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Heroes of the Storm General - /hots/

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Sleep tight zerger Edition

>What's new?

>Probius (shit), UI revamp (now LIVE)
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581816/
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581817/

>For Azeroth reactivated; get a WoW mount by playing Warcraft Assassins
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20532383/

> Two Heads Are Better Than One; get your free Cho'gall (if you haven't already)
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20602241/

>For new players:
https://youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Weekly Sale
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20626038/
>Current Weekly Brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20649608/
>Latest patch notes
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20581822/


>Hero Rankings, various Statistics, Talent Calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>Current Tier List
http://www.robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where do I find you Monstrosity Picking downies?
"/join /vg/" in game chat

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki


Previous Thread: >>171882962
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momentary death but we back online team
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W H E N
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After giving us such a shitty indev (only prob and ranked mount), I hope on Monday they will show something BIG! Especially because dark souls 3 will come as well :) I'm also wondering when we will hear about what happenes on the illuminati meeting on march 28 where all the streamers and hots famous people go.
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>>172079129
I mean the dlc for dark souls 3 of course.
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>>172079129
Indev won't be this monday, it will be next monday.
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>>172079409
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>>172079129
>>172079409
which one is it
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>>172080131

neither

game going into maintenance mode no more updates ever gg guys see ya later
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post your face when your favorite guy gets announced next week
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>>172079409
If we count the weeks after probius relase this week should be it on Monday, isn't it?
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>>172079039
>OG fenix
>Not the dragoon
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>>172080838
M-Maiev? Is t-that you?
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>We promise only one stealth hero per match!
>Valeera/Shitter rollerblade nova duo
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>Cydaea
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>>172081129
Imperius, Tichondrius, Mannoroth or tank Maiev

>>172081009
More recognizable to use a cinematic picture but yeah. Dragon please.

If they make him a robot nigger I'll crash this game with no survivors.
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Johanna
more like Flathanna
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>>172080838
My main concern is that if they do Kel'thuzad, they'd fuck him up somehow.

And this coming from someone who only has seen the WC3 cutscenes and his silly character in Hearthstone.
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>>172081443
s-source
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>waiting on hots of the dorm to end
I don't even remember which teams I picked.

>>172081570
>introducing the first evil support!
Just imagine.
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>>172081609
Evulchibi
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>>172081665
The fact that all supports are supposed to be pure and girly disgusts me
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>>172081896
>support=healer
>basically every team needs one

Like, I liked the idea of providing utility and "support" on characters like Blitz, Braum or Thresh.

But a Sona/Raka in every game on both teams is just...not a fan.
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>>172081896
>girly
>Kharazim, punches people to death
>Tassadar, melts people with lasers
>Rehgar, claws people
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>>172081869
you got a great taste anon...
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>>172081665
>the first evil support

AHEM
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>>172082830
i want your entire collection!!!
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>>172078808
>/hots/
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>watch Rich streams regularly
>start practicing Alarak
>learn how he plays him
>now MVP everygame
my fucking god, god bless that fat fuck for being so good at this game
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>>172082835
Yoh coh is under attahk
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>>172084147
MAH MAGIC FLOWS THRU THE TEMPOHS
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>>172084236
[inhale]

GAH
DEE
UNS
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when the fuck is cheerigan gonna be out?
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>>172084307

BRUTALIZE THEM
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>>172084359
When the Cuban Revolution update releases
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>>172084420
SUCH DARING

Angel is a doge memester
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>>172084071
y-you cant just tease me and leave me hanging!
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>remember today is some heroes of the dorm shit
>decide to check twitch
>nothing
>they're fucking streaming through facebook

like what the literal fuck? Why?
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>>172084721
why dont you just upload your entire folder on mega?
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>>172084958
I'd rather share it with you personally~

It's scattered all over the place
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Why do so many people dislike Blackhear's Bay?
I think the map is alright, the pirate themes mercenaries are cool, and Blackheart himself is pretty amusing.
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>>172085350
Because it's the biggest snowball in the entire game while also being really comp dependant.

If you ever fall behind and the enemy plays properly there's no chance of you ever coming back.
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>>172083704
Give link please, I wanna get better at alarak
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>>172085609
>the biggest snowball in the entire game
>not Luxoria
choose one
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>>172085350
LOOKS
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>>172085350
Because pros hate it for legitimate reasons so everyone else hates it so they can emulate pros.
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>>172085618 twitchtv/oreo4679/videos/all
he's offline now, but those videos are good stuff, just skip the whole draft shit
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>>172085725
Sky Temple has boss comeback mechanic and phases when 2 temples spawn letting the behind team get some shots in. Also big enough map that you can push opposite lanes from the temple if you are down levels.

BHB has nothing like that. There's 0 comeback mechanics and again it's a lot more strict on your comp.
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>>172085165
oh no anon, you forgot to censor it!
waaaaaaaaaaah....i'm little shy.
y-you can add me in discord tiny#8759
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>>172082835
i want to _pet Brightwing
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>>172080838
You mean OVERWATCH
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>>172086001
Fuck, I meant to post the sfw version. No more deletes so rip me.
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>>172086106
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP IT FUCKING STOP IT
ITS ENOUGH THAT FUCKING /r9K/ SPAMS IT
I DONT WANT TO SEE THAT SHIT HERE
YOU HERE ME?!
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>>172085919

>whichever team goes full autist PVE camp spam mode better wins

hate this meme on BHB literally every game
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>euros in charge of hots
https://twitter.com/MisfitsGG/status/845684100883189761
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>>172086392
The funny thing is that one mercer beats all other mercers in teamfights.

Sonya destroys Illidan and Samuro and does well against Greymane. No idea if there's other junglers, I'm pretty tired, but Sonya beats them.

>>172086490
American sponsor wants an american team. Former Misfits already have a new sponsor with team liquid.
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>>172086280
>ban
farewell anon ;_;
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>>172086627
TB Varian is a jungler, but he doesn't come online until L10 so he's bad on BHB.
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>>172087210
Yeah I know. Rexxar used to work but now he has too low of a dmg output to properly jungle.
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Imperius is the next hero.
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>>172087557
fuck yes
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>>172087557
Fuck if they add more D3 Angels. They're literally the most boring thing in the entire Diablo franchise.
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>>172087557
>another month of not playing hots

I'm actually fine with this.
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>>172086106
Brightwing is cute.
CUTE
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Would anyone be willing to help me get Cho'Gall? Two quick vs AI games?
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>>172087557
>Diablo 3 model
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>>172087557
>another fucking angel

wow that's almost as bad as the probe
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>>172087557
That's not Overwatch or WoW
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League/dota player

I dont really like the core design philosophy of HotS but i do like the very unique heroes its spawned.

Are chogall/abathur/murky/whoever else im missing fun enough to warrant an install?
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>>172091271
you're already missing out just by not playing Tassadar
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>>172091271
yeah, there are some really fun heroes, Alarak for instance is making me love this game again
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>>172091271
>abathur
yes
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>>172091271

The core design of the game is actually quite interesting. Other assfaggot games focus on micro play, whereas HOTS is all about the macro play. You don't have an hour to make up for bad play with farm, so it's all about how you perform with your team. Different but good IMO.

New heroes every month is reason enough to pop in every now and again.
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>>172091271
>>172091494
THE CHOICE

is simple.
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>>172085913
thanks tovarisch
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>>172091271
>Abathur
Possibly.
>Murky
Hell yeah.
>Cho'gall
If you have a friend.

>>172091551
Mhm. Try to keep it fun and light with hots.

