive these new lights in perfect spots, on demand. That WG are thinking about when nerfing lights.

New lights can and will cycle death heavies, can and will dodge into dips at any slope angle, can and will get in pop, and dodge. New lights can thread needles quickly.


Had lights guns compared even near mediums, mobility would create a situation there light players who are already good in area shooters, would not just outplay heavies and mediums, but out-play the average slow-thinking player, because the arcade-shooter player now has the tools (new light tanks) to control the pace and outcome.

So its not the viewrange or gun performans domains. But the agility and control performance WG is thinking about.

That agility stunt shit seen in GUP? New light tanks can make such moves, but you need the talent too and the majority is not, the minority will dominate.
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>>174070292
>Plus, tank variety just makes the game more fun, I have no idea how people can "main" a tank.


I agree but sometimes I get really invested in the crew and love ranking them. I'm trying to have an officer in each nation
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>>174070370
>Light tanks can go fast!
>Therefor they shouldn't be able to do anything else
>They shouldn't even have better veiw range than mediums

????
The nerfed light tanks might as well just be reskinned T8 ones with a turbo on them.
Pointless.
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>>174071006
So far I've only noticed the incredible improvements in my chink crew. After finishing my bat grind, I decided to enjoy some games in the Type 59. 5 skills later and it's pretty much a baby T-54, even better because PMM.
Other than that, my chieftain crew has the most skills, and that tank was always good so I never noticed any extreme improvement
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>>173944224
>Reminder that the west had absolutely nothing to combet the IS-3 threat
Just wait until the armor falls off because it's shoddily engineered trash.
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>>174071685
This reply not only ignored all points made and misunderstood by stereotypes the information, but also added nothing to the conversation.


New lights mobility now surpass the slime-like motion of all tanks in the game before it. New lights can now exploit positions knowing they cannot be countered in time.

New lights can do motions never seen before in the game, they are wasted if the player drives them in the normal positions, camp spot, or attempt trades in the old corner camping style.

You get in, sight and/or take one shot, and get out.

This all because they can move into the total timeframe of: enemy attention -> reaction time ->turret time -> aimtime -> shell speed, of the opponents.

New lights can find a flank, drive in it under fire , can actually DODGE shots with a little random zigzaging, and out perform the turret motions of heavies and mediums.

New lights should be finding locked heavy flanks, loop between the heavies, get behind, drift turn 180, nail a shot, then return back on the friendlies side. Because only the new lights move fast enough to do it in the time it takes the enemy to respond.


I will enjoy ass blasting heavies with the new Sheridan, and enjoy bringing confusion and panic between heavies.
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>>174074301
Easier said than done. Enemy have light tank too
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>>174074301
>I will enjoy yoloing heavies with the new Sheridan, and enjoy dying doing nothing because I thought my fat ass could weave through heavy

Fixed that for you
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>>174074301
>New lights should be finding locked heavy flanks, loop between the heavies, get behind, drift turn 180, nail a shot, then return back on the friendlies side. Because only the new lights move fast enough to do it in the time it takes the enemy to respond.
ur a witty lil cunt ill give u that m8
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>Page 10
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when will more autistic german superheavies be added?
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>>174078452
It's fine
As long as this game keeps making money this general will never truly die, we'll be around long after all these memegames die
>>
>trusting burgers to keep a thread alive
>>
>install game after half a year
>new t8 premiums have t9 stats
>defender actually has comparable armor to is7

welp that was a short episode, game is officially p2w now, time to uninstall
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9.17.1
AMX 13 90
HP/Ton 23.5
Tier 6, 38 base track traverse 1.6 soft terrain resistance.
Tier 8, 40 base track traverse 1.4 soft terrain resistance.
Effective turn rate on soft ground. 30.26 degrees per second.

9.18
AMX 13 90
HP/Ton 31.5
Tier 8, 38 base track traverse 1.6 soft terrain resistance.
Tier 9, 40 base track traverse 1.4 soft terrain resistance.
Effective turn rate on soft ground. 26.06 degrees per second.


Explain this?

Also, I know it has been brought up but why are they nerfing the view range. Tier 8 lights now are effectively tier 9 right now (if you disagree explain how this works: http://wiki.gcdn.co/images/a/a0/Matchmaking_Chart.png ).

