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Has she make forestcraft great again?

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Old thread >>173736563
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>>173757173
First for please concede 54228
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>>173757173
No of course not, you only run one of her and she's rarely useful
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DRAGON KEKS GOT ETERNALLY BTFO BY FUCKING KYS BLOOD OF ALL THINGS
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>play any class
>never meet forest
>play forest
>go mirror every time
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So does Storm/Neutral Ramp just auto lose to Shadow? I don't think I've ever won a game against that matchup
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>>173757173
She along with aerin makes forest deck much more resilient.

Take note that roach and "midrange" sword currently has a 52% winrate, if there is ever a nerf on dragon/shadow, those 2 will simply take their places.
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>>173757279
What a useless queen she is.
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I think they called Exodium a jew on a discord

LOL
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Spmart was fucking robbed over a shitty rule that was only enforced after that other faggot player lost, riot on these shitters twitterspace mybook whatever the fuck.

Justice for Spmart
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>>173757428
What cards should cycuck nerf on dragon/shadow anyway?
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>>173757439
>elf queen gives birth to dwarves
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>>173757567
I'm gonna change my name to "ExodiumISJew" (12 characters) and enter next weeks tournament

Fuck those guys
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>>173757439
Just like real life!
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>>173757669
Zele is fucking stupid for a start.
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>>173757764
At least be subtle anon
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>>173757840

Hitting his evo stats wouldn't really help would it? Unless you mercilessly butchered them to no stat gain.
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>>173757669
Most likely to be prince catacomb, and >>173757840
Doubt cygames will nerf leggos when there's silvers to be used as scapegoat for nerfs.
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>>173757961
Why would I need to be subtle? There's no restrictions on name
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What should I craft? I have 19k vials so not quite enough to craft 3 aegis and 3 belphegor unless I vial things. Could also use tsubaki for midrange sword, fill out my shadow/blood lists, or make something off-meta. Not really sure how to find something fun in this meta desu.
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>>173757439
Just like your English.
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>>173757840
How about make his fanfare require dragoncraft have 1 leftover play point to activate?

With this if player want to saha+baha+zell combo they need to wait for turn 10, this will eliminate zell+oro combo, cant say much for 13 minion from prince of darkness.
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Any thoughts on this aggro shadow variant I made? Better chance against ward heavy decks and Rahab.
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>draft ouroboros and zell in T2
>end up doing the evo combo
>this happens not in just one game, but again in a game later
this combo is so broken
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>>173758259
I'm sorry my english is useless.
Who fucking care anon?
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>>173758116
Play Storm Ramp Dragon or MidRange Shadow until you do find something fun. Or be like me and play Control/Combo Blood.
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>>173758293
I think the simplest solution would be that he can only give storm to dragoncraft followers
No more storm bahamut or israfil
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>get the perfect fucking hand on my kys blood
>but it's against a rune memer who just happened to get two mutagenic bolts in hand.
It's just not fair.
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>>173758659
Ouro is still 11 damage, not having a storm finisher attached to a well statted 2 drop is the better idea. Make him a 1/1 that becomes a 2/2 on evo so you can't use him to break through Grimnir and so that he's a liability in the early game and an actual combo piece instead of something you can just drop against aggro to contest board on top of giving you free wins against control.
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>>173757669
>Zell can only give Storm to Dragoncraft followers
>Catacomb is 4pp
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>>173758880
11 damage for 10pp is perfectly reasonable
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>>173757669
grimnir
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>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9KnHUbU0AA3sxl.jpg:orig
for some reason we are getting a small wave of fanart, do the nips know something we dont???????
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What happened on NGE?
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>>173759465
not SV bb
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>>173759545
Tourney hosts were forced at gunpoint to play DShift for 20 games straight.
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>>173759545
Dragoncucks getting rekt by suicide blood
Fun was had
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>>173759632
>beast dominator
>not sv
what did xhe mean by that?
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>>173757567
seriously, fucking leddit seems more autistic than usual lately

they robbed Spmart of the win and now they're apparently having some huge shitstorm over whether to ban porn or not
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>since everyone is running wards thanks to Grimnir, pic-related always has activators around unlike back in RoB

Guess I can finally make use of that animated playset of mine.
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>>173758324
Try Attendant instead, and put back your Goblins, anon.
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>>173757567

Literally nobody even noticed my reddit post until exodium got the Admins to rule in his favor.

Why am I getting blamed for this?
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>>173760004
Because you are a filthy ledditor and you should kill yourself.
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>>173759928
Make Nep's Ledger deck. It's pretty cool.

>>173760003
Attendant instead of what? I'll see what I can try to take out for Goblins and play test it. I've been on a 4-win streak since using the deck I posted though.
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>>173760004
Because no one cares about losers.
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>>173759801

It hurts that you blame me.

If anything comes out of this I hope Tramps gets the ruling reversed.

It's too late for them to compensate me but they can give Tramps his win back.
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>>173760004
>Why am I getting blamed for this?
>Niko child shitter
Geh, I wonder
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Don't worry about the meta, guys. Next expansion will fix it.
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>>173759801
how did they robbed spmart of the win?
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>>173759801
I checked out the shitstorm and apparently they made fucking strawpolls over it too, christ

http://www.strawpoll.me/12726135
http://www.strawpoll.me/12726143

don't use reddit but i'm going to vote to free the porn just to annoy the normies
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>>173760124
>Because no one cares about losers.

Unless they're famous twitch personalities for Shadow Nexus.
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>>173760004
>Why am I getting blamed for this?
>redditor

Can't you just stay on your shtity subreddit?
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>>173760157
It's not like the nazi mods even care about the poll anyway, they'll just keep doing their thing liek they always did
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>>173760102
Attendant and Goblin instead of Corpse and Thigh, if they are not working out for you.
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>>173760136
>fix it
>fix
>not just imbalance the meta in another direction

As someone who has played MtG for a long time, all new expac's do is just shift the imbalance in another direction for a while. Honestly, what the game needs is banned and restricted cards.
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>>173760157
>gore
>"porn"
Fuck off to reddit. You are the ones fucking up 4chan.
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>>173758880
Because of Zell affecting Neutral followers, Ramp doesn't have the gameplay of a control deck, it's a combo deck, it's simply too consistent. You don't care about the board anymore, you're just desperately trying to draw into Zell + Zell targets to straight up murder your opponent with huge Storm damage. It's completely degenerate.

Laura has the same text, but Blood doesn't have access to ramp cards. Enabling Vengeance has some counterplay, Zell has no counterplay besides "Play a Ward that has more than 4 health".
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>>173760125
the comment on reddit being retarded was more over the other shitshow going on and then the tournament mods deciding to null Spmart's win after the fact because of the post, not blaming you though it did seem that way

>>173760152
he misclicked and chose a class he had already won with partway through the match
he then went on to win the match and they DQ'd him for clicking the wrong deck earlier

it's stupid because he had already won the match and they hadn't even enforced the rule earlier
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how come you guys know a lot about that place????
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>>173760249
>free the porn
>free the gore

do you see a difference between these two statements
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>>173760004
It's not your fault. If anything i'd be more pissed off cuz that other shitter got a free pass and your loss still counted.
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Reddit ruins EVERYTHING.
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>>173760450
>reddit loves lunashit
>/svg/ is full of lunashitters
was this place reddit all along?
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>>173760385
i'm assuming the actual reddit users brought info over and then some of us checked the subreddit to see what the hell they were talking about
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>>173760004
https://www.reddit.com/user/NinjaRealist

This is you, right? Seriously, kill yourself you annoying cunt.
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>>173760202
>famous twitch personalities for Shadow Nexus.
>famous twitch personalities
>famous
>Shadow Nexus
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>>173760312
>>173760234
>>173760152

It's just ridiculous that you're blaming me for this.

If the admins put any stock in my opinion they would have made the same ruling in my case.

My thread didn't even get any views until AFTER the tournament was over. No one would have ever noticed my thread except for what happened in the finals.
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>>173760609
>"not blaming you"
>"you're blaming me for this"
rip me then
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>>173760505
>hating on cutest girl luna-chan
You have to go back.
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>>173760407
>want these things allowed on reddit
For what damn purpose? It seems that you're the normalfag trying to push some distorted 4chan there.
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>>173760312

Sorry didn't mean to quote you in this post.

>>173760609
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>>173760609
Nigga no one cares. Fuck off back to your subreddit. You are not wanted on here you cancerous piece of shit
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>>173757173
My take twos since the new set dropped have been completely shit, I never go above 3-2 anymore.

What happened?
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>>173760675
Magisa is cutest girl.
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>>173760521
>it's that one autist who wanted his name attached to his deck
can't make this shit up
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>>173760702
Stop being a faggot jesus, you obviously care enough to complain like a bitch to him. Grow some fucking hair on your testicles and stop cucking yourself by responding to him. Stop with your petty shit.
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>>173760673

I'm sorry I didn't mean to quote you. My brain is totally fucked at this point. I would have never made the post if I knew this would happen but I'm not going to be a coward and delete it now.
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>>173760721
More bullshit instawin cards were introduced to take two, more variance
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>>173760675
i aint no lunashitter, you are the one that needs o go back
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>>173760787
>t. ledditor
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>>173758068
Make it a 1/2 that evos into a 2/3. pretty simple. That way he can't clear most common wards and is a tempo killer early on..
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>>173760795
Like it's actually upsetting, it feels like it's not worth playing out half the games after a point just because they hit a better card.
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>>173760505
>only reddit is allowed to like luna

I know a feminist who likes to play Love Plus. Does that mean all those who play it is feminists?
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>>173760609
Make a big stink about it and see if you can get some free vials from the deal.
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>>173760843
>t. faggot
now kys
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I just pulled sneks. Is it worth vialing it?
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>>173760721
Pick shadow over sword and enjoy the free wins
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>>173760693
i'm not the one who posted the strawpolls, i'm just pointing out the difference between two sentences
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>>173760870
Yes.
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>Play take two
>Go second
>Take 10 damage from swordcraft opponent who just goes face constantly
>Take 10 burst damage from their stupid legendary

Why do people play this game?
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>>173760870
you mean dyke right? also not even related m8
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>>173760505
Luna is streamer's. Vampy is reddit and discord as well but doing field operation. Dubcuck is Discord. Ding Dong and Unica are /gbfg/ circlejerk. I hope this helps.
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>>173760912
My shadow run today only went 1-4. I'll admit it was my fault for one of the wins, but still.
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>"e-sports" shitshow
>2 weeks in

Well, this nonsense is only going to escalate because e-sports are for turbo austists. Really wish we could nice things like golem-chan. The majority of people in the NA are pathetic and don't deserve anything though.
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>>173760521
>>173760771

Ok. I'm legit scared now.

