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lvl 3 bot appreciation edition

Past Thread: >>172697829

First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
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>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
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http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
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>>172804001
is the lvl 3 ai allowed to cheat?
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FIRST FOR THE LAW WILL BE BROUGHT
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first for stomp is best
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>>172804094

yes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9eqkXdiR90

Did L&D die? Any writefagging of it yet?
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>>172804103
>>172804096
fuck
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>>172804094
>>172804150
what did that bot do? feint a light or something?
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W H E N
H
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>>172804235
It's trying to feint->GB
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not gonna happen, maybe Turok though
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>>172804337
WHEN?
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>>172804454
for >>172804337
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>three orders for skirmish player vs ai
>low activity
i might have to start teaming up with anons at this rate
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>>172804614
why don't you just turn off matchmaking dingus
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>>172804614
I just turned off matchmaking for the skirmish ai challenges.
Seriously though, does ANYONE even fucking like Skirmish?
>Always a massive cluster fuck, everyone getting revenge nonstop
>You can almost never complete a fucking combo because teammates are interrupting you with attacks
>Star powerup means at any moment some faggot is going to throw a catapult/grenade/fireflask
>Impossible to do anything because people always roam in packs and are perfect ganking squads of people spamming lights and GBs
It's such a shitty fucking mode
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stay mad cucks,

X'th for antisemitic posts
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(((())))
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>>172804884
I wouldn't care except that you are a good goy and buy steel. How can you be a nazi and give into jewish tricks?
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>>172804103
Wrong
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>>172805017
T.broke ass nigga
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>>172804884
>>172805017

Hes just an attention whore, will pay up for it.
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>>172805052
coolness is the only stat that matters
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>>172805017
i havent spent a cent on steel, im i just dont give into temptation and splurge all of my cash on random shit unless i want to, better to save it for the new champions coming out soon.
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>>172804797
I actually think the star-powerup is rather underwhelming, compared to something like shields.
It doesn't even reset the cooldown, so once you've gotten enough renown it's literally useless.

If it were to reset cooldowns though, people would be fighting over it.
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>>172804884
Not him but I've currently saved up 20k steel. I'm waiting for the new characters to drop, I have the season pass, but I'm hoping they get their own special mythic outfit that I can show off with
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>>172805061
>buying steel
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>>172805304
It's an easy kill though especially with the catapults.
>One minute into the game
>Grab the star
>Launch a catapult onto the cluster fuck of players
>Get three or four kills
>By the time you unlock catapult the cool down is over
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>>172805541
But it's useless until you're back up to it legit, (which is how long the timer is on those things), and even worse if your class doesn't have a strong t-4 option.

It's good if you grab it early, and then it's an afterthought.
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>Playing elimination
>Fighting a Roach
>Friendly Shug shows up, think I've got some good back up, he'll probably hug him if he gets the chance
>All Shug fucking does is oni charge past us nonstop, try to knock down the Roach and constantly knocking me down
>Random enemy shows up, turns out Shug never even killed his guy, just ran straight to me turning my fight into a gangbang
THANKS SO MUCH FOR HELPING
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How am I supposed to deal with Orochis who just spam top lights and zones? I block top and they will just throw a top light at me despite this. I'll literally just block it but it's insanely fast for me to parry, and I cannot react in time to block the zone attack most of the time (let alone even fucking parry it)

I feel like whenever I duel an Orochi, it's just them spamming attacks at me at random in hopes of interrupting anything I do. There isn't hardly any method to any of the duel - it's just me getting nicked over and over by their lights and zones and the odd guardbreak into top heavy and before I know it, I'm dead or in the red.
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>>172805760
A smart Shugoki just Demon Embraces people in a gangbang.
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>>172804425
Feint>GB isn't cheating.
Soft-feinting a GB>Light is.
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>>172806261
Try playing defensive yourself & if you can't gb/parry then try using dodges/lights.
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Anyone use the elite controller? i forgot i could adjust the thumbsticks and was thinking it might help my guard swap a bit.

Whats a nice way to set the right thumbstick?
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>Friendly lawbringer has joined the fight! You're 2v1!
>Oops! Enemy PK has revenge now
>H-hey where are you going? Friendly lawbringer needs your help
>Friendly lawbringer needs food badly
>Friendly lawbringer has died
>Friendly lawbringer has been executed
>You have captured the C point!
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>>172806462
never said it was cheating

Though they do cheat in other ways.
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>>172804884
>leaving yourself open to being b&
baka tbhwy senpai
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>>172806581
Oh I thought you were, sorry.
The AI will indicator glitch on Zones and stance glitch to stay up on assassins, but I'm not sure if they do anything complex like GB feints or unlock unblockables.
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>Fighting a Warden
>They're losing
>Suddenly they start doing nothing but shouldering
Really sick of this bullshit
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>>172806465
I feel like such an idiot. I'll try to actively play more defensively against them; my approach has always been more aggressive and it slipped my mind to tone things down so I stop getting my shit hit.
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>Community events are supposed to be 2000 steel now
>We get a 3-crate event as an "apology"
>Crates are 500 steel
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christ no wonder i can't switch my guard well. The dead zone is fucking huge.
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>>172807049
>crates aren't even convertible into Steel
>I've got 25,000 Viking Salvage and it's literally useless
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Time for another edition of >PK mains: can't dodge/parry the slowest heavy in the game edition.
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>Literally the main thing everyone complains about with PK is how fucking fast her light spam is and that it's nearly unblockable
>Devs finally confirm she's getting a nerf
>They don't touch her light attacks at all
FUCKING WHY? I literally have PKs beating me without ever throwing a single fucking heavy attack because I can't keep up with their spam
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>>172805171
>only 22k
>trying to save
i got the mythic knight outfit for warden, the Elite for warden, and the Blood Spider for lawman and I have 29k. Play the game or gtfo trash kiddo.
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>>172807515
If you are on pc you can edit deadzones with steam big picture
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>>172807830
They're nerfing her zone, and they said a disproportionate chunk of her damage was coming from her side-dodge stabs, so those are getting nerfed too. They're buffing her deflect stab because no one was using it and they want to make it more attractive.

They also said they will take a closer look at her LL chain.
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>>172808130
Her zone was a problem, I have no idea who the fuck couldn't keep up with her dash attacks though. Her main problem is that she's literally easy mode with how fast her fucking light attacks are. And I say this as someone with a few reps in PK, all she has to do is spam lights in random directions, throw in a zone occasionally, and GB after parrying for easy wins
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>>172808130
>>172808278

Devs are confirmed PK mains, boys
Convert or get used to losing
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>>172808130
I wonder how the devs patch this game. Most the good people that stream are on pc but 90% of the player base is on ps4 at 30fps. Pk main issue is zone and flicker bug that all characters have but people bitch about her light that is same speed as valk??
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>>172808090
i'm fucked, thanks though.

I don't get why the deadzone setting for the elite controller don't work.
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>>172808527
I personally have a harder time with valk, flicker aside, I can parry PK lights a lot of the time, but valk just shits on my and I miss the dodge on the sweep and I get raped.

But I also have more experience fighting PK so that might be why
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>>172808630
wait, i'm not sure what fixed it, but i tried making a new config and restarted everything which seemed to have made it more tolerable.
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>>172808278
>I have no idea who the fuck couldn't keep up with her dash attacks though.
Anyone who takes a swing at Peacekeeper. Peacekeepers will instinctively sidedash-stab instead of parry or deflect or whatever. This is for several reasons.
>Dodges the attack, so they don't have to worry about parry timing or whatever
>Gets a chunky stab
>Can immediately do the bleed followup for even more damage
>Counts as a heavy, so it can trigger executions
Peacekeepers never need to learn how to parry, because lel dash-stab.
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>>172808856
Plus, even if they do block her sidestep-stab, it's still relatively safe. This is why they're reducing its damage and making it more unsafe on block.
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>>172808856
Sidedash stab beats all attacks and GBs in its current state. It's a ridiculous mechanic.

That said not touching PK light spam is almost just as ridiculous.
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>>172808984
>relatively safe
It's practically a free parry
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Congratulations Lawbringer for making it to the "everyone hates you" tier!
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>>172808757
Valk gets unblockable bashes instead of stabs/bleeds.
I can see them being harder to deal with if you can 'parry PK lights a lot of the time'. Do you have trouble with conk?
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>>172809474
You've already posted this
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>>172808856
>counts as a heavy
WHAT
..and I thought I was lucky to have my leaping overhead..

t berserker
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>>172809621
At least when I eat a zerker's overhead leap I feel like I deserved it. PK is gay.
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>>172809621
Kensei, Berserker, and Orochi all have light sidestep attacks.
Peacekeeper has heavy sidestep attacks.
Nobushi is the only character with both (neither of which are actually used to dodge anything).
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>>172809491
If it's a good conq who doesn't attack unless he hits his bash, then of course due to lack of being able to deal damage to him, but all others, no. I can dodge the bashes pretty well and parry their neural or post dodged bash attacks all day
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>>172809412
Safe on block, I mean. That's why they're making her sidedash-stabs more unsafe on block.
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>>172809474
He still cant swap stances fast enough.

Jittery faggot PK players will still rape his angus.
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>People think Raider is low tier
>When he can fluidly switch between a side attack to a top stunning hit
>Instant access to an unblockable heavy that he can feint nonstop when you're out of stamina
In good hands Raider is fucking hard to beat
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>>172809474
>implying they weren't hated before
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>>172805052
>valk's headbutt takes the longest
>longer than shugoki sitting on a guy
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>Assassins who wildly spin their guard in neutral
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>>172810031
The first feature is his ONLY mixup and the second only ever comes in handy for exhausted 50/50s, which don't even work on assassins
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>>172810031
can't wait for people to realize they can just dash through the unblockable when out of stamina. I've gotten it to a point were I can react to if they feint it or not and choose to dash or not
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>>172810031
>nonstop
>takes >50% of your stamina to feint it once
>90% to launch into it again

He can't even get a successful punish off a GB/parry unless you fuck up.

In good hands, anything else is harder to beat.
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>>172810169
I was doing that and a guy called me a hacker for doing a cgb while I was doing it.

Spacebar grab = OP
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>>172810292
Do you dash into the unblockable, or away from it?
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So, a bot grabbed me (valk) out of a back-dash charge.
Was it cheating or is that a legit technique?
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>>172810662
into. When I play as Raider, and people try to dash back I end up still hitting them, Im not sure about dashing with it, but I feel like it would hit
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Are the Law buffs going to matter that much if he still doesn't have a way to initiate an attack without getting blocked/parried?
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>yfw you're up against a rep 17 PK
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>>172811145

interesting.
I've noticed that raider heavies have a lot of tracking too. I wonder if dashing in beats them as well.
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>>172811176
They enhance his play-style of disabling and counter attacking, Law isn't supposed to be good at attacking. top light will still be a good go to to prod the enemy into doing something, and with faster combos it will be easier to trick people into going for parries or hitting followups when you get someone on the ground.

I think the changes are great, Law will still have to rely on how the enemy plays so he wont be top tier still, but he is far from bad too.

With the new hyper armor on his zone and possibly increased damage, I'm looking forward to trying to zone trade with orochis and PKs ans see how that goes
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>>172811405
I'll just flat out quit against high rep PKs. I don't care if it makes me look like a puss, I'm playing on console and literally cannot keep up with PK light spam. If I'm playing elimination and they have more than one high rep PK I'm quitting.
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>>172811540
I've jumped on the Law train since the buffs were announced. I always liked his look, but he was just too bad to win with reliably. He's pretty fun though, I've got him to rep 1 already.
Problem seems to be that most of his heavy hitting damage relies on GBs right now
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Roach mains I got a quick question: does Riptitde Strike not let you do parries when you input it?

I feel like I'm hitting parries with that sometimes but I end up starting my back step animation.
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>When the patch hits elimination buffs won't spawn for the first 20 seconds of rounds
Who else is expecting assassins to run around the map in circles until the buffs spawn when they abandon fights?
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>Entire site being le epic pranked with this combing shit
>Rick and Morty just cucked samurai jack

Fuck this Holiday

Fuck this site
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Everyone agrees that Shugoki is the best character, right?
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>>172811930
Who isn't?
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>mfw i got 2 copies of this game for free when i bought my computer parts and it literally isnt worth my time playing

where were you when ubisoft made a game that wasnt even worth 0 dollars?
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>>172812114

Everyone who matters
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>>172812114
incorrect, that's warlord followed by PK
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>>172812287
not after the patch, fucboi
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>>172812219

>where were you when ubisoft made a game that wasnt even worth 0 dollars?


I was in 1986
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>>172811705
He is fun, but yeah. A lot of his damage right now comes from GB; side heavy, shove, back into GB. You can mix it up a little to put an opponent on their toes but anyone that knows how to counter will shut this down pretty hard.
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>>172812287
(excepting warlord players because 99% of them are delusional and believe their char is balanced or even underpowered)

>>172812324
oh yeah that's right, the patch
i still think warlord is gonna be really strong, and i still think PK's gonna be incredibly problematic

it depends on the severity of the nerfs i suppose
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>>172812114
It depends if you mean "Best" as in "Most Fun" or "Best" as in "Most competitively viable"
If its the former he's definitely a top contender, if its the latter he's high tier but surpassed by five or six classes that he just cannot deal with.
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Law mains, what's the best gear for him? I'm thinking of going with max stamina cost reduction and then defense. Am I making a mistake?
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>Facing a Lawbringer
>He's a MUH HONOR fag
>Until he starts to lose
>He pops revenge in a duel
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>>172812381
Yeah I've noticed. I actually ran into one guy who couldn't counter GB once and I killed him all in one combo without him touching me. But most people will shut it down after a single GB
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>>172812449
t. peaceshitter
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>>172812098
That some Kurosawa?
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>>172812449

>letting a lawbringer block
>ever

lolwut
you're not... bad... are you?
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>Playing Kensei
>Enemy picks Conq
>Quit

There's no point. I rarely quit, but Conquerors? No. You can't do anything. You dodge the charge? You have no follow up. You can't light them because their light comes out faster, and you can't guard break them because their light comes out too fast.

>Just wait for the light and parry it!

They only use the light if they see you try to grab or attack. Plus, if you parry it, you get a single heavy. You have to make two 50/50 guesses and hope the enemy fucks up to get a single heavy in, but he needs to press two buttons.
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>>172812449
>giving someone revenge
>in 1v1
throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks is not a valid strat
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>>172812579
Case and point.
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>we want to buff Law in duels
>lets makes the chains that are not useable in duels do more damage

What did they mean by this?
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>>172812750

>What did they mean by this?

