/r6g/ - Rainbow Six General

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>>173184168
First for Doc Posters

Second for IQ needs M870.

>>173184618
and a shield

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4 for sakuya

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5 for August soon

>>173184618
>needs

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7th for doggos.

What's IQ's IQ?

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>>173184765
>tfw want GROM badly
why the fuck did they have to waste our time with worthless gooks instead of actual european operators?

>tfw no spiderman attack OP

>>173184959

95, the upper limit for a woman.

>>173184168
Should bipods be an attachment for LMGs?

>>173185058
>he fell for the grom meme

Pathetic.

>play console for first time on friend's account
>level 7
>MVP every game but one and watch people suck at aiming
>ace against shitty clan team
>last kill was a wallbang because the guy tried to blow up my jammed wall
>"fucking hacker faggot"
>"nice kill you cheating cunt"

it was fun though

>>173185058

Chinks and gooks face bigger threats than slavshit meme CTUs that don't even allow muslims in their country.

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>>173184765
What map do you think we'll get?

inb4 Church

>>173185058
I think Hong Kong could be interesting... except for that leaked map.

Korea could be cool too desu

Honestly I'm just happy we're getting GROM at all. Imagine getting just 20 more american ctu's

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>>173185058
>expecting poorland to be any better

typical eurocuck, we should've nuked you guys by now.

>>173185212

More attachment options are always nice but I don't see them doing anything for LMG pick rates.

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>>173185228
>>173185335
>>173185395

>it begins

TS was a mistake

>>173185058
>being excited for GROM

Meme CTU. Shit CTU.

>>173185058
>white boy calling anyone worthless

>>173185335
>>173185395
>>173185610
>t. Ching Chong-Un
Go back to picking rice

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>>173184765

I'd rather have another American CTU than fucking GROM, to be honest. I know a lot of people say that GROM is a meme CTU, but, no kidding, it seriously is. Only autists would be excited for GROM. Not joking.

>>173185792
>being so touchy that we called him out on his slavshit meme CTU
>"y-you're just gooks!"

Typical eurocuck. Seriously, we need to nuke your sorry asses soon.

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>tfw grom already creates so much butthurt with jelly spergs
>tfw I imagine what it's gonna be once their season actually starts

So any info on HK yet

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>>173185792
>you will never be a triggered GROMautist

Thank God.

>>173186057
New map is called Theme Park, likely based on Hong Kong's Ocean Park. That's all we know thus far.

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>>173186057
Yeah read previous thread

>>173184517
She doesn't suck, she just needs a buff.

>>173186051

t. poorland resident

>>173186051
At least there aren't that many anons on here who are actually from Poland. If Ubi had announced Australia or India you can bet your sweet ass it'd be nothing but memes for miles.

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>>173186206
>amusement park level

muh dick

>>173185943
Go ahead, I'm not even european. I just like slavshit much, much more than gook meme squads

So with Blitz's hitbox and flash/shoot delay fixed, will he finally be fixed enough to be competent in play? Or are there still problems in his core design?
What do you guys think?

>>173186487
>tries to call the gooks meme squads
>excited for GROM

holy fuck lmao

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>>173186318
No shit sherlock,
And thank God for that

>>173186051
Have what happen to Poland? A good economy?

>>173186692
>proud to be a poorland resident

We've hit dangerous levels of autism here, folks.

>>173186206
>Hong Kong's Ocean Park
nice

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>>173186206
I shouldn't make assumptions since we don't know what it'll actually be but Ocean Park has a cable car and a aquariom and this sounds amazing for a map.

>>173186828
>Secure point in moving cable car

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>>173186828

Dude, imagine the inside of that cable car station in a night version of the map.

>>173186828
>Dude he's behind the cable car
>Which cable car?
>THAT ONE RIGHT THERE
I can already see it.

>despite being on the right server and knowing i'm at ~40ms, uplay still displays 200-300ms after changing the server manually
>get votekicked because of bad ping half the time

nice fucking game

>>173185058
I'd rather see the czech and belgians alongside the poles too

I know the belgians have become a turbocuck nation but dat FN tho

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can someone please explain why everyone is so hype for GROM? i swear i've never seen hype levels like this before, even for the japs when this place is full of weebs (for obvious reasons). for some of the other CTU there's a least some thing that most of the other CTU's are known for that would make you want to play them (SAS because embassy siege, spetsnaz because beslan/moscow theatre, navy seals because americans love that shit etc.) but when it comes to GROM there is literally no reason to be this hype for them. GROM have done fuckall, pretty much since they're creation.

the only reason why i can think that people would be hype for this would either be because they're the only CTU from a white country this year, or they themselves are polish (and even then i don't think there's enough poles on here to have this much fucking hype).

Would you guys prefer a Siege 2 if it meant it VASTLY improved gameplay mechanics and more destruction and tacticool shit?

I mean, how much can Siege's current engine handle?

>>173187393
You ask this every thread and shitpost with the same assblast.

>>173187396
I would prefer it if and only if they didn't try to sell it for $60. It would be a sure way to absolutely kill the community.

$30 at the ABSOLUTE MAX. $15-20 preferably.

>>173187393

It's just the pathetic Polecucks desperately hanging onto their useless meme CTU, wishing they've done things that the SAS has.

>>173184765
Here's to hoping for a bullpup MSBS.

>>173187393
I've seen far most posts about GROM being shit than the other way around.

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>i shot you for sure
>i saw it hit you
>no way you'd survive that
>bs
>nice hack
>no way that hit me

>>173187396
no. this game is a serviceable platform as it stands.

give me the 50-100 operators and ill play this piece of shit for another couple years

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>>173187393
>no u dont understand grom is super operator tier just look at their list of missions

>>173187393
what actually happends is that someone makes 1 post mentioning grom and then 20 spergcucks reply with shitpost on how they hate it

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chart again.

still waiting on #9.

is this unfair?

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>>173187650
>tfw your country's CTU's most notable accomplishment was when they were glorified mall cops for a soccer game

Holy fuck, could you imagine?

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>>173187851
>wihout
im an idiot but im too lazy to fix and post another chart just for the sake of fixing a spelling error.

>>173187706
It's actually the same fag spamming the same shit
It's probably another ts meme like that one guy jerking off to Delta Force

>got starter edition
>got rook and sledge
>for some reason i have 600 r6s cash currency
>do the sensible thing and buy frost because i love trap-based characters
>realize i really need to know the maps for mindgames and correct mat placement

god damn it

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>>173188025
is that actually a TS meme though? it seems everything that's considered a shitpost gets blamed on the TS.

>>173187851
what happened to the 8 with a cute iq?

>>173188073
>got starter edition
Stopped reading there.
Good luck, anon.

>>173186513
Considering how his flash cooldown was buffed I think so. It's been a while but I don't think I've heard any issues with shield's hitbox recently.

>>173187851
9 should be bandit placing a battery with 9 on it

just saying for whenever someone gobbles up that slot

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>>173188157
what's the matter, anon
scared of a little grind

>>173188128
gee I wonder why

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>>173188137
we already had an IQ (#3). didn't want the same operator twice.