I'm sorry. I will fuck off.
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>>173760903
Don't vial cards
Sneks will make a comeback once dragon gets nerfed into Tier 3
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>>173760925
Thanks I guess.
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>>173760961
So who is /svg/?
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>>173760749
Magisa is the sexiest, but Luna is cuter.
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>>173760958
No, a fucking femi-"women are better than men"-nist. Hell, she even published her work about korean AI in the future.
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>>173760903
Keep ONE (1) sneks. Grammar can fuck off.
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>>173760946
Take two is sort of fucked now.
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How badly fucked aggro/mid shadow if they make Prince's ability to give skelly needing at least 1 or 2 shadow per follower given last words.
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>>173761001
Scared of what?
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>>173761047
everything, hence fags warring over things like reddit, discord, and streams that don't matter.
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>>173761047
Gook. Gooks always rule shitty game generals.
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is it worth saving any t2 tickets? or should I use them ASAP
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>>173761047
/svg/ is Rowen.
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>>173761047
Rowen obviously
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>>173761158
>Intern-kun is daed
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>the only Haven deck with >50% winrate
>shits on Ramp and Aggro Shadow
>lets you use Garuda as a leader with all of his glory
>has best girl Moon
>doesn't need a single card from TotG
Why aren't you playing Storm Haven right now?
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>>173761047
is this a serious question?
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>>173761103
Huge hit for aggro but midrange can still endure.
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>>173760102
>Make Nep's Ledger deck
?
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>>173761228
I don't have Garudas.
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>>173761228
post a viable deck for us.
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>>173761228
>slowest "aggro"
>shit on aggro shadow

Literally how? And before you start sending doves at a dragon, he already has rehab out.
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>>173761228
Because NO VIALZ
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>>173761228
>Storm Haven
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>>173761228
I've been playing it on and off since DE, I'm with you brother
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>>173761228
What's Almiraj cost again? Maybe just spamming her and going face could work in this meta.
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>>173761103
That's a retarded change. Catacomb IS the card that helps you get shadows. Your shadow generator shouldn't cost shadows.

Catacomb should be 4PP, his effect is too strong and too early for 3PP. Luna has a 60% winrate when going first precisely because you can't react in time when they play turn 3 catacomb. It can also enable bullshit turn 5 plays with reaper + catacomb. It's just too mana-efficient.
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>>173760771
Holy shit I remember that.

Going through his history is hilarious.
https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/5fjzm7/finally_asked_my_e_sister_not_to_contact_me/

https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/5nzttt/n_grandma_mistakenly_sent_me_a_text_message_that/

>>173761001
You are the kind of person no one wants on /a/ or /vg/.
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>>173761228
>no cards from TotG
Octobishop is pure value though
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>>173761284
here m8
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>>173761308
>aggro
It's a tempo deck. Also, just look at statistics or try playing the deck.
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>>173761413
He may be true Garuda but he isn't true Storm Haven if he can't make Dark Je annus work.
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>>173761352
>Channukah
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>>173761440
>tempo
>no need to explain, just look at the statistic or play the deck

You don't sound convincing enough with those statements. I haven't even come across any storm hag in this season in ranked.
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>>173760004
dumb gremlinposter
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>luna dying gives you one more shadow
kek
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>>173761352
>Its the jews again
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>>173760771
>>173761352
Wait. Is he the guy that got mad because the Feena nerf ruin his deck and sent Cygames a long email?
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Why don't any normal people stream this game? Like holy shit.
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>>173761298
Not him, but this is the build I've been using since the start of the post-nerf RoB meta. No changes since then, still doing great.
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>>173761352
>literally writing his diary on the net

I thought these idiots went extinct.
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>>173761646
I'm bad
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>>173761572
yes
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>>173761228
Post storm haven dicks. Haven't used this in forever, not sure if this is the optimal version
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>>173761660
Its hilarious.

He is also the kind of person who cries about insults on the internet. https://www.reddit.com/r/jillstein/comments/58x7cj/was_recently_told_i_should_be_shot_in_the_head/
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>>173761646
I don't have a camera, I'm fairly normie looking but I don't know if people would watch a stream that's more about goofy decks and techs rather than comedy.
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>>173761776
>jill
Who?
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>>173761683
Do you have a screenshot of that email?
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>>173761228

Thanks for the easiest trials ever. Lucked out since I faced storm haven back to back.
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>>173760521
>>173760771
>>173761352
>>173761572
>constantly shits on leddit and says he loves 4chin for epic anonymous hivemind xD
>is a huge ledditor all along
Can't make this shit up.
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>>173761647
Fuck
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>>>/a/
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Should i send pizzas to the redditors house tomorrow?
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>>173761968
Send it to me, I'm starving.
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>>173760521
>>173761352
>26 year old
>Studied african culture in tanzania
>jew
>still ived with his mommy until recently
You can't make this shit up
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>>173760004
>downvoted
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>>173761646
If I take off that mask, will he die?
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>>173761813
I tried to look for it. This is most likely him.
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>>173761646

I can dig it.
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>>173761821
>A0
Your trials would've been the easiest ever even if you were playing a perfectly optimized Midshadow deck.
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>>173761137
Dunno, there's a SLIGHT chance that they'll give us Tempest packs as rewards like back in DE. But if you need them standard packs and golds just go for it.
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>>173760004
How is your social anxiety going lad?
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>>173761813
>>173762179
Nevermind. Found it.
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>>173761821
>A0
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>>173761646
Still waiting for some streamer to play with this on.

Hell, it'll pretty rad for halloween too.
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ORTHUS HAS ARRIVE!!!
GOTTTA TAKE WHAT OPPONENT'S YOU GET
HEEEEELLLLL BLADE!!
http://usamin.love/card/orthrus/e_death.wav
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>>173761821
A rank is still baby leagues so of course its easy
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>>173762423
This guy has no idea how card games work holy fuck.
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>>173762423
Thanks anon, I had a good laugh
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Easy 5-0 boys
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>>173762537
>othrus won't be greeting her sister until next patch

Then again, they could work on adding the lines for Cerberus back at Orthrus and Charon too.
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>>173762537

ARF ARF ARF
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>>173762619
If they doing it im pumping as fuck
Does Elf King greet Elf Queen?
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>>173762564
>>173761821
At least you guys got to do your trials. For my A0 and AA0 trials, people just pity conceded to me on the spot.
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>>173762574
>I began to feel a deep anxiety over the idea that I was an affluent white male, whose existence was built on a foundation of bones

And he is legit mentally challenged as well.
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>>173761228
>gets absolutely shit stomped by ramp dragon
yeah i'll pass my dude
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>Play Roach deck
>Face opponents with literally all wards in their decks 4 games in a row
Epic
Simply epic

I just gave up and played a PtP deck to finish my dailies.
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>>173762705
Unfortunately no. So far, there's the following.

>Charon to Cerberus
>Elf Girl Liza to Cynthia
>Siegfred to Fafnir
>Azazel to Lucifer
>Felpurr Kitten to Elf Child May
>Lily to Crystalia Tia & Crystalia Eve
>Gert, Vice Captain to Amelia, Silver Paladin
>Data Masamune to Seigfred
>Veight to Vampire Noble to Vania, Vampire Princess
>Luxwing Reno to Luxwing Kit & Luxhorn Sarissa
>Luxhorn Sarissa to Luxwing Kit & Luxwing Reno
>Goblin Mage to Fortunehunter Feena
>Fortunehunter Feena to Goblin Mage & Goblinbreaker Teena
>Goblinbreaker Teena to Lucius, Goblin Slayer
>Grimnir, War Cyclone to Odin
>Crystalia Aerin to Crystalia Lily & Crystalia Tia
>Naval Guard Simone to Jolly Rogers
>Captain Lecia to Captain Walfrid
>Captain Walfrid to Captain Lecia
>Othrus to Cerberus (Not available yet)
>Gravekeeper Sonia to Zoe, Queen of Goldenia
>Zoe, Queen of Goldenia to Gravekeeper Sonia
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>>173762619
is cerb actually her sister or are you talking about someone else?
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>>173762924
Holyshit, thanks anon
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reroll?
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>>173762924
No Yurius and Albert? And I want some Nepnep and Khawy interaction.
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>>173763081
yes
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>>173763081
Yep
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>>173763081
Absolutely
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>>173761998
>jew

I wish this ninjarealist delusional shitass would vanish like the Jew
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>Zell into Satan Servant
Is there a better feeling?
Way more consistent than Zell+Baha+Saha too.
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>>173763006
It's her sister.

>>173763115
Yeah, I missed the following for whatever reason
>Yurius, Levin Duke to Albert, Levin Saber
>Jeno, Levin Vanguard to Albert, Levin Saber
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>>173763151
>>173763190
>>173763196
may i know why, just asking. well, this is my first reroll that i got 6 legendary.
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>Unpack 3 boosters
>Animated Zeus
>Zeus
Reeeeeeeee I want Belphs instead to meme with
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>>173763287
Just play the game, there is no reason to reroll.
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>>173762924
>Siegfred to Fafnir
Fuck, we'll never get to listen to this in an actual match.
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>>173763287
Only 2 of those are decent (Tia and Ouroboros). But Tia isn't even used much in Forest decks nowadays and Ouro is in Ramp Dragon which requires you to have like 20 legendaries.
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Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with PHP. I want to select everything from an SQL table and show it in a properly formatted HTML table. But as I do "select *" obviously, it just spits out the entire data without any formatting. Any help?
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>>173763251
Satan ramp is a lot of fun with zell now
Too bad it's so slow, but it destroys other slower decks
It's really powerful in the dragon mirror and especially against haven
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>>173763287
Ouroboros is good but Dragon has the most expensive deck in the game. Tia is ok but if you want to play forest just buy the forest precon x3 and you're set
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After rough day of abusing her she's finally showing her smile back.
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>>173763459
install gentoo
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57235

Concede please. Emote if you need one in return.
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I think there was a picture of Vampy that had her looking at some cards like this. Does anybody have it?
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>>173763459
select * from which_table
And what format?
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>>173763519
This version is much better.
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>>173762537
>>173762664
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>>173763519
>>173763638
If you two can get me her evolved form too, I can make a mod for that. It's just minor changes, so the animated won't clash as much.
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>>173763620
Yeah it's select * from user.

I want to get the data in a neat table so it looks like

login | password
moot | lolita4life

etc.
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>>173763657
This cutie can't be orthus.
>>173763638
agreed, this one less creepy, the other one looks like someone corrupting her beyond repair.
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>>173763638
Need a yandere version
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Why isn't there a "fuck you, stupid emoting slant eyed gook bitch" emote?
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>>173763430
>>173763440
>>173763508
thanks.

>Dragon has the most expensive deck in the game
this is new to me. So which one is the cheapest/easy to expensive/hardest to play? I've only tried Forest in tutorial and Dragon, Sword and Rune in AI practice.
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Any good list using Roland? I got the opportunity to fall in love with her and want to make a deck.
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>>173763519
>>173763638
>Saha gets to tap this everyday
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Just when I thought today couldn't get any worse with Shadowverse shit, that fucking tranny is streaming again

I wish he'd decide to kill himself sooner like all the other trannies
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>>173763902
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>>173763940
>thinking we care about someone on twitch
plz keep your autism to yourself anon
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>>173763727
Sadly I'm not making this, if original editor can do it pls do.
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>>173763739
You should do 2 queries amd save in temp variables (dont know what language you are using):
a = Select login, password from user
then do a loop:
write(a[i,0] \n);

And dont ask in here.
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>>173763996
>thinking we care about your carelessness
Lmao he thinks we care
WE are the chosen ones
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>>173763885
You can buy the forest or shadow precon x3 and be able to build a tier 1 deck almost right away. Haven decks require 2-3 legendarys, 0 if you go storm haven. Sword requires 3 legendarys. Rune is unplayable shit right now. Blood needs 3 legendary. Also note that forest has the highest learning curve, shadow and sword are pretty easy to play
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>>173764062
>>173763739
fix a bit
write(a[i,0] | a[i,1] \n)
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>>173763848
They will add it right after they make a "HOWAITO PIGGU GO HOME" emote.
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Need Help to complete private match from mission

38858
9/20
emote if you need win.
Go 1st win, go 2nd lose
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>>173763739
Why are you asking in here anyways? This isn't programming discussion.
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>>173760771
>wanted his name attached to his deck

Why is this a thing now? Did this start with HS? Because prior to HS the most I can recall is hearing "<name>'s variant of <actual deck name>".