That they want law to be more dominant in 4v4 and maybe a tiny bit less bad in 1v1

Seems obvious.
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>>172812579
>>172812670
>>172812720
I was a Kensei, he was LB. We both had Revenge up, but I didn't pop mine. The entire fight was both players chipping away desperately.
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>>172812750
>get free impale after parry
>throw into wall
>top heavy to light
>feint heavy to gb
>throw into wall again
>top light
>regain stamina
easy
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>>172812521
Which is why you mix in some of the stuff that peeps might not expect or rarely see from a LB. That charging side heavy can really throw people off if you back up mid fight to start it cause it's not exactly common. Same with a Long arm after a shove if you've not done it in a while but have tried some GBs.

You work extra hard for a win in 1v1 but damned if it doesn't feel great when you win. Remind those creeps just whose the LAW around here.
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>>172812719
First, I don't think they're reacting to your light with their own, they just got lucky with the timing. Theirs is slow too, just not AS SLOW.
Second, try whiffing.
Third, dash-attack their bashes.
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>>172812670
>>172812720
Not him, but revenge by injury is fucking ridiculous right now.
>Fighting a Roach in elimination
>Pushing his shit in, he's blocked a couple attacks, but I'm hitting him nonstop
>As he's about to die he gets revenge and two shots me with that retarded zone bug
Seriously, revenge by injury is so fucking cancer
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>>172813012
I'm working at learning his moveset inside and out so I can fully appreciate him after the patch hits. Knowing Ubi though it's probably gonna be a couple weeks
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>>172813038
not him, but can't kensei's dash attacks be blocked? i was playing with a kensei the other day (a good one, might i add) who was complaining he couldn't
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>>172811540
I think the zone is only getting hyper armor after a parry.

I don't think the standard zone is getting shit.
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How tf do I beat kensei
methamphetamine-tier light autos, best mix up and that sperg out dodge attack. what are his weaknesses
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>>172813268
His side dashes are absurdly slow and only work in very rare cases where literally any other attack would work better, and his forward overhead light can be blocked. If your opponent is turtling, especially as Warlord or Conq, you're simply fucked. Whenever I watch "high level" people play Kensei, their opponents never seem to hard turtle and I don't know why. They also seem to rarely face Conquerors, even though every other match I have is against one.
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>>172813396
dude he's like, the weakest character in the game
his side lights are garbage, it's only his top light that's even on-par with the other characters

his mixup is agonisingly slow compared to some of the others and his dodge attack is a free GB on block while being painfully slow

g i t g u d
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>>172813115
I'd be ok with removing that one in particular from the game.
It just makes it so that you have to contend with revenge before you can off someone, and rewards them for poor play/spending steel on higher-tier equipment.
>b-but assassins don't block, so they won't get as much revenge from defense as other classes!
Good. You're an assassin, you have dodges & revenge-from-attack perks.

>revenge from attack
Maybe we should replace injury with this one?
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>>172813268
I think it depends on which direction their guard was before they bashed.
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>>172813396
He can't use any of them, ever, unless you attack first or fall for a trick.
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>>172813396
Kensei has nothing going for him besides feinting. Stay away from walls so he can't wallbang you into his overhead unblockable
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>>172813396

The first step is understanding the difference between kensei and orochi...
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>Elimination matches regularly start with a team missing a player or even two
Why is this bullshit acceptable? Bots contribute almost nothing to the team because they're so fucking easy to ledge
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>>172813876

>playing 4v4 modes

nobody to blame but yourself
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>>172813393
If they could make ALL his parry attacks viable and not just shit you try to do after a light parry would be nice. Parry into GB still beats out all of them right now for being more reliable depending on how far from your target you are.
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>>172814015
Orders are orders
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>>172814046
>Dominion Order
>Capture 15 zones
>Spend an entire match invading enemy territory and fighting 1v4 to capture zones
>Feel like I must have at least 6
>Only got 3

Fuck it.
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>>172814460
I think it only counts if you initiated it.
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>>172814015
Why are there so many apologists who think it's okay for the matchmaking to be broken because "lmao why are you playing 3 out of the 5 modes?"
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>Playing the Law in elimination
>Get matched against a Beserker
>They grab me and throw me to a ledge, I just barely hit the wall and avoid falling off
>They fail a second GB right in front of me
>Grab them and throw them off
>They quit instantly
Are people really this much of fucking pansies? What's with this "It's okay if I ledge you, but I'll quit if you ledge me" attitude?
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>>172815006

Because the basic problem with matchmaking for online team games isn't matchmaking. The problem is that people are trash.

It is common to every team-based online game and it is not a solvable problem.
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>two shugokis on enemy team
>they always stay together
>just doing their charge move over and over
>if you hit them they knock you over and get a free hit
>if you dodge they charge away too far and fast to punish
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>>172814046
You can grind through it.

>>172814460
Defending zones is also profitable.v
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>>172815780

Dodge in the direction they are charging and then GB. May have to unlock to get the GB to track hard enough, but it is totally doable.
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>>172815764
We're not talking about all games, we're talking about this game. And the number one problem is connection issues and the matchmaking. You don't just brush that aside with "all games are like this"
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>Playing elimination as a new character, want to level them up
>Get matched against a 108 Roach first round
>Absolutely fucking style on him, he's complete shit
>He's two hits from dead
>Hit him
>He gets revenge and two shots me
Whoever thought revenge by injury was a good idea should be shot
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i have never played a game that people rage quit as much as for honor.

this is some reddit tier shit
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>be Law main
>be shit for brains when fighting warden
>try to dodge vortex instead of boop on snoot or roll away
>get BTFOed 0-3
>switch to conq out of anger
>bash -> light
>3-0 the warden
>he somehow didn't know conq was most OP class
I feel bad, but at the same time I don't. Vorex costs like nothing, warden has a lot of good stuff to work with and all I ever fight is le free damage 50/50.

Overall I'm the baddie for not corectly dealing with vortex, but the thing is law can't do anything that warden can't do better. If I top light he crushing counter strikes, if I side light he parries, If I feint he GBs, if I gb he counters, If I bash nothing happens or he dodges and gets free attack, my zone is useless, long dong is useless. He played passive except for zones while I'm feinting or attacking and vortex so parries are not going to happen.
It just sucks
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>>172816030

connection has been pretty stable this weekend, imo.

not that that excuses the previous issues.
matchmaking is obviously based off of ELO (aka win rate) and that causes problems both in team games and with the gear score thing.

The weirdest thing about matchmaking in For Honor is that it would feel WAY the fuck more fair if the game just lied to you about the prestige level of your opponents. Like, just display N where N equals the prestige level of your chosen character plus or minus one and 80% of matchmaking complaints would vanish instantly.
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>>172817030
>switch to conq out of anger
sad

hand in your halberd
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>>172816526
There are certain conditions where I'll quit.
>Enemy team has multiple 108 gear PKs
>Enemy team is entirely 108 gear and my own team has people below rep 1
>If I have a teammate who's the last alive and decides they'd rather spend 2 minutes running around the map in elimination rather than just fucking fight and get it over with
>If someone is teleporting around and kills me, or the game lags and rolls back with someone killing me even though they were about to die before the roll back
>If my team has honorfags
>If the enemy is doing nothing but turtling or cheese tactics
>If the game starts out my team with two bots
I don't care if it makes me look like a bitch, sometimes quitting is acceptable
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>>172817281
it's not a halberd, ha!
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>>172817030

>conq
>op

wut
conq is mid-tier at best
gets shit on by literally anyone with a chargeable anything or better-than-usual GBs, parry, deflect, side dash, unblockable, move speed, headbutt, or like... fucking anything.

all you have to do to crush conq is beat all-block. he has nothing else.
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>>172817115
>connection has been pretty stable this weekend, imo.
It really hasn't. Today I spent two fucking hours trying to finish the skirmish challenges because every time one team was losing people would quit and it would crash the entire game.
I also got dropped from several brawl matches because of a connection error. Basically every 3rd or 4th game will either crash or have someone drop out, which is not acceptable.


Rep level doesn't matter at all, what does matter is the gear score. I can play a brand new character in 4v4 modes, absolutely shit on someone, but they get revenge thanks to revenge gain by injury and two shot me
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>>172817313
Nah you are just a bitch.
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>>172817424
shield bash beats other bashes and gives free light. It's only punishable by Raider who can GB mid dodge.

Conq can literally do nothing but bash > light all game and win without an issue
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>>172817505

revenge fix is supposedly incoming.
it has been a long fucking wait.
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>>172817424
you cannot damage a conqueror that only ever uses shield bash in neutral and doesn't make stupid mistakes, assuming you both have good fundamentals

he's unpunishable on almost everything
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>>172817621

conq bash is like a hundred times more telegraphed and easier to deal with than warden's shit, and I can deal with most wardens.

Conq is ezpz. If you can't handle them, you're bad. Really, really bad.
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>>172817605
I don't give a shit. I'm not staying so a Warlord can feel like he's super skilled for doing nothing but waiting to parry or headbutting, or for a PK to spam rb in random directions and talk about how skilled they are.
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>>172817889
it's really not, it's much faster than every other push in the game, except warlords headbutt, but that can't be done off of a side dash
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>>172817690
It really has. I'm just so fucking sick of absolutely crushing a Roach just for them to get revenge
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>>172817621
>"oh no my health is at 1 pip"
>just backdash away
>conq can do nothing
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>>172818118

It really is.

I only have very occasional trouble against conq with like... Raider.
Anyone with any tool at all to beat allblock opens them up for free. Just play more patient.
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>>172818335
okay dude, this top tier character that has been dominating every tourney that everyone agrees is very difficult to damage AT ALL, is actually mediocre

back to square one guys
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>>172818286
except unlock heavy after a gb.
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>>172818286
sprinting slam vs gb is a 50/50 though, plus >>172818439
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>>172804001
dubs decides my new main
quads decides who i main and how long i main them for
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>>172818286
well that's not true see >>172818439
and >>172818535
plus you can't do anything to him

>>172817889
doesn't matter if you can dodge it, you can't punish it

>>172817281
I just beat a rep 5 warlord with Law, does that make up for it? I'll admit he wasn't too good, but he wasn't too bad either
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>Enemy team has a PK bot that techs every single fucking GB, and she's too fucking fast to parry single it only throws out lights
>My team has a bot that gets ledged within the first 30 seconds of the match
Why does this always fucking happen?
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>>172818694
here is the vid of me playing conq to get back at the warden, I do make a lot of mistakes cause I don't have too much experience playing as him
https://youtu.be/t0nJBSA76eU
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>>172818643
black female berzerker
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>Guy tries ledging me in elimination
>Ledge him
>Next couple rounds he ends up getting gangbanged
>Messages me after saying I'm bad for having to ledge and gank
>Tell him it's 4v4 and to git gud
>He just repeats back git gud with an emoji
Why is the player base so fucking autistic? What makes someone lose and then decide to send hatemail acting as if they won?
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>>172818898
So fucking close dude.

>>172818643
>Seconding this
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>>172818643
Lawbringer until the 2nd faction war is over
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>>172818643
black shugoki
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>>172818643
Shugoki

Until one hundred people have complained about your back break
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>>172818643
A big guy untill Ubi crashes the game with no survivors
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>>172818643
kys instead
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>>172818643
Nobushi.
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>>172819407
reroll
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>>172818643
Peacekeeper until they nerf her
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ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
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pretty sure valkyrie mains are just people who want a crutch but don't want the stigma of picking pk
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Why does every player who uses cheese (Warlord headbutts, Conq bashes, PK lights, Valk sweeps) insist it's "super easy to beat" and "really punishable", when those statements are objectively false and laughable? Do they delude themselves into thinking that to preserve an ego?
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>>172820382
Dude, using incredibly rapid lights over and over until eventually they hit while occasionally turtling and bashing your enemy is way more skillful than PK's using incredibly rapid lights over and over and occasionally turtling for a dodge into double stab.
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I thought this was pretty funny
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>>172820532
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>>172820415
if you cheese for every win and tell yourself that it's really easy to counter than you feel better about yourself, it's kinda like if a hacker told himself that he could totally do as well without hacks, U no wut I sayin' ?
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>>172818643
you do know dubs are disabled on /vg/
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>>172818643
PK 1 day
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>elimination
>playing shug
>spawn in vs the prestige 4 pk
>pk IMMEDIATELY fucking tears ass away off towards a boost or some shit
>leave game
for honor got a lot more relaxing after I stopped taking all the cancerous horseshit as some sort of git gud challenge and just don't put up with it

highly recommend
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>>172821369
I personally stopped playing Shug in elimination because this kept happening. I kept losing elimination games because faggots would instantly run to gank knowing they could probably kill my teammate before I could even catch them
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>>172807904
>I have too much time on my hands
>>
>decide to try out kensei because i want to learn another hero
>first game face a rep 1 warlord
>then a rep 6 nobushi
>then a rep 9 warlord
>after 2 rounds of losing to the warlord right as he is about to kil me the third time a network error occurs sends me back to the menu
>the next game is against the same warlord
I WANT TO GET OFF UBIS WILD RIDE
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>Playing Law in elimination
>Last one alive on enemy team is a Conq
>It's 3v1, run over and start flipping Conq back and forth
>Warden just stops fighting and watches
Fucking Honorfags, I swear to god
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>>172821054
Vertical resolution should be a multiple of 16.
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>>172822314
>Playing Kensei

Don't. 90% of players know you counter him just by cheesing since he has no way to punish or open up turtles.
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Wow, I just really love packet loss, it's so fun.

desu it's my fault for playing at 2am, Im just going to fight 10x more Euros
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>>172821435
I fucking hate law players
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Conq looks amazing, but i keep getting addicted to heavy bashing.

Any tricks?
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>>172822630
swap your heavy and light bindings or just practice following with light unless you bash them into a wall
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>>172812634
No it's the movie harakiri. Good to check out if you like kurosawa though
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>Played mostly LB since release due to aesthetic and V E R S A T I L I T Y
>Don't have the spare time to put 6+ hours into this game every day, more like 2 every other day if I'm lucky
>Finally getting good at LB right when the buff is announced
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>>172822630
The Conqueror's trick is that there is no trick. You can swap heavies for lights, but that's about it.
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>>172805052
what do the stars mean?? this is very helpful in elim
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>>172822630
Shield bash is the only safe move Conq has for itself. Everything else is slow and shitty, and some can parry even the 600ms lights since they're on the slower end of spectrum. It's crucial for a conq to position the enemy's back against a wall, since that's the only way a conqueror can deal heavy damage. A good opponent knows to try to avoid this.

