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Cute Nep Edition!

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip

All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip

Tools for deckbuilding and card checking
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
http://sv.bagoum.com

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Banished: >>172129369
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Why does ranking up in master feel so empty?
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>queue up take two
>pick haven
>get 0 banish cards
>1st opponent shadowbab with mordecai
>2nd opponent shadowbab with mordecai

I can't wait for the shadowcaust you smug little fuckers
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Nep needs a nerf more than Daria does.
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Luna in a bikini!
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>>172150372
This is bait.
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>>172150336
>not just winning before turn 8
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>>172150050
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Reminder that ToG is THE official /dragon/ xpac
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>>172150372
(You)
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>>172150372

>>172149553
>has less winrate than daria
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Let's pay respect to our queen and talk about her one last time before her demise in ToG.
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>>172150497
>>172150514
Calm down rowen
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>>172150050
Literally Daria on Steroids.
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>>172149927
>>172149526
I'd sooner run the fucking Merman for the off chance of being able to buff a Goblin/Unica/GOD'S WURD and go face than give one (1) unit the ability to go face while letting the opponent have initiative trading and protect their ward for future followers.
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>the expansion didn't even hit and Shadow is already full of crybabies
Truly amazing.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12597946

http://www.strawpoll.me/12597951
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>>172150554
op little niggress, literal hearthstone card in shadowverse. Goodbye forever fucking faggot
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Luna getting what she deserves!
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>>172150497
>>172150514
>Who's laughing now?
Me.
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>>172150554
This lewd pig sow ain't no queen of mine.
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>>172150648
Feels great
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Daily reminder
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Daily reminder that if your deck has Prince as a win condition, it's a shit deck.
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>>172150431
Luna and her dog.
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>>172150742
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>>172150780
Sugoi.
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>>172150552

>On masters
>Where people are testing new decks
>Face dragon actually got 55.7% winrate

Nah

>>172150634

They are the worst players of all the sv playerbase. Even unga swords has more honor than those shoahs.
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>>172150636
>These fucking polls

If you picked anyone other than Erika for the second one you clearly don't know shit.
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>>172150552
Fake. Troll cant even speak english
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>>172150431
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>>172150742
-fortes-
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reeeee
nep auto wins against Daria
didn't even play Daria that match
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>>172150742
i'm havibg problems beating dragon nowadays.

triple forte is really op and unfair.

cygames should gibe more healing effwcts to dshift
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>>172150825
Good job proving to everyone that you are nothing but a shitposter.
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Please concede
98521
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>>172150829
the stats don't change much between masters, AA and A, you can stop using this shit argument

face dragon has always been better than saharamp, it's just that saharamp does better in tourneys
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>>172150590
>Literally Daria on Steroids.

Is this the latest meme?
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>>172150947
>triple forte is really op and unfair.
Just kill them before t6 or put down wards.

>>172150983
fufufu
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A curious conundrum. Really interesting how among these decks, it was the ones with high win rates were the ones played and winning in last night's tournament, how Nep's 2 good matchups or Nep itself never saw any tournament notoriety. Really gets one's mind-parts moving.

Can /svg/ figure out what phenomenon may have caused this? Can you answer this great esports riddle?
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>>172150605
I never thought of Merman but this guy might be interesting to use, especially in the midrange deck that uses Goblin Princess. I'm gonna test both him and Disciple and see how it goes.
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>>172150992
Thanks Vampy-chan
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>>172151127

>>172121363
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>>172150810
Luna making friends with benefits!
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>>172151183
If d shift wouldn't exist nep would be an amazing deck
Not only because you face more control, but you also face less d shift

But this is albertcraft
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>>172150825
Epic, just epic.
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>>172151183

>Self-reporting figures

Gee I wonder why it does not represent reality well.
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Get fucked, runetumor.
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>>172150742
>Playing sahaluci instead of storm in next expansion when we finally got something to fix our complete shit early game.
Enjoy Forte + urd and genesis.
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>>172151401
but it does

now get a trip so I can filter you
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>>172151183
That Midrange Blood deck really came out of nowhere tho, I don't think I've seen it once.
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>>172151361
meant >>172151093
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>>172151401
Then consult the tournament figures. They're even worse.
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>>172151183
Who even cares about manually reported garbage? Until Cygames publishes numbers, this is all autism tier memes nobody should ever give a shit.

>>172151392
Spotted the newfag.
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>>172150554
Breasts Dominator is my queen
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Will they nerf Yurius?
this card is pretty if i don't have some removal is impossible to win
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>>172150790
Tell them to print a wincon for Haven, then.

(Well they did but turn nine? idk)
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>>172151451
>turn 7-8
>against dshift
Anon, I...
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>>172151435
*unleashes D-shift*
nothing personel Shorte
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>>172151463
>midrange blood
You mean bat blood 2.0? I was wondering why people didn't bring it back when nobody was bothering running Barrage in every deck anymore.
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>>172151183
This image is fake. Our resident shadow slayer and alberdarianigger already proved everything wrong
The nep deck there has 88% winrate and the aggro deck which also runs nep has 96%
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>>172151559
They predicted high level competitive viability better than the retard complaining about Nep.
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Do silver cards have a lower % chance of being drawn or something?

I made a holy mage deck but literally never draw her at any point in matches
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>>172151183
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2017/12/0/

A new report is out by the way, but nothing really changed.

>>172151559
Because it's actually an accurate representation of the meta right now for anything with a sizeable sample.

You just need to be careful with stuff like Silver Bolt or RQ Forest for obvious reasons.
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>>172151778
>They predicted high level competitive viability better than the retard complaining about Nep.
Cygames based their % stuff on it? I just assumed they kept record themselves.
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>>172151460
>but it does

Sure, with no proof at all I will believe you whole-heartedly.

>now get a trip so I can filter you

Name calling is an excellent form of argument and I truly don't have any rebuttal left.
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what to do?
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>>172151371
Luna and her mama Forte.
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>>172151463
What midrange blood?
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>>172151882
>dragon
xD
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YEAH! DADDY GAVE ME 4 WHOLE CUMMIES!
I'M GONNA SQUASH YOU WITH EM!
CUMMIES!
YEAH!
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>>172151183
I mean, aren't all the control decks (except ````````````control'''''''''''''''' sword) horrible in this because of Dshift's usage? It looks like Nep actually has an above average control win rate (fed primarily by Dragon) and Bishop (fed primarily by nep and probably aggro necro)

Control's just shit in general right now because lmaodshift
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>>172151834
>You just need to be careful with stuff like Silver Bolt or RQ Forest for obvious reasons.
This makes sense. But there data is still incomplete and should never be used as more than guidelines since it's unreliable. Even a 1-2% deviance from the really underepresented classes could cause people to be completely off when measuring something's viability. I just refuse to trust it due to human error and because the reporter class distribution probably messes the ratios up.
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>>172151834

>Swordverse with Daria being the most played deck

Now this is the sv I know.

Wait...

>Neftis 50.4%
>Positive winrate

M-muh six millions!

Shut it down!
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>>172151834
>royal in general
what the fuck?
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>>172152025
Look at that smug loli.
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remove maid leader

>b b b but it punishes other commander strategies

NOBODY PLAYS THOSE

REMOVE

MAID LEADER
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>>172152126
bannermeme
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>>172151882
Wind because can just drop big things every turn.
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>>172152038
Dshift wasn't a threat in the tournament either, Dorothy was. Control decks were still shit because they're just shit in general right now.
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>>172151872
>a record of hundreds of thousands of games
>it's not accurate because I said so!
this is your argument.

>>172152073
>50% winrate
wait I thought it was a broken ass deck? huh?

get a trip.
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>>172152310

Fuck it, just kill me.

Don't feel like sticking around in this world.
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>>172151972
She's 14, I swear.
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>l-lord of the flies is b-bad!

Who's laughing now??
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>>172152310
Its a drawing
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>>172152301

Just admit that Nep's effect is broken as fuck. The only thing holding it back is Dshift and Daria.
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>>172152496
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>>172152203
Maid did literally nothing wrong. Albert is the problem, not Maid Leader.
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>>172152531
>Daria

Yeah right. Nep is autowin against Daria.
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>>172151834
>face royal
>midrange royal
>aggro royal
all the same deck
wtf is wrong with nips
now we have to guess what albertcrafts true win rate is
could be anything in the 55-59% area
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Csword bros, floral fencer or Amelia?
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One more round in my tournament's 1st stage and I probably make top 16 iff I win the next one. Wish me luck.
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>>172152496
>Elana haven
try laughing when you face real haven
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>>172152496
>he didn't just Themis bro
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>>172152452
Is for >>172152310
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>>172152496

>s-shadow is bad!

Just look at the 6 millions stats!
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>>172152310
>you're committing perjury if you say you wouldn't hit that
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>>172152070
>Even a 1-2% deviance from the really underepresented classes could cause people to be completely off when measuring something's viability.
That's the point. For popular decks it's a good way to access their viability, the opposite happens for things with a smaller sample size like Atomy Shadow for example.

You just need a working brain, my dude.

>>172152620
You don't need to know its true winrate to know how busted it is.
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>>172152639
>>172152452
Stop posting meme girls
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>>172152559
If dragon gets too out of hand I'm gonna switch from shadow to dragon next expansion
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>>172152628
Sending good vibes.
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>>172152748
Do not reply to him, newfriend.
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>>172152531
If Nep's broken and needs her to be 50% then how does Necro replace her and not drop into sub-45% next expansion?
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>>172152531
Nep's effect is pretty broken, yes. She's only held back by the shit pool of last word followers, only Khawy is worth a damn right now.
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>>172151371
Luna is a player!
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>>172152620
all of them run albert
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>>172152994
It doesn't. It goes to being 6% usage.
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>>172153054

>Lurching corpse
>That 1/1 which summon a lich
>That 1/2 which draws a card
>Not to mention Mord
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>>172152748
>That's the point. For popular decks it's a good way to access their viability, the opposite happens for things with a smaller sample size like Atomy Shadow for example.
That's the thing. This shit's not 100% reliable. Why would you analyze it to begin with? You can get a clear feel for what works and what doesn't from simply playing ladder and playing decks. I don't need a bunch of people to tell me how a craft works after I already did 50-200 games with it. Chances are you already understand on a deeper level these numbers can give you from simply playing.

