/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls general

fart

>>173104848

FROM patch notes need to fucking say what they actually change edition

I'm not really understanding the picture OP. I tried to practice parrying on some enemies in 3 and I noticed a lot tend to hang the weapon back before attacking, throwing off my timing.

Or maybe I'm shit at parrying

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>From says they buff useless weapon infusions
>actually nerfs them to be even more useless

am i a retard or is this all that happened

should i choose the name that sounds better or the name that wouldn't sounds weird if i changed my build around later

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I was confused as to why Gael's flipsword was doing so much damage then i saw its actually a blunt weapon so it doesnt give a fuck about armour

>>173116770
Every enemy has animations that imply they're about to attack, only to awkwardly hold their pose for a few seconds, and then release. If not, they just completely lack the startup and hit you before you'd have any reasonable time to react. You see an enemy raise their sword, and then their arm moves like it's gonna start going your way, you dodge, the sword misses, you're safe. Right? Nope. The enemy raises it's sword, moves it's arm like it's gonna swing, you dodge, it holds the awkward "about-to-swing" pose for two more seconds, allowing it time to patter over to where you dodged, and then attacks once your dodge has finished.

Before, like in DaS1, you could encounter an enemy for the first time and know exactly when to dodge because they would move with a sense of momentum, as though they were actual creatures, allowing you to properly guess when you needed to dodge. They had attacks that were kinda bullshit (running torch spam) but they were generally regarded as "that one attack" instead of "every enemy in the game". DaS3 enemies lack it for a lot of their attacks, all to throw people off and make them take just that little extra bit of damage than they would have if the game was designed properly.

Maybe it's just that we're bad, but it is pretty difficult getting used to enemies having multiples of the same attack, just delayed for different times at the point they release their attack. How do you tell which one they use? You dodge, but if they use a delayed version, you'll get rollcaught. You'll never know if they used the delayed version until you either dodge the attack or get hit by the delayed version. It's fucking awful. The only way to avoid this shit is to kill them before they have the chance to attack, which is most effectively achieved through R1 spam.

This game is horrible. But it's the most active one, so what can you do? Not play?

It's probably the smart move.

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when you just don't feel like defending Aldrich's bullshit.

>>173117034
Strike damage is amazing in DaS3

>>173117919

The entire series is stupid gimmicks and gotcha bullshit masquerading as challenge, what did you expect?

>>173117919
>Before, like in DaS1, you could encounter an enemy for the first time and know exactly when to dodge because they would move with a sense of momentum, as though they were actual creatures, allowing you to properly guess when you needed to dodge.

Gwyn swings his greatsword like its a fucking toothpick. guess thats ok though you can just parry him into the ground

is this a berserk reference?

>DaS3 is on sale
>it's cheaper to wait for TFF edition thats coming out in two weeks.

Fucking Australia man.

>>173104848
guys, how's the golden ritual spear after the patch? I'm using it with 12 str, 10 dex, 25 int and 60 faith

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>>173116841
Blood and Poison is pretty decent infusion wise. If there are mobs that are actually WEAK against those status ailments then Rouge n Pine rot is still faster.

Lightning still sucks

Chaos and Dark are still below average but I definitely feel the buff with my high int-faith charas.

I haven't played since release really, what is the SL everyone has been pvping at?

My characters are still 100 from DaS days.

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Low level Leeroy build is done I think. What should I change?

>>173117919
>Enemies need to move in slow motion like the best game every DaS1!!
ok grandpa

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Heavy Mace+10 at 40 STR pre-patch
S STR, 440 AR 1h, 472 AR 2h

Heavy Mace+10 at 40 STR post-patch
A STR, 428 AR 1h, 457 AR 2h

Does anyone on PS4 have a spare Corvian Greatknife? I want to use it on this new char I just started, but I've already used up all my Rusted Gold Coins trying to get it to drop. Also if you'd happen to have a Ringed Knight Hood on the same character, that'd be lovely.

Wait did Blessed get an AR nerf?

>>173117919

There is plenty of shit in Ds1 that has retarded delayed and gotcha bullshit swings, like the skeletons/dregs at the fucking start. They windup, wait, then swing then their next swing is hyper fast bullshit

>>173127721
Looks good
You might die from a gust of wind though.

canvas talisman or sunlight talisman?

for supplemental miracles, not a dedicated caster build

FOR FUTURE REFERENCE

Raw infusion got buffed on weapons that previously would have had better AR from just the base stat requirement with scaling.

Raw infusion got nerfed on the ASS and apparently the Corvian Greatknife, possibly others too.

Lightning, Blessed, Dark, Simple, Chaos and Crystal infusions lost some INT/FTH scaling damage, gained some more STR/DEX scaling damage

Deep and Fire infusions have gotten increased damage

Heavy infusion nerfed slightly on smaller weapons (eg. daggers, straight swords), also nerfed slightly on lower tier upgrades

Sharp infusion (supposedly) buffed at higher DEX levels, STR scaling with Sharp seems lowered.

Hollow infusion assumed to be unchanged

>>173127694
200

>>173127873
>>173127741

>>173127721
Nice equip load.
Have fun getting shat on by some R1spamming shitter and his pose of level 120s.

>>173127518
Poison is pretty strong against Gael.

