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/bnsg/ - Blade and Soul General

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FM Guide 2017

>Upcoming 4/12 Update Info
http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/game/secrets-of-the-stratus/

>Current Event
http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/news/forging-ahead-weapon-upgrade-event/

>Server Transfer Information
http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/shop/character-transfer/

>Equipment Path Changes
http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/news/evolution-streamlining/

>/bnsg/ Servers
NA Group 2 (Mushin/Old Man Cho)
EU Group 1 (Windrest/Wild Springs/Highland Gate)

>/bnsg/ Raid Contacts
http://pastebin.com/hsp8YqNv

>/bnsg/ Clans Info
http://pastebin.com/2cXZc45Z

>BnS General Info & Resources
http://pastebin.com/w4TqMG8H

>Equipment and Daily Cheatsheets
http://pastebin.com/2e2mWiaE

>Mods
http://pastebin.com/Zcb5fwHX

>Community Yearbook
https://bnsgfriends.imgur.com/

>Previously on /bnsg/
>>172045224
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beaver lyns
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>>172208534
Now stay that way.
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>>172208589
>not using the university chart as the op image
>still no index in op
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>>172208676
fuck you it's a dog
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>>172208901
:B
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Reminder to bully sins. Specially the ones that go blue buff and try to disrespect you.
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Lobbies? At THESE hours?
No need to get those specks of yours checked, seeing is indeed believing!

Running Masts, NA#677761.

Treasures abound among these once-proud shipyards. Lend us your sword, and fish-up a Bracelet or two for your troubles! Hopefully.
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>>172209034
that bombardment speed kills me
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>>172208695
too late I'm working on preset tweaks
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>>172209198
No swords, blademasters need sleep. Rats are nocturnal though so you might get lynblades.
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>>172209264
There is some sort of singularity at the center of your face drawing your eyes together like a collapsing neutron star
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>>172209353
holy fuck lmao
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>>172209264
ditch the white hair, it still makes you look like a cancer patient
chin is too weak, make it a smidge longer and adjust jaw/cheeks to fit it
change eye shape from dropping bottom lids to a little more up then take pupils down a notch and widen eyes a little
need a notch or two of space between the eyes too as >>172209353 cleverly said
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So what's the best professions these days?
Before it was the treehuggers and soul wardens, for money, right?
I can imagine that's changed a bit for lower levels now that weapon upgrading isn't a thing on lower levels.
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>>172209542

soul warden or anything using empyrean charms for raven weps
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>When you know but you humor him anyways
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>>172209338
Blade or sword, I'll take all comers for this ride, regardless of size or shape! Just don't poke any holes in the rotting wood, we don't need to be reeking of seawater by morning's end.

3/6 for Masts, NA# 667 761

>>172209542
>>172209608
Wardens used to be a fairly reliable trade to invest in, yet their major synths (Primers and Stones) have drastically fallen by the wayside in regards to overall profitability. Haven't tapped the shoulders of any Potters recently, but Acquired Taste has remained a strong choice ever since the delectable arrival of Cookies on the materialistic scene.

Posting with an alt due to lack of relevant screencaps. Direly in need of updating my portfolio here...
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>>172209507
everything else has been tweaked to suggestions, I like the white hair
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Here has my sub 5 min doodle KEIO PP
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>>172209198
>>172209863
Departed as four! Thanks for playing.
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>>172210081
suggest you kill yourself
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>>172210482
will you buy me the helium tank
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>>172210081
is that the same skin tone you had when you had brown hair? i dont know if its the actual skin tone or just your hair color that makes you look drained of life
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>>172210932
no I used this skin tone
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>>172211282
use that again with a different hair color and smaller pupils by another notch along with bringing the nose up slightly since by your side profile your nose tends to look droppy and you're done
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Finally, some tangible results! After days and days of repeated testing, leveling, and poring over spreadsheets, I have pinpointed the offending sliders!

While I'm still unsure of the EXACT values that trigger invisibility, the sliders involved are Eye Size and Eye Distance. Whether it's only one of them or both, I also don't know. Setting either of them to certain values will prevent you from being seen in dungeon lobbies.

Thanks to everyone who aided me in my investigation! It would've taken so, so much longer without their help! I'm going to continue to collect data from anyone who wishes to give it, but I think I've earned a break!
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>>172211727
Too add on to this, here is my spreadsheet with the various slider sets I've been provided with.

Disclaimer: This has only been tested on LynF, but should theoretically work with LynM. I've highlighted the specific combinations that should work. Your mileage may vary with other races.
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>>172211727
>>172211851
Thank you for finally figuring out why this happens. Too bad NCsoft will probably never fix it but you've done us all a service
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last image before bed, sorry for so many

>>172211441
Taking the rest of the slider advice into account, I'm keeping the hair color no matter what since I find it to best fit the ears. In all honestly though this is starting to get a bit too tan for my tastes so I'll probably lighten up just a little.
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Reto's really not a beaver?

dam
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>>172212291
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>>172212291
HAHAHA
HAHAHA

HAHHAHAHAHA
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>>172212291
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fuk you guys
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AYO

MY NIGGA

KONO YUNG

ARE YOU STILL HERE
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productive weekend
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>>172212291

I can't Bealiver it!
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Clownpiece is trash
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>>172217097
What did my waifu ever do to you
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>>172215892

>spends more time on the floor than actually fighting or doing mechanics
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>>172217097
sounds like you got your ass kicked
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>>172217361
calm down there Werety, you weren't even in the top 6
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what the fuck is a clownpiece
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>>172217980
It's werety ffs
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>when you try to find a video from your childhood but cant
worst fucking feeling, goodnight bnsg
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>>172217980
>werety dying to 2 punishment stacks
laffin
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>>172212291
over the line ryzna
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>>172220641
I can come fuck you in the ass, just like how your daddy used to.
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>>172222050
>raid has to wait around with punishments
laffin
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>>172223267
At least EU didn't spend a whole month wiping at Raven unlike NA :ok_hand: /bnsgiggle
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>>172222823
Gross anon, are you trying to get Luurpies?
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Does pirate bracelet still drop from bsh?
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Have you hugged your favorite lyn today, anon?
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>>172225102
no I hate hugs and ceruleans

especially hugging ceruleans
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>>172225164
Rude
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>>172217361
with 54k health i need to appreciate the floor a bit, it gives me nutrients
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>>172225225
people who hug the unwilling are ruder
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>no dkv run in the last 6 hours
why is group 6 so dead
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Is blade and soul supposed to be hard in anyway?

i'm leveling my assassin level ~16 right now. I can usually kill mobs 1v1 and 1v2 but take significant damage if its 1v3, good chance of death.

Luckily I can stealth and run away. Whats it like with other class at low level? Or at highlevel?
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>>172226303

>not doing dkv on reset day

now you need some luck

>>172226547

wait to like 21~ level where you perma stealth and kill them without actual interraction, you just need to spec properly
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>>172226547
I don't feel like it's meant to be hard but I found sin quite difficult to play at first as well. I'd say sin would probably be one of the more tedious classes at low levels to play becuase you don't get a lot of aoe skills and you don't really unlock your full potential until later on.

Force master on the other hand is faceroll easy at low levels, as is summoner and warlock. Basically ranged classes with good aoes have an easier time leveling up.

At higher levels death isn't really a thing that should be happening unless you just don't dodge enemy attacks or you fail dungeon mechanics in some way or form.
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>>172226547

Sin is one of the easiest classes to level as you can attack while in stealth without breaking it. You'll find it much harder once you hit end game and bosses have true sight.
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>>172225061

Yes
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Threadly reminder to check for possible spiders under your beds and remove them if necessary
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>>172228750

I checked after I read this. Nothing. I'm going to sleep alone again tonight.
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>>172228976
On the contrary it is good, spiders are rude and also pesky
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>>172228976
i'll sleep with you anon
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>>172228750
All spiders here are small and harmless though. I'll much rather leave them be so they can hunt small insects for me than kill them.
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>>172225891
Floors are comfy.
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>>172229238
t. spider
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>>172229238
fuck off maku
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>>172229265
Why do you show your pants to everyone? That is a very slutty move.
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I'm taking a nap. No one in NA post a DC lobby until I wake up in 2 hours
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Not sure if ragequit or just disconnection. Prob disconnection but he was dead after that anyways.
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>>172228750

I had a massive spider on my printer, had to move it outside ( the whole printer ).
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Blademaster with 6ms ping y\n?
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>>172229660
post more sin bullying as kfm pls
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>>172230154

It's mostly me that gets bullied when I'm playing KFM. I pretty much leveled a warlock because I got so salty over being dumpstered by sins.
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>>172229578
Pls no slut shaming ;_;
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>>172230512
post more of that lovely jin butt
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>>172230047

You can play any class at that ping.
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>>172230935
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>>172229265
ironically, this is the only floor pic i have with me in it
i should take more probably
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I think everyone has seen Nana's panties from all that time spent on the floor, slut.
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>>172231819
Maku pls ;_;
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>>172231819
>mfw nobody seen my panties
feels good man
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>>172232139

Don't worry it's bns. The game just makes sluts. I even managed to find this in a few seconds to just prove it.
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>>172232502
You are a thirstlord maku, that's why you actively seek sluts
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isn't maku the biggest slut of all?
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>>172232864
Most definitely.
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>>172232864
He latches on to any female character that gives him attention with his eight powerful legs.
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>>172232996
Guess I'll have to avoid him then thanks for info!
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>>172232584
>>172232864
>>172232995
>>172232996

I don't really do anything other than call people sluts and force myself to push the ready button over solo queue anxiety. Besides have you look around here and on bns? It's virtually impossible to not run into a slut (male).
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>>172233175
>call people sluts
wtf I hate maku now
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>>172233175
didnt you take slutty screenshots in really slutty outfits a while ago?
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>>172233260

:^)

>>172233318

Shit that does exist. Well it was once and I was bored. Forgive me that one time.
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>tfw maku won't inject his spider fluids into your boi pucci to procreate spider solitaire
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remove spiders reeee
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>>172234507
Remove antivenom, imagine how great the internet would be if most brazilian wandering spider bites were fatal instead of being treated.
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>>172232502
>F2 Ryzna
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>>172226879
>>172226821
>>172226628
Thanks for the reply.