I only started playing in RoB, are there any older decks that actually used somebody's name instead of the actual deck wincon/archetype? Because I remember it happening in HS.
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>>173764327
Bump,thanks arisa

38858
10/20
emote if you need win.
Go 1st win, go 2nd lose
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>>173764328
>>173764138
>>173764062
I won't lie I have no idea what you just wrote, but I am using PHP. I'll work on my own now uwu
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>>173764537
Thanks Urias, Im off to sleep now,will continue later
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>>173763638
>>173763519

I found a better version than both of yours.

You're welcome!
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>>173761352
That was actually sad to read, this guy seriously needs to see a psychiatrist.
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>Well adjusted contributing members of society tier
Forest
Blood
Sword

>Metaslave cucks that can't even form coherent thoughts tier
Shadow
Dragon
Haven

>Literally extinct tier
Rune
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>>173764347
Nips refer variants based on the one who found it. (Frifin's list, CCS midshadow etc)

No one in their right mind named their own decks, though.

Hell, I piloted 2378 with reaper way back, but never named it after myself because that's stupid
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Angelic barrage is so fucking good right now holy shit
I've had two auto concedes from shadow since yesterday just from sniping off their Reaper
Of course it's mostly useless against dragon but it's impossible to tech against both so it can't be helped
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>>173764967
frifin published his Mid Shadow list already?
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>>173764875
STOP TAINTING MY WAIFU
DELETE
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>>173765006
Nope, I meant the aggro shadow he piloted in RoB.

That dude is an elusive one. He doesn't even tweet, let alone streaming.
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>>173765001
It's also good because it's unexpected, any Shadow player would know better to evolve their Reapers against Haven and Dragon.
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Huh.
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>>173765105
Damn, that guy has like a 70% WR or something, the list has to be some good shit.
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Lol eXodium deleted his annoucement.
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>>173765195
>no Turn 1 sacred plea
Why didn't you concede yet?
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keep or reroll?
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>>173765195
Evil deeds = Ended
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>>173765352
reroll
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>>173765352
Reroll, there's like 2, maybe 3 playable cards there at most
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>>173765352
Keep
9/10 roll

You should get to masters within 2 weeks with that collection
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>>173765345
Because I actually won.

>>173765373
Praise Havencraft.
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>>173765069
it fits her art tho
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>>173765352
reroll
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>>173765352
I WANT THAT ANIMATED NEPNEP
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When are we getting new leaders?
SF don't count.
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>>173765352
>9 legendaries
>reroll

/svg/ are retarded. Keep it.
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I'd need a concede,
67612,
thanks.
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>>173765524

>Pamela is not a rune leader

Why even live?
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A FIFTH FUCKING FAIRY CAGE
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>>173765352
You got really a lot of vials.
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What a pack!
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>>173766309
>a meme lego and 3 meme golds
nice
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>>173766236
Thanks Arisa.
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So does this deck just auto-lose to Haven and Shadow if I don't play the full storm version.
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>>173766124
Those are some terrible legos (or need way more to work), every lego you wanna use directly is worth 2,5 so unless he wanna play either nep or aegis it's all shit.
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>>173766265
>not a single fairy cage
>every other golden is x2 or x3
>only one golden card was x4
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Is it pointless to try to tech against Haven? Should I accept it as an autoloss?
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>>173766468
Yes, that's why you play the storm version.
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deaths breath needs to be fucking removed from the game
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>>173766624
I still lose to Shadow though so I guess it's an auto lose to that matchup
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>>173766549
You barely see any Haven and you win 90% of the other matchups, why would you gut your deck?
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>>173766693
Eh, you can kinda race shadow, and you do run some anti-aggro stuff like Rahab.
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>>173765352
With the TotG meta you want to shoot for a combined total of 2 or more the following:

>Shadow
Cerbs
Hectors

>Haven
Aegis

>Blood
Baphomet

>Sword
Albert

Dragon is too expensive to reroll for, but if any of your rerolls have a decent number of Sahas/Isras/Bahas/Lucifers/Sibyls you can consider it a plus if you want to play dragon long term.
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>>173766124
He has 9 legendaries, but only 3 of them are usable (saha/nep/aegis). It's pointless to keep bad legendaries outside of vial value, he can reroll to get playable cards instead of vials. Out of those 3 legendaries, only Aegis and Nep are good because Saha is only good in a very expensive deck.

Telling him to reroll is correct.
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>>173766698
I run into haven all the fucking time
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173766813
Maybe in sub masters, but here in low masters all you see are lunapedos and sprinkled with stray rowens.
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>three of a kind on board at the same time

Why can't I hold all these animated cards?

Yeah, I fucked up. Should have traded before dropping Prince.
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>opponent plays shadow reaper
>wrath drake to snipe the reaper
>opponent concedes

why are you shadowniggers so bad at playing around cards
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Luna is my love, Luna is my life.
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>>173766354
>Meme lego

Elf Queen is a very good card to have exactly one of
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>>173766981
>queue into low masters
>isabelle
>luna
>arisa
>luna
>isabelle
>aggro blood (not kys)
>eris
>luna
finished my dailies at that point so I don't have a larger sample size but this feels about on par with roach/daria meta where tier 2 decks are still literally half of the ladder

>isabelle
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>>173766724
I guess, I try to mulligan for cards to deal with aggro but I end up bricking a lot or they just make cantrip's that I can't keep dealing with so I never really make it to end game. If I do I get cucked by Eachtor or something. This is my current list, debating if I should use Lightning Blast but I don't know what to cut.
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I really want to craft 3 Eachtars but I'm afraid of pulling one later.
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>>173767534

Craft 2. I run mid and only use 2 anyway.
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>>173767534
You can just make two and run a wind god/thane in the slot until you pull the third
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>>173767519
Run a couple Unica's if you're facing a lot of aggro, it really slows them down.

You can probably cut a Ouroboros or two if you really need to. I'm guessing you don't have the Saha's or Isra's because they really help vs aggro with healing/clearing. The Urd and Siegfried might not be worth it but I'm unsure.
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>There are still people who don't play haven in this meta
>It has a chance against both dragon and shadow (the aggro variant, midrange still fucks you)
JOIN THE BANISHCAUST, BIRDS AND SISTERS
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>>173767534
Just craft 3. Chances of never pulling him are higher than pulling him, unless you intend to whale hard.
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>>173767323
Are you running ramp?
I'm more amazed you managed to stick it in there.
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>>173767519
and this is why you keep in sahaquiel and don't run the full storm version, fool
running saha doesn't even mean you're giving up on your commitment to storm because she gives you more opportunities to send zell's evo effect to face, it's just a flat improvement on your ability to staunch the bleeding
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>>173767325
Do not lewd the Luna, thank you.
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>>173767703
Nah, I'm gonna sit here playing Forest

It's still lowkey amazing
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>>173767746
Luna is lewd. Lewdna.
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>>173767703
This is your hag for the week
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>>173767745
Saha+israfil can shutdown shadow while pushing a ton of face damage too. Saha-less Dragon lists can't compete.
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>>173767703
>good against dragon

What can you do against 13 damage to the face?
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>>173767827
You have to wait till she's all grown up first, anon.
>>
secret pack opening technique exposed:
>press the + button if you buy multiple packs
>wait until the light is at its brightess then click to open
>open the pack backwards
>place your cursor in the middle of the card at the middle circle every time you flip a card.
>flip the card at the highest glow.
i have gained an average of 1 leggo per 4 packs doing this method
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>>173764062
>>173764138
I did it! And now understand what you typed. Thanks anon!
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Is there anyway to cast enhance cards for their normal cost?
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>>173767946
This
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>>173767964
I used to swipe left to right and I was unlucky, now I click the cards one by one and I get legos every 2 days, no joke.

Click the cards in this order:
18273645 (1st then 8th then 2nd etc.)
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>>173768045
Not while you have enough pp for the enhance cost.
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>>173767703
Stop giving me Eidolons instead of playable cards and I'll consider it
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>>173768071
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>>173767958
Luna is old enough. It's time for her to grow up with a man's help. All of her firsts will be with me, and it'll be amazing.
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>>173768071
An anon a while back said he goes 45362718. I try it and got Ouro, Ginger, a third Minthe, Saber, and a animated Eramus.
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>>173767745
>>173767935
Issue when I was using Sahaquiel+Isafril i'd never make it to late game or by the time I do i'm already <10 HP even if I stalled with Rahab or Breath. Mind sharing lists?
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Anyone else love bullying rowen?
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>>173768247
Also, I'm going to bed with Luna now. Good night.
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>>173768071
Holy shit guys i tried these and got 3 jeanne
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>>173768373
>>173768284
>>173768071
>>173768140
holy fucking shit guys i got a tripple leggo pack from this method
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>>173768361
feels good man
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>>173768431
You'll never believe this, I got NINE legos doing this method.
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i don't know for how long i should reroll
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>>173768535
Ancient Elf is good
Belphegor is good
Fairy Princess is shit
Queen Vampire is meh
Dark Jeanne is meme tier
Wolf is good
Alexander is meme tier
Pluto is shit
Atomy is meme tier
Aegis is good
Prince of Darkness is good
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>>173768535
Keep that if you want to play Forest.
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>>173768532
>>173768431
>>173768373
>>173768284
Kys
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>>173768372
>Also, I'm going to bed with Luna now.
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>>173768361
>>173768446
>the nightmare still hasn't ended yet
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>>173768247

FTFY
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>>173768690
Is that a fucking Eachtar? Holy shit
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>>173767325
Uncensored where?
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>>173768535
>more than 0 animated legendaries + not dogshit for the rest of the roll
that's when I'd stop
stopped rerolling back in standard once I got an animated aurelia, and on my alt (made during RoB) once I got animated tia
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>>173768703
delete this
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>>173767946
This
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>>173768797
Doesn't exist, sadly.
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>>173768901
no.
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>>173768345
I mean sometimes you do just lose but that's card games, you're having trouble making it to late game as is right? The thing about having saha+isra is that if your opponent's lategame draws and plays are presence instead of burn, the angels make sure none of that goes toward your face at a cost that's actually affordable unlike say bahamut
phoneposting so a list is hard for me but just cut all your 4 drops besides rahab for 2 saha 2 isra, ramp dragon doesn't want to go jab-for-jab with value 4 drops since you generally lose that fight, like the other guy said sieg/urd are unorthodox and kinda sketch
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>>173768902
>showing a screenshot of a bricking dragon

Nice.
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>>173768140
>>173768071
>>173768284
>>173768431
>>173768532
>>173768690
thanks for the method i still cant believe this actually
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Returning player, haven't played since Darkness Evolved here. Did they nerf take two rewards? I used to be able to chain do arena pretty often thanks to the rewards from going 3-2 even. Also, how the fuck do you deal in take two with shit like Heavenly Aegis and Ouroboros? It's me or the amount of Olivias and multi legendaries in take two decks is inane now?
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>>173768345
https://www.openrec.tv/live/9s1CA4wDAP8
This JP guy streams Ramp dragon non-stop and is a high master (34k MP). I watch him from time to time to see how Dragon performs.

I'm not a Dragon main but if I'd play a ramp list, I'd play with a core like pic related. With the 6 cards left, you can fit many different cards depending on what you like. You can cut corners by removing copies to fit some others, like Draconic Fervor x2 for example.

