/ndg/ - Nier/Drakengard General #49

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These threads have really died out, huh?

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Nier automata OST is really awesome

Is this game still worth playing if I know the full plot?

>>172822651
Never liked a game so much you keep replying it? Also one thing is knowing how it plays out and other is experiencing it yourself

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Scoutlets! When will they ever learn?

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is skinfag here? using your theme but its impossible to see offline/online notifications in chat. the text in the left bar in the settings and your name in the friends window is really hard to read as well. other than that though, neat theme

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>>172823163
Why couldn't they have given 9S a cuter voice

w h y

>>172823321
But 9S's voice is just perfect both in Jap and English

Holy hell! Rub the touchpad!

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>>172821595
So not only do you make a new thread 30 posts early, you also fuck up the spacing in the OP.

Good going.

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>>172827752
It happens. Don't hate him for that. Instead, show him the right way to do it and try being a nice person. Like 2. Or Yonah. Or 6O.

>>172828241
I don't wanna be dead people

>>172826751
If you start killing villagers then talk to Pascal, does he say anything about it?

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>>172802715

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>>172828458
Dunno i killed him too. Its only way to prevent their suffering.

>>172828458
I don't think so. In C as A2 I went to talk to Pascal but accidentally hit light attack and killed one of the children standing next to him. Business just carried on as usual.

>kill pascal as a2
>game over, says because he died the whole thing went to shit
>spare him, play some more
>a hour or two in he dies/gets mind wiped and becomes irrelevant anyway

>>172828840
You got your filter tho.

>>172828358
Try being nice and not dying at the same time.
It's not like Taro is in charge of your life!

There are 3 robots standing at high grounds while playing as 9S with a quest marker on them. When you talk to them, they don't respond and you have to hack into them. During said hack, you hear their thoughts.

Does this actually lead into a quest line or is it just a way to get the +6 hijack boost? I'm trying to finish all subquests and I need to know this.

>>172828689
I want to snuggle with an operator.

>>172829307
I want an android harem.

>>172829381
I hope you have a few spare crotches.

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Congratulations! Your DLC scenario will be implemented unless it is something R-18! What is it?

After the shitty flower is destroyed Utautai get isekai'd into N:A timeline on another continent and now have to work together against machines. Teaming up with Resistance and some yorha units they manage to destroy the local Terminal. Unfortunately they all die in the process. But hey, at least A2's unit survives!

>>172829594
The first mission 2B is assigned to 9S for.

>>172829594
Let it be intoner 2.

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>>172829724
>she allows him to do what he wants because of a lack of experience
>he turns into level 99 boss at the end of DLC when execution call comes

>>172829027

www twitch tv/kylemccarley/videos/all

Why can't I find descent Papa Nier art?

>>172832184
>Papa Nier art?
cause that was the murikn version in 360.

and most art is from Nipps. who got brother Nier

>>172828937
So you can't kill him and take his filter (assuming he has one installed)?
I was really tempted to find out, but plot took priority.

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>>172832184
Because Papa Nier is ugly

>>172832228
nope, he costume made the one for A2

>>172832219
Nips got both though.

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>>172832412
Papa Nier is great.
And badass.

>>172832853
>Nips got both though.
remind me again how many 360 were in fucking japan

>>172832593
why do androids need fuel filters though? they run on water fusion. unless it's just a water filter.

>>172832593
Hmm.
I wonder how Pascals hand-made costume would look on A2.
Or how it would look in general.

>>172832903
There must have been some as Microsoft was able to get exclusive deals with a decent number of Japanese titles.

>>172832857
Honestly, I don't think he looks bad with the mask, but that brow.

>>172832903
~3 I think

>>172832924
fuck you. custom*

>>172832920
its 100-something century, I aint explaining shit

>>172833019
Don't be so angry.
I really want to know what Pascal would make if he had to make one.

>>172832970
It adds to his brutish, primal charm.

>>172829007
Not that guy, but what would I do if I get a feeling that he is in charge?

>yfw it was never about a fuel filter
>a2's cognitive abilities were below average, so she never realized she was being duped into getting friendly with pascal and giving up her >muh sheens by 2b's pod
>it was all a ploy to make her warm up to the machines and further the 2b memories integration

>>172831701
Thanks anon, I'll have to watch these soon. Always interesting to see how voice actors view the completed work, given they know a lot about what happens beforehand by nature of their job.

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>>172833337
>when both 2B and 9S actually break you can feel it
>but A2 is absolutely fine
Holy shit.

>new to game
>died for the first time, didn't realize I needed to recover my chips, and I lost them all

What's the best way to get Move Speed chips? I'm level 30.

>>172833118
I disagree but what do I know?
I haven't even played the game.

>>172833180
Not that guy, but continue to fight for what you believe in.
Your tragedy could make a great story one day. It would be a shame for you to end it now, before you have experienced true suffering.

>>172833569
He is a father whose only concern is well-being of his dying daughter and who can justify anything as long as he believes that it would help his daughter.