I just made a new class, summoner. I don't know if its just me or it seems to be easy mode compared to assassin in leveling process. Literally hitting only tab tarring and mobs seems to die in seconds without worrying about my health.
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>>172234952
Ryzna is my #1 ayylmao
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>>172234952
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>>172235341
Would eat until numb
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Wew
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I remember when Maku said he believed in me instead of calling me a slut
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>>172237267
I remember when Maku was bamboo hero instead of being a pirate
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>>172237368
I remember when Maku would fill the thread with inspirational words instead of calling me an onahole
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How do we revive /bnsg/?
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>>172233586
>maku is just another slut like everyone else
i believed in you and this is how you betray me
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>>172237643
Revive it to what? A circlejerk centered around avatarfags?
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>>172235616
i will fight you for that ayy m8
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>>172237643

press f to ress
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>Maku will never be our low-res hero again.
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>maku will never tell you to gas your rat because he is a rat now himself
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>>172237643
We must embark on a glorious quest, anon. We shall scour the world in search of each and every onahole. No stone shall be left unturned. Upon having made acquisition of all of them, we will proceed to stack them up together. Stack them high anon! We shall create the tallest pillar made of onaholes anyone could ever conceive,and we will slap God with it!
Moved my the burning flame of our hearts and our unwavering conviction he shall fulfill one wish. We will use this wish to create more onaholes and proceed to slap God into submission.
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>>172238002
I like this idea.
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>>172237851
No clue, it just feels like the general has been extra dead the past 1-2 months and I have no clue what caused it.
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>>172238160
raids
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>>172238269
Naryu sanctum will produce more lobbies for us, though that might not be enough to bring life.
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>>172237902
embarrassing picture ;__;
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>>172238160
We hit the period where the current content is pretty much done, add everything there is to discuss has been discussed. The new patch will breathe some life into the general for a while, until we hit that low point again.

Usually avatarfags and artfags keep the thread alive in the meantime, but since this general loves to shoot itself in the foot, they've all been run out.
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>>172238160
Server merge, then raids.

But all it takes is a few people posting and just like that the problems fixed
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>>172238160
>avatarfags disappear
>thread is suddenly more dead
really makes u think :)
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>>172235217
>a ranged class seems easier than a melee one
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>>172238905
Ideally they're all supposed to be equally "easy" or equally "hard" or "okay". That was the initial question, whether or not the assassin melee was particularly harder than other classes.
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>>172238597
>we need avatarfags
global 13
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>>172238160
by making more
LEWD
IMGUR
ALBUMS
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>>172238597
>>172238815
Why'd the avatarfags disappear I thought they thrived on getting attention, whether good or bad.
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>>172235217
Summoner is the easiest class to level. You basically faceroll leveling content.
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>>172239012
calm down maku
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>>172239012
Stop asking for lewd imgur albums when you already know it won't happen.
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>>172239365
h-how did you know
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>>172239691
this is gayer then i expected when i clicked it.
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>>172239685
But anons have already contributed so far I just want as many as possible in the name of justice so we can revive bnsg.
>>172239902
Forgive me please accept this humble offering
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>>172240084
thats a nice shimmering raptor
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>>172239691
>>172240084
:scream:
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>>172239691
>>172240084
s-stop
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The Revo thread is 8 days old
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>>172229265

>losing on a 50% rng

crawling on the floor laughing
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>>172243232
>hm11 does something stupid
every time
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>>172239012
damn where is the ryzna one?
just wanna study alien life ffs
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PvE spec changes coming on the 12th. Let me know if any of this is wrong or incomplete.

>All Classes
Hybrid Specs removed, all abilities now deal the selected elemental damage type or non-elemental damage. Many Skills had multiple trees combined into a single tree. Restrain skills now increase Evolved Damage(?).

> KUNG-FU MASTER
- Both: No-Threat Iframe Counter removed. Threat on RMB removed. Threat-Tremor now gives 30s Threat buff. Draw-In Tremor gives an AP buff on pulling in 3+ targets.
- Fire: Tiger Strike damage significantly increased. New free-damage 3 skill, "Blaze Kick" added on CCd targets.
- Wind: Cyclone Kick damage clasuses shuffled around. More damage at Stage 1 palm, less at Stage 4.

> BLADE MASTER
- Both: Draw stance now has skills on ZXV. Z is Fissure, C is a new CC-Extension skill, V is Flash Step. New Specs added for HM Block. Raid is now largely useless/had most of its clauses removed. Threat removed from Cyclone. Draw now has Threat buff for 30s specs. Rush now has 30s Threat buff spec.
- Fire: RMB is faster, but does significantly less damage. 4x Flickers now triggers 1s Conflagration.
- Lightning: Flicker damage increased, and further increased during Fulmination.

> DESTROYER
- Both: Emberstomp merged offensive trees and added a new clause for 20% damage increase to most damaging skills during it.
- Earth: Slight RMB damage increase (0.5 ap). Wrath now reduces F CD.
- Shadow: RMB now reduces F CD.

(More in follow up post)
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>>172245530

> BLADE DANCER
- Both: Cross-Element attacks are now same element, but deal less damage and have additional clauses reducing cooldowns of your primary skills.
- Wind: Wind Focus on Sunder Crit removed and replaced with new Wind Surge mechanic. zxc2 generate varying lengths of Wind Surge. V now Stuns.
- Lightning: Lightning Multi-Use RMB removed. Flash step is now a Draw-RMB spec option.

> ASSASSIN
- Both: Awakened RMB added. Not sure about other Assasin changes, haven't looked into them much. Sorry Assassins. RMB instant cast during Decoy Stance removed and replaced with Instant Cast during Stealth. X now has a 6s CD Poisoning Shuriken that can be used only after resists. 4 Now refreshes poison timer. Venom Pierce can be used on targets with 5 stacks of poison, but does not Maintain Stealth.
- Lightning: F Damage slightly increased. 4 Now lifesteals.
- Shadow: Venom Slash CD increased significantly, no longer has Increased Cast Speed.

> FORCE MASTER
- Both: Ice/Fire Soul removed. Heatwave is now ranged, but lost Daze spec and moved to Z. Orbits now only stack to 1, and are generatede on Crits with the respective element's skills. Force Blast got merged into Glacial Beam.
- Fire: Awakened Char is always the Soulburn skill now, but lost the burn-damage clause. Blazing Beam damage increased significantly.
- Ice: Cold Snap duration doubled. F now reduces Cold Snap CD.
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>>172245530
>>172245649

> SUMMONER
- Both: Weed Whack poison duration up (10->15), and gained a damage clause during Petal Storm Toss. Nettles and Briar Duration down (10->6). Nettles and Briar overall damage up, clauses got altered though on both. House/Alley Cat removed. Doom 'n Bloom damage up.
- Earth: 3 Now stacks Photosynthesis.
- Wind: You get access to real versions of Briars, Weed Whack, and Nettles that do Wind damage.

> WARLOCK
- Both: Attack/Defense Thrall removed. SS Resist-Resets removed.
- Ice: New HM RMB added. Instant-Cast Dragoncall Repulse removed. CDR for Shadow Orbs removed.
- Shadow: RMB Focus restore on Targeted enemy removed. New RMB branch added.

> SOUL FIGHTER
- Both: Dragon Fist is now only usable after Z, Dragon Fist buffed to compensate. Z lasts 6 seconds but is stronger. HM Heal/Heal clauses got shuffled around to make HM Heal more important. Windstorm damage when used at 5 Chi increased and now recovers HP.
- Frost: Conditions eased on RMB crit/back hit clauses. 5m Self-Centered draw-in Frost Storm spec added.
- Earth: 2x Kingfist conditionals removed, damage slightly up overall.
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>>172245649
>Force Blast got merged into Glacial Beam
Nah, glacial beam just got renamed to force blast and uses the force blast icon. It's exactly the same skill otherwise.
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>>172246223
Ah, I see, and they removed the damage clause on the old 'Force Blast' spec and renamed it to 'Impact', but retained the instant cast Inferno trigger.
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>>172245530
>- Wind: Cyclone Kick damage clasuses shuffled around. More damage at Stage 1 palm, less at Stage 4.
Think you misunderstood something. "Awakened Unleashed Flow" can only be triggered by Awakened Searing Palm(aka Soulburn).
Basically they nerfed the only thing which made wind dps relevant. Wind damage during SB takes a huge hit once skill revamp arrives.

