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First time NON-LEWD polls!

http://www.strawpoll.me/12678043

http://www.strawpoll.me/12678037
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>>173182034
>(embed)
I ponder how many threads in a row will have this.
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Best waifu, worst card. Why is it so shit? Jesus christ.
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Post armpits, please.
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I do not approve this OP.
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Lou is short for Emmylou!
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>>173182181
OH MY GOD
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Forte's been spending too much time on /pol/
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>>173182165
Im lazy and just copypaste thread anon, even i forgot to link previous thread.
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>>173182173
seent ;)
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>>173182173
Sure.
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Oh shit! It's kripp
Fucking shit guys..
HOT SHIT
https://youtu.be/rvPq2lHNpcI
This is some good shit
Get this shit into your system
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>>173182181
I WANT TO VIOLATE LOU SO SHE HAS TO DROP OUT OF MAGE SCHOOL AND BECOME A SINGLE MOM
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>>173182181
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>>173182173
GURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMNIR
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>>173182173
Here's a starter. It's funny, it seems Isabelle's normal outfit actually covers her armpits.
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>save 1k gold
>OH BOY 10 PACKS TIME, COME ON KIKEGAMES GIVE ME AT LEAST GAYWINE, JUNGLE BUNGAS AND AERIN
>get turn 9 do nothing man, turn 8 wait 3 turns cup, discard your wincon bro for 5
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>173182330
?
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>healing dragon is the new cancer
so its come to this huh? healing is just way too good in this game, it was even ridiculous for haven
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>>173182173
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Is this card good?
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>>173182725
I want to corrupt Roland
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>>173182757
yes but kind of slow
try it out and see if you like it
some guys here swear it's legit
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>>173182725
Look at them hips
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>>173182874
Not even the best part.
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>>173182698
I've been saying that for a while now
All sources of healing really ought be halved.
Would make the game much more enjoyable.
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>>173182725
what a perverse slut, look how she flaunts her armpits
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>>173182173
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>>173182938
Do you main aggro shadow or aggro blood?
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>>173182938
Yes give unga bunga 90% winrate.
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>>173182173
>>/gbfg/

>>173182181
You too with your /gbfg/tier theorizing
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>>173182757
Yeah, it wins me games by trading skeletons into wards.
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>>173183003
Give aggro something like this except changed to "until your next turn" obviously and adjust the cost/damage.
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>>173182757
2 of in midrange.
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>>173183245
Sure anon, sure.
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>tfw you win a lot with your homebrew deck
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Kizuna AI leader for Haven collab when?
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Post elf
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When are we getting those Shadowverse Channel emblems?
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>>173183606
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>>173183614
Never

Non-Japanese kusu foreigners get nothing
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>>173183364
Look, we get it cuckold, it's scary to think that mindless lifegain decks might actually have to play around a card.
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>>173183614
tomorrow
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>>173182181
So she downgraded from a 1/1 tutor a card to a 2/2 do nothing?
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>>173182034
Why is Kaguya pissing in the water that animals have to drink from?
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>>173183667
>unga hostile microbrain
Bunga changa banga too
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>>173183715
>she can tutor herself and be played the turn after that
deepest lore
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>>173183715
But it's a 0 pp 2/2 do nothing card
That's pretty good
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>tfw D0 player prevented a 5-0
Not like I was gonna get 5-0 with my mess of a deck
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Why did he leave?
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So are there any decent Gawain Commander decks yet?
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>>173183779
I wish I could drink the pussy-flavored river water a few metres downstream
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>>173183819
Wow, what a shitpost.

Next.
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>>173183903
Yes, but it doesn't run gawain
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>sword literally became the worst craft
>all new cards are either stupid memes or just average at best
>albert is the only card that remained good through the expansion
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>>173183860
Connection issues, crashing, geez I don't know.
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I did it. I've achieved the memes.

I need a secondary win condition since I'm missing a lot of legos.
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>>173184015
He disconnected immediately after playing it. Almost like he forgot evolves exist.
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Someone give me a good hector list.
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>>173183953
bunga dunga *blows ceremonial horn*
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>>173182149
>Luna softest skin
>um kid who literally spends all day outside fighting animals and attempting to make friends has the softer skin than a nun or a mage
Umm, Lunapedos?
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>>173184132
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>>173183981
Rune is the worst craft right now.
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>>173184309
Why the necroassasin?
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what are the odds of a zero legendary T2 draft?
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>>173184258
Not like you'll have the reading comprehension to understand this post. Don't bother responding.

>play burn
>have to decide which of my things I'll play in what order
>have to play around board wipes
>have to decide when to play a storm follower or a burn spell depending on what might be played in response
>elana healspam player
>curve out with your wards or followers with heals attached until you win
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>>173184110
More like the summoning animation derped his phone. Admittedly I haven't seen MS summon but it's Legend summoning animation alongside summoning 5 of them in sequence can take an old mobile down
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>>173184404
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>>173184404

necro is good.
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>>173184404
Because youll be trading for days against any large ward like Aurelia or Rahab.

Thought about trading an Orthrus or something for a 3rd Necro.
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>>173184401
it just needs a rest after all that rampage in previous expansion
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>>173184097
What did Odin banish
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>>173184570
Hopefully this rest will last forever, fuck Rune.
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>>173183981
Rune is the worst. Dshit can't deal with Shadow, dirt got completely erased by Dragon, and Daria can't beat either of them. They don't have a fast aggro deck or even memefrog to limp along with. Hulk isn't awful, but Cygames made sure their new legends wouldn't matter much this meta.
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>>173184401
Dirt Burn isnt that bad. I think Forest is in the worst spot right now.
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>>173184528
>>173184532
>>173184540
Cool. Alright I'll try this build.
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Oh god...this fairy decks Horrible..I cant do shit without grimmnurs raping my ass
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>>173184097
So wait, is that card an OTK with Arriet?
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>>173184606
Bahamut
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>>173184656
there probably some sick control deck can be build around that new rune legendary, people just didn't figure out yet
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>>173184656
They even released a better hulking giant in the same expansion
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>>173184132
>>173184309
Dont use that shit fucking list. Holy fuck is it trash. Use a variation of this.
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>>173182181
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>>173183981
>give the class with the most cancerous removal and best board flood the best aggro as well
>leave the original aggro class in the dust
Simply epic.
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>>173184803
Yes
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>>173184852
They made a better deepwood anomoly - the fucking elf lego - in the same fucking expansion. Its retarded design.
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>>173184905

nah, that list is shit. Only 2 thanes, spartoi soldier for no reason (don't fucking say shadow generation you shitter), no necroasassin to deal with pepe and big dragon shits.

0/10
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>>173184664
If we go by Shadowlogs, Forest is 3rd best class in terms of winrate. Now, playrates are another thing. Forest is really boring, it hasn't changed at all, it's really sad. It was the case in RoB, and it hasn't changed in ToG, at least for now.
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>>173184905
I like this one better. I can't really imagine a mid range being good without Phantom Howl.
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>>173184979
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i seem to get better luck when i'm sad. not that this cheered me up very much.
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>>173185083
Stuff being boring is never going to be the reason it isn't played, especially if it's legitimately strong
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>>173183614
never its only for the VA's
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>>173184979
That's actually pretty clever, well memed anon.
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>>173185093
It has questionable card choices and 0 draw, if I was going to run this list I would just transform it into full on aggro since thats what it looks like was used as a base.

Phantom Howl is a great card and it isnt something I wanted to cut, but after playing a bunch of games I realized it was a dead card more often than not. Mid Shadow has so many ways to flood the board you almost never get value out of it, yes you give up your Cerb+Howl combo, but I havent felt like ive missed it in this deck.

If you must have some storm ghosts try out Voices of Resentment instead, that way it can double as a ward removal in the late game.
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>>173184656
They released this card in the same set as big guy. They really don't want dirt to be good. Hulking Giant effect should be "can't be destroyed by card effect" instead of "can't be targeted". 12/12 big guy getting killed by bane/ random removal is so frustating.
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>>173184979
Hold up, once Roost is usable again you could use Zell and OTK from hand with that. No good way to tutor it all though.
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>>173184664
Aerin is an incredible card, probably one of the best in the entire set. Fairy Queen as a 1 of is always good too. Besides that nothing for them changed, which is fine because WolfBolt still does 18 damage for minimal effort and roach combos are as strong as ever.

Until a rotation happens Forest will never not be good, the only reason it doesn't see play is because it's boring and Dragon punishes control decks so hard that it's not even worth trying to experiment with CForest right now.
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>>173185198
Dude, how are you sad
You got memefrog
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>>173185083
Just delete Roach, everyone hates it and it's been the one card limiting design space for the class.
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>>173184656
you don't even need a lot of leggos/golds to play dshift or daria
meanwhile almost every gold/leggo of sword became dogshit
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>>173185336
Shit. I was going to write you off as retarded, but guess you thought it out quite well. I'm going to try playing a few free matches to get a feel for it. Thanks.
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post stats
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>>173185468
something something people hate me
not even memeing is making me happy
need a good surge of kys
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Seriously, why the fuck are there zero aggro shadows in unranked? I need matchup experience against them

In RoB unranked was the exact same as ranked
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>>173185567
i only played dragon in rob, and rune is just dirtrune
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>>173185424
There are many OTK combos possible with Roost. The problem with the card has never been what you can do with it, it's what your opponent can do with it.
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>>173184309
-1 Eachtar and -1 Thane for 2 Howls?
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>>173185221
It's slightly above 50% win rate and least played. So yes, if it's boring and only slightly above average, it's a reason for people to not play in favor of the strongest stuff or memes and fun decks. In any case, it's nowhere near the low win rates of some other decks, like most of Rune.
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Soul Glutton is cute.
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>>173185221
I see where you're coming from and I kinda agree with you, but don't forget, there is no incentive at all to rank up in this game besides bragging rights. I think Forest is able to be good in this meta, but nobody wants to play the same thing to win, most people are trying out the new playstyles ToG offers.

