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old >>173383234
Need a concede
33464
People seriously think shadow is gonna be nerfed?
They would if they could.
The only card they can actually nerf is maybe russian lady of tempo.
They wont nerf a legendary, and the other cards are either un-nerfable (like Catacomb) or belong in other sets ( Reaper)
There is literally nothing they can do which can break the deck if they follow their own rules, and they can even stand to lose Orthus if they did nerf her.
>>173405019
>Blood main since pre-DE
>immune from this since blood has never been OP fotm for more than 2 weeks
Being shit has its perks
>>173405107
Prince of Bones is easy to nerf.
>>173405107
Prince of Catacombs costs shadows for each follower he buffs, the card is no longer a problem.
>>173405107
by that logic dragon can't be nerfed too
they should nerf their cheap ramp cards
midrange sword in DE didn't lose to anything, had positive match-ups across the board, and didn't get nerfed. why would they nerf shadow?
>>173405159
How? They wont remove an ability outright, and he is already a 1/1
>>173405107
The legends are fine, othrus and catacombs need a hit
>>173405107
They could remove bones spawning his own skeletonman for example.
>>173405107
>Change catacomb's text from "All allied followers" to "All other allied followers"
There
>>173405197
Make him not affect himself.
>>173405195
midrange sword didn't have multiple craft matchups above 60% winrate and virtually no counterpicks.
More story when?
>>173405192
By this logic dragon can easily be nerfed you dip.
Grimnir, Lightning blast, Rahab and wind reader zell are all potential candidates for nudges.
In case anyone didn't believe me when I said Dragon is a nightmare if they go first.
>>173405249
Maybe next month.
>>173405257
grimnir and rahab are gold and arent even the main problem
literally nobody cares of lightning blast
its problem its sybill, israfil, ouroboros but if they dont touch those they should nerf the old ramp cards, which i hope they do, because those cards seriously limit the space for new dragon cards
nerfing zell isnt enough or even mandatory
the root of the problem it's ramp
>>173405107
>This fucking wall of kvetching
>"Nerfs for thee but not for me, our class is a special case that should be protected, we can't be nerfed"
Holy fuck I thought the banishcaust thing was just a meme. Why are shadow players so damn jewy?
>>173405107
>or belong in other sets ( Reaper)
since when was that a rule?
>prince catacomb not giving himself a skeleton
Why do people think this nerf would accomplish anything?
Shadow is so fucking oppressive that it needs multiple nerfs.
Catacomb, Orthrus and Eachtar all need to be nerfed to bring the deck down to tier 0.5. More if they want actual balance and not just a slap on the wrist.
>>173405210
True, you could do that, but is 1 skeleton in a sea of many really going to make a gigantic difference?
>Turn 7 against forest
>have lethal on board
>they Elf Queen, no evos left
>I still have lethal on board after the heal
>T-time for target practice
>>173405417
>Lighting blast is fine no one is triggered by the ramp class having unconditional answer to every board state in the game
>>173405417
Cygames doesn't care if a card is gold, they will still nerf it, if they see it fit. The only cards they've never touched are legos.
Any Death's Ledger lists? Don't care if it isn't 'viable', I just want to try something fresh
Defend this.
>>173405462
People want it to be balanced not to gut it.
Fucking hate how smug dragon players now desu i liked it more when theyre part of the dumpster tier with haven and blood
>>173405076
Still need a quick concede for daily
33464
>>173405483
Shadowverse is just too tempo based to work with Elf Queen
Rowen gets away with it because they decided to attach the heal in small doses to all of their massive bodies
>>173405478
It matters a lot to aggro, although not so much to midrange.
>>173405462
>one 1/1 body which can feed Shadowreaper out of aoe range/orthrus target less
>1 shadow less
Sounds like a good beginning.
>>173405539
usually used as a tech in nep, afaik
>>173405540
Those are some big Reapers.
>>173405540
just will of the forest broq
>>173405195
Because its winrate came about after the nerfs to forest and rune, of which Daria was fairly strong against, especially with 1-cost piercing runes.
Forest was in a similar situation with the highest overall winrate, though it definitely had more bad matchups than mid-sword or current shadow have.
>>173405565
they deserve to be roped
if you play dragon you deserve no respect
>>173405579
This. I thought about that nerf before too. It would matter for aggro's early game, but not be a huge deal for midrange. And midrange has the same/higher winrate.
>>173405573
Yeah definitely, I don't think she's really a thing to drop on curve, especially if you don't have an evo to deal with the board. Aerin's a lot more effective right now
>>173405701
thankfully you are not in charge of balancing
bringing out winrate, huh
>>173405417
Doesnt fucking matter if they arent a main problem, if it fixes the situation in the end
>>173405750
>thankfully you are not in charge of balancing
Obviously not. We are just talking around things. Nothing said here actually matters in the end.
>>173405787
nerfing oracle/aerin fixes it and clears up the space for future cards too
not like i against rahab and grimnir being nerfed too, preferably losing -1 defence
nerfing shadow won't be as easy as you guys think because shadow by nature has cards that are mediocore individually but only become oppressive when together. i honestly have no idea how they're gonna nerf this, the synergy is so strong.
>>173405290
Oh wow poor you.
Perhaps this makes up for all the times we've been hit with 3 quickbladers and 2 novice troopers within the first 4 turns of the match and are at 8 health on turn 4
>>173405868
They dont nerf old cards
>>173405868
>>173405445
>>173405437
Name me a card from an older set was nerfed while a newer set was active.
>ramp dragon rqing
>SKULL BEAST
>CONJURER
>PRINCE CATACOMB
PEOPLE THINK RAMP IS WORSE THAN THIS?
HAHAHAHAHA.
>>173405cards>>173405959
they nerfed 4 cards overall since the game release
dunno why you assume they have some rule to never nerf old xards
>>173405883
I didn't play Sword in Rob, so no use calling me a swordshitter.
This isn't about being a swordshitter in the first place.
No matter what craft you are playing, nothing can deal with a 10pp dragon at turn 4, they might as well just concede, because they are sure to be obliterated by a wave of bahamuts, grimnirs and saha israfils, etc..
Haven loses
Shadow loses
Forest loses
Sword loses
Rune loses
Blood loses
Dragon who goes second loses.
Tell me dragontard, how is this fine and balanced?
>>173406041
>do nothing for 3 turns
>cry
>>173405883
Wow dragonfag is so damaged, his tier 1 deck can potentially lose to a tier 2 if it has the perfect curve and draws absolutely none of his overstatted wards and heals
>>173406057
Cursed be those dragons with their 10pp turn 4 every game and their 100% winrate against every class!
>>173406057
>Shadow loses
Wow Daria is fucking useless.
I can't even do Rune missions any more.
>>173406162
>it doesn't happen every game so its fine
Flawless logic
>>173406196
Good
Here's hoping it stays that way
Give me one (1) reason to not vial every single blood card I own.
>Win 1 Rune match
Okay then.
>Aggro Shadow
>Aggro Shadow
>Storm Ramp
>Neutral Ramp
>Aggro Shadow
Alright. I'm done with this expansion. See you guys in three months
>>173406239
Blood will be T1 at the end of tog, just like sword was at the end of rob.
>turn 2 aria into turn 3 dogma is now mediocore
the powercreep is unreal
>>173406239
Sexy girls
>>173406204
Every deck can curve that good that the enemy deck has no counter play against that. What's your point?
>>173406276
I don't play unga decks, I don't give a fuck if the retarded kys aggro blood is T1 or not.
>>173406239
Sexy boys
>>173406304
Well if you hate blood then vial all your blood cards then. I can't fix shit taste.
Aggro Shadow is more cancer than Ramp Dragon.
You know this.
>>173406048
Then name me the older cards nerfed while a newer set was active.
So far it have been the case for every single card for several expansions
>>173406348
Who cares, they're both tier 1 braindead cancer
>>173406057
If you nut draw as aggro like I described and you are going first, dragon would be dead before they could even spell the word ramp.
To ramp that hard requires absolute luck and mostly you going first as well. Every deck has the ability to nutdraw like that. You do understand that dragon ramping to turn 10 that fast isn't new right? It's been possible to do that since DE. The only thing that has changed is dragon getting more cards to use that don't suck at high PP values.
>>173406204
Almost every meta deck has bullshit curves that take absolute luck. Or did people never complain about turn 4 Daria, turn 3 5/6 ancient elf, multiple quickbladers and novice troopers, triple reapers, beastcall aria -> hallowed dogma, etc.
If you pull off most of that shit dragon will die while ramping to 10 pp
I think they should honestly figure out how to make it fair with both players having 3 Evo points, It's so fucking huge.
need a concede
28016
>>173406286
Not to such a degree, even if the opponent gets a perfect curve, you can still make a comeback if you play well and draw lucky.
But you have to consider that if dragon curves perfectly then they will have 10pp at turn 4, on top of having game superiority, which isn't present in the other classes with perfect curves. Not only you lose your game advantage, but play point advantage as well, therefore there is zero chance of making a comeback as opposed to other perfect curves where you don't get behind play point.
I would honestly rather play against aggro shadow with perfect curve than ramp dragon with perfect curve.
>>173406430
But the game is finally balanced perfectly. Why would you want to break it?
>>173406430
Right now the person going first has a higher winrate tho.
Am I the only one who doesn't like Zombie Party? Every time I draw this stupid card I wish I'd drawn something else instead.