>>173127721
>heavens, he was already dead
good luck anon

>>173117919
>hurr what are mushroom faggots

Literally worse than any of the "lol I'm gonna attack any moment now!" attacks in 3.

>>173127891
>Lightning, Blessed, Dark, Simple, Chaos and Crystal infusions lost some INT/FTH scaling damage, gained some more STR/DEX scaling damage
Is this a buff or a nerf? Honestly seems more like a nerf than a buff.

Also how bad was this?
>Reduced damage for L1(LB) attacks, and increased stamina consumption for L1(LB) attacks and weapon art "Ember" of "Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords"

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How's this for my edge character?

>>173127973
Its a """""buff"""""

>>173127908
OH COME ON GODDAMMIT

>>173127721
>403 health

Wow.

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>>173127824
Actually never mind, just got the Greatknife to drop. I still need the Ringu Hood though, so if anyone has a spare I'd be really grateful.

>>173127793
The correct solution would be to lower physical scaling but have higher base damage and keep elemental damage as it was prepatch. This way elemental infusions won't be complete shit because 100 AR won't be almost entirely negated.

>>173127984
>wearing shit filled pants
not very edgy desu

So did RAW Dragonslayer Axe got better or not, its the only thing I wanna know

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>>173127721
Wouldn't this headpiece look more similar to Leeroy's ?

>>173127721
Change into iron leggings if you'll go with that
I'd recommend building the fashion around outrider helm instead. Remove gnawing. Change the shield, it just looks bad. The design of millwood shield is kinda similar to Sanctus and it has regen. Slap on prisoner's chain. Starting as warrior would probably have been better

>>173127890
Why not Saint-Tree Bellvine?
If you are just buffing yourself then Spellbuff isn't really important and the increased casting speed is sweet.

Otherwise Canvas

whats the source of the design works?
amazon?

>>173127891
>they actually nerfed the elemental infusions
I don't even

>>173127879
That tends to be the biggest problem. Morne's hammer is a bitch.

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>>173128060
What'd you recommend then?

WHERE WAS KAATHE. I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE KAATHE IN THIS DLC.

>Reduced damage and scaling of heavy infusions at lower weapon levels
NOOOOO my 400+ AR 2handers at SL 16 + 2

it was fun while it lasted....

>40 Dex/60 Fth
>Lothric SS
>340 AR
Will it ever get buffed?

>thinking of starting a spellsword-pyro with a flamberge
>pyromancy needs faith and int
>flamberge scales best with quality so str and dex
>still need vigor, endurance, and att to cast spells
shit what do
40/40 str/dex, can I get away with 20/20 int/faith? I'm mostly interested in carthus flame arc because a burning flamberge is pretty much the entire reason for that build, but some extra fireballs might be nice.

>>173128176
I wonder if my 40 str +6 Greatlance is gonna suffer too much

>>173127908
>New raw longsword is better than the new raw ASS
At least i can run a raw straight sword on my sorcerer without putting points in FTH..

>>173128153
Kaathe's dead man

Redpill me on the Rat King covenant

>>173128153
He's dead

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Did you rike it?

game was literally perfect before this patch

>>173127984
Use lorian's crown instead. Ditch favor and get dark clutch, you're an edgy cunt. Cut down on that end and get 10 more dex and 3 more hp. Fallen knight isn't particularly edgy, unless if you're going for the silly kind of edgy

>>173128216
>greatlance

You can hit people with that thing?

>>173127891
>int/faith infusions suck and need a buff
>lets make them scale less with int/faith and more with strength/dex
ecks fucking dee

>>173128272
Hence the patch :^)

>>173128196
You could try making the Flamberge Sharp and investing only in Dex, then dumping the rest of the points into Int/Faith. I got away with doing something like 25/25 on my Dex/Pyro build.

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>>173128235
You can become a dungeon master.
Drop treasure throughout your dungeon and hide in some corner while invaders run through your magical realm.
It actually gets old real fast and waiting for invaders is boring.

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>>173128271

>>173128271
>Alright we need to make elemental scaling infusion better, what do ?
>Decrease the faith/int scaling, increase the dex/str scaling
>B-but master miyazaki...

>>173128285
It has a pretty shit hitbox sometimes but its for a Maldron cosplay and it still works wonders for harassing people in Irithyll Dungeon

>>173128075
Thinking about it, but haven't killed Yhorm and Aldrich yet.

>>173128082
Thanks for the advice. Sad about the warrior thing, but I'll try and make it work with the vigor and vitality downgrade.

>Fight Lorian Cosplay
>He uses collapse after every attack causing him to get hit by fast weapons
>He still does it
Goddamn thats some dedication, now i'm kinda sad i didnt off myself to give him the win; that shit was hilarious

>>173128271
>nerf elemental infusions
>buff sharp infusions
>nerf spears of the church
Fuck you, Miyazaki.

>>173128196
Minimal stat investment for Flame Arc.
at 20/20 int faith it doesn't add enough to be worth the points spend on it.

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>From says they will buff Blessed Gem
>they nerf it by about 5%
Maybe we don't understand Japanese enough

>>173127721
>level 35
>that HP
oh lawd

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Thanks From, you ruined my SL100 pyro build. And it wasn't event that good lmao, now it's useless

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>>173128283
I go by recommendations. Was thinking of wolnir's since it actually shows the face. I could replace oscuring for dark clutch, would also save time since I wouldn't have to get another covenant item. How much end would you recommend?

