World of Warships Admiralty /wowsg/

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>Explode

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>they haven't gotten a solo warrior yet

>>172387223
kinda fucking obnoxious desu

>>172388041
>kinda

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>>172388041
>not playing with as many anime mods as you can find

Hood looks like such a nice ship, but not the kind of play style I like.

>>172387223
Who doesn't have multiple Solo Warriors?

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>French BB line still not released

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>Don't play for a week
>come back
>4 games in a row with 2 top tier afk BBs on my team

cool game nice I love it really fun excellent

I can't wait to shit on Kaga in my Saipan and Hiryu

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>>172385260

>>172392106
Submarines could be interesting but way too niche.
Very few times you could effectively use them.
The were in the Battlestations games and were balanced in an interesting way, but I would still prefer a surface ship nearly every time.

>>172392561
With the game how it is, I just can't see submarines being plausible.

Infinite torpedoes, effectively no dud-range, torpedoes that appear seconds before impact.

Even if subs traveled at 10-15km, they would be a bit too powerful on many maps.

>>172392106
>The Shchukas suffered heavy losses during the war. The Baltic, Black Sea and Northern Fleets lost 60–70% of their submarines. However, the submarines of the Pacific Fleet did not suffer any losses to the Japanese due to the tranquil nature of the theatre (military operations commenced only in the autumn of 1945 when the Japanese fleet largely was defeated). Three submarines were, however, lost to non-combat reasons.
Why was this chosen to be the first sub representative? Surely even the Russians had better.

>>172392106

>a ship sitting in port with a captain
>you can't take it into battle any kind of battle mode
>can't use it at all
>can't even look at in armor viewer

So it's basically just a free port slot that's going to be occupied until 6.4? That's pretty disappointing for the first April Fool's event I'm playing WoWs for desu.

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>>172392870
Should have been this, but they would never because russia stronk.

>>172392715
I wish there were a separate, perhaps co-op only, game-mode just for theme just so they could be in game eventually.

Alabama or NC?

>>172392715
*I had to delete and repost this because the grammar errors were bugging me.

I don't think they would work in World of Warships either.
There are just as many set backs to them as there are advantages.
Limited weapon arcs and ranges, lower situational awareness since all you have is a hydrophone and periscope, slow speed while submerged, and you have to surface to replenish the batteries and cycle in new air.
If you get detected, your only option is to dive. If you don't lose them then all you can do is go deeper, to which there is a limit.

>want the Alabama horribly bad
>don't want to spend money on this game
Fug

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>>172392870
>Surely even the Russians had better.
No.

>>172393285
I don't think that will be all. Just a trophy you look at sounds really lame when in the past WG has put effort into that stuff.

>>172394464
>What is K-Class
K-21 when

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Kaga stats

Survivability: 51000 hitpoints. Flight deck armour is 21mm throughout and citadel is protected by plates ranging from 95mm to 152mm. The torpedo bulges have a 22% damage reduction.

Maneuverability: At 28 knots maximum and a turning radius of 1080m and a rudder shift time of 13.17s. Not very impressive.

Concealment: Surface detection sits at 12.6km and air detection is higher at 13.62km.

Flight control: 024 with 21 torpedo Planes and 64 Dive bombers. Torpedo bombers have 4 planes per squadron and DB have 6 planes per squadron.

Alternative Flight control: 350 with 43 fighters and 42 torpedo planes. Fighters have 4 planes per squadron torpedo bombers have 2 planes per squadron.

Planes: Mitsubishi A6M2 as fighters. Nakajima B5N2 as torpedo bombers. Aichi D3A1 as bombers. All tier 6 standard.

Secondaries: not very impressive at only 4.5 km. ten 200mm casemate loading AP with a damage of 4900 and a reload of 15s. 4*2 12.7cm loading HE with 2100 alpha, 8% fire chance and 5 secs of reload.

AA: The 12.7 cm have a DPS of 81 at 5km and the (14*twin mounts) 25 mm have a DPS of 70 at 3.1km.

>>172395065
And a 100% chance of fire and citadel when hit on her big red dot by dive bombers.

>>172395065
shit WTF is that 350 load out WTF

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>>172395065

>5 torpedo squadrons
>2 torp planes per squadron

>autistic CV mains trapping you in a cage of torpedoes from every direction

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>>172395065
>>172396124

>>172396124
>Shitter battleships will still somehow manage to shoot all the planes down and dodge their torpedos

>>172392870
60% attrition rate for early war workhorse class is pretty common.

>>172396124
It's Tier 7 so enjoy all the AA and def fire.

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nvr4get

>>172396581

>one man's plea for mercy goes ignored

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>>172396527
I can't wait to shoot down a fuckton of Kaga squadrons with substandard AA because a bunch of retards will buy her.

>>172396581
I sympathize with him. CVs and their players are monsters who have no soul or conscience, sociopaths taking pleasure in causing pain to others. The powerful over the powerless.

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>>172397146

>>172395065
Dogfighting expert captain skill useful for Kaga?

