Dota 2 General - /d2g/

Guy don't look at the tooltip for the Alacrity change - Icefrog has actually gone too far.

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>dota 2

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this is the real last /d2g/ thread, we are officially ded after this

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it is a dead thread
for a dead game
populated by people who are dead inside

cs:go and smash are goodesports to dota's badesport

>http://www.dota2.com/news/updates/
Why is the update repeated like 100 times? Is Valve drunk?

>>173543942
>smash
Might as well play competitive mario party

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7th for Sheever

I wanted to watch some quality NA dota but anee and zyori are still living human beings in this planet.

Why?

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SHRINES AND TALENTS SUCK

FUCK YOU VALVE

FUCK YOU ICEFROG

YOU KILLED DOTA

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>7.03 happens
>wtf icefrog dominator is worst item in the game now
>"hold my shit up"
why would you even buy midas now
"lmao i will waste 2k gold to get like 50 gpm and 40 xpm"
and you retards sperg about invoker not being nerfed
literally the only hero that should buy it now is phoenix

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BUFF ME

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ppl treat me like an idiot for picking spectre, even report me.. thank god for alt game modes

Quelling Blade: Bonus damage no longer stacks with Iron Talon


oh come on valve

>>173544495
you probably deserve it

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STOP PICKING EARTH SPIRIT

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>>173544073
new EUhub when?

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>>173544713
AND MONKEY FAGGOT TOO

>it's another buff zeus patch

just fuck off with this midget already

* Tiny: Base damage increased by 3
* Tiny: Level 15 Talent increased from +35 Movement Speed to +40

WE
VIABLE
NOW

WHO SETTLING QUARRIES HERE

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>2013
>all my friends were playing having fun

>2017
>I'm the only one left

why am I still here?

>>173544010
seriously does nobody else see this

>>173545186
still doesn't fix his shit armor and inability to farm

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>Pugna: Base movement speed increased from 330 to 335
Wow golly-gee-willikers the total madman, this will bring him into the meta for sure

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>remove Tranq armor
>increase active movespeed by 5, and disabled move speed by 10
>also 75 more gold

Th-thanks...

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what did sheever mean by this?

>Quelling Blade: Bonus damage no longer stacks with Iron Talon

IceFrog never lets us have fun :(

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>>173545438
woah
I might seriously jerk off to this later.

>>173545291
just buy arcanes sweetie

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>>173544221
honestly this

>shrines
>wow let's all deathball 5man at 4 minutes every game or else we get fucked by the other team doing the same exact thing because if anyone is alone for a split second they die even at their T3s from the deathball, because we get free AoE regen runes in the middle of the map and get the stamina to literally never stop 5manning LOL

>talents
>level 10: free 500-1k in items
>level 15: free 2k item OR cooldown reduction/spell amp
>level 20: free 4k item OR +2s stun time or something like that
>level 25: "10x spell damage, OR ult is global"

this shit is literally autistic

reveal yourself frost toad you fucking hack

>>173545438
her shirt barely covers more than the bra
what did you mean by this post?

>>173545281
your friends got jobs and families and don't have time for games now
also you need some special kind of autism to play the same game for four years

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>>173543942

>>173545754
even people with jobs should have time to play do@
it's the conversion to being normalfags that comes with it that's the true culprit

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Who could stop him?

>>173544221
Also the stacking timing

Reminder only people that plays the game should have an opinion about the new patch and not tourney shitters who think they know anything

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what went wrong

>>173546054
ralents and shrines

>>173545281
only been playing dota last year and i think i'm gonna end up as you anon

>>173546054
...nothing?

>>173546052
only the 100top mmr players in the world should have an opinion t b h

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>>173545915
this guy probably
unfortunately VP lost DAC qualifiers to ddos so we have to wait for two weeks until kiev to see if he can do it

>>173545281
>>2013
>all my friends were playing having fun
>>2017
>all my friends are playing having fun
feels good

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>>173545320
you'd probably think he's not viable even if he had 700 base movespeed

you may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>empire twitter guy greentexting
uh...

>>173546404
700 movespeed no
at 1000 movespeed he'd be a decent splitpusher.

I want NP to be good again

>>173545320
Other heroes got nerfed.

>>173546430
reddit has been doing that for a long time now

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>>173546430
>muh sekrit club arrows

>OD gains 1% extra spell damage every 3 Auto attack with Arcane orb

>splitpushes like a motherfucker
>can solo rosh by 10 minutes
>wins any 1v1 fight
>strong mid and lategame
is troll the ultimate mmr grinder now?

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>Death Prophet: Strength gain increased from 1.9 to 2.3
please pick her guys
please

>>173546836
it's fucking nothing

>>173546959
No empire guy

Did Dota ever have a song that got people hyped during esports? SC2 had Roar and LoL has Silver Scrapes.

>>173546959
3.5 second CD nuke is nice

>>173546959
>aka6 DP art gets released
>DP gets buffed by icefrog same day
really make you think

>>173547024
we are electric

>>173546959
no
your talents are still terrible
i don't there is any her with worse ones

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>>173547007
lmafo I didn't even see it

>>173546882

if they have high magic damge your fucked , also you his magic resistance is crap

are you fucking kidding me
3rd game I get put on the same team as a feeder dunce
fuck you account boosting russian niggers

>>173547205
>also you his magic resistance is crap
Like...most heroes?

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>>173547024
>SC2 had Roar

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Reposting.

