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Yet Another Collage Edition

RINGED CITY IS OUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED, STAY AWAY WHILE YOU PLAY IT BY YOURSELF

>Forgot about the Painting Guardians:
>>172560295


>Ringed City items checklist (if you find an error, please reply and correct):
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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I want to be impaled on Midir's giant corrupted cock while I feel the Abyss start to taint my body and soul.
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Is this kino in music form?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggWJLgN-Es
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>>172587889
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>>172587889
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Say what you will about the Gael fight, but man, that voice actor is pretty good.

His delivery on the "for my lady's painting" line is chilling. Fits really well with his insane/primal first stage.
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Yo, the item checklist is missing the slab you get for finding the Ringed Knight in the area you kill Gael in.
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Threadly reminder that this general shitted on Lud and Zallen when they were first revealed but unironically praise Fromsoft for Demon Princes when they're literally the same fight. Dark Souls 3 fags are ruining /dsg/.
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>>172588000
noice trips
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I feel like this might've been done before but here is Rome.

Other weapon is a follower javelin, and I have a composite bow in my left hand too.
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>>172587737
artorias wasn't human and he didn't become stronger, just more beastly
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>>172588075
Memehacki can do no wrong. Where do you think you are?
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You can only post in this thread if you solved the ''Show your humanity'' riddle by yourself
Brainlets need no apply
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>reminder that Miyazaki doesn't want to make another souls game and doesn't care if you want one

http://gematsu.com/2017/03/dark-souls-iii-director-not-concerned-whether-not-next-game-resembles-dark-souls

ac6 when
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Ornstein's spear+5 against Midir?

Does he take bonus damage from Lightning since he's a dragon?
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>>172588139
Right, bad example on artorias' part, the other bits are valid though. sorry I'm not sober
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So how do I get the new spell that is a lighting homing soulmass with zero animation?
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Is the Anor Londo bonfire FC still going?
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>>172587920
yuka's best song desu
its not overly in your face at first and spirals into complete madness in the end.
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why are dexfags so dumb
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>>172587889
"Oh god...hes putting his Abyss into my Catacombs!"
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>>172588075
People like The Demons? That boss was fucking gross.

Midir and Gael are pretty good. Gael isn't hard, but he's a fun fight at least. Same with Midir, actually.

Man, I just realized that none of the DLC actually was super challenging. I am suddenly filled with disappointment.
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>>172588150
*memehacksucky
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>>172587712
Can the ringed paired greatswords be parried?
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>>172588075
they actually have the gimmick of having different roles they can switch between
lud and zallen are just two copypasted aava
get fucked, leddit DaS2babby
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About to go respec solely to use the Aquamarine Dagger. Not even going to be a magic build, I just want to use the switchblade. Someone tell me why this is an awful idea
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>"waaaah no more generic dudes in armor bosses psl"
>certain "generic dudes in armor" are considered by players as some of the best bosses in the series
soulsfags live in denial
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>>172588224
yeah he's weak to lightning

>>172588213
that's fine. I want another souls game but if the designer isn't into it it's not going to be good

>>172588292
You could also be better at the game after playing a lot of souls. There is that effect as well.

I for example lost to every boss 3000 times since I only pvp and don't know what I'm doing against bosses anymore.
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>Load up Dark Souls 3
>Remember there is no Tonitrus
>Play anyway because Drang Hammers exist
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>>172588224
>Does he take bonus damage from Lightning
No. He's not as resistant to it as he is everything else though. That still means you'll do shit damage, of course. Just slightly less shit.
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>>172586458
Damn, dunno why it never occured to me to claw since that's how you gave yourself any semblance of control of the camera back when MH was still on the PSP. I'll give it a shot.
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>>172587889
go to his boss room then
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So have the spears slowed down at all levels or is there a sweet spot? Most fun invading into the shitshow of 3 mans that is this game in a long time.
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Comic guy here
Last post probably, I can edit the TRC edit to be more concise and cram in some more gags, but I feel like I'd be overstaying my welcome doing that.
Is the comic satisfactory as it is now or can some things be changed?
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>>172588075
I don't remember 2 cats having different movesets and the last one becoming a third stronger cat
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>>172588409
>yeah he's weak to lightning
He's not WEAK to lightning. He's got insane resistances to everything, his lightning resistances are just not quite as high as everything else. You'll do a little more damage with lightning, but it still amounts to chip damage and the fight is still a fucking slog.
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Is it worth putting points into luck for warden twinblades?
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What happens if you kill Gael where he brings you to the first DLC? IIRC that's the only time we meet him in person before his boss fight.
He probably just pulls Friede's vanishing bulshit and locks you out of the first DLC.
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>tfw it's time to CE the remaining spear ornaments because activity slows down
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>>172587712
>i actually got in with midir sperging out behind me

feel good brehs
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>>172588397
it might actually not be, I got fucking ROCKED in the arena earlier by someone using one, the thing is lightning fast and seems to have a shitload of phantom range on the running and sprinting R1's. Maybe I'm just shit tho, YMMV
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>>172583132
>Bamco
>releasing anything for free
>ever
you've been duped my friend
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>>172588258
>Havel Presses R1
You're literally no better than a spell caster, congrats.
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>>172588459
It feels like it has slowed down a lot today, at least for me.

Maybe it's giving priority to people who haven't maxed the covenant? Feels like ever since I maxed it things slowed way the fuck down.
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>>172588075
Lud and Zallen would probably work if your character had DaS3's speed and stamina management. But even then, I feel like it wouldn't be as balanced as the Demon Prince's first phase.
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>>172588562
potato, potahto
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>>172588534
I like both of the comics, they all cover most f the jokes so far.
I'd still have waiting 1-2 weeks for everything to settle down, but that's okay too
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>>172588581
You get an ornament for beating a spear as a host. Just revive the boss and keep bullying spears until you max it out.
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>>172588075
nu-/dsg/ sucked up this DLC real good, they still got From cum dripping from their chins.
I can not believe this general praised
Lud and Zallen 2.0
Old Monk 2.0 ( A shitty version of old monk)
Watered Down Orphan of Kos

Yet shits on the only good fight this DLC had to offer which was Midir.

It's probably because I've been in the same general for over 8 years. But fuck man this community has changed, all the new blood are shitters
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>>172588571
you can't kill him
he just respawns
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I just invaded someone at high wall of lothric and their phantom had chaos pyromancy is this normal?
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>>172588607
>using R2 makes it more skilled
This meme is stupid.
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>>172588356
Pls
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>>172588534
>no [muffled "Jingle Bell Rock" playing in the distance]
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>>172588534
just keep appending to it as we get new memes and meta, if it ever changes past this point
Really though, it seems fine my man.
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>>172588409
>You could also be better at the game after playing a lot of souls. There is that effect as well.

Nice "Souls 3 is only easy because you're a souls vet" excuse. Faggot. Why doesn't DaS3 have anything as tough as Ludwig/Laurence/Kos (ng+)
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>>172588772
High Wall is memester central so yeah. You'll find more ganks and passworded phantoms there than anywhere else (except maybe Pontiff).
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>>172588449
Claw helps in all forms of gaming, it's worth it to get used to it. I started clawing in DS1 and now I'm literally uncomfortable holding the controller without the claw.
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WHAT TIME IS IT
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>>172587712
Is the only way to get to the abyss dragon from the secret path in that underground church?
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>>172588592
they gave aldia for free so maybe we will get a last boss fight and a lore dump with
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What are the current good Dex and Str weapons?
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>>172588690
Midir is fun. In NG and NG+. Anything past that begins to get ludicrous to the point where the only thing you can do is Pestilent Mercury.
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>>172588534
Don't know where you'd fit it in, but you could include a joke about the Ashen One touching shit they really shouldn't be touching.

Wolnir's Chalice, Gael's painting scrap, the eggshell. I can't even be sure i'm not forgetting something.
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>>172588841
Why does BB not have anything as though as Midir (NG+)?

After you get maxed gems, not even NG+7 scales properly to combat your damage.
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>>172588929
It's feast time
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>>172588409
Based on interviews, Miyazaki seems like he wants to make a more expansive MMO-like game. That's probably his "something different" being made.

My prediction:

>E3 2017: Armored Core 6 Trailer, directed by Yui Tanimura. Bandai published, VR support, 7/10 (not as good as AC Verdict Day, but a solid game). Built on BB/DS3 engine.
>TGS 2017: Announcement of new Miyazaki-designed MMO. Has invasions, covenants, etc. but with player factions (like ACVD) and without the single player balance focus. Worldwide server a la Chromehounds / ACV/ACVD. Japan gets their own server, everyone else gets another. Sony published, PS4. Will get a PC port 6 months later. Has a new game engine that doesn't resemble souls.
>Spring 2018: AC6 released.
>E3 2018: Announcement of BB2 or "souls-like" new IP. Directed by someone new. PS4 exclusive, better than DS3 but worse than BB. More of the same. Co-op only, no invasions, cinematic linear story focus.
>TGS 2018: MMO Released
>Spring 2019: BB2/Souls-like release.
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>>172588929
Time for forced meme !
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>>172588841
Dude I don't care about the pve difficulty of dark souls since I play the games for pvp exclusively, but that still makes sense since bloodborne is mechanically distinct enough from the souls games to play almost like a different genre. You've done a fuckton of dark souls before you get to ringed city. Demon souls too, if you played that.

I think on a base level midir is still harder than, say, kalameet in das1. It's difficult to directly compare dark souls and bloodborne bosses for the reason I mentioned, though.
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>going to fight the Spear
>See Paired Greatsword

and that's when I pull the plug.
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>>172588613
i have 5 wins and i havent gotten summoned for the last ~400 posts
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>>172589039
Midir isn't even hard though. Used the patent-pending headbop strategy I practiced on hotdog so many times before. Killed him in 3 tries.

He's just health gouged to hell. The only hard part about Midir is that it takes 5 years to kill him, and longer if you're an elemental build.
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>>172588607
>quote from man after being ROCKED
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>tfw started using EGS because it scales S with strength with heavy
>"stop using HEGS"

I'm starting to see why where I didn't originally. Webm related.
Is there anything else I can use that scales S with strength that isn't the Cleaver, or Yorhms? I just wanna be able to use something new that takes advantage of strength.
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>>172589204
>Fight Spear
>Use Gothards to nuke the initial summon before the phantom appears
>Spear loads in with dual GS's
>Roll catch him 3 times with the Hollowslayer and point down as he fades away

I don't see your problem.
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>>172589157
predict THIS

*unzips crystal ball*
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>>172587889

Don't we all, Anon.
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Can you still level up / be summoned with the Spears covenant if you kill the boss?
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>>172589039
You can simulate a Midir experience by using a broken saw cleaver against whatever boss of your choosing :)
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>>172588398
I think that's always one of my favorites. People complaining about having to fights dudes in armor, but then list Artorias, Fume Knight and Gerhman as some their favorite fights, while most of the fights against giant monsters are kind of shitty.
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>mimic under the dragon in High Wall drops Symbol of Avarice
>mimic in the Cathedral drops Symbol of Avarice
holy shit, this is going to be a good run
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Making a str/faith build. Will putting in a heavy gem be any worse or better than a blessed gem if both stats are the same and the scaling is the same for both on the weapon?
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>>172589314
man, remember when DaS1 str weapons were bad and dex was meta?

what a long time ago it is
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>>172589020
>Anything past that begins to get ludicrous to the point where the only thing you can do is Pestilent Mercury.
I really need to see a webm or video of this, because I don't ever want to touch Dark Souls 3 ever again.
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This fucking attack is so sick. Boss felt like it was on par to Artorias.
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>>172589195

>I play the games for pvp exclusively

Why? These games are fucking awful for anything other than random invasion PvP, and even that's a stretch

Go play an actual balanced competitive game
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>>172589251
Exactly the point, you can get enough damage to make any BB boss easy since you kill them in a few mins, sometimes less.
None of that in DaS 3, Midir's attacks are around the same difficulty to dodge as the harder BB bosses, but he has so much HP that you have to either fight forever or risk getting one shot.
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>>172589650
>stop liking things
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>>172589585
A video of the Mercury or of the health?
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>>172589431
If you kill the Spear of the Church but don't touch the egg then yes.
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>>172589527
doesn't matter, blessed is too awful for anything you said to matter. just go heavy
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>>172589195
>since I play the games for pvp exclusively

So essentially you're stupid?
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>>172589728
constructive contribution to this conversation anon thanks for that
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>>172589704
Just mercury on the boss, his health pool didn't bother me too much but i only did it on ng+5 with anri luck build, it took a while sure, but i enjoyed it
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>>172589648
He looked dramatic as hell, but everything he did was so fucking easy to dodge. I also felt the lightning strikes should have used a different effect: the lightning didn't feel like it really fit with the rest of the effects going on.
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>>172589650
Because the PvE is pretty shit too since the combat system assumes players are too dumb to have more types of attacks.
At least in PvP you get to make people angry.
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>>172588534
breddy gud so far
keep adding to it if you get any new ideas, the whole general's brimming with TRC memes so early after its release, like "A happy Dark Soulâ„¢ to you" and what not
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>>172588841
BB plays differently enough. It's all about agression and fast-paced action. The skills you learn from Dark Souls just make you worse at BB from the get-go rather than help. But DS skills translate perfectly well into DS3 skills.
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>>172589792
It's not like you'd understand actual constructive criticism. Why waste my keystrokes on anything that doesn't involve mocking you?
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>>172589703
he asked for your fucking opinion on why you liked it you little sensitive faggot
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>>172589529
Not really, because then it was a different kind of bs.
Nothing has ever been balanced the way people want them without one thing being horribly broken over something else.
I for one welcome our new strength overlords since dex is still at least worth something in Das3.
Honestly I think things are fairly well balanced with a bit more favor to Str right now, it's just that people don't know how to deal with such things. This isn't CSS and Carthus Rogue levels of shit.
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>>172589798
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHAJB8rUiug
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>>172588781
>Unaware that there are more buttons on his controller than R1 and R2
>Unironically trying to defend unskilled melee combat

>>172589294
Hes an embarrassment to all melee builds in this game.


Havel babies go home.
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is it possible for the first mimic to drop the symbol of avarice? just curious
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>>172589527
Heavy gem, buff with Blessed Weapon or Lightning / Dorkmoon Blade
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>>172589961
>using R2 makes it more skilled
>for weapons where the attacks are near identical but the R2 is slower
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>>172589724
Why's that?

Lightning any better?
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>>172589886
I played BB after DaS, the skills translate perfectly.

>BB whines about orphan
>just parryfished him and every parriable boss to death
>if I ever missed a parry I'd regain my health with the next one anyway
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>>172589650
I mean yeah invasions are mostly what I'm interested in because of the diversity of situations. I'm not concerned about balance so much as depth; dark souls isn't a terribly deep game competitively, but invading in PvE areas makes it very dynamic. And honestly there's an aesthetic appeal for me in the range of thematically fun builds one can play.

