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>What's new?
HEROES OF THE STORM 2.0!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpNkFA7gAHI [Embed]
>Cassia, D2 Amazon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkdtQ1fOZY [Embed]
>Hero Mastery Taunts
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20638785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAEDd4nES_M [Embed]

>For Azeroth reactivated; get a WoW mount by playing Warcraft Assassins
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532383/

> Two Heads Are Better Than One; get your free Cho'gall (if you haven't already)
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20602241/

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE [Embed]
>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20626038/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20649608/
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581822/


Hero Rankings, various Statistics, Talent Calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find you assburger defiecients?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previous Thread: >>172712441
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Does anyone know who the third 2.0 hero is going to be?
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>>172827491
Maiev
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>>172827491
Garrosh
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So when exactly is 2.0 going to be released on the usual server?

Thursday? 2 weeks with Genji?
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>172827491
KEL'THUZAD
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Holy shit this took fucking forever but i finally did it
the best girl is now the best level
Can't wait for my master taunt in 2.0
Sylv is so much fun and so fucking good, i don't understand how can people even play any other heroes ever
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>>172827846
April 25th
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ill be legit upset if lei shen is never added. need more wow heroes. only have 2 right now.
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>>172828161
>reminder that we're in the middle of 5 non-warcraft heroes in a row because of reddit bitching and memeing with "le assassins of warcraft"
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>>172828327
>>172828161
>Being a wowbaabby
>Being a pnadafucker

Kill yourself
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>>172828327
Really? Thanks, reddit. Guess you can get good stuff done now and then.
I have never played a warcraft game in my life. More Starcraft and Diablo, always and forever.
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>>172828327
>still no warcraft map
>Overwatch looks to be getting the next one
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>>172828412
>He hasn't played Gods Gift to mankind that is Warcraft 2 and Warcraft 3
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>>172828161
>Falstad Wildhammer
>Li Li Stormstout
>Chromie (Chronormu)
>Varian Wrynn
>Ragnaros the Firelord
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>>172828717
falstad is wc2 isnt he
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>>172828535
Dragon Shrine is pretty much a warcraft map
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>>172828813
No. You might be remembering his brother, Kurdran Wildhammer.
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I will literally fight you right now If you que into my placement games without being able to play all roles
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>>172828813
>>172828981
no worries anon, literal Blizz director didn't remember him right either
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>>172828945
>Dragon Shrine is pretty much a warcraft map
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>>172829079
Yeah
It looks and plays like shit.
So Warcraft.
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>>172828945
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>>172829108
fuck off starcuck
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>>172829108
OOOOOOOOH
I would have used garden of 45 minute games for that joke
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>>172829108
>>172829191
Fuck off Diablofags. You have like three maps.
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>>172829228
2, but so does SC.

I would be ok with each franchise having 2.

Including retro.
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>>172829269
Lost Vikings map when?
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH MY OBSCURE QUEST GIVER IS NOT IN HOTS WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>172829228
Someone mad that their shitty series doesn't have a necromancer rep in game?

It's okay wowbabby. Maybe next year.
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>>172828327
>reminder that we are in the middle of celebrating diablo's 20 anniversary 4 months late.
because they can't get shit done on time, not reddit.
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>>172829000
>tfw Butcher only account floating around in Diamond

I'm a bad person.
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>>172829403
What do you do when you get countered in draft?
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>>172829374
Kel'thuzad isn't a Necromancer?

rip Gandling

>>172829517
Lock him in. Do what I can to play around it.
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>>172829517
Different Butcher poster here
I play "I'm a specialist guys no really" Butcher if my hard counter is on the field (i.e. avoiding teamfights, pushing lanes, gathering meat, and only participating in fights if superiority has been established)
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>>172829665
I like playing Butcher and seeing an Assassin or Spec solo laning. :3
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Blackthorne when?
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>>172829963
Garithos when?
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Fuck i wish the 2.0 was active already, playing the old game is so tedious when i know all the cool shit that is comming and playing on the beta server hurts because i know all that progress will be wiped and means nothing
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>>172830558
Yeah, actually. I've just been doing my dailies, brawl and then heading back over to League and/or WoW
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For sylv is the exploding minion talent ever not shit? seems like triple damage is better every time
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How is it possible that blind works on illidian? Thats fucking retarded
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>>172832040
>old sylv used to be able to explode enormous waves of minions including mercs in 1 second
>feelsbadman.jpg
that shit was so much fun, especially when enemy heroes where standing in it
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>>172832237
does explosion not have any effect on mercs anymore?
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I really don't get why they put a cap on how many chests you will be getting as an existing player..
they also upgrades some skins to legendary despite clearly not being legendary
instead of just tweaking the drop rate..
and they are replacing real currency with gems it looks like
I don't like a lot of this
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>>172832661
>I really don't get why they put a cap on how many chests you will be getting as an existing player..
$$$
What happens if the players who are mostly level 400 and higher which is most of them would get 400+ chests? they will get all loot they ever want and spend no more money on the game
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>>172832789
But that's how many they would get if they started today and got to that level...
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>>172832839
yes but they didn't start today so why give it to them? that is hundreds of thousands of players we are talking about
this will force old players to shell out more money and it will lure in new players because they will get lots of loot
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Should I get back into this game?
I never reached level cap but I did play my fair amount of games and I'm sort of missing the simplicity this game provides
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So my total hero level is 261 with 2 characters being over level 10 and 2 being at level 9

What does this mean when the new loot system is implemented into the game?
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>>172833107
About 50 chests from that about 6 ebin chests
to get all 75 chests you need lvl 1000
If you want to get maximum value you have to start a new account
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>>172832923
they (((added))) so much useless shit in the collection you'll be rolling in dupes for years between sprays, voice lines that were already there and now are sold separately, skins that are obviously scrapped designs from previous iterations and all the other mumbo jumbo, not to mention all the shit they'll be adding in the future.

This is like kotick spirit haunting us.
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>>172832985
Wait a few weeks for 2.0, then see if you hate it
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>>172833187
I care not about maximum value, I care about losing out on good stuff.
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>>172833107
this is what you lose even considering all the gold gained through the current level system if you had all the heroes at lvl 10 once 2.0 hits

81,000 gold
2,8 epic chests
32 hero specific chests
44 rares
177 common chests
2k gems
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>>172830558
can still level up some things to be close to the next box.
try this https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1feRvu-SdcsFw_jc-6axJMNhiInwFYck9sOPf96zwxLg/

>>172832839
but the game is intended to end in a year and there will be no new content so that won't work.

>>172832923
you missed the past 2 years of people saying the pricing is ridiculous. what do you think that 35 basic box limit says to people playing since launch (or more likely quit) about how much better the new system really is? how about when they realize those are actually a strong gold sink? maybe something like "thanks for letting me fuck myself out of heroes" or "wow it's fucking nothing"?
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>>172833334
Does this account for the 1250 gold you get for leveling heroes to 10 right now? 'cause that's 80000 gold for the current cast. Are they doubling the rate to get 2500 gold by level 15?
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>>172833491
>end in a year

What?
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>>172833334
You are not losing anything
These rewards are for new players, missing them is not the same as losing them.
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>>172833832
woah where's the new player tab at? all i'm seeing is progression?
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>>172833832
Blizzdrone, stay off from MY thread
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>>172834091
No dude, like the system itself
New players get to use it more than old players
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>>172833279
that is what maximum value means dipstick
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>>172834193
oh

Well that sucks
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>>172833493
>Does this account for the 1250 gold you get for leveling heroes to 10 right now?

yes it does
doing the same thing in 2.0 nets you 160k, minus the 80k you get now and that's what you get
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So... should I not be buying heroes? Because I have been buying heroes. And skins and mounts too. Fuck. I get I shouldn't level anyone up but still
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>>172835685
-You can lvl up anyone who's beyond lvl 8 and a half, since those will be >lvl10 in the new system, meaning that each susequent lvl will require the same amount of exp.

-Do not touch any hero lower than 5, and do not play heroes between 5-8 if you enjoy that hero and want to get their dedicated chest at 10 (it is just a guarantee of ONE item for them, but still)

-If you want a particular skin, DO buy it. Unless you want to try your luck or really hate other tints of the skin and are willing to sheckel Shards for just one tint in new system. The latter option is also more valid if you already have a decent amount of skins/heroes, since you'll get ton of shards from duplicates (I have all heroes and something between 15-20 skins, so I've got over 2k shards from 30 chests)
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>>172836237
But if I level up anyone over level 8 won't I be missing a common chest per level?
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>>172836398
Past converted-level 11 any level will be as difficult as any other level, so that doesn't make a difference, your next common chest will always be the same distance away.
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>>172836398
If you can keep yourself from playing, DON'T, but if you have to, a common chest probably wont yield that much cool stuff per opening.
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>>172836398
Basically, don't level anyone who is level 8 or under so they won't go over level 10 after patch so you get the hero specific lootbox. After patch cutoff point for level 20 is at ~400k exp over level 11 which is like 2 games so don't level any level 10 characters all the way to 11, or atleast stop as soon as they hit 11. Level 30 after patch was somewhere around level 13
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The taunt shit wasn't a bad april fool's?
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>>172837179
It was, thank god
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WHY IS REDDIT FILLED WITH KEKS AND BLIZZDRONES
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING RETARDED I DONT GET IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172837179
Yeah, apparently we're getting new animations for the MVP screen and golden name borders for loading screen and the such
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>>172837693
what did he mean by this? whats triggering you so badly anon
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>>172837693
>stop acting entitled
>I for one am happy for what I'm getting :)
>they dont have to give you anything
>they're making content for FREE
>be happy you get anything at all
>entitlement
>entitlement
>entitlement
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>>172837693
WHY IS /hotsg/ FILLED WITH KEKS AND BLIZZDRONES*
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>>172837693
About what?
Is this about the fucking crates again?
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>>172838157
no it's about ultis and golden guns.
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>>172838157
no its about the storyline and balance in legion
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>>172838157
no its about blizzard not pandering specifically to me
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>>172838157
no its about the mmr system being complete shit
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>>172838157
no its about that blizzard doesnt fuck my ass hard enough
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>>172838157
no its about journey to un'goro
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>>172838157
no its about gamer entitlement and not appreciating generous devs
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>>172838157
no its about how i'm feeling lost with no purpose in life
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>>172838157
yes its about the fucking crates again XD
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>>172838157
no its about the fucking crate again
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What's the difference between the normal and epic rmounts from ranked?
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is it possible to be a good chromie against good opponents or is she only good when the opponents are bad?
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>>172839617
The other is a basic mount and the other is an enhanced version for non-shitters.

>>172839693
Good and bad is subjective. Obviously if you're better than them you'll do better.
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>>172839693
She's all about predicting patterns. I have more trouble hitting bronzies because they don't sidestep Q and W, but decent players eat them at least half the time and I've only ever seen one dude so far at masters who switched between standing still and side stepping to fuck with me.
Overall she's great if you're better than everyone else and can use her kit properly
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This general has dropped to /sc2/ levels of quality since 2.0
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>>172839961
Well blizzard told us to not play the game for 3 weeks so all we have is shitposting.
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>>172839961
thats impossible
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>>172839961
Someone hasn't been to /sc2/ in awhile.
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>>172839961
Atleast we don't have kpop spammers yet
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>>172837726
Is this true?
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>think i queued vs. AI for quick 3 win daily
>all game it was quick match and i was bitching at my team for losing vs. AI

lmao
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>Play Sylvanas again after not touching her for a year
Holy shit, she is fun. Why did I ever stop?
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I love playing Uther and I'm glad he's getting OP in the next balance patch
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>>172839617
Glad you asked fellow gamer.