Also despite the shield block is good, you shouldn't neglect parrying. It's the only reliable way for you to GB and use that to position your enemy.
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>>172822940
It means the time might not be precise, due to lack of good footage to measure.
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>>172822940
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveForHonor/comments/6132bk/executions_time_it_takes_to_kill_your_enemy/
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>>172805052
>impaler has the fastest kill time in the game
yeah that's what I figured

>tfw opponents are too bad to stop your execution, so you waste like 5 extra seconds
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>>172822964
>wearing full plate armor
>wielding a tiny wooden shield

For what purpose? He'd have better protection by just getting hit in the plated arm, and it'd free up a hand to use a longer weapon.
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>>172822770
Expect everyone and their mother to be a Law bringer when the buff hits. People love flocking to the new powerful character
I've just got him to rep 1 level 10, by the time the buff drops I'll have him rep 3 and blend in with the commited Lawfags
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>>172823158
wood absorbs shock better than metal as well as enemy weapons can get stuck in it effectively disarming them.
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>>172823158
>I don't understand how armor and shields work
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>>172823158
Have you ever used a metal baseball bat to hit anything? Imagine that painful fucking shock every time someone hits your metal shield. That's why you want wood idiot
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>>172823226
he will be the same pretty much, speeding up combos and making long dong slightly less shit isn't going to make him top tier or even close
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>>172823226
They merely adopted the Lawbringer. I was born to it, molded by it. I didn't see a usable attack chain until I was already Rep5.
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Conq sure does shitty damage. I hope they tweak him some for the better when they nerf him.
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>>172824343
He'll definitely be more viable though. And he may get future buffs considering he still doesn't have a way to actually open up the enemy except through GBs
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>>172823226
Well, the thing about LB is that he needs the changes, it isn't some arbitrary buff out of nowhere. As a LB, you can move people around and trip them and parry them all day long, but actually doing any damage is out of the question against anyone but a shitter. Sure, you can bop someone with a light, but I can also walk the 12 miles to work instead of driving and that shit isn't any more viable either.

People already seem to have this misconception that the LB buff is going to make it the most pubstompingest character since the beta Valkyrie, when what it actually seems to do is simply bring him up to level where he can now just straight up fight and kill you, instead of spending the entire game wrestling you over to a cliff.

Expect to see a lot of shitters whining that LB isn't the hand of god they think he is and the popularity drop off sharply within a week.
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Holy shit conq is awful in teamfights.
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>>172825120
conq is garbage in any game mode where you can't gearstat your stamina to bash chain 5+ times before fatiguing
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>>172825120
>Holy shit conq is awful in teamfights.
>Run around them and bash them in the back
>bad
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>tfw perfect opening to a dom match
https://my.mixtape.moe/tdaylf.webm
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>Absolutely fucking up a team in elimination
>Round 2 the last two alive on the enemy teams are Conq and they run to the bridge on Forest and emote nonstop
>We take them by storm and throw them off, they manage to ledge all of us
>Next round their entire team immediately abandons fights and all four of them run to the bridge
This shit is cancer
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It's sort of funny how conqueror is considered so high tier. For me it feels like 90% of this is because of the unblockable bash mechanic. It's a SAFE move. Much safer than anything else in the game and all classes who have that with some follow-up attack are considered remarkably high tier. If conqueror wouldn't have that though, they'd be probably as bad if not worse than Kensei is now. Conq doesn't have a single 500ms move, the flail spin is completely worthless unless you're smacking someone in the back in 2v1, and their zone attack is among the absolute worst against other players.

tl:dr, if shield bashing gets nerfed, they better fucking do some buffs or reworking of the skills.
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>>172825086
Seeing how noobs whine about him makes me think that he will be the perfect noobstomper
>>
>Parry a Nobushi
>Can't follow it up because she's a mile away
Why is this bullshit allowed? There's no reason for me to even parry her except to drain her stamina
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>>172825492
maybe I'm not having fun with law because I'm not bullying shitters in Dominion.

hmm, do I continue to do duels against people who can actually fight well or do I go to dominion to get free GBs and long dongs?
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>>172825881
well if you parry a light you get free heavy, im not sure about parrying heavies, but I'm sure you can get a hit depending on character you are playing
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>>172825696
Conqueror is high tier because he is hideously safe, especially against people who don't have openers. He's a bore to play against and a bore to play as. There's nothing to him except his ludicrously safe bash. Conq doesn't need a buff or nerf, he needs a fucking rework conceptually.
>>
How do you mute people on xbox? I almost never hear faggots, but just ran into one
>Guy in the lobby has his mic open and I can hear his shitty meme remix song blaring through his horrible quality mic
>There's no in game option to mute because we're loading in
>He won't shut his fucking mic off when I tell him
>He's not yet in my recent players so I can't mute his profile
>Started a party but for some reason could still hear him
This shit was so annoying
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>>172825086
>rep 13 law
>getting ready to CURBSTOMP the fakes

they'll flock to the law but do they know of the unspoken laws? of the comradeship of lawbringers even on the other team?

yeah....they're just as good as a zone attacking orochi
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>>172826359
I got the game last week, I have an excuse for being only rep 2. also I dont do contracts and only play duel which doesn't help
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>>172826359
>Already got Law to rep 1 lvl 10 since the buff anouncement
>I'll have him to rep 3-5 when the buff actually drops
>No one will be able to tell me apart from the posers
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>two 108 PKs on enemy team
>both just wait for revenge and spam zones even when people constantly parry them
>get tired of parrying zones and do this
>they whine for the rest of the game even after they won
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>>172826542
>First character I "mained" was Law
>Play him only in duels because I can't find dominion matches
>Only Rep 3, level 10
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>>172826542
But you'll know, and that knowledge will eat away at you until you snap and turn in your pole-ax for a gladius and play flavor of the month DLC characters instead
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>>172826323
When you select their profile it's the first option in the menu.
Mid game you have to hit start and go to scoreboard instead of select.
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>trying out law, already have him to 17 via dominion
>want to see how bad his duelling is
>figuring stuff out, but im getting people levelling their characters each time
>they leave after one fight

im gonna run into a heavy soon arent i
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>>172826667
Everyone, law fags included, are going to play the new dlc characters for at least 1 rep. Especially knowing Ubisoft they'll be broken as shit
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>>172826056
Different sides of the same coin I think. He has good defense and that one thing going for him as offense. I doubt they'll stop letting conq be the "defensive" class. The one trick pony offense/punishment loop that he has needs a rework though.
>>
> 100+ hours through the game
> can't defeat turtling warlords as PK every fucking time
> remember /fhg/ telling me that my character's cancer for fast light spams
> decides to be cancer
> bested him for at least 1 round
Thank you /fhg/ for letting me realize that the only way to defeat cancer is being cancer itself. Now I have a weapon against warlords.
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Is there anything more satisfying than 3-0ing a nobushi as law and landing 5 ad mortum light parries?

except of course, killing her only using ad mortem, maybe some day
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>>172827317
I very rarely win against Nobushi as Law because most Nobushis I face only use heavies, knowing they can barely be punished if I parry it. They just turtle and occasionally use lights to jab when I dare to use a heavy.
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Its fun being a Rep 25 Bombringer looking like this in dominion.

>no stats in picture
oops

I just run around impaling people and being a huge pain in the ass.
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PK zone opener going to be a light attack is the best thing to come out of the upcoming balance patch.

I'm sort of surprised they let the GB-stab-stab-wall-dash-heavy-light combo and light spam stay as-is though, even if they say that they'll be keeping an eye out for the light spam.
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>>172827429
just widdle them down with the 8 damage slap :^)
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>>172827778
What happens when you reach the point where they can just run away and regen the damage off? Do you just pray they fuck up?
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>>172827564
>no flashbang
what kind of shitty boombringer
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>>172827838
boop them on the snoot; or impale, gb, parry dodge attack 33/33/33
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>listening to sabaton while playing muh law
>sprinting towards enemy point
>pre chorus starts up
>see enemy PK just running circles
>THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVE
>land an impaling charge that carries the bitch off the edge
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>>172827894
old picture was for the looks. I have that too.
>>
LAWBRINGER ISNT FUN WORKING FOR DAMAGE IS HARD
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>>172805052
>PK Disarmer 2.9 seconds

I thought it was shorter than that, as from what I've seen, once you cut off the arm they're executed, and that's fairly quick.
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>>172828404
Millennials these days, not willing to work for their fun
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>>172828610
IM NOT EVEN GETTING A SELF OF FULFILLMENT FROM IT, THE GRIND IS TOO ROUGH
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>we think your post is spam
fuck you 4chan I just want to link my over 3mb webms
fucking jerks
>>
webms?
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>>172828870
You can link your webms to hosting sites.
They even have sound unlike here
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webms
>>
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>>172829171
It amazes me that people call the catapult overpowered when bleed is in the game. I literally run away from assassins when they use bleed, it's fucking bullshit
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>duel order
>I main Lawbringer
>whatever
>first match
>Rep 17 Warden
>top light
>shoulder bash
>top light
>top light
>top heavy feint into top light
>shoulder bash
>lose 0-3

>next match
>Conqueror
>shield bash
>light attack
>shield bash
>light attack
>guard break
>side heavy
>shield bash
>parry
>guard break
>side heavy
>shield bash
>lose 0-3

>last match
>Peacekeeper
>...
>...
>...
>AoE
>guardbreak
>dash back
>AoE
>guardbreak
>dash back
>get him down 0-2 miraculously
>he quits and crashes the game
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kek please let this work and not be called spam
https://webmshare.com/play/EgW6x
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>>172829649
What do you expect, Duel is fucking garbage. Everybody that plays Duel is a whiny bitch that uses a top tier and complains when you ledge them or don't even bother playing against them. I just played this Warden that did nothing but turtle and feint, and when I stood by a ledge he got all cocky and started joking. He asked if he could play Raider next match and I said I wouldn't try again, and then I tossed him off when he got near and he went on complaining about how much of a pussy I was and that I wasn't cut out for "high level" play. I ended up just mashing light attack the whole last round and he sat there eating them. I won 3-1 after basically quitting and all he could do was whine and say to "take the win" when I blatantly gave him the match. We got requeued together the very next match and I went Orochi and was just going to mash on him, but he quit right away.
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>>172829572
>>172830010

dunno, I kinda like the montage-esque one.
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>>172830353
the single ad mortum one is better with audio because I made it so that he clearly says it but each clip has it's separate piece
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>>172829041
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>>172830292
>Everybody that plays Duel is a whiny bitch
Yeah that's true, by now the human trash level in that mode is LoL tier.
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>>172829649
>>172830292
>>172831476
It's sort of funny since you don't usually see that sort of shit in fighting games which are pretty much duels only. Is this because of shitty 1v1 balance?

I mean online fighting games are and remain to be salt mines, but shitty spammers and such usually get weeded out at lower skill ranks.
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>>172831709
It's because in 1v1 there's no excuses of
>I lost because my teammates were shit
>G-gear is shit
>W-wow broken feats
When you lose in duels it's because you weren't good enough to beat the other person. Though of course everyone in duels is abusing the top tier characters. So when they lose they throw a fucking tantrum trying to convince themselves it's not shit, it's just you being a scummy player
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>Dominion match
>Spend most of the fight guarding a point
>never lose the point throughout the whole match, despite 8-9 attempts by the enemy
>lost game because enemy team genuinely outplayed us
Now all I'm getting is:
>"lost because our teammate (me) wouldn't help us"

I am genuinely asking, did I do something wrong here? isn't the point of dominion to capture and keep?

Is my time better spent running around ganking the enemy? or do I have it right with the whole guarding thing?

The shit-talkers are starting to make me question myself
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>>172831948
You're in the right. Shitters don't realize that dominion is not team deathmatch, it's fucking capture the areas. Fastest way to reliably get points is to hold the areas
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>>172832041
You need 2 out of 3 points to take the lead though. If you camp one zone the whole match and don't pitch in taking mid or the opponents side, your team is just going to get shit on. whoever defend home needs to occasionally clear mid, while the rest push through to the opponents side.
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>>172831948
By boosting the point, you're most likely doing more for your team than the rest of your team is.

However, if you think that it's a good possibility that if you help your teammates, they can capture the other points, then that would be best. It's really iffy though, and almost never works like that, because if a player doesn't realize how boosting works, then they're probably shit and won't be able to hold the other points anyway.
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>want to play with a character i am not very experienced with to learn
>duel is against a rep 10 pk
>one of those guys who does the sperg dance
>and spams R1 alot
>0-2 and then its a bridge map
>of course i go for the gb throw, what the fuck else am i going to do against this cancer
>throw him of
>lol really gb gb gb gb
The irony is real
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>enemy berserker teleport striked me like 7 times
>game crashed

stop lagswitching me you barbarian
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>>172832136
mid is fucking worthless, the easiest way to win dom is have 2 sit on home and 2 take enemy home while the enemies bumble around B
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>Clanemblems
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no parry without stamina
no guardbreak after heavy parry
more chipdamage
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>>172832803
Yes parry without stamina, so people still have a reason to be baited by feints. Just remove backdash so they have to stay engaged.
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>Last 3 dom matches made me end up with drooling retards that lost with less than 200 points
Why almways me? Why?
I hate people so much I just want another fun singleplayer game.
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>>172832803
remove dodge when out of stamina
only allow counter GB

there
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>>172832864
parry not without stamina
slow dodge without stmaina
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>>172832803
No guardbreak after heavy parry would make some classes even more useless
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>>172833098
screenshot my post
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the damage nerf to pk light isn't enough, they'll still spam it after the nerf just this time they'll hit you two times more
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>>172833418
where are you getting a nerf to PK light damage from?
that isn't happening
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>>172833727
the stream
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>>172832803
>no guardbreak after heavy parry
let some classes do it

>no parry without stamina
dodging is like 99.9% a better idea in every situation when you're exhausted anyway
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>>172833987
dodge slow when exhausted
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>>172833963
As far as I know they only mentioned about the zone being treated as light, dodge heavy getting a nerf and deflect heavy getting a damage buff in the stream. They said light spam is being looked at but not touched yet.
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>>172815738

This is hilarious, they run away from open ground and stand near a ledge, they try to gb get countered fall off and quit
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>>172817424

Conq using all the glitches is unbeatable
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>>172815738
"THIS GAME'S SHIT MECHANICS ARE BULLSHIT, WHY THE FUCK DIDNT IT LATCH ON" - most likely their thought process
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>>172834560
hence why we have so many conq tournament winners....

oh....

wait...
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>>172834062
they said they're reducing her lights from 20(?) to 15
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>>172834704
they are not
they are making her side dodge attacks weaker
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>>172835006
you're right my bad, but they still need to nerf that speed or reduce the speed of that 2nd light
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>>172834605
honestly, this.

There's been countless times when the sole reason I got killed was because of a missed guardbreak.