We'll see in 2-3 weeks, I might be completely wrong.
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>>173185617
Hey man
People probably don't hate you
Don't be so hard on yourself.
Lose yourself in the memes
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>>173185048
>Spartoi Soldier is shit

No it isn't. When you are going second against aggro shadow, you will learn to appreciate the value of a 1/4 ward.
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Is she still good?
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>>173185567
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>>173185617
Yeah kill yourself pussy.
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>>173185567
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>>173185364
They should introduce mechanic "can be destroyed only by psychical damage" otherwise the whole can't be targeted mechanic is pretty useless.
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>>173185567
Started in late November, early December.
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>>173185567
really needed those standard packs from 200
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>>173185878
No. Tier 3.
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>>173185567
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>>173185567
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>>173185878
In my hearth
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>>173185961
They did, Lecia gives that effect to officers.
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>>173185567
Rate my autism.
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>>173186086
HEAR
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>>173185861
they really do! i'm not even saying that for people to tell me i'm actually nice even though they don't know me
i'm just a shitty person and i cant change myself.

also im just realizing i keep getting legendaries for the insanely expensive decks that i won't be able to build so thats a bummer.

@173185924
i want to
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Luna has no bad matchups.
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>>173185567
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>>173186354
Anyone can change themselves
It sounds like you're just trying to take the easy way out mate
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So early ToG is
Dragon = Shadow > Haven > Blood > Forest > Sword > Rune?
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>>173186339
You will never understand other decks if you don't play them.
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>>173186418
better nerf dragon
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>>173186354
>i'm just a shitty person

as evidenced by your @ bullshit
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>>173185567
I finally reached Masters two days ago and I don't feel like playing for some time.
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>>173186339
So what, you just reroll dailes for other classes and leave them for a day if you can't?
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>>173186231
Thanks Cygames.
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>>173186548
I play other crafts in unranked.
Except ramp Dragon, I'm too poor to play that one
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>>173186637
Unranked exists.
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>>173186504
Early ToG is

Shadow going first > dragon going first > who cares
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>>173186592
didn't want to bother you with a ping
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>>173186504
pretty much
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>>173185567
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>>173186504
why do you have haven so high
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>>173186504
I'd say its more like
dragon > haven = shadow > blood = forest > sword > rune
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>>173185567
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>>173186730
>Dragon has become Jade Druid
>Shadow Pirate Warrior
Full circle. Can't defend this garbage game anymore.
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>>173186752
Not him, but if I were to guess it's because Dragon can't deal with Aegis and Haven bodies Shadow in general.
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>>173183981
luminous mage is good
grimnir fits the class too
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>>173186854
>dragon
>cant deal with aegis

What kind of joke is this?
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>>173186854
dragon can easily beat haven by dealing 10+ damage from hand turns before aegis comes down and not sure where you got that it steamrolls shadow
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>>173186854
>Dragon can't deal with Aegis
what can aegis even do vs zell riding storm bahamut on turn 5
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>>173186568
>nerf dragon
>dirtrune rises from the dead to save our collective asses from luna and co.
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>>173187045
another deck for haven to bully, nice
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No ramp for you
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>want to build dirtrune
>realize it still needs to ride Levi's coat tails to be effective

Fucking hell, Levi is literally the only card keeping rune out of utter dumpster tier.
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My autistic Fairy deck Saved my ass super hard
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>>173186823
yeah it's a 2 deck meta currently, aggro shadow is as bad as roach
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What do you think of twintail Arisa?
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>>173187226
>Succubus
Nice
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>>173187226
ramp dragon is really easy to build around, you either go aggro or go for strongest curve possible

aggro shadow is the roach deck this time around
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>>173187449
Less bland than normal Arisa
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>>173187449
Cute!
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>>173187045
Dirt gets dicked by aegis and probably vengeance blood
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>>173185662
i just feel bad for playing aggro or midrange shadow in unranked.
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>>173187472
midrange shadow is far stronger than aggro
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>>173187449
Cuter as a loli.
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>go on a massive lose streak in ranked
>start testing things in unranked
>nothing matters because it's 100% meme decks
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Need help with daily if anyone is bored: 27029
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>>173185336
You dont need card draw as midrange you fucking moron. You curve out and win. You dont go late game where card draw matters that much. Must be your first fucking card game if you think a midrange deck needs card draw when it wants to curve out and win by turn 5-8 before big threats come out.
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83271
can I get a concede please?
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>saha out arriet when the opponent has 12 hp because she's the only neutral that can clear board.
>he leaves a 6/2 saha on board and fortes my face
>arriet saha to kill him
what the fuck?
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>>173187449
All Arisas are equally perfect
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>>173187780
Youre really angry anon, you need to calm down and think about what youre saying.
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>>173187823
thanks dude
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Quick /svg/ I need to know who has a stinkier butt, Orthrus or Cerberus.
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Can someone post storm ramp build?
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Would you eat Vampy's soup?
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>>173188071
coco duh
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That went well.
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>>173188360
Sword is old and busted, Shadow is the new T2 hotness.
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>>173187449
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I'm 5 ranked wins with rune away from hitting 200, and I kind of want that standard pack but the craft is just so fucked by the meta
I realize I can grind out those wins in less than 20 games but it's so demoralizing to queue up knowing you're probably fucked
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If midshadow is the better deck, how come many are flocking to aggro instead? Clearly Eachtar isn't the issue, since I see even some aggro variant that runs him.
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>>173185617
Frogcraft will always love you. Now go play it
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Aegis is a massive cock and I hate it needs abit of a nerf
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>>173188276
for some reason i doubt that vampy is a good cook
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>>173188738
>Aegis is a massive cock
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>>173188719
i want to play forest but it is way too difficult.
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>>173188668
aggro is cheaper to build
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48927
Concede if you please
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>>173188668
>how come many are flocking to aggro instead
if you mean how everyone keeps asking for aggro dicks, aggro is cheaper
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>>173188668
Cheaper and easier to play
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>>173188738
9 pp do nothing for most of the parts
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>>173188789
I fought a haven as a forestcraft and I did everything I could but I had horrible draws, Nerf should be 2 less powerpoints and the invincibility lasts only for 1 turn instead of 2
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95873
Can I have a concede /svg/?
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Sup shadowbabs, any previous Storm Haven babs? Well this the closest thing that plays like storm haven. Id thought id share, for those who hate playing the other forms of haven.
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1 day until this weeb game killed for good by Hearthstone new expac. Did you preorder your Un'goro packs yet?
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>>173187454
she has a disgustingly large chest!
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>>173188814
Thanks old man!
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>>173189000
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>>173188512
just think of that animated standard card waiting for you
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Post midrange shadow. I'm trying to tinker around with my variant and I want some ideas from templates.
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>>173188946
Thanks! Wish you good packs!
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>>173189000
>Adapt! Adapt! Adapt!
>implying any of those shits will beat jade druid

Yeah, no.
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>>173188952
You appear to be lacking a win condition.
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>>173188952
what prevents you from playing storm haven?

iirc it has 52% winrate or so on shadowlog
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>>173189000
Why does the art look like a 5yr olds nintoddler game?
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Aggrofag BTFO
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>>173189408
Honestly hearthstones art style is possibly more cringe worthy then shadowverses.
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>>173189000
>Tfw no dinosaurs in Shadowverse
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>>173189000
>no new singing trailer

It's shit.
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>>173189000
you have to go back
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>Frozen Mammoth triggers off Daria
Disgusting.
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>>173189542
We have Eris
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>>173188789
you can close your mouth, arisa. it's not that kind of cock.
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>>173189572
So it triggers with Speelboosted followers?
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>>173189542
we have mammoths though
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>>173187904
>titcow arisa
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>>173189632
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>>173189000
This new Monster Hunter looks weird.
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>>173189632
delete this
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>>173189542
Mammoth is almost like a dinosaur.
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>>173188738
Nine turns before the priest drops it.
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>>173189000
But does it have vampire lolis?
Didn't think so blizzcuck
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>>173189632
Yes, yes we do. But I want Dinosaurs.
I'm glad more and more Erisbros started showing up though.

>>173189727
>>173189795
Not a dinosaur
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>>173189542
would love to ride them too, forte?
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tfw you get to use Elf of the Gemstones with Ultimate Carrot to annihilate an entire board.

The new "screw each other" Take Two is the true stories-to-tell-your-friends-mode.

Got to fuck someone's face using pic related as well.
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>>173189906
Dragon are better than dinosaurs desu
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Requesting private match concede 83390
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Is control blood the answer to this meta? I haven't seen it much, most people are playing blood moon meme decks. But it seems like it has the tools for the job.

Aggro shadow poses little threat with vampiric kiss, spiderweb imp, wardrobe raider, and Vlad. Ramp dragon is manageable with enough removal and your own Bahamuts. As for aegis, temptress vampire can provide heavy pressure through test of strength while also prolonging your life.
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>>173190062
still no wincon
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>>173190062
Real blood is Aggro blood. At least the fun blood desu.
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Please help me make love to Minthe! What can I do to improve the deck? Should I still keep Midnight Haunts?
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>>173190062
>Control blood
>Doing anything against good control classes like dragon and haven

Tales from D1.
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>literally INVINCIBLE
wtf i'm going back to hearthstone
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>>173190164
santa
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Should I dust my 3rd Satan and 2nd Olivia?
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>get to A3
>realise the reward wasn't shekels
FUCK
>>173190062
you can still be raped by dragon and probably haven with the board clears
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this class is fucking stupid, will it be another 2 months until it's nerfed?
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>>173190062
Too slow. Dragon ramping in peace will enable them drop fat storm.
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>>173190035
Thanks family!
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>>173190185
>all these one-ofs
STOP
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>>173190007
No they aren't dragons are gay

>>173189918
Yes
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>>173190185
Minthe is absolute garbage. I'm not sure it would even be good if it gave you infinite shadows like everyone thought it would.
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>>173190323
enjoy your new animated glass
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>>173190325
What class, Dragon?
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>>173189632
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>>173190062
control anything but haven is impossible while dragon exists
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>>173190539
yes
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>>173189221
pls help, i just want to have fun with midrange
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>>173190413
I'm confused with Minthe. For example do tyrant still needs 20 shadows for buff and she just prevent shadow loss or Minthe just makes it ignore requirements?
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>Ouroboros in T2
Disgusting
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>Call of Cocytus+Zell
Moderate spice.
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>>173190164
Dragon doesn't necessarily have a win condition either, it just keeps playing fat shit until they run out ways to deal with it. Zell isn't reliable enough to be called a wincon.

