/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

Giantwarp Mage is the new meta deck and there's NOTHING you can do to stop it.

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>>172729301

*steals ice block*

>>172729225
>/our guy/
>>>/reddit/

>>172729225
>reddit's guy
FTFY

Are we supposed to have the HCT MSG packs by now?

A friend of mine said he got his but I still didn't get mine

>>172729336

*Counterspell (drawn with Arcaneologist)s your Ice Block*

Heh, nothing personnel....Anduin

>>172729225
Toast needs to fix his lisp. Good guy though.

>>172729336
>plays giants and pops ice block with fireball
>time warps for extra turn fuck your immunity

>>172729383
I got mine yesterday.

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Anyone else feels nice about the upcoming expansion?

Big minions, decently designed class cards, strong combos... I guess there are too many taunts, but that's the Blizzard's favourite sticking plaster against agro, so what the heck anyway.

I'm 100% sure there will appear atrocious meta like in every expansion, but I prefer the meta where I can reach 10 mana.

Anway, I'm gonna miss this superhero chin. Whether he was healthy gameplay-wise or not.

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How does Time Warp even work, do you actually take two turns or does your opponent skip a turn?

Because there's a huge difference between the two: card draw, end of turn effects, mana gain.

>>172729664
EU or NA?

>>172729758
EU.

>>172729752
you click >end turn< the button does a **silly animation** ! and its your turn again, you draw card and shit

>>172729817
Right, but I was asking if the opponent drew a card too.

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>>172729694
I screenshoted your comment, so 2 months deep into cancer meta to mock you, retarded cuck

>>172729752
works same way as DSHIFT

>>172729903
or time warp from magic you fucking weaboo

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The fuck is that? Why can't they print decent rogue weapons?

>>172729951
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>>172729951

blade flurry died for this

>that plant literal edwin carbon copy
LOVING EVERY LAUGH

>>172729865
He literally admitted the meta will probably end up being atrocious, he was just saying that at the very least he had a good feeling about it
Calm down you fucking autist

>>172729861
No. It is literally "You get two turns", it is never your opponent's turn during this period, it's your turn twice.

>>172729951
Maybe Ben forgot that Blade Flurry had been nerfed?

>>172729694
Wallet Warrior versus Wallet Warrior
Boy I am sure excited for the new meta
Can't wait to play 45 minutes of coinflipping

>>172729752
>Arcane Giant into Arcane Giant/Molten Reflection into Time Shift into Alex

Did they really remove Ice Lance to make Freeze Mage stronger with the quest?
You don't even need spells. Now it's a 4 cards combo compared to before when it was much harder to get all the combo pieces.

>>172730080
That answers my question, thank you. Might be cool, reasonably hyped for it until the inevitable Arcane Golem nerf.

Can't wait for Meteoring Wrathguard stories

>>172729951
That is a decent Rogue weapon. It's not crazy,broken, OP bullshit but it's decent. With Two Swashburglers that you played in the early game it's a freaking 2 mana 3/3 weapon. That's fucking crazy tempo.

What more do you want you fucking fag. It to be a 5/2 with windfury that costs 1 or some bullshit.

Fuck off complaining faggot.

>>172730104
I'd rather have that than a single coinflip at the start of the game, aka "can I stop the enemy from turn 2-3 lead?"

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>>172730142
>Wrathguard
I'm convinced Meteor exists for this minion. Curves into it nicely too.

>>172730028
>edwin vanleaf

>>172730142
More like the Jojo memes where the opponent is at one HP and the player goes "Ha he has no chance to win" then the opponent goes

>Cabalist tome
>Someone gets 2 of the 0 mana spell freeze
>Procs his quest
>Plays 2 arcane giants
>ZA WARUDO
>To be continued theme plays

This is absolutely going to fucking happen

>>172730204
Fuck off Ben.

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>>172730281

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>>172730276

>>172730276
>deal 3 damage to your hero
Wait what? I swear on the reveal it was the same effect as Wrathguard.

Actually now that it's like this, there's much less downside to running it.

>>172730257
If team 5 knew anything about balancing a card game they would understand that the 'stat tax' for an effect on a minion is supposed to go down the bigger the cost of the minion is.

In other words. Since you're dedicating so much more of your turn to one card, that big card is supposed to do more than a bunch of small guys that cost the same amount. Team 5 have made it the other way around though, which is why HS is such a fucking aggro-fest.

>he watches DisguisedChinkAutistwithspeachproblem

you dont belong here faggot. Back to Re ddit

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>>172730369
Ahh hello there

>>172730257
>I'd rather flip coins for 45 minutes then for 2 minutes

What the fuck is wrong with you

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Is this going to fit in warp mage?

>>172730501

I never even see that in wild desu

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>>172730501
..or y'know, Shaman has all the answers as usual.

>>172730369
Well, not always. In the wrong scenario you could end up taking much more damage if they can kill it with lots of pings. Theoretically you could take a maximum of 24 damage from the opponent pinging that thing (assuming no one heals or buffs it, but at that point there is no roof on how much damage you could take from the effect).

>>172730545
warm mage will almost always not have board control so no

whats a cheap yogg uild?