>>172833381
They drop from the desert bipeds. The ones wearing panchos or whatever they are. They're as common as rats in Route C near the Desert Camp, but in Route A/B, you have to go out into the Desert more. There's a pocket of like three of them on the way to the Desert Housing Complex entrance near a rock.

>>172833683
What about bruva Nier personality?
I played as Papa Nier and would like to know differences between the two.

>>172833365
I'm pretty keen to watch them too but my plate is full of games at the moment.
Eventually I might even get around to watching Joosten play MGSV and R&C devs playing Going Commando.

>>172833803
Just replace all that with "I need to mamoru my imouto"

Seriously, it's exactly the same, just for us it's way easier to empathise with a father than a brother. They have exactly the same lines for the most part, do you remember how weird the "We're friends, right?" scene with Kaine was? Makes a lot of sense if it was written for brother nier

>>172833381
>I'm level 30.
get 5 more lvl and where you fought Adam is an infinite spawn spot byt they are about lvl 38

€40 for Automata, worth it?

>>172834220
Yes. Also, you're in a Nier general, what kind of answer are you even expecting.

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The Soundtrack and Artbook/ Guide for N:A cant come any sooner

>>172834270
I'd say here out of all places people would be honest

>>172834342
Nah, generals tend to be very polarizing. You'd be better off reading spoiler-free reviews.

>>172834342
It's totally worth buying, you really shouldn't visit this general if you haven't played the game yet. There's a reason there is a dozen spoiler warnings in the OP, after all 2B dies and humanity is already extinct

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>>172832184

>simone catches fire
>someone, someone help
Of all the things that happen during this fight in route B, this made me feel bad.

>>172834805
>backstory talks about climbing a mountain to get a rare jewel
>there's no way she could have been climbing mountains as a stubby or as that giant machine with the metal dress
Simone was a lazily written obsessive psycho. You did the world a favor by burning her to the ground.

If I let the pods delete my data at ending E, will it delete data on separate save files too?

>>172835156
it deletes all 3 save slots.

>>172835124
Have you seen those stubbies shit out Adam? They most definitely can climb, pretty well too

>>172835192
It talks about losing parts of herself as she climbed until she was barely herself any longer. Stubbies don't have enough parts to lose.

>>172835124
Have you seen that she hides a massive cock and set of legs behind the dress?

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>>172834309
Hopefully we get some decent scans

So which ending is canon before ending E? Did A2 beat 9S?

>>172835509
The pods carry a replacement for his arm to him during the ending, so yes

>>172835509
In ending C 9S survives. But in ending E Pods are saying that all black boxes are offline.
Ending D makes way more sense and gives way more character development, while ending C is literally called meaningless as it fails to resolve a single thing.

>>172835509
>If I let the pods delete my data at ending E, will it delete data on separate save files too?
the most logic path is A>B>C>E cause you see the pods carrying 9S arm

also cause nor him or A2 has a fucking sword in the guts

>>172835625
They are carrying his original arm and could already de-attached infected 2B's arm on their own.

>>172835657
>while ending C is literally called meaningless as it fails to resolve a single thing.
E basically implies they reconstructed the bodies and pods saved the memories. so it dont matter if the black box is out

>>172835715
Same goes for 2B, ya no?

>>172835323
>simone will never peg you

>>172835715
>also cause nor him or A2 has a fucking sword in the guts
2B's entire body was reconstructed despite suffering way more damage and probably flying into the pit near shopping mall.

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>>172835489
So do we have any idea why the flight suits are named after the Nazi meme triangle?

>>172835938
>probably flying into the pit near shopping mall.
Has anyone been down there in route C?

>>172836056
I did, and while there's fragments of white blocks from the Tower down there, her body is nowhere to be seen.
Probably crushed behind the blocks.

>>172835938
>2B's entire body was reconstructed
tower had like 10 spare bodies

>>172836056
nothing there, I went to it for canyon quest

>>172835973
japan has a boner for nazis. they were allies during ww2, sharing the same ideals of national pride and isolation.

>>172835787
>so it dont matter if the black box is out
It matters when we're talking about the endings. In C Nines is still alive and simply knocked out so his black box signal is still online. He only dies in ending D.

Though ending E may be a fusion of C/D for all we know. 9S gets 2B's sword in his guts and sees the Arc while dying A2 manages to hack into him and destroy the machine network on Earth hence why Tower is crumbling even if Ark flies off.

>It takes 264 basic chips to create a +8 chip
Jesus fuck.

I don't get game dev machine.
I beat his game then nothing.

>>172836384
Far less, combining chips of +0, 1, 3, 5, 7 only needs one diamond chip

>>172836405
You need to playtest its stability.
Think about the most common glitches.

>>172836405
You need to find a bug.

>>172836405
You need to find bugs in them. Try bumping into walls, shooting where you normally wouldn't, stuff like that.

