/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

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I fap to all of frogdevs progress posts

I remember an anon from agdg was working on a Yooka Laylee kind of game, what happened with that project? He's not behind the game that was just released, is it?

>>173060139
That's BOKUBEDEV

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>keep getting NullReferenceException
>I'm at my wits end, about to ditch the whole script I was writing for hours because I'm a non coder faggot
>suddenly realize it needs 3 objects and I've assigned only two
>put in the third
>works

>>173059810
>no webm section

>>173061670
There is, it's been there for months:
tools.aggydaggy.com

>>173061670
How many times do you need to know how to make webms? Holy shit

Post dev music. No anime or electronic edition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18EAqHx2lMk

>>173060645
NullReference always refers to an unassigned object reference. Don't seppuku just yet anon

>>173062036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvTRZJ-4EyI

>>173062041
Assigned to null =/= unassigned

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>>173062036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6yBTYxLko

Daily reminder to always encapsulate primitive types in microclasses

>>173062809
That guy is active on Twitter, he just did some of the Deus Ex Mankind Divided soundtrack

And they did a set at the VGAs

>>173063009
thanks

>>173062907
I don't know what any of that means.

>>173060139
PlokDev?

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>>173062036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Figo-QTW0

>No anime or electronic edition
O-oh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAEKK8xCpBY

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>>173062036

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNU-XAZjhzA

>>173062036
>No...electronic edition.
Fuck you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Yb4x7LHhY

>>173063394
Don't use float, int, etc. by themselves in your code. For the sake of safety, write small classes that contain the primitive type you want to use as their only fields, and use instances of those classes instead.

>>173062907
>there are people right there that don't use structs and enums

>>173063542
how do you even make a carpet that huge?

>>173063704
POD structs aren't safe. Use classes with accessor methods instead. Same goes for enums, write classes with const fields that are returned by accessor methods. It's much more elegant that way.

why can't we all get along and just like make game?

i made a game in python
i made a hangman

>>173063886
>elegant
>literally waste 10 time the memory space
>for no real benefit
I bet you run for each on var lists too.

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>>173064356
How appropriate.

>>173064435
>replying seriously

>>173064453
woah slow down there skipper, i don't have any kind of fancy pancy graphical interface

>>173064469
it's the kind of thing that people actually do
it's beyond parody

>>173063669
I don't really see what benefit this would provide. Can you show an example?

>>173063719

slaves

I was planning on putting the agdg logo in my game, but then I remembered you guys are all narcisistic, arrogant motherfuckers.
Seriously fuck this place.

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hey ideaguys what software do you use to ideaguy? raw text, google docs, one of those fancy screenplay apps? or a node graph tool?

>>173064435
RAM usage isn't a concern on modern machines.

>for no real benefit
Maintainable code, code reuse, and safety are all worthy benefits.

>foreach
Of course, it's better to let the language handle iteration for you. Or do you really think you're smarter than the numerous engineers who designed modern languages?

>>173063719
women used to sit at home all day doing that shit

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If you see this image while scrolling
You have been visited by the squatting space slav
Strong legs and invulnerability will come to you, but only if you post THANK YOU MR SPACE SLAV in this thread

>>173064789
PowerPoint

>>173064789
drugs

>>173064758
this place is the congregation of all losers, outcasts, weirdos, failures, and nodevs

What do you expect? This is like going into mcdonalds and trying to find athletic people

Anon...

>>173064912
THANK YOU MR SPACE SLAV

>>173064758
What's your point

>>173064921
Why not make the whole game in PowerPoint?

>>173064970
Athletic people do go to McDonalds, they just use the drive-through.

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----[ Recap ]----
Game: HACK the F.B.I.
Dev: Vestigial
Tools: Unity
Web: @vestigialdev
Progress:
+ NPC action system getting really easy to work with
+ NPCs can go afk

>>173064789
Google Docs, sometimes Google Sheets as well if I need to do mathy stuff with it.
I have one doc that just has a bunch of smaller ideas. Then for any ideas I want to expand I make a new doc and expand it in that.
I like Google docs because I can write them on my phone while I'm away from home, in case I ever get ideas while away.

>>173064912
>using memes to market your game

Impressive

>>173064912
THANK YOU MR SPACE SLAV

>>173064912
THANK YOU MR SPACE SLAV

>>173064885
>RAM usage isn't a concern on modern machines.
It's not just size, bloated data format are slower to access, if you do that shit in your main loop you are slowing down everything for no benefits.