>>172730561
>Play Hydra.
>Shaman plays Volcano
>Suddenly 24 damage to my face and I die

Holy shit this is gonna happen at some point, I just know it.

>>172730531
Let me rephrase that:
I'd rather have coinflips that turn the flow of the game for 45 minutes rather than a single coinflip that fucks one player up mercilessly to the rest of the game.

>>172730545
Well considering Troggzor did literally nothing, Im going to go with no

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>>172730561

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>he preordered

>>172730719
That too, but Volcano is so much more fun in this particular case. That being said at this point is there anything Shaman can't do?

>>172730545
No. Warp Mage is OTK Arcane Giant bullshit that will play similarly to Freeze Mage.

Stall the opponent while playing your free generated spells until you have your instant kill combo and your quest completed than OTK them from full health.

You know, solitaire style freeze with a new twist. No room for expensive minions who's effect is too hard to trigger. Mage as a class already has more than enough spell generators in the next rotation.

>>172730783
>is there anything Shaman can't do?
lose

>>172730561
Will they really still be as good though? I remember them being bad because they didnt have early game (until they got trogg and 2 mana 3/4) they didnt get any good non elemental early game this expansion, will they really still exist in the same form?

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>>172730769
>there are anons that preordered and will get only 1 legendary and its going to be the rogue or priest quest

>>172730810
The Burgle Bully coin is a generated spell.

Warp mage is shit

>Too slow, midrange and aggro fuck it up
>Too inconsistent, other control decks fuck it up
>Requires to clog your deck up

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>>172730769
>mfw I preordered

>>172730857

I'm going to be salty as fuck if I get a quest as my only lego desu

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>He preordered.

>>172730810
Stupid player!

You are not supposed to play Warp as an OTK deck! It's a 5 mana innervate + draw a card! Don't you fucking DARE think about any funny stuff!

We want you to have

FUN

MINION BASED

COMBAT

So STOP with this BS! Or else!

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>>172730878
TAKE IT ALL IN BOY

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>>172730962
>brodeposters

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>>172730948
>BBRode makes Dshift deck
>expect it not to play as Dshift
what did team 5 meant by that?

>paying 50 freedom bucks for pack filler

>dragging .jpgs around in unity engine
>this is supposed to be fun

?

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Loli hero when?

>>172731159
>typing letters on a image boards
you having fun lad?

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Reminder that this card doubles the buffs played for the quest counter.

>>172730857
>>172730924
I'd probably be fine with either of those. Warlock is the one I don't care for.

Hunter, Mage and Warrior quests all seem interesting though.

>>172730860
So?

>Babbling Book
>Kabal Courier
>Kabal Chemist
>Kazukus
>Cabalist's Tome
>Arhmage Antionidas
>Rhonin
>Shimmering Tempest
>Mana Bind
>Steam Surger
>Primordial Glyph


That's just the Mage specific cards that generate spells. The deck will not need a slow, expensive minion that might get removed before it can even get it's effect off. It has more than enough spell generation already.

>>172731309
Kazakus is already out because you'll be playing double arcane giants or regular old exodia.

>>172730857
I'd be pretty happy with the priest quest because it's obviously going to be insanely powerful.

>>172731309
>Rhonin
Might as well just play Echo Mage at that point.

how soon people forget the power of burgly bully

not to mention that 2 procs lets you play antonidas and time warp on the same turn

>>172731309
for OTK mage needs only x2 arcane giants and echo of Medihv 4 8/8 and pyroblast will be enough to finish enemy on next turn. Everything else in deck should be stalling and spell generator

>>172731261
casting the stegosaurus on this seems pretty strong

>>172731368
I know, but my point was that there's more than enough shit that Mage can use to generate spells that is better than a slow-ass 5 drop that will probably die before it can even generate a spell.

>>172731447
Fair point

>>172730204
It's each card you've played, not earned or have anon.

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>>172731209
pedocraft weebs leave now

>>172731417
Yes
2x Babbling Book
2x Kabal Courier
2x Kabal Chemist
2x Shimmering Tempest
2x Primordial Glyph
2x Arcane Giant
2x Molten Reflection
Plus the standard Freeze Mage staples is around 30 cards.

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>>172731548
go back to shamaneddit, this is Luna thread

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>>172731261
>adapt it to get stealth (get 2 quests counters)
>Play two other cheap buffs on it the next turn
>Quest done

>>172731679
even the rest of your general doesn't like you
is that why you're posting here?

>>172731821
Stop fucking responding you goddamn retard. People like you are worse than the shadowverse posters.

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>>172731821
>I'll give shitposter (you)'s, that's a good trick

>>172731909
i am also a shadowverse poster. I just hate lunaposters

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>>172731990
>hate lunaposters
>mfw

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>Rogue in 2k17

>>172731747
Not how it works. The first 1/1 won't get the buff of the second. Each 1/1 only gets 1 buff, they one they were summoned for.

>>172732106
these are good though

>>172732106
>this plus coins
MALYROGUE BOIS
WHO NEEDS EMPEROR

>>172732123
That doesn't matter because you're playing 3 buffs to get your instawin quest done.

Good luck saving up 4 coins

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Post 'em

>Un'goro is pretty much GVG with the forced synergies, only toned down a bit because Team 5 doesn't want GVG to happen again

I hope you goys preordered!