>normal mount
Everyone in the game with you likely has the same thing and/or looks down on you for using free shit.

>epic mount
Everyone in the game with you likely has the same thing and/or looks down on you for using free shit.

See you in the nexus!
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>No Clone Trooper skin for Raynor and Tychus yet

What the fuck is this?
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>>172843878
Wishful thinking or confirmed?
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>>172843858
>not touching her for a year
she's actually gone through some balance and talent changes so she's not just a brainless lane pusher anymore

still real good at it, but now offers some pretty solid teamfight utility and damage
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>>172844151
some talked about his new talents and he's basically a mix between a support and a tank, because of synergy between holy shock and a baseline beacon of light, plus the armor he gets, he's looking strong as fuck

Also free armor to anyone
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>diablos new skin mounted animation
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>>172845625
Is femdiablo the best skin yet?
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How often do you get a "repeatable quest" ? The one that gives 850 gems
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>>172846195
once per week
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What's the most fun assassin/tank right now?
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>>172844151
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/62jrwf/horsepants_na_brain_uther_info/?st=j10u3ihn&sh=baf6cd1b
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>>172838157
no its about how im not getting free shit in a free game
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bruh why do blinds work on Illidan when he's already blind
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>>172846708
dayum
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>>172847032
Because gameplay > lore
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>>172847032
He can only hit people right when he's blind, so the blind counters his own blindness and makes him see things again. He becomes so amazed that he can see that he misses his attacks because he's not paying attention.
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This spear fucking sucks
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do I save my gold now or spend it on master skins?
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>>172847671
Master skins
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>>172847671
Master skins are 100 shards. Don't waste your reroll funds.
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Support

No resource

Cooldown based

Trait resets cooldown on all abilities for burst healing

Soon
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>>172847825
V-Velen?
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>>172847671
save
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>>172847671
>or spend it on master skins
they are being turned into bottom of the barrel tier skins that literally everybody will own, why would you spend your gold on them?
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So Cassia comes out this week ya?
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>>172847032
He sees magic
If you threw a bunch of magic glowy dust in his face, itd just obscure everything so he cant distinguish anything from eachother. Its like a sensory overload for him.
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>>172847889
because I didn't know exactly how they are changing them, obviously

>>172847782
>>172847850
will save for rerolls, thanks
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>>172847671
Are you stupid?
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>listen to anub's announcer pack
>remember how much I hate his voice work
;_;
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>>172848218
KINKY
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>>172848218
>"Oh cool, anub got a voicepack"
>It's his new voice
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>>172848218
anubs voice sounds like he's gagging on dicks

>VOR FHE VROZEN DRONE
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>>172847825
fucking cocktease, at least tell us what universe he's from
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>>172847825
No resourcesless hero will be coming any time soon.
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>>172848865
Oh you mean like illidan and samuro?
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>>172848218
>Listen to Li-Li's announcer
>The audio quality terrible

:(
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>>172848970
Yes
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>>172845462
>>172846708
That's good

So when is Tyrande getting her buffs then? Or possible rework
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>>172847825
Auriel turned out great
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dude...waht if there was a hero that could like... drink from the enemies healing fountain.........
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>>172849190

>punished for winning

dumb
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>>172827491
IMPERIUS
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>>172849079
She and malf should be next considering how old their design is
Malf still works thou so they may skip him for leo and alarak
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>>172828161
His VA is dead though
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>>172849386
Malfurion is hardly in need of buffs or reworks.
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>>172827491
apparently a chick because french site lists her as female
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>>172849574
>it's fucking D.Va

God damnit Blizzard, you have 1 job
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>>172849620

>support

no
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>>172849535
>scouting drone
>shrink ray
>ice block
>hardened focus
>mule
>stormshield
>bolt
>rewind

He's a fucking mess mate, I know it works, but he's still a fucking mess
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>>172849620
I think it's the new sniper bitch from OW
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>>172849638
who says it will be a support?
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>>172849638
>girls can't be supports
what the fuck are you smooking?
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>>172849757

d.va would be a warrior though
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>>172849867
where is this support meme coming from?
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It's gonna be Maiev
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>>172850136

>maeiv
>healer

no
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Okay, real talk

Is the whole Parry build Varian in ANY WAY fair or balanced at all?

>constant immunity to all damage no matter what you do

>"Durr just dont auto attack him"

>Can't help but auto attack him because that's what you're supposed to fucking do in the game

>can't ever kill him if the healer has good positioning

This is driving me to new levels of tilt. I've never been this salty, even during Murky's post-rework update
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>>172850046
Blizz said somewhere that there would be added some supportS in early 2017 or something like that so far we got lucio so there must be another coming
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>>172849574
Cool. Can't wait for Kel'thuzad. She is best girl.
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>>172850491
You need cc. Lots of cc.
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is casia fun with a tnak and heals? beta qm i always end up frpnt lining :s
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>>172847842
>>172848694

Moira
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>>172850890
she shits damage like fucking gul'dan my man
q build all the way
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>>172850491
What? you mean 4 divine shields in a row is problematic?

Hmm, I don't know if I see it...
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>>172851124
Well actually, anon...
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The proposal is simple: on converting, 0 chests are awarded. However, every chest (or gem reward) the veteran player player would have earned if getting to that level under the new system is placed into a bank. Think of this like "rested experience".

Every time a veteran player levels up in 2.0, they get 2 chests. One from normal progression and another from their bank. This continues until their banked chests are depleted.

There's no sudden shock from veteran players unlocking all of the content instantly and there's even an incentive to get a stimpack to cash in that bank faster. This starts off slightly slower than the start from 0 method proposed earlier, but surpasses it quickly and this way veteran players can enjoy all of the rewards of 2.0. Eventually.
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>>172852196
>Copypasting from Reddit
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>enemy team let's you get prot varian in draft

it's like they wanted to lose
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>>172852196
>>172852301
Oh, did someone actually post the idea from a few threads ago on reddit?
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When?
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>>172852196
I was thinking vets should have a temporary double chest rate, up to 500 boxes. I dig your idea, anon. Any business expert here to tell me what it would cause for blizzard? Would they ever afford to do it?

>>172852301
>all great ideas are from reddit
then maybe go back there, we're smarter than them here on vg
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is there anyway to make twin blade varian actually work
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>>172853248
At that point shouldn't you just be playing The Butcher?
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>>172853248
What's wrong with twin blade Varian?
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>>172853667
Blizzard made these options
It is not my fault I wanna try them
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>>172853726
he's just easily countered

but he's a good niche pick if they dont have blinds but a lot of mages
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>>172852301
I'll have you know that it the idea came from here and was posted on Reddit because Blizz actually looks there.
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>>172853248
He's a decent jungle for taking camps, and can solo bosses too. Though his teamfight potential is comp dependant.
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>>172853745
>dude multiclass lmao

At last check it just wasn't good. There aren't many "Yo, twin blades varian would be awesome here" moments in draft.

He used to have a more or less instant point-click stun. Nerfed.
He used to have a ridiculous amount of self-healing via right-click. Nerfed.

>>172853850
Because it shouldn't work past a particular MMR and it's worse than both his other specs. As well as multiple other Heroes.
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>>172853248
Yeah, it's called Butcher
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So are we done nerfing Ragnaros yet
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Kerrigan can be taxi'd across the map be lunging at a friendly Falstad at the right moment. I wonder if Illidan and Kharazim could do the same, or are their dashes too fast for it to work?
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>>172854642
I think I've seen an Illidan fly across the map with The Hunter.

Khazim seems like he'd be a bit quick, though.

Poor little Butcher gets tuckered out after a few seconds of running.
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>>172854505
Those nerfs aren't enough. He's still a top pick/ban along with Valeera.
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>>172854505
Hopefully not.
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>>172854505
No

Let it all burn
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>>172854749
Now that I think about it. Would you be able to tow an Artanis with the Zealot Charge talent? The charge itself may be just slow enough to work.
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>>172851127
hows aa build compare? haven't tried q yet
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>>172854809
>along with Valeera.
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>>172854809
>along with Valeera
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>>172854809
>Valeera
>top pick/ban
Maybe in bronze.
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>>172855460
At least in lower ranks. She's annoying as shit to deal with. Mostly because of her stuns and smoke bombs.
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>>172855638
>Implying we're not all bronzies in disguise
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>>172855758
yeah, i hide behind my diamond account

they will never suspect me
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>>172855758
*I* am silver thank you very much.

I am much more skilled and my games are higher quality than those in bronze.
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>>172855181
Didn't have the chance to try that with a decent comp, and it's too short range to work otherwise
Figure it would make for a decent warrior killer if paired with an arthas thanks to martial law.
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>>172855790
>>172855810
We're all bronze at heart. We all picked Triple Tap Nova at some point.
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>>172855640
Only in lower ranks, actually. If anything they'll BUFF her severely. It's painful.
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>>172855790
>>172855810
>>172855928

It's HOTS. It's all bronze until GM.
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>>172855986
Then again. In all my games with bronzies, Samuro was a common ban too.
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>>172855758
>>172855928
I clawed myself out of bronze league, I did not suffer weeks of hardship only to be accused of a faceless person of being a bronzie.
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>>172856184
Anything stealth shits on bronzies, which is why they're in bronze in the first place.
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>>172855181
>>172855843
Q build is a shitload of poke damage
probably best build
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>>172856316
>Valeera has a 36% win rate in Bronze
>Li-Ming 37%

hm
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>>172856316
>>172856580
Whoops. Meant to mention Zeratul also having a 36% win rate.

Nova almost 40%, imagine that.
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>>172856580
>>172856716

>high skill characters take high skill
wow, who knew?
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>>172856580
>>172856716
That's bronzies using stealth heroes. Anyone half decent at this game would shit all over bronzies with a stealth hero
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>>172856580
Alright I guess maybe not 'bronze' since the stealth players are the ones playing the heroes. The sweet spot must be around gold rank.
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>>172856795
Anyone half decent at the game wouldn't be bronze.
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>>172856738
Yeah, I know.

>Li-Ming is now classified as "Medium" down from "Hard"
>Abathur tier win rate until Masters

>>172856795
Sure, but the same could be said of pretty much any Hero.
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>>172856839
>stealth players
Shitter players*

Even though those words might as well be synonymical.
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>>172856795
this is a fucking retarded argument
>well if a master's player were playing X hero against bronzies...
no fucking shit
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>>172848218
They have Anub's WC3 voice actor in HotS. Why the fuck isn't he voicing him?
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>>172856920
>>172856995
Good luck climbing out of bronze with a support hero
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>>172857347
why the fuck would you even pick a support hero in Bronze to begin with?

all those faggots who say "well i'm a support main" are literal mouth breathing retards who don't have a fucking backbone. you can crawl out of bronze by just spamming games as a warrior and learning how to tank well.
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>>172857347
>dude I gotta carry these shitters

Only works when you're better.