Assuming wargaming wants to continue the trend of high tier lights being knife fighters (which is supported by the way 9.18 is shaping up). And medium tanks being scouts and main battle tanks (which is again supported by the way 9.18 is shaping up). Given this, I can get them trying to re-balance high tier lights to account for the new light tanks. But I don't agree with all of their choices for how they have done this. Frankly, I don't agree with the choice to make light tanks knife fighters because they are going to get wrecked by everything given the map and tank meta going on unless players are willing to wait until half of each team is dead before they do anything. Otherwise, light tanks are second rate scouts.
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>>174082752
Cmon mate. It's obvious that they make them shit to then release new t8 prem lights that will perform like t10s.
Game is pretty much at its last straw.
>>
What is the most aggressively and needlessly unfun tank in the entire game and why is it the Archer?
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>>174075067
>>174075802

Old world shitters posting these replies. Ignore their red stats mindset.

>>174082752
This guys mind is starting to awaken.

Knight fighters.... i like the term. And extreme risk-reward.

New scouts can disrupt the small safe-spaces between enemies tanks when the moment is right.

If a scout can get in and aim for critical damage over hp damage, or to panic enemies to lose focus on friendly tank that will strike the new weak openins, it might collapse fronts.
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>>174085392
>knight fighters
Come again?
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>>174085392
>>174070370
could this poster be more green?
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>>174085392
Stop shit posting any time now.
The last 2 where at least amusing.
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>>174086080
>Green
Straight up yellow, high on anime more like.

Thinks new light tanks are going to fly across the map at 200kph, dodging enemy shots as they "nuthin personel" enemy heavies before flying away again.
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>>174086265
I'm pretty sure this is just shitposting. I think it's pretty funny though, so I don't mind. It mostly reads like a satire piece.
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Which one look the best?
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>>174086654
The one where you replace the normal VK model with a proper Panther model.
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>>174086654
I am fond of the upper left paint job with second best being the lower left.

If memory serves, the upper right is historical(I am too lazy to look it up).
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>>174082752
The 9.17.1 amx has a stock engine of 250, fully upgraded of 350.

9.18 has a stock of 400, fully upgrade of 470.

Increasing the power to weight of a tank increases its turn rate, and the 9.17.1 gets a larger relative increase from its stock to maxed out values.
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>>174087534
God, I love stealth nerfs.

Frankly, I doubt it is even intentional.
Wargaming seems to have lost their collective minds as to how best to design their game. In my opinion, most development teams on most games have too.
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>>174087965
>he doesn't think confusingly implemented hidden stats are good design
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>>174087534
But that doesn't make sense since he already listed both the terrain resists and power to weight in the original post.

The new version, while having the same resists and a higher hp/t, was slower to turn.

It sounds like you are saying that the old version had a larger increase in hp/t when you upgraded the engine, and that is why it turns faster.
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>>174087189
the top two are both historical.
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>>174089167
>It sounds like you are saying that the old version had a larger increase in hp/t when you upgraded the engine, and that is why it turns faster.

That is exactly how it works, yes.
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>>174089645
Wait, is that ACTUALLY how it works in the game?

Because the only values that should matter are the total hp/t, track traverse and ground resists.
The amount that hp/t increases should be irelevant.
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>>174090123
>http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics#Hull_Traverse_Speed
Tr = Tn x (Ec / Es) x (Rh / Rx) x (Ws / Wc) x Pc
Tr = Real traverse speed (deg/s)
Tn = Nominal traverse of a tank, including bonus from clutch breaking, drivers' skill and consumables (deg/s).
Ec = Current engine horsepower (HP) including any bonuses from equipment and consumables.
Es = Stock engine horsepower (HP).
Rh = Tank's terrain resistance on hard terrain, including bonuses from Ventilation, Brothers in Arms, Off Road Driving and consumables.
Rx = Tank's terrain resistance for terrain one is calculating traverse for, including all the bonuses.
Ws = Weight of stock tank without equipment (kg).
Wc = Current weight with used modules and extra equipment (kg).
Pc = Neutral (centre) turn capable, or pivot (locking one tread) steered, 1 for pivot tanks, 0,95 for neutral turn tanks.
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>>174090634
That is the second most retarded thing I've seen today.
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am I the only one here who genuine enjoy the T25 Pilot?
the weapon handling is a dream. it feels like the Type 61 of T8
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>>174090123
>Wait, is that ACTUALLY how it works in the game?
I had forgotten about the details of how it is calculated.

Yeah, the displayed track turn rating is based on the full power of the first engine the tank gets at stock tank's weight on hard terrain with 100% skill crew. Other terrain is modified by terrain resistances relative to hard terrain.

