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Fuck Babymetal Edition!

>Server Homepage
https://elysium-project.org/

>Guilds:
ELYSIUM
Alliance guild: <Mandate of Heaven>
Horde guild: <Salty Dogs>

/who "guild name", whisper anyone!

>Vanilla WoW database
http://db.vanillagaming.org

>Addons
https://forum.elysium-project.org/forum/268-ui-addons-macros/

>Leveling Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Z2vplxWZACKmCpw1B8vexKQ2vwjRqFRjcJhHjAxxJg/edit


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>>172481319
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Better grud than that cancer
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>>172662738
i agree, based technognome
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horde are niggers
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>>172662987
Whatever you say Lumikaru.
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>>172662542
>WoD models (Drop the MPQ in your data folder)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/igrn28dw2r9qghr/patch-5.mpq
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>>172662987
Says the tranny lover lmao
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https://twitter.com/Sodapoppintv/status/847881029813665793
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>>172662789
in addition to benedict almost always being pulled with an additional mob, a rare spawn is located in the same room this level 9, will almost always certainly kill you and he literally stands in the doorway between you and benedict.

dark storm is another awfuly placed quest but no where nearly as bad as the last offender, a real issue with the quest pacing is the raptor egg quest you will only get AFTER visiting razor hill, so people will go to the echo isles get raped by trolls higher levels than them an on the off chance that they complete them in a 5 man will be forced to return for a single quest.

tirsifal glades is just fucking terrible, mostly due to the adgaman windmill and crypt which is horribly mod dense and a death trap.
part 2 of the undead warrior quest line takes place in that crypt, rooms full of packs of undead that can only be pulled in packs of 3, it really makes you wonder what blizzard was thinking
probably something along the lines of LMAO WEED,
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>>172663281
didn't elysium give this guy a free level 60
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Can someone point me to a Gatherer equivalent add-on that works for Elysium, including it's database? Specially for herbs.
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>>172663146
that looks like shit, why would anybody want that?
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Holy SHIT

Why do HUMAN FEMALES have such BIG ASSES? She's pulling the whole instance with it
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>4 minutes into the dungeon, rogue ninja's a chest without /rolling
>pretends to not speak english
>tank tells him to /roll or we find another rogue
>literally 1 second after he says that: [1. General - the dungeon we're in] different rogue LFG
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Is there a macro to switch player names on and off, or, even better, only display enemy names?
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>>172662542
Any hunters on horde side elysium selling princess runs?
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>>172665715
roll for your ring shitter
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What's the name of that one private server where you have free level 60's for practice?
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guess a foot
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>>172666276
GoldenEye 007 (1997 video game)
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>>172666105
retrowow
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Someone redpill me on Druid leveling, it's about the only class ive never played in vanilla and im giving it a go now. I know you're supposed to go 2h. but what are the nuances, like what gear to look out for while leveling, and any good stuff to start looking for or buy at 30/40, weapon wise? Is there anything to look out for to make quality of life while leveling better?
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There are 2 different plate drops in the dungeon.
The tank already has drop #1. The fury warrior has neither.
The tank proposes that if drop #1 drops, the fury warrior will get it, and if drop #2 drops, the tank gets it.

Is this fair?
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>>172667129
no. if you didnt want to compete for loot, dont bring fury warr dps
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Someone red pill me on mage leveling, it is the only class I have never played in vanilla and I am playing it now. I know you are supposed to go frost. but what are the nuances; what gear to look out for while leveling, any good stuff to start looking for or buy at 30/40, weapon wise? Is there anything to look out for to make quality of life while leveling better?
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>>172667316
The fair alternative is that the fury warrior doesn't get a group at all?
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>>172667129
No it is not fair, he's promising something that is already yours by virtue of having no others that need it, in exchange you are giving him something you both need while he gives you something he does not.
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>>172666749
Thank you.
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>>172667523
Yes
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>>172667523
yeah. tough luck. healers shouldnt dps in dungeons and neither should warriors
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>>172667523
>>172667589
>>172667739
fury warriors should NEVER get a group, ever, even when the tank is a druid
fuck fury warriors
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>>172667523
The fair alternative is that you don't promise people loot they would of gotten anyway, in exchange for loot you may not get.

The point is it isn't fair and it will never be fair, because being fair puts you at a disadvantage.

Fury should really just tank though, you can do any 5 man you want without being prot.
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>>172667930
>being fair puts you at a disadvantage.
exactly
if you are "fair", the shitter warrior gets more chances at loot than the actual backbone tank who essentially gets penalized for having already ran the dungeon
the "not fair" alternative is that both players get a 50:50 of stuff they need
since a 50:50 split is "not fair" what ends up happening is the other guy gets the boot
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>>172662542

I'm scared guys, what should I do?
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>>172667523
>being a deeps war in a group
>ever
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>>172668091
or since the warrior tank is probably the group leader who made the group, he can just kick the fury dps and get a rogue instead
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>>172668091
lets imagine for one second dps warriors aren't the scum of the earth, lets also imagine in the very unlikely scenario that both plate items have the same drop rate and are around the same place in the instance so one isn't more or less farm able than the other.

Telling someone hey I already this piece of loot so I'l give it to you, if you don't roll on my loot that you also need isn't fair. It's not plain and simple.

But I agree with you the real conversation is this,
Hey I don't feel like looking for a rogue so it's your lucky day, don't fucking roll on my shit and if your lucky you may get a drop w/e.

the point is the conversation was about fair and not about dps warriors being the scum of the earth or less wanted due to loot competition. So long as he's not shit and doing good dps he's entitled to the loot and both drops that's the only scenario where its fair.
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>>172668156
what did you do
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>>172668798

>reading comprehension
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>>172668695
Haha dude like what the fuck just roll a Rogue if you want to dps 5mans. Even pure classes like Rogues and Mage get treated like garbage by tanks, why should you get to roll on their loot too and not get booted.
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>>172669442
I agree with you though senpai.
but like just imagine a warlock saying it to a mage or something or one healer saying it to another. instead of a dps warrior where the first thought it why isn't this asshole just tanking himself.
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>>172669442
He's literally agreeing with that point and addressing the actual question you fucking nog
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>>172669610
Except the tank should be the one making the group? How lazy are you man, the guy tanking your group is a dps Warrior just like you and is tanking because he's the only class that can do it. DPS are expendable should he really feel sorry for a dumbass like you enough to give you his gear.
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>>172669923
dude what are you even talking about I don't even play warrior, i think you are confused.
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>>172669710
There's no actual question you're a moron if you don't kick dps Warriors from your group as a tank when there's literally 10 Rogues and Mages blasting you with whispers to join your group. Same goes for Paladin and Shaman healers who need on your 2handers except good healers are actually hard to come by.
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>>172668695
>isn't fair. It's not plain and simple.
There's 2 alternatives:
1 - Both warriors get 1 item each, so on average they will be equally benefited
And
2 - One warrior gets 0.5 items, the other gets 1.5

In a vacuum, which seems fairest? Obviously 1, but people will want 2 instead because "it's the way it's always done".
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>>172670357
Mages never want to join runs, at least on Horde. I can easily fill up dungeons with hunters/rogues but mages are hard to come by.
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>>172669990
Yo', do you need help?
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>>172641791
>>172644682
Thank you this was very informative, after how many combo points should I use the finishing move after? Or should I not bother and use it on slice and dice instead?

Also what's a good zone to kill horde in once I'm stronger than them?
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>played on nostalrius pve at release because pvp realm had more than 10k peoples waiting in queue
>decide to play on elysium because why not
>mfw witnessing more cancer in 10 hours than in 200 on darrowshire
How the fuck is that even possible.
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http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.3.0
>All dungeons now have a cap on group size to limit the number of players that may enter the dungeon. It was necessary to add this cap as raiding these dungeons trivialized much of the content. Because of this change we can now look to adding better loot to them during future content patches.

So, wait, really up to 1.3 any size of group could enter any dungeons/raids? That's pretty fucking rad.
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>>172672316
barrens chat?
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>>172672405
No just stormwind, elwynn forest and westfall.
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>>172670485
or there's the third alternative, don't bring him
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>>172666921
b-bump
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Is there an addon that lets you keep player notes? I want to remember why I ignored someone and keeping a .txt is too autistic
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>>172670357
It's a fucking thought experiment about fair loot distribution, the classes involved are irrelevant, the guy even gave you an example with a mage and warlock instead. Are you incapable of understanding this? Are you actually disabled?
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>>172673317
buddy go easy on him it's not his fault he's retarded
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>wanna make a nelf warrior
>can't decide between male or female

I like male animations/sounds more, but male nelf warriors feels like lorerape.
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>Elysium has zero devs
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>>172674074
Remember when AQ was going to be released
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>cat form doesn't give immunity to fall damage
wtf is this shit
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>>172674368
It never gave immunity to fall damage it reduces it
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>>172674074
imagine being an anathema player right now
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>>172674368
panthers/lions are too large to have a non-fatal terminal velocity
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>>172666276
melori
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>>172663146
>>172663483
wow, I was actually hopeful something like this existed. the new models are some of the only things I like in newer patches
It seems a bit hacky, as the faces only change texture when you mess the face slider. I remember there being more than one face.
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>>172675920
I love the WoD models.
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>used to play warrior
>"if it's not doable with a potion, food buff, and tricky hamstring bandage, it's just not doable solo"

>play druid
>mfw cheesing rare elites with starfire+rootlock
I
CAN
SOLO
ANYTHIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGG
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>>172672396
It had to be like that, otherwise raids would have to get to MC 5 men at a time
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>>172676031
why are you posting me?
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>>172676031
>>172676297
This is me.
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>>172676297
You're my favorite Gnome!
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>>172676065
>play mage
>if you can slow it, you can solo it

>play warlock
>if you can fear it, you can solo it

>play hunter
>you can solo it

>play paladin
>you can solo it, two other mobs and a rogue trying to gank you
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>>172676429
>that pudgy face
DELET
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>>172676547
No.
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>>172676065
>be rogue, druid, and warrior player
>play warlock for the first time since retail bc
>wondering why I haven't enjoyed the immense pleasure that comes from not getting hit every encounter because of minion tanking
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>>172673979
female
its not even lore rape if mail though they weren't always druids.
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>>172676792
>let letting your VW tank one mob covered in dots, fearing another mob covered in dots and tanking a 3rd mob covered in dots yourself

mate what are you doing
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>>172667343

anything of the eagle is good (stam + int). spelldmg is meh until raiding / end game dungeons. weapons doesn't really matter. get a staff with stam+int
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>horde tries to raid Elwynn/SW front area
>does okay until the odds get evened with some higher level Allys
>get absolutely btfo
So...this is the power of the PvP server. Horde gankers btfo as usual the instant the opposition gets put on equal ground.
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guys quick question
you're in a raid with +1 roll rules

you are tanking with
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=13091
and
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=17065
drops, all the tanks roll are you win.
suddenly your raid leader convinces you that you should give it to him becasue your neck is better, he tells you its fine because of +1 loot rolls meaning you'll get the next drop and he wont be able to win.
was this fair?
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>>172677914
This is how it always goes

>2-3 horde players ganking a lowbie area
>fuck off the instant some alliance 60's come
or
>entire horde raid on some lowbie area
>get completely BTFO the moment the alliance conterraid shows up
and last but not least
>alliance raid on some lowbie horde area
>no one fights back and they're there all day because nobody wants to fight an alliance premade
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I am curious, in vanilla is it easier to just have gathering professions at 60 and then use that money made from AH to buy other stuff? Or should one just switch to stuff like alchemy and engineering at that point?

I was initially thinking of having my warrior keep doing his current skinning/mining till 60 then eventually switch to alchemy and engineering, but as of right now at lvl 16, mining especially has been very lucrative. Without going too much out of the way I have a bit more than five gold and that's after spending it on skills, professions, some gear, and obviously not selling stuff like cloth that gets used for bandages. I notice that the higher level mining bars sell for a fuck ton. Like why worry about 2g per potion when you are selling high end bars at the end for 20-50g per bar?
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>>172678440
your neck is not better
thus
your guild leader is full of bullshit
he could at the very least say "your neck is good enough"
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you're on the bridge minding your own business when suddenly this clique blocks your path

what do?
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>>172678841
whos that on the left?
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>>172678841
that is one ugly gnome
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>>172678957
madti
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>>172678638
One of your professions should always be engineering.
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>>172678841
>that gnome in the middle
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>>172678841
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>>172678638
If you're playing a warrior you can't go wrong with Engineering + Mining, especially for PvP and making money.
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I need to be redpilled.
What was the actual pop in 2006? People like to say it was capped to 2.5k or some dumb shit, and then everyone else says that was in early 2004 and the server pop rose way above that later.
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>>172679204
>>172679000
>>172679318

Artie is cute! >_<
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>>172679513
i've never once seen a source that proves 2.5k was cap
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Why are paladins so /comfy/?
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>>172679513
Blizzard never released information of server pops in vanilla.

2.5-3k caps are estimates by people who played on full-pop servers in vanilla.
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>>172679513
based on a quick google search I came up with
https://www.somebits.com/weblog/culture/games/warcraft/goldPrices.html
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/robgreen/16410403
pop censuses from 2005 and 2006 which both say the average blizzlike pop was >6k
doesn't say on-peak or off-peak though
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>>172680038
>Blizzard never released information of server pops in vanilla.
But there were plenty of addons that counted up the amount of online players from /who
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>>172679978
Lack of crazy mechanics for combat. Seal/judgement, then sit back and relax. All other moves make it impossible to die as well. Paladin is max comfy class.
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>>172680103
actually nevermind after looking more into this
http://web.archive.org/web/20050830004640/http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php
>The data is limited to only characters level 10 and up that have been seen in the previous 30 days.
>in the previous 30 days.
nope this isn't online players at all

no idea
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>>172679513
Apparently the 2.5k number comes from the 200,000 initial sales divided by the 80 servers they had by that time (40 at release, then a week or so later 40 more servers). Of course realistically player population was never divided this evenly, but I guess it makes sense if people had long ass queues.
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where did everyone go?
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Retailcuck here, I've been trying to play as Alliance to see the differences but it feels weird playing the girl faction.

Is shaman ok at leveling and is resto fun? It got nerfed to shit in retail but the healing kit of the spec is still fun, is it still fun in vanilla?
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>>172682108
>playing monster faction
Uggh, enjoy that virginity.
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>>172681848
i am here. leveling new toon slowly but surely
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>>172678841
marry kill fuck
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>>172676065
HOLY SHIIT I JUST GOT CAT FORM
>mfw killing shit in seconds instead of autoattacking and altabbing
>mfw +30% speed at level 21
>mfw NO DOWNTIME
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>>172679978
I actually think hunter may be competitive levels of comfy. 1 button macro to send pet in, hunters mark, and auto shot. Then serpent sting. That's all you do. No downtime either.
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>>172682108
Shamans are fun as fuck to level man. Resto leveling as ANY class is dumb as hell. Don't do it. You can heal just as well for any leveling dungeon anyways. Do not go resto til 55+ at least (really 58 or 60).

Resto shams at 60 are enjoyable for sure.
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>>172682108
Shamans are shit
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Any min/maxers around?

I have mind carver and the cloak from DM, and also similar previs gear from before like inventors sword and brightcloth cloak.

The difference between the pieces of gear is one set has +1% spell crit, the others have +7 spell damage.

On this server which is better for raiding? Theorycraft tells me 1% crit is = to +6.5 spell damage....which would mean the +7 damage is better. And yet people in my guild are saying put mind carver in the bank with it's +7 spell damage until it gets buffed in a later patch.

Thoughts?
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>>172682108
>girl faction
What?

