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>>172101787
Forced stale balance edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.

The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.

It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.

Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Steamgroup
Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Group chatroom
steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795

>Our work-in-"""progress""" wiki
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki

>Our pastebin (NEEDS UPDATING NERDS)
http://pastebin.com/uTZnjYwm

>Dom4 Manual
http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf

>Dom4 Inspector
This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/

>Play by email guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551

>Debug Mod:
For testing battle formations and spells
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eo3qbjlixfghvs4/Debug.zip?dl=0

>Where do I get it?
It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is kill.

>THE BASICS
>Read the manual
>Read the wiki
>Read the pastebin
>Watch some LPs by Sy, Maerlande, or Nuclearmonkee
>Jump into MP feet first; ask for pretender advice in the thread

Submit completed games here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jHX_ZoJi6zIvDq6ANdp-W1Y89W5_fmShuDyHmAj5qC4/viewform

Results Here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dlrvyEqLFYIaXRc49TheMmfdoP8jEh1m5rZJHJAzDWQ/edit?usp=sharing
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g-guys how do i contact the llamabeast? i can't find any contact info anywhere.

i want to flap my bats.
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>>172597423
what does summod change ?
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>>172639816
summod changes Rain Of Stones(E3A1 spell) gem requirement from 1 to 2, making it impossible for a E1A1 mage with earth boots to cast it on the first turn, since a mage can only consume gems equal to its elemental level for a spell. Can still do it with Summon earth power, but second turn RoS is not as good as first turn.
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>>172640016
Thanks, anon
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>>172640016
Wow shiet I never realized that before. I wonder if that can be called "balance" though? RoS is a powerful spell, but does it need to be nerfed if you already have a mage that's e1a1, boots, and research for that spell? 6th level spells are no joke and they should be treated as no jokes. Some even game changers. Without the change evo6 has a rightful place of a powerful 6th level spell that competes with other 6th level spells from other schools. I think if a nation can research evo6 it should be granted that they are also capable of casting RoS, without summod's changes.
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>>172640568
RoS was bullshit.
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- Ranged:
** Tsihsithese Human Bowman (Dynastic human), 7g, 4r, Short Bow, Bronze Hatchet, Linen Cuirass.
--- Ranged unit, Blind and Mountain survival
** Tsihsithese Human Bowman (Dynastic human), 7g, 5r, Composite Bow, Bronze Hatchet, Linen Cuirass.
--- Ranged unit, Blind and Mountain survival

kek.
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>>172641086
bullshit maybe, but so is wild hunt, BoT, elementals, and all those other shits you can cast at 6th level.
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>>172641658
you can't cast those with 1level paths
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>>172641658
none of those clear the battlefield before the other side can act
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>>172641658
Rain of stones was more bullshit than being able to summon 4 elementals. It was on a level with fog warriors, an a5 , 3 gem spell. This makes RoS closer in requirements (and still more common).
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>>172641438

7g composite bows? Sounds solid.
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>>172640568
>>172641658
nope.
RoS turn 1 is way harder to deal with than any of that shit, way more enraging and completely neuters all the recruitable and national summons of many nations.

elementals can be dealt with if you have a big army. 4 air elementals won't kill 170 troops and 24 mages, and most importantly you need to invest some non joke mage to cast it.
level 1 mages should not be allowed to do such wonderful things alone.
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>>172644050
did you miss the part where they were blind?
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>>172639651
its at the bottom of every email you get from the server. its [email protected]

>>172641658
those cant be cast nearly as easily as rain of stones could be

>>172644050
theyre blind anon
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>>172644758
>[email protected]

thanks. i looked everywhere else but in my email folder!
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>>172644616
So they are unaffected by darkness?
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What /domg/ games are on llamaserver now? is MAdman a /domg/ game?
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>>172645359
true.
they also will never receive a prec malus
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>>172645587
*unstarted /domg/ games I mean.
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>>172644616
>>172644758

So what? Do you rely on your archers sharpshooting stuff? No you mass them and let arrow volleys fly. Its a very good archer plus you can use darkness to equalize the fighting field.
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>>172645587
just check the steam group for games. i know theres an autistic rp game starting soonish, but it might be full. i know the stupid elf game is /domg/ but idk about madman
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>>172645961
the issue with really low precision archers is that they tend to hit your own blockers just as often as they hit the enemy, and if theyre fighting a smaller force of blessed units or a thug or something theyll never be able to hurt the enemy at all. theyre basically monkey archers
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>>172645730
>>172645587
>is MAdman a /domg/ game?

yes.
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>>172645961
well but unless the oppoenent literally makes a blob of 300 units ( which is ill advised) then your archers will scatter so many shots that the 7 gold cost will be completely defeated.
using them with darkness is good but your first war should come before you get alteration 6.
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>>172645961
the whole thing is kind of moot since their mages are also blind
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>>172647290
What if by blind, anon meant blindfighter?
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>>172647848
I'm finishing compiling the mod now, so we'll see then, won't we?
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>>172647290
>>172646396

