AGDG - Amateur Game Development General

gogem finally posted progress my life is now complete as a dev

loli jam is not taking place on itchio
loli jam is an AGDG exclusive

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>>172568368

no. fucking make a new thread, come on. i would rather have a fucking braap jam than this progress repelent shit. who the fuck would post progress with this as the OP.

>2 week long jam, announced a month ago
3 joined
>3 day throwaway jam, literally posted today
4 joined

really makes you ponder

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>>172568368
reposting me and sneks agdg underwater jam entry :)
you play a pregnant mermaid
https://youtu.be/NoJc95xeB8U

Do you consider research, playing similar games etc. as dev time

>>172568972
Yes. But I also never get anything else done so maybe not...

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>>172568591
how are we supposed to publish games on 4chan?

>>172568868
Back to Discord!

>>172569070
upload to any file host, link it

>>172568868
and then the jam people are complaining about being excluded from it was a public jam had like triple that

Up Down Left Right or Up Left Down Right?

>>172569141
you have messy code hard to read

>>172568779
Pixel perfect hitboxes can be unpredictible if the sprite size changes with animation. A box collider at the center of the sprite, slightly smaller than the sprite, is the most forgiving hitbox.

>>172568972
>Research
Sure.
>Playing similar games
Sure, but make sure you are actually paying attention to what the game does right. Treat it as if you actually had a job at a game studio: would you be playing games on company time, or your own? It depends. You'd definitely be searching for reference on company time.

>>172569334
For order in a switch statement, whatever.
If you have an enum that defines directions make it go clockwise or counterclockwise so you can ++ the enum.

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>>172567635
please tell me that at least you didn't even try, this took me at most fifteen minutes to do

>>172569464
it's not a book

What's the COMFIEST game engine?

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>>172569567
why is so fat though?

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>>172570178
It's the american version.

Noob question.
I'm a programmer and want to get into game deving. I'm good in Java so first, is it a good langage for it ? I know you can do pretty mmuch everything with every langage but since Unity and Unreal use C# and C, it's obvious that using one of them would be a better solution. Wich brings me to my second question, wich level you should attain to make the best use of these engines? I'm used to make some basic application and web apps so the methodology isn't the same as doing a game (wich I never even tried).

Are there some good books on learning how to make a game like the right way of thinking, structuring and managing your game projects ?

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>>172569241
I'm not offended at all.
I started working on it, but now I can't decide what looks better honestly.

>>172570669
Fun with a Mouse
Programming on the Right Side of the Brain
Keys to Coding

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>>172570538
hipoints are fucking cancer
they are hands down the ugliest fucking pistols I've ever seen

How do you persuade an ideaguy to your idea?
I need someone dedicated enough to make content other than me. and come up with cooler stuff than I do.

>>172570767
>pillowshading
need to loomis it up pal

>>172571504
can't read loomis
his women are fucking ugly

>>172571173
Be more specific please, the first and third thing return a shitload of different results in google.

>>172571726
can't draw either
sucks for you

I'm going to join and make a game for the loli jam only because it triggers people in this thread.

>>172571994
>he fucking fell for it

>>172572134
This is a blue board.

>>172568368
better OP but still no webm howto?

>>172571178
Low rent thug's favorite gun

>>172568972

I consider making games in 2 stages. first is design stage which is any research and design of the game needed. Then the most important part is the actual development stage. This is where you actually get something that brings you closer to finishing your project.

>>172572134
Make a Yotsuba to game

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Today I got picking up and putting down rocks to work. It's relatively simple, but it does work. But I can also use some tuning. Because the game insists on the rock being aligned to the grid, it might be put down too far away to be immediately picked up again. This is so it's never accidentally set on top of the player. I may just have to extend the pick up range.

https://my.mixtape.moe/muntqw.webm
anybody making racing/drift/initial D themes game and want to talk about it/collab?

Add me on discord : crowjambo
#0158

landed a job at a local gamedev company yesterday
mobile shit but whatever

A-am I still allowed to shipost here senpaitachi

>>172574228
People still play mobile shit?

>>172574319

mobile cancer shit is the most played shit. candy crush, clash of clans and shit are all making tons of money.

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>>172574319
ummm

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>>172574319
hope you're fucking proud of yourself

>>172573875
Sent a request but I'm having a birthday drink with some friends so I'll follow up in a couple hours.

>>172574469
>console 1/6th of PC
wew

>>172574319
Mobile is the biggest normie platform.

i'm in the mood for an adult anime/hentai adventure game. there was this one game with a boy who had heart problems and got into a cripple school. not sure what the name was. are there more games like this?

>>172574623
hulking majority of PC revenue is subscriptions, microtransactions though
standalone single player games probably made 2-3 billion at most

>>172574469
>gaming video
that mean lets players?
are the 4billion lets players seriously earning a dollar and ten cents each?

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tfw when devving while waiting for rocket launch

>>172574469

From this it looks like trying to make a single player game is not worth it. Making some shitty mobile game over the weekend like flappy bird or whatever has a chance to get way more money.

>>172574623
PC is very top-heavy.

A couple games rake in most of the $

>>172568368
Well, this is what I get for assuming someone would make a good thread. Next time I'll make a non-pedo thread. I personally apologize for this disgusting OP.

