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>>172947953
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Anyone got a deck code for a good Dragon deck?
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Why is she so smug?
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What's the point of Ta-G exactly?
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Bloody Mary is still my wife!
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How the fuck do I into Midrange Shadow?
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How 2 counter Haven pls
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This is the golden age of Shadowverse. This game will never be this active again after the expansion.
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Need free win 80934
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>>172965124
>what's the point of alternate art cards?
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What is so funny about dragon now?
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Post elf!
Wolfbolt is top tier!
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>>172965185
Fuck off time traveling nigger
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>>172965174
Play dshift, get destroy amulet spells.
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>Reading the lore for the Shadowcraft cards

Some are pretty sad.
>Skull Beast literally just wanted a hug and was doomed to become a shell of it's former self as a zombie
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>>172965124
quick blader for waifufags (me)
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We made it!
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>>172965206
Thanks!
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>>172965132
If it means anything, Forte is also a Doraf in Granblue Fantasy, hence the short jokes.

>>172965294
>Immortal Thane is just some old asshole
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I want to fill up Luna's womb with my seed and make her pass out from pleasure!
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>>172965294
read this
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Reminder to rope all dshitters.
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>dragon uses last evolve to hit my face with genesis dragon
>puts me to 7
>gets soulsquished
>concedes because I have lethal set up on board and he just used his burst
these sure are some "master" rank players..
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>>172965378
Ilmatyynyalukseni on täynnä ankeriaita
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>>172965224
It was just weird seeing the "treated same as quickblader" when there's no quickblader specific thing.
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>>172965149
Draw perfectly, hope they dont draw remotely well, wonder why you play a shit deck.
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>>172965463
She's a fictional character you idiot how would that even work you inbreed mongoloid?
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BUILD THE WALL TO KEEP THE PEDOS OUT
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>>172965463
I want to be Luna!
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>>172965494
hip-hop hooray
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>>172965523
the "point" to me is that alternate art versions of cards are not just restricted to very specific legendaries which I like.
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>didn't think the game could powercreep more after rob
>these tempest cards

im scared of the next expansion. what more can they give dragon?
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I'm so fucking done with this shit, all I play against anymore is aegis decks, it's tilting me off the face of the planet.
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>>172965326
Post dick
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>>172965594
D-do you really?
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>>172965494
It's a common play if there is nothing else he could have done.
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>people still play d shift
I don't get it
I really don't get it
Shouldn't it be at like 30% winrate in this meta?
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>>172965096
Please respond!
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>>172965523
It's so you can't play both in the same deck.
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>>172965662
he didn't have to use his last evo point to do it especially when I already had things on the board and he saw me play 2 cerbs
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>>172965491
Always and forever.
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>>172965664
I haven't played my dshift yet, I give you results sooner or later.
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>>172965149
something something, spooky value skeletons, feed your reapers, t6 breath into t7 hektor, etc etc.
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>>172965523

Its future-proofing.
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>>172965685
2 baha and 1 olivia off.

>hm D0?
just test yourself dude
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[angry dog noises]
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>>172965685
Got to mastesr with this.
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>>172965502
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>>172965594
I would fill your womb!
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which fucking cards affect aegis??
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>>172965936
>>172965660
Lets hope we have more luck in another timeline!
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>>172966115
elana
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Jesus christ how horrifying
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>>172966115
Basically just Ephemeral Moon. Entangling Vines is meaningless since it only lasts until end of turn.

If Aegis actually proves problematic in the end, they'll give us a generic hard counter.
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>>172966115

Kaguys's amulet.
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>>172965867
>no Irasfil
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>>172965757
You don't know how bad his hand was, so you can't really say that. Since you were still at 7 hp after being hit, evolving to face and praying you don't remove it/have to sacrifice board to remove it was probably his only way of winning.
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>>172966115
IIRC devs said -atk effects, so maybe Kaguya and forest spells cards.
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>>172965867
>No Grimnir
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After /svg/ memedealer fiasco I can safely say that I will never again dust "useless" legos.
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>>172966063
Protip: scroll down on shadowverse-portal to change the language from korean to english.
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I should have skip my turn just to laugh at lesser-seraph.
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>>172966115
Not sure if playing Execution helps a bit.
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>>172966261
>>172966262
>>172966308
what the fuck

every other big win con card has all craft access counters
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>>172966115
INDESTRUCTABLE
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>>172966201
these new animateds are really something else, check out minthe and frogbat.
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>>172966063
I love demonic strike. Always good for finishing the job if they put up a big ward
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>>172966495

Just kill the hag before turn 9 bro.
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>csword player since DE
>gawain finally out of maintenance
>sort a beautiful csword deck full of legos of all costs
>play ranked
>dragon, dragon, dragon, shadow, shadow, haven - repeat

Looks like I'll be taking a 3 month vacation again
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>>172966612
xd
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>>172966495
Do tell me the neutral counter to dshift and skeletons summoning skeletons summoning skeletons summoning skeletons.
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>>172966495
Not everything has or needs counters in a game that's as fast as aggroverse
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>>172966201
>>172966549
This shit is hilarious.
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>>172966201
>didn't pull a single animated Owlcat
I feel gypped.
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>>172966626

Nah, just quit and don't post here
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>tastemybladeofresentment.

what the fuck did they doooo.
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>>172966209
What does Satan do to Bahamut?
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Should I remove AGRS for two more Ouroboros and one more Sibyl?
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>>172966549
heh that's pretty clever
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>>172965867
>>172965903
I feel like you're both messing with me
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I want to sniff Princess Vanguard's butt
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>Gawain is complete shit
>Pepe is the only good thing Sword got this expac
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>Saha
>Baha
>Zell
>Did you survive? Grimnir

I have only played against Dragoncraft today.

>f u n a n d i n t e r a c t i v e
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Seraph or not seraph. You should be able to resolve this problem
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>>172966352
>I should have kept these bad legendaries for hope that they would one day be viable in a tier 2 deck!
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>>172966872
>>172966721
>>172966201
Soon we're gonna get cards that have entire animated attacks
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>>172966903
Roland is good.
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How come people still play dshift when the ladder is infested with aggro?
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>>172965627
>garbage meme class for 2 expansions got a few good cards in TotG expansion and is now competitive/meta
>oh my god, what can we do against this dragon domination, I fear for our future
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>>172966867
rahab instead of imprisoned. 2 sibyl is enough.
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>>172966702
grimnir balanced cyclone
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>>172966936
>>172966626
pls cry more
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>>172967027
they hate something else so they don't care
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>>172966867
This is the greediest dragon list I've seen so far
Slap in some satans instead so you can drag games not only to turn 20 but turn 30 instead
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Best frog
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>>172966963
You don't have the third activator, they're out of evos and some Sword lists run Mentor.

Themis and Holy Water.
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>>172966963

>Mentor's teachings if you dont.

>9+ storm damage if you do.

You're dead either way.
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>>172966867
pic related is your deck
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>>172967173
His jap voice is oddly calming
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Yikes.
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>>172967164
It's not like I needed to craft any legendaries so fuck it why not go all the way.

>>172967080
I'll make that change then.

>>172967173
Shame he gets crushed rather easily.
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>>172966963
Banner memes are the type of decks to run shit like Mentor's, just Themis bro
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>>172967335
"""free to play"""
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Pretty spicy pepe deck youve got there.
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>>172967027
And dragon can fuck d-shift with storm.
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>>172967027
After playing solitaire for so long they forgot how to interact with other players and stick with solitaire.
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>>172967335
>only 44k

cheap deck bringing down the reported winrate. keep doing the job of not getting it nerfed.
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>>172966115
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Haha go banish yourself havencuck
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>>172966867
This nigga man
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>>172966867
3 zeus?????? 2 olivias???? What the fuck are you doing?
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>>172967443
I already have most of the deck and a handful of legos
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>>172967173
I appreciate the theme in his voice lines, card art and ability.
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>>172967335
>>172967413
>>172967443
>spent 80k in a deck that is tier 3 ahhaha dragon sucks meme craft

cry more albert and daria fags
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>>172967478
>kel
Is this rank B?
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>>172967083
Yeah I'll remember that next time I manage to leave until t10 while holding grimnir.
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>>172966867
-1 Fevor +1 Sibyl
-2 Imprisoned Dragon +2 Rahab
-3 Aiela +2 Ouro and +1 Satan
That might just get you over 80k vials which i'm pretty sure is what you're going for.
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>>172966352
>I fell for the soul dealer meme deck
>10k vials wasted when I literally kms every single game
That's your post in 2 weeks.
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Getting closer.

in before "kys shadowbab" I love you too.
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>>172966970
>tier 2 deck
>literally recks shadowbabs a tier 1 deck
LMAO
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>>172967619

You're supposed to play grimm on curve against aggro, dumbass.
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To Swordbabs.

These are the two lists that are making rounds using Gawain right now that is having great success.

Top is the Walfrid deck.
Bottom is the Cannon Leo deck.

The bottom deck is actually seeing winstreaks. The Walfrid deck gets kinda iffy when Albert isn't in the deck. But I get why the sacrificed has been made.
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>>172967278
>>172967386
Oh shit, I forgot mentor.

I was lucky then, cause I seraphed and won.
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Gawain should reduce the cost of all commanders in your deck when he attacks.
Hell, he could reduce the cost of all the cards in your deck and I'm not sure that'd be enough in this meta to make him viable thanks to swords absolutely crap draw engine.
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>>172967680
>yfw the thread was filled with "press F to pay respects to luna" posts as the game was going down for maintenance last week
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>>172966352
The memedealer deck is good because of Belphegor, not meme dealer.
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>>172967478
>aggropedo spamming emotes because he drew his howl finisher
You're worse than the nip Rune players.
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>>172967591
AA1, maybe he was trying to meme
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>>172967713
Speaking of curve, that's exactly when orthrus drops isn't it?
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>>172967027
They dont know how to play anything else.
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>>172967630
80k is small time.
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>>172967786
They were mostly for Nep though and she's dead.
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>>172967636
>implying

>>172967787
Of course, but meme dealer is quite helpful as well.
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>>172967132
You can't deny that Dragon hasn't gone a little overboard now. Ramp means easy access to threatening neutrals - turn 9 (aka game turn 6) = 13 face damage (bahamut) or 10 face and 2 to all minions if they don't have a ward (israfil), a legendary-tier gold that acts as both an early ward and a late game reach,, a full board banish with NO downsides (unlike themis and bahamut which requires you to ruin your board as well), early ramp+healing in the form of Sybil.. etc.

There's just way too many cards that cover all former weaknesses in Dragon right now. And then there's Ouro, a Demonic Strike and Better Healing Angel on top of a high attack that you can recycle unless you're playing against the 2 classes with Banish. Right now it feels like Dragon got waaaaay too many cards that can cover multiple roles and the only way to beat them is to aggro or hope they brick and aren't able to spam removal into chaining legendaries from your turn 6. I've only faced Dragoncraft today and desu if I had all the cards I'd play dragon too because of it's absurd powerlevel.


