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RINGED CITY IS OUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED, STAY AWAY WHILE YOU PLAY IT BY YOURSELF

>Burned through all the Estus in the first phase:
>>172520705

>Ringed City items checklist (if you find an error, please reply and correct):
https://pastebin.com/724E2jEB

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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POST YOUR PRETTIEST DARK SOULS 3 RINGED CITY WAIFU
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>>172535482
Jesus christ. This meme is going to be fun.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12638832/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12638832/
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Any anons got The Ringed City music files?

Can't find anything on Google, and I don't wanna get shitty YouTube conversions.
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>>172535580
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Midir
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Anyone have a spare DSA's shield they could drop me on PC?
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>tfw finishing Gael with 0 estus on everyone
I changed my mind, Gael fight is pretty rad. At least in co-op.
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>>172535631
What do people mean by 'Finale to the series' exactly? I don't think there's anything they could do that would've been a proper finale.
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Why the fuck is seething chaos so shit?

it sounds like it should attach and then charge to boom but it's a weak fireball unless you bait them into like a mine.
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>>172535580
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>>172535595

The arrow is hilarious against shitters and near useless against people who know how to time rolls
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Friede is retarded as fuck
Why aren't there any gamebreaking glitches in the current patch? Fucking fromsoft
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>>172535630
He looks tiny and almost delicate compared to Midir now.
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Shhhh

Filianore is sleeping
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Repostin since new thread

>>172535775
>>172535775
>>172535775
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>>172535745

kek
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>>172535815
>he doesn't know about the frostbite/toxic/whip WA exploit
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>>172535630
Reminder that Ciaran canonically disappeared up this dragon's butthole because she is the worst knight.
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>>172535754
bump before I go to sleep
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Why tho
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>S in INT at +5

i know what my new staff is, alright
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I did it!

Not pictured: 12% hp left and 0 estus.

Critical attack kicked in at like 30% HP but he still had two hits in him afterwards.

Fun fight yo but he could do with having slightly less HP, just ever so slightly.
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>>172535881
white bow now probably
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>>172535829
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>>172535742
's massive thick dragon cock
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>>172535938
She transformed into an angel
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>>172535754
>>172535929
If I hadn't literally just woken up to take care of my dog less than 15 minutes ago, I'd help you right away.
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HOW DO I USE MY 3 ESTUS IN FIGHTS AS A SPEAR MEMBER
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>>172535963
It's barely weaker than court sorcerer despite having godly WA.
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>>172535963
Use the weapon skill. It's the fastest attack in the game and you can kill people in arena with ease.
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>>172536035
you only get ashen estus
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>>172535207
Is this legit?

CE?
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>>172535630
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>>172535938
she old
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>>172535745
legitimately made me kek
nice job
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>>172535808
Hold it until they attack then trade. Although only against smaller weapons.
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>>172535992
Dragon fights in souls have always been on the HP sponge side. Midir is one of tha tanker ones though. At least he doesnt break your weapons like Sinh does.
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Why does the egg look exactly like the Vagrants from DaS?
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Do people actually have trouble with dodging Darkeater Midir's laser? I've literally never been hit by it, you just watch his head to know when to dodge.
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>>172535907
elaborate
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>>172536064
Of course not.
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Reached the church boss fight

How much level is there left? Is it straight to gael after this?
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>>172536031
Its ok anon I'm fucktired anyway
night night /dsg/ I should sleep soundly today having beat midir
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>>172536035
>needing estus when your stats are buffed to boss-tier
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>30 VIG and SS's still 3 hit kill me

haha

shit game
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>>172536137
>>172536137
what was inside the egg?
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>>172535580
Does Midir count?
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>>172536064
Of course it's CE, do you think anything could legitimately do that much damage to the boss?
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>>172536212
>only 30
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>>172536173
Pretty much
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>>172536173
Yes
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>>172535886
>How about you actually look at the game instead of stupid figures?
I have hundreds of hours in Dark Souls 2, and personally I don't find Raime difficult. My point is that if we wanted to measure which boss the playerbase has the most difficulty with overall, then the data From gave us proves that it's Fume Knight.

I don't give a fuck if you soloed him at SL1 with a broken ladle, that isn't the point. The point is that we have proof that Fume is the hardest boss in the series. Obviously people who don't have trouble with him are the outliers. They are an exception to the 93%.
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>>172536168
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y9edhYoyRQ
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>>172536296
>going over 30
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>>172536228
I dunno, ancient wyvern plunging attack was pretty weird too
So was Yhorm
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What scaling does the new spear get at max upgrade? Should I go [min str]/60 dex for it or 40/40?
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;_;7
Goodnight sweet prince
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>>172536353
Enjoy getting killed by one combo friendo
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If I invade someone as a level 30 watchdog of farron and they're a washing pole fuck who never runs out of estus and they don't take damage from poison, they're using cheatengine right?
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>>172536163
I got hit by it a couple of times when I thought I'd learned the cue, but underestimated how fast his head rises. That said dodging it is laughably easy and more of an opportunity to sprint up to his face
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Bringing Souls to PC was a mistake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJqn96IevHM
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>two last japanese games i've played both have extremely sad and beautiful endgame bosses and you fight them in deserts
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>>172536425
t. 120 meta shitter
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>>172535762
Mostly just finding out what primordial serpents are below the neck
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Was this game supposed to be big "fuck you" to anyone who invades? I just got paired against the host with three phantoms and a darkmoon blade. Did Miyazaki come to dislike the invasion component of the souls series but thought too big a riskt to remove it completely so he just opted to make it so one-sided that no one would even bother anymore? Serious question.
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>do ashes of ariandel
>killed doggo boss
>kill lady friede and her daddy

I feel like im missing something. Are there any more bosses?
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>>172536353
being in the upper mid thirties is the norm

even at SL 80 you'll at least want to go over, and you shouldn't be getting twohit unless you're using the prisoner's chain or something
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>>172535963
Enjoy doing shit damage with that WA, just stick to the court sorcerer staff
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>>172536460
>he couldn't even do infinite i-frames right
lmao
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>>172536463
EVEN IF ITS POINTLESS
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>>172536517
Yes
You can become an Aldrich bong instead but then you're the one ganking
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>>172536424
where is that and who is it
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>evade everything perfectly without getting hit just to die in first second of third phase
I hate this shit
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>>172536539
nope

now enjoy 3.5 bosses in trc. hope you rike it whaito piggu.
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>>172536517
don't forget how you get basically nothing as a reward for killing a host.
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>>172536420
just test the scaling at rosaria
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>>172536539
Nope. Now you know why some people were a little annoyed at the length.
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>circle strafe
>backstab
>kill on wake-up
Wtf i thought you guys said ringed knights were hard.
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>>172536225
Dried pygmy semen
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>>172536619
It's Greirat, you mongrel
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Reposting so you guys can laugh at this retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKEOS9zsls
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>>172536649
Ah yes i rike a rot. Dark sour ir my favolite game
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>fighting ng+7 homoprinces with frayed blade
>even though they have dark resistance the moment lorian ends his combo i bleed him like a pig
>some combos reach 1500 damage to both of them easily
This shit is so good for pve.
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>>172536478
Seeing young primordial serpents is literally the best part of the DLC and I ain't even mad.
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Darkeater "I'm hard because they pumped me with 50k hp and spend 90% of the fight running away from you so you can only get one attack in for every 5 of mine" Midir

Serves me right for thinking From couldn't fuck up a secret boss I guess
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>>172536735
No one said that
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>>172536424
>he didn't complete the quest
Protip, explore Cathedral far more thoroughly and advance some other quests first.
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>>172536664
Completely forgot weapon damage is shown on the levels screen
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>>172536774
This series should've never touched X-Box
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>>172536812
If he is 'running away' from you than you are doing it wrong.
You should never be underneath him/behind his front legs.
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>>172536818
I know, I just wanted to get some extra dialogue on this char, namely the Handmaiden's and Siegwards and along the lines I forgot a few things.
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>>172536792
>tfw buffed up spear summon vs host and his 3 phantoms

i felt like a fucking boss. weeb'd out hard that fight
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>>172536769
eh, i dont see it
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>>172536839
why?
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So with both DLC's out, are there any other good strength-only weapons besides Yhorm's Great Machete? Getting kind of bored of it.
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>>172536884
so where else should i be? bathing in his instakill flames?
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>>172536812
I see you never fought Kalameet
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>tfw only gotten invaded once at SL129 and Im up to Midir
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>>172536517
Duh. Mass audence complained about getting twink ganged in DS1, and they've been basically removing pvp from the series ever since.

Soul Memory was intended to kill any kind of meta pvp since there's no way to separate yourself from level 700s

In bloodborne they made it so you can only invade people who are playing multiplayer

In DS3 they made it basically the same, the game will usually only give you an invasion if there's someone with 2+ phantoms and almost never pair you against a solo player
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>>172537041
Ledo's Great Hammer
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>>172536884
Are you mad? I just beat him without anymore trouble than Gael by staying under him as much as I could. The only attacks that can hit you when under him are the fire ones that are slow enough so you can run behind him and hit his tail 1 or 2 times.
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>>172537092
>going past 125
ya fucked up
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>>172536950
The best part is when host is alone and ABSOLUTELY FUCKING POWERLESS against your ridiculous defences, soulmasses, helpers and other shit.
I just torture some of them until they disconnect.
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>Helping randoms through Dreg Heap
>Point out Aquamarine dagger
>He misses it
>Point out Banner&Heal path
>He misses it
>He runs out of Estus before bonfire 2, sends me home when he reaches it

Also why are so many people summoning at the start if they're just going to book it to the next bonfire instead of casually enjoying the level?
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>>172537135
What? You can be invaded at 802SL because of DLC
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>>172537041
DLC added the best greathammer in series easily and also a really fucking good halberd.
Also all ringed knight weapons are STR-leaning quality which means you get ~80% out of them with STR alone.
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>>172537041
This >>172537128 also great club my nigga
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>>172537135
people told me it would be easier to complete darkmoon covenant at 150, which is where im at
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>>172537041
Exile Greatsword
Most great hammers
Drang hammers
Most greatswords. I prefer cathedral knight cause its aesthetic

There are honestly tons of options with heavy infusions. Just experiment.
I went through the Ringed city dlc with a Heavy Exile GS and it did pretty good
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>>172537092
>>172537135
>just realized i had cross-region OFF this whole time
>inb4 sonygro
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>>172537185
Because they don't want your help to enjoy the level. They want your help because they are bad at the game and can get a sense of accomplishment faster with help than by improving
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>>172537265
Top fucking kek
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>>172537152
I stuck at spear boss for hours trying to beat him solo. Literally impossible. Every spear is mlg pro tryhard.
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>>172537152
>powerless
>estus for days
>can summon up to 3 phantoms on the spot
>darkmoons and sentinels on stand-by

how are you so lucky to get paired up with solo hosts. i have not once invaded a solo host and ive been playing since launch
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>>172537229
>You can be invaded at 802SL because of DLC
what does that even mean?
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>>172536225
The truth. Duh.
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>hear several new rings are added in TRC
>go to wiki to see what was added
>they NEVER added the dark wood grain ring
>soul of cinder baits it by backflipping
I just want to do cart wheels man, fuck
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>destroy scrubs as spear of the church using the ringed knight paired greatsword
>get invited to steam group 'nice oroboro build scrub'

Who knew running l1 into r1r1 would get you not only easy victories but also hatemail?
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>>172537152
>do spears boss first time
>4 shot invader with black knight sword poising through soulmass and guardian alike
Huh
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>>172537073
>>172537134
You should be right in front of him for two reasons:

a) you can hit his head
b) you can clearly see what he's about to do.


He won't use his tail move, he will always be moving towards you ( so you aren't chasing after him).
When you are in front of his head he will use his melee combo 95% of the time, all you have to do is dodge it (easily done it's very telegraphed).

His flames are easily dodged by simply moving back, they don't go very far.
When he does his breath into laser beam you will want to initially move out and then immediately move back in once the flames clear out, you will easily avoid his lasers and be in position to whack his head.

Honestly, being in front of his head is the easiest way to fight him. You won't be fighting the camera or be whiffing hits.
All it requires is you to git gud and dodge his melee.
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>>172537185
Because it's their third DLC playthrough and they want some invasions?
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>>172537374
I'm talking about Spears, dumbo.
You can't resummon buddies for them.
You may chug all you want but my own helpers will heal ME.
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What's the best str weapon these days bros? I miss my 99 str power stance boulder on stick build
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>>172537326
I mean if you're not going to fight anything why bring phantoms there and not at the boss?