It's either
>parry nobu, kensei, shugo, law etc
>they're "too far" to GB, so you just GB standing still and look retarded
>missed GB means their GB is free
why

>I'm an inch too far for GB
>so instead, I once again stand still and look retarded when doing it
>they get a free gb

but then
>they're quite far and I'm near ledge
>know they want to ledge me so I dodge away from him
>SUDDELY HEATSEEKING 2m RADIUS "nothing personnell, kid" -TELEPORT GRAB
STOP

bonus salt
>play shugoki
>throw someone so I can hug them
>I didn't notice/forgot they're out of stamina or I have revenge on, so my throw makes them trip and fall
>because they are now down, my hug misses and they get up in time to punish it further
F U C K
U
C
K
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>>172835754
>bonus salt
Even worse is when throwing them to the side at a wall and they somehow skate along its edge missing it. 60 for miss plus at least one heavy from them easily adds up to 90+ damage taken for some glitchy fucking wall/throw mechanics
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>>172836769
>play against an assassin
>someone does this twice
>then proceeds to avoid knockdowns and wall splats in general by using the wiggle glitch
>tells me to git gud when I point it out
not even mad, because I fucking destroyed him afterwards, but that shit is broken
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>>172836909
the little cunt wont be doing it next patch
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>>172836909
Playing 4v4
>It's a 108 PK That cannot be killed 1v1 without gaining revenge from injury
>Maxed debuff resistance
>Zone flickers
>Cannot be fall down thrown
>Spams lights agaisnt slow guard changers
>Complains about being hugged repeatedly because my team is better than his
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303rd for getting tossed off by femraider
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>>172836909
Remove assassins
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>play Shugoki
>super fucking slow, my windups take so long that anyone can hit me
>play against shugoki
>agile and super quick attacks

guess some characters aren't for me

Also, dominion is really shit, it's just a 3v1 all the time
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If I wanted to make a guide, where should I write it?
pls respond
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>>172805052
>Guts then chop is not only the fastest overall animation but it also heals the most for Warden
the fuck
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>>172839475
>longer executions heals more
prove it or gtfo
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My new 1060 gives me a free For honor or Ghost recon wildlands, which should i pick?
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>>172840164
Wildlands is shit, For Honor is "okay"
If you come in /fhg/ and expect anything else than for honor as an aswer, then you're pretty silly
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>>172840164
Why the fuck didn't I get anything with my 1060?
Or did I but just didn't realize it
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>>172840406
When did you buy it? the campaign is pretty new
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>>172840449

I actually could still get Wildlands for free just now.
I mean, I will literally never play it but I won't turn down free vidya games.
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>>172841124
Can't you sell the game code?
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>>172838896
>Also, dominion is really shit, it's just a 3v1 all the time

are you new to the game or something?
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>>172841473

I'm not sure but I also get an awesome skull symbol in For Honor when I activate that game on my uplay. Skulls > Money.
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>>172841710
yeah
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how 2 fix warden
remove GB cancle from charge
allow him to be guardbroken during the charge up for an untechable GB
increased stamina drain
change light+charge combo into heavy+charge
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>>172810031
t. shitter that has never even touched raider
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>Can remap keyboard buttons
>But not controllers

Also fuck Orochi's and Peacekeepers for ruining the Assassin's Creed emblem.
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>>172842492
grats he's now orochi tier and has the only vulnerable bash
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>>172813518
>his dodge attack is a free GB on block while being painfully slow

I did not know this. I also didn't know about warden's zone attack giving you a free gb for a while. Is there anything else like this worth knowing about?
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>>172842926
>wahh wahh i cant bash&slash
nigga he was other combos
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What kind of drugs should I take to improve my reaction times?

I can't block lights, full stop.
There are people who can parry my lights, even when they are random and unpredictable.

How do I become like them?
The rage is killing me, like I literally need therapy. I've broken 2 mouses playing this fucking game.
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>Dash back away from Warlord
>Headbutt tracks me all the way

I fucking hate Warcuck and their players
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>>172843489
Whining in a dead thread will totally help you improve
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>>172843363
his side lights are insanely easy to parry without a bash first and his only other "combo" without a shoulder bash is trying to bait them into a counterstrike, which they won't fall for at all if they're any good
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>>172843456

About the only thing that actually works to increase human reaction times is being fluently multi-lingual.
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Revenge is getting nerfed but I doubt there will be better gear paths than just going Revenge

All the other stats are garbage
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>>172842564
I hope my 15 minutes in mspaint helps you and others in the future
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>>172844428
I uninstalled
am failure
I'm going back to easy games. This shit is bad for my health.
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>>172826595
He IS the hand of God in Dom, though.
t. Rep 3 lvl 15 Lawman
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>>172843456
You don't improve reaction times. You learn to read your opponent and predict their moves.

Also I'm sure there are people who use some screen-reading shit to cheat with parrying. I've seen some inhuman skill a few times too.

>>172843489
Head butt is getting nerfed. I'll cost more stamina for the WL and be slower.
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>>172843456

I'm slow and depressed and still parry lights 50% of the time, you can do it too.
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>>172844385
>M-MUH CHARGE
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WHY CANT I DODGE NOBUSHIS KICK WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH ME I CAN DODGE EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS STUPID GAME
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>>172842492
>nerfing warden
good one
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>>172845103
same
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>>172844806

If you quit things just because you're bad at them and that makes you feel bad, you'll never git gud at anything anon.

Never let your emotions dictate your choices. They're just along for the ride.
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QUICK!

IT'S A 1V1 DUEL AND YOU'RE ON ROUND 5. WHAT MUSIC PLAYS?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTtV0QYvuyI
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>>172845032
honestly i barely use it myself because it DOES become TOO easy to rely on, but it does make me realise that when someone doesn't fall for the feints there's fuckall you can really do without something like it
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I hope they'll do something about the geared modes being the preferred ones. It's segregating the playerbase.
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Kensei needs help bros, he can't fight much longer like this without commiting sudoku

He needs buffs
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>>172818819
>level 1 conq
>3-0'd rep 4 warden with just bash spams

christ
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>Game is so imbalanced that external organisations have to ban the use of broken character in tournaments
>Dying player base attempts to coerce an update through threatening to arrange a "blackout"
>Devs have openly said you're not meant to play more than 2 classes to justify the p2w gear unlocks
>Tournaments are won through glitch abuse (y'all remember telling me how broken first person games melee games were? Top kek.)

Apologise.
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>>172846903
>and youre on ground 5
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>>172846903
some default For Honor music plays
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>>172848476
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>>172838516
fucking bro tier
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>>172848476
Shill
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>>172848570
You'll need a bigger bin for this trash
>37%

>>172848593
Not an argument. Try and address my points, make my day.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/430135984/mordhau
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>>172848476
>Wrong
>Cancelled
>Wrong
>Wrong

Preordering Mordhau anyway but whatever.
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Any tips for a conqueror? I like their look so much but I'm somehow just absolutely terrible as them. I'm aware they're not a bad class and I'm trying to figure out what I can do to improve.
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>>172848898
Hold Heavy to swing your ball around indefinitely. When it starts to glow you can swing it for a ton of damage.
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>>172848898
>>172822964
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>>172848957
>When it starts to glow you can swing it to give your opponent a free parry.
Fixed.
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>>172848898
block till you get revenge, pop it, spam target to death
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Where I can find the proposed balance changes?
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>>172831709
Fighting games are like this all the damn time, doesn't even matter which one, I think because it's 1v1 and you 'step into' your character more than most other games. Because of things like combos or chains, moves that are safe and/or "easy" get considered cheese, even when they're deliberately part of the character and meant to be used. Actual pro players in games like Street Fighter or Starcraft acknowledge that cheese is part of the game and if you can't beat a cheese move and you "refuse" to play against it, then you're not top tier player. Fighting games fill inboxes with hatemail like nothing else, but generally any game with a 1v1 mode will do that.
>>172831948
Holy shit, were you a Peackeeper and did you fight a team of LB, Warlord, Raider, Nobushi on CItadel Gate where you rushed to A and stayed there? Because that describes that exact game. The PK had max revenge gear and the spam was real, so we just let her keep it and held the other two points, although it was only after 2-3 attempts
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>>172848807
>unrelated game
>unrelated game's link
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>>172849209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvHy_IhC6yY

At about 25 mins onwards they start to talk about bug fixes, gear stat adjustments and character balance adjustments.
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>>172849410
Thanks
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>>172848858
>ESL banned PK
>An attempt was made, as I said
>pic related
>https://www.reddit.com/r/forhonor/comments/61uyto/why_is_lucas_raider_who_won_1v1_tournament/

umm try again sweetie :)

>>172849315
What did he mean by this
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>>172821435
It's always law and Conq players that do this. With the buff we'll see even more if it.
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>>172848476
>Pk is being nerfed like community has been asking, ban will probably be lifted (was for console only as well)
>Reddit tier shit, didn't even do it, crying about not being able to get all cosmetics immediately
>Only things Devs have said, is they expected people to only play 1-3 characters, thus getting all cosmetics would have been much harder to do. They have since made the steel economy better to combat this.
>Most of the time, glitch abusers aren't tolerated in tournaments (They are also fixing the glitches, as said from the previous live stream)
Even if game is dying, I really enjoy it. It'll gain a steady amount of users, like siege, and will probably be a better game for it
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>>172843456
Caffeine
Ephedrine
Yohimbine HCL
Taurine

I've had good effects from:
Synephrine
Sulbutiamine
Huperzine A

And obviously cocaine if you can get it and want to waste it playing vidya.
>>
>>172849883
It must suck to be in an abusive relationship, see you in Mordhau
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>>172846342
Losing decreases you blood test levels, which makes you less confident and more likely to lose again.
Prolonged losing is detrimental to your health, leading to chemical depression.
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>>172850097
stop shilling
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>>172849883
>gain a steady amount of users
Not if they keep charging 60+$ for it.
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>>172850194
Stop buying Ubisoft games
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>>172850459
This price will go down. Pretty much a guarantee
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WHY IS GUARD SWITCH SPEED DIFFERENT FOR EACH CHARACTER? WHY IS THIS NOT BEING CHANGED FUCK? YEAH LETS NOT NERF PKS LIGHTS EITHER, LETS JUST NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT
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>>172848476
>not on steam
Game is gonna be dead on arrival, enjoy.
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>>172850459

There is gonna be a starter edition soon
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>>172850576
Unless it sells.
Look at GTA.
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>>172850814
Another RETARD jumps into the thread without reading anything and instantly broadcasts how retarded he is without a 2nd though. Game will be released on steam
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So these buffs for law were a joke right? When are we getting actual useful buffs that open turtlers in 1v1? Where are the buffs that make law balanced to warden in terms of mechanics?

This shit that we're getting will not help one bit against turtlers so what the fuck is the point?
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How do you think the tier list will look after the next balance patch?
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>>172850961
With all these "game is ded" memes, it's not gonna sell as well as GTA. Besides there's kinguin, g2a and shit, when you can buy the game even cheaper
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>>172850794
There's a high chance your third guard switch input will get eaten if you move it in intervals under 1/8th of a second on nobushi, shugoki, law, and raider. It happens more often if you're moving your character as well adding more inputs.
Your 1st and 2nd guardswitch should be able to move at 1/16th of a second intervals though.
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>>172812993
Good luck getting that parry on bashers and especially a warden that feints. Hell just about anyone who feints at high levels.
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>>172851271
Theyre making a reactionary gameplay gradually removing all ""safe"" options
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>>172851458
>buying from gray-market resellers
I wouldn't pin our hopes on that.
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>>172852190

>moralfag
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>>172826584
PK mains deserve no mercy. You know as soon as they get revenge it will be an endless string of attacks without any skill just counting on the speed to brutalize you. They somehow rationalize this to themselves thinking it is hard to do, so I love to just bear hug or burger flip them over and over.
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>>172852070
Well shit from what I heard in the dev stream dodging warlord bash will allow it to be more easily punishable, but I haven't heard anything about warden bash being made less safe.

So what's the bottom line here? Are they letting warden be the only top tier with pk? Why stop at nerfing warlord and conq bash? Why is warden excluded?

Seriously I still would have preffered they buff all the lower tiers to top tier instead, but apparently they are doing the opposite and not going all the way.
>>
Does Beserker not get a top heavy off a guardbreak into a wall now?
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>>172852258
>he's ok with giving payment info to shady internet russians
>he's ok with possibly losing his account due to illegit keys
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>>172852476
>now
nothing has changed
he still gets it after a wall throw and a light parry
tho you have to be on topg guard during the parry and the throw
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>>172852458
Why would they nerf Warden when there isn't really anything broken about him? He's one of the few characters that gets around the defensive meta by having good approach options.
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>>172852663
Pretty sure he got a free top heavy off of ANY parry.
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>>172852312
Flipping Pattykeepers on their revenge overdoses keeps me young and virile.
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>>172852663
What the actual fuck, then. The last three duels, I've done it and it's been blocked.
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>>172852458
Warden bash got an entire THREE counter options. Bonq's cash is the safest cash in the game. Warlord's is the least avoidable. Btw if you whine about not being able to dodge warden shoulder agter a hit then you literally need to git gud and learn the fucking game
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>>172852596
i have bought all of EAs games trough there since origin does not want my paypal
bought dedvision and for honor trought ubisoft since i had a few deals there

>>172852727
no
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>>172852667
(You)
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>>172852458
>wardens bash is literally the least safe option
>warlords is the most punishable but hardest to avoid
>conq is unpunishable and hard to dodge
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>>172852596

They dont know shit my man
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>>172852865
Yes, we don't want to see the game go to shit because shitters misunderstand what it means to have viable offense. Warden's just fine, but half the roster is trash and needs serious help, or the mechanics need to be adjusted to nerf defensive play.
>>
the amount of mad I am experiencing with shug right now is gold, shug is the best hero

the backlflips people go through to ratinalize losing

>fight these 2
>they do nothing but ledge kills
>I start doing them
>I'm the one without honor

fucking kek

look at him standing in ledge area
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>>172852667
>>172852865
he is not wrong tho
warden is literally the only perfectly balanced character
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>>172852667
That's not the point. That whole getting around the defensive meta i.e bash spamming meant that anyone with one that lead into a guarantee and wasn't punishable on dodge was essentially top tier. Nobushi is an exception because you can genuinely punish it after dodging. Pk is a different story.


Like it or not, warden now has an advantage over near everyone since his bashes are not being made unsafe. My question is why they stopped at warlord and conq? Why was warden left out?
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>>172853027
>only perfectly balanced character
Thats not what balanced means
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>>172852865
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>>172852987
Shugo's well designed. The only problematic part is his sanic run.
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>>172853108

well I only start that shit when they are backpedalling all the time or start trying cheese, nice to have an outcheese option
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>>172853069
does not help that the rest of the cast is either brokenly op or trash
warden sits in the perfect spot
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>>172853204
Yeah the perfect spot of being better than all but one character in the cast after the patch
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>>172852972
>>172853027
>>172853080

Meanwhile warden breaks the defensive meta, one of the few tools the other classes can fall back to in a pinch, including the warden.