Again, I understand how they could be useful if you put the time in some instances, but you're still likely to be deceived and that's not worth the time or effort. It's marginally more useful to keep tabs on your own win % so you can focus on self-improvement.
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>>172153076
>>172151371

Arisa is honest and faithful to Losaria , delete this.
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>>172153268
Arisa sleeps around with the other female leaders!
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Does anyone else have that little visual glitch during the loading screen for a match where the text of the random card shown spazzes out for half a second?
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>>172153185
So the original premise, that this expansion is horrible for Shadowcraft, remains uncontested.

I hate nep and would be glad to get a different win condition, but this expansion gives no such thing.
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>>172153471

Is it sex if both partners are female?
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>>172153210
First three are too slow and passive, which just allow the deck to be walked over by aggro. Morde is a huge brick and a do nothing when played, he's just being played because there's no better lategame wincon. For the deck to reach its full potentials, the last word followers have to be good and work on their own as well.
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>>172153508
How do we make Haven useable again?
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>>172153210
Shut up already. Nep is broken. There is no arguing against this. I'm right you're wrong just admit it. Nep needs to be removed and daria doesnt.
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>>172153268
>>172153471
It's not Arisa's fault that everyone who meets her wants a piece!
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>>172153231
You don't go on shadowlog to decide what deck you want to play, you just want to look at the current state meta.
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>>172153508
It's not a glitch it's a featureā„¢
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>>172153614

>the only bad match-up for nep is aggro

Really jingles my twingles.
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>>172153508
Yes. Dont mind that though it does that for the japanese one too
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Hear the dragon odin khawy
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>>172153851
delet
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>>172153851
DELETE
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>>172153851
>Her head makes up for 2/3 of her whole body
>pedofags are actually attracted to this
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wtf Minthe is total fucking garbage
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Does shrine maiden protect followers from Khawy's destroy?

I hate that fucking card
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>>172153809
Aggro and harder wincon like Seraph and DShift, which could be solved with something that's not so fucking slow like Morde.
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>>172154039
It's not a targeted effect, so no, it does not.
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>>172154039
khawy doesn't target so no

>caring about khawy as haven
huh?
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>>172154029

Not really. It means you can only trigger the effect if you have 8 shadows. However, if Minthe is on the board, it won't consume your shadow.
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How does Durandal interact with shit like Astaroth/Azazel?
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>>172154029
>makes all necromancy effects free
>except it doesnt

Shadow is going to be unstoppable next expansion
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>>172153851
Delete yourself.
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>>172154029
Wow. If that's the case then Minthe is complete shit.
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>>172154170
>It means you can only trigger the effect if you have 8 shadows
So she's completely fucking garbage then.
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>>172154135
I play storm and run dance of death over acolyte
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>>172154029
I want to believe this is only a thing with ghostly grasp because of the way its worded.
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>>172154218
A-at least she's nice to look at, unlike that Goliath.
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>>172154218
>Wow. If that's the case then Minthe is complete shit.

You just don't know how to read. You need the amount of shadows available. Minthe just make it so it won't remove your shadows when you play those effects.
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Why is Jeanne so bad?
Her cards are terrible in Shadowverse and she kills 3 (THREE) angels and helps with the scheme to release Bahamut.
I still love Jeanne and want her to be good one day
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>>172154029
>can't even combo with Tyrant unless you have 20 shadows
What's the point, then?
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>>172154238
No, it means Grasp is garbage, because it has a condition built into the card.

Minthe still reduces all Necromancy costs to zero. Grasp and Nightbrand are exceptions because they won't allow you to target things at all without meeting a condition.
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>>172154029
calm your tits, that only applies to deathbrand and grasp because of the wording on the cards

if it applied to everything else she'd be completely useless

>>172154310
use blacked on him
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>>172154029
Are people so dumb they don't understand how the restriction is working there? It's the same with Enhance and cost reductions.
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>>172154356
I undersand how it works, fucking retard. That's why I am saying it sucks.
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>>172154458
And then there's this retard trying to sound smart.
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>Be Nepcraft
>Against Dragon
>He ramps a lot
>Has 10 mana when I have 7
>I drop Khawy on 7 on an empty board
>He drops Bahamut
>...
>Thinking...
>You are a solid fighter!

No wonder Dragon's winrate is so bad
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>>172154495
>>172154383

Minthe still gucci.
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>>172154443
It's still really shitty. You're never going to be able to minthe+grasp the opponent's evolved follower on 5, which is one of the few things that might make her versatile enough to be worth running.

She's A FUCKING DESERT RIDER until turn 7.
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Will these new cards finally make Control Blood competitive?
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>>172154587
>be shadow
>have 1 tier 2 deck at best next patch
4 days
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>>172154029
>bloods bronze card makes you have vengeance at all times
>shadows legendary doesn't even work

>shitposter spends previous 5 threads saying shadow will be t1 next expansion
loving every laugh
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>>172154649
>Caring about the stats of a fucking combo card
It's a cheaper Bloody Mary.
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>>172154568
It has the 8 shadow requirement because it's an enhance-type effect. All other effects will always be 0 shadow even if you don't have the required shadows, this is just an exception case because those override cost reductions. Have you never played Forest?
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>>172154684
B-B-But Khawy
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>>172154684
It's a gold card m8.
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>>172154667
Meh, I have played shadow since only standard packs were available, I don't think i'll change tbqh
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>>172154684
Blood Moon is gold.
>>shitposter spends previous 5 threads saying shadow will be t1 next expansion
I'd also like to point out that he said a few threads ago that he doesn't even play the game and only comes here to shitpost. Which also explains why he wouldn't post his shadow games when people requested him to, that and we would see a big fat zero.
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>>172154649

You can Minthe + squasher the evolved follower on turn 6 though.
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>>172154587
enjoy the calm time before revolution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myg8Q0r8JnQ
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>>172154727
>combo card with no useful <6 mana combos and doesn't help kill the opponent unless you spend 10 mana
lmao

In other words, it's a fucking brick. I'd run fucking Haunt over Minthe.
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>>172154895
You know what else can be played on turn 6?
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>>172154568
don't reply to him, filter and ignore him
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>>172154660
Hard to say when the deck everyone has a raging boner over is, in fact, combo and not control.
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>>172154727
Blood Mary wins you the game. This doesn't.
Mary can burn as a finisher as soon as turn 7-8, while synergizing with a good portion of your deck.
If you take Tyrant in consideration, this can only be used to end the game at turn 10 with another specific card.
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Finally done.
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>>172154895

>Implying that's a strong t6 play

I could also just not play Minthe since trying to make her work is going to be a waste of time.

In fact, why bother playing shadow at all. It's pretty damn clear that the classes people should be playing are Rune and maybe Blood with some occasional Dragon.
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>>172154895
>running a 2/2 to deal 1 damage to the evolved follower that value traded you last turn
May as well just play Dark Conjurer at that point.
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>>172154684
>>shitposter spends previous 5 threads saying shadow will be t1 next expansion

I want to see the exact post of that claim to laugh at them. Can you link me to it?
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>>172154660
we don't know yet, but people seem excited about turn 6 sneks
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Forest players having to evolve Eve manually is one of the sadder things to have to watch.
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>>172152203
Welcome home Sir!
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>>172155189
ctrl f nep
literally every post
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>>172155238
>1 mana leftover
Did he at least bounce Tia back?
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>>172155319

Really? I see no claim of them saying that it would t1. Where is the exact post?
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>>172155357
No, he played Fairy Circle and died to Reaper+Howl next turn.
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>>172155407
just get a trip already

or leave if don't actually play the game
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>>172155436
fugg

I'd feel bad if Tia wasn't such a scumbag card.
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>>172155282
Are you assuming xir gender?
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>>172155407

Those weren't his exact claims.

He was saying that Nepnep is a better Daria.
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>>172154885
i don't think you'll win much
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>>172155602
That and "every new shadow card is broken just like nep" also "ward ignore is so fucking broken!"
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>>172155541

>can't support your own statement with proof so resort to name calling

You shadowshoahs are all the same. Go back to your gas chamber.
>>
What's the verdict on the pre-built decks, they seem pretty tempting due to the legends and considering the first buy is the same cost as 5 packs.

What prebuilts are most worth it?
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>>172155602

>Those weren't his exact claims.

So you are putting words into people's mouth then.
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>>172155843
Forest. Shadow and maybe Blood. The rest are pretty shitty desu.
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>>172155776
i'm not the person you replied to, and why should i care about your opinion on the game if you don't even play it?

i just want you to get a trip so i can filter your shitposts, at least the other namefag had the decency to do that
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>>172155843
Buy 3 of each for the promo cards.
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>>172155948

Not the same guy.

I have no idea why he said it like that.
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>>172155843
Depends on what you want to play.

Shadow gives you some cards for aggro, Blood gives you good cblood tools, Forest is probably the best overall.

But with a new expansion coming so soon you might want to hold on to your cash until you see how things pan out.
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>>172153231
Finally someone who thinks for himself instead of blindly following users input data that is subjected to human errors.
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Yo can I please get a concede
33654
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>Play Nep
>don't draw Nep 5 games in a row
>opponent obviously has a perfect curve
>lose all 5


Nice fucking game
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>>172156010

What did I shitpost about? So now asking for proof is shitpost? At last I truly see.
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>>172156105
You running dindons and cradles?
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>>172156105
B-But Nep is autowin against 90% of the decks used.
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>>172155843

So here's the deal.

