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RINGED CITY IS OUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED, STAY AWAY WHILE YOU PLAY IT BY YOURSELF

Feasted by Locusts

>>172643029

>Ringed City items checklist (if you find an error, please reply and correct):
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Can we all agree that the timeline and the lore in DS3 in fucked up?
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FRIEDE, BRING ME MUH FLAIL
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Fuck you all, Gael is better than Orphan
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i accidentally sent patches out for greirat after beating the game
if i beat the nameless king, will he come back? nameless king and midir are the only bosses I haven't killed
plz help
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WHERE

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THE

CURRENT

TIER

LIST

i have no fucking idea whats playable and what not. I want to make new builds but have no idea if its gonna be for nothing
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>>172661978
no
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>>172661978
Wrong
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nth for best covenant
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>>172661935
>plan enough story for one game
>make 3
It was doomed from the beginning
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>>172661978

True
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>>172661710
>15 estus flasks
>People still can't clear this dlc
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>>172661978
go to bed Peeve
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>>172662020
>i have no fucking idea whats playable and what not.
Play it and find out.

>I want to make new builds but have no idea if its gonna be for nothing

You get 5 respecs on every character every NG.
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>>172661978
t. Couldn't get him to his second phase
>>172662074
Red artorias + BSB + orphan wings copypasta
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>>172662020
Tiers for what? Raw damage, pvp viability?

Just use what you want nerd. I'm on NG+7 and I have like two dozen weapons fully upgraded that I cycle between.
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>return to the game after launch
>still literally 0 ways to stop or punish shitters from just chugging estus like there's no tomorrow and summoning 4 phantoms
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>>172661935
It's all because they couldn't just have Filianore take you somewhere totally new that was definitely after the end of the world where there's nothing left but you and santa claus, or at least to the abyss or something
Instead we had to go somewhere that clearly came before all that because muh boxart finale (and probably cut content knowing this DLC)
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>>172661909
His delivery has also gotten progressively more annoying over time. It's like he's bought into all the "omg such a smooth voice~" fangirling and now he's just trying way, way too hard and it sounds forced and fake.
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>>172661771
I think people at this point aren't as willing to dissect things on the level that they were back when there were only one or two games in this series.
It certainly seems that way around here at least, when a lot of lore questions people ask are met with "convoluted lol" and nothing else.
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>>172661845
>because no one cares about Gael
>he's literally irrelevant in the grand scheme of things
Not true.
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So is that friendly locust fella that you talk to the same guy or are there just multiple non-hostile locusts that like to chat?
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>>172662312
undead match
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>>172662134
Lmao
I FUCKING LOVE GOUGH DUDE
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>>172662287
dunno i need something with high AR, is capable of spanking ganks and a second, quick punishing weapon to slap gulpers.

I was using the astora GS but the weapon art is shit and the AR rather low. Not feeling like using the exile GS.
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Mad King Crucifix looks like the best damn Halberd in the game, plus it's metal AF.

What stats/buffs do you guys recommend? Worth doing some 60 faith dark blade shenanigans? Or 66 str human pine resin? What is the best way to build it (SL130 btw)? Having an actually good non-ultra weapon with the insane giant club R2's makes me horny.
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Dark Souls I was a great stand alone game, Dark Souls II was alright as a separate story after SotFS, and I could accept things being vague before the Dark Souls III's DLCs, but why the fuck would Miyazaki keep adding new misterious lore and creatures in what's supposed to be the very last piece of Dark Souls content?
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>>172662087
Because they keep summoning 3 phantoms making bosses giant HP pools with a gorillion defence
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wait what? what's the lore implication?
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>>172662251
>forgetting Orphan lightning
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>>172662475
He was the original champion who started the fight clubs so he could loot the corpses of the losers
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>>172662465

>Tripfag
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So the Dark Souls grants you the ability to be anime? uh, nice I guess
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>>172662475
"You dont own AoA but we want you to participate in shitter central now with 2 more maps"
There is no lore implication but watch Vaati make a 30 minute video on it
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So when can we expect Dark Souls 3: Savant of the Primary Transgression?
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>>172662435
Greatsword, Zweihander, Ringed Knight Paired UGS, Smoughs Hammer, Ledo's Greathammer, Dragonslayer Greataxe, Yhorm's Great Machete, etc

Any of those will do the trick. If you're SL100+ and have the equip burden to spare Ledo's Greathammer is one of the highest AR weapons in the game right now. Shits on ganks if you play it right.
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>>172662538
Literally just thought of it because I remembered him cry/shrieking
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>>172662465
Cries of "pointless fanservice" or "more shit no one cares about", which do you prefer?
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>>172661935
I honestly don't even know what the fuck is going on, moreso than usual as someone who doesn't have a very deep understanding of the lore. Between the paintings, warping forwards/backwards or whatever etc. I honestly just play DaS3 like a small child 'ooh aah'ing' at the pretty things.
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Are there only two Spears rewards?
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>>172662610
>Come back for the DLC
>No Lucifer
>See kobra posting
>Now this Tripfag
What is even going on in here
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you might not like it, but king's field is canon now.
better rev up those emulators if you want to understand dark souls lore
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>>172661978
Rate the Bait: 10/10
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>>172662647

Make a fanfic of how patches was the champion gravetender and he'll steal it.
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>>172662369
Mindlessly consuming media is stupid and cancerous. That's what the Souls general has become, ironically the community that was once special is now no different from the one of, I dunno, Assassin's Creed.

Very sad. Makes no sense coming here.
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>>172662369
When the series was smaller and fewer people but more dedicated. Now every fucking casual and /v/ person gets it to prove their "gamer grit" and as a result there's shittons of people who give no fucks.

The general went from my favorite place on the web ~8 years ago on /v/ to an irredeemable collection of faggots, and a handful of people suffering through it while enjoying dark souls.

This is why I think there was such a huge split with BB.
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>You will never play Dark Souls 2 2 with all the cool stuff, mechanics and concepts that were cut of the original game being implemented and refined
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>>172662794
tripfags went on to shit all over better series, souls is dead
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>>172662797
>if you want to understand dark souls lore
Thankfully I couldn't care less.
Wouldn't mind playing KF, though.
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>>172662794
No who?
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>>172662847
Why must you remind me of this suffering
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>>172662415
Yeah but I want to kill them in places with actual consequences like on the way to a boss.
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>>172662369

There's just a ton of people here who started with the latest games and spit out stupid shit like "only Humans can Hollow." There's been more lorefagging in the past week than I've seen in years.
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>>172662797
proofs?
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>>172662840
This screams virgin
But I hate These fags too
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>>172662794
kobra's here? I want his kenshiro build!
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>>172662932
Is that you Dorkmoon Lucifer?
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>>172663086
>Gets easily triggered by Bloggers
kys
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>>172662875
>Wouldn't mind playing KF, though.
Different beast entirely, but still really fun. I'd recommend it.
>>172662840
I think a lot of you guys have some insane rose tinted glasses on. There was for sure a 'golden age' of these generals on /v/ and such, but things went to shit (imo) a lot quicker than some people are willing to admit. Those days were cool, but I think a lot of people here and elsewhere aren't willing to come to grips with the fact that, maybe they are just burned out with souls games in general.
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>>172663057
right here my man
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whats the best kings field game?
I remember playing the first one a while back but I felt that was too dated for me.
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I liked the other anon in the last thread
So I'll keep it going
Dark Souls 3: Student of the Premier Malefaction
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>can't get steel soldier helm without ugly aventail
>can't get crossbowman's version of deserter armour, with a much better mail texture
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Going to fight Midir for the 100th time, /dsg/. Rate my build.
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Dark souls lore is done. It was beautful in ds1, a little weird but OK in ds2 and now they've fucked it. They'be told the same story three times whe changing slight things and names to add one or two "little" lorebombs, but all they do is fuck the lore up. No joke, the majority of dark souls 3 lore is retcons of what we've been told before. Anyway. Here's Gael.
Gael is tasked with retrieving the blood of the dark soul for a super special awesome painting, and no one including him thinks he can acrually do it. Queue wacky adventures and he ultimately finds the dark soul and the Pygmy Lords who possess it, but they are long dead. Unable to collect their empowered blood yet so close to his goal he makes a heavy decision; he attempts to consume them to gain the dark soul, the logic being that if he is successful than his blood should be dark soul-infused. When we find him he either thinks it is too soon and he doesn't have the soul yet, so he fights you for trying to stop him. He attacks you because he wants to deliver the blood to the painting himself (for all he knows you're gonna kill him and teabag him and leave his corpse to rot). Or most likely, the soul has begun to corrupt him
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>>172663264
Looks familiar....
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>>172663385
>no ketamine on the hotbar
Fake.
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>>172661710
What are you going to play when this General dies in few weeks?
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>>172663348
KF2 and 3
or 1 and 2 in the US

4 is an okay game but it's slower than the rest for no reason and its lore is totally unrelated to anything
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>>172662447
a-anyone...?
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>>172662840
This.
>you are now aware that Dark Souls was 6 years ago
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>>172663258
>Different beast entirely
I imagine. For what it's worth, I got into DS because it is the closest I'm ever going to get to a HD, real-time Vagrant Story.
KF looks a good bit more primitive than VS, but I think I'd dig it. All I really ask for is monsters and NUMBERS.
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>>172663353
>tfw forgot to take off the name
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So did comic-anon finish his DLC2 edition and did i miss it or is he still working
I did get the version some other anon made.
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Were the demon princes copied from Paarl darkbeast?
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the giant door shields are worth the price of the dlc honestly
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>>172663385
Jesus christ.

also
>40 END

mfw I beat the DLC with 12
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>>172663507
>What are you going to play when this General dies in few weeks?
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>>172662797
Lol I don't like but nlime you homos I'm not gonna suck on shit because I was told. Dark souls 1 was great, with amazing lore 9/10. Everything after has been a fucking shitfest designed to make us pay for crappy dlc or play other old shit we don't want. That doesn't mean its good in a different way now, its garbage now. Overall the series has concluded as a 2/10, dark souls 1 will forever be remembered fondly and the sequels will be remembered for killing it and raping its corpse. Dark souls sucks.
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Why the FUCK does Yhorm's machete consume so much fucking stamina? It's nearly more than any other weapon on 1-hand.
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>>172663624

wtf did you use with 12 END? dark hand?
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>fighting gael with lmao2gs
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Behold this city!
We are kindred, belike two eyes which gaze upon the other.
Fear not the Dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin.
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>>172662696

At this point I'd prefer fanservice, adding new stuff is fine if the story is closed properly, like Gael, his story feels kinda vague but you knew about his intentions from the first DLC.

I'd have been quite happy to meet one of the primeval serpents again, since they were the only characters guaranteed to be unkillable in the original game.

>>172663507

Probably gonna play New Vegas at last, or complete Doom which I stopped halfway through.
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>>172663385
>that everything
the fuck is this
is
is he trying to fatroll Midir?
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>>172662840
Yeah, it really is nostalgic to think back on Demons Souls generals on /v/. Totally different atmosphere.
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>>172663581
Here you go
>>172663652
Maybe I'll finally kill myself dude
I ALREADY FUCKING RELAPSED SO WHY NOT, MAYBE I'LL JUST GO SULK IN ANOTHER GENERAL
IS THERE A POINT
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>>172663706
Because it's a giant machete
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>>172663507
why would it die?
you don't think dark souls was the last ARPG series from is going to make, do you?
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>>172663697
Buuuhuuu, bitter baby
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>>172663697
This is what I get for playing a jap game though, have they EVER not skullfucked their own lore? Jap writing is the saddest shit in the world.
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>>172663385
>152
>Pyromancer
>Dex ring
Holy fuck...I'm gonna... *hurk*
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>>172663735
Dragon Slayers axe
I went into the DLC on a new character at SL72.

You only get one or two hits into bosses, You really don't need much stamina.

I still have 12 END and PvP with it.
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Can you parry the WA form of Aquamarine dagger?
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>>172663832
Thanks my dude
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>>172663832

YAY NEW (and final?) COMIC!
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>>172663791
>>172662840
>>172663258
>>172662369
We're in the post-modern age of the internet, where ironic shitposting is king and if you take things seriously you get ridiculed.
>it's just a game
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>>172663886
Yeah that's my point, its really, really bad now, its tragic. If there is one good thing from keeping up with this saga its that anyone who thinks dark souls last 1 is good either didn't play 1 or has shit taste..
Tell me, is 3 the only one you've played?
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So Friede is Yuria's sister. Makes sense that the painter is related to Kaathe in a way then.
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>>172663851
Yeah, but /dsg/ will die
I persinally liked this game because of its dark medieval fantasy setting
Didnt like Bloodborne that much.
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>>172663507
Game was pretty comfy right before the DLC dropped actually. DaS3 will settle in like the previous games, all of which I still play.
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Okay I'm gonna stop posting MvG trying to beat midir right now but seriously this shit is hilarious.
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>>172664152
Bloodborne is the inferior game. Just ask /bsg/
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>>172664152
I dont think it'll die, just slow to a /bbg/ crawl with ocassional bursts of posting
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>>172664152
Nah, it will just get renamed to from general or something.
We already talk about bloodborne, Demon's souls and King's field regularly here.
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I don't know if it's news or not, but Lapp gives you the champion's bones if you complete his quest and if you don't have it already.
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>>172664152
>Yeah, but /dsg/ will die
It won't. It'll quiet down sure, but people will stick around if only to bait people into shitposts.
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Why did painter make a million paintings of Elfriede?
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What are some of the best quality weapons in the game?
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>>172663083

Meh, that was a little much on my part, but I miss the small, tight knit community that made quality new members because of its culture. Then we got a huge flood with PtD, some people here for the HARD GAME meme and plenty just interested cool people. Problem is guess who stays and guess who leaves?

We have seen tons of webms of idiots using CE showing us in pvp or beating bosses and acting like they're awesome.

I don't bother go to PC fight clubs anymore at all for related reasons.

>>172663258
It's not rose tinted, for the purposes of saving all the images, I saved plenty of the threads. It was chill, sharing builds, a common activity was to walk through the game together and BS. Because generals on /v/ was so rare then, lots of the people who now still make up /v/ would come in and be assholes for making generals until other games started doing it a shitton.

It wasn't bad until /vg/ and even then it was still pretty solid. I remember once this fucking idiot on xbox came in asking "where's the pyro glove" and we fucked with him for a few hours and he thought we were all one person. Then someone took shit from our convo and made an op image. Hilarious stuff.