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Time Warp is a cool card, but I imagine in 90% of scenarios it's going to be: "5 Mana - Draw a Card, Gain a Mana Crystal, give a minion charge"

The giant combos or sorcerer's apprentice + molten reflection combos are all pipe dreams. If you even get Time Warp you're probably gonna have to cast it immediately to not die, as you've spent the last 8 turns playing random ass spells to just get the quest done.

>>172732265
I don't care, I will have fun playing quest Warrior for a good month or so, then we will be back to shitposting and stale meta memes

>>172732265

not really

>>172732265
GvG: The Beginnings
MSOG: GvG 2: Electric Boogaloo
JTUG: GvG 3: Jungle Fever

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Rogue once again gets dicked over in the expansion.

It doesn't make sense. They're fucking over Miracle with the Conceal removal, so why did they print such low power cards?

Every other class gets something with a decent power level, except for rogue. Even their quest is some terrible meme shit

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>>172732505
Tricky

>>172732265
>Team 5 doesn't want GVG to happen again
Anon, MSG and postKara meta are way worse than GvG.

>>172732272
> I imagine
Since same spell in very comparable game always ends game by playing "pipe dreams" I would bet on time warp being viable than to listen to random /hsg/bearer and his thoughts

>discover
>discover
>adapt
>discover
>adapt
>add a random [x] card to your hand
more rng shitfest flavorless bullshit
I'll keep playing pirate and jade, no bullshit random effets in these decks

>>172732543
I didn't mean how bad the meta was but how the best decks are just the new tribe slapped together because they're overstated with the "downside" of having to play one of the tribe beforehand.

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Is CotW, dare I say it, back?

I'm not sure what to play

Elemental Shaman, Quest Warrior or Quest Priest?

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>>172732651
ive had just about enough Blizzard

>>172732561
I've played MTG for some time, including vintage. Time Walk in MTG is better than Time Warp because:

1. You don't need to do a quest to get it

2. There are more busted and infinite combos in MTG

3. Instants mean refreshing your mana is especially viable. It's good to be able to play something, Time Walk. Then on your extra turn you attack and hold up your mana to counter spell what they're going to do.

Time Warp is only going to serve to try and work in the arcane giants deck. I am skeptical because you have to assemble a combo while trying to stay alive, but you're forced to spend time casting random spells that may or may not benefit you. You could get something like sinister strike, and you cast it trying to finish the quest while you get punched in the face. If you use the spells you put in your deck then you're not working towards your win condition.

It's a very powerful effect, I just don't think it's going to be that good in hearthstone.

>>172732703
Elemental Shaman is going to be the bee's knees

>>172732703
jade shaman with elementals
aka the new tier 1 deck

>>172732748
what ? tiny?

>Haven't played Hearthstone in like a year
>I have a shit ton of dust and cards to disenchant, multiple golden legendaries
>Coming back for a few specific decks
>They all require shit from one night in karazan

Fucking hell m8. Babbling book especially is going to be core to Time Warp mage.

>>172732651
on that note is there any new interesting priest card? Hard mode: stealing other cards is not counted as interesting card

>>172732815

Karazhan is pretty good desu

>>172732907
no
more "add a random / discover" a random spell from [x]
boring an flavorless as always

>>172732812
The phrase "the bee's knees", meaning "the height of excellence", became popular in the U.S. in the 1920s, along with "the cat's whiskers" (possibly from the use of these in radio crystal sets), "the cat's pajamas" (pajamas were still new enough to be daring), and similar phrases that didn't endure: "the eel's ankle", "the elephant's instep", "the snake's hip" and "the capybara's spats".

>>172732980
Yeah, but I was looking forward to just using by shit load to dust to craft the decks I wanted instead of worrying about trying to open packs.

I only have like 200 gold is the problem.

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Post wish lists.

>>172731379
There are not even good deathrattle cards you can nzoth except cairne and 2 6 taunt
Also
>Devolve

>>172733045
Americans must be retarded

>>172733045
i was poking at your funnybone im quite alarmed. I remember an episode of family guy were Lois describes vaginal penetration as the bees knees and from that i figured out the meaning even though i wasnt familiar with the phrase

>>172733093
>There are not even good deathrattle cards you can nzoth
shieldbearer general

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Huntard is back

>>172733240
post them then
the turtle is the only good one because it has taunt and it's the only thing that makes sure you don't just die after you use all your mana to use nzoth

>>172733343
I'm pretty sure I won't die with my 40 health you retard.

Is anyone else here legitimately excited for Ungoro?

I am more excited for this set than the last few combined.

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>>172733268
I'm laughing so hard at cuckolds who rated this disgustingly broken card "playable" yet they vote "meta defining" for slow ass unplayable shit like the quest cards.

Can't wait for 1 months into the expansion when everyone is running some form of aggro beast deck to laugh at all these idiots.

This card is a way way better Fel Reaver. Health is basically meaningless because aggro decks don't give a fuck about their health pool.

>>172733383
yeah let me just play my 15 attack stealthed windufury minion
or play 15 giants and insta attacks with them
or fill my board with 0 mana minions
or just not let you play these shitty deathrattle minions and win before or play jade and auto win the value game

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>>172733398
Are you ready to spend 3 years worth of saved up dust to access a subset of the fun stuff?