What is their precision anyway? 0? Surely not because if they are blind like the affliction then their att/def would also be 0.
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>>172648994
somehow their precision is 10
so then yes, they're very good, but they're slaves with morale 7 and their best commander has taskmaster +1 ldrship 120
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>>172649586

WOW slaves too? What is their upkeep 2g? Amazingly good.
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https://pastebin.com/nTtgHER9
https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4w7k9zjw3lfuuc/nationgen_incomprehensible_circle.rar?dl=0


look her over, I'm off to lunch, when I get back I'll make a game
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>>172640568
It's also worth noting that any blood nation can easily make their A1E1s into A1E3s thanks to bloodstones. The change makes blood even stronger, while nerfing already weak nations (like MA Man, for instance).
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>>172648994
Blind here means the ability, not the affliction. The Blind ability means "this unit sees without using it's eyes". It doesn't actually mean the unit is any worse at seeing, and it protects against penalties from darkness / mist etc.

So these guys are actually insane anti-archers for an A nation, get a bunch of 7g composite bows and cast Mist/Solar Eclipse, watch enemy archers and mages whiff while you rain death on the enemy.
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>got banned for 3 days
>thread is deader than ded
For shame.
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>>172655781

Save us Rejakor!
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>>172655948
I said for 3 days, not 4lyfe.
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>>172650065
anyone see anything insanely broken I missed?
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Nief, please don't stale.
Elves, do whatever you like.
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>>172658558
elf removal commences
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>>172658558
Thanks for posting. I'm trying to prevent stales with small extensions. Hopefully elves and giants can get their stuff in on time, but I'd really like to avoid this game turning into the usual domg clusterfuck of stalers and AIs. You and new Marverni have both been very resilient, which is awesome
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>>172658558
>>172659765
Oh, they actually have 5 hours left. That's probably plenty; I'll hold off on extending for them.
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>>172659901
Don't do micromanagements. Do not be a badmin. I'm not even in the game, but micro catering of stallers will never be a good thing. If a nation stales that means they could not make the turn or choose not to. We all have human lives and it's understandable to miss a turn. But if you intentionally stale, especially twice it calls for being set to AI. The player has given up and microcaterring to their needs breeds more bad players. The golden rule still stands. 2 stales = AI. No extensions unless asked. If nobody asks then never extend. You're a manager not a babysitter.
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>>172660615
i agree with this post
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/l4w7k9zjw3lfuuc/nationgen_incomprehensible_circle.rar?dl=0
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MasterTheCircle
games up fgts,will change settings based on interest
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Sorry about that province, Bogarus, the scout went insane and attacked it.
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>>172661582
I can already see one nation with 9/atk square sacreds, which are recruitable anywhere. To be fair, the nation has tons of other weaknesses (cold blooded, meh pathing, no nationals) but still, ouch.
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>>172663274
one of those is a lance, so it's 6 after that, but you're missing the equally important part which is that they are ETHEREAL. They also have very high def, so you could run w9x9 and roll some people over
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>>172663458
I was talking about the enigma of the bog. Bite+Flail. The cap onlies have berserk 5 too.
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>>172663274
I managed to miss a FAE 85g flier too.
I may just ban them as opposed to fucking around with the mod
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>>172663274
>>172663458
>>172663519
yeah, nvm. Different sacred. The ethereal guys aren't rec everywhere either
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>>172663593
I mean, the 9 atk/sacred dudes would be spookier if they weren't cold blooded.

They're legit not even something you need to care much about just by running cold 3. Nation doesn't really have the pathing for breath of the desert either.
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>>172663801
the entire nation hates hats and they have 0 ranged troops too
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>>172664220
Did I say they were without flaws? I just commented that they had excellent blenders.

The nation would really shine if it had the air path for arrow fend/storm/mass flight, all of which make archers useless in their own ways.
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C'tis can you elaborate on your message?
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>>172660615
seconded
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>>172661582
sent in my stupid ass pretender. looking forward to my invulnerable sacred stealthy hobbit flyers
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GIANTS PLZ
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If you send in your turn again, does it change your turn or fuck up?

I realized I could make a much better move in one game.
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I'm trying to dig around for a copy of the map 'Chalice of Ilmatar'(older map that is similar to Valanis) but the dropbox link from the mod creator is dead. Anyone know where I can find a copy of this map?
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>>172670514
You can resend both turns and pretenders
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>>172670556
oh my god it's beautiful
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Hegude are you around?
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>>172670556
What the fuck am I reading.

Also one of my biggest pet peeves is people writing "morale" as "morale" so this really isn't fun.
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I have some n00b questions.

