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THERE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE WHO MADE SWORD DECKS LMAO

Dragon decks are absolutely fucking retarded now.
They ALWAYS have t6 salamander breath, then they just drop some sort of healing in the form of luci, israfil, miko. Then they just fucking drop Bahamut and clear anything you might have with the absolute retarded fucking thing that is Grimnir.

How the fuck are you supposed to beat that kind of removal?

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The gobbos are going to war!

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>garbage pulls in packs
>going first for 16 games in a row now
>both Aegises consistently in the bottom 5 cards of my deck
>only get matched against the same 2 classes over and over again
I get it Cygames you want me to uninstall and never come back.

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3rd for aggro princess

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Stop Elf Genocide!

Can someone explain why Forest is so shit? Feels like it got some really good cards.

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>Grimnir with dragonclaw

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what do i need to change?

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How do i get a Cynthia gf?

>>172558440
Frog sword is very cheap and very fun, it barely costs 1000 vials.

>>172558483
Just turn 5 lethal them

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>you lived long enough to see Themis powercreeped into a balanced card

>>172558564
Is it effective or just cheap and fun?

>>172558483
You kill them before they get to play any big removal or those fat heals.

Has anybody done anything fun with the new earthrite cards yet?

>>172558564
post dick

Someone give me a midrange shadow deck. My aggro seems iffy against it.

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I thought Test of strength wasn't supposed to count Aegis as a legal target.

Did cygames change their minds or is this a bug?

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What should this newfriend focus on in terms of classes or decks? Blood craft?

>>172558564
>tfw i always get matched with haven who ALWAYS has at least 2 themis to fuck my frogs up

Why is Elana so fucking hard to draw?

>>172558643
FUCKING HOW? They have shitload of removal and heals.

Haven needs new boardclear, Themis is not enough.
Maybe something that banishes under 3 or 4 hp

Do we have any idea of what's busted and what's a flop?

I got shit pulls and don't want to waste my vials on a meme.

>>172558649
Yes, I died plenty to turn 5 lethals, tribunals, elana otks and other fun stuff.

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>>172558483
I don't know, I just stopped playing ranked and wait for people to think up some anti dragon deck

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>this time it's actually real

How to counter durandal.
This card shutdown control deck.

>>172558540
Control archetypes can take a while to find the right setup, especially when it hasn't existed before for that craft
Roach got no support again, which hurts, and a lot of the other builds were either weak or memes, like Rose Queen, along with one of the legos being Anamoly

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Sure wish I had this many vials

>>172558659
test of strength affects the player not the creatures

>>172558659
Works as intended. The effect works on the opponent not aegis itself. It forces the players to attack a monster if there is one on the field. It's the same reason why Aegis cannot ignore wards.

>tfw just got memed by aegis in T2

>>172558502
more like t2 shadow princess

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a true prophet he was

>>172558781
Just lightning breath it

>huurr shadow is good now
>get absolutely destroyed by dragon because of all the removal for your shitty 1/1 skeletons
>auto lose to snakes
>Haven is still haven
>of course that motherfucking piece of shit Hector never comes out when you CAN actually win

I feel like the only fucking way you'll stand a chance is Tyrant deck, but did we get a tutor like all other classes? Of course fucking not.

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>>172558290
Guys GUYS

WHAT IF

IF

Beast dominator tamed the sneks?

>>172558659
It forces your dudes to ram themselves into anything on their side of the board, it's that simple. All Aegis gets to do is ignore the "have to murder dudes instead of going face" part.

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HOLY BOW!

>>172558550
Be Liza.

>>172558635
As long as mutagenic, themis, tribunal, revelation etc. does not fuck you up, then yes it is very effective.

>>172558102
>>172558251
I've dropped like 2000 points since the expansion hit - and I've seen some people report success with the same old Forest decks but nothing I've got is really working in AA0.

Guardian Sun isn't really lifting; pretty much anything I've got Haven-wise loses to Aegis and the new Dragon decks, actually. Suggestions? Do I just craft Aegis and get it over with?

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ok I will ask again I have 4000 vials and I need a godd legendary that work whit most decks also I already heve those Im new at the game I only log for free shit have mercy

>>172558251
>Pretty sure a craft that got nothing but sidegrades and trash and was already on the decline will be able to compete with all this insane powercreep
lol

Literally the only chance forest has is if someone pulls some kind of tempo list out of their ass that can compete early while simultaneously producing fairies so that rabbit and beetle can carry you.