Cygames isn't really trying to keep the game balanced. I wouldn't suggest dropping money on it.
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>>172155710
I don't think i'll care much, since i only play occasionally and have around 300 games even if i'm playing since the game came out
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>>172156105
>remember the last time I had to play Nep for dailies
>won 3 in a row without ever drawing Nep

It was a ride.
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>>172156105

>Play nep

Neck yourself.
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>>172156085
Thanks dude
>>
How many people play this game?
Does Steam only make up like 5% of the playerbase or something?
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>>172152812
Nope, got dariaed.
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>>172156105
>play sword
>don't draw albert
Nice fucking game
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>>172156265
This game is pretty balanced.
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>>172156351
You always have at least one Albert. Don't kid yourself.
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>>172156351
literally never happened
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>>172156159
Yes.
I only draw this shit non stop. It's not even funny.
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>>172156397

Is that so?
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>>172156265
>Caring about game balance
Not my problem if you can't enjoy a game for what it is. All games die, either within months or a couple years.
I intend on enjoying all the broken decks, meme cards and expansions for as long as I can. Not like $100 or $200 is going to make any difference in my life.
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>>172156327
A lot
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>>172156475
Come on, it can't be that bad every game.
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>>172155964

Dragon seems worth it too though imo. Also, doesn't sword have two must include legendaries?

>>172156023

I'm not an alternate artwork whore in this yet.

>>172156050

Sword is garbage though and so is Dragon?

Oh and for the Rune one, isn't Merlin OP as fuck?
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>>172156475

You can play them next turn anyway.
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>>172156586

How come it's struggling so much on Steam?
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>>172156105
That's what happen to every deck which relies on 1 card. However, the fun thing about Shadow is that you can still easily reproduce that effect with Khawy and Mord, turn 7-8.
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>>172156592
It is for the last 7 games.
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>>172156475
Khawy on turn 7, 8 and 9 in pretty good my man, sometimes even better than only having his effect trigger, since it stops storm minions from going face
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>>172154189
Any damage > 4 gets reduced to 4. Unclear how this will work with Deepwood Anomaly, but that could possibly get reduced to 4 as well, as opposed to an instakill.
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>>172156651
Real men play it on their phones.
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>>172155843
If you need both legendaries then they're the best way to spend your crystals, even better than 50 crystal daily packs.
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>>172156538
Dshift is manageable with a number of viable decks at least. There's no real tier 0 right now.

>>172156604
>yet.
Hm?

>>172156679
Post history.
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>>172150554
>she started the expansion with a maintenance and people called her shit
>now she's op enough to autowin against daria
RIP top girl, you did well.
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>>172156475

>Getting the best hand to stop aggro
>Can play them next 3 turns to cuck them anyway
>still complain about it

Shadowcaust can't come soon enough.
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>>172156704
They have a shitload of removal. Of course they had Odin. Playing Kamura without Nep is bad.
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>>172156351
>he doesn't play Search Albert
lmfaoing at your deck famalam
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>>172156651
Most of the playerbase are Japanese who play it on their phones.
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>>172150050
Im new as fuck and i just started, once i beat all the story modes where can i find suggested decks for a shitter like me?
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>>172156327
95% is japs playing it on their iphones
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>>172156604
The legendaries in Sword's prebuilt are outshined by Albert.

Forte is the only card in Dragon's prebuilt that really shines.

Merlin is good in Dshift decks, but I don't know if it's worth buying the whole deck just for her.

Haven's deck is probably the worst of the bunch.
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>>172156860
It could be better or worse, depends on the situation. Saved me multiple times from Albert .
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>>172156905
There's also DMM. Steam is unpopular with the nips for some unknown reason.
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>opponent plays directly into salamander breath
>just for 2 extra face damage
>proceeds to lose
God bless you aggrofags
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>>172156860
>Forest
>Odin
Highly doubt it
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>>172150554
F, best girl, it was fun while it lasted. Thanks for carrying me to masters, I love you.
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>>172156851
Who said it was aggro? It's control.


>>172156792
Like that would help.
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>>172156851
>aggro
>turn 6 and still at 20
That's clearly control blood.
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>>172156604
Merlin is used at 2-3 in Dimension Shift and some obscure builds like Conjuring Force and Snowman Path to Purgatory. She's a 1-of at most for Earth Rite, and not used at all in Daria variants.
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>>172156538
Is Daria suppose to be a goddess or something in this image?
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>>172157081

>All those loses

Candies to my eyes. Thanks for making my day.
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>>172157072
>forest
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>>172156885
Probably the best sword deck against dshift.
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>>172157060
Post deck now. I just wanted to verify it was true. Were the 2 Havens storm variant and was Shadow aggro or control/neph?
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>>172156908
http://game-ai.jp
http://sv.bagoum.com/tierlist
It really depends on what legendaries and golds you have right now.

If you want something dirt cheap to build -> Aggro Blood
If you want something semi-cheap -> Tempo Rune (Daria)

New expansion is out in a few days so what's good now will probably change.
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>>172156908
read the pastebin
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>>172157195

She's supposed to be an example of how Cygames is bullshit. While other decks have to adapt, change or outright fall out of favor, Dshift just gets to wait for the meta to swing a certain way and then just slot in the new hot rune cards that are autoinclude in every rune deck and does just fine.
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>>172157284
>another roleplayer joins the general
A lot of people complain that this game is really unpopular, but sometimes I wish it was even less popular so fags like you would be even rarer
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>>172157072
Forest has Lily which is actually worse.
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>>172157124

So me pulling a Daria in my free packs kinda makes needing Merlin less necessary?
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>>172157040
>>172156905
Well yeah, but I mean how come the west doesn't like it more. It's a great game and well made, good animations, English voices, everything.

It shouldn't be as niche as it is on Steam.
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>>172157214
This is how it's going to be next expansion. You can collect them yourself if you just play shadow.
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>>172157486
Stop shitposting.
>>
It's ok if shadow is not that good next expansion.
It just means we're gonna get Khawy 2.0 as compensation in the one after this.
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>>172157619
>namefag
>accuses anyone else of shitposting
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>>172157486
I like how half the thread is already filtered for me.
Eventually all I will see are concede requests and lewd posts.
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>>172157552

Highly doubt it. But if it indeed happens I would be delighted, simply because how the shadowshoahs won't admit that nep is bullshit.
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>>172157552
I doubt Shadow will suck as much as people say next expansion.
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>>172157541
Card games in general are niche.
>>
What Haven deck do I play for quick dailies?

All I have is Seraph and I want to fucking kill myself playing this in unranked where everyone plays triple Odin Dirtrune
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>>172157704
Namefagging is not inherently shitposting. Lurk more, newfag. You should be required to be around at least 1 year before posting so get learned, kid.
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>>172157220
Still CBlood doesn't run Odin.
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>>172157887
Storm is fast and can steal some wins
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>>172157938
I've been around since 2011 :^)
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>>172157887
Just go Storm Haven for fast games.
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>>172157887
Just concede until you run into nep nep
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>>172157865
Nah I don't think so
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>>172157887
I cuck some random aggro with guardian sun
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>>172157887

Just play storm haven. You can at least win one match out of 5 with that and the matches are quick.
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>>172157875
I wouldn't say that. Pokemon,mtg, and yugioh have weekly tournaments all over the world and major tournaments pull thousands of people.
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>>172150050
Is the new expansion free or do i gotta shell out some shekels for it?
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>>172158038
I politely disagree.
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>>172158074
100 gold per pack as usual, no discounts
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>>172156998
>Haven's deck is probably the worst of the bunch.
>Probably

No, it is without question the worst prebuilt.
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>>172158074
Cygames gave everyone 10 free packs the past two expansions. You can also use gold earned through the game towards packs.
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>>172157938
There is no need for hom to use a name all the time,though. It is shitposting in this case.
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>>172157808
For a bullshit deck 6 loses in a row is quite something.
Even the "bullshit" shadow decks are shit.
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>>172158074
10 packs for free and you can buy it with rupees. Same deal as usual.
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>>172158074
If you just do your dailies every day between expansions you can buy 100 packs on release no problem
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>>172158071
>Pokemon,mtg, and yugioh
MtG is the biggest paper TCG and Pokemon/YGO are multi-media franchises though. It's a cornered market IRL and it's still somewhat niche elsewhere outside of HS. There's more games to choose from at least.
>>
>4 more days
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>>172158209

Nah. Just go somewhere else shadowshoah. Nobody will believe your 6 millions after all these shits.
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>>172158085
Arisa's pussy stinks like shit

Elves don't bathe
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>>172157951
Of course they fucking do.
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>>172158085
>elves are always shown as an extremely pure and xenophobic race
>here they're always ultrasluts willing to mate with everyone going as low as orcs
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>win 4 as Vampire
>win 4 ranked
>use aggro and go first 4 straight times

Fastest 110 gold of my life. Thanks Cygames.
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>>172158347
>elves are always shown as a pure race

what fucking world are you living in m8?
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>>172158269
Don't reply to me you dumb faggot.
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>>172158314

Elves bath in fresh river water and they smell like mint.
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>>172157887
I've played majority Haven all the way from Beginner to A2~ish and I got my Seraph banished by Odin probably a grand total of 5~7 times.
It's not anywhere near that bad.
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>>172158308
What the fuck are you even saying?
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>>172158292
3 more days actually
https://shadowverse.com/news/important/news-0082
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>>172158453
Why not?
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>>172158328
They're using matriarch.
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>>172158495
can't wait
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>>172158485
he's shitposting, ignore him until he finally gets a trip
>>
Anyway to see my opponent's score after I've played them?
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>>172158482
Im in unranked.

Im not going to taint my ranked play by being a Haven Player
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>>172158598
>matriach
I can go to the replay and screenshot the Odin but I can't be bothered. They play everything. There isn't one deck. You should get out of B rank already.
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>>172158314
Stop I can only get so erect.
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>>172158451
The real world
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>>172158640
Tainted by what?
Playing the 2nd lowest winrate craft?
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>>172158485
There's an anon or group of discord anons who got together and thought it would be funny if they made a /pol/ spinoff joke based on holocaust denial and how Shadow players were akin to Jews being holocausted by Haven banish effects.