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>>173065396
Squatting is the endgame mechanic now
Almost god mode

>>173065658
that is pretty funny

What is that creature thing tho?

>>173064912
thank you mr space slav

Even I go with my loli jam idea 1 (red riding hood stealth)
Odd I go with my loli jam idea 2 (loli raising sim)

>>173065964
she gonna get the knott

>>173065964
>yomiwari
>princess trainer
pass on both

>>173065787
Sort of a mollusc that was locked away for very long time until it grew too massive by normal standards. Needs more animation and a few more legs though, because as it is now it looks unimpressive.
The original idea was a biomechanical heart.

>>173066069
I haven't played either of those

>>173064758
Now you're getting the picture. Putting an agdg logo in your game like hopoo did at this point is like bending over and begging to be accepted. Don't do it. You don't want to be accepted here or to pay homage here or to try and stake claims in this """community""" unless you're mentally feeble and socially desperate for attention and have nothing else to do with your life like gogem.

>>173065571
I already stated the benefits, all of which are critical to writing good software. And just as RAM usage is no longer a concern, neither is CPU usage. The slowness you mention is still so minute that the user won't notice a difference.

What they will notice, though, is when your game crashes because you didn't practice safety precautions.

>>173066153
I like the original idea better t b h f a m

>>173066229
you should because they're what you're remaking

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----[ Recap ]----
Game: Autumn’s Gesture
Dev: quasiberry
Tools: UE4/Maya/Zbrush
Web: quasiberry.tumblr.com

Progress:
+finished fire spells
+made a modular cave system

>>173066359
mine will be 3D though

>>173066392
>starting a halloween game now to give yourself plenty of time
smart

>>173064758
Can you explain what the point of this post was?

>>173066303
I meant it more like it still is a biomechanical heart, but it's not as apparent in the second stage. It's literally so ripped it breaks out of its steel frame.

>>173066468
you won't have a game then

Why does agdg try so hard to brand itself anyway? Do you really need a fucking logo? You're not even devs most of you you're just LARPing.

>>173066505
VIRTUE
SIGNALING

>>173066291
>benefits
>"it's elegant"

>>173066631
being a massive fucking holier than thou cunt is now a virtue?

>>173066631
>admitting that kicking dirt on agdg and telling it to wither and die is virtuous
Cucked yourself nicely there.

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When was last time you opened your project? be honest.

>>173066617
>LARPing
>on the internet
???

>>173066936
get back to work

>>173066936
The moment you sit your fat asses down without a game and decide to go to game dev places and pretend you're making a game you are LARPing. Yeah it's from your mom's office and it's on the internet but that doesn't mean it's not live action.

>>173066617
>>173067072
Why can't you just use the word "pretending" like a non-autist?

>>173066737
See >>173064885
>Maintainable code, code reuse, and safety are all worthy benefits.

>>173067172
>he says while sperging out about the definition of LARPing
Nigga you are triggered badly. Maybe make a game and you won't be so triggered when someone talks shit on nodevs.

>>173067236
I'll humour you. Why do you think boxing primitive types into classes improves anything?

>>173064885
You should use structs for data that isn't prone to change a lot.

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need ideas for fun physics based enemy types.

i plan on going totally overboard with enemy variety, so far i've got guys with spider legs, drones, zombies, rushdown exploding guys, heavy guys with shields and body armor, humanoids that re-asemble iron giant style if they get cut up, etc.

just things that are threats but use physics in a unique way.

>>173067416
Why shouldn't you use structs for data that changes a lot as well?

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>>173065396
>marketing the game
>agdg

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>>173066895
it's open right now but it looks so shit I'm just waiting till it goes away

it's not that I can't make nicer environment but I just don't know what

I'm fucking burned out after finally setting up the scene

>>173067458
can you make new skeletons at runtime? an enemy that collects pieces of dead enemies would be cool
an enemy that throws other enemies

>>173067458
I would help you with fun physics based enemy guys but you still haven't told me how to actually make your guys move like that

>>173067735

lol, that's great. yea i probably could. like 5 skeletons that merge into 1 gradually as you try to kill them. could be an interesting mini boss. i can scale and make new ones at run times yes.

>>173067764
they have simulated pneumatic cylinder-like muscles mang, he showed it like 10 times by now

>>173068020
this doesn't explain how to do it or how to program it etc

>>173068020

pretty much this. i will make a tutorial once i finish the game.

>>173068130
>please spoonfeed me exactly what you did to make your game

Does anyone know where I can find the sexy witch dev?

