/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls Genera

FOOLISHNESS

>can't beat twin demon princes at sl25 with +2 weapons
just fucking end me

3RD FOR YRIA IS A FUCKING BITCH

>>173753443
THE KING'S DECREE IS NO TRIFFLING MATTER

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>tfw heavy armor actually does something to protect you now in pvp
YOU CAN'T HURT ME, JACK

>>173753443
>>173753552
MAKE HASTE

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If you're on PS4 please find me the next Raw meme weapon. My Drakeblood gouger was pretty fun, just LOOK at that disgusting lifebar. I'm level 84.

>>173753443
FEEBLE

>try out my Tank build in Arens
>People hit me for 100 dmg

This is the power of 200 flat defense!

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Another PS4fag here
I can confirm that the spin after the L2 of the Ringed Knight Spear lost a LOT of hyper armor.
You're unable to tank a Greatsword now.

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Can someone test if it still has hyperarmor on its WA for me?

So is fire uchi good again?
I want my early level rush to X objective weapon back.

how much stamina do I need to use the door shields effectively?

I think they actually, for real fixed infusions this time.

>Doing fucking great damage with lightning-infused Lothric Greatsword

Feels sexually intense, man

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WE'RE HAVIN A GOOD TIME

HAVIN' A GOOD TIME

>you will never give filly a willy nilly before bed time

;_;

>>173753931

How much poise does your character have? And do you mean the UGS Greatsword or the greatsword weapon class?

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>>173753629
oh good, I was just about to make a sundowner cosplay

>>173754180
44 poise
And I meant greatsword, not UGS.
You were able to tank them easily but not anymore.

>>173753721
dragonslayer's axe

hope you were following sirris' questline

>>173754268

>44 poise and can't tank a greatsword

Jesus Christ that's awful.

I can only imagine how regular charge and other Straight Sword Stance are now.

>>173753954
the patch hasn't landed yet

>>173754185
what weapons would you use besides doors, the red rust sword doesn't exist in this game

>>173753931
fucking good, the silly amount of poise on weapon arts was annoying as fuck

>>173754185

>Somebody else wants to give doors a chance

My amigo

>>173754429
It has on ps4.

>>173754398
tfw we have reached the true ultra weapon hyper armor vs. running poke cancer meta

>>173754501
oh

>>173753485
Tried Dark Hand yet?

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>>173754345
T-the double...
Did they change it at all, or what?

>>173754429
>what weapons would you use besides doors, the red rust sword doesn't exist in this game
was thinking gotthard twinswords, not wholly accurate but you could probably do worse

>>173754108
don't worry, she has been PYGMY'D

>>173754553
Nah I've been using a Flamberge +2. In the second phase it does like 84 damage and it feels like bleed procs once or twice over the fight and ripostes don't come quick enough.
I wish, fucking wish, I could just skip the first phase slog.

>>173754594
absolutely disgusting, disable motion blur before posting more, pls

>>173754594
Damage is silly if raw and Lightning pine'd

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>>173754696
aint nothing wrong with a little motion blur

>>173754096
What SL does this meme come from? I'm around 100 and have never lost a spear invasion. Completely regardless of phantoms.

Not being facetious or anything, literally just curious if it's different at different metas or something.

>use war banner wa glitch with hand maid dagger
>nothing happens
>hit r1
>auto fp regen kicks in

Who the fuck does the testing for these games?

>>173754703
Someone must have partaken in using the Dragonslayer Axe meme. Does anyone on PS4 know what's happened to it?

>>173754926

Still beastly, only raw Drakeblood got hammered, for good reason.

>Dragon head greatshield with a straight sword
>Preseverance on r1 Spam

This is hilarious guys.

>>173753629
Bull shit, I cosplay full Havel and people dance around me makeing me feel like a turtle.

>>173754839
I summon at ~80 and the spears usually lose

you personally havent lost it because youre skilled

>>173754994
sounds easy as shit to work around though

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What was FROMsoft thinking?

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>>173754837

>>173755242
>Implying the jank translations weren't the best
YOU DEFEATED

>>173755242
they were thinking in japanese

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>>173754994
>it gives perseverance
So this is the hidden tech.

>60 int
>60 faith
>caithas chime
>dark blade / Crucifix right hand
>swap left hand to Preachers Arm
>Weapon Art scales with right hand AR
gonna try it

>>173755335
if we combine our forces, we can become stronger

Can someone tell me if pyromancy flame counts as +X weapons for the purpose of trading?

>>173754017
please respond

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As of the latest patch, this is the best build in the game.

Prove me wrong.

>balanced absorption in all fields, the absorption penalty shown here is less severe and now prisoners chain is perfectly good
>crossbow to shit on things
>simple regen parry shield that doesn't leave you to counter damage like caestus and co now do
>Greatsword with best moveset to deal with light weapon shitters
>Longsword to deal with shitters
>bandits knife to dash dagger and autocounter all slow/heavy weapons and lmao2ugs and co


Most importantly

>stays out of a meta faggot range and now all the SL30-40 twinks will invade me and get their shit pushed in

>>173755356
Not only that but it has instant block frames and force push on the WA.

It's heavy and needs 32 str and 15 fth to use though.