If you're genuinely Bronze you're only hurting yourself trying to play Li-Ming, Alarak and Valeera.
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>>172857491
I've been doing well with Kharazim. Maybe not carrying, but I have been outhealing other supports consistently.
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>>172854809
because people dont know how to ban
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>>172854809
Why is Valeera getting banned?
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>>172857818
>but I have been outhealing other supports consistently.
this literally means nothing other than "i have big numbers"

if it's been working for you, congrats
but learn what metrics are actually important and useful to pay attention to and what metrics aren't

"i heal more than the other support" means nothing useful
>maybe your team is shit
>maybe you've been doing literally nothing but staying back and healing
>maybe your team is fighting against a poke comp
>maybe your tank is retarded and keeps facetanking too much damage
>maybe you're playing malf who naturally gets bigger heal numbers
etc. etc.
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>>172857948
People actually think she is invisible in bronze.
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>>172847032
It blinds his magic sight
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>>172858093
She is invisible and can't be killed
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>>172859786
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>>172860207

someone post the illidan one
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>>172861032
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So I downloaded the 2.0 Beta mostly to look at the store and skin prices.
Most of the ones I like cost 100 shards to create. How common or difficult to get are shards?
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>>172861493

Harder to get if you own no skins or heroes. The more stuff you own, the more likely you are to get shards from duplicates.
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>>172861693
I see.
So I guess a good plan would be to buy as many heroes as I can between now and April 25 but continue to play only my highest level ones.
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Who do I go to to complain about this?
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>>172862175
r/heroesofthestorm
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>>172861493
>>172861970
It's good for you that you like the shittier skins as they'll be not only cheaper but a heck ton more common, especially the 'rare' quality skins. Shards are gotten from dupes, so basically you should be buying a shit ton of 10K heroes which would get you 400 shards each.
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>>172861970
Don't buy any heroes until you know which ones we get for free from the upcoming event. I think it will start on the same day the 2.0 patch hits
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>voice lines
>emojis
>banners
>sprays

All this useless shit. Seriously, sprays in a fucking MOBA? Emojis that you realistically won't lose unless you're one of those retards who types in chat all game. Fuck off, Blizzard.
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>>172862734
Basically anyone who doesn't own all the heroes shouldn't open any crates until they have them, and also shouldn't buy any heroes until we know what the rewards for NC2.0 will be.
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>>172862734
Well when does 2.0 hit then?
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>>172863213
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/
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>>172862975
sprays would be cool if you could place one for the whole match and move it if you wanted but currently it dissapears after two seconds which makes it worthless
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>>172862734
"Details unlock 25th"

Doesn't mean the event starts on 25th, just like how the new hero (and map) wont be coming on the17th.
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>>172862734
>until you know which ones we get for free from the upcoming event.

Doesn't that event involve playing Hearthstone?
Not sure I want to do that.

Unless I'm mistaken of course, I was not around for the first Nexus Challenge.
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>>172828813
he's a book character
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>>172864003
No, we don't have to play Hearthstone, we're trying to get the fantastic HS audience as they're coming for their free portrait hero.
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>>172863674
You will still want to wait to see what's coming before buying heroes
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>>172864003
The first Nexus Challenge simply involved playing 30 games with a friend. It offered in-game rewards in both Overwatch and Hots.

If there is a Hearthstone promotion they might just be giving out Valeera, Jaina, Uther, etc. We'll see. I don't know how Cardstone works, but I'm pretty sure you won't have to play it.

>>172864541
Yeah, this. Imagine how sucky it'd be to spend 10-30k on Heroes only to have everybody else get them for free.
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>>172865572
>these numbers

What map?
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>>172865572
>le suicide bomber illidonger

>>172865680
Going off the commendation Nova got I'm going to say Dragon Shire.
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>>172865572
How does this even happen? I've had long DS matches before but thus is obscene.
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>>172865680
Dragon Shire.
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>>172865572
How high were your voodoo stacks by the end of it?
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>>172865680
>>172865887

dragon shire

my team just kept getting caught, couldn't end

azmodan went meme beam build which was funny
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>>172865887
>no tanks
>no healers
>all that poke

I had a forty minute game after accidentally queuing for Quick Match right after Ragnaros came out.
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>>172865572
and this is why you get taste for blood boys
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>>172866035
don't remember exact number but over 1000 bonus health
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>>172862376
>buying a shit ton of 10K heroes which would get you 400 shards each.

How much do 7k and 4k heroes give?
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>>172866661
80 and 40, not worth it at all.
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Nobody should be getting mad about them giving away mastery skins tints. Most of them are gaudy or uninspired shit that deserves to be treaten as trash. Base skin recolors are where its at.
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>>172866719
Well shit, that IS pretty low.
Are those the amounts you can get when you get shards directly from loot crates? 400, 80 and 40?
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>>172866970
I checked, the amounts are actually 400, 100, 40 and 10. My bad. Crafting costs are directly 4 times higher for legendary skins and 10 times for the others.
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>>172867189
5 shards for emojis and other useless shit like that
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>A guy just gave me shit for not banning Valeera
Funny, could I have sworn that I was in Silver league not bronze.
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>>172867412
Silver league is the same shit.
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>tfw Plat is just less noob bronze league
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>>172867814
>Muted
>Complaining
Classic.
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>>172867814
Odd. Definitely seems like you would've gotten it.
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I miss old gargantuan, he would push lanes and shit
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>>172867814
>bitching about pointless shit

Gee, I wonder why you're muted.
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>>172867992
are you kidding me?
i got somewhere a vid where he chases me for like 1 min while his owner is doing some mercs alone
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legit didn't know this was a thing
pretty cool
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>>172867814
Dragon shire is about the objectives, I bet you didn't take the DK once.
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>>172867893
>>172868046
>blizzard's silencing system is perfect, it fairly and accurately silences people based on behavior!
Thank you, 100 shards have been deposited into your account!

>>172869036
was inside the DK twice
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>>172867814
>reddit

i liked you until now. FUCK OFF
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>>172867767
if you are trying to find a magical realm where nobody makes mistakes anymore

im sorry pal
nobody can find that heaven
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>>172869595
>>was inside the DK twice
>taking DK as the healer
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Who is a good nuker mage?
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>>172870115
Well, it's Auriel, she's surely pretty good at it
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>>172870116
according to blizz
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>>172870323
Nuclear launch detected
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>>172870323
Really though
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>>172867412
It's hots, everyone is complete garbage at mobas until GM, silver is just as awful as bronze.
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>>172869595
>>blizzard's silencing system is perfect, it fairly and accurately silences people based on behavior!
>Thank you, 100 shards have been deposited into your account!
Kinda proving our point here.
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>>172871195
the silence system is fine, I havent been silenced once and I have 4k games and regularly say stupid shit, but I never go into full on flamer/rager mode.
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>>172871195

>everyone who disagrees with me is a blizzdrone

laffin at u
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What is the best skin in the game?
And why is it femdiablo?
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>>172871503
>be cunt
>get reported
>they stack up
>receive silence

That's how the system works, right?
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>>172870116
Come one, someone please!
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>>172871503
This dumb blizzdrone can't even reply to the right post.
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>>172871604
Because monster girls are da best
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>>172871446
OP here, this is exactly what I'm saying. The worst thing I do regularly is tell people they're an idiot if they pick a hero into multiple counters, or if they first pick Nova/Murky/something else ridiculous. I can remember maybe one or two times in 2 years of playing where I had to turn on allied chat and flame somebody.
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>>172871604
they kinda made diablo 4 impossible didnt they
with the writing
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>>172870116
Real answer is Chromie but don't play that cancerous garbage
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>>172871924
Nah. Maltheal, through being a jackass, released Diablo into the world once again.
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>>172871924
they made diablo 3 impossible with the writing and it still happened
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>>172871924
They'll cone up with something.
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>>172872098
>>172872106
>>172872110
yeah but diablo is not even big deal anymore
the nephelem are like super gods now
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>>172872076
How is Chromie cancerous?
She does lots of damage but she has to actually work for it.
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>>172871604
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>>172871906
I know this might come as a shock Anon but if you act like a cunt anywhere outside of 4chan there are usually repercussions.
>>
Master player here

seen a few posts complaining bout Valeera and I am going to weigh in on this topic

Valeera is not overpowered or ban worthy in ranked almost ever
Tanks with lots of aoe like Arthas and Sonya shut her down very easily and highly mobile characters also with lots of Aoe like Li Ming stop her from ever engaging in team fights
also Tassadar just ruins her but tassadar is already one of the best herores in the game and is probably banned in every high level game anyway

however

she is so stupidly disgusting in QM I could see nerfing her for that reason alone
she is a lot like Cho'Gall
if you don't have the dedicated counters to her then you lose and she is allowed to 1v5 and always escape any engagement no matter how outnumbered or how bad a position she was in

honestly I wouldn't mind seeing them drop her health and buff her cloak of shadows ult
either way though if you are tired of losing to Valeera in QM just play Arthas every single game or get a friend and play nothing but Cho'Gall and enjoy your free 90% winrate
too bad its QM and doesn't fucking matter
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>>172872302
Yeah, at the end of the D3 expansion seemed like the nephelem might be the new threat.
>>
what do i take at 7 and 16 for cassia? is it movement speed and pierce?
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>>172871446
To get silenced you literally have to "cross the line" aka go full-on "kill yourself retard".
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>>172849079
>>172849386
>>172849709
Tyrande and Malf are both functional and get picked in higher league play.
They said previously that while yeah some of those talents should be changed, either for fluff reasons or just to prune unnecessary shit, they prioritize heroes who don't get picked over ones that function but aren't pretty in design.

Leoric they also confirmed as not getting a rework, but rather some number tweaking.
Which they just started doing in the last patch.

Alarak they did say needed more talent diversity though.
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>>172873148
Alarak's talents were a neat, failed experiment
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>>172849079
They said that Tyrande is getting her rework after Uther so it should be pretty soon. She desperately needs it.
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>win 7/10 HL placement matches
>placed in silver 1
h-haha ;_;
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>>172874256
That's what you get for having shit MMR
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>personal rank adjustment -17
Rude.
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>>172874362
where do I check my mmr?
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>>172873907

If the Uther rework is anything to go by she will be playable again. I hope they buff her damage spec so you can play her as an assassin.
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>>172873907
Tyrande is like the Mercy of HotS; they just whore her out to sell skins but they will never actually make her good.

Incidentally, Mercy in HotS when?
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>>172874534
The game already has Starcraft Mercy
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>>172874534
She was good a little over a year ago, but yeah she is pretty terrible right now after her nerfs and being powercreeped out of play. Hopefully the rework will give her options.
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>>172829375
>tfw even HotS pays a better tribute to the Diablo franchise than the D3 dev team
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>>172874519
She should be like Kharazim, a support who can be an assassin
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>>172873148
>They said previously that while yeah some of those talents should be changed, either for fluff reasons or just to prune unnecessary shit, they prioritize heroes who don't get picked over ones that function but aren't pretty in design.

So who's left ? Raynor Nova and Zagara ?
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>>172874534
Probably not for a while.
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>>172874851
She was really like the first multiclass hero, she had damage options and healing options, none where like very good but they were there. Right now she isn't much of a healer and her damage is pretty low, they should just give her more damage and probably keep her healing shit. The problem with a tyrande support is she doesn't really have a support ult that can save people, that and her terribly low healing.
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>>172847415
This looks like a fucking alpha version character. They didn't even bother updating those low res textures on most of the old skins like that chainsaw Stitches.
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>>172875147
her stealth ult should make allies unrevealable for like 1 second and a half, right now the stealth component is useless
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>>172875273
The helmet looks like it came from runescape
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>>172874498
You can't because Blizzard decided it would confuse you
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>>172872605
>blizzard should silence people who dare question my hero or talent choices
Do snowflakes like you really exist in my ranked games?
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So they're not going to just drop all 3 heroes when 2.0 launches are they?

