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>>172585554
>>172583889
Weekend Tourney #4, this time on friday:
http://challonge.com/en/tournaments/signup/W8jGossAMz

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What do I craft?

is nep dead?

Need a concede

34902

Luna-chang kawaii

>frontlines is actually seeing use
well fuck me doggy style and call me orthrus

>>172585658
Cerberus.

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>>172585287
Not gonna happen

do you really manage to stall until T10 with blood?

5PP Azazel+3PP Demon commander laura+2PP Razory claw

and thats assuming they didnt warded beforehand

So what are Blood's good decks right now? You got Control, Midrange and what? Is bats cucked4good?

>Aegis in T2
but why though

I don't know if anyone cares but pure neutralcraft doesn't feel that bad to play anymore with the new synergistic cards and the fact that Sahaquiel has a shitton of viable targets now.

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Post elf
decks pls

Hydra OTK

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30926716

ayy lmao

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Now that alternate skins for cards are a thing, this means there's a high chance we're getting some holiday skins, right?

>>172585554
Anime when?

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SPOOKY SCARY SKELETONS
SEND SHIVERS DOWN YOUR SPINE
SHRIEKING SKULLS WILL SHOCK YOUR SOUL
SEAL YOUR DOOM TONIGHT
SPOOKY SCARY SKELETONS
SPEAK WITH SUCH A SCREECH
YOU'LL SHAKE AND SHUDDER IN SURPRISE
WHEN YOU HEAR THESE ZOMBIES SHRIEK!

>>172585658
Sibyl Gawain and Belphegor will probably be core to their respective crafts for a very long time to come.

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>>172585775
no

>>172585724
I told y'all about Front Lines and you mocked me.

>mulligan
>draw all my highest pp cards

haha ebin

SYLVAN LEAGUE MUST RISE UP AGAINST THE ELF GENOCIDE

REJECT THE DIVERSITY THAT THE DEVS TRYING TO PUSH ON US

>>172585614
>hey know what would be a great tempo class?
>the one that has to spend their early game playing 1 mana do nothing and 2 mana 1/1s to make their cards not suck

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>Hulking Giant isn't a win condition

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I could've played Lucifer

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I didn't play the expansion.
Give it to me straight is D-shift good or dead?

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Thoughts?

Requesting sword frog deck because why the fuck not.

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>>172584567
looks pretty ambush heavy

why 2 alberts though?

>>172585724
exactly what i feel

i think i dusted mine

>>172585782
>Need login

No way fag

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>Infinite removal dragon mirror

Whats good for Sword, Blood, Haven, and Dragon right now?

Trying to decide what to play, and don't have much to work with here.

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>try to play spooky skelly deck
>get out-bunga'd by batshitter in 4 turns

>>172585702
For now yes. They'd need to make a stronger combo for her to pull to see play again.

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>>172585287
Finally being able to meme your way with the motherfucking SOUL DEALER is more satisfying

>>172585703
P-please?

>>172585996
welcome to nicovideo, faggot

>don't draw ramp in rowen mirror
>lose
ah yes

>>172585928

Dshift is never dead. It will always stay relevant unless cygames prints a pure hate card for spellboost. Its Rune's best deck right now since Daria is semi-dead and dirt is a meme

Help for t2 please, Sword Shadow or Haven

>>172585759
As someone who has the most games played in blood and has 6 blood decklists atm, it's surprisingly easy to stall that long. It's harder to draw the combo (it's a 3 piece minimum unless they let you keep something on board and 4 if you need vengeance off blood moon). You basically instalose to combo since you don't have enough space in the deck to have an alternate win con before dshift and the like goes active. Against things like aggro and midrange it's not hard to live that long though.

That being said, after a lot of games with it I think the deck is complete garbage. Blood has at LEAST three much better decks this expansion.

so meta is:

ramp dragon - SS tier, no counters. will probably see nerfs in 2 months once Cygames gets enough death threats

vagaband frog sword - welcome the new meme deck that auto kills all aggro and does only kinda bad vs control/ramp

aegis haven - just throw it anywhere and it just werks


ToG more like tales of the gay

>>172584567

Shouldn't you always go with 3 Albert's? Theres literally no downside to the guy.

>>172585997
>>172585928
is impossible to know everyone is jerking off with dragon,haven,blood and shadow

Dshift has so much carddraw at this point I've dropped my merlins entirely and started running windblasts and petrifications to stop overdrawing.

>>172586050
Thanks vampire bro!

post dragon decks

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REMEMBER THE SNAKECAUST

>>172585763
Bats will always be viable for dailies in unranked. The opponent bricks even a little and they're still dead by turn 5-6.