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>>172397253
>>172397146
o wait that was the wrong double kill webm, my bad

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Playing around with some GK builds, what do you think would be most effective? Cheeky concealment mod and CE? MFC and IFHE? Or MFC and AFT?

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>Buy Kaga
>Lemming to AA CA

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JFMSU

>>172397146
I was playing the Konigsberg the other night and some shitter in a Hiryu would not leave me the fuck alone. Launching two waves of all his attack planes at me and I dodged all by one of his torps and bombs.
He contributed next to nothing for his team and they lost.

Seems like it's only the Jap CV players that do that shit too.

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>>172388341
1.8 sigma is shit though. She gets guns that are weaker AND less accurate than the rest of T7.

>>172393359
What a good looking bote

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>>172394464
K-class is a thing. Fairly equivalent to the USN Gato-class subs.

i'm a fan of this game i think!

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>>172394816
>>172400080
Why the hell did Wargaming not use either K-21 or Narodovolets as the April Fools submarine?

>>172400660
To troll you and others like you

>>172395065
>Mitsubishi A6M2
>no Reppuus
What a failure of a mule.

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>>172402526
>qt

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>>172402526
>tfw we will never have another one of these because next time it's bound to be spammed to hell.

It's that bloody ship game again

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>>172402526
>qt
>qt
>qt

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could this be the KV-2 of warships if they added it?

>>172402526
Why is jake so biased towards abrach/chain/hotel? Why is this allowed?

>>172403054
It will be the Mikasa of T6, but without the fun.

>>172403067
Because no one listens to me.

Jap destroyers are
CANCER

>>172385260
How close should I be when I fire torpedoes? I usually fire them between 2 to 3 kilometers away since I want to be sure of the kill, but I was thinking that might not work above Tier 3.

>>172403227
What should we do?

>>172403781
Git gud

What happened to the daily missions?

>>172404569
I can play without a crutch that makes me stay invisible for retarded ranges or without being able to throw torps 10km at 60+ knots.
Maybe those rice-eating shitters should git gud.

returning cbt player here, should i have a dedicated arkansasB captain or is flammus recommended montana build good enough?

>>172405289
If I remember well, flamu went for AFT.

I recommend you go for CE, Vigilance, SI and Adrenaline Rush.

Attention SEA: If you have WoT installed on your hard drive, login to WoT once (you don't have to enter battle), and you get 2 free days of premium account for WoWS.

>>172408569
How long will that promo last?

>>172408837
I have absolutely no idea. Sorry.

My guess is probably not for long, since it's compensation for WoT SEA server downtime.

>>172408569
can I make it in time if I install wot now?

>>172401201
So they troll us by NOT including the museum ship that literally sits in their own hometown?

nub requesting to join HOTEL on NA pls

>>172408569
Please be in Timor Leste

Умидoopй.

Hmm, Hood gets better bounce angle? They are almost as good as USN CA

Are any of you fugbois on SEA online and wanna div up right now?

Also
Is discord down again?

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>>172413431
This is rude.

>>172403227
What did he mean by this?

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>>172397483
I use secondary on everything German.
>http://shipcomrade.com/captcalc/0100100000000010000010001000100119

Upgrades are followed
>Main Armaments Modification 1
>Secondary Battery Modification 2
>Main Battery Modification 3
>Damage Control System Modification 1
>Steering Gears Modification 2
>Concealment System Modification 1

>>172413431
Umidoori?

>>172395065
Saipan>Hiryuu>Kaga>Ranger
Why must Ranger suffer?

>duck players pulling their hair out over the stealthfire nerf
Good job WG.

>>172405151
The crutch was passed to bb players and you'll notice it when you get perforated more often because your only stealth attack now is torping.

>>172397146
>CVs and their players
I have 13 ships in port and only 2 of them are cv's. Soon I will have 13 non-cv ships in port. When your ISP/WG server is shitting itself you are thankful for the lower fps req for cv's.

>>172389948
>4 games in a row with 2 top tier afk BBs on my team
Doubt.jpg

>>172387223
>Bragging about your results in a Pay to Win ship.
Ok.

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Hello /wowsg/ and welcome to today's edition of Eye on Autism, where we map /wowsg/ personalities on the spectrum. Unfortunately, we've only got one name, so get ready to get informed.

>Tioga060
Known as the most cancerous poster on /vg/, Tioga060 is persistent and will take his job seriously when it comes to shitposting, false flagging and samefagging. He jumps to different generals when people ignore and blacklists him (see WoTLabs, /wotg/ or any community that has dealt with him in the past). Scammed over 400k gold from a WoT clan and silently lurks forums, channels and communities to find something niche to post about other users. Tioga060 ages his Reddit, Twitch and WoTLab alt accounts like fine wine to avoid suspicion when he defends himself on different social platforms. Favorite scapegoats are former NTR members and everyone else.
>Traits
Social anxiety, paranoia, repulsive, chubby, hostile, misery, introvert, poor, self-absorption, social retardation
>Spectrum Index
100%

>>172419402
Anoo was right about Tioga.