Cassia is next week, r-right?
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>>172875595
what did you mean by this
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>>172875814
The contrary would be surprising
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>>172875882
That things like MMR and W/L ratios confuse blizzdrones
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>The only interesting heroes in Overwatch are bastion and Reinhardt
>They put worthless shit in the hero roster instead
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>>172871604
i want femdiablo to BRAAAP on me
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>>172876329
I like Tracer desu, and I don't even play OW.

She has a good fantasy / design about her.
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>>172876329
>bastion
Hammer exists
>reinhardt
Probably a pain in the ass to code the shield
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>>172876329
>bastion
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>>172876458
I'd totally have her and Widowmaker dress me up and make me her lezboi sissy slave together.
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>>172876329
>Subtank with excellent damage and support capabilities
>uninteresting

>Make your entire team go really fucking fast
>not interesting

>capability of chasing down almost every hero in the roster and being a complete menace to enemy backline
>worthless shit

I agree we need a Reinhardt and most Tracer pickers are worse than the average Raytard, but these heroes have done nothing wrong.
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>>172875147
Her trait is still one of the most useful and dangerous in the game
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>>172871604
im a bit biased but i think female goblins in warcraft are adorable
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>>172871924
They could go with diablo 0: apocaliptic boogaloo
You play as ye olde horadrim or some shit
Or make you fight in the eternal conflict thing, with either angels or devils
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>ywn pwn nubs as garithos using his terran dominion skin

why even live
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>>172878598
>pwn
>nubs
>garithos

reddit pls go
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>>172878695
>being this new
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>>172879169
>liking reddit
>liking 4chan
pick none, newegg
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>Have a shitload of gems
>Can't buy skins with them even though it's the one currency that costs real money
>Can't buy them with gold either and I already have all the heroes I want, so it's virtually useless
>Have to get lucky in loot boxes to get the shards I need
Is this necessary?
>>
Is Medivh a very skill intensive hero or is he just bad?
I have never seen him do much in a game but I haven't played him myself yet.
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>>172879767
They're avoiding it being "necessary" on paper by putting a couple of skins up for purchase with gems every week or so.
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I want to BREED Diablo!
>>
HOW do i play rexxar
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I want Femablo and every single other demon and animal to BREED CUTE Sorcress!

W H E N
H
E
N
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>>172880187
Never you nerd, go play a different game
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>>172879914
You got it wrong, you don't breed Diablo

Diablo breeds you
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>>172880140
You Q the wave.
If you're unsafe or don't see enemies you stay mounted at your gate and soak with your bear. If you're super unsafe you stay in your fort and bodysoak with your bear.

You harass with misha/cap shit while you're pushing the wave if 1:1.

Teamfights you either stick your bear on backline and harass them with stuns or if the enemy team has shown to kill your bear easily you stick it to frontline and stun the shit out of them.

You don't have to always aa with Rexxar during tfs. It's ok to afk with him in backline and just micro your bear in supertense situations as long as rexxar is safe.
Talents are all over the place. Q on 1, hungry bear if braxis/dragon shire the block talent else or if no shit to block then the regen one.

If they have strong frontline and your bear dies easily you go q on 7 and 13
If your bear is a-ok you go w on 7 and 13
10 rage if bear can stick on backline or theres squishy frontline on them, boars if not
16 feign if you have to dodge heavyhitting shit, imposing if you dont but still need a defensive talent+added cc and thrill of the hunt whenever you dont need either (rare)
20 you can go anything, boarupgrade, frenzy and hardened all viable

Hell I don't even know, he had a great talent tree before the update and its still great now

Just play him lots. He's fuck af and with practice you get gud. Super heigh skill ceiling. Stutterstepping on Rexxar + bodyblocking on misha 4hard
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I want SONYA and DIABLO to fight each other for dominance!
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Is there a harder choice to make in the game then this one?
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>Literally the only skin I want in 2.0 is FemDiablo
>I've wanted FemDiablo since the game launched
I'm not going to get it in chests, am I, lads?


Unrelated
>Pick Zul'Jin
>Enemy has Varian
>He goes Twin Blades
>I can NEVER EVER hit him without getting memed on and my team ignores him because "lol he does no damage".
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>>172880187
But Anon, we already have a cute Sorceress.
From Diablo too.
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Where does Cassia rank on the Hots waifu tier list?
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>>172881141
No. Pick the top one. If you're healing consistently, you'll get lots of big burst heals
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>>172881345
probabaly middle, no ass meh breast
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>>172881315
Wizards and Sorcerers use 2 different disciplines of magic. Same with Mystics and Enchantresses.
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>>172881315
Yeah, well she's a cheap trashy worn-out whore.

And not the classy kind like sorcress qt
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>>172881409
she has the largest tits in the game, maybe rivaled by tyrande or sonya
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Do you have gold/gems/loot boxes on the beta server when you log in?
I don't really want to play on it, just check the loot system
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>>172881457
DO NOT TALK ABOUT AZULA LIKE THAT
DELET THIS NOW
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>>172881519
only if you've played on ptr before, or have leveled heroes there
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>>172881519
They hand out quests that gives like 2k gems.
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>Probius
>Every game is full of autismos who'd rather lane than team up for objectives
>Needless segregation of skins and currency
>No actual improvements to the game itself
>No Fenix
>No KT
>No Stukov
>No Mengsk
>A fucking chink made better content for april fools than they did real content since Alarak launch
Hopefully for good this time.
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>>172881687
That's most likely getting lowered in the Live version though, right?
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>>172881375
You say pick top one, but say that you have a Tracer and Illidan on your team

Do you really want more energy? 20% increased attack speed is juicy and is really going to shift the team fights in your favour.

How about if you have a Nazeebo, a mage and Butcher. What then?
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post cassia build?
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>>172881345
I love Grandmazon
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>>172881780
Definitely.
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>>172881141
Why isn't this a picture of Kharazim's tier 16?
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>>172881867
Anon, this is a blue board.

Sauce?
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>>172881517
>largest
They only look large because the armour pushes them up
>>172881457
Li-Ming is cute!
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>>172881838
In the first situation it depends entirely on the enemy team. If they've got quite a few stuns, I still pick the top because we'll probably need the healing regardless.

In the second, I pick the healing to help the Butcher keep butching when he inevitably gets out-fucking-skilled.
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>>172882010
noill you horny pig jeeze
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>>172881780
They said the quests are PTR only. We might get some gem quests on live but they probably won't give anywhere near as many gems
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>>172882146
Noill and Subtank are not the same person.
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>>172881073
Here is hopping that Sparrow makes a sequel where Diablo has turned the tables on barbarian.
>>172882087
By level 16 a fully charged energy bar will heal most of your team, the speed will help them fill it faster.

In the second scenario an 10% damage increase will help them kill faster and increase the bar. This stacks especially well with Guldan if he has Hunger for Power.
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With the 2.0 update coming, is there a point for me to play until it comes? My highest leveled character is 6, and my current level is 15.
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>>172882510
Thanks for correcting anon >>172882010
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>>172882809
>is there a point for me to play until it comes?
No
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>>172882809
Im just playing on 2.0 un till it comes out
gotta train that emoji spam and spray bm
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>>172882809
There's no point to even play it anymore.
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HotS 2.0endgame 'bout to be stylin'onand playayou best believe my gamewill be on fleek
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>>172839961
Have you been there? If you can go to sc2g and find a post about the game I will be surprised.
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>>172881430
I thought Wizards just caused themselves that because they were the rebellious teenagers of mages.
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>>172884419
different disciplines mane
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>>172884419
think of it as same uni, different majors.
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>>172884331
>>172844403
literally first post
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>>172882917
>>172882809
Only to get gold. Brawls and AI quests or games with lvl 20 heroes. You do NOT want to get xp.
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>>172884852
I am actually impressed. The last time I went there there was literally 300 posts of "I'm tired", "I think I am going to watch Netflix", etc. Not even joking, not one single post about the game.
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>>172881867
i love you anon
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>from 0 to 33 hero levels on the PTR
why am i doing this
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>>172885860
play live and get to 400 hero level if you havent m8
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>>172885860
I quit after 1ai and 1 qm game.
How can you do it anon.
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>>172886039
im somewhere around 310-330 iirc, why should i do that though? dont i lose out on a lot of gibsmedats?
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hey /hotsg/
what is your ultimate shame ?
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repeat after me

worst

brawl

ever
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>>172886230
>loving AI games this much
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>>172886039

399 hero level right now, what i get to 400?
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>>172886318
Don't.
You'll likely be over 400 anyways, you don't want to be though.
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>>172886230
I think maybe I just suck at this game
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>>172886309
i just afk in VS AI to get my dailies done

that 1 loss was my first game on ToD, no one knew wtf to do and we lost after 31 minutes
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Imagine how much fucking time would opening 70 boxes take, especially on their shitty servers.
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>>172886906
Don't worry, nobody's gonna get 70 boxes. I'm barely getting over 55 after 2 and a half years of playing.
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>>172887971
what's your hero level on live?
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>>172886306
You cant dunk bro
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>>172886906
I'm so happy blizzard is sparing us the pain of opening hundreds of chests!
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>>172888274
Wouldn't it be better if they just gave us shards to cut out the middleman?
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>>172886230
That I have nearly 5000 games played, about 90% of which are Training or Vs. AI.
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>>172888167
380
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>>172889387
holy fuck anon
ultimate omega autism

please seek help

i'm not even kidding
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Multiclass was a mistake
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>>172889294
>being able to just get the things you want

wow such fucking entitlement
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>>172889387
>>172886230
absolutely disgusting
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>>172888274
I saw someone say the same thing on Reddit, except he wasn't joking
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>>172889907
>be 11PM at night
>just got done serving lunch/happy hour bartending
>boot up HOTS
>just want to play a few games, get some daily ticks off
>play a mage
>first game: enemy team: Varian (taunt) Valeera
>second game: Varian (taunt) Zeratul
>third game: Varian (taunt) Valeera
>never have a tank on my team
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>>172889870
Eh, most of it was done semi-AFK on the second monitor.

Or fully AFK on Abathur.

>>172889907
It seems like a pain to balance. Also a bit pointless. Perhaps they couldn't think of another gimmick.
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It is I gucci king of the bronze 5 bronzies. When is our overlord senjinn going to get back from his meth fueled binge?
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>>172889907
Multiclass is fine.
It's only downside is that it fucks QM, but QM was never meant to be balanced in the first place.
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>>172890868
when superman is added to the game
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>>172893192
Fall of this year
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>>172893192
>>172893307
anyone have that Superman leak? the eradicator / 90s one?
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What Heroic should I pick for Kael'thas?
Phoenix seems kinda shit unless my enemies are somehow trapped and unable to walk away.
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>>172894937

Phoenix for zoning enemies out of an area, Pyro only on targets that cannot evade or mitigate it.
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>>172894937
phoenix is still pretty good for zoning
fireball is meh
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>>172894937
Phoenix is usually the go-to, safe and versatile pick.

Pyroblast can most definitely 1-shot somebody, but there's often something to stop it. Even then it's possible to wait for the counters to be use then pop it on Tyrande.

Or something.