>>173547550

True that

what hero do you play when you feel like pissing yourself

>>173548762
morphling

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>10 games
>all 0/20/0 losses
>last played 3 years ago
>instalocks anti mage
>ranked

>>173545535
Holy shit
Are you 12?

>>173549856
>Not wanting to sex the Sheever
Are you?

>queue for ranked
>queue pops
>looking at the hero select screen trying to decide what to pick
>none of the heroes seem fun
>dota in general just doesn't seem fun anymore
>i'm the last person to pick
>team is telling me to pick a carry
>abandon instead

>>173550128
without bra they're probably saggy and 3/10 at best.

>>173550350
get in the game shinji

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was there a single fucking person complaining about tranquil boots armor

>7.05

>power treads stat bonus from 9 to 10
>int to get 1% spell amp from 16 to 15

wtf osfrog are you fucking drunk

>>173551616
axe and cent can get fucked

>>173551793
REEEEE
FUCK OFF WITH SPELL AMP LEAGUE DOGSHIT
HOW LONG TILL AP ON SKILLS HUH FUCKERS

>>173552054
>hitting every support or non broken hero that built that item commonly like phoenix just to nerf centaur and axe again

there's no way icefrog is in charge of these notes

>>173552117
wats ap

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>>173552165
>mfw the only tranqs buyer I play is visage and this keeps him sleeper OP for another patch

>>173552117

>implying spell amp isnt more cancerous than ability power

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>>173552165

>inb4 icefrog is dead and valve is having clan_iraq and chi long qua balance the game

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>>173552447
that hero literally has negative armor and now you have even less

rofl

>>173552538
It's exactly the same thing, a stat that increasing the damage of your skills, only thing that's different is dotas are percent based and leagues are flat additions.

>>173552407
ability power
league of legends some items give ability power
and spells use 10-100% of that value as added damage

Viper players rejoice.

Zero mobility, zero relevance all game, but once you hit level 25, you get 20 armour.
The hero is totally fixed now.

>>173553332
>every hero has to be the same
>>>/vg/lolg

>Alchemist: Chemical Rage cooldown increased from 45 to 55

Is alchemist the worst hero in the game again?

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Barny streaming get in here lads.

P M A

M

A

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>even smash gets way more viewers than dota
>the fat jew is already using it as a backup

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>>173553684
>barneyy giving up on his CLQ persona

multi bracer battle arena

>>173554204
no more aquilas? bracers now?

>>173553585
>pick alch in solo ranked
>teammate picks legion
>other picks shit offlaner
>both farm the jungle
>lose because can't farm with alch
alch is the biggest ooga booga hero in the game, this will hopefully make people not pick him

>>173554204
>multi bracer
>not multi treads

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>>173545438
I heard if EE ever wins anything ever again Sheever will show tits.

: ^ )

>>173553585
He has 16.25 seconds of downtime now on it with Octarine which means you MAY be able to actually kill him at some point.

>>173555421
should have just let it die

˙͜M˙

I'm so tired of people complaining about Peruvians ruining the game. First off, yes they have bad internet and computers. So what? If they lose the connection just pause it. If they feed or spam, take the opportunity to try and help him mature. These people live in poverty, they need our help, not our disdain. I had a Peruvian named HapJak on my team, and he died 5 times in the first 10 minutes. Did I freak out? No, I talked to him. I trained with him. I wired him money to help with his bills and family. A friendship formed. Now he is 6k MMR. I was invited to his village for his birthday, which was a great time. I ended up being intimate with a beautiful Peruvian woman. Be helpful, it pays off.

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>>173555579

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Reminder girls with short hair can be cute too.

Tattoos not. Fuck Soe.

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more terrorblade picks, just one word for that hombres

nice

>>173555918
dyke hair only works well in taiwanese finger painting shows, retard

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>>173556008
how is it nice that more people are picking my husbando

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What if there was a bug-based hero with a suicide explosion spell?
The hero should also use a rolling movement style.

>>173556173
>d2g knows about randy savage's hilarious promos made on dares to use random objects
maybe i've misjudged you all

perhaps the cream does indeed... rise to the top

>>173556654
on balance off balance, doesn't matter I'm better than you yeah

>>173553684
Is that CLQ?

>>173556786
>dota
>ever on balance

>>173553684
You FUCKIGN LIAR

>>173556872
twitch videogame_broadcaster

>>173556789
>>173553889
What?

>>173556931
I dunno, I asked because of the bluefrog poster.

>>173556931
is this a god damn dream
i can barely even be sure its really him because it has been so long

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>buff tiny
>didn't fix his textures

reeeeeeeeeee

>Magnus: Level 20 Talent reduced from +15% Empower Damage/Cleave to +10%

Just get ride of the stupid fucking empower talent altogether. Literally GoodVoid, GoodSven, GoodMeleeCarry with it RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>173557008
CLQ is barrneyy's alias

>>173557113
>Valve
>fixing
tip top kek

how come pets weren't expanded upon?

>>173557215
too much effort to jew people with, easier to just release more jugg hats

>>173557110
He's been streaming semi-regularly on that account recently.
Been on draskyl stream as well.

>>173557113
quarry remains unsettled

>>173556931
the last time barny streamed i climbed to 4k
i am ready to ascend to 5k

>>173557620

What is the secret for 4k->5k?

I swear I have never seen so much intentional feeding, tilting, etc. of my own teammates. It feels like its a crap shoot of who has less raging retards

Wait, is this really Barnyyy? Am I getting rused?