>>172575289
>hmm when I check these figures it seems like getting a job and investing is not worth it
>sucking cock on the off chance that the guy whose cock you're sucking will win the lotto has a chance to get way more money

>>172575289
you're looking at successful outliers whether its mobile or pc. Mobile is even MORE crowded than pc single player because the barrier to entry is so low.

you're like 6 years late at this point

>>172574469
It even gets worse when you know that most of the indie current games on pc are just mobile ports.

Every time i load a scene in unity, it loads on top of everything that was previously on the scene. Nothing gets deleted. Why?

I've been here for 2 hours, still can't figure it out.

>>172575615
Use Godot, it doesn't have that problem.

>>172568779
Depends on the situation.
You can have:
Precise
Imprecise
Precise mask
Different shaped masks
Different masks per frame
Various collision checks in code
Etc.

>>172575289
>playing the odds
good way to end up sleeping on the street

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I'm developing a turn-based 2d rpg. My inspirations are FF4, FFX, and Wii Punchout. I intend to allow the player to adjust the way the game is presented. Do you want it to be ATB ala FF4, or CTB ala FFX? Flip a switch in the options menu. I have the back-end working already for this. Are you tired of facing the group of 3 kobolds and 1 Ogre you keep running into? Turn off repeat encounters, and you'll only encounter battles particular battles once.

I'm thinking of making a youtube series about my game to build an audience. It would detail my thoughts on the genre, the features of my game and behind the scenes development details.

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>>172575289
strange way to look at it
there is hundred bazillion mobile games and only maybe top 100 are really putting a dent on that revenue figure
what kind of cut from those 40 billion dollars do you think is your flappy bird #48564668911 going to get?

>>172575845
this seems... really hard to balance.
good luck with it

>>172575274
1.) Is that your game or?
2.) What program is that, the one you are writing code in?

>>172576068
No it's not a game, look up huffman coding.
I'm using Emacs with custom config

I am thinking of making a 3d combat battle arena game so first level would big giant spiders and you have to face them and next level you would have to fight big skeletons until level 5 where you fight a boss

how difficult would this be to make?

>tfw doing precalculus with wildberger
>tfw raining outside
>tfw comfy as fuck
>tfw studying CS in college and soon I'll be the best coder here.

feels comfy

>>172576196
>No it's not a game
/agdg/ in a shellnut

>>172576196
Okay. Is it an engine or just a text editor?

>>172575919
This. Flappy bird was a viral thing that normies took a liking to.

You can't predict that shit. You'd be better off learning Farmville's gameloop and copying it into something else.

>>172576332
A text editor.

>>172576323
>if you don't dev game all day everyday you're not a game developer. You can't dev other things.
/agdg/ everyone.

>>172576312
>doing homework on 4chan
mm effective

>>172576307
Depends on the sort of mechanics you want to add. But basic player movement and attacking is fairly easy. The enemies shouldn't be much harder. The real hard part is making the art for it all.

>>172576540
What C++ library are you using to make that game with programming only? Graphics.h?

>>172576749
yeah I just want basics mechanics so like character I will model is a knight with a sword and shield maybe 1 or 2 spells and the enemies have one or 2 attacks like spider jump attacks you. Do you think this will be doable for 1 guy? I already know how to 3d model in Blender and program

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Some nig just stole my laptop from the library. Had all my shit on it.
How do I into /vigilante/ mode?

>>172576312
Modern CS courses don't make you a good programmer, they make you an indoctrinated corporate slave.

Reminder that soundcloud also has a bunch of music that you can use commercially.

Maybe it should also be in the OP?

>>172576023
Yes, the ATB to CTB switch does cause balancing issues. Obviously, any time wasted not picking a move in the ATB would be considered a loss when compared to using the CTB. The ATB does have a wait timer the player can customize by choosing how many frames to wait up when someone's turn comes up. By default it pauses for about 2-3 seconds when a characters turn comes up, after that you're burning time.

Thanks for the reply

>>172576913
It's not a game I said.

>>172577000
Yeah, should be possible. Try making a basic prototype first, just the player and one enemy. If you get stuck on anything look things up, ask questions, try to learn. Then expand it into more enemies and more player attacks.

>>172577201
Oh, shit. I am so damn dense. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE?

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Currently still writing shaders, i guess once i have those i'll make a first demo version where you can select a few animations change the speed/intensity of those and i'll add gameplay later, i'll use this demo as a sort of tech demo so i can sort bugs in my shaders out since the AMD graphics card in my old pc is pretty much dead and i only have a nvidia card right now. (AMD tends to have trouble with opengl).
Interactive animations/scenes are still planned.
webm is still blenders ugly viewport shader

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I've got a few really small games that I'm doing to try to git gud. What should I do with them when I'm done with them?

>>172576312
Have a CS degree; I learned almost nothing about how to code games.

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>Calls himself a yesdev
>Doesn't use inconsolata

>>172577475
the only useful course in CS for making games is logic algorithms

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>>172577401

>>172577350
he's trying to impress gamedev

well, will you look at this mad anon, using emacs and coding huffman shit, wow
what a dank hacker

>>172577518
Using an Alex Jones meme doesn't make your opinion more correct.