At last check there's just a lot of abilities that fuck up the Pyro. Li-Ming and Zeratul E, for instance.
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Wait, who am I safe to level up again? I have Raynor at level 11 and he's my favorite to play but I don't want to miss out on looties.

I know I already missed out on his hero specific chest. Fuck.
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>>172895142
level everyone to at least 8-9

9 if you want the 750g for rerolls
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>>172895142
Play only raynor for 3 weeks
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if i play 2.0 do i keep the shit i get there when it's actually live
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>>172895873
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>>172896708
no
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>>172893959
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>>172896708
naw, it's a 3 week beta test. if you're a newb then just pick up the game in the second week of May.
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>>172896968
I hope it;s this Eradicator and not the other 1 that is fucking dull
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>>172895138
>At last check there's just a lot of abilities that fuck up the Pyro. Li-Ming and Zeratul E, for instance.

Just played a game last night. ETC fucking Stage Dived away right when it was hitting him.
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>>172897735
That's hilarious.

Yeah, there are just so many things that'll mess it up. Great to see it connect with somebody incapable of mitigating the damage, though

>>172896708
No, I don't think so.
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>>172896968
So based on this the
Q would have to be a short root ala Uther's stun duration
W a highly telegraphed but potent wave clear / linear damage ability similar to Uther's heal ability that shoots out
>E a short dash ability that is basically Artanis' old ability
Nice
Basic ability pretty weak/balanced
>but
>R1/R2 are fucking god tier ults
>Trait:D is fucking nice as well

I'd welcome this, the game needs more solid TF-altering warriors.
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Is Kerrigan good right now? It's not fair that she gets 90% of the good skins in the game
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>>172898258
No she's not good
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This fucking Brawl, man.
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>>172898258
Not until they give her a Heroic ability
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>>172897735
>>172897842

Found the replay. Had to record it.
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>>172899165
kek
that looked cartoony as fuck, pic related
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>>172899165
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>>172899165
>cyberpunk kt
Every time
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>>172895142
Do the opposite of >>172895707
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>>172899165
>>172899839

Ayy
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>>172881457
that looks nothing like li-ming, she has big lips and thick eyebrows
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>>172881457
i fucking hate this retarded babyface bullshit that artists do with the females they draw
>oh i'm so delicate and my face is so sensitive i can't show expressions, i just need to stare off into the distance and slightly open my mouth
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>>172889387
Why though...
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>>172902101
could be that the artist was trying to draw the d3 sorceress and not li ming specifically
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>>172902496
>Hero level 5 gold
>Hero level 9 gold
>Dailies

Again, it was more or less just something running in the background. Either on another monitor or computer. Efficiency, or something. I don't know.
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>>172904071
>do thousands of training and ai matches
>get buttfucked by blizzard
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>>172872547
>>172881867
>>172882471
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>>172904153
Once again idlers ruining things for everyone else
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>>172904153
Mhm. When I wasn't on Abathur I'd just tab in and out to avoid being flagged AFK. Sort of assumed they would come back and remove levels acquired via AFK training, but never did.

Curious to see how this Hots 2.0 thing works out, even if it...doesn't really look to be changing the game, oddly.

>also reposting this, not sure how much of this is actually correct
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>>172899165
Im not even mad
That's fucking amazing
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>>172872723

Of course humans would never be assholes...

And the lords of hell wouldn't try to corrupt or devour powerful humans, no way.
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>>172904578
Alarak does not win lane against Arthas, Rag or Rexxar.
Rexxar loses against Sonya.
Leoric gets destroyed by Sonya.
Leoric loses against Chen slightly.
Arthas against Thrall is heavily in favour of Arthas.
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>>172904578
>>172905534
Also Leoric with block wins hard against Thrall
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>>172904578
>>172905534
>>172905646
Also also
Rexxar loses against Illidan
Arthas wins against Rexxar
Dehaka wins against Rexxar
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I'm new to this game. What are the benefits of playing against AI in higher difficulty (elite, veteran)?
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>>172906370
There is none
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>>172906370
Technically they can potentially be worth more exp. The amount of account/hero experience you gain scales with the amount of expereince you gain in-game, and so the more minions, heroes, and structures you kill/destroy, the more exp you'll get. Playing on the hardest as opposed to the easiest difficulty means the AI is better at staying alive and generally won't be as easy to steamroll, thus the game goes on longer, and because of that you get more experience.

So indirectly, the benefit to playing on highest difficulty is more experience. Other than that, nothing.
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>>172856995
the point isn't that you're comparing gold to shit
it's reiterating the fact that when you want a stealth assassin the only one who stands out in a teamfight has to be zeratul
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>>172906370
What, like experience and gold? No.

The amount of experience you get from a match increases the longer you're in it, though, and more difficult bots usually take more time.

>>172906769
>three people stack up
>Jaina about to land full combo
>Zeratul void prisons them
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>>172906895
>Zeratul void prisons them
i got mad from reading that
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>>172872607
Honestly playing in QM I figure especially for new people you should ask yourself a few questions
>who's free
>does that free person get fucked by [lesealclubberpickhere]
>pick tank who can't be fucked by said sealclubber
>pick support who can unfuck the seals (i.e. not lieutenant "stimpack a pub so they leave you to die at mach speeds" morales)
>pick alarak because fuck trusting your support to heal you in QM
>don't pick sgt hammer unless you're in a party
and at that point it's 100% up to the QM gods

Also I didn't want to believe it but why do SAmericans
a)blame
b)never communicate, even with each other
c)get lopped into the same Q/server as the north americans

>
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>>172906967
>>172906895
on the flipside, I had a zeratul on my team do that for me, saving me from getting turbo dickled by a similar nuke
Wouldn't want to gamble with top tier-gameplay and creativeness sure, but it was pleasant
>>
So what is the main flavor of this game? Heroes are too expensive for ranked matches. Am I to grind against AI for a long time?
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>>172908335
you only need to level up a hero to Level 5 in order to use them for Hero League games

you only need to buy a hero with Gold if you want to explicitly play that hero in Quick Match or VS AI
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>>172908441
>Hero League games

What if I only own one hero?
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>>172908609
iirc, you need to unlock like 14(?)
you don't need to own any of them, just level them up to 5 (this includes heroes on free rotation that you level up to 5)

i think, it's been a while since Blizzard changed the requirements
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>>172908335
>new rotation
>new heroes
>new options to get to level 5
>ideally if you've played enough cancerous matches that weren't vsAI and haven't quit the game in frustration you get a feel for roles, flow, and objectives
That is of course unless you're one of those titty ticklers who shit talks other players for being new, has 2xxx games played, and somehow still manages to have less games played as specialist/support/warrior combined than you do assassin
>chucklefucks who 'main' assassin who somehow still jump in like they've got some suicidal order ordained from Allah
And after >500 games, they just don't learn
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>>172908335
Protip, don't hurry into HL. Play enough QM that you know pretty much every hero and find some heroes in every role that you like and are good with. You don't want to end up in bronze in HL and having to climb your way up. If you play well in QM you will get diamond 3 as your rank since it uses your QM MMR as a baseline for your first HL placement match
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>Start playing with the lads
>Do good
>They throw half-way in 3 level up
>Every game
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Should we make predictions on what they may change if anything?
>>
I SHALL NOT RETURN TO THAT PRISON!

NOOOOOOOOOOO!
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>>172912078
Well for one they won't fucking overhaul the reconnection system because that would actually be meaningful
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>>172912407
>Hots 2.0
>except we aren't changing the actual game
>it's just a bunch of cosmetic stuff

I really hope they announce something of significance.
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>>172912572
Why would they change the game?
It's fun as it is.
HotS 2.0 is a bunch of quality of life improvements, nothing wrong with that.
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>>172913121
>bunch of quality of life improvements
except for, you know, fucking reconnection limbo
Otherwise I think OW's non-P2W stuff is good and gives people with income
a) an excuse to throw their money at blizzard
and people who play alot but have lots of disposable ingame currency to
b) burn that currency

This is ofc coming out of the fingers of someone who has no idea if the triple currency numbers are completely and utterly shit
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>>172913238
>fucking reconnection limbo


Fair enough, that thing is pretty shit.
Have they at least mentioned something about that?
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>>172913121
and as an addendum I think each player should get 1 ban
Considering there are chucklefucks who literally don't ban, enabling more of the hero pool which, while fine for me, seems to demoralize the shit out of people who can't handle shit like
>muh valeera
I still feel I need to ban lucio if no one on my team is going to pick him
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>>172913397
If they have, I sure as fuck haven't seen it
>google this exact problem
>people from the beta-era say Blizzard will fix it when the game comes out of beta
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>>172913443
>Lucio is mandatory in both the games he is in

Fucking Blizzard man, I swear.
He took away Brightwing's job and that makes me sad.
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>>172913726
Lucio isn't that mandatory, he only works well if the comp allows it or if the teams knows how to play with it.

Brightwing can still do things fine. Polymorph is great.
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>>172913726
I still have a soft spot for brightwing because brightwing can still push/soak XP as an option
4 fucking seconds of 75% armor is fucking insane
And I don't need to expend mana on healing
>when you never get more healing than the enemy healer because you're too busy preventing most of it
>>
What does Alarak need to be good?

His survivability definitely needs a buff. Maybe giving him some kind of shield generation since every other Protoss hero has access to shields. My first thought was to have all bonus damage done with Sadism would generate shields, though that would be a little too much like Kerrigan.
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>>172915590
>Maybe giving him some kind of shield generation since every other Protoss hero has access to shields

That is HARDLY the Tal'darim way.

What he needs his talents that aren't trash. Most of his lightning talents are complete trash,

And it was an interesting idea, but rarely will you have enough heroes in a straight line for lightning to be useful as it.
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>have a lot of fun with Kael'thas and Living Bomb
>most of that fun comes from the level 20 talent that makes it spread indefinitely
>by that point the game is basically over

You know, sometimes I do wish that games in HotS lasted forever like in other MOBAs.
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>>172916865
How about a brawl where everyone starts off at level 20?
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>>172916865
>No brawl where you start at level 20 and have small respawn timers
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>>172917339
>>172917371
That sounds like it could be potentially really fun tbqh

I've only played the game for like a month, has there ever been such a thing?
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>Solo lane match-ups by some tyoma dude (grandmaster)
>notice no specialists in the solo lane

Green = good, yellow = same, red = not that favorable
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>>172917864
They haven't really drifted away from the usual, brawls have mostly just been different kind of drafts or hero pools.
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>>172916865
>Raynor
>finish Seasoned Marksman
>Nexus Frenzy
>win game-ending tf a minute later

Makes me wish games lasted...just a bit longer.
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>>172918073
>Chen
>Many goods
Uhhh
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>>172918184
no stun, no chen kill.
simple as that.
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>>172918404
displacements and silences work too.
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>>172900879
why tho?
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>Help defend our logo on R/place against 4chan!
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>>172919013
wat
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eP-fa9y_7vP5XXqxE7lg5DyelvHJObGiPU0Epypfs8s/edit#gid=0


;_;


y blizz?
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>>172919679
I"m am not doing all that shit. I'm just going to accept my shit lootboxes like a cuck/Blizzdrone
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>>172919679
NICE
VIRUS
KID
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>>172919947
It's pretty quick. I have 485 hero level and will only get 65 fucking crates... kek
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>When you position just right as Zul'jin and obliterate the enemy team.

TAZ'DINGO!

