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/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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WARNING: DLC2 HAS BEEN DATAMINED, IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE SPOILED, GO AWAY

>Succumbed to seeing too many King's Field references:
>>172125501

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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I unironically enjoy DaS3
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1st for Pyromancy is best magic and Demon's Scar is going to be good purely because it doesn't have split damage.
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>>172141548
Me too
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>>172141548
Most people do
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Any chance the infusion bullshit is going to be reverted or at least revised? Because it's complete ass right now. Nothing makes sense and all the uninfusable weapons need to have an ar buff to compete with this nonsense.
>>172141548
It's my favourite of the dark souls series, but I really hope they're going to implement singlestat weapons in a way that actually makes sense.
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>>172141548
me3
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So PS4 got today second part of DLC preload but PC got everything in 1.11 patch?
Why no one play DLC on PC like in DS2 case?
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Now that there are 3 maps for duels does that mean that matchmaking is divided 3 times?
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>people can drop others DLC items from AoA and soon the new DLC
>FROM doesnt ban these people for owning DLC items but not the DLC

really makes you think..
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>>172141682
They need to re-buff refined, or at least rework it again so certain weapons are always better when refined.
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>>172141709
Because the patch only had about 1 GB of actual content, which was the weapons and new arena maps.

The DLC locations were deliberately held back so that dataminers couldn't break into it with Collector's Edition.
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>>172141770
It's probably a dumb pointer that tells if you have accessed one of the dlc bonfires.
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>>172141709
>Why no one play DLC on PC like in DS2 case?
Because we're getting another patch tomorrow that unlocks compatibility with the DLC. It's literally impossible to get into it right now.
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>>172141729
Not necessarily. Choosing Random allots you all three map pools. It's the various game types that split the community mostly.
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>>172141794
>They need to re-buff refined
hey let's not do that
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At least one of you faggots must have played this by now

Is this guy right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7C5DQQaiAQ [Embed]

It reminded me of KF but about a generation late.
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>>172141770
No it doesn't, you're just retarded.

There's never been a restriction on dropping DLC weapons for other players, and the main reason for buying the DLCs is to actually explore the new areas. If you want the spells, the DLC experience and being able to make the weapons yourself instead of mooching off of other people, then you buy the DLC.
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The moonlight is obviously a reference to Velka, right?
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>>172141926
I don't even play refined builds, but the fact that almost every single infusable weapon is made WORSE refined as opposed to heavy/sharp at 40 strength/dex is stupid. There should be a reason to run refined other than just greater weapon variety.
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>>172142030
The entire DaS series will be revealed to have taken place in Velka's cleavage
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>>172142074
>There should be a reason to run refined other than just greater weapon variety.
why?
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good spot to invade at high sl for tongues? farming dks is tedious
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>>172142074
Not most, barely any weapon is better sharp or heavy 40/40 post patch. It only loses a lot to them compared to 66/base or base/40
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>no luck weapon in DLC
Why?
>>172141907
>>172141831
From can't be so smart. It's just impossible for them
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>>172142074
>literally defending quality
there's no weapon variety in quality, you only use what has the best damage and is in the best class.
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>>172141548
I enjoyed all the souls games
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>>172141984
>There's never been a restriction on dropping DLC weapons for other players

Thats fucking retarded, items and weapons are half the DLC, youre telling FROM is ok with people passing shit up to others just like that? Either people here lie or FROM is literally retarded for allowing it.
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>>172141682
>It's my favourite of the dark souls series
Let me guess its the only one you played.
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>>172142378
Even Slashy Souls?
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Don't suppose anyone is available to help me with Lothric? PS4, Pass is dsg. I'm 65 so I'm thinking I overlevelled a bit, because there's no summons about
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Post fashions + rate
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>>172142152
Because what's the point in creating a refined build? If you want tonnes of weapon variety, you could just level all your stats up to 99.
Just like how there are weapons tailored for strength, dex, int,and faith, there should at least be some weapons that are tailored to be refined. As it is right now, refined builds are only for weapons that are NOT infusable, such as boss weapons and black knight weapons. This would actually be fine, aside from the fact that it makes refined gems obsolete.
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>>172142213
dude the game literally tells you where to invade now
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>>172142471
Bet you're either a Demon Souls, or Dark Souls 2 faggot. You guys are cancer.
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>>172141794
Thats one thing to do. Bleed nerfs were also unjustified now that poison is made somewhat good. But the fact that 40 str is better than 25/25 for a longsword shows that they did not know what they're were doing were making that patch. The only thing necessary was to give heavy and sharp some more room to grow by making the scaling from 40-60 better. That way heavy/sharp infused weapons can compete with refined weapons. Just like the magic system. Thing is, I wouldn't mind if they didn't do any of that and just switched back to the old infusion system. Because buffing heavy and sharp would only result in making all magic infusions better, and making spells less and less worth using,
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>>172142475

Forgot to mention, I'm at the boss fog, bollocks to running through the mini gauntlet
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>>172142473
Kek, I have to admit I haven't played that one.
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>>172142491
There are a ton of weapons better refined though, you idiot.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SQ4MZANAqrfBnSjWeXUxCzv8DX8UewA3QeG6QPcx6X4/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
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>>172142551
>It's my favourite of the dark souls series
>not cancer
Whatever scrub.
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>>172142486
i'm going with millwood.
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I'm guessing fire damage will be more useful for my pyro than dark aside from for the bats in the dlc? Trying to decide whether to go chaos or dark on the Greatsword weapon.
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turns out that the pyromancer pants really look like the maiden in blacks pants. Cool find if anything, now i just need a blindfold and some rags to cover up my chest

Does anyone know a good shirt for this?
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>>172142467
It's actually a smart move. Most people don't cheat and won't be able to get all weapons from trading for all their characters, so after getting a flashy weapon from DLC they will be even more tempted to buy it.
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>it's possible to have both high intelligence and high faith

This really is a fantasy game
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I'm one of those people who wants to play dark souls 3 because of bloodborne, what should I expect
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Updated DaS3 end credits song, with the added piano part:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJKgS2J9m9I
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>>172142634
Ok, I'm retarded then.
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>>172142801

Enemies just as fast as you're used to, but a slower character
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>>172142819
Its over...the series is really over...that music is very sad
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How are there no image/vid leaks of the bosses? I'ts 2017 ffs...
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>>172142801
A better game. Das3 is like a chinese bootleg of bloodborne.
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>>172142747
>stretch out with slave knight leggings
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>>172142854
Yes you are
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I haven't played 3 in a while, what's the deal with those markings next to the bonfire locations in the menu?
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>>172142769
>It's possible for anon to not be a useless waste of organs
Without a doubt it's fantasy
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>>172142471
>Gets this butthurt when somebody says X souls is my favourite

This fucking community. Do people think somebody is out to get them or something?
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>>172142747
Gravewarden.
For the blinfdold the ringed knight hood has a pretty nice one, although it is also a hood.
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>>172142994
Read the bottom you smouldering ghru
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>>172143013
Yes. Das3 is a shit game and everyone who likes it should neck themself.
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>>172142491
>you could just level all your stats up to 99
And find noone to play with
>there should at least be some weapons that are tailored to be refined
there are, numbnuts. It's just that not EVERYTHING is better refined
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>a simple broken, rusted greatsword allows you to do such a wicked flips even Arty's gear looks slow and clunky as hell
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>>172143104
I must be going blind
thanks
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>>172142763
thats some retard logic right there
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I still hope for new weapons in next part of DLC
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>>172141548
I enjoy every game in this series, though each one has something in it that I prefer over the others.
It's funny that that's one of the most controversial things I could possibly say with regards to this fanbase.
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Vordt's Great Hammer should not be allowed to be this strong
>run up to someone
>activate perseverance while they try to attack me
>fuck them with massive damage and frost before they can even do anything
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>>172143326
There is no next part my man
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>>172143326
let it go anon
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>>172143376
Stay mad dexfaggot
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>>172143105
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>>172143326
So what was the "returning fan favourite weapon" that the jap review mentioned anyway? The Door?
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>>172143135
every single DLC weapon is basically animer tier, embrace this paradigm shift
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>>172142747
Zullie's mask
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>>172143135
how's the crossbow though
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for some reason I'm super hyped for ringed city because I think we'll get answers. but then I remember that I know better
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>>172143376
>People actually hitting you while you pop perseverance
I love the influx of noobs near DLC release
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>>172143430
But I'm the one wielding the death-popsicle, anon
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>>172142614
>>172142475
Still need help? I'll drop my sign by the fog gate.
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>>172143376
People just underestimate it and play dumb.
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i be needing help with ancient dragon, those chain axe guys are giving me a lot of trouble
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>>172143105
brb, comitting suicide
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40/10 heavy longsword: 401 ar
25/25 refined longsword: 344 ar
This shit infusion patch is so stupid and I can believe some retards here actually think its good. The longsword (staple quality weapon) is now a str straightsword.
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I want my weaponfu.
Not the broken crusty variant. Give me the true sword.
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So...Here's the guy who actually played The Ringed City
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>>172143683
VELKA'S BEDROOM CONFIRMED
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>>172143647
how much AR at 40/40 refined?
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>>172143683
please be related to velka
PLEASE
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>>172142907
Because they can't be cheated in yet.
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>>172143772
428, but thats a moot point.
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>>172142769
>What is philosophy about religion?
>not believing in God is not merely a believe as well, its a tell of intelligence and education
>science has the definite truth about everything

Also bait
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>>172142905
oh that sounds terrible
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>when you start creaming the opposing team in 3v3 and the one guy turns on the cursed weapon script

I can taste the tears.

>tfw still get "best combatant" despite losing
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>>172142467
Why should From care about people getting access to the DLC weapons and armors? Far more of the work goes into creating the DLC areas, the enemies you encounter in the DLC, the arena system that requires getting a DLC exclusive item, and most of all the actual boss fights within the DLC. All of which people without the DLC will be denied access to (on top of the spells since those can't be dropped either).

It's probably trivial for them to put a restriction in (just add a flag so that DLC items don't appear for people who don't have the DLC, just like upgrade materials, covenant items and above-level weapons). But they still haven't after all this time, which suggests that they deliberately decided not to. As the other anon said, it's a good way to promote the DLC and encourage people to buy it to experience the rest of the content, like how the gauntlet zones in the DaS2 DLCs allow you to summon people to experience part of the DLC without owning it.
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>>172143570

Aye man, if you're still available
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>>172143683
>yfw it's not actually possible to solve the puzzle
>it's another pendant
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>>172143761
>>172143823
Can someone give an actual, straight answer as to why people obsess so hard over Velka?
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>>172143973
she's the most important character in the franchise
she's responsible for pretty much everything that happens in the games
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>>172143973
Because Vaati is a faggot
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>>172143973
We're just meming because a bunch of the "e-celebs" were anticipating Velka being a major character in AoA, and then were BTFO.
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>>172143937
Sign's down.
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>>172144064
Can you explain that? What did she do that had such an impact?
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>>172143973

m e m e s
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>>172143973
KEH HEH HEH HEH
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>>172143973
She is the Jew of the dark souls franchice
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whats the final boss of the series going to be?
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>>172142747
Those aren't the pyromancer trousers I know

Where'd you get those?
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>>172143973
She appears a lot indirectly
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>3 phantoms pointing down
Dex is really useless against ganks
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>>172143683
why are we even worrying, people with cheat engine will just free camera through the entire are and see what's inside or whatever


if you enter the supposedly secret area with ce you get a screamer
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What are the go-to weapons for faith builds?
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>>172144128
Cheers boss
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>>172144202
Gael with the Dark Soul
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>>172143921
As logic as that all sounds, people have been banned before for this shit havent they?
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>>172144187
We've still had no info on the pardoner set/ velka's rapier
>>172144127
Her eldest daughter was though
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how is the greatsword now with the patch? any good on a 66 str build?
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WHATEVER
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>>172144348
Better than Fume, actually
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>>172144348
Yeah more AR than FUGS and a helluva lot lighter
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>>172144295
For dropping DLC stuff for people who don't have the DLC? No.

