/twg/ - Total War General

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Ahhh~

4 DAYS!

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Where did it all go wrong?

>>172239684
Ikr i wish all of them cost money

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stop playing fantasy

Was Sigmar a primarch?

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>>172239440
>playing coop with my m8
>he has a terrible toaster
>loads in and out of battles faster than me
>I have to go for a ciggy while he waits an extra minute for me to load

Are there any settings I can turn down to help loading times or something? He keeps telling me that I just need to turn graphics settings down. I know that he doesn't have an SSD so I don;t get why my times are so shit

Is my hard drive just dying?

>>172239579
Why gobbo advisor isn't a thing?

>>172239842
No, he was a faggot

>>172239842
yes

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So, apparently CA did a thing at an AMD event talking about optimizing their engine

>>172240029
There was one, but Grimgor killed him in the trailer.

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>KILL DA STUNTIEZ

>>172240120
>>172240007
Quoted wrong guy

>>172239842
no

>>172239631

Yall gettin pretty jazzed for just an announcement for something we wont see for months

Why am I so bad at battles?
Since I went from normal to hard I can't win a single custom battle anymore. Not a single fucking one

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>>172240112
For comparison, the first image is the old pipeline with 25,000 instances in 13.5ms, and this one is with the new pipeline with 125,000 instances in 9.5ms
So, maybe they are actually making big steps in improving warscape, although it wasn't said whether these changes are already implemented into the game or not

>generous gift is 9,1k
>moderate gift is 2,3k

??

>>172239862
If he has a 7200rpm disk and you have a 5600 he's gonna load faster, the same applies if you have potato memory and he doesn't. Otherwise he might have a point with low res textures taking less time to load.

>>172240285

Hard doesnt even change that much senpai

>>172240112
Thinking of getting a new cpu just for this.

Let's see if amd can get better results

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>>172239440
MEDIEVAL KINGDOMS 1212 WHEN?
ANCIENT EMPIRES WHEN?

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KHAZUK AN!
KHAZUK IT!
HA!

>>172240328
Diminishing returns.

>>172240469
Never ever.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH MACRAGGE THE ETERNAL CITY

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HYWboy back.

Last time King Cuck was besieging Saintes in Gascony. This turn, we fought that battle, almost got fucking crushed, but saved it at the last second (even if our Cucklord died in the process).

>>172240440
Mybe it's because I play at normal speed instead of abusing the ralleny, my management skills are dogshit.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
LUSTRIA

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>>172240743
Next turn, we're gonna be moving against the last Aragonese King and the last Aragonese city. This might be a toughie but at least the numbers are even.

I also get to try out these ballisteros, who apparently are shocktroops posing as simple crossbowmen.

Are they gonna AAAAAH the next announcement trailer coming this Friday?

>>172240507
DAWI

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G O B L I N S

>>172239579
I'd unironically pay extra for an orc advisor

So High Elves are versatile while being better at infantry, cavalry, archers and monsters than the Empire, right? Why is the Empire so shit?

>>172240507
What does that mean anyway?

>>172241476
Elves don't have gunpowder

>>172240961
>Cuck beats the Black
KEKED

>>172241607
They have magic and dragons instead.

>>172241476
Elves have one good artillery. The Empire has one great artillery and like three pretty good ones. Also strength of numbers.

>>172241607
who the fuck need gunpowder when you have fire breathing dragon and subzero phoenix?

>>172241850
isn't that like dawi bolt thrower though? I was pretty disappointed with that tbqhf

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>Kilsev is one of the few maps with some huts on it which you can use to help defend against attacks
>get a heroic victory on it easy as shit
TWW really needs settlement defence maps so things stop being so snowbally

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>172241787
are you ready for AI army comp of dragon-riding prince + 19 star dragons?

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And people say the Chaos Campaign is hard and it takes too long to grow a good army...

Do you guys have more fun with Orion or Durthu?

I like Orion's look but I'm tempted to use Durthu's immunity to attrition and go north and wipe out the chaos tribes.

>>172241990
Both High and Dark elf bolt throwers are better than the dwarf one. Never trust the workmanship of someone who spends his days swinging at other people's kneecaps.

>>172242258
>he likes the look of faggot beastmen fuckboi instead of ancient & vengeful Elders of the Forest
wew

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>>172242342
This goes into the fucking book.

>>172242258
They keep resettling so it's a pain in the ass to wipe them out

Orion has cooler abilities and items

>>172241870
Don't let the flashy monsters distract you. The real strength of the HE army is superior magic (only lizardmen can do better, and they usually don't because you don't often get more than one slann in an army while the elves can just spam their mages) and not one, not two, but three units of elite infantry that work as shredders to everything in put front of them.

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TWW battles with cinematic cuts (close ups, angles etc.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZwRecr8L-g

Somting very comfy about it.

>>172242663
The White lions are one of those, what are the others?

>>172242216
Surprisingly there are quite a lot of shitters in /twg/, especially after the release of TWW. People don't bother learning game mechanics like they used to.

>>172240507
You inspired me to play a Legendary Belegar campaign, animu-poster.

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>when your ally stands and watches you how 2 ded armies rape you
>doesn't engage just waits

I have thought dwarfs are bros

Aslo question, what happens when I charge with my melee against another melee unit? Do charge effects applies for both? If yes is it technically better to charge than stand and await enemy infrantry charge?

>>172242663
sure, but in-game magic are quite neutered so they will just be like a better Empire

>>172242734
Swordmasters (I think) and Phoenix Guard
Phoenix Guard in particular are likely to be absolutely disgusting.

>>172242846
>he doesn't force his ally to attack the enemy before him

lmeo

>>172242663
which one of them can beat chosens in 1vs1? White lion?

What does /twg/ think of this?

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?725353-modification-ROME-2-NM-on-the-engine-Total-War-ATTILA

>>172242961
In game, or in lore? Because in the old game, that depended on a lot of things including dice rolls, and in lore it would have depended on who's writing the story.

>>172241605
Something along the lines of "The Dwarfs are going to war."