Is there a better feeling, lads?
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>>172919679
>>172920219
Just use this link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eP-fa9y_7vP5XXqxE7lg5DyelvHJObGiPU0Epypfs8s/copy
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>>172920368
yeah, them adding WoW zul'jin skin to 2.0
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>>172920423
It's only good if it has the WC2 palette as a colour option, though.
Would he throw tonfas?
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>>172920423
>at level 10 he regenerates his arm back
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>>172920219
The amount of boxes should really be literally doubled.
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>>172920516
Naw, he would throw tomahawks (slimmer than what he throws as base/master skin)

his tonfas he throws for his W :3
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Is there a streamer who plays this that isn't obnoxious as fuck? I need something to watch while I sit around being a useless piece of shit.
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>>172921075
Grubby !
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>just want to play regular games
>quick match is an objectively bad mode
>unranked draft is just hero league rules but with an even smaller, terminally autistic community

Quick Match was a huge mistake, they can't even get rid of it at this point and there's nothing you can do to fix it.

>inb4 "muh convenience"
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>>172899165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUL5w91dzbo
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>>172921590
QM's only problem is retards like you and the fact that HotS is a dead game so the MM pool is shit.
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>>172924228
Genji was leaked days ago along with the new overwatch map, this is the first image of him.
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>>172924228
what the fuck is this supposed to be?
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So new player here, I want to try Azmodan cause he seems like an interesting character.
How do I play Mr. giant enemy crab?
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>>172924404
build stacks
push
dont get ganked
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Reminder:
1 level = common lootbox
5 levels = rare lootbox
25 levels = epic lootbox

min/max autism list:

Levels 1-5: do play but do not level up.
Level 6: safe to play.
Level 7: do not cross threshholds at 500k xp and 1300k xp.
Level 8, below 1775k xp: do not cross threshholds at 775k xp and 1775k xp.
Level 8, above 1775k xp: do level up to 9.
Level 9: cross threshhold at 4425k xp only if you intend to buy the master skin by April 24.
Level 10: safe to play, more or less.
Level 11: do not cross threshhold at 425k xp.
Level 12: do not cross threshhold at 1175k xp.
Level 13: do not cross threshhold at 1925k xp.
Level 14, below 2675k xp: cross this threshhold only if you can reach level 15 by April 24.
Level 14, above 2675k xp: do level up to 15.
Level 15: do not cross threshhold at 3425k xp.
Level 16: do not cross threshhold at 4175k xp.
Level 17: safe to play, more or less.
Level 18: do not cross threshhold at 175k xp.
Level 19, below 925k xp: cross this threshhold only if you can reach level 20 by April 24.
Level 19, above 925k xp: do level up to 20.
Level 20: safe to play.
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>>172924404
>Q is pretty weak early, especially if you don't talent for it
>W costs a lot of mana until 4, try to avoid spamming too much until then
>you can E a tower, fort or keep and move out of it's attack range (sort of like Hammer)
>ideally use D on a minion wave that won't be instantly cleared but try to keep it on CD
>look for waves that'll be uncontested (ie during objective)
>oh and don't miss Q early game if you take sieging
>don't take taste for blood

>>172924710
how
very
tedious
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>>172924710
fuck me the table got cut off.
here is the complete version.
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>>172924710
You forgot from your minmax autism list:

Old level 8 / new level 10 = One hero specific lootbox + common lootbox

The only level where you can actually gain two crates.
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>>172924404
Laser build is not good. Take Sieging Wrath if you're solo queuing, Taste for Blood if you have a party to help you stack.

Your demon lieutenants are great at pushing empty lanes, but they rely on nobody responding to them. Get good at aiming your dunk, the travel/cast time is hefty and needs to be compensated for.

You have next to no presence in a teamfight so it's better to keep your distance and throw balls at the enemy while pushing a nearby lane. You're team may yell at you for "being useless and doing nothing" though.

Your role as Azmodan is to push lanes while not even being close to them. Showing up on the enemy's map is a dangerous thing for you if they know what they're doing.
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>>172924350
>Genji

Why are they avoiding all of the fun Overwatch heroes?
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>>172924710
or... just use this spreadshit and have the math done for you:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eP-fa9y_7vP5XXqxE7lg5DyelvHJObGiPU0Epypfs8s/copy
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>>172924228
is that bigfoot ?
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>>172926123
did you even bother looking at the data provided?
your spreadshit tells me I get 90% of the veterans reward, my shit tells me which breakpoints I should avoid to get maximum profit from where I stand right now
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>>172925928
>McCreeee
D: Peacekeeper, (Active) Reload 6 bullets, auto attacks consume these, deals increased headshot damage on stationary targets
Q: Fan the hammer - Fire all the remaining shots rapidly, dealing increased damage to close targets
W: Combat roll - Moves you in the direction you're currently facing, refills your ammo
E: Flashbang - Stuns all targets in an area close to Mcree for 0.75 seconds
R: Deadeye - Reveals area in a large cone radius, marking targets for himself for up to 6 seconds, and on re-activation deals increasing percentual damage depending on the cast time to those remaining in the field of view
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>>172918184
As a chen player around that mmr, the chart is pretty accurate, assuming two players of equal skill.
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Pretty good I have to say
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>>172927597
>Literally the sjw hero
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>>172927860
>Amazon
What where you expecting?
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>>172928014
>Blizzard
Yes, what WAS I expecting? Glad there's no lesbian voice lines.
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>>172927597
why is she such a bitch to Muradin and TLV?
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>When matchmaking decides that three wins in one day was a little too much so it starts matching you with Novas and Valeeras against perfectly optimized teams
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>>172928196
Pretty sure they're just generic "I hate you" reactions, everyone has these sort of lines for heroes they don't really have anything to say to. The person who made it for some reason just picked them.

>>172927860
She's an Amazon from a civilization wherein women are the majority and rule accordingly. Like Wonder Woman, really. I wouldn't doubt the Amazon's lore being based on a mixture of Wonder Woman and Sheena, Queen of the Jungle. "SJW" my saggy balls.
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>>172921075
Grubby is the only option
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>>172928428
Sounds like the feminists dream of United States to me.
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>>172927392
>D: Peacekeeper, (Active) Reload 6 bullets, auto attacks consume these, deals increased headshot damage on stationary targets
Could work
>Q: Fan the hammer - Fire all the remaining shots rapidly, dealing increased damage to close targets
Point and click? fan shaped skillshot? You need to specify in youe design.
>W: Combat roll - Moves you in the direction you're currently facing, refills your ammo
The "in the direction you are facing" part is poor design. Make it a "skillshot" like Tychus' dash
>E: Flashbang - Stuns all targets in an area close to Mcree for 0.75 seconds
I'd make it a medium range skillshot with a small radius. Mcree should be a ranged assassin, if he's close in with the enemy, he's out of position.
>R: Deadeye - Reveals area in a large cone radius, marking targets for himself for up to 6 seconds, and on re-activation deals increasing percentual damage depending on the cast time to those remaining in the field of view
What's the % increase per second? What's the max damage potential?

Decent idea though.
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>guys we really dont want you to have all chat because it breeds toxicity like really bad its just lame be nice to each other!
>hey guys welcome to hots 2.0! where we have sprays and master taunts so you can really stick it to your enemies and be an obnoxious cunt when youre rolling over their dumb asses!

?
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This ugly motherfucker is pushing all your lanes, how do you react?
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>>172929259
All chats kind of gay but I don't know why they don't just include it and have it off by default.
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>>172929681
I'm'a gonna be too busy axe'in' 'im how he feels about bein' dead!

TAZ'DINGO!
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>>172928983
>Point and click? fan shaped skillshot? You need to specify in youe design.
Arthas D which is an instant basic attack, times up to 6.
>The "in the direction you are facing" part is poor design. Make it a "skillshot" like Tychus' dash
I wanted to differentiate it from other leaps like Vallas and Li Mings teleport, and meant that you'd have to be moving and he'd roll towards your last click, so you could do a short roll if you so wanted.
>I'd make it a medium range skillshot with a small radius. Mcree should be a ranged assassin, if he's close in with the enemy, he's out of position.
I imagined him as an assassin who likes staying at a distance and stun and punish anyone leaping at him like Kerrigan, but who can also dive in to use his flashbang up close and empty his weapon, roll-reload, and repeat for high single target damage.
>What's the % increase per second? What's the max damage potential?
I think it should be relatively high to punish anyone who sticks around for the max duration, around 10%+ from their total health a second. I decided it had to be percentual damage to avoid insta-wiping out a low health pool target from full health. I think it might have to start from a lower percentage like 4%/s and end at amounts similar to 20%/s, to avoid having him do unavoidable bursts of 30% damage on several targets because they have no time to react.
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>>172924228
Is that morales right of him?
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>>172929681
*teleports behind him*

"I will fulfill my calling."

*combo slashes them to death*

"No one escapes my wrath"
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>>172929681
*bam* you dead kiddo
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>>172929681
I push R and Lava wave one lane while I clear another, and my team takes the third.
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>>172927392
What about an R2.
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>>172930683
No idea, I didn't want to get creative and break his design.

A lasso to pull targets to your desired spot or root them in place where they are?
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I can't win
I just can't fucking win
I've been playing nonstop for four hours now and I haven't won a single game yet

The worst part is that every single game is a straight stomp too, it's never even remotely close to a toss-up.
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>>172931290
Yeah, man, it's the same game we're all playing

The question is, who is the one winning if everyone's losing?
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>>172931290
>t.nova main
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>2.0 giving me new invigoration to play my level 20 characters since EXP right now is meaningless
Haha! Time for BUTCHERY.
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>>172932025
>tfw going for level 100+ for one hero whilst other heroes are under 20
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>>172932121
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I love Zeratul, but it's so hard to do anything once people figure out how to group up and I can't jump on anyone without the whole team collapsing on me.

Is there anything I can do once they start deathballing or do I just accept that I can't do anything without dying for it?
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>>172871924
with this bullshit story malthael released all the souls contained in the soulstone, so now you can save Léah and have to kill again diablo, baal, mephisto, andariel, duriel, azmodan and belial.

>>172872106
Diablo 3 story was bullshit because they ignored the D2 story.
The soulstone of Mephisto, Diablo and Baal were destroy to banish them from the plan of humans, sending them to the abyss. The thing is that in the end the woldsoulstone had to be destroyed and it was supposed to change the world.
They could have used that to explain how the demons came back, make it easier to go from hell to human world, even to heaven...

>>172872302
nephalems were a mistake
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>>172932319
blink in, Q, and blink out is your best bet
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>>172932435
>They could have used that to explain how the demons came back, make it easier to go from hell to human world, even to heaven...