Ant just look at OP copypasta for leveling. Shamans level proc based 2h Enhancement with burst moves as well. Resto is in the middle ground of Priest's healing and Pally's utility.
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>>172682670
This isn't your final form, wait for level 30 and get even faster.
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>>172682874
>>172682108
I'm leveling as resto dohohoho

Only until I get nature's swiftness though (to make things instant cast) and then rest into elemental. I haven't healed in fucking a decade + so I'll appreciate the leeway that gives me in dungeons I think, also there's plenty of +dps/leveling stuff in the resto tree like chance to hit +3% and higher nature spell damage AND healing crit chance (I think).

Pvp spec ayy

Also ghost doggo form is fucking comfy I love it.
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Did someone somewhere say min/max?
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>>172683408
Horde is the real nigga faction, the Alliance has too many saps that don't have fun raiding redridge or goldshire
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>>172684024
They are alliance, they can't exactly raid their own places. If what the other guy above said is true though, I guess Horde's better if you want to see some actual retaliation since Horde's too pussy or something to protect their lower level colleagues from the same thing.
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I'm full BiS at this point minus wep and true strike (rogue)

Are there any alternatives to dalrend that'll get me invited to raids?
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>>172684024
Protecting lowbies from dindu niggers was the most fun I've had.
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is there something more annoying than people announcing in guild chat that they leveld up

>ding

fucking faggots nobody cares
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>>172684565
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>>172684565
It's like they gave paladins to alliance and made them unkillable for rogues for the sole purpose of burning undead rogues
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>>172683080

it's 0.5 spd, it's literally nothing even from a minmaxers pov. take whichever you want desu
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>>172683080

but if you're talking about the crit cloak get the 18 spd one from dm:w which is better than all
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>>172684674
People doing internet style shitposting in an MMO. Like shit dude you got websites like 4chan that exist for this exact reason. It's an MMO, not acting below autistic tier doesn't work in other social settings all that well. Some of the "guild drama" that gets posted on here's a decent example of this. If you wanna do fun asshole things, go raid the opposing faction's towns and capitals, do other world PvP stuff, etc. last thing I want is cancer impeding not just the chats, but often dungeon progress as well.
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>>172685097
lmao being a slave is not what being an adult means, you can be an adult without having a job or going to college
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>>172685295
hello tucker
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Male Nelf Druid
Femorc sham
Male orc warloc/warrior
Male troll hunter
Male dwarf paladin
Male dwarf warrior
Male dwarf priest
Male human mage
(Undead male rogue ONLY if you're intending to gank redridge/menethil to the end of times)
(Fem undead rogue ONLY if you're making a twink)

If your character doesn't fall in this slot it's time to delete and remake
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>janny removs my post twice because the image made fun of their waifu

cant make this shit up, hang urself from nearest tree
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>>172685358
*waves*
hey there! how are ya?
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>>172685523
you're the last person to be lecturing people on adulthood you junkie
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>>172685474
>not even a single mention of UD shadow priest, one of the most ridiculous classes in the game
sure thing amigo
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>>172685295
My parents told me not to listen to people like you...

But if what you say is tr-

No! I won't be tempted.
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>>172685474
>Orc warlock even though warlocks are banned in the Horde lore-wise
>no space for Human Warrior when it's both lore fitting and also by far the best warrior option due to OP weapon racials
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>>172685295
You see, while what you're saying isn't inherently wrong, we also like to not burden our old ass shit parents by having them work so we can use that or use their retirement money. Nor do we like being stuck in one place with welfare. Also we don't need leeches like you in the world so kill yourself immediately.
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>>172685572
why do you say that? you are no better than me, your opinion holds no more value than mine. i know what i speak of, dont consider me stupid.
>>172685705
the choice is truly yours. waste your time in there indoctrination camps(AKA college) and working for der juden your whole life.. or you can be free. like me
>>172686019
i am most certianly not a burden, and you absolutely can go places on welfare. spend your ssi money and food stamps , and make money under the table, you will live better than most wagies
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>>172686268
>you are no better than me

Seeing as I'm not a teenage heroin addict living with my parents, yeah, I'd say I'm doing better
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>>172686268
>ssi money
Degeneracy is a flaw that should be punishable by death. It's certainly not a disability.

>under the table money from not working that hard
>comparable at all to good career money
Pssshhhh. If you wanna make real good money doing shady shit, you gotta work just as hard.
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>>172686357
you are quick to talk down to others, does it make you feel better? superior?
>>172686636
meh,my plan is to eventually sell coke and boy after i clean up a bit, save up 10k+ and then get into day trading and make my riches there
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>>172686843
This is someone pretending to be tucker

Tucker wants to be a professional sudoku
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>>172686843
Yes I feel vastly superior when I see a junkie teenager coming on 4chan bragging about leeching off his parents

Sort your life out and stop blogging here
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>>172686843
lol
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HORDE BTFO
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>>172686843
>deadbeat with no money
>I'll start selling coke eventually
Yeah, not with no decent amount of starting money you won't. Jesus Christ you NEET teenagers talk like you know your shut but really don't. The other day someone was trying to willingly admit that they smoke crack, but the way they talked about it shows they have never come even within a mile of the stuff.
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>>172686935
this is me. i have moments when i get extremely emotional(suicidal) but for most part depression is manageable. im sure i will feel better once im off opiates for good, im not to stable right now im doing dope every other day and suboxone inbetween to keep me well.
>>172686993
>>172687010
>>172687283
LOL ok man. i know people, i can get the best coke and heroin in my fuckin city dawg. and of course thats why i say eventually after i clean up a bit. i just plan on making some fast money then getting into day trading like i said
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>>172687554
>pretending to be tucker
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>>172687554
Post your smack "tucker"

He would never miss such an opportunity because that's all he is; the needle in his hand. And he knows it
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>>172687554
>I-I know people, man. I got this.
>M-muh depression so all this is justified hahaha
You're literally tumblr teen but replace SJW stuff with deadbeat druggie. Jesus Christ no wonder the Horde sucks at every aspect of the game; they got idiots like this.
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>People pretending to be me

Thats what i like to see
Im about to hit this fat shot
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>>172688572
Are you not embarrassed when you go out? I hope you realize that everybody sees those tracks.
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>>172688572
>Horde literally filled with non-blacks pretending to act like deadbeat drug addict black people, going so far as to post fake pictures of mosquito bites
Lmao.
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>>172689594
>sucks your blood after a shot
That is disgusting, sounds like a real tramp you got there.
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>>172689594
>she likes to suck the blood after
jimcarreydumbNdumberGagging.gif

I'm glad you have someone but god damn that's gross
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>>172689594
Cool, I can go google suboxone and pick one of the pictures of it and post it on 4chan as well.

>deadbeat
>girlfriend
Lmao sure thing. "Girl" friend.
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>>172688572
>>172689594
HOW DOES THE ANIME GUY GET BANNED SO FAST BUT THIS SHIT DOESNT
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>>172690012
Anime affects more people than drugs
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DRUID IS FUN AS FUCK HOLY SHIT
WHO CARES IF I'M NOT MOLTENCORE-GRADE
LEVELING IS A BLAST AND I CAN GO TO ANY 5MAN ~AND~ GET ALL THE DROPS TOO
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>>172690663
But you will never be a rogue, always healing and crying about your class
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>>172691175
I DON'T FUCKING CARE I'M HAVING SO MUCH FUN GETTING THERE WOW
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>>172690663
Yeah getting to the end's a lot of fun. The end isn't all that great unless you like flag carrying in WSG.
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>>172691341
YOU WILL NEVER BE A ROGUE
YOU WILL ONLY BE GOOD AT RUNNING AWAY
IF YOU WON'T REROLL ROGUE YOUR MOTHER WILL DIE IN HER SLEEP TONIGHT
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Has anyone attempted to make guilds for more pre-WoW no clusterfuck lore setting? It would feel most viable in vanilla I think. So like alliance guild with no night elves allowed. Horde guild with no undead. Conversely, night elves/undead only guild. Also no warlocks allowed except maybe in the Undead only guild.
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>>172692736

>being an rp fag when the point of vanilla wow is to minmax

lmao
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>>172693374
>not being an RP Fag in vanilla before the lore got absolutely mutilated
>thinks Vanilla's not even that strict min maxing gets in the way
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hellfire boys ww@
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>>172693683
Warcraft lore was garbage in vanilla, a world built on the story of 3 games that were only set in small parts of it. BC and Wotlk worked way better with the source and expanded it, and then they jumped the shark with cataclysm and that's how we wound up with pandaria (although pandaria was alright in most aspects except the expansion itself)
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>>172692736
probably not. very few people rp on pvp servers, and the ones who do probably limit it to erp. you'd have to find some other community or a group of friends to do it
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>>172694304
Nah, Vanilla was the best with lore because it has the least amount of inconsistencies with everything that was established before. To claim vanilla didn't expand is also delusional (ex. one of the most loved things with Vanilla has always been the expansion of lore related to Elememtals and Old gods.)

TBC was fucking horrible, with the Dranei retcon being arguably one of the worst things in lore.

Wrath also fucked up the Lich King with sheer stupidity, and misses the point of why Arthas fell, LK's plans, etc.


These are also not the only examples.
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>>172678841
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>>172679086
>>172678841
is it true Madti has a bf or do I have a chance?
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>>172696051
Madti is a guy
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>>172696143
Yes, and?
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How fucked is devilsaur camping? Should i go LW or mining?
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>>172696051
yeah I do
he's a normie though, not playing this game
imagine a slightly worse looking Chris Evans

still have 1-2 orbiter spots open, just send me gold if you want in

>>172696143
last time I checked I didn't have a dick

also, fuckin lol at Drchristie's pic, literal cave troll
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>>172692493
I DON'T WANT TO BE A STUPID FUCKING ROGUE DPS CLASSES ARE CANCER
IT'S MY FIRST CHARACTER IN THIS SERVER AND IM HAVING WHAT I BELIEVE IS THE FUNNEST STRETCH TO 60 IMAGINABLE AND IT WON'T EVEN MATTER THAT MY CLASS IS NOT RAIDWORTHY UNTIL I GET THERE
I CAN DO EVERYTHING AND I NEVER DIE HOLY SHIT THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN ANYTHING ELSE I'VE PLAYED
AFTER I GET 60 I'LL PROBABLY ROLL WARRIOR AGAIN BECAUSE TANKING IS THE BEST AND THIS TIME I'LL USE MY 60 MONEY TO DO IT WITH ENGINEERING
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>>172696830
>implying dirty ass 4chan posting WoW player have the hygiene to check down there
Nice try, but we know you have a dick.
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>>172698048
500g for nudes
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>tfw you get really fucked up irl and you buy clothes from AH that make your toon look like he is wearing a blue tracksuit and you go around killing low level mobs for others with bare hands and spouting russia memes.
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>>172697945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4TyqYsC26g
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>join level 60 AB
>everyone is mage/warlock/rogue
>half the team runs behind the spawn and afk's
>alliance steamrolls and gets easy honor
Why is horde so cucked? I mean holy shit, why would you even queue just to get farmed?
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>>172699432
report everyone afk'ing for wintrading.
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Reminder that if you rolled on Elysium you may as well be gargling autistic jizz.
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Reminder that warrior cucks need to bow before their masters.
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A friend of mine dragged me into Kronos and gave me a account with a 60 rogue. Kronos already has 1.12 and I was checking elysium now and the timeline. Is it on patch 1.12 aswell but the contet is unlocked by the server or are you getting the real patch by patch? I'am seriously thinking about starting on elysium now. Beign 60 with kinda meh gear is no fun to play with/against full AQ geared players.
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Reminder that little diaper baby hordeniggers need to be purged.
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>>172702086
>no waifus
are you forgetting mommy hugmeplz?
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>>172702274
Why is this picture implying that orc lock and UD rogue are bad choices for racials?
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>>172703221
because its a bait image you mong
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>>172703221
its propaganda
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>>172702274
>tfw some alliance autist took the time out of his day to make this
No surprise since everyone on ally side seems to be a NEET.
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reeeee?
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>>172705731
reee
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>12 hours rollback
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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What do I play

>prefer mail/plate sets in WoW, makes you stand out better

>love the idea of smiting niggers as a paladin
>don't want to heal until I'm lucky enough to get the gear to start being unkillable horde nightmare
>don't want to level a warrior for the nth time

>always mained a warlock and I've been among the server bests all through bc->kungfu panda
>don't like the vanilla leveling 1-50 for them

>like the idea of enhancement shaman 1shots or elemental chain lightning devastation
>don't want to level one, don't want to heal as one, don't want to gear for months before I can have fun

Priests rogues mages druids are all fun in their respective fields but are odd the table, Priest maybe but leveling them feels like leveling a warlock without the pet, hunter is off the table I don't want training wheels and I don't want to be useless come naxx
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>>172706527
uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh how would you know it was 12 hours???? did u play over 12 hours in one go????
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>>172706618
Leveling a priest is so fucking different from leveling a lock what the fuck are you saying
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>>172706618
You want to be a retribution paladin, don't fight it.
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>>172706931
>dots pet wand
>dots wand
Wow very different

>>172707054
I know...
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>>172707213
Telling you, if you go ret you won't need ton of gear just a good weapon since your bubble and should do a great job.
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>>172707213
>dots pet get second target fear nuke fear nuke
If you only fight one mob at a time as lock you're doing it very, very wrong
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help need a class to make money for warrior alt
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>>172709663
Mage
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>>172709663
Mage
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>>172709663
Mage
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>>172706618
Don't fall for the ret pally meme, it's honestly not good. In BG's you'll just get kited to death and your teammates will hate you. PVP healing is tremendously fun, I don't know what you're talking about. It is less so in vanilla cause no arena but don't fall for the meme "healing = no fun".
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more leaks for my /elyg/ boys
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>>172714982
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>>172714982
This shit got old in like 2008
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>>172714982
christ
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>>172685092
Yah I'm working on it

Only things I need from DM now are the cloak from DM:W and the belt from tribute
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>>172714982
what the fuck anon holy shit
MODS!!!!!1111!!1!1!!!
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>>172706618
Be an elemental shaman

I'm enjoying the fuck out of it, gonna be cool in pvp
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>>172706618
>wants to be meme specs that rely on outgearing their opponents
>doesn't want to gear up
>doesn't wanna level as the class with the second easiest leveling

play retail
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Updates of me having fun leveling as druid
>enemy rogue questing in the same area as me
>nigga is constantly chasing me around in stealth trying to gank me while fighting a mob
>i'm so much faster than him at making a loopdeloop and finding mobs to kill he never catches up
>i take less than 10s to kill each mob so he has no chance to surprise me there either
>even if he did I would have 80% health still
>after about 5 mins of this stupid tom and invisible jerry chase a shaman walks up and smashes his shit in
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So people on alliance literally not pvp except in premades? Is the alliance that much less populated than horde too?

Queues on BGs go from 1-5 minutes long to over 30-40 minutes as soon as a premade logs off. I can't believe there's only 15 people pvping at the same time.
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>>172718608
>>172718608
>>172718608
Ayyyy

More like this pls
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How come nobody ever realizes a priest's incredible skill to make dungeons shorter with soothe mind?
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>>172719848
its realized in dm tribute runs
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>get the jump on a 23 hunter as a 22 rogue
>die
This isn't supposed to happen, right?
I didn't let him fire a single shot. He potioned, but that shouldn't be too much of a deal, right?
Am I doing something wrong with cripplingx2 opening with garotte since I have swords and spamming SS?
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Elysium or Anathema
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>>172721429
What level are your weapons?
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>>172721429
Imagine being this bad

Scary thought
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>>172721647
Level 14 speed 2.6 MH and 17 speed 1.7 OH.
>>172721736
Any tips?
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>>172721626
ely or dead
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How do I start my financial dominantion relationship with Madti?
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>>172721837
Not him, but I've mained rogues, hunters and paladins since the dawn of fucking time.