>fight average-tier warden
>he can turtle just fine, punishes offense just like everyone else can
>try to counter turtle this average-tier turtling warden
>he just breaks you lol

Yes, so balanced, wow.

Warden niggers need to decide whether they want to call him balanced (LOL) or whether they want to call everyone else shit-tier.
You can't have it both ways.
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>>172852916
There is nothing unsafe about wardens bash unless he overcharges it. The only way you can counter warden bash is by pre-emptively throwing out a poke and that's nothing but guess work and not skill.

You can't grab a warden if you dodge his short charge and you can't punish it with a light either because he recovers so fast, yet if he connects he gets a guarantee and not to mention his insane mix-up potential by being allowed to cancel it EVEN if he reaches overcharge.

>>172852784
I want punishable, not fucking counter because I know for a fact counter to you means "lol just roll away".

It MUST be punishable. I should be allowed to punish it if I dodge it, there's no two way about it.
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>>172853039
It's not bash spamming, it's a move that forces your opponent to make a move, otherwise they get hit. This doesn't exist ingame currently in a fair form.

You're not wrong, Warlord has an insanely fast headbutt, which is being made less oppressive. Conq is getting a slight nerf, most likely to counter the fact his Shield Bash is almost impossible to stop.

Warden's shoulder is slow as hell and can be light attacked on reaction by any character(which doesn't apply to Warlord/Conq), yet also canceled for defense, but the point is that it forces an action from the opponent. That's it.

>>172853069
That is balanced, yes. Not amongst the rest of the roster, but for the game and how it currently plays. There was a period of time when Warden's zone wasn't punishable on block, that was probably when he was "unbalanced", and look, that got changed.

>>172853108
If he didn't have that, his usability would go down hard, sprinting charge vs gb is a great mixup
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>>172853301
>but one
>>172853435
you clearly know nothing
you must play at lest 500 duel games before you post here again

>>172853475
>literally the slowest charge that can be interrupted by any char
>warden guesses wrong and gets punished
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>>172853509
>but the point is that it forces an action from the opponent. That's it.
Is that really the only criteria for balance? It forces a reaction? Lets ignore the fact its super duper safe if the warden wants it to be, it "forces a reaction"

>top light
>warden parries

but its still balanced because it forced a reaction
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how to spot a shitter:
he will say that warden is op

you can not disprove it
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>>172853435
>>172853435
>warden breaks the defensive meta
this is why everyone wants the rest of the cast brought up to his level

>Warden niggers need to decide whether they want to call him balanced (LOL) or whether they want to call everyone else shit-tier
everyone has been saying this since before launch, retard

>>172853475
no, you can press a 36f light on reaction to the shoulder startup and it will interrupt him, unless he pre-emptively cancels, expecting you to press a light

you can sidedash attack a warden on a whiffed shoulder charge every time, other characters can't, but they can just light attack him out of the startup anyways

>It MUST be punishable. I should be allowed to punish it if I dodge it, there's no two way about it.
this is why the game is defensive as fuck and boring as hell, not every offense need to give you a free punish if you guess right, light attack beats 2/3 of the warden's options anyways
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>I accidentally ended up inside a Shugoki
I may have won, but I feel like a loser.
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>>172853509
It's broken in duels because of map design. It's also a cheesy way to initiate a duel for a free heavy (not as bad on more open maps).
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>>172852596
Just use paypal ya doofus
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>>172853475
>punishable
>he makes this move - he loses hp
>same as not having a move at all
How about go fuck yourself? Sounds fair to me.
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>>172851554
>It happens more often if you're moving your character as well adding more inputs.

Is this true? should i stop moving if trying to parry lights?
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>>172853548
Bullshit slowest charge, the shit is as fast as a conq shield bash. And what the fuck do you mean "guesses wrong"? He can literally go through with the short charge and not get punished by half the fucking roster. The only heores that can punish him are other heroes that have a bash into guarantee.

Let me ask you something. How come law who has the same speed charge that guarantees into nothing, not be allowed to cancel it in the fucking least into a grab yet warden is given the most powerful bash in the game? Especially now that he is left untouched while conq and warlord get a nerf to their bash?

How is this fair at all?
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>>172852987
Good job on counter that gb with a light and absorbing his light to get a gb. good stuff for a new shugo to do. although you prob could've just thrown him off with that first gb
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>>172853906
You're fucked either way my dude. On console it's impossible to keep up with valk and pk lights. Also you can't play aggressive without constantly switching guards so that makes this bug even more broken.
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>>172853548
>warden guesses wrong
Boohoo, the guy who gets free rock-paper-scissors whenever he wants can actually LOSE said rock-paper-scissors.
Of course he'll only 'lose' if he's a fucking retard and just keeps picking the same punishable option over & over, but hey yeah that poor man we should make it 100% safe instead of just 75%.
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Does anyone here have experience with setting up a local tournament? I'm considering trying to make one with a $10 dollar entry. Winner gets Pot.

What should I expect?
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>>172831948
If you're a heavy (or vanguard) then you're doing your job staying on point. If you're playing hybrid or assassin then you should probably try to help gank if it helps capture another point.
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>>172853961

I could but I wanted to humiliate him instead
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>>172853867
Get shit on, faggot. Him being allowed all this shit and the rest of the roster being excluded from the same amount of mechanical versatility makes him OP as fuck.

And again, he's unpunishable by half the roster.
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>>172853662
Yes? Every effective offense in this game is either too fast to react to(Warlord headbutt/PK zone), or forces your opponent to make a punishable move(Warden shoulder/Valk mixup)

The former isn't really fun design, which is why it's being changed.

>>top light
>>warden parries
Wow, the warden made a 1/3 guess and preemptively canceled his shoulder to try for a parry on a light attack, good for him.

>>172853848
Duels have awful maps overall, can't disagree with you

>>172853957
It's really not, it will lose to Conq/Warlord pushes every time.

>He can literally go through with the short charge and not get punished by half the fucking roster.
Every character can press a light attack on reaction to the shoulder and instantly beat 2/3 of the warden's options.

>but what if he parries
This is why the move is actually good, it forces a mixup.
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>>172853801
>you can light-attack on reaction
I'd like to see proof of this with in 100s of ms.
What kind of reaction time would you need to actually start a light before the warden can cancel into gb?
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>laggy valk on console
>light light sweep overhead heavy light light sweep

such skill, much fun
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>>172854149
it's 66% unsafe given that a light attack/sidedash attack will beat 2/3 of the options every time, what's your point?

>>172854295
No one's arguing the rest of the roster is somehow equal to Warden, dude. Ubi's balancing has been awful so far.

>>172854348
I will record this shortly, sure
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>>172854295
>unpunishable
Here we go again, baby wants a bad boo-boo gone. use your brain, you turbo autist
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>>172854458
I swear to god if you upload yourself as Warden it invalidates your whole argument. Your posts have the telltale marks of a Warden main
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>>172853790
Objective fact.
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>>172854612
>this person seems to know what they're talking about, they must have hundreds of hours of experience with the exact character we're discussing
>they're immediately incorrect!
lol
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>>172854612
Dude, are you retarded?

Actual numbers are worth having, and he's actually offered to get some.
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>>172854704
more like

>this person is doing mental gymnastics to justify how their broken character is actually super fair and other people need to git gud

the way I know this is because they suggest methods to actually "balance other heroes to Wardens level" because there is no such thing. Its a fucking empty statement that serves as the mating call of Warden mains so they can all gladhand eachother without actually offering any input
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>>172854302
>It's really not, it will lose to Conq/Warlord pushes every time.

And now that those two are getting nerfed, warden overtakes them both. Again, why is warden excluded in the nerfs?

>Every character can press a light attack on reaction to the shoulder and instantly beat 2/3 of the warden's options.

You must live in make believe land where the warden doesn't catch on that the enemy is going to try to poke him out of his charges. And the point still stands, the fact that he can mix-up his bash more so than anyone in the roster (especially with warlord and conq getting nerfed) will put him into the s-tier.

There is absolutely no reason to give him os much mix-up potential and lap it up to guessing a poke. I've yet to see any player that can consistently poke out a high level warden on reaction and not just throw it out pre-emptively, leaving it as guesswork.
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>>172854934
a tip for you
play the character for ~20 games and you will ses for yourself
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>>172855114
>warden got better reflexes
>warden outsmarts you
Why do you deserve to win against him, say again?
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>there are people who still haven't made the jump to top tier
>not only that but they get mad when they lose to top tier too
lawl
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>>172855114
>the fact that he can mix-up his bash more so than anyone in the roster (especially with warlord and conq getting nerfed) will put him into the s-tier.
I want to point out that Warden's bash currently has more mixup, safety, and reliability than Kensei's overhead finisher.

The key difference is that Kensei's overhead is his ONLY gimmick, whereas Warden has other tools at his disposal.

When people talk about buffing other characters to Warden, why does no one talk about how other character's mixups are pisspoor in comparison?
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>>172855215
i commend you for you work trying to argue with these shitters, i personally stopped long time ago
you can't change a retards mind who fails to realize even the simpliest of concepts
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>>172855282
Kensei is a feint machine
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>>172855114
>You must live in make believe land where the warden doesn't catch on that the enemy is going to try to poke him out of his charges.
>Constantly guessing wrong in a 33/33/33 mixup
In fighting games we tend to call them "reads"
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>>172855438
literally like any other char
and most of them have more than one attack
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>>172855547
Kensei is a second best tho
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>>172855438
Yeah I totally believe Kensei is going to throw a naked heavy at any point in his combo

Let alone the fact that every single Heavy kensei can do is 100% readbale and will exhaust him if you parry.
t. rep6 Kensei
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>>172855643
he is not better than anything
feints are universal
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>>172840164
>>172841473
>I just found out the code is locked to the particular graphics card in order to prevent selling the keys.

Fucking shit game why couldnt it be Legacy of the void or something i actually wanted, bloody piss
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>>172855661
>only rep 6
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>tfe keep throwing peeps to wall for demons embrace but dont realize they have no stam and I lose half hp instead

holy fuck I need to learn to heavy
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>>172855748
>more feint options is nothing special
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>>172840164
Wildlands is absolute garbage, Far Cry 3 for the 10th time but this time it's 3rd person and there's even more emptyness for you to drive in between actual important landmarks
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>>172854458
Shoulder Bash lands on the 66th frame of this webm

Dodge starts up on frame 2 of this webm, meaning if you read an empty dodge as a shoulder, you have over 60 frames/1000ms to react + have your attack land, which is quite easy even for slow light characters like Conq or Shugoki

Shoulder bash(fire arms) begins on frame 21, which means you have 45 frames/750ms to react + have your attack land, which is only really possible for characters with a 500ms light. However, Conq can just sidedash bash and beat every shoulder setup, and Shugoki will want to wait and hyperarmor the shoulder for a free light hit + headbutt

>>172855114
>And now that those two are getting nerfed, warden overtakes them both.
Warlord/Conq pushes are broken, and Warden's shoulder isn't as good as either, that's the point and why it's not getting nerfed.

>>172855215
this
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>>172855519
Again, guessing it wrong was the problem, it was how ridiculously difficult it is to punish a warden after guess right. Your only rebuttal is to guess it and throw a poke before hand. Even implying that anyone can consistently throw a poke on reaction when they see the charge is completely absurd and uneen in high level tournies.
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>>172855972
>Warden main defending Warden
I was so surprised, you really outplayed me on that one

Enjoy that cognitive dissonance
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>Holding GB makes your character perform a small warlord-esqe bunt that deals a little bit of free damage
would this fix the defensive metagame and help bring the low tier characters up to everyone elses level?
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>>172855215
You're a fucking moron and probably a warden main. The issue was never about having reflexes. Show me a high level tourney top 5 where people throw a light consistenly and on reaction against a warden and it counters them every time.

The shit is not possible with wardens mix-up superiority.
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>>172856134
GIVE KENSEI A HEAVY CANCEL INTO POMMEL HILT

PLEASE FOR THE LOVE GOD IT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE HIS FEINT GAME SOMETHING WORTH TALKING ABOUT
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>>172856026
>>172856206
>Even implying that anyone can consistently throw a poke on reaction when they see the charge is completely absurd and uneen in high level tournies.
see >>172855972

they don't poke warden out of their shoulder because neutral feinted shoulder is a good way to bait out a light for a parry, Warden gets shit on in tournies anyways because Warlord/PK/Conq are so much better

>>172856108
how is displaying facts "defending"?
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>>172856206
>every time
2/3 is not every time, bud
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>>172855972
>Warden's shoulder isn't as good as either, that's the point and why it's not getting nerfed.

You're full of shit and a warden main, I can tell.
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>>172855972
While WL and Conq might have their bashes be slightly harder to avoid, Warden has BY FAR the most options both before and after his. If you want to put all that into offensive pressure on the other two classes, you'll either end up with shitty damage or you're required to position the enemy's back against the wall.
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>>172856134
there are a ton of little number changes they could do to massively fix defensive play

attacking costs much less stam
blocking stops stam regen for a while
parrying costs stam from the defender
feinted attacks cost 0 stam
heavies do significant chip damage(40-50%)
heavy parries just give frame advantage
light parries give a light hit
chained lights do not bounce off of blocks
chained heavies are unparriable
side dodges only work on top attacks
back dodges only work on side attacks
forward dashes are invulnerable to GB/can still counter GB

>>172856338
nice argument
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>>172856336
Thanks for proving my point. Warden being able to prevent pokes due to the sheer fact he can cancel his charge essentially makes your "poke him out of his charge" arguement complete bullshit.

Again why was warden excluded from bash nerfs? Makes absolutely no sense
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>>172856265
>Warden gets shit on in tournies anyways because Warlord/PK/Conq are so much better

And where will this excuse go once WL and Conq are reigned in? You and I both know Kensei and Zerker are not getting buffed to Wardens level, because its not possible. Will you fucking lament the absurd balancing in this game? No you're going to say
>b-b-ut PK
and then pretend like your outplaying the rest of the roster when no one has the tools that you do. And then when PK gets nerfed what are you going to say then? Warden is the best character in the game but he's """balanced"""? Those a contradicting statements, and when Warden gets nerfed youre going to fucking pee your pants and cry here or leave the game because being a Warden is literally all you have in this game. THey already nerfed PK's dodge attack even though its really easy to deal with. What happens when vortex gets nerfed for exactly the same reason? Doesn't matter what a Warden main thinks, what matters (apparently) is where the majority of his damage comes from. Take a wild guess where the majority of all Warden damage comes from.
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>>172856108
>>172856338
>dude posts a big paragraph argument including maths, WEBM proof and everything
>PFFT FUCKING WARDEN MAINS AM I RIGHT?
you guys are the worst
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>>172855972
I appreciate you getting numbers.