You'll get 2 legendary freebies but you'll need at least like 7 more and 25 epics to play a couple of cool decks.

>>172733398

not really, kara and gadgetzan really worked me over

>Sorcerer's Apprentice
>Sorcerer's Apprentice
>Molten Reflection
>Molten Reflection
>Time Warp
>Antonidas
ggwp

>>172733507
the hard part is playing those random spells and surviving until then

>>172733507
>Putting two molten reflection in your deck
>Not just running Arcane Giantx2 + Alexstraza

Not only is it fewer cards, but Alex is viable to use on yourself vs aggro if you make it to turn 8.

>>172733572
call me when you arcane giants bypass the hordes of taunts your opponent has

>>172733437
The meta is just gonna be aggro jade shaman and hunter with this card
the only good quest is the paladin one because it's both easy to complete and the reward is an auto win and that's still too slow

>>172733268
>tfw still don't have call of the wild

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>>172733398
A bit excited, but also depressed at how much you need to spend to get at least 1 interesting deck going.

>>172733507
>2 mana sorc
>4 mana sorc
>6 mana reflect
>7 mana reflect
>8 mana for the warp

>7 mana for antonio

Gotta keep a spell in hand at least.

>>172733668
you can do sorc sorc reflect warp then tony and reflect you shieldbearer use your brain

>>172733632
Just blows my mind watching all these idiot streamers review cards and see this and be like "yeah it's like fel reaver but I don't think it's going to work"


Like nigger what the fuck are you even saying what the fuck is your slow ass "control" deck going to do when the Huntard curves out early game and then drops Hydra on 5 and Highmane on 6

>>172733668
You need to have a spell that costs 7 or less, so it shouldn't be THAT hard.

>>172733461
I'm not really sure what makes you think deathrattle priest is going to be a slow as fuck control deck.

I bet Lifecoach is the only one who will realize how broken Hydra is.

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>tier 1 deck
aggro jade shaman
control jade shaman with elementals
>tier 2 decks
Paladin quest
aggro hunter
>shit
everything else

>>172733760
>complaining about a 5 mana 8/8
>when a 4 mana 7/7 exists

>>172733817
Never reply to my posts again you shitter

>>172733398
It's the most interesting set in a while, with some really powerful cards.

The issue is that lol 2 legendaries for each class. Even if you buy 50 packs you're cucked.

>>172733817
Enjoy Druid turn oneing out a 8/8

Why are we all of a sudden pretending the paladin quest is any good?

>>172733847
good thing the quests and class legendaries are all shit

>>172733398
>expansion announcement
>cards get revealed
>everyone is excited
>so many fun control cards
>meta will surely slow down this time
>expansion releases
>1 week of people experimenting before they realize control is shit
>everyone goes back to aggro

Rinse and repeat

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>>172733837

>>172733876
they need to be devolved to realise they wasted all their dust on shit

>>172733891
Warlock quest is good and is definitely playable. Discolock got a lot of amazing tools.

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Will you be able to play all those fun decks you wanted to try out?

>>172733876
Shieldanons always fall for the pally meme. It's tradition at this point

>>172733876
Easy to complete
auto win
compare that to the other quests
>warrior
easy to complete
win the value game but not auto win
>priest
hard to complete
not an auto win
>mage
hard to complete
auto win but very conditional
>rogue
very hard to complete
not a good reward
>hunter
easy to complete
very good but not an auto win
>shaman
shit
>warlock
kinda easy to complete
great reward

>>172733876
It got better with new cards revealed but I still don't see it as anything but a meme. Remember there are a few shitters here who got hyped for goons too.

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>>172733973
first roll

>he preordered

>>172734034
The Pally quest reward is good but buff pally sucks huge cocks so it won't ever see play.

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>>172733973
FIRST CLICK OF 110 PACKS WHAT THE FUCK

>>172734034
>auto win

I get it now. It's the "+9 attack, windfury and stealth and it happens every time" meme. You yurocuckolds are retarded.

>>172734034
>auto win
How? Even with stealth Galvadon survival isn't guaranteed. Without Windfurry adaptation it's not that scary buffed or not.

>>172734117
Just don't forget with the murloc epic Paladin gets all the played buffs back in hand, he could buff up the Galvadon some more before attacking

>>172734065
yeah but at least the quest reward is an exodia
>>172734109
It's almost like you play it in a deck with lot of buffs
>>172734117
only devolve and the warlock removal kills it

>>172734152
>Just don't forget with the murloc epic Paladin gets all the played buffs back in hand
That's great and all but you have to draw and play all these cards first and dodge Hex/Poly/Silence in the process

>>172734034
>warlock
>great reward

>priest
>hard to complete
>literally just playing strong minions on curve

>paladin
>Easy to complete
>auto win

How can you be so wrong with just a single post

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>>172734117

>Play a few buffs on this
>Play 2 buffs on Vorax

Get double value on everything, buff up stealth windfury Galvadon. You will be running blessing of might.

Even without additional buffs on Galvadon

The only quest that will 100% see play and be viable is the Priest one simply because deathrattle minions are OP on their own so you don't lose anything by including them in your deck.