>>173406348
Only because of the wallet factor.
>draft hot garbage in T2
>havencuck gets seraph and countdown reduction, all on curve of course
why is blood the most sexy craft?
Ya'll can say what you want about the relative power of shadow and dragon decks.
But at least they are finally clsoer to their class fantasies than ever before.
Shadow is finally about necromancy. REAL recromancies. Not just fucking + 2/2 hurr.
Skeletons, zombies, demon lords buffing the horde etc.
Dragon ramp is finally a fantasy that works in itself, and not just a crutch to try barf out as many Fortes as possible quickly to cheese decks that dont have wards.
Now they are actually about powering up and using big creatures to overwhelm anything in sheer power.
>>173406348
nope
ramp makes dragon be the pinnacle of cancer
>>173406495
i love that card, turn 7 zombie party -> turn 8 reaper + deaths breaths is amazing if they dont have board clear
>>173406548
yea, they finally fixed dragon and shadow and made their mechanics good. now when are they gonna fix blood?
>>173406468
Tell me which deck can win against a daria who vomits whole hand on the board at t4/5.
Even your 10pp turn 4 dragon would lose against that. 10pp curve still means he had to skip multiple turns doing absolutely nothing.
>>173406637
Never. Blood has always been worse than Dragon, yet Dragon got insane stuff while Blood got fucking Sneks. The great sneks of turn 3 do nothing, turn 5 do nothing into turn 6 do nothing,
>>173406675
t4 10pp just drops bahamut
>>173406348
It's the same situation as in RoB. People were crying about Daria all the time while roaches were sniping fucking everyone. But hey. Dragon is a problem not comrade Eachtar.
>>173406637
They did. Blood finally uses Vengeance, so much so that Soul Dealer sees play now
>>173406637
Suicide blood is the perfect example of how the vengeance mechanic was supposed to be used.
Sybel is too huge of a body for the effects it brings.
The healing happens at the end of every turn so you can't ignore it.
If it evolves, it becomes a 6/7 that's impossible to trade into.
Hard removal spells still leaves you with an empty board where dragon can freely ramp and draw more cards. Or play another Sybel.
Eacter is the same. He's way too huge of a body that summons up to 4 zombies with 4/2 rush.
Just be glad sword lacks huge body followers outside of Leonidas or a properly boosted Aurelia.
when is thane useful? I've got a couple in my deck but he hasnt seemed very useful except when I probably would have won anyway
Reminder to sign up for next week's NGE tournament.
>>173406734
Nope at t4 you just reached 10pp. Next round you can take your 15 damage to the face and then you can drop your naked Bahamut and die to Blade mages.
>>173406274
>waaah i'm getting matched up with a tier 1 deck!
>i was hoping to play against pepe memes
>>173406675
Wrong, dragon ramp cards aren't "do nothing" other than oracle.
Aeilia is a body that can trade
Fervor heals for 3 and draws 2 cards
Sybil is a body that ramps and also heals for 3.
So how is dragon "doing nothing"?
If dragon ramp was the equivalent of "do nothing this turn" as you say, then aggro decks would have no problem beating dragons at all.
Also I had no problem beating Daria flood assuming I got to ramp up and had salamander's breath.
>frog shitter gets the perfect curve.
fuck off.
>>173406748
is that a joke? i see nothing but shadow complaints
>>173406842
Sibyl is out of the question. She only does anything after turn 5.
>>173406842
Tell me how you reach 10pp at t4 without chaining multiple dragon oracles.
>>173406734
You realize he doesn't actually have 10pp on turn 4 right? Turn 6 is literally the earliest you can possibly be at 10 pp and it requires massive luck.
Another P2W sleeve.
>>173407017
>Turn 6 is literally the earliest you can possibly be at 10 pp and it requires massive luck.
Is that so~ >>173405290
there is now a dedicated amulet row behind the follower row Y/N?
>>173407046
>isra behind paywell
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>173407046
you buying it?
>>173406748
they both are and dragon is actually worse because once you reach turn 8 vs aggro shadow you basically win
if you dont play an aggro deck you WILL lose to dragon ramp since 100% of their deck is value
removal up the ass, healing up the ass,high cost high reward cards up the ass
They dont have a SINGLE bad card
One thing I miss from Hearthstone are spells that can also target your own followers. Removal and damage spells in this game always say "...to an enemy (follower)".
https://twitter.com/_aporoG/status/850680878883721218
Cat is saying that he might be unable to stream for a while. What now?
>>173406274
Daria is still effective though, maybe just tech mutagenic bolt for funsy.
>>173407062
That's dragon's turn 6 coming up there you fucking moron, he just boosted into 10 pp that turn which was his turn 5. Meaning he's not at 10 pp until turn 6.
If you are too stupid to understand that just from looking at the picture then please tell me the card combination that would put you at 10 pp before turn 6. Because it doesn't exist without your opponent doing something like urding your Aiela for you.
>>173407046
>There are probably people out there that have whaled so hard they have all of these plus entire sets of animated cards
>>173383481
>The artist should have drawn her such that her huge size crushed the rabbit into a blood splatter beneath her foot
If you actually read the lore, Sukuna can only transform into human size TEMPORARILY. Her fairy form is her TRUE form.
So even if Sukuna was the thoughtless psychopath you're making her out to be, she would never crush her own Rabbit mount because:
A. She would have transformed many times before so she would know well enough to not be riding her rabbit when she transformed.
B. Rabbit mounts, like well trained riding horses, are surely a valuable commodity. Would you crush your own Lamborghini? Even if Sukuna was a legit, murder-happy sadist, she would never dream of destroying such a valuable and useful thing.
>>173407191
is really easy to give tools to fight dragons.
just wait for the next expansion Sword nad Blood will rule
>>173407274
Its his 5th turn actually you mongoloid, learn to count.
>>173407069
>there is now a dedicated amulet row behind the follower row Y/N?
Dirt Rune now dominates the ladder.
What's wrong with Dragon decks' winrate on syadoreco? "Midrange" Dragon is always the most popular variant but has negative winrate, whereas Saha Ramp and Storm Ramp have ridiculously high winrate but barely played. Is this another case of misreported data? Seems like overall class winrate is the only data that's reliable.
>>173407235
SV is suppose to be a mobile game so they make clear to people not missclick and do dumb things
>>173407046
>50 000 yen
Neutral card with last word that destroys enemies pp when?
>>173407249
How does that even happen in current meta?
Control was absolutely killed by dragon
I made it to A1 with snek control blood!Started at A3
fuck off cygames, literally gave me someone who played 3 vampire fortresses and 2 vanias and a that fucking bat blast shit and killed me on 6 even though i played a fucking 3 7 and an aerin fuck off
Suggest reasonable nerfs ala the Piercing Rune nerf that tone down the power of Dragon/Shadow without killing them.
>>173407372
He just boosted to 10 PP you fucking retard he didn't have 10 pp to start the turn. Have you ever played a fucking ramp card before?
Once again, as I stated, since you are too stupid to deduce it from the image. Go through the card combination in your head and you would actually understand it is not possible to be at 10pp at the start of your turn until turn 6. Don't reply to me unless you actually figure this out.
>>173407434
>5$
its a steal
>>173407046
>Israfil sleeve.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>173407434
20k yen is enough, 50k just include more ToG packs.
>>173407531
Cant do that without fucking other crafts over in the process
But saha is definitely one that should be destroyed entirely to a point where she is unplayable
wtf cygames its only my 5 turn and my opponent drops israfil fuck off
>>173407420
Storm Ramp is ridiculous but is not fun like the ones with tons of healing effects
I'm a dumb oldfag that came back to see what's going on and you all seem to think ramp dragon seems to shit on control, if that's the case how do they fare up against shit like pic related? Is it really worse than aegis now?
>>173406348
Only because it's cheaper.
Dragon is absolute cancer to play against.
>heal
>ramp
>ward
>ramp
>heal
>board clear
>heal
>board clear
Shadow is just the best aggro deck right now like blood was at the start of RoB.
>>173407531
>catacomb doesn't give himself a skeleton anymore
>zell can only target dragoncraft followers
Start with this, wait a few weeks and readjust if necessary.
>>173407531
as already pointed out, its nearly impossible to nerf shadow with how they already nerfed cards in the past.
Dragons use loads of golds and Zel which can be tuned tho
Remember all these posts at the start of expansion saying Luna is dead?
I remember.
>>173407659
Seraph gets odin/blasted
Aegis+Test is the new and hotness, unless Storm Ramp and you get ouroboros to death.
>>173406675
>Even your 10pp turn 4 dragon would lose against that
>L. Blast
>Bahamut
>Grimnir
>Salamander
>>173407653
Bullshit, if it wins people will flock to it. Aggro Shadow isn't all that fun to play either and it's the most popular deck right now.
>>173407602
Oh. But still Cygames know how to hit target audiance. I want this more than packs.
>>173407737
Oh right that dumb fucking aoe banish enhance spell
Satancat said on his twitter he won't be doing stream today and he seems rather depressed.
>>173407672
I actually like these nerf suggestions. Prevents Dragon from slapping 13 damage in your face, which is even worse because Dragon can ramp up to that point pretty fast.
>>173407713
It was more Nep than anything else, and that ended up being true.
>>173407713
Remember all those dragonposts memeing how Shadow was kill?
>>173407745
Aggro duels are only 5 turns and fast so you can make 3 games while defensive builds of dragon only did 1.