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10 more games needed. Come draft terrible decks!

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>>172586142
You forgot baphomoonsnek
Mask is broken for me since it absorbs damage over the mask.

>>172586009
>Sword
Maybe 12k if you already have the core.
>Blood
23k if you already have the core.
>Haven
10-12k if you already have the core.
>Dragon
Depending on the variant, 20k-30k if you already have the core.

Assuming you didn't pull anything.

>>172585782
How even? You have to use zell to storm him which means you need 2 serpent's force for otk which you just can't ramp. If you emissary double cavalier into double pheonix roost into hydra zell force force I guess it could work but that's roach tier autistic shrieking at the RNG

>>172585829
I want to hit that with a pendant boosted double dragon wings barrage so bad

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>>172586094
help

>>172586142
>the new meme deck that auto kills all aggro
dunno why you think it's good vs aggro

>dragon daily
>dont have new cards
>aggro
>aggro
>aggro
>aggro
>aggro
>dshift
kill me

holy shit
just had the absolute draw luck I ever had in this game

it could have NOT been worse

fuck off

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>control forest might have been a real thing if they didn't decide to listen to the retarded playtesters who wanted Anomaly to be a worthless meme

Good thing I can at least play Dragon again

>>172585775
Put in 3 beetles to Roach/Tempo builds, throw 1 Queen and possibly the new healing ward over lion in anything else. That's all they got this set.

>>172586230
Why would he Sneks into a board of Sneks?

>literally can only play DShift now because Cygames decided that making a bunch of Gold/Silver level cards legendaries was a good idea and I don't have the vials to craft any new deck
Nice game.

FUCK DRAGON
FUCK GRIMNIR
FUCK RAHAB
FUCK ISRACUNT
FUCK MICUNT
FUCK BLAST

This whole expansion is a fucking mistake.

>>172586094
Sword > Shadow > Drag > everything else

>>172585763
Aggro bats is still alive but the decklist is very different now.

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>Albertcucks

>>172586364
just play otk and run some amulet removals

>>172586301
You don't exactly need otk with hydra. Just the fact you can use it to storm is useful.

>>172586274
baph snek isn't reliable enough, i suspect we'll see a baph snek control hybrid and then aggro dank air jammer/mid range dank jammer hybrids

not bad for blood, but i don't think we'll see any tier 1 blood decks until nerfs hit

>>172586469
What, still?

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Bloodcraft got the best waifus

Prove me wrong faggots

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>lose twice to blood snek in take two
WHAT DID CYGAMES MEAN BY THIS?

>>172586452
i'm still playing poorfag aggro blood from ages ago and I still win a lot of games
get good shitter

>>172586142
No. It is
1st Dragon
2nd Blood Snek
3rd Shadow ZBI3 ARMY
4th Sword Frog

>>172586364
Forest and Dragon main here too. I was completely expecting Forest to be amazing and Dragon to be dogshit up until the last releases. Funny how these things work.

>>172585658
Sibyl is core dragon. Roland has made csword the second coming of hitler. Beyond that you're going to get more mileage out of the core golds. unless you want to meme with sneks, mr bones, or pendants

>>172585739
If he grinds arena his cerbs will fall out eventually

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why is frog unironically so good?

>>172586403
To showcase his

>>172585829
There were people actually saying he was worse than Chimera pre-release.

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liquefy your collection to make this

>>172586142
>no counters
Amazing meme.

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>>172586459
>FUCK RAHAB
b-but muh 4pp do nothing with a trash effect

d-dies to dod

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>all i got were useless legendaries
>two fucking gingers

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>>172586389
F-forest is kill?
I got a elf queen from free packs, please say it ain't so.

>>172586471
how so? aggro bats got no support, airjammer is mostly midrange because needs you to exclude 1pp drops and it slows the deck significantly

snek combo is midrange combo too

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>>172586459
Is revolution time swordbb

>>172586142
If they barely touched Daria, they're not going to mess with anything in TotG.

>>172586534
>Forest and Dragon main here too. I was completely expecting Forest to be amazing and Dragon to be dogshit up until the last releases. Funny how these things work.

What makes you think Forest is amazing when they receive nothing worthwhile? The only good thing is beetle and Sukuna is hard to go off as desired. I already expected forest to be shit as a forest only player.

>>172585803
Yeah. I feel like they've been testing the whale waters pretty hard. I feel like if they get a good reception of this sugita shit and the latest jap whale sleeves, we'll definitely be getting summer and christmas sets at the least.

>>172586469
>>172586507
imo shadow is far and above now with skellingtons and zombies, lots of good bronze and silvers

post dragon decsk

>>172586589
You can squeeze 2 Israfils in there, stop being poor.