My argument was that the 750ms was too little for anything but 500ms characters to react to, which you seem to agree with.
And even people playing those characters need a reaction time of <250ms to do so, which is hard to achieve for MOST PEOPLE even when you're expecting it.
http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/statistics

If you think that makes his shoulder 'punishable', you're technically correct.
But in practice I strongly disagree.
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>>172856206
>Show me a high level tourney top 5 where people throw a light consistenly and on reaction against a warden
Warden doesn't get into top 5 in high level tourneys
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>>172855924
>one option
>top light
>more
??
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>>172856582
>warden tries to parry your light
>parry his attempt instead
Youre not proving anything
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>>172856468
>If you want to put all that into offensive pressure on the other two classes, you'll either end up with shitty damage or you're required to position the enemy's back against the wall.
What do you mean by this? Cornering someone in this game doesn't actually let you hit them, they can just backdash and iframe your attacks anyways.

>>172856582
>>172856590
i'm starting to think this is a good-natured person trying to stir up discussion and keep the general alive until the balance patch

godspeed

>>172856747
i don't disagree with you, but keep in mind, half the power of the mixup is that while a light attack will stuff it quite easily, the warden can empty dodge/feint shoulder purely to bait one out for a parry

this level of effectiveness makes warden actually pretty decent against defensive play, as even a fast reaction can be punished if the warden deliberately exploits the opponent's behaviour
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So are these guys coming mid April or May?
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>>172856953
Warden cancels his parry.

Your move. Trying to grab him out of his heavy parry feint doesn't work either if he walks backwards doing it. It also doesn't work half the time either way and just plain glances off despite the grab occurring at the start of his heavy.
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>>172857076
>good-natured person trying to stir up discussion
I mean thats sort of true. I'm tired of Wardens saying "just buff the other classes" without anythign else to their post. What does that fucking mean. I mean, I have my own ideas of how I would do it and I bother to post them, but Warden mains literally dont give a shit about the specifics of the game, they just want to sit on Warden, tip their hat and say
>well thats just how the cookie crumbles pardner

I hate this shit, its so obviously conceited it makes me wanna piss blood
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>>172810834
Bump.
Anyone know/have internet friends willing to test it in duel?
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>>172857076
>I'm starting to think this is a good-natured person trying to stir up discussion and keep the general alive until the balance patch

Not the same person. There are several different people posting against warden white knights.
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>>172857246
never hopefully
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>playing dominion
>Enemy team has 3 fatman
>they're all rep 0 and obviously new, but they stick together making them dangerous
>fatman herd migrate to zone C to graze on minions
>I follow them, but got a little too close to one
> they get mad and take turns running at me
>drop out of lock and roll around narrowly avoid their charge
> emote every time they miss
>they run at me and miss again
I'm a motherfuckig matador
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>>172856747
KDA 2292 1404 874
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>he isn't maining PK, Conq, Warlord, Warden or Shugoki
why would you do that to yourself?
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>>172857430
I'm sorry, do you mean grabbed you as you were trying to back dodge into full guard? Because if you dodge, the guardbreak has tracking and gets you before you can go into full guard. Basically, the risk/reward for full guard as a Valk is that if the opponent predicts it, they can guard break and hit you for free. Berserkers get me with it a lot.
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>>172857713
>atman herd migrate to zone C to graze on minions

mein sides
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>>172857778
No I mean they grabbed me out of the forward running-charge AFTER back-dashing to full-guard.
So I was mid-charge when I got GB.
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>>172857076
>What do you mean by this?

I meant that both conq and warlord can only follow up the bash with a single light. Warlord can sort of spam it, but it's crappy damage. Conq can make a loop with out of it, but only if the opponent is against the wall since the wall splat guarantees you hitting them with a heavy and linking the heavy to another shield bash. Also neither can mix it up by canceling the motion to a GB.
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>every single argument about warden being op boils dow not
>he is a better player than me bahhh
you can stop now
stop embarasing yourselves
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>>172857403
>I'm tired of Wardens saying "just buff the other classes" without anythign else to their post. What does that fucking mean.
I wrote >>172856539, it would buff a ton of characters into being viable due to normals suddenly being good and not getting punished to hell for getting parried.

>>172857952
I do agree, but the issue is in neutral, where the defensive meta is currently wedged in. Warlord headbutt is the single best neutral move in the game, and Conq bash is hard to beat since it's faster than Warden shoulder and transitions from dodge > bash much faster.

As for the Warden shoulder being repeatable, there are almost no mechanics in this game that reward offense as is, a repeatable on-hit mixup is a great step forward that should be mirrored in other characters.
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>>172858234

oro just had to top light or zonw after the first charge
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>come back after a 2-0 to tie 2-2
>All he does is parry, GB, top heavy
>round 5 have him near gone health
>revenge as i hit him, fall to floor
>he kills me while on floor
>good fight!
Why is revenge still in duel?
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>>172858690
i don't think an out of stamina light would land in time
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>>172858234
I'm guessing the devs intended guard break to be the thing to get others out of defense as its name implies. Too bad its tech window is so ridiculously easy that it doesn't really count.
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I don't really give a shit about the OP classes anymore. I can just roll my eyes and get on with my life.

What I want removed from the game is fucking Orochi. They're not hard to fight. They're not fun to fight. They're just annoying.
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>>172858841
>GB is better for countering dodges than guards.

welp
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>>172858805

you are right, he shouldnt be out of stamina and he got punished
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>>172858841
>>172859076
i think the game is SUPPOSED to be a rock/paper/scissors with dodging beating attack, GB beating dodge, and attack beating GB, but since nothing counters parrying aside from pushes, it doesn't really work
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>>172857305
Hit him while he cancels. Sorry it took too long, gat to go away from pc
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>>172855876

fuck sake, its keeb habbening
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>>172858234
>>172858841
Oh, and to add to that, what's the point of having slightly better neutral moves when you can't capitalize on them though? It would be nice if others had the same options too, but that's probably an adjustment that would be way too major for anything short of a larger expansion or a sequel.
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>>172859076

It's largely because there are no tick throws.
If you throw out a light and it gets blocked and you get staggered, you can't follow up with a GB. So right there, one of the most important elements of the throw game is rendered impossible for most characters most of the time.
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why are 90% of duel opponents lagging niggers
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>>172859194
I think it's more that that's the situation we've been put into since they reverted the counter-GB timing to how it was in the beta. As much as I liked the revert in the moment, in hindsight I wish it had stayed how it was on launch instead.
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>>172859812

I rarely have issues.
It's most likely you that is the laggy piece of shit.
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>>172859812
Move out from SAfrica
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Dear god please kill me now
I just lost 6 fucking ranks
SIX
the first few because of disconnects
And the last because of teammates who just do not communicate and cannot shoot
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>>172859860
yeah, I guess me having constant green NAT literally every match I've played means I'm laggy
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>>172859994

NAT ain't everything.
If you're getting consistent lag, the lag is yours.
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>>172851271
Lawbringer is a reactionary character. He's the parry king, after all. He was never meant to fully crack open a defense on his own. The opponent has to string their own rope against him.
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Can we have lewds back now?
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4v4 gearless WHEN
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>>172860405
This still means he needs a good baiting move. Feints are pretty weak right now, especially on slower attacks like Lawbringer heavies.
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>>172860531
Just go to Paheal already. Or kill yourself. Why do you need that from here of all places?
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>>172860614
>4v4 gearless
I didn't realize how much I wanted this.
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>>172860614
>playing in house elimination with no gearstats and no powerups
those were the days, now I don't think I could muster 4 people to play the game at once let alone 8
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>>172860354
I'm not the one lagging you dumb cunt and it isn't consistent
The opponent has red NAT and I dont
do you comprehend this
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>>172856821
Anti-Warden shitters BTFO.
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>>172860792
Well I'd like to make sure these threads didn't die before we even got the first batch of DLC characters.
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what's with the shilling of mordhau lately? Kindly fuck off this general please?
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>>172856206
Show me a high level tourney top 5 with a Warden.
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>>172861120
When you have no community of your own, your only choice is to shitpost in other threads.
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What the fuck. Do you not get anything for parrying a valk light?
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so apparently you cant wallsplat+heavy top a warden as law, they recover quick enough to block

lol good "balance"
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>>172861671
you can top heavy any character off of wallthrow as LB, you're just slow or didn't swap your guard to top during the GB
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>>172861671
you're guard needs to be at top before you throw them otherwise the stance changing frames makes it take too long

this the case against all the characters, wall splat time is universal
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>>172862108
yeah but warden can afford to stance change to topheavy you against a wall if he isn't already in top stance

raider, law, shug can't
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I've been running into a lot of Laws in Dominion this weekend and I have to say that it's concerning that none of them have known LBs most damaging guaranteed damage during revenge mode.

When those buffs hit there's going to be a brief period where things won't have appeared to change at all in 4v4, then people will start to catch on to the fact that push->side heavy->top heavy is guaranteed. Suddenly people will be getting killed for eating one single push by max gear LBs because side heavy and top heavy BOTH get damage buffs in the upcoming patch.
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>>172862697
not true
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>>172863037
You know revenge builds are getting dumpstered, right?
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>>172863209
could've sworn they've done it to me before
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>>172863257
They would have to severely nerf revenge gain in outnumbered fights for that to matter. Revenge gain on damage taken is one of my dump stats and I get revenge almost immediately in a 2v1 or 3v1 situation.
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>its another I kept my guard left but the warden threw out a zone anyway, and I reaction switched to top so I got hit and died anyway episode
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>>172857757
Add 10-25 ms due to lag etc. and your above 250 ms.
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>>172863796
ALL revenge-related stats are getting nerfed by ~50%.
Revenge gain from injury was providing excess revenge on blocks, so that's getting fixed.
Revenge gain from defense will now only grant revenge on blocks and parries.
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>>172863994
Warden zone is perfectly fine, stop complaining.
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>>172864308
Seems fine to me. We'll have to see when the patch comes out obviously, but it really doesn't sound like it will be difficult to get revenge.
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>>172862697
>>172863491
he can't, no
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>>172864308
You DO realize that some pieces of gear with Revenge stats will still be top tier?

I mean, look at Execution health regen. If you dont have less than full HP, or even 85-90% HP, that stat is completely worthless.
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is this the GOAT emblem?
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>>172857757
>>172864017
Just retested after playing a couple hours of FH.
All 5 were 220-224.
Dat CNS stimulation, keeps you warm at night.
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>>172866197
This is the first step in overall gear balancing. Revenge stats are simply too egregious to let fester any longer. There will be more balancing down the road.
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>>172858761
Same reason ledges are.
Devs are shitlords that like that kind of shit.
>>
they should hurry the fuck up and release the patch already
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>>172858761
>revenge as i hit him
Why did you hit him with full meter? You can see he has it ready.
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>>172866349

Not the absolute worst I've seen, but it kinda sucks anon.
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What the fuck is the point of chains if they're never safe?
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>>172867475
almost none aside from a heavy > light chain to use after a GB(warlord), or light > heavy on hit confirm for a fast feint
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Did they make a character that can't be beat by half the roster or make a half the roster unable to beat this character

Really gets my noggin joggin.
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>>172867475
so you can feint the second heavy into sick mixups

also valk wants to whiff her second light so she can go into sweep
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>>172867475
Mostly for feinting mindgames, like consistently feinting the second attack in a chain then letting it go through when you expect your opponent to predict your feint. Other than that some chains have special properties that make them worth the risk, like lawbringer's unblockable finisher mixup or berserker's top heavy finisher doing disgusting damage.
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>daily is elim vs AI
>people are so shit they die to AI
>ragequit and leave
>game crashes
Holy shit i just need like 2 games for 8 take downs stop being shit.
>>
>Repeatedly beating a Rep 9 Warden on my Rep 1 Kensei
>Expect him to be salty
>He's genuinely impressed by my ability
>Says he mainly plays Dominion
>Tell him to do more feints and mix ups and parry on reaction instead of preemptively
>He actually listens and we spend hours dueling

Sometimes you run into people who make the game fun. He had a bunch of high level characters but he wasn't great at fundamentals. As of today, I have officially made it to a 60% winrate in duels with Kensei. It actually feels pretty good.
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>>172868043
Just turn off matchmaking for AI dailies, you can hog more kills this way and get it done faster. Plus it avoids salt and connection instability.
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>>172867475
Whiff the first light. Boom, it's safe.
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>>172863037
And yet they will still be shit in duels.

Good job UBI


Long arm
-free side heavy

Impaling riposte
-guaranteed after a parry

Light riposte
-Applies a stun
-window for trigger is easier

Make way
-Guaranteed
-Super armor
-increased to 25 damage from 20

Swift justice HLH
-faster light changed to 500 mill from 700 mill
-Top light attack damage increase to 15 from 10
-Side light damage increased to 15 from 10

Book chapter verse chain LHL
-Heavies are slightly faster -100 miliseconds
-Top heavy damage increased to 35 from 20
-Side heavy damage increased to 30 from 20
-Top light finisher damage increased to 15 from 10
-Side light finisher damage increased to 15 from 8

Judge jury executioner LHH
-Heavies are slightly faster -100 miliseconds
-Unblockable heavy increased to 45 damage from 30
>>
>hey lets nerf pk
>yeah her light attack speed and damage is crazy
>no, we aren't changing that
>her easiest attack to parry is what we need to fix
>oh yeah, cool
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>>172868232
Dumb question, why do I find it so inconsistent to dodge a Long Arm after a Shove? I know it's not a true guaranteed link, but sometimes I'll smash that dodge button after a Shove and my character just stands there and eats the Long Arm.
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>>172868232

You law fags are so fucking annoying
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>>172867689
You seem upset.
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>>172868354
I think it's just a problem with the netcode. There's a lot of queued inputs that just get eaten sometimes for seemingly no reason. Like sometimes a gb after a parry will come out too late and you'll whiff it despite mashing the button.
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>>172868438

Not that guy but yeah Valkyrie fucking upsets me.
>hyeuhhyeuhyeuh I get half your life off of any light, plus free knockdown and reset
>parrying my lights does literally nothing
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>>172868685
If you didn't want me to take half your life why did you let me land a light?
Baka senpai.
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>>172868685
>>parrying my lights does literally nothing

Have you tried hitting them afterwards?
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>>172868685
>tfw parry a light
>tfw don't win instantly
pls nerf this bulshit
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>>172868685
>parrying my lights does nothing
except get me a free overhead heavy*
>>
>Kick the shit out of a valk
>She leaves after two rounds
>Search again
>Get her again
>She leaves before the game even begins

O-oh, okay then. Guess I'll kill this bot for my order.
>>
>7k steel
>buy the dread raven for my raider for the new helmet since it fits my bird theme
>or save steel and get the mythic for my orochi or kensei
>or get the swag moth hat from the elite outfit for my orochi
What do?
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>>172869559

Ded game after tomorrow's boycott.
Spend it now or never.
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>>172869246
>parry pk zone
>she dies
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>>172869679
>boycott
Virtually no one even knows about it
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How do conqs change the direction of their heavy mid swing? I've had this happen to me a couple of times and it looks weird as fuck.
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>>172869686
>Parry PK zone
>GB
>Tech'd

Stopped playing for the day
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>>172869679
Boycott?
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>>172869782
By moving the right thumbstick from one direction to the other.
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>>172869686
>parry pk zone
>nothing happens
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>>172869825
1 day with no leddit users
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>>172869686
Is the Warden forced into side guard after a shoulder bash or am I (and a lot of other people) just twitching the guard around on impact subconsciously?

