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previous: >>172890584
First for stop making early threads.
Second for lewdposting
>>172906640
Fucking armpit
post more armpit
Hell yeah the best armpit image was posted
when it comes to balance and deckbuilding always do the opposite of what /svg/ says
>>172906640
Is Lord of the Flies vials yet?
I haven't seem him outside of T2 in ages.
>>172906776
Even better: when you Soul Conversion Thane for 2 face damage, 2 cards, and a 0-cost 4/5 bane&ward
>>172906890
But they're right about Dragon being strong right now.
Who here /loves this expansion/
>>172906902
No. He's value support slash lightning rod since it's easier to cover him now and it's easier for your board leftovers to maul someone.
>>172906890
Tell me, is meme dealer blood aggro good?
>>172906657
This, "Immortal Thane is bad" meme needs to stop.
It's just falseflagging at this point.
>>172906804
>no fun allowed
Stop unironically not allowing us to ironically have thought battles unironically
93920
can I get a concede pls?
should i craft a wolf for the silver bolt deck or kill myself
>>172906969
I don't know if it's good or bad - but it's fun as hell.
>>172907051
yeh
>>172906985
Hey man, if people want to sleep on a card that floods/stalls/pings, that's on them. He's a fantastic T7/8 drop, especially when going first.
wich shadowverse wuld u violently impregnate?
Is Aegis Haven worth crafting right now. I'm about to burn 11k vials on it someone stop me
>>172906961
I know I do. Enjoying the netdeck Rune tears more than anything though.
>>172906969
lmao if anyone vialed their soul dealers
>>172907113
Leonidas.
>>172907113
Arisa and i'd even raise the children!
>>172906804
You're complaining about people theorizing a game in a thread of people posting animeshit and waifus in a board of pseudo intellectuals in a taiwanese basket weaving website.
I'm not even one of those autists but you are one retarded motherfucker.
>>172906997
bump,
93920 please concede
>>172906985
>Wight King is now only good as a 0PP
It sure feels weird when I crafted 3 of him and expected him to be good (He never was).
>>172907113
Admiral
>Forestfags
>>172907240
Thanks!
>>172907051
Yeah, wolf's a very fun card to use in meme decks as well and he's future proof
>>172907146
No. There's too much burn/storm to make it out against decks that aren't shit.
>>172907113
Wyrm spire. Dragons for days
>>172907107
>thane stalls
How? He doesn't have ward or anything.
>>172907338
MOOOM DAAAAD GET THE CAMERA
>>172907364
Can I get a concede, that's why I put the let's battle again
55703
>>172907238
I'm sure you aren't. You'll also notice that pedoniggers get their lumps just the same as everyone else. I'm sorry if pointing out that you're a fucking child is hurting your fee-fees.
>>172907416
t.Forest
>>172907113
Eris no contest.
I have a thing for long skirts, boring girls and long hair.
>>172907385
He does when he gives you the Wight King, which can happen on the turn he's played with help from either an evo suicide or Conversion. A 4/5 with ward and bane that costs 0 is nothing to scoff at
I can't decide if I want to wait for Gawain to come out of """maintenance""" and craft 3 of him, or start working towards ramp dragon, even though I can't afford all the leggos yet.
>>172907421
Thanks
So what's the meta dragon dick gonna be?
>>172907616
If you want to be a metafag just make commie shadow.
>>172907441
>People who don't adhere to my arbitrary standards of social interactions are children.
Get a load of this guy.
>>172907113
My adorable wife Unica!
>>172907685
Pure ouroboros rampWell for me anyways
Somebody give me a Roland deck
Luna being gangbanged by hordes of undead!
>>172907786
wait til gawain comes out of maintenance
>>172907786
I'll give Roland the deck if you know what I mean
>>172907582
Yeah, but he needs to die first. I can just imagine them throwing roaches or other storm thing at your way on turn 7.
W-why is everyone in this general so mean?
>>172907939
Card games
>>172907939
I'll be your friend anon, what craft do you main?
>>172907689
>I have a wall-scroll of C.S. Lewis' quote telling me it's OKAY that my favorite novel is Sorcerer's Stone!
I deeply regret that people aren't admonished for neglecting social temperance as much as they should
thoughts on pepe deck? execution is for wards or ToS, barrage is for le spooky skellingtons/reaper
>>172908034
H-haven.
>>172908034
p-pepecraft
>>172907879
Which is why I run both Thane and Khawy in my 7-slot; and decide which to drop when depending on the deck.
>>172907685
hard to say.
I've been swapping back and forth between saha ramp and storm ramp.
The zell combo with saha is strong but I find I brick more with it so I'm finding the storm variant more fun.
Is this edgelord any good?
>>172907879
The thing is that Thane usually comes after Death's Breath.
If they wipe your board you just play Eachtar or another breath.
If they don't wipe your board, all your units just became pseudo rabbit necromancers.
>>172907818
Oh, he made more comics? Cool.
Post cards that are objectively bad but you can't stop including them in your decks.
Carry on my wayward frog hunter. You go catch those rare pepes
>>172908071
A third Albert.
>>172908104
>>172908142
HOW REVOLTING
>>172908104
>>172908142
That's okay.
All you have to do is kill yourself, and it'll all be okay...
>>172908278
Lord really isn't that bad. He's more defensive than Thane and Eachtar but can serve as a win condition unlike Khavy.
>>172907818
>use 6 board clears
>luna continues to flood the board
The amount of shit you can generate with mid shadow is nuts
>>172908398
>>172908393
But why do you hate me? I'm a human being too, you can't treat me like this ;_;
>All my missions require Dragon
Can anyone give me a decent deck list?
>>172907818
Cute!
>>172908205
Yeah. Pop that attendant/lurching they ignored then evolve for ALL KINDS OF VALUE!
>>172908551
any decent dragon dick requires a ton of vials.
here's a good one >>172908184
>>172908419
He's not bad, but those 3 mentioned are almost always better than him in every situation.
Is there lethal in this picture? What would you have done here guys?
>>172908468
Just lightning Storm bro.
>>172908278
He wins cool points in my book, but the competition for the 7 slot is obviously too hard.
>soul dealers with laura and demon generals
Remember guys. Vial everything that /svg/ says it's shit.
>>172908551
otk disconewt, storm, neutralcraft, or shove in whatever you got in a ramp skeleton and win on outvaluing when you draw good.
>>172908517
We can be friends anon, let me tell you all about a vagabond frog called pepe
>>172907818
I really need to get my ass off and start translating the series one of these days.
>>172908725
What about him?
How good are Crystalia Tia and Bloodhungry Matriarch? I need some vials.
>>172908621
Just caprice barrage bro
>>172908789
Tia's core forest, matriarch is anti-token tech.
>>172908789
Keep 2 of matriarch, 3 of tia.
>>172908789
Tia's good. Matriarch isn't. But she'll be amazing in two expansions just like Soul Dealer.
>>172907956
I don't get it, am I dumb or what?
>Let's see it now
>Hmm?!?
>What's wrong Rowen?
>I thought Forestbat was a goggled man
>Yeah, what's that?
>Looks visible to me
Did Rowen not see what the actual art was or what?
I HAVE GOTTEN 11 CAPTAIN WILFRIDS, TWO OF WHICH WERE ANIMATED, AND SIX GALRETTOS, ONE OF WHICH WAS ANIMATED
WHAT THE FUCK
WHY NOT A SINGLE USEFUL GOLD LIKE GREMNIR OR SOMETHING, I DIDN'T GET ANY
I HATE THIS GAME
>>172908468
I'm glad that they actually added a real token generator deck to the game. Not just reducing cost with Daria, or sacrificing fairies to roach.
>>172908782
Is it worth buying a pre-made deck multiple times for vials?
>>172908789
Never vial legendaries.
>>172908686
It is not really that consistent. Paraneko had a lost streaks with it last I checked his stream.
>>172908789
listen to me im the only one that you can trust just vial it all by the way my name is svg
>>172908923
I don't understand.
>>172908901
>mfw pulled 3 grimnir but I just play aggro shadow
>>172908923
pretty sure you get more vials from buying card packs over the premades. Only do it if you need the leggos because you can't vial them.
>>172908789
Go through your animated bronzes and silvers.
>>172908929
Except Dark Jeanne.
>>172909014
Already did that.
>>172908995
Every deck should tech in 3 grimnir its so meta
>>172909021
Keep her too.
>tarnished grail shows your opponent what cards it gave you
Why?
>>172908419
Its still a good card but has been pushed into the shit category because they keep printing progressively more broken 7 drops
Unpacked 3 Gingers but the only neutral leggos I have are Bahamut and Olivia. Can I still make anything decent out of it?
Reposting from last because I didn't realize it was dead when I submitted
I have enough vials to make Azazel OTK dick which looks like fun - but is cucked harder by wards than fucking Tyrant since atleast that has 2 cards to circumvent them
Or should I make Sneks? I really want to play Sneks but I'd need 3 copies of it (only have 1 + 2 Belph) and propably 1 more revelation (have 2)
Low masters by the way so no A2 rank opinions please
>>172908923
You only get to buy 3 copies of a prebuild, if I am not wrong.
>>172908621
Cant see it and what was your next draw if you use sorcery cache?
>>172909061
Pick a craft you hate and vial every single card you get for it. Helps fund all of my other crafts pretty well.
>>172908042
wat
whats up with all these namefags
holy shit
>>172909210
>n-no low rank opinions
>even though I can't decide what I want to make or what is good myself
>>172909228
You are not but that isn't relevant
>>172909210
You're a master you're a big boy, why would you need to ask /svg/ for advice
is Merlin free vials now that she got powercreeped by Lou?
>>172909021
Pretty good in count, she helps build your aegis, I get some lethals in storm haven with her helping the birbs, and the additional anti-token board damage is nice.
>>172909204
Yeah, you're running a shift list that stalls out to ginger, drops reina-bombardier's, evolves, shifts, and lethals.
>>172908923
You can't vial the animated lego so no, it's not worth it if you don't actually need any of the cards.
If you are going to play the legos/golds included however, they are a very good value.
>>172908621
If that 4/5 is a Khawy then there is no exit
>can't lethal because you brick your own board with skellies that summon more skellies
>>172909341
Every prebuild has one lego that can be turned into vial, so technically you can buy vial.
Just doesn't worth the trouble.
>unpack animated leggo
>it's unplayable trash
a-at least its free v-vials
>>172909021
Do not reply to yourself. Its sad.
>>172909210
It's fun. No way in hell competitive, but really satisfying to 20-0 people with an empty board.