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I think Anomaly might not be working as intended and bugged if the english text is 100% accurate. Because technically it should deal 4 damage until the enemy dies if there's a durandal in play but he doesn't.
Can someone who plays the nip version confirm the
>UNTIL their defense drops to 0
part. It might be a mistranslation.

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>>172558290
T2 tourney (new mode) in around 3 hours
Single elimination.
Signup: http://challonge.com/en/tournaments/signup/n0zH5XBSAr
Updated the description since the stream is pretty much confirmed.
Reminder to friend request the streamer if you still haven't.

Weekend tourney is on friday. Challonge soon~

31807
I need no concede victory for achievement.

How many Aegis should I run? Is 2 good? Also what other legendaries go well with it? I'll try and make up shit for the rest of the deck myself and experiment.

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>>172558290
FUCKIN MISSION 7 FOR RUNECRAFT IS FUCKIN BULLSHIT, SHADE ARISA FUCKIN CHEATS I SWEAR TO GOD. HOW DO I BEAT THIS BITCH!?

>>172558949
It's just the shitty English translations. The damage is dealt in a single hit like Astaroth's Reckoning and Azazel.

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Send help

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>/svg/ trying out retarded decks with 0 synergy
>gets absolutely destroyed by competent people
>WTF CYGAMES EVERYTHING IS BROKEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Just wait for the netdeckers to tell you what to do, as always.

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I'm actually struggling to get a single win as forest now.
How did it come to this.
>here's some sustain cards for control play
> and here's your 8/8 do nothing concede wincon

What pack T2 gives you? Standart or ToG?

>>172558930

I am actually thinking about a list like this. Cutting AE and putting in Pixie Mischief to get more tempo.

>>172558984
I'm doing pretty decent with just 2. I have three but took one out since I wanted more early wards and removal. I might consider putting it back in if the number of ramp dragons increase.

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>>172558635
Pic related is when dicks go well and they have no way of removing your frog.
You can also easily clear any summoned sneks or taunt via cyclones

>>172558983
No wait, victory or not doesn't matter.

>>172558872
>snek
>control

???

>>172558921
Bahamut or Prince are your only options for something that will go into a lot of decks.

>>172558706
With an aggro deck?
They run barely any wards, if you play shadow you either kill them on turn 6, or assemble parts for your 21 damage combo and try to OTK them.
In case you don't know, you deal 21 damage from phantom howl summoning 5 ghosts (5 damage), 3x Mimi (6 damage), 3x Coco (6 damage) and an evo point (2 damage).

>>172559104
Standard.

Don't even waste time with that shit.

>>172559067
Cyclone
I currently have 20 winstreak as forestcraft.

>>172559067
Have you tried wolf?

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>everyone can banish everything now

so is shadow the new dragon? a BIG FAT FUCKING JOKE?

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Kinda new to Earth Rite here, any improvement can i make to my agrro rune?

>>172559049
Except I'm playing my old decks, I don't even have vials or cards to make new ones.
The problem is that many old decks have essentially been killed by the newer decks, we have no way to counter them effectively.

Really feeling the p2w aspect right about now

>>172559223
OY VEY

Aggro bats is officially dead.

RIP Vampycraft, we had fun together.

>>172559047
>seraph and aegis in the same deck
You can't do this anon
That's forbidden

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>>172558290
https://youtu.be/qnJJ2fojawE?t=3m3s

>shadow is dead waaah waaaah
>turned out to be the strongest aggressive deck

Never ever listen to svg babies.

>>172559324
>Aggro is officially dead
There, I fixed it for you.

>>172559157
Nobody is playing Control Blood yet.

I think the snek deck is actually the worst deck Blood has this expansion. Aggro, Mid/Tempo, Mary combo, and Control are all better than Serpent.

>>172559223
aggro shadow my friend, it still is the most viable shadow deck

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Whats vg's opinion on my snek deck.

>>172558670
If this is your first account and you got these from packs just now, you're better off re-rolling. You didn't really get anything oriented towards a specific class so you're better off just going for packs again in hopes of getting like 2 main Legendaries for a specific class like Sword/Blood/Shadow, Forest is a meme and the other 3 classes require you to have vials/gold/money to spend.

>>172559369
Except it loses to dragon, and snakes, and sometimes haven.

>>172559324
Just Razory Claw the Grimnir

>>172559193
post rank and list please I'm desperate too

>>172559223
You fucking kikes got a literal T1 deck and still whine. Shoo.

>>172559330
More than forbidden, it's enough bricks to build a castle.

>>172559295
Play DShift and farm points from the new meme decks.

>>172558921
>need a good legendary that work whit most decks

Most of the good neutral legendaries (Luci/Israfil/Baha/Odin) only really have homes in Ramp dragon and other expensive control decks.