Meanwhile fire receives completely unnecessary, huge buffs to Tiger Strike. Tiger Strike is now 0.5AP scaling behind Cyclone Kick, which is just stupid. There's no reason to play wind until we get those Vortex Temple mystic badges.
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>>172246831
Oh I completely read over the 'Awakened' part of that. Agreed on tiger strike buffs though. I was also wondering, do the two Tiger strike additional damage clauses stack, or are they replacement effects of each other?
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>>172247241
Yes, they do. Tiger Strike has 10.5 AP scaling during Soulburn.
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>>172239691
>>172240084
I guess flat really is justice

>>172245530
Adding for Des:
>Shadow
-Awakened wrath jumps from a 7.2 ap mod to 10.0 mod so using it during soulburn is now worth it
-Eradicate now has a HM version which increases AP mod by .5 (Same as what earth gets)
-Eradicate also now has a single target version which costs 5 less focus (Does not have galeforce CD reduction)
-Execute is no longer 50 focus per hit of channel, now just a flat 100 focus for 1 hit of damage (now 35ap mod instead of 4x 12ap with a 50ap hit at the end)
>Earth
Smash now has all trees merged.
>Both
-Powerslam is always fast with new skill tree
-Headbutt now always gives -defense
-Scorching strike always gets charge disable ignore and now deals extra damage if they cannot be launched
-Hurl always CC's for 30 seconds
-Ram and Blitz now have a few things merged in before spec choice
-Body kick no longer has a threat / taunt spec
-Upward Block has been removed
-First Tree of stone shield now lets you use Stone Armor (f skill) which is 3 second iframe (you cannot move or use abilities during). No CD but can only be used during stone shield


I feel like its worth noting for all classes. Your Tab now has daze + escape everything merged in. So expect a lot of dazes popping up on bosses at the worst times.
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>>172247241
>>172248142
Wait, I think I misunderstood that one. If you mean it like, normal Searing Palm stacking with a stun? Nope, doesn't work. 2.0 AP modifier gets applied once even if you met all conditions for it.
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>>172248148
what badge/bracelet/mystic amulet do destroyers want
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>>172249514
https://www.reddit.com/r/bladeandsoul/comments/61tff5/destroyer_q_a_412_edition/?utm_content=title&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=bladeandsoul

It's leddit, but a good source
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>>172242534
Really killed this game huh
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bnsg what makes the perfect waifu? what race, what appearance? tits or ass? dfc? if you already have a waifu do you think they look perfect or are there some things you'd change?
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>>172250980
that steak served on a skillet is my perfect waifu
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>>172249989
so shadow really will be better huh
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>>172250980
jinf makes perfect waifu
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>>172250980
My perfect waifu lives in the shadowrealm.
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>>172249514
>Shadow

-Badge:
Magnum Soul Badge - Reduces Fury CD by .5 sec on Eradicate

-Bracelet:
Both bracelets are actually really close as I understand it

Dragon:
Wrath deals additional damage equal to 435% attack

Tiger:
Apply Tiger buff for 6 sec when Might Cleave hits.
Apply Tiger buff for 2 sec when Galeforce hits.
With Tiger buff, Cleave/Eradicate deals additional damage of 220%.

Personally I'm all about Tiger. The guy who did the math at http://www.freedomplays.com/blade-soul-shadow-destroyer-guide/4/ makes an argument for both but its also chinese version so I'm not sure how that affects it. You're going to get more consistent damage out of Tiger though

-Mystic Badge:
BT Mystic: When willpower is up, Galeforce (F) CD is reset when Eradicate (RB) hits and Galeforce deals additional 350% damage. (This is the biggest thing that makes shadow rediculous)


>Earth

-Badge:
The new badge that gives Wrath on V

-Bracelet:
Tiger because of Mystic Badge

-Mystic Badge:
BT Mystic: Wrath reduces CD of Mighty Cleave by 6 seconds. (This gives absolutely ridiculous burst for Earth destroyers)
Mystic badges and bracelets fill a huge gap that Destroyers had been lacking when it came to damage, and both specs really need them to be viable (Including 8 piece BT ss) Earth is still really strong with all these changes and proper gear but I feel like Shadow is going to have an undeniable lead (Outside of PVP and ToI anyway)
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>>172250980
Make a decent looking character and just don't be a whore
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>>172252306
>bnsg
>don't be a whore
impossible
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>>172252306
Make a decent looking character and be a whore.
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>>172252306
Do I still qualify if I have a decent looking character and used to be a whore but not anymore
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>>172245649
>> ASSASSIN
>Awk F removed -> Awk RMB added (instant, no condition to use, only to be under soulburn)
>Swiftstep is duoble daze only
>landmine is now double knockdown, lost its daze spec, stack 2 poison
>all mine toss got merged
>shadow drain stacks 1 poison
>venon slash doesnt require crits anymore has 12 seconds cooldown (10 seconds if HM)
>decoy resist is now base (2 seconds if HM)
>pvp decoy now resets turning leaf if HM, lost blind/deaf
>spinal tap double stun has 9 seconds cooldown
>hook kick stacks 2 poison on poisoned target
>lotus fury stun spec is now 2 seconds only
>[shadow build] shadow dash is 5~16 meters
>[lightning build] shadow dash 0~16 meters
>[lightning build] stun lightning rod has 30sec cooldown
>both are 6 seconds cooldown
>shunpo got mergerd, now has the sidestep extra 0.5sec resist and its cooldown went from 24 to 16 seconds
>[lightning build] new shadow slash: stealths for 6 seconds (reduces shadow drain cd in 6 seconds if HM)
>[lightning build] mist slash now reduces shadow drain cd in 1 second on crit
>lightning stride doesnt reset poison timer anymore

tl;dr: sin pvp is not daze galore anymore, sin pve [dark] now can stack 5 poisons every 10 seconds with only 3tab1(or x if 1 is in cd) with no need to crit and [light] can now be permastealth with only 1

>>FORCE MASTER
>impact now increases dragonchar cast speed (now hm impact is useless)
>hm blazing beam reduces dual dragon cooldown on hit instead of on crit
>any skill crit generates orbs (any fire crit generates a fire orb, any ice crit = ice orb)
>dragonblaze/frost now has 12sec cooldown
>no more mobile divine viel
>no more auto-detonate
>multiblaze/chi bomb is now base spec, no need for HM (offals now only affect phantom grip)
>blazing wall can only be used during phantom grip
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>>172253197
You'll go back to your whoring ways sooner or later.
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>>172245779
>New RMB branch added
Reminder that this will make warlocks even more broken in 6v6, 1v1 and Toi
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>>172208589
new player here

which /vg/ guilds are currently the most active in US servers?
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>>172257263
NA Mushin - truNEET - cerulean
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>>172257263
truneet
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>>172257434
>>172257453
how much space is even left in truneet?
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>>172257263

Truneet and friend both on mushin
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>>172257914
enough probably
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Happy birthday kyoppi! Congrats on coming out of the closet on your birthday!
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>>172257914
It's getting pretty full, but there's still alts in there that can be kicked out to make room.
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>>172258489
kyo x ao otp
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Daily Challenges + JSY and CS
NA #746 266
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>>172261168
3/4 or 6
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>>172252306
>>172253049
What qualifies as decent looking character?
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>>172261168
Departed as 6
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>>172260932
You'd both like that too much.
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>>172263214
I hate to agree with rat boy here, but ya thats to gay and you would like it way to much.
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I keep track of how much money I've spent on this game. At what threshold, say 500$ or 1000$, should I just change my character name to one of those Chink OuO names
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>>172258489
>>172260932
I'm not gay
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>>172264169
But it is your birthday? Happy Birthday.
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>>172252306
This is my criteria as well. Got a list of anyone who fits it?
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>>172264018
$1
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>>172264251
thank you, anon
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>>172265106

Nobody, we're all ugly whores here.
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Daily Challenges

NA # 754 764
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>>172268231
4/x, departing in 3-5min
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>>172268231
Gone
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>>172257434
>>172257453
>>172257961
is any member who can invite new players online right now?
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>>172269815
Niyo, Netopi, Fahstir, Dezzy, SuperKawaiiDesu
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Where are the Lyn bellies
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>>172269953
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>>172269898
I'm not available right now, sorry!
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>>172269953
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>>172269953
Here let me help contribute to all this slutty belly posts.
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>>172271874
You gotta look down the scope to aim. Man wind users have trouble with everything after all
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I want Reto to gnaw on my wood if you know what I mean.
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beaver is a rat too
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>>172269953
>tfw no lynf friend to do this with
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>>172272486
do you like cat lynfs
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>>172272486
>tfw no lynf friend to do this with
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>>172272430
went to pub
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>>172272768
>>172272749
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>>172269953
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>tfw no lyn friends to do this with
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>>172274203
Any rat you wouldn't gas?
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you guys really never get tired of the same "jokes" day in and day out huh. every thread is the same shit ad nauseam
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>>172274203
SIEG HEIL
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>>172274203
Why is this soldier about to gas himself? And why is Kyoppi watching this mad man last moments?
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eu server, frequent lag spikes where everything stands in place and high ping in general. any suggestions?
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Is it feetposting time yet?
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i`m going to eat a rat for dinner today
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>>172275407
Those are very cute and dainty shoes, would you like to step on me?
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>>172275671
Only if you beg first.
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>>172274763
>handles are on the inside of a gas chamber
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>>172275407
What outfit is this?
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>>172276905
Crimson Butterfly
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>>172274815
sounds like your actual connection rather than any server action, try taking a ping test and if it is actually your connection ask your isp
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How do I keep Focus up as FM? Do I just need enough Crit rate to make LMB-RMB focus positive consistently?
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>>172277263
1. when you get low swap to rlf until you get a focus proc
2. Use dragonfrost when you're low on focus
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>>172277263
what does your gear look like
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NA Daily Challenges
#770 494
birthday edition
>>
Post lewd lyns!
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>>172279097
3/6
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>>172279097
full ok bye thank you
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>>172278243
>>172279036
I'm level 30, so my gear sucks. Thanks for the advice though. Frost F skills for focus.
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>>172279310
Nooooooo!