For breaking into the game with Collector's Edition and passing around weapons before the DLC was released? Yes. Although it was only temporary in the case of AoA.
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>>172144217
absolute madman stick
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>>172144348
I'm gonna try it later today.
Tried the Cathedral GS yesterday and didn't make me cream my pants like BKGS did before the patch.
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>>172143673
>we get another flip sword
>it's not the one
I WANT IT BACK
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>>172144284
It's Soul of Cinder though, he's the only entity keeping you from choosing either end for the current state of the world. Gael is a side subplot.
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I'll be fine
Right?
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>>172144451
>>172144458
>FUGS went from one of the most broken weapons in DaS3 upon launch, to being BTFO by the far more common Gutssword
>tfw you Slabbed a FUGS just weeks ago

Well, that's what NG+ Slabs are for, I guess.
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>>172144610
No
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>>172144128

Got him mate, sorry he had you at the end, cheers for the help

>>172144610

Too high from the looks of things
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>>172144673
Yeah FUGS is pretty much trash tier now.
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>>172144718
As long as you got him. He skipped for a second and caught me.
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>>172144714
>>172144718
You're no fun, /dsg/.
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>>172144213
Fuck scream scares. I was replaying the game for the first time in months in order to prepare myself for trc and that damn dungeon cell in Irithyll got me. again.
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>>172144816

You can thank the optimal wonders of Virgin Broadband for that

Because my ancestors not getting sent to Australia apparently doesn't save me from that fate
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>>172144610
Plunge down from the plank and hurry home
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>No Giant Armor with cloth physics

It could have been so swag, m8s.
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Reminder that everyone will get whats coming to them
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>BB popular in japan even now
>BB online is dead for west
>/bbg/ is trash hole pve circlejerk
life is pain
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>>172144904

I'll have you know I occasionally speak in a different accent while working with customers at work

I'm the fucking epitome of fun
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>>172142683
Chaos, but dark for the demons.
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>>172145015
Dark Souls 3 is the better game
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>>172145015
They still do FCs every week, don't they?
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>>172145009
>Swinging 1h ugs 2 times
What a fucking tard
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Cheapest place to buy the season pass?
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>>172145015

>BB is a 30FPS locked console exclusive

Pain indeed.
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>there'll never be a Dark or Abyss Covenant in DS3

Sigh
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>>172144976
Godless abomination.
Actually, I'm kinda surprised I haven't ran into any fluffy dragon """waifus""" in need of purging so far in the dlc.
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>tfw no dsgbf
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>>172144904
No fun allowed
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>>172145247
Last FC I participated was 15 minute of nothing. It's basically 3.5 US anons fighting against each others
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>>172145009
>he got up after that riposte
what in the fuck
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>>172145405
I can be your bf!!
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>>172145110
>different accent
>"listen, anon is pretending to be from Minnesota again! What an absolute madman!"
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>>172145251
yeah, this is why i prefer shields over caestus parrying. the utility of the shield and setup parries are too good
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>>172145538
Sad!
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>>172145015
>>BB popular in japan even now
japan literally ONLY plays playstation.

in the west, it has competition, gamers are more casual, and others just can't rationalize paying sony for online you already pay for
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Bought this shit for my ps4 but never beat even though DeS, BB and DaS are some of my favorite games. Is now a good time to pick it back up again? Might just take a few shots of kraken and have a lazy sunday playing this again. How fun is pyromancy with the new xpacs and shit?

Is the pro patch any good?
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>>172145940
Pyromancy is really good.
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So what is top tier now that all the weapons on top got nerfed
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>>172141480
What are the 4 best rings to use for a pyro build?

Chloranthy+2
Favor+2
Witch
?
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>>172146037
great swamp, witch, sage and life for pvp
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>>172145837
>others just can't rationalize paying sony for online you already pay for
But even people from Russia able to pay for online. How the fuck US people can be so greedy?
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>hodrick pulls off 3 R1s into a charged R2 into a follow up uncharged R2 and still has enough stamina left to cancel his recovery and parry my shit
I see now where he gets his nickname from.
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Haven't played this game since release, gonna do a Deprived playthrough since I have no idea what kind of weapons I want to use.

Any early gear specifically worth getting? Only thing I remember is the raw ASS.
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W-wait, am I at the end already?
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>>172146261
In Russia you can buy 80 megabits per second internet for 10$ a month.
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wow guys
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>>172145692

See, geezer gets it

Mostly New Orleans tho, I dunno what a Miners Sota sounds like
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Hodrick is my husbando!
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>>172144209
>not enjoying the true Dark Souls 3 tm experience
kek
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>>172143939
>after a year someone solves the puzzle
>it's just a room with a giant Miyazaki head spitting pendants while shouting "YOU RIKE?"
The next day Miyazaki is no where to be found and From's bank accounts are missing.
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>>172146519
Yeah Ashes is like 2 hours if you don't die.
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>>172146261
>Souls online is mostly peer to peer
>both PS3 and PC manage to have working servers despite no fee
>sony expects me to pay for a subscription to access souls online despite already paying for my internet which handles most of it's shit anyway

it's a jewish scheme, and they ONLY get away with it because they saw Microsoft was getting away with it on the 360.
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>>172146540
try going hollow and see what happens
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>>172146424

>Go to punish him while he casts Power Within
>He parries me mid-cast
>Later on, fighting Heysel
>Go to BS him for chugging
>He rotates on the spot to stay facing me while sipping

NPCs can be pretty cheeky.
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>>172146540
I bet you just have to be hollow.
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>>172145940
>>172145998
Aight so niggas is finna get burnt. Just start with a pyro and go from there? Anything I need to know while leveling it up?
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This will be the last time we get instant summons in a Souls game.
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>>172146424
>fighting Hodrick with a parry-able weapon
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>>172146601
I'd be unironically okay with this.
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can my lorian cosplay use the gay princes greatsword?
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Lightning Arrow is actually quite good. I dropped it for myself and have just been able to start using it because of its requirements, but I can use it 6 times at base Attunement as a cleric. It does good damage and has a fast cast time, even without dex. I think it actually remains at a very short constant cast time, because with Sage Ring it doesnt seem to have gotten any faster.
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>>172146550
>t. Shrine Handmaid
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>>172143673
I hated how in DaS1 there was three variants of that fucking thing and two variants of his shield.

The weapon designer must have had a boner for Artorias.
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>>172146624
I thought it was just a meme. Fuck.
Took me about 4-5 hours to get here though.
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>be farming Cinder
>host summons me
>host summons/gets invaded by a red that's disguised as yellow
>instantly threw undead hunter charm at him
>he runs to foggate ready to go in
>beat him to a pulp
>last 1mm HP just won't disappear no matter what
>host sends me home
>wat
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>>172146764
I don't think so.
As he says "no one from the press is able to figure out". I don't think noone was hollow.
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>>172146751
>him
>>172146778
^this
>attacking hodrick when he has his shield out otherwise
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>>172146828
>mini Dragonslayer Greatbow
CUTE!!
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>>172146828
This is with an unupgraded Cleric Chime and Morne's ring too
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>>172146778
I fought Hodrick with a +2 raw rapier and won.
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>>172146514
Anri's SS works well on deprived, but you need to kill an NPC if you want it early, and doing so eternally pisses off the NPC who gives you the untrue white/dark rings

The prisoner's chain is a good twink-ring but it isn't earlygame unless you sequence break and kill dancer early

The caestus is in the settlement aqueduct near the giant rat/locked door to irina
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>>172146764
>game requires you to do the hollow storyline, which requires another 5 levels if you aren't still hollow, to access the secret area
Fucking better not
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>>172143683
>>172146540
Wait, is this legit?
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Is this the biggest dissapointment in the history of dissapointments ever or what
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>>172147046

Full Dark Sigil could be the key
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>>172143453
Yeah that seems weird. Does anyone know what it is?
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>>172146525
>Russia
>shit salaries
>games cost $80+

>US
>FREEDOM
>can't afford PS+
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>>172146828
>that face
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I did a very minuscule testing with the new bleed patch. They really buffed the heck out of bleed infusion that it is actually less useless (still gimmicky). Rouge has been nerfed, and seems to only be effective with enemies weak to bleed (which is what it should have been)

I still want to know how much carthus rouge adds now; the more mathematical anons out there should check out my math and give some more insight.

If anyone else has questions, I'd like to find out too.
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>>172146601
>this
>but with this image instead
>every sound is "u riku?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VGKiOTT8h4
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>>172143453

Old Moonlight, I guess
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>>172147131
When I first got done with that place I didn't find the optional area with the swamp so I thought the entire area was literally a corridor to Yhorm.
Not that the optional area makes it much better, mind you.
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>>172147131

That place must be related to Velka somehow
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>>172142769
Faith is more Willpower or Wisdom than religious faith. Faith and Intelligence means more faith and understanding of oneself. The most human magic types (Pyromancy and Dark Magic) are Int/Fai, while the magic of the gods is pure faith or int.
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>>172147131
One of my favorite areas for aesthetics alone. It also has a rather large optional part.
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>>172147313
It'd be so shitty if that spell was the returning weapon
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>>172147131
>Is this the biggest dissapointment in the history of dissapointments ever or what
>Das3
Yes.
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>>172147175

Or perhaps eating Gael's soul
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>>172147236
>>games cost $80+
lolno
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so what happened to quelana after DS1? did she die with the bed of chaos? wander off? hollowed?

>pic related
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>>172147236
>games cost $80+
No they don't. Even on PSN they are usually only around 30$ most.
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>>172147131
For me, it was roughly as disappointing as the Crystal Caves or the path to Izalith that had all those Capra Demons.
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So... how much strength should a strength build have?
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>>172147516
Did you forget about her pyromancy tome in DS3?
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>>172147587

60
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>>172147587
99
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>>172147587
40-66 depending on your level
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>>172147587
27>40>60>66 depending on planned level and purity
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what are the stats on the ringed knight straight sword? WA looks gucci af but lmao if it hits as hard as fume sword
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>>172147587
66 for meme 99 str; 50 str so you can wield everything.

Have at least 16 dex so most UGS can be wielded
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>>172147587
66
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>>172147517
>>172147497
>https://store.playstation.com/#!/ru-ru/home/%D0%B8%D0%B3%D1%80%D1%8B

4000rub = $70
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>>172146540

>tfw didn't bother getting the 5 levels from Yoel
>will probably have to go to NG++++ to get this

FUUUUUCK
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>>172147516
She finally re-entered Quelagg's Domain, curled up next to the Fair Lady and they both died.
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>>172147131
>mfw i actually believed the Profaned Capital would be the land the giants from DS2 came from

>mfw i tought they would expand on what vendrick stole from the giants

>mfw i actually believed dark souls 3 would be a good game that would actually expand the lore of the franchise since they announced beforehand this would be the last game for at least quite some time

>mfw i wanna have faith about the ringed city
>>
>loading times like 3 times longer than on console for no reason

wtf is this gay horseshit
>>
>>172147587

>having anything other than 66 after the latest patch
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>>172147204
Might mean we have more shit to come, especially since no new rings. Might refer to Old Moonlight, or maybe something else.
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>>172146991

It deals about 381 damage with 60 FAI + fully upgraded Yorshka Chime.
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>Halflight, Spear of the Church
>Moaning Knight
Who are these NPCs ? I've seen the rest mentioned in descriptions or are returning ones.
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>>172147806
It links to the home page, dingus.
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>>172146770
>>172146770
>>172146770
Bump please help before i fuck off and play shit is done loading now
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>>172147768
So at 16 dex and 60-66 str, how much do i cut from vig/vit/end to fit into sl120 meta
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>tfw you die in a boss fight as a fantom prematurely

s-sorry
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>>172147830
>that would actually expand the lore of the franchise
Is there really any part of either sequel that does this in a meaningful way? Did people still think that would happen after 2 kind of did its own thing for the most part and didn't tie into 1 very much?
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>>172146774
Fuck
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>>172148090
>tfw you host dies but you kill the boss the moment after he dies, granting you victory
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>>172143376
Vordt ATM has one of the lower AR out of all GH. I wasnt complaing about the damage before but the frost bite actually made it so much better now.