It's a very convoluted and amateurish setup if you ask me, but that is more or less what he is trying to push in a nutshell.
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>>172158485

Just get lost.

>>172158610

You too. No argument but resorting to "use a trip" trope every time you lost.
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>>172158495
RIP /ourguys/

But not really. It's gonna be a much better game mode without the excessively swingy turn 4 plays that weren't remotely even in distribution.
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>Mfw reading this thread.
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>>172158783
Yeah I forgot about all those real life elves.

Elves exist in the 2d world anon, and in that world they are pure sluts the second anything lewd gets near them.
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>>172158640
If anything, if you dont want to taint yourself, dont play Rune instead

While I viewed Haven badly during DE, now it feels like they are keeping Tempo Rune in check to an extent

They also keep DShift in check even if only a little if you use Seraph since it actually enforces a turn 9 on them too
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>>172158459
They also piss, shit and drink from the same water

Eleves and fairies are disgusting

Demons have every STD known to man

Zombies and ghosts all smell like rotten corpse

Witches are pure though
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>>172158945
You and me both, dear Anon.
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>>172158945
Just !#name(Anonymous) it bro.
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>>172158945
If only the mods and jannies would actually do something besides be useless sacks of shit once in a while.
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>>172158945

I'm sorry that I had to complain about Rune instead of posting shadow girls.

Playing against Rune for 50% of your games just makes you pissed and not really feeling like contributing to the thread in a healthy manner.
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>>172157541
Some people froth at the mouth when they see the anime art of the game. Especially more so when they see any girl in skimpy clothing that they would refuse to play it, no matter how good the game can be.
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>>172159150
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>>172159203
I bet it's them who shitpost in the first place.
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>>172159254
fuck off pedoposter
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>>172159203

You gotta admit the namefag is getting more and more creative. I chuckled a bit a while ago.
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She's getting revealed any day now, right? RIGHT?
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>>172159203
This general is dead for now, just leave and come back when maintenence starts.
Maybe we will get another wave of doujin posts and lewd dumps and that might scare away these faggots.
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The Famitsu Cup winner's blood deck is pretty fun. It's weird not playing with any one drops, but the healing makes up for it.
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>>172159347

oh man, I sure hope I don't get vanned for posting this
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>>172159264
You mean pretend to froth at the mouth because they think it somehow makes them progressive by not objectifying cartoon women.

I bet they still watch porn no problems.
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>>172159473
Who is this semen demon?
>>
>>172159556
fuck off
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>>172159254
Just take a break from the game? If I were to shitpost here everytime I get buttfucked by Albert I would get pretty tired really fast.
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>>172158732
Okay A boy
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>>172159651
I'd love to but it's not possible as of this moment.
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>>172159119
Witches are pure SLUTS.
>>
>>172159372
Not him but namefag is my lovely puppet.
>>
>>172159524
"""""mid-range""""
this is just aggro blood with high cost cards and no 1 drops.
how does this goagainst albert?
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>>172159756
Daria has never even seen a penis
>>
>>172159524

It doesn't run 1-drops because it botches the gobu pulls.

I don't know if it was the case where two people come up with the idea or what, but we had an anon who made a midrange blood with 1-drops and vampy as the only 2-drop to explode people with castle. This was pre-nerf of course.

>>172159658

I did take a break, then yesterday I decided to start playing again. I had fun against every other class win or lose. Rune, nah, fuck them. If there was a matchmaking option to omit one class it makes me wonder if Rune players would be stuck doing mirror matches.
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>>172159756
Name one (1) SV girl who's not a slut
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>>172159254
I can vouch for >>172159658 yesterday I tried playing the whole night to grind the last 1k to Masters, but instead both the exhaustion and irritation at my matchups caused a loss streak instead so im worse off

Take a break, sometimes you shouldnt force it. And oh, a good idea is also not to play at the same hours as the nips because they tend to play the cancer Rune decks
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Aww yeah, opened a sweet 9 mana card! And Fafnir too I guess
>>
>>172159862
Easy, Eris
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>>172159862
Daria

She would faint at the sight of a naked man
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>>172159662
Funny, I don't see an A rank in there >>172157081
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>>172159971
What if I'm an Ogler?
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>>172159862
Rowen.
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>>172159862
Easy.
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>>172159862
Luna
Never had contact with anyone other than her parents
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thank you game, I had never gotten lethaled before turn 5 beyond suicide decks.
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>>172159862
Elf Girl Liza
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>>172159919
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>>172160138
implying she wasn't raped by burglar and enjoyed it thoroughly
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>>172160172
>odin as shadow
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>>172160172

Unga sword says hello.
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>>172159848
I used to hate Daria until I had to do the GBF event missions with a budget Daria deck, I actually liked it enough that I crafted a full playset of her just to do my Rune dailies. The deck is pretty fun and also gives me a better idea on how to play against it.
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>>172159795
Hello master.
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>>172160172
>Odin
Fucking heretic
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>>172159862
Eris, she's too young to be slut
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>>172160172
did you pass all 4 turns or what
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>>172159971
does she practice clothed spellboosting?
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>""""""control"""""" forest using his zero cost followers on Forest Archelon, trying to stop my assault
>tfw I have 3 storm followers plus removal in my hand
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>>172160172
I've seen a Aggro Blood deck winning the game on his turn 4 with the overstatted Blood followers.
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>- Improvements to the battle log
>Text will be added to the battle log
Fucking finally
The battle log is a mess
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Who the fuck runs Olivia in an aggro deck? Makes no sense.
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>>172160727
>control forest

Does not exist
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>>172160727
fuck off sword nobody cares
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>>172160091
>has a wife and child
He's used goods.
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>>172160792
Literally 6 free dmg over the course of the next 4 turns :^)
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>>172160792

i ru.n 3 odins in my aggro bats.

is insta win against seraph and neph.
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>>172160792
Some people just put their legos in their not complete decks. Always expect a random Bahamuto.
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>>172160881
Jokes on you, I was playing Blood
:~)
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>>172160920
What does Rowens wife look like?
Is she a dragon?
Is the child a dragon?
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>>172160785
What text are they going to add?
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>>172159816
>more 9 drops than one drops
>""""aggro""""
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>>172160792
meme one-ofs are the best

no one expects them
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>>172161010
ok thats fine
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>>172161070
Its turn 9, finish the match already, foorish gaijin
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>>172160792
I ran 1 in Daria for a bit for kicks.
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When I was a lad I ate four dozen eggs...
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>>172160091
Arisa
>Sorry I'm not looking for a relationship but you can still cum in my tight elven pussy tonight

Isabelle
>Sorry but my heart and genitals belong to Kyle. He was a real man unlike you and a much better lover.

Luna
>It's flattering that you feel this way towards me but I can not be in a relationship with you for I am only 8 years of age and you are a degenerate, sick fuck and I'm calling the cops

Eris
>Sorry but my heart belongs to our lord and savior but you can still fuck me in the ass in the back of the church. Just finish on my ass in not in it, thank you.

>Erika
S-sorry but if the princess even sees me talking to a man she'll have me stripped naked, spanked relentlessly and force me to lick her feet clean again...
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i have met 2 d-shifts with gauntlet healers and 1 daria with timeless witches recently

new meta or they are just memeing? healers saved the first d-shitter and almost saved the second btw, timeless bitches were annoying too but somehow less
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>>172161416
Eh, probably famitsu netdecks
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>>172160590

managed to play a pact, but that would be it
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>>172161416

No I've been seeing them too.

It makes sense when you can pull off turn 7 shifts that lethal. It means that if you can push yourself out of lethal range versus aggro reliably you'd no longer have a bad matchup.
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>>172161416
People run weird gook netdecks like the daria dshift meme deck every now and then.
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>go against nep
>lose
expansion can't come fast enough, playing blood is suffering
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>>172161389
Luna is probably 12-13, she just acts like a child because of mental trauma.
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How or where the fuck do i open card packs? i claimed 10 but it doesn't tell me where the fuck to open them
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>>172161816
>>172161389

http://shadowverse.gamepedia.com/Luna
Luna is 16 years old.
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>>172161832
SHOP -> Buy Packs
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>>172161389
We all know Eris wouldn't refuse the pleasure of being cummed inside of. It's the Savior's greatest gift
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>>172161832
Have you tried buying the packs in the shop?
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>>172161832
Click the buttons, it takes seconds
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>>172161934
wat
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>>172161832
claim the rest > shop > buy the tickets.

tickets are just to open packs
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>>172161816
Good thing Vampy is 1000 years old.
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>>172161934
Bullshit, that wiki is fanmade.
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>>172161934
Really made me think.
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any general t2 tips for a newfag?

im going 2/3 3/2 but feel like im missing something

im just prioritizing 2-3 drops and cards that remove and put bodies on the board at the same time
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>>172161934
That's legal in my country
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>>172150554
Nep wont die any more than dshift ran control decks out of the meta. You'll just be on the receiving end of what you did to dragon for 3 months
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Post underrated waifus
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>>172161934
Is there an actual source besides some Gamepedia that any neckbeard can edit?