If this were 2 days ago I would have told you to vial your Gabriel, golem, and fafnir and craft 2x Albert to make midrange sword but with the new TotG meta you're better off waiting until things settle down a bit before you decide to use any vials.

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Control Sword is really fun desu, Roland with Fangblade is amazing

Now I just need Gawain

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>>172559223
>so is shadow the new dragon? a BIG FAT FUCKING JOKE?
Yes, except it isn't

>>172559047
Drop Seraph and the countdown reductions and go pure Aegis, or drop Aegis and go pure Seraph

>>172558758
This

I'm staying the fuck away from ranked until a cure for this dragon cancer is found

>>172559380
There's still Aggro Shadow.

And very soon "Midrange" Sword will come back, stronger.

>>172559223

ANNUDAH SHOAH

When you got a great boost to your aggro with gay skeleton and """"midrange"""" with Comrade Eachtar. Great joke.

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>Forest literally gets Albert 2.0 - Unga Bungaloo
>Still can't compete with Cygames' pet craft, Blood

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>>172559138
Post deck m8, I want to have fat frogs too.

>>172559067
Just play Wolfbolt. It's actually legit and way easier to play now that we have more chip damage and sustain

What's the new shadow deck everyone is using now? My homebrew isn't faring well against those.

>>172559606
>Albert 2.0

Shit, did I miss something?

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You pushed him too far.

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>>172559030
Seriously, can someone help me please? any advice at all? I've tried everything, default deck, custom deck, everything. Fuckin Rose Gardener always get rid of my Ward cards, She always Evolves Okami as soon as i get something big, then she plays that card that buffs all the fairies which fuckin sucks because even if i get rid of all the fairies on the field she has a hand full of them because of the fuckin card that fanfares 3 fairies into you hard and the fuckin water fairy, i can't take this shit!

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>>172559223
>inb4 AA

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Hey meester
I AM MAD CYCLONE

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>>172559729
I mean, it's just the most hyped card of the expansion.

>>172559118
I've been trying a completely bounceless aggroish forest but the fact is that unless you godhand or your opponent bricks forest isn't capable of establishing an unfair lead by the time your opponent gets to start spamming boardclear. Also your board of 1/1s can't outdamage blood or dragon healing until that point.

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Fucking stop.

>>172559227
Why the fuck aggro on rune?

>>172559729
10pp jungle bungas hitting 8 face, 10 with evolve
Or a 5pp 4/5 ward that literally yells like a monkey

>>172559776
Try aggro blood.

>>172559831

>Literally no one use that

It is too slow when you face control and stats too low when you face aggro.

>>172559831
>most hyped
Literally no one ever talked about this

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>>172558596
It was never broken you retard

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38073
Need non concede private matches
Go first = attacking
Go second = passing
Name = Scarth
14/20

>>172558290
BUFF NEVER EVER
BD LEADER NEVER EVER
EVEN SOUL DEALER IS PLAYABLE NOW
WHAT THE FUCK CYGAMES?

>>172559324
Except now you can play blood moon storm featuring sneks, soul dominator, dark aji, dark general, and alucord

>>172559729
George of the Jungle

>>172559778
AA is more impressive than Masters.

A large portion of Masters players are people who are only okay at card games that got in early while everyone else was fucking retarded.

Getting into AA in the world of Daria and Roach is a much bigger accomplishment.

>>172559849
What do you expect when Dragon now has more heals and more board clears than fucking HAVEN.

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I'm currently building a combo Forest build. The only legendary I have is White Wolf, though I'm not sure when I should be using it. What does it synergise well with, or should I just turn it into dust?

>>172559445
How? perfect curve dragon can't even deal with sticky last word followers. I've no problem against both blood and dragon with aggro Necro.
The only thing I have trouble with is forest, because May and ancient elf still can create a better early game tempo.

>>172559849
>reee stop playing the crafts that got the shiniest toys

>>172559983
>justifying your inability to get to masters
lel

>>172558910
I just hit an 11 game win streak with a slightly modified Daria deck. I'm in AA0 as well.

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>All these fucking heals and AoEs on Dragon attached to giant 10/10 bodies

>mfw I no longer feel guilty for playing Roach

Thank you for shedding the last of my naivete.

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Fucking finally.
I literally played like 11 hours in a row today climbing 3000 points.
So called "midrange" Hector is really starting to show it's weakness, anyone has an aggro variant or something?

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REMOVE SNEK

>>172559820
IT'S SO COOOOOOL

>>172559418
The issue is that I'm playing this through steam and am really reluctant to dick around with emulator.
Is forest really that bad? Elves are my fetish.