So in 9.17.1, the top tracks are rated at 40 degrees per second on hard terrain at 250 horsepower(stock engine power) with stock weight and 100% crew. As compared to 350 horsepower with the upgraded engine a 40% increase in power or 17.75 HP/ton vs 23.5 HP/ton a ~32% increase in power to weight ratio and a ~32% increase in traverse on hard surfaces (40 at the stock weight and power vs 52.95 fully upgraded on hard surfaces).

In 9.18, the top tracks are rated at 40 degrees per second on hard terrain at 400 horsepower(stock engine power) with stock weight and 100% crew. As compared to 470 horsepower with the upgraded engine a 17.5% increase in power or 27.67 HP/ton vs 31.55 HP/ton a ~14% increase in power to weight ratio and a ~14% increase in traverse on hard surfaces (40 at the stock weight and power vs 45.61 fully upgraded on hard surfaces).
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>only friendly arty left against full hp enemy heavy
>the enemy heavy proxy spots him around a corner
>proceeds to poke the corner for a full 3 minutes
>draw
NA west
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>>174086265
>>174086396
>they think the new scouts would just sit there after getting behind the enemy.

Holy shit.
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Looks like blitz is getting an equipment system similar to warships. Basically each tank gets 9 slots, spread accross 3 levels. Each slot will include 2 different equipment choices. You no longer buy equipment, instead you buy slots. And once you buy a slot you get to switch between the 2 different equipment choices

Looks like they realized how 80% of equipment is never used.
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>>173792809
lower the skill cap, so WGs premium customers don't get upset about being out played
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>>174095460
I really don't think that is the case. I think it is a matter of trying to balance a highly complicated system of systems without having to retool every single system while at the same time not fully understanding all of the implications of the balance changes being made.

Basically, wargaming has made a system that is too complicated to understand in its entirety and is not interested in modifying every effected part of the system in order to introduce new content.

Basically, they are bordering on a design model of accretion (see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL_bCwiUKNE ).
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>>174097261
>[YouTube] Should you invite a black bull into your relationship? - Extra Credits (embed)
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>>174097261
I feel like the game really needs a massive overhaul. But knowing how the world works I know it won't happen because if its failing they'll just cut corners and it would go full p2w and then die because shareholders are a blight on society.
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>>174097765
>(You)
>How to discredit a valid argument in a sexually deviant way without lending it any credence whatsoever or even addressing it. As a bonus, this kills the discussion.

Congratulations, you win 1 internet troll.
Thank you for playing LKTAWGRD!
(Lets Keep the Thread Alive with Game Relevant Discussion!)
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>>174097261
fuck off shill, WG know exactly what they're doing, they know their playerbase: 30-50 single men. they know they suck at all other games and come to WoT because it offers an economy, tier differences and overpowered p2w tanks that allow kills without skills.
they know premium subbes / tankers spam more gold and rations because they designed the game economy for that indirect p2w system from the start.

WG know how to make a "balanced" game, anyone with a brain does, but they don't want that, they want a game that makes money.
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>>174098962
Calling you a troll for deliberately derailing and discussion is accurate and valid.
Calling me a shill is ad hominem. I am not promoting the game.

WG does know what they are doing only in so far in they know that they don't understand all of the impacts of what they are doing.

The problem is, they don't care that what they are doing isn't balanced because it is too hard. That is the problem.

And I disagree with:
>anyone with a brain knows how to make a "balanced" game

I am going to go eat dinner.
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>>174099556
clans did nothing wrong
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when did this place become reddit
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I GOT GOOOOOLD
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>>174103802
fuck off, fagget
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i just spent $12.76 on this game

how do i live with the shame?
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>>174106184
wow, such a lack of respect, not even a congratulations.
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>>174106391
kys and leave all your money to serb
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>>174106391

Try to have fun playing this game so you don't feel the shame of spending money on something that you don't really enjoy doing.

>mfw i spent $35 on a Type 59 years ago and it's been a source of a small amount of fun even though it's been powercreeped as all hell
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>>174107283
>Try to have fun playing this game
but the game is specifically designed so that you can't have fun.
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>>174106391
>only $12
Most of the people in this thread have spent upwards of $100+

They'll tell you they got gold from tournies and CW but they're lying.
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>>174107484
i have tourney gold i'm just not going to spend it on premium
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>>174107360
>>174107484
>>174107562
>>174107283
>>174106391
>spending money
>my face when I buy generic $20-$50 gamecards for $2/$4 each and redeem them for gold

Anyone paying full price for gold is literally retarded.
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>>174107729
>spending money
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>>174107729
yeah sure and i pay my mortgage using $100 visa gift cards i found in the gutter
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>>174107484
NA boys
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>>174107912
> i found in the gutter

Well that's your problem. You need to join a forum that has people who generate the codes for these cards and buy them at a pittance.