The only other quest that might see some play is the Warrior one as a finished for Control Warrior. Of course the problem there is that Jade shits on any Control deck, though a rag shot every turn might be enough to offset that.

Every other quest is unplayable garbage.

>>172734160
>only devolve and the warlock removal kills it
Brawl, heavy AoE if Galvadon didn't get DS, Mass Dispel (lol), Freezing Trap, that 1/2 snail with taunt can kill it. I'm sure there are other ways.

>>172734241
Must be nice to live in your fantasy world where you can just do whatever you want and not be dead by turn 6 because you played shitty suboptimal cards.

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>>172734283
>this whole post

>>172734283
Including the Mage's quest that makes the hideous unreasonable demand that they use spells?

>>172734241
See >>172734215
It's exactly same type of perfect world scenarios we've seen from goons fans during MSG reveals

>>172734283
>Slap Druid quest in Jade druid
>Auto complete it without changing anything
>Slap in some high cost stuff, done

>>172734283
There is no point to this speculation because every single time fuckers try to guess what is or isn't good they're always wrong.

It might turn out all of the quests are too slow because the aggro menace and jade menace were not properly addressed. It might turn out that half the quests are viable while the other half suck.

I don't think there has been a single expansion that was found out before release. Don't get me wrong, they're found out pretty quickly, but that is just because of the sheer amount of people who play. With the online community sharing thousands of decks every day, they get tested and culled out very quickly. But as far as actually figuring out the viable decks or what form they will take before release is impossible.

>>172734359
Make sure to screencap it and refer to it in 2 months you sub rank 20 shitter.


>>172734367
Spells that aren't in your deck. It will take a long long ass time to complete the mage quest and control mage simply isn't a thing. And even if you do complete it the reward is suboptimal. You pay 5 mana to get 10 mana. You get a grad total of 5 extra mana.

>>172734367
It's RNG dependent.

You can get a bunch of decent spells and it's easy to complete. If you get bad or high cost spells you're fucked.

>>172734445
>Draw a card, give your entire board charge, gain 10 mana
>Shit

>>172734425
>I don't think there has been a single expansion that was found out before release

Everyone and their mother figured out Pirates and Jades would be the meta decks.

>>172733847
>tfw this is the first time I spent money on hearthstone

>>172734445
>mage
new freeze mage
>druid
finish quest malygos auctioneer 0 mana cycle throught your whole deck => win
there you go faggot priest quest is useless 40 health is useless you are just a fucking idiot

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>>172734445
>And even if you do complete it the reward is suboptimal. You pay 5 mana to get 10 mana. You get a grad total of 5 extra mana.

You can't actually be this retarded.

Are you willingly ignoring effectively giving your minions charge and drawing a card? And 5 additional mana is crazy good, you're playing it down waay too much.

>>172734502
>>172734570

If you play that card you'll be playing a spell heavy control deck.

The odds of you having any sort of reasonable board as a control deck is very low. You'll be lucky to have 1 minion on board.

>>172734529
That is blatantly not true and you know it.

People assumed that Reno decks would be the best, and were unsure if jade would work because of how few jade cards there were. Goons were overrated, but no one really thought they were gonna be amazing.

No one predicted that pirates would be as strong as they were. It literally started with JUST aggro warrior putting a patches in the deck. It took a while for the pirate rogues and shamans to show up.

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>>172734425
Lifecoach visited Blizzard before the MSG release. He was asked to make a deck and battle Blizzard's top legend players with their carefully crafted and designed decks.

He slapped pirate warrior together, got like a 19/20 winrate and stressed to them that pirates are OP.

T5 proceeded to ignore his input. Mike Donais later made a post on reddit 'well you know, Lifecoach isn't a game designer'.

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>>172734590

>>172734616
>People assumed that Reno decks would be the best

You mean shitters assumed. Literally no one with a brain though goods were any good.

Lifecoach literally said the moment he saw the cards that the meta will be Pirates and everything else would be second tier.. Go watch his review.

>>172734590
That's the thing, you just need Alex and two giants.They don't even need to be in play for a turn beforehand.

>>172734619
>Mike Donais
He is the biggest autofellating faggot on the team

>>172734590
ARCANE GIANT
ARCANE GIANT

ZA
WARRUDO

>>172733973
I got Sunkeeper Tarim, Elise and Ozruk. I'm fucked, aren't I?

>>172734230
>strong deathrattle minions
in wild maybe
zombie chow, the 4/3 mech, belcher aren't in standard anymore

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>>172733973
I like this.

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>>172734619
>Now it's like Control Warrior's getting played, but also, there's this Druid deck.

>>172734109
It happens every time my opponent plays one, never if I play one.

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my fucking sides

>>172734109
And the dream kazakus potion is AOE + summon minions and it's almost an auto win on curve
how often do you get it ?

>>172734619
Mike "Priest Legendary will be too strong" Donias is a fucking retard.

>>172734561
>there you go faggot priest quest is useless 40 health is useless you are just a fucking idiot
You are completely ignoring the fact that reno decks are among the strongest in this meta right now and priest now gets a reno on steroids.
I'm sure what you typed made sense in your little world but it's just not reality.