>>173067416
Wrong, a class with accessor methods is always better. "Struct" shouldn't even be a keyword, and using them is a sign of poor programming skills.

>>173067371
An unsigned integer class can include sanity checks to avoid overflows/underflows; a float class can include comparison logic that accounts for floating-point accuracy; char and int8_t classes can exist simultaneously to explicitly refer to characters and 8-bit integers, respectively, and safety is preserved by preventing one from being confused with the other. And so on.

>>173068130
>hey. you know the tech that you developed that is singlehandedly marketing your game? the tech that is clearly nontrivial to discover as evidenced by posts like this? can you give me that tech for free please?

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>>173066468
>he makes 3D games

>>173068503
Nobody here does that

>>173068503
yes I do
how about you? oh you don't make games at all? pretty sad :(

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>>173067458

>>173065658

That fucking thing is spooking me a little.

Large ambiguous bodied creatures with tiny spider like legs creep me the fuck out.

>>173068623
t. butthurt nodev

>>173067458
do you have a snake yet?

>>173068623
>typical 3D nodev argument
thanks for proving my point

>>173068735
whoops, meant to quote >>173068503

>>173051074
Its morphing into a harvest moon clone.

>>173068210
>>173068467
nothing wrong with learning about how a game mechanic works

>>173068938
You were just told how it works, step by step instructions about how to replicate it are something else.

>>173068815
No you didnt. Thanks for supporting anti-3D nodev.
0.02 will be deposited into your game account.

>>173066291
>And just as RAM usage is no longer a concern, neither is CPU usage

CPU usage is a huge concern, even in indie games. But typically it's about optimizing resource intense systems, like physics, rather than death by a thousand cuts so I doubt wrapping primitives would cause problems.

>>173068765

was thinking of making a snek. i was playing Snake Pass yesterday and something like that would be pretty fun. i have a vague idea of how they did that effect, it really is an incredible biomechanical simulation. some kind of constricting enemy or something.

>>173068938
the explanation you were given is more than enough to find more information online
it's called muscle based locomotion
now run to learn it

>>173069027
>>173068938
>>173067458

Unity 3D Ragdoll Easy Tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCwNaE_eVsM

here you go guys now post progress

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>>173068656

>sticky soft body mesh cube that slowly melts you

>>173069348
that's absolutely not what that system does is and he was already given enough clues

https://steamspy.com/app/425070

Does this mean I can put a minesweeper clone on steam?

Its almost like a game now!

>>173067458
An enemy that rolls up into a ball. When it spins (moves) have it fire bullets.

>>173067516
I guess if you have a small set of values that need to change, it's okay because the memory it takes up will be small.
However, having mutable structs is a bad idea. As a means of making struct fields immutable, we make them readonly. However, if we make them readonly, then every time we want to change a single field we have to reconstruct the entire thing.

I recommend you read
http://stackoverflow.com/a/14147401
http://stackoverflow.com/a/3753640
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/0taef578.aspx
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms229017.aspx

>>173068419
See http://stackoverflow.com/a/14152047
Avoiding structs because you don't know enough about them to put them to use is a sign of poor programming skills.

>>173069848
>However, having mutable structs is a bad idea.
Why? Mutation isn't bad in general, but mutation of shared state is bad. If the state isn't shared, no problem.

>>173069942
nothing wrong with shared mutation state

>>173069942
http://stackoverflow.com/a/441357

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>>173069676
lel

>>173070123
Except that it destroys readability/maintainability of your program and prevents or limits the gains of threading.

>>173070125
So?

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I got the perfect title for my Loli Jam steath game
Little Red Hiding Hood

>>173070256
>all false

you haven't learned to use OOP properly that is your problem

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>>173070316
>obscuring problems fixes them

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>>173070296
>he makes pedo games

>>173070296
is the pic your game

>>173070458
>he shitposts 24/7

What's the best library tool to make a minesweeper clone?

>>173070458
umm no? I make loli games

>>173070479
no but it's one of my sources of inspiration

>>173070506
>implying 95% of loli jam related posts aren't shitposts
i counted btw

>>173070563
good luck remaking yomiwari for sexoffenderjam

>>173062036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xv_Hg8o1fw
Coldplay has become my new go-to for dev music.

>>173070434
>not realizing the best solutions to a lot of programming problems is OOP
>Being this much in denial

>>173070672
thanks!

>>173070751
How does OOP solve the problem of shared mutable state?