1. I'm never happy with my midgame--too much micro and spell confusion--can anyone recommend a simple(r) nation to keep learning the game with?

2. If I build 5 temples, does that actually increase my max dominion scale? Aka if I had a 9 dominion scale on my pretender, then built 5 temples, I'd have 10?

3. Does anyone have a basic pretender mod template?
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>>172670556
>Conjugation, alternation
>moral

It's like pottery
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>>172677507
2.) correct you only need to build 4(the one in your capitol counts) new temples to increase dominion scale. After that then you get more dominion for each 5 temples you build. However, this works differently in a disciple game where its number of nations on a team x 5 for the amount of temples needed for a dominion increase.(so on a team of two, you'd need 10 total temples to increase dominion.)
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>>172678221
Right so I can, by spamming temples, eventually give my pretender Awe?
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>>172677507
1. So you want a nation with low mage support and less scripting. Try MA Ulm, throw melee in front, crossbows in back, set mages to "Cast Spells" and it should not be that bad since the AI loves to throw buffs around.

2.Yes, every 5 temples increases your domain scale by 1, up to cap of 10.

3. Answer is: It Depends
You can copy some pretenders from a nations guide to start
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>>172678554
I don't mind scripting, it's mostly map micromanagement that bogs me down. So maybe a nation with teleports, easy site finding, etc?
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>>172678456
Awe is determined in pretender creation. Going from dom 8 to dom 9 does not give your pretender Awe.
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>>172678881
Yeah, that's the answer I was looking for. I thought scales were locked at creation but the manual made it sound like building temples increased it+altered pretender.

So it just increases it, not altering the pretender.
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>>172679110
domg games waiting for pretenders ?
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>>172678881
EA Abysia, ignore the blood magic, blob everything into a single doomstack to march towards someones capital, sitesearch fire by setting your mages to autocasting Augury
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>>172679253
?
>>172679345
Does autocasting choose locations that haven't been already searched?
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>>172679253
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ElfingAround
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>>172679490
did not mean to quote you, I'm tired, sorry anon
>>172679538
I'm bad with elves. Against and with. Would be a disaster.
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>>172670556
I don't play MA Ermor (or MA in general). What's going on with this guide? Is anything this guy saying untrue?
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>>172679490
it chooses not searched over partially searched with lower level iirc
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>>172679756
Ah, nice. Thanks
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>>172639217

Best place for new maps? Most links are deadsura.
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>>172680750

Just buy the DLC.
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Trading water/air gems for astral and nature gems.

>>172658558
>>172659765
>>172659901
Just tired between work, university and sutying.
But today was my last day at work so I should be taking my turns earlier.

I'm not going to AI against bats. Fuck those guys. I'm going to hold out as long as it takes for the other players to get their shit together and finally remove them.
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>>172662293
Uh okay.
Together with that omnious message you send me, I wasn't quite sure what to make of it.
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Thread's ded, Zed
Thread's ded
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>>172681232
Don't forget that global message from the lizards either.
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Yo /v/anheim, I got kicked out of my house this weekend. Gonna be hard to Clash.
t. Moat
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>>172663458
Are those good enough to run tribless awake on? I want to know if I should test out some N9W9E9 memes on them.
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>>172688131
I wouldn't do E9, honestly. They wear armor, so you don't get the full effect of the E bless, and they're mounted so their encumbrance isn't that bad. N9W9B9 or F9 for extra killing power would probably be better.

But yes, absolutely, they can crush people with a tribless
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>>172687189
you can come live under my bed, if you take hormones.
I'm sorry bro hope shit works out
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>>172689291
E9 is very important for the awake, and makes them fatigue neutral. In addition to that, testing showed they get +4 prot from it, which isn't bad.

N9W9B9 is also an option, yes, but it makes the expander much weaker without the +9 prot from earth. N9W9B9E4 is too expensive sadly, but you could in theory go N9W9B9E6 without an awake and they'd be fatigue neutral even with W9.
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>>172661582
Would be more interesting on a non-shit map.
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I can't pick a nation, I have anxiety that I'm going to pick the wrong one.
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>>172695239
give me a non shit map
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>>172695461
Literally any with wrap around would be better. Corners are an awful thing to have.
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>>172695285
You best pick a nation that can survive being rushed by tri-bless awake nation with ethereal 8 atk/square on a charge sacreds.

