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Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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Tracer GHOST BUTT Edition

>What's new?
HEROES OF THE STORM 2.0!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpNkFA7gAHI [Embed]
>Cassia, D2 Amazon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZkdtQ1fOZY [Embed]
>2.0 Beta Patch Notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20638783/

>For Azeroth reactivated; get a WoW mount by playing Warcraft Assassins
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532383/

> Two Heads Are Better Than One; get your free Cho'gall (if you haven't already)
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20602241/

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE [Embed] [Embed]
>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20626038/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20649608/
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20649609/


>Hero Rankings, various Statistics, Talent Calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where can I find you autistic NEETs?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

Previous thread: >>172438261
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>>172458775
Should I not play until the game is updated to get the most crates?
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When have we ever been this active
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>Open beta
>Cannot find link anywhere ingame or on website
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>>172458775
>the amount of loot crates lost
>even hero specific crates with a guaranteed epic item
>not to mention the shards to directly buy skins
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>>172459009
how about you find it in the fucking app that you use to start the game in the first place
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>>172458937
Were you planning on getting heroes to 10? If not, I don't think there's a point to waiting.
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>>172458985
>having to create a new thread in less than 4 hours
lmao ded gam
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prime evil diablo is scary
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no unlisted gold discounts
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so what the fuck am i supposed to do with my gold if they remove the gold purchase for masterskins?
i already have all heroes.
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>>172459219
>9999
to what end
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>>172459068
>app
still the battle.net launcher for some. since there are people who probably haven't played in ages.
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>>172459042
They're pretty blatantly telling you to just start a smurf to inflate their player numbers
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>>172459268
Reroll your crates, 1500 per crate.
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Friendly reminder that degeneracy pays off, pic related.
There are 2 sides of the loot crate arguments regarding "verteran" rewards.
If you went all out and got 500 hero level, this is a pathetic recompense.
Or since the scaling was changed and the max hero level isn't capped at 20 anymore, it doesn't matter past the point that new players are able to quickly accumulate loot boxes and POTENTIALLY gain more than your veteran player if there was a race going on.
In the end, none of this actually matters because it's cosmetics and Blizzard doesn't care about anyone's whining. Nearly everyone in here got boned but if you take a gay ass communist perspective on it, you should be happy you are getting crates in the first place.
I'm interested to see what other people's take is on this. You can talk about the other aspects in this patch and how it relates to the declining state of this shitty gaming industry but only your wallet and time dedication will change that.
The core gameplay of the game isn't changing. Whether or not that's for the better I can't tell. New heroes and maps will keep the game going for a while and this new bullshit Overwatch loot crate system will have everyone looking forward to the next shiny shiny.
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>all this content
>prime evil diablo
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>>172459390
ugh what a great use
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So, Cassia and Genju, heh.

WHO THE FUCK IS THE THIRD!
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>>172459387
Yes, I guess I'll have to request a full XP reset actually. At least any stimpak buyers are getting fucked in the ass by their double xp which is just hilarious.
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>>172459527
Maiev
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>>172459403
Id rather them not add all this garbage into the game
The fact blizzard is shitting on me for having well over half the cast level 9+ just makes it sting a bit more
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Do you get to keep Cassia if you buy her with gems when she comes out to Live?
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>>172459613
Squeaky gear gets the oil. I think on the Reddit QA tomorrow, that everyone should moan if you happen to have a reddit account
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>>172459527
kael'tu zad

a kael skin ofc
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>>172458775
Common
Every Player Level that does not award a
Rare or Epic Loot Chest
Rare
Every 5 Player Levels
Epic
Every 25 Player Levels
Hero-Specific
Every 10 Player Levels

Wait...
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>>172459268
>>172459390
Ok, do I spend all my gold on heroes or master skins right now?
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>>172459986
I'd say masters, but that's only if shit you already unlocked has a low chance of being in a chest
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I hate you shallow disgusting cunts.
hots threads always last for days and now we full one every hour just because loot and shit is coming in? You never post here anymore and now you cane back only because they added new shit into the game? FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE, you are a fucking disgrace to all of the loyal gamers and posters here who stuck around through shitty heroes and one new skin per month for years
i hope you die from ass cancer you faggot FOTM fuckers who will leave here a week from now because you adhd riddled autists have a zero attention span.
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>>172459828
>tfw losing 600 crates
>>172459986
I wouldn't.
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>>172460118
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Here's all the new skins in 2.0. (I think.)
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>>172460118
You have to understand, that Silly Alarak's siren call is irresistible
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>>172460248
>Femdiablo
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>>172460248
>sylvanas one is just covered midriff
wtf?
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>>172460118
>people post more when there's more to discuss, film at 11
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>rerolling increase the chances to get good stuff
fucking grubby rerolled an epic skin for a legendayr skin
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>>172459527
D.Va, Kel'Thuzad, Stukov or Mengsk
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>>172460380
gloves, boots, and bow are different as well.

Chen's just adds a hat.
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>>172460380
Current Legion model for Sylvanas.
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how long will it take prime evil diablo sfm porn to happen
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>>172460509
I'm fairly sure that shit already exists
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>>172460509
but Diablo is a dude

don't be gay mang
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>>172460509
Hopefully soon.

I want to see her PURIFIED.
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any news on when they will fix probius fantasy of being a builder instead of a burst mage hero?
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So when are they going to add Omnic Probius?
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>>172460610
She's not currently a dude.
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>can't unlock master skins with gold no more
Is gold absolutely useless now?
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>>172460380
It matches what Metzen wants for Sylvanas because he's a fucking idiot.
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>>172460670
Diablo as an entity is male.

His avatar's sex don't change though.
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>>172459403
I'm chill. I've been arguing with reactionists online a lot.

I don't even know why. I'm excited.
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>>172460706
Metzen doesn't work at Blizzard anymore, desu.
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Anyone have pictures of all the mounts? (Preferably mechanical ones?)
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So what happens to the faggots that spent $100+ on this game? Kek
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>>172460842
Mounts are the same, at least mechanical.

Horses got a bunch of alternates (these are all the alternates + a brown horse like those but with a saddle).

There's a new beast mount, with spikes. That seems to be the only new mount so far.
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>mfw over 6000 games played since closed beta, over 600 account level atm which means over 1200 after 2.0 drops and thousands of void bawxes
>mfw I have no face for this shit
Fucking jews.
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>>172460696
I might as well buy all the heroes once I open all my boxes.
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>>172460973
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>>172460248
Legit always wanted Chen's hat. Gives me good vibes from the Pandaren cinematic trailer.

Why do leaves fall? It is in their nature.
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Which face does she make when she sees your ?
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Will I get shit retroactively.

Like am I going to get a shitton of chest and jewels on my old account once this shit hits live?
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>>172460739
check you priviledge, nephalem
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>>172460739
>Diablo as an entity is masculine

ftfy, he's a demon not a human with genitals so he cant be male.
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>>172460248
>literally everything but femablo is shit
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>>172461160
>tfw nephalem
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>>172461114
I can tell you that you'll be losing one loot crate per total hero level above 70, a hero specific crate for your high level heroes and all of the crafting shards.
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>>172461235
>Male voice
>Male body structure
>Male face (prior to possessing Leah)
>Refereed to as a "He"
>He's not a dude lmao
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>>172460816
He doesn't, but the effects of his desires were still felt in WoW, and this new skin is supposed to be a reflection of her WoW look.
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>>172461278
that's a monkey
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>>172461301
Also all the gems except 1k for acc lvl 5. No gems per 25 levels retroactively.
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What I don't fully understand is how color variations of skins/mounts will work in the new thing. Is it like overshit where they're all completely separate skins and stuff? You have to unlock them individually now? What this about master skins?
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>>172461330
No genitals no dude, sorry tranny-lover.

Masculinity/Femininity are not traits particular to a gender.
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>>172461301
>>172461489
Fucking blizzjews
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>>172461301
Reminder to shave off 64 counts from your total hero level, because hero level 1 isn't worth shit.
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>>172460973
That's a pity.
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>>172461493
Yes.
They will give you all the tints of the heroes you already own, though, same with masters and mounts.
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Okay, so my account level is currently 481 and I just did the math and I would get 76 loot chests (77 if I gain some more levels by the time 2.0 drops)

Question is, should I bitch and moan for those extra 7?
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>>172461523
Fine no genitals.

Then he's not a girl either, ergo he can't be fucked whatsoever.

What now?
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>>172461493
Yes you have to unlock every tint separately.
Master skins are the same (they even cost the same amoun of shards pet tint).
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>>172461396
it's just a new skin to unlock in loot chests. her base skin is still the same with the belly.
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>>172461493
>What I don't fully understand is how color variations of skins/mounts will work in the new thing. Is it like overshit where they're all completely separate skins and stuff? You have to unlock them individually now?
Yes to all of this.
>What this about master skins?
Any tints and master skins you have currently unlocked will automatically unlock all three variations on live.


People may continuously bitch about "lost boxes" but I'm honestly overjoyed at the option to get legendary skins without paying a cent.
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WILL SOMEONE POST THE FEMDIABLO LEWDS ALREADY
GIMME THAT SHINY BUTTHOLE
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>>172461563
I think it's about the same now that the exp requirements per level are lower.

This makes me want to quit playing, doing the daily quests isn't worth more than these rewards, is it?
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>Butcher announcer literally only says "Fresh meat" over and over and chuckles
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>>172460118
t.bronze
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If I buy something in the 2.0 PTR will I keep it when the game goes live?
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>>172461595
What do you mean extra 7? Don't you mean extra 300 common crates, 60 rares and a hero specific crate per every level 9 hero?
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>>172462103
Nope
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>>172462163
Not even with real money?
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>>172460248
is the anub on the featured page (scroll down) not new?
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>>172462207
Real money purchases are disabled on PTR.
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tfw every game will be a costume party from now on
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>>172462305
No they're not.
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>Tauren totems
>F.tauren portait

Fuck's sake when are we getting an actual tauren hero? ETC is at best a mascot for the fanbase.
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I forgot that they don't copy your live account to the PTR. I was ready to open a bunch of loot chest and be said when my good stuff was stuck on PTR ;_;
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Announcer tier list:

Would use:
>Diablo
>Abathur
>Brightwing
>Gazlowe
>Muradin

Honorable mentions:
>Tassadar
>Zeratul
>Arthas
>Falstad
>ETC
>Illidan
>Li Li
>Rehgar
>Nazeebo

Would be good if actually had their original voice:
>Anub

wat:
Murky
Butcher
Stitches

Shit:
>Tychus
>Valla
>Sonya
>Malfurion
>Sgt. Hammer

rest are shit.
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so redpill me on the 2.0 jewery.
how are we veterans getting fucked over now?
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>>172462109
I was doing that based off the cash-in numbers here:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/progression/#cashing-in
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>>172462969
Instead of getting a chest for each hero level (1:1)

we have to go by pic related to get our chests
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>>172463024
Then maybe scroll up to the loot chest section or the new progression part, instead of reading about our toned down bullshit veteran compensation.
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>>172462892

Magatha Grimtotem incoming
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>>172463156
>>172462969
shit, my bad.

It's actually this pic.
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>>172462969
it sucks a bit but desu I think a month or two later and nobody will give a shit, heroes level indefinitely now and the XP required is going to cap after lv20 (Think OW) so with enough playtime it ultimately means jackshit who started when. We already know that the XP required to get to 20+ levels will be far lower than it probably is to get a hero 9-10 now.

Basically, yes a lot of people are getting screwed out of chests, but ultimately it's free shit, nothing is really 'lost' to begin with and I think only half a mile down the road people will forget all about it.

desu I think master skins going into the boxes is the worst thing right now.
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>>172459527
Imperius

Two Diablo heroes before abandoning it forever.
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>172463345
Could you imagine opening over a hundred loot boxes?
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this game is literally overwatch now
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>>172463280
Do we get the hero-themed boxes (from every 10 lvls on one hero) as well?

If not, pic related
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>>172463250
I would not mind this desu, even if I'd rather have Cairne. We all know it won't be Baine, Baine isn't allowed to do anything cool or relevant. Since Cata he's killed like two Grimtotem, been Vol'jin's cheerleader whilst a literal fucking meme did more fighting and got more voiced lines than he did, acted as a lawyer for orc Hitler and pouted when Sylvanas became Warchief.
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>>172462965
Where the fuck is my Zul'jin announcer? That or Azmodan.
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>>172462969
Veterans get a 7:100 rate when the transfer occurs compared to new players, essentially.
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>>172463437
I'm thinking they should convert the lesser crates for the better ones. I want a veteran crate for every 50 levels.