>>173754673
the flamberge is really not a good weapon for bleeding bosses, it is too slow
you could try kirk's straight sword or a carthus curved sword

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>In Arena

>VSing a new-ish person using FUGS

>I'm using Carthus milk ring + Gael's sword

>Always avoid all his attacks while getting my combo in

>VS him two more times in a row

>Third time, he quits halfway through and stands still for about a minute

>At the 30 second mark, he unequips his FUGS

>An item drops at his feet

>Pick it up

>It's his FUGS +5

>Desperately try to give it back to him

>Match Over

>Returning to your world

I've never felt so fucking awful playing this game before.

I can't stand to use Gael's anymore.

I'll never be able to return his weapon to him..

>>173755564
I've just read that even without the stat requirements it gives you the Perseverance, you don't need the faith either. It's more dangerous that way, but it's still an option.

>>173753320
Am I the only one who never summons shrek or troll look alike characters or zany looking ones?

I only summon if your character looks nice.

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>Dark Hand Shield would look great with my current cosplay build
>It's a worthless piece of shit that has no real use
I'm so conflicted.

>>173755548
Hot garbage m8

I wish they'd buff the Dark Hand WA, at least against NPCs.

>>173755527
30 endurance with RoFaP+3 gives 150 stamina, which lets you attack 3 times or 2 times and then roll. It also lets you do 2 L2R1s and barely roll after that.

>>173755626
everyone was suggesting flamberge for appealing to the Demon Prince's bleed weakness and potential to stagger
but perhaps I can not keep up the offensive

>>173755548
ill just turn on iframes lmao

>>173755242
DEHUMANIaE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED

>>173755650
It does give you the preseverance but I think it isn't as strong.
Needs some testing.

>>173755659
You're not, no.
I also try to summon more with people with actual names over XxDarkcutterxX, and people with something that looks like an actual NPC name get priority over everything.

>>173755662
It's use is getting around the new weapon memory restrictions, and twinking the fuck out with Nu Prisoner's Chain at SL20~

>>173753485
I did. Pull one into the corner while lapp solos the other. Make sure to keep landing hits on his head when he goes into poison spit mode. You can hug him and he can only melee once and no combo.

Get the laser 2nd phase and stay away from lapp when he charges it so that it doesn't kill him and make sure he aims it away from lapp.

I used gnaw and filli chime for regen. If you have carthus it would probably make it easier.

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>>173755548
>79
fucking retarded

My original DaS3 character ran Vordt's and I heard it received a massive buff. How can you tell when an enemy is frostbitten?

>>173755548
Nah. Best build is now dark(not pyro, get 1-2 spells top) with overbuffed infusions or, if you want to keep true to yours, use Gael's as a straight upgrade to claymore, raw corvian because quickstep still sucks and RKSS since the SS stance nerf makes that one have a slightly better one as it at least can deal damage and have better range even if both can't trade

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>just killed princes
>wonder why greirat hasn't asked to go pillage lothric yet
>turns out I told him to not go pillage earlier for some reason, so send him pillage now
>hour later can't find his ashes on the roof
>thought crosses my mind that maybe I didn't send him pillage because I didn't have siegward rescued at that time
>go to the tranny dungeon in irithyll to confirm
>ashes in the corner

MOTHERFUCKER

I NEEDED THOSE BOLTS

is anyone else sss + lightning blade? this shit is broken

>>173755905
They should have a frost aura/effect around them iirc

>>173755662
I'd sacrifice usefulness for looks and just deal with the handicap. It adds a little more fun, where otherwise you're just playing the same old block-roll-repeat.

You have a dark hand shield now, play around it. Fuck the numbers.

>>173755628
the SALT

>>173755875
Gnaw, eh? How many casts does it take to proc a bleed?

>>173755735
Flamberge is too slow yo. Also the bleed nerf doesn't help. Try a twinblade of some sort. Carthus maybe?

>Up to a total of two "Darkmoon Blades" or "Blue Sentinels" can now be summoned during online multiplayer

>When a white phantom dies during an invasion, the host will now be unable to summon subsequent white phantoms for a certain period of time (this change does not apply to covenant based invasions)

beautiful.

too bad the summoner class shitters will just drop the game now because of this.

also does this mean two blueberries will summon when I invade a solo host? or would there need to be more than one invader?

>>173755932
here, but fuck that I want my drakeblood GS back
straight swords are weapons for shitters

>>173755242
INTRUDING GHOST DECIMATED

>>173756025
flamberge is too slow? wat

Do I need some FP to use the door shields properly?

>>173755628
You've made someone hollow.
Good job
I never managed to before

Can you imagine how amazing it is that you made a guy realise his awful weapon has no reason to exist?

>>173755915
>Gael's as a straight upgrade to claymore
It has far less damage than it especially at that SL.
>raw corvian because quickstep still sucks
Quickstep has never sucked and autocounters everything greatsword and slower
>RKSS

also shit damage at that SL, weapon art poise is greatly nerfed on the RK weapons as of latest patch

>Dark

top kek don't make me laugh, one broken weapon that gets good AR at 120 doesn't matter to me.

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anyone got any blessed/lightning weapons to show off post-patch?

>>173754878
>>auto fp regen kicks in
What?

GUYS

New to DS, only beat 1

Playing 2, just found out I can respec

I want to be a Sun guy and throw lightning spears

How fellas, HOW

>>173756054
Did Drakeblood GS go back to 500-ish AR raw after the patch?

>>173756089
You need 40END as mandatory

>>173756054
>straight swords are weapons for shitters
Not in the hyperarmor meta they're not.