>>173558478
it's BSJ actually

>>173557776
It is, good luck anon

>>173557776
That's because 4k is where all the boosted kiddos are

why do shitty moonduck casters have to talk about how much they hate trump when casting a fucking dota game?

>>173559256
no one in real life will listen to their pathetic whining

>>173556654
oh yeahhhhh brother lemme tell ya

>>173559256

theyre virtue signalling to try and get some media jew to hire them so that their resume doesnt only consist of 'dota 2 sportscaster'

>>173559256
they can't actually be doing that

Icefag I know you are here make shrines heal mana only, reduce AoE hero kill bounties and increase jungle creep gold bounties you fuck.

Icefag I know you are here make shrines heal mana only, reduce hero kill AoE bounties and increase jungle creep gold bounties you dumb fuck.

Icefag I know you are here delet dota

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how is phoenix off lane right now

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b-bls link doto hentai

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>>173560675
>>>/aco/1277697

>>173560890

>236 images

holy fucking shit boys

>>173560890
venge is criminally underrated gril

>>173560890
whats happening in that pic? is she ok?

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>>173561531
can't eat her go-gurt properly

>>173561632
it's just yogurt in a tube

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>>173561765
that's not a problem is it?

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>>173555918
I would love to fuck Soe but only if we were married.

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>the thread was abandoned to look at dota 2 porn

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>Only 59 active IPs
Where have all the dotards gone...

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>>173564656

im glad i never have to see that retarded monkey in pro games

>>173565161
>still a strong early roamer
>his ult still fucks shit up with just a basher

MK has not been nerfed into uselessness.

Only thing that kind of hurts him is the -0.4 second stun duration on his Q.

How do I play brewmaster

>>173566906
get invoker on your team and smash buildings

>Treant speed reduced by 5


>First ulit is no longer 70 but 100 sec cooldown

>not you can just sit and cry watching your teammates die while youre invisible and cant do a goddamn thing

My spam treant support days in SEA are over

>no arcs buff
im sad and wanna die

>>173567460
Not only can't he initiate using his ulti but he needs agha in order to be "useful"at the game. Which he cant buy in about early to mid game cause he's support duh

>>173556310
Ram'Maw?

>no jugg nerfs

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>End a game with over 20 kills and less deaths than fingers on my left hand
>Still can't get this fucking challenge three starred
This shit is IMPOSSIBLE. LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
FUCK I'm upset I hate playing Zeus so fucking MUCH.

>Still playing Dota 2 after the Post-TI3 patch that killed Strategy

Hopeless adicts

>>173568935
what happened back then

>Treant nerfed again

fucking why?

>>173569067
every hero gets nerfed on getting put into captain's mode

>>173568481
Buying aether lense octarine helped for that quest a lot. i cant do the interupt 6 channeled spells quest in that tree, had it for like 50 games now.

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How do I escape 2k? Also, what heroes aren't food for Ursa?

>>173564663
>no esports on
why even bother posting

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>>173569780
>solar crest
>drums
>dust for no reason

So many shitty items. Just get a ghost scepter, or even a eul's for when Ursa uses his ult.

>>173570084
>ghost scepter
>vs diffusal

Why does lycan always get buffed but nobody seems ro use him more often

does anyone have the draskyll futa webm

>>173569026
A team dumpstered everyone in the pro scene including cucking the chinese out of their prized gleague because they understood how to utilize map and lane control to it's highest potential using skilled players like bulldog
then the team got a direct nerf
most obvious kneecap I've ever seen

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>>173571126
only pics

>>173571324
>exploiting a cheap strategy
>doesn't deserve a nerf
If they were actually good they would still be relevant today.

>>173571476
If it's so cheap why did every team besides anvi who pick wisp+ ck or np fail to beat them with those hero's then? Oh right because they understood how to utilize them to the fullest potential and the other teams didn't
barely any of those chinese or NA shits did the insane jungle/lane disruption bulldog did with his treants, and none of them as well

why doesnt void's aghs make his teammates able to move in chrono?

>>173571614
Probably because they spent all their time practicing other non-cheap strategies and couldn't emulate alliance on the spot? Again, alliance just exploited a cheap strategy they stumbled upon and the moment it was nerfed they became a 3rd rate team, because they are not actually skilled.

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>balancing heroes through talents
>talents are actually XP per minute, Respawn Timer, Gold Per Minute and other things that should be global constants

is this the lowest point Dota has ever reached?

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Hey Guys, I've thought of a great idea to improve Dota 2

Basically it's a new hero customization system called "Talent Cards"

You can now customize the Talent Trees of each of your heroes by using these cards

HOW TO GET THEM:

- Talent Cards are bought in packs containing 4 cards; 3 common cards, and 1 rare card

- Common cards will be more of generic bonuses that apply to all heroes, like increase movespeed, damage, gold per minute, xp per minute, etc...

- Rare cards will be more skill-specific bonuses like +30 Fissure damage, +2 Meepo Clones, +5 hits Living Armor, etc...

- Some generic bonuses will be rare, some skill-specific bonuses will be common, depending on balance


HOW TO USE THEM: (PIC RELATED)

- To customize a hero's Talent tree, simply go to the "HEROES" tab in your Dota menu, select the hero you want to customize, then click on the new "TALENTS" button next to LOADOUT

- Just scroll through your list of Talent Cards you own for the hero and they display the text and level requirement of the talent

- Select the card you want to equip and click-drag it into one of the two slots of its required level

- During future games, the talent in that slot of the tree will now have the effect of the equipped card


HOW IT IMPROVES DOTA 2:

- All players can now customize the Talent Trees of ALL or their favorite heroes to tailor them to their playstyle

- Do you want to play a Bloodseeker that moves superfast even when your opponents are at full HP? Do you want to play a fighting Anti-mage that blinks every 2 seconds and Burns the mana of all enemies in the AOE? Yes you can!