Fucking have to make a third smurf for this or ask for a xp reset.
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>>172463464
There's nothing wrong with that
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>Can't just buy the skins you want with real money in 2.0
fug I've been waiting for a sale to buy the skins I wanted and now that dream is dead
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They really need to give us way more loot boxes
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>>172463464
>Overwatch except you can actually buy the specific shit you want instead of buying into a slot machine and praying to Christ for good fortune else you spend £30+ instead of like £10 tops
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so wait with the new voice lines tab does that mean that we wont hear those cool lines now?

i actually liked when you hear some rare line on the hero that you wont expect, had some nice timings with it

now i will hear the same voice line that i have activated and thats it?

so lame
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>>172463478
>Do we get
No.
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>>172463668
No, I am pretty sure many of them are actually new lines.

Also, they're pretty cheap. 40 shards.
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>>172463478
>just got like 5 heroes above level 10
I might as well quit for a month
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>PC Gamer article say this is going live April 25th.

The fuck? Do we really have to wait a month?
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>>172463665
>>172463619
hmmm
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I guess I'm not playing Probius for another month
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>>172463464
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>No Kel'Thuzad
>No Maiev
>No Cairne
>No Fenix
>No Dragoon-Fenix
>No Vanessa VanCleef
>No FemDiab- Oh, hooray!
>No Maiev
>No Deathwing
>No Onyxia
>No Andariel
>No Mephisto
>No Blood Raven skin for Amazon
>No LoD Assassin
>No Maiev
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>>172463845
Maybe for everything? I doubt they'd release 2 heroes at once. Cassia will probably go live but 2.0 will stay in Beta for OW map and Genji + 3rd hero.
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>>172463991
Blood Raven should be for Sylvanas if anything.
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>>172463991
We still have 1 more hero to get announced besides Cassia and Genji, anon. There is hope.

I'm betting it will be either big a highly requested WC hero (like Kel'Thuzad or Maiev) or a Retro. Or, if they want to keep up the Diablo anniversary shit, Aiden or Malthael.

The third one has to be big after Cassia and Genji.
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>>172464042
I don't give a shit about the Amazon she looks boring as hell.
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You are the Highlord queen, young and mean, only 217!
Highlord queen, killing shit for the Tal'Darim!
You can fight, you can jive!
Having the time of your life!
See that guy, watch that edge
Fighting the Highlord queen!
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DA AEIGIS ODYN, GIVE IT TO ME
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So veteran accounts lvl 1000 lose about $70 worth of gems and hundreds of boxes.
They at least could've given us those gems (or some share of it) and hero-specific boxes in addition to 70 and that would be more than enough, but kikes be kikes.
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So Artanis and Sylvanas got new skins for their current looks.

Up to date Jaina skin when? Hopefully with new lines showing her crazy.
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>>172464180
Pretty sure Genji is the unannounced hero that got leaked
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>>172464476
They're separate from their bases, Chen has a hat skin as well now.
>>172460248
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>>172460248
Does that Zera replace the high templar one?
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>>172464509
There are 2 unannounced heroes, one 2 months away.
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>>172464509
There's 3.
>Cassia
>Genji
>???
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>>172464509
I NEED HEALING
I NEED HEALING
I NEED HEALING
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>>172464460
They should be giving us the rewards we would get for leveling our heroes up to level 10 per hero, including what account level rewards you would get from those levels. Anything past level 10 is not such a problem
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>>172462969
the main fucking comes from the gold system and all the 5/9 leveling people have done.
so mostly an fu to free to play grinders for playing the game as it was set up.

skins are questionable too but not such a clear rug pull on people. costs are about the same.

>>172463345
main reason they won't give a shit is it's mostly filler in the boxes. it's not that it's free it's that it seems like more than it is because they kept the same inflated upfront bait to the system that the old system had with new accounts and gold. the heroes are the meat and year+ daily players are already loaded.
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>>172464609
No
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>>172464308
Alarak announcer pack when? Can't get enough of Delancie.
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>>172464552
I know that. I'll probably grab the Artanis skin, if it ever comes out then I'll get Dark Templar Tassadar.
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Mercyfags BTFO

>>172464509
>>172464612
>>172464618

Genji and D.Va to combo with the Overwatch map/event
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>>172464180
>>172464618
The third one will also be Overwatch. There'll be Overwatch event with OW map, so they'll use it to release at least two OW characters
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>>172464147
you mean blood raven for sylv
just like jaina should just be a sorceress skin
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>>172463280
>will now level up and unlock corresponding rewards
How are they fucking us up again?
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>>172463345
This, its a free game so its not like they're fucking your ass raw and no one will care in the long run. Personally Im glad they're basically giving you a free 30-day Stimpack.
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>>172464694
They should really fix the High Templar skin. The physics for the nerve cords are fucked and they bend and warp in weird ways.
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Waiting over here for more retro characters like
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>>172464883
This patch really is all about Overwatch and trying to get Overwatch players into hots
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>>172464180
Kel'Thuzad.

Anon who leaked Varian, Ragnaros, Zul'jin and Valeera mentioned they were close to Kel'Thuzad.

He's the first Warcraft hero after those four. Other than Overwatch and Retro the order is always Warcraft - Diablo/Starcraft - Warcraft.

He's also gonna be the last hero of the event, which is suitably big for Kel.
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>>172464883
The countdown thing lists 2 events
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>>172464864
That means nothing. Azguldan and Novazon both exist, and yet so do Azmodan and Cassia.
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>>172464864
never played the starcraft single player campaing but i really want to know what role does morales play on it
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>>172464646
Tbh I don't mind not having a thousand or so shitboxes to unlock (I'm gonna have acc lvl ~1300 in 2.0) - playing to unlock cosmetic shit could be fun. Gems though = stimpacks and $70 of gems could buy a lot of them which would be a nice incentive to actually play, but as it stands cashing in looks really fucking cheap. Like wtf. 7% of potential boxes not including gems and hero chests. My ass wasn't prepared for such a massive jew cock.
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So is it possible to mute enemy/allied emojis, sprays, banners, or voicelines? Imagine all that fucking spam during a match
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>>172465059
Just wait till you see the Nexus Challenge 2.0, you might change your mind
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>>172465060
>Other than Overwatch and Retro the order is always Warcraft - Diablo/Starcraft - Warcraft.
Are you sure, anon? It is SC>Diablo right now. Probius to Cassia.
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>>172464703
>"Prepare for the rite of Rak'Shir, weaklings."
>Kill one guy
>"Is this the best fighting you can do?"
>Megakill
>"Good. You might just be strong enough to become true Ascendants. For me to slay, that is."
>Victory
>"I expect no less from the warriors I usurp."
>Defeat
>"How terribly unsatisfying. Just uninstall the game."
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>>172465125
None. Morales is like Hammer and Probius, just a generic unit given a name.
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>>172465230
Too bad the only good and creative announcers currently released are:
>Diablo
>Abathur
>Brightwing
>Gazlowe
>Muradin

rest are shit, or are just near being worthy
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>>172465142
>enemy emojis
Not possible as enemy chat is still unavailable.
>allied emojis
Would require muting allied chat, but possible.
>sprays, banners
Nope, you're stuck with those.
>voicelines
You'd have to mute all voices. But we've had /taunt in-game since launch and nobody cares to spam it.
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>tfw too dumb to know if I should buy master skins now or wait
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>>172465306
breh, Probius was actually in a cinematic. He's more legit than Morales and Hammer for that fact alone.
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Just remembered I saved this for when Amazon was released.

>NEVER EVER
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>>172465370
Just wait, I opened up like 12 loot boxes on PTR and got 3-5 new skins, Masters amongst them. SO wait and keep your gold to re-roll.
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>>172465368
>we've had /taunt in-game since launch and nobody cares to spam it.
That's because it literally stuns you for like 2 seconds
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>>172465370
Do you want to spend gold for skins or shards?
Because it's the equivalent of like 300 shards to get the three variations of master skins.
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>>172465306
>>172465125

We do have an actual medic character that could be the medic hero in HotS, but got generic medic Morales instead
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>>172465370
Do you really like the ones you're looking at? Then get them, or you'll have to hope for a chest to drop it for you or get enough shards.
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>>172465370
Depends on how big your hoard is. Several dozens of thousands worth - buy those that strike your fancy, save some for new heroes. In 2.0 gold will be used only to unlock heroes and reroll chests.
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>>172465446
lol that whole post is some autist making a bunch of shit up
>bad terms
>don't own ip
wew lad
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>>172465476
Do the skins you get on PTR tranfer to live?
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>>172465548
Let's be real here: Egon would've been even more disappointing. At least this way we get the familiar female medic from BW and not "walking Harold Ramis parody".
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>>172465370
buying master skins now may be worth it because you get all three variations rather than just one like 2.0. However I don't know what's the price for a single master skin variation in 2.0, so maybe it's okay to wait.

>>172465737
no
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>>172465548
When was the last time you checked your privileges?
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Why isn't Cassia blonde?
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So what are the shard amounts you get for duplicates?
Are they by rarity or does the actual item matter?
Is a 2k gold hero the same amount of shards as a 10k gold hero?
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>>172465953
I got 400 for getting Artanis when I owned him. He was a Legendary hero. I'm pretty sure I also go Lili as well and got less shards for her.
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>>172465910
She's old. Grandmazon.
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>>172464476
Still though. White haired Jaina when?
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>>172466035
>lili is a cheap whore
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>>172465953
It goes by rarity. Azmodan is a 'common' hero, you get 20 shards. Legendary heroes (10k heroes like Cho'gall) give you 100. Legendary skins are 400 and rare skins are 100.
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Methinks a lot of the people bitching aren't thinking about the inhuman slog of opening 500+ crates in one go.
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>>172466143
>Legendary heroes (10k heroes like Cho'gall) give you 100
Pretty sure Epic heroes are 100 and Legendary heroes are 400. I landed Varian out of a common box on PTR and got 400 shards for it.
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>only immediately in front of your Hero
>lasts about five seconds

Neato.
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>>172466219
Enemy and allies cant see the sprays? What about with the banners?
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>>172466208
Or that giving everything in one go is counter-productive for Blizzard.
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>>172466035
>>172466143
And how much shards they cost to craft? Basically, what %% of cost do duplicates refund? Overwatch is pretty fucking stingy with it.
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I honestly don't give two fucks about anything other than skins, heroes and mounts.

I'm not alone here, right? Announcers, emojjis, voice lines, sprays, I don't care.
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>>172466367
Enemy and allies can see the sprays.
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>>172466219
I can't imagine the pain of the devs who had to implement this tedious useless shit.
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since the patch i am having massive framerate issues. i have always been playing on max settings without any issues. now the game stutters even at lowest settings. the best thing about that is the blizzard launcher tells me my drivers are out of date, which they arent... great to try to pass the blame on other manufacturers and their drivers when its blizzard that fucks up massively.

anyone else having the same issue?
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>>172466385
You need 4 legendary dupe drops in a row to get one tint of the exclusive skins that cost 1600 each. The odds for that happening are seemingly less than 10% each and they'll most likely decrease the odds after the beta ends.
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>>172466385
I think Legendaries are 1600, so 1:4 it seems. You can't buy heroes with shards though, only gold/gems($$$)
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>>172463280
So do we get this, and then our hero levels reset to zero, or do the hero levels stay the same and we get fucked out of a lot of rewards?
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>>172466579
Stop downloading porn

Upgrade/downgrade your drivers
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>>172466739
We get fucked in the ass by a circumcised dick.
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>>172466490
To be honest we were hearing "140 developers" song for over a year now. They finally have something to show.
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>>172466646
>>172466692
So the shard system is basically the same as hearthstone cards and dust. Are master skins epic?
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>>172466407
I'm fine with announcers, but fuck emojis, voice, banners, and sprays
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>>172466894
Master skins I believe are the lowest tier skins, simple skin tints aside.
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>>172466763
>Stop downloading porn
Haven't seen this joke in eons
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>>172466894
Closer to Overwatch in terms of value from dust and chances of epics/legends.

Master skins are rare (lowest tier), and no longer require levels.
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>>172464987
It's just people blowing things out of proportion. Is it annoying? Absolutely. I'd love to get the 200 whatever crates I 'earned' retroactively but I think it'd be madness if they did, this is meant to be a progression update and a shit load of good it'd be if we immediately unlocked EVERYTHING.
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>>172467027
Probably because you went fucking blind with all that masturbation.
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I'm not sure I like this new skin system. Dividing them up like this is bullshit. Is the pro to this supposed to be that you don't have to pay money for them if you don't want to, now? Because it's still bullshit in that case, I prefer the way it is now.
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>>172466967
>>172467093
So buying a master skin now is worth 3x rare duplicate shards which is 60?
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Hey, I finally have the chance to download the test realm

Do I have to redownload the update once it goes live, or does it stick/transfer?
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>>172467171
Only a chronic masturbator would think about it all the time.