>>172242710
Wow this was very nice. Thanks man

>>172240112
>>172240307
these graphs mean nothing to my goblin-tier mind, explain in words that the common git can understand

>>172242961
The way Chosen are done in this game they're still likely to be top of the pack, but I imagine the Helf units will be almost as good whilst still having access to all the other things that warriors of chaos don't get, like good archers.

>>172243167
I think it's never going to be finished

>>172240791

I started watching Turin to improve my microskills.

So the AI gets minor buffs to melee stats and accuracy with hard.

So perhaps you are relying too much/long on your melee line to do the work.

See them only as a way to tie up enemy units while you shock troops/cav/missiles/monsters to roll up the flanks and hit them in the ass.

Honestly the only real change between normal and legendary is how much time you have before your line breaks.

>>172242794

>suprisingly

>>172242101
Worst meme in /twg/

>>172243876
Nah this one is
>>172239835

>>172243368
>Release 20 July 2017
I dunno at least this one has a release date

>>172243598
>implying my line breaks

*tips one trillion armor*

>>172240791
The biggest downside to toal war games is that you need to ignore the fun stuff if you want to do well. That means no watching your guys fight, no admiring your charges, no staying centered over key units. When I do battles I played zoomed out as far as I can and I just keep clicking orders over and over until the battle is done. I save replays so I can admire them later.

>>172243993
I wouldn't even consider what he's doing a meme, it's just belligerent autism

>>172243598
Thanks mate. Yeah watching some good player might help.

>>172244067
Ye and AE release date is september 2016

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About to start a new campaign, anyone have the roll picture?

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>Empire is HRE
>Bretonnia is Britain/France
>Kislev is Poland/Russia
>Estalia is Spain
>Tilea is Italy
>Araby is motherfucking Araby
>Tomb Kangs are Egypt
>Helves are Britain/Atlantis
>Delves are American/fucking leaves
>Welves are Celts/Gauls
>Chaos are Scandinavia
>Vampire Counts are Estern Europe
>Lizardmen are Aztec/Mayan/Incan
>Ogres are Mongols
>Chaos dwarfs are Assyrian
>Greenskins and Beastmen are general nonddescript barbarians

All this said, what the fuck are the vanilla dwarfs and skaven supposed to be? I can't really see a parallel with other civilizations geographically or culturally. It's just plain frustrating.

Dwarfs live in mountain ranges hoarding gold and trying to get back to people who wronged them generations ago, having strictly regulated and enforced codes that they follow to the letter.

Skaven, outside of their HQ inside another country, don't really have a proper nation, instead having their tendrils across the entire world that they plan to conquer, but at the same time hiding these intentions and their very existence, all the while being amoral backstabbers to everyone including each other.

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>mfw they announce Total War: New World on friday, to be released in December 2018

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>>172240961
I have made a tragic mistake in attacking over a river.

There are no fords from what I can see.

fuck

>>172242961
Nah only pheonix guard I'd say.

They're halberd elves with a 50/50 ward save against everything.

When it comes to White Lion's vs. Swordmasters I reckon CA needs to do more in TWW to differentiate them them on TT - maybe give Swordmasters magical attacks and give White Lions vanguard or something.

>>172241476
Empire has like the best artillerly, way more heroes and will be way better at holding the line due to cheaper more numerous infantry.

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>>172244364

>>172244435
Jews

It ain't that hard

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>>172244519

>mfw I just realised thats Todbringer on the ground

>>172244519
Why did Khazrak let Toddbringer live after taking his eye?

More importantly, how did he stop all the other beastmen from killing him? Can't see a Minotaur or a Gorebull listening to reason

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>>172244435
>dwarfs covet gold and hold generational grudges
>skaven scheme and feign weakness
>they fight with orcs over a region roughly analogous to the Levant
I think you already know the answer.

>>172244730
>5 undead heroes
>3 are von carstein, 2 are literal who's
>no Zachariahs
>no neferata
>no aborash
>no ushoran
Von carsteins are shit! SHIT!

>>172244435
>Skaven, outside of their HQ inside another country, don't really have a proper nation, instead having their tendrils across the entire world that they plan to conquer, but at the same time hiding these intentions and their very existence, all the while being amoral backstabbers to everyone including each other.
Jews?

>>172244519
That art doesn't make sense.

Beastmen would rip his spines off and carve out that eye.

>>172244435
None of what you said even works in the first place though.

How the fuck are high elves british?

>>172244869
Because that's how you create epic rivalries. If he killed toddbringer there would be story

>>172244869
>>172244961

>Khazrak allowed his foe to live, and some believe that he actually enjoys matching his wits against Todbringer, seeing it as a challenge to his skills

Khazrak has the "Likes Todbringer" trait

>>172244730
ROLL

>>172244969

>Island nation
>GW's love childs, with the greatest everything
>Naval empire with outposts in small islands all around the world
>Rebel faction lives in not-North America

>>172244915
Sounds like you have a grudge to me.

AS I HOLD GHAL MARAZ

>>172244869
Because the story demanded it.

>>172244961
You do realize that's Toddbringer and Khazrak right you dumb stupid fuck, and that is a thing that actually happened and you can actually play as, right?

You're just being a jackass for kicks, not as much of a dumb stupid retard as you're showing?

>>172244915
Kemmler is pretty well known lore character.

how will you deal with tyrion + 19 star dragons lads?

>>172245127
I just wish they'd add Zachariahs more than anything. They put two shit necromancers in and left best vampire out

>>172244915
>Kemmler
>Literal who

You stupid pathetic piece of human garbage

The FIRST special character in all Warhammer is a literal who now?

Can you please stop being this much of a retarded little prick?

>>172244730
lets roll mothafuckas

>>172245331
I was just making a joke about your roll but yeah, more, different undead would be nice.

Then again if the KANGZ get their way like they're all riled up about recently there might soon be a severe overrepresentation of undead.