>>172577401
teach me your 3d modeling ways

>>172577518
>Says he's making a high quality 3D game
>Isn't using /cryengine/

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>>172577687
Hell yes it does.

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>>172577687
>Using the face of a living god doesn't make your opinion more correct
I bet you use comic sans in visual

>>172576312
cs buds tend to be extremely shitty programmers

beware, try not falling for the meme completely and don't forget to code a lot while proving that knapsack problem is np-hard or whatever

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>>172577676
What a dwingle!

>>172577823
REPUBLICANS, RAPISTS AND GOBLINS!

>>172577859
Correction, I use FB Agency in Visual.

>>172577401
I'm having a little modeling trouble here, how did you do your eyes?

daily reminder that going to school to learn CS and complaining there's no gamedev is like going to an art atelier to learn realistic painting and complaining there's no anime waifu shit.

>R loli M I N D jam R
loli jam starts April 1, finishes April 15
post your progress in the thread to cause endless REEE from normie shitposters
upload your game to any filehost and link in the thread
if you get banned we will honor your memory
lolijam friendly irc is #AGDC on rizon.net (irc://rizon.net/AGDC)

Question for all independent devs (devs who develop with nothing but programming languages):

What language are you using and how are you achieving game development in your language?

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>>172577613
Great it's working.
>>172577771
Practice drawing and learn anatomy other than that i don't know.
>>172578126
I'll post my eye setup in a few minutes.

>>172578503
dumb ircfag

>>172578807
IRCs are fucking cancer.

>>172578687
I'm doing language development in Rust first.

>>172578687
Lua, LÖVE
http://www.love2d.org/forums/

>>172578802
>I'll post my eye setup in a few minutes
Thank you, hopefully it'll help me get out of my rut

>>172568972
no

How do I make up an exciting story/plot with unforeseeable rememberable plot twists?

I allways sucked majorly at writing assays and stories in school.

Is it something that is learnable or is it a talent or intuition you just got to be born with?

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i know you guys hated my pistol but even you got say
pretty good hum?

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finally went back to fix the animation by masking it instead of a lazy rotate

>>172579784
Writing can be practiced like anything else. What you're asking is on par with "how do I do one of the most difficult things in [field]".

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>>172579896

and there's only one more element to nail down for the 2nd map, the stained glass.

unsurprisingly it hasn't been easy to land on a style that accurately conveys stained glass windows. the artist did the topmost one with lazy photoshop filters, which doesn't read well, so I went and did programmer art of the left one to see if manual shard creation was better.

i know fuck-all about shapes and contours though, so it's pretty ugly, but perhaps the method might work if done by an actual artist

>>172579784

I'd recommend... not having plot twists.

Plot twists are usually pretty divisive. They're either loved or hated. If your plot twist is obvious and predictable, it has no impact. If it's not obvious, it can feel totally irrelevant and out of left field (like Braid, for instance).

The biggest driving force in any story will always be characters. Likeable and enjoyable characters will drive a story.

Why do you remember Star Wars? It's the characters. The actual "plot" of Star Wars is basic as heck. You remember Luke, you remember Han Solo.

Start with the characters. Always. Then build the story around them.

>he fell for the women will make you happy meme

>>172579784
What you lack in intuition and natural judgement for """""""""""good""""""""""""""" writing, you can definitely fill with lots of reading and consuming other media to find your place/style.
Like anything else, writing is easier when you look at what doesn't work and why.

>>172579784
practice
or focus on something else

Anyone have any experience making games for kids?

What special considerations need to be taken into account?

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>>172580129

last post related to this

when i think of stained glass i usually think of more saturated colors like pic related. do you think i should pursue this level of saturation for this map >>172580129 even though the general color balance is red/grey?

>>172580026

How you learn it?

Just consuming other media like movies/books/games to "get inspired" doesn't do it for me and my story telling imagination or whatever you want to call it hasn't gotten better.

>>172580129
>>and there's only one more element to nail down for the 2nd map
I really hope you dont think minus the stained glass, that the room is in anyway production ready.

It looks like iteration 2-3 out of 10-20

>>172580325
Your fetishes.
Make sure to put your fetishes into your game (in a sfw manner of course) to create a generation of kids with your fetish.


Like for instance, having a male character being turned into a girl and possibly having that character hypnotized to do something evil.

or having vore scenes.

>>172580407
It's like anything man. Write a story.

Then pass it around, get criticism. Take the criticism, rewrite it, or try something new.

It's all about repetition and iteration. In all things.

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Animated new high-guard sprite for testing. Made a build before I animated the low-guard sprite.

The patch notes for this build is now "Enemy now alternates between being a competent boxer and dude posing for a rap video every 180 frames"
I'm not sure if this is the keeper low-guard sprite that I want to use for actual gameplay, but I think I've just found the intro pose for this guy.

>>172580129
hello supermario rpg for snes

Anon... stop stealing

>>172580465
This is how furries came to be.

>>172580407
How often do you try to write, and actually go forward with anything for more than a sentence?

>>172580187

I like plot twists were suddenly you all see everything with a different eye and things that seemed random and unimportant at first suddenly have relevance and it all makes sense.

With plot twist I don't mean "It was all just a dream/simulation lolololol"

>>172580447

thanks for the detailed and helpful post

>>172580606

?