>genesis dragon (can complement a 13 dmg baha zell burst)
>forte (cheap storm damage, but 5 dmg can be too low)
>zeus (same as forte but the ward is the selling point)
>blazing breath (anti aggro)
>scyther (cheap hard removal)
>lightning blast (anti ouroboros, not cheap hard removal)
>dragon warrior (seems outdated nowadays)

If I'd complete this list, I'd play 2x scyther 2x genesis 2x blazing breath, but it's up to you.
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>>173768361
>plays the most cancerous deck in the meta.
>wow look at me guys.
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>>173769258
>It's me or the amount of Olivias and multi legendaries in take two decks is inane now?
Standard is rotated out of T2
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>>173769046
I don't know if you can call it bricking after 17 turns. He comboed me twice, once with ouroborus and once with Zeus, he also played 2 bahamut.
I also guess he drew all the removals he had in his deck, but from my perspective it didn't feel like a free game. Also he drew a lot, played 2x oracle for drawing and 3x fervor.
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>>173769258
>Did they nerf take two rewards?
yes
>how the fuck do you deal in take two with shit like Heavenly Aegis and Ouroboros?
have your own "I win" button that's faster, e.g. maelstrom serpent or albert, or tempo them out
otherwise just resign yourself to the fact that every 4-1 corresponds to a 1-4 and someone has to get fucked
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Elf is for ______
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>>173769323
Ah, makes sense. I hadn't seen certain useless Standard cards in these arenas I did, I was surprised. I assume Dragon, Shadow and Sword are the strongest, with Haven being a close fourth, in T2? Rune seems as weak as ever, Blood seems mediocre and I haven't seen a single Forest yet. What's a good way to get tickets now?
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>>173769258
>Did they nerf take two rewards? I used to be able to chain do arena pretty often thanks to the rewards from going 3-2 even.
No idea, could be bad luck.
>Also, how the fuck do you deal in take two with shit like Heavenly Aegis and Ouroboros?
Try to draft for aggressive curves and end the game before turn 9-10 but still has some good hard removals in case of Bahamut, Shadow and Sword are very good at this.
It's me or the amount of Olivias and multi legendaries in take two decks is inane now?
Yep, they increased it which is fucking bullshit.
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69071
Need a win or concede
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>>173769393
Hugging
Handholding
Smiling
Protecting
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>>173769393
Hugging
Handholding
Smiling
Protecting
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>>173769323
they should change the pack reward too then
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>>173769463
Thanks Luna!
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>>173766549
What about haven is giving you trouble? The healing? AoE? wards?
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>>173768361
kill yourself pedonigerr.
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>try to play deck that wins through board advantage and smart trades
>it isn't mid shadow
>lose to dragon shitting bahamuts
I'd like to really try out board centric decks like support canon, some rune variants or even discard dragon with the new pucewyrm. Bahamut was a mistake.
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>>173769040
Yeah, I understand you can't win every game but it's disheartening to juggle between like 1k points closer to getting to A3 and then get knocked back to needing 1800+ more points. Maybe I just need to work on getting that combo with Baha & Zell and not expend evolution points so early. Haven is pretty frustrating match up as well with the stall and the Aegis in the end.
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need concede please.

62959
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Why does the game insist on me getting social? Don't they realize I don't wanna go outside?

Anyway, concede plz
99557
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>>173769802
Thanks Vania.
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>>173769839
Thanks Forte bro!
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I want to craft Minthe's and Anomalies.
Why do I have these stupid urges, please help.
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>>173769951
Minthe is still salvageable, Anomaly seems like it would be forever shitty but we'll never know.
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Wouldn't Anomaly work in lock forest?
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>Want to play kys blood
>Don't want to craft soul dealers
>Won't ever open soul dealers since I never open standard except dailies/take two tickets

Surely the deck isn't as fun as it looks, r-right?
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>>173757173
>Play count, it's not too hot
>Print Candelabra of prayers
>Doesn't work with manifestation, soul collector, or tamer and nerfs chorus
>Print aegis and lightning blast
>Just want my fucking win 1 daily to go and stay go when I have a trash haven lbirary
What did kikegames mean by this?

>>173757310
A good deck will always power through
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>>173770196
it's not fun, it's generic midrange
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>ywn take your Isabelle sleeves to a magic tournament
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>>173770146
SHHHHHHHH
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>>173769601
>Can't have too much of a board presence, or bahamut will demolish me
>Can't have too little of a board presence, or I won't be able to put enough pressure on the opponent
Bahamut is a retarded card.
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I cringe every time I see someone's name in japanese yet they have an American/European flag.
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>>173770263
how
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>>173770348
what if they're just ameriboos?
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>>173770146
lock forest?
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>octobishop forces shadow to trade in him else he sticks on board
>forbidden ritual catacombs and all his board
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>173770493
>archetype so unpopular people don't even know it
Some forest cards can lock the opponents' from attacking. Cards like Selwyn or Forest Archelon.
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>>173770263
Isabelle was in Bahamut?
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>>173770146
>Dance of Death
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>>173770029
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.61jJY.61jJY.61jJY.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k32.61k32.61k32.69O26.69O26.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.5zvvQ.6D9ks.6D9ks.6D9ks.6DATQ.6DATQ.61lmu.61lmu.61lmu.6DCB6.6DCB6.6DCB6.6DEdM.6DEdM.6DEdM.61oww.61oww.65Zv6.65Zv6.65Zv6.69LcK.69LcK.69LcK.6DH3I.6DH3S.6DH3S.6DH3S#_=_
secret t0 deck please dont share this on reddit
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I just wake up.

Can someone give me quick rundown on this reddit drama thing?
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>>173770583
the only answer to anomaly that gets shut down by boardlocking someone with archelon is, like, tsubaki
most of the removal that makes anomaly eat shit and die comes from spells
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>>173770628
Looks pretty good, but I'm not making 4 mediocre legos for it.
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>>173770146
No. It does nothing about storm, burn, or rush and it does nothing about removal in hand
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Have you bought any real TCG cards since trying out Shadowverse?
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>>173770592
There was a collab.
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>>173770757
Fuck no. Who the goddamn fuck would willingly participate in extortion? If you really want to play physical with friends just make some shitty bootlegs instead of hurr we only printed a few of this core card, make it rain or die :^)
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>>173770757
I still actively play real life card games so yes. All of my savings pretty much go to buying card singles nowadays.
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>>173770672
first gaming subreddit to outright allow hentai/nudes (technically always has, just wasn't explicit until now)
some say the main subreddit for the game shouldn't allow it because it will alienate newcomers and others alike who go to read actual gameplay discussion
normies calling weebs degenerates, weebs calling normies prudes; people also in the middle
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>>173770841
can't they just make another one specifically for porn? Why is that so hard?
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>>173769601
>>173770325
bahamut is not a problem here you dummies
problem is dragon get to bahamut faster than everyone else, so it's actually impossible to contest the board with amulets/wards after ~ T7
Don't forget the lightning blast, which also wipes everything you have on board.
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>>173770841
well it does give off a bad vibe, they post more porn than this board does. If anyone is interested in the game and goes to the sub they will just assume (correctly) that we only play for the waifu's
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>>173770898
Because they're autistic
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>>173770912
Bahamut is still a problem because any slow deck runs him on top of it being even easier to stall. Bahamut basically broke most of the amulet user decks in RoB
Now everything's faster and dragon has LB on top of Baha. It's a fucking halocaust ion diversity
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>>173770841
>first gaming subreddit to outright allow hentai/nudes (technically always has, just wasn't explicit until now)
NICE
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>>173770925
>>173770919
>>173770898
>>173770841
>>173770672
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i can't believe i have to filter the words "subreddit" and "reddit" to browse /svg/
holy shit you faggots ruined this general completely
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/svg/ should become the first general to allow nudes too
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>>173770995
I don't go there, the general answer to why not x is usually because people are being autistic like the faggot here that shitposts with a name and pass
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>>173770898
that has been suggested, and i believe someone has made one. just hasn't taken off yet i guess.

>>173770919
agreed. for the past few weeks the front page has just been cygames' lewdest official art, and pixiv shit you've already seen here a thousand times. everyone there just eats it up.

also
>dae isabelle's boobs
>who has the best tits/ass
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29131
Need concede
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>>173771001
still better than /hsg/
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>>173770987
no good players run bahamutin their decks, because you will get rekt by aggro/mid shadow if you brick and dragon will have it earlier anyway.
Also, grimmnir is better and much much lighter
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>play mainly haven
>this game

Is it a sin to fap to hags?
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This Frog deck si fuckinh annoying.

It's impossible to get the curve for it.
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>>173771079
Thanks cinnamon roll.
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6 or 9 1-drops in Aggro Shadow?
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How many Lunas have you bullied today, /svg/?
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>>173771243
That's why you run options. You can still kill t7 with arriet.

>>173771180
>Playing count
>Hag repeatedly themises and tribunals everything I do
>Lose despite them not having aegis yet purely out of their DEELETE DELETDELETDELETDELETDELETDELET
Yes. You should kill yourself immediately.
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>>173771539
8
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>>173771554
>atomeme
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>>173771564
neck yourself
or just go back to plebbit, that would be fine too
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>>173771554
oh hey its me on 0:40
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>>173771539
3x beast
3x goblin
2x skeleton
I guess. Not really a fan of 1 drops, I play a midrange deck with none
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>>173771554
i don't think i ever seen wild hunt
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>>173771554
Is this vol. 2? And how many Atomemes have this guy vialed by now lmao?
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>no crystal sales
>no preorder for ToG
>no RoB prebuilts
>no new leaders
cygays hate money
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>>173771539
8-9 for aggro
0-6 for midrange
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SV has really gone to shit huh? I feel like nothing I do matters anymore and every single game is 100% luck. You can't keep a board unless you're shadow and every other deck just wins via burst from hand or a literally unkillable minion. It just feels like a contest of who gets to win first rather than an actual game between two players.
I didn't think things could get worse than RoB but, yet again, the newest expansion has just made things worse. Are they ever going to release an actual good expansion? Are they going to balance Shadow and Dragon so the game isn't fucking garbage?
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>>173767838
>practically autoloses to all the decks save for shadow, which only comes to breaking even due to the banish/shadow mechanic

i'm sure cygames will look at it and say it's fine. haven will always be in the dumpster no matter what.
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Prince Catacomb such a fun card.

Cygames are fucking stupid, Balance this stupid cancer.
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>>173771848
>every single game is 100% luck.
What are you smoking, card games have been that way.
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>>173771848
Die roachshitter
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>>173771835
Luna was in other Cygames games?
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>>173771848
It's going to get worse. This is nothing on the mtg scale they're used to.

>>173771865
Sure
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>>173771848
>roachfucker complaining about bullshit burst damage
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>>173771848
>complains about shadow and dragon and not sword and blood
t. D0
You can play discard dragon at your rank and have 'fun'
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>>173772013
it was a gbf collab
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>>173762924
>no Liza to Elf King or Queen
>no Cerberus, Charon and Minthe all round bantz
>no Little Felpurr and Fighter fun
>no Fighter, Hamsa and Skellow bantz
>no Arriet and Luxwings interactions
>no Mysteria Academy lines
>no Sky Knights bantz
>etc. etc.
Cygames please
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>>173771554
I refuse to believe those are regular matches. Noone plays those cards.
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>>173771539
6 or 7 is the sweet spot but a very aggressive deck that relies on its early game can justify deckbuild with 9. Keep in mind that having too much 1drop can give you games where you draw too much of them and your hand is too low value to kill your opponent. I like playing 9 1drops with Aggro blood but the top blood list played 7. It's up to you, it's your deck.

To give some REAL numbers, see pic related. For the brainlets, see below.