>>172245065
>>172245101

I was leaning more on "how" here guys
Khazrak doesn't just need to spare the Todmeister, he also needed to stop everyone else in his force, especially the big fucks like Minos and Gorebulls, to eat him for sport

>>172244869
How did Khazrak take his eye anyway?

>>172245814
With his horn

And surgical precision which'd make Ben Carson proud

>>172244435
>Empire is HRE
Yes.
>Bretonnia is Britain/France
Yes.
>Kislev is Poland/Russia
Kislev is mostly Russia with lots of Slavic mythology, Ostermark is mostly Poland
>Estalia is Spain
>Tilea is Italy
Yes. Specifically, Renaissance Italy. Esatllia is a lot less flesehd out
>Araby is motherfucking Araby
They actually have tons of wiazrd shit going on, and had teh Skaven manipulating them to fight wars against Estallia.
>Tomb Kangs are Egypt
Yes.
>Helves are Britain/Atlantis
More Atlantis than Britain, apart from teh naval empire thing.
>Delves are American/fucking leaves
Yes.
>Welves are Celts/Gauls
Mostly yes.
>Chaos are Scandinavia
No, unless you mean the tribers north of not-norway.
The tribes we get to see in TWW are mostly normal humans that trade with the empire and kislev.
>Vampire Counts are Estern Europe
They'Re all kinds of Dracula and Transylvania memes rolled into one meme faction.
>Lizardmen are Aztec/Mayan/Incan
Duh.
>Ogres are Mongols
No, teh actual mongols are gobbo tribes and chaos barbarian tribes furtehr north. Ogres are closer to some sort of Afghanistan.
>Chaos dwarfs are Assyrian
In looks, yes.
>Greenskins and Beastmen are general nonddescript barbarians
Mostly, yes.

Dwarfs are mostly included as direct copies of Tolkien dwarves, and they sort of work as a Swiss Confederation.

Skaven are literally the Jews.

>>172245131

I AM READY. BRING ME TO MY MEN.

What should my empire frontline be like, lads

just fucking swordsman or throw some halberdiers around?

>>172244435
>>172246075
Estalia is a mix of Portugal during its Golden Age of Discovery and Spain during the time of the Conquistadores

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>>172244435

>Chaos are Scandinavia

This is correct, though I'm fairly sure that Nordland is Sweden. It's people are apparently viewed as half-Norscans by the rest of the Empire, their uniforms are blue and yellow and there's a town there that's literally named "Ockholm".

>>172246075
>teh
we get it dude, you go on reddit.

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im going to need the "Must be this tall to ride" Chaos Dwarf image, stat

>>172246430

Halberdiers were breddy gud in experience, so get some of those. Handgunners were useful in my campaign, maybe get a few of those to fire and withdraw as the enemy closes.

>>172244519
You also have to remember that Toddbringer stole Khazrak's eye so it would be poetic that he did so the same to him.
Beastmen are surprisingly incredibly intelligent under all that bestial rage and chaos corruption with the exception of Centaurs who are literally drunken rednecks with possible heritage to one single drunken degenerate.

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>>172244435
>no Greek faction

>>172246572
even split between handgunners and crossbowmen or just handgunners?

>start a legendary Belegar campaign
>things go well, unite my starting province, confederate guys fighting against Skarsnik
>just as I defeat Skarsnik's army I see 3 Crooked Moon mutinous stacks pull up to my clay
FUCKING URKI

>>172246735

Helves have a sorta greek aesthetic, and Tilea has the city state system with hoplite helmets.

>>172244435
The closest thing I can match dwarves with is Eastern Roman Empire. Desperately holding onto a region that looks suspiciously like Anatolia, trying to hold back an endless tide of filthy godless barbarians.

>>172244435

Dwarfs are basically the Roman Empire.

Not because of culture or memes - but as the former dominant Empire with high tech that is irreversibly declining, it's ruins everywherr, lots of the culture/tech/ language of younger races have dwarf roots

>>172246903

They can also work as the Western Roman Empire sort of, since they ruled the Old World before the humans and the human language is the Romance tongue to the Khazalid's latin.

>>172246761

Well, the crossbowmen have the ability to fire over your other units, but in my experience they werent as killy as handgunners. But the handgunners have to have a clear line of sight to be useful and not kill your own men. Your call.

1-5 dawi
6-0 empire

>>172246452
I think it would be more accurate to say Norsca is viking age scandinavia and Nordland post-viking age scandi

>>172246778
>defeating Snarsnik instead of racing him to 8 peak
you get what you deserve

>>172243218
Dwarfs are going to war would be "Khazadim khazakit ha!"
I have no fucking idea what Khazukan means.

>>172246778

>urki
>not grobi

One
Fucking
Job you beard-nigger

>>172247172
1-5 grombrindal
6-0 ungrim

>>172246879
That's only because medieval Italy had a city state system with hoplite helmets.

http://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/bigben-interactive--partnership-with-games-workshop-for-warhammer-fantasy-battles-20170323-00884#/ixzz4cT1xPM6T
It seems that there will be hack n slash set in Warhammer Fantasy world. Nice, Total War make me really like that setting.

Anyone played Ogres in that mod to Medieval 2? Any tips?

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>>172244435

Arent Dwarfs Vikings in a way? They carry their leaders on shields, have berserkers in the form of slayers, generic horned helmet, longbeards etc

Well more like underground Vikings

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>>172244520
Yea, so, we couldn't force the river at the end of the day. The enemy outnumbered my missile troops by quite a bit, and they refused to be baited back across the river, and they tore up my ballisteros in a duel.

Fuck, try again in a few turns. They can't replenish so it should be ok.

This does lead me in a predicament, as I had a very small force besieging Peripginan as to keep the reinforcements from the city out of the battle, and now he has no movement points.

>>172247312
Crooked moon mitionous gits armies are mostly orcs, since they don't get the Skarsnik's restriction. If they consisted of grobi I'd take them on with no issues.

>>172244730
rollan'

>>172247453
The northern dwarves are supposed to be more viking like. I don't remember where I read it, but their Slayers are considered the most insane out there - not only do they shave their heads, but also their beards before going on their death quest.