>>172560017
>how

Turn 3 grimnir into Rahab into miko into salamander breath into Saha/Irasfil into Baha.

>>172559939
People did say that it was literally a better Genesis and that Cygames hated Dragon.

>>172559837
>bounceless

Nature's guidance is always needed for draw, pixie mischief is to reduce the enemy's tempo. I think both are important. I also added in archer to deal with aggros. EPM is really important and drawing her early (and get second) really boost my chance of winning. I always keep her in my starting hand if I go second.

Is Minthe worth crafting?

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>>172559954
Thanks Isabelle
15/20
38073

>>172559998
Silver Bolt

Can I get Haven list?

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This is what you get for making fun of Rowen so much

Can anyone give me a good Wolfbolt deck?

>>172560227
Just themis it bro

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Why did they add so much board clear and heal effects. Haven and Dragoncraft are the only classes that can compete in playing control now, and midrange decks are dead.

>>172559939
Nice revisionism. The hype did fall off, but there sure as hell was a lot of it when he was first revealed.

>>172560298
I would wait at least a week or two before crafting anything.

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>>172559831
>mfw I'm using this

>mfw it's actually good

I wouldn't spend vials on it (even though I did, for all three) but it saved my ass. Giant body, can evolve and trade with the giant bodies that even Dragon throws down in the midgame, the enhance is just icing on the cake.

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Black Mask and based Z-man putting in some real fucking work.

>>172560298
I have seen no one talk about Minthe and everyone seems to be focusing on Prince Catacomb and Eachtar. So I would wait if I were you.

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>>172560298

I say no.

Go with spooky sage commander+otohime man, except for shadowcraft.

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Has anyone tried a Elana deck with Aegis and Isafril?

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I-I made some OC

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>>172560124
on a 14 winstreak in AA with this

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>>172559632
Here is my deck anon, but keep in mind that it is no means streamlined and you should improve it if you can.
I pretty much just copied the deck of a master swordcraft adept I battled against, but of course I didn't get to see all of his cards, so I filled the rest with my imagination and own ideas.

Also don't use Rogue's creed with frog, it is terrible because Rogue's creed's effect activates before Frog goes into stealth, meaning he does not gain a buff from it unless you wait for him to be stealthed and not attack with him. That is obviously counter productive, which is why front lines is better for Frog.

>>172560248
>Saha/Irasfil
Nobody runs these in ramp dragon anymore gramps, get on with the times.

>dragon plays cards that cost more vials than the entirety of my deck every turn

nice f2p game you got here

>>172560227
>Turn 6
>:::thinkin:::

>>172560276
Pixie Mischief is unreliable RNG garbage; it never comes through for me and I've stop using it in my forest decks since long ago

>>172560418
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/jungle%20warden/page/1/
whoa.........
like a whole 5 posts saying jungle warden is good.......?
is this the power of petclass forest...................

Are any of the new cards good for Ungabats?
Trying to figure out if Airjammer or Goblin Princess could work

>>172560487
10/10. Shadow gets another amazing silver.

>>172560487
i like it

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>>172560310
Thanks Elf lady
16/20
38073

>>172560489
3 orthrus seems better desu

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>>172560487

>Mummy in the background, off to the side

Nice detail.

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>>172558903
wtf I love Frogs now

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>>172560487
Nice, saved.

>>172560606
Turn 5 Baphomet into Turn 6 Temptress now is a thing for ungabats.

>>172560546
Then why was I kept getting rekt by those sluts climbing through AA3 today?

>>172560474
Yes everyone

>>172560489
Demonic Strike is the clunkiest card in the game, I cant stand playing it anymore.

>>172559849
No. I like the Le invincible man of strenght testing and You cant stop dragons roar after being ignored for so long.

>>172560605
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/jungle%20albert/
Have some more.

>>172560247
It's not necessarily that Forest has bad cards, it's just that powercreep exists and a lot of other decks benefited from the new expansion, especially dragon, which has access to 20 cards that practically heal them for free now.

>>172560732
How good is it, is it better than just running that pure aegis deck with 3 odins and 3 aegis?

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>>172560450

First time ever seeing someone mill themselves.

But seriously, fuck Aegis.

>>172560413
Midrange sword seems to be doing really well at the moment for me

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How the fuck do I get better at arena? Of the 15 games I played, I lost every single one.

Though I started playing three days ago.

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>>172560715
Sahaquiel and Israfil are not sluts, they are pure. And I don't mean "pure" in the meme sense, but as in pure pure.

>>172560489
Not even a couple of hectors?