You cherry popper.
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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>>172467148
People asking for 500 loot boxes are stupid. People asking for compensation for all the easy levels for leveling low level heroes have a point
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>I'm happy blizzard isn't giving me everything I've unlocked because opening all those chest would stink!
Wow
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>>172467148
200 crates of 5-10 shard is like, 1 skin + 1 hero.
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That's not pepe.
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>>172467417
hold up, are the rewards not retroactive?
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>>172467273
Hearthstone.
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>>172467534
they are
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>>172467417
Who gives a shit? Its a game, play it if you have fun, dont if its boring. That should be reward enough, if you actually do this to "unlock" everything then whats the point? Might as well go play slot machine at least there you'll make some ammount of cash, eventually.
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>>172467534
You can get up to 70 loot boxes if you have account level 1000
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>>172467534
At a 1:10 rate, yes.
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>>172467534
Instead of getting 1 box for each account level you have, their gimping your rewards by only giving you at most 70 boxes. You only get 70 if you're at level 1000
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Someone on grubbys stream already has the kerrigan skin
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Wait a minute; is Prime Evil Diablo our first transgender hero?!

Fucking SJWs ruining the game!!
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>>172467259
Compared to a 10k hero which would get you 100 or 400, I forget which.
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>>172467704
It's actually even less. About 7% or so.
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>>172467813
I guess I'm dumping my gold on unlocking heroes
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>>172467534
You'll get 10% what you'd get if you started playing after the update (assuming you have 1000-1500 matches played).
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>>172467868
It's even less because every 10 hero levels is another loot box
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>>172467417
What do you mean? We still keep everything we have unlocked + get lots of boxes
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Memes aside, as someone who doesn't usually spend money on cosmetics this update is pretty cool
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>>172466579
I'm playing since beta. This is normal, sometimes the patch will make the game unplayable SUDDENLY AFTER A PATCH and there's nothing you can do. This happened to me 2 times now, but they eventually fix it, no need to post a ticket in their forums btw they will not help.

One way to see if the problem is server-sided is loading a try mode, if the try mode works perfectly but the game doesn't even if the connection is fine, then you're fucked.

The only thing you can do is making sure your connection is working fine and just wait some weeks.
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>>172466407
They only did so there is more content for the boxes, only skins wouldn't be enough and people would obtain everything too fast
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>>172467516
In WoW this bird is called Pepe
Appeared in WoD
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>>172462969
>>172463156

Well I guess I'm going to make a new account, desu I don't even care since I never invested a single cent in this game and I'm still getting shit for free. Kinda sucks for idiots that bought skins lmao
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What's the best announcer and why is it Murky?
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>>172467801
Stop and think about it
A girl forced to take in the Black Soul Stone
Filled with 7 Prime Evil demons
Imagine the mind rape in one second
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>play a shitton of hots
>get punished
>level heros to lvl 5
>get punished
>play heroes after getting lvl 10
>get punished
>buy a stimpack
>rofl
>buy heroes
>some more punishment also you don't get the real money that is gems so we charged you multiple times goy
Piece of shit company, so happy I didn't spend anything on this garbage game
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so they removed probius' master skins. this happen to anyone else?
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>>172468685
KEKED
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>>172468554
>Not literal waifus like BW or Li Li
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>>172468685
>get punished

What a drama queen.
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>>172468685
Oh and the mainpoint
>they said you be retroactively rewarded for everything nce new system is itnroduced
yes goy, play our shit game you'll be rewarded for it, give us shekels and shill for this shit
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>>172468975
And some people defend this unironically.
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>>172468685
Explain
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>>172468975
Fucking this. I got like 15 heroes from 5 to 10 since I heard this because I'm a good goyum. Never been so keked in my shit life.
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>>172469079
>>172468685
TRAITORS MUST BE PUNISHED
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Okay I think I figured out what's bothering the fuck out of me with this new system.

UNLESS I'm missing something here, you can no longer directly just buy whatever skin you want. You need to play the game or spend money on loot boxes and hope for shards. Correct? Because that's honestly pretty shitty.
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>>172469079
It's now worth it to just discard an account with no skins or not all heroes bought and just start a new one if you plan to continue playing anyway.
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>>172468685
At first I thought "They aren't punishing us, they're gifting us a bunch of free cosmetics" but they are punishing us because it's not like you can go back and level up the same stuff again

>>172468759
They broke them all up into 3 separate skins that you get out of loot boxes. They're rare quality so they're easy to get
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>>172469167
ONE
LESS
TRAITOR
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>the amount of butthurt ITT

This is why gamers are called entitled. You all act like children every time someone doesn't cater to your super autism.
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>>172469204
I think you can buy gems with money
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>>172468759
it's PTR/beta, report the bug you mong
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>>172469270
What's your point?
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>>172469239
Indeed, you're basically locked to playing and grinding the far, far slower later levels in order to get the same amount of crates, compared to one per each early level most notably every hero from 1 to 8 (60 heroes * 8).
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>>172469297
No, you can, but you can only buy skins with Shards, which come from Boxes. And you buy the boxes with money, but you aren't guaranteed to get shards in boxes. So if you want to spend money, you end up spending more than you would have before just because you might not get shards, is how I'm understanding it.
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>>172466407
I'm excited for banners. They feel as cool as mounts to me.
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>>172469237
Why? They won't let us keep our unlocked heroes, gold and skins? They can't be this stupid
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>>172469391
You should stop acting like children.
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>>172469270
I'm of the silent "don't give a damn" camp. I'll keep playing regardless.
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>3 different currencies

is this a fucking joke?
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>>172469514
>anime
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>>172469514
>>172469270
>Dumb anime poster
>Has shit opinions
>Defends jews
Like clockwork.
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>>172469270
>Entitled

"We're glad you kept our game alive! So glad, in fact, that we're rewarding everybody! Here's the kicker though: Sorry to say, but people that didn't care about our game until we start handing out goodies get rewarded more. Oops."
>Uh, Blizzard, that sounds kinda bullshi-
"Fuck off, you entitled shit."
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>>172469491
Oh i see, that's dumb
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>>172469506
I mean if you've only played for a couple of months and have no significant amounts of real money purchases it's now worth it to just start fresh.
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>>172469506
You get to keep all your heroes and all your skins, buy you will not retroactively receive the rewards for leveling the heroes.
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>>172469567
>Real money currency
>Fake money currency for function (units)
>Fake money currency for vanity
Too complex for you?
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>>172469270 (kys)
>le entitled meme
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>>172469638
>low IQ video game player
>acting like an entitled brat
checks out to me
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>>172469454
It isn't gonna be slower since they changed the plateau.
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>>172469491
This goyum is way to smart for his own good.
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>>172469567
Not a joke anon. You can buy Good Goy Points with real money, which can then in turn be converted into Jew Gold which you can then use to buy crates which gives you loot boxes and Shekels, you can then use those Shekels to buy things in the store. It's pretty simple actually.
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>>172469713
>Too complex for you?
It probably is too complex for them. This thread has already proven to be full of low IQ manchildren.
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>>172469567
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>>172469730
>Comes to a videogame general on 4chan to attempt to look superior to anyone else
>Probably plays the game too and enjoys cocks down his throat like the faggot he is
How pathetic do you have to be in real life
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>>172469821
At what point the dick gets removed from my ass, master? Because it's really starting to hurt and not in a good way.
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>>172469745
It'll be faster than before, but it took no less than 70 games to get from 13 to 14, and 19-20 was over triple that. The early levels are what bug me.
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>>172469745
The first 10 levels are still much faster than the levels after it
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>responding to kids posting anime and calling everyone dumb
baka desu senpai
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>>172469889 (kys)
>smug image
>generic insults
just graduated shitposter elementary, eh?
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>>172465157
i would like it to be D.va,Rein or Zen and ana
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>>172469806
Okay, so I'm not misunderstanding anything. then

That is really fucking shitty for anyone who has wanted to spend money on this game, I've only bought maybe 3 things, and I cannot see myself buying any of these stupid fucking boxes just to hope for Shards so I can get the shit I want. Holy fuck, what is wrong with these devs?
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>>172469934
>giving people loot boxes that they have to open with keys purchased with real money

At least Blizzard didn't try to jew us as hard as Riot and Valve
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>>172470081
>(kys)
Underage kid please leave.
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>>172470196
just buy the skin? I don't understand what the boxes have to do with anything.
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^ look at this idiot
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>>172470196
They listened to the Overwatch devs.
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>>172470196
I've spent more than 100 bucks on this game. Don't mind. I just get more shit on top of it. Didn't lose anything.
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>>172470079
well it's not like reporting has worked for the last decade. because hehe fun just let them have "fun" shitting every where right?
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>>172470196
Are you retarded?
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>>172470331
Unless you bought a stimpak, then you literally 2x'd your way into less crates.
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>Paying for a CHANCE of getting enough in-game currency to buy what you want

Isn't this literally gambling?
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>>172470196
>yfw there's faggots out there that have spent over $100 on this game

I bet they fucking hate themselves now
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The 70 box cap is too small. Give all box types up to level 1000 and throw in a 7 day stimpak
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>>172470452
>buy gems
>buy the thing you want

not really
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Reading this thread is making my IQ go down, can i buy skins with money/gems or do i have to gamble until i have enough shards?
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how is this not actually a far less jewish system than 15k gold gated heroes & real money only for skins?

this is clearly a case of blizzard admitting that they need to start giving out way more shit for free, so that their pipeline of new players doesnt dry up and the game doesnt die off from lack of players, which is probably where it was headed.

its almost an identical system to overwatch except you dont have to drop 40 bucks to buy the game first, the game is free.
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>>172470647
Look at this retard
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>>172470673
I don't know how it will be in the end, but we know that they disabled all real money purchase in the beta, so the fact that there's no option to buy skins with real money for now is not a proof that gambling will be the only way to get them
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>>172470673
I dunno where the misinformation started and why this autist keeps sharing it, as you can literally buy gems directly and use them to buy EVERYTHING.
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>>172470771
wow you sure told me :)
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>>172470673
Gems are just like riot points, you buy the blizzard currency with money then buy whatever you want with it. You can also buy gamble boxes if you want
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>>172470821
>>172470647
>>172470260
>>172470985
lmao idiots
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>>172470673
You can only get skins from opening them in boxes or with shards. The thing is, once you've gotten enough loot boxes you're going to be getting mostly shards from every box anyway, so in the long run you could end up spending less real money.
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>>172470260
>>172470372
The complaint is that you cannot directly buy a skin as you normally would. You have to buy boxes and hope for Shards, so that you can buy the skin you wanted to directly buy with the money.

It's a reverse-F2P system wherein you are rewarded more for just playing the game, and attempting to spend money on it is setting you up to be a sucker who is spending more on the game than what they previously would have with the way the system is on Live. People are right when they say it's punishing, but it's punishing anyone with disposable income.
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>>172471020
Your complete lack of argumentation makes you look like the only idiot here
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So I haven't played in two months, but I heard HotS is majorly changing? Good shit, these devs don't sleep do they
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>>172471093
Again, buy gems and get the skin.
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don't need to argue when the patch notes say all you idiots are wrong lmao, not even giving you this reply
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>>172471224
If you were paying attention you would realize that you cannot to our knowledge buy skins with gems, only with shards, which can only be gained with loot boxes.
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>>172471224
These people believe it will not be possible; do we have a clear confirmation that gems allow buying a specific skin directly? I'd like a precise source if we do
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>>172471123
Didn't the guy in the video say you get gems only in-game?
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>>172471156
Some people are whining about perceived losses even as they gain the ability to achieve the paid vanity items they wouldn't have possibly gotten before.
Now, people who paid for stimpacks, those are the real losers here who have legitimate complaint. That's paying for XP and XP then will be more valuable than XP before.
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>>172470673
>>172470821
>>172470985
>>172471224
You have to spend real money on Gems, and then use Gems to buy loot boxes to hope you rng into skins you want, or get enough dupes to get shards to buy it. You can no longer directly buy skins with money, unless its in a featured bundle.
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>>172471314
Read the patchnotes dumbass
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>>172471123
this selective reading thing is pretty remarkable
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>>172471337
No, gems represent real money, even though you can get a very small amount of them by playing
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>>172471353
L O O T T E R Y
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>>172471353
Oh shit!
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>>172471430
I've read your entire post
it is entirely an insult with exactly 0 amount of argumentation
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>>172471353
That's kinda shitty. I'm never a fan when games do that - does this mean we should buy the skins we actually want now?
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>>172471338
>perceived losses
It's actual losses for the first 10 levels of every hero you have leveled before the change. Anything past that is the same leveling speed for everyone so we don't need that because everyone will be equal after that
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>>172471353
i can't believe people are applauding this bullshit. have to spend $20 to get something worth $16 and can't use the remaining four on anything. thank god i didn't spend much of any money on this game
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>>172471615
lol idiot
>>
So I should just not play at all for the next few weeks to avoid missing out on anything else?
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>>172471664
>I'm never a fan when games do that
You talk like you were only mildly annoyed.
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>>172471353
This confirms everything. GEMS (real moneyà CAN ONLY BUY LOOT CHESTS, HEROES, STIMPACKS AND BUNDLES. NO SPECIFIC SKIN BUY, YOU HAVE TO GAMBLE TO GET WHAT YOU WANT.
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>>172471775
Eh... I only am mildly annoying.