>>173128305
That sounds reasonable, I'll try that. Thanks!

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>>173128334

>>173128226
>>173128241
THEN WHY DOES YURIA SERVE HIM HUH. WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE HE IS DEAD. WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE SERPENTS.

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>>173128457
>we're going to buff gem scalings
>nerf them even more

>>173128542
Why do Christians serve Jesus?

>>173128542
Japanese dialogue for Yuria when she dies explicitly states Kaathe is dead. Something about his dying wish.

The serpents are dead anon.

>>173127984
No Dork Edge/10

>>173128457
Elemental infusions are all about str/dex now.

>>173128457
>Raw: 275 / 308
That's a 12% increase.
If we assume the raw broadsword got the same increase, it would be better than pre-patch raw ASS.
>327 VS 322

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>>173128457
>Let's buff elemental infusions !
>Manage to fuck it up worse than before

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>>173128542

>>173128592
>No reason to use Elements on Physical builds
>Elements make casters semi-competent in melee without relying on a 60 seconds countdown to shit AR
>Hey lets buff the physical scaling on elements

>>173128470
I'm half certain 27 is the softcap, which is why I told you to get that low, simultaneously hitting the softcaps for vig and dex. Not sure is 60 dex would be better after the patch, though. Lorian's seems edgier to me, partly because of the half hidden face. And you're edge incarnate, you don't need anyone's favor but if you really can't live without it, get the +3 version from the dlc

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>that part of the game that makes you take a break from your NG+ run

Whats her name /vg/?

>just got to farron swamp for the Xth time
>cant even be bothered to do the 5 minutes of running it will take to get to abyss watchers

honestly the first act of this game is almost indefensible.

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>>173128640
I completely forgot about that, someone told me to use dark pyromancies. What staff should I use for dark edge?

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>>173128457
>went to bed in a good mood because my shitty mage build was getting a buff
>it's borderline unusable now

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Isn't it great Blessed weapons got nerfed guys? They were so overpowered. H-ha ha.

>>173128760
Undead settlement

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>>173104848
I found another reference to the last Berserk chapter...

ouch that raw flamberge nerf for lowbies :( use to hit 243 at +2 it's down to 213 now.

>>173128289
>gee, these elemental infusions kinda suck since split damage gets fucked by our defense/resistance mechanics
>oh, I know, lets buff their physical damage so the portions of AR are more relevant and get fucked less
>we should do this by reducing how much the base AR gets reduced by the infusion right?
>NO LETS BUFF THE PHYSICAL SCALING, BETTER NERF THE ELEMENTAL SCALING TO BALANCE IT THOUGH :^))))))

Yes I am mad.

>I get 556 AR two-handed on a Chaos Zweihander with 60/44/9/9 STR/DEX/INT/FAI
What the fuck

>>173128814
r u stoopid?

>>173128776
I don't know lol. I never used it.

>>173128781
>Blessed Longsword had semi-decent AR for my keep-away regen character
>Nerfed into the ground
Man and i was still salty they fucked my Fth/Luck build with the Anri nerf.
>Simple still has shit regen
FUCK

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>>173128730
I see. I had an edgy school shooter character with 27 vig before, so I guess I can do that.
Honestly I'm just keeping favor cause it's kind of an habit. Most of my characters have favor + 2 rings + untrue dark ring

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This patch

>>173127518
Do poison/blood gems work well in PvP ?

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>>173128905
mfw

>>173128814
a dog. 10/10 THE MASTER DOES IT AGAIN

>>173128760
Cathedral of the deep, easiest boss in the game was put in the worst zone, at least for me

>get a little over halfway through the game
>used all my respecs
>dont want to start over from the beginning
>build is shit and dont want to finish
guess i'll just play something else..

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>>173128905
>this patch

>>173128814
>tfw Miyazaki can predict the future

>>173117919
The biggest issue for me is movement. For an enemy you've never seen before who has confusing animations, it should still be intuitive to be able to judge their size, arm length, weapon length and then figure out where they should be able to reach. If you can judge range and position correctly it should be possible to out-space things without knowing their exact animations. This is very much a thing in DS2.

Except... In DS3 everything has magical rollerskates or rocket boosters to fuck you over if you try this. Instead of an attack's range being set by the model's step, arm and weapon length, the model will animate a step forward but then just start gliding at the same time and hit you from 10 steps away.

This all stems from the roll being too fast. They started with a roll that was nearly unpunishable, and then had to make enemies which could punish bad rolls and catch skilled players out occasionally.

>>173128984
save edit the build

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>>173128905

Since pure faith builds are fucked, what's a good weapon for dex+faith build? Help pls

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>>173128905
This "patch"

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>>173128641

Not really sure how to feel about it but overall I find it helpful. Raw ASS getting nerfed doesn't bother me at all because there's other options and the nerf isn't too big anyways. RKTGS getting a nerf is nice considering how every movement you make using it's moveset staggers people plus it's damage was just a bit retarded. Inifnite combo gone on PGS is very nice. Boss invasions are back, that's nice.

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>>173128905
>mfw

>>173128895
ahah nice, don't understand why the "some of you are ok" reference tho.