I play melee competitively when I want to play a real game with depth.

>>172589937
You're wasting keystrokes on shitposting, aren't you?
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>>172587920
It has become one of my favorite tracks in the franchise. Gives off a really triumphant feel towards the third phase, it's almost nostalgic in a way.
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how long do you guys wait to get summoned as a spear? its usually 15~20+min for me at SL120
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>>172589648
you can't go wrong by making a boss pull some grandiose shit
heck, half the fun in fighting someone like Alonne is watching him do cool ass shit like his anti-gravity leaps
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>>172589314
is it the weapon being OP or them being weak?
is it the damage or the moveset? what's the issue people are having with this?
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>>172589959
Doesn't do as much damage as people around here make it out to be. Would probably be easier to just respec from pure caster and go into a melee build and slap his face silly
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>>172590101
It's not a waste honestly.
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>>172590101
>I play melee competitively when I want to play a real game with depth.
>smashfags are in this very thread

Play a real fighting game like SF you faggot
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>>172590089
>I played BB after DaS, the skills translate perfectly.
>rambles about parrying
so you only fought gwyn?
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>>172589985
Yeah, its RNG.
Once you get Loyd talismans, you can cheese it:
throw talisman, pick up item, wait until it folds back in and repeat.
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Spoil me on TRC. i need to know if it's worth it
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>>172589886
>The skills you learn from Dark Souls just make you worse at BB

I mean, MAYBE if all you did was sit around holding a shield up.
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So what was the deal with that weird egg thing?
What was the black goo inside?
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>>172588000
Trips of truth

Also fighting figuratively Guts as the final boss is pretty cool I guess
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>>172590271
It's a good dlc
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>>172586817
You just described every dex weapon in the game
Sharp infused greatswords do not count as dex weapons.
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>>172590249
DaS is basically nothing but parrying except for some bosses. I can still on sight parry the black and silver knights perfectly even after months of not touching the game.
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>>172590236
>SF
>Real fighting game
Haha
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How likely am I to get banned if I use CE to respec because fucking going to NG+ to talk to Rosaria again
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>>172590061
Any suggestions for weapons?
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>>172590196
What's the difference?

>>172590236
Street fighter isn't as satisfying as melee to me, you can't move nearly as fast or in nearly as many interesting ways.
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>>172590404
Yeah why play a shallow easy fighting game like SF when you can play the deepest fighting game known to man Dark Souls!
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>>172590271
Gameplay is great.
Lore is nice but nothing earthshattering and no asnwers to questions left open by the base game.
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>>172590271
It has two swamps and two run from ranged attacks sections
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>>172590271
If you played Ashes of Ariandel, then you pretty much experienced TRC.
The only difference is TRC has 3 bosses instead of 1.
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>>172590249
DaS is all about parrying the regular mobs.
BB is that but also adds it to most bosses.

if you can parry well mobs in DaS you will have no trouble in BB
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Can anyone help me get to the end of AoA on PS4 my build does barley any damage at the moment cus my weapons arnt upgraded. I'll be at the corvian settlement bonefire pw is fire
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I was not expecting the angels to be as creepy as they are. But I suppose that's pretty accurate to the bible.
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>>172588690
>It's probably because I've been in the same general for over 8 years
I'm fairly certain that /vg/ is has not been around for 8 years, chief. If it has, then that's terrifying.
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>>172589706
you can touch the egg and kill the boss what are you on about
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>can only kill a max of two phantoms before i'm forced to BSC
>Get nothing for my efforts
>why bother invading?
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>>172590271
PvE is generally like Brume Tower with regards to enemy HP and damage. +3 rings are worth, bosses are pretty alright. 6/10
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>>172589843
This
His hit boxes were too precise for his own good.
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>>172590192
please respond! i want to know what's wrong with it
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>>172590271
suffers from das2 syndrome of throwing lots of enemies at the same time but it's good in terms of content

lore speaking, it just makes it even more fucked, all the "answered" questions just bring more questions
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>>172590632
>oh that's a nice golden light
>get cursed
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>>172590454
Lothric Knight Greatsword
Eygon's Hammer
Butcher Knife
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>>172590651
A little under five.
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>>172590493
sfv is shit. less shit than 4 but its still awful
nobody plays 3s anymore and all the people who play st are still are way better at it than me

so playing sf is kinda out of the question
lmao pay 50$ for all the characters
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>make new character for the dlc
>reach past pontiff sulyvahn bonfire
>two aldrich faithfuls invade me at the same time
>i 1shot them both
>mfw
i guess my newest build works well
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In the end, was Gwyn justified?
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>when Morion Blade and Red Tearstone proc and you hit twice with the second BKUGS hit on Midir's head for a 3500 damage combo
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Is this thing any good/fun? I'm currently trying out the MLGS, and although it doesn't fit the build perfectly, it still looks like a blast to use. Maybe as an off-hand weapon?
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>>172590271
Lore is ludicrously complicated and makes little sense, the two different sections are almost entirely vertical, there're two swamp areas, areas where you have to run away from angels firing blessed M60s at you while you can't do shit about them (one of them being the swamp area and another being on a big ass branch above the swamp area), the bosses except for Midir are rehashes of other designs, Midir is nigh unkillable without cheese at high NG+ cycles.
But hey, the gear is pretty good, I guess.
Take from this what you will.
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>start DLC
>do no damage to mobs
>everything is a damage sponge
>decide to just skip mobs and rush through dlc
>bosses have obscene amount of health


Why did Fromsoft follow Blizzard's philosophy and just multiplied enemy health values by obscene percentages? The thralls in earthen peak have as much health as Soul of Cinder
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>>172590086
blessed removes a bunch of damage from the weapon, and the faith physical scaling you get doesn't come close to making up for it. plus you can't buff it anymore

lightning can be decent on weapons that already have base lightning damage. personally I would buff with blessed weapon (the spell) or DMB/LB if you're going 50+ faith and go with heavy infusion
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>>172590781
is that shit actually worth using?

haven't touched hypermode since it was nerfed to the ground like two games ago
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>>172590632
>accurate to the bible
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>>172590848
nigga what

I kill peak thralls in two hits and the demons are p. squishy

after that not so much but midir is basically a superboss and gael is the final so
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>>172590752
Play some fuckin' Guilty Gear, Skullgirls or JoJo's Bizarre Adventure's 2D fighting game that Capcom made way back when
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>>172590625
What sl
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>>172590754
What build ya running pham
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Has the blseed weapon miracle been buffed or something?
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>>172588924
How specifically do you hold it for DaS? Thumb on stick, index on buttons, middle on R1 and ring on R2? Or thumb on stick, middle on R2 and index working both buttons and R1? The former feels like it's better, as that means I can roll attack and just attack and dodge at the same time better than with the latter (I'm not sure what to do with my pinky, as it isn't really providing much 'essential' grip on the controller when I do the first hold, but leaving it hanging in the air feels weird as hell).
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Hey guys, check out this weird dog.
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>>172590848
>>172590913

Do we have a confirmed health pool for these enemies?

I know in SOTFS the DLC enemies scaled with either your SL or SM or something and would have slightly more health as you leveled up.
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>>172591032
Cute!
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>>172590653
So can I finish the rest of the DLC and still be able to interact with the covenant?
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>>172590849
Holy fuck that's an awful infusion. Thanks for letting me know

Any suggestions for weapons on str/faith? Adding DMB/LB sounds awesome
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>>172590454
Lothric Knight UGS is amazing with a lightning buff, be it the miracle or resin, since it has already has lightning damage.
Dragonslayer's Axe is the same.
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>>172591032
I still want him to mount and fuck me
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>>172589961
>there are more buttons on his controller than R1 and R2
Yeah, but those are the only buttons that cause the character to do an attack. A havelbuild could press L1 all he wants but that doesn't kill anybody.
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>>172590765
His intentions were noble (preserve the prosperity of the Age of Fire, even at the cost of his own life), but he inadvertendly put the entire world into a spiral of increasingly shitty cycles of fire, with no chance of truly moving forward.
So no, not really.
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>>172590913
I'm playing on NG+6
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>>172590651
he is talking shit, /vg/ is about 5 years old
>inb4 I was in the DeS /v/ threads
yeah my ass, DaS2babby
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>>172591032

CUTE

Can you fight him like that? I feel like he's too big normally.
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>>172590790
the weapon art completely shreds everything in pve on my 40 int pyro
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Finally, Midir is fucking dead.
Took a few dozen tries and several weapon swaps but i got him. Playing unlocked and dodging away from his melee, rather than into him, helped a lot with head hits.
Been awhile since i've been this glad to take a boss down, once i got the hang of it he wasn't so bad.

Weapon movesets are a huge deal for the fight. imo
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>>172591083
60 faith

heavy infusion got buffed last patch and you can still use weapon buffs on it

you'll hit like a truck with LB
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>>172590996
it never needed a buff

it needed to be moved to earlier in the game so faith players actually have a fucking offensive miracle that is worth a shit

that's pretty much the crux of the issue with faith, all the good shit you actually want is only gotten when you're basically already done with the game, there is no gradual building up of power like a STR character where you upgrade your weapon as you go along
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>>172590752
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxHcwvG-uT4

>souls is PvE focused because AC is From's multiplayer franchise now

If you stop progressing in the game because you want to fight other people, you're playing the game wrong. You're supposed to go onto NG+.
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>>172591123
If your L2 or L2R1 doesn't deal damage you're a shitter.
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>>172590790
It's decent, but nothing great. Doesn't really transition well into a Moonlight build either. Respec a bit if you really want to try it, but I'd say it isn't worth it.
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>>172591163
FOUND YOUR PROBLEM
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>>172590848
I made a new character just to do the DLC because I wasn't going to deal with the giant health pools to experience content, and Fromsoft nerfed my weaponfu Anris so fuck them
Thralls took 4 hits from my +10 Great Club before dying, so annoying
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>>172590982
onyx blade with 30/30 int/faith and dark clutch ring with a small shield for parrying
it's a work in progress, will take pics tomorrow if i remember to
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>>172590875
It's okay, good if you don't anticipate getting hit. You're better off just equipping Lloyd's Sword ring and keeping healed up if you want a little bit more damage though.
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>>172591032
PET IT
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>>172591131
So what would have happened if he didn't extend the age? Wouldn't it all be darkness and shit
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Do I lock myself out of the spear covenant if I enter the boss room? I don't wanna risk it.
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>>172591394
No, it doesn't matter
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>>172590979
70
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>>172591331
Why 3030
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Am I the only person that got aroused from fighting Midir? That dude presents himself A LOT. His ass is so incredibly detailed mmm mm mmph.
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>>172587889
His cock is at least five feet around, anything less would look ridiculous. At best you can work your tongue in the slit and stroke the shaft with your body.
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How does /dsg/ feel about this boss music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggWJLgN-Es
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>>172591501
See my posts, >>172587889 and >>172591121
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>>172591474
that's what it's at right now, i will stop at 40/40
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how is it that Gael's crossbow is both accurate and hard-hitting during his boss fight but the one we transpose from his soul is one that:
>deals laughable damage
>can't hit the broad side of a barn at point blank
>can only fire half the amount of bolts Gael could in rapid succession
someone tell me how to make this thing work, I'm still in grief over the fact that this isn't a DaS3 version of BB's gatling gun but by god I want to make this piece of shit work
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I fucking love being a spear bong
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>>172591331
weapons with even int/fth damage do better damage when you max one stat and keep the other low
just grab the reqs for w/e spell and then pump the other stat to 40 like a normal weapon
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>>172591625
Because if it was a good weapon , people would bitch and call it p2w, this is why DLC weapons aren't allowed to be good
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>>172591163
You don't think that might have something to do with it? Everything in the DLC has very reasonable health pools aside from Midir, but that's his point.
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>>172591649
noted, thanks
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>>172591501

No.
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>>172591526
Hence why I said impaled. Though, what you said sounds good too.
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I fucking love this dlc
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>>172591545
God-tier

But what else did you expect from our girl?
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>>172591347
Maybe, maybe not.
Beacuse of how things went down we don''t know.
Maybe Man would have risen to dominance, powered by the Abyss.
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>>172591632
>A connection error has occured. Returning to your world.
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DEMON PRINCE DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>172591716
>dlc weapons aren't good
>ringed knight paired greatswords
are you playing the same game as me
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How would Bloodborne been if it was published by Namco Bandai?
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>>172591749
real lyrics
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How do I have fun with DS2? Beaten DS1 and Bloodborne through and through, was sick of DS2 by the time I reached that first Giant boss.
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>>172591754
When the FUCK is the age of the deep
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is there a trick to getting summoned as a spears of the church guy?
I'm sitting here out front with the covenant on, it's pulsating but I haven't been summoned in like 30 minutes. I see people putting down their red signs, is that required or is this just a new pvp hotspot?
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Well, that was spooky. Emma just summoned me but she was already dead.
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>>172591726
The base mobs in AoA have like 1/8th the health of the base mobs in TRC at ng+6.
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>>172591275
>havel build
>R2
>now he's covered in dirt
Wow amazing good stuff you really know the secrets haha those havel shitters am I right haha?
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>>172591463
Why not go to +8 weapons at least?
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>>172591716
but half the DLC weapons are vastly superior to the base game's weapons, like all of the ringed knight weapons, ledo's hammer, etc
it's only the first cool ranged weapon in ages that isn't allowed to be good
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>>172591082
yeah dood, still works just fine. don't even need to revive the church spear giant
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So, /dsg/ what do you guys think Midir would use if he was human?
I want mock up Midir builds featuring weapons, armor and playstyle.
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I come bearing a gift, /dsg/. Please accept it:

http://archiveofourown.org/works/8785297?view_adult=true
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>Kill over 100 Ringed Knights w/ Covetous +3
>5 Ringed Knight Hoods
>4 Ringed Knight Armor
>5 Ringed Knight Leggings
>Zero Ringed Knight Gauntlets
Holy shit, I'm about to lose it.
Does anyone have a spare they wouldn't mind dropping for me on PS4?
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>>172591749
>girl

Please be a virgin.
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>>172591716

>DLC weapons aren't allowed to be good
>Millwood axe
>twin UGS
>not good
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>>172591803
2h weapons are still outperformed by 1h weapons in Dark Souls 3, are you playing the same game as me?
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>>172591226
Yeah I think they could've solved it by staggering the miracles a bit better. When I did my fai/dex build I was pretty much pure dex and didn't even level faith at all until every single one of my other stats were levelled completely.