I wouldn't reccommend the visa cards though, the police will actually investigate those.

No one gives a fuck about gamecards though. Smaller market.
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>teammate pushes you out toward enemies
>get killed
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>>174108458
just don't sit in front of people
you are the only constant
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>>174107861
>Lady Yupiel
Nanashi is a god amongst men.
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>>174108581
it was in H9 on pic related, the bottom level. i was taking shots and going back in the corner, an e4 was fine on my right but then decided to get behind me and use me as cover. he pushed me when i needed to retreat from a t57 and is3, i got killed. I think it was because i didnt pen a few shots on t57 which managed to do alot of damage on him so he got angry at me? anyway, it was pretty retarded and im still pissed at that asshole.
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>overlord
>nearly everyone goes beach
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>>174109271
who wouldnt want to go to the beach
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>>174109324
>not taking the high ground
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>>174109412
>needing the high ground
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>>174102018
4chan or /wotg/? Reddit's been coming here treating the site like it's reddit since about 2015. /pol/ may as well be r/politics and r/the_Donald at this point.
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>>174109412
The high ground isn't always the best place to be
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>>174099769
>clans did nothing wrong
I told you I went to eat dinner. Then I watched the 1995 version of GitS with my housemates and was reminded how visionary a movie it is.

>>174102018
Wash your mouth out.

>>174107229
2Edgy.
>>
what exactly does damaged tracks do? It doesn't seem to make me any slower.

Also what the niggering fuck is with these captchas?
>click signs
>fails even though I click signs
fuck you google
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>>174112925
I think damaged tracks break more easily. Not 100% on that.
>>
A big tank
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>>174112925
it reduces acceleration and turn radius.


It's not noticeable unless you're going uphill desu
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>>174113309
But that's completely wrong you subhuman mouth breather. All it does it make your tracks take less damage before going red.
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>>174113278
for you
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>>174113618
Then how come when I repair my tracks I suddenly climb hills faster.


I've tested it in-game and found a difference. Go be a retarded faggot somewhere else
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>>174113874
Okay everyone a green has a personal anecdote. Case closed.
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>>174113874
Yellow shitters out
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>>174113963
My personal anecdote is better evidence than counter-claims you've made.

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Suspension

>If a track is damaged, the vehicle will move at a reduced speed.

Suck a dick.
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>>174114180
t. green
>>
How to tell a tank is dogshit:
When it's a heavy tank and can't pen a med in the same tier, while that med is penning you with plain AP.

Thanks for making the german tier up to T9 fucking useless WG kikes.
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>>174114282
>Angles are hard
>>
>>174114282
>getting hit in the first place
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>>174114378
>flat armor at 90 degrees is angled
The american education system has failed another.
>>
>>174114915
>Turning your german tank a bit to the left or right to increase the armour angle manually
Are you actually retardedl?
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Is it me or is shooting through the fucking ground a thing now. I've been hit by niggers whose turrets aren't even above a fucking hill.
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>>174115775
There's that reading comprehension problem.

90 degree shot means straight on. 0 angling.

0-2 boy.
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AWOO Wins Again!
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>>174116841
>I'm going to complain about tanks with flat armour
>Manually angling is too hard for a retarded yellow like me to do

Get good shitter
>>
>>174117086
>>
Why are there so many retarded heavy drivers
>>
Anyone who plays arty deserves to get cancer and die slowly.
>>
The Game
>>
>>174117086
>awoo has to be carried my bulba
more news at 11
>>
>>174117935
stop this meme
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>>174120217
which one?
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>>174120387
the blacked hand
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How do i 3 mark my t-10?
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>>174117086
>>174119784

Thanks Awoo for graciously receiving Bulba cultural enrichment operatives
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>>173987565
At least post the original
>>
>>174007142
No problem, babe
>>
>>174121612
Be in the top 95% for average damage over the past 2 weeks
>>
>>174121612
Have you tried averaging higher damage than 95% of the players in the past 14 days?
>>
>>174121612
if you can't three mark it try to beat my impressive 41% wr at 173 battles in it
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>>174122872
Old Guard Privilege
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>>174123365
>mfw my winrate is better in it from back when it was still the IS-8 and a trash tank
>>
>>174123472
>your winrate is better than 41%
unicum detected
>>
>>174123472
Forgot to add that it was when I was a greenshitter
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>>174123148
>>174123178
easier said than done, evry 4k damage game i get three 2k or less damage games due to my teams being completely annihilated. keeps me moving nowhere up
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>>174123618
Try and get more assist damage. The game takes whatever is higher between spotting and tracking damage, and adds that to your total damage to be compared for the marks.

