/domg/ - Dominions General

I made that game what I said I was going to make yesterday, please join. Everyone is welcome, even Malakal-san

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=HehNothingPersonnelKid

>>173777660
Please keep Summod and I might join. No bats would be a good idea. I'm trying to decide whether to pick a new nation or keep playing the same one until I win.

link to the old Malakal

>>173221367
>>173221367
>>173221367

>>173777660
joined as Berytos

>>173778818
gomen nasai senpai i will commit sudoku immediately

>>173777660
I've joined as C'tis.

Not ten posts in and already dead.

Oh right, we're waiting for a Mictlan sub. Yeah, I'll be on vacation until Tuesday, if we find a sub before then.

Circle admin here.
I'm a fat lazy American and fell asleep in my recliner in front of the TV until 2 in the morning. Game should be started now.

>>173784510
>another player gone for a week
>no one wants to sub mictlan or even set them AI
considering just ending this game to be honest my family

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At wildlife sanctuaries, the loss of an eye is considered a sufficient disability to prevent the re-introduction of a raptor to the wild. This grizzled old bird was living in the wild, however, thanks in part to the fact that the squirrels in his area were fat and stupid.

Vanheim may need a sub player for clash. Contact Jude.

>>173785729
Is this a metaphor?

>>173785729
>needing eyes
Get on my level, I can use as many magic eye replacements as I want with no setbacks. I might actually use them for once now.

>>173785739
Allow me to clarify: if interested and not already playing in clash.

>>173788853
Fug you sum1

>>173785174
Stop being a badmin. People will drop, people will AI. Play the game until there is one define winner.

>>173790546
Forcing a game that most people don't give a shit about is also badminning.

>>173785739
How is clash going, anyway? Why is nobody blogging it or at least giving occasional updates? This should be the most covered game of the year, but instead we get hardly any information.

>>173790546
Ok. Want to set Mictlan AI for me?

>>173790680
Mostly because giving away info about your teams can be a problem if the enemies get it.
That's how everybody knows that RPGCodex has Steel ovens.

>>173774780
Do you guys test this stuff by manually playing both nations involved or is there a faster way?

Is Vastness as powerful as it seems?

>>173793254

No, it dies to pd easily.

>>173793254
pretty much, yeah

>>173793291
Does the damage reversal at all make up for the utter lack of protection?

If I were to graft on a copper arm, what would I put in that arm?

>>173793793
Your best shield. Or the one that let's you have awe.

>>173793793
Damage Reflection means that whatever is attacking it needs to make an MR check or fail to deal damage. That's pretty nice. If it's had Divine Name cast on it, then it also has S paths, so it can toss up an astral shield to make things paralyze themselves on it (but also adds magic duel vulnerability). If you order it to Fire, it will also spam S spells while it's mindblasting.

Its functionality as an SC really depends on what it's up against. Its limited slots means that it's harder to gear against specific enemy matchups, and its reliance on reflection and ethereal means that units with decent MR and magic weapons can chop it right up.

Against MA Ulm (just to give an example), I'd equip it with a a fire res ring and a regen ring. If kept way at the back, it will be out of range of ulmish evo and would basically die only to fire elementals. If the ulmishman reacts by having priests scripted to attack / iron blizzard, then you can swap out the fire res for an air shield item

fuck

Can I please, please, please get someone to set Mictlan AI?

Ulm can we talk in steam chat?

>>173799253
Someone please help our sadmin. Although it's not urgent, thanks to me ;)

>>173799253
Explain what to do and I'll do it. I have the time. Never played multiplayer or Mictlan before though.

>>173791780
No, everyone knows rpgcodex has steel ovens because they took them from rpgnet, who told everyone.

>>173804738

Rpgnet traitors and cowards need to be taught their place in the rpg world.

>>173804546
Give admin your email.
Turns are sent to your email

>>173804738
We knew about the province with steel ovens through our own channels.

t. other team

>>173790680
Rpgnet has a disciple maneater and vampire hero left in a besieged capital.

Dom4mods is down to a handful of territory-mostly just their capitals. They may have lost one.

Florida is sieged down. Lemurians are good at sniping holy SCs.

The Last Fantasy is down to land caps, but has most of the sea. Turns out that mattered less than certain people predicted.

Vanheim, Clockwork, Teamliquid, and toshidar are all doing ok.

Trow and codex are the game leaders.

>>173777660
>http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=HehNothingPersonnelKid

Joined as TNN. Requesting removal of Xibalba.

>>173805229
But what about our bois at /domg/?

>>173793254

Vastness is kind of weird. Sometimes it's amazing and sometimes it dies from running a tugboat into it.

>>173805450
They're also doing alright.

One of two teams with multiple caps.

>>173805536
Multiple other than their own, I assume?"

Glad to know our teams are doing okay, even if it would be better if it was /domg/ and /v/anheim as the leaders in my opinion. It's nice to see dom4mods and Florida get blown out since the former have an (undeserved, in my opinion) reputation as good players left over from Dom3, and the Florida guys just rub me the wrong way as individuals.

And TROW and Codex are both composed of good folks, from what little I know of them.

>>173805019
>>173804546
Hello, yes. I just need an e-mail

>>173801016
Here is my disquis:
YoyBoy#5823

Is temp 0 okay for a temp2 nation with no need for the temp okay?

>>173805518
So it's only good if the stars are right?

>>173805389
agreed. no bats, no daemon monkeys (without summod)

>>173804546
Are you willing to sub? Cause that would be ideal.

>>173807512
Are you saying there is no summod, or are you just saying that, hypothetically, if people didn't want to use summod you wouldn't allow bats or Lanka?

>>173805837
Domg has successfully sieged two caps. Vanheim is currently sieging two.

>>173806908
You're going 2 points the wrong way and it will still swing even more to the wrong way in winter or summer. Better just go temp3.

>>173806908
IMHO no.
going from temp2 to 3 is almost free points. going from temp2 to 0 is double the points, but a more than double price.
if your nation has temperature 2 native scales it means it's better off with that than anyone who is going to invade you.
cold3 and heat 3 can be quite protective against certain invasions.

>>173806601

[email protected]

Sorry for the edgy name but it'll do.

>>173808464
Yeah, I'll keep playing as long as I can hold out. I've never played multiplayer, never played this faction and haven't ran through a whole ton of full matches myself either but I am curious and think it will be fun.

>>173809179
no bats never
No Lanka without summod, I feel like sum1s priest Nerf puts them into normal range

Awesome. If you have any questions, Google is your friend, and people here aren't usually dicks unless you ask about something in the manual. Try to talk to the old player if you can. Good luck.

