/hsg/ - Hearthstone General - Fucking kill me already edition

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1st for rape

>>172882596

>>172936424
You can't power creep cards that never saw play to begin with

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Who is ready for the most utility card in the game, and it belongs to Shaman...

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>>172936532

>>172936540
>games going to turn 8
L U L
U
L

>>172936540

>best class legendary
>best elementals
>best heals

what did team 5 mean by this

>>172936612
You can play that on turn 7 or 6 with the elemental that reduces the cost of other ones


turn 5, 4/4 2/3 2/3 taunts
turn 6 Kalimos

>>172936540
>rogues can't have heals, it's not part of their class identity
>priests can't have any decent direct damage spells, it's not part of their class identity
>druids can't have good board clears, it's not part of their class identity

>shaman? their class identity is having everything

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>>172936423

>tfw playing hearthstone on the office wifi

Who /gettingsackedsoon/ here?

Its funny to think, sure we are getting 135 cards with this set, but between nuetrals and class cards, it means each class only gets an additional 55 cards to play with

It sure makes up for us losing 3 sets every Spring

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>>172936975
thank the old gods , I really want my shammy 500 win gold hero . Im like 200 wins away...

>7k gold
>50 pack preorder
>5 packs bonus
>4k dust

fuck you benny this expansion better be worth it

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Daily reminder to not craft anything in the first 2 weeks, shit cards will look good in the first week until everyone goes back to playing pirates and jades

>>172936424
Squirming Tentacle doesn't have the Beast tag
Gnomeregan Infantry doesn't have the Beast tag
Fierce Monkey is a class card
Hot Spring Guardian is a class card
Stonehill Defender doesn't have the Beast tag
Tar Creeper doesn't have the beast tag

Not powercreep

>>172936975
>Druids can't have anything nature-themed (except throwaway animal transformation bullshit), it's part of their class identity?

>>172936540
lmao, shaman dominates yet another expansion.

>best minions
>best heals
>best removal

elemental shaman is going to be insane

>>172937279
the only class beast tag matters in is hunter

Who wants 80g? Post EU id.

>>172936785
it's ok because they lose trogg and totem golem :^)>>172937467

>>172937423
And menagerie themed cards. Also Druid.
Yes Silverback Patriarch is shit though.

>>172937467
Pythagoras#2868

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>>172937401
They have so many viable elementals too, and if they want to go for full meme value they can try to bring them all back to their hand

pally will be viable
r-right

>>172937708
pally has by far the best quest

>>172937708
otk buff paladin yes
no anything else

>>172937708

>still has no way to interact with the board efficiently before 4

i'm going to go ahead and say no

>>172937784
Hemet-Holy Wrath-Molten-Goya Paladin

>>172937693
>forgetting fire fly, glacial shard, al'akir, fire elemental

>>172937708
Anyfin is rotating out so, pally will be completely dead.
Quest is even below dogshit tier.

>>172937926
oh fuck

>>172937708
Galvadon Stealth + Windfury is going to be the new fun and interactive meme. Mark my words. Especially because that deck is going to run damage buffs.

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>play quest-based deck
>the quest card will be at the last 10 cards in the deck.

>>172937926
fuck... it may even be viable

>>172938343
Quest is always in your opening hand unless you mulligan it away.

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>>172938343
>warrior plays tar lord for his quest
>i steal it with cabal shadowpriest

>>172938343
Either a gigantic bait or just plain retarded.
Quests are guaranteed to start in your hand.

There is no reason Tavern Brawl shouldnt be open on Mondays, if they are going to have a day off for it it should only be on Tuesday

And daily login rewards better become permanent

I'm going to miss Elise so much I'm going to craft trailblazer first

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>>172938619
>And daily login rewards better become permanent

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>>172938443
Providing you silence it first.

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>>172938619
>And daily login rewards better become permanent

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Threadly reminder to always squelch and rope pirates and jades. If blizzard won't resolve the issue we will.

>>172938431
wtf i love quests now

>>172938619

but anon, the daily login rewards have always existed, they're the quests

>>172938705
>silencing it and fucking over the effect
Very smart

>January arena rankings get published and kripp is #1
>Proceeds to make smug as fuck video
>February, people start to try a little more. Chakki, who is fairly new to arena takes #1 and Kripp is rank 50 or some shit
>March, Kripp stars complaining worse than usual even though arena was made far better than it's ever been
>Now makes a video complaining arena is too hard and -everyone- is a sniper

Can't wait until he fucks off to Shadowverse.

>>172938991
To be fair he has really shitty luck. Doesn't excuse his bitching though

>>172938949
yea what an idiot. Its better to shadow word pain it

>>172937615
Added, had to step out for a while sorry.

>>172939161
You guys are fucking retards
It is clearly better to Shadow Word: Horror it :^)

>>172938770
Why should I wast my own time roping some retards on the internet?

I have nothing to do and I can't even find this game fun enough to kill time anymore

>>172939245
i forgot about that card. Yea with horror you can even his his tar creeper

>>172939126
Retardverse*

>>172938991
Maybe because there are people that dedicate their arena runs to snipe Kripp?
>he fucks off to Cunnyverse
That I agree

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>everyone saying that elemental shaman will be brain-dead curvestone

It will be curvestone if you draw perfectly, but a lot of time you will have to decide between playing your only elemental on 6 and playing it on 7 for the kalimos effect.