>>172586572
well, it was obvious that it's a hilarious card since his reveal

>>172586517
>reading comprehension
I am not complaining about not winning, illiterate retard, I am complaining that I can only play a single deck.
I don't give a fuck about how much of an ungacancer you are.

>>172586610
Don't let your memes be dreams.
https://twitter.com/darkness_mare/status/847348458071572482
This deck only runs one Ginger though kek

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>>172586508
>water is wet

>>172586508
Spiderweb Imp is the top waifu of the expansion.

>>172586507
You're talking to a guy who has only been able to play 1 day of the new t2. Same as everyone else.
I've played 3 classes on actual t2, and sword and shadow are still disgusting and have gotten me 4-1/5-0s.
I tried out blood and it was shit.
I've played drag on custom and it still seems insanely strong.
Rune was shit in customs.
Haven't done Forest or Haven yet, but assuming theyre still shit.

>>172585919
>tfw you didn't vial your Kaguyas, hoping it would be useful later on

>>172585901
It's not your fault he didn't run 3x gaze, 2 medusa, and 2 axes

>>172585928
The same as always, scooping up its good matches and coin flipping the rest.

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>>172586842

>>172586589
What are you supposed to do against DShift and Aegis?

I really wish that ToG never happened.

Is goblin Princess used in the new shadow deck or is she too slow?

>>172586670
I was expecting the 2nd legendary and last silver to do something special for control.

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>>172586572

Why i vialed frontline?

this card wans't so bad fuck you meta cancers average card ae not vial tier.

>>172586572
wtf is that sleeve they're using

>>172586907
Hit them in the face with Forte

>>172586987
Control forest still doesn't have a board clear

>>172586946
t. Runebab

>>172586508
who is she?

>>172586572
ARE THOSE MELVIE SLEEVES?

>>172586635
You use blood moon with things like airjammer and dark general now

>>172585954
Not him but it sends people into apocalyptic fits in addition to giving you additional reach and the flexibility to contest the board or clear wards when you don't have or don't want to blow a cyclone.

>>172585997
Now you know what it felt like to play as dragon for 6 months

>>172586469
Shadow is far better right now.

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>>172587020
Im@s CG promo sleeves. If I had started playing when the promotion was on like my friend told me to, I'd have them too.

>1 left on Mask of death
>play Soul Dealer or Belphegor
>take no damage
Woah

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>>172586946
i wish crybbs abandoned the game

>>172587146
no retard, the enemy

>>172587020
the guy modded his game, he didn't even bother to use the full art, he used a rage of bahamut's card instead

>>172586049
All hail meme peddler

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what the FUCK is this

I honestly didn't look at all the new cards that came out

this expansion really feels like powercreep to infinity. sneks, 18/18 goems, aegis, dragon healing and banishing better than haven, etc.

You know who's cute AND good? Sonia.

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Need a concede, 95118

>>172586952
Its used in t2. Otherwise you can use her in mammoth atomemes.

>>172586632
>be class with cards that have shit independent power level so you have to stall until you can roach combo
>cygames introduces a bunch of op wards that fit in any deck
>cygames gives more classes god tier midgames to run over your pitiful attempts at stalling
>cygames lets other classes tutor their win conditions while you have to hope you draw into it with your garbage card draw
yeah its ogre

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>>172586684
>>172587145
do I take left?

Please concede: 26664

>>172586907
this >>172587051

Just played against the most retarded t2 sword deck I've ever seen, it had EVERYTHING you could imagine including roland and leonidas plus other bullshit

unkillable
so retarded
roland needs to be deleted

>>172587331
Left

>>172587268
big guy strikes again

>>172587268
Just Themis bro.

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best girls!

>>172587303
Thanks vampy!

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>>172587329
>>172586632

poor forest players don't have a deck with 60 % of WR for the first time

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i have made an eachtar deck

you either feed the reaper to 10/10 with the endless skellies or you keep a board filled with skellies long enough for wind god or eachtar

tons of shadow generation too for tempest/howl

>>172586514
They want take 2 matches to end faster too obviously. So many retarded winbombs now. At least Satan cycled out.

>>172587349
Thanks manly vampire bro.

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Any flame/glass meme dick lists?

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Where my swordbros at?
Bring out your frogs.

>blew 18k or so vials making satancats Aegis deck
>its clunky garbage that bricks more often than not
>"just stall lmao" doesnt work and most of the time I either die before 9 or can't deaddrop aegis turn 9 or I'll die there
>basically only win against dragon and shadow with it
Fuck. I should've just waited for tier lists to be updated.
I really wanted to stick with Haven but Aegis is so much less fun than Seraph.