If you're first and mulligan everything, you have :
>71% chance to get a 1drop on t1 with 6 1drop
>77% chance to get a 1drop on t1 with 7 1drop (6% increase)
>82% chance to get a 1drop on t1 with 8 1drop (5% increase)
>86% chance to get a 1drop on t1 with 9 1drop (4% increase)

If you're first and mulligan 2 cards and keep a 2-drop, you have :
>65% chance to get a 1drop on t1 with 6 1drop
>71% chance to get a 1drop on t1 with 7 1drop (6% increase)
>76% chance to get a 1drop on t1 with 8 1drop (5% increase)
>81% chance to get a 1drop on t1 with 9 1drop (5% increase)

http://stattrek.com/online-calculator/hypergeometric.aspx to try some setups for yourself.
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>>173772039
AA3 actually.
You know Shadow has a 60% winrate right? The highest in the game?
>>173772024
>>173771986
Just because I used an Arisa reaction picture doesn't mean I actually play forest
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>I fell for the snek meme.
Also, why is Vampy talking like an Aussie?
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>implyign you've ever seen Shadow not drop Skull on T1.
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>shit out wards and removals
>keep banishing your enemies board
>tons of heals
>drop invulnerable big guys
Dirt rune is fucking cancer
pic unrelated
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>>173772170
no its actually fucking shit.
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>>173772152
Cause she's the best niece
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Anyone tried this?
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>>173771059
Karma whoring is what it is
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>>173772198
Unless you're an even more broken cancer deck. That's where we're at now...
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>>173772152
Blood is so shit that even sneks wins against it.
>>
The best meta was early DE, before the cancerous netdeck Seraph and Dshift lists came out.

Every class was playable. PtP Forest was a bit too strong but was beatable with any deck of any class.
Midrange Shadow, midrange Sword, Tempo Forest, Storm Ramp, Storm Haven, Elana Haven, Dshift, Control Blood, Aggro Blood.

Then cycucks prints out tons of removal that killed the old midrange sword and mid range shadow, created the cancerous Daria and Roach OTK with RoB.
Everything afterwards went downhill.
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>>173772309
No it's just that they flat out refuse to nerf shit because they're lazy fucks.
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>>173772309
Wrong, the best meta was RoB post-nerf.
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>>173772170
It's shit actually.
I would know, I've tried to ladder with it. You just can't keep up with the ridiculously bullshit decks now.
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>>173772295
Snek is hidden OP. Nobody just have enough patrician taste to make it work.
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>>173772170
good doujins of best girl when
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I wasted my 500 gold purchase Forte.
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>>173772132
Thanks for the math. What leads you to conclude that 6 or 7 is the sweet spot?
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>>173772345
>The best meta was aggro sword featuring daria fest
Yeah no
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>>173772393
Now post all 19 out of 20 times you got your board of sneks cleared or lost after you laid it down.
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>>173772334
>lazy
>not greedy

the only reason why they refuse to nerf shit is because it would fuck with the vial economy, which would go counter to their earnings.

when balance decisions are closely tied with the micro economy of the game, you'll get imbalances, slap on the wrist nerfs, and refusals to change things when the bottom line is threatened by balance changes.
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>>173772393
>Aggro luna that doesn't run answers leaves
I dunno what you're trying to prove.
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Would someone mind letting me kill them for daily mission + private match achievement?

81663
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>Takes an hour to win 1 with haven
>It only happens because they're a badly built deck with fairy princess
Nice game
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>>173772478
I got my sneks cleared all of the time, that's why I run other options to keep the deck running.
>>
Do you think Goblin Princess fucks the goblins
>>
The best metas were standard and DE. These metas saw the greatest amount of viable decks and the biggest tier 1s.
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>>173772581
>Takes an hour to win 1 with haven
So like 4 games?
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>>173772581
it's a shitty craft that relies on amulet cooldowns, removals, and heals to get anywhere. what did you expect?
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>>173772536
Thank you, Suicide Urias!
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>>173762924
>Azazel to Lucifer
>You and I are different allow me to prove it
How are they different
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>>173772515
>You lost? Stop playing Blood and Sneks, they suck!
>You win? They just didn't play answers!
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>>173772601
Oh A3. Well enjoy playing sneks while it lasts.
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>>173772607
Only the king fucks the princess
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>>173772614
>DE
>where half the ladders was infested by elana and dshift
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>>173772625
For it to be able to do anything? The only parts that vaguely work are the storm haven cards. I want to fucking vomit at how disgusting this fucking is

>>173772675
Just saying dude. That's like saying inferno dragon was good because daria and other aggros that were light on removal couldn't answer it consistently or repeatedly.
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>>173772614
>run 3x odin or you lose every single match
>greatest amount of viable decks
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>>173772660
One is edgy from birth, the other is edgy after he fucked up.
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>>173772693
You can tell what he was by his post
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>just themis it bruh
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>>173772693
>>173772729
And now you cannot win past turn 5! Why are you still whining about dshift (played on turn ~10+) and seraph (played on turn 10+) like a bitch?
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>>173772461
The first line in the picture (X=1) is about the chance to get EXACTLY 1 1-drop. It's what you want in your opening hand, a single 1-drop to play. This number is the highest for 5 or 6, depending on your mulligan. This number falls after 5 or 6; if you have too much 1-drops, you decrease your chances to have exactly ONE 1-drop, and you rise the chances to have MORE than one 1-drop.

Midrange decks like midshadow that don't count too much on their early game should be with 5-7 1-drops if they want to run 1-drops. Aggro decks should be between 6-9.
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>>173763902
More like Zell is Hip Hip Hooray for SS
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>>173772848
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>>173772729
At least you could actually tech against Seraph decks if you were playing a slow deck yourself
>>173772693
>Complaining about Elana
The real sign of a DE shitter
Everyone who knows the real best decks in DE were Tempo Forest, Elana/Seraph, and Midrange Sword
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>>173772830
Some nips are really trying to bring the queen back.
http://game-ai.jp/29111/
http://game-ai.jp/28009/
http://game-ai.jp/26400/
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>there's no one else I'd rather lose to!
What did Rowen mean by this?
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>>173772830
>not a single forbidden ritual
shittu decku
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>>173772729
>Dragon starts deletverse at turn 6-7
>Haven spams removal and wards while fetching out to turn 9 for tribunal-test aegis
>Aggro shadow skelly rush kekeke's right through you and to counter that guarantees you die to the other meta decks unless you're pendant which only mostly dies to everything else
>Sword homos are still saber striking each other while whispering nohomo like it'll make the lie become the truth
>Urias chokes you on his bara snek cock or vampy vengeance rushes you into oblivion
>Daria still kills any decks that weren't powercreeped
>Forest still kills any decks that weren't powercreeped in addition to having very powerful ward and heal
>Dragon now has lightning blast which everybody runs which means you have to autoconcede if you use amulet decks at all
I sure do love how everything that wasn't a t1, t1.5 deck has been basically deleted. Great fucking meta now.
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>Aggro/MIdrange Shadow, Ramp Dragon, Suicide Blood, and Aegis
Time to never play ranked again until the next expansion
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>>173772979
I'm trying as well. I believe Otohime is viable in this meta, it's just that Sword is horrible overall. Otohime was considered bad because Daria was too fast for Sword and a very popular deck. Otohime can be deadly if your opponent can't react to it. Forest decks in particular are very helpless against Otohime.

I'm experimenting with a Gawain deck and I have 2x Otohime and I have to say that she won me some games. I don't run any kind of board buffer like sage or walfrid, she's just there to pressure when your opponent is too passive. You can board buff with Luminous Mage if need be.
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>>173772718
>For it to be able to do anything?

whatever the reason that was running through their heads, the developers made a craft that is inherently defensive in a game that favors offense. it's why throughout the course of this game, with the exception of DE, haven has been a mediocre craft.

>design a craft that can't win on a fundamental level
>make it so that it has "lose-less" cards

gg wp cygames

even with DE, storm haven wasn't the king of top tier decks. it was figured out and was eventually on its way to tier 2 status and now resides in the basket bin of tier 3 decks along with a bunch of other decks that were pushed out of the meta.

haven itself is only sustained now by the presence of rampancy dragon and shadow since its really bad match ups are pushed out by those two. once the "nerfs" are applied to shadow and dragon, you'll see haven drop down like a rock in usage and winrate, moreso than usual.
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>>173773142
>he thinks it's going to get better
Lmayo
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Is there a more skill intensive matchup than Ramp Dragon?
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>>173773243
Shadow mirrors are the equivalent of simultaneously playing 5D chess with 50 people at the same time while wearing a blindfold.
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>>173773179
Try gawain with castle in the sky to ramp leonidas and otomemer for 17+. Swordsman the ward they drop to block it.
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>>173773142
you mean we have 5 t1 decks? it sounds pretty cool
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>>173772962
Those were the best decks but the most popular ones are still Elana and DShift which were very frustrating to play against.
>>173772838
Because I don't even get to play the actual fucking game against DShift and Elana/Seraph.
>dshift (played on turn ~10+)
>seraph (played on turn 10+)
Total bullshit, DShift average is turn 8 and Seraph is almost without fail played on turn 8 with turn 9 follow-up.
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>>173757173
How good should your internet connection be when playing Shadowverse? I'm playing on a third-world tier internet, which makes me consider dropping the game.
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>>173773142
>kys blood is meta enough for people to whine about it now
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>>173773415
If you peel away the meme qualities an obnoxious aggro deck is still an obnoxious aggro deck
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>>173773385
I am playing on a third world jungle SEA internet and its working fine
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>>173773142
Just wait untill sword returns T1 like every single expansion.
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>>173773142
>>173773415
What blood deck are you talking about?
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>>173773554
The one that raped Dragon.
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>>173773504
What makes an obnoxious aggro deck an obnoxious aggro deck?
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>>173773385
I measured the data with my phone, a single match uses around 100kb or less.
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How do the nips feel about Sahazell anyway?
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>>173773283
>aegis
>t1

it's barely a t2 deck at best. winrate of about 46% in masters.

once the faster decks start popping out of the wood work, it'll drop down to tier 3/4 status.
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>>173773415
>free storm 6/5 on turn 5
Hows that albert treating you?
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>>173773580
Blood beat dragon? In this expansion? What the hell did Tempest add that could beat Ramp's infinite healing? Obviously not otk.
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>>173773596
Every aggro deck in this game is an obnoxious aggro deck
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>complaining about aggro
>in a meta with one aggro deck
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>>173773925
>1
Its 3 actually
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>>173773925
And it's one of the worst the game has ever had
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>>173773283
Oh boy! FIVE whole decks! Gee wowzers!
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>>173773843
The one where you kys to activate Vengeance and spam the board with overstatted follower by turn 5-6 to fuck with greedy Dragons but die to Shadows.
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>>173773885
Thanks comrade
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>>173773925
Yes, 1 unbeatable deck you'll see in 9/10 matches.
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>>173773415
It's pretty savage if your deck can't do enough about it.
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>>173774073
>shadow

yet all i seem to run into is dragon
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>>173774013
Those are some sweet memes, can you add numbers to it so I can do some rolls?
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God, fuck going second
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>>173774101
this is not kys blood
this is actual kill yourself blood
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>Olivia and Bahamut more common than ever
>Sword and Shadow still OP as fuck
>More late game I win buttons with Aegis
They have absolutely no idea how to make a good limited format do they?
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>>173774073
More like you'll meet an unbeatable deck in 47/50 matches

>>173774153
https://www.random.org/
Put 92 in the max
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Suggestions for FAG Dshift?
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Fuck Wolfbolt and my shit hand for breaking this streak.
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>>173774203
y tho
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>>173774013
not sure is v. spear is good in aggro/tempo neutral but i never tried it, a faster version without it seem to work well, at least if you add some gilgameh/dod/dstrike as finishers
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>>173774228
It's as meme as any other rune deck right now. Rune sucks anyway. Why not have fun for dailies?
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Some of you guys are alright, don't play T2 in the next hour.
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>>173774013
>dem dragon and sword variants
>Discard JO
What the fucking fuck, how fucking spicy meme is that?
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>when you have enough cards to make Wallet Sword
Shame about the whole skip turn 1/2 thing.
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>>173774013
>no otk azazel or mary meme deck
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I should treat SV as a mobile game, like clash of clans and such, but I'm just too used to card games being won by who played better
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>>173774160
You guys complained about going second is OP so they fixed it :^)
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>>173774203
If you have enough boost and leftover pp try commence experiment? Petrify would also help you reduce their evo impacts
If you're running out of hand, try 1-2 melvie?
Spectral wizard and crystal bombarder any good for additional boost and contesting?
Winter's caprice or rime could help you stall a little more
I don't have shifts so I dunno though. Just tossing shit out there.
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>There actually comes a day when people unironically wants to craft Meme Dealer
Should I?
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>>173774368
Did you ever win a game with that?
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Nerfs when?
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>>173774153
Delete this image, thanks.
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>>173774471
no, it's still leagues worse than dragon and shadow. even if they get nerfed, that means forest is back and blood decks are dead again
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>>173774538
But I can't snek people forever.
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How to get tickets for T2?
>>
86823

need a concede please
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>>173774512
At least 1.5 months and shadow wont get nerfed because it's people not running counters, not that they don't exist.