>>173070563
loli games == pedo games;

>>173070807
shared mutable states are not a problem if you know how to program in OOP

>>173070924
So it doesn't, thanks.

>>173070873
hmm, I don't think that's right

>check the previous thread for what i missed
>hours of fanfic about me
anything to nodev i guess

>>173062907
>>173063669
isn't this also called wrappers? or is that a java exclusive term

>>173064625
>>173071147
He's just shitposting. Ignore it.

>>173071062
i still think this looks okayish

reminds me of thief or daggerfall or something except on the n64

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>>173071062
w-what is this

>>173070976
It seems to me that simplifying programming by removing mutable state is like "simplifying" a car by removing the dashboard: the finished product may be simpler, but good luck making it interact with end-users.I f you play a video game, there are tons of state variables, beginning with the positions of all the characters, who tend to move around constantly.

>>173071214
what game

>>173071382
Nobody said to remove all mutable state.

>>173071062
>>173071338
>>173071361
it's a like a shitpost conga
same fucking quotes
same fucking pictures

what sad existence is still doing this?

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>>173071214
Agdg How is my Testo of Sound and or Progresso? I know the sounds need more work like on the monster that appears at the top but how do you like it so far? There is a lot of toy/machinery on this level and I tried to have nature sounds as well but coming from the open window.

I'm also considering making toy robot enemies for the level but I'm not sure since its packed already with traps and the like.

Iv been filling the bedroom background with 3D models of other agdg devs games if you'd like your model in there as an easter egg let me know and send me a model.

https://twitter.com/TheeWhiteReaper/status/849356836310585346

>>173071618
my testiclo hurts when i read your posto

A game without graphics (no text either).

>>173071618
how often do you visit /pol/?

>>173071675
>testiclo hurts when i read
Just because i'm transitioning doesn't mean you have to ether.

>>173071618
>ask for feedback
>proceed to ignore it
>go back to discord pals
yeah nah
pass

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>>173071062

>>173071684
A Blind Legend
There was also a HL2 mod where you play as a blind monk

>>173071618
I don't hear anything but music and seemingly random clicking.

what is the best way to make money off of your game?

>>173060139

There's been several people taking a shot at a 3D platformer here. Blockhead's Blunder, Plok 3D, some Crash clone an anon put together in a week. None of them have been released.

>>173071956
Make a good one and you can even make money from free itchio games.

>>173071618
music is an extremely awkward fit but i can't put my finger on why
voice clips are still awful, have a mobile game feel and you should trash them
movement noise is good

>>173072008
how much can you make on itchio say on average?

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>>173071062
DELET THIS

>>173071062
I don't even understand this picture?

Why does this bother /agdg/ so much just ignore it

>>173071836
>A Blind Legend
That robot narrator voice ruins it.

>>173072090
I get like $18 per 1000 downloads

No idea what the average is but at that level you'd need some serious traffic to make a living from it

>>173072401
>Why does this bother /agdg/ so much
nobody is bothered by those pics
they are ancient fucking history now and it's literally one mental patient reposting them and then responding to them over and over again with same reaction images and quotes

>>173072725
but what's the story behind them.

>>173072698
well looks like i'm screwed and will have to give 30% of my profits to Steam then 5% royalty to UE4 which will leave me with nothing after taxes.

What is the point of even making a game anymore when taxes are theft

>>173072883
>using steam and not based 5% patreon
shiggy

>>173072883
fun

>>173072883
If you put a free game on Steam you might make literally nothing

>>173072990
patreon publishes games now?

>>173072990
Good luck having any kind of reach outside Steam.

>>173073075
You could literally use it as a direct sales platform if you make a tier = the cost of your game and allow immediate payment.

>>173073087
I agree with this guy the only logical option is to use steam and one of the main game engines like Unity or game maker or UE4 or whatever else main ones there are but if you use any of them they all take a percentage so you are still left with nothing

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>>173073087
nice try Gaben

>>173072883
>>173073213
Taxes are applied after Steam and Epic take their cuts, and after any other expenses related to the game.

I really want to post stuff about my game, but seeing how unbelievable it is that I came back after being gone for nearly a year and someone is still shit posting about something that was old even way back then makes me fear upsetting an autist who browses this general.
Like seriously, how can someone have that much dedication to something so meaningless?

>tfw used to be happier when I didn't work

I was still sad as ever and had a really bad sleep schedule, but at least I had the will to live and sometimes dev. Now I make a pretty good living, but debugging someone else's shit at work for 8 hours crushes your soul.