- The possibilities of custom talent builds are only limited by your skill and imagination!

- This is not P2W. All Talent Cards are designed to still be on par with the default talents of each level. It just adds more fun options for players that want to try new playstyles for their heroes!

I am 100% confident that this new feature will add hours and hours of enjoyment to Dota 2.

>>173571857
yeah we should remove midas, bloodstone and alchemist
>>>reddit

>>173571934
>making the worst mechanic ever introduced into Dota even worse

>>173571819
Except everyone knew that wisp+ck and np was alliances deal from gleague heading into TI3
face it navishitter, your trash teams failed to adapt and got outplayed
bulldog received a permanant kneecap to his best hero likely because icefag is a muslim sandnigger who got triggered by his antimuslim stance

>>173571934
>Talent Cards are bought
neck yourself

>>173572007
>your trash teams failed to adapt
This is rich coming from an alliancuck. It was a cheap optimal strategy which if left alone would force everyone to play that one exact strat if they wanted to win, so it was rightfully nerfed. Actually good teams can adapt to new patches and continue winning. Deal with it nerd.

>>173572247
>Actually good team can adapt to league of legends changes that reduce the tactical skill and make things more reliant on split second decisions rather than a combination of both
Yeah, because it favors braindead hero brawler meta's like this one that you enjoy so much

>>173572353
The current meta isn't perfect but at least there's more than 1 viable strat and no 'optimal strat', which is more than I can say for TI3 rat meta. It's not even like we're never going to have patches which change the meta ever again so I don't know why you're so whiny.

>>173572353
I have seriously, and I mean seriously, -never- seen anyone say or type that they enjoy this meta that we are in.

>>173572474
lmao you just keep ignoring reality
how did alliance beat teams that picked wisp + ck and banned np if there is only one viable strat? Right because puck S4, because lonedruid bulldog
The other teams got outplayed and outstratted, that's all it comes down too, and that's why TI3 was the best, because it was a combination of both elements not just
>WHO CAN TEAMFIGHT ULTI FIRST
>WHO'S SHRINE ARE YOU FIGHTING AT

>>173571934
Good idea anon, what I think is missing is a Legendary card for every hero (maybe even 2), that will give super cool strong upgrades like giving AM bash with Manadrain or Undying steal Strength and Int etc. (These are just my suggestions, I think Icefrog can come up with SUPER cool and strong legendary card ideas).

The legendary cards must have a very low % drop like maybe 5% or so, so that if you get a legendary you can main that hero that would be so fucking awesome and the moment you get the legendary for your favourite hero (Sven for me) it'll be super epic.

What do you think?

>>173572674
Why can't alliance just outplay and outstrat everyone again in the current patch? Oh right it's because they were only good at exploiting a cheap strategy and now literally can't do anything since it got nerfed. Cry more swedecuck.

>>173572674
>SHRINE
is the most stupid thing in this patch

>>173572878
assblasted navishitter lmao
alliance is still more relevant than dumpster diving slavs

>>173572882
shrines and talents are the dumbest thing ever added to dota ever in history

>https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status/851099116377710593
Oh look, what a surprise, the game is dying after 7.00

>>173572969
>if you rightfully call alliance out as a has-been dumpster team you must be a supporter of another has-been team
?????

>>173573017

If you think the balance updates are killing the game you are wrong. It is 100% the fact that the community is worthless garbage and toxic, and valve refuses to even acknowledge it

>>173572882
LMAO

>>173573202
>shrine and talents
>balance update
choose one. it didnt balance anything, it cheapened the game and made it soulless

>>173572814
My system is not P2W

>>173573360
>Paying to mechanically change the game

This seems like a good fit for dota

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>Invoker: Base strength reduced by 1

>>173573521
Nothing changes mechanically, the talent system still works the same way ingame, you're just customizing your talent tree

>>173573202
No, as much as I hate the peruvians, the community actually gives dota a charm that is unlike any other game. It's not the community that is killing this shit game, because the community was always like this and the game has been constantly growing since 5 fucking years (dota2) already.

The 7.00 patch destroyed the game, it is no fucking fun anymore, watching it is slowly becoming shit and the continued shit balance of "one hero is OP xD I guess you must deal with it until the next patch with the next OP hero comes" is killing this game every day. The whites have left the game, the biggest region nowadays is SEA (there are old graphs that show this), and the entire US servers are filled with Peruvians. The game is fucking dead, all that is left is poor peruvians, russians and seamonkeys that have no money to buy shit. That's why Valve is trying to just leech as much money as possible with every jewpendium. Just look at the cosmetic items, it's a fucking joke nowadays, they told us that they would respect the lore and glance value when releasing items but the shit that we get nowadays is 10 times worse than fucking alpine ursa. I wouldn't even care about skins if they would go all out on it and release bikini skins and genderbender skins, because at least that can be fun, but this whole trying to be serious while shitting up every hero with gold and other shit colours that don't fit is fucking pathetic.

>>173573006
I think the worst part of having icefrog has your head dev is that he never undoes bad changes, he just modifies them so we are now stuck with shrines and talents forever.