We've lost some GOOD tripfags, and thankfully lost some of the worst, most autistic ones like Sif. Over time the quality has lowered and I'm sure it was a gradual decline but every new release, new DLC and major sale it drops the bar lower noticeably.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but if you were around then vs now, there isn't a comparison. It was as bad as any other 4chan place but it had a lot more of a community feel. This place feels more like a subreddit most of the time.
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hot theories time
The wall around the Ringed City is the High Wall of Lothric. Breaking the egg is what causes the wall to appear suddenly underneath the entire land.
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>>172664145
No I played all Souls games, starting with Demon Souls, but its just a game.
There is more in life.
That's the only Hack and Slash series I have ever played because everything else is gay jap anime shit or cringe Virgin shit
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Best chime at 40 FTH?
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Can anyone thats read nausicaa say if yupa and gael have anything in common other than looks?
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REMOVE MIDIR remove midir
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Door is my favorite DLC weapon holy shit this thing is crazy
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>The connection to the Dark Souls III game server was lost
>Returning to title menu
Why has this been happening non-stop since the DLC released?
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>Splitleaf's WA combos from an R1
Well I better enjoy this and the doors while I can before they get nerfed to shit.
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>>172661710
From will definitely release a lore book for Dark Souls now that it's over, right?

Or is the lore forever confined to a handful of bullet points Miyazaki scribbled on a beer stained napkin?
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What are the best weapons of the ringed city DLC?? ringed knight greatswords look insane for a quality build
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>>172664270
Lolno.
>>172664152
>I persinally liked this game because of its dark medieval fantasy setting
Really hope you played Demon's Souls. Because not only it does that better, it's also the best Souls game.
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>>172663418
DS2 fucked the lore. We spent all of 1 learning of specific people, events, and important ongoings.

2 said FUCK ALL THAT SHIT IT'S IRRELEVANT BECAUSE IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING OVER AND OVER. WHO CARES ABOUT A SPECIFIC CYCLE but please pay attention to my specific cycle VIPs sempai
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>play through the game with Vordt, casually wrecking shit
>start a dex char, suck dick and spend three times as much time per location
Ultra hammers are really the easy mode now. It was even easier than raw ass+GCFO
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>/dsg/ will die
As someone who has been with STALKER general since the old days on /v/, this is false.
You might be spending a lot of time on the back pages but the general won't die.
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>>172664467
I think Priest
The chart shows Caitha&Crystal have higher spellbuff but its tested at 40 Fth&Int. Priest is the highest at 40 of the non-Int scaling chimes at 183 Spellbuff
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>>172664629

The latter. Though I would love of the first happened.
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>>172664629
might be a while, but it will probably happen.

KF got it's lorebook with the darkside box that came out on the 10th anniversary i think.
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>>172664684
Thanks anon.
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SO I'm replaying AoA
Did people find some sort of "secret" to these annoying as fuck wolves? There's like 10 of these nigger pieces of shit. Is there a mob that summons them?
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>>172664629
If they do, it will be just as made up as anything you read here. It wouldn't surprise me if an "Official" book didn't involve From at all.
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>>172664549

Do you do invasions/gank spanks with it or purely duels?
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>Gael consumed the dark soul
>Fight similar to Artorias initially
>Dark soul consumes him more
>Fights like Gwyn and even uses fire

So did Gwyn find part of the dark soul or what?
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>>172662074
autism: the boss
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>>172664754
No, just a whole lot of doggos
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>>172664128
The psychology of that mindset though is so fucking cringey.

"I'm afraid to say anything real and expose myself to critique because I was kid gloved forever so I'll say nothing true or say true while winking and no one can say anything about me! If what I like is bad, it's ironic! If the way I make fun of it bad, it's irony!"
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>>172664637

>>172663418
It was hardly a little weird but OK in 2. They had to salvage the plot with Aldia because vanilla was such a mess. Also cycles.
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>>172663518
how is 4 slower? the first one was already pretty sluggish.
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Am I missing something here or is it just lucky dodging?

I haven't seen any more "angel roots" yet, besides the first one. But maybe I just didn't look well enough.
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>>172664789
That's not fire, it's just ghost blood magic recycled from a bloodborne boss
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FUCK THIS FUCKING MIDIR FAGGOT PLEASE FUCKING END MY LIFE
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>>172662696
this, so many retards crying FANSERVICE everytime there is a reference to an important DaS1 character
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>>172664629
Miyazaki has said that he'll NEVER EVER tell DS's "story" or talk about its lore because he doesn't want players to go "M said this so it's canon". He says he likes making up shit with the bits he puts in the game as well and enjoys the community discussions around it.
IIRC he also said that he himself doesn't have a "established lore/chain of events" in his head either.
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>>172662470
demon prince is easy as fuck with 3 summons, hard as fuck with 1 or 2, and pretty hard with 1 but doable
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>>172664789
>even uses fire
That's not fire, doesn't even do fire damage.
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>>172662046
kys
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>the constant wave of 'what is the best x' posting itt right now
/v/ please
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>Gael consumes dark soul
>Fights like Artorias when he went mad
>Dark soul wreaks more havoc on him
>Begins to fight like Gwyn and even has fire in his attacks like all the other Lords of Cinder

How did the dark soul give him the power of a Lord of Cinder?
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>>172664562
Gael's GS also combos R1 into WA, does like 900 damage. Maybe these weapons will get nerfed, seems like too much damage out of a single R1.

The Doors don't seem overpowered though, they're rather easy to backstab.
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>>172664847
The one to the swamp angel is in the swamp
The one for that one is just up ahead, past that bit
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>>172662046
>2 rewards
What ?
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>>172664838
Or more like nobody cares enough to take anything seriously, so taking anything seriously, and thus caring more than it is acceptable to care, is reprehensible.
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>>172663507
Not sure it can die desu senpai. If it's lived from game to game it'll last longer than a few weeks with no new content in sight.
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>>172664997
I killed a sunbro and the host
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>>172664782
you can wreck whole gank squads just by L1 comboing since it stuns forever and gives massive as fuck hyper armor

or you can L2 R1 for that crazy as fuck tracking hit
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>>172664987
Thanks for the info.
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>>172663551
Yeah.. stop man. I had my kid right before that.

>>172663791
Remember Biorr of the Twin Fangs? He taught me PvP because back then ALL I did was make PvE coop characters to help people with specific boss level ranges.
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>>172664847
One is up on the giant tree root in the middle of the swamp, on the left about half way up you can get onto some buildings

Other is at the very end of the tree root route, you can drop down onto more buildings and walk down a root to the underside of the cliff
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>>172664848
More accurately it's ghost blood magic recycled from an enemy in giant swamp #50 earlier in the game recycled from a Bloodborne boss
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>>172665086
>on the left about half way up you can get onto some buildings
Damnit, I actually thought to myself to go the other way first, but then I saw Zoey and just forgot about that. hah
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>>172665029
Oh alright
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>>172664152
Seeing that /hg/ is still around, i'm sure /dsg/ will be just fine.
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>>172665070
Remember the Penetrator?
He didn't really teach me much he's just alpha as fuck
>royal purple
>nimble but strong
>kills an obnoxious fat fuck
>has a knight the size of a tower defending him beforehand
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>>172664454
>its just a game.
>>172664128
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>>172665098
i wish instead of the stupid crossbow geal gave that sweet sweet cape as a weapon
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>>172662696
They committed to fanservice when literally the entire game was about Gwyn.
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>>172664963
Nito, Gwyn, Witch, and Pygmy got souls. Pygmy split it amongst his people. Gael collected many fractions of the dark souls through consumption. He got a power up. If he collected all then he would have reached god status.

TL;DR - He didn't receive power through linking flame. He got it from the original source of evil.
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>>172664842
your guess is as good as mine.
KF1-3 were slow for good reason, the hardware limitations and a HUGE technical ambition. never before on a console was there an interconnected world with no loading times. the slower movement and turn speeds let the game load as you play instead of making you wait.

KF4 has no such hardware limitations, they just made it slow so they didn't have to optimize as much i guess?
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>>172665070
I remember all the DeS/DaS1 posters. I remember all the great discussion and art and how even when there was stupid shitposting discussion was generally on point. I've got some of the old DaS1 art collages that one dude did too but I can't find them right now.
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>>172664454
>>172664128
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Would I be considered a gigantic faggot if I summon for Midir?

I havent summoned for a single boss in the entire series on my first kill, but this fucker has too much HP
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Why does reddit love 2 so much?
was the pvp that good?
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>>172665502
>but this fucker has too much HP
And your masterplan is to give him more?
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>>172665520
reddit hates 2. only a handful of users will defend it with their teeths and nails, though and those were the "master pvpers" in 2 like skorbrand and all those yurops
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>>172665256
Kek.
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>>172665502
Just get gud really
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>>172665502
You'd be a gigantic faggot in a bountiful and endless field of gigantic faggots.

You bought the game, play it how you like.
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so are STR weapons viable now?
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>Does 3 flips with AOE's and kills you with a lightning strike
heh, nothing personal kid
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>>172665502
Summoning will only give him more HP.
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>>172664963
>>172665404
The Souls of Lords was originally found within flame.
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>>172662087
>not having 11 because you forget where you find the fragments
>not going in underleveled
>not wanting to clear all the bosses alone, not summoning ever
>not realizing you can oneshot the fatties with plunging attacks

This DLC was hell. And I loved it.
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>>172665771
You might be the only person in existence to get hit by the lightning and I'm curious to hear your excuse
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>>172665051

L1 comboing? Like what just L1 spam on ganks? Also idk if anyone asked this yet but can you still do the WA L2 R1 or R2 stuff even without FP? Like what's the difference between having and not having FP with those moves?
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>>172665579
What's the next step of your master plan?!
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>>172664152
If Katawa Shoujo general is still around then anything is possible.
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>>172665520
Reddit and Twitch tends to shit on DaS2. Most streamers are pretty vocal about their hate for DaS2. The Reddit crowd cares more for the PvE stuff so DaS2 gets trashed outside a few dedicated dudes I'd assume.

DaS2's pvp was very different, but good if you could get into it I'd say.
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>>172664940
>hard as fuck with 1 or 2, and pretty hard with 1 but doable

What?
You only need one summon for Demon and that is to keep one of the demons occupied while you kill the other.

Demon prince is easy af, much easier than the first phase because he is so telegraped. You can stand underneath his legs and most of his attacks will miss.
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>>172664912
>he himself doesn't have a "established lore/chain of events" in his head either.
Miyazaki's mind is convoluted confirmed
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>>172665771
Gael literally teleporting behind you coupled with the goofy design made it impossible for me to take him seriously
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>>172665881
yeah you can still WA L2 R1 but it wont do as much damage

still blocks everything from the front though
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>>172662087
I cleared the entire DLC on NG+7. Every hit took at least 2 or 3 estus to recover from, if they didn't outright kill me.

What say you now, you massive copy-pasting faggot?
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>>172665894
Crashing this dragon
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What is the golden humanity-like symbol next to some bonfires on warp screen? I don't think it was there before.
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>>172666051
Read your screen.
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Shhhh
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>>172666051
Players. Read the bottom of the warp select screen.
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>>172665914
the most dedicated DaS2 fanbase is on leddit
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>>172664152
I mean they're working on another successor so well probably just have another abbreviation added to the list if anything.
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>>172666051
They're active world quests like in WoW
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>>172666051
amount of player activity, the more symbols the more players active
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>Had a dream last night that I was playing some unholy combination of Dark Souls and a multiplayer survival game
>Found the ghost of a tiny little horse trapped in a fireplace
>Somehow know it's part of an NPC quest to rescue
>Some hollow nigger kills it anyway
>I take it's soul to the soul dealership
>Trade it in for a suit of what is basically Black Iron Armor with with a ring of hands around the back
>I can punch the shit out of things with them
>One has a pyro flame and another has a Dark Hand

Holy fuck that was rad as shit.
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>>172666051
online activity, you're more likely to invade or be summoned
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>>172661978

Of course
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WHAT

WAS

THE

PROFANED

FLAME
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>>172666141
aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172664145
>>172665324
>>172665492
Well its JUST A GAME, fiction from s who wants to make $$$.
But what>>172664838 and >>172664454 is correct but I can only take it serious if you apply it to modern human behavior on important things and not on a game.
Are you twelve?
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>>172666268
WHAT

WAS

THE

DEEP
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>>172666268
An extremely annoying tracking fireball that catches your rolls.
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>>172666268
A sliver of Chaos

>>172666364
The abyss
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>>172665925
>needing to keep one occupied
>not realizing that one always acts as a caster, and one as a melee unit
>not realizing that the ignited one is always the melee one
>the only attack the caster ever does is the telegraphed as fuck poison explosion
Once you realize how it works, it's trivial. Took me a good amount of attempts to reach the second phase tbqh
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>>172664963

That ain't Fire he's using, nigga. Notice all the faces and skulls in the magic and on his cape? They seem to souls from his time as an executioner and beyond.
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what will from make next
a first person shooter?
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>>172666141
YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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I take it consuming strong souls makes you taller and bigger?

Gwyn and co. also were several times taller than you. What's the lore reason that you don't get bigger?
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>>172666489
Still hoping for a new Armored Core on PC
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>>172666489
a souls game

come on now
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>>172664401
Can you explain? I don't get it, I don't know much about the wall.

>>172664998
Some people don't believe in doing shit they don't care about, and saying shit they don't believe.

If I didn't care about this game, I wouldn't buy or play it, and I wouldn't be here. Don't be so transparent. It's a phase mindset most of you millennials will go through eventually and hopefully find some personality on the other side.

I know everyone's an armchair psychologist here, but as far as this is concerned I'm almost 100% certain that about 40% of the people are like who you quoted said, and another 20-30% are trying to fit in with secure personalities and values that will come out later with the remaining trying to fit in without any personality of their own.

>>172665256
I meant a tripfag we had in the /v/ DeS general. He used the name Biorr of the Twin Fangs. I used the name (no trip) Graverobber Blige. I liked to do friendly red phantom invasions or just act like a midstage boss, have a tough fight with the dude then let him kill me rather than drag it on by running and healing. To me the concept seemed to be wanting to give people a chance to be an enemy in someone else's game, and it's been contorted to an ego thing now, so much so that most people invading are scrubs that are twinked out. A good player can smash them with shit equipment time and time again.