>>173407713
No, people were saying that Nep will be dead.
>>173407713
Remember how everyone specifically said Nep was dead?
Were they wrong anon?
>>173407713
I remember!
>>173407779
>Satancat said on his twitter he won't be doing stream today and he seems rather depressed.
What am I supposed to watch now?
>>173407834
Nope. It was full of Luna killing herself memes.
How do you retards feel now?
>>173407793
>>173407851
>delusional aggro fags
>>173407787
>>173407834
>>173407847
nep isn't dead though, in fact it has a positive winrate (yes against dragon too). it's just why would you play her over midrange shadow which is far superior
>cygames not only makes shadow's followers twice as sticky but also gives the craft bloodlust
how do they do it!
the mad men!
>>173407827
But Saha and Storm should be very fast and aggressive as well with their retarded burst damage.
>>173407659
Seraph is basically unplayable this expansion
>>173407873
Just play the game yourself dude.I'm disappointed too, I always watch his stream while eating dinner. I hope he'll be better soon.
>>173407928
even with the perfect ramp they need t8-t9 to win
>>173407883
Yep.
Remember when /svg/ made fun of our card reveals?
Who is laughing now?
>>173407997
HIP HIP HOORAY
>>173404986
H-hayai!
>>173407997
HIP-HOP -HORRAY
OUR META NOW
>>173407997
That face creeps me out every time I see it.
>>173407997
HIP HIP HORAY
>>173407191
>they both are and dragon is actually worse because once you reach turn 8 vs aggro shadow you basically win
Except that doesn't fucking happen. Statistics suggest you never reach turn 8 and they just fucking kill you. And if they're playing midrange, they most certainly can continue to flood the board for as long as they have cards in their hand.
I'm beginning to think the only people complaining about dragon are people that played the absolutely slowest and shittiest decks without real win conditions like control sword and control blood.
And it's funny, because even without dragon those shitty control decks without hard wincons still lose to aegis, d-shift, forest anyways. Dragon is just the biggest complaint because it's popular.
>>173407983
>nep again
>lightning blast
>nep again
>+ sexton
>Theres no one else I'd rather lose to! while making a retard face
Also this might be a strange coincidence but I only see rowen play ramp. Absolutely nobody uses forte
>>173407997
>>173408054
>>173407997
>>173408072
I think they are riding the Saha Ramp.
Shit's costly as fuck so I just stick to Storm Ramp.
>>173408038
aggro sword is still tier 1
>>173407997
It'll be even funnier when inevitable nerfs come.
Concede please senpai :D
89773
>>173407779
Catacomb nerf is small, but hits at the same time Shadowreaper (he can't eat the extra skeleton and get out of aoe range), Orthrus (doesn't have a follower to boost) and generally the shadow generation.
Zell nerf weakens the non-storm dragon ramp. SahaRamp is nasty because they manage to shut down aggro, while still able to burst slower decks like haven and dshift. That nerf would affect probably the aegis haven and dshift matchup most. I expect dshift's winrate against normal ramp dragon to increase a lot after that.
Those nerfs might seem small, but the piercing rune nerf was also small and did influence the whole meta a lot.
>>173407921
>nep isn't dead though, in fact it has a positive winrate (yes against dragon too).
lmao it's true, dragonbabs when will they ever learn
>>173408176
>tfw you contributed to this
Best feeling
>>173408038
The Age of Men is over
The Time of the Skellington has come
>>173408249
Post list, how did you adapt to the new set? I wanna try Nep again after enough fucking around with Atomeme.
>>173408038
That is until the next expansion brings the Haven uprising.
>>173408142
thank you vania :D
concede into me!
12105
This deck is absolutely balanced and requires no nerf.
>>173408370
gonna need that dick boi
>>173407997
I remember, and have prepared this edit.
>>173408323
>elana haven just casually heals through turn 6 sneks
Okay, I'm actually done with this garbage game.
Is Gwent or Eternal or whatever any good?
>When your opponent is at 4 HP and you have two Mimi in hand
>>173408391
Just the typical midrange shadow.
It's that broken.
>>173408403
All card games are like that bb try ben10mmo,peppa pig racing and kid games.
>>173408314
I just added lolisquisher and goblin princess instead of going 2378
Goblin princess is great for controling the board and you can force removals on it instead of on nep since they think eachtar is coming
>>173408396
>dat Luna smug
>>173408450
wasn't 2378 buffed because it got grimmnir
>>173408396
>those eggs
>>173408396
Source?
>>173408521
I'd gladly pound Erika's eggs iykwim
>>173408396
Rowen emotes are pure reaction gold mine. Shit cracks me up everytime I see it.
How's my deck /svg/? Anything I can do to improve it?
>>173408538
>doesnt know oglaf
>>173408604
>one death's breath
>one eachtar
>one grimnir
might as well just go full aggro senpai
Blizzard made d-shift more cancerous in HS than in SV you can ice block ice block and gain a extra turn with double arcane giant
>>173408343
still waiting...
>>173408538
http://oglaf.com/cornwalling/
>>173407457
It was a dragon mirror
We both were saha luci isra
>>173407713
shadow is dead
and if these queers get the devs to nerf it instead of what made it viable (ramp cancer) then we won't even have an aggro deck
the only reason people are playing shadow is because it can survive dragon's board clears
you will never be able to play control shadow ever again and midrange will die with aggro nerfs or if any other temp or midrange deck has even the slightest edge over shadow
>>173408679
>>173408679
>>173408610
>>173408648
thanks
I'M READY FOR YOU SHADWOBABS
GOOD LUCK I'M BEHIND 20 WARDS
>>173408771
>no canon
would not use
>>173408771
Hope they give to sword a nurse next expansion
>>173408771
post dick
>>173408771
Did your Gaywain manage to attack 3 times without dying or what?
>>173408771
>wind god in an aggro deck
>>173408648
>http://oglaf.com/cornwalling/
I can't tell if this is homo or not
Because if it is, it would also be homo to fuck Cog
I love Sukuna!
So tempting to craft a 3rd Pascale.
Shes just so good to get on curve against dragonbabs as long as I have literally anything to buff.
>>173408865
If traps are not gay then a man turning into a woman via alchemy is definitely not
>>173408343
>>173408648
welp, had to do it on reddit
when it was the last time i got my surrender on 4chan again
>>173408852
Yeah he used his cerb + howl + evolve and went face instead of clearing Gawain.
>>173408834
Fun against aggro, really bad against Dragon.
>>173408998
I tried to enter but...
>>173408924
>traps are not gay
Said no one ever
>>173408998
>try and concede into vampy
>invalid id
>>173408998
I tried to join your game 5 minutes ago but it said someone already joined.
>>173408717
>>173408740
Get argument my dudes!
Shadow got nep last expansion and no there is a perfect one sided counter for it that also fucks over seraph players. Read the thread haven mains are still complaining. Now the only shit shadow got this expansion you guys are rioting to nerf. We are heading straight back to DE where we had jack shit.
>>173408771
>play pendant
>play grimnir
You should hear the roar by now.
>>173409048
Reverse traps are gay.
Eris is ____
>>173409178
missionary position
>>173409178
a hag.
>>173409178
FAT
AND OLD
>>173409178
mating press
>>173409178
Stinky butt
>>173409115
Nep did fuck all last expansion, it was still Aggro Shadow carrying the craft. And this is Shadow's performance right now.
>>173409178
a kind woman who just wants everyone to be happy.
>have 3 Belphegor in my blood deck
>never fucking get her in my hand
>for the entire game
I've ran 4 games, 4 games and not a single fucking Belph
>>173409178
a slut who pleases old eldritch gods for money
>>173409320
how many turns in each game?
>>173408865
It would be homo to fug Cog, the real question is "Would that stop you?".
>Luna uses your mother,father and little brother as a shield
Wow. Dont tell me people actually defend Luna?
>>173409346
9+ on average
>>173409115
>>173409286
And this is Dragon's, tell me which one is the stronger one right now? Even as a Shadow main I would say the class and Dragon need a nerf for a better meta.
>>173409386
Luna is precious and worth protecting.
>>173408427
>When your opponent is at 4 HP and you draw Grimnir
>>173408878
1st time evolved her i didnt expect sukunas increase That much
>>173409403
21% to happen in 1 game.
pretty rare
>>173409592
What are the odds for THIS to happen?
>>173409386
It's written right there anon, your father, mother, and little brother defend her.
>A 2 drop follower is a legit wincon...
uhhh, shadowbabs?
>when your opponent isn't a banishcraft, has 2hp left and you have a necrocunny on your board
>>173409728
Roach
>>173406348
>a bunch of 1/1s and potentially buffed 1/1
>compared to
>I HAVE ELEVENTY BILLION PLAY POINTS BY TURN 3 AND A 5/4 THAT CAN'T BE KILLED AND ALSO HEALS ME AND A 2/3 THAT HITS EVERYTHING EVEN FACE AND I CAN BANISH ALL YOUR GUYS AND AND AND
>>173409728
but according to svg it's a shitty inconsistent piece of crap that bricks in your hand??
>>173409592
not sure what you calculate but certainly not the chance to get bel when you draw 3 (not counting mulligan) + 9-10 i.e. 12-13 cards in a 9 turns game
not counting other card draws too, drawing a 5+/n card with baphomet slightly increases a chance for belph being the next
>>173409771
So Reaper has ascended to Roach levels of stupidity now?