>>172279097
How could you hoes leave me!
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>>172279097
can you tell reto to stream a movie?
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>>172280661
Post bare legs.
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>>172280742
what movie should I ask him to stream
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i like kyopppi
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>no brownie lewds

bnsg is dead to me
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>>172284076
>being race traitor
you are soon to be truly dead
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>>172283992
thanks I like you too
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>>172283992
>>172284310

What the fuck is the point of all this samefagging?
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>>172284395
just because you think it's samefagging, doesn't mean it's samefagging
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>>172284395
I didn't do anything
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post cute characters please
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>>172284659
play csgo
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>>172284659
what is the definition of cute character
name them
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>>172284561
>>172284606

Calling out samefagging results in more samefagging. I'm done.
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>>172285047
lol, idiot
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>>172285047
?
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>>172285167
Link me that Chocobo Colour Creator, kyooopi
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>>172285294
http://ffxivchocobo.com/en#results
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>>172284659
>>
>tfw skd won't come inside my boi pucci
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>>172285764
speak for yourself
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>>172285510
how did you manage to roll a gon only class on a yun?
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>>172280742
I'll stream anything I'm told to as long as I've never seen it before

Just give me a name
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lobbies when
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I found an autistic Namsoyoo. What do?
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>>172286575
make one.
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>>172286571
the fly 2
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>>172286571
god of cookery
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>>172286571

Death Bed: The Bed that Eats
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>>172287065
but I'm too shy
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>>172287075
no one seeds meme movies
>>172287170
>>172287219
and I can't find these

Tell me on discord and not here or we'll end up spamming the thread
Reto#3972
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>>172284659
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>>172287252
k

NA DC Lobby #783968
scale and orbs provided.
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>>172287320
stream the new godzilla movie
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because I'm too lazy to get a screencap, here's my Lyn that I paid some furfag to draw.

he was a blade dancer. I ended up giving up around the time you start Silverfrost because my weapons weren't up to par and grinding the materials and money needed to upgrade was draining my soul.
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>>172287556
>commissioning art for your mmo character
gear has been streamlined and is about to be streamlined again, but still don't come back
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>>172287320
The Cabin in the Woods
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>>172287417
4/6 5 mins til leaving the station.
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>>172287804
fine ill stream this in like an hour

no more suggestions pls
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>>172284076

but there's like only brownie lewds...

taeyo, vixen, netopi, frl... question is...

are there more chocolate than white waifus in general?
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>>172288089
>netopi
>brown
?
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>>172287659
maybe it wasn't the best use of my money, but I don't regret spending it.

and yes, I know about the streamlining, but the raw material cost was starting to get on my tits. nevermind the cost of actually applying materials to my gear and the fact that the primary grinding spot for Soulstones to actually USE the materials at all assumes you're in your Hongmoon Levels.
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>>172288172

with the tan I'd consider her more brown than white
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>>172287417
Departed as 5
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>>172288241
>any white girl can get a tan and be considered brown now
ok
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>>172284076
I have hope. Just waiting patiently for eyelashes lewds now.
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>>172288505

You can't really just "get a tan", if anything wouldn't even count those stuck in between. Where are the pure white ones though?
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sasuga, so reliable
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>>172288715
I would but nobody likes lyns
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>>172288954
deleted it
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>>172287556
cute art anon
I wish I could into coloring, it way to hard to get it right
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>>172291463
I told you if you don't change that scar color it's gonna look like a dirty sanchez
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>>172291551
not really anon, you are just silly.
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>>172291463
why is there shit smeared on it's face?
>>
buuty
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>>172291675
its*
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Hey. What'd I miss
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>>172293967
Me
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>>172293967
you look different

is that really you edgemaster?
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>>172294182
Haaa, gaaay.

>>172294425
Suffering from a scrape and a bad case of unactivated windows, but more or less.
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>>172269953
>only asking for lyn bellies
All bellies are cute
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>>172294530
welcome back, hope you're ready to transfer to mushin now
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>>172294876
That's my secret. I'm already on mushin.
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Kinda new to the PvP system here. How good/bad are Blade masters?
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>>172295997
bns pvp is shit don't bother unless you roll assassin or warlock
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I drew maku
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>>172295997
Blade masters are pretty decent, but you'll need a lot of the HM skills in order to be any good

Although who knows once the skill system update hits
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>>172296107
Fantastic
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I drew reto
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>>172296394
That's not a picture of a beaver.
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>>172296394
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edgier than ever before

>>172296394
I'm very happy you drew a dog and not the animal that will not be mentioned
>>172296624
die
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cuckoppi gets called out on his lies in discord and ignores it
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH
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I draw too when I am not so tired or lazy.
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did you know at the height of the fur trade a reto pelt was worth about 10 shillings?
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>>172296707
...?
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Tomb NA #801175
3/6
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>>172296707
you don't even play anymore, why do you keep forcing drama
>>
>>172297241
RYZNA IS THIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCC
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>>172297242
If I don't play anymore, how am I in the raid discord and in the clan? :thinking:
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>>172297241
5/6
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>>172297350
its Netopi.
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>>172297241
Happy birthday Kyoppi, I think you're cute!
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>>172297526
thanks but it's not my birthday anymore

>>172297480
don't reply to him
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>>172297480
I'm not, but go back on cuckoppi's dick reto
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>>172297350
heres your last (you) idiot since its obvious you arent in either
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>>172297241
Gone!
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>>172297595
It's still your birthday for me.
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>>172297480
>implying I care about minigames enough to post about it
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>>172297595
I'm sorry, I tried to whisper you earlier to say it but you were in a dungeon I think.
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>>172297621
I don't post anything in this thread but lobbies and memes
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>>172297329
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>>172296707
what if you stay there and don't come back?
good right?
>>
If you give the shitposter attention, the thread gets derailed and turns to cancer.

Always ignore a shitposter. Don't quote. Don't reply. Let them rot.

This has been a public service announcement
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>>172298110
"sins have 3 escapes"
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>>172298168
what's the 3rd one?
tab, flower and...?
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holy shit i have completely forgotten how to play this game
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>>172296707
which discord, invite me
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>>172298390
i'd like to know this as well kyo
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I'm depressed
someone please stream a movie so i can watch it in bed while hooked up to oxygen and dialysis
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>>172298762
I can't help you tonight, but if you're still looking I'll stream a certain 4chan classic tomorrow.
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>>172298762
this image makes be depressed...that looks like my dog.
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>>172298886
you better post the gif first
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>>172298762
>>172299015
No more depressing nerds.

It's contagious.
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>>172297697
that's okay, don't worry about it, anon
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Tomb NA #805306
5/6
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>>172299367
Gone
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>>172296652
there are no dog rats except fox rats since foxes are canines
that one rat type with big tail is legit beaver
also beavers are rodents like all rats
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>>172296707

[11:47 PM] Kyoppi: bm has more counterplay than sin
[11:48 PM] Kyoppi: sin can 100-0 at any point
[11:48 PM] Kyoppi: has 3 escapes
[11:48 PM] Kyoppi: THREE
[11:48 PM] Kyoppi: and should you somehow be retarded enough to fuck up 3 times in under a minute
[11:48 PM] Kyoppi: you can just stealth and run away

Later

[11:56 PM] Chase: @Kyoppi im actually curious what sin's 3rd tab is

[12:05 AM] Kyoppi: @Chase I was counting the anti-grab that reto brought up if you really care but I ignored you because I find you annoying to talk about pvp with and I thought you'd argue it
[12:05 AM] Kyoppi: I'm only responding now because of shitposters so you're welcome
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>>172299829
Kyoppi isn't wrong though?
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>>172298569
iktf
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>>172299962
then every class has 3 tabs
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>>172299829
LMAO CHASE BTFO

#TeamPinkarin
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>>172300072
really? i didn't know SF had a grapple break on top of tab
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>>172300072

But not every escape is a tab though
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>>172299829
dont forget the f roll escapes for sins
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>>172300072
t. silver player
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>>172299962
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>>172300328
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Let's talk about mini games bnsg. In particular solo queue anxiety. Why is it after winning a single match I feel completely exhausted and unable to hit ready anymore even though it's just a video game?
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>>172300757
Probably the crushing guilt of playing warlock in f9 :^)
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>>172300187
Kyoppi seems to think so. So lots of classes have 3 escapes
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>>172301005

So true. I would play my kfm more but fuck playing kfm at 130 ping. It's so suffering.
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With the market in a state of flux upon the announcement of mass-scale weaponry changes, raw coin is worth far more than most materials could formerly boast. Treat yourself tonight on an NPC's dollar, and fill your Quest Log with well-warranted rewards!

Running Daily Cycle (Sneks, Yeti, Asuraland possibly Narrows) + Winter Wrap-up / Jin-Jin, NA# 808 736
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>Sign in front of the "Predator's Den" is a picture of Lyn.
Oh dear.
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>>172301376
Amazingly, we've already filled-up! Didn't take long at all, thanks for rushing to our aid yet again.
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>>172301376
Me on the right.
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>>172300621
I miss this lyn
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Naryu Foundry and Desolate Tomb NA #809882
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>>172300621
We must continue the trend.
I like it.
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>>172301863
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>>172301860
Deaprted
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how can autism be used as an insult?
Only ignorant people use autism as an insult. (And there's nothing I hate more than ignorance)
Autism is a gift in my case, I have an AP of over 770 which makes me technically a genius thanks to my autism. I've been going through dungeons all my life being bored out of my mind getting at least 50k DPS on all boss fights (and all deaths were silly mistakes) because Im just too good for this game. I cant wait for everyone else to learn bosses I already knew within the first day or too of release
Each patch I scored the best clear times on the raids we do and Arveene came to my discord to tell me that, which obviously resulted in being called a fag which is true but I should't be ridiculed for it.
So in conclusion, calling someone autistic is not an insult, in my case it makes me highly gifted.
ps I don't know if this has anything to do with my autism but I am a sociopath so I'm not hindered by irrational emotions like guilt, compassion, empathy, etc.
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Don't reply to it.
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>>172302367
same
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>>172302481
DONT STEAL MY MEME
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>>172300621
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>>172300621
>>172301548
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>Yun
>Sliders
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>172304106
The first step is to not use that hair.
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>>172304016
Oh hey someone saved that thing I made

On a related note I like using this face on its own, though maybe it could use some text as well. I was leaning towards a Viper album cover, but I wouldn't know which to go with
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>>172301979
who is this semen demon
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>>172304106
Hi Ryzna
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>>172304284

A slut to the bamboo cause.
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>>172304158
But I'm not making a yun if I'm not using hair001
and bright white, pink or blue colors
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>>172304280

Eyes keeping track of a target makes for some interesting expressions during certain actions.
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>>172304280
Post that orange ass
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>>172305778

This is an orange ass. Does it count?
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>>172304280
gul album when
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The struggles of a fresh arrival (or up-and-coming alt) can be all too real, especially with barely any gear to your name. Can anyone help this not-so Literal Who?