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>>172247473
In other parts of the realm, the Bretons again look to take Cherbourg. This time, they're bringing some pretty advanced troops to the fray. These guys look pretty dang scary compared to the dinky swordsmen I have.

>>172247453
Shieldbearers mount for Dwarfen lords when?

is stainless steel better than regular m2

>>172244730
roll

Hows the beastmen campaign?

Is it worth £14?

>>172247872
Everything is better than vanilla m2

>dwarves fight in tunnels
>tunnels are cramped as fuck with no room to swing in
>dwarves always pictured as using axes and hammers instead of spears and stabbing swords

really makes one think

>>172241993
>animated portraits with textures set to low

fucking tard

>>172248308
>TWW
Doesnt look like its the only thing set to low

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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING I can't wait to hear the Lizardmen post battle victory chant

>>172247270
Khazukan- Dwarfs (literally "Hall-dwellers")

From the wiki

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>>172244171
Yeah to maximize enjoyment in TW:W I go
> roleplay armies and avoid "gaming the system in any way"
> Play battle all the way zoomed out
> Save replay, after battle instantly leave to main menu and watch replay with UI hidden, grabbing sick screenshots
> repeat

Comfy as fuck with this game

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>Recruiting Warrior-priests in Middenheim whilst Volkmar is in the area

>>172248606

>When he has the jade griffin mount

Hello level 25 warrior priests. They actually will have all their chants as well as being an alright offensive agent.

>>172248292
I've made this point before but for some reason it triggers people here. Logically speaking, dwarfs using spears and shields makes more sense for a race that developed it's fighting in cramped mountain passages.

That's exactly how and why the Greeks came up with shield walls.

Especially considering they have weapons like crossbows, flamethrowers, and bombers. Shield wall pins the enemy in place and the artillery fucks up everything on the other side.

>>172243993

No the best elf one is by far the worst

It doesn't convey anything and is not relatable

>>172248606
You'd think the Middenheimers wouldn't be too fond of Volky. It's like the Pope going to Mecca.

>>172244435
>Kislev is Poland/Russia
>Vampire Counts are Estern Europe

I'm an ignorant burger but uwot?

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>>172247847
in other news I have mismanaged my northern territories away.

They now have Cherbourg and are going to move in on Alencon with what looks like almost 2 full, experienced stacks.

Gonna try to sell it for peace and maybe get cherbourg back.

Are slayers really only good for fucking up monsters?

Tried using them against a regular unit of orc boys

wasn't pretty, but the charge was pretty neat

>>172248360
Well, I might be misremembering then. Although, I think the khazadim version was in some book. Might've been made up by the author or something.

>>172248798
t. Varg poster

>>172248820
Kislev is Poland/Ukraine/Russia
Vampire Cunts are Romania

>>172248870
>tfw a slayer just dives the fuck into the enemy formation and then dies because lul0armor

>>172249074
>>172248820
Sylvania is totally not Transylvania, other Vampire bloodlines are different.
Kislev is totally not Kiev with other eastern European stuff thrown in like Hussars or Cossacks.

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>>172243993
I actually like the Varg meme. Makes me smile a bit every time I see it.

The best elf one leaves me indifferent.

>>172248820
>Sylvania
>Translvania irl is known for myths about vampires

>>172248870
I don't have lots of dorf experience, but the best way for dealing woth monsters is to just let them charge some almost unbreakable, armored as fuck dorfs and then shoot it with rifles until it dies.

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>>172248556
>Have amazing battle against Mousillon as early game Bretonnia
>Every unit does exceptionally well
>Even the peasants pull of heroic feats with the help of a foot Lord
>Damsel gets tons of kills through magic
>Feel comfy afterwards, picture my men celebrating and praying afterwards
>Carry on campaign
>Watch replay
>It's corrupted
>The battle is a fucking shambles and nothing like it actually was

>>172245117
>Rebel faction lives in not-North America
ha

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>>172248834
Brittany has besieged Alencon without me being able to do jack shit about it, so I'm just going to destroy every building.

Down south, the King of Aragon is chasing away my smaller stack that I sent to besiege their capital. I'm gonna fight this one, just to see if there's a chance I can do serious damage.

In other news, I am now losing territory fucking everywhere

>>172249162
Isn't that exactly what their plan is though?

>>172249429

Chaos

>>172249678
If you can fuck up a giant I'd expect you to be able to handle a couple of orc boys you know what i'm saying

>>172248292
>>172248758
Their "tunnels" are the size of a low level skyscraper you dumb pieces of shit, and their small size guarantees they're able to swing axes and hammers safely, while their body might be muscled doesn't carry enough weight to properly hold a spear line.

>>172249820
I'm not necessarily only talking about warhams though lad

>>172249806
Against a giant, the plan fails. Against an ork, the plan succeeds, apparently.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH9m0wfZv0w


??????????

>>172244730
Roll

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What kind of fucking update is this?

>>172249939
This applies to almost every fantasy dwarf. Their bodies don't have enough weight for a spear to be effective yet are muscled enough for an axe or hammer swing to hurt, and their constructions are usually very very spacious.

This is the kind of question that makes sense if you think the least amount possible for it to come up in the first place and not a single second more

>>172250212

Old Friend

>>172250212
Does this need to be said every time?

The update is only 127 mb. However, for some god forsaken reason, whenever the game needs to update it preallocates space that is the size of the entire game.

>>172250149
My mums working at CA and they say new siage are coming in Warhammer 2

man who gives a fuck about shitty slugts and lizards

where are the HIGH ELVES

>>172244519

that's what you deserve for not confederating you sheep fucking Middenheim dog

>>172244869
Because Khazrak is not a complete dumb as fuck animal, he's actually rather intelligent for a Beastman. He became infamous in the Empire for using actual guerilla tactics. Him and Todbringer developed sort of a grudging respect towards each other. Khazrak didn't kill him because he actually enjoyed fighting against him and deemed him as a solid, worthy opponent.