>>172836460
>>172836464
>>172836478
OK I just ran into a wall by accident and the game crashed.
This was before I read your posts.
Thanks I guess.

>>172836405
>I don't get game dev machine.
unless the bug is RNG created

1st game, the far left wall there is a part around the upper half that you clip pass it

2nd game. just straight to the core without killing anything

3rd game. kill all teh falling arrows, 1 of em is the bug

Is there actually a way to create diamond chips? I thought they're just random drops

>>172836738
Fusing two diamond chips creates another diamond chip +1 level.

Due to the way fusing works (averaging costs, alternate between rounding up and down) you only need 1 diamond chip when fusing chips starting from +0, 1, 3, 5 and 7. 16 +0 diamond chips need to drop for a +8

>>172836310
I will add that the unit data of 9s and a2 in the archives only references the events of ending D regardless of which order you got them in, I tested it

>>172836952
Oh, that's nice. Thanks for confirming, anon.

>hack father servo outside of quest
>he died
Did I fuck up?

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Arioch is cute! CUTE!

>>172837315
You're right. She must have been pretty sweet before she went cuckoo

>>172837315
>you'll never be so tacticool that your sword has a 3 point sling and quick release holster

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>Works with Platinum for his games
>takes teh chance to get em to sign some of the game hw owns
Taro is moe

>>172837078
try teleporting to another area and back in. he may respawn.

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>>172837989
>you will never get a signed copy of Okami from Kamiya

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Is this... Automata 2?

>>172837989
>didn't even get Vanquish signed
Losing faith here tbqh

>>172838095
No. Just a collection of small hints that are meaningless without context.

>>172838053
Dude doesn't even need it they're drinking buddies. Dude could sign every beer, sake, gin, and vodka he downs.

>>172838095
Nah. Just a small look into the future that we can only guess rightly means E is actually not that great of an ending.

>>172838880
are there any other story bits in the artbook?

>>172836952
Well shit, I hated ending D.

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>>172839091
No idea. But this one seems to be important as fuck.
>Commander's real name is White and she was originally a member of Resistance
>she knows Jackass fairly well
>she's hesitant about Type-E program
>she wants to truly change things for androids

>>172839223
you forgot
>best body
>no panties

>>172839652
I wonder if she always had that body or YoRHa program improved it.
Jackass doesn't look all that special compared to her.

>>172839652
She has panties, same style as 2B.

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>move to japan
>hit on cute jap girls all the time
>zero responses
>I gaze into the mirror. In its reflection, I see only my own meaninglessness.
>someone please look my way

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>>172838880
Oh man I NEED THE ARTBOOK SCANNED NOOOW

>>172839898
I'm looking your way.

>>172839981
You're laughing at me though.

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>Jackass sounds mad as fuck at higher-ups most likely specifically because they got White killed in process

Will a decent quality video card and CPU cost less than a PS4?

>>172840063
No I'm not.
I'm admiring your beauty.

>>172840238
If decent means "can play nier automata better than the ps4/pro" then yes

>>172839898
Jean Paul is directly responsible for the deaths of dozens of android waifus.

>>172840954
Indirectly and inadvertently

>>172840756
Good. Now to actually find them online.

>>172839223
>she wants to truly change things for androids
>too much of a lazy slob to really do anything
Most relatable character.

>>172841297
nah directly, basic manners mean you should at least response to a declaration. no going full autism fedora

>>172838880
Why is Jackass such a degenerate?

>>172841491
So a dense MC is complete responsible for a yandere's murders?

>>172841491

Even if he said "Simone, kill all the androids and I will love you" he'd still be indirectly killing them because he didn't actually do it himself.

>>172841750
That's not really how it works, is it? Hitler himself (probably) didn't go around concentration camps killing people, but that's someone we give a good chunk of the blame for that happening to.

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Who was Pod 042 trying to suicide attack?

>>172841860

There's a huge difference between ignoring someone and them going crazy and a military chain of command

>>172842091
His own programming, so he could allow 2B, 9S, and 2A's memories to not be deleted.

>>172840756
You can get a PS4 in the 200-300 EUR price range. That's the same range as a decent quality video card. Not about to start that old debate but in Nier's case specifically the PC version's only advantage is a slightly steadier framerate and a higher res if you have the machine for that. Stutters are still in, 900p cutscenes are still in, need a community fix for some things, etc.

That said, buying a console for just one game is dumb.

>>172842176
Were we controlling Pod 042 throughout the credits of E then?

>>172842254
You need a pod to hack so yeah

>>172842091
Fish.

In case you're serious, I think that's just intentionally awkward wording meant to illustrate the Pod's artificial speech. He launched a suicide attack = he attempted suicide.

>>172842196
I was just going off that my fucking 760 can can run the game better than the ps4 pro can, after FAR

>>172842320
>He launched a suicide attack = he attempted suicide
Why would he do that though?