>>172909331
its only one guy with the pass thats namefagging
>>172909474
Might as well play Dshift and pretend it's fun.
So is Eachtar actually worth crafting or should you just play full aggro shadow?
>>172909210
Make snek.
>>172908468
That's the whole point of black though.
>>172909562
he's good.
>>172909434
Live by the skellies die by the skellies
>>172909434
>skellingtons within skellingtons within skellingtons within skellingtons
>>172909561
Pretty much. Dshift was fun for about 30 games so I'd wager this would last about that much.
we need more urias memes, fuck vania
>>172908923
I'd wait for the Seers Globe to come out and see if it really is a type of rewards system for spending crystals before using them on anything.
what the fuck urding dragoon scyther doesn't activate storm for a second time
>get rid of vagabond frog
>he immediately plays another one
>>172908904
It certainly is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUQcS4xhhqo
>>172909817
> Using Urd to activate fanfares.
>>172909331
J-just themis bro
>>172909817
Cause it's a fanfare you illiterate inbreed.
Beetle Warrior is literally a 3-mana Albert with 1 less health.
>Le Bloodcraft is bad and dead meme
I'm not only having fun, but this shit honestly works.
Carried me through all A3, and I was stuck for a long time.
You said the same fucking shit about Sword last patch and look how it turned out.
>>172909562
If you like playing Shadow it's hard to go wrong with him. There are 2 legendaries per class unlike previous sets, meaning it'll take twice as many pulls to get a full Shadowcraft legendary set, and Eachtar's the only legendary that's actually good. You basically have to craft if you want to get a class playset as F2P now.
>>172909820
Time to settle down.
>>172909276
>>172909413
Well I Sorcery Cached the Fate's hand and played that killing the Khawy with the 5 damage Wind Blast and played the rest of the cantrips. On his turn he plays another 2 wards and my hand ends up like this, it should be simple from here.
NO ONE MAN SHOULD HAVE ALL THIS POWER
>want to try Ramp dragon and Control Blood
>half the deck is leggos
I shouldn't have blown my dust on meme decks before the expansion
>man why do i keep bricking
It's skeletons all the way down
>>172909934
Sneks?
>>172909623
Token generation was never really a heavy black thing. If they make lots of creatures it's more through reanimation value. But in MTG really every color has access to token generation. Probably because you can have unlimited creatures, unlike SV.
>>172909934
>A3
>>172909934
Don't wanna ruin your fun, but AA0 to AA3 is thrice as long as D0 to A3
>>172909334
>>172909349
Masters is just a sign that you've played the game alot
Any autist with a t1 netdeck will reach it given enough time, even on sub 50% winrate because of low Masters not giving a shit, especially before score resets
So basically I just wanted informed opinions
>>172909934
Aggro blood is fine and all but still auto-loses to most haven, and potentially dragon depending on how good they curve
Best part is that you can out-face shadow while they have no heals
>>172910013
>all of those bones
Papa Nito would be proud of you.
>When the shadow wins off RNG
>>172909940
I have one which Ive used in my budgeted list. Its a really fun card that seems strong. Im just not sure if its better to just play full aggro where your curve ends at Cerb.
>>172909965
He played another plus a ding dong?
New Game-AI tier listlmfao at making week 1 tiers
Tier 1
(Storm) Ramp Dragon
Aggro Shadow
Tier 2
Silver Bolt Forest
Aggro Sword
Midrange Sword
(Tempo) Daria Rune
Dimension Shift Rune
(Eachtar) Midrange Shadow
(Nephtits) Control Shadow
Storm Blood
Aggro Blood
Aegis Haven
Tier 3
(OTK) Combo Forest
Tempo Forest
PTP Forest
Control Sword
(Concede) Dirt Rune
Face Dragon
Vengeance Blood
Control Blood
Storm Haven
Seraph Haven
Sun Satan Haven
Tier 4
OTK Dragon
Discard Dragon
Elana Haven
soo just fought first pepe deck sword agro killed it at turn 5. why is this deck good?
Why?
>>172910037
>tfw still no good graveyard manipulation in SV
Why doesn't discarding count as killing the creature fucking cygames
Post that one armpit picture. You know the one.
>>172910276
http://game-ai.jp/12306/
>>172910335
>first pepe deck
because people brick and netdeckers are bad
What are the must crafts for TotG
Any good deck list for Haven? Just need for missions.
>>172909562
>So is Eachtar actually worth crafting or should you just play full aggro shadow?
Both are ridiculously overtuned decks and if vials are your main concern there is no need to craft Eachtar. But Eachtar is a beast.
>tfw you're staying up late because you want to try a gawain deck
>>172910401
http://game-ai.jp/12306/
trying clicking the moonrunes that say TIER
Just got my first 5 wins in T2.The last win was from a DC and I was about to lose next turn
>>172910372
This one?
>>172909564
sneks are good
>>172910276
>frog not even tier 4 with discard dragon
pepecraft shitters on suicide watch
>>172910401
>>172910493
Weird
http://game-ai.jp/12306/?from=menu
>>172910429
The closest thing to one would probably be grimnir. Golds are good, efficient crafts in general and being neutral is even better. He's also even more played than Urd, who is a top tier craft herself.
>>172910216
>>172909562
I went from a pure aggro list to a more midrange list and I like it a lot more. I've had games go to turn 12 against dragon/control decks and end up winning because the deck has a lot more steam. Zombie Party, Thane, Eachtar, Death's Breath. You can start flooding the board every turn in the mid game.
It's fun getting themis 2-3 times in a row and then dropping that last board flood and watching them concede.
>>172910493
>>172910401
>>172910637
oh shit, I'm sorry; fuck is wrong with their site
>>172910618
Be quiet luna, no low rank opinions, snek is the way to go.
>>172910592
I love her
I need her
>>172910036
Midrange Mastebats
>>172910051
>>172910109
>>172910193
;_;
>>172910137
Haven's preety though. Has answers for everything I wanna do, heals all the early chip damage, and if I win it's because they got out of answers for Mastema/Soul Dominator.
Dragon's been no problem so far though. Mastema ensures that whatever they pull out of Sahaquiel stays dead.
>>172910540
>ToG Shadow
You don't even need luck, shitter.
>>172910276
>Forest is dead
>Sword is dead
>Aggro is dead
>Daria is dead
/svg/ doesn't know what it's talking about once again. Of course, because the list doesn't align with the opinions of the people here, it's clearly a joke and should be dismissed out of hand.
>>172910461
>>172910635
Pepecraft hides in the shadows and OTKs unsuspecting shitters.
>wasn't paying attention
>urias randomly makes a 7/6 storm general thing with no PP
What did he use?
>>172910276
>Aegis Haven
>tier 2
I hope that means I'll stop seeing those faggots in ladder. Building a deck to farm Lamps is easy as fuck but Aegis is a free loss every time.
>>172910276
>>172910401
>Forest not tier 1
I waited for a so long but it is still shit. Fuck this gay earth.
>Hits the wrong target with breath, killing only one follower when he could have killed both
Christ. He conceded immediately after this.
>>172910735
There are more tempting armpits for me though. I'm not even a fetishist, but something about a girl showing her arms like that is beautiful.
>>172910836
>Running Lam Dragon
>>172910276
Sneks is tier 3? Why? Too inconsistent? Dies to Themis?
>>172910898
>Lam
one job
>>172910836
Damn, I'm glad I held off and didn't craft Ouroboros. Time to craft the last few legendaries for ramp dragon.
>>172910836
>(concede) secret witch
Does it mean that deck that below this decks are unplayable memery?
>>172910836
>guys dragon is bad
/svg/ why are you always wrong
They remove my board, but I remove their face.
>>172910276
>game AI
>>172910771
adorable
>>172910696
Im playing a very budgetted swarm shadow now with just 1 Eachtar and stuff like Goblin Princess. Its a really fun deck and nice to survive all the clears that dragon and haven have. I think Ill just take the vial hit and make Eachtars for the fun factor.
post aegis dick
>>172910758
I've actually been interested in trying that out now that I've messed around with Sneks and Lauroach thoroughly.
Post dick so I can see if I have the right idea.
>>172910962
they called it that since the start of the game, it doesn't really apply now
>>172910893
GREATO SHAMEU I HAVE BLANG ON DISSARU FAMIRY I MUSTO CONCEDEO DESU
>>172910276
>OTK Dragon
>Discard Dragon
There's a difference?
>>172911030
Never seen that deck. How does it work?
>>172910401
>lets just put everything in T2 because we don't really fucking know and could hardly give a shit
>Vegabond pepe in take 2
Not cool
>>172911051
OTK focuses on the Dragonnewt combo
Discard focuses on Dragoon
Someone hook me up with an aggro shadow decklist? I wanna get skelly.
>watch Jap streamer play Ginger deck
>He's at 0 master points for the past hour
I don't know what kind of miracle cygames can pull off to make her good
>>172910992
Who is this literal semen demon?
When is shadowverse gonna get some REAL cards, huh?
>tfw your player ID is just all unlucky numbers
WHAT THE FUCK I SPENT HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS IN PACKS ON MY TIER 1 DRAGON DECK AND SOME FAGGOT JUST KILLED ME TURN 5 WITH SOME STUPID FUCKING FROG I COULDN'T EVEN ATTACK.
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT ALLOWED?
>>172911076
its just control earth rite rune, I think they called it concede because it doesn't really have a win con it just strangles you out and makes you want to concede
>>172910429
Grimnir, Sybil, Rahab, Blood Moon, and Israfil. Gawain is yet to be determined.
>>172911307
Wow, what a cuckold.
>>172911307
What the fuck, I built my ramp for free. You're suppose to reroll bro.
>>172911352
So dirtrune? Fuck that deck. That is the gayest deck I've ever faced.
>>172911090
How many of those archetypes in tier 2 do you think belong in another tier?
>>172911009
Thinking about putting another Wind God since she's a preety solid win condition. I often end up with full boards.
Also the guy I got the deck from had another Soul Dominator but I ran out of vials.
Needs tuning but it works preety well already and wins a lot so I feel it has the potential
>>172911307
>buying
Anon why
>>172910836
What was GameAI's score for cards like Catacomb, Eachtar, Aegis and Lolisquisher?
>>172911307
>>172911307
>>172910758
is it thatreddit'slist?
>Tier 1 GameAI dragon list doesn't run any fortes or Oros
Well fuck me I guess, I got meme'd. Time to save up for Sahas Lucis and Isras ;_;
>>172911283
holy shit, gotta tell my friends about this card!
>>172911483
What would you swap the second Soul Dom out with? Imp Lancer?