>>173128271
Bloodborne was better. Unlike the memers who take the it's-all-M's-fault meme seriously, I know it was Tanimura and the no-name and executive meddling that actually fucked everything up.

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>>173128905

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So, Haidmaiden's Dagger + War Banner is apparently new meta

Watch the FP bar

>lightning dsa is now better unbuffed than raw DSA with 60 faith yorshka's chime lightning blade

t-thanks i guess

>>173129096
Don't go to school tomorrow

>>173104848
Is there a way to reset your rebirths other than NG+ or savescumming? I currently have 0 respecs left on my SL50 invader and no previous saves on hand. I can't be arsed to kill Soul of Cinder and unlocking all the areas of the game again.

I've heard it's possible to reset the counter back to 5 using Cheat Engine but i can't find a guide how to do it. Can it be done? How?

>>173128781
It makes me mad desu

>>173129092
yeah ill admit some things i don't mind about it but damn did they drop the ball on some shit

>>173129031
i'm on console

you used to be able to do that on 360 if you had a USB stick, just move the save onto the usb, plug it up to a computer, and edit it from there however you wanted. those were the days

>>173129162
thank you

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>>173128862
I guess I'll use Heretic's Staff since it's the edgiest looking. Unless someone that has the DLC can gift me Preacher's Right Arm.
>>173129096
Some of you are ok. Don't go to school tomorrow.

>using Drakeblood VS Ultra weapon
>Get clapped on after i die because i was 'too passive'
Excuse me yes i'll walk into your giant fucking axe with my 7 vit and this patch.
Fuck outta here

>>173129136
fuckin told you lads

best weapon for a carthus beacon build?

is a paired weapon required or could I use a scimitar?

xD
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
xD

>>173129136
is it still better refined than sharp?

>>173129293
sharp sellsword twinblades
bring the pontiff ring that boosts your attack and put the wolf curved sword on your back

>>173129294
no raw. no refined.
fucking cancer.

At least the glitch to enter boss fight as a purple is back

whoever said in the last thread that you can do the boss invasion glitch with Heal Aid instead of force was full of shit

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>>173129294
You insolent fucks.

>>173104848
Is it me or the best place for invasions is lvl 35 Road of Sacrifices ?

I feel like this place is heavily populated.

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>>173128905
>buffed sharp infusions and dex scaling
>my sharp gotthard swords LOST 11 damage
Literally what the fuck. How did they manage to somehow nerf every single "buff" they were supposed to do?

I'm trying to make an epik meme video on dks1, what's the cool trainer to use right now ?

>>173128992
Yeah, that guy is impressive.

>>173128895
>Tyrone
WE

>>173129294
>play str, dex, or a str/dex + faith/int hybrid or get fucked stupid niggers

What did Miyazaki mean by this.

>60/60/60/60 Dark Longsword+10
>pre-patch: Physical: 99+91, Dark: 128+219
>post-patch: Physical: 118+151, Dark: 106+132
>now has lower AR
>now has worse split damage
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions
xD

>>173129421
>Dex scaling goes from B to A
>Loses damage
From Software, everybody.

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>>173129501
>Be noob player
>Find magic sword
>"Oh cool. This is awesome."
>It's worth less than a common sword.
mfw

>>173129136
Still isn't fixed? Told you guise.

>>173129580
>>173129421
Base dmg is sometimes more important than scaling

>>173129631
But the base damage stayed the same. I just lost scaling damage and nothing else.

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>>173128051
>>173128051
>>173128051
>>173128051
Bumping, in case anyone has one.

>Patch comes out tomorrow
>Fixed an issue where incorrect INT/FTH scaling was applied to Lightning, Blessed, Dark, Chaos, Simple and Crystal infused weapons
>Fixed an issue where incorrect DEX scaling was applied to Sharp infused weapons
Things that will never happen

>>173129293
dancer's swords

Give me some ideas for a Death Knight cosplay.

I was thinking about using a greataxe or a greatsword, and use the Darkwraith helm. But other than that im lost. Maybe some frost magic

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fuck that ending sucked. wish next time they try end trilogy better

I like how butthurt people are over this patch

xD
>dark longsword at 10/10/40/40
xD
>379 ar
xD
>deep longsword, doesn't have any stat scaling
xD
>407 ar
xD

>>173129761
It's already been said but what probably changed is the STR scaling. If you're comparing with a build that has a lot of STR, you're probably getting weird numbers. Reducing STR scaling and boosting DEX scaling above 40 would be a good way to fix Sharp.

>>173129841
Soul of Cinder was a good way to end the trilogy.
The DLC just seems to be a giant fetch quest for painter girl without anything great coming out of it.

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>>173129883
please be lying

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>>173129883
Should've gone 40/40/40/40 obviously.

>>173104848
>>Dark Souls III Design Works
were digital versions of DaS I & II deisgn works released?

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>>173129883

>>173104848
Doing a 40/40 INT/FTH build, planning on using Demons Scar, Onyx Blade and MLGS as backup

Have two questions though, i also want a lightning weapon to cover my bases, is Raw Dragons slayers axe still good? Also, what kind of chime/talisman should i be using? Only for LB, not going to use any offensive miracles

>>173129294
>>173129501
>>173129883
I don't know why but I find this absolutely hilarious.

>>173130073
I know there's one for 2, unsure if there's one for 1

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>"Was it + or -, I always forget?"