>>172840238
buying a console -or a PC for that matter- just for one game is dumb.
That said, in general a decent gaming PC is a better investment than a console, even if your PC ends up costing twice as much as the console. You end up spending less on games and there are more games of a wider variety available on PC, plus you can use your PC for many things other than gaming.
As an added bonus, if you use your PC for work you should be able to write it off from your taxes

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>>172842254
>Were we controlling Pod 042 throughout the credits of E then?
just till now you realize it?? Im sure it was obvious

why do you think this exist?

>>172842254
Well, everyone was dead at the time.

>>172842518
I assume it will help make the computer work faster and not freeze up when editing videos in Pinnacle, right?

>>172842254
Not really, the credits are probably the only non-diagetic thing in the game. The pod isn't actually hacking into the credits, the pod didn't somehow summon other pods from other peoples games to help it succeed. The credit sequence is used as a metaphor for whatever the pod was actually hacking. (Itself, to remove the programming lock making it delete everything YoRHa related)

I really like this touch as the "delete your saves" ending from the original NieR had the problem of "How did this happen. Seriously how. How the fuck does he delete memory of himself. How the fuck does that save Kaine. It's a sweet gesture but NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE"

In Automata, it doesn't have to make sense, because it's completely separated from what's actually going on in-universe, while still being effective.

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>>172839898

So what did Popola and Devola's predecessors do that doomed humanity?

>>172842734
video editing and video gaming are two different things. I'm not an expert but if all you have right now is basically a toaster, yes it will, definitely. If your current computer is recent and geared towards video editing, maybe not.

>>172842895
Go play Nier.

>>172842895
You know this game is a sequel, right?

>>172842924
It's pretty much a toaster. Hell, I bought it from Lidl half a decade ago.

>>172842958
No.

>>172842983
No.

>>172842452
It's a common theme across the entire game and is reflective of existentialism and especially absurdism. The inability to cope with being unable to find meaning in life becomes too much of a burden to bear.

One of the Wise Machines commits suicide after deciding the war it's a part of is meaningless. Speed Star and Father Servo commit suicide once their meaning is "taken away" from them (someone else is faster and stronger than them, respectively).

The scene with Pod 042 is supposed to tie it all together by concluding that suicide is not the answer.

>>172843035
time to go shopping then
>>>/g/pcbg

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T-shirt date DLC when? ;_;

>>172843240
Nines will need to build the shopping mall first.

>>172843325
"I need to design a thousand different shirts just so we can have the fun of shopping together and choosing what we like"

it really hurts

>>172843415
Well he has an experience spreading his mind to multiple personalities so nothing he wouldn't be able to handle.

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>>172842849

I'm a little disappointed by the World Guide. The scenaries are fantastic, but I was hoping for it to be a sort of more complete artbook with a lot more characters sketches and the like, but they all just get one page. I hope they release one with just characters.

>>172843428
I'm behind you all the way!

>>172843428
>>172843605
Seriously though, if you want to talk about it, I'm here for you.

Does anyone have the "they really get it!" image where someone Japanese loses their shit over little foreign boy legs?

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>>172843839

>>172843839
Thanks, Anon!

>>172843931
Whoops. Meant for >>172843902 obviously.

>>172843240
tfw trying to found who drew this but no hit anywhere

give me artist sauce pls

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Hey I just wanna thank everyone here for encouraging me to play OG Nier, I'm having a great time with it and I definitely can tell it'll totally improve my experience in my second run of Automata. Thanks guys!

>>172844583
https://twitter.com/876DR/status/848186484804866054

>>172844695
Thank you my good friend

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Incest is cute! CUTE!

>>172842895
Nothing

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>>172845615

>>172842895
Play Nier

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any fix for this? happening to half the quests in the city ruins

>>172846302
Enemies nearby

>>172846302
Robutts are coming for that booty, you have to kill them all before NPCs will interact with you.

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dlc costumes when

>>172846436
>Still no 2B costume in Gravity Rush 2
TOYAMAAAAA

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>streamer playing automata
>"if this story really picks up I'm really gonna enjoy this game"
>chat's face when

>>172846436
>no dick
Already ruined and it hasn't even been greenlit.

>>172846582
androids have no need for genitals

>>172846582
Penises are prohibited.

>>172846582
9S JP VA actually suggested Kaine outfit DLC, and the devs loved the idea.

I assume that suggestions is why we see so much art of Automata characters wearing Kaine's outfit.

>>172846674
I know. Doesn't mean her getting a Kaine outfit DLC wouldn't be an active insult.

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>Emil (Despair) isn't in the official soundtrack
KONO MAMA JA DAME

>>172846750
Unless it comes with a bulge.

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>>172846717

>>172846574
I watched Dansgaming stream it yesterday, it was a complete shitshow of the guy just mashing through all the unvoiced text because "It can't be important if they didn't even bother voicing it". I died a bit inside

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So what kind of dlc weapons/armor do you wish for

>Old replicant Nier clothes
>All Intoner clothes
>Kainé's clothes
>Gestalt Nier clothes
>Kainé's swords
>Old gestalt Nier mask
>Emil's blindfold
>Old replicant Nier sword/spear

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>>172846856
I'd just know it'd be a sock or stocking she rolled up and it would make it worse.