>>173187396
>more destruction
Not what Siege needs.
What Siege needs is a complete overhaul and dump of certain ops and mechanics that really only serve to convolute the meta.
>All of the Thatcher/Thermite/Hibana Bandit/Mute meta is messy as shit, even since launch
>Attacker intel dominance has been present in the game since launch,
>Map design and operator balance doesn't serve to make solid point defense or beta roams more viable than hard roaming.
>DLC ops are all situational/underpowered, overpowered/power creep, or fill team niches that have needed filling since game launch.
all of this shit is why a Siege 2 would be good, but even then they'd likely keep most of it almost the same because they're afraid of heavy change or admitting they're wrong most of the time.

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>>173188381
>they plan on introducing 50-100 operators

>>173188371
do you realize that the two iq's will only show up together every time we hit 38 or 83 posts?

are you by any chance autistic?

>>173188595
here's your (you)

>>173188595
Is autism a new buzzword you learned today?

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r8

is this shit worth getting if im a console fag?

im guessing the playerbase will be fine for ps4 but is the game itself going to be garbage with controller like overwatch

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>>173188073
>spending credits on non credit-restricted content
>"sensible"
>>173188274
The extra grind isn't worth the zero dollars you save on the game. Pic related.

>>173188128
TS witch-hunting shitposts, in any form, should be ignored, not fed.

wow playing terrrorist hunt only with a shotgun is actually fun

>>173188762

I've heard the console versions are dead.

>>173188857
It's also good training for how to aim at center mass with them, which I get the feeling a lot of shitters here don't know how to do.

>>173188857
Play pistols only, always moving forward and you get an ad hoc Time Crisis.

>>173188937
Console fag here, not dead, to my knowledge. I mean, I'm in a match right now.

>>173188937
i'm pretty sure that the ps4 actually has a higher playercount than pc

>>173188792
>The extra grind
it's not like i want to have all of the operators, just the ones i'm interested in
what use does having a full roster of operators i don't know how to use have over gathering just the ones i'm both willing and capable of using?

besides, aren't the 25k operators worth the same in both editions?

i don't mind some grind, specially if i'm not gonna be a collector, and also if the alternative is to buy standard edition off of some shady key site

>monty will never get a headgear that isn't 30,000 renown or not for clancy bucks

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He looked down on the drones and back up at monty knowing there was nothing he could do.

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>>173189276
>and you get an ad hoc Time Crisis
Pardon?

>>173190057
HOL UP

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halp

What monitor do you guys use for Siege?

Wide monitors look comfy as hell.

>>173190089
Which part do you not understand?

You can create a make shift Time Crisis mini game.

You think the sequel will be called Rainbow 7 Siege

>>173190573
Yeah we've known about this.

>>173190706
No, that's not how any of this works
Plus there won't be a sequel until 100 operators :^)

>>173189945
>g2a
>shady
I got a full refund when I bought a game and was given the wrong key, and I got to keep the first game and buy the one I wanted anyways. And that was all without g2a shield.
The moderators looking at the case even censored some sensitive information in one of the pictures I sent in that I forgot to cover up myself. Based as fuck.

>>173190706
Rainbow 6 2

>>173190573
It's a new attachment to make your gun breathe.

AR33 Yay or Nay?

>>173189945
>having a full roster of operators i don't know how to use
you won't learn how to use half of the operators unless you use them, what kind of argument is that? Half of the operators I play I didn't think I would enjoy until I got my hands on them, and it takes fucking forever to get all of the important ops in the starter edition, as opposed to a few hours at most in the standard edition. It's just not a good bargain, especially if you just end up buying operators with clancy bucks instead of saving them for something exclusive.

>>173191078
personal preference. AR 33 has lower damage at range, but higher rate of fire and (subjectively) easier to control recoil make it potentially more potent in quick engagements, with the 25 cap magazine acting as a tradeoff for that.

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>>173190573
>My game has been doing this since I bought it two weeks ago
>Didn't even notice until just now

>>173188558
We're already close to a total of 50. We'll have 36 total operators by the end of this year

>>173186239
Convince me this isn't fake
Any fool could just photoshop an option in the menu

Hoping for a Battleye update soon. Seeing a lot of sketchy plays. Not saying that people are guaranteed to be cheating, just a high uptick in plays that seem off.

>>173191695
It's from the technical test server

opinions on the 556xi post buff? A bit late, but I haven't gotten around to playing thermite post mid season

>>173186239
>no yacht

>>173190706
Rainbow 6: Siege Harder

>>173190089
Their implication is that method of playing Rianbow Six: Siege's Terrorist Hunt mode is similar to the gameplay of the arcade game series Time Crisis, wherein cooperatively & rapidly shooting terrorists with handguns and ducking behind cover in order avoid damage and reload were it's core mechanics.

>>173190706
2 Rainbow 2 6

>>173191824
It makes it much more controllable in both early bursts and sustained fire. Not a drastic buff, but definitely makes it more usable. Good buff.

>>173192084
I got what he was saying, I just forgot what ad hoc meant and thought it was a typo.

>>173191796
Some people don't even try and hide it. Played against a someone last week that would ADS and track your head perfectly through a wall, and then fire the instant your head was behind a destructible surface. Did it against everyone on my team for the whole (short-lived) match.

Hey Euro-friends, how are the TTS servers?
Anything note worthy?

why is IQ so shit guys and how do we fix her

>>173192375
That's what I was facing earlier. A team that could track you through walls when on both attack and defense (without valk/cams and silent stepping).

They were also the players who like to spam stupid shit in chat the whole game.

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Post main operators
>Echo
>Sledge

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>>173193094
IQ isn't awful, but her ability is kind of useless outside of searching for Valk cams and finding pulse.

Honestly, I think they should give her pistol the ability to fire through reinforced walls, or give her ability a better range and put it on her main gun.

>>173193239
>Sledge
>Rook (Because I'm kind of forced to, not because I like it.)

>>173193239
>Thermite
>Doc/Mute

I'M ON THE HUNT
IT'LL ALL BE OVER SOON
NEVER TRUST THE NAKED EYE
WELL WELL WELL
END OF THE LINE

>>173193292
>her pistol the ability to fire through reinforced walls
this shit again
thanks for being easier to filter

>>173193239
Thermite
Mute/Rook

People say that Hibana is better but Thermite was my first operator. I just can't abandon him ;_;

Also I play mute cause I hate Thermites on the enemy team. Stop breaching my shit. Rook was my second operator I ever got. Old faithful when I don't know who to pick. Simple too.

>>173193438
not them, but
>underbarrel AP launcher for the pistol
>only 2 shots
>Deals 10 damage at max to players (no headshots)
>Primary function is to destroy jammers and batteries, but to a more limited capacity than Thatcher or Twitch
>Keeps her from being borderline useless if Valkyrie's cameras are easily spotted or if Pulse and Echo aren't picked.
Tell me how this is a bad idea.

>>173193818
This is something along the lines of what I thought of, except not being able to pierce through reinforced walls but instead the floor beams.

Seems like she'd be stepping into Thatcher's territory, but then again we have Thermite/Hibana.

>>173194158
>Seems like she'd be stepping into Thatcher's territory
As one of the three primary "anti-gadget" operators on attack, the fact that she offers such limited gadget destruction capability compared to her two other options is the lack of utility that keeps her from being useful on a more regular basis.

>It's another '/r6g/ makes shitty operator gadgets and '''fixes'''' episode

>>173184168
So it got leaked that the next map is named "Theme Park"?