>>173755628
>being so utterly defeated by your opponent that you lay down your special, personal sword at their feat

Jesus that's some real medieval shit right there. You best keep the FUGS and give it an honorable name or some shit.

>>173755628
you should feel bad for using a meme weapon in general

Should I replay DeS or BB tonight

also what sort of run should I do

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>try out full sorcery build
>says to get crystal soul spear
>takes an obscene amount of FP and doesn't seem to do much more than Great Heavy Soul Spear

I don't get it

>twin princes as a pyro
Fucking kill me, aiming a fireball at younger prince is impossible

>>173756104
>>173755548
is it time for me to CE my SL120 80 dex meme build back down to SL80 with an appropriate stat drain to enjoy actually balanced pvp?

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>>173756296
BB

Have fun

>>173756305
that's your pvp spell lad
pve you want great heavy soul arrow, most efficient at damage for its cost

>>173756362
>equip crystal chime
>equip lightning spell

>>173756305

Great Heavy soul arrow is your most efficient spell and honestly all you need for PvE. CSS is just for PvP sniping.

YES
I DID IT
I KILLED THE EDGY BITCH

DIE YURIA DIE
YOUR EDGE IS MINE

>>173756073
For a twink-ass bleed build? Yes.

>>173756212
the only weapons with hyperarmor they have trouble against are greatswords

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>>173756025
I don't know, anon.
The problem is I can't deal with the prolonged fight.
His sudden leaps, where he either throws a fireball, plunge attacks with a fiery explosion, or merely hops to the side and swipes, they all tend to fuck me up. Especially the plunge attack. I never know where or when I should dodge.

>>173756390
ROLLING

>>173755628
This is what Gael's sword does to people
Please stop using Gael's sword
Its pretty antifun
It is THE "dont get hit" weapon

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>Farron's Greatsword
>Is called a greatsword
>but is actually an ultra
>but it has the AR of a greatsword
>but it's an ultra
>but every attack is parryable except for one

>>173756002
Idk maybe 2 or 3. Probably better to use a carthus curved sword with rouge maybe

anyone has the friede orgasming riposte webm?

>>173756104
Here
Gael's has less AR but the combo is capable of one hit kills on many people. The sword has bad AR at all SLs, it's only that every clean r1 is much better than other GS
RKSS barely loses AR compared to longsword. It's also longer
Mostly implortantly, while both WAs are kinda shit now since regular and ember stances have no HA, at least ringed has more range so it retains some use.
Corvian is huge and quickstep is a joke still.

Dark infusions got overbuffed this patch, with small stat spreads of 25/25 you can get huge damage on SS and others.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/171028

>>173756410
Seems like a decent idea, though I only have lightning bolt

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>>173756469
You misunderstood. They can't be a shitter weapon in the hyperarmor meta not because they can't deal with hyperarmor, but because hyperarmor is the more braindead option, and thus more favorable to shitters.

>all these nerfs to pve because invaders are little bitches

Why does From continue to listen to the minority of players?

>>173756142
If you equiped the handmaind's dagger in main hand and the Lothric War banner in off hand and 2handed the lothric war banner while using its WA you would gain a massive attack boost (541 AR) and a huge FP regen.

>>173756390
rollin

Also is there one of these for DeS?

>>173756478
Afraid I can't help you then, man. I actually found his first form to be far harder.

>>173756576
Lightning Stake from Carthus Worm.
If you have a naked weapon, you can use Lightning Blade from Irithyll Dungeon elevator.

As a 30int/30fai pyro should I keep my murky handscythe buffable for dark blade or should I infuse it with dark?

>>173756191
Apparantly it was straight up reversed -100 AR. Which means Sharp does more damage at 515 vs 506 with base stats, two handing for reqs.

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What would a Mike Pence inspired build look like?

>>173756649
I'll practice dodging his second phase on a hardier character. Thanks for the suggestions.

>>173756697
Honestly try out dark.
Heard they overbuffed that infusion with the new Patch.

>>173756305
From decided that magic would, by default, have a high DPS spell in the form of Great Heavy Soul Arrow, but then decided to play the efficiency game and shat all over Sorcerer's later options. CSS only does like 30% more damage that GHSL, costs more than twice as much, and steals all your stamina, but that 30% with all your buffs could possibly 1 shot someone if theyve taken a bit of chip damage.
So thats where the value is. If they dont dodge it, they might just die or lose most of their health. Also it being long ranged.

>>173756719
Well shit, it was really good while it lasted. It wasn't even overpowered because of the short reach and bad split damage if unbuffed.

>>173756771
He would go back to /v/ to find out.

Wow these PvP changes are pretty fucking stupid. From Software is essentially giving me, an invader, a free win.
Guess I'm done with invasions now, what's the point if it's just easy mode?

>>173756612
it was PvEbabbys who cried about how hard the angels were

>>173756771

Uh, a lot of electric stuff I guess

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>>173753320
The meta 120 or 125?

>>173756559
help please i need it for science

>>173756521
I dont know why the naming conventions in Dark Souls are so retarded. The only time its acceptable to call an UGS a Greatsword is if the enemy you got it from wields it as a Greatsword, like Black Knights do. The BKGS is a Greatsword to them, and their sword is a GS to us.
Everything else is retarded. DaS2 tried to remedy this but then Miyazaki took one step backwards for some reason.

>>173756895
real meta is 250

>>173756875
>>173756612
it's the same fucking bait form 5 threads ago

just let it sit there, the raccoons will probably scavenge it after it rots enough

>>173756771
Le angery closet homo man. Ebin my nigra.