>>173409728
wildfang dragonewt
50394
need surr help pls thanks
>>173409728
roach,vania,yurius, baphomet, razor claw, holy bowman kel, guardian sun, carrot, zell, dragon oracle, mushussu
>>173409820
Yes, and Thane is a 7pp "do nothing"
>>173409592
>>173409403
I fucked up the real is like that.
So 66% to draw the card until t9.
33% in 1 duel
>>173409714
kek
>>173409897
No, he's still behind Levi and Roach in term of bullshit-ness. The one who enables all of this is Catacomb.
>>173409969
>bowman kel
Yet to see this ever actually work.
>>173409998
does it count getting at least 1 specific card as the "success" or getting strictly 1 specific card? because there are times when you get 1, when you get 2 and when you get all 3 and they all should count as a success
How are you ladder today /svg/?
>>173410069
Extremely easy to combo because of 2 drop and especially deadly with elana who runs nothing but heal anyway
You can hit for 18 damage if you have pegasus sculpture on board already
>>173409969
>>173410069
>kel
I still remember Havenshitters masturbated over the card calling him the support that would make Elana cancer again.
>>173409820
>but according to svg it's a shitty inconsistent piece of crap that bricks in your hand??
When has anyone ever said this? Unless you're referring to the time when RoB cards were first being revealed, which is kinda pointless. Such predictions are almost always wrong.
Aggro Shadow was strong in RoB, and is strong now. Reaper is one of the main reasons why.
>>173410142
you kinda get it.
population size =deck(40)
number of successes in population = number of cards in deck(3)
sample size= initial hand + draws (3+9)
number of successes in sample =the chance to get the card until the specific turn( atl least 1)
>>173410163
>win 1 runecraft quest
my only rune deck used to be earth
this might take a while
>9 days ago
>LOL SHADOW IS DEAD EAT LIGHTNING BLAST
Turns out what they need is a better bone chimera. Who would have thunk?
>>173410217
Reaper-kun worked very hard to prove his worth.
>>173410295
use burn rune
>>173410326
nep is indeed dead though, as it was predicted
>>173410337
dont have the levis for it
2pp
1 1
is good ina aggro deck...
>>173410295
Try 4
>>173410458
is it a riddle?
>Take Two
>OwlCat uses Cyclone Blade
I don't care that I lost that was entertaining to see.
>>173410295
I know that pain
Dirt is my only rune deck as well.
>>173410329
shadow reaper-kun works so hard for luna's sake, please don't bully him
Is the meta still shit?
>>173410458
Are you talking about Reaper?
He's not even the only 2pp 1/1 that's good in aggro decks.
Is it possible to find good decklists in English? I have no idea what I'm doing.
>>173410458
what a fake ass strawberry
Would owlcat be used in constructed if it also healed your leader for 1 health each time it successfully destroyed a enemy follower with its effect?
>>173410850
it looks as a fake girl too
>>173410843
You don't need to speak japanese to navigate game-ai and look at the pictures
>>173410850
I see absolutely no reason to believe that strawberry is fake.
>>173410830
yeah ToG is way better than Daria+albert meta
>>173410843
try to use jp sites and ask for tips here
>>173410857
not but will seems like a dragon card
Anyone who can concede a match?
34150
>>173410967
>>173411002
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/33663
My biggest problem is I don't know anything about the card replacements for this one, it seems to be offering cheaper cards to replace some of the pricier ones, but how do I know which ones to swap out?
"What's that? You made a Haven deck anon? It's just for dailies, you say? A likely story...."
watching d-shift streams, it looks such a pain of a deck
>>173405224
He doesn't, read the wording.
CAN ANYTHING MAKE THIS WOMAN SMILE?
>>173410994
Then you have obviously never eaten a real one
>>173411112
replace
cost need to be around the same
effect need to be around the same
impact need to be around the same
>>173411195
I wouldnt mind groping those tits
>>173411112
gamewith lists are known to be shit
use google translate
also there is nothing you can swap hectors for in midrange but you likely can go away with 2
>>173411201
I have eaten a lot of strawberries. They don't all look small and perfect like pic related.
>>173408038
Someone redo this with Arisa and Urias.
>>173405914
>what is harvest festival
>>173408878
LOOK AT THOSE BAZONGAS
>>173411240
i have read as "growing" :^)
>>173410194
>I still remember Havenshitters masturbated over the card calling him the support that would make Elana cancer again.
I only remember retards and losers crying about cygames creating any card that could even remotely be used in an Elana deck.
>>173405290
Suck on my scaly nuts, swordboy.
>>173411195
I just got memed on by a Phoenix rider Aina deck
>>173410843
Just use gamepress if you are a newbie, it's good enough.
>>173411195
unlike most of angels she has shoulder wings instead of ass wings and the other angels bully her
>>173411438
>when she sees your dick
>>173411438
this somehow makes it lewder
>>173411195
A good hard fucking.
>>173411462
>A good face dragon card is a meme
Is everything that isn't considered tier 1 a meme according to /svg/
>>173411438
It just doesnt feel right
>>173411250
I could deal with crafting two hectors, and I already have two immortal thanes, but there are so many lower cost cards that take like 800 vials to craft, plus I need two more cerberus.
>>173411572
No, the deck was a meme built around her. Not all memes are bad, but that's gotta be inconsistent.
>>173410830
>Take a break since tired and nothing from packs
>Daria is gone
>Rowen still isn't taking his meds
>Hearthstone has DShift
>People think it's ebin and funny
>The one animated Eachtar I did get is top tier
What a world. There's still a T1 though so of course it is.
need a private game win for quest
89502
pls concede
>>173406359
You're seeing patterns where they don't exist, 4 fucking entries doesn't allow you to draw any cohesive patterns, you're just grasping at straws here.
>>173411438
that looks disturbing
someone edit heart shaped pupils into her
>>173411683
If someone can refine the smile and do this then i'll fap to it
>>173411628
What, did he play goblin princess or something
>>173411731
I need evidence of your fapping on it
>>173411438
Fuck you, this sort of smile makes me feel hot and bothered
>>173411621
get a deck without thanes and eachtars but with cerbs i.e. aggro shadow
>>173411752
That and untargetable cards.
>>173410217
someone said that a few days ago actually. that's where i got this
>>173411683
>>173411809
That's just old DE face dragon with goblin princess, it doesn't sound that bad desu senpai
>>173409370
Why does Twisting Nether cost 8 mana and not 6 (or less)?
>Tsubaki
>Card that is popular in this meta for Sword
>takemybladeofresentment
Who the fuck thought this was good?
>>173411906
>>173411857
I AM NOT READY YET!
>>173411857
l-lewd
Remember when subhumams were bitching about a 5/7 storm on turn 5? I remember.
81557
Please concede
>>173411972
sauce pls
>>173411905
>All the cogs this guy draws
>>173411857
perfect
>>173412063
PLEASE
>>173411905
They really really really need to add this man as leader for (dirt) rune
>>173412020
>3 cards combo vs 1 card
>>173412073
i just save all the lewd crops posted,dont know the source sorry
>>173412146
>cant even wait a minute
Rude
>>173411323
Which sets were released at that time?
>>173411682
Well literally hundreds of cards and opportunities to go back.
But they dont.
>>173411857
>>173412186
>>173412073
>doesnt recognise shindol just from the thumbnail
>>173412063
thnx
Is Maelstrom Serpent safe to vial? I don't think CBlood will ever get proper support and they seem to suck as a combo.
>>173411808
g-got any good lists?
>pick D-shift for unranked
>opponent understand I'm playing it turn 2
>concedes
this shit happened 2 times in a row, I just want to play what the fuck
>>173412226
Because they don't see the need, you're just a heavily biased player pissed at something screwing you up. Of course you will paint it as the fucking devil, but they even tho still biased, they have ALL the info needed to make educated changes.
If with all that info they found out that changes were not needed, then there's no use screaming blood murder because old cards sometimes get better with a new set.
It is over, it is done
>>173411572
Yes, and every turn they manage to kill somebody with full board is OTK.
>>173412371
Not Master yet u lil bitch
>>173412371
What dick you using?
>>173412334
>play dshit
Kill yourself.
>>173412334
But noone wants to watch you play solitare
You play alone and your opponent watches you
>>173412371
>sword in DE
>sword/rune in RoB
>shadow in TotG
>>173412428
no, you go fuck yourself
Is there any Israfil fanart? what is her RoB card name?
>>173412334
Just boot up solitarie
>>173412510
Israfil
>>173412492
Almost
>Sword / Dirtrune in DE
>CSword / Dirturne / Nep in RoB
>Crapshoot sword / Shadow in ToG
>>173412423
Pushed the last 1k with communism, other than that Sword/Dirt all the way
>>173412371
congratz
fucking remove zell from the game
Join 38308 if you wanna see the new meta roach deck. Pick some good deck vs me for fun
fucking remove prince catacomb from the game
>>173412932
Tell me where his shota dick touched you.
>>173413000
I got you senpai
>>173411195
Salvation for all
>>173413059
ISRAFIL X ZELL DOUJINS FUCKING WHEN
ER is ded in this meta
What is the point of a reactive deck that can't answer dragon, haven, or shadow with saxon
>>173411195
>Nopan
>vaginabone windows enough to make Emmylou look tame
>>173413000
Nah, enjoy your skeletons anon.