I keep noticing something and Im not sure if im just unlucky or if this is a "Feature" of the DLC. for some reason I keep Zeroing out enemy Healthbars but they dont die. I have to Kill them, then hit them 1 more time for them to actually die. its getting annoying.

Ringed knight spear 40/40 or 66/17 or something?

>>173130150
If it's players, they might be using ToD. If it's pve, you might be unlucky. I remember in certain instances in ds2 I would do less damage than usual just to keep the enemy alive and fuck me over, but I don't think this shit was carried over to ds3. Are you on ps4 perchance?

>2017
>People still try to block bosses' super attack(DP Laser, DSA Overhead lightning, Lorians Blessed wave)

>>173130150
I noticed this with DLC1

The enemies I think all have a passive blue tearstone effect, a subtle one. Just to make them that much more annoying.

Some enemies in the base game have this too.

Those ghost fuckers at anor londo with the claymores. I swear you'll hit them for over half their health in one hit, but the second hit doesn't kill them.

>>173128689
>>173128605
NOOOOOOO I WANT ANSWERS. WHAT WERE THEY.

>>173130293
>full DSA cosplay build against the man himself
>block everything and laugh in his face
Feels good, man

>>173130293
demon prince laser can easily be blocked with a fire resistance shield, it barely does damage even in higher NGs

>>173130293
>people use shields at all

>>173130401
DP's second lazer should be as punishing as midir's lazer

it's the most telegraphed attack in the game but doesn't do much
other DP's spirit bomb is way more crazy

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>spears of the church 1 vs 4 prepatch
>good players will have a chance
>spears of the church 1 vs 4 post-patch
>lmao, hope you brought lube for this fine assfucking you are going to get

Haven't played since TRC dropped and going to make a full on weeb run. With how things are, is it better to go Hollowed 2Kats + Carthus Rouge or would just Sharp be best?

>>173130293
>>2017
>>People still try to block

>>173130286
xbox. i seem to be doing just enough damage that with about 3 astora greatsword power attacks at those new red knights and those giants that they have 1 hp left.

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Cuckmundi has already confirmed that they fucked something up. Not sure if it's a genuine mistake or if they're just trying to save face, but they've noticed the reaction.

Now we just have to wait two months for the next patch. :^)

>>173130541
Carthas Rouge got nerfed just to let you know. Bleed builds aren't as cheese as they used to be.

>>173130661
Alright, might just go Sharp then.

>>173130640
in what world is it intentional and not a mistake?

>>173130640
this patch took like, what 2 weeks to arrive

>>173130640
>AND ITS NOT WORKING AS INTENDED

Learn your fucking interns how to use a COM-PIJU-TUR you lazy nips.

Fucking neckbeards from reddit and /dsg/ found out the values were skewed within 2 hours of release on PS4.

>>173130640
Multi-million dollar company at work, gentleman.

>>173130640
I just woke up, what's this about?

>>173130640
>miscalculation
So this anon>>173130143 was right.

>>173130471
Yeah, if you interupt DP Laser form he wont shoot the second laser.
But doing the same to Spirit Bomb DP will just make the bomb not track but it still fires off

>>173129136
>>173129596
>>173129240
welp the results are in and that shit even works on chaos blade and smoughs/butcher knife.

>>173130541
>>173130661
>>173130717
Bleed is still great for PvE though, not as ridiculously good and I don't actually know if there are builds with better DPS but any boss that can bleed is still eazy-cheezy with rouge and weapon with bleed, just takes few swings more to get the bleed.
Dunno how useful bleed was in PvP before but it seems to be pretty much useless now as it's really fucking hard to proc it.

>>173130771
This was a regulation, not a patch.

>get summoned for a spear post-patch in 4vs1
>i still take normal damage getting spawnkilled just after spawning
it's amazing how much of a "fuck you" can one patch be

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Can someone share with me the secrets of making a decent early Pyro build in DS3?

I feel like at level 55 it's impossible for Pyro spells to be even remotely worth casting when I could just bludgeon shit for 10x the daamge

Why do people dislike the 2nd half of ds1 compared to the first?

>>173130854
This is gonna be in an interesting few set of weeks before they fix it.

Fine Japanese QA at work.

>>173130801
>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions

Except they didn't. They made all of them considerably worse. A Deep Longsword at base reqs now outdamages a Dark Longsword at 40/40.

>persona 5 can't be streamed
>enb still refuses to play ringed city

kek

>>173130885
Pvp or pve?

Whoah guys so I've been pvping with the new infusions and crystal infusion is actually viable now.

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Has anyone tested how much less boni you get as a spear of the church yet?

>>173130983

Using it mainly for PvE. Might bring it out in PvP later on but I don't really care for caster PvP.

>>173130937
Fucking wow. Don't they test this stuff?

What's the lore behind Sir Marcus Of Mississippi ?

>>173130885
>I feel like at level 55 it's impossible for Pyro spells to be even remotely worth casting

You need to be at 30/30 int/fth or 40/40 for good damage.

Low level pyro/sorc/fth builds simply don't work

>>173130790
The difference is, those neckbears actually care about the game while From Soft employees just see it as work.

This has to be a mistake by From.