>>173194697
>it's another "passive aggressive autist metaposts instead of offering valid arguments" episode
What would you rather /r6g/ talk about? Would you rather us just complain about how shit the game is instead of talk about how it could be better?

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>>173194158
Her main draw would be the ability to kill a specific few gagets at a further distance,through the walls and such, while Thatcher gets the free mass-removal of them.

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Why doesn't Ubi just pump out milsurp wannabe gear from Osprey catalogues that all the nerds wants instead of shit like this

I genuinely can't figure out what the fuck the process for things like this getting in-game with the expectation of it selling over some Soviet shit they would have replicas of for airsoft

>>173195478
Because they want it in the game, but they don't want to actually pay for it.

>>173195478
They don't know their own target audience. I think it's a push from corporate to add gear that will appeal to the "masses" and draw in cash, which is subsequently validated by that people actually buy it on a regular basis, even if it's for ironic reasons.

>>173193818
>Tell me how this is a bad idea.
Right here:
>>Deals 10 damage at max to players (no headshots)

0.00 Damage or go home. Doing damage through Reinforced walls should not be allowed, at all.

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anyone else notice the music in the TTS sounding a bit, different?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIX8TtG8swc

>>173194368
>>173195052
This makes sense, I'm on board for her having some actual utility on every objective instead of those with destructable floors/ceilings. As long as she only has a few shots.

>>173196651
2spok

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Hey /r6g/, I'm continuing work on the shotgun kill range project tonight and need volunteers. Join this temporary discord to help out: https://discord.gg/8CSB7Ny

>What is it?
Each shotgun has its maximum range at which it can reliably injure or kill an enemy for each armor rating. With the help of /r6g/ I will be doing exhaustive testing on every shotgun in the game. The first stage of this project is filling out the table. The second stage is a video on the final results, which will also include more info on the properties of shotguns. Every volunteer will be credited in the video.

>Why should I be interested?
If you use shotguns but have always wondered how close you would need to be to have an edge over your alternative weapon.
If you would like to start using shotguns on certain operators, but don't know which shotguns were good enough.
This is also /r6g/'s own original research aiming to give consistency to the most inconsistent part of the game.

>How can I help out? What do I need to do?
Join the temporary shotgun testing discord: https://discord.gg/8CSB7Ny (joining will let you be notified of testing periods in the future)
After exchanging uplay info, you will be invited into a custom game on Coastline.
Pick the recruit with the specified armor rating, then head up the stairs by the main entrance. All you have to do is stand against a wall and be completely still until you get shot.
Instructions are minimal and you may choose to stay and help for as long as you'd like, so feel free to listen to music or watch something on another monitor.

>Previous developments
The suppressed SASG-12 surprised me quite a bit, if you're using it <5m it'll have no impact on performance, but you're taking at least 1m off your kill range in ADS by equipping it.

>Tonight's plan
Getting into the DLC defender exclusive semi-autos tonight, starting with Frost's Super 90. These are the shotguns I've been the most curious about, and seems to be discussed here somewhat too.

>>173196517
>Doing damage through Reinforced walls should not be allowed, at all.
Why not? The only op that would be easily affected by this would be pulse, and a total of 20 possible damage isn't going to push him out of viability. A total of 20 possible blind, unguided damage through reinforced walls isn't anything to get upset about, especially when Fuze and Twitch are has potent as they are with as minimal risk as they can operate with.
The only reason I thought the damage would make sense is since it's an AP bullet, it'd be odd if it did no damage at all, but you could easily just make it a compact underbarrel pistol mounted directional EMP device.

>>173196667
>As long as she only has a few shots.
Two sounds good to me personally, like the other anon said.

>>173195478
I just want to put a half balaclava face mask ala frost on all the female operators so I don't have to see their ugly ubimodel faces

i am shit at the game

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>>173195478
>Why doesn't Ubi just pump out milsurp wannabe gear from Osprey catalogues
because if they did they would be losing a possible base headgear for a future operator.

think about it, if they introduced, say, a bucket hat for one of the current operators, that means that they couldn't give it to one of the future operators because having two operators with the exact same headgear would cause gameplay problems.

introducing a clown mask to an existing operator is fine because no future operator would use a clown mask.

the base headgears for operators are always realistic while their "dlc" hats are unrealistic.

>>173197636
>Full mouth cover Twitch headgear
>Echo's mask shared with Hibana as a headgear option, along with the hood being down and her hair getting tied up properly
>Ash gets more basic mouth bandanas and balaclavas to offer options other than her sort of shitty skull mask and cash-only watch-dogs mask
>Valk gets a full shemagh that covers her mouth (preferrably with sand-protection goggles to cover her eyes as well)
>Cav gets an actual mask with skull patterns to cover her man jaw
yes please

>>173197205
Reinforced Walls mean it's something that 1) can only be breached with special methods, and 2) you're safe from damage coming from an opponent on the other side (the only exception is Bandit batteries). Even if it was 0.5 HP of damage, it'd still violate the gameplay mechanic of being safe from someone on the other side of the wall, which is the opposite of most walls as they can be shot through. Fuze needs a barricade or destroyable wall (so you are already viewing that surface as a potential angle of being attacked), and Twitch drone still needs to get around the Reinforced wall to hit you.

>compact underbarrel pistol mounted directional EMP device.

That, I'm totally okay with.

>>173198009
this is actually a valid and well thought-out reason, but it's still gay as fuck. I know they want to keep operator identities more neatly compartmentalized, but a small bit of silhouette and headgear bleed would be fine if it meant we'd at least get basic options for alt headgears as mentioned here >>173198013 >>173197636

>>173198082
>Fuze needs a barricade or destroyable wall (so you are already viewing that surface as a potential angle of being attacked)
With the exception of Castle panels, aside from Glaz being able to abuse them as well.

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Bonjour it's time to cook in a nice thread

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How can skinny guys compete?

>Go to buy that new IQ Trance headgear from last thread
>it doesn't exist in the shop
????
Was that some TTS shit?

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I want to bully Caveria

>>173198594
It should be in the list of headgear on her operator page. If you could take an in-match screenshot to see how it looks in the game's lighting, I'd appreciate it.

>>173198903
I want Caveria to bully me

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>>173198920
No dice.
It's not in the GSG-9 Headgear list in the shop either.

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>win a solo queue 4v5
>+30 elo
>lose a solo queue 4v5
>-70 elo

really shit game

>>173199157
I remember seeing it when I looked yesterday. There were a couple of screenshots of textures that were out of place on Jager's helmet, so maybe they're planning to fix them first.

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>>173185306
>TFW only person with a semblance of aim
>can go 12/3 or some variant and STILL lose
>dying is like watching a bunch of monkeys fling shit at each other

>be defender
>can barely hear teammates over voice because it's so shit
>blow tactical hole in wall
>teammate walks up to me
>spazzes out
>fires shotgun in my face, teamkilling me
>wtf is up
>"FUCKING LISTEN WHEN I AM TALKING DON'T TAKE DOWN THAT WALL FAGGOT"

Fix your fucking VOIP, Ubisoft. Volume and quality so bad you can't hear shit. Useless.

>>173199780
It's perfectly fine retard, maybe it's you

>>173198903
is that sombra dressed up as caveira?

>>173200361
Laura, from SFV.