>>172559967
That's a totally different deck, though.

I miss Yurius pings and Vampire Fortress combos.

>>172559983
>AA is more impressive than Masters.
This is a bad meme.

>>172560413
just kill them before turn 6

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Can I get a concede for my daily?

27720

>>172560904

DE-type midrange sword, or RoB midrange sword?

>>172560830
>less than a full page
whoa....... so this is the power....... of the ~~most hyped~~ ToG card...........

>>172560938
you're either drafting like shit, playing like shit, getting bad drafts, or a combination of all three.

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>>172560227
But sneks are nice. Unless youre an elf, then you get raped.

>>172560938
sword > shadow > dragon

they're always the best for arena, other than that, you need some experience to know what's good and what's not

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>>172560657
Thank you Urias and Vampy
18/20
38073

>>172561028
RoB

>>172560976
I had the fortune to draw just one Dark Jeanne in my 20 packs so I haven't tried him yet

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Why you getting mad at the Swiss, bro?

someone post a frog sword deck, I want in on the memes.

>>172561041
Probably a combination of the first two, guess I just gotta learn to understand the game first.

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Fighting is so crude...
Fighting is so sorrowful...

>>172561030
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/jungle%20bunga/
Not even him
How many more examples do you need before you realize you were wrong

how do you even kill aegis

why does he even have a death quote

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Is there anybody that's FTP that has managed to build a +50k vial deck without vialing their whole collection?

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>>172561028

Thank you skeletal bro

>>172559546
>>172558758
Minthe+deathly tyrant combo/control shadow might be good against dragon. lots of removal for dragons big shit + 15 damage burst. I don't have the cards for it yet though.

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>>172560976
Here's what I'm running, but I have no real experience deck building.

>>172561187
Eidolon also has an attack quote, it's probably for later if they eventually think of a way to remove Aegis.

>>172561187
eidolon has an attack line even though it can't attack

it's just future-proof measures

How do you check what turn it is

>t2
>rune plays 10/10 hulking giant
>can't clear it
>lose
Oh okay.

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I'M COMING FOR YOU DRAGONS

YOU THOUGHT A MERE TUTORABLE 2 DROP WITH STORM WAS HELL FOR YOU BEFORE BECAUSE ANCIENT ELF AND NATURE'S GUIDANCE MADE IT FEEL LIKE I WAS PLAYING 9 OF THEM?

I NOW LITERALLY HAVE 9 STORM FOLLOWERS AND THEY'RE ALL COMING FOR (YOU)

>>172561078
Arena has completely changed. The arena meta is not the same.

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>>172561083
Thanks Erika, 1 more
19/20
38073

>>172561187
They'll probably release a card with an effect that can change the defense of a follower to 0 at some point.

>>172561181
There's 6 pre-ToG release posts here that aren't about League of Legends.
Feel free to try again, or post some more until you realize you were wrong.

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>didn't draw a single legendary in 45 packs
>only deck that is still able to win is D.shift
Please, I don't want to play this for 3 months.

>>172561181

>By how I've seen things performed in ladder and what people posted here (images), I can tell you that the card is too bad to put in a deck. I would just put in Verdant Warden instead of it.

>>172559962
Nothing as spicy as dropping Mary and two Dealers for a OTK. Note that one of the Dealers got his cost reduced by Goatman.

>>172561256
Too many 3 drops not enough 2 drops. Do you really need the extra shadows from Spartoi?

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>>172561072

>another snake in hand even if the elf somehow finds an out that ends with them depleting their hand

It's really like she's back now r-right?

>>172561295
I don't think you can. Effects with turn conditions like Sibyl will glow green if you can activate them though.

Are people really DDOS', disconnecting people in SV somehow? I'm not kidding, this is serious. Just got matched with a BM nip using vampy and after turn 3 I started to disconnect in circles, everytime, always on my turn. Then on turn 9 I almost got kicked out and couldn't end my turn properly. I think that's was his main purpose. My network was working fine, I checked multiple times.
I really believe there people up to something.

>>172561362
Thanks Urias, much appriciated

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I got shit on didn't I?

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Nice rngcraft

>>172561634
Would be good to know how many packs

>>172561553
Her time will come, after Gawain is done with his shit. Have faith and thou shall be blessed.

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Remember when otohime was considered a good turn 6 value play

>>172561168
>"fighting is cruel"

*hits your face for 10, genocides your board

Yeah, sure thing, lady.

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Guys, I just realized, Airjammer is kind of like an airplane right?

So if you put sneks and Airjammers in the same deck....

>>172560976
It's aggro shadow, if you want the red wave experience play mid.