>>172665491
I was Mr. Caestus as well for DS1. They were a ton of fun but very underpowered. It shocked people when they were struggling and a dude with no shield, two fist weapons was punching everything to death.

Good times. Remember the no pars guy? I beat him with Dragon Bone Fist uppercut, knocked him off the round arena into the lava.
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>>172666497
jesus fuck I can still hear those screams
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What's all this about Midir being unfair? After the initial attempt where I didn't know his attacks I beat him on my second try with a 40/40 longsword build.

Just hit him on the head, silly ashen goyims.
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>>172665404

What evil? >>172666034
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>>172664146
>Makes sense that the painter is related to Kaathe in a way then.

What
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>>172666438
yeah but constantly evading that tocix burst attack is annoying and occasionally Demon in pain will go into melee mode at the same time so you have to deal with both.
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>>172666268
The part of the old chaos used to make the cucks that developed this game
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>>172666489
probably a new armored core
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>tfw you will never sniff midirs crotch while he wrecks scrubs
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>>172666304
Who's the 12yo kid, the one who cares about the things he enjoyes and takes them seriously or the one who goes on an internet imageboard for a specific game he doesn't care about to shitpost?
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>>172666656
Once they are both in melee form, you can just keep running away for 15 seconds or so, the one switches back to caster
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>>172666534

Humans are the descendants of the Furtive Pygmy, they're small. But then Quelaana and Ciaran were small, too. Then some tall guys were taller than other tall guys, like King Vendrick. And some giants are really fucking huge and others are just kinda big.

The real reason is that FROM has no consistency and can't think of any way to make something cool or intimidating other than making it bigger and bigger, and they feel like they always have to one up themselves.
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>>172666489
>>172666604
I know, her screams are my favorite
Better than cleric beast
Probably better than Ludwig
Idk about orphan though, when orphan cries you can hear some human in there and it's great
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>>172666615
Longsword felt inadequate for a big guy like him so I used a Claymore on a 40/40 build.
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>>172666615
Half of neo-dsg secretly hides behind shields and summons phantoms to carry them through levels. The other half enjoyed the dlc.
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>>172666489
100% another souls game.
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>>172663945

Huh.... interesting. Makes me want to try playing around with it just for shits and giggles since I have a backup save and can respec infinitely.

No idea if it'll work but on my SL130 I'm gonna try getting as much damage as humanly possible out of dark blade on mad king crux, guess I'll try for 66 STR 60 FAI if possible I haven't run the number yet from the points I'll save from having just 12 END, then try it out in invasions and arena.
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So we have to wait till E3 for info on what From is working on next? Should be interesting, although people are going to be unbearable if it's not a souls styled game.
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>>172666268
it's fan fiction since my PC can't use any magic flame spells
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>>172666489
Another PS4 exclusive, if we're to believe to yesterday rumors. :^)
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>>172666268
Either a volcano or a meteor.

>>172666364
A cult theory based upon the vision of a new age.
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>>172666571
>>172666740

I'm just hoping for them to make an Armored Core that doesn't suck like the last few.
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>>172666489
the info we have on the 3 projects from is working on:

1:first-person soulslike (likely KFV)
2:AC reboot
3:????
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>>172666268
Flames coming directly from the Sun. More like really intense UV
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How much do you think the sound designers get paid to screech? Do they even do it themselves or do they just edit shit really well.
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>this one guy desperately trying to weird us out with his Midir sex talk
You are small time, anon.
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>>172666841
For a what?
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>>172665876
his slam down knocked me down, and I was stuck laying on it
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>>172666141
what can she be dreaming of?
>>
Can anyone give me an optimal Anri's SS build? I fell in love with it at launch and want to get back into the game with it.
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>>172666797
Or how Artorias' sword Sif fights with is way bigger than what Artorias actually uses in the DLC.

>>172666934
So it was the Abyss just thought of and utilized differently?

>>172667023
If I hit him in the head, will he die?
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What a fucking cunt.
She was nearly dead, kickflipped off the cliff and didn't even have the courtesy to take any fucking fall damage.
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>>172667062
>falling in love with the most generic weapon in the game
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>>172666604
Honestly I don't find her anywhere near as memorable as other people. Every play through she ends up being a total chump for me.
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>>172666617
The Dark Soul. aka. the little, less bright (dark), flame that was left for the furtive pygmy.
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>>172664320

Freide probably had her do it to keep her busy.
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How does the bew covenant works ? Is there something I should not make ?
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>>172666489
A new souls-like game exclusively for Xbox One *And Windows 10
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>>172667062
How long till /v/ leaves. You get 40 points in Luck and put the rest of the points wherever, fuck.
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>>172667146
It would be mildly painful
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>>172667149
It's because it brings back DeS memories. I had a Blueblood build.>>172667156
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Midir is a fucking awful boss.

Takes 5 minutes to get 1/8th of his health down, then he fucking one shots you.

Whoever designed this piece of shit deserves to be fucking shot.
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>>172667146
It would do extreme damage
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>>172667147
Now she's just standing there like the dumbest fucking bimbo.
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R
S

>>172666585
>Remember the no pars guy?
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>>172664665
Yeah armored core threads have been around even when their were long stretches of no games
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>>172667319
>>172667362
He's a big dragon.
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Collage dude here? Anons, rate my fashion.
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>tfw never played a FROM game besides the Souls series

Are any of the Armored Core/King's Field games particularly worth playing?
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>>172667019
>one
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>>172667184

But it's not evil, anon.
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>>172667237
That will get canceled just before release.
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>>172667347
Ignore that mention at the end, I'm on mobile at the moment and have fat thumbs.
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>>172666996
fastroll and take your time
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>>172667485
>caestus
Into the trash.
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>>172667454
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>>172667467
U_U_U_U
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>>172667401
She's checking out that THICC Harald ass.
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>>172664754
Are you serious? I've literally made it to Friede boss fight on my sl 23 in like 20 minutes or less.
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>>172665771
Sad!
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>>172664549

>Venom Snake
>Not Sundowner

I bet you don't even want to give war a chance.
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>>172667019
Pretty sure most of the people here have weirder fetishes anyways.
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Thoughts? Heavy Splitleaf has super high AR for minimum equip stats, and darkmoon will add a shit ton of damage.
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>>172667454
weak pars buddeh
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>>172667551
It is integral part.
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>>172667629
What a whore.
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>>172667467
For you
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>>172667353
whats your damage output like?
what weapon are using?
build?
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>>172663385
It gets worse the more I look at it
>42/42 faith/int
>10 attunement
>>
>new Kobra's vid
>some guy with twin UGS hit him with L1
>he roll away
TRUE COMBO right?
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>>172666841
He is large.

I wonder if it would be possible to get a comparison of his model to Kalameet's/Seath's, he looks twice as big as Kalameet to me.
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>>172664940
I find it easier with only 2 people and much harder with 4
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>>172667517
Name one (1) xbox game that looked good before it got cancelled. Scalebound looked like shit btw.
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>>172667680
No stamina to actually spin the thing.
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>>172664754
The secret is just running
>>
r8 my fan fiction:

https://jundsgameideas.tumblr.com/post/158932624936/how-id-have-ended-dark-souls-iiis-last-dlc-the
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>>172667680
Why both Sunlight Spear and Lightning Arrow?
Otherwise pretty good faith build.
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>>172667698
4chin fucking up my aestethic posts.
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>>172667949
>Jundsga-
No
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>>172667019
>he doesnt want to fuck midir
kys fag
>>
time traveling Sulyvahn should have been the final boss
>>
Has anyone tried to kill the angel that spawns after the Hag at the beginning dies?
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>>172667965
Sunlight spear is for huge damage burst at close range.
Lightning arrow is bread and butter range harassment.

One takes 19 FP, the other takes 48.

Use your head Anon.
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>>172667789
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>>172665787
People always forget that the dark soul was there too with the other lord souls
>>
>don't like invading near archers because that's just admitting that you want free embers without having to actually do anything for them
>let's tunr the tables
>pop dried finger and seed, use a young white branch
>sit and wait, alt+tab to /dsg/
>invaded
>instantly returns home
>invaded
>instantly returns home
Christ, I suppose I shouldn't expect any better of the people that would invade here.
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>>172666756
:,(
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I can't take From's bullshit pvp seriously anymore and see no way to have actual fun with it for the life of me but I also can't just drop the game again just yet because it means Dark Souls is forever over for me. What the fuck do I do?
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>>172667886
NAME ONE BUT NOT ONE ALSO LET ME QUALIFY IT WITH PERSONAL OPINION

well, there's a time waster. Typical Xbot guys.WHERES DA PYRO GLOVE?
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>>172667665
That's what I mean. It's sad that they just keep trying to push it, like it's some cutting edge new form of shitposting.
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>>172667501
But man is. That's why Gwyn went through such lengths to preserve his world and tried to contain it.
The pygmy absorbed the soul, and split it. Evil was attached to each portion of the soul.
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>>172668271

Play something else so you're not burnt out for the next one.

Souls hasn't been completely milked yet, somebody will continue it whether it's From or some outsourced Namco contract.
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>>172667680

You get 599 AR at 66 STR when 2 handing it, you might as well just dump into STR for pure physical damage. Also who the fucking hell goes to SL133
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>>172668271
Play some of the games inspired by Dark Souls?

Hollow Knight is pretty good. Salt and Sanctuary past the character art is pretty decent.
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I think yuka kitamura is really good at what she does but I feel its best if she only does a select few songs. when every song is epic and grandiose it kind of loses the punch.

I really miss the quiet music of demon souls.
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>>172667539
it was good til humanity cancer rockets tracked me down.
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>>172668051
Nah, Sorcerer Sulyvahn summon
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>>172668051
>time traveling sully
Is there anything /ourguy/ CAN'T do?
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>>172667487
AC 1 and 2 are PS1-era generations and aged poorly. They're a historical curiosity that might interest you if you have the patience for an emulator and clunky control schemes
AC3s series are PS2-era and pretty solid for old mecha games. Silent Line is widely considered the weakest while Last Raven is considered the strongest. All the AC3-era games share some degree of continuity save for that one weird multiplayer-based one.

Bear in mind the story in all of these games is similarly vague like a souls game but told with early 2000s-era translations, which is to say that the english is borderline incomprehensible more than half the time.

AC4 and 4A changed the series a lot and purists hate them because of it. They play much more 'modern' and are easier to control, while also being faster-paced and more action-oriented, including what is essentially a dodge button. If you've played Bloodborne you'll find the flow of gameplay oddly familiar. These were both directed by Miyazaki and it shows. It's worth noting that despite the vague storytelling and terrible translation, 4 and 4A have by far the best plot of the series, and like souls games it's entirely miss-able if you don't pay attention to subtle cues and ask the right questions. They share a direct plot continuity, meaning much of the mysteries in 4 won't make sense until you learn the additional context provided by 4A.

V and VD try to maintain some of the modern concessions of 4 and 4A while also slowing the game down and trying to bring it back to its more tactical roots. V is questionably unsuccessful in this compromise and is quite mediocre. VD does a little better but also takes an explicit multiplayer focus and the servers are a ghost town.

Note that all of these games are very short. Outside of the time spent fiddling with massive spreadsheets of poorly-explained stats, the singleplayer plays out through a sequence of brief missions and it only takes a few hours to blast through all of them.
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>>172668271
Welcome to The NHK was such a disappointing show.
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>>172666206
H-how do i complete this quest ?
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Anyone got any decent sorcerer fashion?
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>>172668271
Use OP builds.
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>>172668452
theyre so easy to dodge wtf are you doing
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>get invaded in Lothric Castle literally for the first time in the 320 or so hours I've played DS3
>guy tries to anime me with Gael's sword thinking I haven't seen that shit before
>just move
That shit is exactly one free back stab.

Another while I'm feeling green
>summoned for the Dancer
>guy walks in, gets grabbed
>does around 700 damage
>he dies
700 HP. And I'm already over-leveled for this shit. I hope I see him again in TRC.
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>>172667485
you're standing off to the side and will get your left arm cut off
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>>172668475
Take out a pile of ashes.
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>>172668553
i didn't fucking see them because they came from behind as i followed this shitter lizard.
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>>172668475
act
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>>172667146
>utilized differently
Yes. Just like many religion's different perception on the end.
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>>172668452
Walk backwards as they rise and start to come towards you, then roll to the side as they come in to attack.
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>>172668530
It's one of my favorite anime. The only part I didn't like was the small arc about the pyramid scheme, the rest was top notch. Not the same Anon by the way.
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>>172661710
Do I need dark clutch ring, witch ring, sunborn ring and dragon ring to boost all my dark magic on my hex character, or is dark clutch enough on itself?
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>last played months ago
>forgot that I haven't progressed far enough in my NG+ save to have access to the ringed city
>have to go through Ashes of Ariandel and beat the boss just to play it

this is not how I planned my Friday evening
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>>172666571
>>172666969
Ac needs to be cross platform. The games die too fast when theres less players spread out
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>>172667019
>one

this is dragon central anon
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>>172667487
King's field games are worth playing. you wont find the super tight combat or or bosses of souls but the exploration and world design is largely the same.

also the souls style of storytelling originated there.
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Well that's done with, time to finally try the DLCs.
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>>172668752
You didn't plan on having fun?
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>>172666438
No you retard, they can both switch between one or the other at will. It just comes down to whether one that isn't on fire decides to light up, and whether or not one that's already on fire decides to try to do the flaming hand slam.

You can easily end up fighting two lighted-up ones (in which case just play passive until one does the hand slam), or two toxic ones (just go ham on the one you don't want to turn into the Demon Prince).
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Why is invading in this game so fucking awful?
Why did they have to ruin it? was it because those redditfags all complained about OP invaders?

God I fucking wish they'd disable summons if the host was invaded. Fuck Miyazaki.
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Is there any software that I can use to create a savefile?
Not to play online of course.
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>>172667848
Were any of you anons hoping for a crazy fuckhuge dragon since DeS?
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It took a year but faith PvP is finally fun and viable due to Spears covenant.