But what do I know, I'm just a newfag who put all my eggs in a Nepdeck two weeks ago and will now hop the skellington bandwagon.
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>>172966352
I can't think of any way in which OG Jeanne can become useful though. She's just too low impact for the cost.
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Dragon has too many big fun cards to work with now. What do I include?
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>>172967929
Please convince everyone to run this deck.

t. aggrobats main.
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>>172967787
it is LITERALLY, and I mean LITERALLY good because of the insane amount of utility you can get from very low cost cards especially when they're played one after another

soul dealer is basically 3 more belphs so you can draw at least one of them by turn 4 guaranteed

everything else is just buttfucking the opponent using your vengeance to turn mediocre cards into really good cards
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>>172967478
Don't be rude Luna. You are only allowed to do this to Dshift. Fuck those guys.
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>>172967929
>all legendary deck
>we definitely HS now
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>Play a mirror match
>We literally play the same cards in the same order for four turns
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>>172968010
Dragon is strong and not a meme.

this is the problem
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>>172967753
Albert should be able to attack 14 times.
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>>172968010
don't reply to the esl shitposter
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>>172967931
please post your exact deck i fucking beg you
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How are people making 80k Dragon decks? I feel this is the most expensive I can make it while still making it playable.
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>>172966903
>>Pepe is the only good thing Sword got this expac
Luminous Mage is the best new Sword card and it's abundantly obvious.
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>>172967027
Dshit removed Merlin for Lou, so it's pretty much a budget build now.
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>>172967716
Here's another version of the Cannon deck.
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What if Alexander + athena with 14 attacks can secretly delete the aegis?
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>>172967753
kys Swordbab
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>>172968010
Ramp dragon bricks 50% of the time. But in my case, it bricks harder than playing Daria.
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>>172968197
ples cry more.

dragon is OP.

NERF YURIUS is OVERSTATTED AND PIRATESTONE THE END OF SHADOWVERSE.

BADLY DESIGNED POWER CREEP and anoth buzzword
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>>172968010
This is what they've always wanted. This is their way of making dragon "viable". Remember all those retardedly OP card idea hey were throwing around RoB. They really want them.
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>>172968261
Why Date instead of Scyther?
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>>172967680
It's cringy as fuck whenever someone posts a screenshot of them getting to rank AA/Master with a tier 1 deck in the background.
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>>172968249
game-ai.jp
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>>172968409
Just for the vials, honestly.
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>>172968409
I'm guessing because
>the most expensive I can make it
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>>172968409

Probably because he doesn't actually play the game
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Anyone know how enhanced albert + arriet works? Does he attack 3 times or 4 times?
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>>172968010
>3 wards in hand
>didn't play them
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>>172968540
should attack 4 times.

hydra work like that
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>>172967716
>no Albert in top deck
Delete
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>>172966963
Of course you drop the Seraph. The only way he kills you from this board state is by using a shitty buff spell.

If you were to Themis + Holy Water here you would live one more turn and still not be in a position to safely drop Seraph, as he'd be able to vomit another board with equivalent or better stats and continue storming your face, only this time you aren't guaranteed to have an answer.

Furthermore, despite the fact that you only have two countdown reducers right now, you're going to have at minimum two more draws to fish for another, and you play a lot more of them in the deck than anything else.

tl;dr gambling to win is better than gambling to not lose.
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>>172968436
That's mid shadow though, it's not T1 currently.
Also post like these are more cringy desu.
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>>172968523
>>172968528
oh
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>drop two meme dealers
>still win
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>>172968540
4
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How's this budget Dragon look?
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>>172968267
>lumi mage
>gets slaughtered and still loses
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>>172968436
Yeah, I rode aggro shadow to my trials and won the first game with it. Then I switched to PtP Rune to get my last win. I had to restart my trials a few times but I got it eventually. Then I took a screenshot and showed all my friends, and now I'm the coolest kid in Shadowverse. Thanks Cygames!
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>>172968010
>But what do I know, I'm just a newfag who put all my eggs in a Nepdeck two weeks ago and will now hop the skellington bandwagon.
I always said that fast Shadow is the best Shadow. Should've hopped on that doggy.

>>172968390
Also yeah Dragon is the Timmy class so it's to be expected.
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>>172968010
The mechanic is just fucking retarded. Dragon gets PP while everyone else is just a cost/requirement.
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redpill me on disco dragon
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>>172968661
>Feena
Yeah man gotta tutor those dingdongs
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>>172968726
Rune
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>>172968436
You are the worst type of person.

>>172968702
Don't justify yourself to these idiots dude, you did good work.
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>>172968661
bellringer sucks. put in unica. it will at least trade and kill the aggro on board and has psuedo taunt.

also,

>54k vial "budget" deck

and neutral deck is not good with 1 saha and 1 lucifer. youll spend like 20 games before you get the combo off.
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>>172968726
post more.

this is like Daria and Forest times
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I've never vialed something faster than I just vialed this animated Dark Jeanne
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>>172967716
Mine is very close to bottom except with 1 Roland and it's doing extremely well.
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the metagame
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>>172968097
Give it 2-3 more expansions and it might really be a thing.
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>Played Shadow since DE
>Everyone thinks I'm a filthy netdecker now
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>>172968830
I think the second post you quoted was being sarcastic
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>>172968836
>>54k vial "budget" deck
What do you mean
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>>172968836
he also has bahamut and israfil to use with sahaquiel, but yes having 1 is worthless.
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Guys is Rahab a meme? I think I rather have back my turn 4 dragon warrior evo.
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>>172968893
>aggro vampire
>4.5

Literally how.
It's getting fucking destroyed by haven and dragon.
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>>172968610
Oh, I didn't even see that Death's breath in the screenshot, now I feel dumb.

pls forgive me
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>>172968871
Isn't Turn 5 Support Cannon only drop scary?
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>>172968893
Is "Aggro Vampire" the meme dealer version.
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>>172968893
>forest is tier 4

best timeline
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>>172967413
It's free to play if you're not a filthy bandwagoner.
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>>172969065
Rahab is arguably the best card Dragon got this expansion aside from maybe Sibyl.
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>>172968893
Is aggro vampire the vengence aggro deck from rank 2 masters guy?
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>>172968893
Man, I just want to nestle my head in those pillows.
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Have you ever considered, just for a second even, being sexually attracted to a Shadowverse girl?
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>>172969132
Waterwyrm is easily the best
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>dshift
>HURRR let me jerk off in between playing my cards
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>>172968893
>dimensional witch
>tempo witch

Isn't that the same deck?
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>Arriet doesn't let aegis attack twice.
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>>172969065
>t4 with 8pp
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>>172969170
Nope, never.
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>>172968893
No good source, shitty list.
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>>172969170

Nope, I'm gay.

Lucifer, on the other hand...
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>>172967716
>pulled 2 rolands (1 animated)
>she looks pretty cool
>absolute garbage

Just end my life
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>>172969078
Dragons are literally free wins.
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>>172968893
>Pulled 3 Dark Jeanne
>Tier 7 deck
Thanks RNG, I really enjoy watching everyone else get free wins with their new Dragon decks.
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>>172969153
is this one i think
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>>172967002
Would be nice.

>tfw right now half the legendaries have the same entrance animation that looks like an implosion followed by a pillar just in different colors
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>>172969220
Dimensional Witch - D-Shift
Tempo - Daria
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>>172969153
If you're talking about from last month then yeah he's the one that made that deck popular. It's not really an aggro deck or even a straight midrange deck. Easier to just name it Vengeance or Storm Blood. He changed that list to put in Succubus too.
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>>172969260
lolibutt
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>>172969102
Going first it is. Second honestly isn't too scary. Gawain getting full stats on evolve is a lifesaver.
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>>172969170
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>>172969220
Dimensional witch is dshift and tempo witch daria.
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>>172968908
>played Shadow since DE
>never played shadow aggro because I hate this piece of shit deck
>don't play it now either
>have to fumble around with midrange
>it's still only slightly above average
>can't say anything about how bullshit aegis or dragon is now because everyone's response is "huurrr shadow is T1 now so you can't complain."

I guess Tyrant is t1 now too.
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>>172969290
why the fuck do you have baphomet in your deck are you retarded lol
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>>172969286

>Roland
>Garbage

How can someone be so wrong?
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>all these PC normans complaining about the art style and calling fictional imagery of "naked 8-year olds" pedophilia
Holy shit, holy fucking shit I am angry now. So this is the fucking cancer trying to kill video games and anime. I really, really hope Cygames doesn't listen to these faggots in an attempt to pander to the ever-growing western audience, because if Cygames decides to chase after that sweet PC norman bux, other Japanese companies might try to do the same. The end result? /v/'s and /a/'s and /jp/'s worst nightmare, the death of weeb video games anime and visual novels.
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>dragon is tier 1
>ramp dragon costs 80k vials
>game is now pay to win
What did they mean by this
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>>172968390
They wanted dragon to play midrange with no earlygame ramp. Literally the entire set of cards they received besides maybe Zell supports a midrange playstyle, and Sibyl's effect actively encourages curving her out naturally. What they failed to account for is that people would just ramp anyway because Sibyl is so damn overpowered (lmao 5 mana 4/5 lucifer that ramps) that playing her out of curve when you're already at 7 mana is still extremely good, and that Grimnir enhanve would be a broken piece of shit run in every single deck.
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>>172968893
>hector midrange lower than aggro
really makes you think
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>>172968436
i made it to AA with aggro shadow last expac so fuck you
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>lose an 8-win streak to some havenshitter who's probably never even touched the class before today

I fucking hate this game and everyone who plays it.
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>>172969526
Not really, it's pretty obvious
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>>172969260
oh baby
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>>172969359
>>172969451
Ah right. Thanks.
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>>172969467
How else am I gonna insult my enemies by playing memedealers?
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Is there a guide on which daily missions to replace for max efficiency?
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>>172969530
You're fine as long as you didn't use Dshift or """""""""""""Mid""""""""""""" Sword.
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>>172969170
Arisa is my soulmate!
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>>172968661
I know this is a joke, but why would you even consider including 1-ofs of certain cards in there
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>>172969290
That's not "vengeance vampire" though? What's then? Snakes?

Did aggro vampire also move to vengeance?
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>>172969473
I didn't mean it in that way. In a vacuum she's probably good, but she can not coexist in a meta where Bahamuts and Lightning Blasts are running rampant, thus garbage if you plan to use her right now.
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>>172969648
replace 20 gold ones unless you can do them all with a single class
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>>172967716
>Triple Sage and Walfrid
>No Albert or Alwida's
Isn't that betting a little too hard on Otomeme actually sticking?
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>>172969248
That doesn't always happen.
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>>172969481
Never like western cartoony shit, not even once.
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Someone post jap d-shift decks.
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>>172968893
>lucifer concede witch

that sounds like an exquisite meme
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I feel like 2 ouroboros is already too many, I always draw both or none.
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>>172969631
dude most decks will punish you extremely hard by the time you get to play a 1 point meme dealer by !!!turn 6!!!!

it really isn't worth it my man, replace baph with succubus or veight or whatever

i am not memeing when i say literally anything is better than baph in a suisido blood deck
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96855
need a quick win, much appreciated
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>>172969684
Cause it's all I can afford.
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>>172969504
Or that Bahamut exists or that they've made Saha and Israfil.
It really is neutralcraft.
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LUNA IS SHIT
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>>172968893
How many nukes before japs stop playing Dshit?
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>>172968893
What is Secret Concede Witch?
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>>172968893
>midrange blood nowhere on the list
Yeah this is wrong
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LUNA IS CUTE!
CUTE!
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>>172969831
thank you Luna!
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>>172968893
So how long before we have only Dragon ramp in T1?
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>>172969720
He just copied Apporo's deck.
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>believed the hype
>made 2 sneks
>boardclear verse

The most embarrassing one was a 7/5 fucking frog cyclone blading them.
What have i done /svg/?
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>>172969882
its 4 stars you fucking moron brainless skeleton fucker. and its more accurate than self reported "stats" from 20k vial dragon decks losing to aggro.
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>>172969980
I give it about 2 weeks tops.