>>172910461
literally any tempo deck will work in unranked.
I won 4 in a row with random shit I pulled out of packs.
>>172911676
>trusting a list a week into the expansion and taking it as gospel
>>172911510
catacomb 5 stars
eachtar 5 stars
loli 4 stars
aegis 4 tstars
>>172911283
>9 mana 5/4
What's the point?
so, is lou from rage of bahamut a boy or a girl?
>>172911769
All the stories you can tell :-)
New update: You can now trade cards with other players if you're both aa0 or higher.
23 MINUTES UNTILPOSSIBLE YET UNCONFIRMEDFREE PACKS
>Start first five times in a row
>Lose five times in a row
No matter how high I am at Masters ladder. No matter what decks I make. It always. Fucking. Comes down. To THIS. FUCKING. BULLSHIT.
>>172911676
The tier list is accurate, the decklists are generally shit.
>>172911676
It's an old list that some guy posted on the 30th.
>>172911676
I feel safer with some Fortes in there and going to cut 2 cards out for her. Though I've been reading how Oroboros isn't needed anymore.
>>172911846
Probably 3 packs only.
>>172911269
Cheap board clears, end of turn healing besides lucifer
I squeeze my bible if I need a game winning topdeck and it works 100% of the time. I suggest fellow Christians try this secret technique.
>>172911769
Because you can't remove it reliably unless you have an empty board or 4 damage worth of aoe
EVERYTHING that's targeted is chosen randomly, including attacks
>Playing Sword
>He had a way to clear my field with his followers while keeping most of them alive
>He decides to leave my reaper till last
Fucking what?
http://game-ai.jp/28693/
thoughts on this deck list compared to the gamewith one?
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/24871
>>172911307
Just noxious dragon bro
>>172911852
Why not play a deck that likes to go first? The current meta is chock-full of lists that want the extra PP to slap down their hard or soft wincon before the other guy.
>>172911585more or less
>>172911736
Idk man, probably Imp Lancer since they more or less do the same and Stolen Life works preety well against nu-wards like Grimnir
Do you believe in the heart of the cards?
>>172912057
He heard you were a dead class so he wanted to give you a freebie to feel better about yourself
>>172911846
FREE PACKS?
>>172910836
B-but /svg/ told me forest and sword were dead
What do you guys think about this ramp dragon deck list compared to the game AI one?
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/25867
>>172912036
so your cards hit randomly too (assuming it was you who played that major of something)?
>>172912036
>EVERYTHING that's targeted is chosen randomly, including attacks
>even attacks
Why is this allowed?
>>172912176
Yes, your own minions can turn around and hit your own face or your other minions
>mfw my Tarnished Grail gets hit by Odin
>>172912123
>T3 Devil of Vengeance
>T4 top deck Meme Dealer
y e s
>>172912064
gamewith decks are mostly a shit invented by their staff, game-ai at least has a lot of decks that people tested themselves for hundred games
>>172912116
Also no Windjammers? That's probably the biggest difference between the deck I tried to throw together before seeing yours and the one you posted. I thought they'd be nice to have for midrange, but I guess not.
>>172912202
Because nobody is ever going to run it?
>>172912175
I'm not a fan of emissary with how many 5 or over cards are in the deck and there isn't space for luci any more. Blazing breath also isn't great.
>>172912274
T7 mist-Eido, t8 grail. Can't banish what he can never reach
>>172912123
>get them down to 2 health, but will lose next turn
>summon bloodkin on hand
>draw Vania
What's your Winged Kuriboh?
>>172912123
>Dire Bonds/Claws in hand
>topdeck Bloody Mary
>topdeck another Mary/Vampire
>win
Can't count how many times this has happened to me.
>>172912174
Can assure not dead got like 94% win rate over those games
Is Chimera + Frozen Mammoth viable in Daria?
>>172912570
Are you midrange, control, or pepe?
>>172912096
Aggro is dead in this meta besides for Shadow and I don't have or care to craft three Cerebrus.
I only just now cheated out a win against Dragon with a topdecked Jungle Warden. Didn't draw a single Dance of Death that whole time when it could have won me the game at any point earlier. But OF COURSE against Dshift I get TWO of them because FUCK ME, CARD GAMES.
pls rate and grill
>>172912570
You have to win against competent players for the deck's winrate to be relevant.
>>172912510
>have no cards and one evo point
>enemy has 6 hp left
>>172912641
pure face
https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/866/jcg-season-2-vol2-b-1st-place-deck-face-swordcraft
using most of that deck have few changes
Just submitted my decks for NGE Open.
Gonna be Commie Sword and unfortunately, since Gawain STILL HASNT BEEN RELEASED Capitalist Sword without Gawain.
Wish me luck /svg/
Crystalia Aerin is so fuckin good holy shit. It's exactly like all the new Dragon cards that just get a million extra effects for free
Though I don't understand the concept of "Control Forest" if you can just put their two good cards in your combo deck.
Who are we watching?
http://live.shadowlog.com/
>>172912845
Which one is cute girls?
Reminder that ogre is your best friend and will never betray you
>>172912769
What format is the tournament?
whoops gawain is later
>>172912635
Yeah but you can't run too many
>>172912769
Anyone know when registration closes?
>>172912845
wow thats bretty gud, ty for the link anon
I LITERALLY STARTED FIRST TEN GAMES IN A ROW
STOP THIS
STOP THIS
S T O P T H I S
im having a hard time getting a good grasp on the meta right now its really disheartening when the deck you build arent working
I had a fun silver bolt deck last month with a 50% winrate
it was just full of card draw wards and healing
the current silver bolt deck (pick related) is more tempo like and its missing maahes
can someone explain to me what im missing, why is tempo so much better right now?
>>172912957
Two decks
Have to win with both decks
Gonna be hard with the sword deck but it is very greedy so it can beat almost anything.
>>172912950
Let's see that dick
>>172912845
Oh wow that's pretty neat.
>Play pepecraft
>lose to goblin pepe
>>172912769
You can have two decks from the same craft?
I've been trying to hammer out the aegis list to take but after losing a bunch to aggro shadow and storm ramp dragon which I'm trying to counter I have no idea.
>Two expansions of shadow/Haven/blood deleting everything I do for x turns until they kill me
>Now rowen is bullying other rowens
Game is getting fucking rtarded
Shadow now is T1 class in arena mode?
>>172912713
>2 elf queen
Welp, you're retarded for using more than 1. Elf is the thinking class, maybe you're better off playing shadow.
>fairy beast
Put him to rest, he's been power creeped by aerin and elf queen. Rip.
>>172913029
I think in like twenty four hours but you should submit your deck ASAP, as in right the fuck now, if you want to be safe.
>>172913057
Going first is better, you dumbass.
>>172913065
That isn't the current silver bolt deck lol.
>>172913065
You're outclassed by the powercreep they got and you didn't
>>172912064
i like wraith is finisher
surplus of shadows, ambush is decent right now, beefy enough to stick most likely
>>172913065
>bellringer
>tia
>fairybeast
>homecoming
outdated my dude
>>172913096
>You can have two decks from the same craft?
No.
Each deck has to be a different craft.
>>172912713
Why no Grimnir? Niggas won't be expecting Grimnir in awoobolt
>draft 2 Khawys
>feel bad for this dragoncuck
>bait a Raigeki with a 4 follower board
>yeah it's over, he has less than 5 cards in his deck now
>drop first khawy
>raigekis and his face with evolved ouroboros
>ok, i got my second
>third fucking raigeki and lethals
Welp, that's another 4 run.
>>172913243
Oh. You said commie sword. I guess you meant shadow?
>>172913065
>>172913237
sorry didn't read full post
drop all the cards in my post and add gobu, feena, aelin, vist and a fairy queen
>>172913243
Oh woops I see my mistake. I type sword twice. I meant Capitalist Sword and Commie Shadow.
Anyone got a good Aegis deck? Is zpeh good enough
>>172912273
what's the point of it then
I hate mirror matches so much.
Feel likes a giant coin toss, it's never satisfying.
>>172913236
What the fuck is this?
>>172913483
A control rune deck that isn't dshift
>>172913065
oops i put an old one up
I think this is a more up to date one
i still cant wrap my head around the meta right now
>>172913091
>>lose to goblin pepe
wtf is goblin pepe
>>172913151
B-but I just wanted to run two copies of my waifu.I'll drop one and add Feena back
And of course this dogshit fucking player has Olivia into Israfil in take two.
>>172913160
THAT'S ONLY FOR SOME DECKS AND PROBABLY ONLY IN SOME MATCHUPS AT THAT
>>172913343
My bad. I mistyped. Yeah I did mean shadow.
>>172913483
Something not spicy enough
>>172913409
You can literally just throw him into a Seraph or Sun Satan deck as a replacement win condition.
This is the deck I like to use though. Works surprisingly well, and it's really fun.
>>172913664
You think that's bad? My opponent had Aegis on turn 9 and Test of Strength on turn 10.
So is Sword still the best arena craft? I have lost every single game vs them this expansion.
>>172913160
I don't know if any deck wants to go 2nd now besides DS. Even Haven would want to go first just to play Aegis earlier.
>>172912123
I do.
>>172913271
I'll try that out.
FREE PACKS
>>172913610
Probably a pepe deck that only runs quickblader/ ninja trainee + pepe. That way conscription has a 50/50 of pulling either quickblader/trainee or pepe. The goblin would be the 2nd lowcost 1 mana card and since it isn't a "officer" conscription won't pull it.
>>172913771
zzz you beat a meme deck better post on /svg/
>>172913670
Are you fucking blind? The image tells you it's better to go first for 5/7 classes and for the rest it's pretty much equal.
>>172913824
Really? How many?
>>172913845
>Every deck in a class wants to go first equally
YOU'RE RETARDED LEARN HOW STATISTICS WORK
>>172913670
Back in RoB, yea, but decks are so volatile now to the point where you want to hit 3pp first, or hit 8-9pp first rather than get an extra card and evo point.
>>172913664
T2 is defintely worse now, I just fought a dragon with oroborous and israfil
>>172913845
>post shitty image that shows nothing but percentages
>hurr durr why don't people understand what the image is saying?
>>172913824
why?
Beautiful, powerful, and cute to boot!
Running Away is OKAY!
Haha I'll blow you Away~~~
Why is T2 so fucking bad now? Do they seriously expect people to play this competitively?
>>172914068
Did you forget to post a Feena picture anon?
>>172914068
GOBBYS FEELING HUNGRY.
>>172914068
Blow your brain out, dubcuck.