More often than not you can just throw grimnirs and temptresses at people until they die.

>>173190201
Literally anything can beat dragon if it has enough removal. I've made a fucking control forest deck that shits all over them.

>>173190329
Fat storm? What rank are you that people are playing genesis dragon in ramp?

>>173190578
I'm starting to think /svg/ has no idea how to make a control deck.
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>>173190685
Minthe makes it ignore the requirements
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>>173190685
Minthe makes all Necromancy effects cost 0. There are some cards that can't be cheated with Minthe (Ghostly Grasp and Deathbrand) because they require in their text to HAVE the shadows to access the Necromancy effect.
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I feel as if this deck is crippling me more then anything, I Have won 3 matches lost 6..so Im unsure of what to remove and replace, some combinations ive pulled have been great but I feel that I dont get enough power going till late game, any ideas that could help me out?
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>>173190906
>Dragon doesn't necessarily have a win condition

Are you fucking retarded?
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>>173190325
>LMAO 4 RAMP
>4
>RAMP
Just play around it, bro.
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>>173189632
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>>173190906
>storm ramp doesn't exist
this guy
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>>173190765
I actually do that unironically
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>>173190906
>Literally anything can beat dragon if it has enough removal.
You do realize that just stalemates at best, right? Dragon right now has like 6 AoE removal and more than half of their deck requires answers.
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>>173190954
stop with the one-offs
you need consistency
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>>173190954
You have literally none of the win conditions for forest.
What the fuck are you doing?
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What is the animal that Luna has? I want one, even though it it probably isn't real.
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>>173190765
I actually do that If I dont have my ouroborous or I have my urd+forte combo on me
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>>173190906
>, it just keeps playing fat shit until they run out ways to deal with it

Not everyone playing the trash SahaLuci build idiot.
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>>173191275
looks like a duck to me
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Someone post storm ramp build please. you guys keep saying it's better than saharamp but no list at all???
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>>173190954
That deck is certainly something

I'm trying to tell what you're aiming to do but besides "put down followers and hit face" you don't really have anything going for you.

Unfortunately you really need roaches to make forest work.
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Lily is basically required in forest decks right?
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>>173191384
What the fuck kind of duck looks like that?
It doesn't even have a beak.
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>>173190954
If I had to suggest cards to remove i'd start with all of them, and go from there.
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>>173191275
It's a rat.
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>>173191275
Mutated pig
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>>173191015
Please, wise D2, tell me of the dragon win condition. Is it the legendary zell combo that happens once every 10 games? Maybe they just play board clears until you quit Shadowverse?

>>173191174
That's assuming you don't kill them. DoD puts pressure on them, or you can use cocytus so they have to answer more shit.

>>173191170
>>173191332
I've been playing at AA2 since the expansion launched and I've seen nothing but slow grindy ramp decks. Where are these alternate decks that you're speaking of?
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>>173191185
>>173191206
I know I know but I dont have much in terms of vials and stuff Im trying though
>>173191457
Yeah I pretty much have nothing and im just trying to make it work, call of cocytus is pretty much a third dance of death and I have terrible luck with the pulls
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>>173191275
Its a fucking mouse you mongoloid
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>>173191275
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>>173191275
guinea pig ofc
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>>173191495
No, not really. Only in control forest.
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>>173191589
pretty huge mouse, then or maybe luna is just that smol
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>>173188870
That would have been true if they didn't print Test of Strength.
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>>173191614
M-Mr. Burglar?
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>>173191740
heh
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>>173191575
>Where are these alternate decks that you're speaking of?
https://syadoreco.com/web/analytics/overview/0/0/4/29

I'm in AA2 as well and I see a faggot running Forte and Genesis once every 5 matches against Dragon. Satan Cat uses that deck sometimes, and I think we saw one or two in the NGE tourney yesterday.
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>>173191275
i have a theory that animal is how luna got her powers

she made a contract
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>>173191586
IF you have no roaches I'd say don't play forest
If you post what forest cards you do have I could try and help you put together something budget.

It wouldn't be great but honestly the deck you already have is just terrible.
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Anyone up for some Bo5, got some decks i wanna try out

13402
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>>173191586
>I know I know but I dont have much in terms of vials

invest in roaches then, every forestcraft deck under the sun will have them
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>>173191878
>fancy dress
>small animal
>life is despair
checks out
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>want to craft my 2 missing alwida's
>know that I'll pull one out of a pack as soon as I do.
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>>173191860
I've seen maybe 4 Fortes since the expansion started. I don't know if that makes me lucky or unlucky.
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>>173192061
>pulling standard cards from packs

As if
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>>173191575
>d2

Pic related you submaster shitter. I'm sorry AA2 is full of retards netdecking the game-ai shitty Saharamp build. Because more than half of the dragon players I meet play Forte, Ouroboros and Genesis.
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>>173192061
They're fucking staples in everything but CSword, do it. It's 800 vials.
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>1 leggo from 40 packs
>its serpent
>spend 30k vials on sneks
>its shit
HOLY FUCK, fuck this shit so hard. What do I play now?
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>>173184258
That would work too
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>>173192123
Depends on what you play. Most decks can't easily recover from an evolved Forte to face, and you're already on a clock to kill Dragon before it reaches 10pp where he can just vomit whatever follower he has in his hand to tip the scale to his favor over and over until he wins.
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>>173192061
>crafted all 3
>never pulled a single one afterwards
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>>173192193
Craft soul dealers and play kys blood instead
>>
I cant craft anything only 50 vials fuck
>>
Did ToG kill Shadowverse? We haven't received the 9 million pack rewards yet. Even with the reroll autists and esports exposure, you'd think it would go up.
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>>173192192
1200

Fine, I'll do it, but I'm never talking to you people ever again if it happens.
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>there are those complaining about shadow when it has a fucking desert rider for legendary

Never change, /svg/.
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>>173192193
>falling for the serpent meme
HHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHA
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>>173191586
Do you have at least beetle rider?
Surely you got some from the free packs for ToG
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>>173192449
it's enough to craft a bronze card
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>take-two
>blood, dragon and shadow
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>craft 3 lucifer for ramp dragon
>literally not a single tournament deck runs him anymore

Fuck Game-ai. You should remove that shit from "useful links" in the OP.
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>>173192492
Fuck off, I'm so fucking mad right now. It was all the vials I saved up from RoB to.
>>
Give me some Yous, boys.
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>>173192469
Theyre going to eventually stop giving out free packs for shit like this.

They already fucked us on Gawain packs.
>>
Are these alternate cards that we got from missions last week permanent? Can I liquefy my wyvern sluts?
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>>173192578
but shadow is great in T2
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>>173192521
i imagine one celled life hunting down and eating the large shark
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>>173192279
Actually this sounds like it could be a dragon card
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>>173192165
Clearly you've never been to AA2, because AA2 fights master players half the time.
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>>173192585
What is wrong with Gamepress? It actually runs the newest decks.
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>>173192663
sword

they already have headpats
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Is this the derank option?
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>>173192783
No, playing sneks is.
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>every deck has to have a ""win con""

It's like /svg/ doesn't even know how to play card games.
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>>173192578
But those are the 3 best classes for t2 tho.
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WE'RE LOSING PLAYERS
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>>173192743
Game-ai is the JP site that make tier list. Gamepress is actually better since they post torunament list.
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck-archetype/ramp-dragoncraft

Literally nobody running Lucifer.
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do you like female quickblader?
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>>173192875
>Caring about the western.
Of course.
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>>173192641
it has the expiration date on the missions
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>>173192783
default sword deck isn't that bad iirc
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>>173192905
>Gamepress is actually better
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>>173192474
Crafting golds costs 800 vials each, what.
That's, are you new or something?

I crafted three when starting out, pulled one the next day but I don't regret it at all. Card's fucking good.
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>>173192928
OSOI
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>>173186780
>dragon
>higher than shadow
Shadow has 0 counters.
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>>173192875
well it isn't the weekend anymore
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>>173192875
Were still gaining more than we lose
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>>173192905
game-ai has better user-submitted decks

gamepress is a place to check for tourney decks
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>>173192983
Steam players are mostly japs, though.
>>
WHAT IS A GOOD SWORD DECK HOLY FUCK
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>>173192610
We were told about the issue with Gawain before the game even went live. They never give packs for warned maintenance.