Harder than Dragon Priest I think, because you have to better plan for future turns.

Basically, knowing when to play the elementals if you don't draw well.

It will be snowballing cancer if you draw well though.

>>172938991
Watching Kripp lose in arena is literally one of the last things I keep living for.

>>172939590
When the fuck does he stream in EU hours? I never catch him

>>172939534
>Harder than Dragon Priest I think
The bar is pretty low

>>172939590
>Kripp actually makes good plays
>Get shittons by a coinflip or a topdeck
>Salvages the situation
>More topdecks or more top tier answers
>Goes all in or make a good but very risky play
>Gets countered

It's both sad and hilarious at the same time. You can tell he HATES the game but has to keep playing or lose 75% of his viewers.

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>queue into Priest
>keep quest, mulligan for extremely greedy cards

>queue into Warrior
>*sweats thinking it's pirate warrior*
>mulligan away quest, keep any low cost anti-aggro stuff you can
>turn 1
>warrior plays quest
>"heh, greetings"

How is this fair?

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SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>172939856
He doesn't care for his viewers, he's all about the money, that's why he uploads 5 times a week with pretty unnecessary/boring videos, if pedoverse is ever more popular than Hearthstone then you'll see him switch faster than you can say "concede" .

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>Garrison Commander in wild quest warrior

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>>172940315
>wild

>>172939738
you can watch concentrated salt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivEOMWkP474

>>172940315
Just play Beardo

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>>172940315
>Vs. Reno deathrattle quest priest with majordomo

no, that isn't sulfuras in my pocket

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>>172940391
>he doesn't play the superior mode

>>172938770
Do I get bonus points for roping and winning against them?

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>mfw playing shadowverse and HS at the same time

Playing jade druid has never felt better

>3 days before new expansion
>thread is dead

thijs stream is unironically fun

>>172936540
>comparing Kalimos to Alexstrasza
lmao

>>172938770
Sure, i will rope a bot for half an hour and lose in the end.

adapt is the only mechanic that outright failed before it even entered the game. Every adapt card except the lock pterodactyl is unplayable

>>172941131
>You are at 1 hp
>heal yourself up to 13

>You are at 18 hp
>heal yourself up to 30

Kalimos is better than Alex defensively

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>>172937574
>Also Druid
Druid's an Innervate one trick pony.

>>172941159
My bot ropes automatically against warriors.

>>172939856
What annoys me the most watching Kripp is he thinks he's the best player of all time and only he can make educated plays. Nobody is allowed to play around secrets for example or he'll call them snipers as the excuse for his loss.

Just look at his recent video where he's made the decision to quit arena until the expansion where lower skilled players flood back in and he can farm noobs. He doesn't like being challenged because it damages his ego and image.

>>172938619
>And daily login rewards better become permanent
This one thing could literally save the game. All other digital CCGs I know of have them.

Which is precisely why Blizzard jews will let the game implode and die first.

>>172941374
>Nobody is allowed to play around secrets for example or he'll call them snipers as the excuse for his loss.

Lately he's going one step further and calls everyone with a better-than-average deck a sniper who saved their best deck ever just to beat him.

>>172941506
Preorder un'gorro you entitled faggot

>>172941192
Inspire?

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>>172941506
>>172941591
>Preorder un'gorro you entitled faggot
Fuck you the game is free to play!
Eating and having shelter and going to Hawaii is not! And flying your boy toy to America costs a lot, how else is Zeriyah supposed to get any attention or affection?

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>tfw too intelligent for standard arena

>>172941093
We've seen all the cards and discussed them plenty

Now we're just waiting to see what the reality will be

Finja is going to be oppressive with how good he will be in ungoro, won't he?

>>172942187
>>172942187
>Now we're just waiting to see what the reality will be
We already know what it will be, Hearthstone will get worse, doesnt matter what decks change or get stronger

>>172942240
>finja
>pulls warleader x2 + Bluegill x2
>Play adapt ebast
>give murlocs windfury
>finja pulls other warleader or bluegills

just got to find out which deck does it best

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>>172942187
>>172942262


So just like a week of New decks then back to broken as shit pirates and jades.

>>172942240
???? None of the new murlocs go in a finja deck. The finja package remains unchanged.

>Play casual with a shitty meme deck to finish a quest
>Pirate Warriors
>In fucking casual

I fucking hate this game and the people who play it.

>>172940394
I liked when that channel uploaded full runs much more

>>172942358
Basically, yeah. I mean, the pirate decks and jade decks will probably be slightly modified with new cards from the expansion to replace the cards they lost from the rotation. But mostly it'll just be back to the old Pirate Warrior and Jade Druid grind.

>>172941269
but Alex is rarely included in decks for her heal, but to combo it with burn

which is why putting her under the healing effect of Kalimos is reductive and kinda dumb

>>172941893
saved

>>172942387
Gentle megasaur mostly

>>172942520
Pirate won't be as good. Look at all the new shit with taunt + nu ooze.

Jade will still be good but at least they lost Brann.

>>172942395
try to make a deck that completely counters pirate warrior and just concede to everything else, it's very therapeutic.
bonus points if you bm them and make them add you after the game to flame you.