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>>173200361
It's Laura from Street Fighter V.

>>173200118
>perfectly fine

Having to set the master volume to 15 and VOIP to 100 just to hear people talk and then trying to decipher what the fuck people are saying over a 8khZ/10kpbs voice stream is hard as fuck.

It's fucking useless compare to Overwatch and Dota 2's VOIP. Shit, even CS:Source released in 2004 has better VOIP than Siege. This isn't excusable for a game released in 2015.

>>173200602
It's just shoddy volume settings. People all hear me and my mates perfectly fine, but a lot of niggers that play the game think keeping their output volume at the lowest setting is fine. Either that or they just mumble with their mouth away from their mic too much.

>>173198009
That seems reasonable.

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>>173196995
Testing is still going on, we've got two people and I'd like to get a third in so we could start working on getting Rook armor tests done.

Just finished Super 90 and currently on SPAS-12
https://discord.gg/8CSB7Ny

>>173187393
What the fuck is special about Korea and Hong Kong?

>>173200749
Maybe it's decipherable when everyone can speak English coherently, but as a European, shit gets hard fast when everyone speaks with a different accent that would be difficult to understand even in person.

>how to fix castle

>give him 4 barricades

or

>barricades can no longer be fuzed
>barricades take 3 sledgehammer hits to break open

also

>replace Thermites Sig 556 with the UMP
>Give Castle UMP
>Give Hibana the Mp5SD, give Echo the Type Whatever

Rate my balancing faggots

>>173200997
>>173198009
Yeah, it's fairly reasonable, but even within those constraints they could still squeeze out more basic, small-difference sorts of headgear, like balaclavas on operators that don't already have them, or the FBI operators with their goggles off/on their helmets or foreheads and shit like that. Stuff that wouldn't fuck with their visual identities all too much would be fine.

>>173201194
>give him 4 barricades
no
>barricades can no longer be fuzed
no
>barricades take 3 sledgehammer hits to break open
no
these aren't the way to solve him, the only way to solve him is first making it so you cant see legs anymore, but the door is no longer meleeable and glaz cant break the door, only make holes in it

>>173201357
The door needs to be melee'd tho. That aspect of it is non-negotiable. Otherwise you'd have to redesign every map to have no less than 4 entry points on every objective

>>173201357
If you can't see legs, you won't be able to shoot people trying to open it.

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ash done, both vanilla twitch and elite twitch next

>>173201194
>castle has 4 barricades and 3 reinforcements
>castles can now be bandit charged
fixed

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>>173201551
>censored
this implies that there's an uncensored version

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>>173201551
The filename suggests that there's an uncensored one. Where might that be?

>>173201551
>sweaty ash

wew, thanks for drawing this

>>173201194
>>replace Thermites Sig 556 with the UMP
>Give Castle UMP
>Give Hibana the Mp5SD, give Echo the Type Whatever
That's fucking horrible, especially the FBI changes. Thermite's in a good place now, why would you take his gun, his most redeeming quality, away from him?

>>173201357
>barricades can no longer be fuzed
>"no"
Fuze and Glaz need to be unable to shoot through or cluster-charge through his panels. Those two are the biggest reasons Castle hurts more than he helps in pubs, especially now that Glaz is way more than viable.

>making it so you cant see legs anymore
Hurts defenders more than attackers in most cases. Now you can't see people placing breach charges on door panels.
>but the door is no longer meleeable
We've been over this before. You can't do that.
>glaz cant break the door, only make holes in it
Arguably backwards. Glaz being able to shoot through the panels from almost complete safety before he breaks them open is more dangerous and detrimental than being able to bust them open alone.

>>173201551
You're a thiccness obsessed person.

>>173202006
Sorry I meant give Castle the Sig 556, not the UMP.

Also I would argue take Claymores away from Hibana, and give Thermite the option of 3 smoke, 3 stun, or a claymore (3 gadget options) on top of everything else.

>>173202073
he said he literally can't draw non-thicc before, so it's more an anatomy deficiency than it is an obsession.

>>173201551
i don't want to be a backseat artist but something's fucking with my perspective on that hat

>>173202182
>Sorry I meant give Castle the Sig 556, not the UMP.
I knew what you meant, but replacing Thermite's rifle with the UMP would be a hard nerf at this point, and Thermite doesn't need that.
And neither Echo or Castle need assault rifles. Echo only needs a buff to his SMG. Giving him the Type 89 would be overkill, especially considering it's probably one of the best ARs in the game, even with its 20(+1) capacity magazine.

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>>173201551

>>173202506
We have to look at this in one of two ways

1) We have to be futilistic and accept that these reinforced breachers are a mandatory component of any team comp, and make them viable operators that are just as good as everyone else

or

2) Potentially make other operators more desirable to go through normal doors and windows

I tend to trend towards number 2, and there are various ways of doing this. First, we have to fix people like Blitz and to some extent Fuzes shield, so that having shield op's going through the front door is actually a viable tactic.

The problem is, from an overall balance view of #2, the operator has to lose something in exchange for utility. In this case, Thermite has good capacity to kill while also filling a VITAL role. There isn't a reason to pick him, because he never had a downside - but there were obvious downsides to not picking him since others couldn't fill that roll well.

There are actually a number of maps and objectives where you don't NEED thermite, but taking Thermite on those doesn't even hurt your team on any level, because he still has a half decent gun and has a claymore which serve a purpose.

Like you said, Hibana has one of the best guns in the game right now. She also has the most versatility in terms of empowering attackers, and is probably the best character in the game. On top of this she has a claymore. How do we "fix" her without "ruining" her?

Because depending on how you look at it, scenario 1 these Operators are 100% viable and have no downsides even if you never use their gadget, and scenario 2 this means they are overpowered and need to be tweaked.

>>173202506

Why do people shill so hard for the T89? I honestly feel it has a fuckload of recoil and the 20 mag is a dealbreaker

>>173203090
Because for some reason the T89 has some magical recoil in a 2-3 shot burst that will sometimes end up granting you a good headshot

But further than that, She is 3 speed memes and Hibana's gadget gives you incredible angles and opportunity to use the rifle, so you tend to get a lot of kills with the rifle because of all these circumstantial factors that put you in advantageous positions when using it. It's sorta like white privilege - we attribute 100% of the success to the rifle but don't see all the factors before that led up to it.

>>173201357

You'd have to be a retard to say that castle doors shouldn't be brought down by melee. You're basically forcing attackers to always carry breach charges, and in a situation where all the breach-capable attackers are dead, it's essentially GG for them. That shit can't happen m8, there's always gotta be a way to enter a room.

>>173202324
The hand makes it look odd.

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This is honestly the worst map in the entire game, this feels lazy as fuck.

All the objective rooms are horrible, the map itself is just a hollow square with adjacent rooms, no central lobby or stuff to branch, it's just 4 fucking hallways on each floor with some rooms plastered at the sides.
Camera placement is also terrible. 3 external cams, why so many? I don't need that many angles, and the rest of the cams are placed on some of the hallways where people NEVER come by. Club house has 3 external cams but also a bunch of useful normal cams which are actually placed on the entrances to important rooms.

Don't even mention favela, really, favela is actually a great map that grows on you, if you forgo the packaging and the grow room. Favela is balanced enough for both sides and it also has room for lots of improvisation.