>>173573698
>Paying to mechanically change the game

This seems like a good fit for dota

>7.06
>Map changed back
>Runes changed back
>Talents removed
Would you play the game again?

>>173573292

shrine and map routes and the jungle fucked up the game hard (as in no more fun to play, we had no reason to change the fucking map like this, only a small fix to offlane and dire's roshan).

talents concept is ok, but will take a lot of time until they get realy balanced. but imo they should all be based to influence the hero skills somehow, and all artificial shit (like -respawn, gpm, xpm and etc) should go, lol. I want the option to pick a talent that increases my skill aoe or lower cd, a talent that reduces X skill manacost in favor of a longer cooldown, a talent that upgrades my passive skill to be a burneable cooldown (like baras aura) for a boost at the cost of losing it if it's on cd, another talent that improves my casting point at the cost of shorter range and etc. And the option to pick stats (because talents have drawbacks).

but the changes on the map holy fucking shit, it's like someone come in with and whitep ain and change the lines of a football field and created a special safespace for people to rest and be immune to hit. Also, the goal now is 25% blocked by a giant net

>>173574205
Seriously, what the fuck was the thought process behind shrines?
>I'm Icefrog I'm so quirky pls notice my game XD

>>173574341
there was no thought process, it was just done to "shake things up" even though the game didn't need shaking up. It needed matchmaking fixed.

>>173573017
>>173573202

the game was dying before 7.00, thats why the changes were so drastic and all those League of legends changes went into the game to get normies to play.

Seriously, shrines and the awful talent system have ruined the game beyond recovery. There is no way they can stop the decline after this magnitude of a fuckup.

>>173574118
>I don't know what gameplay mechanics mean

>>173574151

I would even buy a fucking compendium

>>173573794
what you mean by "whites"? NA is a 35% nigger/25% spic nigger region.

Game is doing 'ok' in Europe. Yes it's getting bigger at SEA, but that's because the game is a "new" sensation in that godforsaken land.

DotA was always weak at the NA. NA people is too weak for games like this, their prefer CoD, LoL and etc.

Valve people know this and besides NA players being the most addicted cattle that buy stuff they will never use, if the game is being beaten down by any other rival there's no need to focus on this shit anymore. If CS was totally dead... maybe they would care about NA dota again but... CS is doing well and is their best chance to grab that NA market by the pussy again. You should thanks peruvians for filling your queue.

>>173574682
>Yes it's getting bigger at SEA, but that's because the game is a "new" sensation in that godforsaken land.

???

Dota has been around forever in SEA

ignorant noob

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only good thing about shrines is that they're pretty decent hotspots for mine traps

>>173574341
They make games longer by giving teams more access points to defend objectives and find engagements.
Stomps are always going to be short, but have you guys noticed how fucking long even games have become?

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>Valve is killing Dota, the NEETs only reason for living
So when is the news story going to break about a massacre at Valve headquarters?

>>173574682
If CS dies people will play CoD or Overwatch. Jumping genres when you've invested so much time into a particular set of skills doesn't happen.
The only people who will jump to Dota are the ones who've spent an ample amount of time in both games.

>>173574574
>Pay money
>Get to do something in game people who didn't pay money can't do.


This seems like a good fit for dota

>>173574973
I will be the first to lead the charge

>>173574973
Some of you guys are alright, don't come to Valve headquarters this tuesday

>>173575029
>Pick hero
>Get to do something ingame people can't do at all because a hero can only be picked once

You're a retard who doesn't have a coherent argument at all

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This is bullshit, you never have any reports when you need them.

>>173575267
stop wasting them on dumb shit then

>>173574341

People asked for regeneration. The nigger can't buy another salve/tango/clarity so they asked icefrog: hey froggo, I don't like to walk to my base after being harassed. toad killed suicide to neutrals (and that was a good thing) and people went mad. So he went to the bathroom to take a shit and got this idea to speed up regeneration. harassing people out of the lane is now severely nerfed. At first it was good for the offlane (it was basically inexistent) but he had so many options to fix the offlane.

but okay, one for the offlane is acceptable.

BUT THEN THE FUCKING AMPHIBIAN PUT ONE FOR THE MID (AFTERALL MID IS NOW A CANCEROUS RICING LANE XD), put rune rng back again (A big stepback from the double rune) and well. it didn't stop. the madman finished by prologating every game to +10 minutes by giving the ability for people to teleport at the shrines! good luck splitpushing that t2. t2 was a little bit forsaken (no one cared to defend), true, but you could do so man things to fix this...

oh and did I tell you we also got 34 shrines at our bases? whelp, that's +10 minutes of highground defense.

>>173575171
It's literally so simple.
>Paying money to play differently
Bad
>Playing for free
Good

>>173574804

The big boom is recent. Even the peruvians play dota since the All Star at wc3, but you can't say they were a thing before.

>>173574341
Honestly, I don't know, he wanted to nerf high ground sieges and deathball pushes but instead he buffed them from 6.88 to 7.00.

Honestly, I blame Bruno Carlucci, ever since he joined Valve this game has gone to shit, fuck that 'le quirky' rainbow clothed faggot. Now that I think of it, he's just a fucking Pedro Nahaz.

What games are there that a dotard autist would enjoy? I haven't played singleplayer games in years

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>>173575504
member when Bruno used to make funny jokes about things that should be added to the game and everyone just laughed and said "oh Bruno" haha...

>>173575532
Probably League of Shitstains or Dawn of War 3: MOBA edition.