>>172942423
this channel was uploading them but Krip (or youtube automatically) started taking them down month ago

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Why is there so much Reno lately kill me

>>172942545
Kalimos is a control card that works in Aggro and Elemental decks alike

You really think having a 6-8 mana heal or boardclear or board fill is bad? The worst one of the 4 choices is just dealing 6 to face, but that can win games too combined with Fire Elementals, and the Blazecaller

those 5 elementals are 22 damage + 6/5 x 2, 6/6 x2 + 7/7

>>172941591
Never. Not ever. Fix Druid. Then MAYBE I'll be a hero or something. MAYBE.

>>172942801
*buy a hero

>>172942780
I don't think it's bad, Kalimos is a great card

I think comparing "heal 12" with "set a player's health to 15" is laughable and totally misrepresents what Alexstrasza does

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This is going to be fun to play against, especially when they cost 1-2 mana less

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>me in charge of posting in the right thread
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScZmgfFu50QjMeMff4-xxpR0WW1S7AxiZ_loDJg6DAJHPoICQ/viewform?usp=sf_link
Un'Goro prediction poll, fill it out.

List of cards in reversed order as they appear on the poll: http://www.hearthpwn.com/cards?filter-premium=1&filter-set=108&filter-unreleased=1&display=3

what decks will you craft on day 1?

>get the play 75 murloc quest
>just play murlocs dont play around board clears
>people bm you

why are people retarded?

>>172943308
Since I'm f2p I'll be waiting till the meta settles.

>>172943308
None because I'm not retarded

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There is no reason we shouldnt have 9 decks slots for each class in Hearthstone

>>172943529
this is the worst uml ive ever seen

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>>172943308
Aggro cunny

oh wait it barely used any new cards lmfao

>>172943308

I'm gonna craft the warrior quest since that deck won't require any new cards besides the quest itself. Didn't come up with a list yet though, probably should.

>>172943529
Sorry, I can barely wrap my head around 18 decks.

>>172943529
this would confuse new players

>>172943308
Za warudo mage

>>172943529
The technology isn't there yet

>>172943308
elemental shaman and freeze mage baybee

Is mage the weakest now? It seems to get shit on by everything.

>To be able to complete their Quest within a reasonable time-frame, a Hunter would have to be able to play 1-Drops in sets of two or three every turn consistently to get the Marsh Queen out by turn 5
>And also trade them to not die because he's playing fucking 1-drops on turn 4
>Going first, you have 3 cards cause Quest takes up an opener slot
>And you get 1 card per turn, if you play Quest turn 1, you'll have 4 cards to work with turn 2 and you outright need to play 2 1-drops to get it done
>Turn 3, if you played 2 1-drops, you'll have 3 cards
>You need 2-3 1-drops this turn as well
>And 3-2 1-drops turn 4, but you'll always be 1 card short unless you get card draw from one of your 1-drops and EVERY card in hand is a 1-drop
Gotta love when game in HS are decided by turn 4 massively limiting viability of decks.

>>172943827
Freeze mage is effectively dead without ice lance, emperor or torches

nothing that has come out can replace them

>>172943641
This has always been a horrid argument in any game because the things that "new players will be confused by" is always bullshit because they're not difficult to figure out and the things that new players ARE actually confused by - this tavern brawl, for example - are never explained well enough for people to comprehend. This is like in MTG how multi-colored cards weren't in the core sets because "new players would find them confusing". I mean come the fuck on.

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>Please don't dust wild cards
Y-you can play in wild tournaments with people like trump and pavel!

They sure are desperate

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>>172943930
this shit with abusive is going to be the thing that may just break the hunter quest

>>172944005
he is memeing you friend

>>172944005
You have to be for real retarded not to get at least the jist of this tavern brawl.

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>>172944005

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>>172944067
>same deck for the next 20 years

What did he mean by this?

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>>172943808
My man

>>172943958
EXCEPT

>>172941893
>too

>>172944405
>Living long enough to actually play this finish quest then play the reward

Hey whatever amigo

>>172944095
>>172943930
you could concievably play 9 1 drops by turn 4 if you plat double runic egg by turn 3 and abusive sergeant by turn 4 to kill the runic eggs

then turn 5 play the queen of the marsh, after drawing 10 cards from your deck

then your deck would now be 20 cards + 15 raptors

>>172944405
that doesnt work in freeze mage, what you are making is a combo/stall mage that is entirely dependent on getting playable random spells

>>172943308
i already have a discardlock so i will try it, i always liked shadow priest and i think that the beardo i just got from a pack may help me with it

>>172943308
Egg Druid

>>172944119
Judging by any co-op brawl, that's the average HS player.

*preorders*
have you already done your part to keep hearthstone great?

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>>172944890

>>172945279
yes :D

>>172944581
>>172944658
>Turn 1 Quest
>Turn 2 Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph into Glyph
>????
>Profit!

Granted it will never almost happen but I wanna believe, amis.

>>172943624
I had the usual banner aggro and the more legendary heavy mid-range version after dusting all my shit for it when SV got released to steam. If I went back now, how fucked would I be? I only got to rank AAA0 or AAA1 I believe before getting bored

>>172945627
Aggro sword will still get you wins but it's really carried by three copies of a RoB legendary. Depends on your full collection and what you wanted to play. Aggro Shadow is pretty nuts right now.