GM has been buffed to be better than Dragon Tooth in terms of damage, STR requirement and weight. Id still use the tooth for swag factor, I guess.
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>>172144983
Dark Souls 3 really lacks in silver plated armor.

The Giant Set would make for great fashion.
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>>172148024
>Moaning Knight
Eygon, maybe ? Also, Spear of the Church is probably pic related.
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>>172147986
>returning weapon
>it's a spell
>its returning from fucking Bloodborne
There's no way
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>>172148050
Google russian ps store by yourself
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I want to prepare a str char for TRC
What weapon has most orgasmic charged R2s?
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>>172148024
Halflight is either the covenant bossfight or an npc introducing you to the cov. No idea about the moaning knight. The divine spear monument is most likely where you make offerings to the covenant
>Alva
wat
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>>172148090
>sign down for vordt to farm some embers
>actually die a few hits away from the end
The guy must have been in NG+ or something because it only took two hits to kill me and we were doing next to no damage, but still
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>>172146184
Life is better than chloranthy and favor?
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>Tomorrow is the end of Dark Souls
Hold me lads...
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>>172148310

Curved Greatswords R2s are really good now with the forward momentum buff, so Exile GS would be right up your alley.
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>want to farm souls on princes
>host usually dies right after start of fight
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>>172148416
Life +3 is pretty good
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>>172141480
Why does the assassin show up in the church if Yuria never showed up in firelink?
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>>172145009
Shame that my AESTHETIC weapon has now gotten silly attention because of the WA glitch.
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>>172148024
There can only be one moaning knight.
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How heavy is lapps armor? wanna do 66 str build
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>>172148462
It's so easy to miss with the 2hR2 on the curved greatswords. Tight hitbox.
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>>172148310
Profaned UGS
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>>172148569
>shield doesn't even moan anymore when you use the L2
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>>172148514
Better than favor or chloranthy? Chloranthy is good for casters
>>
Is soul level 80 more fun than soul level 120?
Or is soul level 100 the secret patrician level?
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>>172146540
No, your other humanity.
>>
>The Ringed Knights, by command of the gods, stood amongst the ranks who set out to slay the dragons, but their contributions were never lauded.
Who are ringed knights? Don't look like pygmies, and they got city and god's daughter
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>Weapon is called greataxe.
>Has less range than any normal axe.
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>>172146037
Witches + Sages are required. Fire/Dark Clutch are bad for PvP because they shred your resistances. Darkmoon is ridiclously effecient but 10 ears. Swamp Ring is ok but you might rather go Life/Favour/Chain instead depending on what SL you plan to end up at.
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>>172148416
Chloranthy isn't that great unless you fat roll, gimping your stamina. You NEED witch and swamp for damage and sage for speed. The one slot left is up to you, but for duels the best would be life+3
>>172148705
Of course it does, you just can't hear it from other players
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>>172148307
Well that's certainly weird, but most games on PSN cost the same as in the west.
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>>172148715
Anything below 100 is fun, really. I find during China Hours though a lot of hackers show up in my 95~ characters.
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>>172148724
Humans
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>>172148810
I tried using it, fully meeting the requirements and there was no sound effect
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>>172148752
>greataxe
>merely okay
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>>172148723
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>>172148818
Russian psn use euro prices because everyone should suffer.
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>>172148752
>Ultra Greatsword
>is actually a metal paddle that deals im pact damage
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>>172145796
You won't be able to setup parry anyone who isn't a retard.
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>The white-faced locusts were meant to beckon men to the dark with sermons, but most of them are unable to think past their own stomachs. Someone must rise to the occasion, and restore the path of righteousness.
>Perhaps that someone is you? Did you not arise from the Abyss, and did you not resist drowning in the Age of Fire? Locusts and men are kindred spirits.
What did they mean by this?
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>>172148724
Humans are pygmies.
Humans are just smaller than godkin
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can any cheatengine bros hook me up with that sweet sweet blindfold
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>>172148024
>>172148283
>>172148569
Yeah, Moaning Knight seems to be Eygon. There's a character entry for him that was added with the content patch, just like there's an additional Alva entry.
>>
So besides int and faith, what else should I be leveling up on my fresh pyro? First playthough btw
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>>172148915
I used it a few hours ago and there was an audible "aaaah". Was there another patch in between?
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>>172148065
INT/FTH for damage, ATT/END/VIG for your core. VIT is base STR/DEX is leveled for minimum requirements. What Soul Level are you planning on ending at?
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>>172149069
get a bit of STR and DEX so you can use onyx blade and the Witch's lock
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>>172146540
>Show your Humanity
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>>172149035
The locust item descriptions are "written" by the locusts themselves just like the item description of the black leather set is written by Patches.
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>>172149070
I just went into the game to test it out again and there's still no sound effect. I have no idea what the issue is and it has been this way for a while.
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>>172149069
>First playthough btw
Nothing matters. Your first character is gimp. Just close /dsg/ and do what you want.
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>>172148810
>>172148793
But chloranthy means i can cast more and roll more

So witches, sages, favor, and darkmoon?
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>>172149030
thats just it anon, most people are retarded
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>>172149198
don't be silly, every description is written by patches
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>>172149069
15STR 17DEX. Lets you use Parting Flame, Onyx Blade, Witch's Locks, and Demon's Scar.
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>>172149193
would slam that face pussy
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>>172149058
So he'll be an invader in the DLC ?
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>>172149382
One more dex for GFS
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>>172149307
witch, swap, sage.
You can't swap those 3 rings. Enjoy DS3 magic
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>>172149098
Not a clue. Whats the meta on ps4 for pvp?
>>172149183
Thanks bud!
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>>172148450
I thought the DLC releases on the 28th?
>>
Most fun/ best weapon for a str build?
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>>172149193
That might actually be it. Either wear this headpiece or the hollow skin one to trigger a cutscene, just like wearing the Crown of Illusions after killing Logarius to get access to the Vilebloods.
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>>172149529
>fun
>das3
????
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>>172149527
It releases at 11 PM for me tomorrow.
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>>172149527
Depends on timezone. It should be out at Midnight CET, I think.
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>>172149382
Does str requirements even matter for parting flame?

I thought that only mattered for thr melee attack?
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>>172149448
Hard to say for sure. He could be a summon instead, if they felt like it.
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>>172149661
>fun
>souls games
????
>>
I started playing DeS and I've beaten Phalanx, Tower Knight, Armor Spider, Flamelurker, Dragon God, Fool's Idol and Adjudicator and I still don't really like the game. Is DaS better?
>>
>>172146540
Wild theory here.
The unkindled doesn't belong in the new painting "Ash." You have to go back to AoA dlc and find yourself a bed of rot to lay on. Accepting the end is to "show your humanity."
You have to lay down on the pallet in the centre of the bug pit in the Painted World. From there, they will feast on you and you will be transported to a bright cloudy world. You will be circled by Velka, Kaathe, Frampt, Havel, and more friends.
They will congratulate you.
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>>172149529
Quakestone, Great club. Fugs etc
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>>172149793
if you play and dont have fun you're worse than an arab mexican pinoy brazilian horned nigger
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>>172149602
It's not a headpiece. It's an effect, and it wasn't discovered yet what triggers it.
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>>172149793
DS1 invasions.
Even DS2 invasions
BB 2HKO invasions
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>>172141480
Throne watcher and Throne Defender will not spawn for me. When I enter through the fog gate the music plays and the health bars appear but the bosses themselves are nowhere to be seen. I am playing on PS4 with the latest patches. I have tried dying in the fight, playing offline, quitting out in the fight, reinstalling and nothing has worked. Please Help
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>>172149529
Great Club is great

Vordt Greathammer with its 110 frost is a blast both in pvp and pve.

Heavy Exile Greatsword is OP
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>>172149602
Just a note, the humanity face isn't an item, it's a SpEffect. It's not applied by the armor, their weapon, or any of the consumables though, so I'm not sure where you'll end up getting it.
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>>172149928
Good joke
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>saves got deleted
>no backup
>failed to protect this smile
>>172149746
it will probably destroy your stamina without the str
>>
So how do the different races even work?
We know
>Gods are immortal, but can be killed
>Humans are immortal outside of the age of fire, where they are mortal, and go insane from their immortality during the late stages of an age of fire
>Abyss gives Humanity power but is untamed during the age of fire
>the Dark Soul is special compared to the other Lord Souls
>Serpents and Locusts were allied with Humanity before the age of fire, before humanity was subjugated by the gods and made mortal by fire
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Thanks for the help with my pyro build. Going to go get drunk and get nothing done!!!

Also how do i stick my dick in Karla?
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>>172149051
Blindfold Mask?
>>
Does anyone run DaS3 with an SLI setup?

I have two 1080s so i should be able to shit on the game in 4K but it always seems to have issues

Is it just the usual japs not being able to into computer?
>>
>>172149920
>arab mexican pinoy brazilian nigger
Imaging that's your ethnic Mix, worse than hell
>>
>>172150150
>From
>Developing shit right
>Ever
lmao
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>>172149910
Leaked footage of the True Ending.
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>>172141480
>every character slider in the pasta is female
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>>172150040
>Abyss gives Humanity power but is untamed during the age of fire
what
Abyss corrupts everything, arhi just like others Gwyn knights wasn't human, and still was changed
>the Dark Soul is special compared to the other Lord Souls
It isn't
Nito soul is more special than any other lord soul because it allows you to literally send curses to the other worlds
>Serpents and Locusts were allied with Humanity before the age of fire
you insane
>>
>>172150089
Also SHIT to add to that should I make my character look like my dad (which i typically do) or a qt black waifu witch?
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>>172150014
That's not joke. In DS1 you're a threat. You can do anything against host. You can do cosplay without any problems.
In DS2, well soul memory trash.
In BB you're unstoppable for host because of gems
In DS3 you're just another mob for gank.
>>
>>172149529
>>172149661
>>172149793
>>172149928
>>>>>>>fun
>>>>>>>video games
Yeah, ok.
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>>172150150
Game is CPU intensive (for god knows why) and less GPU. Is there even a profile for it? Not that I've ever done SLI.
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>>172150029
Should have done a few back ups
RIP
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>>172150363
>fun
>fun
>>
>>172150309
>he didn't read the DLC2 item descriptions
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>>172150303
>no Onion Man
shit ending
>>
Anyone used the Great Mace since the patch able to tell me if it's worth shit?

I want a big heavy weapon and dont really want to use the Greatsword again
>>
Cheapest place to buy dlc/season pass?
>>
>>172150345
I have had a great experience from SL 80-90 invasions in dark souls 3 2bh.
>>
>>172150345
Yeah, effortless wins are not fun.

Ganking isn't fun, nor is twinking. Just because the side that always wins unless they decide not to changed doesn't mean it's any fun.
>>
>>172150363
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fun
>>
>>172150345
I'm not making any comment on 3.
What for you was fun about walking over to a host and killing them in seconds? I tried BB and 1 invasions at mid-level, and the scales were so hilariously tipped in my favor that I got absolutely no enjoyment out of any of it.
>>
>>172150563

It got a decent AR boost and is buffable. I'd say it's worth using if you don't really like Vordt's Hammer or the Exile GS.
>>
>>172150601
Be in London and succ me off and I'll gift you a pass.
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>>172150601
Steam/Xbox Live Marketplace/PStore

Where else are you going to even buy DLC anyway?
>>
quickly, i need ds3 mlgs build suggestion
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>>172150464
I did
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>>172148283
>Manus wore a girdle, dressed like a 70's gay club attendee, and had girl hair.