They're just cosmetics.
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>>172471765
yes
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I'm done complaining about the fucking boxes, I just want to know when it releases.
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>>172471765
Reddit will whine enough to get what we want. You shouldn't stop playing a game because you might miss some rewards. If you like hots, play hots, it's that simple.
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>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.

Followed by

>In addition to Forging Skins and Mounts using Shards, or finding them in Loot Chests, a number of Featured Skins and Mounts will be available for Gem purchase in the Collection.
>To keep things fresh, the list of Featured Skins and Mounts will rotate on a regular basis.

Stop saying "just buy gems and buy the skin you want!!!" it does not work like that. Anyone willing to spend money is getting fucked in the ass. You can say "well i dont mind!" now, but you won't be saying that months from now.
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Post yfw you never spent any real money on this game and are safe from the jewery
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>>172471765
Basically just do the brawls, the daily quests are mathematically NOT worth losing money exclusive crates.
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>>172471716
It's not losses because it's a function you hadn't had before, numbskull. If this update never occurred at all, tell me what you lost?
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>>172471889
In 3 weeks
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>>172471956
>Anyone willing to spend money is getting fucked in the ass
good
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>>172471973
I only bought a bundle or two, heroes that is. They were too cheap NOT to buy.
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>>172471923
If you think that reddit can make Blizzard change their commercial strategy, you're very delusionnal. Blizzard is a VERY jew company. It wasn't very apparent on Heroes of the Storm until now, but the shit from Hearthstone and Overwatch, after having reached Starcraft and Diablo, will reach Heroes of the Storm. There's no escape.

In fact, reddit will even applaud that.
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>>172472048
Why announce all this shit now then.
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>>172471727
That's the thing, anon. If you're LUCKY, you'll spend 20 bucks on a 16 dollar item. If not, you'll spend 50 bucks instead.
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>>172471765
Do dailies using your highest-level heroes and complete brawls so you won't miss on gold, don't touch anything else.
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>>172472106
Because it's on PTR now
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>>172472106
The beta period will last 3 weeks.
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>>172472158
>don't touch anything else.
More like don't touch the game ever again.
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Basically, if there are any skins you really like right now, buy them like a good goy to avoid having to pray to rngesus.
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>>172471986
Won't we keep the gold the gold tho?
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should I go back to WoW for 7.2 or keep slugging it out in gold HL?
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>>172471986
How would daily quests make you lose boxes?
Just play a hero you're not going to have altered progression on. Surely you have people past 10 already? They're already at their XP curve limit for the new patch if so.
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>>172471973
My neighbour's lil'shit literally stole mom's credit card to buy Lucio bundle, Kyberhawk Cael and Ungoro.
Didn't even buy overwatch cause lilshits are stupid.
Blizz support says there's nothing they can do to refund moneys.
It's not very related, but I just got to know this and keked hard.

Jew marketing very strong, works on 8 year olds.
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>>172472360
We'll keep the gold, but for each 3 games you play for the 300 gold quest, especially on a single low level hero, you're several steps closer to losing a crate that could contain a 10k gold hero or a skin. Every level counts.
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>>172472507
How is progressing on a hero bad?
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>>172472404
there's nothing to do in wow, all the new patch stuff is gated.
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>>172464864
What would Mercy even do? Everything from her OW kit is already with Morales and Auriel
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>>172472537
>Jew marketing very strong, works on 8 year olds
And it works even on 20+yr faggots too.
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>>172472594
People upset that they lose a few boxes from the levels 1-10 being accelerated in the new XP curve
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>>172472507
What are you talking about? A level 10 hero is level 15 on 2.0, and level 20 will be level 55. Wouldn't continuing to play be catastrophical if you want to keep your crates?
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>>172470202
the riot ones are free.
in fact they were praised at the time for not doing the csgo jew-ery.

>>172468685
It's geared towards new players then. Which I like since I've only played a few dozen games of hots.
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>>172465501
Plus I don't think taunt has a hot key like in League, so can't really spam or like there.
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>>172471353
oh shit anon, reading is fucking hard
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>>172467516
RARE PEPE :DDDDDDD
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>>172472710
No because leveling past 10 is irrelevant, the levels don't end and they're all equidistant. It's only before 10 that it matters.

Which, since there's 64 heroes to level to 10, means anyone who's leveled them all vs. someone who has leveled none is a difference of of 576 boxes, but anything beyond that doesn't matter.
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>>172472710
No, because it stops curving up after 10.
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>>172472826
Anon what's that word right in front of "Skins and Mounts"?
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>>172472213
>>172472203
Yes but why not keep testing it at HQ and then putting on PTR a week before release. Making us wait for a fucking month is retarded.
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>>172472103
You're fucking retarded tbqh. You don't want actual discussion, you just want to naysay everything, and there's really no convincing you.
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>>172458775
God fucking dammit
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>>172472842
>>172472891
Okay, is there something I don't understand? What happens at level 10 and why would it make a difference when it comes to crates?
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Question, are they going to reset hero levels? because how else im going to get loot memes if I already have everyone leveled up
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>>172465501
Fucking really?

Lmao
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>>172472967
something about "le jews xd" just check the thread
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>>172472979
They will give you 70 chests maximum, you will lose out on a ton but at least it's something
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>>172472979
you'll get boxes based on the total current levels
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>>172472826
For those who can't tell what this means.

THERE WILL BE OF ROTATION OF FEATURED SKINS THAT YOU CAN BUY WITH GEMS.
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>>172472507
There are actually optimal levels to leave your heroes at so you can get the hero specific loot boxes you get for every 10 levels. I think level 11 with no exp is almost level 20 in the new system so you don't want to level heroes past 10 if you can avoid it. After that it's around 2 levels for every 10 levels in the new system
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>>172473113
>Rotation
Given how impatient the average vidya player is, they'll gamble either way.
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>>172473057
calling it now, they don't have a "mass open" option, and we're gonna have to click through everything 40-70 times depending on how many boxes you have
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They should just give us all the boxes our lvl are worth minus 1 box for each 4 item we own
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>>172473113
Yes, A ROTATION. This also means that YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BUY SKINS OUTSIDE THE ROTATION.

Also, since they separated each variation into different skins, THERE IS A HIGHLY INCREASED CHANCE THAT THE SKIN YOU WANT WILL NOT BE PART OF THE ROTATION.
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>>172473229
complain on the reddit QA tomorrah
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>>172472967
>What happens at level 10
The XP curve flatlines and then stretches to infinity.
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>>172472816
Default is numpad 1 or 2, the other one is dance
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>>172472914
"Featured" gives zero indication as to the number of, or which, mounts and skins that will be available for purchase
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>>172473286
>THERE IS A HIGHLY INCREASED CHANCE THAT THE SKIN YOU WANT WILL NOT BE PART OF THE ROTATION.
then wait until it comes back around?

you don't see people bitching in the middle of summer because they missed out on sugarplum sylvanas last winter
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>>172473217
If you already have a lot of what you want you probably want to save your loot boxes anyway for when they add a more.
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>>172472914
It's means that only a few skins/mounts will be available for direct purchase at any time. Presumably they will change regularly.
>>172472967
All levels pre-10 cost less xp to get, the idea is that waiting for 2.0 to hit before getting heroes to 10 will save them time.
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>>172473305
And what does that have to do with it being worth it at all to play heroes that are currently level 10+? I'll still be gaining around 10 million xp per level and those mirror directly to the new ones.
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>>172473427
>then wait until it comes back around next year?
k sure
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>>172473305
everyone is going to have master skins now
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>>172470202
I don't know about Steam, but the Riot ones are free. Sort of.

You'll get a few a month without having to pay before the boxes start stacking up. Unless you're a 1-trick.


>>172471353
>tfw dumb and still processing all this new information

Exciting times.
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>>172473548
what have people been doing so far for the last 2 years of winter skins?
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>>172473286
It's still very jewey, but what else would you expect?
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>>172473495
>I'll still be gaining around 10 million xp per level and those mirror directly to the new ones.
Huh? No, they average. A hero at level 20 is going to be at hero level 55 once the system goes live.
But the thing is, once it does, the distance between level 11 and level 12 is the same as the distance between level 9999 and 10000. So there's no real loss there, if it's not a hero below level 10.
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>>172472941
I wonder who they got to draw that. Looks pretty nice.
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Wonder if I should get heroes I have on 9 to 10 to get master skins.
Doing it for Arthas since it's only like 9 games but Diablo I need 4.000.000 xp and the others Reh, Ming, Fal and zag I don't care about at all.
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>>172473559
Master skins aren't even bound to hero level anymore. You can have a master skin for a hero at level 1.
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>>172472915
Probably so they can fix anything that causes a massive backlash like this 70 loot box cap. Also can't have people finding ways to bug out the box system and get them for free so test it for longer
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>>172473736
Exactly what I said, all that matters is the exp.

None of this still makes fucking sense to me, mainly referring to the original argument of whoever replied to me.
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>>172473427
>I can't buy what I want whenever I want, I can only buy things I don't want so that I may have a slight chance to get what I want for 10 times its real value
I can't fucking believe you're defending this. Blizzard is acting in a diabolical way, here.
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>>172473748
If you want the master skin in all tints, do it.
Otherwise it's better to wait since being close to level 10 should (in theory) bring you to just below level 15 in the rework, making 15 an easy level.

If you're missing heroes they're a better investment, due to the fact duplicate heroes net 400 shards, as opposed to duplicate master skins netting 10 (or was it 40?)
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>>172473840
They aren't going to do anything about the 70 box cap limit. Reddit people are already defending it.
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>>172473868
XP is XP man, you get it now or get it later, doesn't change a thing. The rates of XP only alter between levels 1 to 10 so if your hero has already launched past that bar, you're already past the point of no return and any XP earned on that character will be equivalent now or after it goes live.
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>>172473963
I feel bad I ever spent money on this game. Even if it was $3 for a stimpack and a handful of characters I was missing.
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Is nobody feeling jewed by having master skins destroyed like that? It's supposed to show my dedication to a hero by spending time to level up and shell out 10k, now a bunch of jolly idiots are going to stroll around in them because it dropped from a fucking white chest.
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>>172473593
>have to play to rng a chest
>need key to open chest
>need fragments to craft key
>fragments are rng with incremental rarity

personally I think that's worse
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>>172474072
EXCEPT that you get the damn crates once per level and a hero specific crate every 10 levels and I don't feel like getting fucked in the ass like that.
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>>172473748
Buying Master skins would be exchanging 10000 gold for 300 shard value. Technically inferior to buying 10000 gold heroes, at roughly 400 shard value. (Heroes cannot be bought with shards though)
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>>172474041
Thanks anon, gonna level arthas and then stop playing until the patch and logging in just for ai games to do quest.

Missing quite a few heroes, some 7k ones too.
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>>172474134
getting level 10 didn't take long at all.

If Master Skins were say unlocked at lvl 20 then I'd understand your point
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>>172474158
>EXCEPT that you get the damn crates once per level
Yeah but the point being is that each level is equidistant for the rest of infinity, so it doesn't matter if you're at 11 or 9999. Like I said three times now. Adding 50 levels to a level 11 character will get 50 boxes, and adding 50 levels to a level 9999 character will get 50 boxes, and take the same amount of time and effort.
The only difference in effort is below level 11. Which you're already screwed out of if you've passed that point, it's too late.
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>>172474134
>tfw bumping into a literal Bronze V Sylvanas in Vs. AI sporting the "master" skin
>also level 20 on the Hero

Neat idea, but I'm not sure I'll mind this new system.