>>172914184
You first weebcuck
>>172913596
-1 aerin
+ 1 EPM
Erika has been tasked with the duty of slaying Rowen The Dragon, who has been terrorizing villages of the Kingdom...
Turn 1: "Leave it to me, ma'am!" Quickblader declared as he set forth from Erika's office. Not even a minute has passed before the deft swordsman arrived at where Rowen The Beast was uncontrollably terrorizing villagers with his monstrous form. "Hey ugly!" Quickblader shouted, catching the attention of The Dragon. When Rowen The Serpent turned around to see what foolish creature dared challenge him he has already been assaulted by a trillion slashes from Quickblader's blades. 1 damage. "Heh... you're pretty tough..." Quickblader smirked as he wiped the sweat from his forehead. "But my superior speed means that I will surely win..."
Turn 2: Rowen the Salamander roars in anger and breathes his Salamander Breath in front of Quickblader's face "N-nani!!?" The final words of Quickblader echos into the cloudless skies as he is mercilessly incinerated.
Turn 3: "My lady!" a Veteran Lancer shouts as she enters Erika's office. Normally a grunt such as herself would be gravely punished for interrupting Erika and The Princess' alone time together, but she was given orders to immediately report to them on any news regarding Quickblader. "Sonic the Quickblader has been slain by the Accursed Dragon." Erika curses under her breath and puts her clothes back on. "Duty calls, Princess. I shall vanquish this accursed wyrm for the sake of Our People... And for you." Erika grabs her katana and Veteran Lancer's hand. "Come, grunt. We set forth at once." The Princess could not help but feel a little bit jealous as she watched them both run out the door.
>>172914068
>>172914068
10/10 ass, would boot
So is Cerb one of the more rare legendaries or will she just not drop for me because I want to play shadowcraft?
I've gotten not-saber constantly. It is like the game wants me to play swordcraft.
>>172913145
It was already second best in RoB. Its still not as good as sword though.
Forest improved the most from the loss of standard cards, kind of like I thought it would. Shadowlogs shows it having a higher 5-0 percent than sword now, and 2nd highest overall winrate
>>172914184
Easily triggered weebcuck.
Not that suprising
>>172914359
>triggered
Go back to your subreddit.
>>172912635
If you reduce the cost of a card bellow 7 the mammoth amulet will not trigger
>172914359
>>172914163
My dick can't rest easy.
>>172914420
Thats not true. Just try it out in-game.
>switch to japanese voices
>VAMPY CHAN HAS AUTISM CHAN DESU NE CHAN :-D
>NIGGER NIGGER GOBU(?) Dx
>TEEHEE SUGOI SUGOI : 3
>G-GAMBARIMASU >W<
God this shit is cancer.
>>172914527
It's the price of being on 4chan.
>>172914537
And weebcuck worshiping this.
Make's you wonder
>>172912570
>all those wins
>still B rank
Sandbagger?
>>172913940
WHEN ONE OF THOSE CLASSES CAN JUST RAMP UP STARTING FIRST OR SECOND IS REALLY JUST A FORMALITY FOR IT
>>172914295
Pay up goy.
>>172914537
Anyone would a brain would know to turn off the voices because they're annoying as shit regardless of language.
>>172914537
>>NIGGER NIGGER GOBU(?) Dx
Fuck, my sides
>>172914778
>listening to autistic voices in card games
This
>>172914778
>Anyone would a brain would know
But yeah, you're right. The best way to play this is to listen to audio books, watch movies/shows or listen to music in the background since the music is so repetitive and the voices annoying at best.
is this guy useable yet?
>>172914778
Anyone with a brain would have grown by now.
There, and here I am on this shit place. Time to shit on some idiots because there's no pleasure in here.
>>172914654
>no majestic armpit
5/7
>>172914891
>King of Games
I would hate if you're actually Yugi. My existence'd be meaningless.
>>172914237
>>172914767
Why when I can just keep re-rolling? With the automation guide a kind anon posted for me a few threads ago all I have to do is click 1 button and check back few minutes to see what I've got.
>Modern scholars such as Peter Partner and Malcolm Barber agree that the name of Baphomet was an Old French corruption of the name Muhammad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baphomet
why is this game so anti-islamic
i find it to be triggering
So just reached rank A0 when are you considered out of shit tier and actually playing real decks?
>>172915036
I don't have any armpit images. I'm not an armpit man. That is not to say I wouldn't lick a cutie's armpit though.
>>172915145
>Modern bullshiters such as literally who and who
>>172915164
A0 is where people start tryharding, still easy until you hit AA0 though. Source: I'm master tier
>>172915137
>automation guide
Wait what. You mean there's a better way?
I've spent the last two hours trying to reroll for double hector.
>>172915164
A3 here, pretty sure at the very least it's masters.
>>172915086
Life is not meaningless when you have card games.
>>172915164
AA and above.
GAWAIN IN 38 MINUTES
>>172915145
>Women have rights and education
It's a pretty hard world for Islamic culture.
>>172915171
Its cool senpai, if you happen to find majestic SV Medusa armpit do share it with me.
>>172915237
AA0 is where start the perfect meta nightmare.
>>172914537
It's either "It's me. VANIA" or "vamps chan ugguu~~~~".
There no escape.
>>172915113
Don't tell me you actually wasted your life reading that shit.
>>172915221
well, it's true
>The name Baphomet appeared in July 1098 in a letter by the crusader Anselm of Ribemont:
>Sequenti die aurora apparente, altis vocibus Baphometh invocaverunt; et nos Deum nostrum in cordibus nostris deprecantes, impetum facientes in eos, de muris civitatis omnes expulimus.[5]
>As the next day dawned, they called loudly upon Baphometh; and we prayed silently in our hearts to God, then we attacked and forced all of them outside the city walls.[6]
actually it's kind of common knowledge if you are interested in such stuff
I've never tilted this hard before in my life. Please kill me.
My name is Lou.
It's short for Lewd!
>>172914654
that's some fucking hews hack right there. but i just fapped
>>172914910
I think it's an awesome card, but I don't know. A lot of stuff is so fast right now, and the decks that aren't fast often have a lot of banishes.
>>172915137
Standard has a fuck huge pool of cards to pull from. Very unlikely to get multiple leggos of what you want. Just try to get some good staple leggos and animated ones to vial
>>172915292
>>172915280
I cry so much more to grind
>>172915373
Shut up and open your mouth so I can drop my shitlog in it.
>Arcane enlightenment doesn't stop when your hand is at 9 cards
>IT SHOWS YOU EVERY CARD IT MULCHES
>Basically have to use it with fiery embrace which leaves it unplayable in many situations
>>172915360
This damn thing keeps running out of steam right before the killing blow and I dunno what the hell to change with it.
...Ya know, besides getting enough vials to make more Cerbs. Ideas?
>>172915360
What you need to do is go to sadpanda, type in your favorite tag, maybe a favorite artist as well, jerk off, and then play tomorrow.
>>172915373
>Lewd!
>>172915486
Craft commie lord hector.
>>172915145
>Muslim "people"
>>172915495
he needs to ragefap to whatever is beating him
>>172915358
>common knowledge if you are interested
haha
haha
tell me more
>>172915486
Delete deck. Make aggro shadow
Game is trash now. Worse than curvestone meta ever was. Top 2 classes have 20+ heal in the deck and all in repetitive form you must kill on sight. Top 2 classes have most single target and aoe removal. Top 2 classes have best win conditions by far. Top 2 classes have most wards and strongest minions by far. Top 2 classes have everything and outcurve aggro decks.
How they fuck up a game this much shows 2 bombs werent enough for the slant eyed gook jews.
>>172915373
Only males gain clothes when they evolve in this game
>aegis counters both T1 decks
>bottom of T2
Am I just getting lucky against dragons and skellies or is this a shitty prelim ranking?
Should I go for it, /svg/?
>>172915495
Masturbation is wrong.
>>172915145
>censors Tsubaki's freedom of speech
>but still has to pander to the red pilled
Sasuga, cygames
>>172915486
>Shadow deck without Eachtar
Anon...
>>172915594
Trying to make skeleton spam Shadow, aggro or otherwise. I keep falling back on more control style cards since I used to play Nep more.
>>172915486
This is a hodgepodge of cards, and the best answer is to either craft cerbs and phantom howls or cerbs and eachtars. So the answer is play more and get more cards.
>>172915313
>>172915609
Nothing yet is worse than prepatch Daria/Roach meta.
When does maintenance starts?
>>172915609
Aggro shadow has 20+ healing in their deck?
>when you wait for the topdecked Albert 3 turns in a row and it never comes
>>172915630
Order doesnt equal placement in tier anon.
Its sorted by class.
>>172915616
Elf Child May though.
>>172915567
>>172915495
2 Haven 2 Shadow 1 Dragon in a row. I'm not particularly sure what to fap to.
>>172915630
it's shit, aegis haven is above any dragon deck in tiers for sure
>>172915609
Run a JO or rites board melter then cucklord. SV is reaching mtg critical meltdown where you have to pick and choose what you'll actually win and not die to by how much.
>>172915486
>bandwagoners who don't have a playset of cerb before ToG
Laptops, all of you.
Moments from now, Gawain will be freed from his eternal prison, and the world shall know true terror.
>>172915775
Yeah but she's doing it to look more like an adult anyway, so the motivation is the same.
>>172915707
nvm just started
Any idea how long it's supposed to go for?
>>172913824
anon what?
So maintenance just happened in middle of ranked game what happens?
Down for maintenance.
I DON'T EVEN PLAY SWORD
FUCK YOU GUYS
Reminder that control sword has a very good chance of winning against the majority of the current meta decks, and Gawain will only make it better.
>>172915782
Well, there aren't any Eris anal doujins yet. There is a LunaxRowen though.There's also no BD scans
pls rember wen u dont get lego never forget ccards make llego
bujild leggo wit cardd
>>172915705
BRB
>thanks
3 otohime or 2 otohime with gawaincraft?
>>172915873
You lose the deck you were playing.
>>172915782
you're either fapping to forte doujins, luna doujins, or the 3 pictures of hag that exist.
>>172915838
>t5 Otomeme
Can't wait, I missed her so much
>>172915873
no contest
>>172915759
Wow I'm retarded and probably should have realized that.
>>172915427
Honestly AA1 has been my peak due to not going on huge winning streaks at that point, tend to lose one then win one. A was still pretty easy to climb through, it's just longer.
>>172915873
You de-rank for not taking the warning seriously.