>Increased damage and scaling of simple, crystal, fire, chaos, lightning, dark, deep and blessed infusions

My lightning mace does way more damage now, but that's only because of the physical damage increase

My lightning longsword lost 3-4 AR.

>>173130958
>persona 5 can't be streamed
There are plenty of people streaming it now on twitch.

>>173130958
Should we hire a prostitute to date him and break his heart?

>>173131023
How are you lacking dmg at level 55?

You litterally just spam vestiges, chaos orb and thats it. Third spell is viable, and depends on what type of enemy you will encounter.

My pyro playthrough was easy as fuck.

>>173131032
No. They're very clearly incompetent and have been for years.

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>>173130523

>put my summon sign next to ringed city inner wall to help people with midir
>get summon by a duder
>he already has 2 white phantoms
>take the elevator past midirs hole
>Oh we're gonna go 1v4 someone...okay....
>painting guardian is dead before the guy gets summoned in
>soul stream him as he spawns in to put him out of his misery and make things quick

From did a good job ruining an already mediocre pvp boss fight

IS THE GAME DOWN FOR THE PATCH NOW?

CAN WE HAVE A FC WHEN ITS OVER?

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>>173130073

DaS2:
https://mega.nz/#!HYthHCpC!3wbS8TIluZyusyvfOx98BYs4xX3JnW36ucxtmG_YjiA

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>>173131023
this is 20int/fai and a +4 flame

i killed gundyr and dsa with ease with 25/20 and a +6 flame

it's all rings

>>173131187
So they ruined the one boss that punishes people for summoning? How fun.

>>173131265
wow dude thanks :)

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>>173131273
>>173131023
25/20 with a +6 flame

>>173131012
Depends on the amount of summons.

From my experience in the last hour they nerfed damage absorption by about 50% in the 1 vs 4's.

>oh you want to do caster build?
>fuck you, you do melee build!
thanks miyazaki, you can do no wrong

>>173131187
>painting guardian is dead before the guy gets summoned in


Well that is how it usually goes. The host is dead if he can't manage to kill the first one quick(especially if host is alone)

>>173130885
it really depends on what you want it for but here https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/165054

>>173131352
Man I wish DSGA's skill was DSA's stance instead of Falling Bolt. Falling bolt is nice and all but that stance is rad.

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I'm checking my older characters again and I'm editing them. Taking away everything that's about having a strong character and instead remaking them so they fit their stereotype more. Starting with M'lady. discarted the candle dagger and rapier, changed havel and dragon rings for (white) knight and schollar (euphoric int) and put all his vitality in other stats. I'm not sure which spells would work best for him but just kept these. Also all his katanas but this one are crystal, so I guess I'll make this one crystal too.

>>173131273

Humor me here, I've never bothered with casters. What rings are you using? I get about 300-400 using Dark Flame on Friede and I know it hits a weakness so something I'm doing is wrong.

>>173131297

idk I mean prior to the nerf I thoughti t was pretty aids from the player POV. It took me 8 attempts to kill it and 7 of those were just some faggot with the meme swords chasing me around while two painting guardians threw knives at me and healed him (I didnt realize a second guardian spawns when you get the invader to half hp and it wasnt based on time).

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>>173131297
No but you see, you get free lightning soul mass and infinitely respawning annoying but easily dispatched mobs! Also you get some slow as fuck lightning ground waves.

Yeah

>>173130958
>enb still refuses to play ringed city
Why

Why am I getting invaded in boss rooms now?
Why am I getting hit by people doing no animation and just walking around?

Should i take my 80 or 125 through to NG+? First reply decides.

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I'd like some help with my cancer build.
Any suggestions?

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FROM PLEASE

WHY

>>173131485
How about Old Moonlight, he seems like the guy that'll claim "well actually the older FromSoft titles were better"

>>173131489
are you sure BLACKFLAME freide is weak to dark?

anyway
offhand bellvine so you don't need sage ring
then 2x pyro rings, whichever clutch ring is relevant and lloyds sword ring

>>173131554
125 characters aren't worth playing, so 80.

Whats this Ive been hearing about people getting invaded during boss fights?

>>173131546
The glitch is back

>>173131546
>Why am I getting invaded in boss rooms now?

New glitch


>Why am I getting hit by people doing no animation and just walking around?

Bad connection.

>>173131598

I'm talking her initial phase I'm only seeing 3-400 which is where it gets weird. The boss itself is fine I can just melee the last phase, I just don't know why my numbers seem so low.

>>173131546
>Why am I getting invaded in boss rooms now?『Force Casting』 aka an application of 『Tumblebuffing』 has momentarily returned.
>Why am I getting hit by people doing no animation and just walking around?
You've taken the wrong turn and ended up in the 『Oriental Zone』

>>173131607
i'll take the 80 then, why are 125 characters not worth playing? i get much more activity at that level...

>>173131546
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Wdcv1yTn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwWSvReNcRM

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>>173131592

>haven;t played dark souls 3 since first month of release
>decide to make a new character to play all the DLC
>Haha i'll just blitz through the main game get some levels then hit up the dlc in a few hours
>realise I'm now utterly fucking shit at dark souls 3
>fifteen hours on the new character and still getting shit pushed in by the pontiff
>got up to Friede in Ariandel and getting my shit pushed in even further by her
I want to die.