I would actually not mind knowing the character's real age
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>>172161934
>Luna is 16
>Eris is 17
What a disgusting little runt.
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> get 200 win with shadowcraft standard pack
> cerberus

based fucking cygames
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>>172162130
>any general t2 tips for a newfag?
Prioritize Sword > Shadow > Dragon when picking classes for consistency. Some people have charts for card tiers you can reference if you're new to the game but they aren't that helpful if you've been playing 2 weeks +
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>Haven has a winning matchup against Shadow
>"Fucking shadowbabs need to stop whining, you have one losing matchup fucking deal with it you stupid pedos"
>Shadow has a winning matchup against Dragon
>"REEEE DELETE KHAWY REEEEEEEEE! GIBE BANISH REEEEEEEE"
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>>172161934
Yeah?
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>>172162130
Follow this guide for picks:
http://imgur.com/a/PhcJy

Be mindful of your curve.
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>>172162189
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>>172162341
No wonder /svg/ loves her. She'd fit right in.
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>>172161070

hopefully what cards are discarded by effects such as dragonewt fist and dragon counsel
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>>172162318
I've never seen Dragonbros complain about anything
Not even their own shitty decks
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>play aggro bats
>meet "tempo" rune
>beating them requires going first AND having near-perfect curve

Fuck. I miss the times when I hoped for Rune matchups to be Daria.
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>>172162189
One of the worst blood cards if not the absolute worst
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>>172161934
ok anons who the hell put in 3000 years old
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>>172162370
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>>172152203
Kill yourself and leave my husbando in peace.
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>>172162491
I kind of hope that I am facing Tempo if I am playing Haven or Dragon if anything

Then I reach for my nonexistent loaded gun when its DShift instead

Please burn all the cancerous Rune
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Will aggro be cucked in 2 days
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>>172162483

dragon players never complain about anything, they just sulk quietly in the corner until the pressure is too much to handle and kill themselves
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>>172162297
Is Eris really 17?

She has the body of a 25 year old woman. Seventeen just doesn't seem right.
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>>172161934
>anon trying to get out of jail
That excuse wont work this time.
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>>172162637
Yes, it was when I played Seraph that I wanted Rune to be "tempo".

Now I actually WANT dickshitters.
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>>172162601
>my husbando
Slut.
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>>172162695
>Is Eris really 17?
there's no confirmation, but eris's VA was joking about being 17 years old in the newest shadowverse channel she's actually 52
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> game inevitably steering into controlcuck faggotry
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Can I get a concede please?
ID 39186
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Concede please

17665
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>>172162865
Never change Kikuko Inoue

She's one of the oldest VAs in the business
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>>172162867
Dshift heaven.
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>>172162885
Thanks Forte
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>>172162956
>>172162885
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>>172162965
>erika and eris VA squirting for every inoue quote
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I don't get the evolution mechanic. Why can sometimes my minions attack right away after evolving and other times I have to wait a turn ?
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>>172162867

It already steered into Runefaggotry now and before that was Havenfaggotry.

It literally cannot get any worse.
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>>172163175
It activates when someone tries to harm you
Only evolve when you're in danger
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>>172154359
2 dmg is too low
+2hp is too low
A 5/5 body isn't really anything at that point of the game
You can't make a board for the hp to matter most of the time
It's difficult to get a target immune out of trade range and like 65% of matchups, they have a way to kill it regardless
8pp is too slow
Because she's 8pp instead of 7 or 6 there's a lot less you can play with her so as a turn x do-nothing, there's better choices if you wanted to clear, if you wanted to buff, or if you wanted more bodies on the board. Don't get me wrong, jeanne has her moments against people that have a poor matchup against you, but she'll never be an all-star.

>>172163175
Stop clicking through the tutorial without reading and you'd know
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>>172163175
storm can make. you attack the enemy leader and followers
rush can make you attak followers
evolve gives rush

you can't attak 1 follower if there's another follower with ward
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>>172162965
She doesn't look that bad for being an old lady.
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>>172162865
she joked about being 17 y/o because she voices 17 y/o character Eris. Dumb shadowbabs
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>>172162965
>53 years old

It has to be all that radiation they've been absorbing
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>>172162965
Inoue is the reason I like Eris so much. Her voice is pure sex.

https://youtu.be/OIT9UrFpcEY?t=12m17s

>>172163356
Can you stop being autistic for just 1 minute?
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>4 master ranked dshifters in a row
AHAHA HAHAHAHA THANKS FOR THE FREE WINS
KEEP UP THAT PRACTICE FOR THE NEW CONTROL META
AHAHAHHA
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>nerf roach because it was around 57% winrate
>ignore sword even though it's 56% or so
Really makes you think.
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>>172163440
>Can you stop being autistic for just 1 minute?
That's not how autism works anon...
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48228

Can I get a concede, my dudes?
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>>172155571
Treant and elder treant are my forestfu's
I love playing 2 treants under a wolf'd gigas
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>>172163613
>57%
it was 52%
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>>172163645
Fine, you win.
>>
New poll, please vote, it's important:

http://www.strawpoll.me/12614795
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>>172163807
>no neph
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>>172155843
First off, never, ever buy packs at full cost. Only do the 50 crystal daily deal. Second, the prebuilts are 18 packs of (questionable jeanne-tier) value. If you're starting out and want to play x now, they're wildly more effective than just spitting into the gacha hoping for what you want. Especially if it's not a standard card like Tia.
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>3 forest daily missions
>closest thing I have to a forest deck is a poverty roach deck with 2 roaches and no legos
Jesus, the games are always so close.
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>>172163807
Give me a blowjob
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>>172163807
>cant vote multiple

Shit poll desu
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>>172163807
>>172163912


Please use "something else" for neptits, I'm retarded.
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>>172163807
>Rune has 3 decks represented
Truly the most cancerous craft by sheer numbers
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>>172156908
Aggro blood is 5 golds for 3 vania and 2-3 vampire fortress
Cursed storm royal is 1-2 golds. Shadowed is really only there for if you get stalled you can clear and re-cloak. Banner memes is pretty cheap as is aggro royal using fangblades for a closer.
OTK disconewt dragon's 5-6 golds but the 3 breaths are core dragon and the 3 altered fate are core ptp neutralcraft
Aggro forest can drive on 3 gold roaches
Storm haven is 5 golds for 3 garuda and 1 valhallan
Tempo spellboost rune can get by with just 3 Levi's
Budget aggro shadow has 0 golds and tries to close out with cursed soldier+board on t7

Neutralcraft's really just the 2 gold wind gods. The 2 uriel are for spear consistency which is important but you'll live for a week to get the vials for them
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>>172163959
Nah, at least Elf, Dragon, Sword and Blood packs are good value if anything
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>>172163613
>waahh waaah why aren't they nerfing shit less than a week before the new expansion drops
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>this game will officially die in 4 days from now

Hold me guys.
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>>172163807
Anything at all that features Floral Fencer.

I find it harder to be mad at a legendary being bullshit, because they're supposed to be. Basic silvers being virtually omnipotent pisses me off.
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Poor dude with a nep deck gained a loss on his AA trials. Hope I wasn't responsible for having him do them again
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>>172164115
It also hold a 52% majority.
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>>172164214

It's more like the game will finally be released from its pain after suffering a grotesque stab wound.

I, for one, cannot wait to spend 7k on packs only to use vials on RoB rune stuff anyway since that's the only craft that's worth playing.
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>>172160172
We do our best
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>>172163807
It doesn't matter what you poll regarding this topic since most people here play control. Albert Sword and Dshift will probably be top for that reason alone.

Low intelligence pollposter.
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>>172164374
svg also holds a 60% sword player majority
but that won't skewer results ;))
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>>172163807
>people hate dshift
>don't hate roach
is this because they want to fuck arisa? both are equally as cancerous.
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Double Agent
>>
Nothing is more raging than losing because of disconnection.

I was about to win, just had to click.
Want to ragequit the game just for that.
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>>172164486

I considered voting Daria Rune, but Dshift is a deck that will have been relevant for an entire year.
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>>172164521
Roach is bad but you can actually fight back.

Dshit is "play aggro/midsword or lose".

>>172164514
>svg also holds a 60% sword player majority
Isn't it more shadow and dragon?
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>>172164521
Its because you can win vs and outplay roach
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>>172164521
since gobu nerf roach is inconsistent enough to be irrelevant. still can pull off bs turns but doesnt win on turn 7/8 every single game
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>>172164623
I wonder just how relevant it will be next expansion. I wouldn't imagine dragon dominance will hurt it much.
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>>172164610
If it makes you feel better, you got drophacked. Nobody knows how the nips do it but they do it like a motherfucker always right when you're about to win or you turn the tables.
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>>172164521
because unlike isaslut Arisa is pure
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>>172164887
>elf
>pure
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>>172164825

They didn't release hand destruction, they didn't introduce instants.

They'll still eat control all day every day.
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>>172164521
Something about Isabelle's face in game annoys me, and I don't know why.
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>>172164436
Released from what? Dshift and midrange sword will keep dominating, shadow is dead and everything else is a meme.
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>>172164990
just concentrate at her breasts
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>>172163807
>Seraph that low
I'm happy.
fuck Dshift though
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Can we agree that Shadowverse in it's current state is pretty shitty?
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>>172164887
Not with that sinful body.
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>>172164887
She's so cute.
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>>172165047

Released from it's pain because it died anon.

If the solution to enjoying the game is not run into Rune which sees a lot of play, then the game is mortally wounded so to speak.
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>>172165059
It's even worse.
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>>172165118
Topdeck tins are always the most disgusting.

>>172165131
Easily and it's only going to get worse.
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>>172164972
>They'll still eat control all day every day.
What about """""control"""""" forest with their albert and some roaches or tias? They can deal enough damage early on with tokens and fall back on roach.
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>>172165131

I tried saying that, and telling new players to not bother.

Apparently that made me a /hsg/ refugee.
>>
>just get them to use their last evolve before t9
>rush
>storm
>rush
thanks cygames
>>
>>172165131
Yeah, if you've never played any other card game in your life.
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>>172165306
control forest and tia/roach don't mix well.

might as well just run wolfbolt at that point, do you guys even make your own decks or what?
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>>172165131
Not really? But we'll see what ToG brings.
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>>172165131
No, because I get to play against a large variety of matchups on the ladder without any of them being too far imbalanced towards once side.
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>>172165059
I'd rather not. Erasmus is love, Erasmus is life.
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>>172165431
We're talking next expansion dawg, not now. Control forest literally cannot exist and work in this meta reliably.
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>>172165131
Better than the DE meta by far. I stopped playing entirely in the last month of DE, I still don't mind doing dailies at the end of RoB. Will have to see how ToG shakes things up though.
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>>172165131
What is shitty about it? The only thing I can think of is DShift.
All classes are viable. Deck winrates are mostly balanced. There is plenty of viariety on ladder.
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>>172165131
DE was much worse.