>Playing CV
>Tier 7
>Oh look, I'm vs a Saipan, this will be *fun*
>Manage to lock up his fighters over a friendly vessel, they still kill all mine almost instantly in the dogfight, take like one casualty
>Wont even be able to lock them up post 6.3 patch, saipan squadrons can escape a dogfight without sustaining any loss

>>172419402
do one for Mosh(aka evelyn)

wow if jingles likes nier does that mean it's actually good and not just a meme?

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>SEA『BOTES』super ded

>>172420169
>19:34
Dude I'm having dinner

>>172419402
Epic, but today i've met tioga the o sixty in battle and he greeted me promptly; what a nice guy was he.
Would totally play with tioga.

>>172423023
Fuck off tioga.

>>172420101
Well... Arlios, Benlisquare, LunaticRed, Luger and Abrudolf all like Nier, so it's probably safe to say that it's a good game. Either that, or a lot of people in /wowsg/ are thirsty for android butts.

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>>172423275
But botebutt is superior.

>>172423334
stop posting loony's wife. go post your own wife and leave other people's wives alone.

>>172402838
when was the last stats posted?

>>172424375
Stats-kun has made a formal statement that he will no longer provide regular stats updates, because it impedes on his real life shenanigans.

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Congratulations on your promotion. Please shitpost more often on the WoWS forums now, since trial period is over and you don't have to worry about fake appearances anymore.

>>172424646
But it always gave me a boost of confidence, that at least someone in wowsg is worse than me.
And what am I going to do now? ;_;

>>172425369
>only 277 post

>>172425450
If you need the /wowsg/ stats table update that desperately, why not make one yourself, and regularly maintain it?

Jake's stated that it's too bothersome and tedious making bi-weekly updates.

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>>172425509
Yeah, why can't you be more like this guy?

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>>172425649
You left out one zero.

>>172425369
This confirms any mouth breathing retard can become a super tester.

>>172425869
Unless your name is Abrach, Hotel_a_QT, chain_chomp, Gaishu or akogare, Lunatic probably plays the game better than you.

>>172425869
He's far better than most of the STs out there.

>>172425869
Well they need opinion from super unicum to period blood player.

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>>172425782
>implying

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>>172426308
Woah!

>>172426361
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>>172426308
>300dpi screen resolution

Ask me how I know your name starts with "9mm". :^)

>>172426678
УMИДOOPИ

>>172426678
海洋之路
洋
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>>172426678
>>172426746
>>172426864
Do German!

>>172426896
SEIG HEIL
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>>172426896
Weg des Meeres!

>it's another mosh/"evelyn" thread

>>172426696
Good job you creepy stalking Benlis

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>>172427052
Now that you mention it...

I knew Mosh was behind all of this. Thanks for reminding me never to trust the eternal /wowsg/ Brit.

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>>172426696
>>172427189
Hey, I now know who is shitposting me!

>>172427189
>creepy stalking

Dude, you are literally the ONLY GUY in /wowsg/ who uses such a high pixel density display setting, and isn't a macfag.

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>>172427276
What if Umi is just Mosh's SEA alternate persona all along and he just out shitposted all of us by playing dumb

>>172427534
>Mosh has TWO alternative personas
>evelyn, and now umi

When will this British madman stop his reign of terror?

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>Turn the game on
>Remember I have to play myogi
>Turn the game off

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sushi is my waifu

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>>172427534
>>172427636
I didn't know I'm mosh. This shed some new light!

>>172427652
just free xp))))))))))))))))))))
support small family business)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>172427534
But Mosh is a baBBie who is shit at DDs. Whenever I see Umi in his Fubuki he plays quite decently, and Mosh would never pull IJN DDs off.

>>172427636
When someone pays him 45k gold and fills his stern with torps

>>172427636
>British
>ever not inflicting terror
Allah will not allow it!

>>172427715
Hello there Chou/DrEbolaChan.

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>>172427052
>>172427276
>>172427534
>>172427749

>>172427798
Heeey, I'm not bad at DD's!
I just prefer to play German Battleships is all, I like the playstyle

>>172427652
I enjoyed Myogi more than Kongou

>you will never afford buying 45k doubloons
>mosh will never come to your home dressed as taigei or kashima, and tenderly love you with his rectum

why bother living?

>>172419692
>can escape a dogfight without sustaining any loss
Escaping automatically costs you one plane, say patchnotes. E- for reading comprehension.

>>172428874
You're the one with the reading comprehension issues. Patchnotes state that Saipan won't lose any planes when disengaging from a dogfight.

Sub_octavian said that this is because it would be "unfair" for Saipan to lose one of its 3 fighters.

>>172419402
>>Spectrum Index
>100%
No such thing as % in the DSM V. Your Mengele fantasies are creepy and I want you to leave.