>>172846741
Hanae has an impressive dedication to his armpit fetish so he's bound to be for anything that fuels it.

>>172846482
Was it a ruse?
Did journalists just make an assumption based on that fanart?

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>>172846917
That's my fetish

I just got to the robot refugee village and I am not sure where the sudden change in treatment towards the robots come from. First I am killing robots, suddenly I am doing quest for them. 9S and the comms keep telling me to kill them because it is a ruse but I get the feeling I am not supposed to and they are all so nice.

Am I missing something that is supposed to mark the change in treatment of robots between killing the first boss in the desert, arriving at the amusement park and after the opera boss?

What is the Emil head that Taro wears made out of? Is it paper-mache? Because it still looks heavy as fuck.

>>172846741
I agree.
A Kaine outfit for 9S would be great.

>>172847185
They're friendly.

>>172847185
They're not on the network

>>172847218
Can't be paper mache if you look at the way it's being put on here, it's some kind of rubber
https://youtu.be/L3wScHE28K8?t=11m40s

So, any explanation why Adam and Eve hatched out of robot egg? What was their purpose beside being villains?

>>172847185
They're friendly, they're not connected to the network and they trade with the Resistance. Keep playing, the Commander says YoRHa are curious about these machine lifeforms and want to know more.

Also don't come to this general until you get ending E.

>>172847260
>>172847282
I get that but why do the robots suddenly not attack me and why am I not attacking them. From the tutorial mission till the desert mission, I always get the sense that robots are hostile towards me. Amusement park onwards, I meet "friendly" robots but 9S and 2B don't act like there is anything weird with that aside from one or two remarks from 9s.

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>>172847185
>Why am I not massacring friendly characters?

>>172847419
They just don't receive orders from the network of machines that Adam and Eve are on

>>172847417
I just dropped in to ask because it feels like I am missing something but apparently I am not. Thanks I will keep playing.

>>172847515
Oh is this a spoiler that I learn later on? Or did I just not pay enough attention?

>>172847469
I am not but 2B and 9S should be.

>>172847413
>villians
Your stupidity shall only be forgiven this once.
>>172847345
Probably a solid plastic sphere with some sort of silicon or rubber covering over it.

>>172847419
The very first area you reach upon landing back on Earth features robots that stare aimlessly at the sky. You then reach the desert where machines further exhibit unusual behaviour, enough for both 2B and 9S to question it.

The machine lifeforms in the village wave white flags, they've chosen pacifism. You will get to ask about it on two separate occasions.

Bear in mind that storytelling in this game can be considered minimalist in that it won't spend a significant amount of time exploring why this is that way or another. The game wants you to make conclusions, and ultimately a lot of the game becomes open to interpretation.

It's not for everyone but that's how Yoko Taro likes it.

>>172847419
This is literally explained.

>>172847419
I don't know why nobody has said this yet but get out.
This general is full of spoilers and this is an experience that should not be spoiled.

If you have questions, the game will answer most of them.

>>172847635
>is it a spoiler
Uh uh I don't know I'm pretty sure someone mentions it
*sweats profusely*

>>172846760
>disc 3, track 9

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>>172848015
>it's suddenly there
I feel stupid now

>>172821595
Will the crack be ever released? I don't have my ps4 with me right now or I would've immediately bought it.

>>172847054
I want Zero's clothes the most, but Kaine's are fine too.

And then I want an option to play an entire game with any character because I only care about this stuff for A2.

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Mod that scales enemies' levels when?

>>172847119
The source is a digest video published by Sony themselves, so I'd hope not.

>>172848404
No. Zero headway being made.

>>172848514
It would be easier to use CE to manipulate your own level, really.
Probably already done on CE forums.

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>>172846917
>i can't draw that well so i'll just give them giant tits and dicks

>>172838098
Mikami doesn't work at Plat anymore, remember?

>>172848718
Done that already, but I have to keep adjusting it.

>>172848854
make hotkeys to make it less of a bother or something
for +/- 1 level for example

>>172848779
>draw well
Its an art style of that particular artist. See what else they do outside that style before judging.

>>172848514
They should just add a new difficulty level where everyone's level is 99. Less work for them.

>>172849051
>it's just my style mom

>>172849059

level scaling is already in the game though for the shmup enemies. All they need to do is switch it on for everything else.

>>172848779
It's actually pretty cute and well done. I don't agree with the boobage but that's about it

>>172849059
The doesn't sound that bad desu. Or a very hard mode that doesn't one shot you

>>172849295
Yeah I kinda wish the difficulties were tweaked better. I like Hard mode but not the whole "no lock on" thing, that should be for Very Hard. And Very Hard shouldn't be a one-hit-death scenario, I think that should be on another higher up difficulty. I just wish we had a NG+

>>172849237
Shmup sections have synced level enemies? Really? I hadn't noticed. I knew wildlife scaled, that's it.