>>172245673
There's no such thing as too many skeletons

>>172250456
I agree. Hype elves best elves. I hope they don't fuck up high magic though.

Does anyone have a link to a faction unlocker that just unlocks all the factions instead of replacing them? Is it possible?

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>>172250456
>Anyone caring about worst elves

>>172250546
Again, for the third fucking time, I mean HOW

How did Khazrak manage to contain the Beastmen amongst his ranks who actually are dumb as fuck animals like Gorebulls and Minotaurs from feasting on Todbringer like they presumably did with everyone else?

>>172250456
>Literally wanting the meme elves

>>172250910
He is the biggest and baddest, no one would deny him similar to grimgor.

>>172250910
Because hes the leader of the horde?

>>172250891
>>172250995
eldar are my favorite 40k faction so you can suck a fart out of my ass, high elves a best

SAY MY NAME

SAY MY NAME

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>>172249668
hnnnngnggg fuuuuckk

this campaign has ramped up in difficulty and i have ramped down in skill

>>172250910

because doesn't matter how big or strong the Beastman is, their're all scared shitless just when Khazrak looks at them.
All who weren't are dead by now

>>172251239

Thorgrimgor Ironfist

>>172251365
Ironfistbearer*

>>172248292
You can't hew rock & stone with a pointy spear or sword lad

>>172250910
Maybe because Khazrak is not only tenacious but a legitimate badass in his own right. His victories would probably instil loyalty in his followers, even the big mouthbreathing gorebulls would listen to his leadership because he's brought them victories and plays the long game. Say a gorebull wants to pound Todbringer into the dirt and is going crazy with bloodlust, Khazrak says "this is not allowed" and some other underlings would pry the gorebull away - maybe a group of bestigors or a bray shaman. Some of them might get smashed but the brayherd owe their loyalty to Khazrak, not the gorebull.

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>>172245331
>two shit necromancers

I can understand you insulting Ghorst, but don't you DARE insult Kemmler. He's the fucking Lichemaster, pretty much the most famous Necromancer in the setting that isn't also a vampire or a skeleton. He's one of the longest-going characters of the whole setting, with a lot of backstory and epic battles to him that wasnt' decided in a 'throw around ideas' fest only a few years ago.

>>172251576
WHERE IS KRELL

>>172251059
>>172251101
Leader of the horde or no, I'm not seeing how a battle fury, adrenaline pumping, blood smelling Minotaur would be deterred from wounded prey by Khazrak

Killed after, sure, I understand, but unless the Goatman can kill the mino in one blow...

>>172251576
That skirt looks really stiff and uncomfortable to move around in

>>172246992
I'd say the High Elves are closer to that, especially since their ruins are the foundations of most Tilean, Estalian, and Bretonnian cities.

>>172251357
>>172251504

A'ight, my autism has been sated

Thank you

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>>172239440
>New World Expansion Soon
>https://comingsoon.totalwar.com/

>>172251576
In-game you have to admit he's pretty shit


Even that mod that gave him a Mortis Engine as a mount didn't change how shit he is

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>>172251297
Saintes is being assaulted, so it's time for a hopefully ez defense.

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>tfw you feel like a gobbo

>>172251934
I really, really, like this picture

>>172251683
your argument that the beastmen are mindless animals that don't understand anything as nuanced as chain of command

but it undermines itself because if beastmen are too dumb to listen to khazrak then that means they're dumb enough to cave in to fear

no matter how dumb an animal is, if it can feel fear then it can be controlled because every animal has a preservation instinct one way or the other

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>>172251576

>>172251105

I literally suck cocks and I think Eldar are gay.

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>>172251660
EVEN KRELL WOULD BE IMPRESSED

>>172251726
Well, it's made of skin - could be a real supple leather if cared for right. But knowing him, it's probably not - part of his backstory is that he was wandering around the Grey Mountains for a few decades as a hobo with no memories. That's another cool thing about him - he's one of the few necromancers with a tie to Chaos, even indirectly.

>>172251952
He's not much better than a regular Necromancer lord, sure. But he's not the absolute worst, and if I really cared about stats I'd be using Mannfred.

>>172252072
>>172251824
The autism has ben sated anon

Your services are no longer needed. Go join the Magic Pain Glove if you may

beastmen are the ultimate cucks

only the alphas get to mate, only the alphas get to eat first

when your army is attacked by beastmen you're literally being attacked by a bunch of beta virgins with only 1% of that horde ever having gotten laid by a sexy doe or unwilling human female

>>172252494
Isn't that true of half the armies in Warhammer though? How many Empire and Bretonnian soldiers do you really think have gotten laid before they're conscripted? Orcs and Gobbos never have sex, Dark Elf women probably make sex a scary prospect, Skaven almost never get to breed unless they do something amazing enough to be allowed the privilege...

>>172252494

now ask yourself why they are so angry and try to rape/pillage and attack everything.

imagine a whole army of hairy/smelly/unwashed/manly Elliot Rodgers that want to kill something and/or fuck it.

That's a sight to see

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>>172252494
aren't cucks just the ones who enjoy being in such a neglected situation?

>>172251576
Kemmlers room looks comfy

>Khazukan Kazakit-ha - "Look out! The Dwarfs are on the warpath!"

9000 hours in google

>dat triumphant fanfare when you click on a Bret city
Glorious

>>172252773
doubtful that humans are least are as beta because if their physiology is comparable to ours then it would imply that about half of the human civilizations are populated females so it's pretty likely that a big chunk of men in any army have at least kissed a girl

>>172252052
go ahead, save it :D, its all yours friend

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>>172253078
>when you move a Bretonnian unit and they chant 'For Bretonnia! For the Lady!'

>>172252773
What about Ogres? How they do that?

>>172252897
if a lil ungor fuccboi had his doe's ass slapped by a gorebull he'd be more than happy to give her up since they want to live so it's technically cuckolding

>>172252494
>implying beastmen would ever rape humans
>implying filthy human dna is worthy of being mixed with master race beasts

Has anyone found a dwarf nerf mod? I wanna fight some orcs, but not as OP dwarves.