>>173816963
Don't listen to anything that the bats tell you

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>>173816668
>broken.rotten.doll

>>173817553
Should I disable all of my mods before doing and sending in my turn?

>>173817830
I'm the guy who plays undead in every game that offers them.

>>173817897
It automatically handles the mods for you.

>>173817897
You are the new Mictlan. Godspeed

>>173818780
What version of summod are you guys using? The one I downloaded is missing something called a Snerdyn.

>>173819271
That's the map, not the mod.

>>173819345
Could I get a download for these missing files?

>>173819508
Nevermind, I've found it.

>>173819623
Honestly, I like you already

Ded

Christ already? I thought the yanks would be awake to post now.

Are javelin-ists considered archers for the attack/fire archers command?

>>173829414
Yes. Telling your javeliners in the second row to fire is pretty common. They'll throw javelins and will go melee when they're out of ammo.

>>173829530
I think he means for other dudes to target archers.

>>173829756
Ah. Dunno. TEST IT

Any interesting discreet spells ya'll like? I am enjoying foul vapors hardly discreet, but less prominent than EQ, and Resist poison :^).

>>173829887
I tried out freezing mist recently. Wasnt really impressed. Be better if it had a bigger radius.

>>173829887
farstrike

>>173829887
One of my noob mistakes 2 years ago was kitting a niefel jarl for arena combat. He defeated everything, but then it turned out that AI helheim sent a naked D3 Hangadrott who cast Hand of Death in melee. Jarl was dead in a single round.

>>173830596
farstrike is legit for killing big guys

>>173831127
Why not just cast earthpower/communion and spam gifts from heaven.

>>173831202
it was turn 15 and that province had earth elementals on it

>>173831202
precision

>>173831202
for killing a few big guys; gifts from heaven is worse

>>173831202
Not him, but farstrike is more precise. If you're fighting one enemy thug you might end up killing a lot more of your troops than the thug. But yea it's an obscure spell for a reason, in big battles GoH is superior.

>>173829887
prison of fire

>>173829887
I've recently started to like full fatigue spam - rigor mortis, grip of winter, heat from hell, etc all active in the same battle.

>>173831808
I need to try prison of fire spam + blood rain with marignon

>>173832109
grip of winter and heat from hell don't cancel each other?

>>173832841
nopers. they stack

>>173832924
>this battlefield is simultaneously too hot and too cold! Also, I appear to be on fire while numb.

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>>173833049
Reminder that there could be two storms and rains at the battlefield at the same time.

>>173833049

I can accept it. It's like storm of temperatures.

>>173829887
Ghost Grip using TCs Masters

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>this happens early game

Thanks RNGesus.

>>173835515
>take pretender with bring good fortune
>luck 3, turmoil 1, magic and growth 3
every good event in the world

Do you roleplay the Ascension Wars in roleplay games or just normal fucking around times?

>>173837976
you just roleplay. are you a pretender searching for the thrones, will you discover the thrones over time, are you focused on your nation and the whims of gods are none of your concern? maybe you dont want there to be another god so youre just planning to take the thrones and never allow anybody to sit on them. all depends on you friendo, thats why its role playing.

>>173838698

Is there a roleplay game about to start?

>>173837976
It depends.

>>173841161
nope. one just started too. hopefully another one will pop up though, theyre the most fun desu

Does summod make LA Pythium good or just more complicated? I love their concept.

>>173845245
Better, but not good. A patch a little while ago may also have interfered with the mechanics because it changed the way event order resolves. They're not utter garbage, though.

I love Dryads!

EA r'yleh with summod is really annoying to play since you want to use polyp mothers for easier research early on, but they make so much chaff eventually they start to starve so you have to run a commander around and ferry them on land just so they die. its more like LA ryleh i guess but its still annoying

>>173847040
I love you !

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Ermor be gone!

There doesn't appear to be any size 1 rats meant to attack in swarms. I'm not too certain on the defense skill I should give them. I'm thinking maybe 14 like fish do. If not that, 13?

>>173850530

I'll kill 1000 rats and 1000 fish and get back to you.

EDIT: It should be 12.

>>173849769
>when you spend all your gold on pd for 6 years

>>173853773
Nah, the Agartha in that image just had a berserker SC that tanked the army until turn limit, then it killed the sleepy mages.

25PD, I would say.

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>>173853839

>25PD

There is a game I'm interested in looking for more players. It's on the Clockwork Hounds Discord group, and it's run via their server (IE; not Llamaserver; you finish your turn and it sends via IP address to a server, and each turn you download from the server). All the mods are provided by the server.
You can join by clicking this discord link; https://discord.gg/q4SFeme, then PMing @Mokou to join the Cancer Game channel, at which point you can post in that channel.
Here are the details; I've bolded some of the crazier stuff. This is sort of a thematically bizarre game.
Map:
Oeridia (adventure version) --- 1225 provinces, or roughly 60/player if we get the 20 people the game is attempting.
Settings:
Middle Age
Independents Strength: 9
Sites Frequency: 75
Events Frequence: Common
Story Events: Enabled
Hall of Fame Entries: 15
Score Graphs: Off
Research: Hard
Banned: Ermor
Diplomacy: Pacts binding, 3 lies permitted.
(You can publicly declare a pact to be nullified up to three times. Otherwise, all pacts are binding, including trade.)
Turns: 48h
Victory Condition:
50 throne points required.
20 level 1 thrones.
10 level 2 thrones.
5 level 3 thrones.
Alternate conditions:
Conquer everyone.
Agreement by all surviving players.
Mods:
Magic Enhanced - 1.4.1 ---> Adds substantially to magic; downloads with a PDF that lists all changes.
More Gems - 1.02 ---> Just adds +1 to all gem sites, +2 to all thrones
Lucid's Thematic Gem Gen - 1.02 ---> Adds more "temp gem" items. Usually following the scale of 5 gems = 1/combat, 10 gems = 2combat, 15 gems = 3 /combat.
Weapons of Mass Destruction - 0.04 ---> Makes Con 8 Artifacts more valuable
Worthy Heroes - Most recent ---> Adds a long list of heroes.
Mu.'s Throne Mod - 1.02 ---> Produces insane thrones.

>>173854275
Special Note: High Commitment
By signing up for this game, you are pledging to either stick around for it and keep playing for however many months or years it takes, or to find a substitute should interest wane. You shall not stale, you shall not walk off without saying a word.
Extensions will be granted if needed, so if something comes up, ask for one.
Special Note: Fun
As might be inferred by the format, this game is intended to last for a while, and generally be fun, excepting all the micromanagement. Fun enough, at least, that people will keep playing.
Wrecking the world by wishing for armageddon, or other such effects, damage that sense of fun for everyone and make it more likely that the game will be closed due to half the players leaving. As such, I request that some moderation be shown in this regard. Thank you.