So what's stopping me from crafting golden rag, getting the full disenchant value in 4 days and hen disenchanting it again for an extra free legendary worth of dust?

>>172945850
Your autism?

>>172945850
You probably have a block in your thought process that leads you to do retarded shit?

>>172945850
Nothing, as long as you dont have normal rag already

craft all the golden versions of cards you dont have any of

craft all the golden commons, since they give you more dust than it costs to craft non golden versions

>>172945850
Nothing and that's what everyone else with spare dust is doing

I even spent it on golden commons for the extra 50 for no downside

>>172946017
>I even spent it on golden commons for the extra 50 for no downside
I think its an extra 60 dust right?

>>172945561
Just getting one free gliph or starting with coin will make huge difference desu.

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what are some fun control decks to play in wild
card pool wise i have literally everything except for y'shaarj for renounce

>>172945984
>Nothing, as long as you dont have normal rag already
My engrish is fucking up. What do you mean exactly?

>Check mails
>Finally Gwent beta key
Should I

>>172946108
gliphing into cabalist tome is pretty nuts

gives you an immediate turn 3 play, which then gives you mutliple plays over the next 3 turns

>>172945850
>Disenchanting the same card twice
Sure thing bud

>>172946127
If you have a normal Azure Drake or Legendary you get +100 or +1600 free dust

That is the same value you get for dusting a golden legendary or rare

So, you craft Golden Legendary -3200 dust
It rotates out and you get +3200 dust
net gain of 0
You dust the golden legendary for +1600 dust
net gain of 1600 dust

If you already have regular Rag or Sylv you get +1600 dust

You dig?

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Rate my quest rogue deck

>>172946342
no nigger i dont dig

so even if i have a normal rag should i craft the golden rag?

>>172946127

>>172945984 >>172946342
Doesn't know what they're talking about

If you have the dust for a golden legendary do it. You get the 3200 dust back + 1600 for disenchanting it plus you get to keep the normal version or dust that for an addition 400 dust.

If you just do the regular you get 1600 from it + 400 if you choose to disenchant it later.

>>172946439
>so even if i have a normal rag should i craft the golden rag?
If you plan on dusting golden rag, no. It does nothing

If you want Golden Rag over regular Rag you gain +400 dust from dusting the regular version

If you want both you you gain 0 dust but have both

if you want 1600 dust you do nothing

Those are your three choices.
1. Regular Rag + 1600 dust
2. Golden Rag + 400 dust
3. Regular and Golden Rag + 0 dust

>>172945561
Thing is, with the new spell generators that got put in to mage to support this quest they have more than enough to efficiently complete it quite reliably.

You got Glyph. Babbling Book and Shimmering Tempest are the good ones. There's also Mana Bind and Steam Surger, Mana Bind will probably never see play due to being too unreliable and easy to play around but I could see Steam Surger in a Mage Quest deck. It's a decent turn 4 play or turn 3 coin play after Shimmering Tempest. Sure, the spell it gives you is trash, but it's also only 2 mana and can remove a 2 drop so it's easy enough to play as a freebie when you have the spare mana.

Worth noting, this deck could include both Arcane and Molten Giants. You play it as Freeze Mage, set up an Ice Block and stall the opponent while you finish your quest and gather your pieces.

Then, when you're on 1 health after Ice Block and have Time Warp, 2 Molten Giants and 2 Arcane Giants in your hand. You play Time Warp, Arcane Giant, Arcane Giant, Molten Giant, Molten Giant, Turn End. Then you attack on your second turn for 32 damage.

>>172946439
i hope you're trolling

it literally doesn't make a difference as long as you DE the golden rag

>>172946573
>If you have the dust for a golden legendary do it. You get the 3200 dust back + 1600 for disenchanting it plus you get to keep the normal version or dust that for an addition 400 dust.
>If you just do the regular you get 1600 from it + 400 if you choose to disenchant it later.


Or you just disenchant the regular rag for 400 dust + the 1600 you are given

either way you get 2000 dust

are you stupid or just trolling?

>>172946417
Remove Tea, shadowcaster, pod, Shaku, Moroes, Cleef. Add double sprint, Thalnos, Patches, double boar, double deckhand, double bluegill.

>>172944095
>he is memeing you friend
Honestly, I couldn't tell because I've gotten so used to morons like Wizards of the Coast using this as an excuse for retarded decisions.

>>172944119
IQ (highest to lowest)
- Humans
- Retarded Humans
- Fish
- Amoebae
- Dead Fish
- Amoeba waste products
- The element Carbon
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- HS players

>>172946769
Did you just tell him to basically

>Just play Pirate Rogue you faggot

>>172946196
What keeps you from doing it? No harm in trying it out.

>>172946573
This retard has no fucking idea what he's talking about.
Nothing new for /hsg/.

>>172946573
but you used 3200 to craft it so when you get 3200 you are back at 0. if you decide to DE it you get 1600 dust but you would have gotten it anyway from your regular leggo.

RIP reno
how will control decks beat aggro

>>172946587
How about commons?

>>172946417
Shaku and Thistle Tea are unnecessary. Replace with Patches and something else.

Shadowcaster is also useless. What are you going to shadow cast, your 1 mana minions or your 2 mana minions? Replace with 2 Ferryman.