Admittedly you can also succeed by just spamming any sweeping weapon, but at least that's not the only option.
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>>172667886
Gotta have exclusives to cancel. No risk, no cancel. Nice safe casual shooters sell well there.
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>>172668475
bring the age of deep
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>>172668841
heh, kid...
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>>172668148
since you're using a shield I'd say go for the black knight shield. its blocks his fire and has good stability.


stack as much fire defense as you can. you could use flash sweat but I feel it won't do good since its only 30 seconds.

what attacks are killing you?
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Is the Repeating crossbow any good?
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>>172668754

Cross-platform just isn't going to happen. They should just drop Xbone and force those retards into one of the more sensible options.
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>>172667848
I'm sure there's a way
>>172668114
Nothing happens
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>>172668443
I heard a part of Gundyr's theme I've never heard before today, because the fight dragged on for so long. Not really related to your post, but I just wanted to share.
As long as there is a recurring motif or something that pops right out that makes me think "Oh yeah, THAT boss", I'm fine with everything being epic and grandiose. Vordt's second phase, or Greatwood in the pit for example. That shit is great.
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I'm making a Black Knight build for fun invasions, not serious ones.

Anyone on PS4 mind giving me a spare set?
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>>172667848
felt like the dragon god fight that we deserved.
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>>172669031
>tfw use some boss soundtracks as workout music
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>>172668883
Collector's Edition.
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>>172668751
pvp or pve?
if pvp you can drop the dark clutch ring
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>>172668530

I liked it, especially that even the girl that magically fell from heaven did not manage to fix him.
Manga and book are both a bit different I think. And more harsh.
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>>172669068
I can spare a pair of pants if you need it
what password and location?
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>>172668856
This
I spent like 3 hours invading at cathedral today, and it was a fucking disaster
Half of hosts had a lmao2GS scaled phantom, and were way of the blue babbies which summoned a blue faggot with fallen knight armor, every time without fail
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>>172668051
Should've had patches be the hidden final boss after his lapp questline it would've gave contrast to geal who gave up and wanted his lady to make a new world to run away to, opposed to patches who has been moving forward all this time throughout the ages.

After finding Gael he charges at you only to get backstabbed by patches, then you fight patches with dark souls power who tells you that man must be unbreakable and keep moving forward even at the end of the world because that's just how we are
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Need some GOD-TIER TRC wallpapers, any suggestion?
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Who would you rather sit on you
midir or kalameet?
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>>172668787
Aye. There's many of us.
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>get summoned as spear of the church
>host and his two buttbuddys
>kill host
>point down
>A CONNECTION ERROR OCURRED

Hilarious. Who cares about ornaments, salt is better.
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>>172668989
its fucking trash, memeworthy at best
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I want Karla to sit on me

but I'm a weirdo
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>>172669296
Elfriede
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>>172668989
What do you think anon?
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>>172668956
>>what attacks are killing you?
I dont know man, I'm just failing to dodge properly.

I know his moves, but since the camera is so fucked up when you're underneath him, its almost impossible to tell what attack hes going to do. Then he does that fucking aoe fire before I even know its happening and cant get far enough away in time.
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>>172669296
Kalameet by far.
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>>172668856
the only problem is the seed not having downsides
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>>172669296
I want to sit on Midir
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>>172668752

You can run straight to the lever for Friede quite quickly

Then just summon Gael for her fight
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>>172669341

I had a match earlier where I got to nail a host with the Crucifix roar and then actually managed to kill him with the curse, was hilarious.

Just wailing on challengers with an exploding skull that screams. People have no idea what the fuck it does.
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>>172669176
What?
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Anyone have Black Knight stuff? Armor/weapons/shield?

>>172669236
Can you meet me at High Wall? Password is:
hyena
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>>172669031
funnily enough sakuraba did the greatwoods and vordts theme.
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What's some comfy armor to wear in the cold snowy Painted World?

I was going to use Faraam but the physics on the coat are retarded and the shit flies everywhere.
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>>172669068
No black Knight weapons are too rare
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>>172669272
the nice tower we didn't get to explore
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>>172669445

>ywn karla's and zullie's semen producing machine because they need it as sacrifice for their magic rituals
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>>172669257

What SL? Generally as long as you invade at SL70 +8 or below invading is generally pretty great most of the time, very few seeds. Always keep a millwood GB and obscuring ring on you, even the worst gankers can be trolled for your own amusement.

SL35 +4 to 50 +6 are a ton of fun too. I'm forced to invade at meta level for the DLC2 areas and yes I agree it's fucking cancer, wish I could invade at a lower level in the new places.
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>>172669621
Drang armor
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>>172669462
>but since the camera is so fucked up when you're underneath him
It's almost like you should not be underneath him
I swear to god almost ever host I get fucking insists on running underneath him tickling his legs.
And they never fucking learn. Not once.
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>>172669621
I'm personally a fan of the Follower Armor and gloves with Northern or Millwood leggings.
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>>172669725
We need a fucking PSA to people complaining about Midir.

STOP STANDING UNDERNEATH HIM
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>>172669613
Oh. Well, bugger me then.
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>>172669682
SL40 with +4 weapon
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>>172669783
I'm standing to the left of his head and I can't do jack shit to him.

I need to be perfect every moment in the fight. He needs one moment.
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>>172669395
I heard with exploding bolts its ok, is that true?
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>>172668890
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>>172669495
seed shouldn't exist in the game. it should literally just be deleted, i don't even have a problem with summoner class hosts as long as i'm allowed to potentially drag them through every mob in the level, no matter how overleveled their phantoms.

but seed? i can't troll people who use seed. i have no where to retreat to when seed is used. i don't invade people so i can waste half of my estus "helping" them to kill mobs. fuck that shit. just delete seed from the game and i'd have so much more fun, instead i'm forced to consider seeds as a D/C win for me and crystal out because people are pussies and miyazaki doesn't give a fuck 'cause he's a nip jew.
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>>172663385
Jesus anon its gonna take you another 1000 tries woth a build like that -1/10. Go respec to this: 30 INT 15 FTH 18 ATT and then dump every single other point you have into VIG/END proritizing HP. Attune Pestilent Mercury and Tears of Denial, use chlothanry and ring of favor. Stack Dark/Physical/Fire resist, bring hp/mana, green blossom, and black bug pellets. Equip a witchtree branch/chime and a grass crest sheild and FFS stay under 70% equip load.
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>>172669725
>>172669783
Alright, I'll try fight him without standing underneath at all
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>pestilent mercury does 1500 damage to demon princes per cast
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This should be illegal. Also how do I deal with Frayed blade fags. Almost all of them are really reactive, I can't trade with them ever because somehow even with 45 Poise, and using WA my HA would get broken by their Downward slash WA. I take it due to headshot stuff. Also even if I side roll + r1, they always fucking roll away, even though it looks like that move has really high recovery.
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>>172668751
It's better to stick to one school, otherwise you'll be doing shit damage on a spell type already known for its shit damage.
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>>172669017
>>172667848
you can compare pics of the 2 side by side with the respective PC, but you need to lock their animation and free your camera for that
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>>172661978
Design wise, sure, he is the better one of the two geriatric final bosses.

Difficulty? Nope.

I do prefer Gael though, not everything is about how hard it is.
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So I quit about a month before the first DLC came out and am just considering coming back to play both of them now that Ringed City is out. I used the Exile Greatsword before it was the tryhard pick in vanilla (Unless they did something besides buff damage it still won't hit jack shit besides idiotic R1 spammers) so now I need a new signature weapon to use. Is the Splitleaf Greatsword any good? I'm a huge fag for easy two/three hit combos.
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>>172669296

Seath.
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I just realised one thing about dragons. If they ever existed, considering their huge body, imagine them flying and their dick floating.
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>>172669992
So does Dohry's gnawng per 2 casts
Well, almost
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>>172670016
>sub 900 hp
>getting caught

Smells like scrub to me
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>>172669920
Seeds were introduced by the preemie entry to the series.
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>>172666032
>Getting hit in """""NG+7"""""
Lol forgive me if I don't believe you've even made it to NG+2.
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are blue berries the literal cucks of ds3?
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>>172669462
alright what you gotta do is stay in front of him at all times. the camera gets screwy if you go under him.
only go under when he's doing melee but after he's done get right up in front of him.

The aoe is fire is telegraphed by him standing straight up so pay attention to that. when you see him move like that haul ass out of there.

also hit his head as well.
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>it's faster to farm spear ornaments by reviving argo than it is to wait for argo to summon you
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>>172670016

Don't walk directly at them, don't roll backwards, and stay right on top of their dickholes. Gayed Blade is basically the new king of footsies without even trying due to the retarded weapon art combo, so don't play a spacing game, stay right on top of them and abuse their regular swings.
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>>172669937
Stay directly in front at all times. If you do get underneath him, which is unavoidable to be honest, unlock and get the fuck out of there as fast as you can, preferably to the side rather than towards the tail.
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>>172670214
how do you revive him?
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>>172664454
Why did you include that part? Obviously it's a game you autist that's particularly why it sucks when they slap you in the face for spending time on it.
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>>172670016
Dragonhead Shield is amazing at countering passive play. You spray them down and force them to either attack or roll if they didn't get put into hitstun, both of which you can punish.
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>>172669818

Oh.

Well if you can't handle low-level invasions you just haven't gotten gud yet. That's literally just on you.
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SCANS WHEN ?
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>>172670278
Velka statue or purging monument. Make sure to unequip the spear covenant or you won't get shit for it, though.
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>>172669783
What the fug? Underneath him is the safest place in that entire arena. You just need to react to him standing up to shit fire.
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>>172670016

>removing toggling was fine
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>>172670378
Is there a good build for that demon hammer? Isn't the WA fire?
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>>172670138
>tfw when telling a faith user who's struggling on demon prince to use it but she refuses and only spams lightning spears
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>>172670378
are the design works books worth buying?
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>>172670179
yes

forever and always
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>>172670138
you deal 1500 damage with 2 dorhy gnawing casts?
the bleed barely does 700 and that's in NG
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlqMrTcxBos

time for real pvp boys
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>>172670373
Not him, what's a fun 35+4 invasion build?
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>>172670129
I'd be more concerned with what they could do up close and not up in the air.
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>>172669621
Exile
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>>172670016
>This should be illegal.

Honestly that guy in the webm was just a shitty player, let's be real here.
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>NG+ 80SL
>summoned Gael and Lapp for demons
>thought I made big mistake
>but they actually turns fight into cakewalk
Unexpected
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>>172670525
They're pretty nice, but you should wait for the English version. They're usually released in the West a year or so after they're out in Japan.
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Best way to farm embers?
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>>172670257
So use RKSS and just stay on top of them and dodge right/left and spam r1? Also that weapon art is really gay since those quick attacks literally fucking change direction so rolling beside them isn't helpful.

>>172670328
I can't spare int/fth points desu. I think, anyone help me with build? https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/160093
I like to spam those WA that's why high ATT.

>>172670680
Yeah but the combo doing 700-800 damage is also retarded. Just like every weapon in DLC.
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The fucking power you have as the church boss is funny as hell. Weird that they had the balls to do this when they nerfed invasion phantoms a lot. Maybe it means that the people that are left on the dark souls 3 team had more freedom or whatever.
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>Statues of serpents in lothric have them with wings
>Serpent status in the ringed city have them looking basically like snails with no shells and long necks
>in the ringed city the serpent statues are next to silver knights

why in the fuck
nothing makes sense
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>>172670104
>Is the Splitleaf Greatsword any good?
With 66 STR it has 599 AR when 2 handed at +10. As a glaive. Which can also be buffed.

Need I say more?
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>>172670378

The artbook is about as thick as DaS & DaS2 artbooks combined. Scanning the DaS2 was a huge project already. They should make a digital version available for easy distribution.
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>>172661935

lordran/drangelic/lothric have been illusory lands since even the first game, specifically described as the land of the gods, and DaS2 directly hints at it multiple times in the intro trailer:

>Perhaps you've seen it, maybe in a dream.

it even shows you entering into the land of the gods magically, via a dream tree located within a pile of ruined rubble

what happened with filianore is that you straight out shattered the illusory land of the gods that her corpses memory was holding together, and revealed the reality: that it's been completely dead to the point of ashen ruin for millenia. This is likely the aspect that beings such as seath and aldia stumbled upon in their research, which drove them into their various forms of madness. The realization that the very world you've been living in isn't even physical, and the actual place the fake reality is modeled on is an ashen void of nothing.

yes, this means DaS2 is 100% canon.
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Is it safe to give myself respecs with CE?
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>try smacking the windmills in Earthen Peak with torches and pyromancy
>nothing
Yeah, no, that's fine...
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>>172670859
>snails with no shells
Thats called a slug anon
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>>172670583
wouldn't higher NGs mean higher damage though?
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>>172670328
How's the great shield version
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>>172670834
invade at angel place, ive made over 100 just since the dlc released
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>>172670936
ah fuck you're right
I didn't think
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>>172666797

you realize that the pygmy that gwyn is addressing in his TRC statue is actually taller than him, right? the term pygmy has been deliberately meaningless even in DaS1, where the player would be taller than gwyn if he'd remembered to bring a pair of lifts for his shoes.
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>>172670892
Where did you have that pic ? Also, there is a digital version available on amazon.co.jp and some other Jap sites.
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>>172670402
and the slowest.
The longer the fight takes, he will win by attrition.

You stand in front of him, dodge his melee and hit his head.
Stop being a shitter, throw away that greatshield and learn to dodge!

Once you get into the rhythm of dodging his swipes it's the easiest, less frustrating and funnest way of fighting him.
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>>172671043
This
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>>172670525

They are, I have the Design Works Artbooks for 1 & 2. Only my DaS1 artbook is in English, but I don't regret getting the early Japanese version of 2's artbook. The interviews in the end of the book are nice, but I like the images the most. Already ordered the new artbook.
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>>172670780
>you can summon Gael and Lapp for the Demons
I didn't see their signs. Where were they?
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>>172662847

>You will never play Dark Souls 1 with all the cut content restored, covenants implemented properly, and working 60 FPS
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>>172667059

the world
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>>172661978
((((A E S T H E T I C))))lly gael is leagues above orphan but gael is harder since bloodborne is harder.
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>>172670465
28/40/40? Pyromancer with a bit of STR.

I had the best luck with it by meeting the minimum requirements for SL25 with Knights Ring and spare points in VIG/VIT/END, but that's probably because it's OP as fuck for that range. WA hyper armour forever, too.
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Can a lorefag tell me why Gael is a boss?
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>>172670978
yeah you're right, I forgot bleed is back to being percentage based
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>>172670849
The bar for boss difficulty in this DLC was set fairly high so they were allowed to allot more affordances to players serving as the pvp boss.

Bear in mind that as a spear you can't estus, which is a much bigger disadvantage than it seems. The only reason I win most of my spear fights is that I can generally cost the average host 3-5 flasks for every single hit they get against me. If they played even a little smarter and kept the margin for estus to hits a little better, they'd beat me even despite the huge difference in skill level.