I had a great time on my 4th run through dreg heap just taking it slow like its my first time but with 2 phantoms.
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>Summoned as spear for the second time, the two painting guardians are still alive, playing a faith build
>Fight drags on, painting guardians are a bit damaged and I'm almost dead
>Host backs off to drink estus, but his flask is empty, while he's stuck in the animation I cast bountiful sunlight
>Mfw it heals me and the painting guardians completely
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>>172536429
Yeah. It's usually the other way around where CE fags invade that early.
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>>172536328
But I'm in no way exceptional at playing Souls, I'm simply not retarded, and I can say that Fume Knight is easy compared to the hardest Souls bosses.
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>>172537381
It's not math. Everyone play DLC right now. From 1SL to 802SL. A lot people don't cares about your meta levels. That's why you can invade non stop even at 200SL
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>>172537491
str build might have more weapons than quality now
Dex has 2 weapons.
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>>172537474
Then why run immediatly to the bonfire, not fighting anything?
And besides these memelords should know about the dried finger
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>>172537412
>mfw I realized TRC only added +3 rings and not a single new one
Fucking lazy faggots I swear
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>>172536331
He doesn't seem to show a full fight.
Do I need only toxic+frostbite+whip WA to "stun"?
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>>172537412
Fuck you, you colossal faggot. Cartwheels were pure unadulterated cancer.
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>>172537616
>AoA added 1 ring
>Chillbite
Why that wasnt in the game to begin with is a better question.
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>>172537556
The point is if you find Fume Knight easy you are indeed exceptional.
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Killing bosses as a twink is actually pretty easy if you can at least take a hit. Even with 99 vigor and both health rings, 80% of your health comes from estus. Went for princes instead or friede because I needed the hunter's ring anyway.
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>>172537616
>they couldn't even add +3 sage ring for the spellcasters

really activates the blood flow
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>>172536353
The soft cap is 39 friendo
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>>172537556
What is the hardest boss in your opinion?
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>>172537740
Why you need +3 sage ring, autist?
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>>172537412
Out of all the rings you want, you pick something extremely cancerous. I'd much rather have a fun ring like

- Ring of Thorns
- Stone Ring
- Vanquisher's Seal
- Something that regens FP
- Something that increases your poison and bleed build up
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>>172537746
i think the major break points are 27 39 44 and 48 with after 50 giving 2-3 hp per level
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Oh look

SS's still outdamage UGS's
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I need to know. Is the new ringed knight spear dex or quality? Prease understandu
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Will from buff the demons scar?
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>>172537638
He also uses storyteller staff(its poison, not toxic) and don't forget he uses notched whip which has bleed.
He's basically applying all the possible statuses and its hard to say which ones matter since its all in moonrunes
I didn't manage to completely stun Midir(probably because huge stamina pool and immune to toxic/poison) but I did root him in place for a little while with frost-buffed notched whip
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>>172537818
>Something that regens FP
Still mad there isnt a Darkmoon Seance ring that does this
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>>172537848
qual
>>172537857
why would they?
It's ok as it's pure fire
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>>172537836
that's correct
it's also worth noting that life +3 doesn't actually give you the next five level's worth of vigor until you're at 29 I believe (making it arguably inferior to stat rings until that point)
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>>172537846
Do you even play the game? Legitimate question, because I feel like you're some Infernoplus fanboy.

My straight sword does like 200 damage a swing to a player in full havel's. Meanwhile an UGS gets a guaranteed 2-hit on me for 2/3 of my health.
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What the hell is going on?
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>>172537730
So that you would have something to remember Elfriede by.
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>>172537738
>80% of your health comes from estus
this. The difference in how easy things are between having VIG where you die in one combo vs VIG where you can take a combo then back off to heal is gigantic.
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gael sword or his crossbow?

which one is less shitty to transpose?

the new pyromancie from demon prince souls is worth anything?
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>>172537959
you put a white sign down that got grabbed by Argo
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So I started to make an infographic about the DkS universe and it got me thinking:

Did souls existed before the First Flame? Did Dragons had souls in the Age of Ancients?
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Any way to get more Spear summons than just standing around?
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>>172538025
the pyromancy is basically a delayed explosion so it's basically useless for duels and a meme in any other situation
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>>172538025
Sword for flipping action
No, go demons scar
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>>172535760
>summoning against a humanoid greatsword user
Why do people make the game shit for themselves?
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>>172537736
I'm exceptional at not being retarded, I'm not exceptional objectively.
>>172537786
I dunno because I haven't been playing for a long time but I remember Lorian Darkbeast being a bitch for various reasons, Alonne having no tells whatsoever on the piercing attacks, in DaS3 probably Frieda and the new dlc bosses. I still haven't fought beaten Gael or fought Midir.
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>>172537979
Oh i think the burn marks are a good enough reminder
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>>172538025
sword is really good actually.
BKS might still be the best though
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>DaS 2 gets remade
>lighting isn't fucked anymore, torches are actually useful
>DaS3's fast combat
>they add the areas that were scrapped during development, like the area that was going to connect earthen peak to iron keep, or the second entrance to drangleic castle
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>Be pyro
>Excited for the Demon Scar
>It's shit

Oh well, I'll keep using my Onyx Blade
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>>172538067
we need family trees dude
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>>172538113
Fast combat sucks, I want snail souls
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>>172538095
Objectively you are better at that boss than the vast majority of the playerbase.

What is wrong with you my dude. Are you gonna pretend the stats don't exist?
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>>172537802
So I can cast spells faster retard
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>>172538128
At least Flame Fan is strong in PvP

If you hit them with it and stagger them you can followup with a normal attack for counter damage.
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>>172538113
>DaS3's fast combat
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>>172537818
>Vanquisher's Seal
>tfw fist weapons are irredeemably shit in 3
>tfw remembering falling in love with dual-caestus in 2
why did they have to fuck them so much?
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>>172538113
>DS2 as done by memezaki
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>>172538067
That thing is wrong. If the pigmy and the lords found the souls in the first flame how come they could be alive before founding them?

Souls aren't the source of life.
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>>172538101

What's the explanation for this? fucking piece of shit game not working as intended
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>>172537738
Nice, I've got enough room for a crossbow now
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>>172538113
>>DaS3's fast combat

Cancer. If I wanted to play Bloodborne I'd play Bloodborne.
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>>172538262
>>172538197
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Do I buy SotFS or Vanilla on PC?
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What's your favorite weapon from the new DLC??
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>>172538095
If you don't fall into the 93% that gets their shit kicked in by Raime, then you are by definition exceptional.

Also, I hope From release win rates for Gael and Midir. Especially Midir. If any boss has a chance of beating Fume Knight ratio, it's him.
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Can I run through the game in offline mode with CE without getting softbanned?
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>>172538067
Souls are just generic life force. 99% of the things we have killed, including dragons descendents drop souls. If the one in DS2 that gives you the curved dragon UGS is a an actual everlasing dragon (4 wings, 2 jaws) then yeah, they all have souls.

>>172538302
They found the Souls of Lords, they might always have generic souls in them.
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>>172538052
Is that working as intended or is the big guy just memeing on me? I don't mind getting summoned as a Spear, but it's kinda odd that every other summon is just that.
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Are you supposed to use the Claymore's 1H or 2H moveset? I kind of like both.
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>>172538279
>Pate is gone
>Replaced with another character called Pateches
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>>172538314
strike damage.
But maybe something more.
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>>172538365
SOTFS
>>172538375
Gael's or Twin UGS
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Pestilent Mercury doesn't scale with sorcery-boosting rings, right?
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>>172538420
Or perhaps...
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>>172538375
Gael's greatsword, though I still have to give the ringed knight straight sword a proper try as well.
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>>172538365
SotFS
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>>172538385
probably but don't use cheat scripts like a fag.
I did it to dupe the souls and get all the weapons and 100% armour drops
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>>172538407
In PvP you primarily want the HA of the 2H moveset
1H sweeps are handy for deadangles or rollcatching
In PvE its whatever suits the situation, 1H for multiple enemies, 2H for single target
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Reminder they'll be nerfing the paired greatswords, crucifix, door shields and preacher's arm soon.

Enjoy them while you can.
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>>172537818
>useless
>dude poise lmao
>no
>what is executioners GS
>poison and bleed just got buffed
No thanks
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>>172538302
Soul of a Hero item description: "Souls are the source of all life,
and whether Undead, or even Hollow,
one continues to seek them."

>If the pigmy and the lords found the souls in the first flame how come they could be alive before founding them?

The Lord Souls represent Power, not life.
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>>172538414
>>the giant book makes sense
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>>172538375
aerial hammer
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>>172538365
Vanilla
SotFS is like a DS2 romhack.
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>>172538414
>tfw no questline where Pate and Creighton are being pinned against eachother through Patches framing them on multiple occasions.
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>>172538067
The first flame was created by Gwyn. The only thing that was said about the early hollows (Gwyn and the others were a part of them) was that "from the dark they came". Also, the dark soul is one of the Lord Souls, not a separate one.

Dragons drop souls, so I'd say they did have them in the Age of Ancients.
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>>172538526
I'm just planning on going through the game and one hitting the bosses up to the dlc.
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obligatory "damn I want to fuck karla"
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>>172538542
what wrong with all these thing's though?
>>172538601
Just use heavy exile sword and 6 hit them instead, but that's ok too.
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>>172538148
I'm working on that too, but it gonna take some time.
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So is the Exile Curved GS the new shitter weapon?

I've yet to see any Darkswords or Estocs, just the fucking Exile.
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>>172538375
Ledo's great hammer, no contest.
I also like the Splitleaf Grwatsword, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to make the WA work.
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>>172538387
>they might always have generic souls in them.
No.
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>Cleric's Candlestick will never lose the retarded fai requirement
>it will never be infusable/buffable
>it will never be the Blue Flame
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>>172538586
>The first flame was created by Gwyn.
This is the extent of /dsg/s knowledge of Dark Souls lore. Jesus Christ.
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Am I the only one that hates Gay's Greatsword for how shit it looks?
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>>172537659
>implying DaS pvp wasn't cancer and retarded in it's entirety
Please stop nostalgia fagging
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>>172538067
Soul of life creates demons
Soul of light creates gods
Dark Soul creates humans
What does the soul of death creates ?
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>>172538638
shit, forgot webm
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>>172538720
damn i want to fug karla
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>>172538547
Souls are the source of power, not life.
It's been like this since Demon's Souls.
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>>172538229
cap is 45dex, rude retard
kill yourself
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>>172538725
Wait, am I wrong? I haven't thought about DS1 lore for a long time. What is the first flame then?
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>>172538741
The only thing that was wrong with DaS pvp was TWoP. That's it.
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>>172538734
I thought I would hate it, but the aesthetics of it have grown on me, it looks good with Slave knight armor or anything sufficiently worn out.

Generally I have a hard time liking any greatsword because they're all animated so terribly, but the retarded flailing just works with Gael's sword.
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>>172538890
And Giantdads
And the Zweihander
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>>172538890
And backstabs
And poise
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>>172538659
- Pinpoint tracking on the twin greatswords
- Legitimate stunlock on crucifix with L2 -> R2
- Complete scrub stomper with the shield
- Fastest attack in the game on L2 that does high damage and can't be parried or blocked

In that order
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>>172538690
it's pretty straightforward, use R2 if they're trying to flee

>>172538865
that's ds1, I'm pretty sure it's 50 in ds3 depending on the spell
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I just had a thought, what if the fire started fading BECAUSE the original lords took the souls of of it? Hence why it can be sustained by adding more (although with dimishing returns as all the souls lose power over time). What if they'd never taken them, would the fire have just burned happily forever?
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>>172538586
>The first flame was created by Gwyn
What?

>Also, the dark soul is one of the Lord Souls, not a separate one.
Kinda is and isn't. It was found in the First Flame like the Lord Souls, but as we know it, its properties are unique, thus they're named differently.
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>>172538935
>giantdads
>a problem

*parries*
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>>172538935
Literally just parry them
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>>172538890
and hornet ring
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>>172538936
Unironically git gud.
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>>172538586
>The first flame was created by Gwyn
Imbecile.
The rest is correct, except Dragons WERE GIVEN souls by the Lords who fought and beat them after they decided to submit to Gwyn.
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>>172538586
>The first flame was created by Gwyn

its time to stop posting
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>>172538876
>But then there was Fire and with fire came disparity. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark.
>Then from the dark, They came, and found the Souls of Lords within the flame... Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight, and his faithful knights.
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>>172538936
And toggling.
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>mugenmonkey doesn't have the dlc weapons yet
Is there anywhere else where I can properly plan my character?
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>>172538847
>Souls are the source of power

If you're talking about the Lord Souls then yes, otherwise I'll ask you to read the item description I quoted before.
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>>172539091
pen and paper
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>>172538812
Spooks
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>>172539091
CE
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>>172538983
All the souls have unique properties and could be named in the same way as the Dark Soul (Gwyn -> Light Soul, Nito -> Death Soul, Izalith -> Life Soul)

>>172539053
>>172539049
>>172539020
I see.
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>>172539091
Rosaria. You just need to put the work in first
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>>172537957
>UGS is a guaranteed 2-hit
Bruh wtf post build
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Killed Gael. now what?
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>>172538876
Just a thing that exists and that contained the lord souls. The gods found the lord souls and most of them used their souls to try to get the first flame going for longer.