>>173575419
>>Paying money to play differently

Still not P2W. So, not bad

i stopped playing about a month after 7.00 was released. why is everyone suddenly sperging out?

a loli hero would save dota

prove me wrong

>>173575621
League is just as boring as Dota, Dawn of war I haven't tried, is it good?

>>173575630
>Paying to mechanically change the game

This seems like a good fit for dota

>>173575613
is SJW world now

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>>173575642
because there's nothing else to talk about in regards to Dota but how bad it is

>>173575335
I haven't had a report in about a month and a half

>>173574567
That's what I told myself when comeback gold was introduced. Then 7.00 happened and my soul died a little. I'm expecting the worst at this point.

>>173575702
Yea you're retarded Repeating your wrong statement over and over will never make it right

I'm done with you. I'll have the last laugh anyway when Valve implements this. Seeya tardface

>>173575019

Memewatch (also know as team fortress 3 of the storms) is literally moba with guns. It was fucking brilliant. Dota was a little bit dead. My friendlist was already playing memewatch thanks to the hype (I dropped because I'm a poorfag and got hooked to another chink liferuiner mmorpg and I don't like shooters).

Ok, we got the biggest patch in dota history guys, let's come back to our beloved game
>the patch is the biggest dogshit ever made by a frog

>it's okay guy, it's icefrog blocks! trust merlini! just give it some time we will get used to it
>friendlist dies again
>that first "play memewatch for fun to shill, bro" wave of people are now taking that shit too serious
>one month later
>we can barely find 3 people to play a game in
>all my hours dedicated to dota over a week are now a few hours of someone's memestream (and the pubs aren't so fun to watch now) and competitive (DAC was still fun watch, but the desire to play that happens when you watch a few good dotes dies literally on equeue later
>I play now two/four matches per week

Basically, DotA is something only to watch now.

>>173575931
That's what happens when you change what was a casual game into something more demanding than the game it casualized originally.

I miss 6.79, imagine if Icefrog only went with small balance and map changes here and there, adding more cool and fun items and heroes but kept the base game and DIDN'T ADD COMEBACK GOLD.

The game started degenerating since Comeback gold.

quick give me jungle heroes

>>173543763
Hey guys I'm back after 3 years, I quit DotA because I wanted to focus on school. It's been a few years now and I've got my masters in SWE and moved in with my girlfriend. I've also found the light of Jesus Christ and devoted my life to helping other, lesser people. I just wanted to say that you guys all need to find Christ and quit DotA. I promise the light of the lord Jesus Christ will liberate you from your sweaty basements. God Bless.

how do you manage to have enough farm while making sure your team doesnt keep dying in retarded teamfights for a t1 tower?

>>173576674
Hecarim and Lee Sin

>>173576674
i have game to win junglers:
>axe
>lc
>beastmaster
>enigma
>NP
>WK
>techies

i have a game to lose junglers:
>doom
>ench
>LS
>LD
>ursa
>troll
dont forget to be active from the get go, have a tp and some spare mana to help people getting dived etc.
also buy the fucking flying courier you cunt

A 7/10 girl just sent me nudes without me directly asking and I sent her a bunch hearts and smiley faces and told her I was gonna go and masturbate so I don't talk to her but I'm really gonna go play dota

Is something wrong with me?

>Streamers take like 20 min to find a game
Is Dota dead?

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>>173577040
post 'em

>>173577040

depends on the nudes. post those pics so we can evaluate your situation better

>>173577004
how do you jungle with wk?

>>173544325
Who is Arc Warden.

>>173577004
if you're jungle lc, be sure to be VERY clear with your team when your blink is up. those first few duels are vital to you snowballing. you don't want to blink in to duel when some support is full health and your teammates in lane aren't ready for it

>random tiny
>already have someone wanting to safelane so offlane
>time to rock the boat
>create space so morph can get fat
>and Jugg too
>they start to focus me
>start reserving Doom just for me
>just stop farming because it doesn't matter my networth I get focused and they have Axe Doom TB so it's not like I can itemize against this except for something like 5 hearts and a Shivas
>end up with less networth than our CM
>15 deaths
>won
>not salty at all

A good Morph is a fucking lifesaver.

>>173576197
That's not right. The reason why Dota is needlessly complicated is because it was adapted from War3, which has stupidly autistic mechanics because it was an RTS - a genre for the autists and the faux-geniuses.
Armor types and EHP, damage types, disjointing, magic+dmg res, buffs and debuffs, orb stacking, timings and build customization, once you actually learn them all the game can't be a casual hero brawler.

>>173576681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgNvzc-ZdME

>>173576681
post mmr before you quit faggot

>>173577350
No, I have to disagree with you.

Learning the things you mentioned has no impact on making the game more of a chore to play, they're just elements hidden in the background.

Dota 2 made changes that actually -requires you to do more chore-like tasks every game

>>173577004
>no bloodseeker
Actually how bad did the Iron Talon nerfs hurt him?

>>173577426
go back to /mu/ faggot

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>mfw I see someone get a midas and eat the big creeps

>>173577526
I LOVE YOU JESUS CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST

>>173577535
So, Midas is now a farming item and not a level up item?

Icefrog what the hell.

>>173570016
To shitpost about
>600 damage 7 target nuke
>lmao we carry Shadow Shaman now

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>another earth spirit nerf
If you hate the hero so much just remove him from the game. There's literally no reason to pick him now.

>>173577870
At this point I think Tusk is better.

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>>173577859
The Self arrives at last?