The only critical aspect to that fight is the painting guards. If the host can't figure out how to kill those, he can't win. If he can kill them without dying then he just has to play kinda decently from then on out and draw the spear into an attrition battle
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>>172670586

He's crazy skilled in DaS PvP desu. Was watching that stream earlier today.
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>>172670843
If you're spamming WA, and I don't want to ever say this again, maybe use Farron ring?
>>172671019
Just use a different shield instead of it. Different WA and the WA is the only thing that makes it worth using as a unique zoning tool.
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since this is /dsg/ I might as well post this here
Vilhem's Helm + Fire Keeper's Robes = god-tier
too bad I spent all my respecs on NG+4 though
otherwise I would've been able to be a girl then
for now however, this set will have to make do
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Do rings +3 affect your invasion range?
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>>172670892
Source ? I haven't found such high res sample yet.
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>>172670886

Umbasa
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>>172671252
*orphan is harder
Ducking phone
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>>172670586
Did they fix parry BS or something? Why aren't they just chaining each other?
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>>172670373
I think he is referring to hosts that use a password to summon in lmao 2 ultra greatsword phantoms then drop the password. The main point of playing at that soul level is to force people to make tradeoffs. You wanna frayed blade at SL 40? Enjoy the dex ring and playing with base health/stamina. The scaled phantom part kinda ruins this.
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>>172670129
dragons don't have dicks retard
they lay eggs
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>>172671327
rings don't affect invasion range
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who /darkwraith but summons blue phantoms to help the when they get invaded by other people/ here?
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>decide to fight spears of the church
>they all die to one twin greatsword l1 combo

What is wrong with this weapon..
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>>172671413
it's avoidable if you're not shit.
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>>172671079
>>172671328

It's from here: https://www.amazon.co.jp/DARK-SOULS-III-DESIGN-WORKS/dp/4047331945

Check the free samples.
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>>172671308
That's what usually goes in my 4th ring slot . . when I'm not invading. The WA just looks to cool to not use all the time, and as you can see 40 poise, so I can HA trade with WA against GS user (most of the time)
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>>172670859

they also have a secret altar where you could address the serpents directly, midir is fought in the cavern where at least one primordial serpent lived.
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where did future patches go? he just kicked me down and walked away.
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Came back since DLC is out now. Is dark sword still OP? What's the most OP PvE weapon I can use to rush through the rest of the game with (did everything up to irithyl in a few hours today).
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>>172671430
Nigger how are the eggs being fertilized
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>>172671542
I hope you got a good look at him.
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>>172670214
It follows similar rules to other autosummon covenants, refreshing your covenant from time to time by taking it out and putting it back on makes you get summoned faster. I got darkmoon in 2-3 days that way. Argo summons me really often too.
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>>172671090

>throw away the greatshield

nigga greatshields are rediculously good at what they do, he just needs to walk backwards during the attacks instead of standing underneath him
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>>172671175
Gael in right corner.
Lapp straight after bonfire. For Lapp you should progress through his quest in this area I think
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>Searching for a world to invade...
>Invasion aborted due to time out

>Invading world as dark spirit!
>A connection error occurred. Returning to your world

There are literal babies playing this DLC holy christ. I was able to invade all the time yesterday, now It takes 5-10 mins to find a host that doesn't immediately pul the plug.
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>>172671482
Avoiding it has nothing to do with being good.
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>>172671620
idk ask snakes
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>>172670780
Honestly, as long as you don't get hit by the Demon Prince grab, you should be fine.

That attack does literally all of your HP in NG+ onward, even at 40 Vigor.
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>>172670849
Using full faith build with crucifix and healing miracles feels almost unfrair as a spear.
Fuck, filianore chime's WA stays even if you swap it to something, so you can technically achieve constant good regen
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>>172671759
That or people with 2 Phantoms with Twin GS and Twin Shield and either one of them also has CSS, and other Soothing Sunlight.
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>>172671793
if you're not shit you probably know how to avoid it already
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>>172671262
Because he searching for dark soul until world end. You and him are basically last live beings
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>>172671541
>midir is fought in the cavern where at least one primordial serpent lived
lolwat?
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>>172670907

this is canonically how the player character enters into drangleic, drangleic being a place within the dark souls 3 physical world, ie THEY ARE IN THE SAME WORLD

lordran and lothric are DREAM WORLDS

fondling filianore's ball destroys the dream.
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>>172671430
>dragons don't have dicks retard

then how are dragon dildos a thing?
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Whats the ar of 2hand gaels blade with 40/40?
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>>172672048
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3
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>>172671978

did you not notice the fucking giant hole you drop down that was right behind the fucking altar?

it was a snekk hole.
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>>172669992
Good luck keeping those guys stay put.
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is 120 really too high for spears?
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>>172671876
What happens after that? Is SoC canonically the final fight?
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>>172671810
Snakes have dicks
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>>172671296
>The only critical aspect to that fight is the painting guards.

This. The guards are designed as a perfect foil to the Spear of the Church. They're annoyingly agile and strike quickly, stunlocking hosts with their dagger, or even at range with their shivvs, and can heal themselves and the boss. As long as they're alive the Spear of the Church has a strong advantage, but as soon as they're gone the playing field is tilted to the host. Mechanically at least.
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>>172671987
>fondling filianore's ball destroys the dream.
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>>172671994
tumblrs will pay for anything, a majority of furfags who think they are dragons are female, they still have a natural want to be dicked.
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Midir is like Hotdog fight in cursed CD but more wild. If you beat dog using stake or beast claws you know what i talking about.
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>only 1/67 hosts have been roleplaying an ingame npc today
baka desu senpai
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>>172671252
Gael looks fucking silly
The character designer saw Senator Armstrong, asked themselves "what if santa claus looked like this?" And then put the doodle they made for fun in dark souls
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>>172671686
but he'll never get good if he turtles.

The first step at becoming good at dark souls is to stop equipping a shield.
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>>172672243
Again, if snakes have dicks, why wouldn't dragons?
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>>172671860
Funny because the guy you linked isn't able to avoid the parry bs at 32:12.
This means he's shit;^)
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>>172672318

Senator Armstrong would be a better enemy.
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DLC ending explained to all non-lorefags

When you touch Filianore's egg, the city moves forward in time evidenced by it being in ruins and covered in ashes. Filianore was most likely tasked to keep the Ringed City completely isolated and to last forever. When you get to Gael, you and Gael are most likely the only humans left on the universe. Gael seems to have gained a reputation on his murdering spree too, because the Pygmy King (the one crawling) recognizes him as "the red hood".

Gael needs to get the blood of the Dark Soul so the painter can create a new world for humans in Ariandel (because the Dark Soul is the source of humanity). He found out the Pygmies blood had dried up when he came to the Ringed City, so his only option was to consume the Dark Soul to make his blood the Blood of the Dark Soul, which resides in humanity found in humans. This is why he has killed all of them and also why he attacks you. Then you kill Gael and give the Blood of the Dark Soul to the painter.

>Why is there a single Ringed Knight next to the Gael bonfire?
Either Gael hasn't had the time to kill him yet or he isn't human. If he isn't a human, he's a hollow who has no humanity -> no part of the Dark Soul.

>How did Shira travel in time?
Shira says she is the "daughter of the Duke". This might be Seath or some other royalty, but she is related to either dragons or gods anyways, which would make her immune to aging. I'd say the fact that Shira's set can be found in the past is just a gameplay feature, as the past should not exist.

>How did Gael get there?
Gael just lived his life outside and came because you destroyed the city's defences. From the point of view of someone outside the city, it just was just suddenly destroyed.
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>>172671987
>fondling filianore's ball destroys the dream.
getting a bit personal there Anon
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>>172661710
Why is Midir so cute /dsg/?
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>>172672465
Senator Armstrong is also from a much better game.
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>>172671296
>The only critical aspect to that fight is the painting guards. If the host can't figure out how to kill those, he can't win.

this. when I spear I always let them fight the first painting guardian on their own, and it's hilarious how many people get fucking destroyed by it.

I can't even kill the painting guardians. I only beat the boss because the guy who speared me came in afk, and I let patches smack him around while I got my ass handed to me by the guardian.
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>>172670214
>no point in doing this anyway because the covenant rewards only matter when you're taking part in the covenant
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>>172672282
Never done a cursed dungeon but I kind of get it.
I really should get back to BB but I just can't stop sucking Midir's dick and by sucking his dick I mean charge R2'ing his face off.
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>>172671987
the entire dark souls universe is a dream world anon, KF is canon.

i suppose those two could be dreams within dreams though.
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>>172672227
SoC is final boss, yeah. Gael just guide us so we can kill himself and bring pigment to painter. He's not unkindled after all. Dark souls turns him mad.
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>>172661710
>tfw no soulsborne game anytime soon where magic isnt shit or awful to use
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>>172669296
Midir
Any other answer is shit taste and you cannot refute that.
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>>172662847
>poison and toxic will never be useful again
>miracles will forever cost too much FP and be gimped in terms of damage
>hex catalysts will always be shit
>99% of the catalysts in the game are always going to be fucking retardedly pointless
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>>172672554
>Pygmy King (the one crawling) recognizes him as "the red hood".
I wonder how he could've done a thing like that.
Maybe it's because he was wearing a red hood.

also
>people STILL think the final boss is in the future when NO ONE has been able to explain why it looks like something in the past that shouldn't exist anymore if this was true
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>>172672573
Senator Armstrong would also break the Ashen One and his Co-Operates in two . . . . . with is bare hands.
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>>172668271

Just do gayass honor duels and suicide off the platform if people bring out cancer shit.
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>>172672364

that's a flawed statement. I shit all over these games yet still use shields because I find them exponentially more enjoyable, I find dodging makes the game exponentially easier and removes the stamina management that shield builds require. ESPECIALLY IN DAS3

dodging requires literally no fucking skill in DaS3, I'd even call it the shitter playstyle in this game, there are ZERO damage frames between rolls, you just fucking spam roll and you are free to go.
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>>172668393
>Play something else so you're not burnt out for the next one.
He doesnt know that this was the last souls game xD
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>>172672568
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>try arena
>nothing but passivefags that either turtle or just attack when trading with their HA

fugg, any tips on how to deal with passivefags effectively? i could try invading instead but that ussualy gets me ganks only
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>>172672369
Because we can see and know snakes. Snakes are a real thing, verifiable and understood. Dragons are imaginary, and thus could have only vaginas which both excrete semen and intake semen to fertilize eggs from each other, and they mate by scissoring. It is imaginary, and thus stupid to debate.

>>172672948
So was KF4.
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>>172671651
Huh
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>>172672918
>dodging requires literally no fucking skill in DaS3
>timing your B/O presses takes no skill where as holding LB/L1 does

lol?
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>>172672828
>looks like something in the past that shouldn't exist anymore if this was true
What do you mean?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWxnX5J_e0k#

How do you do this? Whenever I try I don't get any curves or whatever is happening here. I heard this gives them better tracking but I can't get it to work it seems.
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>>172673016
I NEED THIS!
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>>172670859

One is Frampt; Lothric, the God's Capital
One is Kaathe; TRC, the Pygmies'
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>>172672828
>I wonder how he could've done a thing like that. Maybe it's because he was wearing a red hood.
Yes, I assume that's how he got the name. You don't use "the" on some unknown person.

>people STILL think the final boss is in the future when NO ONE has been able to explain why it looks like something in the past that shouldn't exist anymore if this was true
I genuinely don't know what you mean. How does it look like something in the past?
Also, it isn't in the future if my post is correct, but in the present.
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>>172668546

So I've found the best way to do sorcerer looks is to do a hybrid "light armor plus robe or robe-esque" piece with a fancy headdress or full on complete set as you find it in-game. My personal go-to for spellslingers since DS1 has been firekeepers/dingy + bandit in various combinations. My favorite is still bandit leggings and bracers plus dingy top and the dusk crown.
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>>172672554
>so the painter can create a new world for humans in Ariandel (because the Dark Soul is the source of humanity)
doesn't explain who the painter is, and why that painting would survive the end of the world, ariandel is rotting
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>>172673097
I never played the last DLC until just recently

what is the point of the parting flame?
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>>172673068
He's gone, anon. You fell for his last ruse and now he's walked out of your life.
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>>172672719

yes but people refuse to accept that the entire game basically takes place within the corpse of filianore's memory.

>>172672828

the dreg heap wasn't a natural phenomenon, it was archtrees within filianore's dream world crumbling. the final boss takes place in the actual no-shot real world that the memory is replicating.

and to answer the question of how gael can exist in both aspects, the answer is that dark souls memories induce time travel shenanigans, ie you were interacting with actual real people who once existed so gael could have just existed naturally in the past, therefore taking the long way through, and time travel never makes sense anyway I aint gotta explain shit.
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>>172673016
I want to pet him.
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>>172671597
heavy exile GS
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>>172673064
>So was KF4
You might as well call Dark Maus a souls sequel then since they are not related to each other in the slightest.
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>>172673089
Final boss map is straight from the beginning of DS3. You go to the future to get to the dreg heap where Lothric and Anor Londo are in the heap like everything else. The final map not only depicts something like something that chronologically comes earlier AND shows live pilgrims, but it adds Lothric Castle to the view which is now a-ok. The only way you can get back to that map is to go back in time from the end.
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>>172672828
>>people STILL think the final boss is in the future when NO ONE has been able to explain why it looks like something in the past that shouldn't exist anymore if this was true

What? What do you mean it looks like something in the past? It looks to me like the Ringed City, but buried under dunes of ash, because that's all that's left after aeons of burning the world to keep the First Flame going.