>>172586364
They wanted anomaly to have a cool effect so it really felt special when you did shit with it instead of being some kind of ancient forest dragon literally nobody cares about because it's obsoleted.

>>172586459
It's a 2/5 man and it's virtually always behind the stat curve unless you brick to give them space during which it's either still behind enough to eat evo effects/budget damage or you just assblast it in the face with removal.

Welcome to what dragon had to put up with for 6 fucking months by the way. Enjoy your stay or don't.

>>172587268
just bane the big guy

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>>172587557

>>172585829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTgFtxHhCQ0

>>172587268

CRASHING THIS BOARD

WITH NO SURVIVORS

>>172587427

i honestly think im just gonna play haven so i can themis everything

>>172587416
magical big guy is pretty freakin big, man

>>172587486
>Those boo boos looks bad
Hnnng

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feels good man

>>172587592
I only crafted 1 Aegis and I still regret it. There doesn't seem to be many options for slow decks now, though, so I don't really know what to play. Can't afford any dragon decks

>tfw unpacked animated otohime and know that I can't justify using it

>>172587268
Just revelation, bro :^)

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>>172586240
My god the value on that fairy cage is actually pretty sick in take 2, unfortunately it was either that or Anomaly and a White wolf

>>172587732
>thought frog would make rogues creed playable
>any frog played after creed makes it useless
feelsbadman

>>172586589
thinking about dropping ivory dragon for another bahamut and 2x ourobos y/n?

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9 Left. There's Zero Escape!

Room #: 14339
Format: Reverse Take Two

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>>172587504
>>172587329
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?!?!

WE WERE THE CHOSEN ONES!

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>>172587669
do not have impure thoughts about such qties

>>172587486
I don't think they even cared that it does nothing, they just wanted it to be the cutest card in the set.

Test of Strength is a meme in aegis right? It literally does nothing unless you have aegis, and guardian sun is better against opposing aegis. Why do I see people running Elana's, that card seems like a meme too

>>172587532
DShift Flame and Glass is the most viable one.

>>172587557
Post deck please. Still not being able to use Gawain has left me in despair.

>>172587268
play righteous devil instead of dark general, idiot.

kanahana a shit.

>>172587874
Yeah, I was surprised myself. GG.

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>>172587913
you are all spoiled slutties

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>see some people in the past threads saying that gawain will change nothing
so I guess we can expect gawain to change everything right?

all the sword players in this thread seem to be using the new frog to win, but once gawain comes out, we'll see a lot more decks popping up.

post dragon decks

>>172587372
I played against a guy that had two Leonidas and Mammoth amulets. There's actually nothing you can do about that.

>>172587762
but she has cute feet

>>172588102
posted mine above, i'm wondering if i can swap ivory dragon for heavier things though. also wondering if i should drop dragoon for another ourobos but i like dragoon so much

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>>172588082

Fishies and snekies battles SOON

>>172588082
svg also said shadow was dead so lol

>>172588190
You can replace ivory with Zell for the 13/13 storm saha memes.

I still use seabrands and I don't care who knows it

>>172587953
It's also a meme addition for another pseudo GS. I even just had a game where I never drew GS but ToS won it.

>>172588082
I don't know why people think he'll fix everything. Turn six is too late to get started in this meta. Our best new card is Luminous Mage, people just don't realize it's way more powerful in aggro than control. And honestly, it's looking like aggro is sword's only hope for survival right now.

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We did it lads, we had a new peak today

>>172588232
really makes my horde hungry

>>172587268
Just Meduza's gaze bro

>>172588241
Dragon and Nep players were proclaimed it was dead. Everyone else knew aggro/mid-range would save the class WR as always.

>>172588082
I'm still running CSword in Masters. It's not that bad.

>>172588280
i'm really just trying to fit in as many legendaries as i can while keeping it viable

>>172588082
gawain won't facilitate anything except the return of otomeme

>>172588371

Really cyclones my blades

I die a little on the inside every time I hear tsubaki's new voice

>>172586589
Joke's on you, I don't have to.

...but I'm not about to craft any leggo I haven't naturally pulled at least one of.

>>172587557

Post yer deck. I am having a hell of a time trying to cobble together a deck in this meta and I need help.