There's no way Shadow will stay T1 as long as Haven exists.
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>>172969648
Replace any 20 gold ones since that's the lowest they can go.
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>>172969526
Hector loses to aegis. Aggro beats both dragon and aegis.
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>>172970000
>7/5 frog
>vs a class with revelation

embarrassing.
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>>172970028
>midrange blood
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>>172970000
You got memed on. Twice.
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>>172969869
Dirt wardspam
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What are the take two tiers right now?

Dragon > Shadow/Sword > all else? Or what?
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>>172969960
It's true.
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>>172970000
>Aggro Bats, CBlood, Snakes all trash tier
>only competitive blood deck right now runs 3x soul dealer

The irony runs deep. Especially if you listened to /svg/ who said he will always be meme tier and should be instant vialed.
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>>172970000
You know, hindsight is 20/20 and at the time of TotG previews I wasn't playing (because RoB was trash) so I didn't really pay much attention to them, but one can kind of look at Malestrom Serpent and just see that the card isn't all that great.

Also nigga you have Revelation how did that Frog live?
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>>172968893
>Aggro vampire t1.5
I'm glad someone recognizes this.
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Out of the loop
So Gawain is actually not a meme and Roland is shit compared to Frontguard?
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>>172970000
>The most embarrassing one was a 7/5 fucking frog cyclone blading them.
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This made my day just that little bit sweeter
Guess I vial a non animated one now
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>>172969801
The point isn't to have a 1pp memedealer (although I did that too as you can see, great fun), but have his as a turn 4 play if you can follow up with vengeance cards.
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step up that memegame Rowen
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>sword finally gets useful amulets other than banner
>after RoB rendered them useless

I'm so glad I didn't fell for the ToG csword meme.

This shit is absolutely useless against all top played decks.
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>>172970268
I need more Luna pics to counterbalance all my Vampy ones.
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So why is Phoenix Roost restricted anyway? They don't seem to have given a reason.
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>>172970398
It interacted with heavenly aegis in an unforseen way
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>>172970354
m-maybe roland will be useful in 2 xpacs..
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>>172970000
It was only 4/3 the turn before man i didnt expect it to become a 7/5 and then cyclone blade all my snakes, not that i had rev anyway
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>this is the top tier deck according to gameai
what in the world is this pile of trash?
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>>172970292
What's aggro vampire though? If it's the old deck then no fucking way. If it's the new Belphegor/meme dealer one then it's understandable, except wouldn't that be vengeance vampire?
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>>172967868
Orthus is great on curve, but she's a bit wasteful against Grim
90% of the time the board is 1/2 and 2/2, maybe Skelle'd up on your side, Grim on their side
If you Orthus, the 2 damage is wasted unless you ram the 1/2 in, in which case Grim already absorbed 3 damage while all you did was develop a 1/2
It's still likely the best play outside of Zombie party + develop reaper, but it's not an instawin like you make it out to be
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>>172970340
Both wrong.
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>>172970353
>the one game in 10 that Minthe actually works
I hate this piece of shit legendary so much.
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>>172970000
>tfw fell for the CBlood meme during RoB
>Didn't learn my lesson and feel for the snake meme this time

Bloodcraft will always be a meme class.
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>>172970284
To be fair nearly everyone thought Soul Dealer would be meme tier forever. It's not like he's someone to aim for if you're rerolling now either.
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>>172970481
for >>172970165
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>>172969481
this is the cringiest most autistic thing i've ever read

one game hypothetically making more "norman" art to appeal to westerners isn't going to make the japanese empire of weeb shit dissolve. you can't be serious, dude.
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>>172970507
looks about right
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>this will be a control meta according to /svg/
>can't pass my trials for 10+ matches with DShift because every match is aggro shadow and aggro blood

/svg/ does it again! Fucking retards.
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>>172970448
Why couldn't it have been Test of Strength? Fuck.
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>>172966626
Where were you? CSword was in a great spot in RoB, we finally got a wincon
ToG is actually more support to that wincon, albeit everyone else got so much more we're left behind a bit.
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>>172970536
i actually kinda like her, nice combo tool for later in the game and if the opponent does nothing to her turn 5 you can wrap up the game right there.
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>>172970523
Yeah I'd describe the soul dealer one as midrange/vengance vampire. My aggro blood deck is doing well in AA2, it's just a modified version of the old one.
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>>172968893
>Lucifer Concede Witch
Does it concede to Lucifer? Does it make your opponent concede when you drop Lucifer? So many answered questions.
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>>172970507
I don't play Shadow (no legs), but their Aegis list is junk too.

Still, WE 4.5 NIGGAZ
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>>172970507
That's midrange shadow. It's not top tier.
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>>172969684
think a little harder
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>>172970507
First off, it's not, they have midrange in T2. I've been using that exact list, though, and it's fine. Urd plays on 4 with Lurching/Attendants/Chimeras and Prince are fun.
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>no free packs after gawain comes out of maintenance because cygames knows he's trash and nobody would use him

I'm so mad. Sword was my favourite class and it's close to unplayable with dragon being so prevalent without playing a meme frog. I love playing dragon but I'd let it drop out of the meta in an instant if I could play sword again.
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>>172970730
I played against a rune guy with saha lucifer and bahamut at AA3
he conceded
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>Playing against Sword
>She uses Gawain to now summon THREE alberts
>I have 10pp and three lightning blast in hand
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>>172970507
I'll never understand why people keep running Spartoi Sergeant in a deck that has almost no necromancy. Soulsquasher isn't something you want to curve out ASAP anyway.
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>Actually pull animated leggo for daily pack
H-hip hip hooray.
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>>172970507
its called brick shadow that gets eaten by dragon and haven.
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>>172970702
Csword was in a good spot until they nerfed daria/roach. Then midrange became a much stronger deck (again).
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>>172970843
>Sword was my favourite class and it's close to unplayable

You can play "midrange" just fine and prey on dem rowanz.

I too want to play CSword again but zero Roland so far.
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Is it necessary to save an evo point for Aegis?
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Yay! I finally have the set!
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>>172970284
I'll just play Aegis until they buff control vamp again next expansion.
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>>172970894
Regardless of it being a shit card the art is fucking great. The animated even better.
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>>172970894
Congrats!
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When will this ugly fucker get the Ta-G treatment?
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>tfw unpack legendary
>it's Minthe
At least she's cute right?
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>>172971035
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>>172970683
>d-shitter complaining

hmm what fabulous meta
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>>172971023
It helps. Can't always afford it, though.

(No, running Olivia is actually a shit idea.)
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>>172970887
you need the shadows for phantom (5), mummy (4), and lolisquasher (4) and its a 2/2. its insanely strong.
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>>172971105
She is super cute and her animated is great. Hopefully she finds a place in a deck one day.
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Reminder than forest is still t1 and roach still needs to be gutted.
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>>172971105
The emblem is choice.
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>>172970841
This. I've had a version similar to this myself just for fun, except without thanes. It's ok against dragon because they'll think twice bahamuting your corpses, but haven is extra painful seeing all those attendants getting banished.
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>>172971047
>Roland
>Shit

Dude, what? Are you A0 or something and think you're hot shit?
>>
Dragon is super fucking funny.
>That crazy stuff you can play for maybe one or two turns with other decks is most of the game as Dragon
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>>172971093
>not liking goblins

get aload of this S C U M
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>>172971023
If you were going to win with your aegis with 10/10, you would have also won at 8/8

there are better things to spend evo points on
unless of course you need it right away to kill an enemy on the board
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>>172971238
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>>172971157
>Olivia
Well its a good thing I'm not retarded enough to run another 9pp card other than Aegis
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>>172971247
Dunno man.

Try playing against dragon with that and you'll see.

lmao
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>>172970843
I switched to playing Vengeance Vampire for ToG because it's pretty similar to midrange with Airjammer and also pretty fun. Haven't tried out Gawain decks yet but maybe those will be good. There's no reason to play aggro because skeletons does it way better.
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>>172971035
Hello there, young lady...
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>>172970683
I knew it
If you're trying to push really overpowered end game bullshit, people will just aggro more.
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>>172971093
Whatcha mean?
>>
Swordbabs, how's Gawain working out?
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>>172970348
>>172969801
Here you can see what I mean.
It's just beautiful.
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>>172971364
Bahamut is almost always a good card.
>>
im pretty much done with this shit game at this point. Its actually insane how they powercreeped everything and how stupid dragon is. Therers no way to sell accounts are there?
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>>172970894
even roland says "IKUZO" when summoned

sword will never stop being albertcraft
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>>172971446
Who gives a shit babby
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>>172971035

>tfw you want to suicide her as a dragon asap

And as a aggro I always have 1 attack followers only flooding the board so you have to do it over 2 turns.
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>>172971402
I am. I'm winning with it in masters.
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>/svg/ thinks their animated cards look nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEcMp2Psnb8
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>>172971469
what do you think dark general's skirt smells like
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>>172971402
By that logic DShift is garbage because
>try playing with that against Aggro Shadow and you'll see
Fucking retard.
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>>172971364
Fun fact: Gameai's list is, indeed, retarded enough.

Net decks are often crappy.
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>>172971567
CRY MORE daria fag or albert fag
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>>172970841
Doesn't it mean it's the best deck according to Gameai if it's at the very top on http://game-ai.jp/necromancer-navigation/?from=index_icon ?