If it was the Age of Ancients there wouldn't be Ringed City ruins around.
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>>172673195
Ariandel was rotting, but you set it in fire, which to my understanding is is the same thing as linking the flame outside the painting. The painter's identity and methods are unknown, nut the painting a new world thing is explicitly stated.
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what's the best SL for a spear boss build?
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Why is the Ashen One a chestlet?
I thought heroes were supposed to have heroic endowments
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>>172673174
To add to this, black hand armor + assassin legs and gloves looks pretty good for a sorc.
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>>172673085

dodging isn't a parry.

if you roll too early, you know what you do? you press the dodge button again. there are ZERO damage frames. you will not get hit. you will not take damage. on top of that, the stamina cost is so tiny as to be utterly meaningless.

meanwhile, you take a hit with a medium shield, you lose 1/3 to 1/2 of your stamina bar, take another 1-2 hits and you get guard broken, and take amplified counter damage

in dark souls 1 dodging was hard, this is not dark souls 1. dodging is braindead in this game.
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>>172673414
>RKPUGS
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>>172666847
>The other half enjoyed the dlc.
What about the people who thought the DLC was a complete joke? Old Hunters had far more memorable locations/boss fights. The only reason this dlc exists was to sell the +3 rings and justify the worthless season pass.
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>>172671542

you can summon him for spears and gael, he's upgraded his weapon set and is a beast.
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>>172673195
>who the painter is
Priscilla's daughter.
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>>172673334
Fuck, that's actually not BS
So why the fuck is it like this then
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Question for you guys:

What would you guys recommend I use to kill myself the quickest way possible after losing all will to live fighting Midir?
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How to counter Twin Greatshield aside from Alt+F4. I usually just roll around and wait for them to do charge, but holy hell it usually puts me distance away that I can't get a r1 in.
Most of the time I get lucky and kill them with Blood Barbed Sword but jesus. Also why the fuck do they deal so much damage.
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>>172673325
Yeah except for the whole you know fromsoft explicitly stating demon's souls was the successor to king's field and all.
Not to mention they are literally connected now.
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>>172672719
>the entire dark souls universe is a dream world anon, KF is canon.

What is the Lore of kf ? Whats the source of seath and the light god? How did they both die?

Why are there 4 lord souls if theres only two in kf
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I SHALL
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>>172672554
Ok, so why was the egg smashed already? I've heard some people say Gael was the one who smashed it, does that make sense at all? Is it being smashed its natural state?
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>tfw no Dark/Abyss Diving covenant in DS3

TRC was a perfect chance to add one, with its own PVE shit
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>>172673127
>>172673262
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>>172673016
:3
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>>172673650
I still don't buy this explanation. She looks nothing like Priscilla.

Priscilla had normal human skin, weird eyebrow ridges, and a furry tail.

The painter has ash-grey skin, long white hair, and no extra features like a tail or the head ridges. She looks more like fucking Agdayne than Priscilla.
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>>172670123
What is going on in this image?
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>>172673701
PRODUCE
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>profaned flame not explained
>serpents not explained
>deep not explained
>angels not explained
>gertrude not explained
>no velka or lloyd

wow, this was garbage
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>>172673334

that's because the final boss desert is the PRESENT.

the game takes place in a dream world that depicts the past. the dreg heap is that dream crumbling, in some capacity. it is not a natural occurrence, as you can see the real world is a very realistically flat, barren, wasteland

the pilgrims are travelling to the dream world of the gods because fire still exists there, and it will allow them to die.
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>>172673016
r34 when?
>>
So real Humanity or Gwyn?
Choose one.
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>>172673336
>What? What do you mean it looks like something in the past? It looks to me like the Ringed City, but buried under dunes of ash, because that's all that's left after aeons of burning the world to keep the First Flame going.

That's really what it implies

The Egg kept the Pygmy Kings at the end of time so that they couldn't spread the Abyss all over the place.

The plains of ash we see are just the remnants of the Age of Fire continuing to be Linked, and they're running out of shit to throw into it.
>>
has anyone worked out if placing a red sign outside the spear boss room increases your summon chances? seems like a placebo to me and just end up having to black crystal out when some host summons me
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>>172673759
LOOK AT HIM!
AHHHHHHHH
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>>172673759
>tfw ywn have a qt dragon pet.
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>>172673704
I honestly don't know. Maybe it's just breaking because of how long it has been. Shira tells you pretty clearly how you should not disturb Filianore, so she seems to be aware of how easily the egg can break.
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>>172673248
>archtrees
I didn't see any since ds1
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>>172673759
he is cute...
CUTE!
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>>172673657
pestilent mercury yourself with helium since you don't want to use it on midir
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Does anyone have any spare DLC items for complete noobs?
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>>172673654

this: >>172673863

the "land of the gods" is a physical manifestation of the past, as realized through the memory of the dead filianore. It's like the shit you fuck around in to beat DaS2.
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>>172673489
>you will not get hit. you will not take damage
Bullshit. I roll too early and get hit all the time. Sometimes I get hit mid-roll.

>dark souls 1 dodging was hard
Bullshit. I'll give you that there are indeed more i-frames in DS3, but pressing O when the bad man swings his weapon has never been hard to time. It's just easy to fuck up.
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>>172673831
After you beat boss you will see Priscilla's mummy.
And then you hear her dialogue about mother's words.
And don't forget about pyromancer Dunnel (Priscilla's area beyond illusion wall) and his "monstrous wife"

It's like 2+2
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>>172670907
There's also that illustration from the ds2 artbook that shows drangleic only visible in a reflection on that lake
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>>172674003

that's because they are under the world, they hold everything up. you see the stumps of them in the dreg heap. the trees are dying, which is what's causing the world to collapse into itself.
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>>172673831
The Painter also has serpent eyes
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>>172673910
you can set a random password so no one can see it
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do you think Faf-kun would have problems fighting Midir /dsg/ ?
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>mfw they intentionally made it so you can skip the entire poison swamp section
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>>172674003
>>172674274
They're also burning in Smouldering Lake.
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>>172673863
Do you have a single thing to back ANY of that up?
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>>172673759
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>>172674327
Does anybody really move their controller around like that playing a game?
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>>172674327
He would probably quit the game and get triggered at either the misrepresentation on dragons or that you have to murder a dragon
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>>172674348
?
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>>172674264
Hmm I'll have to look through that book now
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>>172673672
>Not to mention they are literally connected now
Except they're not. You might as well try to claim that Bloodborne shares teh same universe as Dark Souls just because a spider named Patches pushes you off a ledge. Idiot fanbois like you cannot tell the difference between canon and devs trying to milk the nostalgia train even at the expense of their own lore.
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>>172674224
>And don't forget about pyromancer Dunnel (Priscilla's area beyond illusion wall) and his "monstrous wife"
Some punk ass pyromancer got to smash Prissy until she popped out a baby and all she told you to do was walk off a plank. How do I keep on living?
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>>172674348
But anon the swamp is easy as it is anyway, it doesn't have the cancer poison like Farron swamp.
It really should have been the other way around
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>>172674327
>7 frames per second gif
>>>/tumblr/
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Midir is the reason why supersized bosses suck.
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>>172674303
didnt think of doing that, thanks
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>>172673664
ANSWER ME!
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>>172674481
Yeah. Sometimes
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How is there not a "Middlefinger Maldron" invader in this DLC? How did they miss that opportunity?
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>>172674224
>After you beat boss you will see Priscilla's mummy.

The fucking snake thing at the back of Friede's chamber? Its literally a snake person, not whatever Priscilla is.
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>>172674445

do you have a single thing to back up your autistic ramblings? I mean it's not like dream worlds are a pre-established thing in from software games that stretch all the way back to king's field. A theme that was heavily used in DaS2 in so many ways I can't even recall them all. dipshit.
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>>172674581
The only surprise in that webm is how shit you are at such a simple video game.
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>>172673863
Worlds are converging in the present time.
In the DLC the heap literally converges as you go through it. Huge chunks of it are physically moving, and very slowly. And in the final boss room Lothric Castle is still super close to Anor Londo. The heap seems to be a pretty natural occurrence.
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>>172674581
>locking on Midir
There's your problem
>>
What whip does Zoey use?

I wanna do an accurate Desert Sorceress cosplay build.
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>>172674652
DaS3 isn't (wasn't I guess) really known for doing anything with the NPC invasions.
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>>172674581
If only every boss had this correct body hitbox
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>>172674373
They aren't archtrees. They're Bed of Chaos plant things.
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>>172673759
>>172673016
c-can you show us his fire, laser, and dark humanity attacks?
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>>172674481
Normies do. Their ability to use a controller is shit and as a subconscious attempt to exert more control they kind of flail around. Whenever any of my family have ever tried to play one of my games they do it.
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>>172674786
>accurate Desert Sorceress cosplay build.
As long as you have the outfit and walk slowly everywhere you go, you're good.
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>>172674759
I lock-on all the time and have no problem.
I don't mash dat R3 while I'm stood underneath him, though. That's his problem.
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>>172674757

it's a natural occurence within the dream world the game takes place in.

get kicked out of it into the real world and you see that the dreg heap is not the case. the world didn't twist and crumble, it just died and was consumed by ashes.
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>>172674581
why isn't there multiple lock on spots you can switch between?
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>>172670041
That ought to be pretty easy. I'll get to work on it.
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>>172674842
>>172674481
I did when I was 4 years old and playing Super Mario bros 1.
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Is the executioner's greatsword still viable? Or has it been nerfed to oblivion?
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>Make Ringed Knight cosplay character
>SL110
>get Spear of the Church summons every 10 minutes or so
>realize I forgot to get the shields, need 15 faith and 11 int
>go up to SL120 for them
>don't get a single summon anymore
FUCK
ME
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>>172674521
>>172674264
i gotcha
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>>172673863
Again whith this dream horseshit, fuck off already.
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>>172674917
Because it works poorly for players who prefer locked play and doesn't really help players who are comfortable playing unlocked.
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>>172674895
you don't get it
the worlds are still converging in the outside world. Lothric Castle is not supposed to be that close to Anor Londo and when they show that at the start of the game they talk about the lands of the lords of cinder converging too.
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Darkeater Midir, SL75 - Password: dsg
PS4
Anyone kind enough to lend a hand? I'm not really enjoying this fight.
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did anyone bother to finish the collage?
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>>172674652
becuse le ebin cheating troll invader wasn't all that fun or interesting
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So who was that Halflight boss guy? Why did he have the sword you make out of Midir's soul?
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>>172675019
You know whats weird though? Friede implies that bonfires are invisible to certain people but that we the ashen one should be able to see it.
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>>172668856
>invaders are stronger
>shitters whine, most suck it up and play
>hosts are stronger
>shitters whine, most suck it up and play

Nothing has changed, you only now realise you were the shitter
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So, I have encountered the white locust preacher in 3 different places so far

One after the first giant, one right at the top of the ladder on the left of the swamp entrance and the one next to the streets bonfire

Am I missing one?
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>>172668271
Nier Automata
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>>172675016
It was buffed to give 6 FP per kill instead of 3. It still has a terrible WA though and mediocre damage and scaling on top of being uninfusable and unbuffable.

I don't see how it was ever 'viable' if we're talking optimal equipment, but it's not at all the worst thing ever either.
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>>172675115
collage?
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>>172668271
nioh
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>lock on to Midir any time he's facing me
>beat him anyway

damn I'm good
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Explain to me why Gael's Crossbow isn't complete shit.
Protip
You Cant
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>>172674652
God damn it anon, keep your impossible dreams to yourself.
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>>172675113
I haven't beaten him yet.
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>>172674943
What a cutie!
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>>172675034

see >>172675019

you blithering shit.

the land of the gods is not in the present, it's within a dream that transports you to the past. that tree is literally the dream tree god from king's field.

>>172675093

cities are build within the ruins of old ones all the time in the real world, otherwise modern rome wouldn't exist.
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>>172675187
How were Invaders stronger before?
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>>172674581
And here we have another webm of someone doing what you shouldn't do.

Now repeat after me everyone

>Don't stand underneath Midir
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Ok so I killed 4 bosses, now when I enter The Dreg Heap, I hear a loud as fuck moaning sound. Was is there before? What's the source of it? I think it's coming from that flying fucker I can see in the distance, but I haven't found his worm that binds the flying fuck.
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>>172661978
He's right you know
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>>172675251
On release it was good I think
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>>172675187
>have to fight a 1v3 (v4 if host has summon bluefags equipped) most of the time + seeds + all of them chugging at least 5 estus at lightning speed
>lol mate ur just shit git gud haha
alright.
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>>172675284
Someone was saying it was super good against some bosses before the DLC released. I wonder if they were just full of shit.
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>>172668271
i just like annoying the host and phantoms which i find fun
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>>172673414
>knowing nothing about basic biology
The more you physically exert yourself on a regular basis, the more testosterone your body produces. This is what causes increases in muscle size and decreases in breast size. Do you really think someone who regularly swings big-ass weapons to crush the skulls of Abyss monsters is really going to be lacking in testosterone production? Look at any female athletic professional and observe how they will rarely have big racks.

Also fun fact, the enzymes in beer will fuck with your body and create estrogen in the process, that's why beer drinkers will often have man-boobs and beer bellies.
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>>172674658
Her tail. Dude, it's hidden behind main boss of AoA. In church. At pedestal. In basically world of Ariamis. No name snake person? Oh come on.
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>>172675284
It's useless garbage and I'm glad
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>>172674660
>can't overcome the burden of proof
>other person is saying nothing not directly supported by things in the game
>calls the other person autistic
lorefags, everyone

We know that at the end of the world things from all timelines come together in the heap, and the Ringed City is beneath the heap. This includes things that haven't happened yet, like the Dragonslayer Armor rotting for years after we kill it, and Patches forgetting who he was after time went on, Emma becoming a pilgrim based on the hag's ashes, and Gael fighting through years to get to the end of the world because he can't just warp like we can.

This is what we KNOW. This is all we know. Nothing about dreams, nothing about memories. Your entire idea revolves around
>This was a thing in DS2, so it must be a thing in DS3 too
So you aren't even drawing substantial conclusions from likely implications. You're just getting mad that I'm not letting your headcanon slide.
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>>172674581
This is the last dragon they will ever make. Might as well make it realistic to fight a giant monster that can fly.
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>>172675284
Fromsoft refuses to make bows/xbows useful in any of their games. Greatbows only exist to troll the shit out of people.
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>>172673697
Gwyn split guyra's soul into 4 pieces in the DaS1 intro, the dark soul was seath's soul
educated speculation of course since there are no literal souls in king's field, but these two characters are the only characters in either universe powerful enough to possess either soul, and they both represent the souls perfectly.

check the KF pastebin for most of the lore

crtl+f valicia, seath, guyra and vallad for the important bits
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>>172675337
In DaS1 and 2 they could exploit weapon upgrade advantages.
The former allowed farming up 99 fullheals to prepare ahead of time (which a legitimate host wouldn't have the preptime to access) and the latter allowed you to exceed the host's level significantly by abusing SM
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>>172675197
>nier
>pvp
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>>172675353
it's from the flying fucker
the flying fucker is the woman that was at the start of the dreg heap, who is now dead, you retard.
It's not hostile.
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>>172674224
>>172675410
It's not Priscillia as the snake body is clearly a doll and not a real skeleton.
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>everyone asking for Midir help is on PS4
I know there's a console war joke in there, but I just want to help
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>>172675382
Seems to me like everything in the DLC absolutely destroys main game bosses and enemies.
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>>172675251
it's buffable now
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>>172675354
No he's not.
Once you know how to fight Gael he's kinda easy
Meanwhile I've never beaten Orphan on my first try, no matter how many characters I make he's always difficult.
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>>172675163
A guy from Oolacile that hung around after spending a pleasant fortnight in the Ringed City
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>>172675284
If you use it with Splintering Bolts its a hilarious medieval auto shotgun.
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>>172675353

the angel in the sky is the humped hag, the hag considers you a friend so the angel is non-hostile
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Jesus fucking Christ. I was called a Vaatifag Velkafapper just because I wanted more than a two voiceline ending but it looks like the true Vaatifags are the people that didn't want a proper ending.