If you're a clicker, stop. Use keybinds instead. Don't keyboard turn. Remove turning from keyboard, replace with strafe, then put keybinds on the previous strafe buttons. Backpedal is for faggots.

Get better weapons. Your mainhand weapon should be the one with higher damage, since it directly affects your Sinister Strike.

Don't spam abilities. Rogues are easy, but they aren't faceroll. Have enough energy to do your CCs when necessary, and be aware of what your opponent can throw at you (and when they're likely to do it).
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>GUYS LOOK WE'RE ADDING MEETING STONES FINALLY!
>oh no they're not the ones that teleport party members they're just super shitty group finders nobody ever uses
>>they don't even work anyways
B r a v o
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>>172722151
You don't.
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Paging Salty Dogs, pls invite me :3
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>>172722980
>they're not the ones that teleport party members
Those are in TBC
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>>172723994
nobody remembers the vanilla ones because they were so ass
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>>172723890
I want to SERVE Madti
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Huh, reading through the forums it turns out that the Horde has a pretty shitty ninja looting problem as well.

Is there anything even remotely redeeming about the Horde?

Ugly as fuck
Ninja looters
Inefficient raiders
Never win BGs
Resort to ganking/stalk griefing lowbies because they never win BGs
Their high levels don't come help their lower levels as often during those rare instances where Ally decides to gank
They have the inferior exclusive class
Horde often being misunderstood as evil really brings in the tryhard immature edgy cringe teens
Combine above with people's faux elitism because they genuinely believe "vanilla hardcore! Retail casual!" for even more cringe
Horde got the shit end of questing zones and capitals as well
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>>172724842
we have a lot more fun playing the game and just messing around
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>>172724842
Horde gets worse and worse every server we hop too as all the try hards figure out Paladins are better and go to Alliance to min-max leaving a bunch of literal screaming teenagers and third world slavs/chinks to fend for themselves on horde

Why do you think morons like FF went Horde while virtually everyone else went Ally, he couldn't even get into a premade and finish ranking because he was so bad
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>>172724701
Kill yourself.
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hmmmmm
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>>172724982
>finalflash

interest lost
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>>172724842

what do you expect for literal niggers who dont know what honorless target means?
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>>172724842
>Ugly as fuck
t. erper
>Ninja looters
not horde exclusive
>Inefficient raiders
not horde exclusive
>Never win BGs
apart from pugs
>Resort to ganking/stalk griefing lowbies because they never win BGs
or because queue times are longer due to the overpopulation
>Their high levels don't come help their lower levels as often during those rare instances where Ally decides to gank
implying alliance players ever leave IF
>They have the inferior exclusive class
only for WSG
>Horde often being misunderstood as evil really brings in the tryhard immature edgy cringe teens
and alliance gets the do-gooder autists
>Combine above with people's faux elitism because they genuinely believe "vanilla hardcore! Retail casual!" for even more cringe
it's not a false statement even if it's dumb
>Horde got the shit end of questing zones and capitals as well
you didn't even try for this one
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Are Warlocks good? Thinking of making one as my first character, but not sure if I want the trouble of having to travel to high level zones ot get soul shards before I can do anything.
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What did Salty Dogs mean by this?
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>>172726304
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>>172726913
theyre mediocre in raids until aq, great in pvp depending on spec
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>>172727027
A e s t h e t i c
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why are alliance worth no honor when i kill them outside diremaul portals?
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Is Elysium as dead as this general?

I'm terrified to start playing on it because all the negative things I've heard about the Elysium staff and their practices, but I really want to play on a vanilla server
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>"PvP"
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>>172729187
Every vanilla server has some shady shit going on.
If you want to play, just play.
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>>172729312
I never heard anything about Nostalrius staffers charging gold spammers to get unbanned or leaving the project in such large quantities. I just don't want to hop into a dying server and waste my time as their doomsday clock is ticking down
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>>172729509
The Elysium project as a whole is definitely trending downward, as summer approaches and new projects release (Crestfall and Gummycraft specifically) the population will only continue to fall

They already are having to merge two of their realms because one died already
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>>172729509
If you're that worried, wait until Crestfall. Don't assume it'll be any better, though.
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>>172729583
Thanks, I'll probably hold out until another server comes up to avoid the developing stigma and then I can experience robust leveling community
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>>172729220
>splitting honor scraps amongst 8 people
Sad!
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Anyone know some good ways to get reputation with orgrimmar (no the cloth quests are not in yet)?
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>>172729509

ye nost just shut down the whole thing.

the big hype seems to be over for elysium but you still have a really good population.
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>>172726913
>but not sure if I want the trouble of having to travel to high level zones ot get soul shards before I can do anything
That's not how it works, anon, you don't even need soul shards up until lvl 10. You just finish the mobs with the spell called Drain Soul, and if you can get experience/honor from it, you'll also get a shard. So from green to red, you'll get one if Drain Soul is channeled while the mob is dying. Main use for it is to summon demons and for some spells and buffs, but it won't affect your main spell rotation. Just make sure you always have enough (so one at least) to summon a void walker in case it passes out.

It's a fun class, I loved it very much on retail vanilla-TBC. I'm playing one now once again after almost 10 years on ally to see how are the class quests on the other side. I've also missed raiding with it in vanilla, so I hope to get a feeling of it on one day. Keep in mind that in vanilla there's a debuff limit on mobs.

For talents, put 5 to make Corruption instant, then another 5 to increase your stamina. From that point on, you can pretty much do whatever you want. As I said, I mainly played in TBC, but it had at least 3 viable specs there, and so far I think it also applies here (pure affly, pure destro, demo-destro hybrid with succubus sacrifice and constant shadow bolt spamming).
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>>172729187
>dying
>5-7k people
I don't think so, anon.
https://elysium-project.org/status

The starting rush is over, so the questing areas are quite comfy now. You don't have to stand in a line for every mob, but you can find people if you need help with a quest at nearly any time.

The staff drama doesn't affect the game play in any way, so don't care about that.

Of course, like in the case of every private server, there's a chance that it could be shut down at any given minute, but you'll get used to it, and will teach you important life lessons like how to enjoy the moment.
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>>172726913
Soul shards are pretty much never an issue unless you have a really bad run in a BG or someone is deliberately ganking your pet.

You get your first soul bag at 20, and it should always either be full or being filled.
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>Alliance vs Horde
>Mage vs Warlock

Any bros want to help me make my decision? I was originally thinking horde warlock and now I'm kind of on the fence for an alliance mage. Any noticeable difference in community behavior based on realm?
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>have a 52 pally on elys
>the thought of being a healbot at 60 is super demotivating

i've invested so much time but this is killing me
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>>172731452
you should've known paladin would result in healslave, idiot.
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>>172731452
I feel the same way about my Warrior, although I do kind of enjoy tanking I know that it's all I'll be doing come 60 until I get the best gear which will take fucking forever. Even then I need to make friends with a good healer and prove that I'm good at hitting things. I'd take the ease of leveling other classes over playing this Warrior any day.
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how come there hasnt been any animeposting in a good while? quality of threads has gone up tenfold
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>>172731667
i've gotten who the pillow was

can anyone help me
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>>172731451

mages is more fun but thats just my opinion
both sides have some nice people and some dicks

go gnome mage desu since we need more allys
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>>172679318
<GRIZZLY>
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>>172731816
I had thought about leveling a male dwarf priest but I triggered a PTSD flashback to greater magic wanding in retail vanilla days
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>>172719848
>>172721207
>its realized in dm tribute runs
100% this

it makes it like 5 billion times shorter

>>172725270
fucking top fucking lel
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>>172731451
Havent played horde on elysium, but have played hrde on every other server and generallyit draws in people who are goofy/eccentric, possibly obnoxious at their worst. Horde is the more popular faction and as such I got killed by quite a few horde groups and I noticed that some event tended to pvp with a friend once they were 5 lvls above the questing zone level. Few were chill though and either helped me with quests, mined peacefully alongside you, whereas some few individuals went out of their way to venture into grey zones and grief.

Alliance players mostly mind their own business and after finishing their quest will just leave party and play solo. They tend to not be as sociable and for a select few niggers who ditch party when they get their drop, most are alright. Expect people to bitch in stv general chat about "unfair" pvp.
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>>172731746
i dont understand
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What did the GM mean by this?
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Updated master race class/race combos

> druids are awesome and lorewise perfect for NEs
>orc male shaman, thrall etc, cow shaman also ok
> orc Warlock underrated but still retarded, undead Warlock only race that makes sense, gnome MAYBE
>tauren, dwarf, orc warrior
>human paladin
>human priest if holy, undead or troll if shadow (darkspears are evil yo)
>elf or dwarf hunter both fine, only Tauren if horde
> gnome mage full stop
> human rogue

Debate me
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>>172733197
>undead Warlock only race that makes sense
>undead summonung demons
>slaves of demons summoning demons to be their slaves
???
>orc Warlock underrated but still retarded
>who is Gul'dan?
Other than that, pretty solid list.
t. Human Rogue
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>>172733310
Warlock is dishonorable trickery that should never have been allowed into the horde

Also I think of the forsaken as like emancipated women or black people, with newfound freedom they take off their shackles, and they get back at their former oppressors demanding they serve them instead
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>>172733559
It's still retarded lore wise.
Orcs are the only race with a warlock background in the lore.
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>>172733197
>witch doctors and shadow hunters dont exist cause hurr durr im retarded
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>>172733197
>undead
>making sense as a playable race in general
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>>172733592
You don't need a "warlock background" to learn about fel magics.
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All I wanna do is be a boomkin. Can I raid with vg still?
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>they play premades 24/7
>still lower rank than me
>literal shitter that skips days and farms 25k honor a day
Explain.
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>>172733598
If you consider WoW canon (as you should) then it does make sense that few clever undead got freed by Sylvanas.
>>172733664
You DO need a warlock background to be on a master race/class combo list though.
Otherwise it's just your personal taste/fanfiction.
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>>172733594
I said troll shadow priest what more do you want

Troll Warlock would be cool though tbqh they are more evil than the orcs really

Should've made orc priests and troll Warlock
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>>172733698
we already have 2 lol
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>>172733930
> orc priests
next you gonna say gnomes can be paladins
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>>172733750
No, you don't. That's not how fel magic works. Everyone can tap into fel if they want, it's free meth for everyone.
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>>172732149
>Alliance players mostly mind their own business and after finishing their quest will just leave party and play solo. They tend to not be as sociable and for a select few niggers who ditch party when they get their drop, most are alright.

Damn, this so much. I was wondering why is this tho. I've met with some very friendly dudes, but my general feeling is that:
- they don't speak english
- they come from retail and don't think speaking is necessary (down to the point that even saying "hi", "goodbye" and "ty" is redundant)
- they are huge normies (like myself) and want to finish what they've planned ahead in the very limited time they have for that day.
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>>172733750
How does it make sense to make what should've been NPC rep faction into playable race?
Foreskin weren't numerous, as it required a lot of willpower for them to not go feral when Lich King's control over them faded.
It's like making High Elves playable. Makes just as much sense.
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>>172733698

We literally have two moonkins in MoH

Moonkins are fucking amazing, the aura on pala healers is insane
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>>172734023
Read what I wrote again. Just because you CAN do it doesn't mean it's the best combo.
You personally like UD locks, but lore wise Orcs are much more connected to being a warlock and the lore for them as warlocks goes far deeper (for example their fucking skin color).
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>>172734108
After they breed we'll reintroduce them to the wilds.
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>>172734108
no we take them to fill the raid and because they're guild members not because they're "amazing"
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>>172734145
What about this:

Imho human warlocks makes sense. Medivh also got kind of corrupted by demons, but generally speaking heretics and the betrayers of the Holy Light are a possibility, almost a necessity in every fantasy story where there's some sort of holy church.
Undeads are basically ex-humans, thus they should be able to do whatever they did when they were actually alive.
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>>172734324
You don't get it. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be human/UD/gnome/whatever warlocks.
I'm just saying that orcs are the lore wise most fitting race for warlocks. Everything else is just personal taste.
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>>172734180
what?

Boomkins are always in the wild
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>>172734464
But anon, I think this is you who don't understand my post.

>orcs are the lore wise most fitting race for warlocks. Everything else is just personal taste.
I wanted to post a counter argument for that, saying that hum/ud locks make sense lore wise, and not simply a matter of personal taste.
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>>172734108
>years of theory crafting and raid experience
proven wrong by MoH
or maybe MC just isn't that demanding of a raid.
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>>172734614
>MC just isn't that demanding of a raid
WHO KNEW
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>>172734604
Make sense lore wise =! most fitting lore wise.
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>>172734464
I don't really agree with your stance on orc being the most fitting. You're literally only focusing on Gul'dan and refusing to acknowledge vanilla warlock "class fantasy" which basically has nothing to do with the fel outside of pulling demons randomly from the nether.
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I'm fucking doing it lads I'm going to live the dream.

Dubs names my boomkin. Even dubs = male, odd = female.

Trips and I send you a gold.
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>>172735857
>boomkin
have fun doing less dps than the main tank
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>>172735857
>dubs
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>>172735857
restoforlife
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>>172736058
Maybe I just name him Dubs that's a neat name
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>>172735623
Well then feel free to prove to me that any race is better fitting lore wise than orcs. I'll wait.
And no, "undead are evil and warlocks are evil" is not an argument.
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>>172735857
clucklord
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>>172735857
Orcdestroy

>>172736596
Top jej
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>>172735857
niggerfaggot
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How time consuming is it to gear up a Warrior at 60? Do I just run dungeons over and over as a tank and only go for tank gear? Or should I build a fury and arms set too?
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>>172736727
you run shit like strat brd ubrs etc over and over till you have your fury pre raid, don't bother aiming for tanking pre raid gear since the chances of you ever getting a tank spot in a raid is slim to none. obviously you will be rolling on tank gear but don't go out of your way to get it since eventually t1/2 will cover tanking if you ever get it.

arms is basically just pvping to gear up
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>>172736727
>>172736936
also if you're rolling in dosh you can get your bis fury stuff from blacksmiths and the ah (like edgemasters)
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what do the models from the OP look like on druid forms? is bear form still retarded?
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>>172733197
First warlocks were orcs, Azerothian mages got taught only after invasion.
How fucking retarded can you be

Orc > gnome > human=undead


Actually reading up the list i can tell you have no idea what youve talking about.
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>>172737290
first =/= best
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god damn all i can think of are meme names

send help
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>>172737461
Casters are all about knowledge.
Do you really think other races could get as easy access to Fel knowledge as orcs.
The same reason why human mages should be top, followed by highelves/gnomes and forsaken/trolls should be way below, since they don't have access to Dalaran universities and shit.

For that reason I rank gnomes high on warlock since they can get access to high magic schooling but they're fucking rogues who would go for Fel.
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>>172735857
Dowehavedubsonvg
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>>172735857
childmolstera
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>>172735623
I'm not even the person you were talking to before, but I appreciate your attempt to argue with yourself on my behalf. Really goes to show the general mental state that you're in.
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>undead rogue ambushes me at 10% hp
>ress
>attack him, practically destroy him, he blinds and sprints
>can only assume screaming in caps in general channel
>5 hordes with mounts rushing to his location
>heal him up
>gang up on me
>rogue /lol's

Does being horde come with a diaper or do you have to buy one yourself?
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>>172739545
why u so mad brah its just a vidia game
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>>172739545
ganking you and crying for help when he cant gank is literally the job description of undead rogues

you should expect nothing different
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>>172739831
At least hunters do it solo, rogues just end up losing and then blind + sprint like retards until help arrives
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>>172739545
at this point i would only roll unded rogue for irony purposes andwith a fitting name. its the linkin park of class combos
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>>172740052
Still a million times better than UD mage though.
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>>172735857
lazornigguh
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>>172735857
Moonvurtne
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>want to buy gold
>too scared
:(
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>>172740052
nothing wrong with linkin park
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>>172740465
*crawls in ur skin*
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>>172740409
Never buy from chinks and their malware websites, go to ownedcore and look for trusted sellers.
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>>172740519
>memesongs are bad songs
still nothing wrong with linkin park
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>>172740713
I never implied there way. ;^)
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Alliance-pill me on Busdriver.