Correct me if I'm wrong, I only look through this site to see what I'm going up against, I don't play the decks.
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>>172971769
Dshift would be pretty garbage if everyone was playing aggro, not really seeing your point m8
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I never played forest till now, since I'm a bit against OP decks, but now that's it been nerfed to a respectable powerhouse I gave it a chance and spent vials to build a Wolf/Roach deck. So I have to say...it is one the most skill oriented decks in the game! I have every deck you can think of and I have never had to think as much im any other craft than in forest! Forest has a shitty boardclear, i would compare it shadows but shadow has Hector now on top of the skeleton army. Every fatty that drops could mean game over for you as forest, but when you do win it's very satisfying. I wouldn't say forest is weak right now but it does a need a couple answers to fattys, honestly a rush bane follower for 6-7pp would fill in that gap and make it 4/4 to keep it honest. For sure forest is still pretty good, and anyone wants a decklist, this is the one I've been wimning with.
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>>172971740
They look better than those because those cards look like ass.
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>>172971612
K I L L
Y O U R
S E L F
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What does aggro blood look like post ToG? I was using the old #1 blood list.
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>>172971762
Ass sweat and the blood of her enemies.
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>>172971567
Cry more.
>powercreep
I doubt you can even give me a single example of powercreep outside of Grimnir.
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>>172971862
Why so hostile?
I'm just asking a simple question.
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What cards should I look for if I'm rerolling for Runecraft/Swordcraft?
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>>172971704
I've pulled 2 now. Do you swap out Frontguard for her or run both?
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>>172971740
They were made from the start to be like this.
SV cards are just photoshoped preexisting art.
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>>172971862
don't reply to esl shitposters
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>>172971973
>rune
d-shift,daria and levi
>sword
Albert
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>>172971346
It bullies haven, dshift, and aegis while you can tech against shadow now with Mandrake.
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What are seer's globes?
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>>172970348
i am talking about fucking baphomet lol
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>>172971740
Honestly they do look great.
But the game itself is bad so it don't matter
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>>172971796
People forget GameAI is JP Gamepress. It's good for references if you need something to get started, but they throw up absolute garbage at times. I still remember that storm haven deck with Godsteel Wings, that some people actually fell for.
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>>172971990
Both.
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>>172972101
>haven
>and aegis
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>>172971991
No they weren't actually
They make a 3D model and use the non animated art as textures
SV just adds shiny effects, it's pretty pathetic in comparison
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>>172971839
No, the lists are posted by date. The midrange list is the newest, so it's on top. Here's their tier list. Aggro is in T1 with Dragon and Eachtar midrange is n T2.

http://game-ai.jp/12306/?from=index_menu
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>Mutagentic Bolt
Wow it's fucking nothing
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How fun is it to play aegis haven?
I almost have all the cards, and was thinking about making a second aegis since i pulled one
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>>172971567
>tfw have one Lucifer, one animated Israfil, one Bahamut
>Dragon is so expensive to craft that it doesn't matter anyway
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>>172971912
Not him but what is Blast?

>>172972156
Hey, GodSteel Wing is great. In T2.
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>played sneks
>its shit
Holy fuck all you guys praising it. I fell for this shit meme.
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>>172971740
gwent isn't a card game
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>>172972136
bapho draws soul dealer, why would you not want that
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give me a good pepecraft list that can get wins for my sword quests /svg/
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>>172971901
...Fuck
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>>172971869
Please respond
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>>172972136
See >>172971469
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>>172972194
Ahh, I see. Thanks for clarifying.
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>>172972278
dragon and shadow are the only new decks that aren't memes
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>>172971853
I honestly don't see the point of elf queen.

I use 2 aerins and 2 tias instead.
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>>172968606

You are right. I sometimes rage because dropping seraph was a bad move, but I have more win than lose, when gambling to win.
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>>172970683
Aggro is always dominant at the start of the expansion.
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>>172971612
She does not look like this.
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>>172972331
same thing anon.

go first drop yurius against shadow is autowin
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>>172972215
If you have to ask, don't play it.
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>>172972331
>>172971869
I can explain this decks matchups and what each card does if you like
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>>172969882
>eachtar midrange
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>NOBODY THINKS FOR THEMSELVES
>EVERYBODY ASKING FOR DECKS
>FILTHY NETDECKERS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172972331
that version is awful
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I tried to make a decent-ish aggro list for sword involving Gawain and Walfrid.
I doubt it's going to be very good.
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>>172972208
But can you lethal? I don't know the effect of your other cards aside from your 1pp's and FT.
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>>172972290
are you actually serious about wasting turn 5 so you can throw down a 2/1 and draw a 1 point meme dealer that you should've played on turn 4 anyway?

the point of this deck is to hard mulligan for meme dealer and play him on turn 4, playing belph if you don't draw him and then working your way from there

if you weren't a stupid netdecking faggot you could use logic and think this through but nah

whatever man lol
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oh my god, i just want to finish my stupid fucking mission for some poverty gold reeee

can someone link me a "cheap" shadow deck that can beat the 800 rowens with 80 billion legendaries im queueing into please. I only have 1 cerb and none of the new shadow legos if that matters
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>>172972504
Echtar gives everyone +2/+0
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>>172972456
Guess i'll just waste all my vials on a deck I might not enjoy then hehexd
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is dragon scythe just a better date masumune?
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>>172972464
I'm not the guy who asked but am interested.

No Fortress AND no DStrike?
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>>172972478
you kinda
don't made a aggro deck
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I started playing last month so ToG was my first expansion. I blew pretty much all my rupees on packs from it. When's a good time to start saving for the next one, do they come every 2 or 3 months? Otherwise I'll just be playing T2 whenever I have 150 rupees.
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>Spent 20k vials on a dragon deck
>Lose every time you don't get to turn5 fervor
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do you think it's about time i can take lightning bolt out of my dragon ramp deck now?
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>>172971912
Bahamut for one was already ridiculous but wincons like seraph, turn 9 albert, Otk roach, Daria on 5 kept it modest. None of those are even relevant in this meta, this meta is control drop your bahamut, Aegis, or banish your opponents followers and amulets lel. It's not fun game design as it pidgeon wholes on what is viable. It's play Midrange/aggro shadow or else see who draws their wincons first, why do you think going first is important now more than ever?
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>>172972464
Do you ever run out of steam and wish you had demonic strikes?
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>>172972208
Evolve one, deal 5 damage + 2.

Then see her reaction.
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>>172972540
just don't play the enhanced bapho, i really don't understand the problem here
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>>172972578
Ohh, sasuga senpai.
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Is there ANY way for haven to beat dragon?
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>>172972645
Depends on what your collection looks like, what decks you want to play, and how patient you are. I ended up not going through all my gold for ToG so I'm sitting on 4.3k for next expansion.
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>>172972561
If you have Atomy, use him.

Eventually you win.
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>>172972671
fervor is usually a dead card to play on turn 5.
if your opponent simply lets you play it then you've already won regardless.
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>>172972706
why play bapho without enhance when you can get way better value cards

i don't fucking understand lol
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>>172972731
hope they brick or run acolytes light to deal with an early ouro.
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>when you beat dragon in a shitty matchup because he didn't draw taunt while you drew a turn 9 albert
That's God telling dragon bandwagoners to fucking kill themselves.
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>>172972698
The rats proc on your turn only
You'd be giving away your win
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>>172972758
>he thinks fervor is used on turn 5 for dargon

You clearly don't fucking play.
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>>172972754
don't even have him.

I have 3 Nephthys but I don't think she's doing so hot in this new meta
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>>172972639
>>172972697
Fortress is too slow and has to fight with too many other good cards for its space. And what are you talking about? There's 3 Demonic Strikes on the second line.
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>>172972774
>Beat Forte
>She praises me

Dragon players are okay in my book
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>>172972731
aegis fucks dragon hard. You just need to banish and stall until you drop him and they can't do anything.
>>172972806
are you illiterate?
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Making babies with Luna!
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>>172972331
this is the version for patricians only
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>>172972464
What do you think of Angel of the Word?
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>>172972916
I bet she would look so cute with a big tummy. She'd tell me to stop since I'd be bothering the baby but there's no way I'd keep my hands off her!
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>>172972925
me likey
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HEP ME
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>>172971740
Gwent is kinda cool but... how much can you even do with just cards from the witcher universe, really?

It'll be very limited. Just some witcher stuff, animals, dragons and so on.
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>>172972215
It's alright. It's kinda fun being able to make the strongest board in the game even if it takes a long time. It's arguably the best counter to Dragon right now since you have removal, heal, and wards to stop their shit to go with Aegis.
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>Literally always go first

It's kinda weird
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>2k away from masters
I'm gonna make it this week boys
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>>172972884
Storm ramp dragon kills aegis though.
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>>172972925
>3 soul dealers
That would be all of my vials anon, I don't know..
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So after a week of fooling around in Master, I've come to the conclusion that TotG is bad for the health of the game. Aside from the common complaint of Dragon have like a 60% winrate, which is more absurd than Forest ever was, cards like Aegis and Lightning Blast are pandora's boxes. From this point on they won't be topped unless Cygames starts printing specific counters or straight up powercreeps them. This begins the slow downward spiral of bullshit that Yugioh went through and to a lesser extent Hearthstone.

Along with some p2w jew decisions like printing double the amount of legendaries in new sets, my opinion of SV has soured tremendously.
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>>172973028
the fucking mask is killing me
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>>172972397
That's the only card on the list I don't own and have been fine without, 1 of should be more than enough, wish i had two toas to try out as shes one of the few fattys in Forest that gives you a rush follower to defend yourself with. Only problem I see with Tia is having to combo her so you dwindle down your hand and your bolt dmg suffering.
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>>172973063
Ganbare!
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>make the most optimal play playing around most things
>some retard has put something absolutely retarded in his deck that only works in that specific situation against you

fuck off fucking retards
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>>172972835
Oh fuck, I must be blind.

Will try it out.
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>>172973063
Why do people even wanna be in masters?
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How do I cuck Dragonfags? What's the best anti-Dragonmetaverse deck?
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>>172973110

They need to release something far more broken than anything you can imagine for forest to chemo the ladder.
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>>172972774
How do you know he's a bandwagoner? A good amount of the complaints are probably because the good decks are too expensive for tier whore bandwagoners.
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>>172973047
They said they intend to launch with 600 cards
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>>172971740
When you have models and other shit from the game. Of course it is easy to make them look like this.
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>>172973189
to boost their e-peens, why else?
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>>172973104
(desu 2 soul dealer is ABSOLUTELY fine as long as you have 3 belphs but like anon said it's for patricians only (desu i love memedealer so i have 3 of him (i've been looking for an excuse to play him since darkness evolved)))
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>>172973190
Play Dragon.
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What would you have do in my shoes?
Lethal or troll?
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>turn 7 Laura + evolved Soul Dealer hitting face for 8
I THOUGHT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MEME
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>>172973236
When is it launching? I might take a look at it
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>Used to having things I like in games be mediocre or shitty
>Finally have something I like being turbo cancer
This shit never happens outside of Tekken and it feels fucking great.
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>>172973110
Cygames have been Jews for a while now.
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>>172972965
I used to use 2 Aotw and 1 Goblin but I swapped them for 3 Spiderweb because it's so much stronger. It pretty much single handedly wins aggro matchups, especially against Aggro Shadow which doesn't want to play removal on turn 2/3
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>>172973316
It hasn't been announced, most likely Q3 or Q4
It's very easy to get a closed beta key though, just look on gwentdb
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>>172973190
Sword
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>>172973308
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>when your only weeb game becomes cancer
I want to kill myself
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>>172972645
You start saving when you either have nearly everything you want from the current set (ie just a few specific gold and leggos you will probably never pull) or they start previewing the next set.
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>>172972925
No Yurius in this deck made me suspicious but seeing the Airjammer pulls made me a believer. Spider Imp and Wolf are just that strong to go with a 3/4. The only thing that sucks is that once you get to late game Airjammer starts pulling one follower a lot of times.
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>>172973110
>comment with hearthstone

in to the trash it goes.

you are just one dariabb crying over dragon
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>>172973325
>Daria

Who even uses that anymore lmao dude you should no be happy about beating a bottom tier deck
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>>172973472
Troll, Elana players deserve it.
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>>172972464
>I can explain this decks matchups and what each card does if you like

Please do. I'm curious about the 1ATK 2PP ward.
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>>172972464
Wouldn't Soul Dominator be better than Alucard?
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>>172973110
60% winrate? Is it really that high, what was Darias winrate when they nerfed it.
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>>172973330
Never this bad. You get about a pack a day if you do your dailies and Cygames usually gives out 10 packs every month or two for free. That was the main draw of Shadowverse.