Also end-of-season metas are always cancer.
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>control cucks theorycrafting new decks when there's nothing they can do about dshift

for what purpose?
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>>172165517
no shit. you have to devote half your deck to roach though and that means you can't run all the good control tools they're printing though.

i've actually played cforest in this meta and the tia/roach package is something that won't mesh well with the new cards they're printing.
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>>172164312
>floral fencer
>not Khawy
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>>172165158
Its your sinful mind that taints her body
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>>172165517

So, what new amazing tools did forest get that has one of the following.

>Storm that works alongside with roach
>Targeting immunity
>Ambush
>Protection from damage
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>>172165693
>i've actually played cforest in this meta
Eh? How does that work? I've been able to run roach and tia in pretty much all my forest decks, even PtP(not tia 3 though). Did you win more than you lost?
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>>172165770
wardbert
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What if
>yurius but deals damage when the opponent plays spells
neutral
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>>172165902

You mean the 10 cost enhance?

The one where it's just a ward if not enhanced?
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>>172165131
No. But the nature of all things is to get shittier with time.
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>>172165131
It is.

DE was also in that sort of state though, but it had more diversity. And by diversity I mean different sorts of cancer flying around. Midsword, PtP forest, dshift and elanaseraph. Over and over again.

But I guess back then the game had more hype so people had stimulus to try harder. Now it's just whatever.
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>>172163807
Update: 45 votes in, it's DShift then Albert then Daria.
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>play aggro lose to Elana
>play control lose to Dshift
>play combo lose to Sword

They really improved the graphics in rock paper scissors.
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>>172165951
Pointless unless it had spell immunity.
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>>172165754
Sure.
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>>172165958
tarzan unga
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>>172165951

>kill it with windblast
>kill it with Levi

Rune is countered. Yay. Now we just have to wait another 3 months.
>>
>>172165951
Dshift would just eat the 1 damage to wind blast it before they blow their load.
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>>172165951
cute anti dshit tech but needs high HP or
>dies to wind blast
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>>172166083

yea, anything that is 10 cost enhance is going to be useless.
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>>172166173
give ambush
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>>172166173
>>172166093
>>172166098
How can wind blast kill it if it has 3hp and it was dropped on turn 2?
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>>172166227
i guess ur right
>>
>new expansion
>doesn't matter because control will still lose to dshift
>midrage is still garbage for everything but sword
>aggro is getting less tools than before
>the meta will remain the same as it is

Good thing I reached masters, now I can just drop the game in peace.
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>>172165131
Its not great, but its the best thing at the moment. Ungoro vs ToG will be interesting.
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>>172166317
You can still do dailies.
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>>172165845
i went 9-1 with it last time i used it. obviously part of that is people mulliganing wrong and making huge misplays thinking i'm some roach shitter but i can't argue with the results.
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>>172166293

By playing spells on curve.

>>172166317

Agreed, I wonder, is it even worth it to hand out our accounts if the players getting are just have to put with the same bullshit we did. It bothers me that my queen vampire sleeves won't see use.
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>>172166259
That's actually not a bad idea

0/6 ambush for 3 would cuck dshit pretty hard
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>>172166065
Roach is cute desu Id let them fuck me too

>you will never cumswap roachcum with Arisa

Just
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>>172166293
Turn 1 Insight
Turn 2 whatever
Turn 3 kill him

Rune takes 1 or 2 damage, oh no.
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Finally found a way to get rid of the shitposter forever, feelsgoodman
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>>172166317
I also reached masters just in time, but I'll probably have to say goodbyes the the deck that carried me there, Nep. I haven't played much since I landed here, either, there's no goal for me anymore. I hope there's still some fun to be had with Shadow or I might just drop the game for the entire xpac.
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I love cerberus!
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>>172166293
Given how resolve order works in this game, Kaleidoscope would get rid of it and the Rune player wouldn't take any damage.
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>mfw I play haven and get beaten by phantom howl shadow after board wiping and banishing everything

I'd say that I'm glad to know the greatest factor in the outcome of this match was """""skill""""", but then I remembered that haven is supposed to counter shadow. So which is it shadowbabs?
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>>172166317
>doesn't matter because control will still lose to dshift
>complaining control lose to combo
>midrange is still garbage for everything but sword
>doesn't see the potential with the new blood cards and beetle warrior
>aggro is getting less tools than before
aggro babby confirmed
back to hearthstone with ya
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>>172166324
Ungoro looks like its just gonna be another aggro-fest. Have you seen the fucking cards Druid and Hunter are getting?
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>>172166590
>Doom and Gloom shitposts
>Oh it's just pedocraft shitters crying as usual
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Left is DE, right is RoB.

Which one did you like the most, /svg/?
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>>172166759
nexrt expansion without shadowbbs
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>>172166704
People overexaggerate the Haven matchup. It pretty much comes down to how many heals and wards you have to prevent getting dunked on by the howl combo.
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>>172166759
WRs are pretty balanced in RoB, except for Dragon. DE you played one of the big 3 or fucked off.
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>>172166575
>>172159158
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>>172166596
Cerb leader when? I need my waifu
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>>172166704
haven vs aggro shadow right now is something like 60/40 if I'm not mistaken

it's their best shot at ever beating haven
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>>172166759
I main Haven, try to guess.
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>>172162701
3000 years
3x as legal as a 1000 y.o. man!
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>>172166759
Those colors are fucking stupid. Every class already has a color in-game.
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>>172151570
cant live anymore knowing that i will never lick her feet
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>>172166759
swordpets will defend this
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>>172165462
>>172165636
>variety
>aggro cancer
Pick one.
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>>172166993
you like rob better because your craft isn't full of bandwagoners anymore, did I get it right?
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>>172166759
RoB, easily.
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>>172166704
Haven is a bad matchup for aggro shadow in my experience. A howl+Cerb or reaper combo does nothing if you have wards, heals or storm followers.
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>>172166751
Saw the Hunter quest, not Druid. I'll be pissed if theyre continuing to make Druid aggressive when the ramp class literally has no good cards to ramp towards. Jades still make the game depressing though. Not sure I can go back as long as that shits legal.
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>>172166724
>aggro player
>complaining about dshift

huh?
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>>172166993
Honestly I prefer Haven now than back in DE, but that's because I find Seraph way more enjoyable than Elana decks.
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>>172167015
What is the lore behind this semen demon
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>>172167096
>1 blood aggro deck (mediocre)
>1 shadow aggro deck (mediocre)
Damn look at all this AGGRO CANCER

Even if we added Albert midrange which a retard like you considers to be aggro as well (which it's not), that's still just 3 decks
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There's nothing cancerous about aggro, they keep the OTK and combo bullies at bay.

t. Control player
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>>172166759
>there are people who will say that RoB was bad
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>>172161730
i didn't play aggro though, otk roach and nep
gauntlet healers and being first meant that i could do a 15 damage combo but they healed some points to 17
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>>172166759

Rob because fuck controlcucks

I have no time or patience to deal with 15+ turn games
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>>172167245
I prefer playing against unga over dcucks everyday
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>>172167313
>otk roach and nep
consider killing yourself, scumbag.
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>>172167112
Half right.

What I like about RoB is that people mulligan for Odin and then I play Sun.

I miss Elana mirror duels, though.
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>>172167224
there was once an alchemist that wanted to be a little girl

he achieved his dream, the end
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>>172167224
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Concede?
48652
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>>172167236
>Damn look at all this AGGRO CANCER
I'm looking at it every day in masters.
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>not having max friends
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So, only Luna and Eris are of not legal age by US standards, right? Because vampy is 2000 year old
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>>172167245
That's a dumb logic. Control simply needs more tools to deal with Combo decks, binary match-up should not be a thing.
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>>172167431
Wait a second I was lied to? I thought I'd become a wizard at age 30 not an immortal little girl
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>>172167363
Maybe I should also do alchemy?
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>>172167236
It's funny because the only way for midrange to survive this game is to just use aggressive as fuck cards. The only reason you say it's not an aggro deck is because Albert is so fucking broken that it can win you the game when other Aggro decks have run out of steam.
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>>172167456
Thank you Mama!
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>>172167096
Just in the past few days in AA I've played against
>CSword
>Midsword
>old Aggro Sword that's actually based on Commander/Officer interactions
>Ramp Dragon
>Seraph
>Elana
>Storm Haven
>Guardian Sun Haven
>Aggro Blood
>Midrange Blood
>CBlood
>DShift
>Dirt
>Daria
>some weird homebrew Forest deck
>Nep
>Aggro Shadow
So I'll pick variety.
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>>172167236
>the deck that does its best in storming your opponent's face
>not aggro

Hello, swordfag
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>>172167504
why
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>>172167637
yes, and please share your finding with me
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Fellow D.shift mongs, would you play rune blade summoner or flame destroyer?
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>aggrofags upset their time is up come WoG
aggrofags out
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>>172167654
>70% aggo
Well anon, looks like you proved me wrong.
I'm sorry.
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>>172167658
>9pp wincon
>aggro
Hello, retard with 0 TCG/CCG experience
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>>172167558
16 is legal in a few of states i believe