Running Yeti (and possibly Asura), NA# 821 000

Bit of a longshot for much activity to come my way during these hours, but it's better this thread than the overly-demanding masses of F8.
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>>172309150
on my way hopefully it wont just be the 2 of us
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>>172309150
gimme a bit to launch the game up
>>
Is this correct for class outlooks next patch, including Amulets and Bracelets? (PvE)

>KFM
Better damage all around, harder to manage rotation. RIP Wind.

>BM
Slightly better damage, some keys move around but mostly the same at the end of the day. Some synergistic damage gains between Amulet, Bracelet, and BT CD reduction on 4.

>Sin
Easier poison and stealth management, new awakened skill. Amulet, Bracelet, and Soul Badge combine to make crazy blue buff burst and CD reductions.

>Des
New shadow rotation with amulet, better damage across the board particularly for shadow with amulet and bracelet synergy combo.

>BD
Loses RMB, but mostly remains the same as before. Picks up a reasonable amount of damage from amulet and bracelet mild synergy.

>WL
Not much changes besides gaining some non-synergistic extra damage from new gear.

>FM
The return of the new and improved Beam. Some QoL changes to accessory skills. Mostly the same with bigger numbers from gear.

>Sum
Lots of basic skill changes for rotation adjustments. Non-synergistic damage increases from bracelet. Amulets all suck.

>SF
Synergistic major burst damage increase to Z between Bracelet, Amulet, and skill tree changes. Free damage increases from changes to existing Soul Shields and Raven texts.
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>>172309272
>>172309287
Appreciate the support! Having to contend with sub-450 Attack and Silverfrost Valor Soul Shields doesn't make for a promising partner in the eyes of the public. The sooner this shell of mine is better reinforced, the better.

We've amassed a full house, against all odds! Thank you all ever so much.
>>
>>172309519

Not sure if it's a mistake or not but lightning draw is resetable for BD according to bnstree. If that's the case then with resets BD should never lose surge which is a huge buff.

The mystic badge is also a near 100% uptime on a 20% crit hit damage buff.
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>>172309709
>Resttable Lightning Draw
Dear god why.

And yeah, their Mystic Amulet seems good, though many classes get good amulets, so it's not really a super outlier there and doesn't change their play-pattern at all. Both it and their bracelet though do get some multiplied synergy effects from their BT SS set, which is notable.
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>>172309853

Your guess is as good as mine anon.
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>>172309519
>WL
>Not much changes besides gaining some non-synergistic extra damage from new gear.
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>>172309519
ice wl get a pretty big buff with their hm bombard actually doing something now
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>Go to BNStree and click on KR skills
>FM has been reduced to full retard skilling
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>>172311754
every class is like that now
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so is ice fm viable now?
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>>172312165
lol
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>>172312165
about as viable as wind bd
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>>172302367
i love you
i miss you
i want you
i need you
>>
>>172312245
>>172312249

how about april 12th?
>>
Can someone explain why BM needs big crit rate? What I mean about big is going beyond 60%~, I saw some bms stacking crit like crazy. Why tho? Does crit triggers something?
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>>172312341
YO DAWG CHECK THIS OUT
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>>172312280
still won't be better than fire
might be closer though
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>WL doubletap RMB is gone
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>>172313036
What is doubletab RMB
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>>172313161
Dim Volley for Rupture procs. This could out to be like playing a whole new class
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>>172313380
I don't fully understand
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>>172313380
the fuck is you smoking my nigga
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>>172313569
>>172313628
Missed the button to switch to shadow, my bad
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>>172312760
Oh that makes sense. But is it worth sacrificing crit dmg from pinnacle to go beyond 60%?
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>>172316341

You get enough crit from other accs + soul shields (fusion included) that you can safely use pinnacle bracelet from 55+% onwards.
>>
>>172316341
No. Just fuse your soul shields. Even if you're wearing all Pinnacle + acrimor earring, you should have enough crit still if you infuse.
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Is it me or theres shitton of Warlocks and Blademasters in this game?
>>
>>172318053

>shit load of warlocks

Most in demand class, one of the highest damage dealers, easy as fuck to play and barely has to do any specialised mechanics.

So yeah it's stuffed to the brim who want the easiest play experience possible.
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>>172318053
both require less than half a brain to pilot
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>>172318053
Warlock is the FotM boosted class right now. With high damage and unique access to the best buff in the game it's no wonder they're popular, really. When other classes start to outclass them in terms of damage and they get relegated to low-mid damage buff sluts I imagine their numbers will fall by a fair bit.

Blademasters are popular because they're the generic sword class and those are popular in every mmorpg.

>>172318448
then how much brain do summoners and force masters need to pilot?
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>>172319469
>then how much brain do summoners and force masters need to pilot?
Even less. Prepare yourself for hordes of awful FotM Masters post 12th.
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>>172319469
>used to outdps whale warlocks because you know how to play shadow
Shame dragoncall is easy and way better now
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>>172320636

>shadow
>hard

lol, literally 90% of the work is macroing.
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>>172320837
Tbh senpai I had harder time macroing shadow than ice
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>>172320837

How do you macro shadow when a bunch of rng is involved? The only macro I can see working is during SB.
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>>172320636
>tfw too intelligent to play ice
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>>172321207
>>172321116

Anon exagerated significantly but the point still holds merit when roughly 33% of the time it's just macro city because of leech and SB
>>
Tell me /bnsg/ how did you select your class? Did you regret it in long run? Would you reroll if chance was given to transfer all your gear?
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>>172299829
>[12:05 AM] Kyoppi: @Chase I was counting the anti-grab that reto brought up if you really care
Then BM has 3 escapes too?
Tab, flock and roll
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>>172309519
>>WL
>Not much changes

>broken class gets even more broken
>not much changes
Well, it isnt wrong
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>>172322818

I like swords, knives and daggers... so it wasn't hard to pick Blademaster. I did think about assassin and blade dancer but
>assassin/ninja 2Weeb4me
>blade dancer is rat-only
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The time has come to settle the battle of pure cancer.
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>>172322818

I watched a sin vs fm competetive match and liked how both of the classes performed. Would reroll and move gear ever since they've implemented the hold 2 rotation for fms.
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>>172323063

That post was purely pve. Most people on bnsg don't pvp anymore.
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>>172309519
>Non-synergistic damage increases from bracelet
tiger has earth build synergy
dragon only has BT 3set synergy
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>>172319469
>then how much brain do summoners and force masters need to pilot?
Force Masters got demoted from "retarded" to "literally braindead" class.

Before they'd at least have to remember to spec dragonchar to go full retard, they don't even need to do this anymore (and even got extra damage buffs lmao)
>>
Wake up NA I want to post a DC
>>
Which class is playable at 170ms ping?
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>>172327104
post it and i'll join in about 5 minutes, anon
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>>172321116
>>172321207
Macroing shadow is in reality way easier than ice since helix will never activate if you don't meet conditions and it is instant cast unlike non-blue dc, so you can just run around spamming that shit and do your dv\imprison\mantra rotation at the same time.

Use two macros:
4-F(outside leech and sb) and rmb-4(sb and leech with badge)

There is no need to macro anything else and it greatly reduces complexity.
>>
>>172328006

none of them
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>>172322818
I chose warlock because the default warlock boy in the character creation screen was cute.

No regrets, I love how flaming gay the animations are.
>>
>>172328274
Really?
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>>172328394
Yes and no

You probably won't be top dps but if you choose a ranged class you will still do ok. It depends on how you define playable. Try WL or SUM
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>>172322818

I wanted to be a lyn. I dislike FM, I dislike WL and summoner was murder on my fingers.

I'd like to play KFM too but they can't be lyn so that massively stunts my desire to do anything with it.
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>>172328525
I'm playing WL but wanted to try SF
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>>172328875
DOG
>>
>>172328875
3/4
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>>172328875
my favourite beaver
>>
>>172329018
if your ping is 170ms in the in-game reader you should be fine
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>>172328875
gone but probably going to post 2 more DC's after this
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>>172329428
There's an in game reader? Where?
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>>172329630
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>>172330640
Thank you, I have it set but the number is nowhere to be found in my screen and now that I notice it, my FPS are also missing
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>>172329630
this >>172330640
it shows skill delay so it's not exactly ping. It also only shows up if you cast a skill.
>>
>>172330640
>>172330785
also keep in mind the ingame value is usually roughly double what your actual ping is
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>>172330802
Holy hell this says I have 272ms skill delay, it's huge, wasn't the server in Dallas?
>>172330956
Oh, okay
>>
eristic is dumb
>>
So new characters no longer get the upgradeable weapon?
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>>172331227
not till you reach grand harvest
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>>172322818
>Enjoys Blade Dancer's play style and abilities.
>Wanted to be a smol weeb Samurai Wolf
>First outfit was Old Stratus Armor
>Things are going well
>Could have been any other race to post since I enjoy shitposter, but...
>RAT DEGENERATE FUCKIN MEMEIN FAGGOT MLYN.
>Character life in slow decline as other Lyn embrace it
>Realize Korean and Chinese rat players and developers embrace it too
>All following outfits for mlyn are made for degenerates
>The cycle forever continues
J u s t
>>
>>172331545

A real samurai would have commited seppeku long before now for being a disgrace to his people for playing wind.
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try 1 70-0
>tank both des
>die before the first jump

try 2 40-0
>first sb right after first the 2nd aoe at 60% with both des at 100% health and 2 shields on jang
>slowly but surely die

try 3 40-0
>WL's throw hissy fits and dont sb at all
>kill it with few deaths and chi restores

700+ lobby
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>>172331851
A true samurai never gives up tradition and suffers through it all.
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>>172331545
>>172332078
Stop pretending like you didn't want to be a slutty nurse all along.
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>>172331545
So when are you joining the LynF club?
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>>172332491
How would could I have known there would be so many patients who need their shots?