Gwyn and a lot of kings sacrificed humans to it because their pieces of the dark soul could serve as kindling. He ultimately sacrificed himself to the flame as kindling. He also gave pieces of his soul to the 4 kings and Seath that the CU then collects to activate the lordvessel.
The witch tried to create a new flame with her soul but created the flame of chaos instead.
The furtive pygmy split his soul to create humanity. His soul is the only one that seems to grow in power overtime instead of fading, as humanity multiplies.
Nito didn't give a shit and went to take a nap.
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>>172539142
I didn't graduate from college to do math for weapon weights
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>dark souls 1: chaos flame is in lost izalith
>dark souls 3: chaos flame is in lost izalith
>dark souls 2: chaos flame is located in some frozen land far away from izalith

and they ruined the lore

in das1 and 3, the chaos flame has some complex and amazingly written philosophical implications

in das2 it's "dude chaos flame creates demons lmao xD, like, LITERAL demons"
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>>172539106
There's no other souls other than the Lords Souls. The Lords split their souls and gave a small fragment of their soul to all the other beings. Here >>172539053 >>172539020
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>>172539212
Kill Midir
Bully people trying to beat Spear of the Church
Realize that the game is slowly gonna die from here on out and this is literally the last peak it'll ever have
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>>172539230
>Find weapon with similar weight
>???
>Profit
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I really don't understand all those "mage" sets in DLC.
Basically you need poise for MLGS and Tinder. Those sets have no poise. Okay.
Defence. Those sets have no defence and you will die after 3R1 SS hits. Okay.
Magic damage is so shit that you forced to fear neko ears. Okay
There is wolf ring and RoP+3 but you have only 1 ring slot because From hates you.
You have shit stamina and HP, no defence and can wear only one ring. What the fuck?
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anyone try out the pyro spell "seething chaos" and is it any good?
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>>172539212
Crushing feeling of emptiness
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Haven't played in a while, so I've forgotten
Strength hits a softcap for scaling at 40, right?
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>>172539216
>Nito didn't give a shit and went to take a nap.
He did make the ilfanito and gravenito dudes which was one of if not the only good lore contribution DS2 gave us.
>>172539318
Fashion man. Shiras headpiece, Zullies set and the slutwear are great.
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Where the fuck were the lightning strikes and cape explosions when Gale was fighting on my side?
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>>172538963
45dex. Even if it 50, Sage+2 gives you 40dex
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>>172539295
>Kill Midir
>Bully people trying to beat Spear of the Church
Did both of them too. Too lazy to kill people until rank 3.
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>>172538813

I want to fug that phatom range.
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>>172539256
Elyum Loyce was built on top of lost izalith, to contain it.
The king dude, similarly to Gwyn, went in there to try and contain it.
His waifu, the turned shard of manus, sealed it off when he failed to return.

Did you not play DaSII?
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>>172539256
There are two times in the series that I felt like the game turned into a cliche Warcraft-like moment. The moment the ivory king comes out of a flaming portal in the old chaos and the moment I saw the red fog made of skulls spewing out of Gael.
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>>172538890
You must really like insta fullheals.
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>>172538375
Tie between gaels and haralds i really like both of their battle arts.
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>>172539446
They only appear after he absorbs the pygmies dark souls pieces, which are very big chunks of the original. That's like saying why doesn't Gough shoot sunlight spears from his ass.
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>>172539429
>Fashion man
Yeah, but not for MAGES. It's kinda ridiculous.
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>>172539530
That wasn't a problem with a pvp, that was a problem with cheat detection
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>>172539164
>All the souls have unique properties and could be named in the same way as the Dark Soul

If they could be named why they were not? The Dark Soul has its name for a reason, because its not like the Lord Souls. Its crystal clear From wants to imply this.

>>172539282
>There's no other souls other than the Lords Souls.

How were people alive before the First Flame appeared then? I'll say it again, in the Soul of a Brave Hero item description it explicitly says the soul is the source of all life.
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Can I not get help with Vordt? How do I summon people?
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>people are killing Gael before Midir and losing the slab
LMFAO
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>finally get summoned for church spear
>Get ganked by 3 guys after 5 minutes of rolling

What the fuck
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>aw yiss! getting summoned as a spear of the church for the first time!
>3v1
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>>172539562
Mages don't need to get close and personal though. You pewpew with soul arrows and spears with homing soulmass for pressure if they get close plus whatever melee weapon you have.
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>>172539318
I don't understand why people are so focused on playing "pure" mages. Magic is souls is about complementing melee builds, pure mage has always been either boring as fuck, stupidly easy or both.
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>>172539639
She invade you later and drops slab...
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>>172539497
>Elyum Loyce was built on top of lost izalith
nice headcanon
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>>172539728
What do you think the 'old chaos' is?
and why you have to jump down into it?
and why it was sealed off with ice magic?
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>>172539639
>caring about a slab and not duping weps between all your friends and having everything maxed anyways
and im on console i can only imagine how irrelevant slabs are on cheat engine pc
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>>172535745
saved
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>>172539687
You get more defense when the host has phantoms. You're basically invulnerable when there are 2 or more.
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>>172539580
Th Dark Soul has a specific name, because it's the most relevant one in the game. Also, it's the only one that doesn't have a character the player can associate it with (the pygmy/ies don't really count, since he/they are only mentioned in the cinematic). You don't see anyone speaking of Nito's soul when they can just say Nito.
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>>172539687
>not realizing how strong you are as a Spear, especially when host has phantoms
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>>172539690
>You pewpew with soul arrows and spears with homing soulmass for pressure if they get close plus whatever melee weapon you have.
In theory. On practice it's doesn't work. 40end, 40vig RoF+3, RoP+3 66STR boy will just stomp at you.
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>>172539639
>losing a single slab
LMAO indeed
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What's the optimal level for Spear invasions? I've heard 80 and 110 passed around.
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>>172539728
so what are you implying?
Its absurd to conclude eleum loyce was build on top of lost izalith since what? Lost Izalith contains the chaos flame. The chaos flame is under eleum loyce. ergo, lost izalith is located beneathed eleum loyce and eleum loyce is built on top of it.

or of course you can make the claim the developers just dont know their own lore and you know it much much better
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I'm on NG++ as a SL102 pyro with the Beyblade twin axes.

Fuck Gael in his old ass. I pissed off Andre so I can't even re-allocate my goddamn estus, so I'm stuck with 9-5.

And Gael always chooses to go absolutely all-out when he's 5 hits from dead.
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>>172539687
Funny enough the way the made it, the more players vs you the better. You gain insane resistances let alone by default you have hyper armor on permanently and can straight power through and ass smash everyone.
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>>172539698
>focused on playing "pure" mages
Well, because you need 60int and 3 rings or you will deal less damage than dagger
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>>172539939
>>172539820
there's no snow on top of lost izalith in das 3
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>>172539978
>Pissed of Andre
You give me flashbacks to that one DS1 player that killed Andre a while ago
Cant you just request absolution from the velka statue?
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>>172539728
All of Souls lore is headcanon, anon.
Don't pretend miyasucky had some 1k page soulsmarillion in his closet just because he implied it.
It's another pendant situation, a prank.
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I think for their next not souls but totally is a souls style game from should mix the DS2/3 and BB weapon system with the armour system.

Weapons should be infuseable and also be able to go from base to +10 or whatever but shouldn't have gem slots like in BB.

Armour shouldn't be upgradeable but should have slots for the equivalent of gems. Maybe keep the numbers nice and tidy unlike BBs 16.7% attack up or whatever. So like one gem gives attack up 5% and takes one slot. Attack up 2 takes up 2 slots but gives 15% (to not be outclassed by the normal gems).
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>>172539916
I dont think level matters so much actually, I went in with my lvl 20 twink and I still got invaded by a spear. His damage was downgraded though and he couldnt dona thing againest patches, he did 90 damage on backstab lol
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>>172539580
>How were people alive before the First Flame appeared then?
In Souls universe soul isn't the source of life. Duh.
You don't even know if it's the source of life in our world, for fuck's sake, what are you some fucking redneck?
>in the Soul of a Brave Hero item description it explicitly says the soul is the source of all life
And there are multiple sources that state the opposite, the first one being the opening cinematic of Dark Souls.
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>>172539580
Hollows aren't alive. Neither are dragons. Souls are the source of life, which is why hollows crave them and hate things that have them.

Hollows and Dragons just existed during the age of ancients, then fire came and disparity with it, infusing hollows with life.
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I didn't really think about this until now, but that one NPC on the road to the first bonfire in the Ringed City seems really suspect.
He was there once and then just left.
He also sounds like he wants to undermine everything Gywn has done, and calls all his shit a lie.
He also looked really similar to the Pygmy dude on the way to Gael.
Am I insane, or was that guy the Furtive Pygmy? Because if he was, then holy shit that was actually the best possible way to put him in, have him be so innocuous that no one would even remember he was there.
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>>172539865
>You don't see anyone speaking of Nito's soul when they can just say Nito.

Nito's soul is referred as a Lord Soul. Why wouldn't they call the Dark Soul the same? The only thing the Lords Souls have in common with the Dark Soul is that they were found within the First Flame.
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>>172535595
Wew. You can l2 for instant poise and you can roll out of the bow.
>>
What would you say is the memiest weapon of the DLC?
>>
How can i achieve fucking invincible status on ds3 ?
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>>172540090
bait
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>>172540074
The first one said the Souls of Lords specifically, you even quoted it for heavens sake
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>>172540009
and? the world shifts around all the time each cycle.
>>
Fear not the Dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin.
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>>172540148
Either the paired UGS or the Door.
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What's a decent STR weapon? I've been using the Heavy Millwood Battle Axe +10 so far, are there any better weapons?
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>>172540050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JObtOQSQIuQ&ab_channel=OnlyAfro
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>>172540009
Yes there is. It's under the boreal valley. And if there wasn't it wouldn't be a problem, because in case you didn't notice, snow can melt and in dark souls geography itself doesn't matter. That's the whole point of the dreg heap and the high wall of Lothric, the world is tearing itself apart and crumbling in on itself.
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>>172540163
>equip paired knight greatswords
>activate poise with wolf ring and shit
>r1 into l1l1
>>172540203
So these fuckers just want to eat you and so tell you tales of other npcs that died to try and convince you?
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>>172540009
ok
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>>172540281
>snow can melt
snow =/= ice
ice can melt, snow can't
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>>172540178
What now? I just got done killing Gael, have people joking about this for a while or something?
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>>172540163
Double greatshields during Spear invasions.
You can just sit behind them and bully hosts with soulmasses.
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>>172540163
Havel armor
Steel prot+3
Greathammer with perseverance
44vig, rofap+3, life ring+3
Optionally cast GMB

activate poise, spam r1 or take a sippy, win
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>>172540284
Seems like it. I was sort of convinced when he said irina is afraid of the dark nibbling at her flesh but the abyss has never created such a thing, but I mean....we're in a swamp thats described as "abyssal" and its full of bugs and things that try to eat you so I don't really trust his word on that.
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>>172536460
there would have been no limit to the soulsborne series if they didnt have to run somewhat smoothly on the most scrapped Xbox there is.

Console players hold back the gaming industry with their infantile fanboism & consumerism. We could be literally railing Priscilla in VR right now if it wasn't for 12 year olds and their Xboxes.
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>>172540090
Yeah, people were screaming about it in the last thread. He has the same clothes as the other pygmy kings except for the crown, calls himself an ally, tells you how to reach the dark soul and says he knows it intimately then just vanishes. He's also utterly forgotten by everyone who played the DLC.
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>>172540009
can accurately tell me how much time passed between ds1, 2 and 3? no. so a lot of shit can happen if we assume its been 100, 2000 or even more years. aside from that, carthus and by extension, lost izalith lies beneath the boreal valley. so there is indeed snow on top of it
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>>172540086
>Hollows and Dragons just existed during the age of ancients
No, retard. The cinematic states that all living being came AFTER the age of dragons, AT THE BEGINNING of the age of fire, FROM the first flame, where some of them ALSO found the Lord Souls.
>>172540181
You should learn to read >>172539282
>There's no other souls other than the Lords Souls. The Lords split their souls and gave a small fragment of their soul to all the other beings
All the non Lords souls you find in Dark Souls were once part of the Lord Souls.
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>>172540358
You just miss the point about Pygmy. He's not so special according DLC lore.
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>>172540443
Irina is afraid of the Deep, not the Abyss. The nibbling insects that she's scared of are the things casted by Gnaw/Dorhy's
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>>172540345
>snow isn't ice
>snow can't melt
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Why the fuck are so many people putting down dark signs at the spear church?
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>>172540535
You could even say that he's SO EASILY FORGOTTEN.
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>>172540345
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>172540558
Eh but the abyss gives us monstrosities regardless like the oolacile dudes. They look quite insect like.
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Where's a good location to farm a butt ton of souls? I'm not ready for dlc yet. Can someone drop me souls/suggest a good location that isn't kill the same Drake blood knight over and over
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>>172540074
>And there are multiple sources that state the opposite
Show them.

>the first one being the opening cinematic of Dark Souls.
Nope, when she says "life and death" she is referring to disparity, not life itself. Everyone was immortal in the Age of Ancients, but to be immortal first you have to be alive, thus everyone had souls. Just put your brain to work, kiddo.
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>>172540626
You can get summoned as the boss by doing that
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>>172540626
probably to get summoned as a spear to assist the boss. thats what it was like with the mirror knight fight in das2
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is prisoner's chian worth it at low levels? (25-40)
what about high levels?
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>>172540558
Well same deal really. If she's afraid of the abyss then we're in an abyss swamp full of insects, if she's afraid of the deep then we literally know for an absolute fact from the main game that the deep is related to bugs because of gnaw.