>18 games in a row nothing but frog, catacomb, and dshift
lol wtf is this matchmaking
>>172915707
49 seconds from your post
>>172915873
You ignored the in-game banner that told you an hour ago
>>172915838
TIER -1 HAS ARRIVED
>>172915878
Well the memes in the skies are charging their orbital otomemer cannons. You're already dead kiddo, you just didn't know it yet.
>>172915630
I used to think the same thing but my haven has been doing a lot worse against the storm version of ramp with genesis dragons and shit and shadow is so fucking gay that you still lose if you miss a drop.
Even if you are at an advantage against both of those (which I'm not even certain of) you're complete dogshit against dshift and wolfbolt. So I really don't know.
Can't get a single win with D Shift tonight. How long is the maintenance going to last?
>>172915591
at least you can read wiki, it has a plenty of quotes
>Crestiantat vey del tot a mal meza,
>tan gran perda no cug qu'ancmais fezes;
>per qu'es razos qu'hom hueymais Dieu descreza
>e qu'azorem Bafomet, lai on es,
>Tervagan e sa companhia,
>I see that Christianity has been badly hit;
>I do not believe that we have suffered such a great loss (as this).
>And it is therefore reasonable that we from now on abandon our belief in God
>and (instead) worship Mohammed there where he is, and
>Tervagan as well and his companions,
baphomet (and also mahound) were a common corruption for muhammad
and also medieval christians though muslims worshipped except muhammad another "god" - termagant (tervagan in the quote above), now it's not clear how they got that idea but it's possibly related to the moon symbolic
>>172911458
It has Big guy as wincon now. Die to Themis and any card with bane tho
>>172914237
>>172915935
3 if you're going all in on her, 2 if you're just going value
>>172916002
Haven can shut down blood with relative ease. At least the two variants I know of. Snek spam and Azarel otk.
>>172916016
kill yourself cancer
>>172914237
Please stop.
The one about Rune vs Haven was bad enough.
>>172916061
Big guy isn't really a wincon imo, he's more of just a matchup and hand check. I feel bad when I run into losers going all in on the big G only for me to removal him. Then he melvie's giving me more answers than he has big guy and I just slap him around until he gives out.
>otomeme
>shadow and its unrelenting ranks of skeletons
>blood's hungering horde
>dragon's salami breath
Can she still be relevant, even as a 5PP?
Just got a second of the Gold Crystalia bitch who sounds like a bitchy high schooler.
Is she actually good? Just feels like she'd be a worse Fairy Beast.
>>172915705
Back.
Do you have more?
>>172916081
Needs a Ta-G edit
Seeing as he's about to drop, what Gawain combos should I be watching out for? What are the deadliest commander's he can drop the cost of?
>>172916172
Post more so I can see more Lunas getting flustered
>>172915425
I'd be settle for ONE Cerb desu senpai
>>172915271
Oh yeah man it is great. NOX emulator has a built-in macro fuction. You have it record a single re-roll and then you can just hit "Play" for every time you need to re-roll.
>>172915838
>t5 concede to aggroshadow
can't fucking wait man
>>172915373
Just hatched a 3rd snek from a pack, what decks are sneks running?
>>172916276
>Otohime
>Walfrid
>Leonidas
>Frontguard
>maybe Roland
>>172915630
>Aegis counters both T1 decks
Do hagfags actually believe this? It's 50/50 at best and Haven has the added negative of losing to every fucking combo/otk deck in the fucking game.
If your opponent is D-shift or Forest, Aegis is concede-tier.
>sword is coming back into the meta
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING. I'M IN CHARGE HERE
>>172916002
To be quiet honest I haven't faced a single dshift or wolfbolt since the start of this expansion but I guess we'll see how things turn out in a few weeks.
>>172916016
Die.
Maintenance for what? Hopefully some few nerfs.
>>172916081
>hits face for 1 and puts you into the lethal range
>>172915486
Put in more skeletons. Max out your 1 drops first with all the usual ones, Skull Beast, Goblin, Skeleton Fighters. You literally have no 2 drops besides Shadow Reaper so put those in too. It's possible to make a budget aggro deck that'll work in lower ranks but you aren't focusing on actually doing it.
>>172916341
Only non-Haven players thing Aegis is any more than a tier 2 deck at best.
>>172915271
How to automate rerolling:
1.Download Nox App player, open settings and make sure "Root" is ON
2.Install Shadowverse and Root browser
3.Open Shadowverse
4.Hit Ctrl+9 to open the macro recorder
5.Click the "start/resume" button at the top.
6.Skip through tutorial, open your packs, and open your card collection screen while filtering legendaries
7.Click the stop button, it will save your script
If your reroll is good this is the point where you link your account, otherwise continue to step 8.
8.Close out of the shadowverse app
9.Open Root browser and navigate to data/data/com.Cygames.Shadowverse/shared_prefs
10a.If your reroll is bad delete the file titled "com.cygames.Shadowverse.v2.playerprefs.xml" (click and hold the file until the menu appears)
10b.If you want to keep rerolling but you don't want to lose your current account rename it something else
11.Reopen shadowverse, you will be prompted to make a new account
12.Click the play button next to the script you made earlier
13.Jack off until it finishes, then either keep or return to step 8.
>>172915145
fuck off you dirty man of the sand
>>172916361
AYE AYE
>>172915486
Your deck is awful anon. Here's some quick fixes if you want to play budget aggro
-2 Disciple
-2 Undying
-2 Knight
-2 Patroller
-3 Attendant
-1 Tempest
-3 Necroass
-3 Khawy
+2 Beast
+1 Skele Fighter
+3 Goblin
+3 Conjurer
+3 Lyrial
+3 Mummy
+3 Phantom Howl
>>172914910
i got fucking memed by it a few games ago, but I was running shit cannon so take that as you will
Vania, vampire princess is quickly becoming one of my favorite cards. It's just so positive and generous. Practically costs nothing at all at two mana you drop her on the board and that chill ass motherfucker gives you a bat to use later in the game. And you also get this adorable little 2/2 can ping things but usually is too harmless to be removed.
But more than the Vania is just so positive. It comes on the board like "It's me, Vania!" and I'm like "yeah Vania let's do this shit" and when she attacks she's like "Yummy!" and I'm like "yeah they are SO YUMMY!" She doesn't say some bullshit macho shit like "I will destroy you" she's just like "nah yummy." And it looks so happy. I mean this is an vampire girl literally brought to life by magic. It understands it's life is a temporary magical gift and the dudette is just fucking loving it. I mean look at her face she's just so happy.
I am literally never sad when Vania is on board. IDK if she's gonna make it into the metagame or not but for now she (or he) a pretty chill card.
>>172916119
>>172916369
Why do you fags hate fun decks?
>>172916424
>jeno+cyclone blade
>alwida
Great, I don't remember Jeno and spells are COMMANDER.
>jeno+cyclone
You really think that up, right?
>>172914237
Heh, thought you could best a thief? Gotta be quicker than that!
>>172916494
Stop with these shit pasta, retard. Your posts are shit.
>>172916446
meow
>>172916494
i think i saw something like this pasta but about reno on
>>172916505
dshift is the most fun beatdown deck
>>172915935
ALWAYS BET ON OTOHIME-SAMA
>>172916567
>vampy
>you
Tell us something new.
Help. The big blonde titty cow keeps picking on me.
>>172914295
RNG just works that way. I got 5 bloody mary's and 0 atomy. Grind arena and she'll fall out or you'll get the vials for it regardless
>>172916383
Read the fucking news posts you nigger
>>172915908
>cave-in and build 3rd card of leggo I need
>instantly open it in the next pack
NO. FUCK YOU. EVERY TIME WITH THIS BULLSHIT.
>>172915908
Thanks, Yuuka.
>>172916649
>>vampy
literally what
>>172916683
No. Hurry up, and spell it out. What's the maint for?
>>172916762
aegis nerf, unkillable was too strong so they're making it take damage now
>>172916806
>>172916753
Both of you are reddit. Where's the mystery?
>>172916567
You have to go back.
>>172916806
This is only if you emote the "What should I do?" emote 3 times. It's gonna be funny watching people forget to do that before they trade.
>>172916842
KMR is a asshole. Why print it, then?
>>172916653
>tsubaki
>no pirates
>maid leader
>floral fencer
you're playing aggro, you want shit to buff your Kek and officers. I played floral fencer she was a brick like 90% of the time its much better to just either evo Kek and go face, buff him with white general and evo white general to value trade or ram Jeno into something and go face with the rest of your board.
>>172916762
wasnt that legendary gwainwiniwnainwianwianainiawin card that still being fixed?
>>172916567
literally why would you be on r/shadowverse
I'm not even judgmental to redditors I just don't see the appeal
What does it have
>>172915935
0 Otohimes.
If you're going second and have Gawain in hand on turn 4, evolving him will let you turn 5 Otohime. That's great!
If you're going second and don't have Gawain in hand on turn 4, Otohime is the dumb turtle slut she is.
If you're going first and have Gawain in hand on turn 4, you don't want to play him because his effect won't go off.
If you're going first and have Gawain in hand on turn 5, evolving him will reduce Otohime's cost to 5. Which makes no real difference because you'll be playing her on turn 6.
Playing Gawain with his enhance means nothing because it'll be past turn 6 when you can play Otohime with reduced cost.
>>172916653
That's just how the matchup will go. Run lecia and assassin to pre-empt themis. Arriet lets you hit lethal at half the needed value. Swap floral for amelia since your board will be crampt. Swap fervid for 3 cyclone. chuck maid leader for keen or alwida. Frontlines and well will brick your board at the cost of consistency of stat ramp. You don't get to play frogger and aggro without being terrible at both
>>172916762
For loading the new prebuilt decks including the free 1 prebuilt code that people who didn't read the news post and click the redeem button to get their code wont get.
>>172916845
/r a pic of vampy reading reddit
>>172916505
I's boring to play with and against.
It's literally solitare where you try your best to just cock-block your opponent so they can't do anything.
It's boring and if I wanted to play that kinda game I'd play YGO where I can masturbate without having to wait 8 turns.
>>172906902
Lord of the Flies is secretly great in midrange shadow. It'll be a while before the net deckers realize how good he is.
>>172916954
it has some interesting stuff
that deck >>172910758 is from there, also i am just reading a long post about loushift with blade mages
>>172916964
thank you for being the first swordbro with his head on straight
>>172917034
>Having seven to nine 7-drops in the deck
Yea, sure, lemme get right on that.
We can't let the sneks win. Post bloodkin!
>>172916842
Aegis, satan, last words+sexton,
>>172916964
t8 otomemer + rousing I guess. Sucks to be a worse death's breath. At least she still has castle otomemers resolve.