>>172332594
It will never happen. But people can hope right?
>>
gas all rats
>>
cringe as fk
>>
hug all lyns
(only cat ones)
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>>172335428
2/4
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>>172335424
Sure, have a "cat" hug.
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>>172335428
3/4 leaving in 5 minutes
>>
How many more dungeons/raids does Korea have that we're still waiting on?
-Vortex Temple/Red Lord
-Secret Hall of Ebondrake
-Tundra wolf
-upcoming underwater dungeon

Any others? Feels like we're almost caught up otherwise.
>>
>>172335428
went as 3
>>
>tfw you still haven't found a group to do the new content in two weeks

at least peach farming will be fun r-right? ;_;
>>
http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/news/secrets-of-the-stratus-dungeons/
>>
>>172337915
make a naryu sanctum static with me
>>
>>172337915

peach farming is also a static party activity
>>
>>172337915
at least you're not stuck in group 3
>>
Is WL damage shit?
>>
>>172338441
peach farming is solo content
the quests are all random per player
>>
>>172322818
I made a summoner because I like cats. I regretted it a little cause people started calling it braindead but I still liked it a lot. I tried out warlock and ended up liking it too. After a few month break, I made a wl as my new main on mushin now that it's the main server for us. So now I got a lyn warlock as my main. I already surpassed my summoner. Honestly with my ping, I don't have much choice with classes. I liked fm too but they're such a pain in the ass when I'm lagging to play as. I would try kung fu faster if my ping wasn't so bad. I love punching shit.
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>>172338579

what happens if people in a party get the same quest
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>>172338876
anal sex
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>>172338876
nothing much
we have quests that are shared and quests that are solo even if a party does it

it'll probably share the ones that require quest drops, but it wont happen that often so making a party wont change much
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Average AP kfm looking for naryu sanctum group
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>>172340032
just lfp normal mode dude
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Remember when Naryu Foundry was released and there were less than 5 lobbies posted for it during the first few days? Sanctum will be much worse especially since most people are already in a premade group.
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>>172340475
I'll be posting a bunch of week 1 Sanctum HM lobbies at least. Though I'm not sure how well they'll fill.
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Okay, I just came back to this game and I'm playing a Chi master? Soul Fighter? Whatever, I see that they did something to change the upgrade path system since last I played. Did the UI change or is there something else going on now?
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>>172340475
Every dungeon now will be 6man, so even The Static (tm) will have to carry at least two extra faggots
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>>172341107
There are no more upgrade-able weapons/accessories until you get to 46+. Use weapons/accessories from quest/dungeons/wheels until then.
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>>172341185
you can still run hard mode with 4 players
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>>172341282
I'm at 50. I have the black one that looks like the lycan one? Oathsomething.
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>>172341185
Sanctum at least does not -require- 6 people, beyond DPS needs. With the gear The Static™ has they should be able to easily clear it with 4 if they want to. We won't see dungeons that actually require 6 players beyond DPS needs until 55 content.
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>>172341464
Take out all your Gems (and take off weapon appearance if you were using a custom one). Then Salvage it, you'll get some level of Ivorymoon weapon from it, which is the new weapon tree, and some Gem Hammers.
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>>172341369
Oh my, that IS true.
Fug
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>>172341691
Thank you.
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>>172336210
rapist
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>>172340475
>most people
most of you didnt even touch foundry until a solid month later let alone the 4man version so i highly doubt sanctum has more than two groups ready for hardmode
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>Get perfect ToI RNG
>Go up to 9 floors past my record
>Get to last round
>KFM
>My easiest matchup
>Going to set new floor record by a lot
>When KFM is about 10% my game decides to error
>Log back in and all progress is lost

I want to die
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>>172305778
Got nothing terribly recent, hope this'll do

>>172307575
When I finally decide to make one. I imagine I'd have to make an imgur account, yeah?

>>172322818
I picked my because I like playing tanks in video games. At the time I picked I was playing off of wifi internet and I was worried with playing KFM on bad ping, so I went with BM.
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>>172322818
No archer so I went with a sword, magic is for women and treacherous elves.
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>>172322818
I made a few characters and picked BM because it seemed like more of a middle of the road option. I also liked the animation cancelling on Lightning build, it had the most satisfying sound out of everything I tried.

I'm also a huge edgelord
>>
is there a single male character in this general that isn't a fuckboi?
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>>172346058
Most Gon dudes I would think
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>>172322818
i picked bm because i'm a sucker for sword fighters. no regrets so far besides the pressure of having to keep aggro off of whales.
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Does noxxen still play?
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>>172345052
Welcome to ToI, where they give you hope only to make you suffer more.
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>>172322818
I was told there was a shota race
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>>172322818
i originally rolled bm then warlock came out like a couple days later so i switched and i had fun
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>Still no soiree or swimsuit yun or jin lewds delivered
FUUCKKKKK
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>>172345987
Killtacular
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>>172346594
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>>172346594
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>>172346594
just took this one of a yun for you
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>>172348509
mamma mia
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>>172346509
Don't rope me into the stereotype!
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is it bad that i kinda want to reroll to jin or something cause i don't like the stereotypes of lyn players being really weird?
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DC + JSY "Thicc Lyn" Edition

NA # 872 753
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>>172350853
So this is where you hide your true persona.
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>>172350815
it's good to want to be normal
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>>172350853
>>172351132
Aorrow confirmed biggest slut in /bnsg/. Kind of cute though.
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>>172350853
Give me a minute or two to log on
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>>172351132
>>172351360
What is this nonsense? I appreciate the finer things of life just like the rest of you.

>>172350853
>>172351478
4/6
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>>172351606
>I appreciate the finer things of life
Like taking the futa dick? ;^)
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>>172351606
>finer things in life
>on the fast track to federal prison
sure thing
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>>172351776
>>172351795
Yep, you nerds got me. Here's your (You).

>>172350853
5/6 going in 5minutes.
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>>172350853
Departed as 5.
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>>172350853
okay that's one less
now I need to see the ayyy andthe beaver in swimsuits
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>>172353170
You can work on trying to see the others, friend

I'm gonna continue staring at this one for a little while longer
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>>172353405
you should be helping us bro they hang out withyou and your boyfriend kyopeepee
you must have som spicy pics
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>>172353405
>warlock
>rat
>swimsuit
yep that's a slut
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>>172354172
I'd ERP it.
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>>172353652
yo I'm not gay
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>>172353652
I'm not aorrow, I'm just taking a couple of pics for the road

>>172354172
Sluts can be cute too, anon
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>>172353652
>>172354172
>>172354430
You nerds need to calm down.
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Fucking hate rats these days.
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>>172355347
>these days
they were cancer from launch
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>>172355140
gimme thw other rats you whore
>>
>Spend a day break from BnS to catch up on FFXIV's new story patch.
Damn. Sometimes I forget how shoddily put together BnS is, then I go play other games and get sad. QoL is so much better and not being P2W is amazing. Maybe it's time for a break from BnS until the 12th.
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>>172356019
$0.02 has been deposited into your account
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>>172356019
To be fair, FFXIV needed an entire reboot from the ground up in order to be any good.
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>>172356271
This is true, it was so bad before.
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>>172356271
it didn't need an entire reboot, the music was fine and didn't need replaced
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>>172350815
That's a cuck mentality if that is your reason.
Play whoever you enjoy most.
>>172351162
Fucking normies.
>>
>FMs are so retarded that they dont even know which bracelet to pick
what the fuc
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>>172359213
but it's so obvious tiger is better
>>
>>172359213

what bracelets are there?

t. fm
>>
>queue at 1720 for daily
>get sin that literally can't combo or tech chase at all
>never even touches me once
>should be getting +7 or some shit
>+20

this game is fucking dead
>>
>>172360509
Only the pvp minigame
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>>172360509
RALDEN?
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>>172360509
esports
>>
Hi guys any lobbies soon or should I
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>>172365262
should you what? post one? pub? finish your thoughts?
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Is this true?
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>>172367573
in louisiana
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>>172367573
maybe all that inbreeding explains her face
>>
>>172367573

What's wrong with her faaaaaaaaaaaaace
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>>172367573
fucking maku REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
Someone post lewds
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>>172370640
do you like lyns
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>>172370640
But everyone here only likes lyns and I'm a jin so no thanks
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>>172369957
This thirstlord should be STOPPED
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>>172370760
yes i like your lyn kyopin
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>>172370887
HOW ok
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>>172365262
Lobbies where
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>>172371078
Excellent...
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NA DC Lobby #896253

orbs and scale provided
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>>172371171
now what
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>pug a tomb4
>800 AP guy that fucks up mechanics and does 10k dps leaves after 2 wipes
>group falls apart

every time
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>>172371887
erp?
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>>172370801
Dont let the little furballs take over. Show them what jin are capable of.
That said, i shall be doing my part as a yun.
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>>172372148
how cute are you
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>>172371979
>pugging
I know a lot of us shit on people here in /bnsg/ for various reasons, but I firmly believe that everyone here is more reliable a teammate than the rando shitters that so frequently appear out there.
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>>172372392
cute enough for you to have already sat on my lap
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>>172372508
ask me somewhere else
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>>172370640
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Why is Kyoppi so thirsty, /bnsg/?
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>>172371262
3/6
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>>172372751
he's actually an ant trying to secure water for his entire nest
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>>172346594
I tried
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>>172373039
Setrisssssss
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>>172373039
That outfit.
Not like this...
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>>172373607
I'm not Setris
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What's so great about the holiday soiree?
It's just another outfit, it feels kind of festive and flashy at the same time that's what I like but that's about it.
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>>172371262
Still 3/4 or 3/6
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>>172373747
skintight shiny ass
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>>172346594
Please don't hijack my search for outfit references, might make people include them when they might not be ok with their use.