>>172428874
Every CV except Saipan)))))))))
Buy premium ships, goy.
And since apparently Kaga will get 2 plons per squad Kaga also won't be affected

>>172428874
>E- for reading comprehension.
The irony here.

>>172428981
He just made a spoof of one of Tioga's posts from the previous thread that talked about Prec, Hotel and Lunatic. That means that Tioga was the one who came up with the fake percentage measure.

Why's NA drama so unwatchable

>>172429069
The madman.

>>172429162
because it's always the same people being autistic shitposters
there's a reason they got banned from all the WoTg clans and teamspeaks and shit, but we can't do the same here because people are cucks.

>>172428791
>not mosh cosplaying as a meido kashima

>>172429253
>They

How the fuck is Tioga suddenly "they"?

>>172429368
Its a they.

>>172429368
is that a wrong statement?

>>172429368
third person unspecified singular

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>>172428791
>>172429291
Kashima is a good girl, and fluffy whales are for cuddling

>>172429368
>letting him jerk off over someone posting his name

>>172428791
>wanting someone who very clearly looks like a man in a skirt to give you below average gay sex
What are you? Gay?

>>172429476
>kashima is a good girl
these 45k doubloons will make you say otherwise.

>>172429476
>kashima is a good girl
>you literally spent 3 months in a /vitagen/ discord with a kashima display picture pretending to be a girl, and wasting people's orgasms

>>172429650
Wait, wut?

>>172429476
>Being slutty and equally useless is "good"

>>172429650
Anon, are you one of them homosexuals they keep talking about on the TV?

>>172429782
I don't know, I never paid my TV license.

>>172429838
>TV license.
what

>>172429886
It is UK thing

>>172428971
So why the fuck not just have Saipan NOT GET ACCESS TO THE ESCAPE FUNCTION?

>>172431669
Hard to code (((((
Wouldn't want to upset paying customer

What would be the optimum way to respec IJN and ))))) CAs?

>>172432250
Why would you need to?

>>172432250
by not changing your builds at all

>there are people that are going to think CE is useless on cruisers/DDs now because they can't stealthfire now

>>172432885
Great, more food for me

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>Kiev and 2 Akatsuki take turn smoke me and Atlanta as we advance.

Such great teamwork. Very rare. Wow
Btw that North Carolina finish with full health.

How do we end the cancerous sit-in-smoke meta?

My idea is to just remove the invisibility and make smoke just reduce accuracy by like 10-15% if youre inside it.Or make it reduce detection range if youre not firing, but not by much (like 30% tops) It would still be usefull, but not as broken as it is right now

>>172435982

Remove the ability to fire AA guns while in smoke. Allow planes to spot ships in smoke.
Then buff CVs to be playable for average person. Done.

How are credits calculated in this game? is damage worth more than spotting or capping? what is the best way to turn on a profit when playing in tiers IX-X?

>>172435982
Remove DDs, RN CLs and Kutuzov.

>>172436258
You get credits for doing damage to ships, but the amount depends on how much % of their hp you do in damage. 1k to a dd is worth hell of alot more than 1k to a bb, as its should be. This applies to all classes but CVs, CVs get fuck all credits no matter what they do unless youre in a Saipan :/\)

>>172435982
Just torp the smoke )))

>>172436624
>Be Buyfast
>Have Hydro, smoke AND radar
>sit in smoke with hydro active and meme on some BaBBy with my broken as shit IFHE
>see torps pop up
>dodge them easily since my accleration is also broken af
>turn on radar and literally holocaust the poor fuck that launched the torps

Yeah, fun

>>172432885
What pray tell is it good for on DDs then? Getting a little closer to other DDs? Getting a little closer to torpedo stuff?

I don't see any significant use for it if it can't conceal you while firing.

How's adrenaline rush with secondary? Is it worth to use them both?

>>172435982
Sitting in a smoke screen makes you take double the damage if you get hit. Can spotted by aircraft, regardless of smoke.
Make hydro-acoustic search work at better ranges if the enemy is running their engines so they are more inclined to sit in the same spot in the smoke.

>>172437314
Why dont you have AR on everything?

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Latest update for Smug Moetel flag as of 0.6.3, triangles are rectangles edition.

Includes CBT, Fishy, +5% MC, and "I followed the clues" flags.

https://my.mixtape.moe/acjbrh.zip

>>172437362
Why would smoke increase damage taken? That's idiotic.

>>172436879
Just charge the smoke. Belfast has no torpedoes, so as long as you catch him out in the open, none of his teammates are anywhere near in range, you can close the gap without him leaving, and you can survive the inevitable 20k+ hp loss it's like a free kill. Perfectly balanced.

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>>172437415
Thank you based smug.

>>172437557
>so as long as you catch him out in the open, none of his teammates are anywhere near in range, you can close the gap without him leaving, and you can survive the inevitable 20k+ hp loss it's like a free kill

>killing someone only requires him to be retarded, his team to be retarded/dead, and you having a fuckload of hp you can throw at him

Sounds balans, for a premium)))))

>>172437712
thats some small smug

>>172437712
CUTE! smug

>>172437712
TINY!
Like Mosh' balls!