>>172908618
Khawy is objectively worse than Lord of the Flies in Eachtercraft
>>172916945
Oh, that may actually be it!
>>172916505
>Just deletes everything I do then shifts because I didn't pick a cancer deck
Solitaire is only fun for the player doing it
>>172917178
lotf in an eachtar deck makes no sense
>>172917145
Bloodkin? More like Dumbkin.
>>172917253
free shadows
>>172916494
>Vampy pasta
>doesn't even mention wanting to fuck her
Gaaaaaaaay
What's the value of Fairy Cage? I'm about to vial it, seeing as how I dislike forrest anyway.
>>172917259
it's their lvl 100 flair, dapper dumbpire
also can't eat that
So how does Arietta work? Do I have to attack first then use her or can I just use her and the card get to attack twice regardless?
>>172916653
What are you doing nigga? If you want pepe sword, you should have the likes of aryan general and other stat boost cards.
Your deck is just aggro with pepe minus alwida and demonic strike.
>>172917326
Vampy is for hugging and kissing, not fucking.
>>172917259
I don't get why people keep reptiles as pets. They're great animals and all, but you can't be affectionate with them.
>>172917350
attack first
>>172917287
Shadows are not a problem in Eachtar decks, fucking skeletons for days fixes that issue.
If im going to run another 7 drop its going to be Thane for creating lethals where they shouldnt exist.
>>172917341
It's the ToG version of Castle in the Sky. It's not even good for memes.
>>172916993
>people who didn't read the news post and click the redeem button to get their code wont get
I don't believe you
>>172917350
Why can't you just attack with the follower, play ariett and attack again?
>>172917423
I'll do all three.
>>172917429
have you even touched a snake? they are very pleasant to touch, they are dry and rough
>>172917341
Some anons reported success using it.
>>172917253
It does when you're playing against removalverse. I'm teching exclusively for the dragon matchup and she offers another boardflood, a diceroll to get rid of problem cards like bahamut and is bait for removal. Having the chance of a storm follower that can be evo'd and coco'd on turn seven steals games too. Or you can just play it and if it survives, eachter them for game.
It's all around versatile and helps greatly against grind matchups like ramp dragon when they get the perfect stall ramp.
>>172914537
>>172916494
>>172916649
>>172916753
>>172917009
>>172917326
>>172917326
>>172917423
It's Vania for you, americans/euro/australians/mexicans
>>172917423
>check sadpanda
>dickgirl cogxveightxvampy
>cog's dick is bigger than veight
I don't know what to feel.
>>172917448
That kinda sucks.
>>172917507
Because wards.
>>172917341
A great idea that doesn't work with a board size of 5. You can do some raunchy shit with the lower cost combo cards in a bounce heavy list through.
>>172917506
We're getting our prebuilts. You're free to go to the news post and get your code too.
>excited to put Gawain in my Leonidas deck
>remember that Dragon exists
>>172916842
Not him but strength isn't the only aspect of card design.
Aegis reminds me of a Mark Rosewater (head MtG designer) talk where he was talking about regretting printing Tibalt. The takeaway wasn't that Tibalt was strong (he was a rather weak card) but the fact that the primary motivation behind his design was the designers pushing an idea just "to see if they could" since prior to him no planeswalker had ever been costed at 2 mana. Aegis feels the same way where someone at the table said "what if we printed a follower that can't be removed?".
Lightning blast just seems like a knee-jerk reaction to Dragon's bad matchup vs shadow. Prior to TotG the banish keyword was squarely a Haven mechanic (outside of Odin who was a necessary counter to Seraph) and wasn't featured on any other craft cards. The fact that nobody in their right mind would have guessed it was a dragon card from the effect text alone is retarded. Regardless of its meta impact it reduces class identity which was one of the strengths of shadowverse compared to other CCGs.
>>172917580
>>cog's dick is bigger than veight
i bet it's cuter too
>>172917609
Thank you for your valuable insights.
>>172917580
Veight's dick will always be smaller than a dickgirl's dick.
I opened 2 Otohime, 1 Alberto, 2 Captain "Wolf" Alfrid, and 2 Gwains. Assuming I follow >>172916964 advice, what should I build to make Pseudo-Budget Commander Craft. I have 2 Support Cannons and some pepes if that's the route to go.
What's your guys' list?
>>172917506
>>172917591
I do not know to what you refer. Which news post? How?
>>172917609
Rune has banish, although conditional.
>>172917609
I agree with most of what you said, but should mention that Rune also has its fair share of banish cards.
Is Dragoncraft too strong right now, or is it people just overreacting over a bad class getting good?
>>172917598
>play any control sword
>realize Dragon exists
Might as well play aggro because the only hope you have of winning is by using Albert.
>no free packs
>>172917712
>>172917745
>rune
Not an argument
Please enjoy my OC, /svg/!
>>172917757
it has the best healing in the game right now, potentially unlimited
>>172917410
>>172916993
Pepe's kinda a leftover from when I was still running other commanders. I wasn't sure what else to run instead of him.
I only have one copy of alwida right now, though I do have two amelias. Would swapping pepe and floral out for those and three demonics work?
Don't make me post porn again. I'll do it!
>>172917757
It and shadow are both so bullshit in their respective ways that they don't really have counters.
>>172917813
This is it boys, Cygames revving up the Jewtrain engines.
Someone lied to me about what was being updated. I'm going to bed upset now.
Uh guys, I cant play my Phoenix Roost deck right now on the ladder.
What the fuck?
>>172917817
>Feeding Luna a Big Mac
This won't do, she's only allowed to eat healthy stuff like carrots and veggies.
>>172917780
>play any control
>realize Dragon exists
ftfy
>>172917609
Banish as a class mechanic was retarded anyway because of how disproportionately it influenced specific matchups. This isn't MTG where you can mix colors, giving one class specifically a mechanic that hard counters the mechanics of another class for "flavor" is shit design from a gameplay perspective.
GAWAIN IS AVAILABLE NOW GUYS
>>172917598
It's like dshift, some matchups they're just better. That doesn't mean you shouldn't get your dick wet.
>>172917609
Salamander was too weak, conflagration was too weak and too expensive without a pendant which sinks your deck. Fafnir was dead for ages. Deathmist is too slow and too weak. Noxious is too slow and too weak
>>172917705
On the sv website in the news posts. Was the top after the roost lock news post.
>>172917757
It's good in a d-shifty way which fucks over any deck that comes into its zone of control which happens to be most decks since it can reliably ramp 2-3 times while healing and clearing board. Then it fucking owns you
>>172917905
READ.
THE.
FUCKING.
NEWS.
POSTS.
BEFORE.
YOU.
LOG.
IN.
WHY IS THIS A SURPRISE?
>>172917757
Ridiculous strong. You can get them down to 4 within the 6 turn in the best scenario, but they'll just heal themselves back to 20 and lel turn the tables.
>>172917580
>>172917701
Veight belongs with men. He is not for futa/straightfags.
13889
Concede anyone?
Gawain will probably be medicore at best and not make sword tier 1. I hope I'm wrong though
>no packs
>>172917821
>>172917881
It still loses to fast aggro, combo, and 50/50 against Aegis. Dshift only lost to fast aggro, and actually still ONLY loses to fast aggro. It has weaknesses. Just because you refuse to play the decks that beat it doesn't mean it's too strong.
Why are people complaining about Dragon over dshift anyway?
>>172917935
At least Haven can win with Aegis and removal. If Dragon draws a lot of storm they're fucked though.
>>172917827
Remove forge as well. You're running albertcraft of last expansion.
Floral and amelia are interchangeable, but Floral is better for offense and doesn't interfere with maid search for albert
anyone have a storm dragon netdeck? highest winrate in masters apparently
>was thinking about playing roost memes tonight
>roost removed from the game
But why?
>no free packs
Uh, shadowbabs?
>>172918083
Sword got nothing this expansion, basically. Shitter.
>>172918023
/ss/ is kino
>>172917817
Cute! Are you gonna color it?
>>172918089
except d-shift is like 40% winarate and dragon is 55-60%
>>172918089
>dshift
Literally cannot win in a game where Shadow manages to drop prince.
I'd wager it's a 80-20 matchup against DSfhit.
>>172917609
>Regardless of its meta impact it reduces class identity which was one of the strengths of shadowverse compared to other CCGs.
I'd rather have dragon creep into haven's class identity than have dragon clearly defined as the useless meme class and haven clearly defined as the dedicated control class (and also struggling to maintain tier 2)
Differentiating classes based on mechanics is a dead end because the more design space is explored the more it becomes apparent that certain mechanics are absolutely necessary to compete. It's like how magic said for ages that card draw is blue and other colors shouldnt get card draw without paying dearly for it, this sort of doctrine leads to nothing but trouble
Classes should be defined by their wincons, not by mechanical artifacts
PACKS WHERE
>>172918121
Guess im done with this game now that theyre done giving out free shit.
>>172918179
That's literally my point.
>>172906640
Roland is the best girl of ToG
>Aryan race master race
>Voluptuous tits
>Child bearing hips
>Thicc thighs
>Swordcraft
they didn't restrict ranked so no free packs i guess
>>172917827
the only card which i would add to the rob albertcraft it's grimnir
>>172918245
>>Aryan race master race
>Thicc thighs
leave
>>172917817
>ルナのハンバガだよ
ftfy
NOW WRITE IN JAPANESE TO COMPLETE IT
>>172918245
>male name
>>172918245
Slut wearing a thong
>>172918114
Read the fucking news posts while slamming a jug of bleach faggot.
>>172918245
She's french, eats pepes for breakfast.
>>172917745
>>172917712
Yeah, rune slipped my mind and I guess technically Daria "banishes" but rune's current banish is tied to the Earth rite theme which is pretty neat. Haven on the other hand has more stat-based and unconditional banish removal.
My point is if cygames wanted to help dragon deal with LW followers there could have been more elegant ways. Dragon already has "transform" as a class mechanic, a hypothetical low-cost spell that transforms a follower or amulet into that 2/2 Dragon (megaorca or something it's called) would fit the class more than the effect of lightning blast.
>>172917941
Sure but that would involve rebuilding from a more fundamental level given how tied to Last words and shadow generation Shadowcraft is.
I'm having a hard time trying to create a deck around gawain.
Roland would carry this class if sword had more access to heals
>>172918071
No one?
>>172917119
>>172917153
>>172917703
To further elaborate:
Gawain deck built around Luminous Standard and low cost commanders seems bad. It's a worse Daria that can't spellboost without Gawain, and Sword lacks the draw to sustain the board flood.