That 8 atk/square is before the bless btw.
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>>172661582
I took the blind slave archers. What are some good strats for blind slave archers considering I mostly have astral and earth magic?
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2017-03-30 23:54:51 +0200
Drowning will now trigger immortality and similar effects
Autohealer will now result in high pretender cost
Execute mods before browsing pretenders
New mod commands: #nowish, #addupkeep, #springshape (x4)
New mod commands: #almostundead, #almostliving
Linux/OSX: Flush gl queue before forking
Protection of Geryon immune to forge rebates
Stat fixes
2 friendly currents will now cancel each other out
Cheat check for non researched rituals & forging
Show icon for negative mastersmith ability too
nohomlandnames resulted in too much population in Ermor
More mobile friendly status page for network games

2017-03-29 09:55:16 +0200

2017-03-29 09:54:58 +0200
Natives are complaining, event fix
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Does anyone know of a way for someone to cheat with their pretender points? I want to test something and I don't want to waste too much time empowering my pretenders.
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>>172696826
>Stat fixes
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>>172692770
Oh, awake. I missed that aprt
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>>172692770
how do you even make tri bless awake work? did you just tank every one of your scales?
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>>172698682
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>>172697292
Make your own mod pretender maybe?
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>>172686737
Nah, that was to be expected. Nobody enjoys being attacked.
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>>172698912
With that nation you want sloth 3 and get the +2 scales somewhere else. The sacreds cost 16 resources and 100 gold, and even sloth 3 lets you recruit 2 turn 0.

2 of those with W9N9E9 can take damn near anything.
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>>172698912
>those Russian scales
At least they can take it easy.
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>>172699329
You're right. I think Misf 1 is the way to go
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>>172699329
>2 of those with W9N9E9 can take damn near anything.
I lost one of my sacreds to crystal amazons, and a second one to bone tribe =(
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>>172699773
Bone tribe dont play. Way stronger then all the other shitty land based tribes.
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>>172699957
It was k. His buddy killed the rest =)
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Hey admin, if you want to delete this ridiculous nation, that's fine too. I'm okay with playing as something else.
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>>172700295
Which one was Elenrus?
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>>172700379
>>172696442
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>>172700295
Honestly, I'd be fine as either playing them or not having them in the game. They're not that OP in the longrun due to having little else amazing sans the cap only sacreds, but they can basically choose any nation not packing magic weapons early and insta-gib them with 0 counterplay.

Nations with magic weapons can at least sort of defend themselves. It just warps the game too much.
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>>172700728
Their mages are okay too, honestly. 65g S1 mages can definitely be useful. W isn't the best without F, but they'll be able to pull out E for buffs from their big cap mages (even if they do need to communion up for them)
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>>172696826
>Autohealer will now result in high pretender cost
Why was this nerf necessary? Who even picked pretenders for their healing ability?

>New mod commands: #nowish, #addupkeep, #springshape (x4)
>New mod commands: #almostundead, #almostliving
Those look neat.

Not sure what almost undead and almost living do, though.

>>172697292
Grab the debug mod, use S1 1 pearl wishes to get everything.

It does set almost every spell to research zero, though. Makes testing at a specific research level difficult.
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>>172701526
It's an earthsnake nerf?
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>>172701698
You're thinking of recuperation (tag #heal).

#autohealer is the ability which can also heal other units in the province.
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>>172702275
In that case it's dumb
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>>172701514
I'll go ahead and throw down a ban on them, since they seem to be way outside the power level of the rest of the nations.

Feel free to submit a different nation and I'll just delete that one before we start
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>>172702510
Will do.
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>>172702559
I'm still running an awake tribless
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>>172702692
the memes must flow
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Ideas for what techs to go for a first war on a cold 1 temp blessless Ragha?
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>>172704335
Thunderstrike, Storm, Summon Air Elemental, Flaming Arrows.

Possibly other options too, depends on the situation.
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>>172702510
Yo, can you upload the map file somewhere?
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>>172708515
There isn't one, I switched to one with a link
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Is it possible to heal an affliction off of an undead or demon? Healer status says it can't heal undead and the only other method I can think of is an unique artifact.
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>>172711096
gift of health is the only way
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>>172711715
shit that sucks. thanks.
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>>172711096
demons can be healed by the healer ability. Confirmed, since the chalice works on Dai Oni. You're SoL for undead though.
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>>172681232
Oh, that message was in reference to the global event the tun before. It was about malign stars aligning.
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What's the best age and why is it LA?
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>>172722480
>age of heavy armor and xbows
>best age
Shit taste desu senpai.
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>>172722480
Why do you hate having gems?
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>>172722886
>He doesn't want massive battles with quality armor and crossbows

I actually like EA Ermor too but i'm having too much fun with LA Jomon.
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>>172723074
Jomon is actually one of the few LA nations I like.

If only they were MA instead. Them being less terrible would be nice too
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>>172723317
It's weird how complete Jomon feels compared to the other LA nations. The others just feel copy-pasted
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>>172724109
I think it's mainly that they have a significantly distinct focus from the other LA nations.