>>172092415
>ends before he gets executed by mercs
kek
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ded thread

gibsme new hero
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>>172089258
i wanted the probe
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>>172091271
>Cho'gall
He got nerfed hard recently, but with a friend he can be neat.
>Abathur
If you like RTS, he's one of the best characters in the game in theory. He requires your team to be able to win 4.5 vs 5
>Murky
Is awesome
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I don't fucking understand this whatsoever.

>get MVP
>absolutely demolish the enemy team
>never die once
>contribute the most xp, the most hero damage
>on objectives constantly
>even 200

I feel like I've been slotted into silver and never get to leave.
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>>172096967
Because literally none of that matters.
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>>172097020
...

What matters then?
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>>172097071
Winning.

And the mmr of those you're playing with/against.

That's it.

You could go 0-39 on Leoric in a match and still get those same 200 points. Actually winning is all that matters.
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Higher level cap when?
I get it, they don't want to give out free Gold, but it would be neat if we had a better indicator of how long a person has been playing.
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>>172097071
>>172097142
Oh, and your hidden MMR relative to those you're playing with/against. Influences those little gains, as I recall.

Like, when you get 214 for a win.
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satan loves you
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>>172097161
Isn't the revamped leveling system going to essentially be handing us more gold? Which likely means the Loot system is going to be something to help combat how freely they're giving away gold now. So I expect a bunch of more cash shop shit.
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Alright, i finally grinded up to 10k. About to buy my first hero. I really enjoy tanks, are there any tanks that i should avoid?

Was thinking about buying leoric and that one dinosaur zerg guy.
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>>172097253
>>172097142
So if I'm playing against players who are ranked the same as me or lower

And we absolutely demolish them...

Should I not be boosted ahead more as we are clearly better?
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>>172097391
Leoric is not really a tank

Dehaka is a love or hate kind of thing to be honest. Any other tanks you are interested in?
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>>172097391
Don't buy Leoric. He's not really in the best place atm.

What warriors do you currently own?
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>>172097485

Leoric is fine on Braxis and Spider map.
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>>172097962
He's buying his first hero. You're going to recommend someone "fine" on two maps?
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>>172098058

Sure.
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>>172097391
I would say Diablo or Muradin, if you didn't already get him from the training mode.
Arthas is also fun and he has received buffs recently that have made him really strong
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>>172097398
Ehh, sort of.

I don't know if anything has been changed recently but as of now it seems the game seems to think you're at your appropriate skill level, thus the lack of rank adjustment.

If you win, say, seven games in a row your MMR might be high relative to your rank, and as such you'll (probably) get more ranked points.

Good hunting.
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>>172081328
>>172098248
Keep posting Gnar
He's cute and one of the only good things from Lol
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>>172097440
>>172097485
>>172098180
Oh, i forgot that i actually owned diablo.

I dont really like him to be honest, Unless im headbutting someone into a wall it doesnt really seem like im doing much of anything

What about stitches?
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>>172098387
Stitches can be get some solid picks if you can actual land your hooks
If you can't then you're really useless.
If you'd like to blow 10k I'd suggest Varian. He's not really good until level 10 and then he gets a huge power spike
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>>172098348
Agreed.

>>172097391
If it's really between the two I'd go with Dehaka.

Depends on your goals, though, and if you love Leoric then by all means go for it.

>>172098387
>Stitches
His fellow still has his problems. I'd recommend against unless you really want to play the hook/grab hero.

>literally just a ball of health if you can't hit hooks

And if you do hit one he's reliant on teammates to follow up, unless you take Gorge, which...was always a bit questionable.
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>every retard kael goes convection
>mfw i go mana addict and when dive heroes focus me they get arcane cucked with my barrier
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>>172098348
>>172098908
>>172098248
I haven't played LoL in a REALLY long time. The last new hero I remember from when I played was Zac. What's this new little Yordle thing do? I fucking loved the Yordles.
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>>172099726
>What's this new little Yordle thing do?
He's cancer.
He's manaless with mobility, slowing poke, and %Max HP damage.

And that's before he gets angry.
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>>172099726
I also left league around that time and recently got back into it, My boy warwick got an update, its pretty fun.
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>>172100158
>>172099961
>>172099726

>lolfags in hots thread

y tho
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>>172100343
Because I quit League over a year ago to play HotS.
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>>172100343
>mobafags in a moba thread

I play all these shitty games. Even smite
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>Nazeebo STILL hasn't been nerfed
When are people gonna catch onto the fact he can safely deal stupid amounts of fucking damage?
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>>172100158
I'll probably never go back, I like HotS too much. But I do miss some characters. Warwick, Renekton, all the Yordles, Nautilus, Fiddlesticks.

>>172100343
>HotS entered the MOBA game way late
>Surprised to see others bring up one of the two games that have cornered the market.

Dumb trumposter.
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>>172100509
Just end the game before 20, nigga, hahaha
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>>172100343
Because cute.

>>172100509
What, his pre-Vile Infection output?

>>172099961
Basically an annoying little hairball up in top lane.

>doesn't use resources, has a little rage bar like Renekton
>ranged autos, every third deals max health % and grants burst of movement speed
>he also has a little Zac E/hop in case you somehow manage to grab him
>turns into giant melee stunbot when bar fills up

Slamming the entire enemy team into a wall feels pretty great.
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>>172100634
>>172100763
Even pre-20 it's not too bad.
But once he hits 20, just one auto attack is enough to send squishies running.
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>>172100763
>What, his pre-Vile Infection output?
Spiders melt squishies without vile infection.
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>>172100550
>Dumb Trumposter

Get out
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>>172100956
That's trying too hard sweetie.
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>>172100634
>spider build
just stand next to someone nigga haha jus hug that shit out
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>>172100903
>Getting hit by vile infection as a backliner
Why though
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>>172101948
because reasons
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>>172101948
Fuck, I meant spiders.
I'm going to bed.
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reposting

is it possible to ticket blizz so i can get a refund on this hero i bought and didnt liked?
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isnt avataring against the rules
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Thread so ded not even the Gravekeepah can bring it back.
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>>172106896
no

>>172106931
yes

>>172107010
delete this
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>>172106896
I'm pretty sure they don't do refunds. Try mode, free rotation, etc.

>>172106931
It sure doesn't stop people. You should see /lolg/

Lulu has been forever spoiled for me
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How do I Jaina?
I like to play my icy waifu, but more often than not it feels like I'm being a detriment to my team.
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>>172109441
>basic positioning skills
>poke with Q, basic attacks if safe
>wait/watch for ally to land CC
>hit all your buttons

Wah lah.

Jaina.
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>>172087689
>They're literally the most boring thing in the entire Diablo franchise.
>implying D1 and D2 player even consider D3 part of the diablo franchise
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>>172109661
How shit is Water Elemental?
It seems pretty useful once I reach level 20 and it mimics my spells, but before that, yeah, it's pretty weak.
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>>172110043
At last check it just wasn't worth picking over Ring.

Which you should be familiar with using. Not the weirdest of skillshots, but definitely possible to miss entirely. Spam in Try Mode, or something.
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on demand hots (mini) tournaments when?
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>>172110576
Would you say she's one of those characters who is particularly good/bad in specific maps?
If so, which maps would those be?
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Minions are so tiny.
I know that Heroes are supposed to look the part but this is ridiculous, it's like they are 1 meter tall humans.
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Who will the next hero? I hope we will get a super tanky warrior like stitches. Because i am tired of playing just stitches and diablo all the time and other warriors are shit
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>>172111090
No, I think she's just a pretty solid/safe pick overall.