Nep was fucked after the fact iirc.
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>>173193063
*ramping dragon noises in the distance*
*lightning blasting in distance*
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>>173193123
Japs play on DMM, dumbass.
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>>173192905
>that 65k vials
>dropped aeila
>runs imprisoned
Fuck I'm too poor
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>>173193124
Quickblader x40
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>tfw when you clear the entire board with Cyclone Blade+Pepe
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>>173193196
>that's what the dumb westerner thinks
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>>173192193
>What do I play now?
nothing, kek

enjoy getting blown the fuck out every game no matter what you play now because you're missing all the op cards
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>>173192928
No way, bros before hoes. Quickbladder has been my niggah and helped me secure early leads and topdeck wins way longer than her.
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>>173193124
Just steer clear of Tribunal and Revelation.
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41493, need a concede.
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>spent money on this game again

25 bucks worth of steam cards right there
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Should I trust reddit and craft this shit? I just want to play a Gawain deck, but nobody has really done anything with him yet.
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>one win off from getting a 7 win daily done
>play sword
>nothing but haven
>play d-shift
>nothing but fast aggro or ramp dragon on perfect draws with a loss the turn before win condition
>play elana
>lol only ramp dragon

This meta is fucking garbage.
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>>173192928
She's my favourite Sword card now, her OSOI is so fucking good. I made a deck with Pompous Princess to summon her as much as possible in my games.

OSOI
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>>173192928
It's pretty great, replaced mine alread.
I still like Skillblader, though, so I'll change back eventually.
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Just like dragon all day long, I can't even escape it in unranked.
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>>173193353
post what you got, fampai
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>>173193387
>This meta is fucking garbage.
I agree senpai
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>>173193337
thanks cutie
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>>173192905
>only 50k
>1st place
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/866/jcg-open-2nd-season-vol19-1st-place-zecunsuhensayingli-ramp-dragoncraft
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>>173193368
you'll end up wasting vials and me raping you
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>>173193302
Yes he had a quick bladder and sprayed pee everywhere and got arrested for public indecency
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>>173193368
>Should I trust reddit
You already know the answer.
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>>173192928
She's very cute
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>>173193387
Perfect example of the negative bias in effect, where you're much more likely to remember bad things that happen than good, so in this case you just remember the worse matchups.

Part of why some people think Ramp Dragon has ridiculous win rates when in fact it's almost exactly 50%.
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>>173193387
>had a 7 win daily and need 4 sword win and 3 blood win
>went to unranked
>got it done in 9 matches

What seems to be the problem?
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>>173193368
>seria
>only 2x lecia
>no jeno
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I am sick of dealing with Phantom Howl+Evolve+Cerb, that or Reaper+whatever aggro early game plus Zomby army all in one. The deck itself needs a nerf.

Shadow should like right now be reworked, no new mechanics or expansions will fix this kind of aggro monster. Optimized odds and luck alone are in their favor, and these two items are exactly one of the few things that determines card games. I tired of Phantom howl combo, I am tired of that 7pp party buff. I am sick of Shadow.
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>>173193535
Ok leddit. Now go back.
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>>173193479
Welcome to dragonverse
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>>173192928
I do, but not as much as sanic. The fact that she doesn't come animated hurts.
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Baphomet in midrange blood for grabbing tempting vampire?
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>turn 6 dick-shift

This new sword d-shift style is pretty fun, consistent turn 7 shifts and now sometimes turn 6
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>>173193214

mulligan 3 qb
t1: get 1-2 qb from the deck, play 1 qb, 3-4 remain on hands
t2: get 1 from the deck, play 2 qb, 2-3 remain on hands
t3: get 1 from the deck, play 3 qb, get 1 from the deck, 0-1 remain on hands
t4: get 1 from the deck, play 1 qb, 0 remain on hands
t5: get 1 from the deck, play 1 qb, 0 remain on hands
t6: get 1 from the deck, play 1 qb, 0 remain on hands

what a great deck indeed :^)
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>>173193368
>i can't use my brain
kys netdeck faggot
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>>173193368

It's probably on the right track, I feel really sketch about the Frontguards though. And I'm still not really on the "let's just put 3 Grimnir in literally everything" meme.


>>173193668
>>173193691

It's just the fact that it's so fucking polarized. Every other fucker is playing either Dragon or Aegis Haven, and you end up having to play a deck that beats one and is 40~% or lower against the other or just playing one of those two decks.
It's fucking awful.
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>>173192928
No, the only reason I'll ever be using the dragon one is because it'll allow me to vial cavalier. Not animated, shitty name, and I play in English so I hate that she would be the only Japanese card.
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>>173193387
play ramp dragon :^)
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>>173193781
nerf shadow
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Was Arisa The only character To get a voice change??

and im going to completely overhaul My Fairy deck because these one offs are killing me
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Concede for daily please

65420
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B R O K E N
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>>173193387
>play a deck
>other deck happens to counter mine
>wow what a shitty meta
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>>173191384
looks like a duck to me too anon
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If aggro is so popular why is nobody using Man Eating Mangrove?
I thought that card would cockblock my aggro deck for sure, but I've only seen it once.
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>>173194125
Several cards did too. Not to mention the new lines when certain followers are played against other ones.
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Game-AI updated their tier list.
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>>173194125
True Arisa never changed her voice.
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>>173194142
Thanks!
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>>173193368
You know you're just going to get your shit banished over and over and then complain that you wasted your vials.
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>>173193994
Stop sounding as if pre-nerf daria meta was any better, though.
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>>173194234
Orthrus is my fave
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>>173194237
What is "secret witch"?
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>>173194237
where are the sneks
they are neither control nor aggro nor "vengeance revenge"
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>>173194405
dirt
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>>173194405
Magical big guy
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>>173194237
Kill yourself Shadow niggers. Go play a real fair and square deck instead of annoying the shit out of actual players.
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>>173194237
Running is storm, right?
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>looking at SV streams
>half of them are just an anime picture
>don't know what rank they are or what deck they're playing
>they expect to get viewers
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>>173194182
>AA2
lol
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>>173194237
>discard dragon lower tier than aggro dirt

HEAR
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is playing sword cool now
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>>173194182
Broken what. Dick
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>>173194405
she has a secret
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>>173186504
Shadow going 2nd > Shadow going 1st > Dragon > Haven > Forest > Blood > Sword > Rune
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>>173194227
Only one aggro deck is popular, and you can just as easily shit on it with the typical forest setup anyway.
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>>173194237
>luna has not one, but two decks in tier 1
i'd never thought i'd see the day, everyone say something nice to luna!
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>>173194237
For a second I thought there was no tier 2
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>>173194237
>Vengeance Revenge Vampire

???
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>>173194668
Why would you say something nice to cancer?
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>>173194237

When will we be tier 0 again? It's been ages.
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>>173194360

It was, though.
But then again I was a fag playing Aggro Roach efficiently with a properly tuned list so I didn't really have any bad matchups then.

And at least then Daria made up a solid 60-80% of the shit you'd see more often than not, so playing a counter with a positive win % like Elana's was also more than fine most the time, especially since you ended up countering aggro blood on top of it.

Now the meta is dominated by a paper rock and a rock scissors in a nearly 40/40 split so you're fucked either way.
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I don't get Shadow and meta Dragon cucks. They're like bots trying to accomplish what? That they're morons in-game ironic shitposters?
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>>173194624
>just as easily shit on it
But everyone is crying about how OP Shadow is right now, and I've seen Haven tech in Forbidden Ritual to deal with skeleton hordes.

Go ahead and call me a D-rank shitter or whatever, but I play shadow and I wouldn't say Forest shits on me at all.
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>fell for the Snek meme
>crafted two sneks
>immediately pull two more sneks from packs
>pull a golden Snek tonight
>and three gingers

Anybody got a good serpent deck so I can put these shits to good use
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>>173194723
revenge with a vengeance, revengeance
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>another day of getting endlessly BTFO
>another day of closing the game pissed off
>another day of not completing my dailies
>another day of contemplating ending it all
fuck this fucking garbage expansion i cant put up with this shit anymore the game is literally fucking RUINED
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>>173194237
So do the real Midrange Shadow decks run Immortal Thanes? How many, what are examples of decklists? The tournament lists on gamepress seem to have no idea how to distinguish between Aggro and Midrange and all pretty much look the same, and I didn't see Thane in any of the winning ones listed.
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>>173194668
She has nice skeletons.
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>>173194723
i think it's soul dealer stuff
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>>173194237
>shadow is dead guise my lightning blast got this
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>>173194668
I want to reduce her defense to 3 or lower and then banish her!
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>>173194914
>6PP: banish a skeleton
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>>173194807
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>>173194827
So basically cancer. That's what everyone is saying.
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>>173194914
Well, yes. Nep is tier 3.
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>>173194596
>rabbit ears
>elf ears
>succubus/devil tail
>horns

What the fuck is this thing?
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>>173194829
Forest has the best anti-aggro tools in the game even without Mangrove and can control the tempo much better than Haven who has no early game.
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I'm at the point where I just concede Dragon mirror matches on the spot. I can win them, but I'd much rather play 3 other matches in the same time it would take to complete that one boring match. I could care less about the masters points.
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>>173194237
>literally every deck i used to main is tier 3 now
also agronesco being tier 1 is a complete fucking lie
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>>173195051
A chimera?
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>>173194237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs
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>>173195051
a bunnygirl succubus obviously
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>>173195051
She's hot, who cares what she is.
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>>173195063

Problem is if forest (tempo) doesn't kill dragon (and haven to a certain extend) fast enough you can never kill them anymore. There wasn't such a problem before.
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is this what playing daria felt like? i don't even have all the cards for this shit.
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*casts bloodlust*
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>>173194829
Turn order probably dictates a fair bit, but aggro shadow thus far has been one of the most favorable matchups for me whilst playing wolfbolt. Dramatically so when compared to my results against Dragon or Aegis Haven.