>>173203569
>every objective feels exactly the same because there is a door to the left, to the right, and to the outside

Yeah I really fucking hate this map, but your opinion on Favela is 100% objective garbage. If Favela had twice the interior space, and every objective was a room or two from an exterior wall (sort of like that one objective in the middle apartment), Favella would be a top tier map

But it's shit

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>>173203569

>>173203569
>Favela is a great map

Favela is cheese-strategies and roaming. Trying to defend the actual objective site is a fool's errand. If you got stuck with Hostage on Favela you may as well just hope you have successful spawn peeks as a Defender.

Any map that has objective rooms with more reinforcable walls than there are reinforcements is a bad map in a game where Thermite and Hibana exist.

>>173198518
What do you think the Spetsnaz sound like when they get it on

Are they still 1 speed even without their armor

Is Tachanka's old heart healthy enough for sex

So many questions

>>173201019
Do you need another person to be a guinea pig?

>>173203569
I agree with this, and I also hate Skyscrapper. I feel these 2 maps allow for 0 improvisation from both attackers and defenders, there's exactly one way to defend and attack each room
Really it's as badly balanced as Bartlett, but Bartlett is understandable because it was originally an attacker's-only map.

>>173203704
Nah senpai, every room in favela gives equal opportunities to both teams and there's room for a lot of cheeky tactics. Only bad room is the 3F packaging room. And also that room on the 2nd floor apartment where theres some thick fog that doesn't let you see shit at day

>>173203890
>there's exactly one way to defend and attack each room
And yet people love plane.

>>173203284
No there should be a way to shut people out if they fuck up that massively. You shouldn't always be able to get into a room. If your 2-3 people with breaching ability or frags die without opening it you deserve to lose the round.

>>173203090
>fuckload of recoil
But it doesn't. It's super easy to keep on target if you know how to control recoil in general, but this is coming from someone that enjoys using the C8, so take that with a grain of salt, I suppose. The high rate of fire and good damage also just mean you can usually just melt most enemies if you aim at center mass instead of the head anyways.

>>173202957
>We have to be futilistic and accept that these reinforced breachers are a mandatory component of any team comp
But going through chokes is never going to be optimal.
The map design of the game just doesn't allow for that kind of choice, and I'm not saying that's a good thing, but unless they make non-reinforcement-breachers leagues above specialized breachers in terms of utility and damage potential, bumrushing through the obvious routes will never be viable, unless every map up to this point is redesigned to be more like Favelas but with more entry points, and I don't think anyone wants that.

it's really weird how they made the last 2 maps so shitty after the Border, which is arguably the best map in the game.

>>173204452
>it's really weird how they made the last 2 maps so shitty
Entirely subjective.
No one agrees on whether or not they like Coastline and Skyscraper, and I've heard plenty of people say they hate Border almost as much as Favelas, despite plenty of people thinking it's one of the best maps in the game.
In short, opinions are opinions, and only autists are going to argue otherwise, so you'd better not.

honestly they re-use a lot of room names/themes a lot.

bedroom found on: hereford, chalet, oregon, plane, house,clubhouse, yacht, skyscraper, coastline.

strip club: favelas, clubhouse.

kitchen: kafe cykablyat, house , hereford, consulate, chalet, oregon, yacht, favela, bartlett, coatline.

armoury: hereford, oregon, clubhouse, favelas, border, skyscraper.

pool room: house, coastline.

bar: cafe cykablyat, chalet, yacht, skyscraper.

garage: house, consulate, clubhouse, oregon.

servers: consulate, plane, kanal, border.

bathroom/showers: house, oregon, kanal, consulate, clubhouse, chalet, yach, border, skyscraper, coastline.

library: kafe cykablyat, bartlett

there's probably more and i probably missed some but whatever.

>>173203949
I believe people love plane because it's really what RB6 should be about: CQB. Skyscrapper and Coastline feel too open while feeling constricted at the same time.

Like plane actually has a bunch of tricks and routes you can take, these other 2 maps are too black and white.

>>173204059

No, you can fuck off tryhard. There can be 1v5 clutches in this game, your shitty suggestion would mean that the round is literally lost as soon as every breacher dies. Worst is that you also suggested for them to cover the ground 100%, so you could just put a mute behind the door and then you're forcing a meta where EVERY ATTACKER TEAM NEEDS SLEDGE and where the round is lost as soon as sledge/thatcher die. Still think your shitty suggestion is a good idea?

>>173204756
>honestly they re-use a lot of room names/themes a lot
There's nothing wrong with this. It keeps callouts and general map areas easy to learn, especially when the underlying themes of each map are so different. The technical themes of each room being similar doesn't create any problems, as long as the visual themes don't have too much overlap between maps.

>>173204594

You can come by a general consensus thought, I've heard much much much more people saying coastline is a bad map.

>>173204968
>efficiency is just clever lazyness

>>173204834
I'm not even that guy you eternally butthurt shitter that doesn't realize that 3 people on attack each round normally have breaching charges or frags. Castle isn't going to get picked literally every single time and even then you have fucking 3 people with breaching. If 3 niggers get killed without using charges you deserve to lose.

>>173204756
What exactly are you trying to say?

The library in kafe and the library in bartlett are 100% or even 300000% different. Library in bartett has 2 fucking floors, one normal stairwell and several bookcases providing concealment, as well as 4 entry points.

Kafe library has 1 floor, no bookcases and its L shaped, its also considerably smaller.

and your other points, I mean, complaining about repetition of bathrooms? Yeah humans need to shit, that's so bad.

>>173205018
>I've heard much much much more people saying coastline is a bad map.
And I've personally seen about a 50/50 split between people that love it and hate it, but the confirmation bias is a hell of a drug.

>>173204059
You understand a game has to be fun, before it is highly competitive right? You need to have a game that people actually want to play and not get regularly fucked over on so you can have a community that cares about the game to watch it, and thus, care about the competitive nature.

Why aren't we watching fags play master championships for shit like Chess regularly? Well, none of us play chess, because chess isn't exactly fun to play over and over and over again. Siege is.

Getting locked out of an objective room by Monty is frustrating, but quite rare, and the circumstances for it to happen aren't exactly common - and there is STILL counter place to that.

>>173203858
Yes, another would be helpful. Join the discord and we can exchange uplay info.

>>173205279
the discord fuck lol I guess I'll abandon my friends.

>>173205061
>>173204059
Giving people literally no options is neither fun nor competitive. Odds should always be there; there should always be a possibility to win to present a fair challenge, that's just a part of basic game design.

>>173205279
My infos in the discord.

>>173205061

no, thats a shitty argument. Nobody "deserves to lose"; it's you whos the tryhard because you say "wah wah I need a method for automatically winning without actually achieving the objectives or killing the entire enemy team!"

Seriously, look at the shit you posted "heheh if you dont use any breaching charges before reaching the objective and getting mown down you deserve to lose the round xD"

You probably also didn't think BBs shield should have been nerfed from its original form

>>173204302
>The map design of the game just doesn't allow for that kind of choice

The thing is, it actually does on a number of objectives. If shields weren't so hardcore cucked, they would also be a good on a bunch of the other objectives. The amount of objectives that would REQUIRE Thermite or Hibana drop drastically.