Again, be mindful of your rather lengthy cooldowns. No sense in lobbing that Blizzard/cone out there to tickle Diablo only to have the enemy team immediately collapse on you.

Then just be careful because she's fragile.
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Is the mercenary lord any good with sylv?
I feel like every time i try to push with mercs the red faggots ass in and ruin everything
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>>172113025
>other warriors are shit

Filthy Horde.
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playing probius in qm is like activating an easy mode button

he's also fun as fuck
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>>172113268
Any warrior who can't deal good damage is garbage, everyone is just going to ignore you because you don't make any difference
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I wish this game allowed you to manually say "Thanks" and "Understood" like Overwatch.
Some times a healer helps me at the perfect time, and the character's automated response just sort of doesn't cut it.
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>>172113025
probably from Diablo lore.
The "leaks" were about cain, malthael and recently rumours were about the amazon, but they talked about aidan/dark wanderer
In axolotlt leak there was only baal and some shitty D3 character (imperius, ghom, cydae iirc)

It seems they are pissed of about the leaked list and release heroes that aren't there, so we have a chance of getting mephisto or playable heroes from D2


my bet is on baal. or pic related
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I love playing nova but i hate how she has no escape at all. After i blow my load, if the enemy has anything ranged i'm pretty much fucked
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>>>172116764
>It seems they are pissed of about the leaked list
It would be hilarious if a huge company like that was so incredibly immature and childish
And why does it even matter if people know the leaked list? it hurts nothing
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>>172116941
Zerathul on the other hand is fun to play but i just hate his design and backstory... it's just garbage and he looks like shit... i wish he could swap abilities with nova
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>>172116994
It would ruin the surprise, and people might complain about the list and stop playing the game if they see some heroes they want not coming soon enough
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>>172116764
Oh god i would love to have andariel in the game running around with her boobs hanging out, i remember playing d2 for the first time and fapping to her at the end of act1
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i did a placement for shits and giggles
it was a bunch of ...Silver and gold I think
hence the teamcomps
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Why am i always paired with shitters?
>tfw 18 kills and one death
>we still lost with only one enemy fort killed because the idiots on my team had like 12 deaths each and never even tried pushing and shit
I have a huge losing streak because i am literally placed into teams of total retards expected to carry them, this is fucking retarded, i wish i had some people to team up with so i could laugh that stupid matchmaker in the face because it couldn't put me with shitters
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>cloakshitters
>good
i want the person who told me this meme to die from fucking ass cancer
i wasted 30 000 fucking gold on meme trash
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>>172119507
They take more than 1 game to get good at anon.
Valeera in particular is OP right now if you're good at her.
Zeratul is okay.
Nova is pretty bad right now.
Show me how you're building them
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/zeratul
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>>172119581
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what's this about revamping the level system and loot?
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>>172119815
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/zeratul#gROm
Try something like that, Tbh i dont play Zeratul, I figure someone will chime in and call us both shit
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>>172119581
>Valeera is OP
Maybe in Bronze league and QM. Other than that she's pretty useless. Zeratul is strictly better.
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I'd love this design in HotS

Maybe as an Alarak skin
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>Putting on a Clinic
>Hyperion
>A card to play

Hyperion has like a 40 second cooldown most of the time.
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>tfw dead ally gives me shit for not using divine shield on him
i had to laugh, he actually thought that divine shield isn't reserved exclusively for my person use
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Starcraft 1 remastered announced! Who they will announce into HOTS with the relase of it in your opinion? Im hoping for Fenix or Overmind.
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>>172121732
And another inmportant question. When they will remaster Warcraft 3?
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>>172121732
overmind does the same shit as zagara and aba, they won't put him into the game. I would like to see that jamaican specter guy to be put into the game so that way we could finally have full 5 herp perma cloak teams
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>>172121732
MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSK
W H E N
H
E
N
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>>172121838
I think you mean Tosh.
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>>172121732
I WANT THE OVERMIND.

>>172121856
I WANT MENGSK.

>>172121838
Only if you lack imagination.
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What is Dehaka good for?
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>>172081009
>>172081443

Why not have Fenix start as a Zealot, but his Ult turns him permanently into either his Ranged Dragoon form or his Robot fake when he next dies?
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>>172120832
>AUG 2003

really makes u thingk
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>>172122282
it's a cute idea but it's also fairly stupid cause people are just gonna go off themselves as soon as they get the ult
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>>172113025
They already confirmed Kel'thuzad as a Rexxar skin.
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>>172122865
ebin xD
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>>172122215
You take Dehaka when you want:
>A global hero
>A stun
>A good wave clear
>A way to punish people below diamond because most casual players have no idea how to dodge the tongue nor how to comprehend a global hero's presence.
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>>172122865
>misha is Mr. Bigglesworth
>Bird is a frost attack
>feign death puts him into a coffin
I'd buy it, even though i never take feign death.
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>>172122975
What Anon meant to say is that you can splitpush one lane, realize your team just deathballed into suicide trap, you can arrive there late, have the enemy dodge your drag and then ignore you as they keep killing your team.
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>>172123078
>>feign death
I never understood the purpose of this stupid skill. Why not just give him stasis like almost every other hero does? feigh death IS stasis, so why make it different like that?
What they should do is that when feign death is uses the enemy team gets DING and actually think they killed you, that would be coo
l
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>When you hover Rehgar and your team picks/bans for the perfect Bloodlust comp.
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>>172123530
It's a callback to WoW.
Feign Death was mostly a PvE skill since, unless your meme game was extremely good, no rational player would ever think your health dropped from 20% to 0.
It's a renamed skill like half the heroes have as well.
His Intimidating presence also has a different name and works on bear, making it even easier to get more use out of it.

It was okayish when he came out but with those recent talent changes he's tanky enough to not need a skill dodge, unless you're finding that chromie really pesky.
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>>172123530
>Feign Death teleports Rexxar and stealths him until the duration runs out

>>172123742
I think an enemy team tried this against me recently.
>Enemy team bans Artanis
>They then pick Valla and Greymane
>I pick Johanna
>Tell our guy to ban Rehgar, he does
>8 seconds later
SOMEONE FROM YOUR GAME HAS DISCONNECTED
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>>172123530
it would be hilarious to have lvl 20 talent which extends feight death duration to 60 seconds
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>>172121983
WE SPECTAHS BE DA FUTCHYA
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Ahem.
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>>172121983
He's cool but aside from sprinkling in some Voodoo in he'd still be a stealth sniper
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>>172112676

>Sgt. Hammer is microscopic
>Li Li is nearly the size of Diablo

Who cares
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>>172113178

Sylvannas isn't a solo push hero. Merc Lord is bronzie bait.

Actually. all of her level 1 talents are bad, so pick whichever one you want because they don't matter.
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>>172112676
Have you seen how huge Lili is? Her head alone is adult male height ingame
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Who's ready for Tuesday?
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>>172132731
Whats Tuesday
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>play lunara
>top damage to heroes
>still feel useless
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>>172133509
The most important day of your life.
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>>172132731
>still no lord of Hatred
>still no lord of Destruction
>still no playable characters from D1 or D2

>Hey guys ! Let's add some D3 meme angel no one gives a fuck about!
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>>172081491
it hurts ;_;
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>>172133763

>muh lore
>muh nostalgia
>muh entitlement

laffin so hard @ u rn dood haha what a loser lol
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>>172133763
>Wanting lLiteral who no-name classes from D1/D2
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>>172133763
Xul
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>Heal 50% of teams damage
>Still lose because they are bad
#justsupportproblems
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>>172134464
wow sorry meant to reply >>172133516 this to suggest another character
i know no one threw scythes in d2!
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>>172134264
>i want the loreshit like probius blizzard tells me to like over characters people played thousands of hours
great plan
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>>172135042
I hated probius too just so you know.
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>bad tank blames the team for no damage

zzz
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>>172136396

>johanna 9 deaths
>"lol no damage gg"
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>>172136498
>>johanna 9 deaths
is it even possible?
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>>172136498
Johanna with 9 death means either A: Her team was terribad B: Her support was bad but her team was okay or C: She was bad
More often than not its A
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>>172137597

>what is peeling
>knowing the difference
>diving so hard for nothing
>letting backline get fucked
>but muh damage

I'd say most Johanna players would consider the situation to be A, but it's actually usually C.
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>>172121732
Anyone thinking of getting this?