May, Sylvan, AE, Will of the Forest, and Eirin do a fantastic job of dismantling the weenies. And I'm still playing Water Fairy, so that gives me a lot of extra leverage too.
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>>173195208
playing daria felt like bricking 135% of time

it's what playing aggro shadow, blood and nep felt like though
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>>173195208
No
Daria bricked pretty often

Dragon is more broken than pre-nerf Daria.
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How would pre-nerf OTK roach fare in this meta?
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So how often do you see the alternate leaders?
>see more vanias than uris
>see forte about equally often as rowen
>see erasmus from time to time
>see mordecai, selwyn and garuda very rarely
>NEVER see latham
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>>173195051
Generic semon demon in a bunny suit
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>>173195208

No, that's what playing pre-nerf Aggro Roach felt like, only you literally don't have to think about anything at all and the deck basically autopilots for you since you really have little to no real decisions you need to make.
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>>173195314
It would cause Dragon to not exist. Which in turn means Control Sword starts making lives miserable since its main check is gone and one of the things it checks is such a big presence.
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>>173195395
it's a tech specifically aimed at furfags
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>>173195314
English is not your first language, Is it now?
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>>173195314
Easily tier 1. Regardless forest is still tier 1 imo.
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>>173182725
if Aerin didnt exist she would be my cardfu
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I fucking wish I had roaches But I have to make due

What do you guys think of this new deck??
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>gilgamesh dshift
what
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>>173195508
English is not your first language, Is it now?

if english isn't his first language how can it be his first language now? have you cast a spell to make it his first language and ask about its results?
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>>173195552
Israfil is just a shitty Aerin
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>>173195669
Of course, how else would I be sure? Trial and error is still a great method of discovery.
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>>173195508
Which part of that sentence was grammatically incorrect??
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>>173191454
It's not everyone, just one retard spamming this shit, acting like he's a genius for trying out a build that's not exactly new.
>>173192165

Thing is, the SahaLuci engine and the storm ramp both have their pros and cons. Saha is generally better at dealing with aggro decks, since you can often outheal them, and even though it's a bad matchup it can usually fare okayish vs aggro shadow. It also lacks consistency and struggles against decks like aegis that can groove with the slower pace.

Storm ramp will usually beat out control decks much harder due to storm pressure, is more consistent, and generally does better in the dragon mirror due to cards like Scyther. However, it isn't too great vs decks that stack shittons of wards, and it's much worse at dealing with aggro. Might as well instantly concede vs aggro shadow.

So each deck has its pros and cons. And it depends on what you think you're gonna face. They're not really all that different decks. One has sahaluci and israfil maybe, other has Genesis. In tournaments you'd probably run Sahaluci due to it's broader spread and versatility, on ladder maybe storm ramp would be better?
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>>173195314
It's easily the most broken deck in the game, nothing even comes close to its damage output and consistency.
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>be blood
>turn 2
>play the shadow counter
>they concede
3rd time today
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>>173195758
>Xhe doesn't know
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>>173195830
it's screwed by wards and heals

btw, what prevents you to play a deck with no 1pp followers and roach as the only 2pp follower when we are not in an aggro meta anymore
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>>173194237
>eira bishop
Elana? I have like 70% winrate with that shit.
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>>173195896
Read a book, stupid.
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>>173195552
At least suffer as neutralcraft, this is too much.
>>173195314
Current dragon and haven decks got like 6? wards, easy for roach deck.
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>>173195843
you are lucky they don't use zombie party
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>>173195943
did you stick your aegis in your elena deck?
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>>173195941
May is broken, so you have to play her, also its harder to get chip dmg in without 1 drops. I play a 3 may 3 gobu 2 tarzan aggro and it works decently fine
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>>173196067
No, it's the same RoB deck I got to master with last expansion.
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>>173195510
>Regardless forest is still tier 1 imo.

Not even close.

I haven't seen a single Forest shell that actually works in the current meta.
Aggro Forest is getting sort of close but it's still too clunky and inconsistent with a "too many cooks in the kitchen" type problem.
And Wolf Bolt is absolute garbage since it needs to hit turn 8/9 and it can do next to nothing to properly stop Dragon.

It's still great for tournies where you can actually metagame your decks but for ranked play there isn't a single Forest deck I'd trust to win consistently.

>>173195554
>have to wait until turn 8 to win at minimum(could do turn 7 with d-shiftx2 or enough pre-chip damage)
>And have to get at least one d-shift's down to 0 if you don't literally d-shift>gil+buff OTK without needing another d-shift

Sounds pretty garbage and like it loses to almost everything.
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>>173195982
Sure! Recommend me five from your pool of favorites.
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what would be the best finisher for a midrange full neutral deck? saha + gilgamesh?
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>>173196059
Run into 2 people who use it since the expansion released.
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>>173196172
>And Wolf Bolt is absolute garbage since it needs to hit turn 8/9 and it can do next to nothing to properly stop Dragon.

literally the very top of t2 by game-ai

wolfbolt it's just otk with additional wincon and stronger early game on the cost of less consistent roach pulls
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>>173195941
>it's screwed by wards
just wolfcoming

>heals
just wolfbolt
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>luna is finally tier 1

Pretty sad that Nep has to be the sacrifice, though.
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>Elf Queen has Ward.
>Anomaly has Bane.
There I saved Forestcraft.
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>>173196172
he used 2 D shifts to get gilga and used rune piercing to kill me , oh well atleast it was unranked and i was playing my half assed snake deck
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>you have to play haven to counter the haven cancer.

it hurts.
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>>173196369
Haven isn't cancer; it's the chemo.
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>>173196298
Just shows she is a winner learned to adapt and left behind the tactics that no longer worked.
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Does anyone have a control Sword list?
It seems like an interesting deck.
What legos does it run other than 3x Roland and 2x Odin? Does it run Alberts?
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>>173196298
That picture is pretty cool.
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>>173196369

>Forbidden Ritual

How about you keep your hands off the graves?
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>>173196369
>3(THREE) Kaguyas and Olivia

You can't make this shit up.
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>>173196172
Forest is tier 1 in the hands of a smart player. I have yet to see any nips go on a 27 win streak in masters with the other tier 2 decks.
Forest I the hands of a average player is tier 2 I'd say
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>>173196759

gotta cuck luna anon.

nobody runs sexton.
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>>173196671
it is not, it's the most boring control deck out there.
>play ward
>play ward
>play a bigger ward
>Play roland
>Finish the game with le turn 9 albert evo
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>>173196601
A lot of people would rather die to cancer than receive chemo
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>>173196318
>Elf Queen doesn't eat the shadows
>Anomaly has "Can't be targeted by spells and effects"
There, I made them playable.
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>>173196369
Haven is the chemo as always
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Is Aggro blood worth vialing a few bad legos to craft? Missing 6 golds and the Cerberus
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>>173196831

I do. He actually won me a match against Haven just this night.
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>dirt mirror
>i go second
>win with 3 levis
>didn't use rites for jack shit
What's the point of this meme deck?
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What should I make? I already have Aegis (it's shit) and Eachtar (it's really good but I don't have the Keruberoses)
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it's not rape if it's an elf
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>>173196865
Oh, so it's not actually real control? As in, reactive playstyle, and not merely slapping down wards.
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My 1PP can't be this cute.
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>>173196921
Post deck?
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Can they just remove Bahamut from the fucking game?

I don't know why they thought a neutral Themis that pays 4 extra pp to get a 13/13 + amulet removal was okay to put in the game.
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Who else besides Otohime has godly feet?
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>>173195943
Lemme see that dick
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>>173196984
Ah shit, the pedophiles are awake.
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>>173196939

you don't run levi in earth rite.

it's just not right.
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>>173197103
I prefer to be calle an animesexual.
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>>173196984
I didn't know they made double ended dragon dildos now.
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>>173192602
k
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is there a full art of bloody mary? cant find one
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>>173197174
Say that to the judge.

>>173197121
Why not?
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>>173197007

It's pretty budget and pretty bad. I don't know if you want to copy it. I will say this about Sexton, Shadow runs Lyrial, Conjurer and Zombie Party for sure, then it's reaper, who doesn't count since you don't drop him on curve. So if you grab something like Unica x2 and Sexton x2 your curve looks pretty good. You could even exclude the Unica.
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>>173197019
>buttblasted that every craft has access to a 10 (TEN) mana removal
>it can be removed for 5pp with DoD
>or bane, or execution, or any myriad of craft-specific removals
>t. C3
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Quickest way to earn wins, aggro shadow or ramp dragon?

I was gonna craft the 3 aegis since I like Havencraft but seems to be ultra meme and gets rekt by almost anything
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>>173196972
it's not real control, is a slower midrange
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>>173196051
Yeah Dragon doesn't really have any more wards than before, they just replaced Imprisoned Dragon and Gobmount with Grimnir and Rahab. If anything, it's less defense power since Feena can actually kill Rahab.
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>>173197318
>aggro shadow
This one.
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>>173196972
That guy does't know what the fuck he's talking about, the deck is reactive as fuck, because that's the kind of removal Sword gets besides shit like Frontline and Aurelia.

Also,
>Roland
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>>173196806

Nigga fuck off.
D-Shift is harder to plan and properly order than Forest is.

Forest is high on the tier list from tournament performance, because again, it's actually good there due to the ability to actually metagame your deck choices.

It's absolute garbage on ranked as of now since the meta stabilized to what it is.
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>>173197318
Aggro Shadow has both faster games, and a better win rate than Ramp Dragon.
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>>173197318
Dragon is honest and has counters it also plays slowly most of the time. Aggro shadow is disgusting AIDS with little to no counterplay and ends games quickly.
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>b-but muh frog beats d-shift
Dumb frog posters on suicide watch
>>
Do Asins have a hand hack? I just had 3 cucks surrender to me on t1 with my good Dshift hands.
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>>173195293
>>173195308
Yes daria was honest and dragon is the jokecraft

HIP-HOP-HURRAYYYY!
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>>173196831
I do now that Haven has started teching against Shadow more heavily. It's tech against tech.
You lose out on basically nothing by running 3x Sexton over 3x Dark Conjurer. DC is basically just a shittier Lyrial, requiring board space AND another evolved follower in play for his free 1 damage, whereas Lyrial gets it just from the evolve. DC's 1 damage is also cucked by wards while Lyrial's can target whatever.
There's no reason to really run both of them when I could just slap in Sexton and not get fucked by Haven every time I'm against them.