>>173412370
Wait hold on, what are you even talking about now.
First of all, why am i biased, and why would i be biased.
2nd of all, what is screwing me up.
3rd. Who is screaming blood murder about old cards getting better, i merely stated they never nerf older cards, or rather, as you would like it stated: They have never to this date touched older cards when a new set of cards have been released.
Im not on anyone's side, im merely stating what is factual so far.
Would SV benefit from the addition of trap cards
>>173411857
>>173411905
>>173409370
>>173408865
>>173412087
>>/gbfg/
>>173412605
Tell me, why does she hold the violin
>>173413236
no, traps are gay
>>173412964
Fuck it my I can't post room is without the app crashing fuck cygames and apple
>>173413236
Only if they were offensive traps, like deal 10 damage to leader
>>173413236
Yes
>>173413236
How does trap cards work, can you post examples? This is my first CCG and I never watched yugioh before so I don't know.
>>173413334
>He bought an ipod
>>173411857
I feel it.
>>173413473
>Lay down trap card ahead of time
>It has conditions like F.E. when your leader is attacked
>When conditions are met you can choose to activate the trap card effect
>You 100% must yell "You've activated my trap card" when you do
>>173413473
>put down trap card
>its hidden until the conditions for triggering are met (play a spell,attack a follower etc)
>does thing when triggered
An example for rune would be a trap card that turns the next follower the opponent plays into a snowman or clay golem
SV would benefit from increasing board size to 7
>>173413673
>shadow becomes even more broken
Yes lets buff ghosts for no reason
>>173413673
>more skellies
>>173413673
>buffing shadow even more
kys
>>173413673
Yes.
>snek blood
>go second
>have the perfect starting hand to curve imp turn 2 moon turn 3 belph turn 4 baph turn 5 snek turn 6
>turn 2 draw snek
>turn 4 draw azazel
>belph draws second snek
>turn 5 draw third snek
is there anything more painful than having to play a enhanced baphomet that draws nothing?
>>173413582
>>173413609
Got it, thanks.
>>173413206
>Israfil is going commando
MUH
>>173413673
SV would benefit from a card that reduces board size
Imagine an amulet or follower that limits board size to 2 or 3
F U C K
U
C
K
HAVEN
>>173413941
>Imagine an amulet or follower that limits board size to 2 or 3
And kills the aggro even harder?
>>173414119
Isnt that a shame?
>>173414098
Gladly.
>>173414119
>kills the aggro even harder?
You say that like aggro hasn't been dominating the game for the last 2 expansions.
Playing Aggro Blood in comparison to Aggro Shadow now feels foolish
>>173411195
Not making her nuke whole cities out of existence would be a start.
STOP
STOP RIGHT NOW
DONT DO THAT
>>173413313
Stand-in for the trumpet.
>tfw have a better win rate with an 6k Neutralcraft deck than a 20k deck
please, concede!
38750
what do you guys think?
>>173415087
shit
>>173414872
She should've had a trumpet. It's much cooler than a violin.
>>173414889
post deck!
do you play it in ranked?
>>173415087
Instantly lose to dragon
Finally my opinion matters
>2017
>still playing blood
What's wrong with you people
>>173415182
I was trying to make it good vs dragon.
>>173415149
a better weapon too
>>173415087
Andras is shit m8.
i would use tyrant instead
>>173415087
This is the most retarded nep deck I've seen so far
Do you even know how nep works?
>login after a 3 day hiatus
>dailies are just 3 games
>all 3 games were shadow bumrushing me
>thankfully i was playing control healing centric memes in anticipation
>two of them were BM retards whenever they swung the board and instantly conceded to keep spamming their cancer in unranked further
It was fun while it lasted, but this game was too soft in the end. It didn't go full retard making old cards useless or straight up banning them like YGO and it will never surpass HS despite all the blunders Blizzard makes.
I really wanted to like this game, but they failed to deliver interesting mechanics and it truly has managed to get bad enough that I can't even be bothered to login, do dailies and fuck off even if it takes me less than an hour. When I do, it's just a chore and not fun at all despite having like 99% of all cards with playsets.
This game needs a miracle to make it on the long run.
would you ding her dong?
>>173415218
Literally nothing wrong with that.
>>173415337
subscribed
I NEED TO
I NEED TO WIN WITH FOREST
>>173415071
trade concede plz
>>173415365
Yes
>>173415449
That's a big dong.
>>173415071
thank you, erika!
>>173415337
hiddit
>>173415429
nvm, need a concede
63770
>aegis haven
>aegis haven
>aegis haven
>aggro shadow
>ramp dragon with 10 mana turn 5
IM ABOUT TO END IT ALL
whats the most stable forest and sword lists now, I got quests for them
>>173415242
She nukes things, what does the shape of the nuke button matter.
>>173415429
post room then
>>173415337
You have to go back.
Why's this general so mad all of a sudden?
>Finally decide to hop back into ranked with storm haven
>dragons everywhere just rushing to 10pp while healing off all your damage
This game was fun like 3 weeks ago
>>173415546
Thanks vampy
>>173415657
How many master points you at?
>>173415628
dunno, but it's much shittier than a couple of months ago
>>173415574
Sword is the old mid-range or pepe
>>173415657
>ranked
>storm haven
Alright lads, what do you think of this?
>>173415814
It was legit last expansion. Maybe he's running a modified version with the new -1 countdown amulet.
Dragonbabs cant handle my waifu.
>>173415373
post dick
>when you are playing blood
>>173415948
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.6.6F6FS.6F6FS.6F6FS.5_pzw.5_pzw.6BIrA.6BIrA.6BIrA.6F6kY.6F6kY.6F6kY.68zBM.68zBM.6CsCi.6CsCi.6F9Ao.6F9Ao.6F9Ao.5_pFg.5_pFg.5_pFg.63iH0.63iH0.63iH0.6FB7o.6FB7o.61O4U.61O4U.63i_Q.63i_Q.63i_Q.63fqw.6FB7y.6FB7y.6FB7y.63i_a.63i_a.63i_a.694Vo.694Vo
>>173415804
this is a shit forest list
the best it's wolfbolt with triple crystalia airin
>>173415824
No Urd and Carrotman? You could also try fitting in an Olivia.
>>173416079
holy shit that's a greedy ass deck
>>173415560
Was Daria/Levin meta a better time huh?
>>173411120
He does. Have you even played the game?
I thought aegis+test of strength was strong?
>>173416282
>a combo that only works when you're at 20 def
>>173416282
Not when piloted by any retards who let Mary live past even one turn.
>>173415087
>literally nothing of value from Nep pull except Mord and maybe Khawy
Are you actually retarded?
>>173416282
I actually survived getting double test of strengthed with aegis up once
Unica was the MVP of that win
Roach teaches dragons to be humble
>>173416357
>>173416383
implying it matters when he can odin the test
Only playing unranked with meme decks makes this game quite fun.
>>173416596
The hag's HP is 10 because of Azazel, banishing the test won't make a damn difference.
>>173416604
Are you me? Not sure what I'll do once I get all crafts to 100 though. There's nothing to do but chase flairs after that.
>>173416218
One could argue that, yes, if only because Daria and Roach played very little in the way of healing, wards, and other things that would prevent them from dying like everyone else does.
>>173416604
>not playing memes in ranked anyway
>>173416712
Don't you see the green 1? She was at 9hp before Azazel.
>>173416773
You sound like an aggro bab
Good riddance, people like you are why we cant have a nice control meta
>>173416870
losing every single game isn't particularly fun
>>173416874
Oh right, that was retarded of me.
>>173416903
>30 minute match meta
How the hell do you beat ramp dragon and aggro shadow? Don't tell me to play one or the other either.
>tfw you outvalue the satan deck
>tfw his plays get slower and slower
>>173417091
Draw perfectly and hope he doesn't unica/grimnir/rahab/sybil/salamander you.
>>173417091
Aegis you need to get lucky against blood but 50% is what says...
>>173416939
But anon, just imagine the face of your opponent when you drop and Atomeme with Mammoth and Elta on turn 4, or delete a Dragonbab's 20 HP in one turn with a swole Pepe and Arietta. Doing them in ranked makes it all the more exciting.
so, looking that tourney stuff https://sv.j-cg.com/compe/view/tour/244 it seems midrange is much more resilient because i don't see any aggro that went to the end
also is it weird that the list that i like the most (i would add dod there anyway and probably lyrial instead of soulsquasher) it's of some guy (こば) who lost in quarterfinals, losing with that deck to aegis
i certainly dislike the tourney winner's midrange without howl and with lurching/necroassassin
FUCK YURIUS REEEEEEEE
>>173417270
Atomy is hardly a meme anymore. That deck is just overshadowed by how ridiculous aggro and midrange shadow are.
>>173417091
Play Midrange Shadow.
>>173417329
Out fucking skilled.
>>173417201
Isn't Aegis shit against ramp dragon?
>>173417329
Get fucked, leddit.
>>173417459
It's good against the greedy sahaluci ones. It has an unfavorable matchup against storm ramp though.
>>173417329
>went first
>still lost
just kill yourself my dude
>>173417329
FUCKING OUTSKILLED
http://usamin.love/card/demonlord_eachtar/j_summon.wav
>>173417329
Out
Fucking
Skilled
>>173417459
You just need to know how to play against
>>173417612
seize the production of vials
http://usamin.love/sv.html#orthrus
She already has lines for Cerberus
>prep winning against storm ramp dragon with neph
wew
>>173417802
seize the means of production sounds as a soulsquasher's line if anything
Is Soul Dealer a meme or actually good now? I don't want to regret spending my vials on him.