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Why aren't you guys making games in pic relateds genre?

Does anyone having experience with cryengine here?

>>172580465
>make hit game for kids featuring your fetish
>wait 15 years
>start lewd patreon featuring fetish
>profit?

>>172580591
you are practically done your game make the super combo animations!

>>172579784
>unforeseeable plot twists
this is automatically bad writing, plot is like a good game where each previous action has consequences, plot twists are the confluence of these various actions into an event. they are unexpected not because they are unforeseeable but because there were many alternative foreseeable outcomes that viewer expected more or the viewer missed/ignored important clues that related to the outcome.
easily one of the most important aspects of satisfying storytelling is foreshadowing - learn it, live it, love it.

>>172579784
read robert mckee the story, tv tropes wiki and lajos egri dramatic writing and campbell the hero's journey.

>>172580465
>>172580769
I should make my name very prominent so I can fuck them in 10 years.

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>>172571504
How is that pillow shading?

>>172580847
Whoa googum is making sense for a change

>>172580774
I told you already. Just because it LOOKS like I'm at the point where I'm able to do that, that isn't actually the case. The scripting and structures that need to be in place for the other supers isn't there yet. It is not as simple as just make animation put in gaem.

The enemy AI needs work before I can put in more supers purely because those supers require the AI be able to react and respond to them in order for me to script them. Chill yo butt. They're coming, but these things take time.

>>172580706
lighting is wrong
colors are off
The fire pits dont look like fire
your stairs are confusing.
Are they marble, or is that a draping carpet? it looks like melted wax
The room itself isnt interesting and looks drab.

Generally your colors are just flat and need work.

All independent devs who are working in C++, what library/libraries are you using to make a game in C++ only?

>>172580187
This. It's no coincidence that Shamalamadingdong's best film (Signs) lacks his signature twist.

>>172581245

I'll pass that on to the artist, thanks for the response

>>172580847

When I feel like I already know the ending of a game or movie and it plays out pretty much exactly as I thought it would because it was predictable I hate it especially when it is thought to be scary or mysterious.

>>172581271
You only need one of three: SFML,GLFW, SDL.
GLFW now has vulkan as well

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Fact.

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I was getting frustrated with making new player animations so I began working on redesigning most of the GUI, starting with the title screen. Hopefully it ends up looking better than the menu before it. Also doing a bunch of project cleaning/refactoring/reorganizing because a ton of things were very old and served no real purpose anymore.

>>172581460
Well, uh...

what about 2D games? Not necessarily pixel-shit, just anything using sprites. I was asking about recommended libraries. I would just use graphics.h, but I heard it was shit.

>>172579784
The only way you could ever improve on creative writing, is by...reading books. You have to read and expand your mind to different types of stories, if all you have in your mind is other video games to use as resources and inspiration then your game will just be like all other video games stories, aka trash. Read some books m8. And I don't mean YA/50 shades of/stephen king type garbage either.

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>He's an infp
>He thinks he can be a game dev or even get a girlfriend
>He'll probably end up fucking cheap sex bots after failing to make a game.

>>172581340
>Signs

But that's a shit movie and a bad example.

>>172581403
congratulations, you're genre savvy.
this is why genres suck, the creators get incestuous and the outcomes become rote.
at least in storytelling the viewers get sick of it, hardcore gamers demand everything be identical.

>>172581610
Kill yourself.

>>172581567
same answer, and more specific to 2d since none of those are really 3d oriented. Though GLFW is less a game dev library and more a general purpose window + input library.

Box2d is also optional though its better to learn to roll your own physics.

I only know how to make things with just code. I use Love2D a good bit.
How should I go about learning how to use "Actual Engines" like GMS, Unity, or Unreal?

How do I make the "or" sign again? You know these two vertical "I I"s?
or is it just a capital i?

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>>172581853

>>172581853
above the enter key on normal keyboards

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>>172579212
So the upper eye lid is pretty much weighted 100% to the upper eye lid bone and slides inside the head. the eyes themselves are sphere with a flattened iris, a second sphere thats a bit bigger to fake shadows and a tiny cutout for the highlight. (in game i'll just create a special shader for eyes with pupil dilation so no more fucking around with multiple spheres there.)

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>>172581853
Hold shift and press \
Anon how did you forget this?

>>172581576
>shitting on stephen king
i dont think even a /lit/ patrician would approve of this
of course you can learn things from the most prolific pop writer of all time

>>172581853
No space, it's " || ". Don't put space in-between them. Also, the character is on the key above enter.

>>172581853
>he uses a language that doesn't allow you to use `or` as a replacement for `||`

>>172581567
nothing wrong with using gl for 2d games

>>172581696

I am sure you still can come up with something that isn't totaly predictable and doesn't suck, but obviously it get's harder as there is more previous media to come up with something original and new that hasn't been done before.

>>172581974
>>172582120
I don't have this sign anywhere on my keyboard.
>>172582036
This also doesn't work. I make a ? then.

>>172582324
or looks unnatural to me when I used to try it.

>>172582324
What language do you prefer to use? Java? It wouldn't surprise me if you do considering you are nothing but a shitlord "programmer" who really knows nothing.

>>172582490
NVM, found it now. ||

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>>172582524

>>172582074
His writing is shit my man. Only "ok" book he ever made was the green mile.