>>172734421
>Slap Druid quest in Jade druid
>turns out minions summoned by spells and effects don't count for the quest
>turns out buffs copied by minion effects don't count for pally quest either

What now?

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Put these quests in their appropriate tiers.

>>172734961
> reno decks are among the strongest in this meta
>deckS
only reno warlock is good, and It's not even tier 1

>>172734919
or AOE and damage
or AOE and 8/8
or minions and 8/8
or damage and minions
or damage and 8/8

or pretty much more than half of all combinations are huge. It's not the same.

>>172735018
you just need windfury + stealth to get a good outcome, and you have 5 chance at it

>>172730276
Remember Aggro Druid with Fel Reavers?

Now imagine it with a beast Fel Reaver that doesn't burn your deck.

How you enjoy this getting Innervated out on turn 3 while BGH costs 5.

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>>172734978
Do you understand what summon means?

>>172735000
swap druid and warlock

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Place your bets.

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Quick, post your TOP 3 cards.

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>>172734978
Voraxx specifically states 'cast another copy'

The Paladin quest specifically asks you to 'cast' the spells.

>>172735167
Ali Raza

>>172735013
The only T1 deck is pirate warrior so yeah I guess every other deck is shit by that standard.

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>>172735000

>>172733398

You are now aware that by the time the expansion comes out, half the cards will already be discarded and the meta will be defined.

Pre releasing all cards is retarded.

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>>172735229
Nah, worse/better

>>172735202
shaman legend
arcanologist
Hydra
everything else is shit

>>172735110
Sometimes in hearthstone "summon" means "play this shit from hand".

>>172735274
Why? All card games do it, this make you hyped for the cards and make you buy cards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSJcxtGk1P4

>>172735324
Can you name a single example?

>>172735324
Play is play
Summon is anything that put a minion on the board.
Play activate Battlecry
Summon does not.

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>>172735324
That's worded as 'play' you goddamn mongoloid.

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>>172735324
you imbecile

>>172733383
>Win against midrange
>Loose to averything else

>>172735216
I guess this one will depend on whether the copied buffs will be counted as actually another copy or a Voraxx effect. Also, on who does the casting, same way as spells cast by Servant of Yogg'Saron aren't counted as you casting the spell and don't count for Yogg's effect.

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Need some help with deckbuilding, I'm absolute garbage at it.
These are the three decks I would be interested in playing on release day, although it is hard to build control without knowing the meta.

>>172735442
take jade shaman and replace the shit that rotates with elementals
also with devolve

>Blizzard pushing this retarded "le epic random cards mage" mage

The quest reward is actually amazing but the condition is dumb

>>172735431
>Loose to averything else
You can not be serious. It's literally the anti-aggro deck. You don't even need to draw your reno anymore.

>>172734619
Arrogant cunts

>>172735563
same with warlock

>>172735339

It's great for the dollar pile that Brode gets to roll around in but it's a big negative for players. All the fun is gone because within an hour your opponents are net decking and your meme decks lose.

>>172735610
Netdecking would happen wether it's revealed or just day 1. You are saving about 1 hour of play time if you dont reveal cards.

Why are all the class minion legendaries so shit ? The only playable one is the shaman elemental

>>172735705
they refuse to learn from their mistakes. At the end of the day its just team 5 being incompetent

>>172735705
You don't care for Priest's Super Reno?

>>172735798
MINION legendaries.

>>172735798

>Reno

Reno was good because you could play it T6. This quest needs nut draw to do that.

Also they are Jewing us hard with the epics more than the legendaries. Have fun spending 10k on epics alone if you want to try everything.

>>172735798
there aren't enough good deathrattle minions to play the quest
the 4 mana turtle is ok
the 1 mana 1/1 is okayish
the others are very weak, and you need to fill your deck with deathrattle minions to have a chance to complete the quest, they're just not good enough

>>172735581
Except you cant complete it pre turn 10

>After a century of being not shit priest had a mid tier control deck having to use three different archetypes
>Dragon gutted
>Reno gutted
>Left with death rattle memes
>2/3 of the legionaries from classic you could add are gone
>In place trash, trash, more trash, and a reno that requires you to be a death rattle meme

god bless

>Do freeze stuff while drawing your 4 giants
>Put iceblock on
>Summon 4 8/8 bodies for 8 mana
>Time wrrrrp
Pls stop

>>172736042
play 6 cards from outside your deck. Thats a pretty big step you skipped idiot

>Priest STILL doesn't have a win condition

>>172735581
>need to play 7 shit minions to complete the quest
wew, I'm glad that my 1 mana 1/1 will completely destroy the aggro decks

>>172730276
*plays avenging wrath*
nothing personnel... kid...

>>172736141
You can do this easily while you wait for your 4 giants

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>>172736141

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Which taunts would you put in a Fire Plume's Heart deck?

There's quite a selection to choose from.

>>172736038(me)
*against agro ofc

I never dusted and cards but as a f2p player who really wants to play aggro to its fully potential I think I need to do it.
The hunter quest looks amazing

You don't even need a stupid combo for Time Warp.

Just wait for even one turn where your minions aren't cleared, and suddenly your whole board has windfury.