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>>172253401
willing out of alternatives does not mean happy

>>172253574
Tell that to Rapetaur, the LL i need in my life

>>172253386
Man, I don't even know if they have women. I don't really want to know.

>>172253574
>implying they wouldn't

where do you think some of them got their ten fingers and human torsos from? Fido?

poor little milk maid paid for their human bodies one knot at a time

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u srs

So do we have any idea of which sub-factions will be the main factions for TWWII

Like Reikland, Karaz-A-Karak or Dukedom of Couronne

>>172253754
Pretty sure they do breed in the old fashion way

Discussing the hypothetical sex lives of imaginary races in a wargame even by 4chan standards

>>172253607

Theres one that buffs Greenskins hordes and even makes Skarsnik respawn at some point if you killed him already. Makes the Badlands bowl go either way now

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=823571035

Heres a Beastmen equivalent

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=819127007

>>172253754
you see anon when an ogre eats so much he gets a big round belly like mommy did when she made your little sister

and when the big round ogre is ready he poops out a little baby ogre

>>172253869
It's hard to say, since we don't know where things are taking place...I'd imagine something to do with Nordland, Bordelaux, and Barak Varr, since they're the major parts of each faction with actual lore about having naval forces. Maybe Estalia instead of Nordland, if they stay just an Empire clone.

>>172248887
>im is used by jews
>surprised that GW would change the dwarfish language so as not to be accused of antisemitism

>>172253943
>implying it's just 4chan that does this
>implying all humans don't immediately think about Fucking new things they discover
If we can't fuck it or make money from it, we kill it. On that note....are we the bad guys?

>>172248292
I read a book, I think it was Dragonlance so not the same dwarfs, but they had a reason that made sense. Hammers and axes can be used for other shit. It makes a certain kind of sense that a Dwarfen Smith would make his hammer ideal for both smithing and killing. "Oh aye it can shape iron, but a grobi would have your arm clean off before ya finished your swing. It's trash, start over."

>>172253943
are you ok

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>>172251993
Saintes is successfully defended, and I get a general from the battle. Nice!

Here's a state of the world for you lads.

In short, RIP France.

>>172254291
I do remember a bit of lore where a dwarven smith was basically laughing over how easy it was to make human-tier swords, and how indignant a human diplomat was that he was leaving such an easy job to his apprentices.

>>172254170
>It's hard to say, since we don't know where things are taking place.

Nigga we know Lustria will be there

>>172253993
thx 4 spoon!

>>172253943
Well little things like these are what make a setting feel alive. Understanding how the characters live, eat, fight, build shelters etc. is what make the game world more immersive and "real". Reproduction is a big and important part of every creature's life so of course there is some curiosity

So it's pretty sure, right?

>Lord Mazdamundi and that albino saurus as LL for lizzies
>Tanqhol and Ikit for redditrats (Pestilens will be DLC, don't be idiots)
>elves are boring and nobody cares

>>172254682
I know, but are they also roping elves in? Is it going to be just Lustria? Will it even extend into Estalian and Vampire Counts territory?

I hope that it doesn't end up like India in Empire Total War - barely any other factions, no one really tries to fuck with it until it's too late and the Martha Confederacy controls the whole continent.

>>172255195
It's probably Canada, Lustria and Doughnut Island

Long time TW autist here, and I've played plenty of Warhammer. I also almost always add mods for better balance and tactical feel.

Is this necessary with the current version of the game? I played a ton at launch, took a long haitus, and now I'm dabbling again.

>>172255098
I dunno man, the reddit rat presence in Lustria is primarily Clan Pestilens, would make more sense for him to be one of the base LLs

>>172255739
Lizards v Rats Legendary Lord pack would make most sense with Cult of Sotek vs Clan Pestilens. It'd be nice if it was all there in the base game but that's hard to believe

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>120mb patch
WHAT IS IT GUYS?

>>172255451
For some aspects, yes depending on what you want your game to play like.

Also the generic cosmetic stuff

>>172255451

Vanilla balance is on point imo.

>>172255915
Some balance changes that make little to no sense.

>>172255915
Vampire Cunts nerfs of course.
no

>>172255856
It wouldn't make any sense for it not to be in the base game. Lizardmen have no other immediate competition than Skaven, of which the single greatest lore conflict is Clan Pestilence.

>>172255915
brettonia nerfs

also >120mb
not >34gb updates hehexd

>>172255451
Also a long time tw autist here, I've never played any tw with mods that weren't strictly cosmetic. I think the game designers have done a good job throughout the years, minus the glitches on the map that have nothing the he do with the units themselves

>>172255856
>Lizards v Rats Legendary Lord pack would make most sense with Cult of Sotek vs Clan Pestilens
This oneis a pretty much guaranteed.

The next, obvious, is a HE vs. DE pack. Black Corsairs vs. Arnheim?
The Elves have shit tons of potential LLs, enough for three faction each, though. Kinda hard to guess who will be in.

>>172255856
The Lord packs kind of trigger me. They basically made mercenaries dlc, and that's a huge game changer. Not being able to instant recruit an army of rank 9 soldiers makes the campaigns a lot harder, and essentially forces you to shell out $8 for every pack

>>172255098
I'm betting on kroak and kroq gar for the lizzies

>>172256429
>buy the lord packs for the lords/campaigns
>get mod that disables RoRs for both you and the ai

>>172252773
Dwarfs also have a 6:1 male:female ratio, which robably explains why so many Dawi go the Slayer route.

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So what motivation would old world factions have to go to the new world, and vice versa?

>>172255098
>Lizardmen - Mazdamundi, Kroq Gar, Tehenhauin
>Skaven - Grey Seer Thanquol, Queek Headtaker, Lord Skrolk

These make the most sense for the game and stay within CA's format

>>172256881
the prospect of slaying hot elf pussy

Only faggots main Vampires in MP

>>172256881
Lizardman cities are covered in gold and filled with magical relics and their idea of what's valuable and what isn't is pretty different from the other races, so there's a chance you can run in, grab some trinkets, and run out without getting sacrificed to the Old Ones - at least, that's the general idea.