Gawain deck built around mid cost commanders seems bad. Sword runs a decent amount of 5 cost commanders (Albert, Luminous Mage, Aurelia, Monika) that don't benefit much from the cost reduction. Reduced cost Sage Commander could be really good if you have a board. Which is unlikely if you played and evolved Gawain on curve.
Gawain deck built around high cost commanders seems at least ok. Leonidas, Frontguard, Roland, and Alexander are threatening if they come out a turn early. If you don't have Gawain though, Leonidas becomes a big brick.
Not sure about Gawain with Support Cannon seems.
>>172918125
>Sword got nothing this expansion
Guess the lethal
>>172918504
combat medic, 4pp heal 3 3/3 storm officer
ideal for albertcraft :^)
>>172918089
>Dshift only lost to fast aggro
Yeah that's why it has the sub 50% winrate against dragon right?
D-shift literally just preys on hagfags right now. Dragon is alright against every aggro deck. If Dragon goes first it's literally in Dragon's favor to win the match against aggro shadow. Where d-shift barely stands a chance no matter what turn order (literally 80-20 even if d-shift goes first against shadow).
If you think dragon is anywhere near as bad against aggro as d-shift then you're beyond stupid.
>>172918179
>Literally cannot win in a game where Shadow manages to drop prince.
The new prince style of aggro shadow seems easier to beat than oldschool aggro, ime, though that might just be me suddenly having literally ten times as much experience with the matchup as I did pre-tempest
Catacomb is a slow and resilient play, but resilient doesn't matter as much vs dshift because an aggro player will almost always have enough threats to play until the game ends anyway. Whereas the fact that it's slow can compound with a draw where the rest of luna's hand is also kinda slow and allow dshift to outrace
Still an awful matchup, but easier, like how albertcraft is easier than aggro blood
>>172918512
Thanks
aw shit not all the legos have emblems? i just pulled a merlin
>>172918245
>>172918378
STOP SHE IS MY WIFE THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW APOLOGIZE
>>172918537
Support cannon is essentially a turn 5 do nothing
>wake up
>start SV for thw first time in a week
>my tempo witch deck is now tier 2
Should've never woke up. Also
>dragon deck in tier 1
>is barely dragon
Ebin
>>172918583
d-shift adapts, i saw a few decks running blade mages already for a faster combo
>>172918607
standard ones don't give you emblems (but some of them like jeanne have a default emblem)
>>172918569
3+3
5+5
4
>>172918583
Dragon literally loses to aggro blood 10-0 if aggro blood gets even a decently fast draw. Dragon has a 0% chance of winning that.
>>172918616
she a slutty french slut
I bet her armpits reek
>>172918193
>I'd rather have dragon creep into haven's class identity than have dragon clearly defined as the useless meme class
It doesn't have to be one or the other though.
>It's like how magic said for ages that card draw is blue and other colors shouldnt get card draw without paying dearly for it
They still do stick to that philosophy though. Blue still has the best card draw. Red has a lot of looting effects, black pays life or sacs creatures and green's is usually tied to having a big/many creatures.
What I'm arguing for is similar to how green historically had trouble with spot creature removal but instead of giving them something like doomblade WotC instead introduced the "fight" mechanic which fits more with the color.
>>172918537
Curve Standard can work but it relies on getting roland out t6 to outvalue.
>>172918685
unica grimnir rehab sybil, stuff like that
>>172918658
Blade Mages were already widely used in RoB. They really don't help against Dragon if they have a lot of Storm.
>>172917580
sauce?
Can I craft gawain now and not regret it?
>>172917928
Hamburgers are very healthy!
>>172918135
Thanks! I think I'm gonna improve it a little more. Please look forward to it!!!
>>172918327
>ハンバガ
I need it to sound like 負け though!
what's some hard nep counters? Trying to mop up my elite 2 rewards
>>172918769
they also got enchanted sword nowadays
>>172918746
too bad you're effectively dead by turn 5 or 6 against a decent aggro blood draw, even if you're lucky enough to stick something that matters for more than 1 turn
>>172918685
It's not RoB anymore buddy. If Dragon goes first it's a fairly even matchup.
see >>172918746 for the kind of curve that stalls aggro hard
>>172918721
s-stop anon i beg of you
Alright guys lets try to create a gawain deck and cry miserably when it fails.
Here's my first attempt, how's it looking?
>play gawain
>draw officers
>lose
>play gawain
>draw commanders
>lose
>>172918941
brick city
>went to an animecon today
>there was a Shadowverse tournament
>didn't enter because cringe and awkward
>this was the Top 8
Opinions?
The big one won the tourney.
Decks:
1srt
>ginger daria dshift
>rose queen forest
2nd
>megalorcas dragon
>grail haven
3rd
>rogues creed sword
>dirt without the new lego
what the fuck do i play? months later i still dont get it
Just logged on now. Was there actually a free prebuilt code and did I miss it?
>>172918941
>Alexander
My sides
>>172918905
It's cool, I like it too.
Post cute shortstack dragon
>>172918994
U made a wise choice
>>172918994
>going to cons
>>172919021
I think there was I also missed it FUCK
>>172918994
literally what
was it girls only tourney or what
>>172918941
>Alexander
>No arriet
>>172918941
>all those 5 drops
>>172918825
Just leave it at Mac if you want to keep the text English.
>ルナのMACだよ!
or
>ルナのマックだよ!
also works
>>172918245
New even best girl in her own craft.
>>172918537
I think Gawain was made to otohime+the new buff guy combo. It's a combo deck card amd meme in everything else.
>>172918853
There is literally nothing aggro blood can do against a turn 3 Rahab if dragon goes first without wasting burn and trading in a bunch of cards.
>>172919112
>girls only
>clearly 2 dudes on the picture
what?
But no, basically 70% of the Shadowverse "community" over here is composed of girls that like the "mouhh eyy" artworks and bishonens, and only play meme decks
>>172919203
it's hard to compete with albert
>172918994
>big one
All I see is kids, therefore cancer
>>172918994
That whole list is an abomination. I'm glad they like memes but still.
Vial Bloody Mary and Matriarch Y/N
>>172918994
you shouldve of participated and showed them whats real autism
>>172918994
>went to an animecon
>>172918994
>anime con tourney
So do they just play on their phones? Or is there actually some kind of venue?
Also why the fuck are you attending cons.
>>172919245
maybe they are honorary girls
also i see only 1 dude
>>172918724
>They still do stick to that philosophy though. Blue still has the best card draw. Red has a lot of looting effects, black pays life or sacs creatures and green's is usually tied to having a big/many creatures.
Red having aggressively priced looting effects and green having creatures that are bundled with explicit card advantage effects instead of relying purely on VCA from tempo is exactly what I mean by WotC breaking that philosophy
>>172918724
>It doesn't have to be one or the other though.
What archetype would you give dragon that doesn't have to play in a largely controlling way? And if you don't give dragon another archetype, how do you let it cleanly 1 for 1 on board the way it needs to? Transforming (banish + give token), which you suggested, is rune mechanics. Bounce (banish + add copy to opponent's hand) is forest. Straight banish is haven. The only thing they could tack on that would be novel is PP manipulation (giving your opponent extra PP or sacrificing PP for the banish) but even that would have the word banish on it and probably provoke purists like you
>>172919016
Suicide blood. Crash hard, win harder
I don't think gawain is going to work out while dragon is so popular.
Trying to fit roland in and you just know it's going to get bahamuted..
>>172918593
Thing is Dshift's arsenal does nothing. Even the infamous Levi combo cannot wipe out those skeletons. They just keep mauling your face while pre-ToG, you can get lucky with enough burn to empty the board.
>>172915630
>Aegis
>Tier 2
Called it. Being an invincible Turn 9 Do Nothing still doesn't address Haven's issue of having uphill match-ups to decks that have clear wincons that resolve before turn 9/8. D-Shift is an auto concede for all variants of Haven and most aggro decks are able to make short work of Haven most of the time before Haven can stabilize, unless the aggro hand bricked, for some reason.
Gonna predict that as a Craft, Haven can only go downhill from here as the game power creeps further. May you rest in peace, Hag with silly hat and Freedom Birb.
>>172919262
Albert is RoB though.
>>172919038
What posses people to like hairy pits?
>>172919340
>>172919342
Even the oldest tripfags sometimes do it because they're cancer to its core. Time, information and such doesn't change their nature.
>>172919459
I just like girls that smell bad.
Which deck should I make
Right now I only have aggro shadow as far as current meta decks go
>>172919310
Mary's fine and will come and go as the aggro-control meta shifts and more self-harm/reduction cards are printed
Matriarch is a fine anti-token tech
>oroboros literally infinite value can ping your face for 3 and heal dragon unless you have banish
how did they even create that shit without second thought
>>172919538
But hopefully not too bad?
>>172919572
Just odin him bro
>>172915630
What is with the Ramp Dragon list on this site? 0 Lightning Blast? Only 2 Sibyl? No Rahab?
>>172919572
not to forget it ideally fits with zed for 8 face damage
>>172919572
Just otk them bro.
>>172919572
just lightning blast bro
>>172918994
Should've swept it with Aggro Shadow, especially if there was a prize.
>>172919459
Men with patrician taste
swordbros, help me out
>>172919631
>implying i can live untill t8
>>172919664
its not 8, it's 11
>everything is T2 right now except 2 things
And this is why you don't trust a fucking meta until at least 2 weeks at the very earliest. This shit is laughable.
>>172915630
i don't get this list, do they claim that an aggro deck is worse with echtar than without him?
>>172919604
Scatfags can fuck off, if that answers your question.
>>172919572
It's just a argubly better Mordecai.
If you want to bitch about something Dragon has Oro isn't that high-up.
>>172919701
distinct lack of Pepe
>>172919572
They said in their interview that ToG concentrates more on Dragon, Blood and Shadow.
Now most likely they saw the statistics to Dragon and said, "this moron isn't winning as much as we though". So they created 6 cards to actually help him. Israfil, Grimnir, Zell, Sybil, Ouroboros and Lightning Blast. Which means Dragon is now the healer class and not Haven.
6 cards to help dragon. What a moronic craft.
>>172919732
>everything in RoB was T2 except for daria and roach
yeah, no, I'm pretty sure this is a realistic shape for a tier list in this day and age
>>172919701
>9 five drops
>>172919732
There are never more than 1-2 tier 1 decks lol
>>172919692
grail haven though
>tfw urias-bot kills himself
Skull dragon too OP for programming
>>172919572
Just petrify for 6pp value bro
>>172919701
Needs Roland for top affluent.
>>172919803
I don't get this "Dragon heals more than Haven now" meme.