>>172167632
you should live to 1000 first
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Should i?
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>>172167732
Not, I cannot wait for tog so I can play Doorblade Warrior, Goblin Zombie and Ebon Reaper. All good quality shadow cards.
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>>172166759
First vs. Second is so much more balanced now, my god.
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>>172167732
destroyer. i've had games where i've bricked so hard i had 3 destroyers in my bottom 4 cards and the summoners would do nothing there.
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>>172167431
So what's her current character like? Did she stop being an alchemist and just do slice of life loli things all day?
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>>172167806
1 single amulet that lasts only 2 turns and does not even stop him from aggroing will not make the aggro boogeyman go away
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>>172167848
>actually defending a cheaper imp lancer that has late game potential

Whoa

Woe
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>>172167840
Good to know you're just a shitposter.
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>>172164825
Forte and Genesis will always be scary to DS. If a lot of people stop playing aggro next expansion then Storm Ramp will be relevant again instead of neutral memes.
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>>172167865
It's guaranteed that whatever you buy will have a lower expected value than ToG unless you hate every card in it.
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>>172167848
>implying their gameplan is to wait until t9 to kill you
It's fucking aggro that has a flexible card that gives them lategame.
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>>172167879
>Ebon Reaper
play road to hell or w/e it's named instead if you want bane

>>172167941
she is an alchemist and lives an ordinary alchemist life i think
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>>172168037
>disgusing aggro decks as "midrange"
>pretending all those decks are evenly distributed across the ladder
No anon, you are the shitposter.
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>>172168079
Was there any reason she chose to become a girl and not stay a boy?
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>>172168071
you're arguing with someone who has legitimate autism, just let him have his semantics.
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This thread is cancer.
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>>172167946
it helps, and so do all the wards and healing tools crafts are getting
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>>172168079
Highway to Hell is not a follower that gives Bane to another follower. Bane is crucial in next meta to combat Aegis Just ignore this shitposting because apparently these are good cards
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>>172167224
Kid genius with a illness that was killing him decides to move his soul into a immortal body, proceeds to become the father of alchemy and beat off a army of ayy lmaos solo, only interests in life are SCIENCE and being cute. Can't kill him since he'll just move to another body and proceed to murder you.
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>>172168243

It's a good reflection of the meta.

It happened when I was in /dng/ too, when the game just sucks so hard.
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Ok if everything that win by dealing damage is aggro.

there's only 1 way to be honorous in this game.
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>>172168220
i don't play granblue but afaik he was just obsessed with cuteness and made his body into an object of it. i doubt he even identifies as a girl

ask on their general
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>>172168387
GLORY BE
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>>172168387
Haven is called chemocraft for a reason
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>>172168387
ERIS IS CUTE
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>>172167941
Part acting cute, part being arrogant, part mad scientist and then there's the whole "I don't care if you shoot me I have infinite bodies to switch to" thing.
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>>172168365
The meta is honestly fine right now and it's obsolete in two days anyway. It's a weird time to shit up the general complaining.
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who did this?
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>>172168387
Now swordbab take note, this is how you do a honest craft
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You must give me one (1) reason why you play Shadowverse instead of Gwent.
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>>172168501
>>172168486
>>172168467
i'm flattered
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>>172168467

ERIS NO

SKULLFANE IS A MEME CARD
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>>172168636
me
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>>172168387
The problem isn't really aggro, it's that all these "aggro" decks are basically burn in MTG, except you can't block creatures except with ward, and you can't threaten them enough to force them to waste creatures on your own stuff. There is no legitimate counterplay besides Elana.
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>>172168595
>It's a weird time to shit up the general complaining.
it's the best time to shitpost since it's pre-expansion and people want to complain about the new cards

most predictions will probably be wrong anyway
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>>172168673
>not just waiting for the opponent to deck out
its like you dont even want to give them access to everything in their deck and still beat them
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>>172168679
Shadowverse allows me to craft 3 constructed decks on the go?
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someone can explain me how purgatory works?

Played against a runecraft, she stalled over 15 turns by only using spells, and snowmans, and at the end, she dropped the 2 purgatory amulet, and finish me.

How is shadow calculated?
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>>172168684
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>>172168865
Each card that goes into the "graveyard" counts as 1 shadow
It's the little skull icon next to how many cards a person has in their deck/hand
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>>172168865
You get shadows when a creature dies, or when anything would typically go to the graveyard in other games. Some effects also just give you shadows.
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I love reapers!
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>>172168679
Gwent doesn't seem that fun and I've heard it's pretty expensive. If I was going to try another CCG it would probably be Eternal.
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>>172168924

> at 3hp
> enemy topdecks demonic strike

worst feel
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Bahamut?

More like Bahamoot.
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>>172168679
Gwent looks boring aestethically, i wouldn't be able to have fun.
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>>172168865
When something on your board is destroyed, you play a spell, or you discard a card from your hand, you get a Shadow. There's a Skull counter next to each player that tells you have many Shadows he has.
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>>172168940
>Not loving Cerberus
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>>172168679
Witcher sucks and the fanbase is cancer.
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>>172168679
I've played enough on my 250 hour Witcher 3 playthrough.
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>>172168798
I had someone do this to me when I was new to the game.

The man just waited for both of us to deck out and removed all my shit every turn.
Eventually he played Satan to prevent drawing the death card and passed so I drew it first.
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>>172168940
>reapers surviving turns

What has he been doing?
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>>172168679
I don't care about the witcher
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>>172168679
Gwent doesn't give me a billion packs to start with nor does it let me build meta stuff for cheap.
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>>172168679
I'm not a fan of the artstyle. Or the witcher.
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>>172168679
ive been in the beta since the first wave but there was a bug that prevented me from opening kegs so i lost interest in it.
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>>172168679
It doesn't have Cerberus
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>>172168708
>There is no legitimate counterplay besides Elana.
Congrats on making the dumbest post in one of the stupidest threads we've ever had
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>>172169182
playing 1/1 knights
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>>172169182
He missed 1 and 2, then played TSUKKOME into Fencer into Aurelia into Aurelia into Frontguard. He evolve traded the first one but when you get all 3 shadows nothing stops the rape train short of a board wipe.
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>>172169126
Cerberus is the CUTEST.
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>>172164460
You call that a meme?
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>>172169434
So he bricked. I suppose that's a given.
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>>172168940
They're fun.
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>>172169487
That's a big beast dominator
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>no expansion until wednesday
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>>172169126
>>172169438
>Shadow is excited to have a 7 mana 3/3 that gives them 4 damage in burn
>Runecraft gets a 2 mana 2/2 that gives them 3 damage in burn

I can't even remember the last time I saw a deck actually bother using Merlin over Levy. Aggro will be the meta as long as that cancerous faggot exists.
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>>172169438
I wanna ram it into Cerberus doggy style while stimulating her clit and breasts.
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>>172168679
I don't like non anime art, and western's voice suck.
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>>172169394
Not an argument.
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>>172169530
That's what happens when you play Bahamut in your aggro deck.
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>>172168832
Allows an app? Fair enough.
>>172168989
You get two packs daily, if you play the game for around hour and a half daily. More, if you choose to play more. One of the cheaper card games.
>>172169143
You suck.
>>172169164
I hardly played Gwent at all during my Witcher 3 playthrough. A lot of changed for the standalone version, much more engaging.
>>172169218
Well I'm sure he doesn't care much for you either.
>>172169286
I have heard that before, rather generous of the developers.
>>172169301
>>172169049
Hairy and dirty old men old don't appeal to you? Unwashed masses, you two.
>>172169368
Seems a small reason to quit for good.
>>172169369
I dinnae what that even is.

In any case, thank you for your responses. I'll be on my way now. Take care.
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>>172169438

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuUlMDvUnzc
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cerb leader when?
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>>172169589
>Shadow is excited to have a 7 mana 3/3 that gives them 4 damage in burn
>Runecraft gets a 2 mana 2/2 that gives them 3 damage in burn

3 mana then, also 3 mana and an evo point while cerb has it as a fanfare; also cerb herself brings 3 shadows
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Enough for the expansion?
I have another 1400 lying around as achievements.
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>>172169589

The kicker about this?

Cerberus is a good shadow card because she gives out 3 shadows total.

If Rune were to have Cerberus as a card. In spite of the fact that she's 2 spellboosts for rune, she wouldn't be ran because you can spam removal while playing her.
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>>172169829
Seems legit, my man.
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>>172169589
>7PP 3/3

Also 3 shadow generated. Shadow has to make do with this because their other cards like Ebon Reaper is oh so broken.
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>>172169803
Crimson Flame refunds itself by spellboosting your entire hand. Shadows at best count as +1 damage in the form of a ghost or .5 damage in the form of a mummy.
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>>172169589
>I can't even remember the last time I saw a deck actually bother using Merlin over Levy
Dshit
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>>172169679
>he's actually trying to defend himself
The counterplay to aggro, aside from wards healing and boardclears, is to attack and kill their followers. You have evolution points to help you do this. It makes literally no sense to say there's "no counterplay against aggro" because virtually everything in the game interacts with what they're trying to do.
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>>172169767
Soon friend. Soon.
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>>172169965
they run 3 levi and 2 merlin usually
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>>172169829
Here's the reply you so badly crave
>>
>>172169965
Every dshift deck runs 3 Levy and <3 Merlin doesn't it?
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>>172169589
Cerberus is Shadow's most prized card. She gives you 3 shadows in the form of a body and 2 extremely versatile spells.

If anyone has been carrying Shadow on their back is her.
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>>172169829
So much money!
That's like 80 days of dailies
How can you resist spending rupies for 80 days+
>>
>>172169942
Yeah, I see the problem here. The issue is that a single spellboost in rune is worth more than the value of a single shadow in shadow. But on the other hand, I think the problem with shadow is that it's really punishing to play against. When you look at a deck like phantom howl you see that it's not great to play against an aggro deck that rewards them for their stuff getting killed by giving them burst damage. Shadow can move more into the midrange or control game instead.
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>>172170091

when you have a functional deck for each class there's not much else to spend rupies on
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>>172170081
shes also fucking hot
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>>172170070
>>172169858
Are you so autistic as to imply that is photoshopped ot something?