Either way I don't trust him.
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>>172540345
Burgers are finally awake
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>>172540717
>Low levels
Yes
>High
No
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>>172540618
>>172540640
>>172540761
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>>172540717
it's ok
it can be considered equal to -10 vit due to the defense drop so it's overall about as good as a +5 ring if you actually care about hp
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>>172540662
Silver knights on anor londo steps is pretty efficient
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>>172540007
For some reason I read that as "you'll do less damage than a nigger"

Made me kek
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>>172538943
The shield is fucking weak as fuck.
>>
DARK SOUL OF MAN CAN'T MELT SNOW BEAMS
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how is that new dual greatsword weapon even fair
>>
Does Lapp go anywhere after he kicks you off the thing or is he just gone?
>>
>>172540469
Figured someone else would've noticed. I should know better than to bring shit like this up 2 days after the fact, I guess.
>>
Mod that plays Christmas carols during Gael's fight when
Mod that turns the sand into snow when?
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>>172540673
>>172540683
Who started that meme? That's not how it works for the spear boss fight. You just put on the covenant emblem and you get summoned.
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>>172540090
Where? Only NPC's I've met in RC have been the old pilgrim and Lapp/Patches.
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>>172540665
>Nope, when she says "life and death" she is referring to disparity, not life itself. Everyone was immortal in the Age of Ancients, but to be immortal first you have to be alive, thus everyone had souls. Just put your brain to work, kiddo.
No, you fucking brainlet. Without disparity there can be no life. Dragons weren't alive. Being immortal is the very definition of not being alive, look at un-dead vampires, you fucking retard.
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>>172540490
>The cinematic states that all living being came AFTER the age of dragons
Meaning dragons aren't alive and therefore don't have souls since they all came from the first flame.
It also says that *after* the first flame appeared "they" came and found stuff in the flame. They didn't appear in or with the flame. The first flame appeared and it lured the hollows to it, that's the entire fucking philosophical background of pyromancy, undeads are attracted to fire, like moths to a flame. The hollows existed before even the first flame, but they were empty shells devoid of life.
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>>172540345
>ice can melt, snow can't
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>>172540864
You can summon him for Judicator Argo
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Havent played in a couple of months, some questions;

>best talisman/chime for dark miracles

>best staff for dark sorceries

>is the new DLC suposed dark buffing staff good?
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Here's a shitty family tree of Gwyn I made just now. The () means that the character's relation to Gwyn is not confirmed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

And before anyone asks, Yorshka has (), because she is a new character and she has a tail. I don't see Gwyn having a child with a dragon, so her placement is uncertain
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>>172540904
i never said thats how you do it. I assumed it, since thats what from did for a similar boss in one of their previous games
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>>172540904
You can get summoned by throwing down your white sign, I assume red sign works the same way.
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>>172540870
will be added with Scholar of the First Sin GOTY edition DLC 2 - electric boogaloo
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>>172540869
>>172540469
Just compare his crown to Gwyn statue.
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>>172541057
Where the fuck is Solaire?
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>>172540952
>dragons aren't alive and therefore don't have souls
The two things are independent. The same opening states that beings came to life and THEN found the Lord Souls.
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>>172541057
I don't think there's anything in the games that tell us Seath and Gywnevere fucked.
As far as I know, that was just a fan theory.
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>>172540618
>>172540640
>>172540761
>>172540983
Ice is frozen snow and thus can melt
snow is the natural state of ice before freezing, since it's not frozen it cannot be melted
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>>172541020
>is the new DLC suposed dark buffing staff good?
Do you have 60 Int with low Faith, then yes its your new Hexing staff
If you are 40/40 or something along those lines then stick with Izalith

>best staff for dark sorceries
See above

>best talisman/chime for dark miracles
Sunless/Caitha
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>>172541057
Yorksha is gywndolin and Priscilla kid
Priscilla is gwyniverre and seath kid
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>>172541020
1. depends on your stats
2. Izalith
3. no
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>>172541057
yorshka and fillianore might be from other mothers than gwynevere. also gwynevere was not only banged by oceiros and seath but by a flame-god named "flann" as stated in das 2. other than that this seems fine
>>
Imaging being the poor spear who lost against DSP
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>>172540929
>Without disparity there can be no life.
How were the Dragons living then?

>says being immortal is the very definition of not being alive

Jesus Christ kid, don't make me quote the dictionary to educate you.
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>>172541057
Might as well add Rosaria and Leonhard somewhere in there, if you're going full head-canon
>yfw Rosaria is literally Leonhard's mommy
>he wanted to fuck her
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>>172540345
>>172541184
>snow is the natural state of ice before freezing
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>>172541116
where is he supposed to be?
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>>172541224
>DSP playing TRC
Whats his 'cheese' tactic this time around?
I remember the fan-given Gravelord Sword in DS1 and his pre-nerf miracle spam in 2
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>>172541057
>gwynevere and seath
>gwynevere and oceiros

i dont actually think either of these were ever confirmed. wasnt the reasoning behind gwynevere and seath basically based on "well theyre both large"?

that said I really enjoy the idea of her fucking two seperate dragon boys. she just couldn't get enough.
>>
Friede takes no time at all as long as you aren't a shitter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X00CHBd_N2c
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>>172541189
>>172541020
Don't listen this fag. New hex staff is PURE trash. It's deals only 50 more damage under buff. Without WA court outdamage this shit.
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>>172536774
DSP ruined that armor set for me

every time i put it on im reminded of that retard and switch to another set
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>>172541184
Snow IS ice you imbecile.
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>>172541332
>Whats his 'cheese' tactic this time around?
Running past everything
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What's a good strength weapon to use before I can get the paired greatswords?
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>>172541264
the dragons werent living. they were essentially fire-breathing rocks
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>>172540952
They came from the first flame. Fire is the source of disparity and life. As it's stated in this very dlc where there's a flame, there's a shadow (life and death), where there's darkness there's nothing.
>>172541264
>How were the Dragons living then?
They were not alive?
>Jesus Christ kid, don't make me quote the dictionary to educate you.
Something that can't die is by definition not alive.

Jesus you people are fucking retarded. Go read a book once in your life.
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>>172541116
Solaire is not related to Gwyn

>>172541172
>>172541347
Oh, I never bothered to research it, because so many people kept telling it as a fact. I thought an item implied it or something. Seath should be an "unknown dragon" in that case.

>>172541212
I didn't put the flame god in there, since no child is mentioned between him and Gwynevere.
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>>172541367
One of the better looking sets, too.
Sad.
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>>172541057
>Gwynevere + Seath
are you mentally fucking retarded?
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>>172541184
>snow is the natural state of ice before freezing
Anon ice before freezing is water. Is this an elaborate bait or do you need a lie down.
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>>172541332
Funny how much looking glass knight fucked him over.
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>>172541184
>Ice is frozen snow
That's like saying water is a frozen droplet
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>>172541404
everything except FUGS and zwei
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>>172541404
L E D O

E

D

O
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>>172541184
Take this one out behind the chemical sheds, boys. It's a kindness
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>>172541404
>paired greatswords
>Strength
Try again
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>>172541356
How is he casting vestiges so fast? Sage+2 and dex?
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>>172541184
Have a (You)
Decent bait
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Who here /summonedforeveryboss/?

I only wanted this DLC for the dual GS anyway.
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>>172541528
45dex is cap
sage +2 gives you 40
you don't need any dex
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Why there's humanity/effigy/ember and not one thing in all games ?
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>>172541057
There is nothing in the lore suggesting that the Ancient dragons even procreated.
If Seath created Priscillia, it was
A: Almost certainly done by magic
and
B: Done with one of Gwynevere's handmaidens, not herself.

And while we're at it, the queen of Lothric/Rosaria was probably a descendant of Gwynevere, not herself.
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>>172541172
>>172541448

It was Seath with Velka or Witch of Izalith.
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/dsg/....

YOU ARE MY ONLY HOPE

i am looking for a weapon that fits this fashion. Currently running with a 40/40 quality build at SL120.

FEED

ME

IDEAS
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>>172541404
That Millwood Knight Axe is extremely strong if you want to rush.
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>>172541184
such is life in Trump's America

Snow does melt you fucking yank. the difference is that snow can either melt into liquid or directly into steam. The second case is called sublimation which happens naturally at a very, very slow rate. This is why snow often stays even though the temparatures have risen above ~4°C.
Ice sublimates as well btw.

If you manually add heat to snow it melts into water just fucking fine you gigantous faggot.
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>>172541447
>Something that can't die is by definition not alive.
Something animated and sentient is by definition alive

I'm amazed with your level of stupidness.
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>>172541575
I summone for the Bats because the felt likr bullshit and I didn't want to miss out on any potential Lappe stuff.
Solo'd the rest.
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>>172541447
>where there's darkness there's nothing.
Except archtrees, dragons, an unformed land and most likely hollows. Before the first flame appeared, it's said word for word that the 3 first things existed. It's then said that after the first flame appeared, "they" came to it from the shadows and we're shown hollows with the fire in the background.
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>>172541687
Ringed Knight Spear maybe
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>>172541687
>Naked shoulders
Hmm a sheath would ruin that look i think, so most GS's are out.
A spear or a Halberd perhaps?
Maybe splitleaf?
>>
>>172541687
a whip and lube.
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>>172541575
I was summoning but in the end killed every boss solo, because fuck the ridiculous hp pools
>>
>>172541184
holy fuck my sides are gone, god bless you anon.
>>
What SL required for dlc? I'm sl 100 and am hitting these guys like a wet noodle. The fucking thralls in dreg heap have as much health as nameless king
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>decide to try out spears
>get summoned once every ten minutes
>always a 3v1
>NPCs are fucking useless, die instantly
>no estus allowed for you
>meanwhile, everyone else is chugging the Dew like they won a free lifetime supply
>only "advantage" you have is the spear fragment
>have to be completely fucking retarded to get hit by that
>still does shit damage
>everyone just starts sprinting full speed around the arena when they run out of estus and get low on health
>still manage to win over half the time I get summoned

I knew people were terrible at this game, but god damn... I mean I'm not even using a cheap build, just the profaned greatsword with a quality build. No magic. I shouldn't be winning this much.
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>>172541729
>such is life in Trump's America
Lmao told em
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>>172541837
60 is plenty for NG
120 seemed about right for NG+2
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>>172541687
What bottom is that?
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>>172541837
100 is just fine
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>>172541184
>Ice is frozen snow
>natural state of ice before freezing
fucking east coast is waking up.
>>
>>172541687
Caestus and discus miracle.
Go save your female love interest.
>>
>>172541837
did it at 70~80
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>>172541729
>Forcing politics in a discussion when it's not relevant
???
>>
>>172541687
Notched whip
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>>172541742
Not in dark souls it isn't. The dragons were animated and sentient yet they're explicitly state to have existed before life was a thing. "Living" things in dark souls mean they have a soul, that's it. The type of soul determine their power and their nature.
>>
>try to complete moundmakers covenant
>go to invade
>3 phantoms
>decide to try to bait them into the little lightning spear mobs
>no chance, the 4 player party is not risking it (for whatever reason)
>host uses seed of a tree giant
>kill one careless phantom regardless
>all of them sprint back to the bonfire
>another phantom is being summoned
>same guy I kill is back
>darkmoon invades
>5 on 1 plus seed of a tree giant
>ran out of estus since i have half to begin with
>get btfo

i get it, from. ill never do pvp again.
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>>172541184
This is the funniest things I've read in a while.

>all the serious replies
Most people here are fucking retarded.
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>>172541184
>want to make fusion reactor
>materials can't handle the heat and melt
>but wait
>MAKE IT OUT OF SNOW

Genius.
>>
CEfags is swapping items the same as spawning items?
>>
>>172538264
>tfw fist weapons are irredeemably shit in 3
>tfw remembering falling in love with dual-caestus in 2
>why did they have to fuck them so much?
>factually the same moveset
>but faster
>and with a 4 second unbreakable hyperarmour
????????????????????????????
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>it's a host won't skip the first Friede cutscene because he has to take screenshots of his ugly waifu episode
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>>172541848
Most people don't care about pvp. A lot of others get overconfident when it's a 3v1. You also get a defense boost as a Spear.

40 ornaments, only died twice so far.
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>>172542034
it's easier
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>>172541990
You can get dragon souls though...
Though I agree they probably weren't alive in the traditional sense, what with being unchanging and all.
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>>172542072
cry more, bitch
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>>172542106
Won't that give you invalid game data?
I can't see spawning anywhere in Phokz's table
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HAHAHAHA IT ONLY TOOK 50+ ATTEMPTS
MY COFFEE GOT COLD
THAT'S HOW LONG I WAS UNDER HIS ASSHOLE WITH ZERO ESTUS
FUCK NGMAX SPONGES
>>
>>172541742
Death is the natural consequence of life and nothing can escape it.
You are literally too stupid to comprehend one of the first concepts kids understand about life.
>>172541806
>most likely hollows. Before the first flame appeared, it's said word for word that the 3 first things existed
No, it's not.
>>
How to damage Gael in third phase in melee? He has no openings for my GS
>>
>>172542189
you should be safe if your offline since you drop the thing on the floor and change it before picking it back up, no inventory data fuckery just local area
>>
>>172541684
I don't think Velka would have a child with anyone. If she couldn't grant absolution I would say she is most likely just a legend or dead (during the first game).
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someone make me a fire witch cosplay build for pontiff plox
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>>172542189
Phokz is dead and buried.
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>>172542294
get him out of your rolls.
You should be able to get normal swings in after his combos are done too.
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>>172541990
>they're explicitly state to have existed before life was a thing

The only thing said about their existence is that they were around before the Age of Fire, not before "life was a thing". They were pretty much alive, AND immortal.

>"Living" things in dark souls mean they have a soul, that's it.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm stating. Even before the Age of Fire there were souls, not Lord Souls, but the life substance itself.
>>
>>172542294
Every anime flip is an opening.
>>
>seriously debating going str build instead of quality

I can't resist the hammer bros
>>
Why the fuck didn't they add some kind of activity counter for the undead match?
>>172542294
He leaves pretty big openings after his last leap.
>>
Why is Gael hostile if he helped us all along just before?
It doesn't make sense, he could have killed us in the Cathedral chapel.
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People all over DLC weapons and stuff
No one talks about how good Dark Hand is now with HA.
Worse yet, I've seen no one use it. It has 0 weight FFS.
>>
>>172542343
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/158930
>>
>>172542367
I'm aware, but his table is still decent
>>
>>172542482
Because you have part of dark soul?
>>
>>172542482
Because hes corrupted by consuming the dark soul was that not clear from the cutscene and his soul description and the gaping hole in his chest and just generally the whole fight?
>>
>>172542217
>Death is the natural consequence of life and nothing can escape it.