There should be a lesser lightning blade miracle found really early in the game with low base damage added by high multipliers for your faith stat to ensure only faith builds can take advantage of it over resins. Blessed weapon should be the mid tier between lesser and greater lightning blade and the fucking darkmoon blade should not have been locked behind 30 levels of the fuck you coveneant.
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>>172591883
Exactly, if you aren't using a weapon where either of those commands is a damaging one you're using a faggot build.
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>>172591928
I will also count Dragon Head as armor, but not body.
>>172591962
I can hit you up famalam. Where you want me?
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>>172591905
Yeah don't know all the upgrade item placements in the game but I'm running though most of the game rn collecting shit
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>>172591754
>powered by the Abyss
doubt.jpg

>>172591831
fires fade, deep (aka dark) settles in
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>>172591856
happened to me too
I had no idea where I was right before the dlc
didn't have dragonslayer armor bonfire so i killed him
gotttard wasn't dead so I went and killed yhorm
got teleported to dancer bonfire?
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>>172590712
anyone?
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>>172591748
He ran past so much cover, too.
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>Outrider Knights can knock me out of Canvas poise casting with any attack
>Some bosses cant even knock me out of Canvas poise casting
Fucking why
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>>172591206
>Weapon movesets are a huge deal for the fight
Been trying to get him with the greataxe after using swords for a while, and the instinctive R1 at the end of a roll not only fails to to hit (ever), it usually stops me long enough for it to cost me some health. Might look into Propane or Lothric UGS.
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So I fucked up and before realizing it, I was fighting Gael and I killed him on my first try. Problem is, I didn't fight Midir even once.

Did I lock myself out of some content because I killed Gael?
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>>172592068
The Ringed City Streets bonfire, if you wouldn't mind.
Pass is vidya, thanks again anon.
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>>172591798
it got its ass kicked by a fuccboi, that's enough
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>>172591928

Katana hexer with Pursuers, WoG and spamming running R1s.
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>>172592192
Only completing Shira's quest
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>>172591545
Pure kino
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>want to co-op in the dlc
>put down white soapsign
>still have Rosaria's covenant on
>get summoned as Spear-boss against some Boris from Baluchistan
>Connection is so terribly he flies through the sealing a few times
>manage to get him out of estus by R1 spamming
>Connection Error

What the fuck is going on with the Spears connection. Give my spot to some schmuck who actually wants to play boss.
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>>172592009
>1 handed weapons beating super armor for every frame of the weapon art
good j0ke
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Somebody I know seems to think the dreg heap is the abyss???
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I hate fights like Midir and Nameless King

Because the boss arena fucks with my depth perception
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>>172591874
You mean like the pathetic dying corvians that you're supposed to run past because they aren't a threat?
Or are you comparing the small wolves to the Harald Knights.
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>>172592085
Early men were close to the Abyss.
That's why Gwyn got scurred of them.
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>>172592276
Fuck so that means I cant get her armor...
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>>172592297
>t.pvp fag
Sorry I'm speaking strictly in regards to PvE, not your side mode thrown in at the last minute.
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>>172592413
You don't need to do her quest to get her armor lad
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>>172592413

You can, her door will be open and you can just loot her corpse.
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>>172592229
I need specifics m8
I'm considering making this build happen.
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>>172592413
yes you can. And you can get the slab too. She'll still invade you in the area where gael was and her armor will appear after she's dead.

>>172592436
>2 handed weapons are bad in pve against bosses who can't punish them when they have strictly higher AR in 99% of cases
would you look at that you're still fucking wrong
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>Summon three phantoms.
>All are wearing havels.
>All three die before Midir gets to 1/5th HP
>Take Midir down to half before dying.
Fuck.
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>>172592436
>strictly in regards to PvE
nothing matters in pve
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Pygmy lord dialogue seems to imply that the desert is the real Ringed City, and the egg shell was the only think keeping the city from vanishing. It's also possible that we found it kinda broken because Gael got to Filianor first and just barged in ready to cannibalize some dark meat

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v9YWuozAuQ&t=1300s
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>>172592409
Early men weren't aware of what it was they were messing with, they were just prototyping the "drive humanity wild" techniques with armor and weapons forgings, like making abyss embers and shit. The Abyss didn't work out for TRC when it really let loose anymore than it did for Oolacile. The Gods were right to put a lid on that shit, it's like watching a city of pyromancers start experimenting with chaos embers and going "maybe you should stop that before one of you explodes your soul and births a race of demons"
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uuuugh this isn't fun anymore, NG+5, everything in TRC one or two shots me, maybe 3 if I wear plate armor with defensive rings. Meanwhile I do so little damage my weapons almost break during a single boss fight.
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>>172592115
OP.
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>>172592115
>>172590712
>>172590192
There's nothing wrong with it, people just can't deal with it being a good weapon now.
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>>172592057
Well you started this shitposting reply chain by saying Havel builds are cheap for using R1.
If they're in a havel build their only options are R1 and R2. You can't just backpedal and say they should be in a different build altogether to have more options because you're mad that they're able to win with their limited options.
You're a retard.
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do you guys feel bad about wrecking people as a spear?
how many pve only people are going in blind and getting fucked?
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>>172592520
>Take Midir down to half before dying.
lol, how long did it take you? 1 hour?
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>>172592587
Just make a new character, ask for some souls from a mule on /dsg/ or transfer some weapons over and do the DLC on NG. Anything higher than NG is unfun and tedious. 800 AR Ledo Hammer and still takes 4 hits to kill basic bitches on NG
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>>172591836
>>172591836
>>172591836
>>172591836
pls
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>>172592634
The real PvE'ers play the games offline for their first run.
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>>172592192
No, you can go to Midir without Shira's directions.
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>Wanted to post something really, really urgent
>Thread full
>Go to next thread
>Completely forgot what I wanted to post
It starts. I'm hollowing.
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>>172592634
I don't think solo host has any chances to win
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>>172592598
>>172592602
>>
Holy SHIT Aquamarine is fun. If you spec completely for this thing and ignore using spells or any other weapon, it gets up to around 400 damage.

Plus it is pure style. No regrets about building for this lil switchblade.
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>>172590752
>nobody plays 3s anymore and all the people who play st are still are way better at it than me
You're such cancer.

First, download fightcade, you can get a match against another scrub in ten minutes.

Second, people hated Third Strike. SF4 was like the coming of Christ because people were so sick of Chun Li mirrors and nonexistent zoning. Balance was dogshit and the dominant strategy was whiffing normals and hit confirming low forward.

Here's the Evo top 8 characters from Wikipedia:

2004:
Yun
Ken
Chun Li
Chun Li
Alex
Dudley
Ken
Ken

2005:
Chun-Li
Chun-Li
Yun
Yun
Chun-Li
Dudley
Chun-Li
Chun-Li

2006:
Yun
Yun
Chun-Li
Yun
Yun
Chun-Li, Urien
Chun-Li
Ken

2007 (shitters flooded the bracket because not many Japanese players showed up):
Chun-Li
Chun-Li, Urien
Ken, Ryu
Makoto
Chun-Li
Necro
Chun-Li
Ken

2008:
Chun-Li
Chun-Li
Chun-Li
Chun-Li, Urien
Chun-Li
Akuma
Ken, Yun
Yun, Ken

2009:
No singles tournament, just a 2v2 competition which was won by a Yun / Chun Li team.

2010:
Third Strike dropped from the line-up.

People were joking that it was Capcom's Third Strike designing a fighting game, and now they'll never make another one, for about a decade.
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midir is such a bad fight
>inflated hp
>boring move sets
>inflated damage
>useless long run to him without any enemies
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>>172590625
I'll help at for boss fights if it's not too much of a challenge run
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>>172592765
what? I won it as solo host. It took a couple tries after the spear got healed by guardian bullshit but once I figured out how to punish the guardians I was pretty fine.
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>>172592634
I purposefully do nothing to give them a chance.
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>>172592765
First solo play: won first try
Second solo play: won second try
If you're not awful at pvp it's fine.
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>>172592510

I'm thinking of a buff body build, but with "edgy" fashion. Can't think of any armour that would combine the two though. You could also add Claws and Whip to match his other attacks.
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everyone is talking about how hard gael is and I can't get past that bullshit trek from the interior down the stairs past 8000 blackface fatties and like at least 6 ringed knights to wherever the fuck the bonfire is, btw where the fuck is the next bonfire so i can sprint to it
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>>172592068
Thanks again anon, nice fight
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>>172592818
>First, download fightcade, you can get a match against another scrub in ten minutes.
Everything after this line is irrelevant, stop shitting up this thread
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>>172592824
>Long run
You realize there is a shortcut right
It takes like 20 seconds to get back
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>>172592587
>NG+5
I find this very funny. Pretty much you expected NG+5 vanilla being hard right? And now TRC gives you real NG+ experience. Why you don't like it? What are you doing at NG+5?
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So how many new enemies in the DLC?

>murkmen
>harald legion knights
>ringed knights
>monkey priests
>turtle priests
>locust men

Is that all of them?
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>>172592960
I always go through dark souls areas running which is probably why I'm so bad at actual bosses. The bonfire is in the swamp, to the right up some stairs past a dickhead locust.
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>>172592765
the fight is easiest as a solo what drugs are you on. 15 estus vs no estus and only extremely slow miracles. I slapped the absolute shit out of the scrub who invaded me.
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Wait, does Vordt's Greathammer frostbite proc give additional damage? I'm getting like 1000+ damage 2 hit combos on people in heavy armor, it's fucking neato.
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>>172592968
This shield is one of the best zoning tools in this game I swear to god
gf
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>>172592824
The run isn't that far though. His health pool being fucking massive is a valid complaint, though.

I will say I don't think his damage is unreasonable, at all. Though I think his fire knocking you over is obnoxious as fuck, especially with how poorly defined the AoE is.
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>>172592803
it's the ivory straight sword done right, it's a great side weapon for a greatsword of judgement build
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>>172592732
Post source and I'll tell you.
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>>172592765
I beat it with hardly any estus against a laggy guy, get guder
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>Just lost 8 days of save data due to my save backup failing for some reason
I'm beyond pissed right now. I want to fucking punch a hole in my wall.

I did it EXACTLY how I've done it any other time, but for some reason my save didn't backup properly this time.
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FUCK
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>>172593037
The tallboys that summon shit
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>>172593073
>scrub who invaded me
This is your problem. "Scrub"
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What new weapons are you all enjoying? I've been just fooling around with the doors.
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>>172592913
I'll find something. Which Whip do you think would be the best? Witch's Locks?
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>>172592634
How could I feel bad when BECOMING UNSTOPPABLE is this much fun?
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>>172593037
angels?
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Where are you guys going to play the DLCs in a playthrough? I used to go through Ariandel right before I head to Lothric Castle. I guess I would do Ringed after all Cinders are placed.
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>>172592824
ALL

THAT

SAG
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Is there any build that mixes melee with some kind of spells that doesn't fucking suck?
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>>172593037
Murkmen (melee)
Murkmen (caster)
Harald knights
Angels (+grower)
Judicator Giants
Pygmies (normal)
Pygmies (curse)
Ringed Knight (SS+small shield)
Ringed Knight (spear + greatshield)
Ringed Knight (UGS)
Locusts

A pretty good average. Better than most fromsoft dlcs.
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>>172592634

I don't even remember how many hundreds of people I have raped as a bellbong in DkS2, this is nothing.
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>>172593332
yeah it's called quality build
>quality
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>>172593332
no
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>>172593332
Pyromancer.
Paladin, if you want to do 2v2s/3v3s/PvE
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>>172593332
Yeah but you'll be level 300
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>>172593165
>>172593283
Those are stage hazards not enemies.
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>>172593153
hey, how is the murky longstaff? is it supposed to be a izalith staff without faith scaling?
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>>172593276
Yeah, perseverance works until you get 3 fags using the dual greatswords.
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>>172593367
bellbong cancer brings me back holy shit

man das2 was mechanically garbage but so many of the pvp ideas were so clever
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>>172593074

it's a bit of damage + lowered stamina recovery + lowered defenses

it's a pretty strong debuff now
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>>172593028
Regular game NG+5 is fine somehow, but everything not a weak-ass mob in TRC feels way too OP. Like, using a fully upgraded black iron shield in full black iron set to block Midir's fire-under itself breath attacks breaks my guard and does about 70% of my hp unless I'm at 100% stam.
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>>172593332
>wanting to cast spells like a girl
what are you, a fag?
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>>172593332
Onyx Blade/Demon Prince Sword build
Meleemancer

MLGS (Str/int) or Friede's Scythes (Dex/int) use your choice of focusing on melee or int. 60/40 if melee, 40/60 if ranged focus.


Outside the demon prince pyromancy weapon you won't be able to go in an out of casting and meleeing smoothly
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>guys lagging so bad they're invisible for 1.4th of the fight
>even after becoming visible, so laggy that I was just mashing R1 against them and taking damage from nothing
>they win
>point down
This is why I support bombing shitskin countries.
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>>172593257

Yeah, I think that would be fine, maybe a bit too flashy, but I don't think the normal whip is that good.
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>>172593453
It's trash. I don't even know why he use it. Buff gives you 50 more damage than court. That's all. Without buff it's trash
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>>172592734

I played that fight online because I wanted to get the true Dark Souls(tm) experience. Took me two tries because at first it was not only my first match after 5 months and the dude was using lol2UGS. Had no idea what to do. I still don't but I'm not really planned to get ""seriously"" into Souls PvP again anyway.
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>>172593117
http://imgur.com/a/BZN0m

better keep your word nigga
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>>172592913
Maybe some sort of Ringed Knight Fallen Knight mix? Drang?
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>>172593514
>Regular game NG+5 is fine somehow,
Because the people who designed the base game had experience and talent.
Whoever made this DLC just shat all over a keyboard knowing they'll get paid for it anyway because you got the season pass!
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>>172593179
Even if the dude invading you is good you have to be asleep at the wheel to let them chew through your healing. With no summons the painting guardians go down easily so if the host tries to be clever with 15 ashen estus heal themselves they will do so and give you ample opportunity to kill their guardians, once that happens they will never have enough time to self heal again. A solo spear fight means they barely get more damage resistance/health than they normally have and get no extra poise. It's a massive mismatch.


It completely changes once you start using summons though, with 3 phantoms the spear has what feels like 90% damage resistance and infinite poise. Completely impossible to melee without getting rekt.
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>>172593415
not that anon but is there anything caster related that doesn't involve pyromancer? everyone uses pyromancer.
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>>172593606
why did i click on that
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>>172593514
I blame disastrous vanilla NG+. Why From made NG+ ez mode? There is basically no difference between NG and NG+ except drops
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Best Dex weapons?
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>>172593562
but it's supposed to be a dark sorceries staff, right?
it doesn't even beat court sorcerer unbuffed for dark sorceries?
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>invade some faglord
>he and his buddies clearly are waiting in a cleared area for invaders to gank them
>1vs3 his ass

>invade 30 minutes later
>same guy
>1vs3 again
>he jumps off the cliff before i deal final blow
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>>172593549
looks like someone is a sandy cunt himself
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>>172593703
It's because other casters are generally pretty bad. Lightning with DSS or DSSS is alright, but Pyro is just the best by far and competes the best with meta builds.
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MLGS or Friede's?