Anyone got dirt on him from Kronos days?
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Every time it goes over 7k pop it starts lagging like shit. It was good with 12k pop before. Nope took their shekels so elysium didn't pay for required hosting. ITS A DDOS GOYIM. Fucking shit server.
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>>172740594
You ever bought gold? Got anything to recommend? I don't wanna buy gold, but I'm at level 44 and found myself utterly and totally bored with leveling, I'd pay for a boost to 60 right now.
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>>172741045
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>>172741045
who
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going to roll a mage any tips boys?
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>>172724982
What's the addon in here that lets you see how many uses of a spell you have before going oom?
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>>172741709
yeah go undead
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>>172742389
hotgay_spells (1.12.1)

haha trolled !
noob. :P .
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>>172743014
Are you homophobic or something?
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>>172739545
>attack the faction with significantly more players
>be surprised when a bunch show up out of nowhere
Was alliance always this delusional?
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>>172743386
no i have my hairy dick in youre shitty ass <3 hot homo sex...
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>>172739545
I thought horde don't help each other out? Which one is it ally cucks?
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Alliance or Horde, really can't decide.
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>>172742628
already went troll
I'm a shitter in pvp anyway so i don't care about meme racials
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>>172743902
enjoy the most disgusting model and animations vanilla has to offer, anon.
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>>172743609
Would you rather be a shitskin or white?
There's more shitskins but whites are superior.
>>172744287
How are trolls more disgusting than undead?
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>>172744472
Shitskins are cooler
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>>172744472
Their entire model is fucked up, they have awful animations for literally everything from movement to crafting and you have to look at their awful fucking feet.
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>>172744501
>cooler
Thats what all mudsharks say and then they pay the toll.
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>>172744615
>implying sucking bbc is bad

t. homo
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>>172744720
Yeah suck the aids stick you faggot
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>>172726304
>erper
Nah. They don't look as good in armor in general.

>not horde exclusive
Alliance have an objectively higher rate of guilds that have finished more raids and finished them faster despite more Horde on server.

>apart from pugs
>implies there's ever skill involved in pugs especially when possibility of being outnumbered

>muh queue times
>don't just resort to practicing against each other or something if this was true

>implying ally ever leave IF
They do. Another big part of hamlets being dominantly horde is the fact that alliance does eventually help their people more often.

>only for WSG
Nope. Pally has better utility for raids as well as pvp.

>do-gooder autists
>having people help each other and be nice to each other and be fair with loot in an MMO is a bad thing

>not a false statement
You have neither played retail, not have ever played WoW before joining Nost/Elysium. Vanilla's "hard" comes from a near banging head into wall style grind for gear/items. Retail's "hard" is far more skill based due to more complex mechanics. Basing things off of essentially warrior leveling in vanilla is just dumb.

>didn't even try
Westfall and Duskshore are widely considered among the best zones in the older days where there's a larger presence of just on faction. Barrens has the meme chat, but that's it.

>>172726913
Easy to level. Good utility. Pretty decent damage dealers in PvE. In demand for raids. Have the best PvP spec. The original edgelord class. What's not to love?

>>172731451
Horde has more people, but I really have no clue what these guys actually do with their time in game because it appears that Alliance has higher skilled players on average.

>>172731452
PvP will be your friend. Among the advantages of vanilla is having a viable Shockadin build in PvP. You're not only healing, but also doing burst damage with holy shock as well. Much better than shitty Retribution pally as well.
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>>172702231
1.12 core but itemization and content follow patch progress. Dire Maul 1.3 just hit
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>>172732149
>>172734048
>making up false shit like Ally doesn't have groups that level together all the time
>making up false shit like nobody says hi or ty or np
>despite problems related to ninja looting being more common in horde
>despite alliance always having more people willing to protect their lowbies from ganking even though they have no technical obligation to do so
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should I be alliance or horde I only care about pve.
but I'm not rolling on darrowshire becasue it's got significantly less people
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For the Warlock thing, there's no fitting class at all from a lore perspective especially near vanilla time. Thrall banned necromancers and warlocks from the Horde. Allowing them in any capacity is inconsistent with his character and the events the Horde went through.

It only makes sense for Undead in that characteristically the Forsaken have showed themselves to be the "we are willing to literally use any power/resource possible to get to our end goal". Hell, then being the only race with a demon ally in Varimathras is a demonstration of this facet.

Other than this, it's interesting to note that all major lore characters that are locks are evil. The good guy warlocks are no name class trainers/quest givers.
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>>172746549
Alliance dominate pve
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this Melori guy is one special kind of autist, even for 4chan standards
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>>172731069

denial fag

this server is trash and broken

crestfall may not be perfect but it will be scripted better, have chink restrictions, less gold seller spam cancer, etc
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>>172747381
yeah, easily the most autistic dude in the guild

nobody even notices either
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>>172747585
>nobody even notices either

stop using sarcasm in text form
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they are moving servers to russia
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>>172747381
>>172747585
what do you expect from someone doing this
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>>172747856
uhhh kas was just AFK without the <AFK> sign and automute was pranking her!!
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>>172748017
>her
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>>172748017
>takes part in picture mocking it
>does the same with Automute

what did Madti mean by this?
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>>172748373
>>172747856
Olivia = Automute right? how the fuck does he pull that off? he sounds like such a fucking nerd on voice
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>>172748710
>pay gold
>get some reluctant erp
>feel better about yourself
>remain shit at the game
that's how autoshit operates. don't question his life choices.
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>>172748858
how much did he pay? I offered Madti gold for something similar a few weeks ago and just got a simple "lol" in return
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>tfw only add tankbulls to my friends list (am healslut)
>tfw befriend them over time
>tfw guilt trip them into running dungeons for me
Who here /devilish/?
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>>172747429
All this fucking drama this vanilla scene makes holy shit. I still feel sorry for Kronos. They set up a second server just for you, fags, and then you left them behind with two dead servers.

Seriously. No server is perfect. I've never seen a bugless private server, despite the fact that all stated that they provide the closest experience to vanilla retail.

Sometimes I think I'll just go back to Feenix. Do they still have the bonus XP or are they on the 1x rate now?
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I played vanilla/TBC on retail and am having a hard time wrapping my mind around why I have any interest in emulating this experience on private servers(every p server i have played on has been a wash, up to and including elyisum)

What keeps you guys coming back? My modern standards the game has become incredibly tedious and dimwitted, on retail it was amazing but today? It just doesn't hold up to anything contemporary.

Yet still I have a desire to play and shit around in the barrens and capitol cities.

also x'th for crestfall when
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>>172749316
>Sometimes I think I'll just go back to Feenix

I think feenix is dead.

90% sure.

>>172749480
I guess I just wanna hit 60, although I know it's gonna be boring. So I do a quest or two, end up getting half a bar of exp and then give up for a day. Then think "it's not so bad" and spend half an hour getting another bar and so on.
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>>172749480
The social part is the only real draw of vanilla and TBC

Other than that it's inferior to Cata
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>>172750303
>Cata
>
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an actual fuccboi
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>>172750553
Cata was the best xpac outside of the shitshow that was dragon soul
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https://elysium-project.org/news/moving-servers-nk
What the fuck.
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>>172752071
>shit dungeons
>shit raids
>shit class changes
>shit design
ok.
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How do I know when it's the right time to ask him on an ingame date?
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>>172752286
You'll feel the tension between you.

Who's the one you little love bird?
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>>172752071
Heroics were the SHIT ... for the first month. Then they got nerfed and everyone got OP gear.
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>>172752221
>>shit dungeons
Is this bait, cata by far had the best dungeons since they were actually challenging with mechanics and diffuculty

>shit raids
Only DS was bad the others were top tier

>shit class changes
Maybe if you have downs or were a huntard which are the same thing

>shit design
Objectively false
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>dat april fools tho
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>>172752470
Yes, they were challenging for a patch.
And that was all they had going for them, because every single Cata dungeon is a fucking shitshow.

>BRD
>Bastion
>Shitlands
>Not garbage raids
L M A O

Every single fucking class was raped by garbage design choices. None was spared.

>Cata didn't have shit design
Sure, let me look at the gear, zone and quest design. Oh wow, they're all fucking garbage. WHO KNEW.
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>>172749480
To me, it's a bunch of reasons. It's free. It's more bug free than the majority of servers. At least as a warrior it's fun to have to utilize everything in my book (mining for money for gear, engineering for emergency oh shit items, secondary professions for heals and food buffs) to be able to survive. As a WC fan from way back, vanilla outside a couple things like player warlocks and just two factions stays the most consistent with older better written lore. As a result it's better for RPing than retail just about everything in universe except a murderhobo or a Pokemon trainer. I also appreciate how as a result of all this you're more of an adventurer in Vanilla who has to almost survive in a fashion similar to a game like STALKER where it's fighting for/gathering resources.

Retail is the better game based on the definition of gameplay and mechanics, but Vanilla is the better role playing game with what's lore consistent, and the preparation/survival focused gameplay based far more on numbers than player skill.
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>>172752491
What april fools?
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Warrior or Paladin for Elysium pvp? I tried Warrior for like 20 levels on old Nost and I hated how frail I was.
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>>172752368
I don't want to say it here... people may find out who I am!
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>>172752857

https://elysium-project.org/news/moving-servers-nk

did an announcement in the server
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>>172752071
>>172752221
I don't know, guys. For me, the reasones why I despise this game up from Cata is phasing and the change of narrative.

I loved how the game was actual open world 24/7. You could go anywhere and you could meet anyone at anytime. Now if you are not at the same part of a quest as the rest, you are isolated in your own little world.

I love how humble the original game is. You are a traveler and help however you can those in need. Help a small town which does not get the military resources from the capital to fight back the undead, or try to get an ancient tome from a long forgotten dungeon to some shady warlock. Now in every god damned zone you are the freaking embodiment of the long awaited savior of the world. I mean, yeah, it's cool to save the shore from a tornado on the side of Malfurion. Yeah, it's pretty awesome to ride alongside the Banshee Queen. But man, it's just stupid, tiring after a while, and, well, without better words: very American.

All in all, with Cata (and with WoTLK, but it was Cata which spread the disease to the whole game), WoW had become a single player game with optional CO-OP.

People always talk about dungeons and raids, so the end game in general, but forget about the fact that the game lost its very essence, and some well optimized dungeons won't help and save the 110 levels before that.
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>>172753028
pally is easier to level but you're relegated to healing in pve. same goes for pvp unless you arent looking to rank up as no premade will take a paladin that isnt holy. if healing sounds fun to you then go for it. warriors are a slog to level but have a lot more options endgame
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>>172753263
Leveling is for dumb faggots who haven't done it for the xth time, keep rerolling on those dumb TBC servers
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>>172752839
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>>172753342
What if I get the same amount of enjoyment out of a simple quest done by 5 men in the open world the same way as I enjoy clearing a dungeon with a raid?

If leveling such a pain in the ass, why don't they just release a bunch of dungeons? You could have a nice waiting screen like in any Moba, and when the game finds you a group, you could start right where the fun is. But oh wait, it's supposed to be a fucking open world MMO RPG which requires, you know, a world to run around and explore, chance to meet with others, and options to role play. If you don't appreciate these factors of vanilla WoW, I don't understand why you are even here.
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>>172752823
>challenging for a patch
Even post-nerf Cata raids were more mechanically challenging than anything in Vanilla. Keep in mind it's the anti Cata Vanilla/TBC/Wrath dick riders like you who bitched for nerfs.

>Tier 11
>shit raids
Most avid raiders have always claimed tier 11 to be one of their favorite. It's where the best of old and new intersect with older style gear prep combined with newer focus on skill testing mechanics.

>gear
Not sure how this is bad. Cata had an earned take towards gear with reforging expanding gear in the most interesting way.

>zone
Made an entire underwater zone viable. Combined titans/old gods with Egyptian stuff and Indiana jones in another one. Had equal amounts of love given to alliance v horde and the twilight story in Twilight Highlands. Easily farmable/least tedious dailies next to a quick fun raid to make gear prep not fucking retarded.

>questing
You're really talking out of your ass if you thinking disjointed quests, shitty repetitive quests, and not even having enough quests per zone is somehow better than quests that actually fully tell the story of a zone, actually make a difference, give better rewards, and are just more variable in tasks. Yeah...get off your nostalgia high horse.

Also worth saying that it's the first expansion that really pushed for individual mechanics unique to each class, and had a far better balanced PvP than vanilla/tbc/wrath.
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>>172753890
WoW has never been a real RPG that's reserved for god's game Ultima
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>>172754267
Please, elaborate, I honestly would like to know more.
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>>172753890
Leveling exists more as a way to introduce mechanics and have a fun gameplay based experience than what it was in vanilla. Granted one can say that post-Cata's take on it isn't very MMO-like (though honestly, you're soloing non-elite quests in Vanilla as well unless you're a warrior), but the mechanics and story told comes out to be far better. It's like I said in a post above, retail's been the better game, Vanilla the better role playing game. Play both, each for different reasons.
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>>172754187
>Most avid raiders
[citation needed]
BWD is a garbage shithole.
Bastion of Twilight is a horrible mess too.
Firelands is a fucking meme raid.

>Combined titans/old gods with Egyptian stuff and Indiana jones in another one.
And it's shit. What a surprise!
>Had equal amounts of love given to alliance v horde and the twilight story in Twilight Highlands
You mean BOTH sides got an equal helping of shit?
> Easily farmable/least tedious dailies next to a quick fun raid to make gear prep not fucking retarded.
What fun raid? No such thing existed in Cata.

>first expansion that really pushed for individual mechanics unique to each class
And caused all of them to play like shit. See: Warlock, Death Knight, Paladin among others.

>had a far better balanced PvP than vanilla/tbc/wrath.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRyual8MNtc
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>>172754187
Cata dungeons had shit design and themes.
Cata raids were boring as fuck.
Cata gear looks like shit, which is why they made Transmogs available during Cata.
Cata zones except for one or two notable exceptions are absolute garbage.
Cata quests are boring and less interesting than gathering 20 bear asses.
Individual class mechanics introduced in Cata sucked all the fun out of most specs.

Cata is a shit expansion designed by Blizzard's C Team with the help of several mexican interns.
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>>172754420
I think he's trying to say that people who enjoy the more sandbox free form MMO elements of earlier WoW are kinda hypocritical in that games like UO and SWG expand far more on that style of gameplay than any iteration of WoW ever did. So it's a "sure thing modern WoW doesn't play like what people think of when they think muh MMO, but at least it's the best at what it does, Vanilla isn't good at anything" kind of mentality. A bit reductionist since I personally like Vanilla's middleground on MMOs, but an understandable perspective.
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>>172754882
>hyperbole
Dude at least talk about specific mechanics. Until then you are essentially talking out your ass. All you did was waste all this text and say "it's shit." In fact your post could've been the two words "it's shit". All you do is show how little you know what you're talking about.

>m-muh wheel mage
>implying vanilla wasn't 100000x worse at launch
>implying Blizzard didn't start fixing this stuff immediately

>Warlock
They made destruction as interesting as the other two trees. What's wrong with that?