By doubling the amount of legendaries and yet keeping the card pool the same, they're making it significantly harder to get all the legendaries (or even the correct ones) if you want to play a meta deck. This is only going to get worse if they print shit legendaries that will never see play and if they increase the number to 3 per craft per expansion.

I really hope Cygames rethinks their decision, because this is the first time I've refrained from spending money when a new expansion dropped.
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>>172973550
can you put on a trip so i can filter you
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>hate aggro shadow with a passion after trying to play it multiple time since DE
>let's give it a try to see what's changed
>never draw cerb when it matters
>never draw howl when it matters
>get warded immediately
>get outhealed immediately
>get outtraded immediately
>run out of cards but turn 5 and resort to top decking

Now I remember why I always hated playing this pile of crap. How is it fucking T1? I win a lot more with midrange.
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I got nothing against Shadow in itself.
But playing against the same deck nine games in a row FUCKING SUCKS
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>>172973180
>During RoB so nobody runs Soul Dealer
>Get a Skeleton Lord on his turn 4
>Only way I lose is if he has Soul Dealer evolve or a cheap follower to put Medusa's Gaze on then evolve
>He has a Soul Dealer
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>>172973703
can you stop posting and play ben10 mmo?

>>172973635
>60% WR
dragon is with 50,9% of WR

>>172973663
>>172973330
>wah wah i can't bandwagonn to t1 deck because dragon was suppose to be bad and albert was going to carry me wah wah
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>>172973190
frogcraft and my little kunoichi training simulator

I'm not even joking this deck fucks them bad
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>>172973550
I'm a Dragonfag, actually. I feel dirty now that I'm stronger than I was back when midrange dragon was king. Nothing but hard aggro or shadow beats me, and even then I still have a positive winrate against Shadow's bullshit.
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>killed grimnir deck with grimnir
Ultimate BM.
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>>172973110
100% agree, luckily the stats reflect what the better players have been saying, which is exactly this. Nerfs will come because of the data..otherwise it would have stayed this way...Also players who think X player is complaining because x player plays this, is a retard and completely wrong.
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Nice 5pp do nothing meme cannon.
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>>172973189
Same as any game; so you can talk shit, and post your meme decks/strats and have shitters take them seriously.
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MUDADA
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Guys, I found Shadowcraft's draw engine.
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>>172973189
You can play meme decks and do monthly score challenges
What a deal!
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>>172973739
Welcome to card games. Where everybody's luck sucks and only you yourself are allowed to win.
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>playing haven/dragon/rune and getting lots of wins
>swap to sword
>lose nearly all of my progress
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>>172973663
I had no problems with the extra legendaries and I didn't spend so you can just maybe you know like get good lmao
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>>172973850
This Rowen is a true warrior
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>>172973850
If he would have properly charged his crystals he wouldn't have lost.
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>>172973834
>>wah wah i can't bandwagonn to t1 deck because dragon was suppose to be bad and albert was going to carry me wah wah
Actually, I play every class. The only legendary I don't have from this expansion and is Minthe, but I don't care much for value/tyrant memes when midrange/aggro is infinitely stronger.

Nice try though.
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>play seraph haven for dailies
>get matched against ptp forest
Did I just step into a time machine?
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CYGAMES NERF YURIUS BLOODCRAFT IS OP THIS GAME IS HEARHTSTONE
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>>172973902
>taking up board space with Shadow
shit nigga what are you doing
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>>172973663
You're making me wanna quit
Stop
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>>172973886
10 / 10, would meme again.
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>>172970507
yup, the midrange i've been playing.
it's not much worse than my aggro and it actually plays like midrange instead of a slower version of aggro, i like it.
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>>172973628
I will test that out, thanks. I hadn't really considered her. It's worth mentioning that Alucard isn't usually what gets me a kill just sometimes

>>172973604
Spiderweb imp - Beats aggro decks, protects other cards i.e Yurius, Blood wolf
Yurius - Beats aggro decks, huge advantage if going first
Blood wolf - Damage or turn 2/3 trades against Unica
Veight - Bat generation and kill Rahab, Grimnir
Bat cards - Obvious application of burn, flooding the board
Demonic Storm - Burn, board clear, has won me a number of games that I would have lost without it
Everything else is pretty obvious. Be liberal with your burn and only use them as removal if you have to.
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>>172973110
>60% winrate
Nice bait,
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>>172974084
On the bright side, Grave Desecration still buffs Spirit Cycle even if your zombies get banished.
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I FOUND A TIER 0 DECK WITH DARK JEANNE
ILL UPLOAD A VIDEO SOON HOLPY FUCKING SHIT
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>>172973739
>I win a lot more with midrange.
Then play mid? I've been doing that because I can't stand playing aggro. Been having a lot of fun with it and have been raking in the wins.
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>>172973663

>this expansion the good legos are for
>dragon
>haven
>you can play with legos/cards from all the previous expansions
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>aegis
>dragons
>le evolved frog

only haven can deal with these

how is this fair?
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>>172965261
>Still playing Wolfbolt when this exists
I mean I guess it's fun if you enjoy losing to Odin/Earthrites
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>>172974128
I'd rather have 3x DStorm to blow up shit like Death's Breath and Guardian Golems in place of Night Horde that I never liked.
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>>172973313
>Meanwhile dragon hits for 11-13
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>>172974163
xD
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>>172973635
Storm Ramp is listed at 60%+, but then you get all the problems of self reported stat sites if you try to use that statistic.
Storm Ramp has always had really good win rates on stat sites, but since regular Ramp wasn't that good nobody cared.
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>>172973993
There aren't any more bros left to charge with
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>>172974192
I'm doing just that. I just don't understand all the fucking constant jerking off to aggro shadow
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>>172973834
I'm this guy

>>172973330

I'm currently playing the full ramp dragon deck for free since I saved up like a shit ton of vials and gold from RoB.

Cygames has a history of Jewing players HARD in their other games.
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>>172974176
>look guys i just managed to win some games with storm haven and got really impressed
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>>172973110

I'm starting to agree.

L. Blast is fucking ridiculous. Aegis + Test is ridiculous. Dragon healing is ridiculous. Board clears everywhere are ridiculous.

Game is going in a really bad direction.
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>>172974281
Good job posting inflated winrates, retard.
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>>172974284
Storm ramp has always been good, but it was tempered by having shitty heals and bending over for aggro/tempo. Now that it has more healing than have on top of more ramp and the turn 7 13 damage to face meme combo, it's fucking ridiculous.

I fully expect it to get nerfed, but knowing Cygames it won't happen for another 2 months so you lads should buckle down and enjoy getting face fucked until then.
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Delete ramp cards
Delete heal cards
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172973836
Ambush Sword huh? Does it meme with Rogue's Creed?
Who would have thought Ambush Sword would become good one day, I dusted all my ambush shit a long time ago
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>>172964993
I just downloaded android version, and can't even win a single multiplayer game, what do ? Fightcade is almost dead so no gaems
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>>172974317
Is it a good thing or a bad thing? One one hand you have a legit T1 deck, but on the other hand you can't JO with your bros for some fun.
>>
Can I get a concede? Let me kill you if you need the private match achievement.
70381
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Don't play Shadowverse drunk.
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>>172973886
And then you meet a havencraft running sun
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>>172974404
>tfw you'll never be able to play midrange again unless you're shadow

Why is Prince Catacombs not a Legendary? :^)
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So what's coming out on top? Elana Aegis, straight aegis, or some other combination?
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>>172974492
Reroll until you get a bunch of Legendaries

And build Frog Swordcraft until you get enough for actually good non meme decks
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>>172974526
Thanks!
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>>172964993
ANDROID UNDUB AND UNCENSOR NEEDS UPDATE FAGGOTS!
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>>172974537
Mordecai has a severe case of the unga
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Why the fuck is runecraft allowed to play 7 fucking cards with only 6pp?

This craft will never not piss me the fuck off
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>>172974447
>sparrow vampire
?

Anyways, aggro usually has good stats at the beginning of each expansion before getting assfucked by other optimized decks. Remember that aggro blood was T1 for a short time in RoB too.
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>>172974601
desu if he was a legendary he'd have full stats on top of his effect
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>>172974636
What do if i want to play runecraft ?
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So eggs heal 2 hp and draw a card every single turn?
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>>172974823
lol no
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>>172974281
what's the second ramp list I can't read those kanji
storm?
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>>172974059
>sword second lowest winrate
Sword went 100 to a 0 real fucking quick
They say Albert still cries to this day
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>>172974792
This semen demon
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>>172974792
Re roll to get daria and
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I assembled the combo
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>>172974890
The 50% dragon list is regular ramp.
The 60% one is storm ramp, which is turbo cancer since it can kill you in two turns.
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>>172974942
>>172974935
I do have 1 daria
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>>172974935
>>172974942
OLD AND BUSTED. MERLIN IS THE NEW OLD HOTNESS.
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>>172974475
Rogues creed costs the same as pepe and front lines isnt as strong as well, well is where its at especially if you get pepe out on t3, t4 onwards usually your followers will be traded into wards if they have them for those sweet pepe faceswats(if they dont they die amazingly fast) and well will just keep making him stronger and stronger especially if you get a t3 pepe and they have no removal, though ive had better success baiting out low cost removal with buffed and stormed low cost followers and then playing pepe and buffing him up and evolving him out of the range of most low cost removal and use him as a finisher.
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>>172968010
turn 10 vs 7 cards ramp dragon while with 3 ward in hand drops a mord instead and complaints about getting destroyed.
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>>172974284
>Storm Ramp has always had really good win rates on stat sites, but since regular Ramp wasn't that good nobody cared.
>Storm ramp has always been good
Speaking as a Dragon main, Storm Ramp has always been bad, though right now it's not so much anymore. It's probably on par with Saha Ramp.
However, the only reason the winrate was over 50% pre-TotG and is so high right now is due to it being inflated by self reported data.
When they beat Ramp Dragon, people report it as a Ramp Dragon loss, not as a Storm Ramp loss, because you'll only know it's Storm Ramp after they've dropped Genesis or Urd+Forte on you, what a lot of the time means you are dead.
It's just an inflated winrate that nobody should take seriously.
Shadowlog should just remove stupid tags that cause nothing but misleading data, such as "Face Sword" and "Aggro Sword", even if a deck could be separated on different tags like in the case of Ramp Dragon.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/xlgdxx.wav
MUH
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such an unfun meta. its like they saw how shit blizzard fucked up hs meta and said 'you are like a baby, watch this'.
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>haven vs haven
>he goes first
>lays down aegis first

WHOA HO THIS IS TRULY SKILLED AND INTERACTIVE GAMEPLAY
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>>172975014
i love this fluid druid too
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>>172974630
Aegis in general is trash
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>>172974996
forte evo + saha bahamut zell?
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New player here, pulled a Zinatra. Safe liquify or naw?
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>>172975102
liquefy desu
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>>172975030
Mean to reply to >>172974424 as well
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>>172974991
but then I didn't
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>>172975052
Literally Seraph 2.0, nothing changed in the mirror.
>just Odin bro
Then just Kaguya bro.
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>>172974475
Frog has to be played before rogues creed or it won't get the +1/1 because it won't have ambush reapplied yet.
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>>172975098
Yeah. It's just hard to deal with ramp minions dropping every turn unless you can pressure beforehand, but good luck doing that when dragon has the most heals in the game now.
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>>172970887
in midrange you want those shadows for breath and hektor.
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>>172975102
one of the worst legendaries in the game
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>tech forbidden ritual because fuck you aggro shadow
>dshift
>control sword with roland because fuck aegis
>dragon
>dragon
>dragon
>fucking MID shadow
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Exact moment I creamed my pants.
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>>172973190
forest
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>>172974636
Even this meme deck requires 3 leggos lol.
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>>172975245
MOM GET THE CAMERA
Get out of my general B3 player.
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>>172973663
Have you played a CCG before in your life? It's hard to call them Jews when many people have manged to have multiple tier decks while being 100% f2p up until now. Most paper CCGs I played during the day cost a LOT more just to have playable decks, nevermind top tier decks for every class. This is the first expansion I had to throw some money in to accelerate things, and even then I just threw in $20 to get daily deal packs for a month.