>>172946838
Not really? Quest rogue deck is qute different from pirate Rogue, it's just wincondition after completing quest is killing opponent with charging 5/5 creatures, not wasting time. Thistle tea and pod don't actually help with finishing quest since it have big chance to miss, instead of drawing copies of cards you want to dig deeper into the deck to get brewmasters, steps and in his case elementals. Shaku is only good if you run coldblood and again doesn't help in finishing quest, you don't have time to play cleef and moroes is useless before completion and don't have charge.

>>172937245
Do hearthstone players really not get enough resources through F2P to do what they want? Most other card games are very liberal about giving you resources.
You, a group, who have been following the game for a while I'd imagine this advice to be unneeded.

>>172947095
craft all golden commons, you gain 50 for disenchanting them, and normals are only worth 40, so you gain +10 dust each, that is 60 free dust

>>172947105
you can shadowcaster Edwin or Moroes

>>172947242
>blizzard granting free shit
It's crafting time, bitches

>>172947027
taunt warrior

>>172947027
being less greedy

>>172947027
They don't
A glorious aggro/jade/otk meta awaits us

>>172947484
Shadowcaster costs too much, you don't want to spend 5 mana on drawing 1 card or making 1 copy for quest. Also no charge.

So apparently the chance that you get both stealth and windfury on Galvadon is about 65%.
What's stopping me from making a deck with only tokens, buffs, heals and hard removal and/or silence and getting 65% winrate?
The only hard counters would be Twisting Nether, Brawl, Devolve and Deadly Shot. Assuming my opponent would not waste them on my buff sponges while I'm setting up to end the quest.

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>>172936072
>mfw reading r*ddit shitters think The Marsh Queen is good and King Dred is bad.
I hope you don't think The Marsh Queen is playable in any form.

I don't see the mage quest being all that good

I mean you have to spend half your mana just to get the turn
This would be pretty strong with minions but mage doesn't play big minions except alex but she's 9 mama

What can you really do? If you're looking to combo with spells it's basically a 15 mana turn, something already doable with Thaurissan (and much better in fact) and something Druid and rogue can do easily. If you want to play minions then the best you can do is a 5 mana minion then 10 mana + minion damage

I guess the idea is alex then time warp next turn but it still seems like a bad freeze mage to me

>>172947727
you need triple attack, windfury and stealth to actually kill your opponent, that will not happen. Also you will just brick in many games by not drawing enough buffs, not drawing murlock or just dying to aggro. Also loses to taunt.

>>172947754
Carnassa has perfect curve with Hemet jungle hunter if you complete your quest turn 4.

>>172947027
Tar elementals

>>172936424
Cards were once shit!
So they must remain forever shit!
NO NEW CARDS ALLOWED!

Gonna be honest, longtime Hearthstone player here. I just think it's time to move on... Blizzard clearly doesn't care about us as players, they're becoming increasingly jewish.

Think I will move on to Shadowverse, that game seems to have a bright future

>>172947840
I hope you quoting reddit because obvious combo is arcane giants time warp and slightly less obvious combo is double apprentice molten reflections time warp antonidas reflections infinite fireballs.

>>172947840
0 mana 8/8 sounds pretty big to me.

>>172947840
You get molten or arcane giants to 0-2 mana to play with the quest

Then the following turn your alex them to 15 and hit with 2 giants for 16

Arcane giants will be the easiest to work with because ofhow many spells you'll play

>>172947840
You can play 4*sorc apprentice and then both arcane intellect to get tony before you play time warp

>>172947862
>you need triple attack to actually kill your opponent
Not if I'm running Blessing of Might, Blessed Champion, Blessing of Kings, and the new Adapt Card.
Of course such a deck would require a shitload of draw though. Divine Favor is still standard.

>>172947939
>Cards were once shit!
>So they must remain forever shit!
But anon, that is literally what they are doing...

instead of buffing booty bay guard they made evil heckler, so now we have an additional bad card, booty bay guard is still trash, and we lose out on having a new interesting card, because evil heckler is taking a spot

you think that is ok? you are happy about that?

>>172947939
They could make silverback patriarch stronger to match. Or remove it. Removing cards solves power creep, as weird as it sounds.

>>172947840
emperor is rotating

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>Have to kill renofags before reno and their greedy value decks overrun you
>Have to kill questfags before they finish the quest and outvalue you

>>172948073
>Booty bay will rotate and any other power creeps they do
>We will be left with the shit one

They should really buff the cards that they want to stay in standard (basic and classic)

>>172947840
I think its overrated as well. Casino mage has never been really good coz its inconsistent as fuck with the spells you get.
only saving grace for the time warp really is if you get some big guys down before you play it, but it just seems like druid has way better chance of pulling off the otk combo. Aviana for barnabus and you're set.

the mage quest comes completely down to RNG

you are forced to cast 6 random spells, if those random spells you get are good on curve and effect the board state the game will be in your favor, otherwise it isnt

if you keep getting flamestrikes, pyroblasts, bad secrets and shatters you are fucked because you will be dead long before turn 7+

>>172948179
But then no one would have to buy the new expansions.

>>172948073
Evil Heckler was fantastic show because people cried "power creep! power creep!" but it did not matter at all because nobody still played heckler

Cards do not have feelings, there is no reason to care if a card is weak and stays weak since you are not forced to play it.