>>172437712
This should be the official :smughotel: in the discord

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L O L
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>>172437424
Why would a smoke screen entirely bar seeing a ship from a few kilometers away or only be limited to certain ships? That's idiotic.

It's called game balance. It takes precedent over realism when it comes to arcade games.

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>>172438480
>Why does a SMOKE SCREEN obscure my vision, thats idiotic!
>But smoke causing double damage is fine
>Is of balance)))))

ITT:baBBies trying to nerf smoke next

>>172439316
Battleships need to have a 5km radius of immunity. Any shell, torpedo or planes that enters that zone will disappear and any ship that enters it will explode with kill credited to the battleship. Except another battleship, of course.

This slight buff will allow battleship players to advance further and will help them to cap the areas.

>>172439316
Just give them a premium BB with smokescreen.

>>172438895
I'm not arguing with some weeb that cannot form their own argument and just memes.

>>172439316
Give any ship the ability to smoke screen, even for a short time.
In reality, all that was done for it was throwing some oil into the smoke stack to produce the smoke.
Let destroyers keep their prolonged screens, give everyone else a puff or two so they can break contact once in the game. I see it more as a problem with cruisers more than battleships. At least battleships have the armor and HP to survive long enough to run.

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Which will be the best non-premium pasta?

With XP and Vista no longer being supported soon, will we get actual night battles?

>>172440895
Budyonny

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>>172437415
Thank you!

>>172439606
The worst part is that you honestly think you have a good idea.

Game balancing shouldnt be done so overtly and so illogically. Smoke obscuring vision doesnt fly in the face of logic near as much as your inelegant and brutish solution.

Never fucking touch a video game

Clearly, what needs to happen is to implement repair facilities where your ships take a certain amount of time and resources to repair, depending on the class and specific ship. Battleships will be locked out of battle for upwards of 2 hours. Destroyers will only be locked out as little as 10 minutes. You can pay doubloons to make your ship repair instantly. WG can introduce certain missions that allow you to earn tokens for instant repair. Battleships also take more credits to repair, as opposed to an equivalently-tiered destroyer or other smaller craft.

That will surely limit the BB population.

:^))))))

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Mark my words, the Italian BB peculiarity will be smokescreens.

>>172442574
disgustingly thick boat

>>172442574
A baBBy with smoke just doesnt sound that useful. It's probably going to be short like Brits and will require coming to a halt well before you can pop it. And then youre in this very small space that people will just lob torps into and have a very good chance of hitting you.

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>>172442312
That actually sounds not bad at all for some reason.

I like it even

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>mmh, this name seems familiar, maybe he's a top player
>look it up

Holy shit, how can you have so many battles played and still be so fucking garbage at the game?
Really takes an effort.

>>172442728
It will be Perth's smoke, likely with a bigger radius. So you get a mobile smokescreen that allows the BB to go broadside in plain sight.

>>172441610
Smoke screens are not cloaks like they are in the game. You need to have something to dissuade people sitting in them.
They were used to retreat and put a visual barrier between yourself and an enemy, not to sit in and fire out of. That is unrealistic.
As is taking more damage while sitting inside but if it helps with the problem or any ships (battleships included) remaining invisible and racking up damage then it's a possible fix.

Don't do a half-assed approach like War Thunder and claim realism only when it suits you. Game mechanics should be balanced in an arcade game and as of right now smoke is not balanced. The only counter is torpedoes, or a radar consumable only a few ships have.

>>172443040
And get torped too? Great.

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>When you try to fight the communism and they just detonate your through the bow

fun

engaged

strategic

In general there is an issue with smokescreens. Mainly retards that pop them en mass and then turn the game into a 'nobody can see shit so they all lob torps from both sides'.
DDs who don't understand you still need to spot targets for yourself and your allies when you lay smoke. Pop it and make a field, run out of it for a second to spot enemies, then retreat back into the smoke if needed.
Just dumping it and blocking everyone's view helps no one. It just makes me hate DDs and know I cannot rely on them for jackshit.

>>172443175
It's already very easy to evade torp walls as a BB sitting on a smokescreen. A BB moving, even if at 1/4, would easily evade any torps.

What if they made smoke work kind of like Armored Warfare's arty?

You're invisible until you fire from the same area too many times, at which point your model is temporarily visible but you aren't actually spotted. People can shoot back at you but won't have the lock on accuracy bonus. Continued firing from the same spot after this causes you to get full spotted, though maybe for a shorter time.

You could balance the number of shots needed to get spotted. A DD might be able to fire 30 rounds from the same area before having their model be visible but a battleship may be visible after a single salvo.

Of course this would still be a DD nerf in the end and they'd need some sort of buff to compensate.

>>172443154
>Game mechanics should be balanced in an arcade game and as of right now smoke is not balanced.
Great but that doesn't mean you just throw stupid shit like taking double damage in smoke at the game in the name of """""""""""""balance""""""""""""

I just cant' believe how fucking retarded that idea is and that you think it's OK. It's fucking asinine.