>DK
Gave talents focus so they wouldn't be in a constant flux of being either over or underpowered.

>Paladins
Not stupidly OP like Wrath. Not stupidly UP minus one build like in Vanilla/TBC.
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>>172755616
What is there to even talk about? Every single encounter in Cata raids is either boring or just plain out annoying.
Literally doesn't matter how well the classes performed too, because they all suddenly started playing like shit. I bet you're one of those imbeciles who think retail Warlock is fine because it can do competitive dps.
All design in cata, from quests through classes to raids just reeks of cheap knockoff. Shit expansion made by the shittiest devs Blizzard had on hand.
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>>172755026
>shit
>boring
No substance in your argument. Just possible but not real anecdotes. Although it's not surprising that most elaboration is being done by those that like Cata since they probably actually played the damn thing.

Also, actively solving a murder mystery is 10000x more fun than collecting bear asses. So is going through large ancient builds with traps and crazy shit while you unearth artifacts.

I would also argue that having classes move to the more free form superior priority system is far better than the restrictive rotation system, especially since older rotations had less skills as well.
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>only 1 hour left until I can watch MoH die to trash ass pulls with DM buffs live on stream again
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>>172756109
Sadly, no. Bear asses still trump whatever the hacks Blizzard hired for Cata quests managed to churn out.
The only expansion that was so far worse than Cata is WoD. Let that sink in.
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>>172755821
>boring
>shit
>what is there to talk about?
Confirmed for not having played Cata.

>Locks good cuz competitive DPS
nope. Look at the Destro dos priority compared to Vanilla/TBC/Wrath rotation. More skills/procs to look out for. Just a more engaging class to play. I really don't get how having more viable balanced specs with classes that play more differently with priorities/mechanics that are objectively more intricate (even Cata's basic bitch Arcane Mage is more interesting that spamming just shadow bolt or frost bolt) makes for bad class design.
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>>172755821
>Every single encounter in Cata raids is either boring

More interesting than any encounter in vanilla
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>>172756456
Wow, a shiny button to press! That's the experience I was waiting for!
If you want engaging and actually GOOD destro gameplay, play MoP.
Even fucking Wrath firespitter turret mode is better than Cata super-intriguing priorities.
Also, there's a general called /wpsg/ where you can shill your shit expansion.
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>>172756435
Okay, if you genuinely think brain dead gameplay is more interesting than gameplay that has more variety and mechanics with a more cohesive story where choices actually matter, not to mention the stuff has higher visual fidelity as well, that's more power to you.
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>>172756642
>Cata
>cohesive story
Can you just stop posting.
>muh grafix
Really, please just stop posting.
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>>172756435
Objective Xpac ratings:

1. MoP
2. WotLK
3. Cata
4. TBC
5. WoD
.
.
.
9001. Legion
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>>172756840
>Cata
>#3
lmao.
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>>172756875
It wasn't great but it wasn't shit, I'd rather play that than TBC or WoD
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>>172756840
The only xpack worse than Cata is WoD and so far Legion.
Catababbies need not apply.
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>>172756840
He's the real list

>TBC
>VANILLA
>WOTLK
- POWER GAP
>LEGION
>MOP
>CATA
>WOD
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>>172757183
t. babby raider
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>getting a bag as a random drop while leveling
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>>172757183
MoP was unironically better than Legion, even though it has >pandas and a lot of choices I don't agree with.
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>>172751268
where did u get that picture of me
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>>172756840
Actual Xpac ratings:

1 TBC
2 WotLK
3 Cata
4 WoD
9001 MoP
9002 Legion
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>>172746125
>Nah. They don't look as good in armor in general.
subjective
>implies there's ever skill involved in pugs especially when possibility of being outnumbered
there is, horde don't win pugs consistently by coincidence
>don't just resort to practicing against each other or something if this was true
doesn't give honor
>They do. Another big part of hamlets being dominantly horde is the fact that alliance does eventually help their people more often.
see: redridge mountains for proof otherwise
>having people help each other and be nice to each other and be fair with loot in an MMO is a bad thing
I didn't state that they were nice, cause they aren't, they just roll retris and smite people "for the alliance!". and lol >fair loot distribution (see: MoH)
>Nope. Pally has better utility for raids as well as pvp.
t. has never played past BWL or rank 6
>Retail's "hard" is far more skill based due to more complex mechanics.
doesn't matter when roles & classes are dumbed down. tanks never lose threat, all healers can aoe, all dps have a "get out of trouble" button
I also like how you're implying there's skill in fucking pve to begin with, but then again alliance players do tend to struggle with that kind of stuff
>Westfall and Duskshore are widely considered among the best zones in the older days where there's a larger presence of just on faction. Barrens has the meme chat, but that's it.
who would ever consider westfall a good zone? you're still not trying on this point
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>>172757327
Why do you think this friend?
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>>172752136
>https://elysium-project.org/news/moving-servers-nk

>nk

well there goes my good latency
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>>172757183

>ACTUAL MMORPG TIER
>Vanilla

>RAIDLOGSIMULATOR TIER:
>TBC/WRATH/MoP
-Power gap
>WoD/CATA/LEGION.
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>>172757401
??? That's me though...
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>>172756595
>shiny button to press
Oh, so you only made it to level 15 before quitting if this is your argument.

>MoP DPS destro
Has less things to keep track of and doesn't take as much advantage of the Warlock class whereas the Cata build is equal parts DD and DoTs making for a more complex and engaging priority.

>/wpsg/
Bruh, like I said before I personally like both retail and Vanilla because they both have different but good experiences attached to them. You're the one that started autistically sperging out about muh Cata.

>>172756714
>stop posting
Cataclysm doesn't do character assassinations like TBC/Wrath. Not to mention better quest zone stories for example Westfall's murder mystery is a lot more fun and its quest ties the zone up together much better than bruh make some food, bruh make some booze, bruh kill defias, bruh I am ghost. Even the newer version of the food quest in Westfall plays a bigger part in world building for newer westfall and has an element very important to its plot. In Stonetalon you become a military espionage guy whose rank constantly goes higher with a rank counter, and an ending involving Garrosh that really helped make the character look more complex before his character assassination in MoP.

Also I was talking less graphics but more visual style. The event itself plus the variety in quests became an excuse to see much prettier and cooler stuff in general.

>>172756840
1. Legion=Vanilla
2. Cata
3. MoP
4. TBC
5. WoD
6. Wrath

For iterations so vanilla included.
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>>172757257
>not sending your twink 4 travelers
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>>172757454
>>>RAIDLOGSIMULATOR TIER:

Funny that you use that as an argument against something when the biggest cause of these shitty private vanilla servers dying is raidlogging since there's nothing to do outside of MC and Oxy
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>>172757587
But it's my first character!
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>>172757454
>TBC/Wrath's faceroll raids
>great for raids at all
Fucking casual
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>>172757574
>1. Legion=Vanilla
>2. Cata
>3. MoP
>4. TBC
>5. WoD
>6. Wrath

What the actual fuck?
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>>172757674
>not being 60 yet
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>>172757776
Puddi...
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>>172757776
I wish, I'm just not good enough, obviously. Damned leper gnomes.
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>>172757703
Post your heroic ICC achievement
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>>172757491
prove it
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>>172757327
>>172757438
>Story actually tried to be good instead of "le catchphrase" Characters were likeable!
>The world had character and was a huge step up from the blandness of Cata.
>PvP wasn't pruned.
>Throne of Thunder was consistently great, both the zone and the raid

Post-Cata WoW has always been shit, but MoP was the first and only time where the expansion were less shit than the one before and after.
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>>172668156
Why the fuck is Gromsblood selling for 44g a stack.

Is this on Ana or what?
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>>172755030
I wanted to hear more about why Ultima is a better role playing game, since I've never played it, but if it's really that good, I would give it a try.

>>172754608
I agree with you and with everything you've said in your earlier post.

I think this lack of communicating the mechanics and some aspects of the game (like vanilla never explains the concept of dungeons or raids to you, but this goes for rare mobs and items, long ass world travelling quest chains, quests hidden in the corners of the world etc.) just adds some fine mystery to it, which keeps the game interesting for me even after all these years, so I think this shortcoming is beneficial for vanilla WoW.
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>>172757919
yeah okay you have me throne of thunder was great.
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>>172757908
Can (You) prove the opposite?
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Duel?
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>>172757808
Im not that disgusting neckbeard larping as a tranny you dumb nigger.

>>172757857
whats your ingame name so i can help(gank) you?
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MERGE WHEN

I CAN WAIT NO LONGER
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>start playing WoW for the first time in Kronos 2
>it takes me almost a month to get to lvl 17 as a hunter
>start playing Elysium
>get to lvl 17 in two days as a rogue

I guess I understand all of those stories about people not being able to reach lvl 60 back in vanilla, boy I was retarded on k2.
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>>172758619
Duel?
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>play Elysium
>cant decide between alliance or horde
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>>172760002
Do you want to corpserun the way to every dungeon 5 times? Then go alliance
If not, go Horde.
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>>172759130
>>it takes me almost a month to get to lvl 17
how
did you only play during the weekends or something
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>>172760238
Not him, but I remember back on vanilla I was stuck around 20 for weeks. I kept doing deadmines for the blackened defias set (I was a hunter, didnt even know it was shit), I went to pvp, I explored, did professions.

That was the original experience.
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>Hunter asks for kings on his pet
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>>172760238
-I didnt have a quest addon so I spent forever running around
-I didnt know about picking everything up to sell so I never had money for anything
-once I finally got to lvl 10 i didnt know about beast training so my pet didnt have a taunt
-darkshore was too strong for me but I stayed there because I didnt know about westfall being way easier and I didnt know how to get there
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>>172760884
>give wisdom instead
>>
who is excited for this weeks gquit?
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>>172757419
>subjective
>thinks hunched over idiots and furfgs can ever be good

>don't win pugs by coincidence
I conceded this. This should be happening as there are more Horde than Ally.

>doesn't give honor
Go do Wpvp at high level areas then.

>redridge
Was lvling there last night. Horde ganked, in a few minutes the high lvl Allys showed up and wrecked.

>just roll Ret and smite
Nah. A surprising amount of pallys are already in cloth at low level and understanding of their healing roles.

>never played past
>thinks that makes a difference for utilities
Lmao this faux elitism. You have no clue what Pallys offer if you think this makes a difference.

>roles/classes dumbed down
HAHAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you telling me that spamming frost bolt/shadowbolt over is compared to the intricate fire Mage priority that's there right now? You think tank n spank tanking has anything on retail's zig zag charging? Spoken like a person who never played Retail, or never played Vanilla and heard the stories from vocal cancer.

>implying there is skill in pve to begin with
So you really haven't done post Cata pve at all. If you are even implying that WoW's pvp is skill based and balanced at you're even more delusional than I thought.

>would you ever consider west fall a good zone?
Yeah. Why not? Great atmosphere. Can Cleef's story is interesting.
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>>172746307
where in my post did i make any statements like that

where
>>
>character currently in durotar
>tab out
>eyes raped from the red to blue transition

WHY IS IT SO RED
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>>172757720
Only reason Cata isn't first is Dragon Soul and Wrath babies complaining for nerfs which happened.

Retail and vanilla are both good in their own way.

MoP is pretty good, though watered down some class mechanics. Also fuck Blizzard for messing up Garrosh.

Legion is releasing quality content at a fast as hell rate.

WoD has good quality raids, but that's it.

TBC is the worst lore butchering of WoW lore ever while also not having vanilla's charm and feeling like a watered down take on future expansions.

Wrath is casual trash. Fuck the easy pve. Fuck the shit balance pvp. Fuck the lore. Fuck basically everything that's not Storm Peaks/Ulduar.
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>>172757919
>thinks straightforward evil Garrosh is more interesting than Cata grey area more complex Garrosh
Kys
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>>172762049
Not him, but the one thing that ruined retail for me was LFR.
LFG was bad, but still "fine".
The reason I raided was because I wanted to see more of the raids/know how the lore progresses in them. Being given that without raiding just took all my will to play.
>>
wheres the janny, the animefaggot needs to take a break from posting
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>>172762708
LFR is shit I agree but I don't see how it took away your will to play the game, if you never do LFR then you dont have to deal with the garbage players in it. Legion is like the first time I've actually been forced to play LFR since it has a change for legendaries plus augment runes
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>want to get t1 rogue gloves
>nobody else seems to want them
>ask if i could take them
>cl asks the raid leader to just give them to his girlfriend
>tfw no t1 gloves
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>>172763020
>raiding in a guild where girlfriends are allowed in, let alone the gfs of officers
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>>172762985
The problem isn't the players. The problem is taking my goal in playing the game and putting it before the work to get there.
I had no incentive to raid since I could just get everything in easy mode.
Don't get me wrong, if it was free I'd probably still be doing LFR every new patch to see the story, but it's just not worth the money if the integral part (the game) is just a stick without a carrot.
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>>172761085
Anon, was it really your first time to WoW in general? You'll always remember these precious virgin moments.

>I didnt have a quest addon so I spent forever running around
I never understood this. The quests always tell you where to go, just read them.
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>>172758907
Name's Cortah, feel free to do either of those things!
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>>172762708
With raids getting increasingly more complex, and a gap forming between casual and hardcore, lore and loot, etc. I can see why it happened.
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>>172763235
You mean
>raiding in a guild with a loot council
I'll leave this shitty guild as soon as I hit 60. Gotta say though it's interesting to watch how people take clique dick in their ass and thank them for it.
>>172763413
How does that make it any better?
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>>172763615
why are you doing MC before 60

why are they letting in non-60s into their MC
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>>172763274
Yeah it was, I still remember waiting forever for the emerald necklace thing in the NE starting area that's in the chest to spawn then someone came along at the perfect time and cucked me

I'm still mad
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>>172763276
What faction?
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>Survives Baron-asspull
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Alliance, only just hit 10
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when will elysium pull its shit together? i don't want all these "people" to taint my crestfall utopia
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>>172764686
meant for >>172764080
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>>172764820
Wanna meet up somewhere?
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>>172764760
Redpill me on Crestfall, please. Tell me why it will be any different than Nost or Kronos or anything we've seen so far.
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>>172764906
Don't wanna inconvenience you or anything, think I'm okay right now.
>>
Gonna need a quick rundown on warrior leveling (is it really hard?) and their options for farming gold at 60 (where and how is it done?)
>>
>reaching the level where 60s farm your quest mobs for gold
zzzzzzzz
>>
Allys are literally less human than niggers
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>>172765374
Its no inconvenience :)
>>
>MoH wiping on trash AGAIN

HAHAAHAHLOLOL
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>>172765458
It's not hard any harder than the other classes, Just avoid orange-level mobs.

And there are basically no options for farming gold at 60 besides running deadmines for wool cloth.
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>>172766828
The best fury warrior in my guild farmed SFK for money
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>>172727181
>>172730835
>>172731089
>>172746125
thanks guys just read your comments after coming back from work, looks like locks are the bee's knees
I'll be starting one then
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>>172765290
here http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/25-frequently-asked-questions/#comment-97
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fucking sheeple need to wake up
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>>172765290
It wont come out.
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>>172764059
If it makes you feel any better, the first time I played WoW was my first game which was anything more complex than the usual shooters of that time and platformers. So first I didn't cared much about spells and abilities and taking all the quests, which means I pretty much just auto attacked everything to death up to level 5-6, when the server I was playing on (one with patch 1.8) got a hard reset and every character got wiped out, which made me not to play for a while. I also remembered the cool dwarf from the intro, so I wanted to get a gun for the warrior as fast as possible so I could shoot things.
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>>172768273
What did they mean by this?
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>Zeth'Kur peaked 1.3k on a Saturday

Whats their endgame?
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>>172769178
looks like the work of a powerful mage
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>>172769275
>we don't know how to merge servers so lets put it off for as long as possibl
>>
>>172769178
How do you do this?
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>>172769656
Say "it's free" in world chat
>>
>hearth
>game closes when I finish casting
>reopen game
>I'm still in the middle of nowhere and my hearthstone is on CD now

tenouttaten
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>>172766828
Don't listen to this guy. Unless you enjoy challenge and don't mind constantly getting memed on while leveling, don't level a warrior. It's definitely much harder than any other class.
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Ok namefagging here

Alright lads its been fun. but i cant play this game anymore. Memes were had and i enjoyed every minute of playing with you all.