>>173197007
Not that guy, but here's mine.

>inb4 someone hating on Soul Conversion
That shit literally asspulled me a victory today because I was able to convert a shitty Goblin and then topdeck a Cerberus for the 2 extra damage that I needed in turn 7 to win
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>>173194237
what does a wolf deck looks like?
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>went the beetles top decks are just right
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>>173197458
>dshift
>harder to play
>just spam all spells randomly
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>>173197524
Nobody wants to play with a faggot shift.
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>>173197305
The problem isn't that exists, it's that there's no counterplay whatsoever. Last words is the only possible deterrent you can hope for, and they're giving banishes or transforms to every fucking craft. You can't stop Bahamut, you can only react to it.
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>>173197239

>drawings now have rights.

call the cops.
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>>173197519
that's nice, now show us the two dozen other games where pepe deck gibs you on t6
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>>173197592
2x wolf, 2x bolt, 3x aerin, 1x queen
Rest is pretty standard roach combo deck.
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>>173197653
How do they know it's Dshift on T1?
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If you don't feel like playing Commandercraft, here's a pretty decent Midrange Sword deck I found on twitter. 73% win rate over 126 matches in masters.

https://twitter.com/bsmrk_/status/849632751556861952
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>>173197524

Maybe they just didn't want to play against Rune. Like everyone else.
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>>173197442
>That guy does't know what the fuck he's talking about

I mained csword during RoB, lmao
and i can tell you it's the most braindead control deck
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>>173197724
If he didn't slap down an earth rune t1 then it's d-shift because no one plays Daria anymore.
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>>173197661
>You can't stop Bahamut,
elta. tribunal is a pretty good deterrent too.
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>>173197687
can you give me a link/code/pic of that? i have 2 wolfs
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snek is actually good guyz :^^^^^^^^)
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>>173197768
This anime got fucked up.
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>>173197738

>Grimnir, War Cyclone used in every deck

This has to stop. This needs to be stopped.
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>>173197524
im sure their thought process is:
>see rune
>they don't play a rune on t1
>could watch them spam removal and draw spells for many turns then jerk themselves off by playing solitaire for 3 additional turns
>and waste ten minutes doing nothing
>or concede, eat the 100pt loss and queue into an actual match
>hmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>173197890
Oh yeah, just save an evolve until turn 10 and hope he doesn't have a way to kill a 3/3.

Tribunal works if you don't have a board for him to lightning blast, but in that case he wouldn't play Bahamut in the first place. And even if you consider it a deterrent, that's one answer in one class to a NEUTRAL card.
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>>173198052
>overstated ward vs aggro
>extremely good removal + ward vs stormfaggotry later on

Name 2 reasons why not to have x3 grimnirs in every deck
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>>173197973
>sneks
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>>173198063
Never surrender under any circumstance.
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>>173198095
>just save an evolve until turn 10
olivia on t9?
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>>173198052
How dare people run a ward when the most disgusting aggro deck the game has ever seen is infesting the game?
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need a concede please!

84453
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>>173198150
>>173198187
He's talking about the card being OP, not telling people to literally not put it into their decks.
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>>173198173
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>>173197629
>he hasn't seen the new version of D-Shift that runs a turn faster

And besides that ordering casting on Roach was (mostly) inconsequential so long as you knew how to maximize cast count, and running Wolf Bolt is even more trivial because it either double bolts lethal or halves(or more) the amount of roach damage you need to do.

Aggro Roach was harder than any current gen Forest deck and even that wasn't that hard since you only really needed to math out one number.
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>>173198095
dude of all the ridiculous shit in the game, bahamut is the least problematic since all crafts can use him and he's a brick until T10 unlike shit like grimnir, which is excellent on both 3 AND 10. tech some odins if you're consistently getting BTFO by a 10pp card that also ruins the other guy's board state.
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No, seriously. I just wanted to test my Dshift deck. Why do people keep conceding? It's fucking unranked man c'mon.
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>>173198173
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>>173198187

>A ward
>That can clear board
>That can hit face

Fucking increase the enhance effect by 1PP and I will call it acceptable.
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>>173195843
which one is it
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>>173198341
>that runs a turn faster
Hm?
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Ah I hate forestcraft...without roaches its so goddamn hard to get a win, After this Im going to make another deck and just try and win with that
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>>173198382
>playing against dshift
Just test your solitaire shit on the AI fucko.
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>>173198384
well memed
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>>173198271
ty vampy chan
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>>173198187
>most disgusting aggro deck the game has ever seen
>they concede when you drop a ward with more than 3 health
>they concede when you angelic barrage their board

yeah okay bud
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>>173198384
>11PP enhance
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>>173198382
>taking dshift to unranked

hahahahahaha

protip: most japs play on their phone and unranked tends to be where ppl do their missions so they 100% do not want to sit around doing nothing while you solitaire them for 5-10 minutes. you can't be too pussy to do ranked and then bitch that people don't want to waste their time playing your un-interactive deck.
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>>173198579
Stop bullying me. I just want to learn.
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>>173198451

The problem is that even roach is outclassed by all the cards from these 2 expansions. The dev has to either print a better roach for forest or something that can support roach like PP reduction and return effect.
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>>173198183
Even if you somehow manage to have an evolve for Elta, they can just fucking lightning breath you or salamander you and Bahamut later.

Also, he's probably going to Bahamut on turn 7 or some shit, so good luck playing Olivia.

>>173198359
I'm not getting BTFO by Bahamut, my problems with it are on a conceptual level. It's a perfect board clear that anyone can use and nobody can effectively prevent.

His existence makes non-lastwords amulets garbage. PTP and Elana's stopped existing because Bahamut was added to the game. He's a neutral card that invalidates entire decks.
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should I vial my two fairy princesses to make 3 vampy's?
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>>173198637
I have never played it before, I just want to get a feel for the deck.
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>>173198698
Yeah, fairy princess will always be trash
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>>173198663
Even more of a problem is that No Matter what I do Even If I do Get gud Im mostly fighting wallet guys so they have EVERYTHING they need to fuck a noob like me over and I seriously hate it. it really makes the game unfun
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Am I going to get Pepe'd?
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>>173196984
her upgraded art is cuter

>>173197175
for those furfags who are not lonely

>>173197237
like all the arts on sv.bagoum.com/cardSort

>>173197674
funnily but in some countries like canada and russia drawings have rights, drawn cp is forbidden there

>>173197973
she is just misunderstood

>>173198150
not overstatted, very good statted
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>>173198442

Sword Shift
Turn 8 is common, turn 7 is uncommon but happens often, turn 6 is technically possible.

Also requires a different play style and a slightly different decision tree than standard D-Shift.
A bit worse against fast aggro, much better against Dragon and slightly better against Haven(not that standard d-shift needs a boost there).
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>>173198608
>angelic barrage

E6?
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>>173198864

Just fight wallet with wallet bro. Don't be an ass poor SEA monkey.
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>>173198642
I'm serious, it's not fun playing against DShift.
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>>173198869
Why is alt art merlin such a shit
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>>173198698
vampy isn't even run in many aggro midrange decks right now
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>>173198972
Ok but stop bullying.
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>>173198946
Cant help it at the moment, If I could do wallet id probably buy a prebuilt deck so Im not floundering about
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>>173198972

I'd rather play against D-Shift than Dragon or Aegis Haven right now.

At least they need to play cards that aren't removal or life gain on occasion.
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>>173198727
well you sure are doing an excellent job getting a feel for the deck by repeatedly whining on 4chan and spamming unranked

just take your shit to ranked, dshift isn't rocket science and losing a few hundred points from playing an unoptimized deck isn't going to hurt you unless you base your self esteem on your win ratio in a weeb mobage
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>>173198880
thanks for the link
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>>173198996
>crafted 2 merlins just because i like her original art better
>now dshift doesn't even play her
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>>173198918
crap, you hit my ship
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>>173197458
>It's absolute garbage on ranked
What. I play forest and wolf feels t1 or at least highest t2 right now. Aggressive midrange decks counter wolfbolt, but those are mostly fucked by dragon anyway.
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>>173199160
I did the same.

I don't even regret it desu. Merlin is cute and her effect is pretty good. She'll likely find a place in another deck someday.
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>>173198869
Yep, and not even a fire chain topdeck can save you.
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So what's the verdict on Magical Big Guy? Seems like there's enough non-targeting removal to make him pointless. You also can't tutor him so you've got to pray you can draw him at the right time.
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>>173199329
I won.
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Alright now im trying a shadow deck for the first time..what do you guys think??
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>>173198918
I love how angelic barrage is now considered some kind of code for complete shit decks when the card has been in and out of T1 decks multiple times.

This game goes in waves of boards vulnerable to Barrage to boards built to counter Barrage.
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>opponent plays aiges
>continues to play test of strength three times while im try to stall
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Reaper strong
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>>173199510
Good job anon, I actually started laughing.
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>>173199160
I run her as a 1-off
she´s still the most optimal evo play since she can actually kill almost all 4-drops unlike Lou, and requires enemy to trade into her or use removal if your Merlin didn't die on evo trade
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>>173185336
I've been playing with the deck and went up about 1k at AA3 after some practice on free match. This deck definitely works.
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>>173199674
Okay..tell me whats wrong with it..
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>>173199510
>neutral shadow with only 1 neutral
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So is Take Two just whoever can draft the best infinite cards? I'm currently up against a dragon with Ourobouros with no banish offered to my deck and it's just so hopeless

Not even the first time today it's happened
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>>173199510
did you make this with autodeck?
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>>173199797
If there were only a couple things wrong with it I might, but I dont feel like writing a fucking novel right now.
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>>173199797
>shadow deck without 3x hamsa

I shiggy higgy the diggy dang dong do
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is lou autistic
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>>173199654
It's always heartwarming to see my little Reaper grows so big turn after turn.
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>>173199654
that's one fat bird
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>>173199759
The deck with Phantom Howl/Spartoi Soldier or the one without Phantom Howl?
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>>173199859
TotG made T2 a complete joke mode by including Ouroboros and Aegis
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>>173199874
Yes
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>>173199951
in anime terms it's called "moe"
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>Opponent makes a large misplay
>Sudden pause in actions
>Congratulate them
Is there a better feeling?
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More merch added to the Shadowverse Festival website. https://fes.shadowverse.jp/goods/
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>>173199510
Is this a take 2 deck?
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>>173199510

Anon, for starters, use good deckbuilding. You don't have to be a shadow main to point out the flaws in the list.