>>173854275
>>173854361
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dominions4/comments/6502dj/new_game_looking_for_players_cancer/

I want to join for the memes but these settings...........

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>>173854275
>reddit
>oeridia
>magic enhanced
>throne mod
>""""high commitment""""

>>173854275

>50 throne points required.

>>173854275
Anyone who signs up for oeridia is going to hate himself.

t. Survivor.

>>173863081
Steam is stone age. Discord is the new steamshitting.

DSDS
C'tis 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
Marverni Waiting for 2h file
Tir na n'Og Waiting for 2h file
Ulm Waiting for 2h file
Yomi 2h file received


DO YOUR FUCKING TURNS

>>173863136
People on discord tend to have a bit better skill than most of the /domg/.

>>173863771
A common misconception.

>>173863771
t. malakal

>>173864019
Malakal is a meme designed by Rejakor to divert attention from himself.

Wake up, sheeple.

Fear 13 awe 1 on fallen angel; fear 3 vine shield;, or fear 18?

>>173864223
It depends. No, really.

>>173864223
Fear and awe combo well together, however mindless units can ignore both. A Vine Shield is a good general defence but not so great against high MR units. Fear 18 is probably the weakest option as it isn't that much stronger than Fear 13 and doesn't provide any defence against attacks.

>>173863817
If more than half of the players on goddammit /domg/ game fails during expand phase then something is really wrong.

>>173854275
60 provinces per player. 48 hours for a turn.

Literally what the fuck. Half of the players will resign from the game due to the boredom before turn 20. You are going to smash fucking indie for MORE THAN TWO MONTHS OF REAL TIME.

And this game is going to take motherfucking eternity.

Well, where do I sign?

>>173854275
signing up for this game sounds as wise as getting pregnant when you are 16 or accept going into a free 7 days vacation into Venezuela you won from being the millionth visitor of a zoo porn website.

>>173854275
>discord fags trying hijacking /dfg/
>now they are trying the same thing on /domg/
Fucking hell

>>173854275
this is the memest game i can imagine.

>>173868760
except that with no armageddon allowed the meme way to actually end meme games is no longer avaible and players will have so much gold and gems ( +1 gems to all sitea? crazy) that they will be hostage of their turns for fucking ever.

i guess that ME has some broken near-unbeatable magic lategame to bet on, so maybe that's a way to end the game.

>>173854124
>not having 25Pd in your cap
???

>>173869319
no armageddon or other such effects, so they probably mean shit like bot and astral corruption too. basically any fuck you global is what i imagine, which is what half the ME stuff is. and with 9 indy strength its going to take forever to expand too. the games just going to be expanding for 2 months and some asshats going to wish for armageddon after anyway out of boredom

>>173869319
+1 gems to all sities, and 75 site frequency. most provinces will have one at that rate. at least gives you a good reason to cast acashic knowledge and the gems to do it

>>173859843
This

>>173869673
>9 indy strength is hard

nah. it takes few extra turns for your armies to reach the right critical mass but once they do they can take 9 strength indies over and over again.

>>173871438
yeah, except a few extra turns is a few extra 48 hour cycles in that game and youre going to be fighting nothing but indies for months of real life time. and 9 indy strength can wear down some factions, like bandar log and bakemono

Ulm can you come to the steam chat?

All he said about armageddon is to show some moderation. It's implied that you shouldn't do it just to ruin fun

However, a gem based nation benefits more from Armageddon than a blood nation. It is a perfectly viable strategy for wholesome, non-demonic nations to cause a genocide. Similarly, Asphodel for instance will want to put up Burden of Time because they are hurt the least by it. It's all perfectly respectable

>>173871747
shin should be fine

>>173879530
the main point is all it really accomplishes is punishing weaker nations and less skilled players by slowing their expansion. even if just by a bit.

>>173876986
you should never trust a fucking discordfag meme game to have any reasonable rules.

So who should have the best expansion?
Sceleria, Jotun, Ermor, and asspoodle all should expand with ease, but things like BL and Ashdod might do well depending on their bless.
xibalba won't be able to clear their cap circle

>>173881993
In order:
1. Anyone with a dragon
2. Anyone with a bless
3. Anyone with good troops and econ to support it
4. If you don't have any of the above then what the fuck is your country doing

>>173876986
That's not really much different than no restrictions.

You're still going to end up with lifeless wasteland quickly once people reach armageddon.

What do you do when you have loads of Death and Astral gems lying around?

Which LA nations are considered strong or weak?

>>173854275
>Reposting from reddit
Stopped reading.

Empower and unleash mass disease upon your enemy's lands.

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>>173874627
I'm glad I didn't borrow you that crystal coin.

>>173886223
Atlantis is pretty strong.

>>173886167
cast utterdark, arcane nexus, foul air and dispel any enemy globals that pop up

>>173817897
>I'm the guy who plays undead in every game that offers them.
me too thanks

>>173849769
delet

>>173886223
Most LA nations are around the same power level. Ragha is higher in the early game, but falls off later, while R'lyeh is shit all the way through. Lemuria is weaker than other popkill nations, but is more fun imo. Even Jomon can do well if there's no Atlantis, while Atlantis is the undisputed king of UW and can perform adequately on land. If you're playing Summod, Pythium is aight, but if you're not they're shite. Same for Man, though Man can at least do things if they're lucky unlike Pythium

>>173888535
>utterdark, fouls air
What if you aren't undead?

>>173890084
Well of misery?

>>173890512
>more death gems
We arrive at the same problem.

>>173890602
Summon shitloads of pale riders.

>>173890702
Or tartarians I guess.

>>173890702
>>173890836
What about those non commander banes?

>>173777660
In as Helheim, I would prefer you kept the summod so I have some variety and not be shittier Vanheim with a D3 mage.

>>173890084
Why do you give a fuck? You've got a massive death and astral income, just use summoned troops. Pale Riders, tarts, vine men blockers (i.e. you don't care if they die), spectral mages for diversity, mound fiends, wraith lords, you get the idea

>>173886261
Thanks for telling everyone.

>>173891352
Wights? They're always good

IT'S ALWAYS FUCKING MALAKAL

DSDS9


C'tis 2h file received
Hinnom 2h file received
Kailasa 2h file received
Marverni 2h file received
Tir na n'Og Waiting for 2h file
Ulm Waiting for 2h file
Yomi 2h file received

What's the abbreviation for astral since a is air? S?

>>173895945
yep

>>173895525

Wut? And Ulm?