No wonder he was such an emotional wreck as an abyss monster and then his shards became women. He was a total fag as a human.
>>
>>172150490
Onion man died in an emotional scene with Yhorm.
>>
>>172150695
>not mail ordering your season pass from Walmart
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>>172150563
It now does more dmg than Dragon tooth, has less weight, and less requirement. Same WA and moveset, obviously.

Vordts now has insane frost but much lower AR (by about 70 points, at 30 str 2h)

It's now an actual option.
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WTF
Why somebody got items already ?

> https://youtu.be/V7vot1W2Wv4
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>>172150735
Nice fanfiction you got there.
>>
>>172150812
wow wtf? u think hes some kind of insider at from???
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>>172150186
im also american
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>>172150921
I'm so sorry
>>
>>172150812
>WARNING: DLC2 HAS BEEN DATAMINED
I don't know, anon, you tell me.
>>
wtf have they patched the tree jump at Firelink?
>>
>>172150617
>>172150670
I mean in those games you can create fun by yourself. Just remember Archive shenanigans. You still facing phantoms with +10 weapons but it's nothing. It's fun because those games are not DS3
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>>172150812
Must be a reviewer.
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>>172151075
no
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>>172148283
Also, I forgot to say, yes, the IDs line up for this to be Spear of the Church. Spear of the Church's boss name ID is 900218, and this NPC's ID is 21800, which for comparison, Aldrich's boss name is 905150 and his ID is 515000.

Weirdly, they forgot to equip the leggings of the set, so he just has the default shorts. I should check if they actually forgot or if they typo'd, because that'd be pretty funny.
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>>172151075
I did it today on a new character, so it's still possible.
>>
>>172150563

Vordt's can actually freeze things now in addition to being faster now.
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>>172147262
it's rogue you idiot
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>>172150812
yo wtf he must be a hacker!!! wowwww
>>
So what's the better GS now Claymore, BKS, Onyx?
>>
>>172151145
>>172151193
k did it too. just followed the wrong root.
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>>172151075
Just did it earlier but it seemed like more of a pain in the ass than usual.
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>>172151208
How is Vordt's freeze against mobs and bosses?
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Is it worth trying to cheese that nigga at the start for his LMAOKAT?
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I dropped 3 after beating it and came back to do the DLCs. Did they nerf/slow the Dark Sword or is it just that the DLC enemies are spammy niggers?

Also when can we get torches that let us breathe spammy fire that can hit multiple times?
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>use the five free red eye orbs at the start of the game
>first invade is a guy with two white phantoms who goes back to re summon them as he slowly clears the area
Literally what the fuck? How am I supposed to beat this? Can you not be an invader anymore? Do you have to twink out the ass to even stand a chance?
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Is PC getting a preload or is From too smart for that?
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>>172151345
Use your brain.
Are you a dex build?
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>>172151212
I can't tell if you're being an idiot on purpose or not.
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>>172151178
He doesn't have pants in the promo image as well. Just like Champion Gravetender.

By the way, doesn't he have the same face preset as Champion Gravetender ?
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>>172151345
He kills himself faster than mobs in the blighttown
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>>172151358
Google "Dark Souls 3 DLC walkthrough"
It's works!
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>>172151409
Not sure
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>>172151432
rouge - rpg class.
rogue - red in french.
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SO MANY HACKERS
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>>172151395
We already got a preload of player related assets like items and SpEffects. Areas and enemy assets won't be added until actual launch time, based on what happened with AoA.
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>>172151105

>boohoo i can't twink anymore
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Hey, /dsg/.
I'm planning a new character atm. Is snap freeze any good? I've never used it. PVE and PVP wise.
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>>172151345
cheesing him is easy. if you were asking about fighting legit, your question would make sense
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>>172151239
black knight sword is the best weapon in the game
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>>172151567
Google either one of those words real quick.
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>>172151639
>ganksquad apologist
Like a clock
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>>172151105
You can still gather a ton of shit most players don't have pre archives.
There's no fun to be created that you can't in 3.

Want to win with odds stacked against the other guy? Just gank instead of twinking, it's easy.
Want harder fights, just host but limit parts of what you do.
It's this simple.
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>>172151693
PvE, use it against bosses and watch them melt in co-op.

PvP, it's decent for zoning, but that's about it. Better to directly apply frostbite with Vordt's.
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>>172151705
Do i get his shit if he falls off the edge?
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>>172150695
I mean, if you're on PC there's several options for digital retailers. Which is what I'm on anyway. Gamesplanet and GMG for example are almost always way cheaper than Steam.
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so, are there any strength or strength mix builds that work pvp wise now? any good weapons or new shit in the dlc to look forward to for those builds? i was running a dex build but i'm a bit bored of it and wanna try something else

or just anything fun, really, pvp or otherwise; been out of the loop meta wise since like 3 patches ago
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>>172151820
you wouldn't get it until later in the game if you push him off the edge
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>>172151750
no way fag
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>>172151693
>Is snap freeze any good?
No. Useless
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So is frost viablr now?
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>>172151447
>By the way, doesn't he have the same face preset as Champion Gravetender ?

Yeah. Vilhelm too, if you unhollow him.
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>>172151867
Fuck i want that niggas katana bad. Should I spam fireballs at his homeless ass?
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>>172151820
yes just rest in a bonfire then come back to were he was and his items will be there
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Way of Blue equipped - can summon help when invaded

Blue Sentinels equipped - can summon help when invaded, can be summoned to help

Blade of the Darkmoon equipped - can be summoned to help

Add Blue Eye Orb which will allow you to invade players with Fingers if Rosaria, Aldrich Faithful or Watchdogs if Farron covenants equipped (though maybe limit the last two to when that player is in the specific covenant area they protect) and allow the player to get a Proof of Concord Kept if they defeat the player.

Name 1 (one) good reason it shouldn't work this way. Maybe you can.
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>>172151820
his items spawn where he stands after your rest at a bonfire
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>>172151639
Actually, no. You can very well twink in 3, because of how good some weapons are at base stats and because of stat rings. It's the high level invaders that are mobs, because fromsoft, in their effort to nerf twinks hurt invaders as a whole
>>172151820
afaik yes but you might have to reload the area
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>>172151937
Do you have the sliders for this by any chance? Actually looks pretty good
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>>172152012
Because time is convoluted
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>>172151791
Thanks. I'm assuming it ticks pretty fast if it melts bosses. Does it tick fast enough, say if I were to put it in a hallway, that it will apply the effect if the opponent tries to run/roll through it?
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>>172152012
>keep sentinels the same
>give darkmoons an orb that lets them invade a player who has recently killed a host
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>>172151693
It's good on the new dragon map since it's nothing but thin hallways. It's also good for keeping players away from you if you need space to regen stamina. I've gotten around 5 frostbite kills today alone because everybody rollspams when they're low health in the mist instead of timing their roll with the frostbite proc to avoid the damage. Even if they avoid the proc damage they're still debuffed for almost 25 seconds.
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>>172151991
pretty sure you can stagger him, so just don't be bad
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>>172151105
"You can create fun for yourself" doesn't change the fact that I was melting people in both those games with absolutely no effort whatsoever. Sure, I can intentionally gimp myself to make fights last longer, but that doesn't actually change the fact that hosts appeared to be next to incapable of doing anything to me.
I can gimp myself as a host in 3; I can use the dried finger in Irrythil with no summons and try to survive against a pretty constant stream of invaders. For me, that's actually kind of fun. But it's the same premise, I can shred invaders if I wanted to and it's only me manipulating things to make it a challenge.
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>>172151779
"Gravelording" is only one way you can have fun in ds3 pvp. HP penalty sucks for poor reds tho
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>>172152085
Pretty sure it's the same face as Heysel with a different skin tone.
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>>172151178
Thanks for the specificity. I've had people repeatedly deny the notion that spear of the church is an actual boss id in the files. People seem insistent that this fact is being made up.
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>>172152191
Thank you. I like the sound of it.
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>>172151937
Vilhelm is a cute girl (male)
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>>172152337
George M'Harris.
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>>172152337
gayboy
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>>172152337
Guts
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>>172152337
DrakePoiseking
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>>172152337
Ragnar Holmgangr
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>>172152331
The obnoxious thing about proving that it exists is that I know I could fake something like this with zero effort, but yeah, it's in.
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>>172152241
>absolutely no effort whatsoever.
Try invade in Anor Londo.
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>>172152337
>google list of adjectives
>class
>google X letter boy/girl names, where X is the amount of characters you have left
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>>172152337
Nothing Personnel
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>>172152337
Ashen One
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>>172152012
Close but no cigar
>WoB and BS merged into Brothers in Arms
>Beacon item
>activating it while alone in your world makes you eligible to be summoned by other BiA for help
>activating it with phantoms in your world calls other BiA to your aid

>Darkmoons get blue eye orb
>instead of needing both the boss to be alive and the host to be embered to invade, DMB only needs one to invade sinners
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>>172152337
rolling
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Well I just black crystal'd all 5
red eye orbs I got because everyone was a gank squad what a shit game
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>>172151857
actually, what are some of your favorite builds currently? i'm curious as to what works
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>>172152324
Oh. Thought it was a male face
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>>172152337
Jacky Mao
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>>172152012
The biggest problem I see with the Blue Eye Orb working that way is that covenants are very easy to switch between. It would be too easy to avoid getting invaded.
There's also the issue with Rosaria's so rarely being used, since it's more or less redundant.
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>>172152337
Hugh G. Rection
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>>172151315
You can usually proc the frostbite in one or two hits unless they're resistant. It's wonderful.
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>>172151937
>Friede didn't fuck that
She has high standards
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>>172152761
There are no male/female faces in DaS3 technically. The sliders work exactly the same either way.
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>>172152880
Friede needs a real man, not some hollow lanklet with a sexy voice
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>>172152880
>Friede didn't fuck that
Says who?
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>>172152880
>Vilhelm is eternally cucked by his own beautiful face drying Elfriedes panties right up in spite of his majestic gravelly voice

Truly being Vilhelm is suffering.
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>>172153057
But the only things Friede fucks are lanky bird men
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>>172153198
me
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>You will never fuck Friede anal doggystyle in the attic while Vilhelm has to bring Ariandel his flail while listening
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>>172151615
cheaters*
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>>172153198
>tfw you will never fuck Vilhelm
Just
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do Dorkmoons work yet?
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>>172153306
Nice
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>>172144230
>Why are DaS 2 & 3 so much worse than DaS1 despite being more polished in general?

Dark Souls 1 assets (3D models, sound effects, gameplay engine, stats engine, graphics, animations) re-used from Demon Souls, meaning that from day 1 it was already ~20-30% finished.

It had the full weight of the company behind it, since Bandai Namco had an exclusive contract with From at the time and were able to delay Armored Core V for 2 years (original release was supposed to be fall 2010) to put the entire company onto DS1.

For some reason, the graphics team made insanely high resolution textures for everything, so with DSfix to unlock the resolution from the default PS3 720p, it looks way better now than it did at launch.

Yet, despite that, it was still rushed and unfinished (and required day 1 patches to fix game breaking bugs). The DS1 you see today didn't really exist until 2012, meaning it had 3 years of straight development and improvement behind it from the entire company.
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>>172153306
>she'll never give you a teasing footjob.
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Does Vordts need anything other than it's base stats to proc frostbite? Like is it a luck thing or shall i try it out on my pure str build?
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>>172153510

>DS2
Dark Souls 2 was made alongside bloodborne and Armored Core V, featuring only a fraction of the total staff. It was supposed to be a much larger, much more ambitious game despite that, and the director, Tomohiro Shibuya, (according to the DS2 design works) had the original game engine running with a few completed levels, but had to be trashed. Part of this is because Bandai namco did not want DS2 to compete with bloodborne,so they asked that the game be downgraded graphically to run on the PS3, instead of the PS4. After ACV launched in 2012, Yui Tanimura came over to take over the directing job for the last year of DS2 development, starting the level design and graphics from scratch. Only Lost Bastille, Forest of Fallen Giants, Drangleic Castle, Dragon Aerie, and Aldia's keep were completed as of 2012, from what it looks like with the demo.