>>173417829
>pet play.
My dick is diamonds.
>>173417897
I'd definitely let her seize my means of reproduction.
>>173417318
Aggro is very easy to counter and tech against, it's only so strong right now due to Dragons making it impossible to tech against both. Midrange is fucked up though, it doesn't help that the deck can be very flexible and has many variations.
>>173417829
Her barks are literally better than the jap dub.
>>173416903
On the contrary - I dislike aggro play styles and always default to midrange or control myself unless the game environment straight up doesn't allow it. The problem is that the vast majority of midrange and control decks in this game are still not viable, because they went from dying to turn 5 Daria nut draws to Dragon's turn 7 burst that makes even the pre-nerf Roach decks look like a fucking joke, else they're getting steamrolled by Shadow variants that can't be contested in terms of raw individual card value.
>>173417829
>Orthrus has arrived
>>173417318
>lyrial over soulsquasher
This is why you're still in D rank.
>>173418094
>everything is better in the jap dub
ftfy
>>173417964
don't craft him but yes soul dealer is meta now
>>173418240
If he's meta now then why shouldn't I craft him?
>>173418312
because you will regret
>>173418094
>those shitty bark
>better than FAYA DE ARIMASU
>>173417964
Literally just won a tournament.
https://sv.j-cg.com/compe/view/match/244/48534/
Click leader icon to see deck.
Why does every forest deck look the fucking same cygamessssss
>>173417042
Literally impossible in shadowverse. This isnt hearthstone where decks that win by taking 16 fatigue damage are viable
>>173418624
>the last expansion just added 7 new cards to the deck
>and forest have a second win-con with wolf+bolt
>>173417329
>someone playing ungabats this expansion
for what purpose?
how do you guys muster the will to grind? i'm 2k points away from aa2 and masters feels like an eternity away
>>173417970
http://usamin.love/card/little_soulsquasher/j_attack.wav
>>173417964
If you want to rape dragon, but be raped by shadow, then yes, soul dealer deck is pretty cool.
>>173417829
>>173418193
>Orthurus has arrived
Explain yourselves dubcucks
>>173418754
Cherish this stage. Once you get master ranking, there's nothing but emptiness.
>>173418839
>not wanting to be inspired when your proud commissar arrives to raise morale
>>173418754
Just be urself and hit that matchmaking button.
>>173418193
kys
dub
cuck
>>173418194
she eats shadows that you need for breath/howl/eachtar
does nothing to an unevolved follower
usually when you play her on curve you don't have enough shadows too
>>173418609
>https://sv.j-cg.com/compe/view/match/244/48534/
what the fuck is this haven deck
he doesn't even have fucking cudgels, what's going on
>>173418604
>Badly pronounced Engrish is better than cute barking
Weeaboos are mentally ill
Post rare loading screens
>>173418985
i guess to win such a tourney is largely luck
>playing against dragon as aggro shadow
>get him to 2hp
>have rabbit necromancer and some other followers on board
>he plays conflagration
>faceshadow unga braindead fuckers all the time
>make banishcraft teched vs aggro
>dshit
>dragon
>dshit
>dshit
>midrange shadow which outvalues me
>dragon
not rigged my ass
>>173419013
>implying it isn't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WyaysYQoFI&feature=youtu.be&t=19
kys dubcuck
This is your hand for the night.
>>173419051
>>173419145
Pure coincidence.
>>173419051
i would love to watch how she swallows an idea
>>173419204
you know, with all the shadows catacomb generates, isn't this card kind of good?
>>173418985
>>173418609
>dark jeanne
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>173419051
I've never seen a single legendary loading screen
hey guys, why can't i filter this trash >>173419240
>>173419343
yeah
>>173419343
Have you tried checking your 4chanX settings and updating the script?
Is it worth it to craft Aegis right now? How does the deck fare against the meta?
>>173419145
>Play control
>Raced down by aggro shadow every game
>Get tilted, switch to pepe
>Every game is Haven
Literally rigged.
>>173419506
It's literally the counter to every meta deck.
69960 concede please if someone has the time.
Anyone else actually like this meta more than RoB and DE? Midrange Shadow is really strong but you can win against them with the right hand. Dragon is pretty bullshit but they are still weak to early aggression when they don't have oracle and Rahab on curve.
DE was full of Dshit, Elana Haven and PtP forest. I hated that meta the most. 3 of 4 meta decks are cancer to play against.
RoB we had turn 4 Levi+Piercing+Sorcery+0PP Ogler/Blade Mage/Emmy. Literally nothing can win against that shit.
>>173419282
Probably not. 4 shadows is not a small amount, even if you do generate a lot. If midrange, you want them for DB and Eachtar. If aggro, you don't wanna risk not having enough for howl.
Also if you play it on T2, you do nothing. It's an amulet, so it also takes up board space.
>>173419282
Board space is an issue and you have no trouble generating tokens anyway. This card is very good in T2 though.
>>173419521
implying pepe doesn't lose to aggro
>>173419597
I like it a hell of a lot more than DE.
t.shadowbab
>>173419597
i like this meta way more they just need to calm down shadow
>>173419653
the good part of that card it's that the zombies have pseudo-storm
>>173419597
RoB after the nerf was fine. The only thing I absolutely hated was Albert.
I hate too many things in this meta.
>make dragon deck to get rowen to lvl 100 in masters
>mulligan entire hand
>get this multiverse buster brick
Nice game shadowbabs.
>>173406924
This is the same reasoning /svg/ used to say that Sybil was bad and counter intuitive for ramping. You'd think that after getting BTFO for the last week you'd stop spouting that shit.
Do Aegis decks run 2 or 3 copies?
>>173419597
I like it more but that might be because Shadow is my favourite craft.
I'm having a lot of fun with Dirtrune, though. Its a cool deck.
>>173419825
Ramp up those eggs.
>>173419825
>brick
>still win
>complain anyway
>>173419882
>Dirtrune
How? Your board just get deleted my Bahamut.
Big guy killed by the 3pp storm+bane on overflow.
>>173419836
2 can do fine desu.
but i would wait more desu craft expensive shit can be dumb
>>173419943
but it took effort!
>>173419943
>>173419919
Haven't won but thankfully this havencuck hasn't done much either.
>>173419919
>>173419943
Stop replying to yourself you autist
>>173418754
I really liked playing my deck.
What's the best mid/control sword list right now? I'm bored of playing Pepe, and I feel bad letting my legends sit unused.
>>173420081
the "mid" sword list with grimnir and luminous mage thrown in is good right now
>>173420016
Not me, best buddy.
>>173419597
Post-nerf RoB meta wasn't too bad except for the Dragon vs Shadow matchup.
>>173418754
Dont grind, just play whatever decks you like
>>173419272
I would love to watch Vampy swallow something of mine too
http://svdb.ze.am/v/card/ja/vo_103021020_7_103011030.wav
>>173420243
Gobu talking to Feena is cuter.
>>173420227
Why don't you have a seat, anon?
>3 expansions later
>entire deck archtype getting heavily powercreeped & relegated to tier 3 status
>/svg/ STILL whines about it
do you think that the tongue of another serpent looks like the main one has a hand and makes that "whatever" gesture
>>173420346
Kill yourself. Go play Dshit in Hearthstone.
>>173420346
I'm going to shit on dshift every day until they remove it
>>173420408
No..no I don't dude..
>>173420453
They may as well have removed it desu, ladder is infested with storm ramp and aggro shadow
>>173420346
>guaranteed dshift draw on turn 1
>enchanted blade with stormfaggotry guarantees lethal with dshift
>ginger guarantees lethal with dshift
>Trust me guys Dimension shift is garbage, dont tech against it :^)!
Wew
>>173420453
Man what a baby? Can you even grow a beard?
>>173405197
They could make it so it doesn't fucking stack on itself.
>>173420627
>someone actually complaining about ginger
>>173420674
>Vampyshitter complaining about anything
Get back in your hole.
>>173420451
>>173420453
>>173420627
Show the kind officer on the doll where Daria touched you
>>173420703
I know rune players are rare and all but they either play daria or ginger dshift
Burn rune is a reddit exclusive meme deck
>clearing him with themis is actually a -1 in card advantage
EPIC, JUST EPIC CARD DESIGN CYGAMES
>>173420627
>guaranteed dshift draw on turn 1
What did he meme by this?
>>173420867
>m-muh Themis
>>173420867
>complaining about a 7pp do nothing
Hagfag please go.
>>173420867
http://usamin.love/card/immortal_thane/e_summon.wav
>>173420867
>using a board clear on a single follower
>as haven
What did he meme by this?
>>173420867
It's okay because shadow is dead
>>173419653
Had a guy lose to me in t2 because it ate all his shadows.
Are Bloodfags killed? There're literally no Blood in ranked right now.
>>173421108
>single follower
>>173421173
I faced a control bloodfag earlier but I lightning blasted his snek and he ragequit immediately.
>>173421173
Is possible to kill something that died in release?
>>173421173
I still see blood players trying to clobber together with that dealer deck. I don't get why they insist on killing themselves for me.