>>173130931
Probably not qa fault. There is too much weird interactions to simulate this ingame. Unless qa has access to code and competent, there is no way they'd test it all out in time just by hand-testing.
I don't know much about autotesting game engines tho. Farily recent cryeingine going opensource proved to me there is too much magic invloved, just look at this:

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Strange, !do not remove... ask Timur for the meaning of this.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
if (m_nStrangeRatio > 32767)
{
gEnv->pScriptSystem->SetGCFrequency(-1); // lets get nasty.
}

>>173131697
same thing happened to me

>start ng run of the dlc instead of my ng++
>i'll just kill freide and then i'll be able to do the dlc
>kicks my ass multiple times

Honestly this patch told me to keep my dex build at 40 and to use a Raw Broadsword instead of Raw ASS now when making new characters. I love it, they nerfed the Raw ASS only to give the Raw Broadsword the same AR as the raw ass had pre-patch and it's obtained in the same fucking area.

>>173104848
this OP pic is fucking retarded

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>>173131693
>low tier deep gem
>stronger than dark gem

What

So what is it that makes the Mad King Crucifix so good?

>>173131773
This barely has anything to do with the engine though.

Its purely the input values for the weapons and the multiplier they get for upgrading them.

A 1st year Computer Science student can do this without mistake.

>>173131827
Not only that, you don't even need to put points into Faith to use the Broadsword.

>>173131848
It's on fucking 45/45, too.

>>173131835
I think it's point is to show how much faster things are in souls 3 but you're still right, the pic is fucking retarded.

>>173131598

Is there any world where Demon Scar at 20/40/40 is worth is also? I'm not sure if it's worth picking up.

>>173131879
Shrieking pygmy on top of it.

>>173131879
>bastard child of both halberd and great hammer movesets
>huge AR when buffed with dark blade allowing you to delete phantoms in two hits
>fun and unique weapon art that can completely change the pace of an engagement
>looks fly as fuck

>>173131693
>>173131592
did u rike eet?

>>173131827
Isn't it slightly better than the pre-patch raw ASS?

>>173131879
Has a screeching dude attached to it.

>>173131848
That's a Deep Gem with zero scaling, versus a Dark Gem at 45/45.

>>173131879
The fact its buffable, scales with Strenght and Faith, has a WA which gives
>a force faster than the actual miracle
>perseverance, one of the best WA's in the current Meta
>a timebomb of which you likely know the timing better than your opponent

Oh and it has the fucking Greatclub moveset as well

>>173131996
It's the same. Raw Broadsword +10 now has 322 AR, same as Raw ASS had pre-patch.

>>173131535
no velka no buy :^)

>>173131490


It just means you a shit vs players anon

>>173130958
His "velka is the most important lore character" headcanon was ignored.

>want to do a Sorceryfag run
>remember that you have to beat the main game to get the laser
FOR FUCK'S SAKE FROM

>>173130958
Too busy playing a much better game, AKA nioh.

>>173132064
Ah, i thought it would have received the same 12% bonus that the Longsword got to Raw, which would have made the Broadsword 327 AR

So I was at Firelink Shrine and I found Cornyx's set randomly lying around where he used to sit. It wasn't on a corpse or anything, it was just there for some reason. Does anyone know what triggers this happening?

How come bad estus timing was so much more punished in 1 than in 3.

>>173131893
We talking about offhand flagpole constantly triggering main hand weapon on-hit effect, right?

>>173131118
You're not allowed to stream passed "7/7" whatever that means. So they're only allowed to stream up to certain point I guess.

>>173132094
He really did try to make Velka as relevant as possible didn't he? I felt like a lot of people were like that, jesus fucking christ.

>>173132154
the animation before you started chugging was longer
you had to come to a complete halt to chug

Is Vordt's hammer good now?
I heard hyperarmor and frostbite got bufffed massively

At 60 faith what would be the best talisman for offensive miracles? Saints?

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>>173132094
>>173132078

VELKA FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

I TOLD YOU FUCKERS SINCE FUCKING DARK SOULS ONE HE IS NOT IMPORTANT

GET ABSOLUTELY FUCKED

>>173131918
never tried it

>>173131827
they nerfed raw ass?
it had one function

i knew from was going to do some dumb shit like this when other raw longswords weren't even far behind it

>>173132146
You fucking killed him on accident somehow

>>173132202
Yorshka's for buffs and if you are out of range, Canvas for poise-trading and the new DLC one for healing.

Anyone know what spells and weapons I should use for a Zullie the Witch build for DaS3?

I'm aware that her phantom summon from the giant uses Dark Edge, so Dark magic is a must, but does anyone know if she uses a particular weapon when using it?

>>173131879
buffable
mad AR
poise
great WA

>>173132185
It can apply Frostbite in about 3 hits now
One patch turned it from a mediocre weapon into a fantastic one, it's great

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>>173132131
>Nioh
>still no date for Dragon of the North
>meanwhile stuck with shitty Dark Souls 3 patch

>>173132185
much worse AR that great mace, but frost can be good sometimes

>>173131535
He's just not interested in it.

https://twitter.com/EpicNameBro/status/849408031871954948

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>>173131485

>>173132202
Saint's Talisman will give you the highest damage. But for the best balance of damage and wep art hyper armor use the Canvas Talisman.