I've never played Starcraft and this seems like a no brainer to try it out. It also seems like they changed fuck all, so it will be authentic.
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>>172121732
>>172138981
No reason to buy the remaster. They're releasing SC1 for free.
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>>172139051
Seems a bit silly on their part then. Do they not want money?
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>>172139180
>Hey goy wanna buy SC1 again?
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>Sgt hammer drives a fucking tank
>Isn't a tank
Explain
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I love chromie but she is so useless. If you arent playing with a team on skype you will never land any hits because all her skillshots are pure lottery
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>>172140832

there is a simple pottery in lottery
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>>172138597
To be fair, her and arthas are in the exact same positions, doing exactly the same thing.

The problem being, their team has sustained damage against a tank meant to tank burst, and you're fighting a tank that's decent against both damage and burst.

Both their builds suck though, so maybe everyone just sucks.
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>>172140832
Her skills, especially the W, are insanely easy to land and do 30-50% of non warriors health each.
Seriously shes incredibly good if you can even land 1 in 4
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We have two thread going. Who fucked up?
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>>172145040

Some autist that got upset that the OP has a typo in it. It's been on page 10 like 50 times in the past 12 hours but some retards keep bumping it.
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wow chromie only has 3 fingers, what kind of idiot designed her?
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>>172145528
The same idiot that designed gnomes in Warcraft.
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TOP 100 GRAND MASTER PLAYER PLAYS WORSE THAN THE ENTIRE FUCKING TEAM AND FLAMES US WHAT THE FUCK
WHY IS THIS HAPPENING
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>>172145528

Gnomes don't have 5 fingers
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>>172145804
Who is it, goyim?
>>
http://heroesofthestorm.wikia.com/wiki/Darkness

Darkness hero when?
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>>172146335
Hopefully soon, I'd even take Topper McNabb over the overwatch trash
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>>172146152
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>>172115520
just type "ty" and "k" in allied chat
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Blizard dev here, what do you think about this new hero idea:
A hero which cannot be damaged and kills any enemy with a single auto attack BUT as a draw back he cannot mount and can only move at 1/4 walking speed
Our team really likes the idea so we will likely greenlight it as it presents a very unique game mechanic
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>>172147480
>cannot be damaged
Into the landfill.
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>>172147634
It worked with medivh and it will work here
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>>172147738
It didn't work with Varian's talent (which is better than Medivh's ability and Uther's ULT).
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>>172145523
Eh, to be honest, I'm always looking for hotsg in the catalog, so the missing letter actually made me miss this thread entirely.
I was kinda confused why the fuck that thread was even more dead than usual.
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>monkey king samuro skin so good
>favorite part of playing samuro is his WC3 voicelines and sound effects
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Tfw you start doing laps on the enemy healer
Lucio life
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>fucked up the thread name so it doesn't have "hotsg" in it, just "hots"
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>>172149496
>activate hyper speed
>ride the wall
>push the other team to your team mosh, flamestrike, discord strike

Lucio is the best healer
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>>172149554
why are you searching for hots/hotsg and not 'Heroes' or 'Heroes of the Storm' anon
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>>172149554

>autism

must be hard feel sry 4 u tbqhf
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>Stukov is canonically the most powerful character in Starcraft after Kerrigan (post Amon's death), as dictated by Abathur, the guy who knows best about this shit who's not a voidfag
>"Sorry goys we already used all the important people from SC!"
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sorry hotsg but i'm silenced for 5 more days until i can give you tips in the chat
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>>172081491
flat is justice

>>172147480
cow king?

>>172149636
>>activate hyper speed

no we have to go at ludacris speed
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>>172150039
That is not where the tiddies are located i'm like 80% sure
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>>172149759
Hots and heroes shit out 8 threads right now which is why I've always used hotsg since it only shows these threads

Also heroes of the storm is too long to write, fuck you

>>172149779
Go back to playing your bronze HL games or vs AI
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>>172150039
...Cow king could actually be a fun hero.
Melee Specialist
All ability names are MOO or some varaition
Same for talents
What would his skills be? I imagine his trait summoning smaller cows.
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>>172149807
>Blizzard:Starcraft was a Mistake
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>>172147480
>tfw could actually see something like this happening

Seems more like a map objective to me, though.
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>>172150325
A portal to the cow level.
Targeted AoE like Void Prison that puts enemy heroes into an extra level with a fuckton of cows. Allies can click on the portal to jump after and fuck them up. Lasts like 6 seconds.
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Next 5 hero prediction
1: Anduriel
2: Cow King
3: Hogger
4: Deckard Cain
5: Cletus (Blizzard Classic)
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>>172150292

>upset of literally one letter
>"G-GO BACK TO QM OR AI YOU B-BAKA"
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>>172150907

>3 Diablo

Eternally laffin
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>>172150325
MOOve - Charge in a straight line and stun anything hit
MOOw - Whirlwind spin, deals damage in a 360 degree arc once
MOOlk - Drink milk to restore health
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Yknow, this dweeb probably would have been better than Probius
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>>172151449

I disagree. Fuck lore. Probe is fun and interesting, despite being undertuned.
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>>172150325
>>172151281
Whatever his abilities, he definitely needs to be lightning enchanted.
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>>172151281
There is no cow hero.
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>>172151685

>tank hero
>lightning enchanted

i'll quit this game i swear on me mum
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>>172151449
>Has bigger arms than artanis
>Is just an engineer
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>>172151772
Passive is called There is no cow hero
Gives stealth like Nova and Zeratul but can also activate to stealth like Valeera
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>>172151685
>lightning enchanted

lei shen when

taoshi when
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>>172152135
what about picking no talents at all because you're just that good
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What are the hardest heroes to master?
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>>172082104
The amount of healers in HOTS surprised me after coming from LoL.
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Well shit this is the first time ive ever felt the urge to report someone.
Sonya afk'd all game spouting about how KT was shit while costing us the game.
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>>172153145
All sonya players are dumb savages.
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>>172150907
>Hogger
Maybe as a map objective or merc

>Cow King
Never ever, not even as a map.

>Deckard Cain
Blizz outright said
>Welp, fuck that shit, just let them design a hero and call it a day, maybe after we've run out of other stuff

>Anduriel
Technically ok, but A: Mephisto and Baal ain't in yet and
B: It's a Diablo 2 character, no chance in hell.