Because DISPARITY was created, that don't mean life didn't existed before, kiddo.
>>
>>172542482
He got insane after eating so many delicious dark souls.
>>
>>172542482
TRC happens in future
And Gael's bossfight is even further in future, literally at the end of time
>>
>>172542482
He's lost his mind
>>
>>172542541
I've had people try it on me. Only idiots get caught by it tbdesu
>>
>>172542482
I've seen 2 theories this far.

1. (unlikely)
He's crazy.

2.
The Dark Soul is split among humans, so he has to kill all or nearly all of them. It's unconfirmed whether all humans have a part of the Dark Souls though.
>>
>>172541687
>everybody is now imitating the anon that discovered Desert Slut + Sunless Leggings

I mean, it's a decent-ish fashion, but seriously.
>>
>>172542482
he got corrupted for eating the dark soul

but why does he ask me to give him my dark soul? I ain't got the dark soul, he's got the dark soul
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>>172542454
once you use ledos hammer there is no going back
>that l2+r2 combo in pvp and pve
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>come back after dealing with Gael
>there's a new angel flying about
What's the lore behind this?
>>
>>172542135
The only dragon soul you can get is Sinh's soul and the guardian dragon soul in DS2. The guardian dragon is actually a drake, as stated by the weapons you get from his soul, therefore not an ancient dragon. And sinh's soul doesn't create anything related to the dragon.

The other souls that drop from dragons were given to them, seath drops the bequeathed soul shard, the ancient dragon drops a giant soul and midir drops a soul that's completely dark like manus and he's called the darkeater, it's arguable that it was his soul but it's much more likely that it's a bunch of accumulated dark.
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>>172542560
fuck you
>>
>>172542541
>someone uses dark hand
>walk backwards, maybe throw a bomb

Wooow
Still a shit weapon but you can meme on newfags
>>
>tfw killed the white haired girl after giving her gaels shit

o shit
>>
>>172542689
>>172542689
>everybody is now imitating the anon that discovered Desert Slut + Sunless Leggings
What do you mean? Where was that posted?
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So, uh, beyond maybe getting a "definitive edition" release of Dark Souls 3... It's done. It's really done.

What's next for action RPGs? I mean there have been a few attempts at imitating, but the closest thing to a successful "clone" was Salt and Sanctuary, a 2D indie game. Other than that, we get shit like Lords of the Fallen and Kingdoms of Amalur.

I mean it's not Dark Souls being done which bothers me as much as the genre probably never seeing something this good again. It's like cows went extinct and you just ate the last steak.
>>
>>172542710
Maybe all unkindled have part of dark soul?
>>
CEfags pls answer, will I get BUNNED for changing character name and gender?
>>
>>172542823
Does she drop something?
>>
>>172542718
She's taking in the view from a new angle.
>>
>quality gets nerfed
>suddenly want to make a quality character
Why am I such a contrarian faggot?
>>
>>172542418
>The only thing said about their existence is that they were around before the Age of Fire, not before "life was a thing".
"In the Age of Ancients the world was unformed, shrouded by fog. A land of gray crags, Archtrees and Everlasting Dragons. But then there was Fire and with fire came disparity. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course, light and dark. Then from the dark, They came, and found the Souls of Lords within the flame."

>the world was unformed... a land of Everlasting Dragons
>But then there was Fire and with fire came life and death
>>
>>172542718
woman at the start is kill
>>
>>172542861
From is already developing a new Souls game tho
>>
midir is a bullshit enemy and i dont want to play against him. I don´t know fights against dragons seem boring to me. There is just no good overview and I have no ambitions to beat him. I finished besides that though.

Would it be important to kill him I mean would it be worth it?
>>
Best to worst:

Bosses:
Old Hunters
Ringed City
Artorias of the Abyss
Crown of the Old Iron King
Crown of the Sunken King
Ashes of Ariandel
Crown of the Ivory King

Areas:
Old Hunters
Ringed City
Sunken King
Ivory King
Old Iron King
Ashes of Ariandel
Artorias of the Abyss

Weapons, Spells, and Equipment:
Old Hunters
Ringed City
Ashes of Ariandel
Ivory King
Old Iron King
Sunken King
Artorias of the Abyss

NPCs
Artorias of the Abyss
Ivory King
Ashes of Ariandel
Old Hunters
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>>172542879
do it offline.
maybe, maybe not
>>
>>172542885
no. not even any souls.
>>
>>172542823
She'll be back.
>>
>>172542892
>>172542934
Wait, that's
OH SHIT
>>
>>172542879
yes. What a stupid question.
>>
>>172542878
Regular undead do, unkindled are just ash with ambition.

He's pretty cokoo for cocopuff though.
>>
>>172542968
Holy fuck i think I can fully agree for once
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>>172542604
>>172542673
As I did before.
>>172542606
Haven't beaten him yet.
>>172542636
Okay, this makes sense, but surely he planned to recreate the Dark Soul from the beginning so as much as I understand he didn't attack us I still don't understand why he ACTIVELY HELPED us.

And why did he help us reach the land of his precious lady when we could easily hurt her?
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>>172542968
>ringed city has no npcs
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I unironically believe that Miyazaki found the perfect formula for story telling in videogames.

The way a story is told in Dark Souls makes excellent use of videogame elements. Instead of taking control away from the player and forcing him to watch 10 minute long cutscenes, pieces of story are laid around in items or in the environment that the player can explore, and so it all ties back to the gameplay - the focal point of a videogame.
unless some other game did it first

I wish more devs would fuck around with this way of storytelling.
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>anons posting about destroying people as spears with apparently bullshit powers
>the spear I fought was a dumbshit with the quakestone who died in two hits
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>>172542729
Still doesn't explain the soul you can get from the memory from the dead dragon in Freya's arena in DaS2.
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>>172542941
Didn't your mother ever tell you that lying is bad?
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>>172541931
>hip balls
>for fashion
Holy shit dude
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>>172542996
If for some ungodly reason you decide to off her at the start her last words are "perhaps i'll see an angel...."

It's pretty neat.
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I'm so fucking annoyed by dark spells being split between miracles and spells, can't I just have a dark catalyst?
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>>172542729
What about the dragon in the memory?
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>>172543104
If only the lore was actually good past the first game of any series he makes.
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>>172543094
Read his soul's description. He knew he wouldn't come back from Ringed City, because he is no champion. He needed you to pass the pigment to ravioli
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>>172543104
the story is still garbage and worse than 20th century fantasy literature.
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I'm pretty sure the voice actress for the old lady at the start of Dreg Heap is the same as Elizabeth Mushroom in Artorias of the Abyss.
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>>172542628
Yes, it does. Stillness is not life. God is neither dead nor alive.
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>>172542968
Old iron king had way better area than Ringed city.
In fact, I'd go as far as to say that Ringed city had pretty crappy level design.
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>>172542905
>But then there was Fire and with fire came life and death

The actual quote is:
>But then there was Fire and with fire came disparity

Fire created disparity, not life. She is referring to the cycle of life everything is bound because of DISPARITY. Learn to interpret a fucking text, kid.
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>>172543104
Have you ever played snes games?
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>>172543097
I missed Lapp so I didn't feel qualified to say.
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>People think invasions are hard

I invade at SL120 and have a 92% winrate in over 2,000 invasions on PC and PS4. You CANNOT be pure melee, I will tell you that much. My stats are 39 vigor, 14 attunement, 40 endurance, 30 vitality, 34 strength, 18 dexterity and 18 faith. Tears of Denial will keep you from dying to a spell if you run.

I highly recommend carrying high slash defense armor and a good gap closing weapon like Ringed Knight Spear or Millwood Battle Axe. They are also very effective at roll catching. You will want to keep a ring slot free for stoneplate rings, obscuring ring, estus ring or evil eye. I also recommend carrying arstor's spear / executioner's GS in your inventory just so you can abuse the host's seed for your own advantage. You will need the Millwood Greatbow (Lightning / Onislayer) and Shortbow (Poison / Dark) if they refuse to leave the bonfire.

Also remember to use a chime's weapon skill to regen health quickly if you need to run. Having enough intelligence for Chameleon is also optional, but I prefer white branches myself. Remember to have undead hunter charms at the ready for when they try to sip.
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>>172542861
>>172542941
Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition is just a "definitive edition" release. We might get some mob locations remixed and a new end boss and ending à la Aldia, but that's it.
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>>172543046
You don't get banned for changing your name though, I've done it many times.
No idea about gender though
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>>172543104
It's same way like old masters create their paintings. You don't show everything to audience.
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>>172543208
>>172543220
I'm not saying the story is good, but the formula is perfect for videogames.
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>>172539678
>5 minutes of rolling
You are cancer.
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>>172543104
What the fuck, where did this blatant intellectualism come from, dark souls is clearly a game where the story is the backdrop not meant to be paid attention to that allows the action to happen.
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Anyone want to co-op dried fingered Pontiff?
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>>172543220
>worse than 20th century fantasy literature.
name some for example.
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>>172543104
A bunch of other games did that before Souls games. Hell you can at King's Field 4 as an example of by From before they even made the Souls series, and Miyazaki wasn't involved in that at all.
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>Ledo's hammer
I love this shit. The lore bit about him being buttbuddies with Havel kinda came out of nowhere tho, what's the point? I'd rather have another last fight against habbel at world's end than just one last side mention
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>>172543230
>Elizabeth: voiced by Joanna Wakes
>Stone-humped Hag: voiced by Sian Thomas
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Don't want to get spoiled beyond how much I already have (final boss, big twist in the second half, layers of d***** etc) but hows the story and lore in Bloodborne?
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>>172543402
3ds?
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WHERE IS MY PUS OF MAN OF THE DEEP ABYSS TRANSFORMATION
WHERE, ZULLIE
WHERE IS THE HAROLD LEGION HEAD THING
I NEED ANSWERS
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>>172543468
hey I was right
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>>172543104
I love it too

>game has shit story
>can completely ignore it and lose no time with plot
>fought artorias without knowing who he was until someone told me
>enjoyment of the actual fun parts like levels, weapons and multiplayer isn't hurt at all
>laugh when dlc comes out and everyone complains about no Velka without even knowing why she's so important
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>>172542367
What happened to him? I know some ponyfag shut down the CE forums for DS3, but was that it?
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Why is the White Preacher Head so perfect?
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>>172543319
Not even, it's just a fucking bundle.

There's nothing left. And you can bet your ass that if Bloodborne II is a thing, it'll be PS4 exclusive.
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>>172543402
>>172543479
peecee
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>>172543261
>unironically playing pvp
>unironically sticking to sl120
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>>172542861
you think from is really gonna end the souls gravy train?
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>>172543508
I don't know. My guess is that when the dev of CE cleared the forum because of something to do with law enforcement phokz decided to dip. I don't blame him, nearly everyone just begs for another table and he's been doing this shit for a long time now.
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>>172541687
valorheart and a whip on the hip for 10/10 wonderwoman cosplay
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>>172542968
Ringed City has trash areas
>two Swamps
>that long ass staircase with enemy spam
>that filler catacomb
>two fucking Swamps
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>>172543446
Colours of Magic
The Dungeon
Lord of the Rings
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Is there a way to get access to the Arena without AoA DLC? I have TRC but not AoA, and I know there's two new arena maps from TRC.
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>>172543456
>Implying dragonslayer armor wasn't Havel's actual armor
Hah. Your theory level is low...
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>>172543469
Oh my fuck it makes me cum it's so good
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>>172543508
Bethesda threatened with a lawsuit or something so he just said fuck it, closed the forums, and told people to distribute among themselves if they wanted to.

>>172543537
>those hips
the fairest maiden
why's she so fucking perfect
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>>172543094
His original plan was just stealing the pygmy lords' blood and getting out of there, but their blood had dried up forcing him to take the Dark Soul himself to make his blood the Blood of the Dark Soul. He also needed you to to create flame in Ariandel, so he couldn't have killed you then.
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>>172543261
Patrician taste, anon.
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>>172543514
Because fear not the Dark, my friend
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>>172543537
>playing pve
>in game without pve content
What are you doing? Farming titanite?
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>>172543608
Discworld is pretty good though.
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What is the hardest boss in DS3 SL1 run?
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>>172543608
never heard of colours of the magic or the dungeon, but dark souls' storytelling is far better than lord of the rings

you can tell miyazaki put a lot more effort into worldbuilding, he actually loved the masterpiece he was creating

lord of the rings is just generic fantasy with elves, orcs and dwarves, it's not creative and whoever wrote it probably didn't care about it
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>they wasted money on shit additional arenas that will be abandoned 1 month after release instead of a proper ending and pic related
fuck PvPfags
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>>172543643
>Bethesda threatened with a lawsuit
>So he shuts down the forums
Unless he's in South Korea he's fucking retarded. But what do you expect from a ponyfag really?
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>>172543635
>his dialogue when wearing the church garb
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SPIN2WIN IT BABY
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>>172543679
having fun with different builds on bosses.
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ledo set confirmed as cut and shelved for good
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>>172543117
Same except mine used splitleaf greatsword
I was also able to kill the first painting guardian before he showed up. And then killed him before second guardian showed up. Was kinda dissapointed
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>>172543608
What so good about Colours of Magic story?
>Lord of the Rings
bait
>>
The next Soulsborne better be in a futuristic setting.
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>>172543793
Sorry, can't hear you, too busy being a Spear you retarded PvE shitter
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>>172543781
>dark souls' storytelling is far better than lord of the rings
No it's not?
Have you literally just watched the movies?
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>>172543829
Fucking stop. They've been making the same game since 1994.
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Eat shit
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>>172543793
wut
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>>172543781
>I dont understand 2/3 of your arguments but assuming on the loveless hollywood trilogy I watched once Memezaki has created a more detailed universe than Tolkien

"no"
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>>172543817
>lore issues and vision

Wow. Would've thought it was due to just programming issues/time constraints. Who cares at this point?
>>
STR > STR/DEX > DEX > STR/FTH > STR/INT > DEX/INT > DEX/FTH > FTH/INT > INT > FTH
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So what was so bad about the insta invasions of DaS2?
It takes forfuckingever to make use of the new covenant. Can't imagine it being alive in a week or so.
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>>172543469
An excellent take on Lovecraft-eque horror.