I really just wish they didn't even do levels in the first place, but oh well.

>>172849369
>I like Hard mode but not the whole "no lock on" thing
One of the main reasons I played on Hard despite difficulty spikes was to make the crosshair appear consistently.

I thought it was retarded that playing on Normal made the crosshair appear only at really weird, arbitrary moments. Instead of being given the choice between manual aiming and lock-on, I'd have to swap difficulties to choose one or the other.

Should've been a chip, in my opinion.

>>172849369
Honestly the lock on completely trivializes any challenge in the game since being able to auto aim your pod fire and later on laser while doing whatever else just completely melts bosses in seconds. If Hard mode still had it it wouldn't be very hard even before you get a decent chip set.

>>172849909
Yeah I guess that makes sense actually

>>172838276
Despairfag please. The point of ending E is that the main trio survives the events of the game. The reconstruction of the machine network 500 years later does nothing to invalidate that in the slightest.

>>172849909
>Honestly the lock on completely trivializes any challenge in the game since being able to auto aim your pod fire and later on laser while doing whatever else just completely melts bosses in seconds. If Hard mode still had it it wouldn't be very hard even before you get a decent chip set.


Well fuck they should have made bosses more agressive, less bullet-hellish and just tougher then, rather than to introduce an element of artificial difficulty,

>>172850237
>The reconstruction of the machine network 500 years later does nothing to invalidate that in the slightest.
I think I missed this. Where does it say that?

>>172850935
Weapon story for Emil Heads

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>>172850237
>The point of ending E is that the main trio survives the events of the game. The reconstruction of the machine network 500 years later does nothing to invalidate that in the slightest.

And that's considering the game has a bunch of joke AWOL endings.
They could have fucked off right away for all the good that journey did them.

>people want more 2b/automata
>yoko says nope
>squeenix smells money, gets another team to make a sequel
>another drakengard 2 like game comes out

>>172851487
>Nier: Au2mata flops
>Squeenix panics
>He makes a spin-off of Nier
>The cycle continues

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>>172851487
It's going to happen too.

>>172852206
>>172852205
>>172851487

How bad was Drakengard 2?
If we get Automata Rising: Revengeance which is a 100% Platinuim game without levels but with stylish points and exciting bosses focused 100% on 2Butt I'm gonna take it, more so i'm gonna love it.

That damned cutscene on the 2nd playthrough where 2B is messing with her brightness settings for 40 minutes, and then goes on to mess with more settings.

Jeeez why such a long cutscene with almost no substance?

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>>172851487
>Au2mata by Motomu Toriyama

>>172852523
Because that's what you were doing in Route A

>>172852523
The sad thing is I can't tell if you're joking, but the >Jeeez fills me with hope.

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>>172852523
>Jeeez why such a long cutscene with almost no substance?

...Is this bait?

>>172852474
It mostly just feels kinda bland compared to Taro's other works. I think he only worked on some of the cutscenes. The gameplay is slightly better, though.

Not everything about it was bad. The scenes with Caim were pretty great and Legna was okay.

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>>172852523
>went to toilet and then eat during this part
>have to suffer through almost an hour of nothing happening

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I want this to be a real thing.

>too easy on normal, too hard on hard

I really enjoy the combat in Automata but it's really poorly balanced.
How do you fine tune the difficulty, so that it's both fair but challenging?

I like challenging games, but I don't enjoy getting 1 hit killed by random shit on hard even with ridiculous defense chips on.
I've just started the 9S playthrough, got +50% hp, and 45% melee defense, and I still get 1 or 2 hit killed by things even though I'm way overleveled. (on hard)

was thinking playing on normal without mod chips, except for quality of life support stuff (item pickup etc) + limited healing item usage from quick menu only? (10 or 5 max of each). Also no pod abilities. Some of those clear the entire battle with very low cooldowns.

Or am I just overthinking this and should just mash my way through the game? Feels like a great combat system going to waste.

>>172852523
It's showing you how 9S felt when you were fiddling around with the settings like a tard at the start of Route A.
The entire 2nd Route is just showing how much 2B carried 9S and how fucking dumb a lot of the shit you did was, like the retarded fetch quests at the start, when you do them as 2B 9S comments on how dumb it is and you dismiss it, since that's just what you do in games, boring fetch quests. Then on Route B you do them all over again and come to realize that yes, they were fucking retarded, 9S was right all along. The 2nd playthrough is full of shit like that, it does a fucking beautiful job putting you into 9S's shoes

>>172853640
It looks bad

>>172853000
That's a damned shame. I was a total dick during that bit and it was pretty great for it to come full circle with me on the receiving end of my own dickery.

>>172853646
It's an RPG, not an action game. Just be glad the combat isn't painful to play like most of the previous games

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>>172853640
Doesn't look too good.