>>173756895
130
Only Qualityfags want the meta in that range. Fucking shitters.

>>173756780
In my experience with the second form you just want to hug his legs. His second form and the Demon on Fire form have very similar movesets. Also when he leaps away, makes fire turrets, then starts charging up a huge ball of fire, rush up and start whacking the shit out of him. With enough stamina damage you can knock him down for a critical attack.

>>173756580
nah, R1 mashing with straight swords is still the most braindead thing until Fromsoft fix their hitboxes
but I'm sure they did that on purpose

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>summon cuculus for the old demon king to get cornyx's set
>she spends the first minute of the fight getting hit by the ballista trying to get into the arena
>at the last second she dives into ODK's big explosion attack like a goddamn idiot
>he dies from her poison before i could homeward bone out and try again
i fucking hate you cuculus

>>173756789
this is why int/luck builds are the best way to play with sorceries

>>173756478
Just use the fire resist creas shield. I just sat there ans tanked everything except the grab and explosions.

Like its really easy to just shield up and let him claw rage over you. That's the problem with gnaw. Its hard to land hits on him in 2nd phase and you only get time to cast during the laser.

So, is PUGS WA is dead?
Is ringed straight sword WA is dead?
Is gael gs WA is dead?
Is onikiri WA is dead?

>>173756187
Post tits

>>173756612
>>173756872
Yeah same, ima just go back to das1 pvp or drop souls pvp entirely

>>173756853
The ability to poise through shit was good though. Dragonslayer's Axe might be cool, but it has no poise.

>>173757031
If only buffs would Scale with luck on the man-grub Staff.
Anri's buffed with luck scaling CMW? Sign me up!

>>173756628
Does the daggers fp refen scale off of its damage?

>>173756935
Do you really think Miyazaki is the one that sits around and names every item in the game? Really?

>>173757205
>expecting anything less from the master

>>173757205
Hes probably handpicking which Berserk reference is getting added each game so yea probably.

should i reroll for SL80 pvp when the patch hits?

>>173757170
Let's hope a future patch, if any more happen, buffs a weapon as good when raw.

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>sacrifice myself to try to kill low invader
>has 1 hit left
>host is a dumbass, invader gets away and heals

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>>173757179
Here's a quick rundown.
You gain 2 life when you hit with Handmaid's Dagger. The warbanner buff does 0 damage hits to all friendly targets in an AoE including yourself about every .6 seconds. Each hit triggers any main hand effects that need to hit, but not deal damage to an enemy which means Handmaid's Dagger, Butcher's Knife, and Smough's Hammer. The Dagger gives an additional AR buff for no discernible reason, so it's pretty much the only option as the other two are just 2 health per tick buffs.

Jesus fuck From, fuck these invader advantages they're pushing,
>Invader kills my white phantom
Now the invader only has to fight a 2v1. Wait, I'm not done. He also gets a free estus charge. One more thing, now the host can't summon anyone for five years.
Like, really? I just wanted to enjoy my game but invaders have to come in and ruin everything. I might as well give up if invaders are going to be handed these plethora of advantages on a silver platter.

>>173757356
>being a butt buddy
How does it feel to suck the cocks of men?

>>173757440
(You)

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>>173756991
>R1 mashing with a weapon that has 0 hyperarmor
>ever working against anyone with 2 braincells to rub together
??????

Nigga just equip a greatsword and R1 mash back, like just equip a spear and R1 them for counter damage. Pick up a goddamn shield. Shoot them with anything. Parry, even.

How in the hell did straight swords get the bad rep for being the R1 machine when curved swords have more damage, better speed and better range, and everything else has the hyperarmor or range advantage? Does everyones brains just short-circuit when fighting a weapon class that has barely changed for 4 games now?

>>173756872
I never thought I'd live to see a post like this, ironic or not.
Every fucking waking moment people have complained that 3's invasions are too stacked in favor of the host, and now that there's been something of a change, it's back to complaining again in the opposite direction.
Jesus fucking christ.

>>173757395
>You gain 2 life when you hit with Handmaid's Dagger
I mean 2 Flower Points.

>>173757289
SL80 is officially dead after this patch

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LONG AGO IN A DISTANT CRAG
I, GWYN, GREAT LORD OF SUNLIGHT
FOUND AN UNSPEAKABLE FLAME

BUT A FOOLISH RACE
WIELDING A DARK SOUL
SET FORTH TO OPPOSE MY GODHOOD

BEFORE THE FINAL DRAGON WAS KILLED
I BUILT THE RINGED CITY
AND FLUNG THE PYGMIES INTO THE ABYSS
WHERE MY DAUGHTER IS ASLEEP

NOW THE FOOLS SEEK TO RETURN TO THE WORLD
AND UNDO THE AGE OF FIRE THAT IS GWYNNNNN

What's the deal with that lone tower on that one cliff?

Is that supposed to be the past/illusion version of where the pygmies were chilling?

>>173757440
I really hope you arent copypasting this from Reddit
I really hope people arent this incompetent
Thats a curse

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>>173757440

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>>173756771
here ya go anon

as of latest patch, SSS is a dream for faith

>>173757526
Youre really liking those Jack posts tonight arent you anon

>>173757486
The summoning change was all that was needed.
Seed was fine.

The loudest invaders were the ones that just assumed gankspanks were the norm, now 1v1 is skewed heavily in the invader's favor to the point where I'm just not interested in playing.