I personally prefer the wordl of the Soul games, but I feel BB might actually be the better story.
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>>172543608
>Lord of the Rings
this is bait, right?
nobody would actually think peter jackson is a better writer than miyazaki
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>>172543261
you left out the part where you teleported behind the 3 phantoms back
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>>172543817
What is Ledo's set anyway? Wouldn't it just be silver knight armor?
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>>172543239
It was kind of gimmicky at times and might be annoying on replay, but I found it frequently memorable (especially the adjudicators and the angels). I also thought it was visually beautiful or striking pretty consistently.

There was at least one part where it was nearly inconceivable to fight everything, and some bullshit encounters, but I thought it was great.

Brume Tower is well designed, but the stock hollows that come out of the snow are really boring. Also, the co op area is indefensible.

>>172543596
The swamps don't slow you down so they're not too bad. I actually liked the second one, I ran past the bonfire with a ton of souls and sprinted all the way to the Dragonslayer Armor, which then killed me at 70% in one hit. Also, the second looked really cool with the adjudicator walking around and the cathedral sunken into the muck.

I don't know what staircase you're talking about, which is weird because I think I was pretty completionist. Could you be more specific?

Catacomb was shit I'll grant, but it was like eight minutes.
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>>172543817
>lore issues
FUCKING HOW? IT'S ESTABLISHED THAT LEDO WAS A SILVER KNIGHT WHO WAS A BIT OFF HIS ROCKER, IT IS NOT THAT GREAT OF A STRETCH TO IMAGINE HE RE-DECORATED HIS ARMOR AFTER FUCKING OFF TO THE RINGED CITY
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>>172543817
>cause lore issues
>after everything else in the DLC
Are these niggers for real?
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>>172543829
>he doesn't want neolithic souls with dinos
>he didn't go for a Rock Level 75 triceratops greatshield build
>>
anyone willing to help me transfer some gear?
PC. Highwall of lothric, pass: muleman
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>>172543897
It is. LotR story is joke.
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>>172543817
>lore
now that's some shitty justification to say "I don't want to"
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How do I get to that item under the bridge where you can fight the the dragon, knocking him down?
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>>172543968
genuine one, anon.
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>>172543801
Phffft, totally told him the truth
Fuck the Curch.
All hail the Undying Queeen
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>>172543801
Tell me good hunter
Are my something the honorable Spartans I had hoped they would be?
>LIE BECAUSE YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT
ahh, something something I did not suffer such denigration for nothing
>eternal snooze
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>>172543781
>you can tell miyazaki put a lot more effort into worldbuilding,
but all the lore you're reading is coming from fan videos, you can't seriously believe that 'vague item description' takes more effort than a fleshed out story can you?
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Are the demon princes considered hard on /dsg/ ? I'm still stuck on them. ng+2
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>>172544046
Yeah, but Souls is a bigger joke
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>>172543496
>WHERE IS MY PUS OF MAN OF THE DEEP ABYSS TRANSFORMATION
there isn't
>WHERE, ZULLIE
who?
>WHERE IS THE HAROLD LEGION HEAD THING
it's not an actual item, can't get it unless you hack
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>>172544046
I know you're baiting, I just didn't bother reading the rest of the comment I was replying to at first.
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>>172543781
I know this is tongue in buttcheek, but dastards are really this delusional.
I fucking hate miyasuckers, damn.
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>>172543469
Amazing.
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>>172544064
There's a path leading down at the start of the bridge
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>>172544112
All the bosses in this DLC aside from the PvP one is challenging.
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>>172544064
I think from the lowest layer of the Shared Grave.

Shira tells you how to get to Midir.
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Why do people struggle against Midir?

He is literally the easiest boss in the DLC
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>>172544101
So what do you propose?
>We have no idea about the lore, just write vague shit and but contradict other vague shit
?
>>
Is pvp alive and where to get it?
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>>172543778
Toss up between Aldrich, Dancer, Nameless King and Friede.
>>
>Disparage this message
>Both thumbs up and down go to Appraisals
>No way to see if a message is bad or good
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>>172544087
VILEKEKS OUT
OOOOOOOOUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
PURGE THIS THREAD
THERE'S A VERMIN AMONG US
C R U S H
V
E
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M
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>>172543778
Probably Midir
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>>172544087
>actual, canonic cuckolds friendzoned by their queen that collect sperm mixed with blood from other hunters
why, do you have no shame?
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>>172542454
Quality has been nerfed into the ground, str is new meta because fromsoft is retarded.
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>touched the back wall of Wolnir's boss room
Always been my secret goal every NG, glad I finally accomplished it
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Did he finished the DLC part?
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>>172544064
Isn't that just the hole that you run into to avoid his fire breath? The one with that asshole pygmy that tries to push you out?

>>172544112
They're mediocre. The trick to beating them is watching their ember status in the first phase, and defeating the correct one to progress to the second phase.
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>>172544216
k.jpg
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>>172544216
what the fucking hell
>>
>>172543817
Bullshit.
Give it 3 months and we have the same cashgrab GOTY DLC as Prepare to casual and scholar of the four phantoms.
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>>172544046
This.

>story literally can be resolved in the first 50 pages by using an eagle to fly into mordor but instead we spend 5 billion pages reading about a midget walk around the world
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>>172544112
I got really frustrated with them because I can't stand multiple bosses in one encounter. Anyway, just keep the glowing one away from the burnt out one and attack its legs. If they're both glowing, run away until one burns out. The real challenge for me was the prince himself and my only advice is to fucking shove yourself up his ass at all times. As soon as he leaps away you chase him down.
>>
So the final boss wasn't some epic dark soul god you had to fight, but just some random dude with dark soul paint.

even at the end DS3 was nothing but a cocktease.
>>
>>172544216
What the fuck
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>>172544216
...did you cheat or does Midir have a secret weakness to that axe?
>>
>>172544112
I had more trouble with the demon princes than with midir and gael
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>>172544216
How?
>>172544225
Dancer is not that hard when you stick your face into her butt 24/7.
Aldrich is next for me, so let's see.
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>>172544352
>dragonslayer axe
>deals big damage to dragon

Really makes you think
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>>172537374
>darkmoons and sentinels on stand-by
In the spear boss fight?
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>>172543829
>Takes place entirely in giant spaceships in a completely starless space
>At some point we learn that it is actually a dark ocean.
>Game actually takes place in Aldrich's Age of Deep Seas
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>>172544216
>be dragon
>get slayed by dragonslayers
Every time
>>
What even is suposed to fit with this
>>
>>172544216
Did the weapon art hit Midir multiple time?!
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>>172543469
Ten times more interesting than Dark Souls lore, at least.
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>>172544458
It's called cheating you fucking idiot
>>
>>172539216

The first flame isnt the same flame that spawned the souls, its a seal gwyn created to contain the dark soul. Its not a natural thing.
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>>172544260
My queen will one day marry me after I've proven myself by bringing her enough blood dregs for her to get pregnant

What about you, execucktioner? you fight using a fucking wheel
A FUCKING WHEEL
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>>172544284
>>172544334
I haven't been paying attention to the embers. Thanks for the tip.
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>>172544352
>cant into /dragonslaying/
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>>172544408
It's why I'm not sure he's not just cheating. It would totally be something Miyazaki would do. Put in a boss with a trillion health whom everyone is calling a sword sponge without putting in a single hint that the weapon you can get from a soul transposition from another boss actually one shots it.
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>>172535510
wtf fits with this even, almost nothing
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>>172544408
>dragonslayer spear
>ticks him for 200 damage
really makes you think
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>>172544225
Yah I'd imagine those 3 except nk. He is easier to dodge but he hits much harder which doesn't matter at that sl.

Does a sl 1 even have enough stamina to outrun Aldrich's lightning showers?
>>
SHREK'S OFFICIAL SWAMP RATING
BLIGHTTOWN > VALLEY OF DEFILEMENT 2 > RINGED CITY STREETS > TOWER OF LATRIA 2 > DREG HEAP > FARRON KEEP > SMOULDERING LAKE > PROFANED CAPITAL TOXIC SWAMP

FUCK WHY DARK SOULS 3 HAVE SO MANY SWAMPS
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After so many hours i finally done it
Hold me dsg
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>>172544597
it's too damn big
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>>172544520
>literally giving her somebody else's sperm
L M A O
M
A
O
>>
Has anyone else had the issue where there's a blocked fog gate before Midir?
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>>172544260
>Best outfits
>Most stylish weapons
>Best homebase
>Getting to watch the common plebs turn into furballs
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So am I right to sum up the DLC with "Gwyn fucked it up for everyone else"?

I'm honestly kind of confused.
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>>172544597
Goes with everything
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>>172544616
>Does a sl 1 even have enough stamina to outrun Aldrich's lightning showers?
Well, you dont have to outrun in phase 1.
Probably not.
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>>172544597
Why the fuck do you expect things to fit with that atrocity in the first place?
That's kind of its feature.
>>
>Have a friend who's one of those "You should be able to cheese every boss with 3 summons without chance of being invaded" plebs
>have had arguments about it with him in the past, but we both agree to disagree about it
>I still secretly think he's just a giant shitter who's mad that he can't kill invaders, but I don't say it
I can already imagine the tears when he reaches the Spear fight. Going to be fucking delcious, I can't wait
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Someone want to critique this for me? I could probably shave off the K***ht Ring for another utility ring if I up the build to 125.
>>
>>172544645
too bad youre a faggie french
>>
I thought Gael was much easier than Friede, which I consider a good thing.
>>
I can finally be the slut I've always wanted to be
>>
>>172544597
Cornyx Garb, deserter armor.
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>>172544597
Good with sorcerer robes. Try some robed stuff and use dark magic.
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>>172544520
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>>172538398
Working as intended. It's for people who can't git gud enough to kill Darkeater or find him.
>>
>>172544662
someone was invading you but couldn't get through
>>
I rather carry one weapon but what would be better bleed weapon? A blood barbed sword or a blood reinforced club. I'd only be using this as backup of sorts against people who always keep shield up, and chasing down runners, rollers since it's hard to roll catch with ugs.
>>
>>172544597
it's supposed to be a silly mask for laughs you fucking autist
>>
>>172544730
If i were you i'd go to 125 then swap Knight for Life+3
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>>172544730
Seems fine.
>>
Best talisman/chime for pve besides Yorshka's?
>>
>>172544701
he cucked the pygmys in the ringed city but other than that hes aight
>>
>>172544662
>>172544774
No, you gotta push him off the bridge.
>>
>>172544662
Did you bully him at the Shared Grave?
>>
>>172544662
Yeah, you have to kill him while he's standing at the bridge breathing fire.
>>
Is Clorathy ring still useless?
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>>172537041
heavy Harald Curved Greatsword
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>>172544645
>french name translates to "Midir, Flail of the Dark"
>FLAIL
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>Final boss is some random cock sucker from a previous DLC
that's what happens when you work on 3 games at the same time.
LOW
FUCKING
BUDGET
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can you get good harass damage from farron dart without investing a ton or is it better to go crossbow
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>>172544895
i hope not im using it +3
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Ready to have your mind blown?

Remember DaS2 and the ashen mist heart?

the main game was a dream, taking place within the memory of filianore. The gods knew about the memory which is why they protect filianore. When you wake her up, it shatters reality and destroys the memory.

the desert is the real world, that the PC exists in, and it's been dead and completely unsalvageable
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>>172544112
Really? I don't understand how people have trouble with this boss. I beat him first try at sl 80 but only ng.

I just bleed them out into multiple riposte with carthus rouge and bandit knife. Every few hits triggers bleed for massive damage.
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>>172544697
>Most stylish weapons
Blood powered swords is a lame and old cliche.
>Best homebase
The snow textures suck, even AoA has better looking snow despite DaS3 looking worse than BB in general.
>Getting to watch the common plebs turn into furballs
You mean they get to polish their furniture for all eternity while muttering "wewuz pthumerians n shiet"?
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>>172544958
As in scourge of the dark, friend.
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>>172544895
It's 3 times more useless.

>>172544946
>Curved Greatsword
>Not Exile's
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>>172544989
wow anon absolutely mindblowing
got a single fact to back that up though?
I doubt you do besides your fanfic.
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>>172544597
Goes with literally everything. I love it
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>Fighting Midir as Ornstien Cosplay while summoning a friend who cosplays as Dragonslayer Armor

Truly no greater feeling.
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Was the White Preacher NPC Miyazaki's self insert? The "Let the feast begin" shit is clearly him commenting that he would finally be done with this shit and feast on the asshurt of countless fanboys and lorefaggots who thought they'd actually get "answers" to questions that dont even exist.
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>>172544745

Gael is easy enough to be a mid-game boss. The only thing that gives people trouble is that his cape punishes poor dodge timing.
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>>172545025
Fuck you. It says flail. NOW GIVE IT TO ME.
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>>172538686
>egs gets a buff despite being decent enough
>your weaponfu is now tainted
Kill me.
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NAKHUYA MIYAZAKI SO CAME TO?