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>>172581853
>>172582490
>>172582693
engine users in a nutshell

>>172582721
Oh, you use Python. So are you telling me you prefer an extremely underpowered and slow shit language over a greatly overpowered and fast language? You REALLY know nothing.

>>172582812
I'm an artist, stfu. I actually practiced the important part. Enjoy your fugly games.

>>172583040
post art

>>172581236
but but Anon... I have a boner for those supers

>>172580187
>Why do you remember Star Wars? It's the characters.

Are people really that oblivious? Who's retarded enough to think characters is why you remember Star Wars

who here likes bokucube game

>>172581696
gogam how do you know everything?

>>172582812
You are single handedly killing Alex Jones memes. Please, stop posting, anon.

>>172583618
His game looks boring and childish, but I'm sure it will appeal to his target demographic of children.

>>172582485
you missed the point of my post.
it doesnt get harder, the creators creating for genres get lazy or incestuous and end up creating or loving tropes.

>>172583706
it looks like a classic nintendo game to me

>>172583664
life experience, constant experimentation, paying attention.

>>172583967
Yes, nintendo games are aimed at children.

>>172584120
I disagree Zelda was aimed for everyone and it is one of the best nintendo games

>>172583967
You can actually see the player character in Nintendo games though.

>>172584270
I don't understand his camera view for the game it needs a better view

>>172584231
No it was not. It was rated E for Everyone, which is done for children. Might as well start saying pokemon games weren't aimed towards children as well. There is nothing wrong with you playing childrens games, there is no need to call it something else to feel more mature.

>>172584231
if you end up having a cereal you're automatically a children's character

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>>172582025
I love you, thank you

https://www.meetup.com/es/unity_user_group_cali/

>>172584898
Trying too hard.

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Is game feel real?

Why do all of the beginner tutorials for unity use force to move the player around? Wouldn't it be easier for beginners to have a system of "press button, move at predetermined speed in button direction, stop when button is released"?

>>172585160
as real as feels

>>172578126
>>172579212

post your shit, faggot

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>>172585160
Absolutely not. While I'm playing games, I feel nothing.

>>172585160
Games I'm good at feel good. Games I'm bad at feel bad.

>>172584654
>there is no need to call it something else to feel more mature
this, you don't need to say that games that are made for everyone are children's games just so you can feel more mature with mhu sex and violence M for Me and my grownup friends

>>172585642
What dou you mean?

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So much to draw desu

>>172585160
This is one of those things that's so vaguely defined that people can choose to define it as something that isn't real.

How common are bit flip bugs?
Cosmic rays are my only explanation to retarded bugs that only happen once.

>>172585885
Rated m for mature games are still played by children quite often. Are they the target demographic? No.

>>172586065
A billion times less common if you're running on a computer with ECC RAM like a sensible person.

>>172586065
That's not what's happening. You just missed an edge case somewhere.

>>172585160
Yes, obviously. It's what makes an okay game into a fun game.
However the type of game feel can change depending on the game and its genre. Dwarf Fortress has different game feel from Overwatch, but they both have it.

what rts game has the most comfy camera controls
whats the best layout for a top down game

>>172586065
Your bits are voltagefluid, don't assume their gender.

>>172586137
>Are they the target demographic?

Most of the time, yeah.

Has anyone ever made a 3D game by themselves?

>>172586839
>being this embarrased that he plays childrens games
Come on now.

Does anyone know how to make a game with C++ only without any custom libraries or plugins, just the original language? Is it possible?

>>172586849
banished

>>172587028
Sure, just write inline assembly.

how make own programming language

>>172586137
without getting in to a discussion about whether or not games like GTA is aimed at children, you seem to be under the impression that if you make a E rated game that automatically means that the target demographic is children, but is not.
If I make a puzzle game that is just a collection of Mensa tests, it would probably be rated E, and by your logic that means that my target demographic is children, but that's retarded.

>>172587028
Raw win 32 is rough.
Youll change your mind really quick once you see the clusteurfuck that are the window handle args.

>>172587028
you'd be replicating the functionality of whatever graphics library you're replacing.

>>172587183
look up lexical analysis.

>>172587212
I just don't feel like installing and learning a brand new fucking library of operators.

>>172587207
I'll power through it or quit. If I used graphics.h, I would power through it or quit. It won't change a thing.

>>172587198
Yes it is, you should put some lolis as rewards for finishing the tests and then it will be a game for adults.

What the fuck is this graphics.h meme that's popped up in the last couple of days?

>>172587369
but it won't be crossplatform anon

seriously, just like get sfml or sdl they are dead simple

>>172586849
Monster girl island

>>172587369
>It won't change a thing.
I understand the purist mentality. But a sane middle-ground is to use already available purpose-specific libraries and wrap around them. Then eventually phase them out.

Or at the very, very least, just please use your own gl/vulkan solution. You REALLY dont want to deal with this:
https://hastebin.com/evaxeruxuz.cpp

>>172587626
I could re-develop it using other OS operators.

>>172587554
It's not a meme, it's a C++ library meant for game development that's commonly used. By a lot of people, I don't understand why it's used though.