C'tis, T'ien Ch'i, Bogarus, and Atlantis are similarly interesting to me, but most of the other LA nations come off as way too similar to each other (or, in the case of mictlan and xibalba, as basically copies of EA nations).
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>>172724109
except the best Jomon strategy is to use an earthsnake, recruit indy crossbows, and support them with generic magic
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>Play as EA Ermor
>Manage to kill 90+ troops with only 30

Why is this allowed?
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>>172728093
call me when you kill 300 with just 1
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>>172728093
national troops are better than indies

shocking truth
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>>172728349
t. Bob
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Now that the thread is alive i can announce to everyone who was interested that AbsoluteMadMan has ended with my throne rush victory.

with 49 days for 51 turns that was fuckign fast and the "2 stale = subbed or AI" rule gave me nightmares but made the game super reliable, for that i would like to thank all the players and the Absolute Madmin.
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Game: EANoMeme
Turn number 4
Next turn due: 16:38 GMT on Saturday April 1st

Abysia 2h file received
Berytos 2h file received
Lanka 2h file received
Mictlan 2h file received
Therodos 2h file received
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba 2h file received
>Yomi Waiting for 2h file
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>>172731182
That doesn't look like thronerush at all. You had more provinces than 2nd and 3rd bigger player combined.
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>>172732196
sorry it was not a true throne rush, it was a relative throne rush in the sense i was crumbling with no decent idea on how to fight Marignon and i had to take several hard thrones at the same time with no recruitable H3.So i just cut out support to all my militar operations that weren't throne capturing.
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>>172730801
>attacking skellingtons with piercing weapons
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>>172730801
Cavalry provinces are difficult, and that one had 31 cavalry (poor quality cav, but still nasty in that number).

Undead provinces are also way harder than they'd look, because undead never rout.

All things considered, your troops did very well to take out 11 enemies.
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>>172733939
is there any unit worth wishing for .
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>>172735186

Grigori
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>>172664715

There's nothing to elaborate: The largest player by far is about to get larger and get an easy level 2 throne if he's not invaded by others in the next few turns.
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>>172735621

Yes but Bogarus has trash troops so what is he using to attack you and why arent you wining?
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>>172735186
Seraph. Queen of the City. Frog.
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>>172735186
High end summons can be worth it, but it's usually better to just find a way to get a high end summon directly.
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>>172735791
Bogarus has excellent mage support and summons.
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>>172736467

So does C'tis, your point?

In fact C'tis does cheaper and better whatever Bogarus does. Not blood so is he invading with blood?
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>>172736614
I'm not C'tis so I haven't the slightest clue what he's being invaded with, but by turn 31 I'd definitely hope Bogarus is using blood summons.

Bogarus' mage support is way better than C'tis. Individually they may not be as good, but everything Bogarus has costs less than half the price of what C'tis has and Bogarus has much better diversity.
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Is the behemoth worth it?
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>>172702371

It's just a bugfix.
Pretender autocalc currently gives a cost to disease healing, but not to full, heal-every-affliction healing, which is a much rarer and exclusive ability.
For the base game, this means the Bodhisattiva will be a bit more expensive.
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>>172737119
Yes, in summod. It's niche though. You'd mostly want a 99 morale undead trampler for sieges or to buff it (body ethereal and gift of flight work) and make it go ham on the enemy's rearguard.
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>>172737119
I've found it to be situationally useful.

It's basically an elephant minus many of the downsides, but at ten gems apiece it really needs buffs to make it worthwhile.

Drop ironskin, body ethereal, and flight (or at least two of those), and it'll murder things while ignoring most troops.

>>172737191
>For the base game, this means the Bodhisattiva will be a bit more expensive.
Glad to see this overpowered chassis is finally getting nerfed.

Maybe we'll get to see some of the underused pretenders like earth serpent in games.
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>>172737414
Ironskin is a personal spell. You're thinking legions of still or iron warriors.
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>>172737414
>>172737280
How do I make my mages target it and not mr. bones with 1 hp and no arms?
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>>172737554
Almost no way to predict what they're target, but if you set your mages and an elephant aside far away from other troops, they'll have no choice. Gift of flight is range 5, body ethereal is range 1, so just take 2 mages and an elephant and put them 5 squares away from everything else.
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>>172737530
Ironskin is the effect of the buff as well as the single target buff.

You'd need to use Iron Warriors (or Army of Lead/Gold) to buff your Behemoth, yes. I don't think Legions of Steel would do anything since the behemoth doesn't have any armor.

>>172737554
They should generally target it automatically if they're placed right next to it.

Mages usually target by hp and range, so if it's the highest HP thing on the battlefield and also right next to them they should go for it first.

If you want to be certain, put the mage and behemoth away from any other troops.
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>>172732108
You know what's even worse? Not doing a double turn.

Game: EANoMeme
Turn number 5
Next turn due: 12:05 GMT on Sunday April 2nd

Abysia Waiting for 2h file
Berytos Waiting for 2h file
Lanka Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan Waiting for 2h file
Therodos Waiting for 2h file
Vanheim 2h file received
Xibalba Waiting for 2h file
>Yomi Waiting for 2h file
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Welp, I built up a million triblessed maenads and vine ogres, backed up by geared up, landwalking Bishop Fish and regeneration spamming pans, with evocation casters and ethereal summons in reserve. All so I could stand a chance against the endless sea of undead apes.