>>173073213
The engine you use doesn't matter but purposefully avoiding Steam is suicide, it doesn't fucking matter if you lose 30% from every sale since you wouldn't have these sales without Steam to begin with.

The only correct way is to put your game in every digital store possible.

>>173073447
steam takes a cut engine takes a cut what are you left with?

>>173073610
More than zero dollars which is what you will have if you don't use Steam.

>>173073447
>The only correct way is to put your game in every digital store possible.
this implies digital stores inherently control market share when in reality only steam has any semblance of control over it's market share and it's all based on toxic practices like the digital trading market and cultism.

>>173073678
but his game will be the next Minecraft, don't you get it, anon?

Reminder that it doesn't matter that Steam takes a cut since you can price your game higher to offset it and people will still buy it since it's on Steam (which means convenience, achievements, trading cards, etc.).

>>173073870
if you want to make any money off of steam you have to charge your game at ridiculous high prices that no one is going to pay so you are still left with $0 either way using Steam

Steam was a mistake

>>173073610
In the US:
your takehome = (1 - Steam's cut - Engine's cut) * (1 - Tax rate) * Revenue

Worked example, with $100k revenue, 30% taxes, Steam and UE4:

Your takehome = (1 - .30 - .5) * (1- .30) * 100k = 45.5k.

Note that even if taxes are 65%, you still make some money because of the order the multiplications are applied. It's NOT just tax + steam cut + engine cut.

>>173073359
underrated post

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>>173073870
sure, anon, you price your game with 60% markup to "offset" Steam and Engine cuts and make jack fucking shit, because people won't buy a 8 dollar game for 20 dollars until it goes on sale and costs 3

>>173073805
Humble takes care of the delusional hipster "freedom fighter" millennial audience.

>>173074029
>>173074173
le exaggeration face

>>173074154
>>173073610
whoops wrote .5 instead of .05 but the answer is correct.

>>173074207
>considering any market that made its name on selling steam keys
like eating vomit

>>173074207
Isn't that Itchio?

Putting your game on Steam:
$100k - 30% Gaben's breakfast cut = $70k
$70k total

Putting your game on Steam + other stores:
$90k from Steam - 30% = $63k
$25k from other stores - 10-25%: $20k
$83k total

Putting your game in itch, personal website and other such stores that don't take a cut:
$0k

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Damage numbers, enemy health bars, neither, or both?

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>>173072040
>>173071920
Adding juice to the traps when they make that switch/click sound hopefully that helps clarity that the sound is coming from these traps.

>>173074436
itch is purely for devs and not really a store, more like a free file storage service.

>>173074737
the more I see of your game the more I look forward to playing it

>>173074720
Neither. Simulate realistic tissue damage and hire VAs to record a thousand hours of agonized pain screams for the mortally wounded NPCs bleeding out on the floor.

>>173074737
holy shit you can actually see the character in your game this time!

>>173074717
Anon... Taxes are enforced whether you like it or not

how long does steamworks tax verification take

>>173073274
>sales are final

when will they fix this?
Refunds are a thing for 4 years now
4 fucking years

>>173074737
>>173074885
gotta agree, first time I see a webm of this game where I can actually easily tell where the player is and what's happening

>>173074720
Depends on the game and damage model.

If it's something simple like "this monster takes 3 hits to die" then indicators aren't really necessary, remembering the HPs of each creator becomes part of the game.
If it's an RPG with focus on damage types and resistances with big damage variations then numbers and bars are the way.
If it's somewhere in between then just a bar should suffice, it really depends on how much information you want to convey to the player, I dislike numbers everywhere so I would go for a more immersive option like a bar, more subtle indicators or nothing at all.

>>173075385
he finally listened to all the fix your camera view posts in /agdg/

now he has an actual good playable game for his genre

10/10 would play

>>173075217
And can be refused for any reason or no reason at all.

>>173074029
Aim to make a $5 or $10 game.

>>173075630
It's automatic, they only refuse if you abuse the system with a bunch of refunds every day.

>>173075690
a realaitic indie game with all those profit cuts $10 between $20 if you want any money

>>173075630
works for me :3

>>173074687
I don't know why you guys hate steam so much.
If this was 20 years ago you would have to get an actual publisher, and from what I've seen in this thread not a single fucking one of you deserves one (yet?).
Stop bitching and make a good & memorable game. Even if you sell your shit for $1 at least you're getting SOMETHING. Worst comes to worst you actually have to go and get a job at a game dev company - your game can be your job application

the smartest idea is to release 10 very small and polished games so you have more chances of making money

>>173076148
And if this were 100 years ago we wouldn't even have video games, so really when you think about it we should all be riding Gabe's nuts.