>>173577870
yeah i really think that i should just pick pudge over him every time when i am going to roam
>0.8s slow
>1.25s stun
>at lvl 3

WHOAH

>>173577870

he's a weaker roamer but still a retarded broken support that will eventually do 50% of the damage and CC on a team fight before the first 3 bkbs of the enemy team shows up

>>173578207
>ES entirely dependent on early game going well
>make it even harder to get kills
>never get levels because ES can't farm
>become useless the entire game outside of 1 stun
>said stun is about as fast as mirana arrow

>>173578363
You can say that about any roaming hero

>>173568481
I did it by farming Arc Lightning jumps at the enemy fountain, I think I even used my ultimate just for the vision.

tiny is still shit
please don't pick him
keep his pick and winrate low until frog buffs him again

Daily reminder that talents are a cool idea and the only problem is how generic they are.

Talents should be almost as unique as skills and items.

>the objective list of the bottom 5 biggest trashcan heroes in the game

Phantom Lancer
Winter Wyvren
Ancient Apparition
Bristleback
Broodmother

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>>173578906
>level 10 Lina Talents: Lina goes into heat every 2 minutes OR Lina talks dirty to you after every spell is cast

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Who /puck/ here?

>>173579020
Not that unique!

>>173578950
>No Razor
M8 at least AA has his ult Razor is just a bad version of all the right click heroes now

>>173578147
Don't forget the WHOPPING 200 damage.

>>173578207
>earth spirit
>damage
Huh?Without ult he does 500 damage. Technically you could get all that damage by level 9 if you only take a single point in Rouling Boulder and skip ult, but you usually want Rouling Boulder maxed before Grip, so you're looking at 350 damage combo for the early game.
Woweeee. And his ult is.
Okay.

But even saying all that, the real big deal was his level 1 kill potential. He didn't need to lane at all, just land one good Rolling Boulder with an OoV and you get a kill on the enemy mid at minute 1/2.

Now what do you do?
He can't offlane. He's a pisspoor roamer when compared to the alternatives. He's had his damage effectively halved over the last year. His base damage and general stats aren't exemplary in any way and neither are his growths.

What is the point of this hero now? Shit in lane, bad roaming without levels, mediocre burst, until he hits 6.
Fucker hasn't had close to 50% winrate in an eternity and a half but he still keeps getting nerfed. He needed nerfs at some point back when his stun's hitbox was three times larger than the remnant itself, yes, but at this point they're beating a dead horse.

Nobody picks Earth Spirit anymore.
He doesn't win games anymore.
He's bad. Really, really, really bad.

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>>173578950
>Elder Titan not on that list

>>173578363

nah, just book/leech lv 6 somewhere and try again

>>173578906
Just replace the +XP gain with something else

>>173579226

wut mate, you can connect like 3/4 autos after rolling, cancel that backswing, faggot.


he's weaker than before, yes, but still top tier. and magnetize is still retarded, it's the kind of skill that not one does decent damage but is also a huge area deny. magnetize'd people are basically afflicted with FEAR. too much damage from something that stuns, slow, silence and can also chain everything one screen away

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>>173579487
every -Respawn, +XP/GPM have to go

dumb uninspired garbage talents

>>173579487
Also the -Respawn Timer, that shit is broken and shouldn't exist, the only heroes that should be allowed to have it are Techies and Venge, and Venge doesn't even have it what the fuck icefrog? She's the one hero whom you can justify Respawn Timer reduction.

Also +HP/+Mana/+50 Damage are boring as fuck, shouldn't exist and can be easily replaced by +Stats if you can't come up with anything better.

>>173579665
Man these Threads are so dead

>>173579026
>puck
>girl

DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

>>173580146
Puck is transgender

>>173580069
It's 2 in the morning on a monday in Burgerland, what do you expect? People have work tomorrow.

>players get maybe 1-2 reports every 2 weeks
>regular ranked is indestinguishable from low priority
epic

srsly, forcestaff/pike needs a "cooldown" as in you can't force someone who already was forced.. 5 seconds should be good

>>173580682
>I hate fun.
GTFO my dead thread.

>>173580620
regular ranked isn't all random though

>>173580778

>fun

>hit skillshot stun
>someone force the carry out
>bring him back with x marks the spot
>he force himself out with his hurricane pike
>actually waiting for this, I aimed my ghost ship forward and he's about to connect!
>offlaner force his carry

nice fun

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Oh god guys, Ive played pic related. All games jungle, played really well. Now someone INSTA picked enigma on my team, and was lvl 4, 6 minutes in. He also went naked blink into bkb vs a lich.

Needless to say, I am the ONLY player in the whole 4k that can efficiently jungle.

>>173580197
>300 posts in 8 hours

Dead over all not just right now

>>173581179
>Jungle Treant
neck yourself

>>173579540
movement speed too.

>>173579487
XP gain talents are a big deal for supps

fuck off

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>>173581510
ROFL if you dont know jungle treant works. Fucking 2k shit. You literally first zone out the offlaner and when he sees that he cant do shit, you go to the offlane and secure ur offlaner 2-3 levels. Then you just afk jungle with iron talon, and E ur team as my superior map awareness never allows anyone to die, at least not without armor. Then you get ez 25 min aghs while warding all game long perfectly.

Fucking scrub

>>173578950
Wyvern is extremely good vs certain drafts. You're just bad.

>>173581639
>t. 2k shitter

>>173581772
Im four fucking kay you noob SHIT

>>173581651
What drafts exist that don't have tons of magic burst though.