It sometimes feels like certain moves on some characters force you into a certain guard, but I can't tell if this is the case.
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>>172869927
>one day without reddit
can finally enjoy some dominion I guess
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>>172869927
sounds like a vast improvement to the community
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>>172868425
>The LAW
>Annoying
Pick one, roach
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>>172869965
you've never forced to swap guard, but different moves have no animation switch time on guard change

for example, in between a GB and a throw, or right after a shoulder lands
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>>172869927
What are they upset about?
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>>172870068
It's not about the character, it's about the circlejerking about playing the character.

We get it. You play Law. Now shut the fuck up about it: you don't see me artistically bringing up that i'm a Berzerker main at every fucking chance.
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>>172870154
"the state of the game"
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>>172870237
to be fair though, it could use a little love.

A half-assed boycott wont help any though.
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>>172870210
>Zerk main
Everything makes sense now.
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>>172870315
>half-assed boycott

last I saw it had something like 6,000 upvotes.
active player base is about 6,000 players.

you do the math.
you can try playing, but you're going to be looking at 30 minute queue times probably.
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>>172870068
I have a rep 6 lawbringer and I think most of the lawfags here are pretty obnoxious. Warden mains are worse though.
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>>172870210
You should bring it up artistically, it could be fun.
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>>172870237
Referring to?
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>>172870210
I'm not that guy that responded but having fun talking about a common interest shouldn't be seen as a negative thing.

>artistically

You should though.
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>>172870479
I mean if you didn't cry about us all the time we wouldn't need to defend ourselves

There's at least 3 characters more OP that you should be worrying about
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>>172870479
>Warden mains are DEUS VULT fags and obnoxious, but Warden is at least easily countered by a good player
>Warlord mains know they are faggots and don't pretend otherwise
>Peacekeeper mains are delusional subhumans who think their broken character makes them better than anyone else
>Conqueror mains vary between nice, fun loving guys and delusional faggots who think their two methods of input make them good
>Nobushi mains are waifufags
>Valkyrie mains are delusional and think their Peacekeeper Lite is any different to regular PK
>Shugoki mains are always huge fucking trolls who only care about breaking backs and upsetting children
>Lawbringer mains vary between obnoxious attention whores with superiority complexes and meme kings
>Berzerker mains are okay
>Raider mains are okay
>Orochi mains don't exist
>Kensei mains are saints of the sword, warriors whose entire existences are dedicated to the art of killing. To encounter a Kensei main is to encounter a man who has never once considered anything other than the hardest possible path, believing all glory is earned in blood.
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>parry light
>gb
>zone attack
>he parries it
Why is raider so garbage?
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>>172870983
>Warden is at least easily countered by a good player
you mean, someone playing Warlord/PK, the character doesn't have any real weaknesses
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>>172871201
bait zone and free gb
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>>172871201
No, by anyone that isn't Shugoki. And even then, by Shugoki if the Shug is smart.
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>>172870704
Before Friday's devstream, Reddit was mad about everything. No balance patches, Ubisoft not talking enough about things they're doing, the economy, things like that. They were organizing a blackout tomorrow where no one plays the game for 24 hours to make a statement to Ubisoft.

Then the devstream on Friday happened, and now no one's sure what's going to happen.
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>>172871201
Bait zone, get free GB. If he starts a charge close to you, whack him with a light. If he misses his charge, you can get a light in, or sometimes a grab depending on what control scheme he is using. I'd rather face a warden than a PK, Warlord or Conqueror. Shit, I would rather face a Warden than a Valkyrie.
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>>172871327
>>172871409
>>172871526
>thread goes from "warden op" whining to reasonable "he has counters to his kit"
what changed
>>
Someone teach this lawbringer how to bring law to orochi's...
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i think we all can agree that the following classes are retard window licking tier gameplay
conq
pk
valk
orochi
warden

simple combos for simple people
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>>172871738
Theres only like a handful of people that artistically go off about Warden. One is a Shug main who bitches about getting GB'd.

Guess they're not here right now.
>>
are the servers down or having issues
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>>172870983
I thought valk was more a cross between PK-lite & Warden-lite
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>>172872021

no
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>>172871852
none of these classes need to know how to feint or parry or manage spacing or stamina
yes that includes warden you shitters
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>>172871201
>being dumb enough to pick a non-viable character
>good player
choose one
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>>172871769
You can't, really. The stance change delay means that all you can do is guess. There's no real options to parry because of how fast his zone and top lights come out, so all you can really do is bop him in the head and very rarely get a top light parry into AD MORTEM.

I went against a Rep 6 Lawbringer as my level 2 Orochi and he couldn't deal with me. I'd just zone, top light and parry and he could only sit there and occasionally throw out a light.
>>
Warden becomes a lot more manageable when you realize he can't Shoulder Bash from neutral.
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>>172871187
Because he can overhead-heavy/zone spam in 4v4, resulting in his team winning.
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>>172872232
>Not having at least a 65% winrate on Kensei and LB
>Being a fucking scrub who needs good, viable, fun characters to do well

Get a load of THIS dweeb!

>>172872086
She's side light spams, mostly. Not annoying in the turtle way Warlord is.
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>Fighting a Conq
>Kicking the shit out of him because he doesn't know how to actually play Conq
>Parrying everything he does because hes trying to heavy after dodge bashes
>He leaves before he even dies once
>Messages me
>"Don't waste my time"
>"Either I win or we don't fight"

This is a joke, right? Has to be.
>>
>>172872656
I will say that Conqueror mains are often really shitty and delusional. They bitch a lot when they lose or even get close to losing because they are so used to their defensive play rendering them literally invincible.
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>>172872261
Most characters can't even attack from neutral so what's your point. Not to mention only Warden and PK have the ability to do unblockable strings
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>>172872485
>Duel queue winrate
alright now win a tourney

get top 32 even
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>>172873065
I'll just enter a 32 man tourney you fucking NERD
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>>172873065
>>172873137
Fucking DESTROYED.
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>>172809976
>rape his angus
Please don't
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>>172873065
>tourney

you mean an exploit parade?
>>
>>172873137
>>172873230
kek, touche
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ARE
Y'ALL NIGGERS
FUCKING READY
FOR
OPERATION BLACKOUTâ„¢ ?

>>172870460

> 6,000 upvotes.
Make it double. 12k+ by now.
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>>172873267
>exploit
you mean tech, right?
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>>172873383
maybe, im only doing to send a message to the dev and not be a le ebbin plebbitor
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>>172873574
I literally had an orochi in a tourny tell me that flicker was tech and not a bug

I really got perturbed
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>>172873574
Yes, I must have misspoken
>>
>>172873574
techsploit
>>
I fucking hate Lawbros because their character forces them to be defensive, and defensive play is fucking cancer.

Sure your character is low tier, that doesn't mean I'm going to forgive you playing like a fag.
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>>172874296
They literally can't do anything else, though. Their heavies are so slow that you can get a guaranteed grab off them.
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>>172874296
>Hating on the superior bro character
Who could be behind this post?
>>
>>172874530
It's still not fun to play against. I understand they can do nothing else, but that doesn't make the one thing they can do any less of a pain in the ass.

You know what one thing they could do? Play a different character.
>>
>>172874296
hold on lemme just throw out this heavy real quick....aaaaaaand parried
>>
>>172874670
>superior bro character
9/10's Laws I play against are whiney assholes who just want "m-muh character" to fall back on as an excuse for being bad

Lawbringers are cunts, the Dan mains of For Honor
>>
>>172874530
When Priests were shit tier in Hearthstone, people still hated their guts because their gimmicks revolved around being a nigger and stealing enemy cards. Bad characters can still be cancer.
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>>172874949
t.orochi that got killed by lawbringer
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I hate playing Duel.

I have high winrate because I play fattie, but it's so intense and it gives me anxiety
>>
>>172875303
t. Lawbringer in Denial
>>
>>172875315

Doing it wrong.
You don't play Shugoki to win duels.
You play Shugoki to light->headbutt over and over and over until your opponent WANTS to lose, and you do it with a huge shit-eating grin on your face.
>>
>>172875303
t. dominion main
>>
>>172875506
>playing 1v1
def a orochi
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>>172875476
Its so fun
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>>172875583
>not playing dominion means not playing 4v4s
>not playing dominion means not playing brawls
>implying orochi being a good duel character

Oh I see, you're retarded.
>>
>>172875805
>Warlord.webm
>Fighting a Berserker
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>>172875918
>headbutt spam = warlord
that's the joke
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Jesus christ all this turbofags complaining about LB. If you have ANY trouble fighting this character you need to uninstall the game right now. [Spoilers]Tears are delicious tho, keep 'em coming [spoilers]
>>
>>172875845
>elimination fag
trash like the orochi
>>
Gas all Shugoki players.
>>
>>172876568
I think it's more that LB isn't fun to face. LB/LB mirror matches in particular are just awful.
>>
>no 4v4 arena gamemode where you just smash the shit outta each other for 5-10mins

skirmish sucks cause the score limit
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>>172876702

You have no idea how happy your impotent rage makes me.
>>
>>172877271
What the fuck character is fun to fight against in this game? Most characters boil down to managing which of two cheese attacks to passive block against and trying not to get fooled by flickering zone attack indicators.
>>
>>172877613
I like fighting Wardens, even if I lose to them a lot. Feels intense. LB is just two fat guys pretending to swing clubs every few minutes.
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>>172838516
Love to bro goki it up.

>pack of ass class scrubs swarming my teammate like rabid dogs.
>Oni rush in knock everyone on their ass
>heavy while they are down and a headbutt as they stand up
>block two attacks and I'm already at revenge
>pop it for knockdown, throw a charged side heavy
>it one hits three of them at once
>buddy finishes off the last one while I nap emote over their corpses
>>
>>172877834
>Warden
>passive block left to deny zone attack
>attempt to parry top light
>roll backwards every time they try to initiate vortex

Yeah I find this interesting too.
>>
>>172878308
>LB
>Wait
>Wait some more
>Grab a snack
>Wait
>Feint
>GRAB
>WALL SPLAT
>OVERHEAD
>wait

I say this as someone who mains LB in duels.
>>
Which one of you is Khornes_Chosen?

You're a bitch man
>>
>dueling a conq as the law
>first round both of us at fatal range
>he throws out light after missing a bash
>go for parry
>game blocks the attack and then launches the queued heavy putting me out of stamina
>he parries and unlock heavies for the kill

>round 2
>bash him off a ledge as soon as possible

>after 2 slow rounds of both of us waiting for the other to mess up and then punishing game is tied 2-2
>final round
>am getting shit on
>missing dodges and getting bashed into walls so he can heavy me
>1 and a half bar left
>begin bashing him toward a ledge
>at ledge he dodges what would be fatal bash and goes for GB
>counter
>he goes for a bash and misses
>he follows with heavy (probably queued)
>parry and throw his mostly full health ass off the map into a lake of fire

Feels Fucking Good Man
>>
>>172878795
Wheres the unsubscribe button on this site?
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>>172878545
I mean, yeah kinda. LB has no good ways to get in on people, they have to bait out attacks to get attempts at parrying. So like the same as everyone else, except with no super fast cheese attacks or indicator bugs.
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>>172879227
>Don't talk about the game in the game's general, post lewds instead!

kys yourself fampai
>>
OFFICIAL CANCER RANKING

CHERNOBYL TIER
>Peacekeeper
>Valkyrie
>Warlord
>Warden

TOXIC SPILL TIER
>Conqueror
>Orochi
>Lawbringer
>Shugouki
>Berserker

HAZARDOUS MATERIALS TIER
>Nobushi
>Raider
>Kensei
>>
You kids and your silly internet arguments.
>>
>>172812098
>>Rick and Morty just cucked samurai jack

what?
>>
Could you punish bashes with back-step heavies?

I feel like if you queued it as soon as you see a warden or conq start charging you would hit them. And if the warden cancels he wouldn't be able to punish because he's out of range (though maybe he can zone it)
>>
>>172879338
Valk belongs below warden.

>>172879387
>he doesn't mainline internet arguments yet
Enjoy your naivete while it lasts.
>>
>>172879338

Nobushi is definitely toxic

also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOZuxwVk7TU
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Im the only one who cant fucking play duels?
Jesus christ, its everytime either a total rookie i have no fun to steamroll and i just leave, or fucking "pro's" on their mains or smurf-characters which are glitching with gb-cancels soft-feint flickers and all that kind of shit, constantly turtle, backdash, and punish me for every attempt to attack with parrying my every single light even if im launch it after a dozen of feints.
I feel comfy in dominion, elims, skirmish, even without gear, feats or other bullshit, but playing duels so much fucking frustrating.
>>
>>172879430
Rick and Morty announced a new episode for april fools day, and they actually aired it instead of Samurai Jack, people are pissed they have to wait another week for an episode
>>
Is light parry into shuggie hug actually avoidable?
>>
>>172879252
>LB main thinks 500ms attacks are cheese
>LB main doesn't realize that every character can flicker
>LB main doesn't realize that every character can false GB
>LB main thinks that fighting someone who turtles is somehow more fun than fighting someone who plays the game

This is why there's a backlash against you faggots
>>
Too many serious posters. Post character and song
>Lawbringer
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OWKSy5j4lk
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>>172879467
>Valk belongs below warden.

lolno
warden at least has counterplay in theory
"just don't get hit by the lights bro!" doesn't qualify
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>>172879631
LBs wouldn't have to turtle if they actually had an attack that could land without being parried
>>
>>172879556
Not even just took SJs timeslot, but then played the same Rick and Morty episode twelve times in a row.