You guys literally spend more time than Miyazaki did making all this shit up. Please wake up and realize your favorite series will never have proper lore but stupid headcannons you choose to believe in because DaS 2 and 3 were just cashgrabs.

Stop fucking trying to defend your stupid headcannons as if they are real. Discussing them is fine but please stop acting like you are some genius that figured everything out.
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>>172674828
no?
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>>172674581
>artorias gear
>shit at the game
like pottery mate
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>>172675337
>netcode was so bad a connection would usually render wss unusable
>mobs permanently on your side
>can select the zone you invade better, for instance, you can invade exactly where anor londo archers are, impossible in 3
>if you invade pre dlc areas you'll have more healing
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>>172675197
>Another short ass game that tries to trick people into replaying it over and over to make up for the lack of actual content
Wew, I bet you L O V E D Diablo 3.
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>>172661710
Anyone on ps4 care to help me transfer some things over to my other character?
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>first time Midir
>"Man this fight is tough. Better not lock on and spare my estus. Sasuga Miyzaki-san, another good boss!"
>second time through DLC beat him with 9 estus left and dodge him ezpz

>first time fighting Gael
>"Holy shit what a tough old geezer, this is going to take a while. Miyazaki did it again!"
>second time just roll through everything and abuse roll attacks

Let's just hope whatever project From does next has good replayability.
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>>172665579
>>172665687
>>172665716
>>172665774
>>172667789
>>172668956
>>172669725
>>172669725
>>172670196
>>172670261
>>172674079

HOLY FUCKING SHIT I DID IT

TO ANY ANONS STRUGGLING ON KEK DRAGON, STAY THE FUCK IN FRONT OF HIM

I LITERALLY DID THE LAST THIRD OF THE FIGHT WITH 0 ESTUS HOLY SHIT, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I EVEN MANAGED TO GET HIM INTO PHASE 2 AS WELL
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>>172675284
Is it good with splintering or exploding bolts? Cast Two and start shooting.
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>>172675465
>Everyone not having 99 humanity
>Using twinks to represent invaders as a whole
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>>172675691
Gael, is that you?
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>>172675440

you are purposefully ignoring the multiple examples from DaS2 and king's field directly referencing dream worlds

now, if drangleic is canonically a dream world, that you enter through the ruins through a dream tree god entity, and drangleic is physically part of the world of dark souls 3, what does that make lothric? lordran?

dream worlds. you shattered the dream.
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>>172673381
>same thing as linking the flame outside the painting
It's not the same. Corvian Settler explains this.
"When the world rots, we set it afire.
For the sake of the next world.
It's the one thing we do right, unlike those fools on the outside."
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>>172675337
DeS and DaS1 you had access to insane amounts of heals. On top of just flatout using end game gear.
DaS2 you could game SM.
Lack of seed, no sunbromancing obviously and less phantoms to deal with (DeS/DaS1).
etc

Invaders were a lot stronger, the DaS3 whining should make that evident and I'm saying this as someone who plays these games for invasions.
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>>172674829

Ask Zullie.
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>>172675790
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>>172675851
Isn't there some lore in ds2 about a dreaming boy and trees or something about shields?
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>>172675165
>Friede implies that bonfires are invisible to certain people but that we the ashen one should be able to see it.
I didn't think she meant that the corvians can't see them, and more like the corvians can't use them.
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>>172675813
*Twop
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Why do all Dex Weapons fucking suck? I mean the new Katana is pretty decent, but the rest of them are fucking trash.

No, a Sharp Greatsword isn't a Dex Weapon.
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Any kind soul able to drop a lmao2UGS for me?
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>>172674581
Typical great-weapon user, notice how when his r1 spam fails he has no idea what to do next. Classic.

Havel Babies will defend this.
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>>172675689
>playing headcanon: the game developed by headcanon: the company
>surprised when headcanons are going off everywhere
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>>172675790
>329k souls
spend that shit negro
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>>172675947
Dex is not for ganks spanks. Sad
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>>172675790
Well done Anon.
you got gud!
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>>172675935
Nah i just heard it yesterday. She said it should be visible to us even if it is pathetically weak or something to this affect
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>>172675361
I'm saying gitgud was the reply people had for people who bitch about invaders and the same extends to invaders bitching about hosts. It's not about having to gitgud, it's about understanding there is a shit player mode and there's one that needs more effort for little return, they just swapped places. If you want to win, just pick the easy mode since you don't need to be invaded or invade in either game.
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>>172675960
On N64?
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>>172675969
I got all of them from beating him. I'm on NG+3 or something, got 330k from him

I dont have shit to spend it on really, I have basically everything in the game.
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>>172675934

yes. dark souls 2 very blatantly made it canon that drangleic takes place in some mirrored dream reality. this is why aldia was fucking around with mirrors, he figured out how to forcibly pull a person from one mirrored reality to another.
>>
Dragon's Dogma 2 when
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>>172675929
Truly the evangelion of dark souls
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>>172675452
Pharris blackbow is retarded in DS3. The reason they can't make them strong enough to be good in pvp is because even right now you can cheese like 80% of the game using them. If they made them any stronger the game outside of pvp would be a joke.
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>>172675689
>proper ending [in a souls game]
What did he meme by this?
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>>172675284
Its shit, but its super cool shit thats worth fucking around with. I like using it with a WA shield and catching people by surprise when I pop ten in their ass.
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>>172675947
>Astora greatsword (especially sharp) isn't a dex weapon
Fuck outta here
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>>172675960
Sure my sign is down waiting
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>>172674792
the non invader npc fights were pretty fun.
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>>172675851
>what does that make lothric? lordran?
Still on the outside, even in your stupid scenario, still playing by the same rules as the ones in your "dream" which you can't and are deliberately ignoring providing justification for.
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>>172676125
Ahh isn't there a boss that users mirrors and pulls people from other worlds?
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>>172676152
>pvp would be a joke.
It already is a joke, what are you talking about?
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About to start NG++ in DS3, what kind of build would be best for this run.
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>>172661978
I agree. Orphan is just frustrating to fight, not satisfying at all; he has like half a dozen of bullshit moves that either leave you vulnerable to an off screen attack no matter where you dodge or just have no start up at all. At least Rakuyo makes him a joke.
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>>172674870
Kek.
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If I'm making a Gael cosplay character, what's the best spell to use to simulate his skull swarm attack?
Affinity? That seems really shit as a comparison but I can't think of anything else.
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>>172676318

there is no sufficient evidence I could provide you if you think drangleic takes place in the physical world, when one of the major thematic points of the game is that it doesn't.
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>>172676356
Why is everyone complaining about these, I haven't done any PvP with the new DLC.
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>>172675929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHq68t2kgwM
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>>172674786
Anyone?
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>>172662020
Based on what is most popular in arena I'd say these are the 'best' weapons for their respective classes.

* Aquamarine Dagger
* Ringed Knight Straight Sword
* Black Knight Sword
* Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords
* Carthus Shotel
* Exile Greatsword
* Frayed Blade
* Crow Quills
* Millwood Battle Axe
* Yhorm's Great Machete
* Warpick
* Ledo's Great Hammer
* Ringed Knight Spear
* Red Hilted Halberd
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>get invaded in swamp
>use branch and hide and see the invader run around for 30 minutes trying to find me

holy shit im dying
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>>172676432

Drangleic takes place in a physical world of dreams made reality
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>>172676210
What are the good dex greatswords and ultras?

I'd guess lucatiels and curved murakumo
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Between Orphan and Gael, I feel like Orphan is definitely a lot more aggressive in terms of both of their second stages (Gael is somewhat more aggressive in the first stage), but Orphan is definitely harder to dodge overall compared to how easy it is to dodge most of Gael's moves. That being said, Orphan does have some finicky moves that fuck with the camera and really have no place being there. That being said, while Gael in my opinion is easily the more balanced of the two (and which I prefer more of), Kos is the harder of the two. They're both great bosses, though.
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>>172676529
it's the normal whip
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>>172676494

They have ultra mega deluxe championship dual shock turbo edition Poise on all of their attacks and if you get hit once, you die.

You know, balance.
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>>172675869
>had to be at 75% health in DeS where EVERYONE had 99 Full Moon and New Moon grass along with Second Chance
>Everyone always had the chance to summon help
>Still using twinks to represent all invaders

Invading in 3 is an issue because you're at gimped health, gimped Estus and have a ludicrously high chance of encountering a gank squad because of how matchmaking works and how it allows people to become immune to invasions if they don't invade or summon.
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>>172676560


split leaf greatsword needs to be on there
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>>172675689
>good ending
>from a developer that prides itself on it's garbage endings so much that when they accidentally gave king's field a fucking celestial tier ending they revived the series for 1 game after that just to end it with you going inside a big abyss whale and killing a fucking literal who blob
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>>172675790
Gud job anon
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>>172676072
That's interesting. I wonder if this ties back to the whole "the world is actually over" thing being mentioned before. Like souls capable of linking the fire are also capable of going to the past when there isn't anyone available in an age.
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>>172676529
I don't remember it building bleed. Probably the standard.
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>>172676494
People can't dodge a 3 second wind up attack to they're pretty damn unfair if you ask me.
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>>172676585
>good
>dex

what
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>>172675440

Not the guy you're replying to, but here's my two cents.

So the biggest problem with the "dream" theory is that it's only referenced concretely in the most dubious game (and most poorly designed) of the series that took a lot of liberties with the properties of the original. That being said, it's not necessarily incoherent. We have to think of it in terms of eastern thematics and look at Fromsoft's other works to really judge what they were having a stab at.

On one hand, we have an intro that shows us crossing through a dark vortex into our explorable land lost in time. On the other hand, we have references to humanity existing alongside the Gods on a country-to-country basis, and multiple references to legendary lands over a vast sea or up North. Instead of thinking of it as a literal dream, refer back to DS1. Gwyn feared the close of the Age of Fire, which was a golden era of divine beings and marvels of mythic proportions. And we know he had a youngest daughter whom he essentially bound the rabble of the pygmy into a religious covenant around to protect athe """dream""" of the Age of Fire, which was sustained by the cyclical destruction of the Life (grand scale) of entire kingdoms and (human) ages over and over.

The result of this unnatural stopgap measure to break the natural cycle into the Age of Dark meant binding the Dark Soul to the Flame, creating a feedback loop which sustained Gwyn's vision as a projected reality via the Flame itself. The Dreg Heap shows us that even this is was only a temporary solution. Gwyn's "dream" of the Age of Fire is essentially a projection from his interference with the ultimate source of creation, destruction, disparity, etc. thereby restructuring reality and warping spacetime.
Reality continued to decline into the Dreg Heap as long as his youngest daughter's "dream" in which she dreamt of his illusion fueled by the Darksign and therefore made it the "reality."
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>>172668546
I'm partial to Worker Hat, Firekeeper chest, worker pants, and firekeeper wraps.
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>>172676134
Never ever.
Capcom is deathly afraid of filthy westerner money. They'd rather just sell Resident Evil and Street Fighter rehashes until the end of time.
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>>172676610
Gael also has a better soundtrack
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>>172670618

I'm a bit late here but basically raw builds (or just base-stat req in general), or str/dex builds with knight/hunter ring.

Also always use prisoner's chain. Learn to work with around 16-20 END and around 24-27 VIG.
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>>172676674
As long as Red Hilted exists it will always be the best 'halberd'

No matter how good Splitleaf is, it doesn't have spear R1s and perseverance.
>>
literally all they need to do to make invasions far is disable summoning while you are invaded (not counting blues)

that way the same faggot host cant just hide behind his phantoms and resummon them infinitely as you kill them
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>>172676629
>poise on attacks

Fucking retarded.

Poise in DaS1 was perfectly fine. There was literally no issue with it.
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>>172676134
Wait for E3. Itsuno said he'll try to reveal the game he's working on this year.

>>172668271
Deus Vult.
Don't do it until Ubi Fixes it.

>>172676629
This, but most users of it are dumb and if you play ranged, use a short,composite bow they're fucked. Or if you use a Spear/Katana running attack. See >>172670843 Also, I haven't tested it yet, but even any weapon with Perseverance would fuck them over as well.
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>>172676585
Astora Greatsword is a great sharp UGS. Farron Greatsword is the other dex UGS but who uses that.
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>>172675609
Although, the antiquated garb looks like its a female set, and yet he's described as a guy. Is he a guy in the bossfight?
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>>172676494
Insane phantom range on the L1 which leads into >>172676629 most of the time. Taking a single hit can mean death or losing 90% of your HP. The slam in the WA combo also has a hitbox about 3 times as wide as the blade.
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>>172676494
Because people are bad.
The new UGS have awkward delays on their L1s that's just slightly longer than normal. Bad players, the sort to mash roll mindlessly whenever they see an attack coming, are upset because their bad rolls keep getting caught by its awkward timing.

It's literally exactly like the multitude of complaints people were making on release about UGS. Bad players whine endlessly about thing that punish their bad habits
>>
Daily reminder that the gooks unironically couldn't dodge an UGS on release and had to nerf the FUGS as a result.
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>>172676918
Holy shit are you people real?
The WA shoots a projectile.
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>>172676840

lmao did you literally ever play a single duel in das1

heavy weapons were completely unusable because you could just poise tank through
their swing and get a free backstab
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>tfw finally killed Midir on NG+
>SL176
>+1 summon
come at me
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>>172676694
Yeah maybe check her dialogue just do make sure because i was pretty tired when i heard it
>>
>entire DaS universe was a dream
Probably the biggest pile of putrid dogshit that was ever posted here.
>>
The Door Shields completely shit on the Paired Swords, by the way.