>>172948085
There is no reason to remove cards. You can ignore it.

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>Mind vision into quest reward
I can't wait

>>172947881
>if you complete your quest turn 4
Do you really think you can complete your quest by turn 4 ?

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>>172947027
Just run golakka crawler

>>172948327
>he doesnt mind team5 diluting the card pool with unplayable trash in new sets

then you are a cuck, because you the customer are the one getting fucked by this

>>172948464
You get all your commons in like 20 packs anyway.
If you care about "diluting", cry about shit legendaries rather, not some random commons.

>>172947242
if i dont even have the commons should i craft them and the goldens? dumb question i know

>>172948631
you can craft them at anytime, just make sure you have the goldens before they rotate

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>f2p
>only 1000 dust
>want to keep all wild cards
>also want to rig blizzard by crafting hall of fame legos
What do I do? Is it possible that I'll regret that I dusted my wild collection one day?

Do you have recent problems with the chapta too? It loads way too slow.

>all these people defending the mage quest
>Bro just buy karazhan so can can have arranged Giants
>Bro you totally will be able to cast spells before turn 6 and not be facially raped
>Bro the game will be different if won't all be made and pirates

You people are fucking retarded. Mage is the shittiest hero again with no chance of actually completing the quest.

>>172948725
>chapta

>>172948327
>no reason to remove cards
That's very naive anon. You realise that if the card is available through reward or as the standard set you have one less card when it's not removed. If it is removed the economy of the game is different. Devs would have to provide you a different card, or we have a different complaint. The hyperbole of that complaint is that you always start with cards that don't fill any niche. No keywords on the cards. They're balanced in stats though. At that point you're disadvantaged because you don't have the options other players have. They need to fix that. If the card was left in the game you'd point and say that they can use that. Despite it being weak. It's politics anon.

>>172948737
>. Mage is the shittiest hero again
warlock exists and is a strong contender for worst class after rotation

>>172948337
>mind vision mage quest
>"t-there is no way a priest could play 6 cards that weren't in the deck at the start of the game"

>>172948828
>warlock
>worst class

Never ever anon, not as long as life tap exists.

>>172948826
Irrelevant since they are not printing new cards to classic set anyway.

>>172948819
>not playing around google's word algorithm
Thanks for snitching me to the NSA

>>172948905
zoo is worse than it has ever been and control warlock is almost impossible since there are no heals

discard lock is a absolute mess right now

>>172948831
>not saving 2 mind visions for when your oponent gets the quest reward to have a 20 mana turn

>>172948927
I guess it went way over your head.
That's fine anon.

>all these shieldbearers thinking you MUST complete the quest by turn 5/6 or it's not worth playing
Loving every laugh.

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>>172948998
Discardlock is a viable deck right NOW and Clutchmother is insane

it's gonna be t1, screencap this

>>172949285
You actually retarded or merely pretending?

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If you decide to dust your wild collections, even though I'd advise against it, don't dust common cards and only terrible rares.

The tiny dust gains are not worth it.

>>172949287
I don't care how good the deck will be, I just can't handle clutchmother dodging every fucking discard like a cheeky fucking piece of shit
FUCK I hate this card already

>>172948584
I dream of a Hearthstone where every card can be considered as a viable solution for a given deck. If a card is a given category is always preferred to another, then the two cards should be rebalanced so that they are both viable depending on your strategy.
To give you a very specific example, why isn't Booty Bay Bodyguard a 5/5 taunt? Would it really break the meta? Absolutely not. It wouldn't be competitive in the slightest. But then budget decks could still maybe play it if they were in desperate need of mid game taunts.
What if Booty Bay Bodyguard was a 5/6 taunt? Now we're talking. It would be strictly better than Pit Fighter, but Pit Fighter isn't played either. Make Pit Fighter a 5/7, or hell, a 6/7. Would a 5 mana 6/7 vanilla minion be played? Probably not. 4 mana 7/7 would be a better option for Shamans, but for all other classes that wanted a solid mid-range vanilla minion, it could be viable.
I'm sure I could propose a whole lot of buffs like this, even if it's only small stat buffs without additional flashy effects. That would greatly increase card variety and give new players a better fighting chance. Also an opportunity for Blizzard to show off all the graphic and sound design that went into the never-played cards.
Why can't Ironforge Rifleman be a 3/2 or even a 3/3? Why can't War Golem be an 8/8? Why can't Silverback Patriarch be a 1/6? Why can't Mogushan Warden be a 2/7? Why can't Snapjaw Turtle be a 3/6? None of these changes would make them competitive. But they sure would make those cards less shit for budget decks.

i can craft the golden cards that are getting hall of famed and then disenchant them afterwards for profit right? i was under the impression that you wouldn't gain anything from crafting goldens when you already have the regular one.

>>172949658

I agree with all those changes but blizzard doesn't want to buff cards, and they LIKE you having to buy shittons of packs to be competitive/the pay2win aspect of hearthstone. It will never change.

>>172948737

Well good, it should be the most difficult to complete because it is an instant win.

>>172949771
Crafting a golden card buys you the option to decide if you want the golden card at a later time.

The commons net a profit.

>>172949771

Don't craft golden cards if you already have them, unless you want to keep it.