No one would be pissed if Samurai Jack aired half an hour later. Everyone is up in arms that it's airing one week later.
>>
>>172879631
Everybody can flicker, but not everyone's zone is fast enough to mix people up like Warden/PK/Orochi ect
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>>172879765
Just because it's the only thing you can do doesn't magically mean people are going to enjoy fighting it. People are going to get pissed fighting defensive cunts no matter what character they are.
>>
>>172879797

>twelve times in a row

What's the obsession with this show? Saw an episode or 2 at a friends and I don't get it.
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Le tier list of characters I have trouble with

Lots of trable
>PK
>Warden**

Sum trable
>Warlord
>Kensei
>Orochi
>Conqueror
>Valkyrie

No truble
>Lawbringer
>Shugoki
>Berserker
>Nobushi
>Raider


t. no-main fag


**Only with characters who lack a dash-attack. With a dash-attack, No Truble.
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>>172880014
First reason was kinda fun, but as much as I hate to say it, it's basically Reddit: The Show. Lots of "everyone is dumb but me!" edgy nihilism humour that can be interpreted as both ironic and unironic depending on the viewer. It's also full of ad-lib humour that comes across as between "lol so random" and just fucking obnoxious sometimes. Second season I found horrifically tedious and barely made it through.
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>>172879669

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2bpDMpvnhc
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>>172879669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy5gChg7w5I
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>>172879959
Nobody said you have to enjoy it, in fact this exchange started with the implication that no character is "fun" to fight against because their movesets are 2 dimensional barring indicator bug mixups.
>>
>>172873236
>rump roast

Hot.
>>
>>172880243
No matter what anyone says, FF9 is the comfiest of all FFs
>>
>>172878795
Saved the game, or at least most of is (I need to make shadowplay highlights longer)
I could have won 3-1 if I didn't fuck up 3 parry followups in the 4th round while the dude was in execution range
>parry light go for ad mortem
>super delayed for no reason
>parry a heavy
>queued a second heavy somehow
>go into impaling ripost
Winning without gravity would have been so much more satisfying.
>>
Wardens top light isnt any faster than other classes yet its unreactable for me
>>
>>172879695
It's a 50/50 instead of a 33/33/33, and it's based around lights/heavies instead of an unblockable (but interruptible) charge.
Try backdashing if you can't block, her lights are actually surprisingly short-ranged.
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>>172880740
Nobushi's kick is slower than every other characters bash but for some reason every time I see it I get the deer-in-headlights effect and eat a boot to the head.
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>>172880836
A 50/50 is better for the defender than a 33/33/33. Not for the attacker. That's the odds of a given move hitting you, not the odds of avoiding a given move.
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>>172880936
Fucking this.
Half the time I WALK INTO IT.
WHY?
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>>172880995
probably because she turns around during it and fucks you up

i eat it every time too
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>>172880936
>>172880995
you're memorized be her beauty and elegance of course
>>
just came back from a few day long break

still havent gotten my crates from the faction war

is this a fuckin joke?
>>
>>172881445

Supposedly the weekend community event was supposed to "make up" for the lost crates

Never mind the fact that community events are supposed to be 2000 steel now, and crates are only 500 steel

Never mind the fact that if you missed the event you're fucked
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>>172879669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0fc-3-PXSo
>>
anyone else think they'll release this fucking patch at the end of season 1?
>>
>>172881942
makes sense.
>>
>>172879669
Law
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW_hPUqBCgg
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>>172881706
>Supposedly the weekend community event was supposed to "make up" for the lost crates
Source on this? I thought we were just getting a community event per round regardless
>>
>>172880995
It gets me a lot too, I chalk it up to not having much experience fighting nobushis. Same thing with Valk sweep attack.
>>
>25 takedowns in cancerous 1v1
even if I win every single one that's still tedious. Time to disable chat.
>>
>>172882212

We had one last weekend for 2000 steel
Anyway, google...
>>
>>172882421

>1v1
>cancerous

lolwut
you're just bad at the game
NOTHING is more cancerous than team modes with pay2winsooner unlockables
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>>172881993
>3 months for a patch
>>
>>172882421
It takes 9 matches if you win most of them. It's about 3 or 4 minutes a match.

I don't want to tell you to get good, but get good. We need more orders for Brawl and Duel: it should be an equal split, not 90% 4v4 Orders.
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>>172882712

Remember to boycott tomorrow
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>>172879669
>Law
>https://youtu.be/XUhVCoTsBaM
>>
>>172879669
lawbringer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFdAYpAXgY
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>>172882904
For what purpose? Ubi already made it's money, it's a full-price game.
People quitting now will just save them money in maintenance costs.
>>
>>172882692
1v1 is nowhere near the main focus of this gamein case you haven't noticed anon
>>
>>172883207
nifty
>>
>>172883362

1v1 is the only playable mode in case you haven't noticed anon
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>>172882692
>1v1
>not cancerous
So fun to play against soft-feint/gb-cancel glitching backdashing turtles that parrying every single light attack.
Not cancer at all.
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>>172883478

and 4v4 is EXACTLY THE SAME SHIT plus gear stats/turborevenge cancer AND ganksquads

1v1 is objectively the least cancerous mode. There isn't even any potential argument against this.
>>
>>172883478
Just don't throw out easy to parry/predictable light attacks, anon.

the result of doing suck is here >>172829572
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>>172883640
2v2 is better.
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>>172883436
Oh god, really not. FH is not a fighting game.
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>Warlord has the best defence
>Unreactable attacks only distinguished by his inbred screaming
>Throw range the size of China
>Armor on his leap attack
>Dumbest move in the game aka headbutt
>Insane tracking and give him a free hit
>Knocks down in revenge basically putting you in an infinite
>Fast as fuck zone attack aswell

Who greenlit this character

Gas him and all Warlord players
>>
>>172883778

FH IS a fighting game.
Just not a good one.
>>
>>172869920
Kind of looks like you took too long to initiate the Guard Break.
>>
>>172883813
So mad
So bad
>>
>>172883813
>playing the open beta months ago
>go against a Warlord in duels
>"man this character seems really OP, let me try to discuss this"
>"WOW HE'S MID TIER AT BEST YOU'RE FUCKING TRASH"
>>
>>172883913
it was a bug for a while, i guess they hid it from everyone
assassin guard thing is broken
they admitted that they can't fall down by spinning it
and this was happening right after the pk buff patch
like every match vs pk would have this
its due to sin changing animations or some shit during guard change
haven't seen one escaping gb like that recently, tho
>>
>>172884153
not true
warlord was even more broken during CBT
(headbutt could be cancelled into gb, fullblock costing no stam and so e other shit)
he was nerfed before OBT
and people were learning him again
>>
I am shitter.

Someone help me out here. Sometimes a warden for instance keeps doing top light attacks. So I try to block it no luck. Ok I think hes gonna do it again no luck. Ok im still trying to block up no luck. Now my mouse is at the end of my mouse pad. I cant move it up anymore. Still get hit by up attack.

help
>>
>>172884457

Just outsmart them anon
>>
>play raider
>vs valk
>have to leave game or run away and gank someone

Such is life.
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I'm going to be stronger than mere mortals can possibly imagine once Kensei gets buffed

The time of YOOOOOOOO is coming
>>
>>172884724
It will NEVER happen
>>
Which is worse, Lawman or Raider?
>>
>>172884724
>implying that ubi understands what is wrong with the game
>implying ken will get anything other than numbers buffs that still make him unable to get in on someone
>>
>>172885208
Kensei
>>
>>172885243
Ok, what exactly is the problem of the game?
>>
>>172885208
Raider has to zone attack to get heavys off and only after a gb, it takes half his Stam and does 5 points more damage than his lights.
>>
>>172885337
Pretty sure Raider gets heavies off light parries. A raider blew my mind doing that against me, I thought the same thing as you before experiencing differently.
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>>172883813
just git gud
>>
>>172884457
use WAD for blocks + mouse.

In a 1v1 keys for fast reaction.
If you keep the circle game going you got mouse to block the direction you are going and keys to fast react
>>
>>172885714
>Pretty sure Raider gets heavies off light parries

nope
>>
Mouse/Keyboard or Controller, /fhg/?
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tfw another perfect round opening with a cherry on top this time
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>>172885839
What? He 100% gets a top heavy off a light parry you fucking goon.
>>
>>172885839
yes he does, if Raider parries a light he can immediately do a heavy and hit except maybe against conq and warlord
>>
>>172885839
Have you tested it? I was literally just holding the block direction down and it went through.
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Kensei DLC weapon
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>unlocking Winterwoods for Warden
a e s t h e t i c.
>>
Did the holy 'quaternity' of OP heroes change? I was away for about a month.
>>
>>172886340
Have you seen how big we are compared to normal soldiers? That is Kensei's weapon.
>>
>>172886460
That color was ruined for me when I noticed the black was actually dark blue.
>>
>>172886549
PK
Warlord
Conqueror
Warden
In that order
>>
>>172886549
No
Play valk pk warden warlord or don't play at all.
>>
>>172886997
No it isn't?..
>>
>>172885931
Mouse and keyboard is pretty much objectively better for everything but tactile feedback on current stance
>>
>>172887107
>>172887142
t. baddies
>>172886549
PK, Conq, warlord
>>
>>172883640
The other anon forgot the fucking LEDGES.
And nah, other modes have objectives, they have time pressures, and an incentive for execution.
Duel mode is a boring drag that encourages maximal turtling tryhard cancer & deliberately lends itself to fucking ledge cheese.
Everything else does less of this.

And personally, I prefer the revenge-cancer to the tryhard duelling cancer.
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I think LB and Conq players post here the same way they behave in the game. No other heroes emote spam as much as those two, and all the self pity "pay attention to me for playing a braindead or low tier hero" posts on here are the verbal equivalent of that.

We get it LB doesn't have great options right now, and you Conq players are mentally handicapped, you can shut the fuck up about it now.
>>
>>172887839
Because they have the best emotes to spam.

The only other hero that has a good one is raider, and maybe berserker.
>>
>>172884716
You disappoint Odin with your cowardice.
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>Guard is clearly to the right the moment I attack
>Still get a top heavy
>My free heavy out of a GB is wasted
>>
>>172885764
Reminder that a great deal of D/Cs are due to ERROR.
>>
>>172883640
No, dude, 4x4s isnt nearly the same, elims probably, but dominion and skirmish isnt.
Because of points, ganking, revenge, feats, renown people are forced to play more proactively, there is no time for excessive turtling and massive sustained glitch abuse.

>>172883717
>Just don't throw out easy to parry/predictable light attacks, anon
Yeah, "just dont attack first lmao".
You cant throw any light other than your fastest ones, because any other lights are even easier to parry.
>>
>>172887839
>Verbal equivalent
Its not that we want to sound like we need attention. The character is so fucked up that whenever we want to talk about it it has to sound like it's shit because it's shit, who would've known right?
>Emote spam
Just when needed
>>
>>172888276
no he rage quit, this was the second match. In the first match he played conq and got mad that I parried all his attacks and bullied him out of stamina
>>
>>172888059
Valk has at least one, but it doesn't have an audio cue.
>>
>Duel order
>Warden, Warden, Warden, Warden, Warden, PK
MISERBOOOO :DD
It's too late to save this game, right? It's like Ubi didn't even expect it to be well received and was not prepared to maintain it, just wanted sweet preorder sales
>>
>>172889005
It's not too late but they are so fucking slow with balancing that it will be long dead before they can fix the problems.
>>
Why are emotes so expensive

Effects and executions I can understand
>>
>>172889005
like lmao nigga why is warden even a problem, like nigga just have a 500ms attack and 200ms reactions, make a good guess, or roll away haha
>>
Im playing shugoki

does anyone find the exhaust throw fiddly

I tried it on a pker and he didnt fall over
>>
>>172889005
why do wardens infest duel mode so much?

they're like what orachie and pk are to execution
>>
>>172889005
>It's like Ubi didn't even expect it to be well received and was not prepared to maintain it, just wanted sweet preorder sales

Movies actually operate on the same basis. The investors only really give a shit about opening weekend performance, longevity isn't important.
>>
>>172889236
Exhaust throw randomly doesn't work on Assassins. There's also a bug where parrying someone who is exhausted doesn't guarantee a guard break. There's a few bugs around exhaustion.

>>172889238
Warden is a top-tier 1v1 duelist with a lot of options and the ability to massively combo people. In duels, I'd argue most attacks come from the top, so his crushing counter is also ridiculously useful once you learn the timing.
>>
>>172889368

ah I see

its shit as shugoki because if they do affall ovewr and you try embrace you lose hp, if they dont you miss
>>
>>172883227
It's more profitable to milk money by keeping the game alive. They haven't released any new content (season pass) yet.
>>
>>172889628
It's more profitable, but the way projects like this get financed is interesting. Basically, a studio will say something like:

>This will sell 1,000,000 copies

And their investors give them the money to make the game based on their confidence. The studio also allots money from this investment into other projects down the production line, and invests projected money from the project into other projects too.

If the project does as well as predicted, or better than, then the trust of the investors and shareholders goes up, and they area more likely to allot and grant money for future projects. The profit of the long term isn't really as important from a business point of view as the initial sales to investors. A game having longevity is a bonus to milk it more, but not necessary to keep a company afloat.
>>
>>172889005
In case if duel, you play Warlord, Valk, Warden or Conq. Nothing else.
The game's balance is fromsoft tier but at least the pvp combat is a bit more fun than souls.
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>>
>>172889849
Yeah, I hate the business model of big publishers, they're like a factory churning out multiple titles every year and letting them be forgotten. I much prefer a quality game with longevity in mind, but I suppose their model is much more safe and reliable. If a title flops, they have many more coming that will most likely compensate for the loss.
>>
>>172890239
He probably AFK farmed.
>>
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>>172890280
You may be right.
>>
>>172890419

what a cuck
>>
>>172890419
>>172890459
He just wanted to roleplay.
>>
>>172890419
GOTTA KEEP THAT KDR MAN
All the obscenesly high rep people I've seen have ALL been hot garbage in play. There was this warden who taped down his allchat button and lost the vast majority of his fights in an elimination. He left towards the end because he goe his ass rocked by everything. I was training nobushi for my first rep with her and I was better than him.
>>
>dominion
>boosting A
>enemy nobushi in our spawn, killing my teammates
>wonder why they can't kill her after a few deaths if they're spawning right there every time
>go there to try and end it
>she gets revenge in literally two hits
>spams zone attack so it kills soldiers around her, getting health back, and they keep spawning so she can do this indefinitely
>uses healing feat whenever she gets dangerously low

Most cancerous shit I've seen honestly
>>
New thread when you faggots?
>>
>>172893008
make one faggot
>>
>>172893038
I made this one faggot

Not gonna do it twice in a row.
>>
>>172893158
i made it twice in a row before

do it faggot
>>
>>172893193
UP YORS
>>
>>172893326
no u
>>
>>172893326
>>172893596
You are both children

migr8
>>172894042
>>172894042
>>172894042
>>172894042
>>172894042
>>
>>172882904
I thought that was the 4th?
>>
>>172888059
Spamming goki's tantrum emote and cancelling as soon as the club hits the ground so it waves around wildly is pretty fun
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