Additionally, unlike dark souls 1, it had COMPLETELY NEW ASSETS. New animations were done with motion capture. It also had twice as many items and weapons, new stats added in, and twice as many areas and bosses. The sheer size of the game doomed it from the start, since unlike DS1 they didn't have an entire previous set of assets to re-use.

Despite this, it was still limited by running on the dark souls 1 engine (PS3-era phyre engine) so even if it was a newer game, it couldn't be better than DS1 graphically without having years of more development time. So instead of improving textures and lighting, they instead used Havok to get cloth and water physics added.
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>>172150706
bump
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Can anyone post desert sorcerer set in dlc2?i know someone saved it
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>>172153510
>>172153626

>DS3
DS3 is the first game to be released after the company restructured from being bought out by Kadokawa. During this buyout, many of the DS2/ACV/ACVD developers were fired and an entirely new team was hired on. Miyazaki was also promoted to president and was much busier in general (with less active involvement of the game). Additionally, DS3's engine (PS4-era Phyre engine, same as bloodborne) had to be adjustd to work on XB1 and PC.

So not only was the game a bit compromised from relying so heavily on bloodborne assets, but the team was completely new and created what was a much more "traditional" AAA title game with a standardized marketing plan. It was also one of the first times the company has done a "direct sequel" with re-occuring characters, so it had far less original ideas than DS1 or DS2 had. This means a lot of the quirks from DS1 was missing, while a lot of the size and scope from DS2 was missing, and the game doesn't improve on those features because it's a new team.

Recap
>DS1 is a game that had 3 years to go from 30% finished to 90% finished, with the full weight of the company and team experience behind it.
>DS2 is a game that had 1.5 years to go from 0% to 200% finished, since it was so much larger than DS1 in terms of content. They had half the staff as DS1 to do it, also, since BB was taking up resources.
>DS3 is a game that had 2 years to go from 10% to 80% finished, since it was both smaller and had twice the staff to do it, despite that staff being made up of entirely new people.
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Reminder that Vilhelm was originally conceptualized as a dual-wielding swordswoman.
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>Blackflame Friede
Oh god what
Why is she so fucking edgy?
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>>172153697
nah man
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Great game.
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>>172153697
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>>172152676
Not everyone wants to be summoned though, and since there are already two separate covenant items, they might as well keep them both in and add functionality depending on play style.
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>>172149461
>GFS
Am I being rused?
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>>172153752

iamverysmart
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>>172141480
Is it better to use health regen or mana regen for pyro builds on caestus for Pyromancers?
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>>172141480
I am pleased with 1.11
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>>172152676
>>172154109
They just need something like "Large" and "Small" Blue symbols. People with Large symbols can summon and be summoned by anyone else with a Large symbol, people with Small symbols can only summon people using Large symbols but are never summoned themselves.
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>>172153883
damn it looked fun for a moment

>>172153979
weird boobs but damn
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>>172154295
What's wrong with GFS?
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>>172153806
She has a lot of free time to watch anime.
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>>172153510
>>172153626
>>172153752
An actual informative post, nice.
It seems like what hurt the sequels more than anything else is the fact that there's never been a consistent lineup of people working on them. I would assume that's also why there's never been a game that was a straight improvement over the others, it's always been a new team that really couldn't have learned from mistakes they never made.
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>>172154430
BFS are better.
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>>172154397
Here's the normal pose.
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>>172149854
What is the worst part of the game for you? DeS is worse if you care about certain things, like the cohesiveness of the world (each archstone is its own world, DS1 is a connected world throughout the game) or boss mechanics (DeS bosses suck, worst in the series).

The main thing about DeS is that it's unpolished and much, much harder than other games in the franchise if you don't know what you're doing.

However the level design and atmosphere of each level is far better than anything else in the franchise, the single-player focus allows it to get away with progression that wouldn't work in a multiplayer game, etc.

DS1 is a better production quality but it's got a lot of bullshit that restricts what players can do and gives you less control over how the game works (like having basically 1 progression path, a lot of useless infusions, etc.)
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Deacons are a really easy boss, but FUCK I really like it.

Amazing music (especially when the Archdeacon and his fat choir boys show up) and the Deacons are pretty creepy and menacing when they all rise together in that sort of congregation formation at the beginning of the fight.
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>>172154109
if you don't want to be summoned, don't use the beacon while alone in the world, what the fuck
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>>172154575
What weapon is that?
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>>172154635
sometimes difficulty isn't everything.
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>>172154609
>The main thing about DeS is that it's unpolished and much, much harder than other games in the franchise if you don't know what you're doing.

Not at all. If anything, it's incredibly hard to not break the game.
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>>172143627
Just run past them
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>>172154607
Is this on par with chest size of most other female torso pieces, or is it doing the DS2 thing where equipping it gives you an instant magic boob job?
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>>172153510
>Dark Souls 1 assets (3D models, sound effects, gameplay engine, stats engine, graphics, animations) re-used from Demon Souls
Aside from engine related things that is flat out wrong. There are no art assets reused from DeS aside from a few animations (namely lever pulling or other "activation" style animations). There are, however a good deal of unused leftovers that have been found in DaS1 I rarely see talked about besides the crystal lizard.
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>>172154607
what does it look like on males?
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>>172154740
Oh, absolutely. Someone always seems to bring up their difficulty, so I just wanted to get that out of the way.
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>Checked the ringed city armor on the wiki
>It's all fucking hideous
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>>172154635
Same, I've always thought the fight looked cool.
It is a pretty lame fight outside of that, but at least they got one thing right about it.
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>>172149006
tfw nz steam used to use US prices, convert it to NZD (roughly 1.8x the price), but still charge in USD.
So a game that was 40 USD ended up being sold for 72 USD. It was fucking retarded.
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What the fuck is wrong with her eyes? Is she falling to beasthood?
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>>172146891
what the fuk was this about?
i still can't even.
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>>172154940
>t.artorias darksword user
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>>172146860
Did you break the bridge and go down?
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Is this worth rebuying on PC? I bought it at lauch on Xbox with the season pass.
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>>172155273
Well if you actually want to get invaded or find summons then go right ahead.
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>>172155456
Addendum: invaded by hackers
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>yfw you can't riposte people wearing the Ringed Knight Armor chestpiece since you just stab the black hole in the chest
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>>172154515
>It seems like what hurt the sequels more than anything else is the fact that there's never been a consistent lineup of people working on them.

Basically you're talking about From Soft from 1999 to 2005, pre-miyazaki. There was a consistent team of all-stars (Yui Tanimura, Toshifumi Nabeshima, Yasuyoshi Karasawa, Shoji Kawamori, etc.) and they were focusing entirely on one platform (PS1/PS2) and self-publishing their own games (no bullshit like Bandai Namco). They had a "no questions asked" publisher for EU and US (505 games and Agetec) who let them get away with whatever they wanted.

Back then they were putting out 2-3 games a year, some of which were massive dual-disc console games with an in-house rock band to make OSTs, and their games sold really well for the company size. Armored Core 2 sold 700,000 copies on a single platform, for example, and was a greatest hits and launch title for the PS2. There were LAN parties and worldwide fighting tournaments for AC back then.

What killed that was transitioning to the PS3. Agetec and 505 games didn't have distribution networks for the PS3 and was in the process of dropping support for the platform, and the company was struggling to pay for the (then) very expensive PS3 dev kits. This means they missed out on releasing a PS3 launch title and had no PS3 games until Sega picked up the company and got an exclusive publishing contract for making "multiplayer shooter 360 games for the US market". This is what started the long trend of publisher abuse (Sega, Ubisoft, Sony, Bandai Namco) that they have been dealing with ever since, and they have not been an independent developer since then, therefore all of their games (including souls) were compromised by whomever the publisher wanted to put in charge of the project.
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Are straight swords still cancer or can I use one without feeling judged?
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>>172154373
Poison barely improved
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>>172155512
>mfw
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>>172155507
Only if you play at chinks hours. The most cheaters I saw in a night was at meta level and russian/chinks hours.
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>>172155273
If you have a good PC, then maybe. Also, get TFF Edition in April if you plan to rebuy it.
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>>172154376
But then you're depending on the person being invaded to see your sign and be able to summon. Summon times are already bad enough without being limited to one specific spot that you can be summoned at.
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>>172154987
That, and it's the one fight where the Farron greatsword 2HL1 is actually useful.
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Pure pyro vs str pyro?
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>show your humanity

What does it mean?
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does anyone have the imgur album that has all of the ringed city weapons/their requirements
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>>172155725
Will TFF be cheaper or just 60 but with all DLC?
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>>172155676
I am not a man
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>>172154815
A lot of sound effects, moveset animations, character models and item usage animations are copied from DeS too

I also think it's funny that DeS copied the graphical effects for cutscenes from armored core 4 and For answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3SsyxRqv5E&

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfCO7ihxZlY
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Why do people shit on Das2 when it had the best mechanic in the whole series(beside bb)?
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>>172149749
>remember that you killed him over some dark magic
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>>172154827
Recruited a pal here.
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>>172155838
Dex pyro for that casting speed
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>>172154701
Some people just want to PvE and not be summoned, but still get help. Some want to be summoned and be able to summon help. Some people just want to be summoned/invade sinners. This way satisfies all that without adding any new items (other than a BEO that should already be in the game) it just tweaks the way the covenant items work. There's no reason to have DMB and BS be exactly the same.
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>>172156095
Is that Hawkwood?
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>>172156095
>that body
>those knees
Ew, dude.
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>*teleports behind you*
>*cuts your throat*
Tanimura-san was a mistake.
>>
I'm playing through in 4K and it's making me appreciate the detail put into some of the items

Northern Armour helmet looks glorious
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>>172155991
Which mechanic? Regardless, I don't think anyone is going to try to argue against the fact that 2 had some nice ideas, regardless of how much you do or don't like the game as a whole.
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>>172155547
Not trying to be an ass or anything but where are you getting this info from?
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>>172155991
Because a lot of people want to play the game for the emotional experience, not the game mechanics. DS2 is a case where a solid set of balanced mechanics was made pointless by having nothing interesting to -do- with those mechanics.

I still think the best souls game would be DeS level design, DS2 mechanics, DS1 world map, BB story/cutscenes/graphics and DS3 bosses.
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>>172155896
I don't think they announced the price.
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>>172156110
O i didn't consider that. What spread would i be looking at? 25/25 int fth+40 dex?
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>>172156295
48 euro in Europe here
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>>172156241
>rat covernant
>powerstance
>magic/hexes being viable
>shittone of things to fuck around in pvp
>build variety
>best ng+
Just to name a few things.
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>cathedral knight set can potentially poise through a greathammer 2H R1 with a greathammer 2H R1
I knew 42 vit was worth it
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>The DLC will be unlocked in 12 hours
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Dark Souls 1 = Zombies
Dark Souls 2 = Fat knights
Dark Souls 3 = Screaming retards and tall thin knights

>>172155991
2 is the one I've replayed the most. The only reason BB doesn't have that honor is load times and frame rates.
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>>172156543
fucking liar
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>>172155754
I mean the same kind of babysitter "summoning" we have now, where it's automatic.
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>>172156482
>waifufag gets what they deserve .webm
Why did they need to make the great mace a palletswap of vordt's? The only serious difference is that you can buff it at the cost of losing the built-in frost, they should have given it the landmine weaponart.
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>>172156095
damn, hawkwood is old
>>172156124
then use the beacon when invaded. did you not read the post? there's no reason for dmb to help with invaders when bs does that, you can access dmb strictly after bs and and you can change covenants on the fly.
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>>172156251
I've been a huge fan since then, I don't remember all the sources but most of it is from press releases or interviewed from 10 years ago back when the company was releasing AC last raven and explained how it was the last armored core game.