Since non Therm/Hibana breaching would become viable, defender strategies have to vary abit. Think like this - Right now, if the enemy team Bandit, Mutes and Jagers up, but you managed to Fuze the room first, then bum rush the objective with Blitz, Monty, and a hail of Frag Grenades... That SHOULD be a viable strategy, but it's not in the current meta.

Why?

Part of this is since the only real way to remove barbed wire reliably is through frag grenades - you are using up a good resource that you could otherwise use to breach the room aggressively... But those are ALSO used up by Jagers shit - so there are so many things working AGAINST frags right now that trying to plan to use them hyper aggressively in a traditional roll doesn't work out

Same with Blitz - if you plan to use Blitz to raid the objective room, but his massive ass head hitbox, the largest in the game, manages to come within 9 feet of a bullet, he self destructs instantly.

There is a number of issues that need to be addressed, and once you do, we should really focus on unfucking Thermite and Hibana's power. They should not be on part with other operators if they don't use their gadget, but they are. So they are equal to everyone else, than have a game changing ability. This is why they are currently chosen in over 100% of matches.

>>173204756
I think they're reused a lot because they make sense for buildings to have these rooms, in general.

Most every building in the world's gonna have a bathroom, either by demand or building regulations.

Most every residential place is gonna have a bedroom.

Almost every residential and a lot of commercial places are gonna have kitchens.

Garages are also a very common structure across all types of buildings.

Servers stand out beause they look the same across the environments, but they make sense to be in the buildings you find them.

Usually the place you're assaulting is implied to be a bad-guy hideout, so them having an armory also makes sense.

Skyrcraper's weird in that you have the residential wing attached to the restruant / entertainment half, but I figure it's paid for by some crazy rich Yakuza guy so he can build it however he wants.

>>173201848
>>173201830
booru
but the difference is really small

>>173202324
>Implying critique is bad
im not used to draw hats, i used the in game model for reference

>>173205061

>Calls people shitters
>is advocating for a design choice that would make people win without actually killing the enemy

>>173205590
>making sure that a team that is at a severe disadvantage doesn't automatically lose
>keeps the game competitive, interesting, and allows for comebacks
>statistically in 9 out of 10 cases they will be hardcore fucked anyways because the deck is stacked against them
>this is somehow wrong and bad for the game

LOL!

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NEW OPERATOR NAMES LEAKED

Defender: Caltrop

Attacker: Dazzler

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>>173205789

For those wondering about source, someone on reddit found the names in the game files

>>173205953
I hope they're putting in fake files just to catch leakers.

>>173205061
The only people who deserve to lose are those who lose the 5 team members.
Anything else goes. It's a terrible idea in ANY GAME to put a mechanic that can't be circumvented naturally by every character

>>173205741

what is this post trying to prove? are you agreeing with him?

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>>173205695
FWIW on the hat thing, I think the issue is where the bill meets the main part of the cap. It looks "layered", as if the bill is on a lower layer than the cap and thus is behind it from this perspective. I think the bill needs to be brought up over the bottom of the cap where they meet. For your entertainment, here's a comically bad MS Paint attempt to show you what I mean. Hopefully you can see what Im autistically trying to say.

>>173206292
He's advocating for situations that you should just be guaranteed to lose, just because reasons. Instead of a 9 out of 10 times you lose because lets say you are outnumbered and locked out of the objective with no breachers, he wants to make that 10/10 guaranteed loss.

I'm just saying there should always be a chance.

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>>173205789
>Caltrop
shit! my one weakness!

>>173206465
The same thing could be said about reinforced walls and the only way Ubi knows how to "fix" this problem is by making rooms with so many openings that reinforcing walls ends up being a waste of time.

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>>173205695
hey campi, do you want to be in charge of uploading your own art to the booru?

how do I set my voice language options to a different language?

>>173206703

>The same thing could be said about reinforced walls

Except reinforced walls are always in a room with, eh, you know, conventional doors

reinforced walls + this suggested castle change would make 100% impenetrable rooms

>>173206703
>The same thing could be said about reinforced walls
what the fuck are you talking about? There's literally no spot in the game where you can block off every angle of entry to entirely prevent entry by the attackers.

>>173206703
The thing is even with reinforced walls, you still have multiple entry points into an objective. Once again, not ideal to go through the front door... but the front door is always an option.

But I think we can all agree there is a number of objectices that are severely retarded, and not every objective needs immediate exterior access. Coastline is an example of how retarded map design can be, but I would say Kafe has some pretty good map design with a few issues here and there.

>>173206906
I really just don't like the rooms that have more walls than the team has reinforcements, especially when those rooms are easily accessible in the first place (i.e. all of Favela). It just turns into a game of the roamer being able to kill Thermite/Hibana or not, and even if they do there's still multiple walls for them to knock down.

>>173206906
but isnt coastline and house pretty much the same shit? other than a basement those are pretty similarly designed maps

>>173206295
thanks for your input anon

>>173206745
oh, what do you mean? most of the times i upload it myself

>>173207159
The thing with House is while House is pretty porus in terms of exterior openings, there are a lot of nooks and crannies where Defenders can hide. Also, because House is so small and there is fast access to an adapting situation, if an Attacker gets into the upstairs floor and your teammate calls it out, you can start shifting to accommodate.

I would say Kids room is fucking retarded overall, but if you open up the kids room it's just as bad for attackers on Bomb if you open up all the walls - Mira has a really good role in this right now as well.

I would say if House removed that giant window on the front of the house attackers can use the map would be drastically improved. ATK can already shoot through that stairwell window and control that entire lane reliably.

>>173207125

Most of favela rooms can be entirely reinforced. Aunt's apt, armory, packaging, grow room can be entirely reinforced. only the football and biker apt cant, and even then you can still reinforce most of it so that there's only 1 side you should worry about. Aunt's apt is one of my favorite rooms in the game and it's not only the room itself that I like but the flanking options present in the map.

>>173207159

No, house has a lot of creative options on every room. Basement for example, most people don't know you can fuze it from the main entrance, or blow up the ceiling and fuck the guys by the car. I agree that you're in for hell if you don't breach the garage doors, but seeing how they're external and 5 seconds away from spawn, that's not much of a problem.

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>>173207159
>oh, what do you mean? most of the times i upload it myself
i mean letting you upload your stuff instead of me (ex: you uploaded all of your work except for valk and hibana). so going forward in the future do you want to be the sole uploader of your work to the booru.

>>173207586
oh dont worry about it, sometimes i cant upload because i either forget it or its just too late, so i really appreciate it when someone do it for me


>>173207564
>>173207553
yeah, i must admit nothing in house gets as bad as defending the fucking bar on coastline, especially when its secure

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>>173199157
>>173199467
They got rid of the bundle and the individual headgear from the shop. People on Siege's twitter reported buying the bundle but not receiving the headgear.

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t.freepoomulus

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>>173184168
So I'm the anon who was trying to get Rainbow 6: Black Ops working yesterday. I did some work on my windows 8 machine, lot's of trial and error, which I will briefly detail.
First off, when I finally got the game to run without crashing after the first opening video (which took a while), this is what it looked liked.

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>>173209151
After even further messing around, this is the best state I could get it in. The menu and option buttons are now usable, but descriptive text on missions, equipment, briefings, etc. still in a terrible state. The game would launch reliably though, which is saying alot.