I guess MLGS for PvE and Friede's for PvP?
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>>172592765
Pretty much, I got 30 straight wins to reach the maximum allegiance through almost nothing but solo-ers. Then again, I went solo and it only took me two attempts. I guess getting lucky plays into it tho, hoping the Spear you face is a complete shitter. Still, how anyone can lose even in a 1v3 with those buffs and spell assists is beyond me.
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>>172593453
Its great, best dark sorcery staff their is

>>172593562
Why would you use court for dark spells dumbass
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>Initiate Spear of the Church fight
>forgot im online
>some faggot joins and keeps running away from me
>close the application
>relaunch in offline mode

Faggots
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>>172588534
Gaels not that much of a literal who
If you put some thought into his characters pretty ok.
Dks in general is a lot of fridge logic.
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>>172593747
Aquamarine Dagger
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>>172593648
>Because the people who designed the base game had experience and talent.
DS3 has worst NG in series
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>>172593636
>ringed knight

That's what I was thinking, except for its chest piece. The giant Dark Sign just doesn't fit.
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>>172591191
He struggles
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>>172592960
You can run past it all, like extremely easily. The enemies don't even bother chasing you in this DLC.
Sprint through the first doorway so the "ambush" doesn't hit you and non of the other little dudes will even stand up before you're out of their aggro radius.
Just run off the broken balcony to the right of the first ringed knight while he's getting ready to do his wannabe-cool lightsaber tricks.
Obviously the clerics can't touch you if you keep moving. Near the bottom of the spiral staircase jump off (at a point where you won't take fall damage) and unless you're sprinting the ringed spear knight won't even notice you're there. If he does notice you, he doesn't even follow you out of the room.
Now here's the ONLY hard part in the entire run; when you pass the first two Harald Knights roll to i-frame their attacks. They might hit you if they chose different, slightly differently-timed attacks. If they do it doesn't matter, keep running. If you get hit by the single Harald after them you're bad.
When you get to the bottom of the stairs the 3 new Haralds will just be rising out of the mud. You'll get past them before they fully emerge, they won't even aggro to you.
The small bugs run away from you, and there's one big bug that will try and fail to attack you as you run past up the stairs to the bonfire.
This entire DLC is extremely easy to speedrun through, even when it's possible for the enemies to chase after you they just give up the chase as soon as you turn a corner.
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>>172593549
>Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1.400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool. The consequences of intermarriage between first cousins often have serious impact on the offspring’s intelligence, sanity, health and on their surroundings
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>>172593606
There is no real trick, no.
Invading works, though, so take out your red eye orb in the area and try to force your way in instead of passively waiting in line.
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What weapon does Lapp wield?
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>>172593910
I love it though.
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>>172593332
This is one i'm currently using for my second playthrough of TRC.

Lightning Arrow is incredibly fast and does decent damage. Raw ASS, Lightning Carthus Curved Greatsword and/or Mad King's Crucifix as weapons.
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>>172593983
Splitleaf Greatsword. You can buy it from the lady at the start of the DLC.
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>>172593919
>he still does the same amount of damage
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>>172593983
black knight halberd I think, or that splitleaf one i forget.
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>>172593879
you mean
>die
>alt+F4 before it gives me 3 ornaments for spanking you and your phantoms
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>>172593919
He has a lot of heart though.
He really tries.
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>>172593757
>it doesn't even beat court sorcerer unbuffed for dark sorceries?
yep
>>172593854
Because 60int is best build for dark sorcery? 45/45 is waste of points and you can't even use good spells except shitty dark ones. How this stuff supposed to be best if dark spells deals less damage than with court?
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>>172588534
Good job anon
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>>172593332
>Spells
Just put in the Int points and use the MLGS like any self-respecting individual would.

>But it sucks tho
Nah ur just shit m8, git gud, etc etc. You get the gist of it.
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>>172594073
you get your ornaments and i get to play the game
we all win in this scenario

shame people don't actually pvp anymore, it's just run away until the host gets tired and quits
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>>172592852
I beat the fight solo on my 4th try, then, as a spear, won I don't even know how many fights (got to 30+ convenant items) without losing even a single one.

The fight is horribly stacked against the host.
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>>172594065
Splitleaf. He'll use the helicopter attack a lot.
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>>172593919
>>172594085
This is too adorable.
Can you get him to do his flaily stampede-across-the-room move?
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>>172593073
Can you not use estus when you summon a phantom anymore?
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>>172594045
>>172594065

Thanks guys. Anyone know if it's serviceable weapon?
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>>172594054
Better yet he still does the full mega beam at that size.
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>>172593332
Yeah a build with great farron dart + spear for maximum poke
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What am I doing wrong to not get Spear invasions?
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Friendly reminder that if you used Pestilent Mercury then you cheated yourself out of a good boss and deserve no respect.

Second friendly reminder that being fucked by/fucking dragons is top tier taste.
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>>172594085
That's adorable but I still fucking hate him.
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>>172594038

Is Raw ASS just the ultimate weapon for casters or what? I just compared it to a Sharp Lothric Knight Sword and it would take an extra 20 levels just to match the damage I'm getting out of my ASS now, with both weapons at +8, and then even boosting Dex to 40 gets barely 50 more damage out of it.
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>>172594085

Overload of cute! Can I take it home?
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>>172589959
Still can't believe people finally found a use for that spell.
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>>172594242
It's an ok weapon and the WA is pretty good.
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>>172594242
Splitleaf has great scaling and a better-than-average weapon art. Black Knight Halberd isn't in Dark Souls 3
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>>172594291
For early-mid game yes.
You can easily complete the base game with it.
For TRC bosses you're going to need to buff a lot in order to out dps most bosses.
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>>172594271
Not so friendly reminder but if you:

Summoned, Used Armor, have points in Vitality, Used a high fire resist shield, used sorceries, used pyromancies, hit anywhere that isn't the head or is playing as a female character

You are shit and you deserve no respect.
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>>172594271
what if I already fought him straight up before
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>>172593912
Ironically, the Iron Dragonslayer chest looks good.
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>Aquamarine and Church Shiv build
Holy SHIT this is fun
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>people complaining about exile great sword
>no one complaining about duel UGS
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>>172593332
No because you require a lot of stats to be high. Splitting your stat investment will result in less effectiveness of your abilities, this isn't rocket science.
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>>172591806
Literally DS3 but with more LOL HARDEST GAME EVER HARDER THAN DARK SOULS style, and much worse

It would be still built on the DeS/DS1/DS2 engine. Nothing would be new, it would all be reused assets from those games (especially DS2).
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>>172594547
one has a good move set and is generally a good weapon the other is dual ugs.
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what's the meta on which rings to wear in duels for a basic 40/40 melee lad?
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>>172594442

What are some good weapons to replace it with? Pyro requiring both INT and FAI doesn't leave much for STR or DEX.
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>>172594547
what the fuck are you talking about retard, people have been complaining about dual UGS for multiple threads now
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>>172594265
Being unlucky
Anecdotally, I get summoned often right after offering an ornament
I've heard you get summoned more if you're moving around doing stuff so if you need to farm anything now would be a good time
Mostly just RNG though. I just put down my white sign and the guy didn't even get a spear, just Halflight, so who the fuck knows.
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>>172594547
NIGGA DUAL ZWEI OP
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>>172594631
Are you fucking serious you can't figure this out
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>>172594401
yes it is you pedantic fuck
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>>172594271
I use a hexer build, it was either using pestilent mercury or hitting for 100 with my onyx greatsword
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>>172594547
The Dual UGS are strongly overrated.
They throw people off because they have weird timings that players aren't used to. It's the same reason why people bitched about FUGS being top-tier for the first two months of the game's life. When you fuck up a lot, suddenly it's the weapon's fault for doing lots of damage when you fuck up.

2GS gets fucked against most other ultras because the L1 HA isn't very strong and it's much slower.
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>>172594225
He's completely covered by the VFX during it, since even the splashes from his foot stomps are bigger than him.
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Does the softban ever expire?
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>>172594720
I haven't played since when dark sword was OP
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>>172594873
Yes, but it takes a few months.
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>>172594646
Onyx Blade or a resin'ed Raw Corvian Dagger.

Or use Black Flame or Flame Fan, they will probadly hit harder and pure pyro is simply more fun. Warmth is actually the best healing spell in the game and makes going only Ashen Estus viable
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>>172594916

Can I get it to clear faster if I uninstall / clear all game data?
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>>172594829
That's a shame.
Toddler Midir doing his little tantrum would've been cute.
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FOUR PLAYERS USING THE SAME WEAPON! AND ARMOR!!
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>>172594873
>>172594916
More like a couple weeks, actually.
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Demon Prince - 2 deaths
Halflight - 4 deaths
Midir - 28 and counting.
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>>172594814
So what about EGS? what problems are people having with that?
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i love this ludd/zalen 2.0 meme when the fight itself is closer to O&S
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>>172594996
You definitely need to clear out all your savedata and start over, or go to a backup clear of anything that got you in trouble.
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>Midir
Finally From made another casual filter since Capra Demon.
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>>172595079
It has the highest pure physical AR in the game with no real downsides.
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>>172595056
Demon Prince - 7
Halflight - 3
Midir - 3
Gael - 9
I really don't the Midir hate around here.
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>Slathered with a black murkiness, and fit for dark sorceries
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfIw5XlP82A
LMAO
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>>172594829
Isn't there a way to do away with the effects? Maybe replace their texture with nothing?
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>>172587712
What's the lore with giants summoning LITERAL sentinels?
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>>172594829
Would it work if you moved him somewhere there are no ground particles? Or would he just start throwing up clouds of dust?
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>>172595056
Demon Princes - 1 Death
Church - 0 Deaths
Midir - 7 Deaths
Gael - 1 Death
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>>172595195
>he didn't read the item description
laughing_painting_guardians.jpeg
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>all these people complaining about how difficult this DLC is
>me and my friends just killed Gael while only being lvl 120

Git gud faggotnoobs
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>>172595195
Same deal as the harald legion.
They traveled to the ringed city and eventually submitted to/ were corrupted by the judicators.
It's right in the item description dude.
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Can I make a Cersei cosplay in DaS3?
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>>172594646
Good pyro weapons are: Witch's Locks, Onyx Blade, and Demons Scar. Axes are good too Millwood>Brigand>Hand Axe only requiring minimal investment. Parry tools can be Simple/Blessed: Parrying Dagger, Buckler, Target Sheild, Caestus. 15/17/17/17 is what I run on my SL40 Pyro, a higher level Pyro will simply pump INT/FTH/ATT/VIG/END.
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>>172595130
>>172595079
I don't see why this is a problem. You can still kill people easily that use it.
It's good but it's not over powered like some seem to believe.
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>>172594996
>>172595086
You also don't really need to do that either. I've been banned and unbanned three or four times now, and as you might have noticed, I haven't really cleaned up anything or tried to get unbanned.

Their anti-cheat is extremely forgiving this time around.
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>>172594125
You do realize regardless of spell buff some staves have better dark scaling right?
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>>172595138
>>172595056
Demon Prince- 0
Halflight - 2
Gael - 1
Midir - 4 currently
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>>172595354
Black Dress / DLC Bitches Tiara
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>>172595290
Noone is complaining about the difficulty, we're complaining about how much health everything has.
Pinwheel isn't hard, but why don't you try fighting him with a broken broken sword hilt at NG+7. That's pretty much the Midir fight
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>>172595354
rock yuria's outfit maybe with Shira's crown thing
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>spear bossfight
>every host attacks Judiciar Argo

What's the point?
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>>172595321
>>172595261
I read them, but i was a bit DUDE WEED up

Aren't Sentinels just husks?
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can someone get me a pic of midir shooting his giant death laser up in the air will love long time..
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>>172595290
If you had just left it at the greentext, you might have gotten some folks with this.
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>>172595290
Gael isn't even hard though
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>>172595084
that's just the DaS2babby throwing a tantrum and believing people will come back to his dead game once they are done with the DLC
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How does a non-magic user beat Midir?
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>all those pics of embered fucks without fire being their central character theme
These should be discarded, truly these people are a waste of space in life and in the collage
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What's the worst area in the entire Souls series?
>picture related, the cursed tower from the old iron king DLC
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Anyone using this thing at high levels?
How's the weapon art?
Used it for a couple of invasions at low level and it does good damage and hits fast, even if it has low range and poor tracking.
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>>172594631
Rof +3
Cloranthy +3
Life ring +any
Ring of steel protection +3
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>>172595372
Good to know, it's nice that it isn't as cryptic and secretive about bans like DS2 was. I don't even know why I care about not getting banned in the first place, I put almost no time into any of the online features of DS3.
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>>172587889
He might as well mount me cause I'm getting fucked trying to fight him

Even with my mercury breath, this shoop-da-woop motherfucker is kicking my ass, every phantom is taken, and Shira loves to frolic in the water and get fucked bareback by this abyssal fucknut

Wat do, aside from getting even gudder
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>Level 15
>Invade as Watchdog
>Enemy has frayed blade
>Enemy phantom has frayed blade
>Other watchdog joins
>He has frayed blade too

what the fuck
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>>172595161
>Steady Chant active makes it better than the Court SS
LMAO
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>>172595468
Also in the item description.
The animated suits of armor we fight in ds2 are modeled after the original knights that went to the city.
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>>172595084
I wouldn't say it's anything like O&S. It's a decent bossfight with two health gouged mobs you have to kill for entry.
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>>172595190
>>172595220
Getting rid of visual effects is easy. There are debug flags for hiding different visual groups, like the map, the player and every NPC, objects, and, yes, VFX.

I was planning on going to bed like an hour ago though, so I might leave that off for tomorrow.
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>>172595467
Because every other giant you meet has to be killed or else they infinitely summon dangerous enemies.
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>there is people in this thread who unironically use lock on in Midir fight
>they blame game, developers, camera, everything

Where they came from? I can't believe /dsg/ was so bad
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How hard is the ringed city compared to the rest of Dark Souls 3 and compared to Dark Souls 1?
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>>172595372
aren't those additional times are simply the game re-noticing the shit you didn't clean up?