If they up it to three leggos per class in 100 card expansions, then start bitching about cost. Until then some people will just have to accept you won't be able to make top tier netdecks for every class day 1 anyone without paying a dime.
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>>172975161
>Then just Kaguya bro.
Hope you have an evo left :^)

>>172975242
>Control sword
Literally no one plays that anymore. Dead class.
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>>172975030
I was talking about the statistics themselves though, not in game performance, for the very reasons that you're going on about.
If people are going to cry for nerfs, they shouldn't be using win rates for a deck with 3k games recorded anyways.
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>Dragon vs Dragon is LITERALLY a fucking coin flip on who draws orb cards first

epic
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>>172975242
Now you know why its forbidden
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>>172975245
It's a neat effect and it looks cool, she's just not that great overall.
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What does Aegis say when it comes into play?
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>using the undub

I seriously hope you guys don't do this. The japanese lolis sound like 5 year olds and not deliciously rapable 11 year olds.
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>>172975340
>Hope you have an evo left :^)
>Aegis deck
>Putting enough pressure to force your evos out
Come on now.
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>>172975043
I want to fuck this dog and her sister.
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>>172975302
I think ive finished about 4 games with albert rather than frog.
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>When you throw a game into fucking orbit but the opponent ends up conceding.
I had 5 damage on board and he had 5 HP so instead of using Deathbrand on his ward and hitting face I rammed my Skullcradle into his ward to draw a card.
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>>172975395
"no" is literally chess
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>>172975323
>He has no reading comprehension whatsoever
He's saying this is the noticeable start of Cygames being jews for Shadowverse. Doubling the amount of legendaries for no discernible reason other than greed is not a good thing no matter how you spin it.

I have all T1 decks btw. Also btw tiers aren't set in stone for the first few weeks of a new expac usually.
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>>172974991
>>172975150
>baha in shadow
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>>172973663
I agree that they're throwing way too many legendaries into one pack. However, there are still a ton of decks that require no legendaries from ToG.

Dshift
Seraph haven
Aggro blood
Aggro sword
Daria
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This should not be working as well as it does. I really want to make a functional storm ramp build though because ramp>keep wiping the board until they concede out of frustration gets a bit boring.
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>>172975017
By what turn should the deck win? Where does it's curve end, 7?
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>>172974648
UPDATEEEEE
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>>172975315
>>172975415
AA3, and I just hate frog fuckers so fucking much.
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Is there a Radius browsing here?
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>>172975465
>goblin kang

Nepdeck? If so mind posting a list?
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>>172973110
The double legendaries decision sucks but I can at least see why they did it. In previous sets the ratios were so fucked that you weren't that much more likely to pull a gold that you want than a legendary you want. Now pulling legendaries is actually relatively rare.

Aegis is aids but they probably decided that needed a check against Shadowcraft and the possibility of greedy decks beating dshift due to all the removal-resistant decks flying around now.

Tier 1 metas are always cancer. If you want to have fun you should be playing casual games with friends, and in terms of fun decks introduced I think the expansion was actually pretty good. What this game desperately needs is a lobby system so it can start growing an actual private match subculture, instead of dumping everyone into the shitpool that is matchmaking. Unfortunately a lobby system is probably never going to happen because lolmobile and the game being international.
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>>172975395
>draw all your Ramp
>draw none of your big guys
>lose
Funny how that works.
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Otohime was never meant to be a win condition. She is a punishment. Sword is the board flood craft so it will always be weak to board clears. Otohime was swords comeback card. In RoB people took her out of their decks because of board clears. In Tempest, sword decks will be forced to run her because of even more board clears. Everyone is stuck in the DE mentality where you play her on turn 6 always and try to win on turn 7.
Give sword mains a few more days before they start to find better deck combinations. I can guarantee strong decks coming out that run both Albert and Otohime. Albert as the win condition, and Otohime as anti dragon tech (as strange as it sounds).
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>>172975078
Merlin is what an actual balanced card looks like - great draw and effect, shit stats for cost. Now we get Sibyl with fucking 6/7 evolved with ramp and constant heal on one card for 1 more mana than Merlin and other retarded power creep shit.
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>>172975513
You only need legs for GOOD decks if you will paly Aegis or Dragon
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if skeles are good, does that make vlad good?
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>>172972645
i started once TOG was announced. or maybe a bit later.
saved close to 3k, which isn't much but eh whatever.
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>>172974991
This is why we can't have nice things.
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>AEGIS
>BAHAMUT
>ZEUS

haha ebin right so much fun
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Will i regret not sandbagging when i have only 2 craft with playable decks? It's easy as fuck to rank up but i'm afraid to be stuck with my dailies in A rank and higher (i have like 0 gold and and leggos with forest for exemple).
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>>172975609
She is kinda trick to use but i can win some games with 3 fang,3 DoD and 3 tsubaki against dragon
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>>172975587
Hell no I hate Nepthys
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>>172975702
I really want to know what decks you guys are playing that are having so much trouble with a turn 9 do nothing
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>>172975704
just get good at playing take two
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>>172975609
>GURRRRIIIIIIM.....
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>>172975513
>aggro blood and sword
>seraph

Are we talking from the perspective of D0? Because those are free wins for the top meta decks right now in master rank.
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>>172975454
>ToG hit
>Testing out sword
>Time to drop Tsubaki and cream myself to her serene voice
>takmybladeofresentment :D
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>>172975704
No, you won't regret sandbagging. There is literally no point ranking up.
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>>172975785
>implying turn 9 is do nothing
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>>172975554
most games finish on t5 and 6, It has an arriet added in just incase a game goes past t6 which is getting out of frogs comfort zone, Arriet has ended up winning me quite a few games I thought were unsalvageable.
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>>172975609
I hope she becomes meta again.
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>>172975604
funny how bricking is literally the only complaint daria had last meta too.
i guess its how cygames design their designated tier 1 decks... they only lose to themselves.
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>>172975834
>Dodging the question
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I think the only thing that needs nerfing in Shadow is Howl
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>>172975602
>Aegis is aids but they probably decided that needed a check against Shadowcraft
Aegis doesn't counter shadow any better than seraph though. Aegis is just awful design and hurts game health.

At least it's not really stupid like Anomaly..
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>>172975820
Post the new dub voice, I wanna laugh at you dubcucks. Did they even remove vanish like the jew?
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>>172975919
Howl is already the most honest burn card in the game. Why would you nerf it?
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>>172975451
WARE WA FURE RAREZARU KOUKI
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>>172975915
It's in take two, you cuck
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>>172975768
>squasher
fuck
>hector
fuck
>cerbs
fuuuck

I have no good shadow cards coutside of Nepdecks.
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>>172975919
I'M COMING FOR YOU 5x
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>>172975609
>Otohime
>Anti-dragon tech
>Against the class with the most board clears in the game except maybe Haven

No.
Face it, SV design philosophy has shifted to storm and control out the ass. If you need to build a board with your deck, you auto-lose unless you're shadow and maybe forest.
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>>172975973
>Honest
>4 PP for possible output of 7 storm damage
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>>172975997
its time for you to vial that deck
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>>172975902
Stay on topic, boyo, we're talking about mirrors. How else will you decide a match between two similar decks and similarly skilled players in this game?
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Remember how everyone in this general said Ouroboros is garbage? How'd that work out?
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>>172975936
>anomaly
Jesus fuck, posting rank should be mandatory in these threads. In arena? Sure, but arena has always been an unbalanced shit show. Anomaly doesn't even cut it as a meme in constructed, there's literally no fucking deck that's tier 2 or higher that can't deal with an 8/8 do nothing on 8.
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>>172975997
Hector was probably the best investment of vials I've made.
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Remember guys, Dark Jeanne is bad.
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>>172975997
All you had to do was listen
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Should I replace a card in my forest deck for Crystalia Aerin?
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>>172976115
like every other TCG and CCG does it. by luck of the draw and manascrewing/bricking
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>>172976132
>Reading comprehension
I'm not saying Anomaly is good (I'm not even saying Aegis is good). I'm saying it's garbage game design (for reasons discussed earlier in the thread) and I expect more from MtG pros.
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Anybody has the Yurius picture where he says "kill yourself"?
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>IGN: What would you say are the defining themes of Tempest of the Gods?

>Naoyuki Miyashita: We’re not introducing any new abilities, like we did with Enhance in the last expansion, and up until now we’ve always had one legendary in each class. From Tempest of the Gods each class will have two legendaries with defining or powerful abilities, so we believe this will allow for more diverse deck building, and that’s one of the themes of the pack.