From is killing their online playerbase, all that's going to be left is just shitty arena.

>>173757440
>the host has extra health
>the host can have phantoms
>invaders have half their estus
>invaders get pointed out immediately when the little baby host cries for a blue balls phantom

Anon, you're just trash.

How bad's the dark infusion buff looking? Is this the kind of thing where I might need to actually slap on a Dark Stoneplate ring before going into PVP or is it just something that makes hexers closer to viable?

>>173757617
Whats the AR at 12/12/60?

>>173757440
>not just pulling the plug after they kill your phantoms
Fucking bullshit. The PvE in this game is so easy, why do all of these hacking twinks have to make it so hard just to summon another phantom for the boss. Why do I even need to use the Dried Finger to get 3 phantoms anyway?

what do the new summon ranges effectively do?

>>173757680
Dunno since Mugen is shit for the moment, but it's 400 something BEFORE any buffs.

You can buff it with sacred oath and then 60 FAI lightning blade

Yes.

>>173757285
I seriously, seriously doubt the fucking president of FROM is the one that goes around coming up with names for items in one of their games.
There's two other directors for 3, any reason it wouldn't have been one of them? Or literally anyone else that worked on the in-game items?

>>173757440
>>173757687
I'm just going to play offline mode from now on bros

>>173757526
GOTTA GET BACK
BACK TO THE PAST
CHOSEN UNDEAD

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>newest patch is officially moving the SL meta down to 110
>my 6 characters are all SL 125/130

RESPEC WHERE MIYAZAKI? THIS IS BULLSHIT

>>173757648
I don't have issues with seeds because you could lure enemies towards players or use them to make shit even more chaotic.

>>173757797
>>newest patch is officially moving the SL meta down to 110
???

>>173757648
>1v1 is in the invaders favor


>when I have double his estus and then a bunch more natural health

Wow why is life so unfair it's like it's still worse for invaders than DaS was but here I am still a little bitch

>Been running through the Ringed City solo and I can confirm that the game summons two blues (Darkmoon or Sentinels) one after the other totaling two blues for one invader

Fucking lol. Enjoy that Prisoner's Chain I guess.

>>173757837
He's assuming people will just rock the prisoner's chain on every build.

>>173757176
it's be a little too much, considering the amount of mix up potential you already have with man-grub's, anri's, hollow infused weapon of your choice, hollow infused parry shield, aquamarine and whatever spells you want to use.

taking it into duels almost feels cheesy

>>173757837
Read the patch notes. 125+ was taken out back and put down old yeller style.

>>173757758
>>173757687
>>173757440
O L D
L
D

>>173757462
considering im actually gay, it feels pretty good

>got seeded
>drag an entire army of enemies to the host
>seed wears off

HAVIN A GOOD TIME

>>173757821
Exactly, seeds were fine. You could play it in your favor. Now you can't
>>173757648
>From is killing their online playerbase
They obviously waited until TRC was released so that the people who wanted to clear the PvE would clear it and move on, so then they could implement some invasion based patch to increase longevity for the people that linger (pvpers)

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howdy guys! are any of the spears good on a pure str build?

>>173757897
Well, every non caster should

>>173757471
>R1 mashing with a weapon that has 0 hyperarmor
and they are one of the fastest weapon classes, able to roll catch just by mashing
curved swords are almost as bad but at least they need to be 2handed and their hitboxes are not as wonky
>Nigga just equip a greatsword and R1 mash back
that's exactly what I do and guess what? it's not satisfying that my option to beat it are just as brainless

tired of people thinking criticizism = can't beat it
straight swords need their purposefully busted hitboxes for the sake of PvE fixed

>>173757648
Did you never invade 1v1 in a game without any seeds at all?

>>173757952
Hp Vit And str

Smugh fgt

>>173757987
It's still not worth it over level 100.

>>173757996
or just slow them down to be about as fast as 1hand curved swords

>>173757918
In what way

>>173757869
I don't feel THAT bad for invaders because blueberries needed that shit badly.

>>173758032
>3% debuff

Damn right it is, the armor you can get with the vit already pays for that

>People spend a straight year complaining about seeds
>They get nerfed
>People still keep complaining
Can't win.

>>173758159
That's for pve, not for pvp. Nobody could test it for pvp because the server is not up. Reminder that fromsoft does this bullshit of pve and pvp being calculated differently.

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>>173757937
>Get seeded
>Find a bunch of projectile enemies
>Start rolling like a madman between them
>Air is filled with projectiles
>Phantoms get caught in the crossfire

>>173757648
>now 1v1 is skewed heavily in the invader's favor to the point where I'm just not interested in playing
lol fuckoff already

I'm like level 89 without even being past the Cathedral and I'm lonely as fuck.

>>173757526
>not 'WHERE MY DECREE IS LAW'

>>173758181
Because they nerfed seeds in conjunction with other needed nerfs that made the nerf overkill.

I'm whipping you up a grade a patch, my famalams.

Patch 1.14c

-Hosts now have their estus disabled when invaded
-Hosts SL (and stats) is now scaled 50% when invaded
-Hosts have their run speed reduced by 33%
-Hosts iframes have been reduced to compensate for lag.
-Host stamina consumption increased by 200%
-Hosts lose all their souls to the invader if they die.
-Hosts can be interrupted from entering the fog gate
-Hosts' Steam, Microsoft, PSN account are banned for life if they play offline or unplug


What do you think my dudes?