>>173774471
No.
If you were retarded enough to vial him you have more important problems to address
If you never got him in the first place you have more important problems to address

Get back in the arena gulag and get breaking packs.
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>>173774495
It works against Dshift, because all your 2 pp followers get destroyed or bounced back.

You never have to worry about Gawain not getting value because your whole deck has 30 commanders!

But my answer is __once___
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>>173774583
Ranked rewards, daily log-in bonus, story rewards
>>173774629
>At least 1.5 months and shadow wont get nerfed because it's people not running counters, not that they don't exist.
Please, tell me all about these Shadow counters. Forbidden ritual? That's the only one I can think of.
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>>173774629
>shadow won't get nerfed
>when they have the higher winrate
Not only are they getting nerfed, but they're not getting any more good cards next expansion. They'll push terrible cards with Minthe synergy that'll work as well as CForest.
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>>173774597
Thank you!
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>>173774668
>>173774697
Have you never played any aggro deck against control sword?

Control sword can easily walk all over aggro shadow.
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>>173774583
>Save up 150 rupees
>Buy a tickie
>Chow down on your chikkun tendie
>Go 5-0/4-1 for 8+ tickies until you finally stall
>Start over the next day once you do your dailies
>Repeat
>Get 1 tickie every 15th day as a warn snug hug from the kikes in your wallet

>>173774668
People have wards, heals, board clears, fanfare damage, last word dmg, etc. They'll go the way of tempo elf in time.

>>173774697
They didn't have a problem in playtesting because they weren't retarded
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>>173774753
Mid shadow however destroys CSword as Thane does damage while they clear wards and also prevents Albert from dropping.

Aggro shadow hasn't been the problem deck for a week now, mid has been the new hotness for days.

>>173774762
>They didn't have a problem in playtesting because they weren't retarded
>they didn't even think of using gobu to pull roach
Sure thing, stay delusional.
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>>173774762
People literally play all of those and aggro shadow is still the second best deck in the game
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>>173774828
>but midrange

that's not aggro
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>>173774847
>people
>playing control decks
>in a ramp dragon meta
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>>173774753
Only if Sword goes first and plays Aurelia on curve.

Mid Shadow just dumps all over sword with death's breath and Eactor.
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>>173774285
Agreed, don't play for a bit guys, I'll let you know when I'm done.
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>>173774934
>non-aggro cards
>in aggro shadow

???
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Without crafting or liquefying, what can I do with this for a haven dailies deck?
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>>173774856
Top is aggro shadow, bottom is midrange. It probably gets skewed a bit the same way wolf bolt does but it goes both ways.
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>>173773843
Suicide Blood kills Ramp Dragon.
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>>173774915
Ramp Dragon plays wards, heals, and board clears
Aegis plays wards, heals, banishes, and board clears
Wolfbolt plays wards and heals
It's not enough to stop shadow. Shadow is pure fucking bullshit right now.
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>>173772979
I feel like you need walfrid now to make Otohime viable.
Sage commander is still strong, but Walfrid has won me games on just buffing 3 left over bodyguards.
Unfortunately, going late is suicide since dragon just bahumut/zell/Israfil nukes you until you're dead.
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>>173771045
this
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>SV has its own scamaz now
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>>173774471
Don't do it if you can't craft the whole dealer + belphegor set. That's like playing dshift with only one dshift.
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>>173774471
If you have 3 Belphegors, go ahead. You have to go 2-3 Memedealers and 3 Belphegors
This deck absolutely needs the turn 4 vengeance to work consistently.
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>>173775236
How even? We don't even have origin crystals
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>>173775260
Already got 3 Belphegor. Now I only need 2 dealer for the meme suicide blood.
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Death to all shadows!
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>>173775236
????
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>>173774998
make a seraph haven and add 1 aegis to not autolose to dragon.

at least you have 2 themis thebest haven card
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>>173775236

What happened? Do you mean the tourney ledditor shit? That was small time and he wasn't even the organizer.
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46149 Need to win, no concede.
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>>173775038
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>>173775376
Thanks for the necromancy!
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why am i always the victim of some stupid dream dragon ramp hand man fuck you cygames
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>>173775594
Thx Luna!
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>>173775624
You'd better watch out. Our patience has its limit.
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>1 drop 2 drop Catacomb going first
Literally impossible to beat if they don't have a weak turn, and you curve out perfectly with optimal answers/aggro without floating a single play point. I'm sure the retards will print an answer in the next expansion, once they fucking power creep the deck out of existence making the counter fucking meaningless. They probably will think its Rune's time again, because that class can't be bad for too long, but Haven can be shit forever no worries, and for the billionth fucking time, the moment Shadow/Dragon or any overbuffed expansion reliant class gets nerfed, Forest and Sword creep back up and take their spot, because storm is too balanced, and just ward bro, fuck printing actual counters.
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http://game-ai.jp/30446/
Even roach run grimnir now
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Is Support Cannon viable?
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>>173775604

>72.8% winrate when start first

This has to stop.
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Fuck yeah for kys blood.
Fuck that dragon ruining my win streak. Got oracle into rahab into 2 x sibyl into zell oroborous.
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>animated minthe
should i vial it?
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>>173775846
Your gas chambers are but farts in the wind Fuhrer Eris.
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>>173775968

That card is so good that everyone and their moms run it. It is viable both in aggro and in control. Cygames need to nerf that card and banish shadow for eternity.
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>>173775967
This has gone beyond counters. They need to fucking nerf Shadow.
They really screwed up horribly this expansion. Shadow is pushed to extremes and Dragon and Aegis kill midrange/control decks. I think this is the worst expansion yet.
>>173776076
This was a mistake too. Grimnir was a horrible card to print. Why would they make an on-curve ward double as a board clear/burn in the late game for every single deck?
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>>173775967
>may
>sylvan justice
wow so hard
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>>173776072
>but farts in the wind Fuhrer Eris
L.. Lewd.
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>>173776001
Fucking dragon ruined my aggro blood win streak too because of shit draws

I don't know why shadow and dragon are the only crafts getting hate when blood is just as bad
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>>173776050

Wait for them to implement seer's globe before vialing any animated card.

>>173776072

Actual gas chamber would be ready in 1 month if cygames actually care about the game.
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>shadow gets nerfed
>dragon becomes a tier zero deck

i can only hope

to laugh at all the retards who wanted shadow nerfed
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>>173776076
Just wait for banish lion spirit, breath of banish and skeleton banisher NotLucius next expansion in the eternal board clear vs board flood power creep.
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>>173776050
She will probably get support later.
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>>173776151

>69.1% winrate >>173775604

Wow such a counter.
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>>173775976
Yes. Lists are a little janky right now though as people are working out where to take it because of dragon and aegis shitting up the meta
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>>173776192
At least I don't need to see pedonigger every 3 matches.
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>>173776192
They need to nerf both.
Dragon is completely out of control too. Dragon basically means you can't have a minion based strategy unless you're Shadowcraft.
Aegis is also a shitty card, for the same reasons DShift is. Except Aegis is also incredibly resilient because Aegis is just 1 card you can stick into any deck looking to go to the late game rather than a card you have to build a deck around.
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>>173776220

They should make thinking craft forest viable again.
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so the viable decks these days are wallet dragon, aegis-haven, and aggro shadow, right?
anyone got decklists for either of the not-dragon ones?
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>>173776242
Im triying something, but 5 its a big cost against a storm deck. Is Uriel worth it?
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>>173776318
lurk more, stop infesting the thread with your cancerous requests
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>>173774961
Alright, I'm done.
Have fun guys.
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>>173776192

Once they nerf shadow dragon is not a problem anymore. Shadow is the one that keeping all other class down and they need to tech against shadow. Now that if shadow is gone people can just kill the dragon without the hindrance from the shady mother fucking luna.
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>>173776318
I haven't run into a haven deck in a while

plenty of shadow and dragon tho
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>>173776383
>Shadow goes 5-0 and gets the best reward possible
Luna doesn't deserve to get 2 packs
>>
CATACOMB ECKS DEE
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>>173776409
How? Dragon has no counter that isn't ultra aggro and wins a lot against that too
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>>173776409
yeah

here's a list of decks besides shadow that can beat ramp dragon atm
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>>173776292
>Aegis
This meme needs to fucking die already. How bad does Haven need to be for you retards to leave it alone? A turn 9 do nothing is unfuckingplayable in this game, get this through your fucking skull. Literally every class can kill you from hand in this game. Aegis is inferior to literally every single combo deck in the game, because it gives the opponent to much room to breath. Combo decks WIN at 9, not START winning. Filling your deck with draw and removal isn't fucking "building around" shit, Haven already has to dedicate 30+ cards for the same purpose.
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>>173776465

Wolfbolt and haven can beat dragon, as long as grimnir is nerfed too.
>>
89742

Need a concede please
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>>173776581
>Wolfbolt
>beating dragon
ahahah *zells your face for 10 damage*
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>>173776318
Aegis haven is vastly overrated.
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>>173776524
Aegis is a bad card for the game. It's not about power level, it's about being incredibly oppressive for a certain deck archetype.
A mark of a poorly desiged deck is when the only way to beat them is to kill them before they kill you
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>>173774368
where is the cannons
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>>173776640
>A mark of a poorly desiged deck is when the only way to beat them is to kill them before they kill you
all decks do that though
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>>173776524
It doesn't need to be bad, it needs to be less stall into a card that wins you the game.
>ward, hard removal, heal
>heal, ward, hard removal
>hard removal, heal, ward

>just kill them before they drop their wincon :^)
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>>173776524
If you control correctly it's exactly what you need to clinch a game. I'd say it's basically even with Baha as a wincon, except you don't get fucked by last words.

And it's only a turn 9 do nothing if you don't play test of strength beforehand, in which case yeah, you deserve to lose.
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>The Shadow Faggots deleted their PSA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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>>173776465

Dragon just seem oppressive when you faced them but easier to beat compare to shadow. If we can tech against them, their winrate will drop naturally.
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>>173776524
No no no man haven ees op they remove mi followers
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>>173776640
>It's not about power level, it's about being incredibly oppressive for a certain deck archetype.
What archetype? Retarded grinder decks with no wincons that autists who want 20 turn games enjoy playing? The type of deck that cygames has been explicit doesn't want to be played?
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>>173776704
>And it's only a turn 9 do nothing if you don't play test of strength beforehand
>lightning blast
>bahamut
and your test is gone, with a million damage ready to get stormed into your face by dragon or 3 orobourus/4 grinmir damage you cannot do anything about even with test of strenght
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>>173776705
They know they didn't deserve that win.