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>>172587732
Share deck please? I'm trying to see what each frog anon is playing so I can make my own deck with the cards I have just started playing, don't have much

>tfw refuse to craft anything because I could just get it from a pack

>>172586572
Because very few decks have random destruction, board destruction, or sufficient random/board damage to hit his evo let alone once you start getting fencer/forge weaponry into him and they never will because those cards eviscerate the opponents other matchups where it's ineffective against aggro and their overall list is worse at control than an actual control list. It doesn't hurt that you basically don't care about multi-ward either. Lastly, it solved the needs an officer problem in the best way (for sword at least). Officer generators suffered from having poor stats and making tokens with poor stats that even with banner simply couldn't keep up. Ironwrought fortress suffered from having to curve and struggling against thick bodies and a lack of draw against repeated board clear. Arthur's light's knight was too weak which could cause choking against thicker followers if you can't transfer from single officer boosts into commander/spell board boosts and face to force them to trade into your board instead of mulching your board on them. Support cannon suffers from insufficient damage either inferno dragon syndrome if you don't use follower generation/ironwrought, and all the problems light gets in addition to board clog since you can't storm your tokens if cannon and last turns follower's can't clear the way ahead. Ultimately in all of them, they get mauled by a combination of fanfare and evo effects killing off multiple followers per turn, the rush/evo trade into the main once you've been boosting and/or most board clears like salamander melting your entire board which further stalls a game you've already stalled then you lose momentum and never recover from baha-odin-satan

Frogger is hard to remove by meta cards, easy to boost, easy to curve multiple recurring boost, easy to contest the board with old commanders, and can stabilize while continuing the face race with cyclone. It's absolutely brutal how effectively they solved the officer problem

>>172588280
Zell+Ouro is cheaper though.

>2 Sahas, need 1 more
>2 Bahas
>No Lucys, Isra and Zoos
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Fuck I'm forced to tech in Bahamut in my whatever Ramp since consecutive sneks is fucking retarded. Hell it's an unholy union of Daria and Otoememe.

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>New ramp dragon has only 1 bronze card
I guess this game really is turning into pay-to-win my goys :(

Holy fuck Black Mask is annoying

>>172588740
just execution bro

>>172588676
ivory dragon and dragon oracle are both bronze. how do you cut either of those?

>>172588539
>>172587997
I'm using >>172584567
It works pretty okay, I might change some stuff out like putting in Tsubaki in case the game goes longer than usual.

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Shadow reaper and prince catacomb, partners in crime

>>172586610
Get a shift and you'll otk with gingerboo
Even if you didn't, You can double erasmus/lucifer


>>172586632
They don't have a 77% winrate anymore. Dark times ahead... ;_;7

>>172588676
>Blazing Breath
>Oracle
>Aiela
>Dragoon Scyther
>eggs

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Forest is fine guys, forest is cygames pet class!
not pictured, more losses

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I don't like this at all.

Games are down to who draws their broken card first.

Game was never so bad. Not even early Daria and Roach come close to this bullshit.

>Aegis mirrors just devolve into who gets it first

Really fucking gay and lame.

>>172588740
just lightning blast bro

>>172588819
see >>172588280

>>172588859
Jesus fuck, that's beautiful man

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>>172587898
I hope you liked your no earth sigils earthrite deck, senpai :^).

>>172588942
not sure i'm buying into it, evo points aren't free and it's a 3 card combo

>>172588569
>Sitting on nearly 40k vials
>Still refuse to make anything yet
It sucks, there's lots of decks I want to try but Dragon/Haven is pretty much invalidating everything but hyper aggro and combo.

>>172588904
this is the worst meta the game has ever seen. They completely killed an entire craft (forest) while completely breaking other crafts (dragon, blood) im already fucking sick of this shit 1 dasy in

>>172586946
In a sick sort of way, I kind of like it. Another 2-3 of expansions like this and RoB and we'll enter a mad world of a wide meta where no one deck can effectively outperform all the others because there's too wide of a spread of needed responses

>>172588676
>aiela
>oracle
That's two

Also Scyther, which is definitely worth it because its 3 mana removal and allows you to clear a large ward or some other large minion and Forte the same turn.

>>172588931
It's actually worse than Seraph mirrors since you can't even play Odin or hope they have no countdown cards.

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8 more games needed. Gespenst, KIIIIIICKU!!!

Room #: 41065
Format: Reverse Take Two

>>172589081
otk roach still beats snakes, don't be a shitter.

>>172589081
why cant you roach combo?

Need private match achievements

46033

17/20

Please and thank you

>>172586994
Why would you vial a quickblader that makes another quickblader every turn you have an officer?

>>172587051
No, you only kill a fucking 4/8 target immune Mainyu is fucking all. Noble fairy and let it rip you putz.

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>>172588904
>playing aggro shadow
>blood does his 6 turn snek combo
>doesn't matter because I have lethal next turn
I guess all shadow cards are broken.

>>172586632
Forest is buttfucked. Unless Anomeme gets better support, it's tier X.

Shit's too hard to compete, I only won my dailies since my opponents kept misplaying.