>>172561746
>*hits your face for 10, genocides your board

How is that not cruel? She is just stating the fact.

>>172561712
She's gonna be considered a good turn 5 value play soon.

>>172560546
So what do people run these days?

Arriet doesn't work on Aegis right?

>>172561206
I've been f2p since September playing casually and yes. I only liquefy animated cards and I'm keeping most of my meme legendaries.

How are you supposed to win against fucking dragon? They have heals, ramp, removal. Fucking disgusting

>>172561787
Well, I suppose you're right.

>>172561880
And neither does Power of Protection... I wanted my atomic ward.

>>172561712
The power creep in this game is more insane than any game I've seen. The game has gone from 3/4 that summons 4 1/2s on turn 6 being good to turn 6 5 5/5s

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>>172561924
You don't

>>172560298
Not even ironically.

>>172561924
You play Aegis Haven with test of strength.

>>172561384
I'm not sure what they expect us unlucky people to do now. Not only did we not get much to work with, other people opened enough legos to build better decks. The only way to catch up is to spend money, and opening only two legendaries in 40+ packs isn't a very good incentive to do so

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>conscription and avant blader can tutor the frogs if you remove everything else

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>mfw Elana Aegis is pretty much unstoppable
>heal after heal after ward after heal
>drops Aegis with 20hp

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Almost made it to Clown Town

Can't seem to get these last 400 points
Whenever I get to sub 400 I lose and go back to 600
Been happening for a week now

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>>172561946

>>172561946
>turn 3 do nothing
>turn 5 play a 1/2
>good

Give it a bit and youll see how bad Maelstrom Serpent is.

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Ta-G is super cute! CUTE!

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>>172562084
*Lightning blasts your amulets*

>>172561946
>3 card combo has better tempo than a sigle card
>power creep

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>play blood moon into 4 sneks on t2
>they get cleared
>haven played aegis into 3 5 pp removals
>win only because the retard decided to trade with aegis instead of going face

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can someone give me some decks especially the spooky one

>>172562152
Okay but who gives a fuck other than your lame ass? Go die faggot.

>>172561946
Except Otohime requires zero setup for her effect. Turn 6 snakes requires 3 cards and giving up a ton of tempo.

Learn what powercreep means.

>>172561946
>comparing a card that requires a two card set up, that includes a turn 3 do nothing and a turn 5 2/1, to a card that works by itself.

>>172561924
drop test of stre, drop aegis, they drop baha, you drop second aegis and they concede.

>>172561168
Did this thing completely replace Lucifer in Ramp?

>>172561168
>Let's make a super powerful being and make it hate the purpose it's made for!
~God

>>172562316
No, its in ramp with lucifer.

>>172562224
>Trade with Aegis
Who would be this retarded?

>>172544951
test doesnt work with aegis you mong

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The curve I've been dreaming about since blood moon was announced.

>>172561168
I trough saha said:"Fighting is so cool!" with a dead monotone expression

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>>172562084
Just D-shift bro

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Who here is rebuking tryhards from heaven?

>>172561206
Hullo.

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Why does the Heavenly Aegis have a death voice line, I thought it could never die?

>>172561924
Storm insects at them.
When you run out of insects, storm Tarazan.
Run them over!
GET EM

posted this in the old thread too but

Support Cannon is a little disappointing in how it targets.

So if my testing so far is correct, if you summon two Commanders at once with it on the field, both will trigger it.
However, both also seem to share a target decided at that moment?
So for example, if the opponent has one follower on the field and the effect from the first Commander kills it
Support Cannon won't actually direct the effect from the second Commander at the Leader.

The same thing goes for having multiple Support Cannons out.
If you have two out and play a commander, both shots are going at the same target. It won't be spread between two targets.

I could be wrong here and this may only apply to splits between 1 follower target and then a leader.
It might still work properly if its 2 followers on the field being hit.

>>172561946
Blood keks let me ramp up to 10 by the time they can get their combo down. ;)

>>172562064
There are effective decks you can play with very few legos.
Check out the new shadow list it only uses bronze or silver cards and maybe an eachtar or two will be your most expensive.

>>172562414
What the fuck are you playing

>>172562316
No. This doesn't heal when summoned by Saha.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if people started dropping the neutral engine and went full Storm now that Dragon has heal and non-evolve tempo swings inside their own class.

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Only 10 minutes until I get 3 legendaries from my 50 crystal daily pack.