>>173757731
Any news on the Raw ASS?
Wasn't that going to get rebalanced?

Wait, so PChain went from 10% down to 3%? Where's the calculations and screenshots?

If it's true, then my mind is kind of blown. I guess they were trying to make it viable for more than just twinking, but 3% seems a bit low.

>>173758268
>contempt: 0.00001

every time

>>173758358
memes aside I think you should be able to interrupt people entering fog walls

>>173757648
>Seed was fine.
Bloodlust yourself.

>>173758404
i thought you could if you slap them within the first 0.1 seconds of the animation?

>>173758358
Imagine being this mad.

>>173758358
Perfect. Gankers are holocaust deniers and should all gas themselves.

>>173758358
>no "Host now enters instability frames for 5 seconds beginning when they start to consume an Estus Flask"

One fucking job.

>>173756390

Rollo

>>173756643
2nd for DeS

>>173758513

Nope

Dark Souls 2 wins again baby

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Is it worth making Blessed and Simple shields? I like drawing out things out as an invader by healing passively and shit, but how badly does the Blessed/Simple infusions ruin the abilities of lets say, a Lothric Knight Shield?

Pic not really related, just shields to go with my fashion.

>>173758594
I may make one for DeS actually

hope they make a HD version or re release for PS4 soon, might get more use out of it then too

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>all of these tears

>>173758663
if you infuse a shield its block stats go down, importantly your 100% block for physical

but ethereal oak shield has regen natively and is 100% block, so go for that

>>173758404
>>173758534
>>173758568

Perfect, I'll send it to my team in the morning.
Also going to make a new change

-All summoned phantoms return to their world when the host is invaded.

>>173758358
all I can read is "waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh now I have to boot the big meanie invader myself instead of letting mobs do it for me"

>>173758663

It basically makes the stability trash. Don't use a blessed shield if you plan on blocking.

>>173758663
>>173758739
ethereal oak
>100% physical resist
>good stability
>better regen than blessed equipment (on par with a princess sun ring)
Why even bother with blessing a shield?

>>173758739
Ethereal Oak Shield has shit for stability. You're far better off just putting a Blessed Caestus on and two-handing your weapon.

>>173758713
all it took was an entire year and a month of pvpers crying for from to feel bad and cater to them

>>173758763
jokes on you i dont play online

>>173758749
I think that the area should be turned into ng+7 equivalent and the host should be inflicted with forstbite and toxic as well. Then the invader might have a chance

>summoners and suntards crying their faggot tears

you got your just desserts. too bad the game is fucking dead.

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How dumb does this double chain mail skirt look. This getup doesn't look that terrible except for it.

>>173758840
Caestus is a liability for parrying with the new nerf unless you're confident as fuck in your skill.

>>173757696
Way of the blue can now be summoned 5 more levels up and down. That's literally it. Nothing else is changed. The thing that makes the most impact is the weapon level change, and lmao2blu.

So how long is the summoning cooldown anyway? It only occurs when a phantom dies, not when one is summoned, eh?

Any good mods for dark souls 3?

>>173759041
Enjoy your ban

>>173758948
More chainmail = more protection, it's just common sense.

>>173758948
It's only annoying because it's a different type of mail entirely, are there no other leggings you could try?

>>173757996
>straight swords need their purposefully busted hitboxes for the sake of PvE fixed

I dunno if anyone let you in on this secret, but every weapons hitboxes extend pretty far from the actual end of the weapon. That, and anything can be busted in PvE.

Their speed is basically their only upside in the current meta, considering deigning to swing once puts you at the risk of being hyperarmor traded for at least two hits, possibly more, that will range from 60-90% of your health being gone, because that's the option all the shitters have flocked to.

Why does everyone I'm invading at like level 15 in the fucking undead settlement have endgame weapons?

>>173759243
Ask for people to drop weapons for them.

>you will never invade a kindred spirit who doesn't shy from a fight but doesn't turn it into duelshit
>you'll always invade some fallen knight shitter who summons 3 phantoms and is the reason why the fallen knight trousers has the lore that it does

>tfw +10 heavy mace into gold pine bundle perseverance
top kek who knew cheese tasted this good?

>>173759283
I almost always lose invasions but I try to fight as hard as I can. I prefer to ambush invaders though.

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Is farming the 3 Deacons outside of Aldritch's chamber faster dregs than actually doing the PvP thing

>>173759283
You're quite picky.

>>173759365
Just farm 'em while wearing the ring.
Also yes, probably.

>never use katanas before
>decide to make weeb build
>finally get orb, darkdrift, invade in settlement
>realize katanas suck

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Do you guys blame people for cheesing the Midir fight?

I mean come on, it's pretty much a less fair version of the Kalameet fight, and Kalameet was already bullshit

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>>173753320
Guys, i'v got an issue....
The last 3 playthroughs of the game i'v done, I have gone for the lord of hollows ending, after having done it twice before in the past, but something is odd...

Basicaly, I go through the quest line, and even tried beating the last boss with yuria (survived the fight to), but every time, after the last boss dies, the only option the fire gives me is to link it
: / dufuq....

Tried new shit every time but it just will NOT give me the lord of hollows ending. Anyone else had this issue?

>>173759428

Whenever I boss invaded Midir I'd kill the people using Mercury and crystal out.

>>173759428
cheesing how

>>173759425
I've tried to use them and I always die because I don't just resort to spamming a running r1.
It feels like the normal attacks have a shitty arc that never hits anybody, especially with the way rolls work in this game.