>>173896241
I bet he is just waiting for you

>>173896727

I was waiting for him :^)

Is the manual up to date on blood hunting mechanics? From the looks of it basically the only difference between a B3 blood hunting and a B9 is the unrest and a guarantee 6 more blood slaves.

>>173874627
I already gave you my disquis but here is my steam profile:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/lukamrko_1/

>>173899589
There is something wrong with the manual about bloodhunting, as I have had a B3 mage who got 11 slaves in a game I'm playing.

>>173899589
>>173900016

Its a DRN roll like 99% of shit in the game. I had one B1 hunt 40 slaves and put province over 100 unrest in one turn...

Why did they take Virtue from Ur?
Now you don't get anything interesting.

>>173901159

Moloch maybe.

And it was some time ago.

>>173901159

Ur was OP, obviously.

What is the spell that makes ravens eat bodies and give dgems?

>>173901516
raven feast
it's shit desu

>>173901636
why?

>>173901731
corpses decay before the spell hits, so you could have 10k corpses in a prov, cast raven feast and then you get like 2 gems because the corpses decayed.

>http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Fatigue
it does not say and I dont recall
when a mage goes over 100 fat from spellcasting
how much does he recover each turn and does reinvig adds to that ammount?

>>173902459
i think it's 5 + reinvig.

>>173902459
>>173904971

It is. Updated the wiki to reflect this.

How are machakan lions as evo catcher comparedd to wolves

>>173901849
What if you make the corpses the same turn that you cast the spell? With a volcano or hurricane or something

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>this guy is still alive

>>173882309
>1. Anyone with a dragon
>dragon

nice bait friendo.

>>173906063
both are shit compared to vine men
>>173906315
might be too gem inefficient, definitely too mage turn inefficient

>>173906515
Once upon a time dragons were the best awake expanders, and theyre still good at it until they get too many afflictions. if you really want a good time use one in a disciples game with a n9 bless

>>173777660
joined as ryleh. summod is nice in that it makes ryleh slightly less shit. also, the map does only support 1 UW player, it always starts UW nations in the big lake in the center so if theres two they start directly next to each other

>>173911376
it basically supports only one UW player yeah. You'll have 8 provinces, I think, without any competition, but to get on land you'll have to fight

Are lamias any good? Both troop and commander.

>>173917409
Yes

Teaching players please check your email.

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Kalaisa no!

>>173888831
Ragha most certainly does not 'fall off' lategame - more like fall into the middle of the pack, but they don't become *bad*

Xibalba dominates the lategame of LA if they aren't jumped on though. Their biggest weakness in LA that stops them from being as good as EA Xib is lack of abundant F/B path to jag summon, giving them an extended period of vulnerability (basically from when SoG bats and HoS stops being battle winners until the get some F/B Onaqui summoned).

>>173901849
This isn't true. It isn't full efficiency, but if there's 100 corpses in a province you'll generally get at least 2 death gems per air gem spent. Does cost a mage turn though, and I'd never use it unless you either really needed those D gems or had an absurd amount of A gems.

Are fire arrows the only battle-wide missile enchantment?

>>173923219
Are there any other missile enchantments at all?

>>173923431
Doesn't weapons of sharpness apply to bows?

>>173923219
Wind Guide

which fish wud u fuq?

>>173928597
Bitchop fish

>tfw you really like abyssia
I wish they weren't so shit forever. I think I might just play them until i figure out their intricacies though

>>173929594
They dont really have many intricacies from my own time playing them.

How do I learn to play this game

>>173930956
Trial and error mostly.

>>173929798
no they really don't. spam sacreds, spam fireball, spam fire elementals, spam even more fire. but thats kind of why i like them, theyre very straight forward. but i like to think you can mix up most of the nations in some interesting ways

>>173932095
They are possibly the nation with the easiest access to horror spam which is cool I guess.

>>173932414
yeah, that's always my backup plan for people who just cast rain and fire resistance stuff. but they are still one of the most one dimensional nations, especially in the early age

Gaeni 2h file received
>>>>>>Pheaha Waiting for 2h file
Caolbasagh 2h file received
Vancirony 2h file received
>>>>>>Mexco Waiting for 2h file
Tsihsith 2h file received
Lumbuor 2h file received
Phuidh 2h file received

What is the mod to make a mon capital-recruitable only? ctrl f on the manual with everything I can think of and nothing is getting results. I know for sure there's a command to do this.

Nothingpersonnel started pretty fast, that's nice. No bats or birds to be seen, not even a lanka.

>>173899589
>>173900016
Blood hunting is affected by site frequency a bit.

Apart from that, the manual seems about right.

>>173906063
Much better than wolves.

Wolves have lower hp density than humans, while lions are higher. With wolves the most you can do is throw them out ahead of your army as chaff to tire out enemy mages, but lions should still pull spells away from your troops when both are a similar distance from the enemy mages.

Lions don't have high enough hp density to pull spells away when further back than your human troops, unfortunately.

>>173906537
Vine men cost gems, war lions do not.

>>173906063

war lions are 40 hp per square vs Wolf 24 hp per square. MR is the same. Lions have a higher morale (12 vs 13) but cost upkeep and gold.

Vine Men have 51 hp per square, do not cost upkeep/gold and do not route. Vine Ogres give you 55 hp per square and also do not cost upkeep/gold and their morale is 50. Every nation wants gold, and nature gems are pretty cheap.

Further, Machaka gets 2n+ mages pretty easy. You're far better off getting Vine Men, or even Vine Ogres, for evocation catchers than you are War Lions. If you have a surplus of gold and are facing a weird early war with Magic3 Abysia, maybe war lions would be useful as fireball catchers. Realistically though, use vine ogres.

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i don't think i can get to a PC before my turn stalls(phoneposting) or at least it would be very close. can i have a 12 hr extension on JobbingToXibalba?
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>>173945646
I found a niche use for War Lions when I needed to fight a bunch of Fomorian Giants early game. It was nice to have a highish damage gold dump that didn't rely on trample

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>>173919190
Uhhh where is my now that Malakal is dead I can enjoy this game option?

But in all seriousness I'm learning a lot from this game. I'm only in favor of killing it if someone does a new edition/draft of it. I think the educating new players format is good for the general.

Can someone tell me WHY THE FUCK the game is giving me a 'badrecunit command' error with this shit

#addrecunit "Nyelith Banner Carrier"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Swordsman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Crossbow"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Pikeman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Longbowman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Buckler Swordsman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Maceman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Praetorian"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Spearman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Bowman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Swordsman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Halberdier"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Pikeman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Maceman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Praetorian"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Swordsman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Spearman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Cavalry Crossbowman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Cavalry Spearman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Cavalry Maceman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Cavalry Archer"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Light Cavalry Swordsman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Cavalry Inquisitor"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Cavalry Spearman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Cavalry Maceman"
#addrecunit "Nyelith Heavy Cavalry Swordsman"

I don't see any fucking problems anywhere and I've been working on this shit for the past 7 hours straight. I want to know WHY this is happening. There are THE ONLY RECUNITCOMMANDS in the entire file. Why aren't they working?