>>173076148
Ancap retards that don't understand that services generally cost money for a reason.

>>173076327
Sorry, your post has been denied because our system identified it as nonsensical /pol/ rhetoric. Please reformat your post and try again!

>>173076327
>ancap
It's the commies that want free shit.

What's your day job, /agdg/?

How do you support your failing gamedev business?

>>173076653
gigolo

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Wow guys just make game is easy. What's taking you so long?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/erw87vy5kke3cga/Five%20by%20Five.jar?dl=0
https://pastebin.com/FGUqNiwq

>>173076148
Monolith, Clarentdev (ripip), bokube, Frost, Umbrella Warriors, Apotheosis, maybe Whimp have sufficient quality already to get published, going off of Dreaming Sarah, who got a publisher when they were still blocking out levels. Unfortuately DS left, so I'm not sure how much their publisher actually DID for them.

A publisher would probably want to throw their name onto World of Horror as well.

>>173076148
This post is basically everything wrong with modern agdg. Back in the days it was about making actually good games for fun for everyone. Now it's all about money this, money that, debasing yourself and your potential game for petty reasons like money or recognition, and pretentious wankery.

>>173076653
I feed the family pet, sometimes.

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would you play a game with this aesthetic

>>173073435

late night, come home
work sucks, i know

>>173076514
free shit like roads

>>173077109
why do you ask?
a big studio would have a problem capturing that

I'm getting sent a publishing contract tomorrow, am I still allowed in AGDG if I sign it?

>>173077237
Yes but only if you tell me your secrets.

>>173077237
Congrats anon!

>>173077109
I would play Zeno Clash, yes.

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Got rough menus for item and party management completed for my TRPG. Persistent damage between battles add depth or would it just be annoying?

>>173077221
you're right, it would need an auteur like myself

>>173076768
>back in the days, agdg was about making games for fun and not for money
L O L
O
L

Does anyone here knows how rotation works in Unity? I am using the Rotate function, and giving it an X value(souce is mouse), a Z value(souce is mouse too), and 0,0f to y. But it keeps moving in all 3 axis.

>>173077574
It's OK that you're too young to have known such a time. It's not OK to pretend otherwise.

>>173076768

> i dont need to eat to survive nor do i want any of the good things in life

good for you, Anon. You're a true inspiration.

>>173077640
This is all it does in the update.
>h = horizontalSpeed * Input.GetAxis("Mouse X");
>v = verticalSpeed * Input.GetAxis("Mouse Y");
>transform.Rotate(h, 0.0f, -v);

>>173077640
Your orientation is probably not level.

>>173077801
(You)

>>173076653
I write business software for a living. Game Dev is basically just a hobby, I'd need to get very lucky to be able to beat what I make writing boring software.

>>173077640
>>173077842
You need to rotate from identity every time.

>>173077984
it's understandable to not get it if you're from a loaded family or already have a cushy job and not a care in the world, just don't expect people to not think you're one humongous cunt when you say shit like that

>>173077853
I'm not sure I follow. By orientation you mean rotation? And on level with what?

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tfw making love2d game
tfw want to make it multiplayer
tfw luasocket is too hard for my dumb brain to understand
tfw no list of love builtin libraries.
tfw ssl libs probably not included
tfw dont want to add third party dll libs because multiplatform
tfw will never have a secure connection to a serber.

>>173078335
Quaternion identity? I will check on that.

>>173078389
love2d is the most overrated piece of shit ever

It's great how two of the biggest namefags and shitposters take their names from common game development terminology so actual progress and game discussion gets tainted with their memory

>>173076768
Why are you directing it at this post and not the ones who are crying about cuts and taxes? I'm not him, but I'm happy that it's relatively easy to put a good game on Steam and make some money off of it. I'm not concerned with maximizing my profits but it's a lot better than making nothing. I imagine he feels the same way.

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>>173078512
IT'S THE ONLY THING I AM CAPABLE OF DOING.
God has forsaken me to only ever write games in languages that you should never write games in.
like lua, python and php.

>>173076148
20 years ago the internet wasn't so widespread. We don't need publishers or steam nowadays since it's piss easy to create a website and distribute your game.

(UE4)
hey, how would i turn a 2d drawn animation into a particle effect in a 3d space? kind of like the sprites in wolfenstein and doom (even though those games aren't 3D)

A few friends of mine wanna make a vn. Any tips?