Then Wannabee Sceleria AI'd, so I had to drop them on Abysia instead. This is a hollow victory, even for a meme game.
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>>172739505
>tfw no maenad gf harem
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>>172739505
I'm happy enough with how the fight went down. Probably should have just spammed earthquakes but whatever.
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>>172739670
>storming with 1300 maenads
What an idiot.
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>>172739820
Wait. It's all sacreds game. Derp. Still only worth it with mass flight.
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>>172739670
When my pans started autocasting protection, I knew a lot of naked ladies were going to die.
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>>172739505
So gg? Show graphs.
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>>172739670
>a mountain of boobflesh
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>>172739946
Its still technically going isnt it? Its just that the two of us were the only humans left. I'm technically still alive even.
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>>172739946
>>172740060
The game is effectively over, because Lanka's AI won't give divine blessing the priority it deserves. I don't particularly want to micro against AI until I get enough thrones to win. Lanka still has twice as much chaff as me, so I could have a few fights with them for the sake of impressive screenshots.
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>>172740406
But I mean we wouldn't see any graphs.
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>>172740502
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>>172740502
>>172740680
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>>172740502
>>172740680
>>172740780
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Just combine them into 1 picture you goof.
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>>172740502
>>172740680
>>172740780
>>172740907
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>>172740945
Gotta hit that thread limit.

Honestly, I thought Therodos would turn out to be a monster with everything is sacred, but I guess it takes more than that to make them playable. EiB was fun while it lasted, I'll go back to horribly losing vanilla and summod games now.
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>>172741017
>Mictlan ahead of Pan in army size
Slaves? Tribless slaves?
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>>172741395
I only fought Therodos as an AI but even then they got beaten easily every time.
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>>172741395
I was Therodos.
There were couple of mistakes made and I think I know how to rectify them. 1: Made too many land forts, which exposed them to the world where anyone can scout and attack; I should've focused more on UW provinces than land provs (this was because I wanted the death throne so badly). 2: I got into too much fighting early on; I should've slept UW forever until I had unlimited ghosts and BoT working in my favor.
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>>172741491
Slaves and access to level 3 priests so they could expand quick and snowball. Mitchlan was in a great position when he quit.
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>>172741697
I've was sat on the death throne since turn 3.
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>>172741491
I used F9N9B9, so yeah, tribless slaves and everything. I also got the reanimating hero on turn 3, so I had tribless skellingtons as well. F9 makes all archers god-tier too, so slinger groups were my initial expanders.
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>>172679667

It's pretty noobish, but it's the writing style, not just the content.
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>>172731182
>total number of provinces goes down in last few turns
what, did they drop off the map?
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>>172744031
indie attacks my dude. I would get everyone ran misf and someone took throne of Gaia or bones
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>>172744031
I dunno, that looks pretty close to me.

For the last 3 or so turns Ulm is losing provinces while Sceleria (Ermor?), Agartha, and Marignon are all gaining them to some extent.

It looks like a big drop for Ulm, but I think if you added the gains from all of those players together it'd largely work. Maybe a few indie attacks like >>172744136 said.
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>>172722886
>>172723056
>falling for the (((less magic))) meme
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>>172744803
When you can spam crossbows and win fights, there isn't a(s much) need to bring out magic.

Yeah, eventually crossbows lose effectiveness and stop working completely, but they'll get you through a decent chunk of midgame with minimal magic usage.
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Okay, so it seems that both ElfingAround and MAdman are taking forever to start. I'd rather join some other games then.

Admins, can you please remove my pretenders?
I'm Pelagia in ElfingAround and Ashdod in MAdman.

Thanks in advance.
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Fucking exhausted trying to figure out how to expand as LA Man without an Awake. Spamming tower guards doesn't work, spamming spearmen doesn't work (spearmen are really shit, like indie light infantry are better because they have javelins at least) spamming xbows doesn't work, spamming longbows REALLY doesn't work and mixtures...some sorta work? I had success with tower knights set to hold attack archers with spearmen set to hold attack closest, but that doesn't work against heavy cavalry. Really my biggest problem is fighting heavy cav because my xbows don't actually shoot at the cavalry when I tell them to fire cavalry, they fire at the mounted commanders which are out of range, so they run straight into the cavalry. Firing closest has them shoot the fucking militia in front of the cavalry. Tower Knights are great, but at 46 resources you're getting like 2/turn until you get your whole capring, and by that point you've already been conquered by some tribless dickhead
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Hey, I might be late getting back today. Can I get a 4 hour extension just in case? Hopefully I'll be able to submit it before the turn would've gone through, but I'd feel safer with an extension
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>>172749180
I know these feelings.
Also I'm going to stale, I'm sorry I simply forgot that I needed to do my turn, don't bother extending I'm dead anyways :(
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>>172749630
How do you do it mang? Mercenaries?
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>>172749950
2 groups of tower guards/crossbowman depending on resources , one set to fire the other in a line in front of them set to fire as well.