The unban is automatic, but then they'll just check again later.
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>>172595551
Stand in front of him
Dodge his easy as shit to dodge swings
Sprint for most fire attacks. Only one you roll is when he combo's into a jump back, and then sweeps fire past you as he comes back in range.
Hit him in the head once
Repeat until dead
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>>172595572
Tossup between blighttown earthen peak and black gulch.
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>>172595628
That's retarded

This lore is retarded
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>host has seed of the giant popped + 2 sunbros + 1 sentbro waiting at bonfire for you
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>>172595572
The great hollow and the dragon ass part of lost izalith are my top worst areas. I want to say horsefuck valley too but that area at the very least has a visual gimmick that I'm a sucker for.
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>>172595679
It's probably the hardest DLC. Some bosses are arguably more difficult than any in it but every boss is pretty challenging.
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baseless speculation time

the left statue is kaathe, who sided with humanity represented by his hollow-looking chest and angel wings. it's a subversion of what you'd expect since lothric is a kingdom based around the idea of linking the fire, but these statues are found only in the grand archives, where the princes who opposed the linking of the fire reside

the right statue is frampt, who sided with the gods. his statue being here is similarly a subversion of expectations because you would expect the city of pygmies to be against the gods, but then you start to realize the ringed city is actually entirely run by servants of gwyn

i would guess the right is what the full body of a normal primordial serpent looks like, while the left is either artistic license on the part of whoever the sculptor was, or else kaathe actually harnessed humanity (via darkwraiths?) to achieve an angel-like form similar to the pilgrim angels. seeing an actual full-sized model of that would look absolutely ridiculous, but would it really look that much more goofy then dogframpt? the primordial serpents were made to look weird and goofy from the beginning hence the fucking enormous teeth and weird skin-mustache
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>>172595608
are you surprised people are twinking with a shitter crutch?
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>>172595608
Is frayed blade the metashit weapon? I figured it would be the Ringed Knight sword
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>spear of the church Jon Snow
>looks nothing like him

What's with these fuckers? Do they just like the name or..? I mean a jon snow cosplay is not excatly hard to make.
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>>172590271
Lore is complex, leaves threads hanging
Has a cute storyline with Lapp
Bosses are all fantastic, there's a great Demon fight with multiple final phases ala O&S, Old Monk 2 with an accompanying covenant, Guts who turns into Dante from the Devil May Cry series, and then the best Dragon fight in the series with the thiccest healthbar you've ever seen

Ringed City itself looks nice, interesting level design that promotes exploration with loads of hidden goodies and NPC invasions.

Some enemies are bullshit like lmao3harald and the Judicators.
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>>172595467
It's faster to kill him than wait
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>>172595572
Iron Passage.
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>>172595624
>steady chant
>in pvp
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>>172595768
both are frampt
kaathe is dead and resided in londor
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>>172594085
>>172593919
Cheating to make big scary dragons tiny always results in the most adorable shit

Has anyone ever done that to Kalameet?
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>>172595679

Elfriede/Ariandel is the pinnacle of Souls 3 difficulty.

Gael is really just flying Artorias. He's not that bad but he can take you by surprise initially.
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Fear not the dark my friend.
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>>172595807
>fighting the harald staircase for real
>not taking the instant kill plunges

???
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>>172595796
My character's name is DS3 is trash, and I wear the fallen knight set, dark sword and black knight shield
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>>172595894
where is my feast
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>>172595679
It wouldn't be as hard if things didn't scale fucking exponentially in NG+ cycles. Holy shit.
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>>172595608
How the fuck are they able to weild that at SL15?
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>>172595252
Demon Princes - 6
Church - 1
Gael - 4
Midir - 6
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Gwyn didn't know the fire would fade when he cursed humanity, so he probably thought that he was super successful and stopped the race of humans from becoming mutated undying monsters who all move around like fucking anime swordsmen when he got that seal.
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>>172595701
No, those additional times were when I did stuff I was fairly sure would get me banned during online testing. I had long stretches of time, months even, where I wasn't banned despite everything I'd done.
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>>172595084
I wouldn't say it's really O&S but it's absolutely nothing like Lud/Zallen. I guess it does lean toward the former more than the latter. O&S were defined by completely different movesets and an arena that allowed manipulating and seperating them.
Lud/Zallen were just the sameguys smushed together in a small empty arena.
Demon Prince is managing what mood each boss is in at each time. Most of the time it's really a 1-on-1 fight where you occasionally have to dodge out of the way of a STRONGLY telegraphed poison lazer, you don't even need to keep an eye on the long-range demon. I wouldn't compare it to O&S because the arena's geography doesn't play a role, and it's not about managing two different but highly agressive enemies bearing down on your ass.
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>>172595640
Thats fine. Get some sleep Zullie, you do more than enough good work.
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Aight how does this spear shit work? Just wear the covenant and throw a red sign down?
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I'm going cleric as a buff build and I started thinking

since cleric has such high luck but is still more optimized than knight with base vit, would it be worth it to infuse my offhand and mainhand weapons with hollow instead of raw and throw a few points in luck?

or is luck purely supplementary and not worth it without proper physical damage stat investment?
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>>172595796
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Most underrated boss?
Most overrated boss?
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>>172595894
>stealthing through the black swamp trying to avoid the giant
>hear quietly "I will partake" everywhere around you

10/10 atmosphere
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>>172595719
Yes, welcome to Dark Souls 3 invasions.
How new are you, exactly?
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>>172596045
>Most overrated boss?
Namless
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>talking to shira
>harald knight comes up behind me
>blocks me into the doorway
>starts readying his smashy smashy jumpy slamy attack.
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>>172596049
>the little heads poking out of the muck that whisper at you
It's good shit.
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>>172589648

Get on my level
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Does anyone have the item IDs for the new +3 rings?
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>>172595768
>Primordial Serpent
>Has legs

Doesn't quite add up.
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>>172595823
Wouldn't you just run both and swap after the initial buff wears off? It seems like the crystal staff of hexing if you ask me.
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Whats a good offhand for a Hollow build?
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>>172596045

>underrated
Spears of the Church

>overrated
gael
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>>172596045
Nameless is overrated. It's a big dude in armor who isn't even hard to dodge. Also has a bullshit time-waster first phase.

Deacons is underrated. It's an interesting fight when you do no damage, and the mob is actually hard to get through and you need to manage the curse mechanic.
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>>172596045
Covetous Demon
Friede
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>>172596045
>underrated
Twin Princes, Old Demon King
>overrated
Soul of Cinder
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>>172596173
Obligatory Manikin Claws
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Everyone who rated Midir a 10/10 fight
You are everything wrong with this playerbase. Fuck off.
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>>172596192
Imagine fighting deacons if poise was a thing, the fat ones would make it so hard to get to the pope
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>>172595572
I have to assume you've all forcefully repressed the memories of the Frigid Outskirts, but this really isn't even a competition.
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>>172596173
Shield
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Need help with Darkeater Midir, at the gate with the password "pasta"
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>>172595796
They like the idea of making a cosplay character, but can't beat the game/ win in PvP with them so they just do whatever and try not to cringe every time they load the file.
I made Karsa Orlong in DaS2 and damn it, I went around near naked with only a UGS for the entire fucking game.
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>>172595840
No, Dark Souls 1's models aren't as receptive to being resized as DaS3's. If anything I think it's probably due to there being several enemies in DaS3 where they have the same model only sized up or down, like the larger hollows, the giants, and dogs.
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>tfw blue sentinel summoned exactly AFTER i kill the invader

Miyazaki fucking HATES blue sentinels wtf
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>>172596305
I liked the Outskirts. The visual mechanic was really neat, and making runs from shelter to shelter was fun. I will say it's bullshit having to do it every time you wanted to fight the boss, but the area itself was awesome.
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How do you fight Lorian? Do you parry him?
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>>172596173
The greatest offhand
it also gets a bleed bonus if that's your thing
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Best talisman for faith build?
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>>172596045
Sanctuary guardian, Chariot, DSA

Manus, Fume, Gundyr
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Thoughts on the Herald Curved Greatsword?
On a 35/35/30/30 and infused with Chaos, i get just over 600 AR with it and feels very practical.
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>>172595354
Yuria's chest piece paired with that new church chicks head piece, whatever you'd like for the arms and legs.
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>>172596470
You roll
And you hit him
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I think I could beat Midir if I had a phantom who doesn't die before Midir goes to his second phase.
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>>172596357
Booting up my N64
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>>172596417
>red kills me
>respawn
>can't use bonfire
>one minute later blue summoned

Really
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>>172595608
>go offline
>open CE
>give yourself the coolest edgelord katana ever
>go online again
I'm not surprised people are abusing it at low levels.
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>both DLC's come and go
>no "Well, what is it?" (or new gestures of any kind)
>no ascetics
>faith and int will always be kind of shit
>no firebomb-launching crossbow or additional crazy shit from Edmond
It's starting to set in.
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Is anyone else using the Lothric war Banner and can help me test some shit?

I've noticed that when you use the skill and stick with the spear, it lasts it's full minute duration. But if you say, have the banner in the off hand, buff with it, then 2h the weapon in your right hand, the buff seems to only last the first or second swing of the right weapon.

I've tried this with both paired weapons and singles and the result is the same.
Is there some hidden condition that I wasn't aware of, like the warcraft styled buffs only function correctly for the weapons that cast them?
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>>172596493

sunlight talisman has the highest poise tank WA if I remember correctly, so that's probably better for PvP
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>>172596357
powering up my Dreamcast
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>>172596493
Canvas for Spears/Stakes/Storm
Yorshka's for Lightning Arrow/Buffs/Heals
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>>172596481
Name?
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>>172596559
I would offer, but I have no idea what dodging Midir looks like when he's not aggro'd on you.

Just stand in front of the dude and smack him in the head after each of his attacks. It is honestly not difficult.
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>>172595590
15 faith 30 int 18 att. Attune: Tears of Denial and Pestilent Mercury. Everything else goes to VIG and END. Equip: Grass Crest Sheild on the left and Witchtree branch / chime on tje right. Bring Chlothanry +3 and Ring of Favor+3. Other Rings can be any combination of dark/fire/speckled stoneplate, life, or sages rings. Finally bring 10/5 hp/mana esutus, green blossom, and black bug pellet. That's the easymode build for Midir; wear the best combination of phys/dark/fire armor you can.
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>>172596590
It only lasts as long as the War Banner is an active weapon, i.e. you have to one hand the other weapon to get the buff.
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>At home
>Drawing pictures
>Of mountain tops
>With him on top
>Lemon yellow sun
>Arms raised in a V

Pearl Jam
Jeremy

Were they referencing dark souls?
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>>172596657
It's pretty difficult. Everytime I go to slap his head (which involves running towards him because he jumps away) he raises his head for an attack and I whiff.
This happens several times and it really drags the fight on.
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>>172596040
Nigga go sharp or heavy or raw and buff your weapon with lightning blade.

Body buffs are shit because they are heavily penalized in pvp to literally 1%

Heals and regeneration are better than buffs.

Bleed miracle and sunlight spear are decent for pve, arrow and stake might be decent for pvp.
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>>172596590
it's buff damage for everything but you can't 2H other weapon
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>>172596045
>Underrated
Dragonslayer Armour
>Overrated
Sir Alonne
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>>172596045
>>172596045
>Most overrated boss?
Flamelurker, O&S (pre aota), Artorias (post aota), Smelter (pre softs), Fume (post softs), Defiled Hotdog (pre toh), Orphan (post toh) Nameless King (pre aoa), Friede (post aoa) Midir (post trc)
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>>172596045
>Underrated
Ruin Sentinels, Dragonslayer Armor
>Overrated
O&S, Artorias, Pontiff
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>>172595667
I lock on after he's rampaged and put a lot of distance between us, it's just an easy way to keep the camera on him while I run back over to melee range.
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>>172595824
why would one be dead and not the other?
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>>172596694
>>172596748


Well fuck that's news to me. oh well, still a neat offhand weapon i guess.
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>>172596576

but that will get you b&
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>>172596579
I'll never understand why Bamco never bought the rights to the series and milked it for all it's worth
the demand will always be there
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>>172596045
I think sanctuary guardian is most under rated.

Maybe sihn is most over rated
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>>172595840
>>172596407
Before I go to bed, I do have this disproportionate Kalameet though.
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Does matchmaking round up or down?
I mean, at SL91 doing red eye orb invasions, the low threshold should be 81.9 (90% of 91), so would SL81 or SL82 be the lowest you can invade?
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Can anyone post what the stat scaling is for the Ringed Knight Spear at +10? Wiki doesn't have it yet.
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>>172596760
Nobody liked Hotdog.

Smelter is considered pretty average.

Agree on the rest.
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>>172595056
NG+7 SL120
Demon Prince - 8
Church - 0
Midir - 134
Gael - 28
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>>172596045
>Underrated
Executioner's Chariot
>Overrated
Ceaseless Discharge
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>>172596879
awwww Look at his stumpy feeties :3
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>>172596579
You won't believe me, but faith got big buff. New spell is really good.
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>>172596357
Sign is down waiting
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>>172596654
Paddrick da Perilous
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>>172596743
If he's doing his charge attacks that leave him a mile away, you're not standing close enough. If you're right in front of him he'll keep doing the basic swipes, and most of those move him forward. I can think of one chain that moves him back, but it ends with fire breath so you have plenty time to close the gap after dodging the fire.
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Rate the DLC's bosses out of 10.
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so i took out midir at the bridge, got up to gael and then went back to the lady and she wont talk to me now, what gives?
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>>172597035
>If he's doing his charge attacks that leave him a mile away, you're not standing close enough.
Kinda hard to stand close to him when he keeps hopping away, flying, and doing his flailing combo that sends him across the entire map.
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>>172596879

Thick.
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>>172597049
7
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>>172596932
hotdog was my favourite bosss nerd. I was fucking estatic when I made a root FRC and found him as a wandering enemy in a giant oil lake with a keeper of the old lords as backup
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>>172597049
Demons - 5/10
Spear - 6/10
Gael - 7/10
Midir - 7/10
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>>172596760
This is based on difficulty rather than popularity right? I haven't heard of anyone that thought defiled dog was a great fight.
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>>172597062
She will invade you in wasteland. Check right side area. She's crazy fanatic
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>>172596932
I love Hotdog, it's one of my favorite bosses in the Souls series. Midir may be my favorite.

I don't like Smelter that much. He can be fun, but I don't like his design.
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>>172597049
Lud and Zallen 2.0: 5/10
Old Monk 2.0: 0/10
Orphan of Gaeltorias: 4/10
Midir: 10/10
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How do i parry Midir?
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>>172597062
You didn't kill Midir.
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>>172590790
Split damage on a weapon with low base damage and mediocore scaling.

Despite that it's still alright because it attacks fairly quickly with the WA.
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Concord farming is killing me
Is there anyway I can get the stupid covenant to actually work so I don't have to farm for 12 hours on ps4
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>>172596967
The buffs to WotWC actually finally add up to something worth using in some situations, too.
Its damage stacks up really fast if you can actually get the disk to sit in a boss, and it casts quickly for not much fp. From the right distance it does more damage than any of the spears
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>>172597049
Demons- 3/10
Spear- 5/10
Gael- 2/10
Midir- 2/10
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>>172597049
Demons get an 8
Everything else gets a 10
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>>172597049
Demon Prince 9/10
Spear 10/10 - 4/10 if offline
Gael 9.5/10
Midir 10/10
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>>172597168
>>172596932
I rated on difficulty not popularity.
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>>172597118
He always opens with his tantrum stomp, just run to the side of that then chase him down. You should be able to get close enough to get him clawing for a while.