I got to level 60, downed rag, downed onyxia... and i shared all those experiences with the majority of you who i played with on zethkur


Pls don’t worry I didn’t anhero I just need a serious gaymer break and actually get on with my life

I hope you all stay safe and everything in ur lives turn out for the best……Seeya crestfall.... :^)

Shout out to the Pupper Palsâ„¢ and all the memers

Annoying
Indi
Arizontears
Diaperslurp
Cocoachan
Jeremycorbyn
Tribbing
Churchgirl
Jdub
Pendragon
Melekatus
Fireprayer
if I forgot you ur either gay or faggot (Jk ur all cute)
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>>172769656
stand close to an invis GM
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>>172769178

sekret
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>>172666921
Druids attacks don't scale off weapon damage in vanilla. Literally the only thing that will increase your dps is str. AP>str>agi
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>>172770062
>walk back to where I needed to go
>realize there are no fucking NPCs around
>can still target the NPCs near where I tried to hearth from
>think my game bugged out and relog
>now I'm at the inn I tried to hearth to

what the fuck, did I misalign my QPUs?
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>it's another MoH MC episode
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>>172767794
I'm sorry, anon, but it's literally Nost 2.0.
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>>172771201
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I WANT B(eautiful) ELVES REEEEEE
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>>172770425
Toss your character pls
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>>172771648
>showing helmet on an elf
lmao
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>>172770425
rip baby
never forget the first day we ERPed
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>>172771653
Nope make ur own rogue :^)
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>>172770425
did you leave discord too?
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>>172770425
so sad rn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOy1esPEc08
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>>172771239
>We run off a new emulator purpose-designed for multiple expansions

For one. Nosts core did not support a feature like this, they had to code everything from scratch for TBC. The CF Jadefire core will be compatible with every expansion, it's also Ascent based and not Mangos unlike Nost

Boss mechanics will be tweaked, randomized node spawns, etc. Honestly theres a Q&A vid on youtube for more clarification
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>>172771967
Ya I need a reinvite desu
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>>172772260
https://discord.gg/8DDwx6X
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>>172772065
I would be sad with that music taste
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>>172771648
>like belves
>like their lore
>like their animations and sounds
>like their class options
>like their cities and towns
>they're literal aids plaguing the Horde and always dominate like 80% of the faction
>I don't want to be part of the problem so I roll a tauren like I always do

giving the horde a prettyboi race was and always will be a mistake
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Brainlet here

How do I make omnicc display times over 60 seconds correctly?
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>>172772523
Getting a different version.
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is a good deal or no?
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>>172772636
Which one?
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>>172772670
I would say no
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>>172772670
Freezing band was on AH yesterday for over 1k bid with no buyout

> my face when
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>>172772706
I was going to post a link, but then I couldn't. So figure it out by yourself.
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>>172772236
That's all nice, anon, but do you know what I really hear?

>muh one of a kind features which no other server has provided so far
>durr we will never get sued because of reasons
>hurr we want to release a bugless experience

and so on. I've read stuff like this countless times.

The things you've mentioned are nice. From a technical perspective. If I would work with the team, my cock would certainly be throbbing from excitement to work on stuff like this. However as a player, I only care about if my quests and spells are working correctly or not. I've seen bugs on Nost, I've seen bugs on Kronos, I've seen bugs on Elysium.

The other thing with the altered MC and Ony experience just doesn't make me interested. If anything, it makes me even less interested. I like their effort to fix bugs Blizz didn't fix, and improve some stuff which Blizz only halfheartedly did, but in all honesty, I don't want to play with someone's interpretation on vanilla WoW. I would like to play with something as close to it as possible. No more, no less.
>>
Can someone please spoonfeed me a guide for warlock PvP progression on Elysium?
i've been winning some bgs and I'm not sure if I should be turning the marks I win into honor, or rep, even tho I know rep rewards aren't available yet, maybe it could be worth saving them?
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>>172773029
Is that a yes or a no?
>>
Tauren or dwarf arms warrior?
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>>172772503
Should've given Pandaren or goblin to Horde and Blood Elves to Alliance.
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>>172773291
Human
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>>172773360
No thanks

>>172773347
Blood elves and night elves would never ally with each other lmao
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>>172773112
What site is the link from?
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>>172773347
Blood elves despise the Alliance for them not helping when the undead attacked them
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>>172773614
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>>172773614
this site:

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removes spaces etc
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>>172773772
>>172773787
Thank you
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>>172773769
>>172773593
Seems like from a lore's perspective there's no reason for Belves to not be on Horde other than "muh anime-free club".
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>>172773347
I probably say this at every opportunity, but I think the new Draenei lore is more interesting than the old lore so I don't care about the retcon.

Horde should have just gotten Ogres.
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>>172773593
>Blood elves and night elves would never ally with each other lmao
>saying this after the Highborne are allowed among Night Elves again

>>172773769
No. The Alliance hates the Blood Elves because of Kael's whole "siphon magic" thing, that's why they went to Horde. They were initially trying to get in with the Alliance. Yes, this whole thing doesn't make any sense considering that Alliance allows Warlocks who use the same techniques they hate the Blood Elves for. Welcome to the clusterfuck of TBC lore.
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>>172774015
Making Draenei into a super high fantasy to the extent they are hitting sci fi hasn't done the setting all that much. It's part of why they are just kinda put to the side. Not to mention the additional inconsistencies that come with Draenor and Argus when it comes to Draenei as a result of the new lore.
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>tfw nagas will never be playable since WoW is still bound by it's archaic 2 party political system
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>>172774164
I feel like the blood elves took Warlock techniques to the Nth degree though

Summoning a fucking imp is different than getting a varimathras tier dude to serve you

Plus gnomes will be gnomes, guaranteed it would make an elf more upset to see an elf Warlock than a Warlock of any other race
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>>172771201
DELET THIS
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Alright I have been having fun with my Warrior so far. And honestly I have had tanking experience from retail as well. But I think I am done tanking. I haven't touched WoW at all since those days when I depression hit my hard in life and I reached rock bottom. Nowadays I am doing much better, but some of those thoughts are still with me. Ex. I had a debate thing I was losing sleep over in one of my college classes, stressing way too hard although on the day when it happened, I ended up doing well enough to get extra credit from it for being able to do that well. Same thing with tanking where the pressure associated with it fucks with me hard personally even though I do fine in dungeons.

What else is in demand outside of tanking? Anything else except rogue and obviously tanking really I am down for.
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http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/RaidOverview.aspx?Raid=66875

101 MINUTES

WE ARE GETTING THAT 1 HOUR MC SOON
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>>172774683
>Player deaths(total 56)

still shit
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>>172774390
But the elves were using the warlock style magic just to try to figure a way out of their affliction based on magic addiction. It wasn't something super creepy like Undead or what Orcs used to do back in the day. How would that not be understandable since Elves were Alliance for so many years? Keep in mind that Kael's betrayal, Illidan using some shady shit like keeping Magtheridon in a caged lab thing, all this Outland shenanigans aren't tied to the Blood Elves faction and are all revelations after the fact that Alliance refused to ally with Blood Elves. If anything, one would think Alliance would be more sympathetic to the Blood Elves considering what happened to Stormwind in Warcraft 1 and what happened to Lordaeron in Warcraft 3.
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>>172775003
Because they ran into Lordaeron humans who went all FUCK YOU KNIFE EARS and decided that Alliance doesn't want them anymore.
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>>172774816
TOP10
O
P
1
0
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>>172775139
Why are humans so nigger tier?

What's wrong with the alliance
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>>172769178
>>172770607
Seriously how do you do this? Get poly'd in a duel and /forfeit?
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>>172662542
How Long does it take to get the activation email when I'm registering? I've been waiting at least 10 minutes wtf
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>>172775329
They were blinded by hubris
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>>172775329
Funnily enough, it was just one faggot from Lordaeron, also known as Forsaken right now.
Better ask Kael why did he throw a bitch fit right there and then instead of trying to contact someone in power he knew, ie. Jaina.
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>>172775139
Garithos was never a voice for the rest of the Alliance though. Alliance refusing the Blood Elves happened after Warcraft 3 but before TBC takes place. Like, again, in a way it does make sense using just WC3 lore. Frozen Throne instruction manual talks of the Blood Mage hero unit and how Alliance is getting suspicious because of their use of "warlock magic". And of course Garithos' reaction to Kael. But come WoW, not only are some of those "warlock" moves also shared with mages, but Alliance willingly uses Warlocks who are nowhere near as ethical about that kind of magic as Blood Elves are (there's a reason not every Blood Elf isn't a warlock, but then can all use the Arcane torrent ability.)
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>>172775654
Yes, but where is Kael contacting what remains of the Kirin Tor to explain wtf happened? He was quite a big player there, they'd listen. Jaina definitely would back then for example.
And there's zero information on his talks with the actual Alliance and not Lordaeron shitters.
It just doesn't hold up no matter how you look at it.
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QUESTION:

MoH guildbank has hundreds (possibly thousands) of gold injected into it weekly from raids and dungeons.

Where does all the gold go?
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Since we're talking about tbc right now, is there ever a real reason to roll alliance in TBC? Horde has better racials, has paladin now, and has blood elves for the ERPers ITT. The scale was so broken to horde back then
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>>172775917
>not hoarding everything for a post-merge economy
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>>172775951
No, that's why TBC private servers always have fucking horrible faction balance.
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>>172775448
>>172775448
>>172775448
>>172775448
>>172775448
someone respond pls
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>>172776030
This is the number one reason why I don't want the merge. This fucking stupid that some people get rewarded for picking the dying server.
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>>172775841
>Yes, but where is Kael contacting what remains of the Kirin Tor to explain wtf happened? He was quite a big player there, they'd listen.
You think the Elves had any way of being able to contact anyone after having almost all their resources destroyed? When it comes to this whole contact/communication thing AFTER Warcraft 3 things get into an even bigger clusterfuck because of Blood Elves' reasoning for allying with a faction being communication with Outland Blood Elves, but apparently they already had some, retcons and inconsistencies abound. Anyway, Kirin Tor got fucked over by the Scourge + Archimonde destroying Dalaran as well. The remnants, like the Kassan dude from Frozen Throne's campaign, actually help Kael escape imprisonment after Garithos put them in prison.

>actual Alliance and not Lordaeron shitters
Communication problems from above aside, back in Warcraft 3 Lordaeron shitters were ALL that's left of the actual alliance. Stormwind was still recovering from Warcraft 1. Most of the others like Gilneas left after Warcraft 2.
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>>172775448
They sent it right away for me idk what's up with you senpai.
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>>172776320
They seem pretty smart to me!
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>>172776320
There's no way they aren't merging without cleaning devilsaur leather out of people's inventories.
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>>172776720
Kael'thas is a mage. Are Kirin Tor mages seriously unable to talk long distance? Several Archmages and members of the Kirin Tor survived, too.

Stormwind and Ironforge were still in, and Elves knew that Lordaeron got btfo.
Also Lordaeron Alliance was a bit different to current Stormwind Alliance.
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>>172776957
>mafia cucks think this

lmao
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>>172777147
>he thinks meme mafia doesn't have enough resources to just buy it all and set their own prices again
ok.
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>>172777221
Thats the plan moron, you cucks buying all our of shit post-merge
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>>172776984
>Kael'thas is a mage. Are Kirin Tor mages seriously unable to talk long distance?
With what resources? It doesn't just POOF! happen. It never has. Both Kael + his people and the Kirin Tor were in survival low resources mode during the time of the Frozen Throne campaign. Lordaeron, Silvermoon/Elves, Kirin Tor/Dalaran, you fuck up a lot of cities in that Reign Of Chaos Undead Campaign just so you could bring Kelthuzad back to life just so he could bring Archimonde into Azeroth.
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>>172777475
>with what resources?
The same he uses to cast Flamestrike.
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>>172777475
>It doesn't just POOF! happen.
>Mages of the Kirin Tor
>Ex-Archmage of the Kirin Tor
>Dude they can't just magic up some comms lmao
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>>172761656
>thinks hunched over idiots and furfgs can ever be good
>"THINKS"
>I conceded this. This should be happening as there are more Horde than Ally.
shouldn't matter in bgs
>Nah. A surprising amount of pallys are already in cloth at low level and understanding of their healing roles.
why are they in cloth at low level, are they retarded? what are you implying here
>thinks that makes a difference for utilities
but it does since paladin utility isn't as useful in AB/AV
>9gag cancer
adding more buttons to a rotation doesn't make it harder, and good job on ignoring the relevant points I made
>o you really haven't done post Cata pve at all. If you are even implying that WoW's pvp is skill based and balanced at you're even more delusional than I thought.
never said it was balanced, but it is skill based, hence why so many people suck at it
>Yeah. Why not?
because it's more barren than the barrens
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>>172777624
>>172777879
Magic communication isn't the same as casting flamestrike though. Notice that even for example...Voljin's set up for communicating with Garrosh in Cataclysm is kinda primitive looking but requires a certain set-up. Or the new WoW trailer for the Kiljaeden raid that shows a set-up that KJ uses to communicate with Sargeras. Even in just the Warcraft games, the only entity shown to be able to communicate long distance just like that is the Lich King, and even then he's limited to his own servant.
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>>172778305
He could just port to Theramore and talk to Jaina in person if for some reason he couldn't reach her otherwise.
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is there a GM turning people into sheeps or something on zeth?
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could someone please invite Bilago to mandate?
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>>172778131
>"THINKS"
Well shit, I wouldn't wanna look like a bunch of deformed, unhealthy looking weirdos.

>shouldn't matter in bgs
It's kind of a philosophy that exists in many things. The more of something there is, the more good of that something you'll see, but the more bad of that something you'll also see as well. Considering how WoW does its PvP ranks, there should easily be more good high level Orcs in all categories. Yet it's only pug PvP.

>but it does since paladin utility isn't as useful in AB/AV
Why not? Pallies can literally make shit unkillable, so good luck covering that objective while Pally bubbles and the rest of the team fucks you up.

>adding more buttons to a rotation doesn't make it harder, and good job on ignoring the relevant points I made
I said PRIORITY not ROTATION. The earlier is the system that's been used post-Cata, the latter used by earlier games. Priorities are not as straightforward and braindead as rotations, since classes have so much more depth to their mechanics which move to use next in a chain of moves is different each rotation.

>never said it was balanced, but it is skill based, hence why so many people suck at it
Pick a caster class. Cast your CC, cast your other shit, the other player dies. Simple as that. Compare that to current WoW's PvE mechanics which require perfect coordination among multiple people for complex raid mechanics, creating some of the most mechanically complex combat in video games period (seriously Mythic Guldan can easily give Vergil 3 on DMC3's hardest difficulty a run for his money.)