>>172919820
I'd slot in Monika if I could.
>>172919375
>exactly what I mean by WotC breaking that philosophy
It's not to the same extent where if you ran the card text only to a player that they would almost certainly fail to guess the color though.
>Transforming (banish + give token), which you suggested, is rune mechanics
Crystalia Lily already exists as a precedent outside of rune and dragon already has Draconifciation (which is one of the few spells in shadowverse that doesn't have an allied/enemy clause). It still feels better than straight banish a la Lightning blast which completely feels like a haven card.
I have 1 albert, 1 tsubaki, 2 otohime, 1 aurelia, 1 alexander and 1 gawain
What would I need to craft for mid or control sword?
72707
Need a concede please, or I can play it out if you want for a win, I just need this quest done..
>>172919907
Are you retarded? It really does.
>trying to test out a roland/gawain deck
>dragon
>dragon
>dragon
>dragon
So shadow is pretty much a guarantee loss for a pepe deck, right?
>>172919803
>expansion "concentrates" on crafts
so they buff certain classes which leaves other behind
most retarded shit i've ever heard
Dragonbro getting spotlight for the first time in this meta.
>>172919950
Might just be confirmation bias but I haven't seen A dragon player heal through 30+ damage but I've seen Haven do it a fuck ton.
>>172919907
Cause it does.
>>172919928
2 more albert
3 alwida's
optionally also 3 grimnir and 2-3 fangblade
>>172919929
Thanks a lot!
>>172919864
>DE meta
>only one or two t1 decks
Even with storm haven running amok, there were more than 1 or 2 decks that were t1.
>>172919982
You don't want a meta where all 7 crafts are equally popular.
>Griminir
>Lightning blast
>Aegis
Truly the biggest cancer this game has seen, not because they are OP. They're good cards but pigeon hold so many cards from ever seeing play
I truly dont see how they make this game any fun. I'm literally forced to play aggro shadow and abandon every other deck I own because of these three cards. What is the general consensuson this? I'm sure im not alone. I mean i will adapt but its just ridiculous....
>>172919459
it's lewd because it's rare, it shows they're a degenerate.
i find pubic hair in hentai arousing for the same reason.
>>172919927
>Crystalia Lily already exists as a precedent outside of rune
I'm raising a fuss about this because Crystalia Lily specifically pissed me off when it was released as a blatant ripoff of petrification / winter's caprice. Draconification is nowhere near counting for anything because of how inefficient it is.
I mean arguably you can say that the floodgates on transform being spread around classes are already open so all the banish needs of control classes should be loaded onto that mechanic, but IMO that's a stupid hangup, if diluting transform more is acceptable then diluting banish more in the post-odin world is also acceptable
>>172919701
What's even the point of running Gawain here? Like what combo are you enabling? What super strong follower are you playing earlier? I feel like you need a super commander heavy deck or some high-value follower that benefits from being played earlier to make him worth it.
Like the best I could see here is a Luminous Mage + free Albert evolve on turn 8, but that's it.
>>172919445
You're forgetting the fact that 90% of ladder is Haven, Dragon, and Shadow, and dshift gets absolutely fucked by aggro Shadow.
Aegis/Dragon matchups work because you can just ignore all of his healing and use removal on turns 6-8 so they don't get too far ahead with ramp and as long as you save an evo point and draw an Aegis you can kill anything but Bahamut.
Similarly with Shadow it's more of a dice roll to hope you draw early removal/wards but if you can get a Themis out on turn 6 they probably won't recover.
I honestly hate playing Haven right now but I really don't know what to do against the sheer number of Dragons I have to fight now.
Fuck you swords Im going to rape you in unranked
>Dragon has a board on t10
>doesn't clear it on your turn
>he banishes everything you have and kills you next turn
and i thought haven is in a bad shape this expansion
control sword is literally dead
Oh well, back to farm those dragon shitters with my good old aggrosword then
>>172919101
>>172919340
>>172919342
>Also why the fuck are you attending cons.
I went because I had adateBut said date didn't show up
So I hang around and went to see what was up with the tourney.
>So do they just play on their phones? Or is there actually some kind of venue?
Yeah on their phones, they basically sit down and play versus each other on a table, then told the tourney manager who won, 20 persons entered the tourney.
A dude literally just made a fresh account and entered like that just to try the game and talk with the grills.
They wanted to set up a big screen or something like that to show the people what was happening but they had "technical issues" and nobody couldn't watch anything.
Also I don't know if you could even stream what's happening on a phone, they were retarded.
>>172919692
>especially if there was a prize.
Prizes were:
1rst
Nintendo amiibo-Zelda: Breath of the Wild
2nd
Wolf Link Amiibo - Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess
3rd
Nintendo amiibo-Link (Archer): Breath of the Wild
From the 4 to 8 got Nintendo Eshop gift cards of different amounts (or psplus if you wanted)
I don't like Nintendo so I decided to pass and not embarrass myself.
>tech against dragon, get fucked by shadow
>tech against shadow, get fucked by dragon
I think sword is going to have to slink back to aggro to stay relevant in this meta.
This is ridiculous.
>>172910836
>tier 1
Who's laughing now faggets.
>>172920062
You can count? Check what top1 heal cards are on Dragons possession right now. Don't let aside Neutral cards.
>>172920327
back? its most viable deck always was half-aggro and hyper aggro is meh right now
>>172920123
The fuck is grimnir preventing you from playing?
>>172919975
Yeah. Shadow/haven/rune Frog hunters got you
>>172910836
what site is this
isnt this what people wanted having new decks that really were never meta relevant before become the tier 1 decks? im really happy shadow and dragon are good now, they have been getting the shaft since for a long time its about time some of the other crafts get the spotlight, heaven can go fuck it self thou and good job for blood
>>172919982
>DE is literally the hag expansion
>calling shits on ToG
Go banish yourself.
>>172920463
Boku nogame-ai.jp
>>172920427
Do you even know what the card does? At any time after t9 any class can conflagration that hits face while leaving a ward body too. That's most of the followers that are playable.
>>172920123
Game pics posted in this place make me think Dragon+Shadow are the most played here, followed by some Haven. You won't hear them complain about those cards, even Bloodfags are happy with the cards received from ToG
>>172920404
4 per turn from lucifer, 3 per turn from Sibyl, 3 per Ouroboros death.
Assuming your opponent is so fucking behind that they can't remove these within the turn they come out. that's about 19 extra healing if you've play'd each once. not counting "effective" healing from wards. Dragon could heal more if they go unchecked but it's also less consistent since not alot of their cards have cantrips like some of havens healing cards.
>>172920279
azazel blood beats both
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>172920260
christ, that sounds like an abysmal prize pool unless the amiibo market is hella distorted
>sword is pet class
>dragon is oppressed meme class
/svg/ should be lynched for their shit opinions from before tog dropped
>>172920162
>Draconification is nowhere near counting for anything
I mentioned it because the fact that it CAN target enemy followers is noteworthy considering how SV loves handholding with those kind of cards. Of course it's horrible when you have to use it as "removal" in that sense but it paves a way for a more efficient dragon card whose primary focus is removal of enemy cards.
Banish should not exist as it currently does. It is way too strong and tied to cheap spells or high stat minions that trade 3 for 1. Also nullifies multiple classes and cards. Cudgel for example should be a 3/3 for 4 and gain +1/1 on evo. Most spells are 2 dmg for 2 pp. Why is a complete banish for 3 hp or less that removes the last word and doesnt trigger any on death effects (growth or dmg to face or what have you) and de ies shadows for necromancy. All for same cost as co ditional removals.
>>172920525
>isnt this what people wanted having new decks that really were never meta relevant before become the tier 1 decks?
aggro shadow has been around for fucking ever so I am really not pleased to have it become such a prominent tier 1 and also budget deck
i'm bored of the matchup already unless I'm playing a new deck, whereas if new decks came to prominence I could play old decks against them and still feel a sense of novelty
it's awfully restrictive
>>172920601
>Aegis cucks support cannon too
Ban this sick filth.
>>172920627
Dragon was pretty medicore between Darkness Evolved and RoB. It was definitely a meme class for a long time.
In theory, luminous mage-gawain combo and ofc other officers can be fun
but in current meta it's impossible mainly because of how strong shadow and dragon is.
>>172920715
shut up shadowbab
>>172920715
t. Shadow player that wants to run over everybody even harder than he already does
>>172920525
The way the tier 1 decks win is not fun in any way for anyone facing them.
This has also been true since the game released. It's part of what makes those decks tier 1.
>>172920812
>>172920812
>>172920812
new thread
at least wait until image limit you fucking mongoloids
new release /svg/ is the worst
>>172920591
>>172920591
Sibyl heals every turn, mate. And dragon is naturally always ahead in any match.
Also you forget a lot of cards like Dragon's Nest and Fevor. Reminder: Sibyl and Fevor gives Dragon free orb Play Points and a lot more.
>>172920558
Wow I mean themis existed, and revelation, and Bahamut but grimnir changes everything!
The effect is strong and versatile but he doesn't prevent anything from being run. He's a fucking turn 10 card. There are no turn 10 board flood wincons in the game and grimnir doesn't kill anything that bahamut, themis, or revelation could. In fact he doesn't even work against the newest board flood wincon for blood so he doesn't even stop that deck in the slightest.
Name one deck that he prevents from existing or stop being an idiot.
>>172920776
>>172920820
Stop morons. If you aren't discussing anything just kindly stuck your ass on some chair and keep yourself shut instead of doing that early shit.
>>172920252
>Oh well, back to farm those dragon shitters with my good old aggrosword then
>He doesn't know
>>172919907
Sybil
Draconic Fervor
Ouroboros
Saha + Luci
Saha + Israfil
Luci solo
Israfil solo
If you noticed haven has only one big body with a heal. It's Curate.
Now Dragon has fucking monstrous bodies that actually also heals. That's stupid as fuck.
>>172920252
You'll get the DELETDELETDELETDELETDELET brother.
>>172921209
Saha + Israfil doesn't work by the way, the heal 4 is Fanfare.
What should I change in this deck
How are you suppose to win if you used up all your evo points stopping the aggro menace as storm ramp drago
>>172920260
>giving out nintendo prizes at a mobile game tournament
What the hell were they thinking? No wonder nobody bothered competing.
>>172920121
explain why
>>172921209
You forgot the eggs
>>172910836
What the fuck is eira bishop?
>>172921209
it's not stupid. the ramp class has to have its power invested in something defensive like healing. ramping to "i'm thoroughly alive" is less oppressive than ramping to albert or aegis.
zell was the mistake.
Post fun dicks