>>173421078
kys
dub
cuck
>>173421173
kys blood won the latest jcg
>>173421173
>>173421235
>>173421267
Fuck you guys we will be back
>>173421027
>>173421070
>>173421108
>8/7 worth of stats
>one card board flood
>turns whole board into rabbit necromancer
>floats into a free 4/5 ward with bane
>combos with eachtar for minimum 18 damage
but it's ok, pedofags will defend it cause it's just a 7 pp do nothing xDDDD
Quick, this decides my game. Does Grimmir wipe out Catacomb's death spawns since it's 4 swipes or does he kill all the originals and still spawn the skeletons after the effect?
You know what's the really sad thing about this meta? All these pricks using Mordecai as their leader to play shitty aggro decks. Poor guy would be spinning in his grave, if he could stay dead.
It's funny how weak satan as a wincon has become
18968
Could someone concede to me, please? If you need a match completed just let me kill you normally.
XD
totally epic!!!!
>>173421173
>is blood dead? literally no blood
>literally
>no blood
>LITERALLY DEAD
Looks like you're too low rank to see them :^)
>>173421358
You guys just need to cry like dragon and blood keks
>>173421384
>no storm no rush no ward
>not "do nothing"
Just themis bro
>>173421532
>dshift
Lel you can run winter caprice if it bother you so much.
>>173421543
>700+ wins in a little over a week
Do these guys even sleep?
>>173421543
>only 1 retard playing with blood in secretus club
>6/6 Aerin is removed by pedonigger just by using 4 shadow
Very good card design Cygames.
If I don't trade with small follower, they will get insane value from Prince/Eacthar.
If I evolve trade I get punished by Lolisquasher
Can't fucking wait until they nerf 4-5 shadow cards at the same time.
Trying to make a nightfall mage + pascale rape deck.
Give suggestions how to maybe improve.
Yes it shit against haven, but so is all dirt rune versions.
>>173421452
but if they play eachtar and thane it's ok :^)
>>173421514
Thanks, Mom.
>>173421563
DUDE
JUST THEMIS BRO
LMAOOOOOOO
>>173421459
>we want to make the meta slower
>oops even satan is too slow now
>>173418754
i don't, i just play casually when i'm in the bottom of the rank. i'll just do my dailies in ranked whenver it is possible + a few more games per day if i feel up to it.
after a while i'll rise to the top and i start giving a shit when i'm about 1k points away, and that's when i start "grinding".
>>173405202
>>173405107
>Hitting Orthrus
The fuck for? Just make Catacomb not affect himself.
>>173421532
Get fucked cancer.
>>173421543
blood player has the shittiest emblem, dragonshitter has the coolest
y
>>173421664
>only 1
Dont make me round up the numbers from the top 96 people for all 4 crafts shown there
>>173421436
I'm sure you've realized by now but no, he doesn't clear the skeletons. Shadow would be slightly less overpowered otherwise.
>>173421654
Sleeping is for the weak. Bragging rights (and there is that yet to be announced 100/1000 reward thing) is the in-thing.
>>173421671
Many have learned not to evolve-trade with their wards. Start learning that too, forestfucker.
>>173421710
One card creating a whole board is always cancer
>>173421807
I found out the hard way. Got me down to 5 HP but I topdecked more Grims.
>>173421807
Friendly reminder to ignore him, newfriend.
>>173421710
>didn't have forbidden ritual
Does he even chemo?
>>173421384
You're wasting your time arguing with anyone on this board. They'll just spam "Just X bro xD" to invalidate any argument to why their class is broken and the majority of the shitposters here are either shadow players
Just stop whining about it and keep working on your deck
>>173421671
shitter uses a cancerous do everything always good card that heals, has a ward and restores an evolve orb
whines that it can be destroyed with a situational card
>>173421710
Watching this thread after thread. It kinda makes me want to quit this game.
>>173421710
Disgusting. Tumopedors should die
>>173421674
You're running too many sigils.
Since you only have 6 (8 if you count big guy) consumers you don't need that many.
Especially if you mulligan for dwarf.
Since it heavily relies on you getting the combo, drop some of those sigils, for spells, Commence Experiment over Scrap Iron and so on.
Then once you've loaded up a bit more with spells, grab some key spellboosts like Fate's hand and Wind blast.
If you want even more consistency get Merlin as well. The Merlin/FateHand engine is very potent.
>>173421543
>check the ratings
>everyone using a variety of flairs
>meanwhile at forest everyone is using [FOREST NIGGER]
>>173421879
one card destroying it is perfectly healthy though :^)
>there are people, IN THIS VERY THREAD, that thought Zell was not going to be a humongous pain in the ass.
>tfw shadow is a skill-less #freewins aggro deck
>tfw no cerbs to join in on the cancer
Is this Cygames jew scheme to get me to buy the basic sets?It's almost working.
How to fix the game:
Remove storm
>>173422304
Just craft them, you can get away with only running 2
>>173422304
>skill-less
I hope you enjoy getting forbidden ritual up your ass.
>>173422247
>not using superior rose queen flair
2pp
1 4 ward
and you guys complained about Yurius...
Need daily concede, thanks.
ID 28811
>>173405478
Yes, that one small changes can make heaps of a difference
>t3 Catacomb on a 2/2 is no longer crippling, not even that strong
>t3 Catacomb on 1/2 and 2/2 isn't an instant monopoly of the board, but still strong.
>>173422274
It is because they have no tempo going into next turn dumbfuck
>queue unranked
>queue into 4 (FOUR) back to back fortes
>they all have the 80 gorillion dust decks
>they all spam bm as they kill my shit
>because dropping ouros and sibyls and angel chick into bahamut + zell against my goblins and carrots is so le ebin
jesus christ i just want one fucking win why are these tards shitting up unranked if they have totally refined decks reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. I'm so bummed. just need to get one more win with Forest for this mission, I have no forest cards (newfag) so I made a neutralcraft deck. I don't have that much dust but I thinking about crafting roaches...
Dshift cant handle the big girls.
Season 2 bois!
Screw Dragon
>>173421543
>>173422512
>700 wins+
>One week into the month
I guess being a NEET autist has some upsides
>>173405189
yes because killing the card outright is the optimal solution
>>173422638
>>173422638
use pascale on magical big guy next
Could midrange banner sword work?
>>173422818
Didnt draw him.
And its kinda hard to get him to survive against anything not dshift.
Nightfall mage is much easier to boku boku up unless its haven.
>>173422638
>dshift cancer would rather concede than use crimson sorcery on a follower
>>173422860
no you want to pull or banner or albert
>>173422860
i dont think it would work in this meta
banner requires minion spam
sword minion spam is worse than shadow minion spam, and loses to all the same counters which are in every other deck right now
Is this the refined Shadow list?
I don't have some of these cards (or not the required amount)
What can I do?
>>173421710
>>173422087
>make op cards
>lmao just give everyone spot removal and boardwipes
>nothing ever sticks
>lmao make single card board fills to trade evenly or positively against boardwipes
>>173422190
hmm will try.
Might also put in CC to counter shadow more.
to bad I only got 1 merlin.
>>173419597
it's ok. i'd probably have more fun if i had more decks to choose from. i think it'll get bette as the people get more cards and more decks.
i miss the old dirtrune.
Play maid t2 or lancer or 2pp ping evolve?
How are you guys dealing with dragon on the ladder? I can't win any games against them with my blood and haven decks.
>>173423009
>Wraith
Gee I sure wonder what big well thought play he will do next turnand get fucked over by my bolt
>>173423135
Well I'm new so I don't know, what IS the refined Shadow list then?
Do people in this general agree upon it yet? Was it posted?
>>173423009
>wraith
How to spot a netdecker
>>173423220
replace wraith with eachtar and you'll be fine.
>>173423009
Core gold/legendary are 3 reapers, cerberus and phantom howls. The rest are bronze and silvers
>>173423075
You shouldn't run more than 1 Merlin in dirt anyway.
One thing that I didn't consider is that the reason Fate's hand engine works is because of all the conjure guardian spells you generate as dirt.
That and the fact that this engine clashes with Mevlie, since I found that I always have a full hand when I run it.
Experiment whether you can get those cheap 0-2pp fate's hands.
If not, maybe stick with Melvie.
>>173423114
Win with your shadow deck or play unranked.
Are Shadowverse characters going to be in the new GBF anime or the new Bahamut: Virgin Soul?
>>173421710
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
>>173423297
They already are
>>173423135
Wraith is like Tenacious Ghost on crack and is a near guaranteed 7 damage to face.
>>173423297
Bahamut
You'd be lucky if you saw forte for a second in granblue
>>173423286
Thanks. Will do.
Pascale dirt is really fun. especially if I get it on curve.
>>173423009
>>173423283
>needing more than 1 phantom howl
>>173423204
I love the pause whenever this happens
>>173422860
why do you have to remind me
>>173423772
Why Moon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRNa0mvm9Gc
just clear the board bro
>>173423009
I replaced Wraith with Grimnir because why the fuck not.
>>173423772
>evolve point on T10
>that random ass hand
>opponent obviously don't know how card work, since he killed her instead of banishing
hello B0
>>173424195
>needing to use evos in haven mirror
F-Zero?
the dragonshills in this thread are ridicolous, you're not going to save it from nerfs
>>173424195
>aegis not hitting face
>Ever
He evolved kaguya and suicided her into aegis
Guys I want to play wolfbolt. Do I need 3 wolves or can I make do with just 2?