>>173759023
Only when a summon dies. I surmise that it's there to prevent hosts from re-summoning their buttbuddies who die to the invader.

If you get invaded and had zero phantoms to start with, then you're good to bring some buddies to the party. So theoretically an invader will have only two phantoms to deal with before gunning for the host, or three if Finger is used.

>>173759212
>I dunno if anyone let you in on this secret, but every weapons hitboxes extend pretty far from the actual end of the weapon.
not anywhere near SSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNCDcrHMVtk
in fact some weapons have too precise hiboxes like valorhart

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i have a choice: play dark souls or masturbate

i only have time to do one

i can't do both because i'll lose my souls and die too much

if i masturbate i'll fall asleep

if i play dark souls i'll get immersed and play till i gotta sleep

>>173759472
What does Mercury do vs Midir that makes it so exceptional? I never understood that

>>173759145
Its tough man. Like, both Silver and Black Knight leggings have probably the best pair of greaves in the whole trilogy. I really like them. Any suggestions?

>>173759425
>darkdrift
if you use the worst katana by a large magin, sure you will have a bad time

>>173759591
a ton of damage?

>>173759591

He's too fucking big so it's easy to get a lot of damage from mercury since his hitbox covers the area of effect

>>173759591
maybe it does % damage, and since his hitbox is huge, he burns for longer

>>173759554
not gonna lie, I'd get a painful erection if I pulled a girl's pants off to be greeted with sunbro panties

>>173759365
Invading for Dregs is usually quicker and more fun than farming. Level might matter but 60-80 gets almost instant action.

>>173759554
shimapan dancer made my dick twitch

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Sitting around in the aldritch zone embered with them fingers popped is a pretty good time. Most people even play nice, too!

>>173759654
is it fucking seriously

god dammit

it took forever to kill the bitch for this thing

i thought it'd be cool to have an invisible sword

>>173759365

Just farm them with the covenant equiped you nignog

>>173759671
Yes, thank you, captain obvious

But WHY does it do tons of damage

>>173759689
>>173759707
That's pretty neat, never thought it'd see use

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friends I spotted Midir trying to be a super sneaky sausage

Why are invaders so shit? When I invade and get a 1v1 the players are good. Now I'm just popping dried fingers and enjoying the steady stream of shitters.

>>173759809
do what's cool

"worst weapon" or "bad weapon" are only classified as such if there's like a 20 AR differnce

>>173759428
You talking about the mercury cheese? I'mm out of the loop

>Couldn't do it anyway since I have 7 INT

>>173759809
use a sharp uchi or the frayed blade, or a sharp washing pole if your standards are super-low

Holy fucking shit that was great, so I was in the painted world making some sun bro medals outside the sister friede fight, when I get invaded. I notice the invader outside the chapel and I'm about to get fight him, but he starts running across the bridge. So I try to cut the bridge out from under him but he makes it across in time. So now he is stranded halfway across the dlc so I figure he will just leave. But no, he starts going the long way around, taking the slide to the Corvian settlement. So I wait till he is well on his way, then pop a giant seed, and watch his health bar take hits far away from me until he dies. That shit was funny

>>173759608
It's hard to make that decision without testing it myself, given that

Perhaps try Black Iron leggings? Might be too dark.

Lorian's is my personal goto, because apparently the blue skirt thing mixes well with everything.

>>173759824
>that floating tower is just midir's house

>>173759769
>>173759867
>clear out forest
>pop a finger
>gore for days
Good times.

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>>173759447
lets see
>:/
>dufuq
>...
and the worst sin of all:
>Starting Deprived
Fuck off, please.

>>173759867

Invaders are pretty bad in general, if you invade organized gank teams in Pontiff you can see firsthand their stupidity. Half of them just run into the ultra weapon blender without even waiting for backup.

>>173759917
well done

>MIDIR IS SO CHEAP I KEEP DYING REEEEE
>I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO DODGE THIS GAEL ATTACK REEEEEE
>DEMON PRINCE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Git gud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QfNzc_pEvk

>>173759547
Phantom range varies based on latency, I've had swings that physically clip through people completely whiff, and I've been tagged from miles away by daggers. It'd be a more conclusive test in latency-free conditions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6qa7aptE1Q

>>173759958
As soon as I said that every invader is now just auto jumping me, neat.Ah well, it was fun for a bit.

>>173757648
Yeah I honestly see no reason to ever use dried finger now. Even when I'm alone invaders just usually gang up on me and when I do get a darkmoon they usually die quickly and I get 2v1 or 3v1.

I won't be doing any pvp as a host now. Only as an invader or arenas/fcs.

>>173759887
>20 AR differnce
lol
more like 70 with the chaos blade and almost 100 with the frayed blade on a min STR and 40 DEX
on top of that it has a shitty WA

>>173760009
Midir is the only real fuckhead of the DLC bosses (excluding Halflight, a pure wildcard).

Gael's cape can be a cunt though.
And if you're super unlucky with the demon's you can get oneshotted by a fireball/laser, or toxic'd to hell and back.