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>>173209316
These are the setting I used in DXGL, (the program recommenced from http://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Tom_Clancy's_Rainbow_Six:_Rogue_Spear) to get even as far as I did. With the text a headache to read, I wouldn't consider it playable. Of course, this doesn't touch on the fact that launching any mission to the actual execution phase instantly caused the game to crash. So yeah, lot's of work to get a slightly less broken game. I'm pretty much at the end of what I can try for the Win 8 machine.
I will be doing similar testing on my Windows 7 machine in the near future and will report back if I actually get any further.

>>173205789
>>173205953
>Dazzler
Please be a female operator. That's a perfect name for one. Also, make the female Korean operator named Diva while they're at it

I want to kill myself
I used to be gold
Now im bronze 2
I just keep getting the worst teammates. I carry as hard as i can and they still lose my games
>watching cams as valk because i died
>its match point for us and there are 10 secs left
>buck walks inside the only doorway that they can enter the bomb obj from and starts planting the defuser
>cav who is on the other side of the doorway on the other side of the room just stands there looking through a row of peekholes she has meleed out of the wall which give vision on nothing
>tell her she needs to get in there, buck is planting
>4 seconds left and the bomb gets planted
>because of its location we cannot defuse it and we lose
>this is the second time we lost match point because of this guy
>the first time he had a clear shot at the last guy alive but was so close to the wall that while his sight was on the guy he was just shooting the wall infront of him
>was also too far away to kill the guy when he started to defuse
ONE
FUCKING
JOB

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>>173205789
Shit, what if they make Caltrop's gadget like the original plans for barbed wire?
>Pain+Damage with audio cues

>>173210201
>female Korean operator named Diva
I don't think Blizzard would stand for that. Ubi would be swarmed with Goldenberg lawyers before you could say "nerf this."

>>173201551
do iq

>biker club
>recruit runs outside, throws c4 over a wall into our spawn before we have gone into view of the first camera and detonates the c4 midair next to me
>next attack round he is immediatley shooting out the window at us and quits when he dies

Are wall hacks a common thing or was he just incredibly lucky?

>>173210645
thats a common spawn kill spot

btw wallhackers are back but i doubt that was one

>>173210645
>recruit runs outside, throws c4 over a wall into our spawn before we have gone into view of the first camera and detonates the c4 midair next to me
That's a notorious tactic on that map. He just guessed right where your team spawned.

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Wasn't Jackal named something completely different in the game files?

Are we sure these are actually the next operator names?

>>173211269
Why do people think he's Muslim

>>173209151
>>173209316
>>173209661

I'm sorry man but this shit can't be fixed, I spent an entire month trying, you just can't. Either get a shitty old pc with xp, download xp and make a partition on your HDD or settle with Raven shield

>>173210403

Same thing happened to me during Red crow and I managed to get back to gold literally 4 hours before velvet shell

Sadly the elohell in this game is real

>>173191257
>easier to control recoil than the A2

Wut

>>173211302

Well, nobody knows if he is muslim, as in, if he follows Islam and shit.

But he's definitely arab, it's literally in his name

>>173209661
>>173209316
>>173209151
Glad to hear back from you.

Did you try just doing the Wrapper thing and following all the instructions?

Use a DirectX 1-7 to OpenGL conversion wrapper[citation needed]

Download WineD3D For Windows (works with both version 1.7.52 and 1.9.19).
Extract the files named ddraw.dll, libwine.dll and wined3d.dll into the game directory folder in which the game executable is found.
Go to the game installation directory where you pasted the files ddraw.dll, libwine.dll, and wined3d.dll, and rename the "ddraw.dll" file to "ddfuk.dll"
Open RogueSpear.exe with a hex editor such as HxD.
Click on "Search > Replace" or press Ctrl + R
Search for ddraw.dll and replace with ddfuk.dll and click replace all.
Save your changes by clicking "File > save" or by pressing Ctrl + S

In the pastebin I only had it up to the second step, which is what it usually needs on Win10. maybe try it fully?

Also, did you mess around with compatibility modes? Maybe XP mode would work?

I just find it reallly weird that the game works on both Win7 and Win10, but not Win8.

>>173193239
>Jager/Smoke/Rook
>Sledge/Thermite/Fuze

But mostly I go with who is best for the team

>>173211269
According to the Velvet Shell asset pack, which is in the pastebin guide, his name was Tindalos

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OK hear me out faggots.

How about a defense operator that deploys high powered led bars?

Don't think about "blitz on defense", think like, on chalet at sunrise, when you break the trophy room window and visibility is horrible because of the lighting, something like that.

It would stop attackers from bumrushing into several rooms, the defenders would have an easier time spotting the attackers before being spotted themselves. Make it produce heat so that it can counter glaz as well.

The led bar would be destroyed by regular bullets/twitch drones, maybe 2-3 shots

attackers would need to pinpoint its location by the propagation of light.

This is a real life police/spec ops strat btw, police will park their cars in the direction of the aggressor and turn on their high lights to blind them

>>173211676
No dynamic lighting on the siege engine

>>173204452
I like Skyscraper and Coastline

>>173210414
Rustling barbed wire is already one of the loudest sounds that doesn't involve an explosion

>>173211883
I wish I was able too.

poom did nothing wrong

>>173211849

Wouldn't the same...mechanic used to light the maps be used for it? Like when you break windows and light gets inside rooms?

>>173211908

Few people know this but you can actually walk through barbed wire while making 0 sound, you have to WALK literally walk through it, but it takes like 20 seconds to cross a patch

i've actually sneaked into so many rooms like that, nobody expects it.

>>173211927
What's wrong with them?

The middle area is heavily underused by both the offense and defense on Coastline. Gotten so many good flanks/Thermite charges off in that middle garden.

>>173212054
They're boring to play on.

>>173212050
>Wouldn't the same...mechanic used to light the maps be used for it? Like when you break windows and light gets inside rooms?

You can pre-bake multiple variations of lighting - like you can have two different lighting set ups for "if this window is open" and "if this window is closed"

Siege would be better if it had a more dynamic lighting engine, but I guess they couldn't get it to work

>>173211317
>Either get a shitty old pc with xp, download xp and make a partition on your HDD or settle with Raven shield
Hey great idea. If I can nab a windows xp iso, I could probably just set up a virtual machine and run the game on there.

>>173211468
I messed with the compatibility a bit, but I didn't see good results. Maybe I'll try it again on my windows 7 machine. Also for the record, it was not working on my windows 7 machine as well and would crash after the opening cinematic.
I could try the windows 10 solution in full, though honestly that would be the last thing I will try considering, well, I'm not using windows 10.

>>173212054
Coastline is a very small map in a very big shell.
It's really just a hollow square with a few rooms.
Every room feels the same, and some are simply terrible in design, blue bar for example, that window makes it almost impossible to defend because attackers can comfortably place themselves into like 3 or 4 spots to fuck you over.

The garden you mention only connects to one room: The billards if im not mistaken, and thats not enough to make it useful. Hell it's even hard to make proper angles with hibana there because the wooden beams on the roof block most of the pellets

>>173212050
Having light settings for window open/window not open is not the same as having player placeable light sources that have to calculate interactions with walls etc.

Notice how nothing in the game actually glows, explosions dont give off light, you cant shoot out lights, no flashlights, etc. The engine cant handle it.