>>172588819
>playing Ivory

>>172586946
I was legitimately enjoying ROB aside from aggro games but theres not even that much aggro in masters. This is just pure fucking cancer. Guess im getting left behind...
>>172589179
What the fuck does forest do against a full board of 5/5s on turn 6 you fucking retard
>>172589182
Dragon is constantly at 20 hp and has 10 pp on turn 6/7
blood floods the board and you autolose

no other craft is being played aside from haven, and they just ward, heal, then aegis then i lose the game

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>Shadowbabs are wiping me off with mammoth amulets+atomeme and hordes of skeletons

MAKE IT STOP

>>172589179
>>172589182
>just otk them by turn 7 despite the fact that they're playing cards with broken vengeance effects and you're playing trash to generate fairies
good call moonbabs

>>172589320
turn 1 ivory stops sword and shadow aggro pretty cold. what legendaries would you suggest i change it for?

how much longer til the netdecks come

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>>172588904
>>172589081
>>172589387

forestbbs are crying feels bad

>>172587268
Dude, you have alpha wolfman bane, venom snek's bane, medusa's gaze, medusa, medusa+axe and that's just off the top of my head. Meanwhile, they basically killed themselves to make big guy. They aren't going to have a charged daria, they wont have a fiery embrace+charged arcane enlightenment so the melvie will recharge your answers. He's basically done because he doesn't get that big guy is for pressuring the board not assisting his suicide.

>put down test of strength
>enemy attacks my face anyway despite me having followers in my area

uh, what?

>>172589515
i'll come in your ass

Anyone have a good control deck list?

>>172589390
>haven't made a new atomy deck because I only have 2
soon

>>172589407
Ivory is not and was never played by Ramp Dragon. If you want to answer turn 1 aggro, you have Blazing Breath.

>>172589543
keep dreaming you impotent weebcuck

>>172589230
What?

sword is now top tier in arena btw

>>172587532
No.
Dshift is the most reliable way to get it out.
You used to be able to play them on t10 in sword with shadowed assassin or late game in haven under shit like snake priestess or two but the game is way, way too fast now. F&G is obsolete.

Roach spam still seems decent, especially with the new roach.
Kinda want to try it with that chick that potentially gains +4/+4 on evolve next.

>>172589601
I've been running 2 Atomemes in my regular aggro Shadow because so often you have a bajillion skeletons on turns 3/4, working alright so far

'''''''''''''''Control'''''''''''''''' sword will be the next big cancer. Forget about le snakes, dragon and Aegis. This class is fucking stupid.

>>172588904
>Not even early Daria and Roach come close to this bullshit
Pre-nerf Roach was a pretty consistent turn 7 kill, and while being able to run all their 1-drops they could still easily shut down aggro which is supposed to counter combo.

I won't even talk about how retarded turn 4 Levi/Rune/Crimson into turn 5 Daria vomit was.

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...didn't realize this can happen now

Left or right here?

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quit the game stop posting if you don't like runebb,forestbb and swordbbs.

>>172589538

Were they in ambush? They have to be valid attack targets.

Post aggro blood dicks pls, still running DE bats since I skipped an xpac

Would storm haven be a good counter to the new ramp dragon and dshift?

>>172589524
>its perfectly fine for cygames to completely kill an entire craft to a point where its unplayable
You are one of the reasons why this game will die. I'm seriously considering going back to hearthstone

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>>172589183
46033

18/20 lets go go go

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30928350

frog vs ramp

>>172589387
>What the fuck does forest do against a full board of 5/5s on turn 6 you fucking retard
you pressure them by having an early game and then feena on 5. they waste TWO turns by playing moon and baphomet. that's more than enough to get some chip in and then finish with roach on 6.

are all forest players braindead or something?

>>172589736
I already ran into 2 on the ladder and they fucked my ass right up.
And this is without Gawain. I'm scared anon.

>>172589736
roland with leonidas makes me want to puke

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This is your hand for the night

>>172589795
cya

Would making Homecoming and Harvest Festival back to their former selves save forest?

>>172589795
cya don't come here again no one want dorty roach players again

>people complaining about """"the meta""" 1 day into the expansion
Sasuga /svg/.
I still remember the "Yurius is overstatted" posts.

>>172589794
no dragon rapes storm haven, but yeah it beats d shift. Only blood and d shift beat dragon and only haven and daria beat blood
>>172589854
>pressure
>against yurius, or spiderweb imp
>they drop blood moon into righteous devil
try actually playing the game YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>172589725
Tried a Tempo build with Sakuna for about a dozen matches. She worked out maybe twice, but is otherwise a Fighter. It just isn't worth the trouble when you could use Lyrial and get the extra damage without having to combo it.