>because it's more barren than the barrens
You were just trying to make an argument above that more is not better, yet you go the opposite way here lmao. Anyway Westfall is the perfect level 10-20 zone because the whole thing feels like a generic fantasy zone gone horribly wrong. The progression from Elwynn-> Westfall-> Redridge-> Duskwood gets progressively darker and more fucked up.
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>>172780041
>pre-cata priorities weren't a think
>priorities are not as straightforward and braindead as rotations

STOP
POSTING
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>>172778608
Nah he couldn't. Portals pre-WoW weren't that common/easy to create. Hell portals in WoW itself outside the ones players are allowed to make for gameplay not lore purposes aren't easy to make either. If anyone could just portal like the ones players have access to, I am pretty sure some of the more accomplished mage villains we face would be capable of more dangerous invasions. Lore wise the practice is considered dangerous and requires a lot of time a preparation.
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>>172780462
>pre-cata priorities weren't a think
So...are you confusing priorities with stat priorities, or do you really think having to press the same buttons in the same order every single time is better than having to mix it up based on procs/other mechanics? Btw just because you popped CDs pre-Cata doesn't mean it had anywhere near as open ended a priority system as post-Cata did.
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>>172780756
Paladins were using a priority system for both tanking and DPS since TBC.
Warlocks in WotLK had priorities, so did Feral Druids, Death Knights, Shamans and Moonkins, as well as some of other specs.
Warriors used prios since Vanilla.

Just stop posting already. Stop. Posting.
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Nightly reminder that salty dogs will never raid.
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>>172780998
>thinks just keeping up a couple seals then spamming the same attack counts as a priority
Lmao.

>thinks Locks just having to reapply DoTs counts as an intricate priority system
Lmao. Double lmao if you think it was anywhere near as intricate as Cataclysm's.

>Feral druid
I'll give you this. For what it's worth Cataclysm as a result of course took this to the next level, giving them by far the most complex priorities of any build. Certainly not watered down class wise in any way at all.

>thinks applying DK diseases then just pressing between two buttons counts as an intricate priority
Lmao

>Shamans
Another one I'll admit to. Also kept to the same level in later iterations but with more procs to look out for instead of being more CD focused (why a lot of these earlier ones aren't really priorities as CDs alone would make everything in all WoW a priority system.)

>thinks applying DoTs then spamming Wrath is on the level of the various procs/mechanics of post-Cata WoW
Read up Warlock above, now just lower DPS.

>Warriors
>spamming bloodthirst and raging blow is now priority
What?
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>>172782441
>I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about: the post
Just say you started playing in Cata. Or better yet, fuck off to /wpsg/.
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>meet grill
>not that attractive
>settle
>she plays wow
>decide to show her my true self
>ghosted after 3 days
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>>172782441
>raging blow
>vanilla
STOP
POSTING
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>>172782441
>paladins spamming anything pre-cata
>DK's using two buttons in wotlk
>warlocks not having priorities in wotlk
lmao did you start playing wow in mop?
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>killing a mob by itself
>stealth mob attacks 2 seconds after aggro
>mob spawns another 2 seconds after aggro
>die
>respawn
>same thing happens
>run away with ghost wolf
>"Leaving combat"
>try to heal
>lol jk warlock pet followed you
>stealth spider also attacks you
>die again
>come back
>alliance level ?? is near my body
Not a good day.
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>>172782674
>prove me wrong then.

>>172782802
Raging Blow, Heroic Strike, Whirlwind, doesn't matter. Point is you got your spam move to dump some rage. Doesn't make for an interesting system. Keeping to the original point, class mechanics post-Cataclaysm were far more complex and intricate than anything before it.
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>>172783047
Welcome to memenilla
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>>172781624
T-that´s not true!
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>>172782932
Crusader strike and judgment aren't literally spammed one after the other, but they are used back and forth. You know what I am talking about. Stop attempting to misconstrue cuz you can't stand the fact that post-Cata is actually decent in its own way.

>DK's using two buttons in wotlk
After diseases they definitely do. You use shit like Scourge strike that you spam afterward.

>warlocks not having priorities in wotlk
Calling reapplying DoTs a priority system is really dumb though.
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>>172783121
Paladins used priorities since TBC, because everything they had was on cd's. Rets had to time their judgements with swing timers too.
In WotLK Paladins shifted completely to a priority system, which you would know if you played the game back then.

Affliction and Demonology Warlocks had a faux priority system in Wrath, taking into consideration procs, boss hp and their current unbuffed stats.

DK's used priorities since the class was created for all three specs, no matter tank or dps.

Warriors use priorities depending on their rage and incoming cooldowns, and in Wrath they have quite a lot of procs too.

All of this you would know, if you didn't start playing in le Cataclysm. Now fuck off to /wpsg/.
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>>172783441
You have absolutely no fucking clue how those classes worked and what they used.
Refer to this >>172783468 or just find a private server running those expansions and check for yourself.
Here's a thread that can help you with that: >>172625128
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>>172783468
>because everything they had was on cd's
Hahahahahahahahahaahahahaha yeah you have never played later WoW in your life if you think that's all it takes to be called a priority.

>faux priority system in Wrath, taking into consideration procs, boss hp and their current unbuffed stats.
It's more of an apply debuff/DoT when needed than really proc/mechanic heavy, so not a real priority as you said.

>DK's used priorities since the class was created for all three specs, no matter tank or dps.
Reapply diseases, spam strikes.

>Warriors use priorities depending on their rage and incoming cooldowns, and in Wrath they have quite a lot of procs too.
Rage dumping doesn't equate to a full on priority system. It's just that, rage dumping.
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>>172781624
>implying Moh would have ever raided if they didn't pick up random normies
top kek
t. too intelligent to join a 4chan guild
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>>172784002
That's exactly what it takes. You either use things in such a way that you don't fuck up your cd's, or you suck dick at it. This is what a priority system is about you absolute fucking retard.

>It's more of an apply debuff/DoT when needed than really proc/mechanic heavy
Yeah, because keeping the dots rolling from the proc+potions+BL part, managing Molten Core and Eradication is not a thing. Ok.

>Reapply diseases, spam strikes.
Desync your runes, fuck up 4 cycles, be last on dps or allow your Blade Barrier to drop. Good job!

>Rage dumping doesn't equate to a full on priority system. It's just that, rage dumping.
WotLK procs didn't exist for Arms and Fury, and prioritising one cd over another while making a decision on how and when to dump your rage is not a thing. All right.

>>172625128 will help you revisit old expansions so you can personally see how the classes worked in them.
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>>172784226
nobody gets in if he can't prove he's from /vg/
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>farming quick losses in AB
#justhordethings
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>>172784782
Oh come on, it's not that bad. You guys win almost every AB vs pugs.
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>>172784954
Too bad every AB at 60 is an alliance premade.
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>>172783468
> Warriors use priorities depending on their rage and incoming cooldowns, and in Wrath they have quite a lot of procs too.
Bullshit you just ww and spam bt with heroics if you have enough gear to generate that amount of rage. Execute is useless.
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>>172785318
this

there literally are no pugs anymore
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>>172785743
Just played vs pug, 4 capped.
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>>172785743

so much for the <comfy> bromance
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>>172775425
yes :^)
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>>172785713
>spam bt
how do you spam something that has a cooldown?
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>stealthing through STV
>purposely pass close by low-level hunter
>he shoots a flare only to reveal a ?? enemy
>he starts backpedaling
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>>172786830
well played
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>>172786154
spam the button cause you have an adhd?
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>>172783614
>You have absolutely no fucking clue how those classes worked and what they used.
Cite something then. At least show how it's done or something.

You telling me DK weren't mainly just Icy Touch, the Strikes, then talent exclusive CDs?

Compare that to Legion's Frost priority, based on Runic Power, Procs, application of debuff, how much time left on CD, and a different way of going entirely when a certain move is active adding moves not even used otherwise. Although the better example is the simpler 4-5 move priority since it really puts into perspective the variety of talents that make an actual huge difference (despite their only being a fraction of the amount of talents that exist from the older days.)

>>172784365
>That's exactly what it takes. You either use things in such a way that you don't fuck up your cd's, or you suck dick at it. This is what a priority system is about you absolute fucking retard.
No, priorities is based on a variety of different class mechanics, what certain moves can achieve, how a different order can have them work differently, etc. Like the example above.

>locks
Eradication doesn't change your rotation. It just makes it faster. With or without MC, Incinerate is CD either way. That's not a real priority. The current Destro lock one, now that's some next level shit, very interesting, and with many options not just numerical (deciding which demons to insta summon for example.)

>Desync your runes, fuck up 4 cycles, be last on dps or allow your Blade Barrier to drop. Good job!
Oh cool, you reapply moves like you do battle shout from Vanilla lmao. The cycle stays the exact same barring usually one proc.

>WotLK procs didn't exist for Arms and Fury, and prioritising one cd over another while making a decision on how and when to dump your rage is not a thing. All right.
It is. But it's not the kind of situational decision making that comes into play with retail, comparatively it's much more straightforward.
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>>172752136
pretty good april's fools
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>>172787115
>You telling me DK weren't mainly just Icy Touch, the Strikes, then talent exclusive CDs?
If you were shit, yes. If you weren't, you had to factor in rune sync, diseases on target and procs. And again, you'd know this if you played in WotLK.
>Eradication doesn't change the rotation
Yes it does. Ever heard of snapshotting?
>Incinerate is CD
Wew lad.
>The cycle stays the exact same barring usually one proc.
Again, you are literally clueless. If you desync your runes, your priorities shift to either blowing ERW/Rune Tap to fix it a bit or you have to unfuck your rune cycles by shifting strikes so your runes align once again. And this happens when you rush a strike despite a set of runes not being done or miss a proc during one rune cycle (see: priority system). Because before Cata runes worked differently. As for Blade Barrier, go read up on how it works and how you keep it up, or once again, visit /wpsg/ and find a wotlk server where you can see it for yourself.

>comparatively it's much more straightforward.
>more straightforward than PRESS DA GLOWY BUTEN
Ok.
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Can I see which mail I have registered for my account anywhere?
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>>172752136
i feel like they should have chosen china instead
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>>172788674
>laowai need a VPN now
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>>172787965
> If you weren't, you had to factor in rune sync, diseases on target and procs
You maintain everything and you don't have to worry about this.

>Yes it does. Ever heard of snapshotting?
It's still a subset of reasons for reapplying DoTs. Baby stuff.

>Wew
It is a CD move in that your other two moves you use are on CD.

>muh DKs
You know that if you keep a steady rotation this really never becomes a problem, right? That the most you can get out of something like this is through a...rotation? Not to mention that dealing with such problems is much more open ended with post-Cata WoW.

>>more straightforward than PRESS DA GLOWY BUTEN
Destro Warlock WOTLK:
Choose among two Curses
Keep up Immolate
Chaos Bolt and Conflagrate on CD
Incinerate when the above two are on CD

Destro Warlock Legion: http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/destruction-warlock-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities

Too much delusion if you think the above one matches up to the below in any way possible.
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>>172788364
If you try to reset your password it should say send the email belonging to the account.
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>>172789437
>You maintain everything and you don't have to worry about this.
And you fuck up your runes and do no dps. Amazing.
>It's still a subset of reasons for reapplying DoTs. Baby stuff.
If you reapply Corruption in WotLK, you failed already.
>It is a CD move in that your other two moves you use are on CD.
Really? Like what? Shadowbolt? This is about Demonology, you clueless shit.
>You know that if you keep a steady rotation this really never becomes a problem, right?
You know that gcd shifts rune cd's, right? You know that you cannot have a rotation and must use a priority system because otherwise you will fuck up your runes completely, right?
Oh I forgot, you don't. You have no clue how runes worked in WotLK.
>http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/destruction-warlock-pve-dps-rotation-cooldowns-abilities
And when you filter BABY STUFF such as life tapping when moving - people knew how it works since vanilla, maintaining DoT's and keeping up maintenance buffs, it becomes:
>Cast Chaos Bolt if you have 5 Soul Shards
>Cast [DPS cd] on cooldown
>AoE when applicable
>Cast Conflagrate
>Cast Incinerate as Filler
Which is obviously super-involving and literal rocket science for a clueless retard like you.
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>>172789643
Thing is I'm thinking of giving away my account to whatever random catches my fancy but I'd rather not have them see my mail as I was dumb enough not to use a disposable one and and elysium doesn't let you change your mail for whatever reason
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>Being THIS autistic.
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>>172774595
Tank or healslut or get out. There is never any demand for dps and even if you're god tier you won't find groups or gear unless you're clique
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>>172790054
>And when you filter BABY STUFF such as life tapping when moving
>literally didn't read the part where it says to use it to boost dps
Hahahahahahaha. It seems like rocket science to you if you couldn't pick up on that alone, forget how the other mechanics work if you think just those few would maximize DPS with the rest being baby stuff. Based on how you remember certain things, I don't think you played a damn thing after Wrath. You followed the hate hype instead of looking at the actual gameplay mechanics themselves.

>And you fuck up your runes and do no dps. Amazing.
Nope. The right order of strikes makes sure this won't happen.

>If you reapply Corruption in WotLK, you failed already.
So you have no clue how snapshotting works? What a surprise.

>Really? Like what? Shadowbolt? This is about Demonology, you clueless shit.
>expecting someone who has played all iterations to remember which specific build you're talking about
But if we are talking Demo, then it's even more braindead since it's Immo/Corrupt/Curse with SB spam, Soul Fire if low hp on add, Incin if proc.

>You know that gcd shifts rune cd's, right? You know that you cannot have a rotation and must use a priority system because otherwise you will fuck up your runes completely, right?
Oh I forgot, you don't. You have no clue how runes worked in WotLK.
Nah. The actual rotation itself is much larger when a particular kind of desync is taken into account. Thus if that overall perfect order is taken into account, there's nothing to worry about.
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>>172775329
Actually wasn't it the elves refusing to help the humans at first and silver moon didn't fall til after lordaeron was long gone
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>>172775951
Draenei have a group wide 1% hit rating racial making alliance technically better at pve. Doesn't make up for being ganked 24/7 before you get your flying mount tho
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>>172791289
>Glyph of Life Tap wasn't a thing
>Maintenance buffs are a new thing that came with Legion!
Stop posting anytime.
>Nope. The right order of strikes makes sure this won't happen.
>The actual rotation itself is much larger when a particular kind of desync is taken into account.
There is no perfect order, because your rune cd's naturally desync as you use your abilities due to the way they regen in WotLK. Other than that you have missed procs and unusead Death Runes if you have to for example run out - those fuck you up a lot too.

Go visit /wpsg/, ask for a decent WotLK server, play a few classes to learn how they worked then, because you're absolutely fucking clueless. Then you can check out how TBC classes worked (spoiler alert: not many buttons to press or things to look out for). Otherwise you kinda don't have anything to form an opinion on, you clueless imbecile.
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who out here pranking
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>>172791796
>putting words in my mouth about maintenance buffs being new
Yeah okay, I think you're still arguing with me for the sake of arguing to try to "win" something. You know my overall point being that retail is far more mechanically complex, you said that's not true for classes, so I posted something that literally shows how wrong such a statement is.

>There is no perfect order, because your rune cd's naturally desync as you use your abilities due to the way they regen in WotLK.
But they can be predicted. It doesn't lead to a rotation as predictable as baby tier Vanilla/TBC, but it's certainly still something that can be figured out.

>missed procs
Frost only had one move on proc in Wrath.

>clueless
Yes you're absolutely clueless. Just like every nostalgia fag/private server fag who thinks their iteration was the best without looking at what's actually happening with game mechanics.
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>>172791826
haha it's just a prank bro xd
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>>172792419
That Destro meme veins shit shows absolutely nothing. Keep maintenance buffs up! Time your cd's! Use big nukes when available! Remember to AoE when needed!
Really complicated stuff.

>But they can be predicted.
In about 10 rune cycles, if you stay gcd capped on just damage skills, you will desync your Frost and Unholy runes. Prepare for it right now, not knowing what phase will the boss be in and how many gcd's you'll lose on blowing defensives on unpredictable boss damage.
Also nice work implying Legion's euphoric priority systems can't be figured out.