3 marking tanks is really fucking hard my dude. I got to 90% on my E5 once, never have I gotten that high since.
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>play for 1 hour
>probably 10ish games
>win 1 fucking time

MATCHMAKER IS SO GOD DAMN BAD. I was top tier 1 time. and 75% of the matches were over at the moment teams were assigned.
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>>174124193
You have to play 30+ games for it to start evening out

Every night for the past month my first 10-15 games are shit and I lose 80% of them.

Next 20 games I crush and win 70% of them.
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>poking superpurple defender at 100m
>he has high ground
>pen his commander's hatch every time
i'd pay good money to watch him smash his keyboard
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with this game alone, i got from 87% to 88%. so if i keep doing this it would take me 7 games to get that 3rd mark
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>>174125523
and then there's games like this
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>>174125969
you deserved it
>>
>>174123472
>bragging about having a tank WR higher than 41%

Congrats, I bet you laugh at people in wheelchairs too
>>
>>174125523
>so if i keep doing this it would take me 7 games to get that 3rd mark

It'll be a lot harder than that.
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Do you ever get depressed when playing tanks?

http://wotreplays.com/site/index/version/54/nation/2/level/7/tank/837/sort/inflicted_damage.desc/page/5/
I guess I am as much disappointed that I chose wrong and lost as the fast it barely even breaks the top 50 games in the SP I C since 9.17.1 dropped on wot replay.
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>>174127376
Why aren't you in a clan?
>>
>>174127376
Because I am an idiot who should be in bed I copy down the wrong URL.
http://wotreplays.com/site/3507860#el_halluf-chssmius-sp_hpanzer_sp_i_c
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>>174127475
Because of reasons.
https://pastebin.com/X5sj0ere

END THE CANCER! KILL THE CLANS!
Clans are organized welfare. A social construct to keep people playing long after the game has lost all engagement.
Clans are houses of drama. They are an obligation that no sane person would willingly sign up for.
Everyone is welcome and recommended to add me to their mute/block/ignore list.
>>
>>174127376
Will you be my boyfriend, Chssmius?
>>
>>174127739
that was literally the most autistic manifesto i've ever read
>>
>>174127847
No.

1. Nearly no meaningful romantic iterations begin online (they do happen but they are far, far, and away the exception).
2. Meaningful social iterations don't happen online without preexisting real world relationships to foundate them.
3. Geographically, it is highly, highly, unlikely that any two random people on the internet are close enough in proximity to even consider meeting face to face under practical circumstances.
4. It is probable that, though certainly not impossible, that you are not my type. I have been told by friends and family that I am picky (I don't think that I am but I might be wrong).
5. You have to have to have the right equipment or the relationship is a non-starter from a romantic perspective (I am quite straight).
6. Assuming all of the above were a non-issue, I frankly don't have the time for a girl friend right now and probably wont for the next ~4 years. School is very time intensive.
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>>174128478
oh god please stop
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>>174128370
>that was literally the most autistic manifesto i've ever read
People asked for it because the were curious. I figured I might as well give it to them.

Like how people asked me to started using a name so they can filter me conveniently.
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>>174128564
They asked. So I answered because I was bored as I am done playing tanks for tonight.
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>>174128635
are you performance art
>>
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>>174127739
>That old copy pasta
Wow, that takes me back
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>>174128820
>are you performance art
I don't think so. Sometimes I do things specifically to entertain but it definitely isn't art. I don't consider most of what I do to be a performance because I am usually being genuine unless I am specifically being facetious or making a joke (usually regarding people's expectations of me).

I am certainly no shia labeouf.
I am just me.
>>
We were meant to be together, Chssmius.
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>>174130103
I was meant to be in bed 3 hours ago. You were meant to remember that I am an autistic anti-social a-hole with a singular dislike for organized game institutions.

Good night.
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>>174130406
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