>>172474145
Yeah, pretty much. You hit diminishing returns on key fragments pretty quickly.
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>>172474134
Yuuup. Master Muradin really helped to tank because enemies were afraid of you and team"mates" were more likely to follow your calls. Master Nazeebo cut down shittalk in draf chat 50%. Now it's just random cosmetics.
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>>172474134
I don't care too much about master skins because almost all of them just add a hat or some spikes. A lot of them are the worst looking skins in the game.

>>172474145
Don't forget that you can only earn keys/chests for characters you own. You can't play free characters to shake things up until you've collected your monthly allowance of chests. And it's based on some stupid algorithm where if you finish a game in 15 minutes you won't get a crate because your creep score isn't high enough or maybe you farmed 300 creeps and pushed down every tower in the game but your kill count is too low for a carry.
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>>172474323
I can't see it that way. Maybe I'm not addicted enough to play now and get fucked in the ass later. I didn't take into account that the levels are assumedly limitless.
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>>172474484
Maybe at bronze level...
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>>172473963
>i can't wait
>i demand shit now
fucking entitled little shits
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>>172473963
>I can't buy what I want whenever I want

Granted the new system is kind of worse, nothing is stopping you from spending shards. You're literally complaining about not being able to spend real money ($) at that exact point in time. Seems like a loss for Blizz, and NOT for you, if you decide not to spend at all or use shards instead
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>>172474734
Enjoy waiting a year or more to get the skin you want on rotation, you fucking cuckold.
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>>172474713
Diamond is mostly bronze.
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2.0 seems neat. But two questions.

1. Any reason to play the beta? Do you get to keep shit you earn and buy?

2. How do you get cheerleader Kerrigan. I've been in love with that since I first saw the Dorm art.
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>>172474827
>they start releasing skins in waves
>people rush in to buy a shit ton of crates, some never getting what they wanted
fuckin' activision
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>>172474947
>1
Test stuff. No, you don't get to keep anything, of course.

>2
'Dunno. Wait for Heroes of the Dorm to end and for her to be given out to the winners. It'll likely be available for purchase afterwards, similar to Azmodunk.
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>>172474947
1. You do not.
2. Pray for the RNG to hit you right.
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>>172474649
It's not really an assumption.
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20638783/
>Player level progression is no longer capped at 40.
>Individual Hero levels are no longer capped at 20.

You can see it on PTR right now if you so choose.
The only way you're getting screwed out of boxes is if you have characters which will end up above level 10 on the new XP curve. (You do.) Unfortunately, there is no fix for that. Simply do not level up any character below level 9 at this point, if you want to save. (Patch note says "Heroes who were level 10 should adjust to approximately Level 15 in the new progression system")
As for beyond that, you'll lose nothing. So keep doing your quests in peace, so long as you do it on a character above level 9.
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>>172474947
Some people already have the kerrigan skin, it's probably from heroes of the dorm so the skin will probably release to get in a few weeks. There is no point to play the beta other than checking things out.
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>>172474416
>>172474552
>diminishing returns
>only earn keys/chests for characters you own
>monthly allowance of chests
>based on some stupid algorithm

holy shit I'm glad a quit League years ago
FUCK Riot
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>>172475071
>>172475109
>>172475157
Thanks, homies. I'll stick to trying to learn Probius for now then.
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>>172474416
For some reason level 20 sylvanas players are the worst in the game. There was another streamer who only played sylvanas, he was like rank 30 back then, had sylvanas at 20 and never used silencing arrow because he didn't know how to detonate it so always took possession
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If they're going to be fucking us this hard, I only ask that they give us, maybe not lube, but a sample of their saliva, and give you a discount on the other tints of a skin you own, if you already own a tint of that skin.
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>>172475153
It's especially hilarious since I just got the last of my heroes to level 9. I'm going to request compensation or a complete level wipe on my account because I'm a little bitch.

I wont be playing anything that gets me exp, no daily quest gold is worth losing pieces of a paywall feature. Fuck the daily quests.
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>>172475334
Oh, that's rough.

Perhaps it's just somebody looking to PvE. Like, push one lane all game and never leave. Or they just like Sylvanas.

>Gazlowe
>Azmodan
>Zagara
>Xul(?)

Some Heroes just attract a certain kind of person.
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>>172475334
Is that the old guy streamer who's like in his 60s or something like that? I remember someone fitting that description being posted about ages ago.

>>172475415
Like, if you get a tint after the changes? Because if you own a skin it looks like you unlock all the base tints automatically, regardless of whether you had unlocked them already or not.
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>>172475415
Nope.
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>>172475415
>Give you a discount of tints you own
What? You mean the default skin tints of heroes you don't have to lvl 7 or 8? They're literally the cheapest thing to get in this. All other tints you get if you bought a skin.
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>>172475415
>In addition to the base version of those Skins and Mounts, players will also permanently receive both of those items’ variations —whether or not they had previously unlocked them through progression.

You can literally buy a hero now, keep it at level 1, and after the update you will have all the base skin tints without having to level up the hero
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>>172475507
Read the fucking official post you autistic anime poster.
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>>172473838
what are you serious?
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But in all seriousness are they reworking Uther or not.
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>>172475415
I am pretty sure you get the tints to any skin you already own that aren't new tints being added in 2.0.
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>>172465548
Dude the generic characters are better. Fucking generic Starcraft units are great. Those are the guys you actually play the game with.

>>172465751
>At least this way we get the familiar female medic from BW
Exactly, exactly.
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>>172476207
they did, people are streaming on twitch
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Should I buy Johanna or Kael'Thas?
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>>172476329
Spellbreaker Johanna.
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>>172476367
>tranny skrillex
No thank you.
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>>172476027
You don't like the extra thicc dragon loli?
but in all seriousness, complaining about anime has been and will continue to be a dead give away when it comes to identifying newfags
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>>172476149
Master skins don't exist any more, actually. They're just 'rare tints'.
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>>172476149
Very serious. Master skins don't mean anything in 2.0
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>Heroes 2.0
Oh boy, meaningful changes.
>More shit for idiots
>Tons more shit for idiots
>We want more idiots to play our game, they are the people who buy DLC endless because they can't even fucking count.
>epeen shit
>emoji
Ah fucking hell no. The cell phone generation needs to just fucking die.
>No gameplay anything or new content
FFFFFFFFFFuck, 2.0 should actually mean fucking something.
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>>172476291
What did they change? Haven't played in forever but this 2.0 shit has me interested
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>>172476634
I think the banners are a nice addition to the gameplay.

First banner I buy will be a Samuro banner for all the camps I'm going to afk farm.
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>>172476517
Why even ask, then?
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>>172476634
Meanwhile matchmaking is still retarded, silence system keeps getting abused like a syrian refugee loli and new\reworked heroes are getting pigeonholed in predetermined roles with RGB talents on every tier.
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>>172476783
No, first banner you buy will be a random banner from chests. You can't buy banners directly except with shards that you almost only get from chests at a very slow rate. Same goes with all other cosmetic items.
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At least you don't need to buy keys to open the fuckin boxes.
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>>172476783
I only played one game on the PTR, are the banners just things that drop when you take a keep or camp?
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>>172475551
>>172475594
No I mean, for example I just bought Frost Wyrm Arthas WITH SHARDS on the PTR, right? So I now have to buy the other tint variants. I'm saying they could at least give a discount on these other variants as I now own the skin, but only one variant.
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>>172476967
When ever you take a keep, camp, or objective your banner will show up. Just a little thing to show off with.
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>>172476965
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How do you equip announcer?
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>>172476820
Dude he's not me.
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>>172476959
No, those are drops silly.

>>172476967
Yes.
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>>172476965
What Game??
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Javazon is invincible, the trait is ridiculous
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>>172476965
Keys for crates is old news.

Valve started the loot box schtick a long time ago with Dota 2 after killing its trade economy.
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>>172477260
You mean Good Javazons are invincible.
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>>172477260
Shes way too vulnerable to cc
>>
soup dash sarlacc
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>>172477260
Just stun her like you would every other fucking hero in the game. Same exact thing, every fucking hero. Stun -> burst.
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>>172477407
good=right click in the opposite direction of danger
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>>172477515
Toss nahladah!
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>>172476634
>No gameplay
Despite the balance changes, the 3 new heroes, and new battleground
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>>172477684
crystal fffFFFUCK arram
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>>172476634
Do you eat shit
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>>172477785
Why does alarak not like ARAM? It's a fun game mode.
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>no leoric announcer
wtf
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Is reddit up in arms over this box cap?
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>>172478016
You think the Highlord has time for silly games?
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>>172478031
no chromie either
yet they added >>>>>>>li li
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>>172478179
>caring about reddit

Hello, reddit.
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No idea why they felt the need to change anything in the first place. The system they've been using now is perfectly fine. Heroes and Master skins cost gold, everything else is a single skin or mount, you buy it, you own it and all it's tints, end of story.

The fuck is this shit? The fuck is all of this "one skin is now three!" bullshit all about? There's no reason for it. Let OW keep it's system, it works for OW, but it doesn't translate well into HotS, a MOBA. It's unnecessary bloat.
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>>172478179
Yes, front page is full of threads about this with lots of upvotes
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>>172478257
the devs care about reddit you retard
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So is Artanis supposed to be played as a tank or a bruiser?
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>>172478371
>wahh I love reddit because other people do

Good job, sheep. Take care on your way to reddit.
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>>172478408
A bruised tank, according to an anon in an earlier thread.
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>>172478408
Bruiser.

The shielding and shit lets him get away with being a cheeky cunt but won't stand up to real damage/burst.
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>>172478258
The old leveling system is terrible tho

It is not even that complicated, why do you autists get so mad over changes?
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>>172478490
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>>172478371
the devs are incompetent nu-males
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>>172478179
Uh, I think they're upset about Master skins being less meaningful/prestigious.

Or something.
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>>172478640
Yeah this and the 70 box cap
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>>172478778
Well capping out at 70 boxes for 70 hero levels is pretty much a shit deal. That's like two weeks' worth of playing as a newbie, max.
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>>172478629
The leveling system change is whatever, who cares. I'm talking about the weird ass decision to split up a single skin into three "skins", charging separately for them, same thing with mounts, etc. All it does is create a bunch of bloat across all menus, and I guess, honestly, this sets the game up to be more expensive. As someone now has to spend much more money to get shit they want.

Pretty fucking lame of them.
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>>172478179
Yes, they have a reddit Q&A tomorrow as well according to their timeline so people will probably ask about that. Reddit also seems to care about master skins prestige so that will probably be asked about a lot too.
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>>172478437
kill yourself you inbred.
Im not even the same guy.
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>no "Feel the hatred of 10,000 years"
>no "You are not prepared"

wtf
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>Lose to a 5 specialist meme team in Unranked
>Get whispered abuse about how we got owned
>Get them again
>Team prepares for it appropriately this time
>We fucking crush them in a humiliating 4 level difference complete stomp
>Mfw this player is ignoring you
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>Caring about "prestige" in a free game

Pathetic.
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So uh guys.

Did Diablo's Base Hero description get changed? I don't remember that "..and his gender...malleable" quote being there.
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>>172478946
Excellent damage control buddy. Don't know why you're making a mockery of yourself here, but by all means keep going.
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>>172478917
That's literally leveling one free rotation to 6. 14x5. One fucking week.
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>>172479416
It was there before.
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>>172479416
Yes, it was always there, as a joke nod towards his D3 self of course.

ALSO, good on them for actually make the Amazon the actual fucking Amazon in terms of kit and playstyle. Poor fucking Xul never had a chance.
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>>172479456
yea sure mang.
at least im not a (You) fishing whore.
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>>172479416
No, I think it has been like that for a while.

>little Xul description mentioning his ability to keep multiple lanes pushing simultaneously

Now these are neat.
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Have not seen threads be this active before.
Are we alive? or is it just a last ditch effort?
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>>172479535
Exactly.

It's not like I'm one of the 9999999 hero level fags bitching about how unfair Blizzard is to the 1%, 70 hero levels is like, 90% of the population. INCLUDING smurfs.
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>>172479581
>i want to throw lighting bolts into a horde of cows that splits into a billion other light bolts
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>>172479658
Post-mortem spasms.
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>>172479658
Just people going apeshit over the HORRIBLE new shop system.
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So you get a common chest every player level that doesn't reward a rare or epic loot box right, then obviously the rare and epic? Then you get an additional hero box for every 10 levels on a specific hero with an item for that hero. So you lose a loot box for each play level over 70? In addition to losing the hero boxes?