>>172562394
kek

>>172559490
Post dicklist

>>172562532

snakes on planes

>>172562316
>>172562375
Neither. You have no Sahas or Israfils in Ramp. You might put in 1 Luci.
2 ouroboros, 2/3 sibyls, 2 bahas, 1 olivia, 2/3 fortes

No it replaced Satan

>try to meme with Tyrant
>it absolutely does not work

Why is this card so fucking shit?

>>172558550
Just join up with the forest army as a recruit and say you need some rest after battle. Cynthia always pleasures the hardworking boys in her platoon after a successful battle.

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>>172562438

>people think that test of strength matters to a man with no followers
>people think that they aren't in lethal range anyways when they drop aegis

HEAR THE WIZARD'S ENCHANT

>>172562629
Shut the fuck up, virgin

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I feel that ouroboros is not that good? did i get memed?

>>172562064
Looks like this will be really painful, playing for dailies and hoping that you get enough vails for a deck.
It doesn't help that the new cards are retardedly good.

>>172561924
Dude just Aegis Lmao

>Blood is able to cheat vengeance
>Shadow is able to cheat shadows
>Dragons can get their ramp out even faster

When will forest be able to cheat their card play? Maybe an amulet that makes every card you played count as 2 cards played?

>>172562542
>Get alot of legendaries except the ones i want icons for {Belphegor and sybil)

are you kidding me? i got 4 dark jeanne

FOUR

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>>172562462
I don't think it'd take that much effort to record one anyways, just in case for some god forsaken reason you'll be able to kill him in a future expansion.
Eidolon has attack lines too, despite not being able to attack.

>>172562591
this is bullshit. You have room for almost all of these including Isra, Saha and luci. Only one im not running out of these is the Olivia.

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>>172562438
>opponent plays test and denies me lethal
>odin the test and kill him

>>172562738
Never, because roach exists.

Until Roach is inevitably nerfed/removed from the game, forest will be garbage because their whole identity has to be garbage to keep a single card in check.

It's like not eating food because you have a tapeworm in your stomach.

>>172562738
0 cost fairies have been available since standard. The expansions also included some more 0 cost fairies.

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>>172562738

>Fairy cage was the cheat card

Elf genocide is real. The elf really are being removed.

>>172562462
It can die if you set his defense to 0.

>>172562718
I know as haven I have so many ways to absolutely shit on it its funny when its played against me

>>172562807
Nice dance

>>172558290
Have you taken the hotest meme in town for a spin yet?

https://twitter.com/darkness_mare/status/847348458071572482

Elana Aegis is so busted

>>172562836
Why would you do that while you run more early/mid game and not get fucked by perfect curve aggro decks?

>>172562738
>zero-cost fairies

They've been able to cheat their mechanic since forever.

>>172562868

By the time next expansion hit a 20/1 roach can't even kill the leader anymore. So I think it would be fine with roach and cheating cards played.

>>172559820
>>172560232
ok this made me laugh

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This artwork is such a jarring departure from everything else in this game. Pretty cool, though.

>Grimnir is super chuuni
>dat Orthrus death sound
The VA is so good this expansion

>>172562738
fuck off forestshitter you've been tier 1 literally every expansion

Is Elana or Guardian sun better for Aegis?

I played a jank Elana deck before so I already have three of those.

>>172563010
I thought the same thing, it looks like something straight out of MtG, not very anime at all. It's rad as fuck, though.

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>>172561605
Anyway, if one of you get matched up with this guy, please report in the thread in case you notice something strange. Keep open eyes on this fucker.

Maybe it's time I quit this game.

When a character or class is underperforming, the ideal method of balancing them is by slowly feeding them small buffs until they equalize with the rest of the roster.

What Cygames did was the Blizzard style of balancing: dedicate the entire meta to making that class as powerful as possible and design the game to be have certain classes intentionally be the best and just have them all take turns.

What they did to Dragon is absurd. They jam packed so much power into each of their cards without any thought put into the impact it would cause. Same with Neutralcraft cards, which are just Dragoncraft in disguise.

The only thing that kept cards like Genesis being somewhat manageable were how difficult it was to Ramp efficiently. Now, they just keep adding more and more efficient ramp cards and are tacking on decent stats or cycle or even heal on top of it.

And now more than ever Dragon ramps into unstoppable cards while you're still in your midgame in PP. Commander Laura was an interesting, but highly situational card that rewarded careful combo tools. What Dragon has is basically a turn 9 Albert equivalent he can do with most cards.

Dragon now has the absolute best removal in the game for every stage of the game. Salamander is still one of the best AOEs for dealing with board flooding as Dragon can usually do it two or so turns before Haven has access to Themis (due to ramping). Lightning Blast breaks the game and prevents basically all other Control decks from existing. It's no coincidence that they introduced it the same meta they introduced a number of powerful followers and amulets.