>>172151449
I'd like Spoc-Oc, his Ulimates would have been more engaging, too, with Solar Lance and Chrono Wave.
What I'm most sad about is that Probius is some burst mage for some reason. He has two abilities that solely work for damage, 80% of his talents are for dealing damage with them and there's no way to actually play him as a builder.
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>>172153095
>Alarak
>Zeratul
>Valeera
>Li-Ming
>Rexxar
>Vikings
>Samuro (Illusion Master)

First that come to mind, in no particular order

Honorable mention to Tracer and...probably another. I'm forgetting somebody here.
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>>172153337
>tfw playing Alarak on 156ms ping
It's like I'm playing European Dante Must Die Extreme Ace of Aces mode
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>>172153337
>li ming
??
I would include Abathur Medivh and Cho'Gall. I also think that not feeding on Leoric would be quite a skill
>>
How do I not get kited to death by Tracer?

This fucking whore is pissing me off.
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>>172153778
Don't engage unless you have hard cc or your team is close.
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>>172153778
Position better
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>varian counts as a tank
>morons go twin blades
>varian counts as an assassin
>everyone goes prot and makes insanely imbalanced

nice game
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>>172153778
Get a hero with lots of stuns.
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>>172153821
>>172153881
>>172153892
Shame I can't rely on these low level players to CC her.

Guess I gotta play the CC bot.

Thanks boys.
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>>172153778
Be a ranged AA and laugh at her trying to outdamage/sustain you.
OR
Hard CC and blow her tiny healthbar to smithereens in one second flat

>but I don't have hard CC or ranged AA
Sounds like you got outdrafted
>but it's QM!!!
Lmao
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Is Li-Ming broken?

I'm pretty new to the game and the enemy team keeps bitching me out when I play her.
>>
Do people still post/rate favorite heroes here or is it a meme now?
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>>172154147
She's broken good if you can land your skillshots consistently, if your team can set up kills for you and especially if half their team is super squishy.
Bonus points against Vikings or Murky.
>>
How to play the goat of toxic javelins?
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>>172154147
Not really broken but if you're new that mean you're playing with other new players who probably feed and give her resets so she just mop the floor with your team.

>>172154267
Valeera is the best.
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>>172154354
>>172154401

I keep spamming her giant discs and they don't really seem like they're attempting to avoid them.

And yeah I'm kinda new to HOTS but I've played quite a bit of league.

She's a fun bursty mage like I'm used to over there which is the only reason I picked her up.
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>>172153587
>Li-Ming is easy
I want this meme to die.
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>>172154556

Li-Ming is a low rank pubstomper because no one can dodge or predict.
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>>172154556
Are you the league guy who asked about hots earlier? How shit is LoL now compared to S3?
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>>172154556
She fits into most comps, but don't draft her into 2+ tanks or especially resilient other heroes, don't draft her into anti-mages like Anub, Stitches and now Tyrael I guess, don't draft her if you already have another mage and you should be good.

You can always just fuck around in QM to get better at hitting her stuff. It's crucial to be consistent with her, she doesn't have the damage output of Chromie where just hitting 1/3 is enough to send people running for their fountain.
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Post hero themes

>Alarak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuziAszbCYs

>Ragnaros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s23WHkAhcrY
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>Enemy team has like 80 stuns/silences
>Team crying that I cant manage to use shield on lucio when its aoe is literally the smallest thing ever and they are all standing in a perfect circle of apocalypse with a malf ready to use twilight shroud the second i attempt to ult
Why does everyone think Lucio is retard proof when its litearlly the simplest thing to hardcounter him if you arent retarded and have a basic understanding of his kit?
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>>172155881
>tfw you cuck their lucio with soundwave as lucio

lmao
>>
>>172155881
Because he is.
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>>172155881
>doesn't have a second support pre-cleansing him as he soundwaves
Fucking laughing my balls off here, don't do that shit again or I might have to stop masturbating 4 times a day.
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>>172154668
Never said she was easy but she is certainly not "hard to master". In my opinion she is easier than Jaina, Kael'thas and Chromie
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>>172156054
>Lucio uses his heal
>useless for 15 whole seconds
>'LETS BREAK IT' use any cc, cucked
>Only strength is his ability to escape from hard cc and chase, aswell as no mana small healing that is useless the second you are even a single level behind
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>>172151449
>>172153335
He would have, but for some reason they said "let's bring in a builder from starcraft, but NOT make him a builder because we want that to be Gazlowe's thing and want no overlap."

By that logic shouldn't they also only have one stealth hero?

I mean for fuck's sake, Gazlowe is a builder, but he can just set up anywhere relatively instantly.
With a Probe you could have had a builder who needs to take time to set up (so he can set up around his Pylons) but either have harder to remove buildings (possibly without timers) or more damage due to the fact he shouldn't be able to just instantly deploy anywhere.
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>>172156250
Words are hard, I meant something like 'Escape from people without hard cc'
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WHAT THE FUCK
WHY IS THIS ALWAYS HAPPENING IN MY PROMO GAMES WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
>>
Fuck Paul
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>>172156575
That guys is Plat 3? Fuck me I'm shit.
>>
>>172156891
DIAMONG ANON HES DIAMOND
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>>172154738
I am not.

I don't know. I started playing in season 5.
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>>172156575
In my placements so far I had 4 games where 2/5 of my team were AIs
It could be worse.
>>
>>172156982
>Diamong
>Dia-mong(oloid)
That's a good one.
>>
>>172156575
>silver made a new account so he can get diamond and brag about it
>>
>>172157968
>not doing what im doing and just never completing promos unless you get a perfect 10
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>>172156575
Nice game.

>>172158076
>fresh account
>go like 12-8 in Quick Match
>Diamond III, 500 points
But yeah, I wouldn't bother finishing if I knew the account would be placed lower than D5.
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>>172158243
Whoops. Forgot to mention 7-3 in placements.

>>172157968
>tfw know somebody that did literally this
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>>172158243
that was you?
go post your acc on the forums and laugh at blizzard please.
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>>172158489
Ye, and I did. Both the forums and Ribbit.

Did this on all four vulture accounts because why not I'm not doing anything else
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daily last pick illidan
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>>172158786
nice, good job anon.
what did they say?
i really hope they got shit on.
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>>172158786
TOUGH

BREAK

KID
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>>172159029
>wow nice humble brag
>shame on you for exploiting this
>what's the issue
>don't worry they'll drop if they don't deserve diamond (even if it fucks over dozens of actual games)
>oh and rewards are for peak not end so they get the diamond portrait, mount, etc

Basically my stuff was downdootered into oblivion.

So, looks like fresh accounts simply start in Diamond until further notice.

I guess this is why they made the better mount require Master.

>tfw more people in diamond than bronze
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>>172159476
fucking blizzdrones
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Is this the true power of the new QM matchmaker?
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>>172160163
>all assassin five clown fiesta etc

I'm actually not seeing the issue.

>their assassins fuck our assassins

Counters aren't really something that can be taken into account.

>>172159654
>tfw blizzdrone myself
ugh
>>
>>172158901
But last pick Illidan should be the only Illidan pick at all. First pick Illi is fucking terrible.

Unless you're telling me he SHOULD have picked a tank or support.

>>172159476
I have a 60% winrate in over 800 games. Pretty much exclusively QM/Ranked, only very few AI games in case I quickly need to finish a quest before my slots are full.
I'm only Silver.
I'm not sure whether I'm consistently getting carried in QM, which shouldn't happen over such a large amount of games, or my HL/TL teammates just all fucking suck.
What I suspect as the biggest offender is terrible matchmaking. Kinda wish I hadn't invested as heavily in skins on this account as I did, but oh well.

The good thing is that I can unironically try to go for bronze without fucking up too many games, that's something. Wish the portraits didn't have the year date at the bottom though.
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>>172160364

>5/5 of enemy team has spell shield
>2/5 of friendly team has mitigation at all

Just sayin'.
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>>172156575
FEELS FUCKING BAD MAN
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can i get any of the non-master skins in any way other than spending real moneys?
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>>172160473
Yeah, it sucks. This isn't something that can really be factored into matchmaking, though.