It didn't work great, but I managed to expand decently enough
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>>172750621
I'm getting 12-15 by spamming spears to get a few provs, then changing to spamming tower knights but that's slow as fuck. I tried 2-3 squads of xbows set to fire none in the hopes that they would choose sensible targets but they never fucking do
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>>172744031
>>172744649
2 barbarian attacks ( one of which on my capital 1 turn after i moved my throne capturer. dodged a bullet there).

but it was mostly agartha roaming my empire with undefeatable armies of umbrals and statues and a scary N9E9 fully geared mama.Also Ermor invaded.
i gave up on fighting them so i could focus on the thrones.
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>>172751503
Okay, fuck, I fuckin got it

You take one (1) province to get some resources, then you recruit nothing but tower knights. 8 knights can take any province losslessy by setting them to hold attack closest in line formation way back led by an indie commander
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>>172678726

Vanheim has sailing and cloud trapeze. You could also do Caelum since it's all fliers.
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>>172679345

You can autocast site searching spells? This changes everything.
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>>172739039
i started literally surrounded on all sides by heavy cav, this is awful.
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>>172735186
If you have N9 bless for shroud, Kin-Breaker.
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>>172755121

Kin Breaker is sacred and a priest moron.
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>>172755617
Ah, derp. No shroud needed then (n9 is still important though).
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>>172735186
queen of the city and telkhines probably
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>>172755695

It helps a lot yes
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Hey who's the host of baby_rngesus? Hey host if you are watching could you force hosting the turns when fomoria and Maverni are finished? The game has 3 stallers and at this point it's better to just let the players finish instead of setting them to ai and delaying the game even further. It's kinda obvious who's won at this point.
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also host of baby_rngsus change the hosting interval to 36 hours. There are only 2 players. It's not going to take long.
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Sorry Ulm, I don't know how that happened. Feel free to take it back.
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1/4
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>>172767320
2/4
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>>172767521
bitch i'm dead
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>>172767521
3/4
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>>172767724
explain this context?
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>>172767724
4/4
>>172767774
Malakal is TNN.

Got malak'd
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>>172767920
>our undefended province

You deserve everything that happened to you.
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>>172767320
>>172767521
>>172767724
>>172767920

We had a generic understanding about non aggression but it wasn't a nap as it lacked concrete terms for the duration.

Plus alliance always triumphs a nap in my book and I do not hide that I am allied to monkey-peoples.
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>>172768042
I do, my computer was stolen, along with my game notes, to do things etc. With all the stress and stuff I had to solve I forgot to do basic stuff. And the prov is literally in the middle of my realm.
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pale riders or manikins? Which one gives more bang for less buck?
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>>172768064
t. Malakal
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>>172768754
Well duh. If you were in the game it's obvious who that is.
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>>172768754
t.malakal
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>>172768198
>game notes
just lol
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What's the ME global that casts wailing winds in every battle?
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>>172769559
>malakal invades a guy he had a nap with on april 1st
it's pottery
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>>172772407
Taking a nap with malakal is more likely to get you from behind than a nap with cosby
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>>172772407
>>172772695

Guys we really didn't have a concrete NAP.
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>>172772982
le mayo. You lied, get over it.
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>>172773246

No, I know my thing, its not binding until both parties agree to a deal. If he thought we had a nap despite me not committing to one it sure isn't my problem is it?
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post either ichtyds or recruiting games
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>when a precious autistic child finally learns the mage support and how to kill SCs

I feel ok about it.
Maybe i'm not wasting my time here.
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>tfw you have identified the weakness in the enemy script that will let you kill thousands of gold in stuff with only a few hundred of your own
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This thread is as dead as Ermor and the game sucks.

(April fools)
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>>172777560
but anon the first part of that statement is true
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>>172775267
Is that an AI? The recruitment pattern looks a little off...
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>>172777724
I'm trying to force a meme, as this thread needs more memes to stay alive.
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>>172777913
anon, this is a blueboard...
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>>172777730
No, it's a really really bad or new. He's been failing to kill me for a while but he seems to be learning magic at least.