>>172443678
Are we playing the same game, anon? No BB, running broadside to the enemy team at 1/4th speed, is going to just dodge torps "with ease" short of being in a good position to begin with, which can hardly be called dodging torps as in this case it involves almost no input from the player to begin with. That would involve the torps just flat out missing and not crossing the BB's path at the right time in the right place at all.

>>172443756
What's wrong with it? It's call risk and reward/
Your reward is you're not spotted and are shooting at an enemy, your risk is that if you get hit you pay for it.
Not that hard to comprehend. Don't want to get hit then don't be predictable or just sit in the same spot spamming shots.

No smoke nerfs until they unfuck DDs after this concealment nerf.

>>172444315
>drop smokescreen
>sit just outside and directly behind smokescreen
>still perfectly invisible 4/5ths of the time without taking the damage penalty
Maybe it'll get people to play carriers though.

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>>172443325

>>172444496
Smoke effects everyone, not just DDs.

All you need to do is make aircraft able to spot through smoke or extend the range hydroacoustic works on ships (Not torpedoes)

Right now you can just hide a BB in smoke and fire a broadside without getting spotted. That's retarded.
The recent season of ranked also shows this problem with British CAs.

>>172444315
We've already been over this.

>>172445087
Thats why you shoot shells and torps into smoke.

>>172445087
About half a year ago the devs said they planned on making battleships completely unconcealed by smoke. No word on it since, but it'd be a good change. Smoke might work on everyone, but that doesn't mean it should be nerfed for everyone. Most ships that have it are also reliant on it for survival. Aircraft are already a massive headache for DDs that can only be escaped in many cases by smoking up. CVs really do not need that buff. And hydro doesn't need to effectively replace radar.

>>172445636
>CV just manual drop into smoke
It's not that safe.

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Duck players on suicide watch.

>>172446013
I'm about to just deal with the 16s flight time on 15km range and play like a Cleveland with smoke since that's apparently what WG wants me to do. IJN CL line is finally here!

>>172446013
Duck is stupid!

>>172445795
Would be nice if I could help the team and blind drop into smoke. Unfortunately I play American carriers so I had to decide between taking fighters or torpedo planes.

>>172446013
Duck is cute.

lol 56% NA server WR on Khab in the last two weeks

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>>172446564
You take that back!

>>172446895
Duck is trash. TRASH!

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>Be in div
>Hit enter + tab
>Type message to divmates
>Hit enter
>Text shows up white in chatlog
>All chat selected

>>172446878
Got to go higher.

>>172445636
I agree that BBs shouldn't be able to use smoke but only if they fire. Smoke is a good escape for BBs to get out of incoming fire and some much needed relief.

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>>172446013
prepare the anus once the patch hits

>>172447040
>something that there was LITERALLY no reason to change

>>172445087
>Planes to see through smoke
>>172447362
>Firing from smoke reveals the BB inside.

So, what you're saying is... they should copy Steel Ocean?

>>172448071
Nobody would notice if they borrow something from dead game.

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>Ship is useless now
>WG is going to sell it
What a joke.

>>172450592
>useless
It'd still be overpowered at tier 6. Though the punchline of all this is that they didn't consider removing stealthfire a nerf and yet here they are selling an unsellable ship because of it.

Is Luger a cuck?

>>172451481
Yes.

So with the removal of stealthfiring.

How to spec the japanese DD's?

>>172452142
>playing IJN DDs

>>172452142
??? you're still going to have to dogfight against other DDs and firing from smokescreens is still allowed, no matter what this shit thread says

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HON HON HON

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https://my.mixtape.moe/bjtojh.webm

>>172455809
its pretty good

>>172450592
why is it useless? was stealth firing really the only thing it had going for it?

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So fuckin easy here.

She's a fine high classed elephant. lady

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>>172455809
>Not giving the Professor WGs Logo
>Not giving the Professor Luger-chan face

Still pretty damn good, friendo

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>>172455809

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>>172437415
Based

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Where the fuck is my N3 reeeee

>>172458546
>that forward superstructure facing backward

>>172459076
your not very smart huh

>>172458546
>all that bote aft of turret X

what on earth were they thinking

>>172459184
>what on earth were they thinking
engines and boilers don't explode so bad

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Pour out one for the fallen jew.

;__;7

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>>172459184
You still need all the engine rooms, fuel storage, crew quarters, and other facilities.
But afterall, that is still just a photofshopped Nelson class.

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>>172459389
F ironchest

>>172425550
I asked him to post his work on Google Sheets for that very reason, but he didn't do it.

>>172429886
>>172429929
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_licence

>>172438463
https://youtu.be/4LZo9ugJTWQ

>>172453398
>Dog-fight
>AFT
BFT would be better for that.