In fact, I cant think of any issues I had with staying near him. Sure I had to chase him around like a motherfucker, but I could always get close enough that I was never trapped at a distance with him bulldogging me.

I don't know what to tell you on that front. Get better at running to his predicted end spot, I guess.
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>>172596967
But the best miracles and faith gear are locked behind Dancer and/ or Friede/ SoC, and Int only really has MLGS going for it.
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>>172596590
>>172596694
>>172596748

How much bonus damage does it add for yourself and allies? Is the effect reduced in pvp?

How's it's damage compare to other spears like ringed spear and lothric spear?
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>>172597321
>>172597285
look guys I like the dlc too but that's just sycophantic
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>>172597221
>He doesn't send people message with "Need concords" so they know to not fight back

Your fault you're farming concords right now
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>>172597205
You have to use the Dragon Great Shield's shout weapon art at the perfect moment
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>>172597168
he has such a well crafted movesset though, when you learn it you can do no hit runs on him. Unlike other bosses that are shit to fight every time like amy or rom.
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>>172592436
>P2W
>PvE
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How do I get used to the parry frames on curved swords in ds3?
It's so easy for me to parry with small shields, but the frames on swords just aren't clicking for me.
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>>172597360
I don't know the percentage itself, but it seems decent enough. Effect isn't reduced AFAIK.
It's a pike, not a spear, and the damage could be better.
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>>172597376
I can't send messages to people if I don't get summoned
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>>172595117
Except Midir doesn't filter anything, he's optional.
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>>172597349
You can do dancer really early with help. I got the miracles and greater lightning spear at like sl 20
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Anybody have a close up on Midir's eyes?
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>>172597537
So is it longer than the meta spears?>>172597674
He looks blind from what i could see when fighting him
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>>172597189
>hurr it has two enemies it has to be a close of o&s because they did it first!!!
>hurrr it summons a player, its obviously a copy of old monk haha!!
>haha its artorias because he has a sword and is animalistic hahaha!!!

At what point are we going to judge bosses as their own instead of labeling it as a 2.0 or a copy because it's similar to past bosses?
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>>172596834
Why? As I understood it, as long as your post-CE file could be theoretically obtained, there's nothing for the server to pick up and ban you for.
I don't see any way they could prove/detect that you didn't summon a friend who dropped the sword for you.
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>>172597349
Who cares about int? Int getting worse every patch. And you can play game using str build and then respec into FTH
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>>172592436
>PvE
Is this why I keep getting "a connection error has occured" when I try to invade lately? Players that don't bother to go offline but rather alt+F4 when they get invaded and don't have yellow phantom army to back them up?
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>>172597349
>locked behind dancer
Lmao
Git gud
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>>172597754
He isn't. You just didn't look close enough.

Please stop talking about things you clearly aren't sure about. Cunt.
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>>172597674

Here, just look at this pretty eye.
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Does Obscuring Ring work when you're the Spear?
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>>172588690
>Watered Down Orphan of Kos
Where does this come from? They've got almost nothing in common.
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>>172597826
When the DLC installed it threw me in online mode despite having offline mode selected prior to the update. I usually don't notice until it's too late.
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>>172597339
The tantrum is what always got me because I could never keep up with him, and then he started spamming charges or lazers.
Finally JUST beat him now. Wearing artorius's armour and his sword was good luck I guess.
Took me 4 solid hours.
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>>172597826
i pretty much always turn online off when i go into carthus catacombs and anal rodeo

everything else is whatever
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>>172593332
yes, you're pretty much stuck doing a luck/int build if you want to do sorceries, though.

performs best between SL80 - 120 though

going higher than SL120 allows you more variety in spells, but with the soft cap of 45 luck on man-grub's taking it to SL150 or whatever you dmg is respectable with spells still, especially after using steady chant, but people have more vigor, and anri's is stuck hovering around 390 to 420 AR depending on if you're two handing and have something hollow infused in your left hand.

I really enjoy adding old moonlight and aquamarine dagger for mix-ups with my build though.
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>>172596919
Any info on this?
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>>172597049
Demon Prince - 6/10, was mostly a "try it until you get it right" fight

Spear - 7/10 for the fight itself, I've always wanted another PvP boss since I missed out on DeS's fun and Mirror Knight didn't quite cut it. 10/10 for the covenant

Gael - 6/10. Interesting fight, but poorly executed. Absolute damage sponge as a substitute for difficulty. Take out his bullshit cloak though and he goes up to a 7/10

Midir - 3/10. A joke of a boss. Absolutely ridiculous hp pool, biggest offender of the DLC. Also happens to be the worst boss in terms of design as well, because nobody asked for "Flailing Large Monster Boss #3254". On top of that, becomes absurdly simple once his entire moveset is memorized. Shouldn't have even been included in the DLC, much less as a gate for a fun covenant.

Overall - 5/10. Bosses in this DLC were horrible. Its only saving grace was the covenant and the fun weapons. How they went from Friede to this is astonishing.
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>>172597940
They fight similarly. They both move around with huge leaps, and like jumping attacks.

They also both can call down lightning, but that's more just a fun coincidence.
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>>172597049
Demons: 8
Halflight: 3
Gael: 9
Midir: 8
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>introduce literal who first expansion
>makes them final boss last expansion in some forced sad story dealio

Gael isn't Artorias, nor is he Ludwig.
He's a nobody introduced just for this shitty dlc plot
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QUESTION
If Exile GS is a meta meme now, does that mean that Herald CGS is as well?

It also scales S in strength, but not as much as EGS, and has somewhat the same moveset.
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>>172597802
Okay the other ones were bullshit but gael is LITERALLY artorias 2.0. And I say that in a good way.

He's an animalistic warrior with a worn sword. But it goes further. Multiple abilities Gael uses are almost exactly the same as arty. Flip chain smash, Giant jump then stab into you, 3 hit side swing combo, even Arty's Power Up explosion is mimicked by Gael in phase 3.

It was clearly meant to mirrior arty and they did a damn fine job of it.
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>>172597802
>its obviously a copy of old monk haha!!
I mean, it even gives you a free yellow homing soul arrow thing
Its pretty clearly "Hey look its the old monk fight"
Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that.
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>>172598032
>nobody asked for "Flailing Large Monster Boss #3254
>"where is my dragon boss??? fuck ds3!"
Yeah, sure.
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>>172593514
>Block Midir's fire
Well there is your problem.
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>>172597973
>Ended up beating him with my kinky SS officer outfit of Old Sorc Hat / Desert Pyro Bra / Desert Pyro Gloves / Black Leather boots
>Just a near naked chick with an Astora's Greatsword chasing around a dragon

It was fun
>>
Just killed Gael and gave the painter her pigment.

So... that's that, then. The end of Dark Souls, I guess. I was expecting some cutscene, or a bit more impact at the fact that we found the "Dark Soul", but at least it ended on a pretty fun fight.
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>>172598102
The EGS is a meme because it has too much damage on a usable moveset, not because it has a good moveset.
Harald has like 100 less AR than the EGS. It's good but not unfair good.
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>>172597940
First phase moveset is pretty similar in places, and his cape is a direct reference to Orphan's "wings".
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>>172598094
Ludwig isnt the old hunters big bad.
It's orphan, someone who was also a literally who until the dlc
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>>172598153
The opinions of aesthetic morons who wanted DS3 to be a copy of DS1 should be disregarded
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>>172598186
Fucker deserves to be humiliated like that.
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Which one of you redditors is this?
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>I've been wanting another Old Monk since DaS
>Everyone hates it
feels bad man
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>>172597168
I never did Chalice Dungeons for the longest time, but had heard about how awful Hotdog was for all of that time.
I finally did chalices and reached him like a month ago and didn't have any problem him, I really don't get the hate. He was moderately difficult, fair, and fun.
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>>172598094
>Ludwig.
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>>172598189
We didn't even find the goddamn soul.
We found blood contaminated by it. That's like going in a search for the Holy Grail and you end up finding just a sack with coins they made by melting the damn thing down
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>>172598189
We actually didn't get the Dark Soul. Gael fucking ate the Dark Soul, and we brought his blood to the painter.

Gael needed the Blood of the Dark Soul found the Pygmy Lords were all dried up old hags without a drop in them. So he went cannibal, and hoped that after we killed him we'd complete his quest.
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>>172598285
Artorias wasn't the big bad either.

Artorias and Ludwig are "hero/saviour gone corrupt" right. Gael is just a nobody.

Arty and Ludy had a bunch of lore piled on about them even before a dlc was confirmed. Gael just popped up out of nowhere
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>>172598369
You literally can't make this playerbase happy, everything will be hated on.
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>>172598369
I like it a lot
When they have 3 phantoms you really feel like a legit Boss with all that poise and defense
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>>172593332
str pyro it's my current main.

here is the issue it is a jack of all trades master of none and therefore it suffers massively in pvp. the only card up your sleeve is you can change it up on the fly if you can do fast weapon swaps. If you can't switch weapons quickly (as in open your inventory and equip a different weapon, close inventory, keep fighting, all mid fight then you will have lost it's only trump card.

melee pry has a fuck ton of different weapons that scale with it 90% of those weps are str. The new DLC has dumped tons of new "str melee pyro viable" weapon in our lap but none of them are all that good in actuality. Then again the build itself for pvp is not all that good.unless like I said before you can weapon switch on the fly.

you can really psych people out if one second you go from using rk spear, into witches locks, into Dual flaming ugs, into chucking forbbiden funs and black flames, into astora's chaos imbue, into drake blood, etc.

You have a ton of weapons at your disposal that can be "good" but the issue is that none of them will hit nearly as hard as anyone elses stuff at the same SL (by the way in order to pull this off you are gonna nee to be NG+2 for sages and and at least sl 150 and bare minimum before the build even starts to come together.

as for pvm you will shit on everything that's not in the burning lake. Pryo is the defacto "cheese all things pvm" setup. Adding melee to it is only for shits and giggles.

spells: great chaos fire balls, forbbiden fun, black flame, fire fan, black fire ball. the black flame and fire ball are for when people show up with high fire res gear.

cont.
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>>172597908
At first glance I thought his eyelid was obscuring most of his eye, so I made this
But now I see its just kinda muddy for some reason
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>>172594814
FUGS was just straight retarded early on though. It's AR was just sinful.
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OKAY Y'ALL I'M GONNA BE HONEST

MIDIR IS DUMB

I BEAT HIM BUT HIS ABSORPTION IS TOO HIGH, SO A LOT OF WEAPONS REALLY AREN'T LEGITIMATE OPTIONS (SPLIT OR LOW DAMAGE WEAPONS).

ALSO THE HITBOXES ON HIS FIRE ARE AMBIGUOUS, AND IT'S TRIAL AND ERROR TO FIND OUT WHEN YOU CAN RUN THROUGH THE FIRE TRAILING HIS STREAMS OF DRAGON BREATH. I UNDERSTAND WHY IT KNOCKS YOU OVER, SO YOU DON'T JUST CONTINUALLY SOAK UP DAMAGE, BUT IT'S REALLY ANNOYING.

IF YOU NERF HIS ABSORPTION HE'LL BE BETTER THAN KALAMEET. HE'S NOT A GREAT BOSS, BUT HE'S GOOD, HIS MOVESET IS JUST VARIED ENOUGH TO PUT HIM ABOVE MOST OF THE PACK. THE PEOPLE CALLING HIM AMAZING ARE MASOCHISTS OR SCALIES
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>>172598369
Everyone except one guy said they liked it, though?
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>>172597221
CE the covenant items in.
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Why is everything burning?
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STOP SUMMONING ME AT SPEARS FIGHT TO FOLLOW YOU TO MIZIR YOU STACKED SACK OF SHITS

MORE SUMMONS ISNT GOING TO HELP YOUR PRETTY ASS WITH THAT FIGHT ANYHOW REEEEEEEEE
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>>172598159

DSP did that and called the fight easy.
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>>172590323
>>172592571

the egg is a reference to angel's egg

basically when the egg breaks and filianore is woken up, her reality shatters.

filianore was sleeping to maintain the stability of the memory, which is where the game takes place. the actual "present" is the ashen wasteland that you are forcibly ejected into. the memory is the past, specifically filianore's memory of the age of fire. this is why it's on the box art and why the pilgrims are traveling through it in the trailer. you can actually see pieces of the gael boss room if you look carefully; the ash desert is cut content

In dark souls 2 you can enter into the memories of dead beings, like giants and dragons, to physically exist during whatever period of time they are "dreaming" of. This is specifically why the gods put filianore to "rest", to create a memory from which people at the end of time could exist in, at least until you broke it. Since people who travel through memories genuinely exist in their destination, everything you do such as killing bosses, linking flames, or meeting gael, actually happens; however you don't technically "exist", and are more of a phantom than a physical being.

I'd wager that members of filianore's dream are more prisoners than participants, considering the pygmy lords are actively outside of the dream, at the dead ashen end of time where nobody can find them or take their souls until gael takes the long way, waits through the ENTIRE lifespan of the age of fire, and hunts them down
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>>172598369
It would have been nice but they did it wrong.
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>>172598369
Old monk was execute better imo.
They should've given the spear interesting buffs and maybe some more usable items, rather than summon in random phantoms.
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>>172598446
>Gael is just a nobody.

>sends you to the painted world
>mentioned a lot by loli
>helps against friede
>tells you where to jump in the dreg heap
>helps against demons
Sorry you didn't play the game as From intended.
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>>172598505
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>>172598369
I love it, but I just wish backstacks were disabled when you're going more than 1x1.
Maybe I'm just bad.
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>>172593348
>>172590192
I thought it was more of a niche dex/quality weapon option being turned into a complete STR weapon with a dex requirement.
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>>172598523
It's about to blow! Get out, anon!
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>>172598505
I agree with all of this, honestly. Dodging his swipes is simple, but making the sprints to keep up and avoid fire was fun.

Guy is just a fucking olympic bodybuilding dragon who has so much fucking health that it's unfun to fight.
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>>172592571

>pygmy lord

that's the furtive pygmy, he rejected the lordship. even when you say you follow the gods he straight-up calls your bullshit and calls you a liar.
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>>172598348
Implying you're on high ground. Your opinion is trash as like your tastes and design preferences.
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>>172598032
>rating Spear highest
I can tell what you mean by Demon Prince, although I thought Gael's health pool was reasonable. I'm not sure why his cape gave people trouble.
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>>172598032
Friede is a shit boss
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>>172598523
Your gift of flame has taken root.