>>173946408
Yeah, I like the format too. But I want to know the general opinion on kill or not to kill, as the ride is going to be long.

>>173949385
Is there a reason why people can't go AI or sub out if they really don't want to continue playing?

I'm very sick of this game, but I don't see a reason to kill it. I'm almost out of resources, so when I've had enough I'm just going AI.

>>173948348
You seem to be adding "Nyelith Light Swordsman" twice. Try removing one of them?

No.

How many B1 mages with sticks do you hunt with in a province and how many wolves do you patrol in that province?

>>173952432
4-8, and I generally do 10 patrollers / hunter

>>173952432
At least 8, more if I'm lacking in provinces to hunt.

I haven't ever kept count, I just add a bunch and keep adding more if the unrest doesn't stabilize.

Also, do you use cheap scouts to ferry your virgins or are you lazy and just blow 500 gold on a lab so you don't have to micro

>>173952939
Scouts, spending 500 gold on a province you'll abandon soon is a waste.

>>173952432
4 B1 with rods. That's like having eight B2 mages, which is kinda fine.
I usually use 10 wolves per blood level (so 80 for those 4 mages) but I think I tend to overkill in patrolling. I've been testing and three or four B1 mages with rods can keep the unrest low with 55 wolves in a commander with a star of experience, so that way i dont need two commanders.

Maybe more than 4 blood hunters if I'm starving in slaves or I'll have a big battle soon, 8 blood hunters instead of 4 in a province and 4 in other one doesn't sound fine to me.

>>173952939
scouts. but hopefully some of the bloodhunting provinces will be forted+lab or have a lab for recruiting indies, so the pathing of the scouts won't be horribly long.

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Rate my new OC.

How do you expand as Yomi?

>>173955389

With onis, they handle everything.

>>173955389
Starting bandits bait arrows. Smash enemy with onis

>white

http://www.strawpoll.me/12743905
Please respond!

Are there any mods that people recommend using with the current version of the game?

>>173957708
yes if it had the ability to host the blitzes and processes the turns fast enough to call them blitzes.

please note that feature parity with llamaserver implies having a webpage where i can see game status before joining it.

i like play by email a lot because the little time i spend receiving and sending emails it's also used to copy the savefiles into an history so i could revisit the old turns.On direct connect it would take longer to open the savefile directory.

>>173959579
Game status denoting map, mods, players currently in, and the various match settings?

>>173960031
yeah, various things like that, just like what llama is doing. you could do even better but i don't think anyone needs more.

>>173955180

Nice but could be better.

For one Mictlan never takes an earth snake.

>>173955750
>>173955881
I've found Oni not doing well against enemy troops.

Against equal gold of troops they get outnumbered a lot and then die.

Especially with Turmoil, Yomi doesn't have good income to recruit lots of them either.

Do I just need bigger expansion parties, or is there something else I'm missing?

Sorry for late response, had to go do stuff

>>173948348
Have you got the actual file somewhere?

>>173963638
Yomi's troops are sort of not great in general. They have good thugs and SCs though.

>>173963998
Right, but I need to expand with their troops. Later I can lean on thugs/SCs/mage support, but how do I get provinces to get started?

I'm going to be busy traveling today, so I'd like to give myself a 12 hour extension if you don't mind.
I'll probably take my turn in the next 8 hours or so though.

>>173965173
More oni backed up with bandit archers I guess. That or an awake pretender.

I won't be able to get to a computer, after this point, until about Sunday morning. Requesting an extension if it's needed.

>>173965795
aight

>>173965173
Ko-Oni usually do just fine during expansion.
Good stats in turmoil, high attack density, secondshape means you take less attrition than you would expect.

However they will become useless after a while due to being affliction magnets.

>>173966996

I prefer the fire onis for expansion, a few shots really soften up indies.

Good thing I have slave troops because there is nothing but mountains, swamps and wasteland in my cap ring.

>>173967653
Can't mass them as easy early.
Once in melee 6 Ko-Onis per square in turmoil just blend.

>>173967829
Pheaha Staled 1

>>173968497
I was wondering why the turn took so fucking long.

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HehNothingPersonnelKid pretenders:
TC is likely W9 and ~F4, and definitely dom 6
Machaka has S6+, turmoil and some earth
sneks have high astral and high dominion, possibly as high as 8.
TNN has gone for standard imprisoned N9Ex white bull, with sloth 3
Edgy elves have W9N9 and possibly high dominion
Doritos is B9 with dom 6 or lower, no doubt
Riley has nature, death and air, probably a rainbow, with growth and heat
Sniffleheim has E9, probably N9 (or an N minor, but I doubt that) and...some D? Possibly also dom 8 or higher.

>>173967829
Thank fuck, you're clearly the strongest nation so I hope you hit nothing but bone tribe and heavy cav

>>173969182
What do I have thats so strong? Everything being blind is a fun gimmick but I dont really have much way of capitalizing on that with my paths.

>>173969493
7g composite archers, elemental-murdering super sacreds, recruitable thugs, and cheap E1S1

>>173969493
You have dustalker sacreds, which are always strong. You have rec anywhere gifts from heaven and earth buffers. You have recruitable banefire bows.

>>173969493
>>173969631
also 7g dual wielders (with awful stats, to be sure) and the paths to buff them

>>173969703
The banefire recruitables are way too expensive to be used for that, to be fair. They're still decent chariots, but you pay elephant prices for them

>>173969493
Hey now, you picked the strongest nation. That's fine, and someone has to be the strongest, but you can't then go and claim that you're just a fun nation that's not so strong.

>>173969834
Oh sure, but they're still there, and a few banefire bows can still cause significant damage

Question: if there are already 5 global enchantments active, if I were to cast another one, would that automatically dispel a random global enchantment or do I have to cast dispel first?

>>173969703
>>173969834
The duststalkers are expensive as balls. Even the infantry cost 50 gold a pop. And while I do have guys who can cast gifts from heaven I'm pretty sure that I still need to forge shit for them to use it.
>>173969930
I'm not sure what anyone else picked so I cant say. I just picked these guys because they were blind and had recruitable undead. They were pretty unique compared to the other guys I saw.