>>172373747
The tightness and materials - not being as see-through as the spring version makes it nicer to imagine the finest details about someone's figure. Out of all the ingame outfits it's probably my fave but

>holiday exclusive

At least there's mods. Hopefully Ncsoft don't fuck that up.
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>>172374251
>>172374486
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>>172371262
5/6 leaving in 5
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>>172371262
gone.
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>>172374660
Hah sorry. Different perspectives and all that.
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>>172374486
tuplet please go
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>>172375559
But anon aren't you excited for the new patch
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i'm still depressed

can we please watch a movie together by the fireplace or something
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>>172376141
Gen, when are we going to run stuff?
>>
Do Avatarfags here ever actually die, or do they just quit the game and anon-post forever?
>>
>>172376295
do you want a hug
>>
>>172376327
Actually was going to level up back during the anniversary event but then getting coins was so booooring I gave up leveling alts.
>>
>tuplet would have no one to erp with since everyone is at mushin now
>>
http://www.strawpoll.me/12629391
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Yohoho and a new cheevo
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I wish it were the update already, I'm too excited to care about anything else now
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>>172376586
Where is the "who cares" option?
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>>172376767
same
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>>172376483
Last I heard rpers stuck with jiwan although I haven't looked for bns rp in ages anyway. Kinda prefer just asking randoms anyway, it's more exciting being out on the hunt.
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>>172376420
yes i would like to hug a cat or beaver
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>>172376886
I am a cat and I love to hug
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>>172376971
what kind of hugs
>>
https://www.reddit.com/r/bladeandsoul/comments/6236v2/playing_melee_vs_playing_ranged_is_like_playing/
>Playing melee vs playing ranged is like playing two completely different games
Izzat true?
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>>172377184
all hugs
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>>172377248
Yes, because ranged is an afk macro fest,
and melee is actually fun/reactive to boss attacks.
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>>172377341
i love you even though you're always thirsty kyoppi
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>>172377430
thanks ily2 but I'm not thirsty and I could just make some coffee if I was
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>>172377248
Sounds about right, yeah.
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>>172377552
it's not good to drink coffee after sundown
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>>172377894
why not I like it
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>>172378092
because it'll keep you awake all night!
drink me instead
>>
it is time to close the thread
goodbye bnsg
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>>172378215
rip
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Collar and abuse me in dungeons. Gangbang me with complete strangers and leave me behind to get raped by the next party. Make me beg you to take me back while my slutty pussy gets ravaged by the Raven King
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>>172378156
that sounds lewd, also I already stay awake all night
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>>172378525
Calm down Kyoppi
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>>172378591
fine.
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>>172378525
I guess Lusung is kind of hot if you're into hardcore emo guys, but.. Raven King mode, really?
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>>172378761
wait no don't be sad I'm sorry
>>
>>172378761
Fuck you lashes. I love you but why do you gotta do this stupid shit every single time?
>>
>>172377404
>>172377717
but how are melees so "harder" though
>>
>>172379224
bosses actually attack in melee range
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>>172379224
Cause there's far, far many more attacks that hit in melee rather than ranged.
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>>172377404
>your fps suddenly becomes shit and you die
>fun
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>>172379224
Because there's way more attacks that affect melee only that ranged can just stand out of.
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>>172378768
why not
I bet he has serrated third consonant if you get what I mean~
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Is it possible to play SF as a completely caster class?
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>>172380314
Yeah. It's called Force Master.
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>>172380417
Isn't it shit compared to SF?
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WWV Frenzy time! Rankings reset recently, so we're back at the bottom

NA 908921

Neat Mask edition
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>>172380314
Not unless you enjoy doing a near useless level of damage. SFs ranged kit is designed to only be used in short bursts, the class is 90% melee in PvE.
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>>172379224
>>172379315
>>172379901
>>172379621

Aman is a good example of this

All of Aman's aoe attacks have a 15m range. Ranged characters have a 16m range.

Ranged can literally stand out of Aman's danger zone for the entire fight and only have to do the things that're absolutely mandatory, meanwhile melee has a lot more shit to dodge.
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>>172381072
I'm sure you would know how easy Aman is for ranged, you've probably got lots of experience from fighting him.
>>
daily reminder for lyn players that while you may be born gay, being a faggot is a choice
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>>172381583
kys kyoppi
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>>172381746
I may be a faggot but I'm not gay
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>>172381746
help me pray the gay away
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>>172381772
no u
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>>172381835
Not even praying can save you now. You have to ask pic related for help.
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>>172381072

Can we get bosses with more umbrella aoes or something?
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>>172382006
VP lightning build too strong
>>
How is KFM right now?
>>
>>172382006

I don't know why you're so amped up for Pence, he's just a shock jockey.
>>
>>172381583
i don't think you read his post correctly

of course it'll be easier for ranged *compared to melee* like every other boss in bns because they're safe from most of the boss' attacks
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>>172382014
Aman HAS an umbrella aoe
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>>172381072
I like how Aman's AoE that is supposed to affect rangeds only affects melees twice. Twice.
A ranged has to only spend one iframe, while a melee can't get free without at least two.

There are no boss mechanics in this game that affects rangeds only. Not a single one.
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>>172382006
SAAAAAAAAAAVE ME PENCE
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>>172381583
>I'm sure you would know how easy Aman is for ranged
Every boss is easy for ranged, the fuck you're talking about?
>>
>>172382204
I did read his post correctly, Aman will hit you if you think you can stand in one spot the entire fight and I've actually done the fucking fight. I think the argument that melee is hard and ranged is braindead is a stupid one. Neither are particularly hard to play. Bosses have slow and predictable attacks, the tank is going to face the boss away from the rest of the melee dps anyways so the only thing they ever have to dodge is the big and slow windup aoe that's probably the most predictable thing in the boss's moveset. Ranged also get priority over harder mechanics like driving.
>>
listen to kyoppi he knows what hes talking about he played on kr and has lots of experience...probably the most experienced person in /bnsg/ right now
btw did u know he solo'd asura with a broken true pirate weapon?
>>
>>172382207

Wait, so he has a 16m punishment ring or what?

I was thinking of the dokkaebi bosses that had attacks with minimum distances
>>
If you were to pick someone for a party, WL or FM?
>>
>>172382790
it's similar to punishment, hit's 3 times instead of 2
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>>172382830
if no wl in the party already, fm
if there is a wl, fm
>>
post screenshots of your Alts
>>
reminder that this cave troll is the greatest bns player in the history of forever
>>
>>172382720
>I think the argument that melee is hard and ranged is braindead is a stupid one.
But it is though. How hard it is to play a game where you're never in the line of fire? Every boss has a frontal, back and 360 aoe, plus the undodgeable red ones. No melee can 100-0 a boss stationary like a ranged can.

>the tank is going to face the boss away from the rest of the melee dps anyways
and the tank is what

>Ranged also get priority over harder mechanics like driving.
wut
>>
>>172382720
>I think the argument that melee is hard and ranged is braindead is a stupid one

it's not a stupid argument though

ranged isn't automatically braindead nor is melee automatically hardmode but melee IS harder than ranged and that's the simple truth because every boss fight in bns has more attacks/mechanics that affect melees more than ranged.

every. single. one.
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>>172382903
kay
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>>172382903
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Oh look, it's cuckoppi starting arguments in the thread again, then proven wrong and goes away and claims victim in discord
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>>172383258
>No melee can 100-0 a boss stationary like a ranged can
the ranged can't stand in one place the entire fight unless the fight either

>the tank is what
whoever is generating the most threat, not always a melee class

>wut
??????????
why would a melee drive in a party with a ranged player unless that ranged player is the only one and has to root

>>172383517
that's just not true, there are bosses where ranged players have to stand in melee range and there's always the off chance that your party doesn't have a kfm/bm and the range class in your party does the highest damage so they default to tanking
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>>172383803
which discord
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>>172383835
>unless the fight either
unless the fight ends fast*
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>>172383835
>there are bosses where ranged players have to stand in melee range

do tell me where the melees are standing during that time

>and there's always the off chance that your party doesn't have a kfm/bm and the range class in your party does the highest damage so they default to tanking

but in >>172382720 's post he specifically mentions a tank is present in the party so your point is irrelevant
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>>172382903
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>>172384196
if everyone is standing in melee range then everyone has to dodge the same number of attacks from the boss
also you quoted me twice

although this doesn't apply to every boss either and there are bosses where ranged don't have to stand in melee range so they are technically left with an easier time that being said it's only marginally easier and it's why I think the argument is stupid
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>>172382903
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>>172382903
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>>172384612
do you erp?
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>>172382903
>tfw no screenshots yet because alt is brand new
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>>172382903
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>>172384970
I recall a mayor that looked similar to this, how are your wrestling techniques?
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>>172382903
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>>172383835
>that's just not true, there are bosses where ranged players have to stand in melee range
that doesnt help ranged's case, it only further proves that to have any hint of mechanics you need to do it melee

> there's always the off chance that your party doesn't have a kfm/bm and the range class in your party does the highest damage so they default to tanking
absolutely irrelative, anyone can "tank" like that - and if that even happens, the boss isnt held in place, and if the "tank" is ranged, melees even have a harder time, because bosses will spam blinks/jumps that melees have to respond with dashes and iframes, and cant attack, while a ranged can keep pewpewing

>the ranged can't stand in one place the entire fight unless the fight ends fast*
Oh I've seen it happen multiple times, in every dungeon except the big 3 ones and BT
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>>172385204
only the best, im not bad with a lead pipe either.
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>arguing with a guy who thought sins have 3 escapes

just stop
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>>172382903
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>>172385496
thurse fuckin hot
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>>172385435
>thought
>past tense
he still believes this
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>>172382903
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>>172385286
I'll agree with your first point, your second point however I can't agree with. If your ranged is dragging the boss around then they're a shitty tank, any class can hold the boss in place.
>in every dungeon except the big 3 ones and BT
so dated and irrelevant content?
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>>172382903
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if i'm ranged can i not do the crossing in boss 3 bt
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>>172386031

Yes, by being a switcher.
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>>172385956
I wanna stuff this lyn in that jar and carry her home!
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>>172382352
>There are no boss mechanics in this game that affects rangeds only. Not a single one.
Try tanking blue snek in masts as ranged and then shut the fuck up.
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>>172386984
JUST USE VEIL YOU RETARD LOL
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>>172385259
is this the realest kiyopeepee?
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>>172387270
>gunner
>veil
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>>172387352
ye
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>>172387787
this looks like a certain bird
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>>172385736
>so dated and irrelevant content?
It was relevant when they hit, nothing was changed. And also, NF this happens a fucking lot, don't know why I forgot about it.