Seriously, go roll on a fucking Wrath server and play a few classes, check how they work and what you should look out for. It doesn't hurt and you might actually get a clue on old expansion mechanics. As it stands, you're a clueless baby who apparently started playing in Cata.
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>>172792924
>>172792419
if you want to talk about legion, go to wowg
if you want to talk about expansions such as tbc or wrath, go to wpsg
either way, fuck off both of you.
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Stop playing with trannies
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>>172793618
Stop playing on a dead server.
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>>172792419
I've played retail and every version of wow. Each has their own intricacies. Either way pve is brain dead in every version of wow so you're both retarded. even top guilds on retail have shitters who can't do their rotation right. those same shitters would find a way to fuck up on vanilla/tbc as well like breaking cc or aoeing too early. Bads will be bad no matter how complex their rotation is.
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>>172793618
but i don't play with pupper pals
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>>172792924
>That Destro meme veins shit shows absolutely nothing. Keep maintenance buffs up! Time your cd's! Use big nukes when available! Remember to AoE when needed!
It's a lot more to keep track of per class than earlier WoW that's for sure. A priority system like also takes into account effects from outside the class, which have ramped up a lot more. Unlike Wrath, everything here's actually important.

>In about 10 rune cycles, if you stay gcd capped on just damage skills, you will desync your Frost and Unholy runes. Prepare for it right now, not knowing what phase will the boss be in and how many gcd's you'll lose on blowing defensives on unpredictable boss damage.
You must have been a shit DK in an already easy as fuck expansion to begin with. None of this is a problem if you know how to order things up in the right way. Most of the time you're switching back and forth between two cycles that go slightly different from each other.

>Also nice work implying Legion's euphoric priority systems can't be figured out.
Nah. Though it's less inherent due to class complexity and more due to fight mechanics.

>Seriously, go roll on a fucking Wrath server and play a few classes, check how they work and what you should look out for.
>implying I would ever want to play that casualfest ever again
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warmane just confirmed their new TBC server is legit and real.

x5 experience rate. Elysium is ofificially dead on arrival.

http://forum.warmane.com/showthread.php?t=350706

Elycucks BTFOD
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>>172794160
>None of this is a problem if you know how to order things up in the right way
>Most of the time you're switching back and forth between two cycles that go slightly different from each other.
In this thread >>>172625128 you can ask about WotLK servers where you can actually play Wrath and see how classes worked back then. I personally suggest Gamer-District as it's 7x xp so you'll level super fast and will be able to check what mechanics whatever class you pick had in WotLK.
Other than that, fuck off to wowg if you want to hang out with people who value Legion's enlightened, intrinsic and atheist design.
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Azuregos killed, Alliance winz again
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Hey lads, newfag to elysium

whats the best class for pve in general. I was thinking about rolling a human warlock or a cow shaman
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>>172794523
Every class is useful except for shamans
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>>172794523
PvE-wise, Warlocks are great if you want to dps.
Shamans are ok if you want to heal.
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>>172793778
>Either way pve is brain dead in every version of wow so you're both retarded.
>https://www.wowprogress.com/
>only 84 guilds have cleared Mythic Gul'dan and we are already moving onto the next raid tier
>raid logs showing that it's because players lack the skill and coordination required to beat it
Where's your Mythic Gul'dan clear, my man?

>>172794437
>Other than that, fuck off to wowg if you want to hang out with people who value Legion's enlightened, intrinsic and atheist design.
>T-This is my hugbox, if you say anything against the hivemind gtfo
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Anyone on ZK wants a highish orc warrior on Ely?
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>>172794975
Why aren't you talking about how awesome Legion is in /wowg/, anon?
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>>172794979
yes please!
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>>172794975
Nobody here gives a fuck about your hot opinions or lack of knowledge of past expansions.
People here enjoy their old, beaten vanilla content and solved mechanics.
You can bitch all you want that retail is more challenging and that the boss design is way more complicated, and literally nobody will give a fuck until you start spouting clearly wrong shit like you've been so far.
If you want to discuss vanilla shit, elysium staff corruption or tranny memes, this is the place.
If you want to preach how superior, euphoric and amazing Legion is, this is not the place. Try /wowg/.

I hope this clears it up for you. Again, this is not World of Warcraft general. This is Elysium General. It's not about Blizzard's current expansion, it's about a private vanilla server ran by russian crime lords and a hive of transsexuals.

In case this is still too confusing:
/elyg/ - Elysium General -> about vanilla on a shitty russian server
/wpsg/ - WoW Private Servers General -> currently about MoP on a pretty ok Hungarian server and lots of TBC bitching
/wowg/ - World of Warcraft General -> currently about Legion and Legion accessories.

I know it's confusing, but an ace like you who can master the ever-so-complicated Legion Destro Warlock can handle this. Ganbatte, anon-san. I believe in you.
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>>172795469
post a pic of your char select on ely and zk
and put on a trip so i know it's you
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>>172795572
>baiting someone this bad to get them banned for account buying

lol
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>>172795572
Too much work
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>>172795729
>not reporting account theft and getting your account back while draining the one you got of all the golds
Are you even chinese?
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>>172795729
i can't disprove that. the reason is that i want to take precautions against someone just harvesting the account
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>>172794038
source
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>>172795885
My butthole.
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>>172795761
I understand.

If someone else wants it just do what I asked anon to do

Oh, and I should mention that I can't hand over the email adress connecte to it. I will setup a 2fa for you, though if you want it.
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>>172795549
I only posted a shitpost about Horde that a certain other person took way too seriously. You see, I actually play here as well. In a ranking above I put Vanilla on top tied with Legion because I like both in different ways. That was my original point being made. But of course, as usual, there's sperging that happens with whatever it is people get triggered by. Case in point this guy who hates anything after Wrath.
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>>172794409
>x5 experience rate
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>>172795969
Yea and you can censor the names if you want to, I just want some proof that you actually don't have a 60 or whatever on ely.
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>>172796031
>Post shit that's absolutely wrong
>Get told it's wrong
>Insist it's not
>Get explained why it's wrong
>Y-you j-just hate everything after Wrath!
Can you just leave?
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>>172796031
Great. And now, apply your newfound knowledge.
Legion talk goes in /wowg/. TBC-MoP talk goes in /wpsg/. Trannies, vanilla, chinks and criminal russians go in /elyg/. Try not to mix them up, it really shits up the threads.
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>>172796176
>getting triggered this hard
Nah, we don't need losers who end up being this wrong on the chans or in Vanilla. Shit I know you're that same guy because of the way you responded to my previous post. I bet you play Horde, too. Based on this convo, time to update the list of Horde degeneracy

-Ugly as fuck
-Ninja looters
-Inefficient raiders
-Never win BGs
-Resort to ganking/stalk griefing lowbies because they never win BGs
-Their high levels don't come help their lower levels as often during those rare instances where Ally decides to gank
-They have the inferior exclusive class
-Horde often being misunderstood as evil really brings in the tryhard immature edgy cringe teens
-Combine above with people's faux elitism because they genuinely believe "vanilla hardcore! Retail casual!" for even more cringe
-Horde got the shit end of questing zones and capitals as well
-Get triggered very easily
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>>172796787
>we don't need losers who end up being this wrong on the chans or in Vanilla
And yet you're still here. Proven wrong over and over again. Proven clueless in this very thread.
And you still persist.
Will you just fuck off already? You're not even entertaining anymore.
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>>172796787
Why are alliance niggers so annoying?

They either shitpost about the wrong topic or try to horde attention by pretending to be trannies.
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>>172796787
>Horde got the shit end of questing zones and capitals as well
yeah, they just get the best possible locations for towns in every contested zone, more flight paths and better quests 30+.
truly shit end of questing zones.
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>>172796787
>yap about cata being super duper great
>get told
>yap about cata class design being AMAZING because muh brand new priorities everywhere
>get told again
>suddenly make it about Legion
>get told to fuck off
>bitch and moan
>get told to fuck off
>bitch and moan again
>get told to fuck off
>HAHA YOU GOT TRIGGERED
who the fuck are you so i can corpse camp your retarded ass
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Why are random Banana-paladins so much fun to play with?
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>>172796495
Indeed. I think we can all learn a lesson about how inferior the Horde is on this server through this derailment.

>>172796892
>still trying to derail the thread by talking about me instead of Vanilla

>>172796982
Silly Horde nigger! Why would the ALLIANCE want to HORDE attention?

>>172797206
>horde nigger literally uses the term "get told" or thinks any of that happened here
Adding "Low attention span" to the list of Horde degeneracy.
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>>172797618
Holy shit the Alliance is the definition of shitshin niggers, I bet you play as a fem human too you dumb tranny.
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>>172797618
Are we near the part where you claim it was all a ruse yet and that you don't actually believe the bullshit you spout?
This is getting boring.
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Why did it take until WotLK for Stormwind to get a harbour

Why does this coastal city have virtually no coast access
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>>172797291
Yellow power ranger is the best
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>>172797726
please do not lump the Alliance together with that retard.
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>>172798015
Because then the boat to Auberdine would have to go from there and Night Elves would lose the chance to explore Wetlands at lvl 12.
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>>172798015
Faction balance
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>>172797726
>not playing based fem human Paladin of justice and honor!
Oh wait, you can't! Hahahahahah
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>>172794409
haha! i no longer need to get good!

I can buy good!

i kill u all com tbc!
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Is it actually impossible to tank SFK as a paladin?
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*baaaahhhhs your path*
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>>172800093
is it palausible
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Someone give me a tl;dr of recent events please, last time I was keeping up with this Nost had asked Elysium to give back the core and shit
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what the hell is wrong with people? now i am going to camp his ass to and he pretty much just wasted both of ours time.... epic
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Would you, /vg/?
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Would you?
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>>172802802
>>172803319
yes
there aren't many holes I wouldn't dive into
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Am i wasting my time leveling a Shadow priest? Like will there be a spot for one in raids eventually?
>>
>hunter rolls need on http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=6461
>when there were 2 clothies and a resto druid in the group
Was this fair?
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>>172807067
thats fucked up
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>>172802607
What is your level %? Curious about your gains
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>>172802607
The two most KOS race+class combos in the game...
In the same place..Whoah....... Too.... Much................. Cancer..........................
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>>172780041
>Well shit, I wouldn't wanna look like a bunch of deformed, unhealthy looking weirdos.
t. erper
>Yet it's only pug PvP.
and there u go
>Why not?
doesn't matter if a pala makes one guy invulnerable when they have 3 ele shams at BS oneshotting your team. do some premade pvp on this serv and you will see it happen
>I said PRIORITY not ROTATION.
it's the same thing. makes no difference if you're pressing 1 button or 10 different at different times as its a trivial matter to begin with
>current WoW's PvE mechanics which require perfect coordination among multiple people for complex raid mechanics
what the fuck are you high on
>You were just trying to make an argument above that more is not better
no? you said that alliance has better leveling zones but they straight up don't, you spend more time walking between zones than leveling in them
>>
I WANT TO BE A SHEEP
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>>172808068
87%
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Have they released Ahn'Qiraj yet?
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>>172813748
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>>172813748
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>>172814065
>>172815030
I guess that answers my question and validates my decision to leave a few months ago.
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>>172815296
people were doing the exact same thing 2 years ago with BWL, I don't know why anyone in the private server community is surprised things come late.

oh right everyone is a newfag
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>>172807067
Yes that's fair. The shoulders are bad but they have some minor use in pvp at least. The only clothie that actually 'needs' it is warlock. If you wanted it you should have needed as well
>>
ahhhh i can barely open my eyes.. wish i could always feel like this ;_;
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>>172815757
>class that literally never gets hit to the point where hunters usually have their defense skill perpetually a few good levers lower
>see I need it more than you because... uhh... PVP!
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>>172816053
who cares they're garbage shoulders and no one cares about loot drama of a level 20
>>
>>172816472
huntards rolling on shit they don't need is universal and transcends level
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>>172816576
I don't think the huntard meme applies to 2017, I'm pretty sure it's just because you're in the retard levels and that attracts a lot of retards not knowing how to play the game
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>>172816053

Why do you need it any more than him?
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>>172816706
For the reasons in the body of the quoted post
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>>172816832

You didn't give any reason that explains why you need it
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>leave behind a lot of posts
>both shitposting and well written essays
>be excited in the morning to see all my (You)s
>they are all replies to the shitposting

Ok.

It's 7 in the morning, the comfiest time to farm. How are you today, /elyg/? What are your plans for this fine Sunday? Are you ready for another fresh start when the herd will be moving towards Crestfall?
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>>172662542
>709 people on zeth
kek
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>>172817417
>sub 5k elys weekend night

YA DUN SON
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>>172817417
>>172817653
>yfw Alex won

Are we playing Hellfire?
>>
>>172817978
Why do people think hellfire will be any different than the first time if they didn't change any code

I swear the private server scene is like abused wives
>>
>smooth deadmines run
>already downed 3 bosses
>tank accidentally pulls too much
>he dies
>says sorry and leaves
>entire group falls apart

Ah the classic vanilla experience
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>>172818428
I ask the same thing about Crestfall, but I didn't see a valid answer yet.

We shouldn't have left Kronos.
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>leveling my warrior
>despite having to eat between every mob kill and being free honor for horde i persevere
>90% of dungeons i want to do already have groups with other warriors tanking or druids/paladins
>won't take me as fury since they dont want to share loot
>try to form my own groups but they fizzle out before we even get to the instance

this blows, seriously considering rerolling to an easier leveling class because this slog isn't worth it at all
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>>172819078
Everyone wants to be the warrior, anon, yet not all of them are prepared for it. Just keep it up. There will be a demand for good warriors at max level, since most of them pussy out like you want to.
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>>172819078
Warrior leveling is aids solo and it doesn't get any better at 60 unless you have a healer watching your back.
>>172819442
>everyone wants to be the warrior
Yeah must be why there are so many rogues and mages.
>demand for good Warriors at max level
With the exception of tanks this is just false. No one wants Warriors in their group unless they're a tank or it's AQ40 and they're decked in purples.
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>>172733197
why human rogue?
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>>172820035
there are more warriors than rogues.
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>>172819078
What makes you think it's better at 60? It's not.
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>>172821970
Out of those retarded race choices you question that particular one?
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>>172822794
This

Everyone fell for the "rogues nevr get groups there's too many of them everyone roll warrior instead you will insta find a group xD" meme and they're the most popular class
>>
Noob here, are the Blackened Defias gear a noob trap? I got the gloves but they're worse than the regular questing gear uncommon gloves I got.

Should I just sell them?
>>
>Finally high enough level that I'm not free honor when someone finds me.
>Become an asshole who kills people just because they can.

How do people have fun in pve servers? PvP is the best part of this game.
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>>172825135
I guess you're either Horde or haven't stepped into Feralas yet.
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>>172824824
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>>172825359
lvl 25 Undy Mage.

I've barely steped outside of the Barrens, last session I spend my time questing and killing allies in Ashenvale and Stonetalon.
>>
How should leveling a profession work? What is a good pace? I estimated that gaining 5 profession points at every level should be good enough (60 * 5 = 300), but then I get recipes which requires 115 tailoring yet makes a lvl 18 item. So how are the item requirement levels and the profession skill levels adjusted?
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is it possible to get devilsaur leather atm?
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newest

>>172828384

>>172828384

>>172828384

>>172828384

>>172828384
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>>172819078
it's to late for you to be a raid tank
people will only ever want to to tank 5 mans
then you'll have to look for a guild looking for fury dps because unless you join one starting from scratch its unlikely you'll ever land a tanking gig.
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>>172807067
>http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=10657
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