That was explained with Adria's mumbo jumbo
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>>172932319
W + W + aa + Q + aa + E the fuck out of there
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God I hope I either pull the Leahblo skin, or enough shards for it.
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>>172934209
Depending on how many heroes you own, shards don't seem all that difficult to collect. Duplicate heroes landed me an easy 800 out of only 11 or so boxes on PTR.
Just make all your hero purchases first.
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>>172934209
Those are some mighty powerful farting hips
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>>172934809
The Prime Evil doesn't fart, as women do not toot.
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>>172934929
This Prime Evil (Male) is a good looking lady indeed
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>>172935016
I'd breed that Lord of Terror.
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>>172933473
Adria and the black soulstone are precisely the reason I call the D3 story bullshit.
Tyrael human and cain dead too.
With femdiabo that actually mean we can get a tyrael human skin
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>>172935052
The Lady of terror breeds you
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>>172935273
Even better, I have a femdom kink.
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>>172935325
What you get is gaydom
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>>172935395
It's not gay if it's a female (male).
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>>172935443
What about male (male)?
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>>172935490
I'm not in to bara so D1/D2 Diablo is a no-go, sorry.
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>>172935247
>needs altered/replaced voicework
>themed skills
>themed animations
Too much work. It also alters the sillhouette too much.
>but Diablo
He's still FUCKHUGE. And that design is reasonably iconic for DIII fans, he's still recognizable as Diablo.
Tyrael shrinks, loses his wings and gets a literal-who design. Fuck that.
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What a cesspool
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>>172935749
Fuck off, Tyrael.
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>>172935247
Dunno about the black soulstone itself. Kulle was one of the best new characters in the series.
Still I agree that the whole Diablo's plan of infesting aiden's bro, just to infest someone stronger, just so that someone could fuck with Adria so that she could have a child, just so that he could be killed again, just so he could fuse with all the other evils eventually, was convoluted as fuck to have any credibility.
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>>172924228
Why the fuck is Genji between Falstad and Illidan (so alphabetically) but Tychus is in front of Falstad?
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>>172936520
>Still I agree that the whole Diablo's plan of infesting aiden's bro, just to infest someone stronger, just so that someone could fuck with Adria so that she could have a child, just so that he could be killed again, just so he could fuse with all the other evils eventually, was convoluted as fuck to have any credibility.
not only that.

An angel that can turn into a human ? that's weird, but let's say it's possible
Why the hell would an angel make undead spawn everywhere, rez leoric and why is it the story of a whole act ?
Why the other angels are bitching about tyrael acts ? He never did anything against their rules, he made sure about that in D2 and told us about it.
How could Kulle create the black soulstone ? The original soulstone were made from the World Stone which was destroyed, there's no way a fucking human could do something even more powerful than the original one (without accessing the world stone on top of that).

And the list goes on.
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How the fuck do I even play this shit? People just blink to me and I'm dead in 1 second, I don't get it, what am I supposed to do?
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>>172936970
1. Position better (90% likely it's this, you're just getting out of position and being punished for it)
2. Play tankier heroes, whether more HP, more armor, or more evasive
3. get a support to keep you alive, life bars are meant to fluctuate wildly in HotS, going down rapidly but going up just as quick due to the tremendous power of healing
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>>172936847
What did he mean by this?
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Why isn't my Lunar Li Ming skin available on 2.0?
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>>172937129
Where is a good position?
Teammates all around me - dead
Inside my towers - dead

What are tankier heroes? Muradin and Diablo same thing happens to me.

I don't think anyone besides me plays support ever.
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>>172937206
Probably because it's a holiday skin.
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>>172937160
That the screen is filtered to assassins and they are in the exact same order they are on live, but Genji is crammed inbetween Falstad and Illidan instead of being first on the first page as the newest assassin. And it's not just sorted alphabetically, since Tychus is in front of Falstad still
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>>172936847
>>172937160
The order heroes appear in the shop is in accordance of their release date, reversed.
Rather than having anything to do with alphabetical release, the question is why the fuck is Genji pretending he was released sometime between March 13 and June 26, 2014.
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>can't play for four fucking weeks because blizzard are massive Jews who can't reward me properly for my years of fucking service
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>>172937332
But I own it. None of my other holiday skins are unavailable.
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>>172924710
good job anon, ty
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>>172937393
Everything after Tychus is sorted alphabetically, since those are the heroes that were in the game from the very start. Tychus was the first hero to get a "release"
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>>172937614
They list owned heroes first so I guess it has something to do with that. Not sure why they wouldn't have all the heroes.
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>>172865859
Illidan v alarak, nova, varian, lunara.

Poor kid never stood a chance
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>>172937614
Falstad was definitely released after Tychus and launch, though. But I guess that just means Genji is coded as a release date hero.
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>>172937823
Nope, Falstad was in from the very beggining. Granted, Tychus came out literally 5 days after the alpha started and it was over 3 years ago, so it all blurs.
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>>172937412
Probably a bug then
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>>172938221
I guess the wiki lied to me.
Still, it thus means Genji is coded as a launch hero in that client, for whatever purposes. Probably for not having a real release date.
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>>172936907
while I agree the whole thing was pretty fucking stupid they did poorly explain that shit

Tyrael is not a human, he's a mortal angel. He looks human because reasons.
Undead respawn because of angelic or demonic activity, basically Tyrael is a walking necro that can't stop summoning shit.
Imperious is mad for the worldstone, since he doesn't give a shit about sanctuary.
The black soulstone was made with the blood of nephalem ...
ye I know it's fucking stupid.
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>>172938505
or its just a lame pointless photoshop since genji is already confirmed anyways
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>>172938708
It was plucked from a russian video, I doubt they'd bother with such a ruse. More likely Genji was just available early at the paris presentation.
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>>172938960
Genji was available to play at both of the events
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How do I beat butcher and zarya? They have so much health and damage, even if I'm big hp tank I get killed by them in one second, can't even put a dent in them.
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>>172939872
Butcher has so much health? You're not tanking his brand are you?
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>>172939284
Then how the hell there is no abilities leak? I will not believe that russians give a rats ass about NDAs
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>>172939872
>Butcher
Stop letting him feast on you. Nobody can 1v1 the Butcher while taking his brand--even Zul'jin in Taz'dingo will lose to such outrageous sustain. Just walk away until the brand falls off.
>Zarya
Bait out her shield and poke. She's best not fought alone.
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>>172939872

Never 1v1 AA fight the Butcher. Zarya you need to be aware that her shields have a cooldown, so baiting them out and then stopping damage during the shield duration is important when fighting her alone.
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>>172940374
>Nobody can 1v1 the Butcher while taking his brand
I think Leoric can
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>>172940272
Yes, it became quite clear, since you weren't allowed to film at the event and they did anyway. I'm not sure if this guy knew anything about the game. The other folks are quite loyal, but reading through the lines they definitely played Genji and the OW map.
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>>172940645
Between the lines* even.
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>>172940203
The what?
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>>172940794
the thing where while beating the shit out of you he marks you and heals alot when he hits you
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How do I be a good Artanis?
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>>172940794
You're letting him hit you in particular and then he starts healing chunks (20% of his health) off of you with each hit if you're just standing there and not backing the heck off.
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>>172940878
Save your Q and W for when Trait is on CD.
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>>172940794
The Butcher's W marks a nearby enemy with a dark flaming brand. When he attacks branded enemies, he leeches a large quantity of the damage into healing--150% of the damage he inflicts on heroes, specifically. Combined with the fact that if he is leveling his quest correctly, his autoattack damage is among the best in the game, and that he can talent his healing to be even better, it means striking branded foes can bring him from 1% to 100% in a scarce handful of hits.
The brand is vivid, loud, and tracks Butcher's position with its animation. If you see it on you, get the hell away from the Butcher.
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>enemy team has no tank, you have varian
>varian goes colossus smash
>cries about losing all game long
Also had a Kara who was playing him for the first time and went damage
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>>172941025
>>172940912
>>172940861
Oh, I don't fight him anyway, I try to run, but he hits me for all my hp in a couple of hits and then charges me and all that. I really dont know what to do.
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>>172940493
Uh, no. That flimsy ass 25% heal and maybe 15% of Butcher's not exactly high max health he can get from AAs help him not get blown up in seconds, but he WILL get blown up in 2.5 seconds regardless. Just fucking walk away.
Wraith gives unstoppable, you'll never be stunned/silenced by him, just fucking walk away.
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>>172940956
Nice. What about builds?
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>>172941319
Keep playing and you'll get out of bronze and silver, the knowledge will come with it. What do you find troubling about Zarya?
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>>172941427
>enemy goes bonus non-hero damage
>yours always goes that stupid quest
Bosses, buildings, and mercs go down so fucking fast and all you need is a level 1 trait, it's almost criminal
>>
Giant Li Li's
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>>172942214

Labia folds
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>>172941658
>I expect the game to be moderatly long or it's BoE
Fucking Amateur Opponents
>I suspect my team might be retarded, the match will drag on, lanes are close and I'll habe to clean up pushes
Marksman.

It's that simple.
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>>172941626
I don't play draft yet/
Just kills me while not losing hp at all.
Its either that or instant burst in 1 second with other characters.
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>>172941658
>>172942287
What about parry?
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>>172942337
Ranks aren't a metric only in draft modes. It's always running in the background.

I don't think Zarya, the laser gun-shield bitch deals any sort of burst damage. Takes around 16 seconds to kill you from half health even if you catched all of the grenades.
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>>172942483
Parry if against a heavy AA comp that's not fast attackers like Lucio/Tracer etc.
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>>172942337

Butcher has a basic ability that let's him mark a target and his basic attacks heal him massively. Don't duel him ever.

Also, he has a stacking quest on his trait that gives him bonus damage on his basic attack. If his axe is glowing orange, he has upward of 300+ damage on each attack. It is possible to stack this quest indefinately.

I think youre just so low rank where people don't know shit abouy butcher and he cleans house due to ignorance.
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ICE
STAND
SENTINEL
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>>172942603

Varian hard counters both Lucio and Tracer.
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>>172942725
We're talking about Artanis.
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>>172942725
the real question is who counters varian

also anon was talking about Artanis, where did you pull varian from
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>>172942525
I'm talking about its either unkillable character or characters that burst me in half a second so far.

>>172942639
I guess, I haven't played in more than a year.
Hes always the top damage in my recap, no less than 2k in a second or two...
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>>172942702
which character actually says this? i mustve played them since i remember this but i cant remember who

damn..............
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>>172942843

I saw parry and instictively shitposted.

Sorry.
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>>172942902
>the real question is who counters varian
Lunara and Valla
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>>172943126

Xul
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>>172942937
>characters that burst me in half a second so far
You're aware his ult is an explosion of damage right
Otherwise he's a high DPS who's countered by armor, running away/slows (because theres a trait that makes the lifesteal mark grant lifesteal)

And/or waiting for him to fuck up.

>>172943241
>Lunara
I keep forgetting she exists
but I always get to irrationally butthurt when the poison sets in
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>>172942937
So basically you have to learn to stop attacking invulnerable targets, basically learn to back off every once in a while instead of standing there. Same for both Butcher and Zarya.
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>>172943303
>because theres a trait that makes the lifesteal mark grant lifesteal
meant speed, so it's tricky to outrun someone who can outrun you
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>>172943303
What the hell are you talking about?
I'm talking about the 2 types of characters, 1 is tank 1 kills me instantly, I'm not talking specifics
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Genji can attack while moving.
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>>172945036
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WHERE is she?!?!
WTF Blizzard???
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>>172945302
You have a whole shit spider-woman map and you're still not satisfied?
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>>172945471
Nope.
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>>172945102

His normal attack is 3 projectiles, his E is 3-5 shuriken spread that can "shotgun" into targets if close enough.

Dash just like overwatch, resets CD if target is killed.

Trait go over terrain/structures

W is relfect.

Ult triples his AA damage, gives cleave, makes him melee
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>>172945571
Interesting.

Curious as to how the reflect'll work.