Like you have Well of Destiny, which could be deemed as acceptable to run if you have sticky followers that your opponent can't clear, but you don't have sticky followers, namely, Catacomb.
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>>173199859
Drafting for value is very important, yes, but you can play around A LOT of highly threatening late game cards by playing aggressively on curve. While hard removal is a lot easier to come by in the new Take Two format, it's still not nearly as common as it is in constructed, so going wide on board presence is a quick ticket to victory.
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>>173200120
What is your goto "woops" emote for when you do those misplays?
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Why is Arisa so cute but so little fan art?
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>>173200120
it was actually a bm because they had another lethal in hand
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>>173199797
Post your Shadow golds and legendaries and tell us what kind of decks you like to play.
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>>173200204
Friendly reminder Lightning Blast is silver
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>>173200248
Arisa is not for lewd.
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>>173200129
One of these days. I might as well try to order those cookies too.
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>>173200120
>opponent loses a coin toss
>spam "SO THATS HOW ITS DONE"

Step it up
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WHY DO I KEEP PULLING THESE SHITS? I already dusted an extra one

Seriously, are there any good decks for these guys? I'm about to vial a couple so I can make golds for my other decks
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>>173200386

Sneks are not bad. Cblood is one expansion away from being broken.
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>>173200386
Just vial them, snake decks are a joke and control blood is better off without them.
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>>173199759
Its the deck used by guys in top 10 masters, so yeah, its fucking good. Making your deck draw dead with shit cards for "card draw" and to kill your own minions in a midrange deck is retarded. Removing 5-7 dmg worth of phantom howls because "theyre clunky" is retarded.
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>>173200129
HNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGG URIAS AND ERIS
and maybe luna too
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>>173200352
>ywn eat luna mama's cake
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>>173200303
A silver that no one will ever give you under any circumstance in the new private Take Two mode. :^)

Pic related was my friend memeing the fuck out of me because the alternative was letting him have even stronger cards like Grimnir, Earthshock Ogre, Daria, etc.
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>>173200386
CBlood is good with sneks, people who complain about how bad the deck is are either too bad at the game or aren't running the right package of removal
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>>173200592
>banished.jpeg
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>>173200386
>complaining about free vials
What an entitled little shit you are
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>>173200045
The one without. Like the original guy said, It's just about having endless zombies and skeletons.
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>wore pic-related to a small event
>peers actually like it

Maybe I should get an ultimate carrot too.
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>>173200247
Depends on the character I guess. Arisa's gasp is very versatile.
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>>173200491
I'll keep the animooted b/c golds spawning golds = value town and either 1-2 extras for now. Won't dust them all just in case they get good next expansion. They can wait for relevancy next to pic fucking related

>>173200443
Yeah, I'm trying to make a CBlood deck that works but I feel like there's just too many different almost-crazy components and not enough glue to make them cohesive and strong like the other top decks atm
>>173200632
Do you have a list? I'm curious to see what's gud

>>173200753
vialing legendaries never feels good.. because they it's a 2500 loss if I need to recraft them later on...
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>>173200526
I want to try this variant as well actually. Soul conversion does end up useless in many situations.
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>>173200838

Nah, carrot's too freaky for public eyes.
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>>173198996
they are different, whale merlin looks cooler, standard merlin looks something for youre bed
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>>173200129
I need that Arisa RIGHT NOW!
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>login
>do dailies
>log out
When does it end? There's no point once you get master.
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>>173200265
I have 0 legendaries and 2 golds for shadowcraft...

madame Lich
wight king
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>tfw you just want to play your new shiny legendary and win with it at least once but nobody lets you

Being arisa must be suffering
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52875 Can I get a concede?
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>>173201027
you play memes
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>>173201030
Give up on Shadow, its probably the most gold dependent craft next to Blood.
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>>173201027
I suppose you don't have the time to grind T2 for more rupees too?
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>>173201046
That is like the meme legendary of the xpac, what were they thinking?
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>>173201046
kawaii shaves his armpits
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>>173182181
I only just now noticed her shorts are crotchless.

CROTCHLESS SHORTS
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>>173201030
Sorry to hear that m8, if you want to make any decent Shadow decks now Reaper, Cerb and possibly Phantom Howl are a must.
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>>173201030

Well, silver is where broken cards are for Shadowcraft as well. That doesn't mean you can't go on without golds, you need a lot of gold cards for midrange, and you still need a good amount for aggro.
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Concede or Suicide please
16881
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>>173201198
More like Emmylewd
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>>173201130
I can make a swordcraft deck though..and a havencraft I just dont have legends for Haven so I dont think I might do it yet
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>>173201198

Designed by your favorite doujin artist.
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>>173201223
>luna will never have any friends
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>>173182181
I never realized how lewd this card is jesus fucking christ
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>>173201148
They (the devs) thought it was shit and wanted to change it.

They (the play testers Cygames has working for them) grew attached to how the card worked in the first place.

They (the devs) decided to preserve the card instead of making any changes in the end due to valuing how people feel.

Expect batshit control forest cards next expac btw.
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>>173201396
Not with those broken shit.
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>Lecia's protection doesn't negate damage from Orthus' fanfare

Uh...Ehm... Shadowbabs?
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Share with me your most fun memes, bonus points if you tell me why it's fun.
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>>173201198
leotard with no panties too

lou is bullied by the other magical academy girls because she doesn't want to dress like that
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are cannons a spicy meme? commandercraft?

why the fuck isn't gawain a commander-class
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>>173192905
>lists still running Imprisoned Dragons and triple Ouro
I'd wait a while longer for refinements.
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>mfw turn 6 Satan
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>>173201540
5pp amulet, that wasn't viable from the start.
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I WANT SOMETHING BETTER THAN ROACH

RIGHT NAO
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>>173201638
You have make them give forest better cards then.
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>>173201343
Guys?? Any suggestions??
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>>173185878
So fucking happy Daria is dead.
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>>173201473
Was Lecia killed? Not even Themis works, so I don't understand how 2 damage will still connect.
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>>173200887
Ginger is already relevant dude.
https://twitter.com/darkness_mare/status/847348458071572482
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>>173201770
>goes second
>has almost double opponent's mana
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>>173201789
10/10 memeing, is isabelle the new rowan?
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So what happened with elf queen i remember people bitching about it
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>>173201991
Fairy Beast is better 99% of the time
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>>173201789
WEW

That's so spicy I'm almost tempted to craft D-Shifts
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2 free packs for the next Hearthstone expansion baby. RIP Shadowverse.
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>>173201984
I'm not sure I understand you meaning my dude.
https://twitter.com/sv_Shino/status/847342517926285312
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>>173201991
The more fairies that die, the more it heals, so If you are at 1 HP and you play it, you get fully healed
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>>173201991
It's okay but you only ever run 1, it's not that helpful most of the time though.
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>>173201739
Thing is, even the cheapest deck requires at least 3 golds, legendaries if played are usually 3x too, with some exceptions. It's possible to make budget decks without legendaries but you would still need to craft additional gold cards.
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>>173201991
She makes you rich.
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>>173202071
Two? Like TWO (2) entire packs?

Holy shit that's gonna destroy Shadowverse.
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>>173201638
I'd like it if Forest got better cards so math retarded people like myself could play it without having to rely on Roach.
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>>173201731

>Elven Mage Apprentice
>3pp 2/3
>Fanfare:If at least 2 other cards were played this turn. transform an enemy Amulet into Pixie Paradise

>Forest of Illusion
>3pp Amulet
>For every card you play, it is counted as 2 cards played (for the purpose of combo)

>Not Zell
>2pp 2/2
>Fanfare: If at least 2 other cards were played this turn, give an allied follower storm and the ability to ignore wards

>Counselman of the Woods
>5pp 5/5
>Fanfare: reduce the cost of the cards in your hand by 1PP each.
>At the start of your turn, reduce the cost of the cards in your hand by 1PP each.
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>>173202225
I think counselman needs to also heal for 3 at the end of your turn
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>>173202107
Dammit so no matter what im screwed..fuck welp its my birthday tomorrow So Ima become a wallet bro and buy some stuff
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>>173200838
W2c
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>>173202071
I have 4 free ones right now. Didnt do the heroic brawl for a "free" pack, but that would be 5. They also gave about 100 gold which is a 6th pack.