>>172853646
>How do you fine tune the difficulty, so that it's both fair but challenging?
You either remove levels that add nothing to the game or you add level scaling so players don't no-brain through mechanics.

Just play on whatever difficulty you want. I played on Hard but switched to Normal during some segments, like the prologue and a couple of boss fights.

>>172853640

You would not wear these outside your house.

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what does it say

>>172853646
only use your fist as main weapon as 2b/a2

>>172854039
It says you're gay.

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>>172837954
How about being so tacticool, you have a holster for 4 swords?

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>>172853640
post them on /fa/ do it faggot

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>>172854406
I think 8B actually had 4 sheaths for standard YoRHa swords, along with at least 3 other weapons on her back.

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>>172853646
>ever getting hit as 9S of all characters

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What did he mean by this?

>>172855704
I'm guessing the man is 9S putting the blame on others? I dunno I'm no smart dude

How the fuck do I find what the level 4 upgrades of weapons do?

>>172854039
Your artificial body's temperature and heart rate are rising. Your vital signs are in disarray...
9S...

If your artificial body isn't well I'd like you to tell me.

That's not it.
Well it's
Umm...

I-I'm fine.
Sorry about this.

Why are you apologizing?

...I just felt like it.

[WHITE TEXT IN BG]
I'm sorry 2B

Just now
I

had a

strange dream

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>>172855947
We sit in the same boat.

>endurance up doesn't increase you hp

>>172855947
Go to the weapons menu, select a level 4 weapon and then hit "details" it gives you a pretty decent explanation of the effect

>>172855809
that's a litograph with one of facade's rules. if anything, it may reference nier or drakengard.

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Will we ever get the stageplay as DLC?

>>172856856
Sounds like Ciam's story in Drakenguard 2.

>>172856954
I doubt it, but I'd love to. I hope SE are keeping an ear to the ground and are noticing how common that suggestion is.

I'm also curious what Taro's stance is on DLC. In general.

>>172857335
Can't be too against it considering what DoD3 got.

>>172851059
Oh I assumed that was in the past

>>172855704

After giving it some thought; this really sounds like Caim's story in Drakenguard 2.

Caim is the aged man
Angelus is the jar bound lizard
Mahna is the young wife who left and never returned. (And took out his eye)

Caim's primary goal is to see Angelus once again where the Aged Man's primary goal is finding his Lizard.


What does everyone else think?

>>172856954
Hopefully. Also first 2B and 9S mission together and maybe something extremely creepy about 9S and Cruel Oath weapon story.

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>>172833381
Speaking of dying and losing chips, this stopped happening to me. I'm not sure why, I was connected to the network, but spots I died in were pretty off the beaten track. (Like next to 2B's glider in the water area)

Should I get automatica on pc or ps4?

>you will never get to be a qt operator in lesbians with 6O, commander, or 2B

Why are we here? Just to suffer?

Where do I need to shoot Emil up for him to be selling ingridients?

>>172858868
>9S and Cruel Oath weapon story.
9S probably killed S-models and that's why 2B is with him.

>>172859203
PC has better FPS, resolution and graphics.

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>>172859354
You feel it too, don't you?

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>>172859405
Remove edgefags!
9S is a good boy and did nothing wrong!

>>172859073
route c disables that mechanics for story related reasons.

>>172859354
>not wanting to give 21O a family

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>>172859775
>On the morning of the seventh day, a single survivor stood tall. Cleaning the blood from his hands, he chuckled to himself. 'Better go find the traitor!'

Sounds like 9S to me.

>>172859608
dosnt the pc port have a lot of issues?

>>172858868
>first 2B and 9S mission together
That wouldn't even be interesting, she would just kill him without regret.

>>172859354
>you will never be 21O and make a family with him
>especially because he's into 2B instead
Absolute suffering. It's okay, I'll just look at more old world data...

Would it have been better for 2B for a different E-unit to be assigned to 9S each time? Or would 2B show up to stop them?

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>>172860016
>dosnt the pc port have a lot of issues?
Nothing horrible.
People complain about low FPS on PC while on PS3 it's even worse even with upscale.

In my personal experience i had 2 crashes within 60 hours of gameplay. and the game runs at 50-55 FPS @ 1980*1200 on my R9 380X GPU.

So I'm rather satisfied with my PC experience.

>>172860326
you mean ps4 right?

>>172859938
Why not both?

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>>172860124
She cared about 9S too much to entrust him to someone else who doesn't care.

>>172859963
This is a legit interesting point. Makes you wonder if 9S was put with an E-type JUST for his curiosity, you know?

I need to chew on these stories more. Like, the Beast weapons with the stories of the three princesses. The Spear is so sad, goddamn.