>>172736141

You already play that anyway. I know you want it? Is rotating but casino mage is called that for a reason.

>>172736260
bloodhoof brave
tar creeper
alley armorsmith
maybe the gastropod
second rate bruiser
maybe cornered sentry
all the others are shit

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>>172729951
That's a nice weapon you got there

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>Shaman will be top tier again in Un'Goro
when will it end?

>>172736392
Tar lord looks like decent one of, if ancient of war sees Play, so should it

>>172736646
>if ancient of war sees Play, so should it
ancient of war is 10x better, and druid has ramp to make up for the huge mana cost
tar lord is not playable

>>172732249
>Having Shaman cards below God tier

Go ahead, show me one that isn't good.

>>172736646

Tar lord is gonna be a new star in unicorn purifier confuse priest. 11 hp with taunt is tasty.

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>rewatch the reveal stream
>frodan didn't play a single new rogue card
>didn't even show off all the emotes

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What's the next legendary effect they're going to recycle?

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>>172732249
>Warlock quest and legendary in tier 1

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For justice

>>172736172
>all 8 hit face

>>172736796
You forgot Herald Volwhatever.

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How's that saving up going /hsg/?

>>172736903
more like for unplayable shit

>>172736796
Any legendary card with a unique mechanic that they think is awfully neglected.

Knuckles.
Herald Volazj.
Hallazeal the Ascended.
Sergeant Sally.

>>172736903
I wish they finally stopped beta-testing the paladin class and either make it fully playable, or just remove it temporarily so that I'm getting less unplayable cards in packs until they finish paladin

>>172736903
>You might have cleared my board but my quest is complete! Foolish opponent, I play Galvadon and adapt it five times! You can't hope to stop me now!

deadly shot gg

>>172736943

should have 6.5k at least and i literally did not play at all besides doing the bare minimum with dailies since my last gold dump with gadgetzan

>>172736924
>>172737023
Priest has that 2/3 for 3 mana that makes a 1/1 copy. It's not Heralds full effect but that's as close as they can get.

>>172736848
>not putting trust in the discolock

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>>172736716
The 1 mana 2/1 is, well, a 1 mana 2/1.

Literally ONLY good against the mage hero power, that's it.

>>172737039
also:
any hard board clear
devolve
freezing trap
occasionally tinkmaster
frost nova doomsayer (gee I'm sure paladin and his many removal spells could deal with it)
alternatively, just not getting the right adaptations

>>172736903
It needs the 3 mana egg that summons a 5/5

>>172737584
It's just all the paladin cards.

>>172736716
>>172737541
Actually never mind, it's an elemental as well.

>>172737582
meant for >>172737109

>>172732740
Lol nerd

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IMPORTANT POLL KICKING IN

http://www.strawpoll.me/12651789
http://www.strawpoll.me/12651789
http://www.strawpoll.me/12651789

Just got Yogg from the free pack. Those kind of memes are long dead, right? I was praying for N'Zoth from that pack.

>>172737582
>>172737702
Exactly.

What possessed them to make a reward for a quest be nothing but a big creature that can be easily handled by targetless removal?

Will the new Arena be slow or super slow?


We lose some BIG guys, but get a lot of BIG guys and discover cards back.

Mage still probably going to be top tier though.

>>172736943
I'll have about 9k gold, 15k dust and 55 Un'Goro packs (or 56 if next week's brawl also gives new packs) by the time it releases.

Depending on how many legendaries I pull from my preorder I'm planning to spend 2500 to 4500 gold on it.

>>172736260
2x I know a guy
2x Cornered Sentry
2x Stonehill Defender
2x Tar Creeper
2x Stubborn Gastropod
2x Second-Rate Bruiser
maybe a dirty rat or two, probably for after you finish

Second-rate after cornered is looking pretty good though, you pump out two taunts instead of one at turn 5. With just the low cost high health taunts you get more room to combo with your warrior spells, weapons and card draw. Put in all the low cost good ones, get the broken hero power.

>>172737761
Pretty much. You can still play it for a bit of fun but don't be surprised when it kills itself on the second spell.

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What's the point in the Priest Legendary? All the quests/ mechanics in the game no longer allow for fatigue strategies, so what the fuck is setting your hero's health to 40 going to do to help you win the game? It's not even useful against Aggro since it takes too long to get in those matchups.

I don't see how Priest is going to compete in the new standard. No win condition.

>>172737834
>they solved this problem with other classes
>giving them tokens that can't be targeted
>what about pala?
>fuck him

Retard question: would quest count crads played before it?

>>172738247
no

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>>172738126
>All the quests/ mechanics in the game
>standard
only cucks will play standard after rotation

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>>172738126

Two options:

>team 5 is terrible at creating new cards

or

>they also think and plan ahead for future expansions (see Dragons)

>>172738278
These same mechanics exist in Wild. Other class quest rewards + Jade will kill fatigue forever.

>>172738363
I barely see any jade druid in wild

>>172738278
I'll play it for the packs, what is it? play 10 standard games and get 5 packs or something?

>>172738410
Jade Shaman is also a thing. Just because it isn't infinite doesn't mean Control has enough answers.