>>172160559
whew
if only dodges weren't six hundred fucking points, eh
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>>172160473
Uh, that's not all that important compared to

>3/5 of the enemy team can dive and burst hard
>5/5 of your team die to burst
>3/5 of your team have zero ability to escape or prevent said burst
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>>172160685
By converting WoW gold into battle.net currency. That's it, at least right now.

Might see loot crates or something resembling the hextech crafting system in the future. Hopefully. One of these years.

tfw no gifting
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>>172160704
That's why 3 queue HL is best.

The other two seem to fuck around?
Take turns dodging. It averages 200 lost rank for 3 dodged games for the 3 people, but saves the time of 3 games.
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Anyone managing to make Abathur works in QM at master levels?
Can't seem to have any impact on games and just giving free MMR
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>>172161378
>Picking Abathur when Braxis Holdout and Warhead Junction exist
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i swear to god diamond 1 is the worst
they are either afk or total morons. I'm never going to rank up.
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>>172160884
but what if i don't play WoW?
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>>172160884
wait what?
since when can you do that?
you can only buy playtime.
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>>172162276
Then you're out of luck.

even if you're better off never having gotten into WoW

>>172162368
A while ago, actually. A token can now be redeemed for either 30 days play time or $15 battle.net currency.
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>>172160913
Maybe three weeks?
Were you not in any Blizzard game general at all?

You can convert a 20 dollar/25k gold token into either 30 days WoW subscription time, or 15 blizz dollaridoos to spend on shit.
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>>172162486
oh i didnt know that. thanks man
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>Token is 95,000 on NA

Whew.

I decided against buying a ton when they were 60k each because reasons.

kill me
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>>172162569
>25k gold
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>>172162569
>token
>25k

shit nigga how long you been gone
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>tfw your year stimpack runs out and exp is so slow
>>
Do we even have an ETA on the loot system?
Or at least a description of it?
I would like to know before I spend more money on this game.
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>>172163695

March 28th
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>>172163636
I'm still fairly new to the game, how did you get a yearly stimpack? I don't see one on the store.
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>>172162895
so Koreans are nolife grinders with no money while americans are normies with too much money
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>>172163958

usually on sale around june or novemeber because of E3 and Blizzcon time
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224 Nazeebo stacks in 17:34, feels good
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>>172163958
As the other fellow said it was on sale around E3, Blizzcon and/or Christmas. I don't recall exactly. It was $60 or so.

>>172163776
pls b real
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>>172162486
How much gold for a token?
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>>172165420
>It was $60 or so.
Wow. $60 for a shitty stimpact that is literally number two x exp stored in a database somewhere
You can have a brand new AAA game for that kind of money
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>>172165686

It's not that bad considering this is the main game I play. I'd rather spend $60 on this game I already enjoy once a year instead of buying a new game I might not like.
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>>172165903
It's even worse. Nobody sees or cares about your exps. You can't wear the exps. Exps are useless. Why not buy 6 awesome skins instead? That it a LOT of great skins for $60
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>>172165686
Yeah, exactly. It's a reasonable value relative to the normal price, though, even if it's only worth it if you're interested in Master skins and the like.

>>172165512
see>>172162895

the site: https://wowtoken.info/


>>172166052
For now. Perhaps they'll do something with hero/account level in the future.

>hero level 10
>hero level 20
>master skin(s)

These are the things you'll get quicker with a stim. Personal choice, etc.

does anybody have the screenshot of that fellow who bought ten years worth of stims tho
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>>172166052
stimpack gives you a lot of gold so you get master skins faster

It's also good to get that extra gold so you can get the new heroes when they release
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They just need to remove QM from this fucking game.

It's inexcusable that I get matched with a player that has more than 1k games yet still doesn't know how Jaina's ring of frost works.

FUCK QM. REMOVE THAT SHIT. FORCE PLAYERS INTO UNRANKED OR RANKED.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Why is Blizzard so cucked?
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>>172166396
You don't have to play it
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>>172167085
>it exists
>a ton of people play it
>therefore fewer people queue unranked draft/ranked
>longer queues

Or something like that.


I wonder how many people queue exclusively Vs. AI
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>>172166486
I think Joey JoJo is cool
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>>172166176
Playing without stimpack is hell, but personally I prefer paying money for skins, and even that feels a bit silly when I stop to think about it.
Not the same Anon btw
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>>172167427
who here
>playan all heroes as equally as possible
>no mainan flex player
True Gold, feels good not being bronze

I wish there were less assassins, the abundance of assassins makes it hard to get equal games as warriors/specs/supps as them.

I also wish Nova wasn't as useless. I win the majority of the games I play as her, but she's desperately lacking in build diversity, and a proper role outside of QM pubstomping.
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>>172080838
Reinhardt is that you!?
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>>172168752
HAMMA
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>>172168752
PRECISION
GERMAN
ENGINEERING
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>>172167579
No you retard. They made her an ugly hag in the image I posted.
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>>172168752
Crusader online
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>>172168937
I mean, in the middle of the fight I can see her making that face
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>>172169576
An angry face? Yeah, sure.
A distorted, shoddily drawn face? Come the fuck on you waifutard.
It's shit art.
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how do you fuck up a tournament so bad you make a contract to only stream on fucking facebook
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>>172169667
>throwing a bitch fit because she looks ugly in the pic you posted
>calling anyone else waifutard

Are you literally retarded?
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>>172167579
>>172169576
>>172166486

None of these are Johanna.
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>infernal shrines
>enemy has 10/40
>we have 39/40
>we have medivh
>hes literally refusing to just go in and take one
this is the stupdiest ive ever seen a player be in my entlire life
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>Gone against Gul'dan the last 10 games straight

I've never seen a character get super popular out of nowhere so quickly
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>>172170518
>this is the stupdiest ive ever seen a player be in my entlire life
nowhere near close to mine
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>>172170313
d3 lore a shit. no one cares
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>>172170586
its in free rotation and its pretty damn fun to play
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>>172170518
oh and now he's refusing to play the game because everyone flamed him
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>>172170586
He's so stupid basic, stupid strong AND stupid fun to play, it's kind of amazing you don't see him all the time regardless of rotation.

Wish Fel Flame got a better build. That level 1 talent is just not worth it.
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>>172170518
>battlefield of eternity
>medivh stasis the enemy team out of an etc ult