Like, they literally cannot do anything against you.
>>
How fucking ass ravaged would you fucking newbie shitters be if you came up against the fucking scraping spear in DeS.

You'd probably shit yourself in impotent rage.

Shit, you'd probably slit your wrists the first time you got soulsucked by Allant.
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>>172676134
Whatever happened to Deep Down? Wasn't that a Dragon's Dogma successor or something?
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>>172677006
I'm talking about the overhead flip after the projectile slash, y'know, the one that staggers you if you're too close to them making the slam a guaranteed hit and likely a kill? The hitbox on that is fucking atrocious.
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>>172676895
Listen man, when you've been hanging out with only the guardians for the past eon, and the only girl is in a locked room, you start to get a bit desperate.
>>
>>172677128
Allant was easier than any of the bullet sponge bosses in this DLC
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>>172677135
It's vaporware. They showed it at like two events and then hoped we'd forget about it.
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>>172676560
Can I get builds for each of those weapons
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>>172676432
>there is no sufficient evidence I could provide you
No, there isn't. Especially considering how whether or not Drangleic was stuck in some kind of a pocket dimension isn't even the problem here since people on the "outside" as shown in DS2 aren't cut off from it completely to begin with. Otherwise there would be no stories of it in the first place, and no firekeeper.
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>>172677009
I probably played more duels than you, you prissy little faggot bitch

Oh, and you know what would be the solution to that?

>weapons deal poise damage based on their weight

wew

fucking fixed
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>>172677098
Lorefags have always been a joke.
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>>172677056
Good stuff. You should do a no summon challenge run next anon.
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>>172677135
>Whatever happened to Deep Down?
Dead

>Wasn't that a Dragon's Dogma successor or something?
Nope
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>>172676579

yes, the exact same one that lothric and lordran are in.

the dream world, no matter how physical, is still a dream, and you shattered it which is why you got chucked into the ruins of the land of the gods within the present of the non-dream reality.
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>>172677006
Projectile does what 250 damage? Also yes it's unsafe to do anything if they're doing WA but honestly with how slow it is, just sprint back and stay away. Sooner or later they'll start making mistakes which'll lead to their death like that Spear guy.

>>172677101
>The Door Shields completely shit on the
everything.
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>>172676874
That's very likely just going to be DMC5 though. Which while not particularly unwelcome, I don't really care much for.
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>>172677098
>OH NO! my incredibly uninspired and plagaristic series might be very slightly more uninspired!
don't post that shit here!!!
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>>172676494

I feel like it's mainly gankers. 1v1 I don't have a problem with them but holy fucking shit if you have to deal with them in a gank, good fucking luck.
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>>172676721
>So the biggest problem with the "dream" theory is that it's only referenced concretely in the most dubious game (and most poorly designed) of the series

And I'm not reading anything you say after that.

>>172676759
>Street Fighter rehashes until the end of time.
Yeah but sf4 ultra is literally the pinnacle of fighting game balance and best fighting game ever invented.
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>>172676940
What do South Koreans have to do with Dark Souls?
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>>172677267

>das1 poise was perfectly fine

>prove you are a retard

>ACTUALLY, heres how i would fix it

nice goalpost moving, you braindead slug

kys
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>>172677076
>"I presume it visible to thee? The bonfire here, in this room. A meek and faded thing, but 'twill guide thee nonetheless."
sourced from the wiki, so yeah it appears that for some the bonfires are not visible, unless she was being catty about you not leaving immediately.
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>>172667848
>>172670041
>>172674943
Here's that then.
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>>172677056
>overleveling that much
>needing the extra 30% HP on top of that
>needing someone to hold your hand
I bet you blew through all of your Estus too.
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>People having a shitthrowing contest over which version of poise sucked more, DaS1 or 3
>DaS2's version was perfect because it was plain as day, poise damage was shown to players and there were items that added poise damage like the stone ring

B-b-b-ut muh b team
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>>172677462
That sounds like she could just be mocking you. Kind of like "I hope you see the bonfire in the middle of the room, retard".
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>>172675335
Um, k
You still don't seem to understand so let me recap
you said
>Lordran and Lothric are in a dream, converging isn't real, DS3 intro is outside the dream
I said
>Thing from Lordran and thing from Lothric are outside the dream and they are converging and here is why

you were supposed to continue from there
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>>172676721

the thing that makes this all really confusing and convoluted is that dream worlds and "memories" are essentially time travel, and time travel is never straight forward.

It could be said that the plot of dark souls 1 revolves around using the memory to link people to the past, where they can collect what is needed to return to the present and keep the solitary flame lit within the dead world, since there is nobody alive anymore to do it naturally.

since the flame transcends time, it cannot be allowed to die at any point in time or it will affect ALL periods of time, so even a million years after the end of the world they need to have somebody who can keep it burning.
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>>172675440
Don't bother replying to that retard. Just filter the word "dream" and you won't see the bullshit he spills here.
>>
so I got a caution warning for cheating. I deleted all my cheat saves and backed up to my original saves. A-am I safe now guys?
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>>172677584
Scholar PvP really was great
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>>172677354
>And I'm not reading anything you say after that.

He's right though? They stopped making DaS2 halfway through, threw out almost everything, and then rushed out a game with whatever they could salvage from the cutting room floor. It's story is pretty hard to consider canon when you think about how much it changed from the original vision it was trying to adhere to.

All the dream shit in 2 was supposed to be literal time travel in the original draft.
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>>172677513
Kind of makes you wonder why the "gods" didn't just sic Midir on Kalameet then.
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>>172677584
>>DaS2's version was perfect
You mean the game where you could break poise on 2-3 hits while two handing a dagger?
No thanks.

>>172677712
Very Great
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What are these weird symbols by the bonfire names?
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>>172677275
i wanna replay the whole game with a different char.
also fuckin regret going NG+ just a day before the 2nd DLC.
won't summon in NG.
how do i make a pyromancer? never player caster shit.
>>172677562
actually still had 5 left
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>>172677354

>ignoring an attempt to engage the series lore in favor of crying about having your favorite game ribbed on

Yeah, about what I expected from the special ed. containment room that is /dsg/.

>SF4 ultra as the pinnacle of anything but overhyped hot garbage

Holy shit, you actually are retarded. I was just joking before, but now I feel bad.
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>>172677686
or
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>>172677638
>>172677462
>mocking the lord of cinders and god king of Londor
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>>172677862
That too.
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>>172677584
>takes them a year to implement basic quality of life fixes from DaS2 like the activity listings on the warp screen
From Software's ability to improve on shit then ignore it is something else. They really need to learn to stop splitting their shit down the middle and focus on less.
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Post em
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is anyone here using heavy armor not just for fashion too ?
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>>172677781
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>>172677847
Congratulations by winning the argument with smug anime knockout.
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Fuck, I almost got him on my first try
I was greedy
>>
>>172677758
How do you think Midir got corrupted by the Dark to begin with? Gay dragon sex.
>>
>>172677513
Goddamn, he is huge.
>>
>>172677513
Midir is a big guy.
>>
>>172677823
>how do i make a pyromancer?

If you love doing pathetic amounts of damage on every boss and you hate yourself, yes.

>demons I did 50 hit a pop with +10 chaos estoc 30int/30faith
>did 400 a pop with 40 str +10 claymore
>>
>>172677749
Well I'm not reading what he typed so I have no idea what you are talking about
>>
>>172677909
>lord of Cinders
The mc is not a lord of Cinders unless you link the first flame
>god king of Londor
Elfriede already betrayed Londor. She doesn't care about any of that.
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>>172677781
>>172677982
God those animations look so fucking bad. I'm so glad we don't have to play that garbage anymore.
>>
>>172674513
from earthen peak ruins bonfire you run into the building that the two thralls run into, head left through the hole in the wall and run towards the cliff with the item, you have to aim carefully and roll or jump off the cliff onto the vine below that leads straight to the lower area with the angel's body

>>172674570
well if you're just trying to rush to the boss to get a weapon or armor set further in the DLC i think it's a good thing to know.
>>
I need a new character
Never played a caster before in Dark Souls 3, what are some fun weapons/spells to use as one ?
>>
>>172677982
Backstep i-frames were a mistake.
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>>172668546
A wizard have no need for fashion
>>
>>172678198

the new Lightning Bow miracle from the DLC is fun as fuck. Outside of that, it's all pretty frustrating to use unless you're a mindless bufftard.
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>tfw the Dark Souls Twitch faggots already went back to For Honor
Silver linings.
>>
>>172678207
But the katana didn't even make physical contact with him, of course that shouldn't do damage.
>>
ringed knight straightsword literally makes you fucking gywn
>>
>>172677909
She doesn't really take you seriously and with the last couple of posts I could totally see it being a jab at you wandering around after both her and Vilhelm told you to fuck off.
>>
>>172678281
nobody went back to for honor, the game is dead.
>>
New
>>172678349
>>172678349
>>172678349
>>
>>172678140
>Elfriede already betrayed Londor. She doesn't care about any of that

>Talking shit to someone with the power to rule the world and burns yours
>>
>>172677707
plz respond
>>
>>172678254

Japanese style "Naked except for silly hat" fashion is also acceptable for wizards.
>>
>>172678281
Peeve is still in the honeymoon phase like he was after Friede so he's still into DS3
>>
>>172678137
>pathetic amounts of damage on every boss
is it really that shit? is sorcerer any better?
>>
>>172677982

Moar.
>>
>>172677654

im saying that they were built near each other like great cities always are. the place is fucking dead
>>
>>172678139
What I said isn't really related to the rest of his post, just about DaS2 being shoddy.
>>
>>172678281
Did ENB play TRC yet ?
>>
>>172678470
Yes, I couldn't get myself to continue any further with my pyromancer, unless you don't mind getting summons. No idea, haven't played sorcerer yet, always wanted it since DaS but never got to it.
>>
>>172678375
But vinhelm tells me to go talk to her and pay my respects even though she is just like a mayor of a rotted painting and I'm god king of the everything everywhere
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>>172678382
>>172678448
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>>172677758

because midir was basically a pet slave, and would have defected if he knew the gods genocided his race?
>>
>>172678591
>tfw when i told everyone in 4h general to watch him back when he only had 100 to 200 viewers and then he blew up to 3k a day or 2 later
>>
>>172678026

anyone else notice how gael's sword has the same flame-sear rune marks on it as the ringed knight sword?

gael is basically what the ringed knights were like before gwyn sealed them. no wonder he was terrified if a single knight of dark was basically as strong as a god.
>>
>>172677823
On my pyro I like 40/40 int/fth, onyx blade or chaos astora gs, demon's scar. Pyro rings, sage, favor/chloranthy. Just be prepared to chip away at the fire/dark resistant bosses with a raw ass or some shit.
>>
>>172677758
More like why didn't they send him after Manus?
If his whole job was fucking up abyss outbreaks, then Oolacile should have been his 1# stop.
Same with 4kids. Why seal them when you have a fucking dragon?
>>
>>172678591

Beautiful.
>>
>>172677584
>Garth Marenghi's Darkplace
Goddamn what a blast from the past.
>>
>>172677749
>All the dream shit in 2 was supposed to be literal time travel in the original draft.

it still is time travel.
>>
Alright, so I no one can drop me the Black Knight set, can anyone tell me the best way/place to farm all the Black Knight stuff?
>>
>>172676874
That fucking obvious Ubisoft UI
>>
>>172679714
People could drop you the set though.
>>
>>172679714
Untended Graves.
>>
>>172666214
When you have dreams like that, then you fucking know for a fact that one day you'll find something like this that will make you think "Holy Shit, I dreamed of this!"
If it doesn't turn out that way, at least it sounds pretty fucking awesome

>>172670907
>>172671987
>>172672719
>>172673248
I'm really taken aback by this "everything was a dream" thing, but I'm interested.
Is there anything I can do to get started on this whole thing about the dream?
What does this say about the Bearer of the Curse?
If we say the Bearer was already cursed before reaching Drangleic,
then that would have to mean that the Undead Curse has some physical manifestation in reality; outside of the "dreamworlds" of Lothric/Lodran/Drangleic.

A seperate detail I'd like to point out (which is in short), Filianore appears as
a ghostlike entity when you are the phantom in the world of another player.
Just like the same way where you would typically find a number of NPC's.
This makes me wonder if she is actually just dead there, or if she isn't.
I'm also curious about what the deal is with the Blood of the Dark Soul.
As well as why Gael wants to give it to His Lady for her painting, for a new world.
>>
>>172677338
Become the Dark Souls Boss you always wanted to be with them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqSPsoat-3E
>>
>>172680081
I asked earlier and one person offered to drop me a piece but never showed.

Another person said people don't like to give away the pieces because it's a rare drop.

>>172680931
Thanks
>>
What's the most fun place to invade for lower level pvp? Trying to decide whether I want to either make a sl60 or ~sl25 character
>>
>>172682083
60 is when mages have a chance to defend themselves 25~ is best because it's usually the most hits to kill meaning battles are actually fun and not one and done wombo combos
>>
>>172682083
You'd think 60 would be tougher but it's not. People neglect their build a shitton during story because it's comfortable and good enough for a long time.

Thus proving that anyone who tries could use skill over souls to beat the game.
>>
>>172682083
>posted in the dead thread

>25
Farron Keep
Host WILL get poisoned so you can constantly keep tabs on their location, plus you can twink out to fuck at SL25
>60
Smouldering Lake
Everyone hates the place, nobody expects to be invaded there. You also have rape goats to help you.
>>
>>172677781
>You mean the game where you could break poise on 2-3 hits while two handing a dagger?
Daggers are already the shortest and weakest weapons. There is no point in making them useless with retard poise like in DaS1 other than no fun allowed.
>>
>>172682506
Well he's going to twink probably so he'll be the one wombo comboing.
>>
Is there a way to reset rosaria's 5 repecs with CE?
>>
>>172676623
>>172676697
Thanks guys.
>>
>be magic build
>can't do shit against demon prince
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO
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>>172681784
DEEEEEESTROYED
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Any helms or leggings that go well with Antiquated Plain Garb and Violet Wrappings?
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>>172684229
>mfw fighting demon prince as a pyro
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>>172685253
Midir is worse. My ass is still gaping.
>>
Do many people twink with the Fillet o fish Blade? It has such a high fez requirement I can only see it appearing mid game at the earliest.
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