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>awaken the makers
Aggro is always good, there's never been a time aggro hasn't been good and I doubt that's going to change. This will beat aggro and is good because of it.
>the last kaleidosaur
Originally thought it was trash, but the new buff synergy cards makes it look pretty good. This one's a gamble though I guess, might be meme tier.
>jungle giants
Druids aren't playing anything on turn 1 anyway with living roots gone. It will either spawn a new deck or just be played in jade. Only way this card won't see play IMO is because of the card you lose from playing it, but that affects all quests.
>fire plume's heart
Over all good card, lot's of really sttong taunts now too. Won't be tier 1 I think, but will see some play.
>open the waygate
I think the combo will be too slow to be tier 1. There's lot's of taunts out there now, so the arcane giant play might be a little too hard to pull off at times, could try the Anton variant but it requires a lot of setup.
>unite the murlocs
I think this card is really good, but other shaman decks will be stronger and played in favor of it. Lots of strong murlocs this expansion.
>the marsh queen
I think this is probably the most over hyped card this expansion. I feel like other variants of hunter will be just better now that they got dinomancy. I feel like not drawing into the broods on after you play the queen will just lose you a lot of games. I know this is a really unpopular opinion though, and I'll gladly admit I were wrong if it turns out broken.
>the caverns below
Just way too inconsistent, probably really fun to play though.
>lakkari sacrifice
I think disco will be a thing, but they'll probably not play this. It's just too expensive you know?

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>top decks currently are Pirate Warrior (loses finley), Water Rogue (loses Silent Knight), Aggro Shaman (loses troggs and totem golems, azure drakes)
>dragon priest, reno decks, tempo mage, current zoolock (although discolock might be stronger) all eviscerated
>miracle losing conceal, azure drakes and tomb pillagers

how can anybody delude themselves into thinking aggro decks aren't going to dominate the meta?

>>172737738
Voted Warrior, because it seems the most fun and flavourful, even if it's shit.

>>172738697
Awaken the masters has absolutely nothing in it that suggests it will beat aggro, aggro will have you dead before you even get a chance to complete it

>>172737761
It is good to play when your opponent has a large board and you don't, as well as when you need to draw many cards. Otherwise, don't play it. You have to maximize your chance for him to not kill himself.

>>172738697
stopped reading at awaken the makers
there aren't enough good deathrattle minions in standard right now, at least the warrior quest has some good taunt minions

>>172738705

>millions of taunts
>shitton of early game answers to aggro
>goirillion of healing
>no new support cards for aggro (except hunter. zoo is a control deck)

????

>>172738873
>millions of taunt
tar creeper is the only good one
>shitton of early game answers to aggro
???
>gorillons of healing
???
>no new support cards for aggro
did you miss the 5 mana 8/8 with no downside that perfectly aggro decks ?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12651883
http://www.strawpoll.me/12651883
http://www.strawpoll.me/12651883

Multiple choice poll.

What decks will shape the JtU meta?

>>172739060
I don't see Time Warp mage here

>>172739108
Slot it into a Casino Mage or Freeze Mage shell with 2x Molten 2x Arcane.

>>172739108
freeze mage
loses ice lance, gets the quest

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POST YOUR SIMULATED UN'GORO PACKS

>>172739182
>>172739198
Got it

>>172739236
I don't see the point of this since you'll just be disappointed when your actual packs are worse.

>>172739060
Forgot to vote murloc shaman after seeing new murloc cards

>>172738697
>Druids aren't playing anything on turn 1 anyway

Jade Idol

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>>172739309
no kidding
I'd kill to get this in 50 packs

>the rank 14s of /hsg/ are voicing their epic opinions on the strength of decks again

lmao

>>172739060
le Jade druid will dominate meta XD.
Reminder that Jade druid never was a good deck and hasn't received anything that makes it better.

>>172739546
It's an ok deck, jade shaman is just superior, and it gets a lot of support in the new expansion

>>172739546
Aside from Aviana/Kun Malygos decks (which are defunct post-JtU), Jade Druid's the only real type of druid currently seeing play, so it had to go on that poll.

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>Here's your makeshift pyroblast

>>172739738
Yes, it had to go on that poll. But it also had to get a bad result. Yet, it is currently the 5th position deck. Jade druid NEVER "dominated" meta and NEVER will.

>>172738697
shaman's is a meme, but a playable one.

priest's is good, but it's not as good as reno vs. aggro since getting it out on turn 6 is basically impossible. On the other hand, not having to play a highlander deck will improve the consistency and potential of priest's early removal like pain, potion of madness, maybe good old wild pyro shenanigans.

druid's just doesn't do anything special. jades are better, and even if malydruid somehow survived, this quest wouldn't work too well with him and would be ultimately pointless.

warlock's is potentially really powerful, but discard decks are very incosistent and one more discard synergy card will not make them much more consistent.

hunter's looks pretty busted, going to have to see how it pans out.

rogue's is playable, but I don't think it's worth it because even aggro rogue is not a minion shitting deck. But with so many key cards rotating out inevitably resulting in changes to the miracle archetype, who knows.

mage's is a distaster waiting to happen.

taunt warrior will not be a thing, so the quest is irrelevant.

they should remove paladin from the game because expansion after expansion, it's becoming clear they're unable to design paladin cards

thank you for reading