>>172256881
Lizardmen listen to vague prophecies that can tell them to do whatever the fuck to advance the plans of the old ones. That can include going to the old world to fuck people up.

Skaven just want overwhelm everything and they already have a presence in the old world.

Dark Elves constantly raid the northern areas of the old world to loot and take slaves from Norsca, Bretonnia, and the Empire. Their economy is entirely dependent on it.

High Elves are there to keep global order and already have a presence in the Fortress of Dawn, they play world police so they go wherever the fuck

>>172256881
Wealth, Power, FOIGHTIN
For everyobe really, there's no reason for any faction not to go

>>172256881

Quests for dark elves and high elves.

Lizards hate chaos with a passion so a crusadey spirit for them. It makes me think almost our conquistadors in reverse with the lizards going across the sea.


Big question is how the settlement divide might happen - could elves settle only human territory or dorfs too? Can lizards settle anywhere or only dorf/orc territory?


Also while skaven or tomb kangz is possible do we know if it might be daemons instead? Or I guess daemons be the later DLC ala Bretonnia.

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So i started playing as Ogres in Call of Warhammer and it seems that there is no music for them.

What music will fit Ogres? Would hunnic/mongolic themed music be okay for them? Post something good if you have.

I forgot how clunky Medieval 2 was. What a pain to come to it right after playing newer titles.

>>172256859
That's not how slayer lore works tho, they do that because they've dishonored themselves, not because there's not enough women

>>172257350
[mongolian throat singing intensifies]

>>172257350
Tuvan throat-singing, obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98

>>172256881
What more reason do you need than killing elf men and banging elf women? Do the laws of chivalry apply in the new world? The lady wouldn't mind as long as it's not human girls

>>172256401
>Kinda hard to guess who will be in.
Imrik is too based not be in, eltharion is another cool guy but he has a thing for drama and may fit better with a microcampaign dlc set against that assassin guy I don't remember the name of
Alarielle being the queen is the closest thing we have to the highest rank on ulthuan since the current phoenix king is a pussy, so we get to cover all bases with faction leader, magic centric LL, female quota and feet fetish fuel

tyrion and teclis make sense for free additions like with vlad and isa or part of a dlc

Dark elves MUST have malekith, morathi may then be the next candidate but who knows, given the nautical focus of this game and the necessity to have someone being interested in lustria we may see huron squiddiface

the skaven are difficult but ikit is a good bet, aldo scrolq

>>172257403
I was being half tongue-in-cheek, but if you think about sociological factors, what does a society do with excess men who will never be able to reproduce? Send them off to die in battle, of course, so it's logical that Dwarfish biology would give rise to the Slayer oath being created as a societal institution. Obviously individual slayers take the oath because they've been dishonored, but nothing says that Dwarfish society would necessarily develop a custom of sending dishonored individuals to die in battle simply due to their dishonor.

>>172257323
Chaos expansion is going to be after the new world stuff is released.

>>172257350

Presumably spooky tribal shit. Chanting, drums, primitive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwpgRi_WU4U&list=PL030FFF78687056CF&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7SBbBnqz8&list=PL030FFF78687056CF&index=4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kby8c6rox3Y&index=5&list=PLB82D81E402C2CA70 has a lot of incoherent chanting and grunting that feels it could work for ogres.


Now for legit shit look up Tibetan throat singing. Not nu age western world music but legit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GslzWvQRiJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH9EwIrR4U8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L-Q3KCmr50 - little bit too modern but it works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBhcEn23GK4&list=PLT1XYIH71Uf_njjXtmpe7xUbZtT2Kd4M5

>>172257815

An expansion of just the four lords of chaos though? It wouldn't fit in ogres and tomb kings and such.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrfmPCCpV9I&index=2&list=PLT1XYIH71Uf_njjXtmpe7xUbZtT2Kd4M5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFkSVLCRzvk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Dz84buYRs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L42AnSAdzXw

>Chants for world peace
>sounds like a demon haunted abode of the damned

k

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>>172253116
This and also pretty much all the major and minor human settlements in the game have either licit or illicit prostitute available for horny men. There's no real blue balls in the human lands.

Dwarfs on the other hand...

>>172256118
I think there have to be Skaven in Lustria, I just think Clan Pestilens will have their own DLC

>>172258270
>name my band

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How the fuck do I get started off as Brettonia, lads?

I rush the orc settlement, then lay siege to Marienburg, but peasants are fucking trash and I can't for the life of me storm the city. Can't just sit and siege it either as my economy drains too quick.

>>172257703
DE will also get Malus Darkblade. Then they may get Hellebron, though that means 4 LLs already.

The Black Corsair guy would be the obviosu choice for a Balck Corsair DLC.

Classically, the Elves have been the go-to factions to add female charcters for maximum fetish fuel, and in WHFB High Elves and Dark Elves pretty much don't care about gender a whole lot, so brace for all Heroes and normal Lords being available in Faggot and Fetish flavour.

>>172258879
If you can't take it on the second turn after one round of recruitment you simply need to git gud by practice. That said, it's pretty beneficial to just wait out the orc incursions to farm them for chivalry and xp.

Anyone else hyped for the Vampire Coast?

>>172257060
Everyone who plays Vamps gives no fucks about how obnoxiously over-powered they are. They're literally playing that faction out of their greed and desire for power, cackling in their underwear as they smother your archers in zombies.

They're all roleplayers even if they don't know it.

>>172259183

Wait out 20 turns of -20 happiness? That's some waiting out.

>>172259447
Playing vamps really is fun, and you can't help but feel like a complete piece of shit. Diplomacy means nothing to you, make peace treaties for gold then kill people anyways, if you aren't untrustworthy as vamps you're doing it wrong

>>172259620
You can wipe the floor with the rebels and regain some public order though.