Does this mean every expansion from now on will have 2 legendaries, or is it just a ToG thing? Also, we'll most likely be seeing new mechanics introduced next expansion.
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>>172976125
idfk because Dragon is usually dead on turn 6 vs me.
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>turn5 at 5 hp against shadownigger with ambushed reaper on board
IM SO GLAD DARIA IS DEAD XD ALBERT WAS SO MUCH WORSE TOO LMAO
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>>172975702
>zeus
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>>172976112

But what if it gits gud (or better supporting cards) later on? I'm new to this game and I don't think liquefying is a good idea - I could vial my 3 neps and still wouldn't have enough for 1 new lego...
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>>172976265
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>>172976125
cause it was mistranslated and the return to hand last word was only for the evolved version.
if you have incorrect information you cant make correct assumptions.
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So you guys stopped to buzzing "badly designed"...and using the "garbage design'' to cards that you hate but you don't know how to describe?
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>>172976301
zeus is often just what you need, a storm with bane
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>>172975997
>not having all the shadow decks
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anyone have a dragon deck or suggestions for one revolving around discard/imperial dragoon? I pulled a few a while back and figure I should try and give it ago
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>>172976256
doesn't mtg have a card just like that, except way better? x the untouchable or something.

what's your point?
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Shadow dailies are so easy. Just go in unranked and they concede on turn 1 if you have a one drop.
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>>172975978
>Most dragons aren't running any Zeus

Idiots.
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>>172976318
Lightning blast still exists
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>pulled another ginger

FUCK
I just want actual good legendaries.
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Concede please. 83491
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>>172976342
Thanks anon.
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>>172976404
>What's your point
Scroll up to those Anons talking about game balance.
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>>172976385
Ramp dragon + dragoon as a finisher.

yes you need 50k of vials
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>>172976265
inb4 zombie party
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35531
20 matches mission please
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>>172976462
>literal god card gets made
>nobody uses it
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>He who memes the most will win the most
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>>172976362
jfc i started playing this trash like two weeks ago so my cardpool is limited reeeeeeeee
(I hope they don't make even more legos per craft per expansion, it's going to be shit to catch up)

>>172976156
I will definitely craft him when I get the chance to. I got him in Take 2 and he's pretty disgusting
>>172976480
Rotations when?
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>>172976439
Which is a shame because aggro shadow is actually shit and will be back to it's rightful t2 place in a couple of weeks.
They should call this piece of shit deck shadow "draw cerb and howl by turn 5 or lose" aggro.
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>>172976486
She'll be god tier in the next expansion. My uncle works for Cygames.
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>>172976573
He didn't have one.
Lived for till turn 5 and did like 6 damage with his effect.
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>>172976090
>blocked by ward
>needs an evolve
>needs a resource
>needs board space
>doesn't leave a strong minion for the opponent to deal with like evolved storm does, or any minion at all for that matter
>can't even play followers alongside or after it without a particular combo or sacrificing damage

There's no burn in the game with more drawbacks than Howl.
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My dragon deck that won me like 10 games in a row part 1
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>>172976495

Thank you, anon.
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Sword always wins baby :)
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>>172975813
statistics say otherwise

btw aggro shadow doesnt require leggos from tog, a lot of lists dont use eachtar
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>>172976587
I use it, the bane is extremely useful, it has ward, and storm. It does work when needed where needed.
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>>172975609
>even more board clears
Like fucking what?
Tarnished Grail? Dragonslayer's Price? Jeanne?
Don't make me laugh.

I swear /svg/ doesn't even know what they are complaining about. They just like to whine about random shit.
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>>172976694
WERE GONNA BE RICH
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>>172976785
Like every fucking second card dragon plays.
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>>172976694
part 2
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>>172976587
I use him in my """budget""" ramp deck. It's amazing how many wins I pull out of my ass with him. People here like to give me shit when I link wins w/ him on the board or in hand though.
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Why should i play gawain over floral or jeno? lol
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>>172975609
Will this arrogant queen ever put some shoes on?
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>>172976875
>>172976694
....In arena?
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>>172976736
>Stats meaning anything in the first few days of a new expansion

:o)
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>>172976730
>sword dailies for the past 3 days

Pepe has gave me new hope for this expansion
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>>172976161
Woah. Post dick.
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>>172976961
In ranked. I lost a few but I always ended up winning more then losing with this deck
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>>172976961
Probably D0
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>>172976969
BUT DRAGON MATTER AND HAVE 60% OF WINRATE
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>>172976910
hopefully not
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>>172976883
The problem is that genesis would have had the same outcome there and wouldn't have costed an evo point
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>>172976907
You can finally pull off the forbidden Albert+Urd combo on turn 7-8, previously unachievable to mankind.
I already saw some people play it
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>>172976785
Dragon can play like 15 board clears/aoe damage if they want, 18 if we consider Wrath Drake.
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>>172974630
I think elana aegis is needed to be good enough against shadow to be worth running but then you have no space to try to un-just your matchup vs combo.
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>play csword
>get my ass blasted by dragon, aegis and zombie party
>play albert frog royal
>win against all above mentioned

Daily reminder that gawain and roland are memes and you shouldn't craft those shits.
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>>172976694
There's no way this isn't an auto deck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUQcS4xhhqo

this should have been the trailer for the expansion
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>>172977040
My new-anon everything can win in low ranks.

try to build a better deck making with the meta in mind
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>>172977039
Naw you guys are a bunch of faggot netdeckers who dont know shit about the game.
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>>172976857
>>172977113
You mean the cards they've always had since before the expansion?
Are you going to tell me their new 10pp mana clears are a good counter to Otohime? That fucking Bahamut is a good counter to Otohime? Even if Dragon has better Ramp now, it's just plain wrong to think that ramping to 10 before the opponent can have 7 pp is a common scenario.
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>>172977168
control sword doesn't lose to aegis unless they have amulet removal
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>>172977170
Sad to say but it was an auto deck, I would like to make a new deck though because this one feels alittle too fun
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>Ramp
>Ramp
>Discount a card
>8PP Bahamut
Haha epic very fun I love fighting top tier decks in unranked trying to finish dailies
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>>172968694
dumb forgposter
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How is midrange shadow better than aggro? The deck is utter trash.
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>>172977040
You lose less points than you gain when you win in the early ranks so its really hard to stay there, the only way is up really until A-AA then the real grind begins.
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>>172977280
You mean like bahamut?
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>>172977220
I Totally want to, do you mind giving me some advice though?? if I just look it up it would just be too much for me
>>
giving away free wins

>53938
>>
>buy one pack at a time
>go for 20+ packs without any legendary
Fucking cygames fixing the rates
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>>172977215
>frog
>defining the expac

Not even close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsJsIHMDstA
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>>172977093
Genesis doesn't have Bane or Ward though. If I'm racing someone and drop a Zeus to clear a threat he still has ward and bane which is a bitch to deal with especially if you're burned up your removal. If I drop Genesis for the purpose of clearing a threat, the other guy can ignore him and go face for lethal.
>>
>>172976218
You should play 3 in everything but dedicated roach combo. Maybe cut one in midrange.
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>>172977308
cry more bb
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>>172977390
that counts
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>>172977486
I will
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>>172977250
>it's just plain wrong to think that ramping to 10 before the opponent can have 7 pp is a common scenario.

Oh you poor naive soul.
Don't tell me you haven't met Saha's new best friend yet. What good does Otohime will do to you on turn 7 if you'll just get salamandered right then and there? By the time you set up another one you're already dead.

I've been playing board flood shadow lately and literally flooded the board every single turn since turn 6 and not only did they have an answer each and every turn, they've also came out on top most of the time. Other classes just don't stand a chance, especially Otohimeme.
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>>172977416
Show your legendary and gold cards.

dragon is pretty easy to paly just ramping and dropping fatties in late game.
>>
What could they nerf to tone down Dragon?
>>
wtf is up w/ these dust ratios? 30 commons can't even craft 2 silvers
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>>172977638
my dick
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>>172977250
I'm not the other anon, but dragon can easily ramp into enhanced salamander's before you even think of using otohime, after that it's a piece of cake to wipe anything you play with their other more expensive removal and ramp even more with miko

but if you want to prove me wrong go ahead, in fact I'd rather you did
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>>172976272
Since he explicitly says that legendaries were a "theme" of the expansion, it seems that this should be one time only. Good.
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>>172977225
I'm no netdicker and don't even have Dork Jeanne, just impressed at people actually succeeding with a card that's win-more at best.
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>>172977638
remove sahaquiel
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>>172977735
He didn't say that you stupid fuck.
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>>172977225

But I thought we were haven bros? :(
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>>172977225
>Using "netdecker" as a pejorative
Every time

>>172977336
It's much more resilient while having more or less the same gameplan.
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>>172977853
Explain what he meant then.
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>>172977638
Cards cheated in with Saha lose all abilities for that turn. Means Isafril can't wipe the board and Luci cant heal.
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>>172977905
He meant "pay more rolls if you want all the legos, goy"
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>>172977445
That's not grimnir either.
He's the new Unica/Rin Gon/Gobbu.
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>>172974585
''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''guardian'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
sun
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>>172977679
Its still better than HS
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>>172977443
I pull more legendaries when I do 10 pack at the same time
Anyone else notice this?
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>>172977479
someone told me to play 1 cost cards Along with the Roaches
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>>172977727
>>172977603
I know they can ramp to Salamander. That's not the point of the post. The point is that there is a faggot whining that "there are new board clears that are fucking Sword in the ass and that force them to use Otohime as a comeback card" when there isn't a single new board clear card that particularly targets Sword's board flood. The only new usable board clears are enhanced Lightning Blast and enhanced Grimnir, both 10pp cards.
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>>172978079
Placebo
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>>172977321
>t8

He lost two turns ago.
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>>172977679
Who crafts bronzes and silvers? I bought like 40 packs of ToG and I already have every bronze and most silvers.
>>
Concede pls
70459
>>
>>172978153
>>172978153
Forgot to include:
>Don't tell me you haven't met Saha's new best friend yet
Yes, I forgot about Israfil, but that's the ONLY card, while the anon is acting as if there are multiple.
>>
>>172978153
And israfil.

But I don't see what point he's making either, unless he's suggesting to use otohime as removal bait, so your other, more important cards won't get removed, which won't help anyway.
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>>172975102
>>172975224
>know what would be great? if we turned this legend's evolve into a do nothing
>>
What does an Azazel OTK deck look like?
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>>172977735
"From" as in "From here on", silly. Inflated leggo counts are something we're just going to have to get used to.
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Reminder that cannon is a meme
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>>172978079
It's the other way around for me
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>>172978127
I'm assuming you mean goblin mage decks. Elf child is too god to pass up, you CAN play water faries, but it isn't great.
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>>172978062
>hearthstone
>destroy 160 commons = craft 1 lego
>sverse
>destroy 350 commons = craft 1 lego, decks use up to 3 copies of a lego

at least you get more cards per pack and a higher change of legs but still
>>
>>172978478
So is frog since he gets completely fucked by tier 1 decks and smart tier 2 decks.
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my forest deck
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>>172978478
It's such a ridiculous tempo loss.

turn 5 do nothing

if they had of had given it a fanfare that let it do X amount of damage to an enemy when it came into play, it'd be better.
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>>172977891
>It's much more resilient
I'm not seeing it. All I'm experiencing is being way more prone to bricking with bad draws.
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>>172978568
With more than double the drop rate on legends and golds.
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>>172978568
You get a shitload of silvers too, which is most of your vial income and even golds are much more common.
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>>172978467
I disagree. "From" could also mean "From" in this context means something like what a player might expect from the pack. It doesn't make sense to say that it's a defining theme to the expansion, and then that every future expansion will be like that.
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>>172978587
Needs a lot of work
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What the fuck just happened?
I had a test of strength down and my opponent was able to avoid my aegis and hit face.
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>>172978617
They really need to stop giving amulets inflated costs that make them unplayable.
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>>172978580
>implying there are any tiers yet
>implying frog doesn't cuck dragon
Lmao
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>>172978719
Yeah I understand that, but its won me alot of games aswell, still would like some help though
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I want to beat shadow,dragon and aegis
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>>172978814
If it was one of those Face/Ward only followers like Mastema or Lurching Corpse, that's intended.
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When are we paying respects to Sword?
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>>172978814
I had the opposite the other day, he had an aegis and I had a test of strength and I was forced to attack his Aegis but he was allowed to ignore my creatures. Tried reporting it but the report feature is broken.
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>>172978814
That's literally impossible unless it was a mirror match.
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>>172978587
>Farue
>Entagling Vines
W-What?
>>
>>172977985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPfheCHDoco

Better?
>>
>>172978837
It's not just amulets that have this problem. There are plenty of cards with unique effects that are on way too expensive bodies, like Magisa
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>>172978568

In HS packs only give you 5 cards each. Usually it is just 4 common 1 rare. In SV most of the time you got more than half of the cards that is not bronze.
>>
>>172978587
Really clears my skeletons.
>>
How the fuck are people struggling against frog? Is everyone memeing about losing to him just to get more easy wins?
Shadow,dragon and forest can clear that shit card as soon as it gets played.
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>>172978905
You aren't going to beat ramp or Aegis with that deck. Dragon can get to his win con faster and Aegis eats other control decks alive, that's like the only thing it does consistently.
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>>172978908
everytime someone start to say that sword and forest are dying they come up with some tier 1 bullshit
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>>172978906
Wait, these can go face?