This game gives a shitload more. Theres no reason to lie.
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>won't stop winning against lamp dragon with nep
How come bros? They banish my shit but I just put them back on the board. I haven't even drawn Nep in a lot of those matches, just raw Mordecais.
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>>173201789
>disables all effects but evolve ones
Wew :^)
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>>173202373
>6 potential free packs
>actually play the game
ITS OVER FOR SHADOWVERSE
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>>173202473
Most greedy sets don't even run Lightning Blast, because they didn't expect someone to be daring enough to play Nep in this meta.
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>>173202071
>10 cards total
>>173202373
>25
Thank you based blizzard
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>play owlcat
>opponent plays yurius
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>>173202225

>Monster in the Dark
>5 pp 4/5
>Evolve (6/7), gain storm and +4/4 if 4 cards are played this turn.
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>>173202503
Not if she is dead, she is the generator of the restriction. :^)
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>>173202319
If you just want something usable for dailies, pretty much only decks possible are tempo decks that curve well with good effects.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.63FiQ.63FiQ.63FiQ.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63E_6.63E_6.63E_6.6736Y.6736Y.6736Y.63E-0.63E-0.63E-0.6Ejr6.6Ejr6.6Ejr6.6Ejqy.6Ejqy.6Ejqy.63E-U.63E-U.63E-U.5zWm2.5zWm2.5zWm2.6EhP0.6EhP0.6EhP0.6Ei7Q.6Ei7Q.6Ei7Q.6AtG0.6AtG0.6AtG0.6EhOi
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>>173200887
Sorry for not responding sooner, here's my 2k Masters list. If you're not a believer in Odins, you can swap them for other options, but what matters is that you have more hard removal than only Bahamut and Righteous evolve, since you need to be able to deal with Ramp.
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>>173202628
Thats more cards than the amount of legendaries most people pulled this Shadowverse expansion. Blizzard is truly the savior of CCGs.
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>>173202609
>>173202473
I even win against the broken tier midrange face Shadow.

What the hell guys? I almost vialed Nep to craft sword legendaries.
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>>173201785
Enemy had Lecia and Vice Captain on board. I had a chimera on my side. I played Orthus and she murdered Gelt with fireball.

"Immune to abilities" my ass
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>>173202910
Snakes are not control blood. They are a combo deck. You are weakening control match ups to have that win condition. Bahamut is pullable as well, so you now have a weaker win condition option as it is much easier to kill, even for a turn 7 play. Either commit to the snakes or run a more control oriented deck. You are like a hybrid control snake combo deck here.
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>>173201638

The problem definitely with forest is it's like what do you really even combo in it besides roach? Glimmering wings or other weak combo effects? Like a majority of their cards have bad stats, and they haven't really got even many good cards from the last two expansions.

In RoB they got Wolf for wolfbolt, then two neutrals for roach.

In Tempest they get at least elf queen that is very situational so you run one, beetle warrior, crystalia aerin and jungle warden, the rest are just terrible.

So forest is really just stuck with decks from a few expansions ago with a few minor changes because they really have no good way to control the board, they don't really have any sticky or strong minions so they need to close out with pretty much the only finisher they have which is roach or silverbolt while scrapping by the rest of the match. The devs really need to give their combo card stronger effects or give them just better cards every expansion so they can move away from relying on just a roach combo to make up for their shitty statted minions.
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>>173203121
baph is blood cards only.
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>>173202805
Thanks for the suggestion but I have no vials and none of these other cards yet...so Im sortof screwed on that one
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>>173203186
>the rest are just terrible
fuck you one day my rabbitfu will be viable.
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>>173203121
>Bahamut is pullable as well
Excuse you, do you even play this archetype? Baphomet only pulls from Blood followers, and having Baph+Sneks doesn't make you a combo deck. It's just a six-card trainable package you plug into slow Blood decks to grind the opponent's answers out of their hand and potentially win control MUs with. Anyone who dedicates too much of their deck just to training sneks, or considers pure sneks a combo deck, is a fool.
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>>173203121
>Bahamut is pullable as well

Holy shit /svg/ is bad.
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>>173203186

Forest is one expansion away from being dumpster tier. It is funny that while both sword and forest are popular before DE, sword constantly gets good cards from expansion while forest is getting less and less. Forest just need something far better than roach and AE to revitalize the entire class. Btw they have to retain the thinking class status because that is unique and healthy to the game.
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gimme the best frog list in the world or I will eat your soul
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>>173202319
Make sure you keep rerolling for the best legendary roll possible if you're going to drop money.
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>get snek
>make meme deck
I was actually excited for a second
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>>173203402
Here you go anon.
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I feel like Rerolling...Or maybe Just Liquefying ginger, since I probably wont need her
>>173203414
I dont really want to reroll but I feel like..I have to I Have literally Shit
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>>173202910
why wardrobe raider over a squall lancer?
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>>173203461
soul = eaten
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>my forest cards are so shit that neutralcraft is the only way for me to do daily missions
>even then I only win because I run into people like pic related
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>>173203315

Sukuna isn't really that great. For tempo you want Liza to protect your fairies and for control you want Lily to deal with stupid things like Baha Ouro and Mord. Sukuna has no storm so it is just a 2 mana 6/6 with rush if you play her from hand and evolve her.
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Should I liquefy Zirnitra and Ginger to make a viable shadow deck??
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>>173202910
I'll test it out, thanks!

>>173203121
>Bahamut is pullable as well
wew
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>>173203563
It's at 1x just because I had an extra slot and wanted to bolster my Aggro Shadow MU. I tried Angelic Barrage before, but it was just too clunky I consider that to be evidence that Catacomb is OP at 3pp, so I switched it to a Wardrobe Raider since it has targeted small removal and a heal attached, definitely making it better anti-aggro than Squall Lancer since you don't need Vengeance to get full value, and when you do have Vengeance, it can potentially combo with Diabolic Drain as well.
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>>173203390
The issue with Forest was seen last expansion when Goblin Mage turned it into a broken 70% win rate class that had multiple ways to counter the decks that were trying to counter them.

>Forest just need something far better than roach and AE
Those are 2 of the best cards in the game despite the fact they're from the standard set. A card better than them would make Sibyl look balanced.
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>>173203390

Yeah even in DE what did forest really get? Glimmering Wings, Liza, Crystalia Tia and Cynthia?

I think forest is a fun class and I love comboing, but when you want to combo you have extremely limited options and the only scaling combo is roach. The best deck for forest use to be relying on PtP a neutral card because the deck was mostly good at throwing away fairies. I would love if something like fairy princess was ever good and you could actually make use of fairy generators a lot more effectively. I don't know what they were thinking making Fairy Cage a 4 mana card anyway.

Forest really needs to get some more quality cards that focus on comboing, and they need to start giving forest ways to actually take advantage of fairy generators.
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>>173203894
I don't know what they were thinking making Fairy Cage at all. Love getting Anomaly matched with it in my T2 drafts
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>think I'm going to lose this haven mirror since I'm going second and don't use odin
>a fucking cup
why the hell would you use this card except as a prank?
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>>173202225
Make Not Zell work on 4 cards played that turn, would be cool to use it at the end of a big combo after Wolf looks for Anamoly to give it storm.
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>>173204071
I use it as 4th seraph in case my other 3 get banished
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>>173204071
>1 turn slower seraph
>or exactly the same as seraph with even a single point of countdown reduction
>can run both
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>>173204245
>>173204245
>>173204245
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>>173203868
>A card better than them would make Sibyl look balanced.

Sibyl is more balanced than Grimnir, Balance Cyclone. You will see every deck running him not too long from now.

The fact that AE and roach are weak right now means that the powercreep has laready catch on and they need something new. I want next expansion to be dominated by forest and I want everyone to feel like they've already lost once they queue into forest.

>>173203894
>Forest really needs to get some more quality cards that focus on comboing, and they need to start giving forest ways to actually take advantage of fairy generators.

Yep. I totally agree with you. I want it to be centered around combo so that average netdeckers can't just copy the deck and score an easy win, and I also want combo cards to be more powerful, something that can stick on board or has storm, or draw you cards.
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>>173174072
>>173174072
>>173174072

real new thread
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>>173204071
You don't run it in a Seraph list you shitter. That's super anti-synergy because you want diversified threats.

You run it in an Aegis list to create space to Aegis.

If he D-blasts, you follow up with Aegis safely and he loses. If he doesn't D-blast, you drink your cup, and he loses.

I'm farming wallet dragons in AA3 thanks to this cup.
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>>173203894
Forest needs a control variant and better card draw. The need cards like "play 2 cards and destroy 1 enemy follower" or "play 2 cards and turn one enemy follower into a fairy. Draw 1 card"
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>>173204341
Every deck is already running grimnir lol, even fucking pepes.
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>>173204440
Gimme that list.
Here's a cute Moonie in exchange
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Need a concede, please
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Need a concede!

99303
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Forte so based
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>>173204656
3x Sacred Plea, Aria, Hallowed, Blackened, Unica. Your standard Haven early game core.

3x Angel of the Word because shadow/sword exist and because Angel + Blackened = not losing to infinite Ouros

3x Prism Priestess because draw.

2x Forbidden Ritual because drawing one before turn 4 vs. shadow instantly wins you the game, but they are too hard to use to run 3.

2x Cudgel because Cudgel is great in some situations but garbage in others and we can't run 5x Tribunals

3x Tribunals because we can't run 5 tribunals.

3x Radiance angels because we can't run 4 Radiance angels.

1x Judge of Retribution that we really wish was another Radiance angel

3x Themis's

1x Earthshock ogre for ogrewhelming power

2x Grails

2x Aegis

If you wanted to tech more against dragon, remove some of the banishes starting with Forbidden Ritual and put in more heals/wards/aggression instead.

Against dragon, mulligan hard for Pleas/Aria/Tribunals. Play aggressive until your last evo which you should hold onto for dear life. Your goal is to force him to use evos so you don't die to back to back Zell combos. If you have cup on 8, you use it, don't worry about it getting blasted. If you manage to safely Aegis evolve, or resolve a cup, you win.

Vs. shadow just look for early game and banishes. You pretty much will know by turn 4 whether you'll win or lose.
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>>173203652
Clearly that just means forest needs to start running more 2 drops like a real class.
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>>173201223
Fuck Seraph man.
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>>173205758
Sounds like it's worth a try. I'm not so sure on orge, I'd rather use a lion
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>>173206095
Lion's fine, I just have ogre for fun.
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