>>172860382
Yeah i do.
From what i know you get like 40 fps @ 720p upscale on PS4, and 40+ fps without upscale (or is it 900p upscale?) on PS4 PRO

>>172860016
theres a fan mod that fixes the issues that are introduced in the pc version (resolution glitch and cutscene choppiness) and that are carried over from the ps4 version (really shitty framerate). It also adds functionality to increase bloom resolution and forcibly smooth out the framerate

>>172860124
They should rotate and memory wipe Es in my opinion. That sidequest already showed that having them attached to the target is not healthy.

I thinkt that game is missing some heavy emotional hit when you get order to kill 9S yourself. On the other hand being this straightforward could ruin the relation we know.

>>172860016
Use FAR, dude who made it is a legend. Its the same guy who fixed most of the Tales ports. I played on both PS4 and PC, and the PC version is definitely smoother. The port is crappy but fans have fixed it.

>>172860124
For a different female to be near her shota? Hurting him instead of trying to silently, painlessly backstab him?
Unacceptable.
She got jealous simply because 9S admitted that redhead is cute. Now imagine if brainwashed 9S was spending entire missions with someone else.

>>172860658
No, you get 60fps @ 900p on base PS4 and 1080p upscale on Pro. Framerates can dip down to 40s.

On PS4, PS4 Pro and PC the cutscenes are all rendered at 900p. The stutters that happen on PS4 versions happen on PC as well.

Do you think that the initial mission to the Factory was intended for every unit besides 2B to be wiped out?

>>172860965
From what i remember they didn't even had a manual control when it began so they couldn't avoid the Goliath fire.

>>172860965
2B survived because she wasn't targeted by the laser.
Maybe she was lucky.
Maybe the commander turned off the stealth for everyone other than 2B and the rest of them were decoys.

Cant be sure, but that sounds like too much to assume without any hints.

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>>172861048
>so they couldn't avoid the Goliath fire.

I think you cant escape once you're locked on, it's a fucking laser, the speed of light and so on.

Think about it when one is targeted the rest of them are aware of it and dodge to the sides, but the one locked on cant dodge.
If they added something like
>HOLY SHIT I'M LOCKED ON CANT DO SHIT
The scene would look significantly less stupid than it did

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>>172839898
You can't just approach a Japanese girl in a store or on the street, in Japanese culture, there is a place for everything to happen. It is unfortunate, but the most you could hope for on a cold approach is to chat about an interest and maybe slowly build into a relationship over time.

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Female 9S is qt.

>>172862942
>female 9S (male) with long hair
I WALK INTO HELL
WITH NO REGRETS

Emil nendoroid when

>>172863043
Futafags go away, female 9S is 100% pure 100% maiden

>>172862942
Female 9S when

>>172860965
i'm guessing all of them were supposed to be wiped out as usual.

>>172861538
the laser particles warning are probably about as visible to them as n2 was in route b, meaning not at all, and was only a visual cue for the player.

it was like they're flying around while nothing's happening and suddenly before anyone manages to blink a laser beam blasts one's face off.

>>172860965
At least one of them got hit on purpose. Maybe all of them were traitors that command was trying to get rid of.

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I really liked this game - the story and the characters. Everything!

Should I get the Drakengard series and the original Nier?

I can get them both for 60 bucks and that seems like the cheapest possible way right now except for finding one at Gamestop or something

Is is worth it guys? I'm really poor and 60 bucks is a lot for me (lol i know right ;_;)

do you think they will reprint the games or come out with a remaster anytime soon??

please respond

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Just finished the game and unlocked chapter select.
Although I had an incredible time, my biggest complaint would be levels aren't scaled when you go to chapter select to fight the first few bosses again.
Any chance they're gonna make in an option soon? I just wanna have an intense battle with Simone again.

>>172863901
im talking about drakengard 3 and the original nier

got lucky and bought drakengard 1 and 2 for just 12 bucks

also do you think these games will end up going up even more in price?

i remember checking out og nier for 2-3 months ago and it was going for 10 bucks on ebay, amazon etc. now its almost up to 50

>>172856061
9S dreaming **** things with 2B most likely. Thank you anon!

>>172863901
Grab them from VGP and get free shipping

>>172864961
nier was cheaper there, but they didn't have drakengard

thanks anyways tho! saving a few bucks on nier there!

>>172866259
Reminder that A2 still has 2B's memories which means she will fall for 9S too.

>>172858298
Did Caim fuck Manah?

>>172858298
all of these games since drakengard 1 included short stories with no real connection to the game itself, I don't know why everyone is trying to draw connections to everything else in automata

>tfw all i can do to take away the pain of 100%ing the game in its entirety is to write fanfic between playing a new playthrough entirely

>>172866707
No he fucked his dragon waifu.

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>>172867056
Please write 9S jacking off with 2B's hand.

>>172859920
Oh right (it makes sense now that you pointed it out).

>>172866467
Memories and personality are separate things anon. She knows of 2B's feelings doesn't mean she shares them.

>>172867276
gomen ne i only write pure nines/2b romance to soothe everyone's souls after a long suffering period

kinda hot if a little insane though

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>>172867502
It's okay. Pure hand holding is fine too.