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>>173759715
>>173759754
it's one of the few sfw lewd souls images i have

i love pantsu but my favorite is preg and cumflation with the occasional birthing

but souls lewds severely lacks in those regards

>>173759769
>all that blood

Holy shit, praise the berserker

Prepare anuses, SSS can be buffed to 600 + damage post patch

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>time for champ
>try to parry him with knight shield
>only get 1/4 parries
>trying different timings, but nothing seems to work
>switch to fist weapon offhand
>hit 100% parries

I don't care if they nerf fist weapon parries, they still are so much better than the other options for parrying

>>173760083
they're not moving around, the target is immobile
a lagless test would add nothing, from purposefully made the hitbox a foot longer than what it should be

>>173760205
>>173759554
don't lewd the dancer

>>173759824

Why is Midir so cute?

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>>173760401
i'm still faced with the souls or masturbate conundrum

>>173760205
Why is there goo in her underwear???

>>173760350
Watch the video, at one point he straight up jogs away from a Dark Sword R1, which was the longest SS by a large margin, it probably still is even though they nerfed its range.

The hitbox is not magically twice as big just because its a straight sword.

How do you git gud at PvP?

I'm getting hit from like 2 miles away and I don't know what to do about it

>>173760617
>I'm getting hit from like 2 miles away
Try getting a better connection. Either that or stop playing with shitters outside your country.

>>173756390
late arrival

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>>173760576
It's the female equivalent of a murderboner.

>>173757440
You know there's going to be a shit ton more blues this patch right?

>>173759959
not that anon, but what's wrong with starting deprived?

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>>173760576
when girls get happy their downstairs gets all gooey so that a peepee can easily slide right in there

god i fucking hate that first pontiff knight in the basement of the giant tower

every new playthrough he gets me at least twice

>>173760765
that's the joke

>>173759824
So why is that tower there?

>>173756983
>>173757064
Fuuuck I just fucking did it.
I went in same as usual, with the flamberge and no summons since I don't want the inflated HP.
This time though, I locked on to the second phase and I had a lot better of a time dodging the attacks. Jesus Christ.
I gotta admit though, the last few minutes of the fight I got two messages rated up. The first one was at about 75% health but the second was around 50%. I ended with 2 estus left, so I dunno if they were key to my victory. Still, fuck these god damn bats.

>>173760614
means fuckall, not even the longest spears would have hit him at the distance he was

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Guys where do I go after midir?
Can't go through the church because covenant and I don't see a path anywhere else

By the way, is there a reason why I'm not getting summoned to the church fight? Is lvl 96 too low? Or did everybody else quit playing the game?

>>173759924
After some testing I decided to go with Alva's. Might change that soon though. Such a shame that Exile's are way too fucking huge. They could look great with normal sizing but otherwise you can't work with them.

Are there any changes to the weapon memory system or only to SL matchmaking?

>>173760791
>the outrider gets you
>ever
just fucking open the door and walk to the bonfire.
He's stuck way before the doors opening.

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Prisoner's Chain is actually fucking useful for STR/FAI builds.

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>Oh boy I get to be a blue

No, the waits are still forever.

>>173760617
Phantom range is scary, trying to understand how netcode works might help. To put it simple: it's against you when you're backpedaling.
Some weapons are not giving accurate visual representations to their hitboxes. I was trying outrange ledo's r1 once, it went awful. Never again.

>>173760884
Why didn't you summon lapp lol? He can solo one of the demons while you kill the other

>>173757440
>not being able to kill reds solo
Do you, like, call your mom every time you have to take a shit?

>>173760894
The church, dumbass.

Spears get slow summons because of low supply of people fighting the boss at any given time vs the large number of spears waiting.

>>173760932
>not killing everything

>>173761192
I've tried a couple times but I felt I wasn't making a good enough dent in the second phase to justify him. Very convenient for the first phase, though.

>>173757504
why's that

How do you even cheese Midir with Pestilent Mercury? He moves around too damn much.

>>173761220
Will I still be able to invade using the covenant if I enter the church?
The guy on the door told me to fuck off

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>>173757440
don't even care if it's pasta, this made me smile, thanks anon.

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>>173760883
Because one of From's artists drew a lovely picture

>Filianore's Rest is one of the coolest looking areas in the game aesthetically.
>It's basically just a glorified boss room instead of a whole actual area for PvE/PvP
>No invasions/duels to be had in a neat apocalyptic desert wasteland of ash

>>173757440
Nice try, but people this retarded dont make it past the third trimester of pregnancy.

>>173761274
you don't fight him like a coward and stay in front of him so you can bait his melee attacks

>>173761291
>listening to any lowly NPC in a souls game
Show that door whose boss and OPEN IT THE FUCK UP

>>173761265
>implying I don't just turn around and fuck his shit in
Why would you ever skip the original best frost weapon in the game?
Also
>killing everything as a sorcerer
Just HB my man, it's not like you need the souls or most items.

>>173761291
You piss of Shira if you go past the church boss, feel free to do the church boss though

Is it still so that if you aren't wearing anything in one armor slot, you get mega punished for it?

>>173759824
I wonder what happens if you try to hit him with an arrow.

>>173761220
>because of low supply of people fighting the boss
I keep killing spears, about 7 ornaments away from second rank reward. It takes more time to go to monument and back than to kill a spearbabby, maybe if it were easier to reset the boss it'd be better with summons.

>>173761368
>>173761492
Thanks friends

Is Dark the new Refined?

Is SL80 still a meme or is SL120 too full of retards to bother

>>173761592

What is this Dark meme? I hear Dark scaling is the same as before.

>>173761617
I've been running SL75 since release. It's not a meme.

>>173761670
It's new weapons: murky hand scythe and crucifix, not the scaling or dw miralce buff.