Explain, please? Fucking such a DLC do?
This is the end of the series, it could be put, if not a point, then an ellipsis.
And what a good background - we get to the end of the world, touch Felianors, watch this crocheted cutscene, AND FOREVER STAY IN THIS UNDERGROUND WORLD! As if all that was before it - just an illusion, a dream! How cute, fucking. Just imagine. And in the midst of this hopelessness, Gael ... Just as lost as we are.

AND EVERYTHING. Just leave the player there, without credits, etc., just throw in this desert. It's fucking cute. You can even think of even, but the essence in general is clear: it was necessary to throw the player in this place. There it is fucking, the whole essence of the series is felt there.

BUT NO, FUCK, NO! We just go to the Temple of Fire where everything is the same as before, where everyone fucked up. Fuck, yes after finding Souls of Sinder, when the sun closes the sign - IN THE COMMON WORLD, THE NEXT DOES NOT CHANGE! Well, do you fucking at least that, you fucking mouth. In the Bloodburn the red moon changed the state of the world - THIS ATMOSPHERE!
> Behold! A paleblood sky!
Such a soul.

Fuck, Miyazaki, you're so pissed off, fucked in the mouth, what happened? What the fuck happened?

We pass the last DLC, we do not find the answers (we find only new questions that are already fucked), the ebashim of the same final boss and everything, everything is the same as for the DLC.

This is not the end of the series, it's the nail in the coffin lid.
And the trust in Miyazaki is simply lost.

Even, damn, zaspoylerit from the DLC simply nothing.

From Russia with love.
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>>172544745
Friede is the hardest boss in DS3 so that's not really surprising.
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>>172544865
Depends on your Fai/Int.

If you're 40/40 on both then Sunless Talisman actually has higher spell buff IIRC.

Otherwise I'd use Saint-tree Bellvine. Filianore seems to be more of a co-op Chime.
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>>172545131
>Gael is easy enough to be a mid-game boss
Nah, not for normal people. He's harder than Soul of Cinder.
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>>172544959
"Litteraly who" shitposts are better than "LE DS1 REFERENCE RECYCLE CALBACKS MEMEZAKI" shitpsots.
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>>172543925
Ashes of ariandel was short on the pve because they added a pvp arena. Considering no-one will care about the pvp soon it's a little saddening.
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>>172544703
Yeah i meant phase 1. I actually burned him down the easiest on my new pyro character. I think i killed him in anhri's world before he hit phase 2 with vestiges but i can't imagine doing that on an sl 1.
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I am largely unspoiled, will only get to play the DLC on Saturday.

I have just one curiosity. Can someone tell me how hard each boss is? Compare it to a boss from the main game if necessary.
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>>172545147
As in he is the Scourge/Bane/Bad-hing-happening to the Dark.
And yes, he's a big 4u[/spoiler}
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>>172545261
>responding to these shitposts
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>>172545267
>no-one will care about the pvp soon
You say that now but people still play DS1 PvP.
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>>172543781
>lord of the rings is just generic fantasy with elves, orcs and dwarves, it's not creative and whoever wrote it probably didn't care about it

where do you think those tropes came from you silly cunt
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>>172544745
He took me more tries than Midir because I tilted like mad after getting him within one-hit of killing him but dying because I was a bit impatient.
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>there are people in this thread right now who have summoned phantoms to beat the bosses giving and are giving advice on how to beat them.
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F E A S T

E

A

S

T

>not dunking niggers and then doing patches squat on their corps looking like this

brehs
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>>172545281
theyre all harder than soul of cinder except one
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>>172544112
Yes. Harder than any main game boss that's for sure.
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>>172544989
>it was all a dream

these are never creative or interesting they're just really basic.
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>>172545281
Every boss in the DLC is harder than anything in the base game. One of them is harder than any boss in the entire series imo.
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>>172540345
>ice can melt, snow can't
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>>172544730
What is the purpose of this build and why two dragon slayer axes?
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>>172544989
>it was all a dream
Retard.
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>>172545221
I've had less trouble with Friede than Midir so far. Freide is too easy to stagger and Ariandel is too slow to actually be a threat. Midir is fucking Sinh and Kalameet on steroids.
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>>172545371
>there are people in this thread who beat bosses without blindfolds and are giving advice on how to beat them.
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Who is stronger?
Gael or Manus?
>>
man, beating trc solo really makes me want to play through again and solo everything. i tended to pussy out at friede, soul of cinder, and nameless king, but now i feel like i could take them on
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>>172540345
t. Southern Californian
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>>172544131
It's okay to shit on DS but not okay shit on LotR because it's "sacred" book? LotR type fantasy about dark lord of darkness who is very evil somehow better than DS?
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>>172545228
Actually I had 60 Fth in mind.
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>>172545210
>From Russia with love.
Yes, we can tell.
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DS3 has the best bosses in all of Souls

No other Fromsoft game has a number of S rank bosses that high

>Friede
>Champ
>SoC
>Nameless King
>Midir
>Gael
>Pontiff

DS2 only has Alonne and Ivory King
DS1 has OandS, Gwyn, Artorias and Manus
Bloodborne has Maria,Gehrmann, Ludwig and Orphan
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>>172545524
Pretty much, yeah.
>>172545491
Gael.
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Is there more than 3 talking Locusts?
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>>172545491
Manus.

Gael wasn't as hard as people made him out to be.
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>>172545327
No anon you don't understand I don't like the pvp so no-one should like it.

In honest though I don't think adding pvp took away from the pve I think they were just low on ideas but I like to believe
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>>172545281
Boss 1 is 2v1 and feels like Twin Princes with more health
Boss 2 is Old Monk
Boss 3 is like Artorias but has a fuckload of damage resistance
Optional boss is piss easy and the entire fucking general thinks it's an accomplishment even though it's just a fun fight
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>>172545281
First boss is about SoC levels if you take the easy path or Friede if you take the harder path

Second boss varies so wildly you can't min down the powerlevel

Optional boss is fucking ridiculous, it's basically as hard as Orphan of Kos, but bigger, girthier and with flashier attacks.

The final boss of the DLC (Played for the first time on NG+7) is fucking ridiculous
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>>172541184
>Ice is frozen snow and thus can melt
It's way too late to call out your pretend bluff, friendo.
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>>172545319
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>>172545556
>Nameless King
Even Abhorrent Beast is harder than that guy.
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>>172545491
One delivers gifts to all the good little boys and girls in the world in ONE night and the other is some cocksucking neet that jobs to some literal who

Not a hard question

>select all images that match: christmas tree
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>>172544895
I think it's not very good unless the weapons you use comsume huge stamina or you're casting huge spells.

I think most melee builds don't need it unless it's for a situational thing like a boss that demands you to be aggressive.
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>>172545617
>midir
>piss easy

have I fallen for bait?
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>>172545556
I'm actually sad that Souls is ending, because AoA and TRC showed me that they've really nailed how to make great boss battles.
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>>172545556
yeah, TRC really brought it home for me, it feels like just what it was missing
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>>172545556
Champ wasn't that great, just a race to off him beore the Pupper arrives.
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>>172545532
Then go for Yorshka's, I know it hurts to kill her but honestly it's kind of for the best.

She's a flightless half-dragon who can't leave her tower prison and is only visited by knights who are incapable of telling her the truth about her brother and the fate of the rest of her family. Her entire existence is just quiet, cold waiting.
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>>172545594
I've only encountered 2, the one at the beginning and the one before the swamp.
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>>172545606
>I don't like the pvp
Invade instead of duelling and be as scummy as possible. That's always fun. Just don't do it past SL60 unless you wanna have a bad time.
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>>172545379
Can i feast on your ass
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>>172544745

I found Gael the hardest in the game.

His cape and random lightning shit always snatched victory from me several times. Plus I'm pretty slow at dodging, and he's faster than Midir and Friede with hits.

He's harder than Orphan too for me (I never had problems with Orphan, unlike heaps you see on the 'net).
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>>172545384
>>172545435
Do people really have that much trouble with Demon Prince? The first phase isn't hard once you figure out the trick behind their aggression, and the second phase in turn becomes pick and choose so that you can force it to use the easy to dodge attack.

>>172545440
No. One is the Dragonslayer Greatshield, the other is the Greataxe.

If that combined with the text in the image doesn't tell you everything you need to know about what the build is about, then I can't help you.
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>>172545705
Pretty sure he's talking about Gundyr.
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>>172545693
I legit didn't find him challenging, the bats were worse to fight imo
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>>172545746
can confirm
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>>172545705

That's a champ, no THE Champ, negro.
>>
"Remember how our swamp levels have been the worst levels in every one of our games? How about we add another one that's shorter but just as shitty in our final piece of souls content ;)"
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>>172545664
It says scourge right there, you fucking snailsucker.
>>
Recommend a big ass sword? I'm tired of AGS
>>
>>172545693

Nah

Just stand in front of his head and dodge his swipes/charge.

Though, if you don't like long fights, it might be hard for you.
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>>172545770
>random

Lightning strikes where the red orbs fall whenever he does tha AoE
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>demon princes has a one hit ko move on the last phase at 25% because fuck you
Because that was a great fucking idea on a boss that's already long as fuck because every enemy in the dlc has 1000% times as many health than AoA enemies

seriously who thought that was a good idea, am i supposed to hide behind rubble during that shit?
>>
BEST TO WORST DLC BOSSES
Ludwig
Gael
Alonne
Artorias
Maria
Manus
Orphan
Demons
Sinh
Fume Knight
Aava
Elana
Friede
Ivory King
Sanctuary Guardian
Midir
Champion's Gravetender
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OYYY
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>>172545850
It's like pottery, it rhymes
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>>172545776
Demon Prince would be easy if he didn't have that massive health pool. It's a war of attrition. If you're lucky you don't run out of estus, if you're not, you're fucked.
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>>172545556
Base game DS3 already had the best boss cast out of all the Souls games. DLC only made it better.
>>
>create a new character in order to PvP in the DLC
>fight Shira
>suddenly want to turn the build into Shira cosplay

welp
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>>172545897
not that guy, but holy shit, i didn't even notice that

oh well, i beat him anyways. just got gud at dodging all his other stuff so that a lightning strike or two didn't really take too much away
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>>172545915
You forgot the best boss in all the Souls series, Kalameet.
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>>172541184
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>>172545415
>>172545465

Theres a difference between an irl dream and a dark souls memory of the dead you dips, did you even pay attention to das2? Entering the memories of the dead allows you to change the past.
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>>172544701
Not really. He was rightfully afraid of humans so he kept them on a short leash. Who knows what would've happened without ringed seal.
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>>172545897
That was a neat mechanic but I hated how it cluttered the screen.
>>
I really want to like lightning arrow for pvp but it's just a worse soul spear that can have hyper armor. And there's no reason to trade with it if you could just trade with a big weapon for less investment.
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>>172545801
>>172545835
Ah, that makes more sense.
Carry on then.
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>>172545694
>good bosses
>npc invader with 200% scaled wolf mob
>piss easy scythe lady who turns into ornstein and smough and then maria
>old monk 2.0

3/6 of the dlc are good bosses
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>>172545915
Graverobber and co > all
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Welp, the age of man surely is full of hope and prosperity.

Link that flame, Souls niggers!
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So what's the significance of the painting? Why did both DLCs and pretty much the end of the franchise focus so much on it?

Is the world so fucked that the only way for the rest of the living to carry on is through the paintings?
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>>172545975
Yep. Gywn was bro enough to make sure that Lightning would wreck any leaking Dark Soul and scourge it from the earth.
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>>172545371
Does it count if you summon the npc? I figured you are supposed to if the boss is trying to 2v1 you like twins or freide
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>>172543446
Are you implying that 100 years worth of fantasy writing was all bad? Please be b8
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>>172545556
You're not lying. I don't think there's a single boss fight that's downright shitty.
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>>172545984
Oh yeah I did.

Slot him in under Aava
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>>172546087
that's a withering flame, not an age of man, retard
kys gwyn apologist
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>>172545915
>Sihn better than midir
No
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Uh, sorry about braking your egg
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GUYS IF YOU GO IN DARK SOULS 2 TO THE NASHANDRA PAINTING THAT CURSES YOU, THERE IS NEW DIALOGUE
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>>172545371
Of course I do. My advide is summon phantoms.
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>>172545858
FFFFLLLAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIILLLLLL
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>>172546093
yes, the world is fucked and neither the age of dark nor the age of fire can fix it

the only way to escape the cycle is going to a painted world, but then it'll rot eventually and the painted will have to paint a new world once again, so you are trapped in a different cycle
>>
>>172546158
You're right. Age of Man is basically what the locusts were doing in the Ringed City. Just chilling in filth all day. So inspiring
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>>172546087
Linking the Flame doesn't really work anymore.
Usurpation is the one best chance to unfuck the world, even if it's not a great chance.
>>
>>172546180
local knight ruin everything
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>game saves right after you tell Aria your name
what did FromSoft mean by this?
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>No new Yuria dialogue

MIYAZAKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>172546193
this is bullshit but I'm gonna check it out anyway
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>>172540863
Because it's so easily dodged, are you retarded?
>>
>demon prince can instant kill you
Why is this in the game?
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>no Dark Souls game with the lore of the first, the PvP/covenants of the second and the combat/boss quality of the third
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>gives loli Gael's blood
>Loli waiting for Gael return
>everything in fire
THIS IS NOT OKAY
>>
>>172545491
If Gael is so strong then why did he beg us for help to deal with Friede?
>>
>>172545694
They already showed that in the main game.
>>
>>172546326
Prepare to die™
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>>172545930
His health pool didn't feel that big to me, and I beat him on NG+ on the third try.