>>173078686
use godot, their language is basically python

>tfw learned to program instead of art
>tfw I picked the wrong skill to learn to make games

WHYYYYY

who needs an animator

>>173079220
1. throw everyone off the project who doesnt have a history of finishing shit
2. agree to leadership immediately
3. leader material is the one with most experience not the one with most ideas

>>173079434
Sorry I am not interested in people who lie about wanting to collab

>>173079567
>>173079220
good luck progressing past 1 btw
and fuck off to a vndev thread

>>173079612

yeah shit happens too often i feel you

though i just want to work on something

>>173079567
what was the last time you collabed on something?

>>173079567
I agree with this guy

you should only ever collab with each other when both of you have finished games you can show each other that are recent

>>173079697
Restricted-RPS
currently waiting for months on bug fixes, these rules wont prevent bullshit like this still happening.

>>173079095
Just look at any fire/smoke particle in the examples, they use sprite animations.

>>173079859
oh i thought that was all you

>tfw you will never collab with all the yesdevs on /agdg/ like bokudev knightdev gogem robot3d dev resident evil dev and all the other cool ones

why livee

>>173079916
given i do the gamedesign, graphics, audio, clientside programming thats an understandable mistake.

>>173079407
so learn to draw instead of complaining

>>173080187
you forgot marketing ;v)

>>173079407
wrong. You can make an actual game. Albeit ugly, but a game. Artists can't make game without learning some programming.

>>173064885
>it's better to let the language handle iteration for you
I'll admit it, I was triggered

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Very very early version of the redesigning of the cavern. Ignore the slowdown/speeding up in the vid, happens whenever I have max, photoshop, and unity all open.

>>173080219
>>173080308
Anons.. no one wants to play a game with horrible graphics if I program it all

Need artist bait

>>173080308
yeah, but learning art is harder than learning programming

cant argue that

>>173080572
there are successful games with programmer art. eg. Thomas Was Alone

>>173080606
Art is pretty hard but idk if its harder than programming. Programming is pretty damn hard, even for a semi-complex platformer.

>>173080275
didnt i just

>>173080936
TWA isn't programmer art, it's proper art styled as programmer art.

Also just the mention of this game is enough to make me nauseous because I played it on the bus and I got sick.

>>173080606
I don't think they compare at all, which is harder depends entirely on the person in question since people have different natural/inherent aptitudes

ultimately it boils down to practice and dedication though

>>173080936
Thomas Was Alone substitutes visual art with ostensibly pleasing accented voice acting. Also its programmer art is juiced to hell and back, which still takes a kind of artistic talent.

Idea guy here

A Visual novel based game of Hitler's experiences and perspective throughout the war

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First time progress post.

>>173081275
teach me your 2d art ways

>>173081148
>TWA isn't programmer art, it's proper art styled as programmer art.
this, the creator of TWA has said outright that he doesn't consider himself a programmer because he doesn't understand it beyond a basic level

also lol everything in TWA is made of Unity's cube primitives

>>173081275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFQVZ2h0V8

>>173079434
>>173079693
Just post some of your art. If it's any good there are literally dozens of programmers here with shitty programmer art who would cut off their left nut to work with you.

>>173081275
quit monkeying around ha ha

seriously though that looks bretty gud. I assume crypt of the necrodancer is a source of inspiration?

>>173081275
I thought this was >>173064912 from the thumbnail

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Drawing semi-lewd statues instead of actual game assets. Somebody kill me.

>>173081401
i'm definitely down to collab if that's what you're worried about

>>173081521
someone's gotta do it.

>>173081521
anon you can't have a titty dwarf game without some titty statues

also she seems a bit tall to be a dwarf (you did say she was a dwarf in another post, right?)

>>173081505
Yeah, I love the concept of that game.

>>173081569
No, I'm worried that your art is actually shit.

>>173081569
>everytiem

this kills the collab posts

>>173081767
what kind of art are you after

>>173081681
She is as sturdy as I could draw without making her unnecessary ugly. Let's just say that she is small enough.

>>173081521
>She doesn't have a ding dong

Anon..

>>173081569
>i'm dtc
slut

A game where you play as a loli that slowly grows into THICCness.

>>173082113
remember, when you collab with someone you collab with everyone they've ever collabed with

>>173082191
>a game where a pure being loses its innocence and beauty
but why

>>173081847
2D art, literally any style as long as it's competent. But we both know you'll either never post your art, or you'll post it and it will be Chris-Chan levels of shit, to which I'll respond "Oh, I'm not really interested. Good luck with your art though."