>>172587834
You need Win32 or your platform's equivalent to use OpenGL or Vulkan (well, not Vulkan strictly speaking but games aren't headless), but there are libraries like GLFW that wrap it.

>>172587990
Yeah but I've never heard of it before and it keeps getting mentioned.

>>172587369
>>172587028
Possible, sure. Most programmers first games are command line based. But the moment you start using a platforms API, you're already outside the "original language." Hell, you're arguably outside the original language just using the standard.

There is no reason to not use a library that simplifies that shit. C++ was build for libraries. And it will take much less time to learn something like SFML than a bunch of lower level, platform specific programming.

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Got putting down rocks working a bit smoother. The red square here is the one the player is mostly in. The blue square is the one the rock is going to be set in. If the player is slightly in the blue square, they get moved out of it in the time it takes to set the rock down.

Also you can throw rocks too.

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>>172585827
My bad. The eyes I currently have are just spheres, and the lids aren't shaped towards them or anything, which I suppose I need to do. Also need to extrude out some eyebrows

>>172587834
>https://hastebin.com/evaxeruxuz.cpp
If you're gonna try to scare him off win32 at least post something intimidating.

Hell everything is well documented on MSDN so it's not even that bad to use.

>>172588161
this
first time I saw winapi code I though that it was c++ dialect of some sort

Is it true you can develop the "artists eye" and can draw well after that?

Why don't you devs use custom functions in your C++? I never seen anyone use them here and it pisses me off.

#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

int CustomFunction();

int main(){
CustomFunction();
return 0;
}

int CustomFunction(){
cout<<"This is a custom function, execute this code and it'll work just like the main function."<<endl;
return 0;
}

>>172588108
Well my point was if hes really going ahead with it, that windowing be the one thing he not do completely raw.
The rest of win32 is actually not that bad. Input specifically in terms of KBM, was more straight forward than most libraries.

>>172588354
what level of shitposting are you on man

If a centaur gets pregnant where is the baby?

>>172588340
Not gamedev
>>>/ic/

>>172588686
The beautiful thing about gamedev is that it is the art that incorporates all aspects of life, all disciplines. Every topic is on topic here.

>>172588636
Human half on human womb horse half in horse womb

>>172588636
where is the vag?

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THREADLY REMINDER BEFORE I HIT THE SACK
https://itch.io/jam/rush-hour-jam

>>172588636
Depends on which vagina was used.

>>172588470
The real problem I have with Win32 UI is the split between windows and window classes and the whole window procedure thing. The rest of Win32, at least the game related stuff, isn't too bad. DirectX other than XInput is really bad, though, it's COM shit.

>>172588824
horse pussy.png.jpg

>>172588870
Is human vag in front normal? It looks super weird on centaurs in particular

>>172588512
Not shitposting, I am legitimately concerned about your programming habits.

>>172588967
>Is human vag in front normal?
no

>>172589083
the perceived shitpost is that you think anyone would ever code entirely in main

>>172588801
Yeah, right, if you actually believe that why don't you post something completely offtopic and let the mods decide if they agree with your definition of gamedev

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Is there a guide on how to translate points in 2D space as if they existed in 3D? I'm trying to do a spin animation like pic related, but obviously my game is in 2D.

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>>172588354

>>172589083
Anon are you drunk.

>>172589284
Literally just change the sprite's width.

>>172589284
paper Maio was 2d m8

>>172589509
>>172589284
change it based on a sine or cosine funtion to get the look right. assuming your engine displays a sprite multiplied by -width as flipped:

width = sin(time);

this doesnt get the perspective effect, but its probably close enough.

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>>172589206
>>172589430
>THINK that anyone would ever code entirely in main
I don't think, I know. I have seen some people here post their code, and it's literally ALL in main. You haven't seen the spaghetti code I have seen from these threads.

>>172589284
Transform* I mean.

>>172589509
That works for rotating around the y axis, but not transformation in general. I have to also take into account scaling/rotation of other sprites that I want to rotate with the main sprite.

>>172589781
Again, works as a temporary solution, but it's not what I'm looking for. You really don't need sine or cosine, though, just a scalar from 1 to -1, which is easy to get with arithmetic.

I'm trying to do animal crossing style village generation in unity. A lot of the tutorials I find seem to be dealing with generating a bunch of game object which I'm concerned will cause performance problems later on down the line.

Am I on the right track in thinking that I can find some way to combine these separate objects into one village map object once the shape of the village is made (considering it wont really be changing)? Or am I over-complicating it/looking at it the wrong way?

If anybody could shoot some relevant reading or info about what I should be looking at I'd be really appreciative.

>>172589991
Most of the time those are just code samples.
No one acutally does everything in main.

>>172589991
Can you link to a game made entirely on main you've seen posted here?

>>172590150
Some pointers: Mesh.Combine() can be used for all your trees and other props to reduce draw calls and GameObjects in the scene. 1000 was the upper limit of gameobjects a few years back. You can get better with newer hardware but 1000 is a good upper target to shoot for.

Is there an official discord for /agdg/?

>>172590562
yes.

>>172590246
No, they posted their REAL code, saying "Here's how I did this." with a screenshot of the file they are currently using for their game. I have seen some serious spaghetti code.

>>172590445
It was made in main, do you think they would get to finish it?

>>172590562
no.