Saints when doing PvE
Canvas for PvP

>>173132208
Just do Raw Broadsword now. Same AR the Raw ASS had before the patch and you get the weapon at almost the same exact spot.

spoilers
just got to midir dragon, is this fight just going to boring running for hours to get across the battlefield for a chance to deal 2 damage? just reminded me of that stupid ds2 dlc dragon fight. the most boring lazy boss fight that was more a waste of time than an interesting engagement

Anyone up for helping fight spear?
At SL100 i get no summons but the Spears themselves are all DUGS memers and as a caster i just lose 90% of my HP in a single combo

>>173132350
play offline or summon lapp

I'm surprised that From found a way to make infused weapons even more shit. Bravo you really rused us. Good thing all the best weapons for magic builds aren't elemental infused anyways, though it was nice to have a few options.

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>>173131597
Hmm, actually he's a generic "nice guy" white knight, that's why all his weapons are katanas and he can't use most. The high int is because he's an euphoric atheist.

>>173132320
Try hitting its head.

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Which looks better?

>opponent backs off during duel
>use a projected heal
>they get upset
It never gets old.

>>173132452
With that weapon? Left for sure

the fight with gael is absolute k i n o

>>173132242
>>173132318
Alright, thank you.

>>173132452
the one that will hide this hideous face

>>173132386
It was a mistake apparently. They have done it before 2bh. Acid Surge in dark souls 3, nerfing Monastery Scimitar parry in dark souls 2 and then accidentally reverting that change with the next patch.

>>173132320
I think I did 1k dmg with the artorias flip on NG+7. it was fun

>>173132487
Faith builds are causing immense assmadness after TRC, i love it.

>>173132452
Left. Those curly ends on the monastery skirt shoes bother me more than they should.

>>173132604
>Disliking the genie shoes

>>173132487
Love that miracle.

>Team fights
>Friend trades with people with his ultra
>Shoot a projected heal at the enemy player that is trading with my friend
>Friend wins every trade by a mile because of it.

>>173132550
Well hopefully that is the case and they also fix all the other random bullshit like war banner memes, cmw on other hand buffing preacher arm, force knife duping, etc.

>>173132604
Reminds me of the Wizard of Oz, when the witch is flattened by the house and her legs curl up.

>>173132293
I rememeber he said he liked the first DLC, especially the Friede fight. Don't know why he suddenly doesn't give a fuck a bout it.

>>173132630
they remind me more of jester shoes to be honest

>>173132604
>curly ends

you illiterate bumbling buffoon, please educate yourself before you make such a dumb statement

You're on Midir ng+4 solo and have his health down to 25% and the door rings. What do you do?

>>173132202
I think it's going to be a longsword at this rate

The Demon Prince is giving me Vietnam flashbacks to Flamefucker except now there are two of him

>>173132687
*rolled ends(?)

English is not my first language, so I thought curly was another word for rolled, sorry.

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>>173132550
I hope they keep fucking up. The more times they have to do a rush job patch, the more likely it is they'll accidentally leak Debug again. I cannot think of a better way for them to end Dark Souls III than that.

Did anyone save the image of that one anon's build? Spooky skeleton hollow with the Crucifix, darksign on display.

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Ok, finished M'lady. Now I gotta check what I gotta change with Allahu Akbar. Change all things that don't fit the stereotype.

>>173131535
>>173132293
>>173132654
What happened to ENB?

I haven't kept up with his stuff for ages and I unsubbed from him on youtube, his Souls and Bloodborne content used to be pretty decent.

Did he become suicidal? Why doesn't he care about Souls any more?

>>173132719
Answer the door. At the end of the day real life shit takes priority over video game needs plus I enjoy the fight so I wouldn't mind fighting him from the start again.

>>173132719
Midir>door ringing

>>173132812
I think he was getting cucked is probably won't get custody.

>>173132789
attune immolation

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>purple twink invader in undead burg
>find a newbie
>give him a Calamity Ring
>he equips it
>one shot him with a backstab

>>173132789
Tried Seething Chaos?
Its basically a time bomb, but slower than profaned flame

>>173132789
Get Mad King's Crucifix.
Spam the WA until you get allahu akbar

>>173132812
The miscarriage was actually an abortion

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>>173132964
>It's animation won't happen if you actually hit someone with it and you have to rely on people being near it when it takes forever to go off on the ground.

>>173132991
>>173132840
Oh.

Damn, that sucks.

It's a shame it happened to him, he seemed like a nice guy and his content was pretty good.

It should have happened to Vaati instead

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>>173132874
Best I can do is profaned flame and walk to it.
>>173132964
Sadly I don't have the DLC
>>173132972
If anyone's willing to gift one I would.

>>173132840
as far as i'm concern she probably left him besause his job was being an «e-celeb» and couldnt/wouldnt find a real one, moreover his capacity for not finishing anything probably has some irl ramification.

>>173133069
You're on PC right? I'll give you a Crucufix

>>173132781
I want someone to do a full trilogy playthrough as a skeleton wheel.

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Give me hot pyromancy tips, /dsg/.
Is Black Serpent into Black Flame the only thing that works reliably? How much do I want to level up?

How do i have fun with this game?

Arena is just boring meta builds.
Co-op hosts are retards either die quickly or over summon.
Invasions no fun allowed.
Completed PVE numerous times on a variety of builds.
I think i'm done with this game.