I don't know because I don't let Corpses live and >Mastema
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>>172978587
Crystalia Aerin is stupid good, add some and take out stuff like Elemental Lance and Entagling Vines. If you're playing Gobu I wouldn't run Water Fairy. Replace Farue with either Liza or Fairy Whisperer. Would also invest in some Cynthias and/or Wing Gods if you have the vials.
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>>172978889
In beginner ranks (Anything up to A0) everything works, afterwards you have to start refining

For one you need Ancient Elves, that is without question
Then you can start cutting 1x cards like Vines or Lances
Experiment with how many 1drops you're running, the main strength of roach forest in RoB was the consistency, after gobu nerf they lost that.
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>>172979069
and it's only what, a 30% chance you get him in your early game? lul
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>>172978580
The only craft i consistently lose to is haven, Most decks dont have any answers for a 4 turn rushdown that can put them well below half their health and then a t5-6 6/6+ ambush frog, except haven, for obvious reasons, if they draw more than one scripture or play it into a t4 trib it can cause a tempo loss you ''''usually'''' cant recover from. But nearly every other deck has problems facing a beatdown deck like this.

You would think frog would be an alternative to albert but it actually plays out the other way most times, with albert being the backup incase frog gets removed, that may just be because I prefer to finish people with frog though.
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>>172978913
aegis ignores card effect, so it ignores test of strength
not a bug
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>>172979069

I need to throw my Orthrus as shadow. As forest I can just rush him down. Dragon I have no idea.
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11536 if anyone can be bothered for my private mission.
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>>172979149
ToS specifies attackable follower
As far as Mastema is concerned all she sees is your face and wards, anything else is not 'Attackable'
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>>172975078
Merlin, the greatest mage of all time, powercreeped by a 2pp freshman named Lou

Sad times ahead friends
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>>172979284
Muh dick. I've never noticed how sexy this card was.
>>
Dragon is so bad holy shit why would anyone play garbage craft
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>>172977918
Completely untrue, they just don't trigger fanfares.
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>>172978885
>Thinking frog screws over dragon

You're bad.
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>>172979363
Yes i should vial all the cards of this craft.

DRAGON WILL NEVER BE GOOD
>>
>pascale

safe to vial or what? I only have one copy.
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>>172979365
I think that was a proposed change dude.
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>>172979325
Nice to know, should I ever see a Mastema I'll be sure to murder him.
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>>172979365
Did you even read the post he was responding too?
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>>172979363
I wonder who is behind this post
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>>172979353
It's weird how it's a Forest card.
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>>172979453
Whoops, I'm retarded, ignore me.
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>>172979284
Thanks.
>>
If anyone can, concede?
36949
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>>172979189
The thing about Frog Sword is, without the frog it turns into Aggro Albert real quick and we all know how hard Aggro Albert cucks Dragon and the like
So what's your point exactly?
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>>172979171
Cant get Ancient elfs At all I dont have enough vials for even one
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>>172979438
Doesn't matter since 90% of dragon is neutral.
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>>172979447
nothing is safe to vial
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>>172979069
Shadow only has Orthus, and she has to be played t4, no later
Haven has tribunal
Dragon has ramped aoe
Sword has fuckall
Blood has revelation
Rune isn't being played, no answer in time anyway
Forest has WotF
>>
>>172979263
>>172979572
>Dragonewt fist
>May bounce
>Will of the forest
>Orthrus
>Corpse
>necro assassin
I can't see how that stupid frog can survive more than one turn.
>>
>>172977638
Just fix the game by removing the storm and ramp mechanics.
>>
Gawain should reduce the cost in half at least to be playable
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>>172979572
>what is cyclone blade
>>
>>172979572
>no answer in time anyway
secrets of erasmus
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>>172979572
>Shadow only has Orthus

Have you nigger every played Shadow?
The craft has more cards than those used by the Red Army.

Also Sword has Cyclone, Rune has CC and other shit, etc.
>>
>>172979572
Sword has Cyclone Blade.
Rune has fire Chain.
Forest can also play 2 May in a row on after the turn he was posed.
>>
Has anyone tried the Gawain-only Conscription Commander deck?
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>mfw people forget how to play vs tempo rune
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>>172979429
Frog lethals before turn 7 while Dragon only starts to drop relevant shit at turn 7, stupid Rowencuck
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>>172979447
Dirt is pretty fucking bad in ToG, and she wasn't exactly a staple card before. If you need the vials I'd go for it
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>>172977638
Healing removed from all of the native dragon cards. Healing doesn't belong in their native tool set, they're not Haven.

Reduce any cost reduction cards Dragon has by 1, to a minimum of 1. ie: A card that reduced a cost in your hand by 2, drops to 1. One that reduces by 1 will remain at 1.

Saha can only bring in cards with a base cost of 4 or less.
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>>172979768
Doesn't work if he play Sybil and/or Rahab.
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>mirror Ramp
>brick to shit early
>stick it out to endgame
>win because he starts dropping poorfag shit like Grim Repaer and Fire Lizard
Feels good to not be FotM.
>>
>>172979447
Garbage and always will be no matter what Cygames decides to crank out, unless they outright change her effect. Not even cost cheating would work as a fix.

She's like Eidolon in that you're working way too hard for way too little when you could play an overall more balanced deck and achieve better results.
>>
>>172979676
>thinking this will weaken dragon, a craft with some of the highest amounts of removal
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>>172965124
*unzips katana*
>>
>>172979768
Maybe if Dragon didn't get any good cards like Unica, Grimnir or Rahab.
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Luna just gives up on life.
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>>172979808
pls cry more suggest more balance changes like daria.
>>
>>172979808
>Healing removed from all of the native dragon cards.
Back in the shitter it goes
>>
>>172979708
I'll give you that one
>>172979683
>>172979732
Cyclone blade implies that they're dumb enough to let you have a board
The earliest you can get it is t5 with procced t4 Amelia, not happening. 2nd fastest is t7, and that's only for 4 damage, frog is already out of range
I'll give you fire chain, haven't seen that one in weeks.
>>172979731
CC comes out too late, I'll admit I forgot about Thighs
>>
>>172979892
>ramp dragon somehow not FotM
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>>172979808
>Reduce any cost reduction cards Dragon has by 1, to a minimum of 1. ie: A card that reduced a cost in your hand by 2, drops to 1. One that reduces by 1 will remain at 1
Make it so it can only be reduced by up to half of it's base cost and also implement this for Dshift and i'll take it.
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43509 no concede pls, it's for the 100g achievement.
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>>172977638
Zell only gives Storm to Dragoncraft followers.

Here, fixed.
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>>172980000
FotM bandwagoners can't afford the entire deck if they didn't already have the core.
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>>172979950
Whoops, wrong screenshot.
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>>172979680
>Go first, get Gawain and can't play on c4
>Go second, don't get gawain because could be played on c4
>>
Dammit I dont know what to do with this forest craft deck, I Have not been able to get Ancient elf at all, Crafted Liza though but I literally cant do much else.. same can be said for my other decks which suck
>>
>>172965594
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/mlp/images/4/48/Canterlot_Castle_Luna.png/revision/latest?cb=20110915190107
>>
passing everything
34274
>>
new fucking bread when?
>>
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Why does this general have so much kids and manchildren?
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>>172980176
die you degenerate barneyfag
>>
>>172980142
dont play forest it loses to everything
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>>172980202
I want to make it but need updated links
>>
>8 match winstreak ends to dragon with better curve
every time
>>
>>172979572
It's not that hard for the Sword player to buff the Frog out of removal range for Dragon's midgame aoe, then win before Bahamut/Lightning Blast comes out.
You could run something like Dragonewt Fist to get rid of him before the buffing comes out, but then you're running Fist. It just comes down to what matchups you feel like you need to tech for.
>>
>>172980080
If you want to play more than one deck/craft this expac and didn't open your cards from packs, you'll probably have a difficult time amassing cards regardless of what you played in RoB. Just getting Waterwyrm, Rahab, Grimnir, and a Israfil is steep and that's just the NEW cards for ONE deck. What if you want to try Hector or Aegis too?
>>
So we can all agree Shadow is tier 0 in t2 now right?
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>used dragonewt on pepe

Spicy
>>
>>172976204
>aiela
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>>172980269
>barneyfag
nani?
>>
>>172980068
ouro zell is still 13 damage
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>Frog totally beats dragon guys!
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>>172980448
No while Haven is t1
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>>172980474
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>>172980529
>spend 70k vials on a deck
>feel the need to post that you can beat a deck that can be assembled for <5k
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>>172980518
you can't evolve ouro if you evolve zell
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>fight dirt rune
>on turn 10 they suddenly become a dshift deck
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>>172980426
It's just Dragon being stupidly expensive.
Trying Aegis AND the commies is 5 new legs for 2 decks, which is much more reasonable.

>>172980448
I actually still like Sword better.
>>
>>172979857
Its called cyclone blade and ive cucked loads of dragon who try wards.
>>
new:
>>172980661
>>172980661
>>172980661
>>
>>172980620
>not having high enough apm to evolve 2 followers in the same turn
plebs should leave
>>
>>172980592
But I didn't spend 70k on the deck. I only had to make two copies of Sibyl. You know it helps having played the game since release and not be shit.
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>>172980035
Sorry for being rude.

fucking miss playing with seraph ;
_;
>>
>>172980518
Sure. But it costs 10PP instead of 9 and you can only do it with Ouro, not Isra/Baha/Luci/etc. too, which means lower consistency.

I don't want to kill Storm Ramp, just to nerf it to non-broken status.
>>
>>172980273
I want to complete its story though
>>
>>172980785
Thanks man. It usually lets me win by turn 9 but I didn't draw it until I was dead.
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>>172980748
>i'm not shit
>plays dragon
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>>172980529
I think that should be called
>Dragon finally gets lucky
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>Over 100 posts past the bump limit.
>Nobody makes a new thread
SAD.

NEW THREAD
>>172980905
>>172980905
>>172980905
>>172980905
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>>172981013
Good thing somebody already made one so we won't have to use this thread.
>>
>>172980667
I used to think the same until I had to deal with 3 Rahab in a row followed by 2 Sybil.
dat fucking luck
>>
>>172976593
>rotations

You have to go back >>172978724
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