>twice
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>>172171108
either they should add a mana reduction to flame on top of that quest or make it like 25%
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>>172171108
>>172171930
Q build is super strong and definitely worth it. Lots of pros are using it on Spider Queen
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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yeah fuck this game
i'm playing with a master kaelthas that didn't use his stun a single fuckign time this game
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>>172172126
The rest of Q build is servicable.
8-40% extra damage
CD reduction for corruption
Spellshield
Tons of good stuff. But all talents that have an immediate effect.
Meanwhile, his Q quest talent has an underwhelming as fuck effect of 10% (ten percent) more range on an already short range skill only after you completely fulfill it. There's not even stretch goals.
Why not 20-25%? Why not (2.5% per 4 enemies hit) with a (quest reward: deals an additional 100 damage over x seconds)?
Why not give that talent that small edge it needs to be actually worth considering?
I mean, Echoed corruption outright doubles the skills damage and makes it a lot easier to trigger the third damage spike on the 16 talent.
Nothing like that for Q.
>>
uninstalled this trash game
never have i ever played with so fucking bad players in my life while supposedly being top 1% or whatever the fuck 1500 masters is
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>>172173862
>1500 masters
>1%
top lil
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>>172173986
are you telling me this game doesn't even have 100k monthly players?
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>>172160449
Haha! I'm gold 5! Eat it bronzie.
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Is Johanna the only legit tank in the game?
As in, great at staying alive and soaking up damage but not really all that good at killing people?
I'm asking because I've played her for a couple of times and I choose the talents that help me accomplish that, but I'm still not sure if I'm doing my job right.
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>>172174119
There are 168,437 people ranked on Hotslogs for Quick Match right now. Given that Hotslogs requires players to upload at least 5 replays in the past 30 days to be given a rank number, this makes ~170k a minimum for the number of concurrent players. Hotslogs notoriously does not have good information on lower ranked players as most people below plat don't upload replays to the site, so the real number of concurrent players should be significantly higher.
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Why is Alarak's counterstrike a fucking triangle? Why can't it be a rectangle? Everybody dodges this shit.
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>>172176580
Alarak is a conehead, so everything needs to be a triangle shape.
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>>172177403
His abilities in SC2 were rectangles wtf
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>>172177495
>I can't handle this new flaveure
Kys my famalam
>>
>you take a look at your realm
>it is swarming with insects

What do /hotsg/?
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>>172177596
New flaveure is for dicksuckers.
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>>172178086
Swat them?
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>>172178086
Tell them to die.
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>>172171783
>Be Jaina
>lvl 16
>2 haves a minions pushing hard on our keep
>Cast Blizzard
>Tychus/Lucio/ETC/etc (take your pic) decide to "help" and scatter all the minions outside of my blizzard's radius

FUCKING REE.
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>>172178086
All is well.
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>>172178086
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>>172178971
indubidubly
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>>172176650
How do you even reach that point without uninstalling the game
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>>172178965
>be chromie
>our zeratul gets a 5 man void prison
>ping it, cast my W
>our nova ults it
>he doesn't unstasis
>tell him to cancel it for a lot of damage
>he does this two more times in the game without cancelling
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Quick Match:
Goofy ass heroes with dumb builds.
Compositions that make absolutely no sense.
Mish mash of bullshit combos that sometimes work and other times are infuriatingly ineffective.
Roughly the same MMR.
Only 1/5 games have someone unbearably stupid.
Less emphasis on squeezing out every second of the match with maximum map efficiency vs skirmishing.
Doesn't matter because all participants know this and are in it to have fun.

Hero League:
Same series of heroes and strats on rotation.
Inexplicably taking the game so serious as a moba when it's just an action brawler Smash Bros.
Autismo central with eSport wannabees unable to take short quips of critique because "muh ego and experience".
B L I Z Z A R D MATCHMAKING ranking system that hasn't worked in some semblance since Warcraft 3's rendition of Battle.net.

Feel free to add to this. Or prove me wrong. The difference is day and night though. I thought this game would have been abandoned after the beginning of last year but they keep breathing life into it.
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I'm not seeing everyone's issue with QM. What's the big deal?
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Any tips for playing as Nazeebo?
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>>172179924
By losing 9 games in a row and only winning 1 in Team League.
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This is the only MOBA that I play, does the whole "banning heroes" mechanic exist in others?
If it does, isn't it kind of retarded?
It's like something that happens when you are playing with THAT kid, and he says that X character is cheap so he isn't allowed.
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>>172179376
is that rule 63 loli ragnaros
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>>172180919
No, LoL and Dota also have it.
It's not retarded, because you shouldn't ban what you don't like, you should ban central pieces of enemy composition or direct counters to your composition.
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>>172180509
>Pressing R to be invincible is good game design

>t. Devs from the HotS Game design team who ACTUALLY believe this
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>>172180609
BRRRAAAAP them good
AIIYEE their shit in
Finish it with some WARBLGARBBBL

Pick Vile Infection and laugh as you get highest hero/siege damage just throwing random shit out.
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>>172181789
bleh bleh bleh you shouldnt ban what you don't like bleh bleh strategy bleh bleh.

This game is the most casual shit ever. Don't even pretend there is strategy behind picks and bans.
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>>172181913
>woooow Illidan just dodged my AAs and has spell armor to boot fucking IMBA who believes this shit is actually balanced???
>fucking chen stupid panda shouldn't have evasion why does he get shiels AND spell amroror fucking broknen piece of shit gass all developers of him?!
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>constant triple support 5 stacks in QM

help
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>>172181983
As a platinum player, stay in gold-bronze please. It's hard enough with mouthbreathers who can't into mechanics already, I don't need more idiots who shit up my draft because "fuck strategy LOLOLO", it's already nigh unbearable.
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>>172182380
diamond 1
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>>172182841
Right after his placements like the rest of the nobrain gold idiots that think their smurf placements mean shit.

Post your 1000+ games ranked only profile with every single season HL and TL in diamond or above or your opinion doesn't mean SHIT because
-I-
say so.
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Wow, look at all those tanks.

Sure wish I had one.
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>>172182841
my dad owns Nintendo
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>>172183145
>2 tanks plus a good frontliner

at least you have rexxar he is a tank!
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>>172183113
btfo
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>>172183113
No reply?
That's what I thought
fucking bitches they think they can spit on my rep
Good to know I'm once more right without dispute
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>>172184170
>lvl 12 jaina

I want to believe red wins because blue has no push
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>>172184170
>blocking out every battleag but your own

are you fucking autistic? or a normie?
>>
>>172184441
A good zera wave clears.
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>>172184170
Blue because cursed hollow.
Unless that red nova plays those stealthies like a goddamn fiddle to where the rest of the team can react appropriately.
>>
>>172184524
?
His is blocked too
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>>172184170
Blue should take it, they shouldn't lose any team fights, if there are any since they should be ganking the shit out of the red team
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>>172184890
>reading comprehension lvl 2/100

he means that you should only (if ever) block out your own username, but no one elses. it's stupid.
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>>172184170
no one cares about your shitty qm matchups
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>>172185050
I was confused too. Greentext was misused somewhere along the line. But yeah, according to who? Since when?
>>172185216
People have been placing bets since alpha my dude, it's just one of the ways to keep this pathetic general thumping.
>>
Indev / trailer when ?

Also what's the deal with all these edgy fags shitting up this general ?
>>
>>172185672
>>172185050
>Confusing "but" with "except"

lrn2english

and since when? since forever? are you fucking new?
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>>172185672
I'm all for this style, but why is Tyrael white?
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>>172186031
>There will never be a DMT skin who yells T Gonna Give it to Ya when he charges
>There will never be a Bustyr Rhymes skin who just spouts ridiculous nonsense all match
>There will never be a Tyeal skin who sings Kiss from a Nephilim during the setup phase
>>
>>172181983

You sound upset because things you like get banned out or are not viable.

Bans are a way to control what you're going to be going up against, and every map and game are different.

Picks and bans are largely unimportant before high diamond and masters, and then it drops off again as you realize everything you've been banning at low rank is irrelevant and ban priorities change.