>>173970043
if you cast yours with more gems, yes. Otherwise your cast fails

>>173970223
thanks anon

>>173970218
>has cheap S1E1
>"Oh I think I would need to forge things for them!"
You'd need to forge fucking thaum 1 don't come here playing up how bad you are at the game. You picked the strongest nation, now deal with the inevitable gangbang

>>173970365
I always forget about communions. I was thinking about the guys who had a 1/4 chance to be E2.

>>173963890
I got the problem solved after a while.

Is the mod inspector fucked up? It won't load anymore when it worked fine last night.

>>173971573
It works for me.

>>173966996
I have not tried Ko-oni, I figured 10 of them would be less effective than 6 Ao-Oni.

I will try them, hopefully they work better.

>>173967859
>in turmoil
Don't you usually outrun your dominion/scales during expansion?

>>173970492
>I was thinking about the guys who had a 1/4 chance to be E2.
E2S1 can summon earthpower to become E3S1. They don't need boots to cast gifts.

>>173972462
>E2S1 can summon earthpower to become E3S1. They don't need boots to cast gifts.
Fuck. I knew I was forgetting something. I had a big plan worked out at the start of last turn but now I've forgotten most of it.

>>173972752
1/4 chance to be able to cast gifts isn't worth recruiting for, desu.

Unless the other 3/4 have paths which are worth the cost, I would just communion S1E1 (or stick earth boots on them).

>>173972882
They were E1 S2 before the random paths so there would be some use for them. I haven't recruited any of them yet anyway.

>>173973286
What's the price, and other random paths?

>>173973506
290 gold 100% to get EFSD and then 10% to get EFSD again. I hadnt planned on getting any for a while anyway though since I have other things I want right now. They are also priests.

>>173973925
Yeah, stick with S1E1 as much as you can.

Those are way too pricey to have more than a few (mainly for casting big spells or rituals).

The thing about E1S1 is that it's incredibly versatile. Yes, you can communion up GfH, and like Bogarus's T-strike communions, it's amazing in army v army combat once both sides field forces of sufficient size. It'll smash through just about anything, regardless of how elite the enemy is.

However, that's only one application. You can still just use them as S mages (cascades and soul slay spam), you can use them as buff/debuff mages with all the great E magic that they can scale up to cast (LegoS, SoG, MW, WoS, and then also Destruction, Meld, and Maws on the enemy), you can also use them for elemental spam if you're lacking on front line, and you can even make a more bottom-heavy communion to spam earthquake.

What all of this means is that you can swap between different battle tactics with the same mages, which lets you both answer enemy tactics on the go and makes your armies very difficult to prepare against, because what works for one won't work against another.

In vanilla dominions, the weakness to this strategy is a vulnerability to battlefield clear on all of the nations that can field it, since they use squishy humans for it and moving around stacks of 8+ mages makes it worth deploying. However your mages are far hardier for a very reasonable price increase, meaning that people can't just RoS/equake trap your casters away.

Add onto that the versatility added with recruitable thugs, DIRT cheap archers, and hardy sacreds that will carve right through magic beings (elementals are one of the better early-midgame power spikes) and you have a nation that's going to be very hard to take on solo.

>>173974539
For the record, though, I don't think that your nation is grossly OP or anything - it's just very strong and versatile even with just your primary paths, and with your efficient troops, it will require people to gang up on it to beat.

>>173974539
>and you have a nation that's going to be very hard to take on solo
Theoretically. In practice I'm pretty shit and didn't even think of half that stuff. I even forgot about summon earthpower for a bit.

>>173974804
seriously, you can stop trying to diplo, it's fine

>>173974804
too bad? You're the strongest nation, and if people let you live you only get stronger over time.

>>173974539
Communions are amazing, but do remember they're quite limited in scope if you want to use them right.

If you want to go beyond 12 or so people casting (and even that's pushing it), you're going to need mages who can cast outside a communion or to be okay with quickly burning out every single communion slave you used quickly.

E1S1 can spam cascades while not in a communion, but they're a lot less versatile in large fights.

E/S communions are amazing on a small-medium scale, though. An 8 master 4 slave communion can put out 8 casts of gifts per turn for basically the whole fight if you do some tricks to manage fatigue properly, which is an extraordinary amount of firepower for 12 cheap mages.

>However your mages are far hardier for a very reasonable price increase, meaning that people can't just RoS/equake trap your casters away.
Also, this is an underrated attribute. What I wouldn't give for tanky cheap mages on every faction.

>>173975312
>implying
I mean its nice to be seen as a threat but I even forgot communions were a thing. I got over 300 hours on the game and I haven't used them once.
>>173975561
What does everyone else have anyway since we have gone over my stuff in depth? I'm actually pretty glad we went over my stuff in depth, I have a much better idea of what to do now

>>173975596
>E/S communions are amazing on a small-medium scale, though. An 8 master 4 slave communion can put out 8 casts of gifts per turn for basically the whole fight if you do some tricks to manage fatigue properly, which is an extraordinary amount of firepower for 12 cheap mages.
12 mages is a pretty good number. Giant mage blobs shouldn't be a go-to for anyone, honestly, and these guys can easily punch above their weight using both GfH and other scripts.

If you really do need to deathball for whatever reason and already asked yourself what the battlefield-wide answer is to the enemy and didn't find one, then you do need to kill your com slaves, yes, but you'll get a TON of mojo out in the process.

>>173975878
uh, Phuidh has acid bolt into acid rain into acid storm and literally nothing else except some decent Fomorian sacreds
Pheaha has Vanadrotts on steroids that can change into cave crabs as well as storm power 4 sacreds
Caolbasagh are Fomorians, that much I remember, but nothing else
Lumbuor has 40g S1s and 6 resource axe throwers, so they're going to be using Marverni tactics probably
Gaeni has a cap only str that has 1 in every elemental path and B2, so they're going to be sabbathing it up, I think. They're also birds
Vancirony I remember being the Foulspawn nation that was "literally why would you pick this: the nation". Beyond that I don't even remember their paths
Mexco has really good sacreds and has access to Xibalba summons and pretenders, so they might actually be good.

>>173952432

One province, one hunter. Walk them back to your lab when they are full or just build a lab there to pick up slaves automatically.

>>173976840
Why would you say this? I thought that meme about intentional bad advice wasn't a thing.

>>173976121
In late midgame onwards you're absolutely right, but I've found earlier than that it raiding is harder and who can do better in a straight fight is often more important. Obviously if your or your enemy is elves or bats or birds, disregard this.

>then you do need to kill your com slaves, yes, but you'll get a TON of mojo out in the process.
Say you put 50 GfH casters on 8 communion slaves. The communion slaves will be dead in 4 turns and you'll have cast gifts probably about 170 times. That's impressive firepower, but then your mages are no longer in a communion.