Though granted, I was using a Black K***ht weapon, so that may have factored into things.
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>>172546193
This would be a good troll if anyone cared enough about Dark Souls 2 to check that out.
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>>172546337
He got swole in the meantime.
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>>172540260
The Exile Greatsword is INSANE right now. Vordt's is also great. Other non fotm str weapons include the cathedral knight shit, THE WALL, the Spiked Mace and as always Yhorm's and the Great Club
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>Why does everyone think that Gael is going to have multiple phases you all are retarded
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>>172546326
>end up getting the demon prince with the onehit kill meteor spam
>he casts it twice
>didn't die
>it was my first attempt

It feels like i missed out.
Atleast i got buttfucked by Midir and Gael quite heavily.
>>
>>172546331
You could read books you loser
>>
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/158951

Am I doing this right?
I've been stealing ideas over the past few days and this is what I've been attempting the DLC with (stuck on demons).
Whoever said snap freeze melts bosses lied to me. It does dick all.

What would you change /dsg/?
>>
>>172545491
Assuming that humanity's grown weaker over time, I'd argue that Manus is far stronger on account of how early in time Oolacile's ruin took place.
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>>172546331
>no dark souls remaster

just kill me in my sleep senpai.
>>
>>172541448
>I never bothered to research it
THEN WHY MAKE THIS SHIT YOU RETARD?
>>
>>172546372
>dark souls 2.gif
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>>172546295
Why would there be? The core quest is still there and Ringed City is a detour, not a new ending.

Your main goal as the Lord of Hollows is to usurp the flame for your own means, and not rekindle or snuff it out.
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GOD DAMN IT HOW DO I DO MIRACLES IN 3

THEY DON'T DO ANY DAMAGE
HOSTS HAVE 15 FUCKING SIPS AND I GET LESS LIFE WHAT THE FUCK

WHAT IS THE BUILD TO MAKE THIS WORK
>>
>>172546326
Demon Princes oneshot less often than Midir
>>
>No extra thicc goddess boss
fuck you
>>
>>172546158
Nigger the age of man HAS ALREADY BEGAN in DaS3, the actual ringed city is in the FUTURE.

Gwyn was right all along.

People who don't link the flame are literally the niggers of Souls.

>>172546256
It does, it really depends on the power of the souls the MC collects. As long as you have a soul power close to that of Gwyn then you can safely restore the world with a new cycle with your sacrifice.
>>
>>172535510
Just got DSII:SotFS with PSNow. First time playing a console game in a long time.

How do I Git Gud?
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>2017
>still no starter character with no allocated stats
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>>172546326
Try fighting him on NG+ and beyond, I'm pretty sure his grab attack will instantly end you if you're not at 39 Vigor and fully healed, while not Embered.
>>
>>172546337
In P1 he's superpowered by the Dark Soul and in P2 and 3 he's overtaken by it.

That's why he whimpers and cries during the fight
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>>172546486
They would fuck it up.
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>oro gets twin gs first kill
>10 attempts with 430 item disc and still no drop
>>
Twinned Greatswords is pure cancer

Everyone uses them, literally everyone i meet. In all fightclubs, all ganks are 4 guys with twinned GS, every invasion is twinned GS, every boss summon

its absurd
>>
>wanna do NG+ Friede to get to the DLC
>several times I make it to the second stage
>each time I try to poison her, but it never works, no matter how much I keep her in the cloud
>"Well, maybe they patched a really high resistance in"
>after she's dead I warp back to Firelink to reorganize my spells
>realize I used "Acid surge" on her and not "Toxic mist"
In my defense, I haven't played since I Ariandel came out...
>>
>>172546592
You need 60 Faith minimum to make miracles work and the poor tracking and roll spam guarantees you're fucked when it comes to hitting people with them, so just go use Dragonslayer Swordspear and Lightning Stake for all your miracle needs.
>>
>>172546445
how do you avoid the one hit kill meteor
>>
does anyone have that pic of dark souls 3 boss tier list?
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>>172546701
Stop playing at meta SL.
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>>172546701
Because theyre overpowered as shit and the L1 moves have way too much hyper armor.
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>>172546701
dodge+harald GS or Gael WA
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>You lack the license for this DLC
That's...that's just not accurate.
>>
>>172546591
>Your main goal as the Lord of Hollows is to usurp the flame for your own means, and not rekindle or snuff it out.
Jokes on you, I was only pretending to be the lord of Hollows, I intended to link the fire all along lol.
>>
>>172545439
ICE CAN'T MELT SNOW FAGGOT
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>>172546653
>the actual ringed city is in the FUTURE.
the ringed city is frozen in time because of Filianore you fucking retard
it's not the future until you kill her
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>>172546697
Wait.
Is the twin GS a random drop?

I got it first try as well and so did my friend. I assumed the church ringed knight always drops it after his first death.
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>>172546239

Gwyn weakened the Pygmies so that they couldn't master the Abyss like they once did.
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>>172546653
>You just need soul power comparbale to Gwyn
Problem's solved, you guys
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>>172535580
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>>172546641
>tfw you will never complain about her thigh crush grab attack or boob lasers
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Anybody wanna coop Gael with me on PS4 password will be slave
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New thread:

>>172546802

>>172546802
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>>172546684
a man can dream.
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>>172543259
>I missed Lapp
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>>172546656
Keep your equip load % low for longer distance rolls.

Don't get caught fighting multiple mobs, the stunlock in DaS2 is cancer.

Level Adaptability.

Other than that, do whatever floats your boat. Casting is among the best, most fun and most well-balanced in the franchise, unless you roll Faith.
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>>172546814
Dropped first try for me too
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>>172546775
>Dodge a weapon combo that hits 12 times all around you and tracks your target and only costs 3/4ths of their stamina.

Only possible way I can see to reliably beat them is charged R2s to knock them out of their poise, most are stupid enough to try and power through everything.
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>>172546701
>see guy with twin gs
>unzip avelyn
>kite him to death
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>>172546697
Isn't it a 100% drop?
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>>172546738
The first time i was under him and simply rolled around

The second time i was far away and rolled around as well though that nearly killed me.
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>>172546765
they start popping at at fucking 90
what should i do, play at SL 30? sure gonna get action in the DLC below sl 100 lol
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>>172546948
I do 20-60 and I rarely see them at all. I did the DLC at 60 and got invaded twice + the boss fight.
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>>172546814
>>172546913
Yeah nm i fucken missed it dropping somehow.
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>>172544125
>>WHERE, ZULLIE
>who?
Do you really not know our Lady and Saviour, Zullie the Witch?
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>>172546656
>How do I Git Gud?
You level agility.
>>172546808
>the actual ringed city
>actual
It's like you can't even see the difference in appearance between the two.
>>172546839
When Gwyn linked the fire he already split his original soul with the 4 kings, seath (huge chunks, big enough for them to be considered lords) and all the other beings (small bits).
I'd say it's feasible.
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>>172546592
I think its only for ganking or co-op if you want to spam miracles and not hit people with lothric greatswords.

You basically just play support with heals and some ranged spears or arrows here and there.

It can also destroy pve bosses that are weak to either lightning or bleed.
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So, is The Ringed City supposed to be Drangleic?
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>>172547251
You can believe that if you want to
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>>172547251
No
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How do I git gud with the UGS's that have vertical attacks? The second R1 hasn't served me well in PVE
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>>172547120
nope
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>>172543793
that honestly looks more like a concept render if anything. knowing from performance would be a slideshow.
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>>172547337
One-hand them or switch to a horizontal UGS.
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>>172547158
>When Gwyn linked the fire he already split his original soul with the 4 kings, seath (huge chunks, big enough for them to be considered lords) and all the other beings (small bits).

Yeah, and it stalled the Dark for what, a couple of centuries?
By the time DaS3 rolls around it's incresingly clear that there are no candidates strong enough to restore anything, the world is fucking coming apart at the seams.
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>>172546445
>end up getting the demon prince with the onehit kill meteor spam

Wait there's more than one different 2nd phase? I killed him on my 1st try so i only saw one.

I guess that would explain when I tried farming him for co-op I sometimes saw different moves like the laser.
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>>172547478
And? Even if that was true it's still better than a barren, desolated wasteland.
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>>172547302

I mean, it's the most believable to me fitting the whole "Kingdoms fall and rise." and then I thought back on the item "Ashen Mist Heart."
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>>172543808
Man, I love that thing. It's the only spin that feels JUST RIGHT
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>>172547635
The Usurpation might give you the power to change it though.
All that linking the flame (while noble and all) does is drag out the process. So does letting the Flame fade.
Usurpation is the only way to break the cycle, for better or worse.
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>Guy R1's me.
>Lose 60% Health.
>It Combos
>I die.

Thanks FROM. Exile GS went from C to S tier.
Doesn't help his co-op partner was literally stopping in air for 2-3 seconds and taking me down to 10% health
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>>172546326
Hide behind cover when he casts it or beat him up while he's casting to reduce the strength
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This is the worst meta we ever ever had

one single mistake. Just one.

You are dead. I have 1800 hp and he kills me in one combo. You can get out of it because its at least 3 guaranteed stunlocked hits

guess i have to go back being a door shitter
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>>172547827
>>172547478
>Usurpation is the only way to break the cycle
>cycle shit
"Flame fade" supposed to change everything. New beginning with new rules. Why you think it's cycle?
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>>172548091
This might be radical new thinking.
But have you tried not getting hit?
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>>172545915
>Alonne&Artorias better than Orphan&Maria
lmao
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>>172543104
It's also breaks immersion, doesn't make any sense too.
Similar thing was done in TES series, but much better.
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>>172548091
>guaranteed stunlocked hits
No. It's works only in close distance like BKGS combo
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>>172544597
this is the meme mask of DS3
like the father/mother/child öask in DS1 and manikin mask in DS2
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>>172548221
the forward thrust attack has more range than the splitleaf right now. In a place like this you sooner or later are going to hit, he covers nearly 90% of the interior area

And its always a ganksquad so you have faggots sitting in your neck, and one of them WILL hit.
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>>172548091
Have you tried not participating in metafaggotry and just going higher or lower in level?
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It's comforting knowing that regardless of subjective quality, all Souls games are alike in that they are flawed. Bloodborne was probably the closest Miyazaki has come to creating a masterpiece, but being exclusive to the PS4 is ironically what held it back, there is only so much time and money you can put into a project that you know is going to have limited revenue in the long run. I think Sony Japan are a much better partner to Miyazaki than Bandai Namco, but again, the PlayStation market is a limited one in the long run which is telling when you consider how many more copies Dark Souls 3 has sold in comparison to Bloodborne.

So what's stopping DaS3 from being a masterpiece? More than anything, I think it's a case of been there, done that. Coming up with unique ideas must be difficult, especially when you're making the fifth Souls game in a row. I can't speak for the PVP aspect which seems to be the area DaS2 fans take issue with 3, but I think DaS3 has some of the best level design in the series to date. Just look at the geometry that's being rendered, the levels are feel dense with cleverly placed shortcuts and I don't think there's any question that it's the best LOOKING Souls game. The combat feels more satisfying than it ever has, it's just a good feeling game. The only problem I have personally is that it feels unoriginal, though I'm sure you guys could list 100 different reasons why you don't like it. Sorry for the blog post, I just think it's important to remember that none of these games are perfect and I think that's okay because they're still a lot of fun regardless. FromSoftware are still growing as a developer, it wasn't that long ago that they were making obscure PlayStation games like Kuri Kuri Mix.

BB>DaS3>DaS1>DeS (though its my favourite)>DaS2
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Anyone who can gift me Gael's greatsword? I transposed the crossbow myself, what a letdown.
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>>172548547
dude the DLC is fucking dead below 100
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>>172547515
Demon Prince has two versions
It depends on which dies first

One has a onehit killing meteor spam
The other one has a laser that is easily evadeable
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>>172545868
Onyx Blade is a lot of fun
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>>172548749
>everyone's a dual GS metafaggot and I hate it
>but I still want to invade the DLC where everyone's a dual GS metafaggot
Well make a choice then faggot.
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>>172548934
>going for the 800 hp estoc poking meta at sl60
rather kill myself
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>>172549051
>800 hp estoc poking meta at sl60
Proving you've literally never played that bracket.
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>>172545915
>Friede, a boss that's better than Gael, that low
What the fug am I reading
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>>172548596
PC btw
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>>172543251
Fire created disparity in the sense that it created new concepts that are opposed instead of everything being grey and unchanging. It created light and with it dark, it created heat and with it cold, it created life and with it death. Before the fire everything was grey, there was no light or dark, no heat or cold, no life or death. The fire created life by creating disparity. A=B=C, you're arguing that A=B and B=C but A=/=C.
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>>172547827
Usurpation is a lie as much as letting the flame fade is.
Remember that it's Kaathe the one who convinced the sable church to usurp the fire.

Kaathe is the Joker of Dark Souls, to use a poor man's metaphor. He wants to see the world burn.
Frampt lies to you but for a greater good.
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>>172544014
The silver knights were never shown to have any kind of autonomy. The mere existence of Ledo fucks with the lore, why the hell would adding his bitching armor do any more harm ?
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>>172544321
>Ring corrupts everything
>People near the ring don't take long before trying to murder the ring holder
>Let's put the ring holder in the talons of an eagle and make him fly above sharp rocks
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>>172547827
Usurpation is just linking the flame shittily. You don't sacrifice yourself to it, but you extend it's lifespan by carrying it in you. The flame has never been extinguished. The "muh cycles" theory is just headcanon at the moment (and will be forever, as this was the last Souls game)
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>>172549939
why can't you just launch it with an catapult?
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Man Force is fucking bad in darksouls 3. They really couldn't get anything right.
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>>172550654
It's like you WANT a corrupted catapult to kill everyone
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