You can check the publisher trends and sales numbers easily though. From was an independent self publisher before the PS3. There's also little things like how Armored Core 4 (miyazaki's game) is actually based on the PS2 game engine minus a lot of the subtle improvements made during AC nexus (no boost accel, for example) that shows how the company had to scale back complexity on the PS3 in favor of graphics

A large reason why Armored Core 4 is pretty much entirely set in a desert is because it was easier to develop wide open boring levels than to develop closed internal rooms like the prior games had, etc.

It's a lot of little game details that all add up to the big picture of From having a super rough transition to the PS3 and relying on third party publishers like sega and ubisoft to get through it
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>>172151495
That's not what I asked you fucking meme shitter
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>>172156543
you confuse me
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>>172156482
>not blessed weapon
abysmal cosplay lad
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>>172156287
>a solid set of balanced mechanics

>a parry doesn't knock an enemy's weapon away, it knocks them on their arse and you have to wait several seconds before you can riposte while other enemies are probably wailing on you all the while
>a backstab isn't a backstab, it's a fucking pommel bash
>you have to level a whole separate stat to be able to dodge anything
>enemies despawn after you've killed them a few times, never to return unless you use an item that makes everything in the area an NG+ harder
>SOUL FUCKING MEMORY
What the fuck are you smoking?
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>>172156762
you think the new restructuring is a good thing?
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Do people expect the new DLC to be good or just as mob/infinite stamina spam-heavy and mediocre as the painted world DLC?
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>>172156594
In PDT/PST, currently what time and day is it? Maybe I'm fucking retarded, but today seems to be the 26th of March, 1:30 PM PDT/PST.
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>>172156937
I liked Friede, so the bosses are still good
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>>172156552
DS2 has more longevity due to better viability of customization, more varied progression paths through the game, better NG+ content, and runs better on laptop hardware so you can play it on the go
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>>172156737
I kind of like that, even as an invader I don't have to chase down every single host scrambling to look for a blue sign. They already do it enough looking for white and yellow. WoB people also can't count on a BS coming to their rescue, so they're probably more likely to fight the red at least until the blue zones in.
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Spoil me on the ringed city lads
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>>172156353
Never played with this build so maybe an expert can come tell me this is shit
I'd personally go all int instead of faith but get the minimum requirement faith for whatever pyromancies you want to use.
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>>172156909
>you have to level a whole separate stat to be able to dodge anything
You have to level a stat to wear gear, to wield a shield, to do fucking anything in Dark Souls. Why is roll exempt from a stat?

Not that it's a great idea but it's no worse than all the other gay RPG bullshit in Souls
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>>172156909
>you have to level a whole separate stat to be able to dodge anything
>SOUL FUCKING MEMORY
You must sucks at souls game. You probably need the enemie respawn thing.
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>>172156949
WE DID IT PS4 BROS
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>>172156741
because fuck creativity

>>172156849
it's a metacosplay; I'm cosplaying a pre-patch cathederal knight cosplayer, back when blessed weapon was blue
If I had 66 str I'd use BW, but I don't have strong enough a base AR for it to compete with resin + replenishment, or even just replenishment for that matter
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>>172157086
Gael eats the Dark Soul and presumably becomes Guts in the final boss, before possibly turning into an incomprehensible horror of reality.
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Uh why does cleric start with force? what the fuck kind of meme shit is this? Where is my spear?
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>>172156909
>despawn after you've killed them a few times
You had to kill a particular enemy like 15 times for them to stop respawning. I can't recall a single instance of that happening to me while playing DS2 with the exception of farming ruin sentinels in drangleic castle for their armor.
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>>172157086
The final boss is a literal who
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>>172150094
Yes please, might be too late with the reply though
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How do I improve on the fashion, as well as maybe more alternative utility weapons?
Extra shortbow in right hand, as well as simple and blessed parrying dagger in offhand. Bandit knife is bleed as well.
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>>172157272
it's probably the best thing you've got as far as dealing with twinks goes
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Anyone on PS4 who got the season pass have Ringed City in their add-ons section yet? I don't and I'm wondering if that's a problem or not.
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>>172157272
Lightning spear requires 20 faith to use. It's also fucking trash at all faith levels because it hardly does any damage.
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>>172157281
>I can't recall a single instance of that happening
>with the exception of
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>>172157159

>PC is already playing with DLC weapons
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>>172157272
Force is one of the best miracle spells.
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>>172154326
Please help me elite dsgers
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Can someone explaine me why coc is considert a good boss? Is it because people like memes? Hes mountain dew mlg meme tier boss.
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>>172157407
Stop skipping leg day
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>>172154326
>caestus
>pyromancers
Yeah, no.
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>>172141480
Whats caps for pyro damage?
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>>172149961
It's not happening man. Please stop posting this
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>>172156909
>he thinks that animations are mechanics

DS2 backstabs are awesome mechanically. You have a "check" window that makes backstab fishing with heavy weapons no longer viable, but still lets you do it with light weapons. Just because the animation looks stupid doesn't make the mechanic bad.

Same with parrying and shield breaking in DS2. It gives you a vulnerability state (just like boss parries in DS1!) to hardswap and hit-check with.

Bonfire ascetic and enemy despawning makes complete sense mechanically. It prevents you from farming infinite items to gank people and raises the game's difficulty for higher rewards (like DeS world tendency).

Decoupling stamina, stamina regen, roll distance, and roll iframes from each other (in DS1 they're all based on 1 stat, in DS2 they're based on multiple stats, and not the same ones, aka, ADP and ATT) was a way to vary speeds of combat so people couldn't just memorize frame-perfect bullshit like DS1, and had to actually track people and think. DS3 did that better though, with charged R2s and more wild hitboxes, but the idea is still better than DS1.

DS2 makes sense mechanically, it doesn't make sense story wise or as a game experience
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What happens if you stick your finger in a darksign?
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>>172149989
I really, really hope it'll be an effect we can wear permanently, I want to cosplay as one of those fatfucks so badly like holy shit, especially with the dumb as fuck jumping belly slam attack WA.
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>>172157560
Health. You shouldn't be getting hit a lot anyway, but if you do get hit, you want to conserve your estus for FP
>caestus
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>>172157454
Enemy despawns weren't a thing that actually happened to anyone under any normal circumstances, and there was a covenant that circumvented the mechanic entirely. I don't see why you would cite it as a major problem with the game at all.
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Would someone share a fun dex/int build with me please?
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FUCK can't decide between the edgemeister and the A E S T H E T I C mark
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>>172157572
I know who you meant, but now I want a boss where the CoC gravestone appears, grows arms, and beats you to death with the Vanquisher's Seal.
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I haven't played in a while. Are split damage weapons (specifically Friedes Great Scythe) still unreasonably shitty?
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>>172154326
depends on what you're doing with the pyro

for invasions simple infusion is generally better because you can regenerate enough FP to run away use a chime weaponart, which heals you far faster than a blessed infused weapon would even if your weapon was +10 and lasts long enough for you to regenerate all the FP it costs

for PvP where you're gonna be stocked up on blue flasks, just use HP regen. Even if you slowly regenerate some mana, your flasks are usualyl going to hit the top of your FP bar even if you have 30 attunement, so you don't really gain any FP
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is this any good for a strength build?
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>>172151178
Haha, I figured it out. Because the set Spear of the Church uses only has three parts, they put three pieces of gear in his CharInit entry, but what they ended up doing was putting in the (nonexistent) helmet, the chest, and the gloves.

So they did actively fuck it up. Wonder if they'll catch it next patch or this will be wrong forever.
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>>172157812

I think DS2 was a shit game but it did have some good ideas. Despawning enemies wasn't one of them.
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>>172157823
Nothing. It just tickles a little.
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>>172157896
>125
Out.
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>>172157881
no, they were never really shitty to begin with

frost buildup got buffed
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>>172157415
>>172157512
How is a kick that costs mana good?

>>172157448
That's disappointing, is faith all shit? Maybe i'll start sorcerer or pyromancer instead
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>>172157838
I was citing it as a counterexample against "muh superior mechanics", not as a major problem. It's dumb, but not a dealbreaker.
There's enough minor dumb shit that it makes a dealbreaker collectively for me though
BUT
THAT'S
JUST
MY
OPINION
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>>172149989
is there info how does one equip this effect? its hex id or something?
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>>172157405
i puth the red sign at High Wall bonfire, pass is mask
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>>172157474
*hackers
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>>172149961
No one knows. Try doing the dlcs and see if that changes aldia or something or get summoned to someone elses world to do nash
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>>172156936
Depends.

On the one hand, I'm glad to see them actually with a large staff making more than one game at a time, and it will give them leverage to work with more than one publisher.

On the other hand, a lot of the quirks are being "smoothed out" in pursuit of AAA profits, because now the shareholders have control, not the developers or even the publishers. So there are probably going to be a lot less risks taken (DS3 is already a lot less creatively risky than any prior game they made, relying entirely on prior game story and giving players fewer options to fuck up their game progression).

I feel like future From Soft games are going to be high quality, fun, worth buying, interesting, etc. but there will always be an itch at how they lost the "spark" of what they used to make. No creative risks, less passion, etc. The games will become better, but more disposable as art.

A good comparison would be something like comparing the first assassin's creed or dead space to their sequels, or morrowind to skyrim, etc.
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>mfw Dark Souls 3 spams enemies more than 2 ever did
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>>172157979
damn, i wanna fug karla
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>>172151937
I would fuck that girl (male)
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>>172158191
Neither of those is Karla, or even wearing her set
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>>172153552
PAINTERLOLI IS NOT FOR LEWDS
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About to do the dlc on a sl80, anyone care to join me? Don't really need help but some company would be nice.
ps4, pass dsg, 1st bonfire.
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>>172157982
If bonfire ascetic didn't exist, I would agree with you.

Despawning enemies is white world tendency: game gets easier the more times you kill the enemies, but the rewards are lower.

Bonfire ascetics is black world tendency. Game gets harder, but the rewards are much higher.

I think the main reason people hate it is because it's not obvious that the two are related so much. They seem like separate mechanics, when in reality enemy drop rates are tied directly to the number of respawns and are RESET when you use bonfire ascetic (but not with Covenant of champions).
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>>172158115
>How is a kick that costs mana good?
Guard breaking, or flat out knocking a dude off a ledge. Force is amazing
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>>172158325
i know
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>>172157979
why does kriemhild wear the firekeeper set?
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>>172158182
What.
Examples.
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>>172158182
Not as bad because you can spam attacks far more. In DS1 if you had 4 enemies coming at you, you had to kill them all in 2-3 attacks or less or you would run out of stamina and get staggered to death.
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>>172158115
It's a kick that's 360 degrees, you can also influence where people will be sent flying. Stop trying to force the idea that Force is bad, just try it out.
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God fucking damnit.
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>>172158115
Some people swear that faith is good, maybe they're right. Based on my personal experience of taking a faith build through pve up to NG+2 and doing a tiny bit of pvp, it's not very enjoyable and your main source of damage is terribly unrewarding for the amount of effort and risk involved to get a hit in.