Now I'll never ever take them seriously.
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>>173776642
God, cannon is so satisfying in commandercraft, but it just doesn't seem viable. Removal/Face damage all while populating the bored is awesome, but I just haven't made it more successful than the two leading sword archetypes.

If anyone's made Cannons work, please share dick.
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>>173776705

What PSA?
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>>173776591
Still need help

89742
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>>173776325
If you're going all in on cannon then yes.
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>>173776792
Any lategame deck, not just grinder decks. If you can't win before turn 9-10, your deck is invalidated.
And yet they print cards to support lategame decks at the same time because game design?
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>>173776524
Unplayable in the "meta" doesn't mean it doesn't beat the shit out of other people. It basically rakes up a fuckton of decks and dumps them in the obsolete forever bin
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>>173776705
Does that mean /ourguy/ get the win now?
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>>173776797
You don't play Aegis unless your ToS survives, or evolving Aegis to trade is enough to keep you save. Not to mention you're playing Haven, so with enough wards and heals and removal, you really shouldn't have health that low on turn 9 anyway, or you deserve to lose.

Y'know what, that's an important part. You're supposed to fucking lose 40-50% of the time anyway even on a good deck. Removalverse is just about playing threats until you exhaust your opponent's ability to remove them, so why give a shit if there are cards that can counter you? It's like you'd only be happy if Seraph was unbanishable and only took one turn to proc.
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>>173776892
eXsodium made a blog post saying "well this wasn't the win I wanted but NGE made the right choice in declaring me the entire winner of the tournament I feel so bad but rules are rules ;)"
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>>173776894
Thanks!
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>>173776820
5 cost is way too much
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why is porn banned here? can we unban it please
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>>173776972

They actually called him a jew in the discord or at least someone did

lmao
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>>173776524
>inb4 millions of replies from beginner ranks
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16227

Need a concede, please!

>>173777004

Stop discussing Reddit drama.
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>>173776972

I have no idea about the situation but everything seems like a mess. NGE was a mistake.
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>>173776524
Aegis is just as fucking gay as DShift and we don't need more of that in this game.
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I am the Dark Dragoon, ruler of the skies!
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>>173776994
But if it was lower I think it would be kind of ridiculously OP.

Yes, it's a huge tempo loss, but it has ridiculous value as long as it doesn't get removed and you can survive the aggro. I guess I can't figure out a way to be able to play it on T5 without severely fucking myself in the ass. Once it's up and rolling though, Jesus. It just doubles the effectiveness of your follower spam. I want to make it work so badly, course I can't bring myself to craft a third one to actually focus a deck around it.
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>>173777091
The difference is that Dshift is shit now.
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>>173776969
I guess you never played the deck or you'd know you don't always fucking draw godly.

>you really shouldn't have health that low on turn 9 anyway, or you deserve to lose.
turns out dragon is at 10 mana since turn 6 so it's not that easy to stop them unless you draw really well, you're not always going to have a second or a third ToS too.
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>>173777081
And to think that all you fucking get is vials

what a fucking joke
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>>173776524
If you don't want Aegis we forest want it. We can exchange Anomaly with you.

>>173777004
This is a blueboard that's why.
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>>173776969
>It's like you'd only be happy if Seraph was unbanishable and only took one turn to proc.
??? These fucking arguments always go like this. You are the ones trying to make it sound like Aegis is this absurdly strong invincible deck and whenever someone offers a rebuttal you punt the fucking goalpost to the other side of the stadium and pretend it's the haven players whining that Aegis isn't broken enough. Fuck off already. It's not Haven's fault your shitty meme decks aren't winning enough.
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>>173777117
DELETE
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>>173776994
It just needed to do something when it comes into play.

Like deal damage to an enemy follower or some shit. So it isn't a huge loss of tempo
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>>173776969
pls stop
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>>173777149
>Ramp dragon is strong
Welcome to the meta for the next 4 months.

And still,
>card draws are random
No fucking shit. It's a CCG it's based on who gets the best draws. Lose like a man.
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>>173777075

thanks fellow nep bro
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>>173777135
And Aegis is the new cancer that replaces it.
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>opened at least 90 TotG packs by now
>still don't have a third Dark Airjammer

Fuck off game, I'm not crafting that shit.
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>>173777164
Literally no one said Aegis is strong or invincible. People hate Aegis because it's really shitty, frustrating card design
Shadowverse is already not very interactive, so printing cards that make it even less interactive is ridiculous. You want your card game to have as much interactivity as possible, not remove interactivity at every opportunity. Else it just becomes frustrating to play
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>>173776969
t1 Plea
t2 BLACKED
t3 prism or temple defender drops
t4 Removal or ebil deeds XD
t5 Ebil deeds XD
t6 Tribunal for aegis drop and BLACKED something
t7 Whatever counter needed, probably themis
t8 Test and death sentence
t9 Amulets pop and with aegis clear the board
t10 Spam bahamut/themis each turn because literally nothing in the game can stop you from hitting now and you're guaranteed to have them
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>>173777209
>4 months
Actually, 2.5 months.
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>>173777253
Its a fucking bronze you dumb dork
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>>173777261
Not disagreeing with you, but how could SV add more "interactivity" without it just being more removal?

You already have to play shit like you expect it to be gone the next turn, which is why Storm is king.
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>>173777253
dumb dorkposter
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>>173776994
It's really not when it's basically +3-5pp of value every turn after
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>>173776409

This. I climbed ladder purely on Dragon/Haven wins with kys. Shadow is just an instant lose 70% of the time and that's with me dedicating 4 cards to the matchup. Once Shadow is brought down then everything will even out. Dragon is still really fucking strong and probably needs some kind of nerf but its not the meta defining cancer that is Shadow.

>>173776473

Did you not watch /ourguy/ dismantle Dragon yesterday?
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>>173777323
>it's a bronze

Stupid anti-dork poster
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>>173777345
Hand disruption/discard/cost increasing/whatever, trap cards/secrets, prison cards, etc. You know, ways to prevent your opponent from playing their storm burst combo or bombs instead of just having to accept it
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>>173777172
You have numerous ways to get over the tempo. It's basically even better than arthurian light into Monika then run off to value town

>>173777323
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>>173777418
Just give Prince Catacombs ability a Necromancy trigger each time it gives the Last Words to an allied follower, like Eachtar's ability
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Below: Aegis' winrates at B and below

And now you know what kind of player cries about a 9pp do nothing :^)
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>>173777519
Pls no

Haven was cancerous enough with just removal and timed removal
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>>173777305
Man, this kind of weirds me out. Even if it's ~3 months between expansions, that's friggin' four expansions per year. It makes me worried about any staying power the game has; designing tons of new cards without powercreep is a tall order, and once you start creeping, the clock starts ticking.

But then again, this is the only card game I've ever played. I just don't get how they can have any real longevity without diluting the meta to ridiculous amounts. I know they sometimes rotate out expacs, but that's no fun
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>>173777537
>Make Prince Catacombs unplayable
Huh
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>>173777551
>He still thinks people are complaining because Aegis is overpowered
One day you'll understand the greater ramifications of a card like Aegis and why it's bad for the game anon
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>>173777537

No. Change it to be like this:

>Prince Catacomb
>3PP 1/1
>Fanfare: Give last words: summon a skelly to all Prince Catacomb
>Enhance (5) Give last words: summon a skelly to all followers instead.
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>>173777519
Then it dies because nothing else on Luna's rotting earth can generate the shadows they need with the constant board clear
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>>173777345
>how could SV add more "interactivity" without it just being more removal?
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>>173777551
>mfw that's real
Jesus Christ
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>>173777537
If you want to nerf him without making him garbage just make it so his fanfare gives everything but himself the last words.
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What are some substitutions for Soul Dealer in kys blood?
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>>173777345
Printing less cards that take it away could've helped.
Or making a format for those who like their games not be autobattle tier that are mostly decided at mulligan. I play ccgs to play them, not to see flashy visuals while the game plays itself.
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>>173777635
What you just wrote is not understandable
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Themis should be 5 pp banish
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this game is literally curvestone now, just curve out and you win. fucking niggers cant balance shit and keep putting overstatted cards
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>>173777551
Hmm... It's almost like... Like... If people who gave in to playing cancer decks just kill the aegis meanwhile the people who didn't get fucked because Aegis is head and shoulders above them???? Wow, such insight.
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>>173777629
>implying that's what his picture was saying

It proves that only low rank shitters who don't know how to play the game lose to Aegis. ie you.
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>>173777712
i.e at 3PP it can only give skelly to himself and other Catacomb. To have his current effect you need to play him at 5PP. With this change he will be a balance card again.
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>>173777721
Aegis and Seraph should be deleted.
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>>173777629
>Oh no, I can't play my boring dirt Rune decks with no wincons that everyone already hated playing against anyway
Dshift has also existed since standard you know
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>>173777635
5pp for 2-3 1/1 skelly's is a bit garbage my dude

>>173777735
Pretty much. My hopes were dashed. There's no hope left in card games.
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>>173777760
Once again, no one is complaining about losing to Aegis. This is not about winning or losing. This is about how uninteractivity is bad design.
>>173777781
And Dshift is also a terrible deck for the game, yes. I'm glad you understand anon.
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>>173777737
>Decks that aren't shit = cancer decks
Thanks for the insight from the mind of a loser
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>>173777345
For each point of damage, a follower, amulet, or spell deals, you must do a micro-game to successfully deal that damage

The micro-game will vary depending if it was a follower, spell, or amulet

For example, if it is a follower, a bar will pop up with a red area on it and a dot moving back and forth along the bar. You must click and stop the dot within the red area.

BAM

VIABLE
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>>173777721
Themis - 6PP - Destroy all followers
Enhance (9) - Banish them instead
:^)
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>>173777779
Your heckin LIFE should be deleted nerd
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>>173775604
Luna is too stronk
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>>173777781
A lot more than dirt were deleted from the game and you'd know it if you weren't cancer.

>>173777868
>Decks that got gigantic oppressive powercreep to the point that they strangle the other decks in their zone of control are just "decks that aren't shit"
Wew lad
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>>173777885
You first Havenshitter
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>>173777836

>A balanced card is garbage

t. pedonigger

>>173777721

That is even more OP than blast since Haven usually have nothing but Amulet on their board. They should just print a new card that can banish tokens instantly.
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>>173776473
Blood already has a positive winrate over dragon now that people gave up on trying to meme with snakes and otk blood decks.

Shadow is BY FAR it's worse matchup.

Once they nerf shadow blood improves, forest improves, sword improves. All three of those classes lose much harder to shadow then they do to dragon. Dragon is near 50% winrate and it's not just shadow that is keeping it there, it's winrates are pretty balanced against every craft compared to shadow. Only Rune gets shit on, but they get shit on by almost everything right now.
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please stop replying to plebbit
>>173777927
>>173777737
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>tfw you can urd aegis for a free aegis
why isnt anyone else running this broken as fuck combo
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Havencraft is the chemo against current shadow meta

Stop whining bbs
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>>173775604

>A deck that has 73% winrate is allowed to stay after the meta already settled
>While in hearthstone even the most broken deck which is pirate warrior only have 56% winrate

Wow, and I thought team 5 was bad at balancing.
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>>173777551

I don't even bother to explain why Aegis is a balanced and relatively weak card anymore. The people who complain about it are so fucking shit at the game that they don't understand basic game mechanics.