>>172949904
yeah i redid the math. i knew you wouldn't gain anything from it but for some reason i though i was wrong about it just now.

>>172949834
It's almost impossible. You have to live long enough to play it then it's down to rng if you even get the spells for it then you have to have the perfect hand to just insta win. Hell it is impossible.

>>172949658
You can alienate your playerbase by changing cards too many times too often
There have been card games that tried it and suffered for it

Why wouldn't they just rotate one set at a time out? Why rotate out 3 and add 1? Thijs seems stupid.

>>172946126
Anyfin!

>>172949820
As I said it wouldn't make those card competitive. No deck has space for a 5 mana 6/7 vanilla minion with no tag.
It would only help new players and give them a chance to win maybe 40% of their games in the rank 15 tiers if they play smart.
If they want to go competitive, they still have to buy specific meta cards and cards that fit a given archetype.

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> Un'goro release April 6th
> Check battle.net
> "The journey starts April 7th!"

(EU)

>>172950123
>ecuck

>really excited for Buff/Galvadon Pally.
>flash back to beginning of MSoG.
>really excited for hand Buff Pally.

Why must all of my deck waifus turn out to be so disappointing?

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post your favorite Ungoro card

>>172948310
good they will have to start making viable cards then

nobody buys expansions for all the filler shit nobody touches outside arena when they really have to

>>172949553
I would've quit this game already if I had dusted my wild collection. It's a bad idea unless you're a complete newfag and will never have a wild collection.

predictions
>t1
ele shaman, zoo, pirate warrior
>t2
midrange hunter, water rogue, jade druid
>fun tier
quest druid

>>172950286
When the cards rotate out this expansion ,can I still craft Brann/Reno , etc even if I don't have the adventure?

>>172950348
>playing minions with 5 attack
>fun

>>172950385
yes

>>172950385
Yep

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>>172950286
Even if you're a newfag it's not a good idea. You gain a tiny amount of dust while destroying your collection. The odds are very high that wild will be easier to play fun stuff (at low ranks) in wild. Also it will give you a decent set of cards to work with instead of spreading 60 packs over 4 months during a new set.

You could play mech mage in wild right now and that deck is almost completely commons.

>>172950385
If you can buy the first LOE wing with gold. It enables you to buy the rest with gold forever, which is 3500g (35 packs) for like 4 good legendaries and a ton of good cards. But yes you could craft them.

>>172949658
They want each season to require lots of P2W. To do that, they will just power creep the base set each rotation. They need to eat and have shelter anon.

>>172950385
You can always craft all the cards but you can't buy adventures once they rotate out. I can't buy Nax, but could craft all the cards individually for example.

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>it's another jade druid
>you're winning with board control
>that nigga's on 3 health
>he gets a bullshit discover
>wins game

>>172950385
Just buy the adventure
700 gold for reno and brann is much cheaper than getting 1600 dust, specially taking into account 700 gold just buys you slighty more than 280 dust, asuming you don't want to keep any cards

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Goons deck were garbage because either they're already too big to be impacted by the buffs (fight promoter) or they only cycle themselves without doing anything else (that dumb 1/2 deathrattle walrus). Why not a balance of both? this is the mechanic that seemed the easiest to balance.

>>172950938
That card wouldn't make that deck playable

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Fuck off pirate

>>172951175
Shammy.

how do I counter pirate warriors

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>Shielbearers will keep Lakkari Sacrifice and play it turn 1

>>172951185
Who won?

>>172951297
You can't. You have to become a pirate warrior player too.

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>>172949616
This tbqh family

>>172951185
> This cabalist's tome

>>172951089
you are wrong for the simple reason that if people can consistently counter jade golems at least until they become 8/8+s, they will sure as fuck counter your 5/5 divine shield.

You either run out of steam or get fucked by tempo (people could summon brann in your face and unless you had the weapon you had no quick way of removing him)

But we can't give paladin Destruction so.

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Quick post your favorite non-legendary golden card that you own.

>>172951336
>will keep

so do you guys actually build homebrew decks or just shitpost

>>172951297
Draw Reno

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>>172950348
>no elemental mage

V2 inc

>>172951483
You should have seen the last expansion release, 99% of /hsg/ was crying and bitching "What do you MEAN I have to build my own decks? I wish the streamers would hurry up and solve the meta so I know what decks to play. See you in a week when I can actually look up good decks and everyone isn't doing random shit."

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>>172936072
Something small to look forward to I guess:

the Patch will drop tomorrow, so you can read all the flavortext and all the new other stuff (brawls, quests, etc.) will be datamined

>>172951483
if i had all the cards i'd probably make some bad decks but i don't have anything fun.

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>>172951336
>shieldbearers will run Lakkari Sacrifice

>>172950814
Will they nerf Jades? I thought they would with the amount of hate, but after looking at the gigantic power creep expansion, I think they just want to see new cards only for the new season.

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Remember when Shaman was the worst class for the first 2 years or so of Hearthstone

my how times have changed

>>172951740
Actually , how good is that deck?

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>>172951462
It makes non-legendaries sometimes if that counts.

>>172951767
thank you gaytripfag

>>172951483
If you look at older threads you will notice what all disuccions of posted decks die in 1-2 answers. I only care about testing 1 deck in Un'Goro and I already know how I want to build it.