I'm a sub to a dead nation
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>>172777913
>tfw no GF who plays dominoes
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>>172779608
>tfw no bf who plays dominants
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>>172777560
What are you talking about Anon? Ermor is alive and well.
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>>172781069
W-wanna be my qt3.14 pretender waifu?
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>>172782152
only if youre either 6'2 or taller, or if you dont mind dressing up to be my qt3.14 pretender waifu when i want to dominate you
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>>172782152
>>172783143
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>>172783143
I am 6'2"
But I prefer my women biologically female
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>>172783959
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Alright since Hegude staled once in a 48 hour turn, looks like they will stale again, and has not contacted me, does anyone want to sub for him?
>>
>>172783959
if you always think everyones a tranny youll never find anybody anon

>>172784961
>;3<)
>>
>tfw want to play a non-anon game with people who aren't diplomonsters or those with a lot of experience and wins with the game
>have 500 hours and two wins on the spreadsheet so I would necessarily be excluded from the game as well

who else /not nooby but not good/ here
>>
>>172787776
>not good
You mean 95% of everyone here? Including me.
You are an intermediate. There are some games that keeps the players anonymous while it's open to anyone from noobs, intermediates, and veterans. There was one just a while ago NoMemes.
>>
>>172788060
I have described myself as "a 4/10 player but better than half of /domg/" before so yeah. I just feel like most big games get memed on by the usual suspects. And you know, I can hardly blame them for using their skills to win. It just feels a bit oppressive sometimes.
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Noob here, will this actually work or will I be fucked?
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>>172789158
IT DEPENDS
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>>172789158
Great army year 1 against people without any major blesses or mage support.
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>>172789158
At the very least, you want your cavalry going in behind your infantry. What'll happen here is the cavalry go in first, get stuck in on enemy troops, then your infantry will cut them off from behind. "Attack Rear" is a vague suggestion at best. If you want your cavalry to have a shot of getting at the enemy's back row, switch the orders. "Attack Closest" for the infantry and "Hold and Attack Rear" for the cavalry. Then move the cavalry blocks several squares further back.

What will happen is the infantry march forward and engage with the enemy. Actually your guys with throw javelins, which is a bit of a downside in this case. Then the cavalry move forward and look for an enemy to engage. What you want is for the surface area of your troops to be greater than that of the enemy's so that your troops naturally wrap around them and attack from the sides. You actually have very little control over this besides bringing many more troops to the battle. In general I'd say you want quite a bit more infantry, but, as always, >>172789225
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>>172789158
Another tactic no one has mentioned is using a possible lure in front of your infantry set to guard commander who will hopefully lure enemies set to attack closest toward the bottom or top of the map. If you have the lure heading to the bottom (ie, your commander is in the bottom middle of your formations set to holdx5), you can then have your knights WAY far back on the top on hold and attack rear, and they may (JUST MAY) get past the frontlines into the rear.

Getting into the rear is a bit of a luck gamble, and its actually easier with fewer troops as their blob isn't as big.
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>>172789158
White/blue/red mage casts Elemental!
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Senpai Nicknight don't let me stale! I'm working on my turn but I gotta send it via mobile..
t. Moat
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>>172790246
>>172789710
Thanks for the advice lads, i'll Make Ermor Great Again.
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Neifel I'll trade you 20D for a skull staff, and another 20 for a water robe
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>>172793609
forgot my name
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>>172793609
That's not me. This is me.
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>>172793609
no this is patrick
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>>172793732
>>172794707
>>172795008
I love this meme
>>172793609
this was me by the way, I looked away and didn't see my namefield was empty
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>>172793609
>>172795309
My bad my bad got the name wrong again. This is my actual name.
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Who is the Malakal
>>
>>172793609
Sorry, got the wrong game name, this is me.
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>>172795309
wow, great shitpost.

>>172793609
this is literally me right now, I posted while ony my phone and just forgot
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>>172796481
sauro
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>>172796775
>>172796651
>>172795548
>>172795309
>>172795008
>>172794707
>>172793732
Please stop this, I just want to trade with Neifel.

>>172793609
This is me, I forgot to but in my name.
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>>172793609
Ignore the memes. This is me.
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>>172797220
t. malakal
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>>172798198
fuck off carlix
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>>172793609
This is actually me, I will turn on bats if you trade Neifel.
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How much damage do elementals do when they attack? When I highlight their attacks, no damage stats are listed for anything other than the Air Elemental even though all of them have attacks.
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>>172800793
strength value
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>>172803373
It would be better if he said innovative new strat desu
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>>172803373
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>>172803373
are there actually people on this planet that think iron blizzard is that broken?

>>172804512
LA ulm is only good ulm, and probably the only fun blood faction to play
>>
when blitz?
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>>172804692
>are there actually people on this planet that think iron blizzard is that broken?
Iron Blizzard used to be nearly twice as good back when that image was made.

>>172804692
>LA ulm is only good ulm
Nah, all ages of Ulm are pretty great.

LA is probably the strongest, but they're a bit prone to getting rushed.
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>>172805419
I just like vampires
>>
>>172803465
Thus image predates innovative starts you uncultured swine.
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>>172806364
So do I, anon, so do I.
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>>172803465
Lurk moar newfag.
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