It's also a really shitty slog until you get to like SL 80+ because faith scaling hardly kicks in at all until you're over 40 and heading towards the 60 softcap, which you need more than sorcery or pyromancy because of how lacking in damage offensive miracles are.
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>>172158457
Something about being a failed Firekeeper who's champion never came around I think
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>>172157861
they both look like shit so pick the edgy one because it's funnier that way.
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>>172157893
When you say pvp do you mean arena?
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>>172158182
The whole "spam enemy" thing is kind of silly, really. 1 had encounters like that as early as the Undead Parish.
It doesn't feel as hellish in 3, for me at least, since you have such a greater amount of mobility than you did in 2 or 1. There were several places that I didn't even register as feeling "swarmed" at first, but would have been a huge headache in either of the previous games.
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>>172157896
66 or bust. Tick up your strength levels and watch the AR of something like the exile greatsword rise. Going up 4 levels from 54 to 60 gives 13 AR, but going to 66 up from 60 gives 20. Going past 40 but not hitting 66 is eating all your vegetables and skipping desert. I guess some weapons actually require 50 str, but still, I'd personally reccomend having a 66 str build for leaf halberd+exile since they have shit poise anyway, and a 40 str build with high poise for things like greathammers. No fucking clue how poise works out with the doors though.

>>172158002
he'd at least save 4 levels if he used +2 rings, and his dex investment isn't doing anything in most cases
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>>172158475
Painted World. Lothric Castle.

>>172158542
Eh, late game enemies aren't going to stagger as much so you're still stuck with the old kite and pick off strategy, same as every other Souls cuz you sure as shit can't trade
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Is the Immolation Tinder any good?
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Are straight swords the best class in the game?
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>>172157692
>>172157834
How else am i supposed to parry?

Also how the hell am I supposed to stay under 30% weight?
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>>172158687
yeah, or even just fightclubs, but mages do a lot better in the arena
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>>172158393

I see where you're coming from but I just don't think it works. Especially since CoC fills that role better than Ascetics. Infinite spawning enemies that are a set level stronger than normal, instead of increasing every 15 kills. And let's be honest, there are times where you need multiple ascetics if you want to farm a full set of armor. I had to kills hundreds of Heide knights to get theirs, without CoC it would have been a fucking impossibility.

Same with those armors that only had a small chance of dropping from enemies that invade you once per NG cycle. There's difficulty and then there's simply trying too hard. That's a problem I felt DS2 suffered from a lot, trying to live up to DS1's "difficulty" instead of just doing it's own thing, exemplified by the old ladies in the very beginning saying basically, "you're gonna die a lot lol just like those facebook posts you saw about DS1 prepare to die remember that? xD"
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>>172158816
Yes, it's also good for Sorceries, especially Flashsword spells due to the extra range.
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>>172158743
i don't want to go to NG+ though
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wtf from
"You dont have a license to use this content"
Back to main menu
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>>172159043
hope you backed up your save
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>>172158172
to be fair miyazaki did say the next new ip he's working on is going to be weird so you never know.
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>>172158182
What do people even mean about this whole 'multiple enemies are attacking me, this is shit' thing? Every game has its share of stronger enemies that you really don't want to engage at the same time, but those are almost always avoidable in some way to make it a 1v1.

Having a mob of hollow soldiers or something come at you in DS1/2/3 is nothing to be concerned about as long as you have at least a basic grasp of the combat mechanics. Worst case scenario you're playing a build that can't deal with it as well as others, but that can be the case with just about anything for any build across the span of any of these games at some point.
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>>172159043

back to meristation with you filthy spic
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>>172158902
I think that problem is with the drop rates of certain items though, not with the mechanics themselves. Another "good mechanic, but nothing good to really use that mechanic for" issue. I think the intent was that you weren't supposed to really farm for items in the first place anyway, unless you were super-desperate. Had drop rates been twice as good as they were (and had there been no drops that required 1 time phantoms, like the painting guardian set), it would have been fine.

I completely agree with the "PREPARE TO DIE" nonsense that bandai kept pushing throughout DS2 though.
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>>172158823
With one weapon I would prefer a greatsword, but sword and board is definitely the best as long as you have a stable midshield. Curved swords probably had the best matchup against it, but they've since been nerfed. If you're using a low tier weapon it isn't going to feel any more OP than a spear or washing pole, and crossbow spam might even look more OP, but if you use any of those top tier weapons against someone with a SS and midshield you're gonna eat shit.
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>>172158823
Ultragreatswords are the best class in the game for insecure fags that want to compensate for their small penis with a huge as FUG sword.
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I think my female characters look ok from an angle, but I'm pretty sure it's fucking impossible to create qts in this game
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>>172159010
I just meant that your extra levels were mitigated by the fact that you hadn't
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>>172159374
Were you trying to recreate that insufferable and awful actress from the jewjew abrams star wars movie?
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>>172159374
She looks like an angry lesbian.
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>>172159374
> I'm pretty sure it's fucking impossible to create qts in this game
Weakling
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>>172158865
>How else am i supposed to parry?
You're a fucking pyromancer.

>how the hell am I supposed to stay under 30% weight?
By wearing clothing and not using weapons, you double hollow.
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>>172159216
there's 3 games, an AC reboot, a dark fantasy new IP, and "something completely different".
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>>172156949
Isn't that just the deployment time for the 1.12 patch ?
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>>172157405
>>172158161
can't wait any longer, sorry
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>>172158758
>Painted World. Lothric Castle.
Are you fucking serious? Neither of those places set you against throngs of mobs that aggro simultaneously if you try to pull one at a time.
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>>172159343
>confirmed katana and straight sword user
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>>172158393
Well, they are separate mechanics because CoC exists and both makes enemies easier to kill than fighting their NG+ versions and has infinite "uses", even if ascetics make it faster, it's not worth their use.

Ascetics don't exist to control difficulty or farm CoC farmable mobs faster, they are used mostly to reach NG+ exclusive content or reset non respawning enemies, which is completely unrelated to what most enemies are.
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>>172159374
It takes some practice, you need to sorta just find the problems in the creator then convince yourself that they're just beauty points
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>>172159505
What the fuck
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tfw hatemail
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>>172159521
I'm only holding a small straight sword. Some things are immune to fire and poison
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>>172159543
The 1.12 patch is what unlocks the DLC, anon
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>>172159523
what if the "something completely different". is a monster girl dating sim where you play as Kirk
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>>172159681
Wtf
She looks like my aunt had a retarded sister
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>>172159749
I BAN HIM
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>>172159653
Well if you're being that specific neither does 2.
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the Wolf Ring ever worth it now?
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>>172159374

>it's fucking impossible to create qts in this game

What?

Ignore the piss colored hair, making blonde hair is what's actually fucking impossible in this game
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Can someone drop me some souls? I need to get my character from SL90 to SL120 and I've been farming souls for hours now.

I'm SL105 right now, PC.
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>>172159521
This. Reminder that you are not rolling a "pyromancer", just a knight dude who can use pyromancies, unless:

- You wear the full Conjurator set
- Double Flames
- Whip and Hand Axe as side weapons
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>>172159681
What the fuck
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>>172158895
What? How does magic do well in arena? I thought magic was weak in pvp?
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>>172159750
>Some things are immune to fire and poison

you hurl dark orbs and black flame at those things
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>>172159782
>>172159930
hey that's mean
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>>172159653
Hey, if you run through those areas and stop to fight everything you aggro'd, then it might as bad as all of DS2's mob encounters.
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>>172159889
If someone can do it for him can they do it for me too?
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>>172159749
Stay strong Donny!
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>>172159778
Well they did make monster hunter diaries...

Though since they're a company that has basically only 2 genres (western style mechs and dark fantasy melee) "something different" could mean something that's just a slight variation on what exists, like a hack and slash focused souls game or a VR armored core.
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>>172159960
>>172159903

I just killed old demon king. I only have one Pyro glove.
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>>172159874
Maybe bright/platinum blonde hair is messed up, but darker blonde still looks okay I think.
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>>172159749
It's depressing that there are actually people like this playing, and they're probably the majority.
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>>172159238
When 2 was released, one of the common criticisms was that there was an abundance of encounters where a bunch of enemies just rushed you all at once. Like the one doorway in the Lost Bastille where you walk in and almost immediately aggro 5 Royal Guardsmen.
People found it annoying, and it was cool to hate on 2 for a while, so they (in my opinion) blew it out somewhat of proportion.
Fast-forward to 3, and there are a lot of situations where you are also faced with a lot of enemies at once, like with the wolves in Ariandel. It's similar in concept, but since people don't complain about it nearly on the level that they did in 2, people want to bring it to light.

You're right, though, facing down multiple enemies is not really difficult to anyone that knows what they're doing. It is, however, annoying depending on who you're talking to.
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>>172159931
I just meant that it does better in the arena than in a fightclub. Everyone's unembered, so nukes pose a bigger threat since they get kill potential far earlier. Also, anything that gives you access to a lot of regen is good, especially in the arena where you don't get the 30% vig bonus since regen is a flat rate.
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>>172148090
>tfw you get sumoned for a boss, and die early due to some stupid mistake so you go to leave your sign at another boss instead so you don't have to face that host ever again
S-sorry
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>>172159749
What did you do? Did he summon you as a grape or something?
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>>172159874
>>172159681
>>172159374
Stop playing female characters you fucking faggots. Are you gay?
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>>172160128
punch stuff with dark hand, it has 0 weight and is good until late game.
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>>172160079
>only 2 genres
Anon...
Who's hyped for The Adventures of Cookie & Cream 2?
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>>172159653
Play the DLC. It sure as shit does.
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>>172156482
What's your build cathedralbro?
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>>172149928
Dark Souls is primarily a single player game.
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>>172160269
>>172159238
A lot of it was fueled by the marketing trying to push souls as the "hardest game ever". People were looking for excuses to be contrarian about that and pointed at a lot of points in DS2 where you got rushed by enemies.

It's mostly people who played DS1 and blamed themselves for mistakes, then went to DS2 and the game was -different- (slower, less estus, lower stamina) so they blamed the game for their mistakes instead now.
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>>172160269
>Like the one doorway in the Lost Bastille where you walk in and almost immediately aggro 5 Royal Guardsmen.
I'm seriously tired of fucking retards like this dipshit speaking on things they literally know nothing about and spreading false information.
It's like 7+ royal guardsman. 2 down in front and the 4+ from the side
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>>172160310
>tfw you get summoned by a boss that has two other phantoms already, there's a ton of gesturing and general japery beforehand
>and then the host dies to the first attack from the boss
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>>172160397

Did you just assumed my gender?
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>>172160301
>all that switching
I hate it. I wish you could bind each spell to a button.
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>>172159874
SLIDERS
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>haven't played ds1 in over a year
>was a master when I played all the time
>would do run through in 6 hours for fun
>play ds3 for a long time
>fight gargoyles today in das for first time in very long time
>die 5 times

Is dodging possible in this game? What the fuck
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>>172159678
DS2 drop rates get lower the more times you kill an enemy, CoC doesn't change that and also makes regular drops for awestone-dropping enemies even rarer. CoC is actually the slowest way to farm unless you have already despawned all the enemies and are out of bonfire ascetics.
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>>172160463
>Implying it wont be Echo night: extreme rocking chair simulator
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>>172160530
There are no girls on 4chan
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>>172159874
Blone hair works best with a lot of red in it. Try something like 255/190/80.
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>>172160465
But that's not either of those places
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When is this shit getting nerfed? Also would Bleed Infusion be better at +10? Because with 35 Luck and +6 it ain't really all that great.

Though offhand Poison Rotten Ghru Spear is cool for high intense pressure.
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DS3 GOTY better than DS1 goty?

I only played Bloodborne and DaS1
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>>172160671
>Painted World
>not the DLC
anon did you pirate DS3?
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>>172160379
I attacked him while he was fighting a single mob, when he had almost full health. I then properly dueled him after he ran all the way back to the bonfire to heal and try to summon
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>>172160521
> speaking on

I'm seriously tired of retards using phrases like "speaking on". What a braindead fucking stupid pseudointellectual thing to say.
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>>172160638
>Dodging in ds1
Haha. Use a shield.
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>>172159653
>Are you fucking serious? Neither of those places set you against throngs of mobs that aggro simultaneously if you try to pull one at a time.
ICE

CRABS
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>>172160470
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/157069

It's 125 cause I had to go up 5 levels for yuria at one point in time, but you could make it 120 if you ringswap priestess and sun princess while casting replenishment at the start of the match.