>>172945471
>spider map
>shit

git
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>>172945646
The map itself is nice, the spider-woman theme is shit. Extremely uninspired, has been seen thousands of times, not even aesthetically executed. Same goes for Cydaea, except that she's also a character of Diablo 3, therefore a disgrace.
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>>172945646

You can redirect projectiles, skillshots, or ranged AA to your target within range. Similar to how Tracer and Lucio have little "crosshairs" under their targets feet. You can redirect back at them or to someone else.
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>>172945891
>You can redirect projectiles, skillshots, or ranged AA to your target within range.
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>>172946215

Short window similar to parry. Doesn't work with spells that target the ground i.e. Flamestrike, Blizzard, Force Wave
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>>172946750
Wait what characters have parry?
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>>172947321
Varian
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>>172947816
How much fucking more broken can one character get
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>>172947998
>Attack while moving
>mobility skills
>go over walls
>shuriken skillshots for both poke and burst depending on range
>Varian's invulnerability
>that deals dmg to enemies
>ult that triples dmg
>mobility/burst CD resets on kills

Naaah, I'm sure Tracer+Varian+LiMing+Greymane+Illidan in one hero is gonna be perfectly balanced
>>
is there any r34s of zagara
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>>172948360
>>ult that triples dmg
This isn't quite as scary as you're imagining.
You have to realize his non-ult AA hits 3 times.
So it'll just deal normal damage with one hit.
The cleave is the juicy part of the ult.
>>
>hero releases since may 2016
>Tracer
>Chromie
>Gul'dan
>Medivh
>Auriel
>Alarak
>Zarya
>Samuro
>Varian
>Ragnaros
>Zul'jin
>Valeera
>Lucio
>Probius
>Cassia
>Genji

>4 Overwatch
>2 Diablo
>2 Starcraft
>8 Warcraft

>2 Support
>2 Specialist
>1 Warrior
>10 Assassins
>1 Multiclass

Tanks fucking when
Overwatch dying fucking when
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>>172948565

It adds the sum of the three ahots then triples. Was doing like 400 damage a hit at level 10.
>>
>>172948934
Oh.
Now that's what I call cancer.
>>
Who's the best viking?
>>
>>172949154

Thicc daddy Olaf
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>>172949154
Erik.
He's speedy as fuck and allows for:
>Chasing
>Poking
>Running to quickly grab their mercs
>>
>>172944098
Considering butcher is the one hero who specifically can do over 2k damage in 1 time-bomb of an ult paired up with over 200-300 auto hits + a talent that amplifies damage on slows/stuns (both of which he has)

Butcher is very specifically the one hero who can deal that much damage to you, that fast
>>172942937
>I guess, I haven't played in more than a year.
Hes always the top damage in my recap, no less than 2k in a second or two...
idk this sounds pretty specific to me
>>
>>172949235
>>172949154
Wait no Olaf after 16 when you get his stun.
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>>172946750
Are all reflected projectiles seeking like ranged AAs, or do they retain their targeted/skillshot nature afterwards? If a skillshot is reflected, what's the range, remaining length or as if it originated on Genji? Can you reflect
Nazeebos Toads (skillshot)
Thrall's Lightning (targeted)
in particular, and how does it interact with
Stitches' Hook
Cassia's Lightning Ball initially and on rebounce
Anub'arak's lil' vampire mosquito
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>>172949381

I guess we will see soon enough :)
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>>172847415
JUST GIVE US FUCKING MAIEV!!!
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>>172948934
Eh, that means he's only doing 130 per volley at level 10. Could be worse. What attackspeed? If it amounts to 1 per second, it's super manageable.
What's the size of the cleave, from Greymane to Xul W?
>>
>>172949549
soup dash salak
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>>172949381
>Stitches' Hook
Only game I know of where you could counterfuck someone was in GW/GW2 reflects
>enemy has a skill that yanks you
>you deflect it
>they yank themselves into you/your team
Unfortunately GW1 is dead and GW2 is a bag of shit, but at least those were cool
>>
>>172948690
>almost as much ow cancer as warcraft
What the fuck is wrong with blizzard
>>
So I don't get it. Do you have all your stuff in this 2.0 beta thing or is it just PTR stuff?
>>
>>172949819
>Stitches' Hook reflected
that's some tom and jerry physics right there
>>
Probe is pretty fun with the cannon build
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>>172950394
2.0
>everyone starts fresh
>special quests that give you like 10x more rewards so you can test out the new currencies and unlocks

PTR
>your account carried over
>usually your purchases on PTR would carry over to live, but not this time due to 2.0 changes
(i.e. if you bought Probius or Guldan or whatever the fuck on PTR, when the patch hits live, your live account will also receive them)
>>
>>172949819
>>172950440
>reflect hook back at stitches
>he gets stuck pulling himself in an infinite loop
>balanced

Riot plz nerf
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>>172949819
>GW1 is dead and GW2 is a bag of shit
this will never not make me feel sad
>>
>>172950910
I mean like if I launch the 2.0 beta will I have all the shit I have on the live server?
>>
Nightelfs are cute! CUTE!!!
>>
>>172951217
no, everyone on the 2.0 starts fresh
>>
>>172951217
Yes, you will have all mounts, heroes and skins you have on live. Each hero will be lvl 1 though.
>>
What hero is most powerful if they could have every talent at once?
>>
>>172945571
>Trait go over terrain/structures
First of all how would you implement that, second of all wouldn't that be super awkward when you could just make his dash go through structures?

I do agree on everything else though. W will probably reflect any autohits, ult will probably be comparable to cho's melee ult
>>
>>172951974
varian
>>
>>172951974
Kharazim
>>
>>172951974
unironically murky
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so, were the mastery taunts an april fool's joke or not?
>>
>>172953314
real
>>
>>172953314
Real, probably.

>stuns you
I wouldn't mind seeing this changed, though. Either allow it to be "cast" on the move like in League or at least allow it to be cancelled similar tot he dance/recall.
>>
>>172953486
>I wouldn't mind seeing this changed, though. Either allow it to be "cast" on the move like in League or at least allow it to be cancelled similar tot he dance/recall.
That shit was cancer in league, it'll be cancer in this game

I'll take fucking all chat toxicity over mastery taunts anyday
>>
>>172953314
the video is not listed on their youtube page
I fucking hope it was a joke
>>
>>172953597
>The Butcher dives Li-Ming
>manages to miss lambs
>flashes the mastery and he's blown apart
Nah, I'd love it.

>cancer
Stop using this word to describe everything you don't like.
>>
>>172952163
It's activatable for increased movement speed and the ability to pass unpathable terrain for several seconds.
>>
>>172953597
JUST MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO TURN OFF EVERYTHING YOU DON'T LIKE FROM THE OPTIONS
EVERYONE IS HAPPY NOW
>>
>>172953794
>>cancer
Stop using this word to describe everything you don't like.
Only because I roll my fucking eyes when i see kino and flyover
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>>172879914

Can anyone hear me? I need you. I need you to give in to futa.
>>
>>172953959
>he doesnt like kino

I bet you like bvs
>>
>>172954238
>tfw checked out shit on the ptr
>tfw there's a grand total of only 2 items I want
Legendary Diablo skin and eagle eye Tyrande portrait, man 2.0 SUCKS
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>>172954238
>>
>>172954238
Can NOT confirm.
http://imgur.com/a/oHJA4
>>
How many shards do you get for multiples?
>>
>>172954715
depends on the rarity of the item
>>
>>172954321
naw man one guy mentioned kino back then and suddenly everyone calls everything is kino

the meaning is fucking lost
But it tended to be used in context historically/acedemically
i.e.
>kino pravda
as in uber hipster high art horseshit, but suddenly fuckers bring up butchery like "capekino" or "monsterkino" or just plain "kino" cause they heard it
>>
>>172954756
Obviously, how many shards do you get for common/rare/epic/legendary?
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>>172954715
It depends on the quality/rarity of the duplicate.
The Dehaka one I got was worth 400. Didn't spend too much time on the beta, though.

>tfw being able to afford four master skin tints from that duplicate alone
>>
>>172954841
5, 20, 100, 400 ithink maybe possibly
>>
>>172954928
>>172954930
Thanks anons.
>>
>>172950331
Overwatch heroes are easy to implement since they have pre-existing models that just need to get touched up. They already have kits of which most are easy to translate to a MOBA.
Plus they probably hope to catch some Overwatch crossplayers with it, and infuse HotS with some of Overwatch's (dwindling) relevance.

I can't really complain about OW heroes. I don't like them but I feel like they mostly put so many of them in because their development time is probably halved. With exception of the recent waiting period HotS has a pretty tight release schedule.
That said, Reinhardt is long overdue.
>>
>>172921075
Just revel in mewnfarez tears
>>
>>172955215
>Reinhardt is long overdue.
not before best family
>>
>>172955215
>earthshatter will never knock down targets, just stun in a cone because animation budgets
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Fucking when?
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>>172921075
Alextheprog and adrd
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>>172955481
Why the fuck would you put this much effort into such a strange image. Its like its in the uncanney valley between porn and not-porn.
Reinhardt isn't even my favorite OW character, its just that he'd be a perfect fit both with his kit and his visual design. Just imagine a Terran Reinhardt skin.
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>>172955593
Where are they?!
>>
bronze here, why is auriel + cho gall considered OP?
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>>172955481
>>
>>172955779

Auriel gets double energy because cho'gall is ome body with two ways to deal tons of damage in an area.
>>
tfw you realize all this shit coming in 2.0 is actually fucking nothing

When is that new cunt gonna start working and they'll actually release shit at a reasonable pace
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>>172955901
I know.

Hoping for some sort of "Improvements to reconnect system, Hero swaps/trading in Draft and more!" announcement.

Or literally anything gameplay related at this point. The only changes so far are bushes.

also Cassia when
>>
>>172955901
reminder that the loot box shit is just the first part of the 2.0 update
>>
I really hope that the next 2 heroes are not both OW. I know Genji was leaked, but if the 3rd is also OW I'm fucking done with this game
>>
>>172955885
should you get reservoir of hope in that case?
>>
>>172956017
I don't mind cosmetic shit if at least there was more of it.

If there was more I'd complain about it being not enough.
>>
>>172956058
>being angry at OW
come on
>50% WC
>30% SC
>1% B
>15% diablo
>the balance of OW
>>
>>172956058
Why? as long as the heroes have interesting mechanics or they're fun to play what does it matter what universe they came from?
>>
>>172956058
the third one is either D.Va or Ana; there are "leaks" for both.

Either way, bye anon, we won't miss you
>>
>>172956169
>>172956171
>entire premise at the start is wc, sc, and diablo universes finally crossing over
>OW releases, and now we get just a bunch of shit OW characters

it sucks
>>
>>172956058

Who cares. Your fucking waifu is shit, and if you don't like a new hero then just don't fucking play it.
>>
>>172956171
No, Overwatch is garbage and I don't want this shit in hots.
>>
>>172956284
so you're just a retard?
>>
Need a new thread. If it has [embed][embed][embed] again im done with this game.
>>
>lucio releases
>hotsg fucking blows up, everyone descends into rage and wishes locusts and death and shit onto overwatch and blizzard
>genji and another ow shit hero releases
>hotsg going full reddit blizzdrone shill corporate fag and begs blizzard to fuck them more with more ow heroes
So this is the power... of reddit takeover...
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NEW:

>>172956420
>>172956420
>>172956420
>>172956420
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>>172956436
You can leave right now anon :)
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>>172949670
Zeratul isnt a qt secret tsundere elf
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