>>172590541
Thanks for that. It's good to have some solid numbers for what I should be aiming for.

why don't you know C++, /agdg/?

this isn't hard:

#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

int main(){
int Five = 0;

if(int Five != 10){
cout<<Five<<endl;
Five++;
}
else{
cout<<"we are done counting up"<<endl;
}
}

>>172590896
seriously tho senpai
how high are you right now?

>>172590687
>>172590740
Which one is it?
If there is one, can you post a link?

>>172590949
who are you confusing me for

>>172590949
hes been doing this gimmick for atleast a week now.

>>172590890
if you want some working code for mesh combine i can post it.

>>172591006
come by, say hi!
https://discord.gg/fWVaC

>>172590698
Are you saying you can't finish a game completely inside main?

>>172591159
Sarcasm is not needed, anon. I legitimately wanted to die after seeing these anons' code.

>>172591271
Link to a single one of those posts or you're bullshitting

>>172588686
Art is like 40% of gamedev

>>172591043
>>172591106
>samefagging this hard

>>172591384
Who the fuck saves these posts? Why would I have them?

>>172591147
That would be great if you could. Thank you.

>>172590896
Oh yeah? If that's so easy then write a class with a static method and a pointer that points to it.

>>172591393
But discussing art is 0% gamedev

>>172591447
>>>172591043
>>>172591106(You)
nah

>>172591393
much more than 40%

>>172591447
>Why would I have them?
To give any semblance of credibility to your statements but it seems you can't

>>172591452
I can post it as is with a scene or try to clean it up for you. What I was doing was a bit more complicated than a bare example.

>>172591523
Learning how to draw to make better game-art is game-dev. You aren't in charge here.

>>172591816
No, this can't be happening!

>>172591723
Don't go too out of your way for me anon. Just do what's most convenient to you and it will be a huge help either way.

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is this acceptable art for a videogame?

>>172591816
No it's literally not gamedev. You could argue it's related to gamedev but outright saying it's in fact gamedev is simply incorrect

redpill me on scenegraphs

>>172592069
Would you pay actual, real world money for something that looks like that?
Hold your game to the same standard you would hold any other.

>>172591454
Okay:

#include <iostream>

using namespace std;

public class YourRequest{
static int someNumber = 6;
}

int main(){
string someNumberString = &someNumber;
cout<<someNumberString<<endl;
return 0;
}

>>172590896
Fuck to your mother I don't understand this. Five is 0. If Five is not equal to 10, print Five? But if it is equal to 10, print we are done counting up? Nothing is so intimidating as this family of languages.

>>172592105
By your logic programming isn't gamedev either.

>>172592069
? reimu patchouli?
marisa sakuya hong?
remilia ? ?

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>>172576312
>Coder

>>172592308
No, it basically prints the current value to the screen AND THEN ADDS TO IT BY ONE, SEE "Five++"? That's incrementation. It then checks to see if Five = 10 now, if it doesn't, it prints the new value and increments it again. It does this until it is 10, which afterward it stops counting up and prints "we are done".

>>172592242
Memory locality is shit
Learn data-oriented design and use an SOA ECS if you want your game to be turbofast

>>172592069
What am I looking at, anon?

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One step forward, two steps back, it seems. I'm starting to see why separated limbs were the go-to during some of the PSX's life - it's tough to get good looking deforms on low-poly models, especially with my limited knowledge of topology.

Back to Blender I suppose

>>172592249
1. That's not what I asked for.
2. That's not valid C++.

>>172592518
Is this a Resident Evil clone?
>>172592449
Danke, I bailed on C++ after watching one vid desu. Nothing uses Java or Python

>>172592398
Wrong again

>>172592461
You can implement scene graphs in a cache-friendly way. All you do is have all the nodes in an array, where children come after their parents. You then iterate through the array once to do all your transformations, and the children can depend on their transformed parents since you're guaranteed to have processed them already.

>>172592249
Oh, yeah? If that's so easy write a videogame using templates

>>172592518
Are you snapping your worldspace position? The movement is super jerky.

>>172592745
Why the fuck would I want to do that?

>tfw you realize anything that Spine or Spriter can do can be done in blender for free

is there anything that can stop blender?

>>172592629
Watch Derek Banas's C++ video. It's how I learned, he explains everything one at a time and slowly, not quickly and all at once.

>>172592242
Pretty good, just don't go overboard with the hierarchical stuff. You can express a relationship between two objects without making one a parent of the other.

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>>172592629
A 3D version of my 2D game. Which was a RE/SH clone. So yes.

>>172592756
More than likely due to the rounding of vertex positions

>>172593113
Oh snap. Where's my nudey lumberjack gaem?

>>172592069
i remember when you made these
they weren't good then, they aren't good now

>>172593113
wait, what
you're dropping 2d silent hill?

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Been debating with myself for the past couple of days over it but it looks like I am actually going to do it. Adding third (last) playable moth with her own shot type and mechanics (for fun and variety). It works out because now I have a Novice, Intermediate and Advanced character selection. Now to actually work on her mechanics and animations.

Since she is the boss of the intro stage though I will need to give her a different one to fight and her story will have a different tone to it than Lore and Sana

Does C++ work well with blueprints?
Or is it better to do everything using one method?