I'm still looking for that "wallet haven" that one cuck kept saying was unbeatable.
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>>173777943
I main Seacraft. I can recognize that 3-1/1 for 5pp is shit. Even if the world went mad and you dropped him on turn 5 on a 4 body board you're still only getting delayed 12 stat for 5pp most of which is gonna mulch doing nothing

>>173778042
>Stuff I don't agree with is plebbit
Please stop replying to plebbit guys. srsly
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>>173777875
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>>173777838
>Interactivity means trapping my opponent into a 25 turn game where I stall endlessly with wards and removal and heals and whatever until my opponent is forced to quit
I'm so sad for you
>>173777927
Ahahaha holy shit, an actual old school dirt rune player (ie a faggot), get with the fucking times, you are supposed to be an aggro deck now.
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>all these literally whos arguing about mundane cards
Sure feels good to be on the top.
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>>173777836
>There's no hope left in card games.
Why is every card game curve out and win now?
Shadowverse had so much potential in the beginning but they've fucked it up so much. Instead of fixing the problems that were in standard they've focused on them and made them even worse.
What is with nip card games and insane powercreep anyway
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>>173777781
Dirtrune didn't have wincons of its own, so they relied on PtP and Satan.

Not as strong, but they're wincons nontheless.
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>>173778069
Because you can't
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>>173777927
I don't think that's Aegis' fault per se.
Just make it so Test of Strength affects Aegis and the "problem" is dealt with.
Other control decks, such as Forest Ward and Roland Sword would be able to compete pretty well.
The issue is, if you're a midrange to control deck and you don't have a way to keep a sticky board, Bahamut will just clear your board T6-T7.
Increasing ramp dragon's ability to safely get to 10 mana has basically killed control, since they'll just drop lightning blast or bahamut.
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>>173778129
? I'm literally winning games off of it
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Has Cygames said anything about nerf for Shadow?
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>>173778094
>posting Tumblrtale as if that game invented that concept

Fuck off
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>>173778093
>which is gonna mulch doing nothing

Compared to current version of course it is worse. However this will force them to start running windgod again instead of just stuff everything to be aggro.
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What did anonymous poster 173778069<< mean by this
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>>173777838

Aegis is just as uninteractive as Prince. They work the same way by putting a timer on the game. You are pressured into ending the game before they are, Aegis might as well be an amulet or something that puts 3 Dis into your hand. You don't "interact" with Aegis, you end game. That's what shitters like you don't understand.

If you don't have a wincon available turn 10+ then you deserve to lose. The only people complaining about Aegis are the people who don't know how to close out games. Such as low rank shitters like you.
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/r/shadowverse here

Please stop ruining our website with your shitty porn picture. Thanks.
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>>173778014
You are just full of shit, Dragon doesn't win as hard but it's raping everything, too.
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Reminder that you can only call yourself skilled and good if you play Bloodcraft.
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>>173778201
kys ledditor
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>>173778219
whats dragon's winrate vs dragon tho
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/r/shadowverse here

We need a new shipment of big black cocks so please help us out. Thanks.
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>>173778080
Chemo your cancerous self out of existence.
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>>173778223

Reminder that you can't call yourself skilled and good if you play a 3pp do nothing instead of living on the edge.
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>>173778283
ROFL
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>>173778219

>Highest winrate is 61%

It is still quite ok compare to the 73% by Shadow. Once the shadowcaust happened other class will have a better time to deal with dragon.
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Reddit here AMA


i main shadowcraft btw
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>>173778276
Both win so obvious 100%
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>>173778325
>i-it's okay because there's something worse
That's not how it works, both are problematic and both deserve nerfs.
>>173778276
Between 49 and 51.
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>>173778340
havencraft main here, how candelabra into forbidden ritual banishing all your board?
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>>173778194
>Aegis is just as uninteractive as Prince
Except it's not because banish exists? You drop a forbidden ritual or play a calamitous curse and the prince problem is dealt with. Aegis can never be dealt with by design.
>You don't "interact" with Aegis, you end game. That's what shitters like you don't understand.
I understand perfectly. I just think it's terrible design.
>The only people complaining about Aegis are the people who don't know how to close out games. Such as low rank shitters like you.
AA3 here friend. I understand completely what this game wants. Cygames is enforcing a softcap for their precious mobile players who don't actually want to play the game and just want to win quickly on their daily commute.
I just think it's shitty design that makes the game weaker overall. Just because you might not like more grindy decks doesn't mean everyone hates them; some people enjoy not only playing those kind of decks, but also playing against them. By completely ousting late-game oriented decks you lose a big part of card games just to pander to their precious retard audience.
There should be design space for decks of every archetype. If you don't want to paly against grindy decks, you can always just concede against them after all. There's no reason to forcibly remove them from the game like Cygames has done time and time again. Besides, the most baffling thing is they print cards that would go in said grindy decks yet then print so much uncounterable hate for them that they might as well have not even bothered.
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>>173778435

I think nerfing Grimnir should be able to bring down dragon's winrate to normal level.
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>>173778223
kys bby
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>>173778135
No, it doesn't solve aegis and you wouldn't think that if you were constantly eating grimnir/themis/bahamuts from turn 10 on regardless of the bodies I drop like I and others are. No amount of wards and bodies of any strength stops them unless you go back in time to run a different deck that doesn't care that literally 2/3 of the game has been invalidated for you.

Aegis and baha+lb ramp have deleted slow decks from existence harder than satan ever tried. Meanwhile, if you try to rush/burn them down they have the ward, removal, and heal that it doesn't matter
Aggro/midrange shadow is faster and better than all the others in their class effectively deleting them
Midrange can't beat either because they're too overtuned for it to have a chance.
Amulet decks are basically dead because they can't even attempt to absorb the tempo loss against such aggressive decks anymore and they're simply removed by the stronger decks leaving a gutted husk of a deck 2+ turns behind with nothing it can put out to recover against such overtuned bullshit
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>>173776473

>japs go on 30+ masters winstreaks with kys
>japs win tournies with kys
>/ourguy/ wins last night with kys
>/svg/ still thinks its a meme deck and thinks that dragon beats blood

As expected of the general that thought Sybil was bad for ramping and that Eachter was mediocre and that sneks were unbeatable.
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>this haven vs shadow shitpost war again

Svg just got a u t i s t i c
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>>173778305
Living on the edge!
Of glory!
Saber Strike! Saber Strike! Saber Strike!
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>>173778483
>Except it's not because banish exists? You drop a forbidden ritual or play a calamitous curse and the prince problem is dealt with. Aegis can never be dealt with by design.

Stopped reading here. If you think that Prince of Darkness is the power of that card and not the cards you draw off it then your opinion is instantly discarded.

Thanks for proving you're a B0 shitter.
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>>173778508
Other decks need Grimnir to deal with aggro. Nerf Zell.
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>>173778483
Tbqh I think Aegis as a soft cap is ok. They can't always goes to turn 9 and you can always storm them to death. Catacomb however is a real problem. You just lost on turn 3, not even lost to the player but to the deck itself. Shadow players are literally just vessel for their deck.
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>>173778219
>not master

Opinion fucking discarded retard. Nice job trying to hide it.

It's winrate isn't even as good as midrange sword was at the end of last expansion. Kill yourself you deflecting shadownigger.
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>>173778483
>>173778565
I'm curious about this parallel dimension you guys come from where dshift never existed and "slow" decks were anything other than memeshit you played to annoy your opponent. Please tell me more :^)
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>>173778650
No wonder. Shadow still have PTSD from DE.
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>>173778790
Only shitter complain about havencraft desu
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>>173778483
>You drop a forbidden ritual or play a calamitous curse and the prince problem is dealt with
>a card that can only banish 2 def followers and a card that can only banish 2 or 5 def followers deals with a 6 def card that adds 13/13s and 8/8s to your hand on to of 7 damage face burn spells

How is it even possible to be this bad? Like, it doesn't even make sense. How can a mongoloid this retarded post on the internet?
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>>173778730
>Other decks need Grimnir to deal with aggro.

>When Healing Angel already exists
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>>173778730

>Every deck should have an auto include card which is universally good

Fuck off. Grimnir needs a nerf. There are 2 ways to nerf it:

>1. remove his ward,
or
>2. Increase his enhance effect by 1PP
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>>173778194
Then start reducing amulet costs and do more about the storm/burn or concede cancer that's strangling the game. TotG was a thick meaty wad right into the face of a lot of people.
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>>173778163
yeah check their blog, eachtar and catacombs are both completely fine, git gud
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>>173778852
So make him unplayable?
>>
Why is every time somebody posts something like
>board should matter and the game should be more than going face
>stalling until you drop a card that wins you the game
there are always replies that then all the games will last to deck out?
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>>173778761
Don't even begin to pretend that shift had even a fraction of the board control that we're seeing now. It's far more oppressive than shift ever managed.
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>>173778830
People who want to have fun also hate it.
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>>2. Increase his enhance effect by 1PP
>11 pp

What did anonymous poster >>173778852 mean by this?
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>>173778483
>You drop a forbidden ritual or play a calamitous curse and the prince problem is dealt with
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>>173778896

Going face and clear your board or having a ward on curve is unplayable? People would play a vanilla 2/3 ward without any effect on turn 3 so I suggest you going with the second nerf.
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>>173778875
>catacombs are both completely fine
prince is not fine, they nerfed daria and roach before why not nerf silver shadow card to cost shadow for it's effect
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>>173778753
>Implying master means anything
>Oh, look I played dim shift/aegis/shadow/ramp for long enough, am I good yet?
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Can someone post the kys blood list? I've got 3 Belphegors and a Soul Dealer.
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>>173778683
>>173778841
>Prince of Darkness
Who the hell calls Satan Prince of Darkness? I thought for sure you were talking about Prince of Catacombs, the card everyone refers to when they say Prince.
Though it makes more sense in retrospect. But even then, it's far easier to outlast Satan than it is Aegis, by which I mean it's actually possible.
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>>173778864

I agree, but neither is a problem to do with Aegis.
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>>173778914
EVERYONE DROP EVERYTHING I GOT IT

WHAT IF WE TAKE THE DRAGON
AND CUT OFF ITS CARD COUNT CAP
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>>173778942
Not letting the other people have fun is fun though

t.Haven main from standard
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Dragon blast no banishing their own board is just dumb.
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>>173779048
>post mentions Dis yet still thinks it refered to catacomb
>outlast Satan
>not just kill them before they draw 3 Dis and make the game unwinable
Hello mongoloid
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>>173778914
Because aggro retards don't understand that there's a difference between a game where decision making and interaction are actual elements of it and a game where you sit there doing nothing for 40 turns.
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>>173779087
>that one blood win
Why live.
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Aegis is a hard turn count cap on the game. Unlike vs dshift where their anti-control/amulet decks is counterbalanced by its lack of ability to hold a good board down, haven has no trouble battering it retarded meaning you didn't have a board to chip, you didn't regain tempo after the amulet drop if you even tried and even if you did you still can't do anything significant before it starts rope-a-doping you.
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I thought he was talking about Tarnished Grail, the card that is an amulet that can put 3 Dis in your hand.
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And people were also crying for "Mid" Sword to get nerfed, too. And Cygames sort of did that by not giving it any new toys while buffing other classes.
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>I-I'm just as good as those s-stupid master players
Is this what sandbaggers tell themselves?
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Set aside the rhetoric and acknowledge that people could ride even aggro bats to masters purely on the average winrate
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