By comparison, a 12 master/8 slave communion will have done 120 casts (well over half of what you get by burning out your communion) by turn 10, and they can keep going (plus, no dead mages).

Sustainable is the way to go, I think. If you can't use the other mages in a fight without a communion, just don't bring them. Burning out a communion is only valuable if you need extremely front-loaded firepower.

>>173977137
If deleting 510 squares of bad guys isn't enough, you have issues.

Firepower sooner is often better than firepower later, and I'd gladly sac 8 com slaves for A HUNDRED SEVENTY rock drops.

>>173977053

why waste money on the upkeep for essentially useless mules?

>>173969091

>Carpenter of the Insides

What?

>>173977298
It's only 510 squares if nothing misses. In practice, I'd expect much less.

Still, I've never actually tried dropping hundreds of rocks on an army, only less powerful evocations. You may be right about immediate firepower in this case. I could easily see that many casts shattering an army so badly no further mage support is needed.

>>173977053

That's how I've always played blood nations. I hadn't even thought to use more than one hunter per province because of the unrest.

>>173977530
>essentially useless mules
Would you prefer your blood mage spend all his time hunting slaves, or would you rather have him spend half his time delivering shit?

Incredible! HehNothingPersonellKid was announced in this thread, started this morning European time and it's already turn 2.

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>>173976425
covers the gist of things, but to give more detail -

Phuidh is fomoria with acid instead of lightning. No morrigans either, but acid storm is cool I guess. Not a lot to say about these guys, though.

Caolbasagh has great SCs with death recruit 50 (150g rebate with death 3) and 9 attack/square berserker sacreds with E2X1 mages to buff them. Expect death scales and a giant bless for a strong early game, then self-buff research for midgame. Great snowball nation, and a very scary neighbor if you don't have early magic or tough guys of your own.

Pheaha is an elf/hoburg nation with flyers, rec anywhere A2 and cap rec up to A4 (with the cap guys. Expect normal elf stuff when fighting these guys (elementals, t-strike, tons of raiding). They can thug about as well or better than vanilla elves because they have great forging paths, a good chassis, and their cap guys turn into turbotanks, but they also lack cheap researchers. The flying hoburgs have surprisingly decent damage, but they're glass. Sacreds are mediocre without a storm, but supergood with it.

Lumbuour is, yeah, probably gonna do S1 stuff. Their non-sacred cavalry looks okay, and they have S3X1 up to S4 out of their cap, so they can mind hunt as well. Their S2 out of cap makes LotNS really easy to cast too, and when they need bigger guys they can teleport in when needed. The F random guys can astral fires too, which is cool I guess. Not super impressed with them, since they're like Marverni with 5g archers instead of its boars. I guess they can flaming arrows with 5g archers for THE STORM.

Gaeni has one awesome cap only blood mage and is otherwise just worse MA caelum with their big A mages being cap only (and competing with the blood guys) and their A2s being more expensive. If they can leverage their blood, though, then they'll be able to supplement their armies with storm demons which is something that all the other caelums wish they could do, and they can also use those guys to RoS and stuff

>>173976425
Vancirony is the foulspawn nation, and is so far the only nation with out of cap blood. Their foulspawn are a bit RNG dependent, since you don't know what you'll get. Within the same unit type, you'll get a heavy armor and magic, AP lifesteal attack guy, multi attack dudes, and trash. Their big mages aren't cap only, which is nice, but they're relatively expensive. N3X1 + either A1 or B1. Some will RoS, others will often be hard to use efficiently for stuff other than N buffs.

Mexco has no recruitable blood mages, but they have 'puchis so once they get some blood, they can get a lot more quickly, and of course spam out the assassination which is a massive pain to deal with. Pretty solid D2 mages out of cap (which are even thuggable in a pinch, if skellyspam, nether darts, and shadowblast won't cut it) and bigger D/E mages in cap for buffs, earthquakes, and rigor mortis. Probably the best scaling nation in spite of the fact that they need to summon up their bloodhunters to snowball, since once they do they can grow their blood economy quickly and eventually do the full Mictlan demon armies with onaquis and ozelittles.

>>173978861
EAnomeme is going well and started fast too. I think people are just sick of MA

>>173979718

People are sick of meme games with ME/natgen/summod/elf mod and shit like that. Vanilla games fill up fast.

>>173978882

Can we get some pictures? I love random nations.

>>173980075
>has summod
>not a meme game

Is there a command to make it so a unit CAN'T become a prophet?

>tfw hundreds of hours in the game and I just now learned that something other than your pretender can claim thrones

>>173980303
People asked for it, sunshine

>>173977538
I love that title because it sounds sinister as all hell but actually isn't.

It sounds like someone who carves people up with a knife, but it's actually a nature title so it's basically just saying Indoor Decorator.

Fucking fuck.
So apparently I need to unstart, would we rather unstart and then restart, or wait and see if we get a few more?

Also
>tfw no one sees your super secret weapon

>>173981324
what
why

>>173981006
Dont think so. Maybe you could give it a prophetshape that dies instantly?

>>173981680
Turn 1 stale.
Have to delete them, and either restart it or wait a minute to let other phucks join

>>173981680
One of the players staled turn 1, so a probable drop

>>173981324
>>173981857
I'd be willing to let more folks join. There's a bunch of neat nations left in the pool, include another foulspawn nation with some A/D mages and the A1E1S1 elves

>>173981857
>>173981869
oh, pheaha. Unstart, remove them, let's play on. Don't let someone else take the nation, we've waited long enough for this to start anyway

>>173982051
Maybe set a small time window to allow new people to join?

Also, Phea did ask to be removed. I'd thought that it was a new player when we started with them

>>173981978
>>173982051
I unstarted, I have to finish up at work and then a doc appt, so I'll restart when I get home if that's what people want.
And if anyone is interested but needs time to check the nations out screech at me

>tfw I can raid well but I can't fight an enemy army for shit

>>173793254
vastness is good against elves

>>173976840
Don't do this.

It is MUCH easier to manage 3-4 blood hunters in one province - just keep throwing cheap chaff to patrol. In my opinion it is also more raid and assasin-proof.

Keep two scouts and shuffle them between lab and BH province.

Test it in single player game of course.

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Making a pretender for Bandar Log and this might be the first time I've ever considered a rainbow but I really really like this one.

>W9 for tiger rider blenders and gandharva + 7 defense with celestial music
>B6 to add to the tiger riders killiness and to have high blood super easy
> E4 for reinvig and blood stones and EBDW if my yaksha rolls are shit
>A2 for easy dakinis and trapeezing.