>>172588082
The only thing gawain does is empower memes in the sky to ramp leonidas for an otomemer otk. But you got dickall for followers so you'll be dead long before you could do it even after you autolose against dragon

what are seer's globes?

>>172589795
kek
no one will miss you crying forestbitch

>>172589879
>femboy harem

a-ok with me

>>172589795
>its ok for dragon and blood be shit since forever

>ITS NOT OK THAT MY FORESTCRAFT WAS KILLED REEEEE

kys

>>172589928
Yes

Reminder that forest players reacted this way at the start of last expansion as well and were complaining about Wolf sucking.

>>172589876
Shit's hard to pull off though.

>>172590015
my balls

>>172589795
it hasn't even been a full 24 hours

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>>172589981
but Yurius is oversttated and killed sword and forestbin RoB

So whats an actual capable deck to craft first?

Blood sneks
Aggro/Mid shadow.ft Eachtar and prince
Vagabond Frog
Eidolon Grail
Aggro Blood

Is Dshift still good?

>>172589795
>I'm seriously considering going back to hearthstone
I thought HS had 2 dead classes with less than 2% play rate?

>>172589981
He is, though. There just happens to be more offensive cards in the game.

>>172589986
>yurius and imp in a snek tutor deck
b2?

>>172590015
Nobody knows, they're not in the game yet.

>>172589320
>Not playing ivory
But muh token chomper
Muh hand cycle destiny draw in overflow
Muh 1pp draw+durrgin cause I ramped a wyrm spire

>>172590202
Frog decks
Isn't the costliest card in that are Tsubakis?

>>172589727
I can actually see control teching barrage again if that deck takes off. I just threw catacomb and two orthus into my RoB aggro build and it's working a lot more consistently than it did before.

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>only play aggro
>never have to waste my vials on legendaries

who else /intelligant/ here?

>>172590043
Blood had a tier 1 deck all of standard (control) and ROB (aggro) and control was tier 2

Dragon was tier 1 in standard. Aggro dragon was tier 1 in ROB, Ramp and sahaluci was solid tier 2.

Please stop fucking posting you inbred fucktard

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>midrange

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>this is your hand
>You get roached on t7
>what do you do

>>172589795
>smug forestfags showing you all their powerful roaches even tough they could kill you with just one
Eat shit

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Is beast dominator the worst legendary ever made?

>>172589758
they adjusted the distro. You get to pick class value at the start and end and only 1 neutral value in the middle. It's in the news posts

>>172590043
So it wasn't ok for dragon and blood to be shit, but it IS ok for forest to be shit? Balance isn't about taking turns being trash

>>172590107
remember with rob when people said dragon forest and sword were all dead in the water? All three ended up being high tier at some point in the expansion. People don't know shit about this game

>>172590395
soul dealer

>>172590168
Did we even play the same game? Forest had good matchups with blood across the board

>>172590395
Jeanne?

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>hey guys frog is great and super fun you'll see
>haven absolutely shits all over it
>20% win rate if they brick
>over half of all decks on ladder right now are haven

>>172590380
I would post that animated airjammer webm

>>172590453
It is, no game will ever be truly balanced

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7 more games needed. I got nothing clever to say

Room #: 41065
Format: Reverse Take Two

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>>172590395
She makes up for it by being the hottest one

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>>172589795
Huh? I can't hear you through this 6ft of dirt over me for 6 months

>>172590015
Read the fucking news posts you inbred waste of air. God forbid you actually fucking learn something.

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>>172586952

Not sure if she's optimal or not, more cerb would probably be better instead but don't have more than 1. Went on a 13 win streak to AA2 with this, faced all but forest and sword but mostly dragon and haven.

>>172590461
Yeah man im sure theres going to be counterplay to dragon healing for 30 and having 10 pp by turn 6. Or blood autowinning on turn 5 (dark windjammer) and autowinning on turn 6 (snakes)

Oh boy cant wait for 3 months of this.

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Why is this allowed?

post snek decks

>>172589642
and then draw it turn 10 topdecking..

>>172589795
Dragon has been shit for two expansions, cry me a river. Let them have their time on top.

>>172590461
people don't realize that this is the first day, and only the most obvious, unoptimized braindead shit is seeing play

took a while for people to come up with otk roach, although sword needed rune and forest to be nerfed to reach the state it was a week ago

>>172590297
Evidently you don't play Shadow Aggro

>>172590604
Hey you fucking autist, maybe if you actually played the game instead of shitposting all day you would realize that dragon had a tier 1 deck the entirety of standard, half of ROB, and now TOG.