Dragon now has the best wards hands down, and gets the most damage out of Storm cards. It's the safest class and yet the strongest class at the same time.

And no Dshift isn't a real counter to it. You won't be able to deal with all the wards and buff followers Dragon will just keep throwing down by that point.

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>>172563020

SUCC

I'm having winstreaks on aggro shadow with absolutely no effort and brain activity. Just spam and SMOrc. Nobody can stop spooky skelly army.

>>172562943
Nah it's fucking retarded. Pure Aegis is heaps better. What's the fucking point of buffing an 8/8 or in most cases 10/10 (Haven can now save a 9 pp evo easily). I'd rather put in some more draw, test, wards, or removal.

>>172562939
Thats pretty dank

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>>172562939
That's pretty spicy.

>>172562956

0PP cards are only fairies and it is hard to come by, also they clog your board.

>>172563069

Fuck you the hardest to play class should always have a t0 deck.

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>>172563109
>Reddit spacing
I ain't reading that shit, nigga.

>>172562748
I'm still holding out hope for a wolf emblem from RoB. I have all the other ones and unpacked 3 eidolons and 3 dragoons.

>>172560938
https://shadowverse.com/articles/detail.php?id=column-043

I find it amusing how this went up so quickly after the new format was introduced.

>>172563020
grimnir's enhance and evo voice lines are especially chuuni, holy shit

>>172561206
I am vialing all heaven, rune forest and blood cards, and play only sword/shadow/dragon. Build saharamp easily.

>want to craft some new legendaries
>afraid that I might get them in a pack someday and then I'll have wasted my vials
Anyone else that feels this way?

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>>172563121

Just imagine her biting you and then laughing as your insides turn to soup.

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>>172562832
Huh, that's pretty interesting. Makes me think the devs are balancing the current cards with the next several expansions in mind which is reassuring.

>>172563259
kys retard

>>172563310
guuuurrriiiiiiiiimmmmmmmniiiiirrrrrr

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>>172562939
Whoa!

>>172563173
>Pure Aegis

What's "Pure" Aegis, the Sun version?

>>172563354
You have to go back

>>172561605
every jap that I've played lags the game and disconnects after they find out they're losing.

and that's every jap, because they are such poor players they fucking suck so bad at this game.

>>172562690
post deck

>>172563109
waahh wahhh crying runetard

>>172562414
This is a blood moon aggro deck right? Looks fun.

>>172562950
Because you have shittons of heal and early game wards to deal with the aggro? Not to mention perfect draw from aggro will screw you regardless if you wont draw your early game or ramp heavily.

>>172563217
what more do you want from free spells, 9 damage to an enemy+draw a card seems good but no way they'd do that

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>Ribbit ribbit reeeeeeee
Now I don't want to undub this
Fuck it's hilarious

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just wasted my crystals on a standard pack kill me

>>172563109

You have to think about all the classes that receive ridiculous shits other than dragon though (except forest).

Tbh I would play against a dragon that busted my face constantly than nep and that gay mordecai who keep stalling the game. At least death by dragons are fast. Dead by haven is not fast by you can see it coming one turn before.

What the hell are you supposed to do against Test of Strength+Aegis?

So what am I doing wrong? I keep losing with Dragon which is apparently overpowered as fuck.

What Blood deck are you guys running that you're seeing any real success with? I'm trying to make the new cards work and I don't see how they accomplish anything against Dragon. Snakes are cool, but the tempo loss required to pull off the combo is almost absurd, especially when Dragon can also sacrifice early game but for a far more stable and less gimmicky mid and late game.

Like with Sword and Daria in the previous meta, I don't see the point in running a deck in ladder that can't beat the most broken deck at least 55% of the time.

>>172562591
That's bullshit. Saha into Luci is still a retarded tempo swing against most decks.

Rather, Storm Ramp probably prefers to go for zell saha baha combos, with zell Ouroboros as a backup. Haven't played around with more conventional storm ramp as much, and it is annoying having to save Evo for 9 mana combos, but I don't think conventional storm ramp is as efficent. Still, if you have a list, I'd like to see.

Aggro is falling out of the meta, the only things remaining are Aggronecro. And LB is great against PC anyways.

>>172563109
>bully us dragoncucks for all of DE and RoB
>Dragon is SOMEWHAT viable now
>gotta whine
Still gets raped by Aegis and D-shift, which are super popular now. Storm Ramp fares better but it's much easier to brick than either of those two.

>>172563565
Show your list

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>tfw you win with a grimnir top deck on turn 10