>>173082297
Great isn't it?

>programmers trying to find an artist to collab with
>when artists can just make games with blueprints and don't need programmers anymore

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>>173082303
here is my art

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Reposting for the day crew. A few updates on the second weekend jam: It starts on Thursday and lasts for 72 hours. The theme will be announced 24 hours in advance so you can get your noggin joggin. No cheating!

Since last time I posted, we're up to 20 jammers joined!

https://itch.io/jam/agdggj02

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>>173082571
Here's a redline

>>173082413
Blueprint is programming buddy.

got the basis for my server running. now to see if I can get the client to connect

What's the easiest way to have an acceptable site for my game while knowing nothing about web dev?

I gotta like buy hosting and shit right?

>>173082571
>>173082837
Oh, I'm not really interested. Good luck with your art though

>>173082837
Those eyes are pretty good I like them

>>173082837
>mixels

>>173083158
if you want a halfway decent brand website you could just get some easy hosting solution for 5 bucks a month. otherwise just get a neocities page and cname your domain to it

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>>173079434

>>173082837
those blue eyes should be in every game

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Working on patterns and balancing the bosses.
This looks more chaotic than it really is.

finished doing all the "easy" stuff the other day.
i should get into AI next but i just cant muster the energy to do get into it.

>>173084268
With the things that try to crush you, you should make the first one move slower, because otherwise you won't know its coming and it will feel like bullshit if it hits you.

>>173084464
nah

>>173084268
>pattern i can actually comprehend
what the fuck shmoopdev

My goal in life is to have Jim Sterling verbally molest my video game into sweaty, panting submission.

>>173084532
Well if not make it slower at least have the first one be one that you're unlikely to be underneath, like the one right next to the boss. No one will react quick enough to dodge it unless they already know what's coming.
Always balance your game for other players, not for yourself

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>>173084464
I duknow, it's already pretty slow as it is. He also does the crushing act earlier before everything is so close together, so It's not like players haven't seen it yet.

>>173084545
Boi you ain't seen nothin yet. I'm trying to restrain myself for the first 2 mini bosses, but for the end level boss and the secret boss it's all out the window.

>>173084665
Your goal is to make a bad game?

>>173084846
Jim Sterling not liking a game is in no way correlated to its quality.

>>173084665
please don't use "jim sterling" and "molest" in the same sentence

>>173079331
no I want control over my shit game.
I'm swimming in cancer and loving every minute of it.
I decided to write my server in PHP instead and it's working flawlessly.

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Hey /agdg/, I want to make graphically simple (text with some images) crpgs and distribute them for a song on android or mobile devices. I kinda want to expand my programming chops and I wanted to know if it would be better to code them myself as an app or just use a pre-existing engine. Pic unrelated.

>>173084998
Does it stir your loins in a way you aren't accustomed to?

>>173085170
no but it made me a little nauseous

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Finished with fire stuff. You can shoot fireballs from different directions with the up and down stab. The fireballs will chase any enemy you have targeted regardless of your stab direction. I am working on a modular cave environment now, it works pretty well so far. There are a few seams but they are not too noticeable.

>>173065658
How close to being finished are you? I need a castlevania in my life

>>173080527
Nice silky smooth 15 fps there buddy.

>>173085407
Bretty cool

>tfw normies think furries in fursuits are cute

Can someone explain to me how people shit out huge 3d open world games by themselves? They're always shit, but they're fucking massive.

>>173086045
They procedurally generate a big empty world and then add some handmade stuff.

>>173084268
Looks nice, where are you from?

>>173085523
I'm still far away, such is a fate of one man army devving.
Also, it's not quite a castlevania game. It's more movement than combat oriented, and gameplay is much faster overall.

>>173086303
take help and collab to finish faster

>>173086045
A procgen algorithm will shit out any size world you want it to

>tfw too much of a brainlet to figiure out the programming logic if certain aspects of your game like when objects collide and have to watch tutorials and look up how to do it like how to randomly generate map textures in your game

>>173086761
>too much of a brainlet to realize all programming is is looking shit up constantly.

>>173086832
I thought all you had to do was learn the basics then you would understand how to do every new problem you encounter like the ones I listed

>>173085731
"Ignore the slowdown/speeding up in the vid, happens whenever I have max, photoshop, and unity all open."

Nice reading comprehension, buddy.

>>173086984
That's correct, you've probably just underestimated what "the basics" are.