>>173581584
For what?
All supports hit their milestone at lvl 6. If the hero needs levels past level 6 then:
1.its a shit support
2.its not a support.

the only thing you get from xpm talents is longer respawn time.

now with midas nerf its even more useless on supports.

>>173581831
>ogre is a bad support

vg everybody!

ogre doesnt even have an exp talent.

but nice damage control

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>d2g would staunchly oppose exp or gold splits between carry and support
>That is exactly what european countries do with their taxation policy

Really engages those neurons

>>173574682
Reminder that America has Goodeurope - the states

>99% white
>No oppressive taxation
>Not cucked by Muslim refugees
>Actual rights and the ability to defend oneself

We keep our minorities in containment states and cities

EU does not do this and continues to suffer from the trucks of peace

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're EU rather than a disgusting subhuman third worlder.

>>173577491
I don't understand what you're saying and I'm sure you don't understand what I'm saying.

The more mechanics there are -> the more things you need to learn and remember because of the many combinations of interactions

A game with less of these -> the clearer the road is to your objectives.

Point: a game with less things to remember are EASIER and are more enjoyable because there are less detours to these game goals. You can make mistakes. You are more aware of what needs to be done in your game. The core concept of kill heroes -> take towers is more defined instead of smoke gank, splitpush, stay as 5, save for buyback, etc.

Reddit spacing for your convenience.

>>173582473
>Claims that is EXACTLY what their taxation policy does
>Going by this, the European population is divided by classifying each person as carry or support

Really grows my mangoes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAHnYJACHsQ
I make some dota 2 videos, that's new. Rate, tell me what did you like, what i should fix etc.

>>173583278
you can pretty easily bisect society into worthwhile and worthless people

>>173583179
No, I understood what you're saying. You didn't understand what I was saying.

>Point: a game with less things to remember are EASIER and are more enjoyable because there are less detours to these game goals.

This was what I was saying by talking about current Dota 2. You need to remember not just more things, but you need to DO these things. AKA shrines and bounty runes in jungles.

The things you mentioned like magic+dmg res, orb stacking etc... are things that even if you do NOT remember then do not stop you in any way because you are not required to do anything to act upon them.

Compare those to the aforementioned Bounty runes that should be collected every so often lest an enemy player get them and Shrines that you need to go to to avail of the free healing instead of just naturally always going back to base like in pre7.00 Dota.

>>173583492
>Supports or Carries are worthless

Really really paves my sidewalks

>>173583278
>what is type A and type B personalities

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>>173581179
AND THEN I FUCKING JUNGLED ALCH LIKE A BOSS, AND WON A GAME

SURPRISE? NOT A CHANCE. I AM THE ONLY TRUE JUNGLER DOTA 2 EU 4K MMR DESERVES.

>>173583496
>The things you mentioned like magic+dmg res, orb stacking etc... are things that even if you do NOT remember then do not stop you in any way because you are not required to do anything to act upon them.
Absolutely you do. Entire games change because one hero gets one specific item, or in cap's mode the final pick chnages the entire landscape of a game because it has this one thing which the other 5 on the enemy team cannot stop.

eg. an Underlord pick, 40% dmg redux aura who builds mek/shivas/cuirass/crim against a phys dmg line-up.

These intricate mechanics make (almost) every single game different and change timings and the strategy. Compare it to a simpler game like LoL or even Overwatch where you can "main" a hero or character and use almost the same strategy every game.

>no dota2 mandela effect

>>173584239
For the longest time, I thought that ranged heroes burned less mana with diffusal.

>try to push t3 tower
>it gains 15 fucking armor
what do?

>>173584531
go play a better game

>>173584369
but they do

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>>173584531
>try to memepush
>get cucked

>>173584048
>Absolutely you do. Entire games change because one hero gets one specific item, or in cap's mode the final pick chnages the entire landscape of a game because it has this one thing which the other 5 on the enemy team cannot stop.

No. That's not at all what we were talking about anymore because what you just said now is true in both pre7.00 Dota and 7.00 Dota

Shrines and Bounty runes are LITERAL detours that you have to act upon instead of just focusing on kill heroes and taking towers like you said. Compared to the hidden mechanics you listed earlier which, even if a player did not know they exist, do not distract players with a big shiny sign on the map saying, "HEY WE ARE 'IMPORTANT'!" from what used to be the straightforward flow of the game.

>Compare it to a simpler game like LoL or even Overwatch where you can "main" a hero or character and use almost the same strategy every game.

But we're not comparing Dota to LoL and Overwatch so there's no point bringing them up. Apples to Oranges.

Anyway, I'm goinna go play some more games. Given your post now, I don't think you actually understand enough of what I'm saying to and neither do you actually know what you're arguing for to continue having a conversation with me.

tldr; 7.00 Dota is a fucking chore to play instead of the casual no-brainer game it used to be.

>>173584976
>But we're not comparing Dota to LoL and Overwatch
This entire comment chain was spawned from people discussing why Dota is hard compared to LoL/OW/other games. It's always been hard, and it's even harder now with 4 bounty runes and shrines, plus the hundreds of new talents.

I'm also highly amused by the fact that you seemed like you were ready to sit down and have a discussion, but at the same time were so ready to discount the other person's opinion and consider it a waste of time the moment it doesn't go your way.

Enjoy that game, god knows it has rotted your brain.

>>173584891
They don't, everybody burns 50 mana, the amount of mana burn has changed over time, but both melee and ranged heroes have always burned the same amount of mana as each other.