March was the first season I didn't play enough hearthstone to get a cardback

I think I'm finally free from this game

>>172951786
Hunter was the best deck for half a year (Naxx) and it was in the running for the best deck for several months before and after that. Then later Paladin was by far the best deck. Neither are seen today.

>>172951782
Blizzard likes Jades because they force the meta to speed up which is good for sales and because Jade Druid's winrate isn't even that good.

>>172951297
28 taunts and bolster.

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>>172951759
>"What do you MEAN I have to build my own decks?"

>>172950814
>Jade Behemoth
>Ancient of War
>Feral Rage x2

yup fuck that shit

so what's supposed to beat pirates now that you can't heal to full turn 6

the only other deck I found was mildly consistent against them was dragon priest with its early game minions and playing potentially 4 twilight guardians

>>172951786
>the first 2 years

Did you actually play then? Midrange shaman dominated the first year of HS and shaman bots going all the way up to legend flooded the ladder.

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>>172951776
>shieldbearers think Lakkari Sacrifice is bad and will complain about discard warlock in a month

>>172952030
T A U N T
A
U
N
T

>>172938991
Kripp is right tho he has a lot of snipers, I make it my mission to play arena to snipe him cause the salt he provides is enough to keep black people blood pressure high

Lads, how bad priest is going to be? I mean , quest priest it's pretty fucking bad because of the shitty deathrattle cards.

>>172952053
I miss those times. Playing against bots is basically the same as playing against humans since you don't interact with the human in any way, plus the bots never rope or emote you.

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>>172952059
>shieldbearers think discardlock needs Lakkari Sacrifice

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>>172951875
>I didn't play enough hearthstone to get a cardback

nigga, you only need rank 20

>>172951483
I've never netdecked. But you figure out the meta just from playing against it all the time. Countering the meta is fun as shit if it's possible. It's usually not.

>>172951089
>>172950938
You're both wrong, hand buff decks are too slow.
Why would you lose tempo to gain tempo later on, when you could just gain tempo on curve like dragon priest and PW

>>172952224
Couldn't fap to Tanabe Kyou enough times if I tried

>>172952059
Lakkari Sac is bad though. Discard warlock may be really good without it.

What two decks would you like to see against each other with their respective rotations (ban lists) in place?

I think Secret Paladin vs Jade Shaman would have been interesting. Certainly more than this goon shit.

How about Lightbomb/Velen's Chosen Priest vs Jade Druid, would it stand a chance if played correctly?

>flame jugglers ruins turn by hitting the 25% shot
>top deck call of the wild
Feelsgoodman

>>172952030
Anything that can stabilize and out value them will have a solid 55+% winrate. Elemental Shaman is probably going to be the only deck that stands a chance.

>>172944067
>for people who want to play the same deck for 20 years

so, rogues since the only deck you've ever fucking given them is miracle?

Whooo's the man who's lots of fun?
Professor George Herbert Doyle the Fourth~

>>172952224
At least I won't feel bad about discarding the quest card.

>>172946635
You could also use Alexstraza to set your opponent's life to 15 the turn after you Warp, then you only need 2 of the 4 Giants to kill.

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>>172951462
does anyone know where the golden versions of these are?

I remember them looking super sexy on stream.

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>>172952224
>shieldbearers will pass up a quest that puts pressure on board every turn and is easily completed by the concerned deck

>>172952159
Control Priest will make a comeback.

>>172952527
The quest reward is worse than getting an additional card at the mulligan
Not even joking.

>>172952226
You have to actually play ranked to get there tho.

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>>172952030
>beat pirates

pirate warrior
if anything it only gets better

Lakkari sacrifice is by Far the worst quest
You have to discard a fucking fifth of your deck to get two lousy 3/2s per turn

>every quest reward except priest directly helps you end the game

why is this allowed

>>172944248
He's mad people are demanding Wild support

>what fucking retards they want to play the same deck over and over, can't they just buy the recent packs everytime and make decks with those !

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>>172952527
>shieldbearers will skip 1 mana and make their hand weaker for a card that's only good in the control matchup

>>172952527
>Control Priest will make a comeback
For two days.
In the current "Everyone has leeroy or giant golems" meta priest isn't strong enough to hold out, especially without a Reno.
Quest does fuck all for you unless you plan on running greater healing potions.

>>172952703
The thing is that in discard decks you are discarding those cards either way

Has Eloise done plastic surgery on her eyes?

>>172952703
just deathwing m8

>>172952159
There isn't going to be a single viable Priest deck in standard. I'm pretty sure they actually just don't have any good cards to build a deck around.

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>>172952609
>>172952728

see >>172951336

You now have to post the first un'goro top meme deck that comes to your mind

Wrathion Barnabus Druid

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>>172952842

>>172952904
Holy FUCK nice meme.

miracle priest

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>>172952885
>shieldbearers will draw their quest instead of topdecking something that will stop the pirates from shoving themselves directly up your ass

>>172952904

Handlock with quest where the only discard card is deathwing.

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>>172952904
I want run a jadeless barnabus druid and thinking if venture has a spot there. Low cost for stats and if barnabus is already active your minions will not be that expensive anyway.

>>172952904
Moroes violet apprentice quest rogue deck

>>172953082
anon if you want big stats just play the 5 mana 8/8

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intredasting

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>mfw i still play renomage on Wild