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I'd be up for a Siege 2 if they could make the gameplay and maps feel more exciting.

Like, during night time, it actually feels like it's night time. None of this recoloring the skybox shit. You can shoot out lights, and so on and so forth.

Make it more than just 6v6, maybe like 12v12 and on bigger maps.

Man, I want a game like that so bad. Maybe even put it in a futuristic setting.

>>173212054

I hate skyscrapper because every objective room has exterior access and tea room is in my opinion the worst room to attack, it's simply impossible to succeed there if the enemy team is good, I've never seen diamond players losing that room.
>Fuze grenades from the window wont touch anyone inside
>the back double compartment is completely bulletproof both the walls and the floor
>a bunch of protruding walls block angles from everywhere
>entirely reinforceable
>defenders can easily cover the ways into the walls so its hard to thermite them
>even if you thermite them, you still have to deal with the fucking bulletproof compartments in the back

Also because it has way too many angles on its open zones, but that's just me.

Coastline, on the other hand, I hate that shit because that map is pretty much just the objective rooms.There's fucking nothing in the hallways, no reason to visit them, just go through the nearest window which is always conveniently placed next to an objective wall, blow the wall/window and do your thing. Thats why I hate it, it's simply a map where only 10% of the thing is being used.

And because it's a square connected by hallways, there is literally no reason in going inside other rooms, because you know there's only 2 directions they can be reached from

>>173212135
The only map I find truly boring is Yacht

>>173212231
Attackers often feel top comfortable with that window. Peeking from the top or the window adjacent in the other bar... Or from the balcony... Or the door to the other bar can be used.

I don't use it on attack. I repel into the garden and Thermite the wall

>>173205953
>more siege news that broke on reddit first

How can /r6g/ even compete?

>>173212553

no that's easy as shit to counter and a great way to get peeked. Most attackers simply sit back at the high point of the ruins (where the wall actually covers them from all of those parts you mentioned) or there's so many of them that one is bound to hear you breaking out windows. I rarely see anyone successfully defending blue bar, all the window peekers always die.

Just today I found out that you can destroy the boxes below the counter itself and hide there, it's a good hiding spot, but still not good enough to justify picking that room.

>>173212734
It's extremely easy to counter, and I always drone it out, but no one ever watches that garden.

>>173212054
Look at the coastline map
http://www.r6maps.com/#coastline/2/all

Like >>173212548 said the map is bad because it lacks interconnecting sections especially on the 2nd floor. I should be able to reach those rooms from every direction, not just by following a shitty narrow hallway with no flanking routes.

It essentially makes it pointless to roam the map

>>173212642
By facilitating discussion.

>>173212734
And yeah, I knew about that spot. Almost indestructible spot. It's even better if you're Valk or Echo.

Are there a lot of hackers in siege? I start seeing more and more weird shit

>>173213092

I've honestly only found about 2 people who made me suspicious about hacks.

I remember when they implemented battleye, there were literally non stop banning notices going off during every game

>>173212231
>Coastline is a very small map in a very big shell.
>Operation Velvet Shell

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>173213092
There was a big sale, like 50% off, a week or two ago. I figure a portion of those new players have gotten frustrated with losing so much and started using hacks around the same time as each other.

>>173193239
>Montagne/Fuze
>Mute/Jäger
Currently I'm branching into Blitz/Glaz on offence, though. Haven't bought any of the S1/S2 guys yet.

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>>173212546
piss off to battlefield lmao

>>173213284
Like pottery
Bravo Ubisoft

>>173212973

You call shitposting on the regular "discussion"?

>>173213284
Where's the Velvet? I don't think any of the weapon skins are velvet.

>>173213354
Maybe the Velvet symbolizes the luxurious life style surrounding the map (shell)
You know, fancy shit, sports cars, pool parties, etc

>>173212546
5v5 is perfect

>>173212546
Dumb catposter

>>173211415
>(subjectively)
I actually hate the AR33 myself, but every time it gets mentioned anons come out of the wood-works praising it and swearing its recoil is lower than the L85-A2.

>>173213657
I don't know what they're smoking. The L85 is one of the easiest to use rifles in the game.

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>>173193239
>twitch
>smoke

>mfw killing echo's drone with twitch at the start of the round

can Mute get just one headgear that doesn't clash with his outfit while not looking like shit

>>173212546
I'd like 6v6 just because most of the maps feel completely barren with 5v5, and because 6v6 is the minimum for playing as a 2-stack to not be rage inducing

>>173212480
>explosions dont give off light
Actually wrong. They do give off light (at least on medium or higher settings, I've never tested low) they just don't cast shadows. It's usually fairly non-intensive to have approximate glows from dynamic sources in most engines, but they normally look like shit so you really only see them used for quick bursts of light like with muzzle flashes and explosions nowadays. Siege uses that method of dynamic glow for both of those things, and Thatcher's grenades too, if I'm not mistaken.

>you cant shoot out lights
That doesn't really seem to be engine limited, at least not fully. There are plenty of spots in the game where Thatcher's EMP can knock out lights for a limited time, but it's not a lasting effect. Those same lights can also be shot to flicker briefly. Not all lights in all maps act that way, just most, so that may be a sign it does have something to do with engine limitations, or even just map file size or some shit, but it's more likely due to fears of different graphics settings and PCs of different powers having advantages/disadvantages if it were implemented as a gameplay mechanic.

>>173214278
I like his blue X one.

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would you play it /dsg/?

>>173214881
make one with montagne

>>173193239
thermite/glaz
smoke/valk

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>>173214881
>choose echo as your protagonist
>the only option is to excuse yourself to play with yokai and watch anime
>every time

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>>173214881
>"would you play it /dsg/?"
>"/dsg/"
>still posting /r6g/ related content
You a little tired there friendo?

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>>173205789
Please be true

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>>173205789
>Defender: Caltrop
Begging for a Siege edit with Sledge if the new operator does in fact have caltrops.

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>it's a start a match and get TK'd episode

>>173216049
Pretty sure there already is an edit like that

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>>173205789
Razzle dazzle camo when

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>decide to take long way to obj
>"I should drone, nah fuck that, why the hell would anyone be here
>land right inside the barrel of a prone Valkyrie
FUCKING REEEE
WHY DIDN'T I DRONE
WHY THE FUCK WAS SHE RIGHT THERE
REEEEEEEE

Did they remove all the new GSG-9 helmets?

I can't find them? Or am I retarded and it's TTS only?

>>173218008
They got removed permanent

>>173201356
Thermite without ayy goggles is my dream

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>>173218151
What a terrible shame they've got cartoon villains running the marketing department.

>>173217584
>tfw too smart to drone

>>173213092
I've been accused at least 4 or 5 times, even tho I'm shit. Mostly by literal coppers or lvl20s
I got the game a couple of months ago and only put a little over 100 hours into it and I've never seen any blatant hack so far
Just one fishy thing the other day, guy went from looking at the ground to placing his crosshair exactly on my out of vision head in one straight line and a quarter of a second, but other than that he was trash with below 1 kd so at this point I don't even know if killcams are an accurate depiction of what happened

Female ops ranked by QTness
1. IQ
2. Cav
3. Mira
4. Ash
5. Twitch
6. Frost
7. Valk
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Worst: Hibana