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>>172593489
I like your girls anon.
Become the next zun so we get lots of lewd fanart.

>>172593668
You made me smile anon, thank you!

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>>172593268
Still working on it. I've been fumbling around with different crafting systems to get one that works nicely.

>>172593482
I'm trying it out in 3D instead of 2D. 2D spriting takes far longer than 3D animation would, since I have to animate things from so many angles.
If I can't get 3D to feel right I'll go back to 2D, but since it was so poorly received on Demo Day it's tough to want to keep working on the 2D version.

>>172590562
Unfortunately.

>>172593860
>it was so poorly received on Demo Day
what
it's my favorite dd game
who the fuck received this poorly?

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who here procrastinates by making shitty 3D art?

>>172593860
>but since it was so poorly received on Demo Day it's tough to want to keep working on the 2D version.
What an awful attitude.

dd is not 1.0 release day. People really need to stop taking it so seriously.

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>>172594294
I do

I don't see the appeal of making a top down 2D game that is a poor approximation of a 3D first-person or over-the-shoulder game.

>>172593860
Who shit on it? Not that I don't prefer the ps1 aesthetic.

Have any of you ever adapted A* to work with characters that take up more than one tile? I'm working on a roguelike with big bosses and need to take the next step towards making them take up the space they're supposed to.

>>172592060
Hey, it took a while to get the package exported. So I'm combining meshes in a way that completely avoids instantiating a new GameObject for each mesh that you want to combine, since I needed to create thousands of little meshes right when the game started. In the unity manual there is a reference for the easier way, which will automatically create a CombineInstance from your GameObject.

https://my.mixtape.moe/dgzkdg.unitypackage

Feel free to ask more questions about the code. If you're on discord dm me at snek#9588

>>172594487
How about dropping a (You) bitchniqqa

>>172594042
>>172594418
>>172594491

I would estimate that about 90% of the feedback I received was pretty negative, and not just about things like bugs or difficulty that I could tweak, but about the gameplay itself not being fun or interesting, and a heap of people complaining about the elements that make the game what it is - inventory management, exploration, puzzles, etc.

It's not my first rodeo with Demo Day. Dungeon Break was criticized heavily but about things I could fix - balancing, pacing, etc. - but not many people who disliked the concept itself and the core gameplay.

Goes to show why CAPCOM switched to more action-oriented games. That being said, I'm not giving up on it. I'm pretty happy with the atmosphere, storyline, and artwork myself, but clearly I needed to take a step back and rethink the gameplay. Lacking motivation isn't the same as trashing the project. I think that it could be successful and just as atmospheric as a 3D game, and a game with slower paced gameplay and simpler combat would give me an opportunity to learn Unity better.

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The 3D animations are pretty stiff, but you probably know that. I could go for a SH clone with the proper aesthetic, so good luck. Make it ebin

>>172594697
Thanks dude, you're a godsend. I really appreciate it. I'll probably hit you up once I make some time to really rake through it and try to understand it.

>>172568972
I consider playing similar games for research to be basically on the same level as planning-- important, but not necessarily essential, and not necessarily the most productive use of my time (of course sometimes those are very productive and sometimes they're very important, but not always)

>>172594784
Would you like me to give your demo a run anon? If you yourself believe in a concept there's usually a valid reason for that, even if what you've made isn't there yet.

>>172592518

What's the screen resolution?

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Opinions

In Unity, my enemies somehow can shoot themselves. I don't know how to make this stop.

>>172568972
No. But while playing games I do take notes on mechanics & features I find well done or otherwise interesting. As well as list issues the game has (Not bugs mind you, issues with gameplay, ui etc) and potential improvements.

>>172597110 are you doing it with triggers or collisions (physics)? Use layermasks to have enemies attacks only affect players and vice versa

>>172596892
Feel free anon
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-13/rate/125735

>>172596923
384x216 - the 16:9 equivalent of the PSX's 320x340. Tried 512x288 but it was high enough resolution then that it kinda killed the aesthetic

>>172597110
Have you tried talking to them?

>>172592472
Low resolution touhous

>>172597348
I always make videos and give feedback, so that's kind of why I'm asking. My internet is slow so it takes a long time to upload. But I can post it in the thread sometime later or if you happen to be in the Discord I can let you know.

>>172596979
Looks neat I guess? What am supposed to be commenting on?

>>172597231
>are you doing it with triggers or collisions (physics)
Not sure. I have "is Trigger" checked on the collider if you mean this though.

I figured now out it had something to do with my Health script. I have a script for health and damage, but it is buggy somehow.

Anyone know a good health script perhaps?

Give me a good enemy design for a slasher type horror game.

>>172597939
Hockey mask chainsaw

>>172597732
Whatever you feel about it. If anything makes you cringe or feels bad, I want to know it. It is hard to notice a lot of things by myself

>>172597939
A guy who walks on his hands and holds knives with his feet, and is wearing leggings that look like knives. And he has a chin-strap dildo that he tries to trip you with

What's the best Git client for game devving?

>>172597716
You don't need to go to the trouble of recording a video, especially since I'm attempting to rebuild the game entirely. You can always drop me a message on itch or at jasozz.tumblr.com

I do have discord but I'm on my phone in bed and don't currently have my discord ID handy, unfortunately