So if you are 170 you are losing 100 loot boxes?
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ENOUGH
They can't keep getting away with this

I'm going to kill Blizzard, wish me luck fellow redditors
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>>172479658
Blizzard kicked the dead horse so hard it became a Jewinstein monstah.
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>people upset because they get free stuff just not as much free stuff as they want
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>>172479757
>Losing
What the fuck are you losing? You invested time into this game without any knowledge or expectation of these loot boxes.
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>>172479757
You are also losing gems for every 25 levels.
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>Uther rework preview on Townhall Heroes
Oh baby
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>>172479757
You should be able to reset your hero levels so you can get the really fast early level boxes, now if you have a lot of high level heroes you get screwed
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>>172479975
They literally told people around Blizzcon that new system is in the works and all rewards will be retroactive.
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>>172479895
>hey playerbase you'll be rewarded retroactively for each hero level you've earned, kleep playing our excellent game heroes of the storm!
>sorry dumb goyim, no rewards for you. You only get to keep the shit you've already paid for, be grateful for that entitled goys
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>>172479975
You are losing all those easy early level loot boxes, use your head for once
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>>172480145
Ok you're getting retroactive rewards. Just not as much as you want.
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Seeing consumers defend anti-consumer practices is always the saddest thing.
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>>172479807
Pls no this game is like crack to me
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Is Genji really the next hero?

I'm not his biggest fan, but I can't deny how hard I'm getting at the prospect of deflecting Li Ming's Arcane Orbs back at her smug cunt face.
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>>172479807
As long as you make Columbine look like a fucking joke, I'm in.
>>172479416
Definitely a dudebro demon. We all know for a fact that he lewded himself up when he took over Leah's body.
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>>172480282
They are just blizzdrones and will defend anything blizzard does. It's pretty great to have a hardcore consumer base like that though you can do anything you want.
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>>172480372
>implying deflect will work like that
It'll probably just be a Varian Parry that sprays a little damage in an arc.
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>>172480409
You can stop playing anytime friend. Instead of whining on imageboards why Blizzard isn't give you MORE stuff.
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would you cum to momma?
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>>172480372
pls no

>>172480282
There'll always be people that defend anything the company does. /shrug

>whoa $30 for a transfer you should be grateful back in my day we had to make a new character
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>>172480282
How is it anti consumer
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>>172480274
You fat or that stupid? They told that we'll get rewards for each level. Then they gave free stimpacks and shit and I actually went hard as a motherfucker leveling heroes to 10. Now there's a smelly jewish dick in my ass.
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70 loot boxes feels like an odd number to draw the line at.

Why not 100 or 75?
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>>172480282
STOP being so entitled
Just STOP
Be grateful that Blizzard only half lied and even gives you something and doesn't take away anything you've earned, I for one am glad I'll get some chests, it's more than anyone could've asked for

Also don't forget you just have to pay the measly sum of $99.99 to get even with new players who just picked up the game!
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>>172480524
What the fuck
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>>172480282

its just the blizzard fan base they are braindead as fuck
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>>172480479

I don't think they'll gut his pretty iconic ability like that. If not abilities, it'll probably deflect basic attacks back at the attacker/counter with melee hits for melee attacks.
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can someone post all the hammer voice lines? i aint installing that jew shit
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>>172465230
>just uninstall the game

I'd pay legit money to have John De Lancie shit talk me like this all game. It'd be fucking amazing.
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>>172480567
When you can't purchase shit you want directly because it's behind randomized wall of kikechests it's anti-consumer.
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>>172480221
There are people out there arguing that orange and off-orange Ragnaros are actually worth 300 points a piece and I should be lucky Blizzard didn't take them away from me.
I'd be more than happy if Blizzard just gave me 180k shards and I could buy the skins I actually like.
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>>172480804
You can though.
Shards work exactly like IP/RP from LoL. You either buy them to unlock what you want or you can collect enough from chests and shit to buy what you want.
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^ look at this illiterate drone
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>>172480687
JUST STOP MAN
JUST STOP YOU MAKE ME CRY ;(
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>>172480892
I'm pretty sure you get to keep 2 tints for any skin you already own prior to 2.0.
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>>172481050
You can't buy shards
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Combined hero level 450 here, can they just revert each of my hero to 1 and keep their shitty 70 chests please
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>>172481217
Not until you turn in your gold.
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>>172480567
Live
>Emberlord Zul'jin looks neat, and I like all three of it's tints.
>Pay 10 bucks
>And now I own it.

>HotS 2.0 a month from now
>Emberlord Zul'jin looks neat, and I like all three of it's tints
>Pay 10 bucks
>Open 10 bucks worth of Loot Boxes
>Fuck I only got 70 Shards out of that.
>Pay 10 more bucks
>Fuck I only got 20 shards out of that
>Pay 10 more bucks
>LATER...
>Nice, I can finally afford Emberlord Zul'jin... but only one of it's tints...

You cannot buy skins anymore. You have to buy loot boxes to get Shards which you use to buy skins, and not only that, but you have to buy each tint separately.
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>>172479581
The blind and lightning orb are fucking stupid and are nothing like the amazon in D2.
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>>172481050
You can't buy shards. To get shards you have to buy chests AND wait for duplicates (you can't "dust" shit you don't want). In the end you'll spend more money to get shit you want.
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>>172481293
Take it all
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>>172481190
You do, even if you haven't unlocked them yet. I just think it's totally lame people are arguing that they're part of the value of having a high level account.
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Wait a minute. Most of the voice lines are already in the game, they're just move command lines. Does this mean we're actually getting ROBBED of the current voice lines?
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>This trainwreck of an update has been in the work for at least a 2 years
I don't even know why I'm laughing anymore, but I am
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>>172481197
I meant gems. You can buy gems and buy anything in the shop with them.

Watch the progression video when talking about currencies.

https://youtu.be/lrZCVxc-zkY
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>>172481328
Shh goy

Don't forget about the vast amount of gems we give you just for playing

>>172481565
No of course not, we just withdraw it from you temporarily. You can have them back for the small sum of $9.99
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>>172481620
I don't see whats funny about it tbqh.
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>>172481328
>>172481381
>What are gems

Can you faggots stop talking out of your ass and at least understand what it is that you're arguing about?

Gems = real currency now. You can buy gems with real money. Anything you can buy in the shop, you can buy with gems.

Fucks sake
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>>172481365
The Blind is just her Inner Sight spell, except with a Blind instead of a Defense reduction like it is in D2.

The Lightning Orb is something they made up, but it's entirely in the theme of the Amazon as she is a lightning slinger.
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>>172481620
Heroes of Andromeda.
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>>172481852
>>172481660
retards that didn't read the patch notes
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>no fel queen chromie announcer
ONE JOB
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>>172481852
>Anything you can buy in the shop, you can buy with gem
Dumbfaggot we are already covered that. >>172471353
Gemshekels are NOT your friends.
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>>172481852
>buy some gems with 10 bucks
>can only afford 1/3rd of what 10 bucks used to get you
>get 10 cents every level
Good system, paying players btfo
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>>172481660
>>172481852

Refer to
>>172471353
>>172471956

With gems, you can ONLY buy heroes, bundles, loot boxes, stimpaks and items that are listed under the Featured tab.
>>
Tychus announcers hnggg
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>>172482036
?

In the progression video I posted he clearly says you purchase gems with real money and they act as real currency and you can purchase anything in the shop with them.
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>less than a day and /vg/tards are already memespewing factually incorrect bullshit thinking it's hilarious
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>>172482216
Yeah, it's sad watching these people act like blizzdrones like it's some funny joke to defend bad moves by a company.
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>>172482456
>>172482216
where the fuck do you think we are?
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Gems have replaced real money as the primary currency in Heroes of the Storm.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Additional Gems can be purchased using real money in the Gem Shop.

>Additional Gems can be purchased using real money in the Gem Shop.
>Newly released Skins and Mounts will also be purchasable using Gems for several weeks following their arrival to the Nexus.

What the fuck are you retards sperging over? Any old skins you want now, buy now. Any new ones you want will be available for gems.
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>>172482209
The guy in the video only said "And anything else available for purchase!", yet everywhere else Skins are excluded from the list of things Gems get you, UNLESS they are under the Featured tab. Furthermore, out of all of this footage and screenshots from the new system, not a single one of them depicts skins and mounts as having a Gem cost, only Shards.
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>>172482216
No Anon, YOU are the fake news.
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>>172482209
>whatever the current shityear it is
>still believing in jewizzard lies
Fuckbrain, don't you get it? They are after your money and they are devious.
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>>172482209
In the video you linked

https://youtu.be/lrZCVxc-zkY?t=174

It says it replaces real money currency, but they say you can buy heroes, loot crates, stimpacks or anything else available for purchase. Skins are not available for purchase. It does not say skins.
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>5 shards for a common duplicate
>20 shards for a rare duplicate
>buying a common cost 40 shards
>buying a rare cost 100 shards
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>>172465354
That's quite a bit of good though.
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haha here having 70 chests and be thankful we aren't taking your skins and mounts away :)

it's not fair otherwise! a new player playing as much as you should get a whole lot more but the skins and mounts you've earned by playing a whole lot and supporting this game surely make up for the difference to those thousands of gems, hundreds of crates and all those free skins :)
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>>172482734
Meanwhile Redditards praising Blizzard for making a chest system that is better than in Overwatch. When it's literally the same fucking shit.
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why the FUCK is the rainbow unicorn listed under "horses" instead of "magical mounts" this garbage is literally unplayable
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>>172482876
Except worse because it makes sense for Overwatch, with only a dozen or so characters.

This system is absolutely FUCKED for a MOBA.
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>>172482734
Well, we'll get fuck tons of chests and fucktons of dupes, so even if it is 20 shards per box, that's a new skin every 5 levels.
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>>172482603
>UNLESS they are under the Featured tab
Is that true? On the ptr when you go to the featured tab you can only buy heroes with gems, you don't have the option to buy skins or mounts with gems.
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How much gems is a chest?
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>>172482793
If you genuinely feel like a new player gets the better deal out of this, feel free to make a new account. Then you'll get just the same thing as a new player.
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>>172482950
Is a "magical" horse.
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>>172482601
drone defending a garbage unnecessary change made to milk the costumers even more.
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>>172483117
Real money/gems purchases are disabled on 2.0 PTR.
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>>172483130
That's my favourite reddit argument.
>if you think new players have it better just discard all the time you've put into this game ;)
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>>172483130
But a new player has to play through all the tutorials and AI games before you can even start. I think if I was desperate enough to start over I'd rather quit entirely.
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>>172483340
You can clearly see the gem icon under probius, but not under the lucio skin.
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>>172483120
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>>172483340
>gems purchases

I just bought Cassia with gems.
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>>172483284
Seriously, I witnessed blizzdroning before, but not on this scale. At least this time there's sizeble counterpush.
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HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU GUYS ENJOYING THIS HOTS V2.0. FUCKING NORMIES REEEEE

>FAGGOT SPRAYS
>PLAYER PROGRESSION, WHO GIVES A FUCK
>LOOT FUCKING CRATES
>STILL HAVEN'T FIXED MATCHMAKING
>NO UTHER UPDATE
>DEV LITERALLY SAYING "i think we can all agree that proper skin/mount color coordination is the main key to winning"

THIS GAME IS FUCKING GARBO

REEEEEE
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>>172483492
>>172483424
Ok I legit don't understand what is real anymore.
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>>172481968
I think it might be a more reliable stand in for that lightning spear that bounces off walls.
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>Caring this much about cosmetics
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>>172460645
>not wanting cool shit like an Oblivion Drone with the sounds and everything.
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>>172482201
That's not true. The only thing it says you'd be able to buy under the featured tab with gems are things like bundles. Everything else in the shop can be bought with gems. It says this on the website and in the video.
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>>172483585
Dota2 looking more and more appealing every day. Gotta buy a track suit and install that shit.
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>>172483723
I'm moreso annoyed by the fact that if I want a skin, I cannot flat out buy it. I instead have to buy a bunch of fucking loot boxes and hope I get enough Shards to get it.

And then repeat the fucking process for the other two tints. Unbelievable.
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>>172483585
Banners are a good addition. It's like an extra "fuck you" to the enemy team when they think they'll be safe leaving Zul'jin, Probius, or Azmodan in lane uncontested for more than 15 seconds.
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>>172483443
Iron Fist + Way of One Hundred Fists = BERSERKER BARRAGE
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Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.
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>>172483694
You've always been able to buy new heroes with money on the PTR, the purchase is transferred to your account once it goes live. Im not sure if they changed that recently or if buying something with gems will transfer that to your live account in the new system.
>>
Fair thing now would make all heroes base free, shitty memegame

Charging shekels for literally anything, more jewish than even lol
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>>172484141
Most skins were sold only when they were featured anyways
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>>172483948
DRILL CLAW
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>buy a stimpack for some money
>get punished for it by getting less chests now
Every time
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>tfw I've never spent a single penny on the game and none of the new currency changes affect me whatsoever because I don't pay money for digital cosmetics because I don't have clinical autism
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>(((gems)))
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>>172483825
The video said "And anything else for purchase!" but conveniently left out buyimg mounts or skins in the footage that was shown.