The only places a ranged class has to move is EC, DT and BT (and DT is an IF case, but its rare)
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>>172386984
>being this bad
>being further than the people that are tanking the red one
lul the fuck you doing there?
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>>172386984
>try tanking
you mean what melee do all the time? you poor thing
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>>172388357
>NF
>the dungeon where ranged are prioritized for doing all the mechanics on the last boss while the tank gets the easiest boss moveset in existence to deal with
ok
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>>172388357
masts snakes flowers and aoe
gloom/masts 2nd boss marks furthest and jumps on them
ec 2nd boss marks furthest and jumps on them
tomb jumps on furthest
hae mujin spins
poh cluster bombs
etc
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This thread needs more pigs.

http://imgur.com/a/v5lm8?
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>>172389000
>>172389075
Still not proving that the ranged can't stand still on those. Put whatever priorities you want, but rangeds can still 100-0 those bosses without moving.
And those don't even affect only rangeds, but literally anyone.
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>>172389000
>>172389075
i dont get what you two are trying to point out. that ranged sometimes has to do things too? it's still mostly melee that gets more things thrown at them

most of those you said yourself the ranged gets targeted once. all the rest of the time its melee handling the boss trying to keep it still without dying. no matter how you look at it ranged is easier

yes ranged get targeted sometimes, but all the rest of the time its melee in harms way. look at MSP turtle. anytime turtle did anything all melee dps dips because they're having to dodge meanwhile ranged can just mindlessly keep hitting since they're safe

if the new dungeon has more ranged targeting then i'll be glad. will be nice to see them actually have to pull their weight for once instead of patting themselves on the back for standing in one spot and mashing the same macro'd key
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>>172389585
generals in BT?
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>>172389708
>anytime turtle did anything

When turtle drops its poison aoe field melee dps tends to die because they will if they stay in it for longer than a couple seconds. It's fucking bullshit
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>>172389758
>>172388357
>The only places a ranged class has to move is EC, DT and BT
>>
the ranged job is to maximize dps as much as possible
the difficulty lies in knowing how to dps and when to dps properly

not every fm does damage like ahoka
yeah there's hold down 2 memes but ahoka's dps shines outside of soulburn too

same thing goes for summoners and warlocks
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>>172390221
And your argument is what? Ranged doesn't have an advantage over melee because they need to learn their class?
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>>172390414
it doesn't even make sense because ranged classes have easier skill rotations than melee lol
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>>172388947
blue snek has mechanic that actively punish being out of her range tho
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>>172390673
skill rotation in order of difficulty
kfm>wl>fm=bd>sf>sin=bm>des=sum
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>>172390908
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>>172390414
>>172390673
>>172390908
t. dumbasses who have shit dps
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>>172390221
what does how much damage they do have to do with the fact that they stand in one spot the entire time
>>172390835
boo hoo
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>>172390673
>ranged classes have easier skill rotations than melee lol
since when
warlocks and summoners have complex rotations
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>>172390960
For asking for clarification on what >>172390221 meant with their post? You can replace the word ranged with melee, ahoka with cavok and it's still true, there is literally no relevance to the argument in the thread because it applies to everyone.
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>>172391096
>summoners have complex rotations
shut the fuck up princess
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>>172390221
A FM rotation is literally LR2/F. Its not even had, and if you use the LRF rotation you dont even need to remember to buff yourself. Ping is the only thing that matters.

Lets not even talk about how FMs also have literally zero conditions to dps, but have a condition to get bonus dmg.
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>>172391053
stop being a bitchboy you fucking melee faggot and fuck my ranged slut already with your massive curved sword~
>>
>>172391096
okay now this HAS to be fucking bait
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>>172390221
Now try to maximize your dps as melee
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>>172336210
unaware hugs ;_;
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>>172391148
>>172391254
no seriously I know a certain kfm who tried warlock and said that it is very complex
and I instantly know when there is summoner who does all his rotation properly and lmbrmbf idiot
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cuckoppi shits up another thread
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>>172382903
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>>172391362
impossible since bosses jump around like toads
>>
Melee DPS Guide

Hello my name is Blade Master Soul Fighter
I hold RMB

Hello my name is Blade Dancer
I macro LMB and F

Hello my name is Destroyer
I spam LMB RMB

Hello my name is Kung fu Master
I mash my face against the keyboard
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>>172390908
>fm
>third
shitty bait desu

What? Remembering to get that free instacast inferno is hard? There's literally nothing else in a FM rotation that isn't the cookie cutter one.
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>>172391413
he always has to make it seem like he's playing hard mode
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>>172382903
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>summoners have complex rotations
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>>172391548
>lmb and f
seems about right
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>>172390835
that applies to anyone, if anyone is oor she'll do it
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>blade and soul babies crying about rotations when their game revolves around 3 buttons

Is everyone in this general a braindead casual?
>>
baseball outfit when
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>>172391675
sure but meleecucks have easier times not being oor
since, y'know
they have to be ir to deal damage lmao
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>>172391213
To be fair to FM's there's a little bit more to it.

LR2 spam, 1 periodically to maintain burn and get instant cast X. Use C/V/Dragonblaze/Dual Dragons at will. For Char Soulburn Hold 2, tap C once during when you get low on focus or run out of burn time.

I'd definitely put it in the bottom ~3 of classes in complexity, but it's not just LR2.
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>>172391629
if you know your rotation so well and its that easy then why do you still do shit damage??
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>>172391554
upkeeping burn/dragonblaze buffs
resetting meteor
maintaining palm ratio
plus some little things that make a big difference
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>>172391809
shut the fuck up ahoka
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>>172391856
because I'm shit isn't that obvious
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>>172391548
FM
>hold 2

>Hello my name is warlock/summoner
>I mash my face against the keyboard
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im streaming cabin in the woods like that one dude told me to yesterday
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>>172391929
yet another meleefag who never actually played wl or sm at proper high level and spouts memes now
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Blade and Soul DPS Guide

Hello my name is Autist
My keyboard has 3 buttons
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The only thing remotely hard for melee in this game is probably tanking Raven King. That's not even very difficult either. Melee deal with more boss attacks than ranged, sure. If the tank is decent, it's probably not many more attacks. They're also given more stuff to deal with those attacks anyways.

Most classes aren't very hard for their basic rotation, the difference between ok and good dps comes down to is the little tiny things you can do. Knowing fights well enough so that you don't waste big dps cooldowns, understanding when phase transitions are coming, and using your skills in a smart order to maximize dps.
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>>172391871
LRF rotation has buff always up. Getting IC inferno to reset meteor is the only thing FM has, as I literally said.

>last two
Those are not even arguments. A "maintaning palm ratio" would be the same as a BM saying fire build is hard because they have to maintain a RMB ratio in-between tabxtab
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>>172392234
Nothing in this game is hard
NOTHING
Casual game trove simulator for whales, that's what this game is
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>>172392029
t. braindead ranged
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>>172392292
>Nothing in this game is hard
>NOTHING
t. some faggot who floormasters 4mans and BT
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Where did the >"Summoner is low skill" meme come from anyways? Their rotations seem moderately complex given the awkward timings between juggling skills which give access to Super Sunflower/Photosynthesis and maintaining Ivy Poison. It's still a 'lolranged no mechanics' class, but given that it seems fairly involved.
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>>172392502
>implying I play NA or EU
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>>172392554
actually good summoners are ALWAYS in melee
simply because of their 4 that gives them dps increase
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>>172392554
shut the fuck up alle
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Quick someone make the next thread with the bnsgindex in the OP before the usual OP does and leaves it out
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>>172392672
you mean 3?
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>>172392774
do it yourself
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>>172392883
no I mean hm seed shroud
summoner that wants to increase their dps needs to counter shit when it's off cd
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>>172392672
that's only bees summoners and nobody here plays bees
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>>172392883
lol retard
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>>172392774
Ok

>>172393028
>>172393028
>>172393028

Index Gloriously

>>172393028
>>172393028
>>172393028
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>>172392554
>maintaining ivy poison
>implying pressing a button every 9 seconds is hard
just what you would expect from a ranged player
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>>172392672
lmao no summoner does that
you never see a single summoner going melee to counter shit
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>>172393084
read what skill does more thoroughly then
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>>172393296
Because you're a 600 AP shitter who plays with shitters
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>>172393296
theres no surprise since around 85% of summoners are shitters
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>>172393440
>implying anyone does that
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>>172393651
>implying anything ever
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