>>172428971
Jesus the wargaming devs are fucking morons

>99% of Saipan's are rocking air superiority, so it's 4 plane squadrons rather than 3 for them
>Saipan has vastly faster fighters
>It's captain's incompetence if they get dragged into a dogfight they can't win vs a regular tier 7 cv

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No sleeping, /wowsg/

>>172463612

Limited planes (((((

Duckies are cute

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Anyone know what this might actually be?

>>172466703
it was a light that was lit to remind pilots who landed after jewish pilots that the holocaust was real and happened

>>172466703
Looks like vents

>>172466703
Probably warning lights for night landings.

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>Fast enough to chase down other destroyers
>Radar
>Amazing AA
>Better torps than Fletcher
>Rapid fire
What was WG thinking?

>>172469065
>Let's pre-emptively fuck any chance at a tier 9 competitive mode
Something like that I'm guessing. Fletcher's already stronger than most tier 10 DDs and the radar makes it uncontestable. It's really shortsighted the way this and Flint are just faceroll versions of regular ships given out to players who already have tons of experience.

>>172469557
I ran into a Flint the other day. Fuck that thing.

>there's a hotfix coming tomorrow
I assume this is for Alabama? Because if something is screwy from the get-go, gg WG.

>>172469962
it's to give everyone the free sub

>>172463612
>>99% of Saipan's are rocking air superiority,
but thats wrong. Why are you calling the devs retards when youre retarded?

>>172470975
Meant the air supremacy commander skill obviously. eg 4 planes per squadron, like he said.

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>>172467104
>Posted from my Bismarck

>>172471521
panzervore why won't you play this game anymore?

>>172469863
>Flint
Not nearly as bad as Black.

>>172471790
>Run into 3 man Black div
>They somehow get blown the fuck despite all being well known unique cums

better than expected. but fuck them and that thing anyways

Is it me or does the Iowa citadel look the same?

>>172472021
Things that never happened.

>>172472079
It's because it is the same.

>>172472243
I thought they were lowering it this patch.

ウミドオリ
ミ
ド
オ
リ

>>172472354
>WG hasn't confirmed anything about it for sure
>wasn't in the patch notes
Why did you think it was in this patch?

>>172472354
They said it will happen in patch 0.6.4

>>172472527
But won't actually happen because WG internal tests showed a balance issue; the ship was fun to play and could actually do something other than bow on reversing.

Capt skill for ))) cruisers till t9?

>>172473765
Depends on the cruiser.

Hitler was a blueshitter who lost to a bunch of greenshitters and got butthurt forever.

>>172395065
>kaga can delete anything in 1 strike even with AS loadout to tie up an enemy AS CV build

>>172473765
Looking to grind to either to T( with Donkey or T8 with Chappy

>>172474562
>>172474242
This was meant for ^

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Is secondaries Nagato still good?

>>172474835
It can be fun but if you just want to meme with secondaries go play Bisko instead

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>>172473765
Priority target, Adrenaline rush or EM, Superintendent, demo ex, stealth, IFHE

>>172474835
NAGATO IS SO COOL IN A SUIT!

>>172474983
Thanks anon!

>>172472365
>ドオリ
That's not how things work you weeb, you're supposed to use the long vowel bar

>>172474835
It'S still OK, but for secondary memery the Gneisenau is just better.

>>172475395
Scharnhorst>Gneisenau>Nagato>Colorado as far as secondaries are concerned.

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>>172475368
You're welcome, friend.

Don't forget to play this while you burn the world down - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B1M3IPVcXs

>>172475395
>Gneisenau is just better.
ha, those 14cm guns meme up DDs better than Gneis the 5" guns light fires WAY better than Gneis.

Gneis secondary memes are literally a meme. Like a meta meme.

IFHE on IJN Cruisers?

>>172477024
no, 20.3cm guns don't get any real use out of it

>>172477024
As a rule of thumb, IFHE is only useful on CLs, and fucking never on CAs.

>>172476630
it is clear you are retarded, so I will try to make it easy to understand
Nagato's fire chance is non-existent.

Nagato 48 HE shots per minute, 8% fire chance, that's 3.8 FPM if none of them miss, hit a burning area or low down the side of the ship.

Scharn gets 8 barrels of 9% 3.4s reload, that's 12.7 FPM.
Then it gets 6 barrels of 8% 7.5s reload, that's 3.84 FPM more.
Scharn total 16.54 FPM, 435% the rate of the Nagato. Nagato will be lucky to see an enemy with even 1 single fire on them, where germans will see them engulfed in a constant 2-4 fires at all times the repair party is gone.

The terrible chance on the nagato means it has zero chance of punishing someone with a 3-4 fire battleship kill as soon as their repair party is unavailable. There are very long dry-spells for nagato where it is doing 0 DPS total with fires in which the enemy battleship refreshes his cooldown.

And battleship AP secondary are a joke. HE already devastates Destroyers and gneis/scharn have amazing rudder shifting, only bad destroyers will tangle with a secondary spec German at all.