>>173423901
Best girl
>>173424195
>random hand
>in a game with random card draw
Beginner 0
>>173424313
>implying it matters when your winrate is going to be 0% anyway
>>173424195
>opponent obviously don't know how card work, since he killed her instead of banishing
you can't banish it if I suicide her into aegis right away dummy.
>>173423973
I just like her.
>>173424313
2 wolves 2 bolts is fine
Rest is just standard roach
>>173424383
Already got the monthly sleeves and I don't give a shit about the monthly master rankings.
>>173423772
>tfw Kaguya is your card waifu
>she canonically dumps the player in the lore
>>173424313
2Wolf3Bolt is the most popular version.
You also run the roach package to get the chip needed/control the board
>>173424383
>wolfbolt
>the deck with most winrate for forest
>0%
Well this is lucky. I have both an animated Aegis and Sybil now.
Shame I prefer MidShadow, would much rather an animated Eachtar.
>>173424271
>he doesn't know that you need to kill leader to win the game
hello dog?
>>173424378
this is a shit deck used by people who have no idea how to build one
stop defending your stupidity, faggot
>>173424397
>you can't banish it if I suicide her into aegis right away dummy.
we don't know how it went, shitter
>>173424715
why are you even posting lmao
Why is everyone running Lyria? Is she really worth an evo point?
>>173424715
>he thinks that I'm the guy playing the deck just because I disagreed with him on what cards are in it
Stay mad, okay?
>Tfw the opposing shadow player is already playing damage control turn 2 and you know the game is in the bag
>>173424715
>we don't know how it went
Except it's bloody obvious
>>173424805
how new are you
Need a concede please
85743
>>173424648
Forest is literally unable to win in this meta. It's not 10%. It's not 5%. It's 0%.
If your opponent knows what they're doing, and is playing dragon or shadow, they will ALWAYS beat a forest player.
>>173424861
that's how you play the aggro shadow mirror though, you have to know when to trade
Trying to do my dailies with a budget blood deck is like pulling a cactus out my dick god damn
My only deck for haven is storm, what has ToG given them? I could see perhaps candelabra, judge, Sonia, or grail.
>>173425034
Just rope until you get a concede
>>173424950
What deck are you playing
>>173424884
Can you just answer the question or fuck off?
>>173424950
>unable to win
>still over 50% with both wolfbolt and roach
What did he mean by this?
>>173424824
if you are not this guy that posted this retarded shit, then you just like him - another shitter with shitty opinion.
kys yourself
>>173424950
Just because you're shit at the game doesn't mean the deck is bad. You may have a zero percent win rate but the deck does not.
>>173425006
he clearly did not
>swordfag nuked my skellies with a humpty dumpty in ranked
for a second there i thought this would be legit, but then i just outdrew him.
>>173424614
Roach package? You mean Gobu and Feena?
>>173424921
pls ;_;
>>173425206
>if you disagree, you're a shitter
Not an argument. Dismissed.
>±100 on win/lose
>in a fucking RNG card game
Who the fuck thought this was a good idea?
>>173425034
Aggro Blood can still pick up wins relatively easily. Try playing a budget dragon deck with no legendaries at all.
>>173425201
It means he lost every single game he's played and he's crying about it to anonymous posters who will just laugh at him for being shit. I don't know what he gets out of it, certainly not sympathy.
>>173425285
Do you think you're cool for learning how to use meme arrows? I get it, they're exciting, but you don't need to use them in every post.
>>173424950
at least pass the rank B2
>>173425247
Roach package in my opinion is
>Roach
>EPM
>Fairy Whisperer(Optional)
>Guidance
>Gobu
>Feena
>>173424950
If by "knows what they're doing" you mean "goes first", then I agree
>forest shitter drops 1 of these every turn
>bounces back to hand and plays it again
>Cant clear her board
>I lose by T5
FUCK THIS CARD
>>173425468
>unironically losing to forest
I bet you're a virgin too, you fucking failure.
>>173425261
>>173424921
Thanks Ozzie bro!
>playing tarzan forest
>lost to a fucking retard hag running every taunt card haven can possibly run
>on top of neutral classics such as goblinmount, angelic sword maiden, goblin princess
Can't play non-unga blood. Can't play a forest archetype that hasn't been around for half a year already.
I'm actually done with this game.
Please concede
64955
>>173424805
Lyrial is good for sword because sword has a lot of 1/1 tokens which helps you trade with the ping from lyrial. She is also a good evolve target for going first. Necro uses lyrial becsuse they dont have a good t4 drop and she combos well with conjurer.
This might actually be the worst general on this board right now
>>173425364
I'm running Pegasus and the new Crystalia 3 copies of each for board control, but have difficulty chipping. How does the roach set deal with dragon's followers?
>>173425535
WHO IS THIS SEMEN DEMON?
>>173425468
t. rune player
Burn rune is such a good deck huh?
>>173425523
Np sword friend
>>173425528
Kys blood is aggro deck better than ungablood and isn't unga. Get with times grandpa.
>>173425572
(cont.)
Shadow in tog has orthas for 4 drop so we are seeing less lyrial now.
>>173425672
>Blood is better than blood
???????
>>173425672
Ok ESL-kun
>>173425574
>he doesn't know about scv
>>173425535
Thanks, Skeleton lolisquisher
>>173425574
Why? Nobody replied to your shitty question? Lurk more
New bread when ready
>>173425796
>>173425796
>>173425796
>>173425574
You are obviously >>173424950 and no, crying about it won't stop you from being shit.
Does Luna know what sex is?
>>173423901
Man, I remember when I just stood there like a re-re without attacking her once she kills that baby in the forest because I didn't wanna fight but the game forces you to. Gotta go back and finish that game next week.
>>173425575
The issue against dragon is the huge amount of healing they have so any chip you deal will get healed back.
You might be better off using 0cost bolts to make BIG roach combos.
>>173425768
This
the starcraft general has been the worst one since /vg/ was made
100% of the time their OP is just: an image of the k-pop general from /mu/+link to a gook stream
>>173425908
Implying you actually survive and dragon doesn't threaten lethal when you play wolf and have 1000 wards up
>>173425908
Before I ran pegasus and crystalia, my roaches had to be used just to clear board, I don't think the 9 cost bolt roach combo is very easy to do.
59023
Concede please.
Roach math is easy, but if there are wards in the way it becomes hard af
>>173426275
With a full power 0Bolt you only need to deal 11 damage and you start with 1 card up
So you only really need to play 3 more cards
That's not really that difficult
>Fiary fairy fairy Roach Roach = 5+6
>Fairy faiiry fairy Roach bounce Roach = 5+7
>Roach bounce Roach Roach = 2+4+5
Not that difficult, the wards are the problem
>>173425575
You need to evolve a big thicc soccer mom to kill sibyl so he doesnt get the heal off. If he plays rehab sibyl salamander sibyl saha israel then you concede.
fuck isra honestly, broken ass card
>>173426584
Can you show me your build?
>>173426572
Most decent players know to save wards. But sometimes you meet some dumb havens who dump all his wards before t4 and let you otk him on turn 8.
>>173426863
Don't have one at the moment as I don't have Wolves.
Instead I'm running Rose Queen and experimenting with what works against shadow.
>>173427032
I'd give up on that. I tried to make her possible, got frustrated and vialed her down to 1 copy.
>>173427353
It's too fun to win with her, you gotta have dedication to your waifu.
>only costs 2 mana
explain this shadowtards
>>173427497
Nobody plays blood so its okay
>>173427670
i play aggro blood and win fairly consistently
ROGUES CREED WORKS WITH FROG AAAAAAHHHHH
>>173428105
Only if you play them in the right order.
So new player here i want to play sword and i found this decklist should i invest in or there's a better sword list somewhere ?
>>173428460
There is always a better list for everything anon but you WILL need to buy all three Alberts for ANY sword deck at this point.
>>173428460
If you're new I'd recommend Banner or Pepe. They are basically the cheapest competitive decks in sword.
The list you have doesn't look very tuned to me (AA1, so others probably know better). Pompous Princess, Lecia, and Avant Blader don't add much to this list IMO. Maid Leader is also a weak pick. Aggro Sword lists tend to run it to tutor Albert, but you're got other targets it can pull. If you're playing Monika you probably want Luminous Mage to afford the evolves.
If you're going to invest in sword anyways, Albert is by far the best craft. After that Alwida's. Basically every deck plays 3x of each.
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triple albert is the most important
then triple alwida's command i think, they fit in any sword deck and are very versatile cards
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So craft two albert since i already have one and triple alwida's command a lsoc you show me a Pepe or Banner list please
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There's lots of different pepe lists. Basically you just play vagabond frog and buff the shit out of it. Since they can't clear it, you can beat down face without allowing them to trade. The only officer you play is vagabond frog, so conscription is guaranteed to pull him out. Cyclone Blade clears the board so you don't die, and also gets rid of taunts. This list plays a lot of neutral followers to deal with early game aggro. Some people prefer more buff cards like White General and Forge Weaponry instead. Experiment and find out what works for you. This list isn't very refined, but it's served me pretty well in AA1.
The main problem with Pepe is that you basically autolose to haven, since they have Trial and Themis.
>prince catacomb player is shitting on me forcing me to clear board and use all evo points
>i have 6 health and he has 20
>grail pops and get damnation
>pic related
>reduce him to 1 health via damnation
>-19 nut
>attack with 1/2 protector
Every catacomb player deserves this :D