Remember, that was what you did in Ashes. Brought flame to the painted world so it could burn the fuck down and be replaced.
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>>172598523
You never put out Ariandel's fire.
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>>172596496
Sanctuary Guardian is garbo from so many perspectives.
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>>172597908
>>172598486

I just want to lay my hand on his snout and tell him it's going to be alright.
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>>172596513
>dual scaling and only 600
66 strength and it heavy is it 630 raw, stop using chaos its shit, heavy a best.
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>>172595372
>that back window in the witch dress

They fucking know what they're doing. Shame my waifu is all armoured.
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>>172598835
Not from the perspective of someone with a Manticore fetish
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>>172598658
I actually found my final few runs pretty fun, once i figured out what i was doing wrong. Before that, i was miserable.

Dodging the swipes backwards, so you're in front of his face helps a lot, and i liked playing unlocked against him. Also i didn't even attempt to use a small weapon after the first few runs, not enough range to reliably hit his head.
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>>172598731
Friede would have been amazing if she were split into two different bosses.
Like, you enter the church the first time and kill her to get to generate a bonfire, then at the end of the DLC Scottish crow goes crazy and revives her and we get phases two and three.
As it is, it's just phase bloat.
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>AoA comes out
>everyone with their SL120 builds and three summons complains about how its too easy
>decide to make the bosses a bit beefier
>"HURR DURR THE FIGHT TAKES LIKE 15 MINUTES I DONT HAVE THAT ATTENTION SPAWN ITS NOT FAAAIIIRRR"
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>>172598835
It's a good boss. Only lorefags dislike it having good gameplay.
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Can you parry the dual UGS L1?
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>>172598094
>Manus
>Sinh
>Ivory King
>Fume Knight
>Friede
Gael is literally the only DLC final boss who is mentioned before the DLC he stars in. Friede is alluded to, but we didn't know her name or her situation, so she still kind of came out of nowhere.
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Hold the fuck up

Did you guys know that Exile GS has higher AR when heavy infused than both FUGS AND Ledo's Hammer at 60 STR? As a matter of fact, the AR is still higher if you buff it with resin (although Ledo gets 712 and I don't think its split damage whilst ECGS gets 768). Surely this is a mistake right?
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>>172598959
All they had to do was make freide not get stunlocked in co-op and she wouldnt be such a joke
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>>172599012
Manus is described in the lore on various items.
Sinh, Ivory, and Fume and Elfriede are all literal who, but they arent the CONCLUSION TO DARK SOULS
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>>172598523
The Painting was rotting because Friede and Ariandel decided to suppress the fire (which is apparently a natural state that cleanses the paintings) for some reason. The Corvian you talk to in the settlement begs you to burn away the rot, so presumably it's a good thing and Friede/ Ariandel are acting unilaterally and against the wishes of the inhabitants.
Ariandel shedding his own blood keeps the fire extinguished, but then you show up and the fire starts to stir harder. Ariandel loses his shit when he sees you knock Friede around the place and just lets the fire happen, but apparently in a controlled way. After Blackflame Friede dies, the fire is loose and the Painting starts to burn.
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>>172598523
Take a fucking guess. You made the bowl guy spill his fire all over the place. What do you think fire does when nobody puts it out?
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>>172599016
I doubt it beats ledo
It doesnt even beat yhorms

But beaing any ultra means it desperves a nerf
Harad is fine
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Spear of the Church was badly done.

What should've been
>no phantoms can be summoned
>no painting guardians get summoned
>no estus for both players
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So, the world the painter girl is making when you give her the Dark Soul is the Bloodborne world... huh, makes you think.
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>>172598902
i agree
But I also feel her moveset in her 3rd phase are just cheap and lazy.
"How can we make this fight more challenging? Let's just add an aoe explosion on every attack."
At least with Maria, it actually felt like they put effort into her moveset so they didn't have to rely on this lazy shit in BloodBorne.
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>>172599121
>Manus is described in the lore on various items

Where? Besides his pendant there's nothing in the base game about him.
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>>172598959
I really don't get the health complaints, maybe people got too spoiled by the paper-thin bosses in the base game. Nearly fucking everything died way too fast unless you were purposefully gimping yourself in some way.
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>>172599192
That's just the Undead Match.
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>>172598416
The soul was split amongst the Pygmy kings. Gael absorbed the the closest thing to the soul when he ate them. Notice how Gael's soul looks almost exactly like Manus'.
Plus, we were never going to GET the Dark Soul, as it was shattered and broken apart to become the humanity sprites which made hollows(pygmies) into humans.
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Anyone see the real ending cutscene?
The one after you tell Paint loli the name of your painting?

It plays the Dark Souls 1 opening cinematic as well as Oscar giving you the key.
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>>172598480
>I don't wanna go above SL 120

in that case fuck str and go with barely enough dex to use witches locks. fuck kids up who suddenly realize they can't parry a whip much less block it or run away from its massive stance and fire damage. roll and flick, roll and flick.

until about SL200 you will be some what of a glass cannon, not enough vit for heavy armor without sacrificing a ton of damage and not enough health to take big hits............ but you great chaos fire balls and forbidden funs should be chunking people for about half their health pool on a single hit.......... if they whip out a shield use black flame and black fire ball.

also pyro is 90% shit against people in pvp unless you get good at non lock on combat. That's right non lock on slow traveling arcing spells. If this doesn't seem like fun it isn't learning it is fucking agony and you will spend a good two weeks just dying to people you could have easily merced had you been melee'ing.

but the results..... the results are worthy every fuck second of it example:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ylIXhcVAP08

he meta has changed a tad bit since this guy was making vids but the major point is his skill in free handing them. He is the pinnacle, all this other vids show similar insanity of free handing shots and just how devastating it can be.
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>>172598959
People who complain about bosses being too easy are faggots who can't appreciate themes, music, or anything except difficulty really.
I like it when bosses "wow" you without having to have high HP or damage numbers.
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>>172599192
so...a duel in undead match
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So now that we have every boss, name your favorite and tell us why you love them.

Nameless King for me. The fight, the atmosphere, Archdragon Peak leading to him, the subtle lore revealing his true identity, and his weapon, all 10/10.
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>>172598214
So I can use it without feeling sorry for myself?
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Lets try that again.

Anyone want to help me with Dark eater?
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>Keep trying to do Spear of the Church with my Aquamarine build
>Get 3 dudes with heavy armor spamming Ultras
>Every time

This is not the build for this huh
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>>172599275
>>172599294

Indeed. Imagine if PvE shitters were forced to fight a real match.
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>>172599192
That's what arena is for.
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>>172598624
he probably meant that there was nothing about him in the base game like artorias in das1 and ludwig in bloodborne
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>>172598891
>I actually found my final few runs pretty fun, once i figured out what i was doing wrong. Before that, i was miserable.
Absolutely. Players instinctually go for the tail or the hind legs, and that screws you over.

Hack at his legs, get knocked over by borderline undodgeable flame spray, get up, chug, get knocked over by tail, chug again, repeat. It's like taking his massive cock to the hilt and taking a sip of estus after every thrust to keep from dying.
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>>172598873
Making a quality build was a mistake
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>>172598446
Gael is a hero gone corrupt.
>World is fug
>Need blood of dark souls to make new one
>travels the world wielding his unique sword stylr and self made crossbow
>The dark souls have no blood anymore
>Consumes dark souls so the ashen one can kill him and obtain the blood
>sacrifices himself for the better of everyone
Literally all you did was finish his quest
You are the real who.
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>>172596513
Your split damage and unbuffable infusion screws you. Go Heavy and use either Blessed Weapon or Resin.
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>>172599307
Why the fuck would I want to help on a boss that already has a fuck ton of health? Do it yourself fag.
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>>172599291
Difficulty is a big part of atmosphere. A boss being thematically intimidating is really undermined by that boss also being a massive pushover?

>>172599343
Why would you want the same thing twice? It wouldn't even feel like a boss fight.
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What's the best spear for pvp?

Been playing a pyromancer with the demon scar, which I figure is a good option because it's a falchion which is supposed to be a super good pvp weapon? But I'm losing a lot of fights due to the short range on it, I need something to walk backwards and poke washing pole users with, the same way they ruin my boipussy by just walking backwards and waiting for me to press r1 and getting a free hit because I whiffed
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>>172599307
Meant to say that's for the PC
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>>172599349
The base game was basicly complete, Miyazaki didn't give a shit about the DLC From would churn out after he moved on to developing KFV.
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>>172598373
I had problems the first time I reached him but got good enough to kill him on BL 42. I don't really find him fun tho becausr patience is not my strength and it is heavily required in that fight.. tho he will never come close to the bullshit that was headless bloodletting beast, I never see people complain about that thing tho.
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>>172598568
How do we even know to go to the ringed city and why?

In dlc 1 geal literally begs us to go to painted world but why do we go to the dreg heap?
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>>172599192
The Spear SHOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT FUCKING COLOR THAN THE RED-BLUE

It's actually so fucking trash, how did no one object to it
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You know that one guy who does concept art of really fucking aids enemies, like Flexile Smelter and Exploding Havels?

Jailer Angels
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>>172599343
That's just boring and redundant. Let the host bring his summons, it's very amusing to just walk up to a phantom and skewer him through the stomach in two attacks and watch the host panic and disconnect once you bear down on him with all that increased defense and HP they were so kind to give you.

The fight maybe just need to be tuned a little bit, is all
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>>172599374
Quality how?
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Why are church spears such fucking pussies?
They'll hide behide their shields even with the guardians and powers and only decide to attack once I've killed both of the bitches.
I've been respawning them all evening and each fight routinely takes 5 minutes because of passive-reactive bullshit.
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>>172599549
>implying non-autists go that far into the chalice dungeons
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>>172598835
Such as? It's a fun, interesting, and challenging boss fight. The way the electric attacks spread through the water around where they land was always so cool to me.
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>>172599678
Church Spears is a nice concept buy From didn't take into account the amount of shitters/dickbags that ruin PvP.
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>>172599578
I agree a yellowish-green would have been fucking great for a new phantom colour
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>>172599171
>pic related
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>>172599423
Do I need to respec my character for that? Why Blessed when I only have 30 faith?
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>>172599483
Nobody is going to help you. The fight is simply not fun enough and takes too long.

Co-oping will only make him harder.
Solo-ing and learning his paterns are your only bets. Aim for his head and roll away, not into his attacks.

Or if you're desperate hire a Pestilent Mercury sorcerer on Reddit.
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Does anybody else think Gael is really cool?

He's ramshackle in every respect, a hobbly sixty year old guy gripping a broken sword with arthritic hands, persevering to the end of the world.
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>Trying out fun and interesting builds
>Everyone else is just using the cheesiest builds with DLC shit that they can figure out

Time to not play this game for a month or two
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>>172599616
>line of sight beats angels
>line of sight beats jailers
It's like the same thing
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>>172599678
That's them helping you dude.
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>>172599678

i play passive on purpose because forcing pve people to get fucked by a meta build is mean.
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>put sign down in front of Adjudicator room
>host takes you to Midir
what a dick head
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>>172599668
Equal STR, DEX, INT, and FAI
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>>172599073
Co-op makes literally every boss in the series a joke anyway, I can't imagine any intelligent reason you might have for judging a boss based on their co-op difficulty.
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>>172599439
>A boss being thematically intimidating is really undermined by that boss also being a massive pushover?
The only boss in any Souls game I can see being a massive pushover are the Dragon God and Pinwheel. The rest were appropriately difficult (although the DLC bosses across all games tend to be a little TOO difficult, or just last too long).

There are few bosses that make me think "wow I wanna do that again!" in this series.
Orphan of Kos, Ludwig, Abyss Watchers, Gundyr, and the Dancer are some that I really enjoyed.
Orphan of Kos to a lesser degree, but I felt it was the perfect conclusion to ToH so I was totally okay with getting my ass kicked so many times.
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>>172599302
Yep

Its only very good, not op, so people wont call you a fag
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>>172599803
Fun and interesting builds to some might mean cheesiest builds to you, faglord.

Raw Astora +10 is all you need for the DLC
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>>172598835

Why, too aggressive? He has good poise mechanics to balance it a bit.
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>>172599847
>host runs to midir
>BC
wowo
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Spear covenant works like watchdog and such, right? Like, you don't have to be in the area to get summoned, you just need to have the symbol on, correct?
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>>172599847
I always join them and block Shira from joining the fight by standing in her way. Fuck these hosts.
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im level 125 and i havent seen any exile curved gs's in the arena

is it an sl 140 thing? i dont wanna go that high
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>>172599769
Strike damage weapons have lower ar because they do more damage

Test them against a boss and you'd see
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>>172599287
>No new souls game
>time is convoluted

Memeazaki if you remake DS1....
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>>172599847
>putting summons down for the easiest "boss" fight in the game

people are trying to get their covenant rewards and the wait to get pulled into that fight can take forever at times.
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>>172599616
>Flexile smelter.
>Exploding havels.
You know, it could be real easy to make a "I wanna be the guy" version of a souls game.
We could call it "I wanna be dead."
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>>172599847
I don't get these people. If I wanted to co-op midir I would have put my sign in front of his bossdoor.
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>>172599901
Ludwig is easily one of my favorites, the atmosphere, music, and the fight itself were all amazing.
Also that cutscene to phase 2? Damn.
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Daily reminder that if you use Shira's Dress and desert Sorceress skirt your character will not have any underwear on no you can't see genitalia
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>>172599480
Gfs
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Is there a trick to killing the big buy that summons the archers in ringed city? Or is it just take a few hits and run down the steps behind him?
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>>172599948
yes
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>>172599945
I wait until they're in the fight with their other phantoms before bcing but yeah
>>172599959
they didn't summon shira they summoned 3 phantoms, also from in fron of the adjudicator room
>>172600036
still
>>172600054
exactly
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>>172600008
ah right, but yeah its still pretty nuts considering you get an extra swing's worth of stamina and I'm p sure its attacks are faster
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>>172599779
Ehhh. Thanks for the reply atleast.

I just don't like not doing a boss. I gotta do it atleast once.
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>>172600057
Precisely what I want. He did suffer from the reoccuring "shit camera issues" and could have been perfect if it was zoomed out a bit further, or if he was just not so large, but more bosses need to be like him.
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>>172600123
I was already using that just so I could have sexy high heels under my dress

This is fantastic news
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>>172599791
>60 years old
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>>172599791
I was just thinking earlier how, as I get older, old-and-busted badass has become my favourite archetype.
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>when the lothric knights before the 2nd bonfire give you more trouble than the actual 1st boss itself
this fucking game sometimes
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>>172600130
Just tickle his feet and jump down the stairs if the archers show up
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>>172599779
>Pestilent Mercury sorcerer on Reddit.
Pestilent Mercury mage here.

Its actually p fun watching midir's hp drop and when you cast the perfect mercury and it sits on him the whole duration.