I'd like to play vampires if they were only like zombie and skeltans and shit and maybe some spoopy ghosts

but then you have stuff like bats and wolves and I'm just nah man nah

>>172259620
You get a ton of exp, chivalry and money by crushing the incursions though, which is the point of doing it. After that you should be ready to summon the Green Knight to take out Mousillion for example.

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>>172258587
The Reikland Dwarf Tossers. :^)

>>172257060
>maining factions
>not being a trve vnderstander and mastering all of them, even recolors like middenland

>>172259620

It's free guaranteed xp, gold and chivalry. What else would you even do the first 20 turns while you research confederation?

>>172259793
Doesn't help that there's literally no reason to use zombies/skeletons past the first 30 turns because you can just use stacks of grave guard.

>>172259447
They aren't obnoxiously op, cause they get shredded in pvp battles just like any other army. They simply have a unique play style that's very good for competent players, having zero ranged units makes for some brutal tactics. Dire wolves and fell bats are the true mvp

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>goes ashore 1 pixel in the remote northern corner of your province
>raids you for 800 gold -20 happines per turn

>>172259957
>he doesn't have a 20 stack zombie/skeleton army as the first wave
not making mortals despair/10

>>172260076
>move an army in to attack
>lol let me just retreat back to the sea/over a river

>>172260448
Forced March needs to be removed from the game

Is it just me or do units not actually put ladders on walls and climb them half the time?

>>172260540
Nah, just make it so you can only use forced march in your own or allied territory. Also, you shouldn't be able to retreat when raiding, and you get less money the further away from the town/city you are.

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Tomb Kings WHEN

>>172260632
You have to reissue the order, they can get stuck on stuff
same with having a unit at the gates blocking a ram

>>172240307
I wish they'd give the animation system a bit of a brush up. It can look so clumsy watching troops do that awkward left-right-left-right shuffle just to turn 90 degrees.

>>172260750
Reminder that chaos dwarfs with hats are objectively inferior to skeletons with hats

convince me not to buy Beastmen and Wood Elves dlc

or don't if you don't want to

>>172261220
the beastmen campaign is a lackluster even though it was fun to play it trough, but theyre fucking fun on grand campaign

It took me ages to realise that horses etc. actually follow the camera around with their heads. Freaked me out something proper

>>172260737
Best way to end the forced march meme: increased morale penalties for as long as you use it culminating in attrition at around 3-4 turns having it active

>>172260750

Why isn't mannfred with the von carsteins? isn't he a von carnstein too?

>>172262192
because he is opposing his daddy and mummy

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>>172257858
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>>172257465
This is great, thanks. Karl Sanders music is perfect to mix with Tibetan throat singing, which is tiring after 40 minutes.

>>172260540
>>172260737
>>172262107
I don't understand what were they thinking with that red radius around troops and cities. In Medieval 2 i could walk into it and thanks to that "catch" enemy armies. They couldn't move in their turn without fighting you (unless they retreated and wasted their move because of this). In Warhammer (i don't remember that from Shogun 2 or Rome 2 but i played them long time ago) my army can stand next to enemy army, and yet they will run away from you with their forced march in their turn. Its annoying, i want to fight battles in Total War not chase armies all the time. Also its sometimes difficult to place your armies next to each other to attack enemy together because you never can be sure that you walked close enough to enemy.
I think that just allowing you to walk into that red radius which will pin down enemy army would eliminate this problem.

>>172256881
I would literally go anywhere to fuck some women

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>>172262459
wud u fugg a dark elf

>>172258879
If I have trouble with Marienburg, I tend to actually sail over and take Grossel. It's hard to get there fast, but it is a much easier target, and helps put more of a stranglehold on the Marienburgers. Worst case scenario, try and draw them out. They'll have a full stack, but you can beat their numbers with good tactics.

If you get a grail chapel, you can recruit a grail reliquae that can make your peasants less shit, and battle pilgrims are good to throw into the fray once the spearmen get engaged. Peasant archers are great, make sure to take at least two of them in any army - you're going to treat your infantry like a block for the enemy to try and hammer on, not a good offensive force, so having a lot of arrows firing into the enemy as they come really helps. Also, even Yeomen can be a Ladysend. Yeomen Archers will outrange pistolers, and Knights Errant are actually really solid on their own. You just have to be willing to baby them with microing so they don't die off - that's half of why you treat your infantry as a block. It means you have to watch over them less, and you're free to micro with cavalry and get off some charges in the rear or sides that can really break enemy units.

Also, get a Damsel. The Lore of Life really helps keep your peasants fighting, especially if you're unfortunate enough not to have a relic. Lore of Beasts isn't bad either.

>>172262192
Vlad isnt supposed to be around when mannfred is there. Vlad and Isabella ran sylvania while mannfred was out becoming stronger, vlad tried to here take altdorf and died, then everyone thought the vampire counts were finished. Years later mannfred shows up and attacks altdorf again to try and avenge vlad.

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>>172257323

>Lizards hate chaos with a passion so a crusadey spirit for them. It makes me think almost our conquistadors in reverse with the lizards going across the sea.

Well, Mazdamundi's lore was, before the end times shitfest happened, that he came to the conclusion that the great plan of the old ones couldn't get moving if all the races were not in their d e s i g n a t e d geographical borders: that means all elves in Ulthuan, all humans in the old world, and all dwarfs in the world's edge mountains.

That means Mazdamundi's mission would include:

1.Dark Elf genocide
2.Wood Elf genocide
3.Chaos Dwarf genocide
4.New world human colonist genocide

Plus the erradication of all rats and the culling of greenskins.

If Durthu is Tree Hitler, then Mazdamundi would be Frog Stalin/Mao

>>172263074
My mum said Vampires can't die in the Warhammer Fantasy Battles universe

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>>172249328
homemade coming through

>>172263234
He looks like he's about to sneeze

>>172263128
Vlads ring, which makes him immortal, was stolen on the eve of battle by "the greatest thief of all time". Vlad died because his ring couldn't resurrect him after a warrior priest grabbed him and threw them both off the walls of altdorf, Impaling them in the spikes below. Isabella wasn't even mentioned in that battle so I dunno why she got added over neferata