So I'm a fan of this guy but am questioning:
1.) the E4, it's kinda unnecessary but with dom 6 sloth 2 doesn't matter for expansion and I don't want to turn down free points. Open for suggestions on the minor bless, or if just getting a few x2's for classic rainbow booster forging/site searching. Just a huge fan on all my mages having reinvig and my tiger riders too with the fatigue they can get from 6 attacks a turn.

2.) So I went with blood 6 instead of blood 9 because I wasn't sure if the major bless was worth the points. There's not a huge difference in the blood hunting between B6 and B9 and the strength boost is only decreased by 1 and it opens up a lot of points. Though having my mage blobs have blood vengence is a fun deterrent for battlefield clears, not sure it was worth it.

3.)The fucking chasis. I hate how tiny and squishy this guy is. and the fact that he isn't even immortal means no suicide battlefield clears. But I'll have strong chassis's available from astral and blood once I transition to late midgame so I don't think I'll be in too much trouble early on with my tiger riders.

4.) the sloth. I think it'll be fine if my start has a reasonable amount of connections, I'm just not sure what I would want monkey troop wise.

Any opinions would be welcome, not familiar with this nation but it's combo of Lanka and Kailasa is super appealing to me.

>>173986348
Seems okay to me. Not a huge fan of the cold, but you're buying a ton of magic for your bless and so, which makes getting good scales expensive

>>173980075
Vanilla is a meme game

Meme idea: Make titans size 2.

It would be better for RP games instead of having to imagine a giant running around.

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>>173986348
try this desu, I like it more

>>173986719
I've always been of the opinion that a cold malus is basically free growth unless your troops are affected by it i.e. Abysia,NifelGiants, cold blooded. I mean you'll take an income drop but the growth will make up for it and the supplies still end up being positive.

>>173987487

Why cold instead of hot?

>>173987225
That actually is pretty cool I didn't consider taking him dormant because I figured I wouldn't include blood in my research goals till later, but it would be nice to have him awake to get the blood pumping early even if I'm not on dakinis yet he could do some other summons if I get pressed. Or of course site search. Still gives me Ebdw on 1/4 yakshas. The magic 2 has me a little meh, but that's not a deal breaker. Will give him a SP or blitz spin to see if him popping out provides enough value to ditch the e4 and magic 2.

>>173987616
Freeze rivers I would guess.

>>173987616
Blog is heat 2 naturally, so heat 3 only gives me 1 scale.

>>173987225

huh. never seen that site before. should certainly be put in the OP.

http://bsielski.github.io/pretenders/

>>173987487
>>173988028
Oh my bad, I meant a temperature malus in general, I worded that poorly. Whether to go hot/cold just depends on the map to me and my troops and potential summons.

>>173988141
I get what you're saying, but for blog's case, H3 is basically 40 points for almost no income loss, whereas cold 1 is an actual income hit

>>173989317
This is true, but I need to finance my magic somehow. This whole build depends on blood for late game and my tiger riders and midgame magic to keep me relevant until then.

>>173981223
Isn't carpenter of the insides just implying predicting the future from animal guts?

>>173990694

A4E4W9B4 F1
Imprisoned Frost Father
T1S2H3G3L3
dom 5.

Consider Sloth 3 for either neutral order or magic 1. Also would probably recommend O3Mis1 instead. You get 10 points left over that you can put into any magic path, nature wouldn't be a bad idea, if only to raise max age.

Gets you high water, all the blood boosters, all the air boosters, all the earth boosters, staves of elemental mastery and archmage robes.

The bless is a pretty okay mage bless and a pretty good troop bless.

>>173991181
I choose to interpret it my way.

>>173992668
Ohh I didn't think about the magi robe to get me to blood 8. Hell that'll get me to rings with an S4 Rishi. And now that I think about it the additional point of strength blood 6 gives may not be worth the points even though I like how crazy the extra damage gets with strenght of giants. B4 still has 100% success rate for blood hunting. Also the only time I'll be using the super high blood summons will be when I'm in a position to make robe and all the boosters.

I'm kinda meh on the A4 bless but between the staves and the air helmets for dakini to cast fog warriors with just a 4 yogi communion it is very tempting.

Is there a list of admins for /domg/ games? I need to ask for some extensions.

>>173955180

I lol!

>>173993676

The A4 bless is almost entirely incidental, but the ability to leverage high earth/air nonsense with summons/boosters generally makes it worth it.

Do you guys use any mods when you play Blitz?

>>174000639
First blitz I played was with magic enhanced.

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Where do you get your innovative strategies from?

Hey admin of ragnarok. This is mictlan. I will need a sub. I got some stuff going on and I can no longer take on too many games.

>>173986348
at this point i would much rather go luck 3 turmoil 3. and either dump one point off growth luck or magic or even dominion because whatever if someone wants to kill you it won't be with temples.

>>174003697
When I play as EA Ermor I usually try to imitate the Roman Empire.

With the other nations I just kep cav on the side infantry in the middle and archers in the back.

If you were referring to magic I don't waste my time with it.

>>174006718
Is it even possible to win this game without magic? I have serious doubts. Unless you only play against easy AIs.

>>174008378
Even the AI can probably beat you if you dont use any magic at all.

>>174008697
>>174008378
What constitutes magic?
Battle magic, item forging, rituals, blessing?
What about special dominion effects?

>>174009426
Let's use the term in a very restrictive sense. Magic = magic rituals and battle spells. Ignore item forging, blessings and dominion effects.
It still looks impossible to win without magic against human players that aren't playing for the first time.

>>174009652
You can easily win against the AI without using any of the restricted magic.
Unbeatable SC, unkillable sacreds, freespawn nations, nations with reanimation.
Against humans a lot of that isn't going to work though, because they'll either counter your shit with in battle magic or circumvent it with map magic

>>173995573
Post in thread

>>173995573
I granted you a 90 day extension.
I am the admin of all games

>>174010292
Now, for a more complicated question. Is is possible to win against regular human players without using battle magic? All other kinds of magic are autorized.

>>174011301
marverni quad bless innovative boar strat maybe if you diplomancied hard enough and got into a good position for a throne rush. or ermor against shitty players

>>174011301
assuming similar skill levels and a uniform terrain I think Xibalba could probably win a smallish game, or any large game they aren't ganged up on, since they could easily create shitloads of N9B9 beastbats, ozzies, thugs, and assassins

Ermor also tends to win games with little to no battlemagic; relying mostly on Lictors and overwhelming skellington force.

Can Marv break into blood? 7 gems for infinite freespawn patrollers seems to support it.

>>174012203
they can break into it, but why would they bother?
blood saccing is nice, but anything they would be able to do would be second rate at best
INNOVATIVE STRAT being that you empower someone in blood put them at the head of a decent sized communion with a dickload of masters and have them spam reinvig