And where at on the site does it say that you can buy ANYTHING with gems? Because in the notes for 2.0 are this

>Gems can be used to purchase Heroes, Bundles, Loot Chests, Stimpacks, and Featured Items.

And pic fucking related. It's all RIGHT there.
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>kpoop poster
>not having clinical autism
yeah sure thing lmao
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>>172484376
>Have spent maybe $5 since I started in the alpha
>Don't care about the changes
>Looking forward to spamming "WAZZUP" as Gazlowe
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>>172483371
Then quit. It will be like getting 0 chests forever.

>>172483351
Because they literally don't have it better. You only think they have it better because you assume they'll be playing as much as you.
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>>172483284
>unnecessary change made to milk the costumers even more.

Are people literally retarded?
Exactly how does a system that allows you to get things previously accessible ONLY by using real money, without actually using real money something made to milk you?

Fucking hell, this is /v/ levels of retarded.
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>>172472941
le meme frog
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>>172484448
So, if you want skins buy them for real money now and buy them with gems when they are released and featured.
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>>172484661
I mean, why would it be wrong to assume that when you've played as much as you have?
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>>172484661
>get shit easier
>I don't get shit for the time I played
How do they not have it better? Each minute played by someone joining in 2.0 is worth a lot more than the time I spent before the patch hit,
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>>172484448

There's a fucking section below it were it says new skins and mounts will be available for gems for a while after they release and old skins will get rotated onto a "featured skins" thing.

I'm not thrilled about the new loot box system, but Jesus Christ people are going full fucking retard over this and any attempt to quell their autistic rage gets you a (You) and a Blizzdrone insult.
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>>172484839
Because the game is gonna die long before players starting in April get to the number of hours you put in.
>>
If you've played to level 700 your time is 10x less valuable than a new players. The more you've played the harder rewards are going to be to get in the future as well.
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>>172484801
Basically, yeah. However it's unnecessarily restrictive. What's the point in that? Oh wait, to push you into buying something as it comes out because you know you won't be able to get it for god knows how long after that, assuming you're looking to spend money.

The entire system is basically saying "Just play our game, we'll give you these things, albeit over a long period of time, but still. And if you want to spend money, well then spend it on our terms or fuck yourself, we need players."
>>
BUY NOW LIMITED TIME ONLY!
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>>172476523
m8 he's insulting you because you're dumb, not because you posted anime. Idiots who deflect to the argument being about some anime picture are just proving the point

I know the post is 2 hours old but this pisses me off
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>>172485071
Yep, they are just learning from their limited time holiday skins/mounts. This is just a way to make basically everything a limited time holiday skin.
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>>172485047
It's also heavily skewed towards people who only played 1 role or only a small number of heroes.
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>>172484956
It might, but it sure would be a shame. Far as I'm concerned HotS is the only good Blizzard game left.
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2 new heroes coming up

one is genji who is the other
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>>172485047
>your time is 10x less valuable than a new players

Yet I have 10x more shit, have had fun playing the game in the meantime and have more knowledge about the game than the bumbling babies that will come.

>but m-mmuh rewards

If you need that kind of validation then get a life, its literally useless shit.
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>>172485247
Maiev
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>>172485071
Oh, and I forgot to add how it's even more of a "FUCK YOU WITH YOUR FUCKING MONEY" because now one skin equals three. Each tint is now it's own "Skin", which is retarded.
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So can someone explain again what to do and what not to do in preparation for 2.0?

From what I understand I should avoid leveling up heroes in general, at best only play heros above level 10
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>>172484186
You can get the heroes from loot crates. Which sucks for me because I already have all the heroes.
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>>172484753
>the customers
>you
sure is retarded
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>>172485247
Overmind, its a big hero because the banner for it is fucking big.
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>>172485360
If a hero is under level 9, don't bother playing them.
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>>172485120
No shit? Are you autistic? yes you are
The POINT is that oldfags do not use the words "dumb anime poster"
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>>172485285
My second most like reddit blizzdrone argument
>playing for rewards is such a dumb thing to do
>you're well rewarded in some arbitrary shit new players will get equal worth of for reaching level 100
A new players is getting rewards, how is it fair that people who played and kept this game alive aren't getting the same?

Especially after Blizzard told us we will be rewarded.
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>>172482734
That's the rate in Hearthstone.
Be thankful it's just cosmetic garbage and not shit you actually need to play the game.
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>>172485285
>Yet I have 10x more shit
That's not true, they are adding a lot of new shit. It's not 1 to 1 in that way with all the new stuff being added your ability to get the new things is going to take longer than a new players because you have already leveled a bunch of heroes and the leveling after the first 8 or so levels of each hero is a lot slower to get additional player levels.
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>>172460248
>That Kharazim skin that is obvious Wolverine reference, including the hair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ZjNVnOQxQ
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>>172485432
Thats actually great because I never saw reason to play anything past level 9
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>>172485584
They need to add prestige to heroes instead of just having them level up indefinitely, that is the only way to really make it fair so you can reset their level at like level 50 or something for the easy early rewards.
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>>172485404
Not a typo but you get the point.
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>>172485360
Don't bother playing at all.
Only do ai quests, get as few xp as possible. You don't want to fuck yourself over by gaining levels which could put over a X00 or X25/50/75 threshold.

Even getting xp with a hero over 10 could fuck you up. Only play heroes you have at 20.
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Is Ragnaros becoming the Irelia of HotS?

It seems like no matter how much they nerf him they still can't knock him down.
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>>172460248

>Play God King Leoric
>Any tries to take any objective

NO BLACKHEART! I TOO HAVE PROVEN MY WORTH! THIS ENEMY TEAM DARE NOT CHALLENGE MY CLAIM TO THE DOUBLOONS!
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>>172485817
They've only given him tiny nerfs, he hasn't really had any big nerfs
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>All of this new garbage cluttering up the shop, and yet we still don't have the ability to purchase previous login screens to customize our Main Menu screen with.
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>>172485817
He just has too much. It's like they designed a specialist kit but when they decided he should be an assassin they just doubled his damage values.
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>>172485817
>Rek'sai
>Nidalee

I'm just glad we don't have that blind bald fuck of infinite mobility.
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>>172460248
I can't into Blizzard lore, what the fuck is Leoric supposed to be?
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>>172485965
Lunara title screen WHEN!?!
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>>172485983
hikku
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>>172486020
Diablo skeleton king.

I think he just works well with the Warcraft Vrykul theme, which is why he has been getting all the skins.

>tfw vrykul hero
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>>172485247
Kel'Thuzad or Imperius.
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do we have an alive discord for making hots friends and to lewd post?
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>>172486208
As if.

Have more overwatch or warcraft meme heroes
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>>172485247
D.Va
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>>172486020

He's supposed to be God King Skovald from Legion who became an Omega Meme because of the retarded way he just shows up and has a dumb speech about he's more worthy than you when he's done literally fuck all and just followed you.
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>>172485071
Sure, but it also gives you infinitely more free shit, including skins.
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Honestly, I think the infinite lootboxes from there not being a max level cap is gonna make up for the fact that we didn't get as much stuff as we theoretically could have.
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>>172486881
No, getting so few boxes is simply unacceptable.
Especially since they rewards between hero level 400, 600 and 800 ae so small
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Just from the 6 boxes I got from the Beta on PTR, I got three new skins (master stitches, master sylv and ironclaw rehgar).

That's a lot of shit.
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>>172487059
Yeah, I got like 9 skins and 3 heroes. One of those skins was Legendary as well.
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>>172486982
Only because you are comparing it to a reality that never existed instead of the reality we had yesterday where if you wanted any cosmetics besides master skins and random mounts, you had to fork over dosh.
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>>172485352
That's what league does with chromas, after hots was giving out the skin tints league later added them in chromas that you have to buy for each skin. So it's a good way to get people to buy more stuff.
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>>172486881
tfw wont get 5 the epic quality crates with a guaranteed item for your main you're level 20 with
tfw losing any exp you gained 'past' level 20
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>>172487130
Oh whoops, I should say I rerolled a bunch to test it out. This was the result. They're honestly being kind of generous with these drop rates.
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>>172484361
>SSS now makes Kharazim yell SO LONG BUB, FATAL CLAW
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>>172487142
No, I'm comparing it to the reality that people who played a lot less than me will get a lot more for the same time invested.

And to add ontop of that there is blizzard's blatant lying.
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Haha, sick. It is Mega Love.
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>legendary skins cost 1600 shards for each color
yikes
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>recolors have to be purchased now
>even the basic ones that you used to get for leveling heroes
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>>172487663
A reality that doesn't exist, yes. Unless you quit the game right now or stop playing regularly, no new player is gonna match the time you put in.

If you and a new player play at the same pace starting when HOTS2.0 happens, you will still always be ahead.
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>Nazeebo is incredibly fun
>Even though his abilities take a fucking huge amount of time to activate fully
Why? Is it the toads? It's gotta be the toads.
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>>172487968
Good thing only Alarak's and Leoric's third recolors are good in the whole game.
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>>172460248
>>172485875
>>172486020
>>172486503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmP0hj9ZjDg
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>>172487939
>>172487968
Yeah, THIS fucking shit needs to change somehow. THIS is true jewery.
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>>172488056
It's the spiders you fool
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>>172485596
wow anon, did you figure that out all by yourself?
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>tfw don't understand how banners work

Sooo, they're just placed on forts/keeps you capture?
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>>172488880
camps too. just for looks.
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I have never participated in any Blizzard Betas, is there any chance that people who play the Beta and give feedback to the devs receive something?
I know items won't transfer but is it likely that we might get some kind of bonus? Gems, a lootbox, anything.
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>>172488880
>>172488983
>Fancy deco for shit nobody cares about after you take it
lmao
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>>172488880
Its a "xXFaggotXx wuz here" thing
So for instance, say your team is being useless, fighting against the other team while you push lanes like a baller, you can then say "but look at their destroyed forts, they all have my banner!"
Same with camps
I kinda like it with abathur tho
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>>172488995
As of right now you get nothing. In the original beta you got a portrait and got the wonder billy for making a purchase on the shop.
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>>172488880
You last hit a fort, capture a camp or secure an objective it places your banner automatically.
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>>172488995
Nope.
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>>172489234
>>172489282
Oh well.
I'll probably just stick to Live version and buy heroes then, I guess.
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Does anyone else REALLY dislike the new skin changes?
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>>172489150
It would be neat as a kind of calling card for your enemies to trip over when they try to go to camps, if camps didn't advertise their status on the map.
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>really like Lunara
>enable sound
>she seems like a stuck-up bitch

Damn it.

Also her new skin looks a little goofy.
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>>172489567
Them being split into separate purchases kinda hurts. Master skins no longer tell progression, actually nobody ingame can tell that you're a pro Abathur or something and wont quit whining about it.
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Maybe I should join the bitching side and we might actually get more lootboxes if we bitch enough.

I guess there's no harm. Like Pascal's Wager.
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>>172489567
I don't really care, because I was never planning on spending money on this game in the first place.
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>>172489567
I can't stand the split they did for skins.
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>>172489567
My only complaint is what >>172489674 said about Master Skins, the whole purpose of them is now moot.
Literally everything else is an improvement as far as I'm concerned though.
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>>172489567
and by that I mean the whole tints thing, it really sucks
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>>172485503
Its an insult. Its supposed to sting, which it clearly did.

But people always turn it into a discussion about whether or not anime belongs here, even though all he did was call you a dumb animeposter.
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so what's the box thing? people with lots of leveled heroes can only get a max of 70 crates no matter what?
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WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT CASSIA?
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>>172489674
>>172489806
Were master skins ever really a good metric in the first place, though? I've played with and against plenty of shit players running those kinds of skins in every moba I've played.
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So they made a bunch of epic skins legendary:

- Pajamathur
- Earth Breaker Thrall
- Demonic Auriel
- Prototype Dehaka
- Pirate falstad
- Specter Illidan
- Gingerdread nazeebo
- sugar plumb Sylvanas
- judgement uther
- Desert Queen Zagara

there are a lot of others too that were just upgraded to legendary so they cost 1600 shards for each color instead of 400 as epic
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>>172490008
too busy bitching about loot crates
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should i finnish my lvl9 heroes and buy master skin on live or wait to release 2.0 ?
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>>172490008
GRANDMAZON IS OLD AND BUSTED! But she's fun, nothing too spectacular but she looks great and plays great.