>>172170091
By having most of the stuff I needed from Bahamut early and then just saving the rest.
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who /ready/ here
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>>172170081

Yet Shadow would probably be better off with Levi.

He's two shadows and he syncs with Dark Conjurer.

I really hate bashing on dogwife, but Levi is a poorly thought out card in a poorly thought out craft.
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>>172170243
I'm telling you it's a solid number, dude.
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>>172170280
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>>172170243
No, we're saying that you're obviously just here for attention with your
>look at my ludicrously high amount of money, could it be enough uguu~?
It's ten fucking thousand. Other people are lucky to even have like, 4k stocked up.
You know it's a lot, you just want attention.
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>>172170043
And how often do those strategies win the game? You board control, so what? They already damaged you. It's like people that said that guardian sun is the counter to roach. Spoiler alert: the wards in this game are generally pretty bad, and often exist only to prevent damage, not actually trade favorably. Elana does well against sword because they don't actually trade. Every follower they play will probably survive its first attack due to buffs from Elana, and the storm damage you took becomes irrelevant too due to the heals. Elana has the full package that the other decks don't.
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>>172170225
You know it.
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Is this enough for the expansion? :^)
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4 days for the expansion boys
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>>172170519
Those puppies are 2big
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>>172170280
Would have had more but the urge to pull is too great.
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>>172170314
Sorry.

>>172170386
I just haven't done the math what's a reasonable amount of packs to buy to get most of the important shit and then craft the rest.

I think I have opened at least 100 Bahamut packs to mostly fill my collection, but I haven't really kept track so I'm not sure.

Not everything is a jewish conspiracy, you know.
>>
>>172170304
Hey, lighten up. At least she got her sister to help.

>goblin stats
>that random 2 damage doesn't even go face like support cannon
>cannot even buff herself for a 3/2 when no other allows follower is around

B-b-balanced
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>>172170623
>Sorry.
It's ok. I understand this is a hostile environment so your assumption is understandable and I do not hold it against you.

>>172170280
I wish I had 22k vials. Close to 10k now.
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Can someone let me win a full game for both quests

29893

thanks in advanced
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>>172170556
she got a bit thicker

it's fine because you can just exercise her
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D I N G
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>>172170081
And she still won't drop for me.
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>tfw fell for the cblood meme
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>>172170642
>Fanfare: Deal 2 damage to a random enemy follower. Then give +2/+0 to a random allied follower.
the wording on the official site makes it look like she buffs herself, and I sure as hell hope so
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>>172170212
Howl is the most honest finisher in the game. It doesn't leave behind a board the opponent has to deal with, unlike other classes that will just slam evolved storm minions into face all game long because dealing your minion's attack in direct burn immediately apparently only costs .5 mana. It also doesn't scale into 15+ combo damage at 7+ mana like Roach. It's a simple, limited burst combo that just happens to come in at a slightly quicker timing than most other finishers.
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>>172170623
Use the pack value calculator in the pastebin. It tells you which to buy and how many you'll expect to buy to get everything you want.
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>>172170956
literally the worst control deck.
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>>172170642
Orthus is such a meme card, i think they had piercing rune in mind when they made it and made sure it was in it's worst possible state.
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>>172170280
4k coins and 7k vials

might get rid of my nep deck but i'll wait it out
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>>172169575
>Wednesday

Does it come out at Thursday 0:00 JST then?
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>>172170080
>>172170069
I use 3 Merlin and no Levi in my DS deck although I also use 3 Blade Mage's. Aggro matchups are so bad that using Levi barely helps honestly. Against bats you basically have to get out Flame Destroyers early while hoping they don't have DoD for any chance. You'll want to use Merlin for evolve in any control matchup obviously.
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>>172171004
I'm just trying to get blood to lvl 75 at this point, not gonna bother with 100.
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>>172170956
>people actually think TotG will save this mess

hahahahaha
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>>172170081
Fuck Luna. Cerberus and Charon are why I play shadow. Too bad we are never getting either as a leader.
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>>172170907
You can craft her instead
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>>172170642
orthrus is shadow, geryon is blood

really makes you think

>>172171004
midrange blood literally won famico

sekuseee!
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>>172170485
>And how often do those strategies win the game?
All the time. Albertcraft is the best deck right now but aside from that most aggro decks have pretty average winrates. Elana's meanwhile is the worst deck in the entire game, with a 43% overall winrate and 39% against "midrange" Sword.
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>>172171019

Do you mean as a shadow imitation of PR? Or that the Devs designed it to get hit by PR?

Because if it's a shadow imitation, it'd have to be discounted on evo.
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>>172171126
I can see Cerb being turned into a leader someday
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>>172171147
I will once I figure out ToG meta.

>inb4 she gets powercreeped
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>>172171229
>midrange
>control

pick one, anon
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>>172170992
>honest
No memes please.

I don't think that it's bad that it finishes you fast. I think it's bad that it's basically guaranteed to happen. Don't kill their 1/1, you take 1 every turn. Kill their 1/1, it turns into burst damage unless you have a ward. Burst damage in this game is just too prevalent. The only solutions I see are improving non-burst options so that burst potentially has to be wasted on board control, or make better wards.
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>>172170956
well to be honest, you got possibly the worst matchup possible
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>>172171229
>X is the worst control deck
>yeah but Y won famico
??
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>>172170956
Brick city life
Me try fi get by
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>>172170956
What's the problem?
Queen vampire, get hit then revelation them. He can't play any more followers anyway. Unless he got cyclone or something.
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>>172171259
Yeah, as an imitation. You're paying the full cost of a piercing rune to blast an enemy follower for 2 and hope that you have a follower who's ready to attack. Then you get a whopping 1/2 body, amazing.
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>>172171310
>you got possibly the worst matchup possible
That's Cblood's worst matchup?
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>>172171237
Then what counters sword?
>>
>>172171310
queen vampire x2 into revelation
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>>172171424
>Unless he got cyclone or something.
He did.
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>>172170821
D O N G
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>>172171475
Daria
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>>172171286
>you kill their board
>they drop a 5/7 Albert on you
>now you need to spend your turn to deal with a fat 5/7 or he smacks you again

Howl is tame in comparison. You can even gauge the amount of damage a shadow can hit you because they don't have much burst option.
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real life cow
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>>172171446
I exaggerated but most of blood's early removal is targeted which is useless there
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>>172171517
Typical. Why wouldn't he have it, It's not like you wanted to win or anything.
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>>172171475
Depends on the sword. MidRange is countered by Daria and most types of Haven. Then again, Daria counters literally everything except the most hyper agressive decks and CBlood.
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>>172171517
Stop replying to yourself.
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>>172171640
How do you know that's not a push up bra trick? They're also big for Asian standards but not even that big for 'Murrican ones.
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>>172171310
cbloods worst matchups are still forest and dshift.
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>>172171705
Do not reply to him, newfriend
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>>172171656
how much untargeted early removal is there even?
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>>172171779
>forest
Yeah, it's pretty bullshit. Not sure why I even tried something other than ungabats, already lost 800 master points in one sitting with this deck.
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It's knowledge i seek.
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>>172171286
>Howl
>consumes a second resource
>limited by board space
>blocked by wards
>does damage and leaves behind nothing
>can't even play shit alongside it

There is no burn in the game with more drawbacks than phantom howl
>>
>>172171126
>>172170519
Literally made for breeding
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>>172172217
>not shown: Dshifting a match she clearly should of lost.
>>
>>172171595
I'm not saying that it's unreliable, I'm saying that it's punishing you for trying to board control against an aggro deck. When you kill his Albert, you killed his Albert. You didn't automatically enable him to play his second Albert only by killing his first.

>>172171583
>>172171724
>countered by Daria
Oh boy, I get to get called cancer while countering the most successful deck in the game. And I'm not sure what the future of haven will be in the next expansion with dragon getting lightning breath.
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>>172172297
only upside is you can spend an evolve for 2 extra damage
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This is your starting hand tonight.
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>>172172457
You got me. Not even daria can handle dshift.
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>>172172209
playing cblood shows you how truly broken forest and nep are.

anyone who thinks otherwise needs to sit down and grind out cblood games.
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>>172172614
I T ' S M E
T
'
S

M
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VANIA
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>>172172704
>dubshitters
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>>172172502
Daria is officially Less Cancer Than AlbertĀ® now.
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>>172172502
>I get to get called cancer
Because you are. Sword is annoying, but it got nothing on the sheer vitriolic nature and cancerousness of Daria, which has literally ruined the entire meta of the game by existing. A 5/7 with Storm on Turn 5 is bad, but fucking nothing compared to 2x3/4s a 5/5 a 4/4 +3 damage and storm minions on Turn 5. Or a 3/4 and a 2/2 on Turn 3.
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>>172172773
kys weebcuck
>>
>>172172102
angelic barrage and foul tempest are 3pp. lurching corpse is 2pp but you need to activate it somehow so that's at least 3pp used. forest has a bunch of pings like may but they're not super useful against that board.

as for hard removal, thighassassin is probably the earliest from the top of my head without any class mechanic gimmick.
>>
With a bang and also, a boom.
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>>172172614
Cute, rate my starting hand.
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>>172172879
Enjoy your 30+ low effort voices on little girls.
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>>172172940
delet this right now
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>>172172940
Cancer/10
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new:
>>172173027
>>172173027
>>172173027
>>172173027
>>172173027
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>>172172643
Stop replying to yourself.
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>>172172963
Thanks, I will.
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>>172172614
Not impressive.
>>172172940
Very good hand.
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>>172172502
>you didn't automatically enable him to play his second Albert only by killing his first.

Because he doesn't need to. If he has another Albert and no alwida on turn 6, he will always put out another 5/7 whether if you remove the first one or not.

Most of the time a shadow player will have expended himself after the first howl, so two howls with 5 ghosts back to back is rare.
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>>172173052
please don't insult me like that, aa-kun
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>>172172940
Deserved desu
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