140mm AP is absolutely worthless against battleships, the AI shoots them all into the armor belt up close with no DPS, and at long range the AI misses / doesn't fire and 140mm AP can't penetrate effectively at range anyway.
Nagato is already inferior against destroyers, so that leaves random cruisers who are right next to your very slow nagato... a situation that happens 0% of the time if they aren't going for a 8-12 torpedo run that would obliterate the nagato with no help from the secondary because they don't have even a fraction of the alpha needed to stop a cruiser torp attack.

Nagato's one and only high point is long range, open water sniping. Building secondaries on it requires an absolute fucking potato retard.

>all those good times you had with Nagato when she was queen of mid-tier secondaries brawling
;_;

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>tfw no qt hotel gf

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>>172478518
You know for all this theory crafting and straight up turbo fucking autism you somehow missed out on the fact that 14cm AP shreds DDs and does decent damage to battleship superstructures at range, while doing the same damage as HE at close range because hurr gotta shoot waterline.

Have you actually even bothered trying all these ships in the wild?

Also no one said anything about Scharn you retard, only Gneis with its shitty 12.8cm suite.

>>172479058
I don't want to feel these feels
;_;

tbqh, there's no reason to spec for secondaries on either Gneisenau, Scharnhorst or Nagato. Concealment is more useful most of the time just because it lets you disengage earlier, not to mention those ebin times where you surprise an unfortunate cruiser.

The only ship worth speccing for secondaries is Bismarck.

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>>172479502
>Not having a dank 19pt captain and speccing for both

>>172479502
Concealment and secondaries aren't mutually exclusive
the trade-off (unless you only have a lowish point captain) is for main guns/survivabiltiy

>>172456483
>Never sell it because it was overpowered
>Remove key feature from DDs
>Now you can sell it

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>T10
>See a BB launch his plane
>A spotter plane flies up
>Few seconds later another spotter flies up

>>172472365
Quit speaking Nintendo you weeb.

>>172474835
Very.

>>172480312
Is there any time you'd want that over priority target or preventative maintenance?

>>172479502
>secondary build can't use concealment guys I'm retarded
10 = concealment
14 = concealment with secondary range + antiair range that's desperately needed or else you're a free kill for torpedo planes
18 = concealment with secondary+antiair range and secondaries that actually hit things.

There's no alternative build which comes close for bismarck, scharn or gneisenau.

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Should they reverse the no manual drops on low tier CVs? Asking CV players, Anumati

>>172480982
planes only see torpedos and destroyers near them, rather than near your ship.

Each airplane flies in a different direction, 2 airplanes = twice as much coverage of possible destroyers and torpedo waves.

If you wait long enough, your single spotter or single fighter might circle back around to the direction you want to push / are afraid of torp attack from, but having a 2nd fighter can give you an airplane in the correct direction twice as quickly.

The second spotter plane lacks any direct combat benefit, unlike 2x Catapult Fighters for shooting down planes, so it's quite rare.

Priority target and preventative maintenance are both quite strong. Those 2 and dual catapults are the only 3 tier 1 skills BBs choose from really.

>>172481261
>asking carrier players
carrier players love being absolutely overpowered.
There's absolutely nothing at all a tier 4-5 battleship can do to fight against a tier 4-6 carrier in any way.

No terrain on the entire map can stop torpedo planes and they have infinite fuel and are faster than ships.

If the BB can't ever escape, at least it can put up a fight? No, it's mathematically impossible. The anti-air at tier 4 is a joke, the BB gets a few small dps before the two squadrons are in range and release their torpedo. If they use the standard cross pattern, it's mathematically impossible thanks to the rudder shift mechanic for a tier 4 battleship to not eat several of the torpedos every correct crossdrop.

There's no other mechanic in the entire game where the game is 100% in the hands of the enemy and 0% in your own hands. You cannot turn the ship in a way that it is not possible to cross-drop you, battleships cannot physically turn fast enough to do this. You also don't aim any of your anti-air guns, so you can't suddenly shoot 12 airplanes down in a tier 4 battleship, as your DPS is not high enough to ever do this before they arrive in drop range.

In other shooters, even someone with a bad pistol can win a duel against someone with a machine gun by aiming and landing a headshot.
World of warships has that against enemy ships occasionally, but there's no headshot equivalent for anti-air at all. An air squadron can't suffer any critical strikes of any sort.

They need to give warships some alt-fire mode, pre-aiming the anti-air and giving a way to instantly obliterate an air squadron if it comes in from exactly the direction that you set up 5-10 seconds ahead of time.

Without actual counterplay in the game, manual drop has no place in the game.

>>172482569
It's not that hard to turn into incoming planes, at most you will eat two to three torpedoes even when cross-dropped.

>But I want to be able to prevent all the damage.

Gee I wonder if you can prevent all incoming artillery damage?
You know why manual drops upset you? Because you sit in the back sniping and expect no enemy ship to be able to engage you, but that makes you prime carrier target.

I'M ABOUT TO RESEARCH AND BUY NAGATO. SOMEBODY STOP ME.