D.Va when?!
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>>172489915
I've played 1500 matches, and if I reset my account or started a new one after the update I'd be getting 200 crates in tenth of the time, on top of 30 bucks worth of ingame currency, instead of "only" getting 55 crates and nothing else.
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So what's the day 1 consensus on Cassia?
Any talent builds?

I've found her to be a giant pain in the fucking ass with her Q poke.
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>2 weeks ago
>"hurr master skins don't mean anything only scrubs buy them"
>new loot system made
>"OMG MASTER SKINS MEAN NOTHING NOW GG BLIZZARD IM SO MAD"
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>>172490008
I think everybody is just worrying about the new loot/progression system.
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>>172490170
Grandmazon is fun and cute! I want her to tell me bedtime stories about all the demons she's slain.
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>>172490071
They were the closest thing we had to showing that we're experienced, and right now we've got nothing. No hero levels on loading screen, no special icons or emblems or golden names, nothing.
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>>172490084
>Ghost Spectre Illidian
>Bootleg of a bootleg skin
Wow
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>>172487276
>They're honestly being kind of generous with these drop rates
Expect the drop rates to be worse on live. They also have 60+ heroes so if the drop rates are low it's going to be fucking impossible to get the skins you want without using shards for everything
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>>172490170
Are her Q and E builds any good?
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>>172490160
Heroes are worth more than master skins. Do buy any master skins you actually want though, it will be a nightmare trying to get a specific skin as a random drop
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>3 threads in one day

My god.
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>>172490084
To be fair for the Spectre Illidan, they actually added a lot to that skin since it came out. When I bought it in the alpha it changed nothing but the appearance, but then they added the voice lines and the new animations for each attack.
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>>172490330
>They were the closest thing we had to showing that we're experienced

You know what also gives this impression?

Being good.
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>>172490748
I don't think the voice lines are new, they are just kind of changed to sound like they are coming over an intercom.
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>>172490071
other's opinion wasn't the point it's more personal. people liked earning them, even as much as the consensus is that there are only a few good ones. something that should have been common sense to not fuck with, like how emphasized the uncapped levels then went ahead and said fuck everyone who leveled everything for gold and capped the loot boxes.

>>172490008
looks like nothing to worry about. pretty standard zul'jin type release. ball heroic was kind of out of left field but pretty good picks on the main skills and keeping valkyrie involved.
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>>172490783
No, not the right game for it.
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If ones HotS account has little to no real money invested in it, it's better just to make a new account for 2.0 right?
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>>172459527
genju?
who dat
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>>172490994
The more heroes you have around or above level 7-8 the better it is to just start a new account. I'm assuming a lootbox costs $1 a pop, so that's no less than $7 lost per hero.
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>>172490450
At a first glance I think her play style is similar to Greymane where you poke from afar and dive in for a kill and a lot of her talents seem quite situational so it will depend on what you're fighting against but I may lean towards Fend builds.

I've only played her a couple of times but she seems great vs a team of auto-attackers.
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>>172490994
Yeah, you get loot boxes faster and more gem currency
>>
The only real tangible downside to the new system is losing the ability to buy old skins, which can be immediately solved by buying what you want right now I guess.

Personally I think most of the skins in this game are total ass and are not worth even a quarter of what they charge, I might feel differently if I get one free out of a box though.

I might buy the Lunar Li-Ming/Jaina skins though just because those are becoming seasonal only.
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>>172490994
>>172491142
Yea make your new account, and see how many loot boxes you'll get more than people who don't start a new account. I'll just stick on my account with all of my heroes, though.
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>>172490994
What is your player level? If it's lower than 70 it's probably better to keep the account. You lose a box for each level above 70
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>>172491331
The amount of skins and heroes obviously decreases how worth it it is. Either way we're getting fucked in the ass. I wonder if they do account xp resets as I'll definitely opt for one.

>>172491367
Anon, the DEFAULT player level is 64...
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>>172490415
>it's going to be fucking impossible to get the skins you want without using shards for everything

I want prime evil Diablo, it's 1600 shards. For a duplicate hero from a crate I only got 20 shards. Shit's gonna take forever
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>>172491367
>tfw 500
>suddenly regretting all that AFK training

Oh, well.
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Have they fixed probe turret colors
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>>172491367
how do you tell player level, it shows up as zero when i log onto the beta client
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>>172491367
>You lose a box for each level above 70
rip
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>>172491486
Depends on what hero and what dupe skin.
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>>172491367
No, that's not how it works. You need to have 1000 hero level to lose boxes.
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>>172491331
>66 heroes
>leveling all to 4 takes like 3 games each
>get to over level 250 with that alone
Meanwhile the account of level 10 heroes you kept, you get like 50 levels worth from the same amount of time at best
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>>172491331
>i'll say characters but actually mean my special portraits and old mounts.
that's the trap they were counting on ^_^

just forget there are 14 characters on rotation and gold is easier than ever.
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>>172491672
Just check it on your profile in the main game, it will be under your player level
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>>172491670
>0
like does the purifer skin have white turrets now
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>>172491879
No, you get a box for EVERY level.
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>>172491157
>poke from afar and dive in for a kill
That's what I was thinking, similar to Pantheon from League

Is it easy for the enemy to walk out Fend, seeing as it has no CC attached to it?
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I wonder if someone could run the numbers.

Assuming that all your bitching is warranted, at some point a new player will overtake a seasoned player in terms of rewards due to it supposedly being so much faster to level up.

How long would it take before the new player overtakes the seasoned player if they play at the same rate?
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>>172492207
For future levels, not current ones. Read the part called "Cashing In".
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>>172492263
>due to it supposedly
It's not supposedly, going from level 1 to 5 on a hero is a lot faster than going from level 10-15
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>>172492207
You get an epic box for each 100 levels. So yes you "lose" out on meme veteran boxes if you are below lvl 100. In the end though you get more the lover level you are so being 1000 hurts you massively.
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>>172491879
No, you have to have hero level 1000 to even get all of the compensation crates of epic variety. You're losing 1 crate per level, a rare crate per 5 and and epic crate per 25 levels.
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999 games

Who to play for 1000? I'm thinking my first love Kerrigan.
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>>172492409
... by what fucking logic are you losing levels? If the hero is at a certain level (like 7 or something), you will be able to get boxes at the exact same rate once the update hits regardless.
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>>172492452
use your absolute favorite hero, anon
>>
Heroes under level 10 are the ones that actually matter because they require much less exp to level up compared to the flat exp requirement after level 10. If you have heroes at level 9-10 on live right now, you can get more of those 70 shitty boxes if you raise those heroes levels to get a higher account level. Everything past 10 will take just as long to level so while you won't get boxes for their levels as the patch hits, it's not technically wasted time since leveling them will take just as long after it

Any heroes under level 9 you should not play until the patch hits. It's also possible level 8 heroes get boosted past level 10 after the patch so those might be "ok" to play too
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>>172492346
You get a maximum of 70 loot boxes, so you lose a box for each level after 70. So the easy early hero levels you already did you lose out on the easier boxes.
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>>172492263
Level 200 at the latest.

>>172492452
Don't play real games now until the patch hits. You should only do AI ones for quests or if you have a lvl 20 play them.
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>>172492382
But mathematically, at one point would the new player overtake the seasoned player?

If it is that dramatic effect (ie. 640 boxes, assuming 1 box for each level up to 10 at which point the increased rate tapers off, per hero), when will the new player be better off?
>>
>>172492594
You don't even get 70 boxes if you are level 70.
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>>172492564
Kerrigan it is.

>>172492627
Why? is there some bonus for 1000 games player that I'll miss?
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>>172492627
>You should only do AI ones for quests or if you have a lvl 20 play them.

I only play AI matches and brawls anyway.
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>>172492781
Yes, if you go up 70 levels you get 70 boxes because you get one box per level, every 5th level you will get a rare box and every 25 levels it will be epic.
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>>172492263
Depends how well they spread their time. They need 250 account levels to get 10 epic boxes but they also get 40 rare boxes and 200 commons and 1500 gems. To get 250 account levels all they have to do is get every hero to around level 4
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>>172492528
Then why aren't they giving me the crates I earned until level 11, which is the point the level rates become constant? Instead I'm getting barely 7 heroes worth, and excluding the hero specific guaranteed epic drop crate and any ingame currency. I'm literally losing 64 * 7 (or 10) fastly earned crates.
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>>172492382
Didn't they say that 1 to 5 is going to be made slower?

Like they said they won't retroactively nerf your XP if your characters are below 5, but 1-5 now requires more XP than before.
10-15 also requires drastically less XP, and post 12 XP stops needing more.
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>>172492805
No but you don't want any of your heroes to level up. Remember that after the patch the xp for hero levels is different so even one game now could fuck you over massively. For example if it puts you on XX1. But even if you go from 520 to 521 it hurts you by making you miss an easy chest.

You want to get as few xp as possible. Getting none while doing your quests is the best thing you can do.
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>>172492980
Yes it will be but it's still tons faster to go from 1-10 than from 11-20.
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>>172492980
There are no exp values but it won't really be that much more, probably 2 games or something
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>>172492980
It only plateaus at 11, all the levels are not the same. It's less xp from 1-10 than from 11+ where it maxes out. The early levels are still a lot faster
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>>172492904
Only for levels gained after the update hits. Not before.
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>>172481968

This. Also isn't Lighting Orb a Demon hunter skill or something, I can't remember. Valla already took away Strafe from her so it's only fair Cassia gets a kit that completely allows her to rape her.
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>>172493302
Yes, but you still lose out on the early leveling you did so the more hero levels you have the slower your gains will be. That is the point, you are losing a lot of boxes the higher your level is.
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>>172458775
>mfw Ghost Tracer

Absolutely tip-top skin.
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>>172493321
DH does have a skill that is an orb of lightning, but it was more like frost orb than this bouncing thing.
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>>172493423
Given that boxes are ultimately infinite, it seems silly to talk about losing boxes at all.

I don't get how the fuck any of ya'll have any early leveling to do anyway.
>>
^ look at this retard
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>>172493723
>I don't get how the fuck any of ya'll have any early leveling to do anyway.
that's the point because early leveling is faster
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>>172493723
>I don't get how the fuck any of ya'll have any early leveling to do anyway.
That's the problem, everyone already leveled all their heroes to level 5 or higher so they miss out on a lot of easy levels that would get them lots of boxes
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>>172493540

Ah, still, I'm not as annoyed with amazon having new skills as I was with Xul having a random scythe and 2 skills dedicated to it out of nowhere. At least the amazon's seem like something she might have actually picked up over the past 20 or 30 years.
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>>172493065
Got it. Grinding for xp is bad, right now before the patch.
>>
>>172493975
>>172493921
Yeah, so there's really no harm in playing the game before April 18th.

Honestly, based on the beta and the amount of rerolls and loot just six boxes have, I am gonna have more cosmetic shit than I can use.

As in, literally more than I can use unless I devote myself to making sure I get one game with every single tiny bit.
>>
>>172493065
Going from 520 to 521 won't really change much, could even argue you get one level closer to the next epic box. This is assuming whatever hero you leveled was over level 10
>>
FAIR system
15 and 20 on a hero gives you a hero crate each
1-5 on a hero gives you 1-5 crates any higher will still give you only 5 crates
Rare for 25, 50, 75 and 100. From there every 50 levels for 1
Epic chest for 50, 100, 150 and 200. After that you get one for every 100 levels.
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>>172494446
You do miss out on a crate you could've gotten by just playing the game 2 weeks later than now.
>>
So who should be the next D2 class character?

I'm gonna say Paladin because we need more supports.
>>
>>172494861
D2 druid motherfucker.
>>
>>172494689
Well yeah, but you aren't exactly losing anything play now if your hero is over level 10, if you want to play. You can obviously just quit playing for a month if it's so important your time isn't "wasted"
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>>172494930

I would REALLY like that but I feel like they'd have to make like Windy Druid because Pets and Were transformation concepts is probably taken up Rexxar and Graymane.
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Cheerleader skins are out.

Comes with new walking/riding animations, new /dance and new hearthstone animation.
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>>172495098
Hey, psst.

You select your trait at level 1 and it defines your skillset and build
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>>172495372

Could be cool if they actually did multiclass with him, I was kinda hoping they did something like that with Sorceress where you choose your element at the beginning and you run with it for the rest of the game.
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>>172495369
Good.
>>
How do you use the sprays or voicelines?
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>>172495369
Looks terrible in that icon

>>172495615
I think it was x
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someone tell me what to think
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>>172495802
>>172495802
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>>172488090
Artanis and Zeratul's third colors are good.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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