>>172590395
She's fine, they just didn't have the support for her and then they immediately obsoleted her with baphomet into sneks and airjammer wide board

>>172590543
Did you not expect to lose against the decks that don't care about ambush/target immune? honestly?

>tfw start playing the game a few days before expansion hits
>didn't get fuck all from standard, darkness and bahamut
>now buying a lot of totg packs but I realize I lack so many cards from previous sets to make pretty much all decks I see here

kill me

>>172590514
Keep with the times gramps

>>172590656
Because cygames explicitly said in their interview that they want d-shift, daria, and rune to all be competitive tier 1 decks.

But godforbid shadow gets one.

>>172590745
what the actual fuck is this meme. AGGRO DRAGON WAS A THING LAST EXPANSION YOU FUCKING AUTIST IT WAS ONE OF THE BEST FUCKING DECKS KILL YOURSELF

>>172590543
>over half of all decks on ladder right now are haven
Certainly not here in 5k Masters.

>>172590801
>playing worst craft

LOL

>>172590297
So you only play bat aggro forever and ever? Well whatever floats your boat, that one masters guy can apparently stomach it for thousands of matches.

>>172590543
Are you Masters?
I haven't run into a Haven since yesterday. It's all rune, blood and dragon.
All 3 of those just get absolutely destroyed.

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>>172590803
>"Dragon"
UTSU!

By that metric, forest is fine because they can play tempo neutralcraft.

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T1:pass
T2:Black mask or removal
T3:Goblin mage or blood moon
T4:any removal like vampire kiss or horde,righteous devil
T5:baphomet
T6:big snek board

do i need 1PP drops?

>>172590745
Only /svg/ memers actually believed Dragon was shit. There wasn't a single class in RoB that was ever lower than T2.
Face/Aggro was T2 in RoB, and I think in DE as well.
Ramp/SahaLuci had a short tenure in T1, then T2 in RoB.

>>172589736

You know the rule. You mention it, you post a list

>>172590845
post your legos and golds

most new decks on release require you to have a collection already, and tog is especially expensive

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>mfw /svg/ doesn't know about the secret S tier forest deck right now
>no, it's obviously not roaches

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>Board clears
>in 2017
Good luck, I'm behind 7000 skeletons.

>>172591030
I'm just so amazed at the amount of stupidity in a single post on 4chan. I've been on this fucking website for 8 years now and i have never seen something so fucking retarded in my life. You are a literal waste of oxygen. Please do the world a favor and jump off of a bridge.

>>172591170
tempo with beetles

As of now Dragon ramp,Shadow token vomit >bloodmoonsnak>everything else?

>>172590395
Flute is probably the worst.

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>>172591195
<-----

>>172589179 >>172589387 >>172589394

otk needs ~ t7-8... snakes need t7 too, i mean you summon them on t6 but they need t7 to hit face

i think otk can have a good chance vs snakes

>>172591061
>Puts a meh deck right into T1 cause it countered a tourney meta
>Drops down into the dumpster where its draw luck belonged
You're a fucking retard

>>172590395

Did that doujin come out yet?

30 packs, ~10 goldens, 1 Elf Queen. That's it. I didn't know Cygames took lessons from Blizzard in scam department.

>>172591241
aggro blood is tier 1. It beats dragon ramp. bloodsnake, and heavenly aegis. It only loses to aggro shadow and aggro sword

>>172591298
He did, look at the skeletons. Those are what remained of a Themis.

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>>172590593
>BD is the hottest card

you dense son of a my fucking man of taste

>>172591298
Who is this guy

>>172590989
No on mentioned Forest

>>172591371
Deathmask cucks roach.

>>172590738
Yeah, that "free" 1/2 will definetely win you the topdeck battle.

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>faggot Rowen puts out Sibyl, 2 Israfils, Zeus, 2 Fortes, Sahaquiel, and the obligatory Lightning Blasts
>finally kill them all
>ORE NO TURN
>WARE HA FURERAREZARU KOUKI

I love this fucking card.

>>172591427
You're just unlucky. I got 2 leggos and 16 golds in my 10 freebies

>>172591467
me

>>172591403
I'm just saying what I saw. Go bitch at game-ai if you have a problem, autist.

>>172590274
Don't fucking remind me about her.

>Dub recasts all sorts of bitches
>Majority are improvements or acceptable alternatives
>But THIS
>THIS
>fucking THIS BITCH
>takemybladeofresentment
>vanish like the dEWWWww

I get it. She was entirely inaudible during actual matches. But that doesn't mean you have to turn her into a fucking 6 year-old with entirely different and inappropriate emoting.

REEE

I'll forgive them if they get around to changing OG Erasmus to match the leader and Secrets.