Fun and ez fight as a mage
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>feelan smug about beating twin demons on third attempt
>oh wait, this is a DLC boss I'm fighting
>die at start of second phase
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>>172599121
>Manus is described in the lore on various items.
Outside of AotA? No he isn't. Even within the DLC he's only alluded to on a couple of items and conversations.
>they arent the CONCLUSION TO DARK SOULS
Neither were Artorias or Ludwig, who weren't even the final bosses of their DLC, so I don't understand why you're comparing them to Gael.
Who from the lore would you have even been satisfied to be the final boss of the entire series?
For me at least, the personalities behind the fights have never mattered, it's all about the mechanics and lore. Gael is mechanically fun, and considering his entire story and fight are about THE Dark Soul, I'd say it was extremely worthy of being the closing fight for the entire series.
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does the spears of the church covenant go off how recent your account was made like watchdogs/dorkmoons do (unless that got fixed)
I was getting a bunch of summons for it yesterday but havent gotten a single one today, although I did go from around lvl 110 to 120
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>>172600254
Areeeee you on PC?
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>>172600257
I did the same thing.
Summon Gael, he's fantastic for the first phase and part of the second where he will die like a bitch leaving you to kill it with 75% of it's HP left but if you get the laser version the fight becomes actually possible.
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>>172599678

>That image
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>>172600051
I really wish someone would make an open source Souls-like game framework on some really easy-to-mod engine like Source
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>>172599287
If you want to make fanfics, at least make them interesting.
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Whats some nice and knightly armor that doesn't weigh an absolute ton. I want to run around as a knight but I don't want to have to put 20+ points into Vitality just for fashion.
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>>172600341
>sample

Ewww
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>>172600370
>Lazer version

Huh? I only saw fireguy. Don't tell me I missed shit because I shitstomped the boss?
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>>172600257
MORE PHASES
MORE BOSSES
MORE HEALTH BARS

YOU THINK YOU'RE DONE YET? THINK AGAIN KID
I HEARD YOU LIKED O&S SO WE'LL GIVE YOU TWO BOSSES
GOOD JOB YOU CLEARE---- JUST KIDDINGGGG HERES ANOTHER PHASE

MORE HEALTH
MORE DAMAGE
MORE PHASES

THIS IS DARK SOULS REMEMBER? HAHA REMEMBER WHEN I SAID THEY WEREN'T DESIGNED TO BE HARD, WELL YOU FUCKS KEPT SAYING IT WAS FOR HARD CORE GAMERS SO HERE YOU GO SHIT FUCKS
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>Trying to summon someone to help with Midir
>Unable to summon phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
>Unable to summon phantom
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>>172600257
>didn't beat the twins at least his first try
I'm actually disgusted with your bad
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>fight Spear of Church
>guy who get summoned is dex fag
>start slamming on him with RKSS weapon art
>he almost dies
>painting guardian walks behind me and bleeds me to death
>mfw i let that happen to me
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>>172600464
Demon Prince's moveset changes depending on which one you killed last. One of them shoots lasers and the other one uses the fire orbs and shit
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>>172600461
This okay?
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>>172600370
>but if you get the laser version the fight becomes actually possible.
I beat it with Gael and Lapp after getting the orb version.
I don't know how, but the two NPC's lasted until the end of the fight. It only took two minutes on NG++ because the DP went into a stunloop from the NPC's and mine heavy weapons.
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>>172600460
Knight set
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So anons which weapon should I roll with on my cathedral knight

The mace or the sword
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>>172600460
black set is goat of all time
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>>172600341
Ya but its time for din dins im hungry
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>>172600460
Herald with Alva's helm
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>>172599307
The challenge for Midir is the massive health pool, you're honestly better off just learning his moves and getting better at the fight solo rather than bloating his health even further with summons and making his attacks harder to read/avoid because he's switching between multiple targets unpredictably.
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>>172600561
>tumblr
>tumblr nose
no
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>>172600605
mace, swords are cucks
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>>172600257

Same, I even swapped my helmet to the mimic head, my shield to the DaS2 shield and put on the serpent ring.
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Will you still get summoned for Spear covenant if you go into NG+ and haven't reached that area yet?
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>>172600506
>summoning for Midir
>turning a fairly simple game of spotting tells into a giant clusterfuck with 3 summons
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>>172599307
Sure. 15 Faith, 30 Int, 18 Att. All other attributes to VIG/END. Tears of Denail + Mercury. Grass sheild, witchtree, and chime. Chlothanry +3 and Favour +3. Any combination of dark/fire/speckeled, steel +3, life rings. 11/4 HP/mana, green blossom, dark bug pellet on wheel. Best armor prioritizing dark/phys/fire.
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is lewdposting about mounting and being mounted by dragons just memeing
cause I dont want that to happen to me aha that would be gay.
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>>172600460
faraam, elite knight
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>>172600268
>Who from the lore would you have even been satisfied to be the final boss of the entire series?
I keep thinking about this. On one hand, Gael was a fun fight and visually great. On the other, he wasn't around in any other game, and only showed up in the dlcs of dks3.

He was very worthy of being the finale of Dks3. But as a final boss that could represent the entire series, I really can't think of anything to top Soul of Cinder.
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What's the meta level?
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>>172600673
Yeah, it works just like the watchdogs and aldritch's faithfuls. You don't gotta have the area unlocked, just the covenant
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>>172599332
It's the build for the offline version.
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>>172600726
cant wait for the furry artists to get in on the action and make me some midir porn
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>>172600460
alva's set
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>>172600507
I'm using the meme lightsaber dagger, is that okay?
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>>172600624
Well would you be up to help after?

>>172600656
Hey I didn't draw it, I just googled it to get a bigger picture.

>>172600713
Well shit I don't need a whole resume XD

I'm at the door, password pasta
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>>172600726
It's allowed, I only think you have shit taste.
Having some femdom with a cute souls waifu would be plain better and hotter, but you're free to like ugly dragon dicks.
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>Keep getting ganked every time I get summoned as a Spear

This isn't fun
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>>172600810
You can't get that weapon until the demon princes are dead.
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>>172599791
>sixty
he's probably thousands of years old, mate. By the time we fight him in RC, probably even older
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>>172600726
No I want to be corrupted by midirs abyss.
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50 or 60 FTH for being a spear-throwing, stake-slamming, god-wrathing miracle man?
Keep in mind i also want a competent weapon.
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>>172600820
Well I like cute souls waifus but femdom is pure trash unless she's a mean dangerous crazy bitch like zoey.
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Trying to figure out how to use ledo's jump, anyone have any good webms or tips?
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>>172600898
>Gael's drive to remain sane is so strong that even Patches hollowed before he did
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>>172588929
T I M E 4 F E A S T
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>>172600971
>He doesn't like loving femdom

Gross
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>>172600506
Stop posting all of these pictures with the angry red eyes, it's getting old.
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>>172600971
Fighting fucks are the best ones. you want a girl that's just as aggressive as you.
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>>172599774
Blessed adds pure physical AR and requires a mere 15 FTH.
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>mfw watching invaders get lasered with a giant seed active
Thanks Angelbros!
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>>172600971
>gay doesn't like cute femdom

Shit taste, scalie
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>>172598873
is 66 the hard cap for strength scaling?
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>>172600460
This is the whitest knightest fashion I have, but it only really works for girls. Only 7 vit and I can run around with a sword, might need a little more for a good shield.
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How's GFS for PvE (and the DLC)? I'm doing a spear build and LKLS has been fucking great so far but that split damage on GFS has me concerned.
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>>172600971
>femdom is pure trash
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>>172600815
I think you misunderstood how I am helping you.
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If I get a 6 we all quit das3 and go back to DeS for at least a month
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>>172601179
Hardcap is 99.
66 is an effective 99 when two-handing.
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Nothing wrong being a dragonsexual.
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>>172601179
Only when you 2hand
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>>172600726
>ywn be trapped in midir's cave and let him forcibly grind his cock against your body until he drowns you in cum

someon end my miseri
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>>172601156
hey wanting to get dicked by dragons isn't gay
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>>172600460
Lorian's set with Vilhelm's Helmet looks knightly and ornate
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>>172600782
I cant wait until he fucks Gaping Dragon
They basically are the same body shape, so they can just lay on top of eachother or something and Gaping can grab Midir with his rib teeth and embrace him while ticking him with his many tongues
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>>172601312
It's shit taste, that's what it is.
>>
Anyone on Ps4 up for a mid lvl fc? Got a lvl 85 on base game
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>>172600726
I'm hoping someone draws him and Kalameet having violent sex
It'll probably never happen, at best we'll get Dancer riding his dick or something, but even that would be neat
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>>172600130
Just run/jog parallel to the archers at a moderate distance, they literally can't hit you. Most of the time he's just swiping at you with his arms or summoning the melee sentinels. Just i-frame or walk way for those.
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>>172600896
wait, there's another lightsaber? I'm talking about the aquamarine dagger which you definitely can get before them
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>>172600968
Nigga every weapon is competent once you buff it or have given whatever you're fighting a fistful of lightning beforehand
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>>172601051
>>172601061
>>172601156
>>172601224
>all these betas
Disappointing.
>>
>>172601030
That's why I love it so much as a little bit of plausible headcanon ,although given the "egg" is cracked when we reach it it's highly likely Gael just smashed his way in straight to that time, it's still fucking badass to imagine him having such a drive to perform his duty that he hangs around hunting the Dark Soul for literally the entire lifespan of reality
>>
>>172601243
Look fuck boi. Hurry up and place your sign down before I bully your boipussi
>>
>>172601374
no there's not I'm retarded sorry, I was thinking of the painting guardian throwable item
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>>172601221
GFS is a Pyro weapon, and it got nerfed recently. Still probably good though.

Anything works in PvE, even Broken Straight Sword if you're patient enough.
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Fuck, i should've just punched Midir with doors.
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>>172601406
(You)
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>SL94
>haven't gotten a single summon in the half hour I've had the spear covenant on
Please tell me it gets better if I go to 110.
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>>172601425
2 tounge but hole.
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>>172601521
Is...
...is that a legit strat? Does that work?
>>
>>172601516
I suppose what I'm asking is will I be gimping myself (even a little) compared to LKLS (both PvE and PvP, but I don't plan on much PvP until I've finished the build).
>>
>>172600268
>>172600742

What if you got sent back in time instead of the future? What if you had to fight full strength Gywn?
>>
>tfw no small shield with weapon art to pair with dagger
Silver eagle shield is the closest thing but they had to go and cover that shit in rust.
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>>172600882
Are you kidding me? Your defense and poise scale to how many players there are. When it's a full 4-man gank squad you turn into a walking fucking tank. Spear ganks are the MOST fun.
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>>172601670
I fucking know

Aquamarine looks amazing, but my off hand looks so empty. Wish I had a DaS2 Magic Shield
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>>172601638
I mean probably not, i still wanna kill a dragon with a door though
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>>172601670
>eastern iron round shield
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>>172601658
you don't get sent to the future, the ashy place you end up in is the present.
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>>172600882
Just hug the painted guardian when he heals
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New
>>172601754
>>172601754
>>172601754
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>>172601670
Eastern Shield and one of the small wooden round shields are both weapon art oriented.
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>>172601694
not as a caster
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>>172600506
>>172600708
Just beat Midir. Summoned 2 people who just casts spells on him while I tanked and we did it in less than 10 minutes. After trying all day solo or 1 person this worked out well.
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What the literal fuck

Why are these DLC bosses so hard?

I gave up trying to beat Midir and now theres this fucking Gael cuck

Please tell me they wont give me as much trouble as Friede? It literally took me 8 hours to beat her

HOW THE FUCK CAN I BEAT ORPHAN OF KOS ON MY SECOND TRY WITH NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE BUT THESE FUCKS GIVE ME SO MUCH TROUBLE
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>>172600605
I love greatswords but only up to a certain size. CKGS is just barely too big for my taste, while the mace is a perfectly realistic size and looks baller as fuck.
Go mace for life.
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>>172601658
>Full strength Gwyn.
The game would be fucking impossible.

Idk, though. SoL was a good way to have Gwyn kind of there, but not just rehash him. Putting actual Gwyn back in would kind of feel like a cop out.
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>>172592280
>>172589648
>>172596124

I always wondered, boys. What do you use to record gaming sessions and then making the webm? I'm looking for a way to record stuff but can't really find something besides Shadowplay and stuff.
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>>172601302
>exploring around the ringed city, just finished running like fuck from a dragon
>find a hidden hallways and a ladder to a secret chapel kind of area with a massive vertical tunnel
>accidentally fall down, because you're really not good at this whole adventuring thing
>somehow survive, find yourself in a big empty cave, and thank god there's a bonfire in here, you're out of homeward bones
>but something's wrong, you aren't able to warp away
>and then Midir finds you, rapes you to death repeatedly while you respawn at his bonfire, trapped until you manage to kill him or he gets bored enough to let you escape just to take the pleasure of hunting you down and dragging you back
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>>172601694
Wow it's like they can just heal forever and slowly widdle you down to death while insta ganking the painting guardians making it hard as shit.
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>>172601890
Shadowplay
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>>172601846
But hes the most not literally who and the most well known character.

Or maybe velka or kaethe
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>>172601846
If only the Soul of Cinder also had the power of the other Lord Souls to go along Gwyn's.
We never got to fight the Witch of Izalith properly, and with how many spiritual successors to other bosses we gotten over time it's sad that Nito never got one.
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Which one did you pick and why didn't you get the Old Moonlight?
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>>172601658
Dark Souls has never really been about fighting people in their prime. Hollow Gwyn in DS1 was perfect, and the homage to him in the Soul of Cinder fight was just the right amount of fanservice.
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>>172601952

Instant replay feature? It has an impact on performance? I always wondered about that feature.
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>>172601814
Stop spergin out, take a break, and come back to it in awhile.
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>>172602028
It's, like, 1 fps loss
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>>172602098

I guess I'll have to try it out. Thanks, senpai.
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>>172601951
with 3 phantoms the PGs get a boatload of hp and if you stick with them you can prevent them getting backstabbed when they heal. The spear fight is most definitely easier for you the more summoned phantoms there are.
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>>172601814
I don't know what to tell you anon, the DLC bosses aren't really that difficult. Midir is a health sponge, learn his attacks and it's simple, avoid letting him get far away from you, especially in second phase.

For Gael's second phase, roll forward to get behind him to dodge his attacks. Rolling backwards will just let his cape get hits off on you. Once again keeping close to him pays off. Being able to run circles around him at melee range completely negates his ring miracle and crossbow.
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>>172602018
I ate the soul because I didn't need either.
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>tfw DSA rings you out in front of your Sunbros
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>>172602425
You're the kind of person who frightens me most.
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>>172601317
>Vilhelm's Helmet
pinhead
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>>172600561
Is that Darkness?
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