I used knight for the vit and because the base 12 dex lets me use the millwood greatbow. I've been playing around with the 4th ring a lot, if you equip havel's +2 you get enough to carry both the greatbow and the hammer. Or you could just slap priestess in there so that it's SL 120. The darkmoon ring is an option if you want both blessed weapon and replenishment.
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>>172160667

>That back

Woah mama can't wait to see that set on my character
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>>172160638
iframes are in the middle of the roll in ds1 iirc
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Does rolling in DaS 3 have significantly more i-frames than in previous games? I feel like it barely matters where I roll in this game, rather just when I roll.
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>>172160741
I seem to have caught retardation, sorry
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>>172160715
you cant put carthus rouge on it if you infuse it with bleed
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>>172159592
FUCK I was making breakfast, sorry for making you wait man, will be at my PC for the next 30-40 though if you still feel like helping a slacker
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Why is it always PCucks that think they make good looking characters when they literally always make downie retards?
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>>172160595

get your own waifu you double hollow
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>>172160959
It doesn't quite have as many i-frames as a DS2 roll with maxed out agility, but it isn't far off from that as a baseline.

Really the amount of i-frames is less of an issue compared to the sanic-fast stamina regen and tiny stamina cost of rolling.
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Post YFW when you kill host after Duty fulfilled.
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at what time tomorrow does the DLC come out?
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>>172159874
>>172160905
What does the character look like at an angle other than straight on?
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>>172160959
It's not that there's more iframes, but the iframes start right when you press roll, so you can just spam it and not get hit

In ds2 it was the same but there were several factors limiting iframes, and in ds1 they were in the middle of the animation
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>>172161114
In exactly 24 hours.
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>>172161069
Why do you care? Why do you get on a PC to bitch about "PCucks"?
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>>172160418
I like straight sword more than melee punches.
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Can anybody test the following please:
AR of Murakamo sharp infused 60 DEX
AR of Murakamo heavy infused 60 STR
And the same for Carthus Curved GS too please
AR of Murakamo is the same non infused and refined when 40/40, I want to know the above before I use a respec.

>>172160397
I am gay. But I'm a girl so I'm not a fag
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>>172159317
>Another "good mechanic, but nothing good to really use that mechanic for" issue
A different way to look at it is that it was a mechanic that worked fine in DS1 but that they fucked up for DS2 for the sake of "difficulty."

That more or less sums up my opinion on DS2. They fucked with a lot of what actually worked in DS1 for the sake of making DS2 harder, but did it in a way that made it less satisfying and/or more frustrating to play. Though they did actually manage to improve some things from DS1, like the rather pitiful variety of spells.
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>>172161203
you mean it doesn't unlock until monday evening?
fug
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>>172160959
I believe I read somewhere that the mid-roll in 3 has about the same i-frames as the fast (<25% equip load) in DS1.

Whats worse is that there are no more frames inbetween blocking and rolling. On my first playthrough I barely got hit by bosses once I figured that out. Another example of the deliberate casualization steps they took.
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>>172160983
Anon, I know that. I'm just curious how good the Bleed Infusion by itself is. I have 35 Luck since that's where I heard softcap for Bleed/Poison Increase is. Though I do guess I'd pull more damage on Quality+Rouge.

>>172161069
My character don't look like Downie retards. . . but Trans. I suck at character editing.
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>>172160397
playing male characters is gay
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>>172160269
Man i skipped a ton of bosses in the dlc areas during RTD because of all the mobs who jump you in every other room.

Like that one weeb boss with a pack of fucking npc invaders. Holy fuck. No thanks. Or even the bosses who are multiple bosses in ds2.
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>>172160595
he probably looks like shit from the side

>>172159874
>>172161092
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>>172161353
top qt desu senpai
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>>172161142
>in ds1 they were in the middle of the animation
No. No they did not start in the middle of the animation what the fuck are you talking about?!
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>>172161069
>implying she's a downie retard
Don't disrespect my waifu you fat lard
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>>172161252
>copy your save and put it somewhere else
>respec to test
>put your save back
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>>172160715
>spear
what? use the old wolf greatshield so you can just pop WA whenever
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>cleaning up in NG+ in preparation for playing TRC before progressing to NG+2
>checking inventory to make sure I have duplicates of everything
>somehow missed a Grass Crest Shield, probably in NG

My OCD would be triggered were it not for the fact that I don't even use that shield, and that I'll be getting a duplicate in NG+2 anyways.
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>not even a single one of the new boss themes has been leaked
WTF literally everything else has and not this?
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Anyone already tried out the treasure randomizer mod?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlSNtjqIEPY
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>>172161521
I meant that you're not immune to damage the moment you press roll in DS1, you have to time it.
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>>172161560
I though about this but I don't want to lose time. I'll do it anyway if I get no answer. Is mugenmonkey updated ?
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>>172159317
Eh, dude, the Demon Souls meme was "SO HARDCORE YOU'RE DEAD ON THE COVER."

This series from day one has been "hurr durr so hardcore" bullshit.

Yeah though the old ladies at the start were incredibly spot on and too cute in a game that had good writing otherwise.
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>>172161549
I'M BLUE, A DABBA DE DABA DIE, A DABBA DEEE DABA DIE, A DABBA DE DABA DIE
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>>172161607
Music and sound effects weren't inlcuded in the 1.11 patch.
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>>172161607
They patched in player assets, but not enemy and world assets yet.
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>>172161649
You are immune to damage the moment you release the roll button. It was so in DeS, it is so in DaS1.
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>>172161398
No. Pretending to be a girl is gay.
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>>172161592
So is the infini-spin the most cancerous thing ever discovered by PvP'ers?
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hey it's me, map is done besides from some later visual improvements i might do.
i was also thinking of making it an html thing where you can click on the hexes and it'll take you to wiki pages but that'll wait for another day.
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>>172161398
Exactly, this guy knows what's up.
Like, why would you want to look at another mans ass? Makes no sense.
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>>172161863
probably yeah, at least in DS3

this actually was in the game on launch, I can't believe they fucked up and let it come back
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>>172161607
It wasn't either for the first DLC.

>Friede boss theme in the trailer
>look for it everywhere before the DLC release date
>can't find it anywhere
>tfw finally listening to it once it's released

It'll be the same for this DLC, I will jizz in my pants if one of the unused tracks is used.

>>172161780
More like ultra white, but the skin turns blue in Irithyll
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>>172161252
Just use mugen
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>>172160883
Are you able to poise through pretty much everything with this?
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https://youtu.be/2sWOVVYzjA4
rate
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>>172161498
I'm sorry anon, I don't think she actually looks that cute in game. I swear in every game my character looks qt waifu in character edit and avatars but actually look worse in game. Just like real life.

>>172161592
It's for Poison Purpose. Though yeah, I should also off hand Curved Sword and add in LLoyld Sword Ring.

>>172159874
I want to use Sword of Avowal on her <3
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>>172161929

It's good, but I don't see the point. DaS3 isn't a big game with a lot of choices to make.
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>>172161929
Looks pretty good
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>>172162064
depends on what my poise health is at

Wit ha 2H GH R1, I can always poise through a 2HR1 or 1HR2 from a CGS, GA, or UGS, and if my poise is maxed I can poise through a 2HR1 or 1HR2 from a GH, ignoring exceptions like black knight weapons which sometimes have extra poise damage on their R2s
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>>172161491
>he probably looks like shit from the side
No response to several requests for sliders/pictures from other angles, so yeah, probably.
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Why were the parts and information about the DLC even uploaded in this patch? Why wouldn't they just release it all when the DLC actually comes out?
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>>172160521
This door, at 12:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHXsP9AFK0I
That's 5 guardsmen.
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is SL 80 a decent place to stop leveling for co-op and some pvp? i have a 120 quality for arena and a 30 for low/mid invasions.
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>>172162263
and I'm talking just about uncharged R2's, charging increases poise damage
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>>172162089
For christ's sake, just make the head larger
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>>172161929
You get Path of the Dragon from Consumed King's Garden, not Untended Graves.

You can probably save some space (and make it look a bit prettier) by using only Lothric's cinders for the Kiln warp, since it's assumed you'll have the other three in order to reach Lothric.

I think it would probably look better without the dotted lines, those just sort of look like clutter.

Maybe put a Dancer icon between High Wall and Lothric Castle?
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>>172162384
Yes, that's pretty much an ideal level to stop at for end-point NG boss co-op.
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hello
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>>172160463
sorry from makes 4 genres

>Giant Robots
>Medieval fantasy
>Weird PS1 Horror
>Shitty spin offs for other company's IPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z43NFPLuDm8
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>hear ultras and frost get buffed
>doing a vordt playthrough
>invaded by washdog
>he cleanly rolls through every swing while assraping me with a gs
Are ultras ever getting better? Baiting people into trading gets old real fast
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>>172162129
It's mainly to plot out the geography, which is incredibly consistent. For example, it makes sense that from Farron Keep you can climb and ladder up and see the other side of the bridge to Undead Settlement. You can get a similar effect if you ran the game in a model viewer, but this is just a 2D representation of that.
I made one for Dark Souls 1 3 years ago but it was an ugly mess since you'd really have to layer things on top of each other to convey the way areas are stacked in that game. Don't even think I have it on this computer.
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>>172162446
H-how.
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>>172162548
REDDIT
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Tell me more about the Dark Soul. Why is it so cool?
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>tfw we'll never meet Old Man McLoyf, Knight King Rendal or Allfather Lloyd.
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>>172162623
>>172162623
>>172162623
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>>172161863
There has been worse things in both dark souls 1 and 2.
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>>172161491

What the fuck did you just said about my wife

>>172162316

I was taking the pictures you double ghru
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>>172162787
What armour is that?
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>>172162893
Fire witch chestpiece
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>>172162787
Yep, looks like shit from the side.
>>172162893
Fire Witch.
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>>172162468
While that's technically the case, you've already dropped into Untended Graves (though you haven't seen the title card yet) once you get Path of Dragon.
Keeping the cinders because they tie the whole thing together if you were to use this as a reference sheet (and no one would because the game's been out for a year, but still).

The dotted lines are the part of this I'm most unhappy with aesthetically, but I couldn't think of a better way to convey that a key was required. Possibly a better way would be to place the object in a circle between two areas when it's required, and box the object in where it can be found, but that's less clear and takes up more space. (Or simply not show where it can be found altogether).
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>>172148283
>stealing from nier

nice
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>>172162787
blonde michael jackson/10
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>>172161929
Why would you make hexes when there's no area connecting to more than 4 areas in the game?
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>we're less than 24 hours away from the last influx of fresh Dark Souls memes
How are we feeling, lads?
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>>172156949
Source for these release times please?
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Is Saint Bident good yet?
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>>172162076
cheeki/breeki
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>>172160495
This

Well said. Dark Souls 1 had the benefit of players who were willing to own their mistakes. Dark Souls 2 was heavily attacked by insecure players who had been trounced by it. Dark Souls 2 was designed to fuck with people who had played DaS1. So the inevitable assdamaged babies who blame the game and not themselves were quite loud.
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>>172164842
nope
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>>172163162
Yeah I don't think the yellow/dotted line boxs are necessary. The images convey the info themselves.

Other than that, looks pretty good. I would maybe swap the bonfire icon with something Ringed City specific, and use the bonfire sword icon for the first warp since that's the key item you actually use.
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>>172164842
got a healthy boost from heavy being overall better, but don't expect it to be the best spear
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