It's not grand strategy, it's pre-strategy and pruning the pool of available heroes so your retard team can have a chance at victory.
>>
>>172184524
Might aswell not block anyone if you only block your own name. There's a decent chance one of the 9 players will upload the game to hotslogs and then one of you autists can go dig it out and find who the poster was
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>>172185798
The use of "every" rather than "any" is the problem with that dude's statement.
>>
>>172184170
>not censoring the character's eyes
It's like you don't even want to protect their identities.
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>>172186707
and then what
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>>172187252
Then you found the info the poster wanted to block in the first place, defeating the whole purpose of blocking their name in the first place
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>>172187252
Then post pointlessly aggressive opinions on an anonymous image board to encourage any autist misguided enough to spurge out stereotypical responses.
At least that's been the recent trend in this general. This used to be a sacred shitposting ground with christian values and actual discussion on what could come from the development of this game.
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>tfw you realize Illusion Master is the superior ult

I can see clearly now the rain is gone
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>>172188518
It have been the superior ult since day one anon but the regular player doesn't know how to use it
>>
>Placed in Plat 2.

Oh shit, I may actually hit Diamond this season.
>>
>>172188518
Well yeah of course it's better, it's also harder to use and it always feels like to me there is a slight delay when switching clones.

I have the same problem with the Vikings though.
>>
>be me
>kharazim because free rotation
>lose first 3 games in a row in 13 minutes or less
fuck me, right?

this is going to take a while to get to 5
>>
>>172188518
>tfw Samuro feels like fucking garbage to you anyway

I don't understand at all. You're meant to get 25% movespeed when attacking someone yet people always seem to outrun me anyway, and he doesn't have the health to chase someone at all without blowing up.

How do I into blademaster?
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>>172191089
a thousand and one gods

and none could save you
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>>172191089
>reading yet another greentext story on 2+2 chan in the year of our lord 2017
>people still fucking start greentext stories with ">be me" unironically
Why can't you people just fuck off?
>>
I can't decide if I want to buy Samuro or get Lucio's Master.

Or I guess wait until next hero reveal but in all likelihood it will be somebody I can't get excited for. Even if it's Imperius, I probably wouldn't be too happy.
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>>172191593
>yfw it's MFenix
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>>172185682
>le "I f*ckin' hate this game more than anyone else yet I lurk the general and play it on a daily basis" meme
That shtick shoudn't be new to you
>>
>>172191695
If they release Fenix it would be for the remaster, so it would be this summer.
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>>172191119

Basically it's the melee curse. You need to lead your target and engage toward the direction they will end up running away to. Then you stutter step and use your slight speed increase to body block as much as possible to get any many hits as you can in. When you have illusion master, you try to body block and stutter step with 3 heroes and it gets tricky, so best thing to do is to just stutter step and body block with one unit or all 3 at once to make a wall of unit.

Also as far as trading or engaging, always try to save windwalk for escaping. If you can catch someone in a bush then do that instead of windwalking up to them then popping illusions. Not always an easy task, but it's the most optimal way to ambush and still get away safely.
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>>172191715
>lurk
>actively being edgy and aggressive solely to fit in
>lurk

dunno mate, I remember bees and waifu posting not this /b/ shit
>>
>People complain about Valeera
>When Zeratul is the piss easiest stealther
>>
>>172194363
>zeratul is easy
>>
>>172195418
>Blink
>VP
>Stealth, meaning free of being caught on the mini-map
>Can't really be kited
>But can escape nearly every situation

Definition of easy. He's had one of the easiest and all-around flexible kits since the very beginning, the rework only gave him more to work with.
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>>172195749
>squishy as fuck
>vorpal blade mechanics
>marked for death mechanics
>easy
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>>172196513
He's given more than enough tools to help him avoid nasty situations, is the thing.
>>
>>172195749
Zeratul is definetly harder than Valeera. Sure, it might be easier to escape with Zeratul but it's also harder to actually be useful instead of just escaping all the time. Valeera just clicks her stun and does her combo and can then fuck off, having done enough in most cases
>>
>>172196613
A moderate range blink on 10s escape. I suppose
singularity spike and vorpal blade can be counted as escapes but they almost never work for it. And Void Prison is hardly a proper escape either because used in a teamfight when you're being fucked whoever inst in there will finish you off.

The difficulty of Zeratul comes from hitting your w at range without being detected and then pulling off the entire combo in 1.5 seconds while evading shit and then keeping track of your vorpal blade to port in again as late as possible.
>>
>>172196513

Marked for death felt really bad for me and I ended up just going master warp blade.

...and then I got with the times and converted from wormhole to seeker. And it feels natural and you don't even need to think about it.
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8 slices rye bread
450g sauerkraut, drained
8 slices Swiss cheese
8 slices pastrami
60g margarine, softened
Directions
Top 4 of the bread slices with sauerkraut, cheese and pastrami.
Place remaining bread slices on sandwich.
Spread margarine on the outsides of each sandwich.
Heat a large frypan over medium high heat.
Fry until browned, then turn and fry until heated through and cheese is melted.
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>>172200994
I'll stick with spaghetti.
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>>172100998
>sweetie
Found the reddit :^)
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>>172201953
The same dude has been saying shit like that every few threads or so. I think it's just the way he likes to address people in hopes of getting a rise out of them and shit, for some sense of superiority or whatever, or maybe he's just dicking around and it's funny to him personally and whatnot.
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>>172118452
This makes me so fucking angry. I know how you feel
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>>172118452
Pretty sure this is the ugly side of their matchmaking system being based on team averages as opposed to individual based MMR.

But we can't have individual-based MMR, so what the fuck are you gonna do. It sucks, yeah.
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>>172202664
ok, sweetie
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>>172188518
>>172188648
>>172190330
How does one use Illusion Master then, other than trying to split soak?
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>>172204665
big maps
merc a lot
poke a lot
if done right you're basically everywhere and you're immortal too
mediocre in team fights thou
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>>172180325
you should time your abilities to land when the void ends
you really cant expect him to have to notice when youre casting youre shit especially without comms
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>>172204615
sure thing, hun
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>>172188518

Man, my illusion micro play is SHIT and my macro not much better but...I still have a higher winrate with Illusion master just because controlling them as one removes tells on which is the real one and it makes sure the illusions focus fire.
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>infernal shrines!
>cool
>first pick, get someone I like
>enemy player doesn't pick
>have to re-queue
>get garden of terror

I get garden of terror too often. I fucking hate this map so much.
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>>172208374
>I fucking hate this map so much.

Why?
I hate it too but I can't truly explain the reason.
I should technically like it more than maps in which if the enemy team wins the objective you are absolutely fucked.
In Garden of Terror it's theoretically possible that both teams spawn a terror.
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>>172208596
Not him
nothing happens during the day
nothing happens in the middle
there's no reason to fight but to get a boss and merc camps are so far apart every team is basically guaranteed to get them
both teams are basically guaranteed a terror
top and bot lanes are like double the lenght of the mid one and because of all those walls very hard to get to, just like top lane in dragonshire with that fucking bridge
Since the map is so big and objectives are as described it's a non-stop guerrilla tactic battle with very few team fights
Chase the terror minigame is shit
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Why are Chromie's abilities called what they are? It's like they are mixed up. I think it would make more sense for sandblast to fall down, and dragon's breath to be a fireball.
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>>172210057
More importantly, why is her voice and dialogue so annoying?
I like playing her, she's really fun but goddamn.
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>>172210467
My friend says the same, but I dunno, I actually like her peppy delivery.

But the ability names always confuse me, because I haven't played her for that long, so I don't know the picks by heart yet.
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>>172210467
>"gnome"
>annoying
Probably by design.
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>>172116764
I really doubt that they'll introduce ANY D1/2 only content. Only HotS heroes from Diablo that we will see will be from Diablo 3.
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>>172210057

I'm mad because the sound files label them aether cannon and aether memory and aether cannon sounds cool as fuck.
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>>172118452
Welcome to forced 50% win rate matchmaking
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>>172210815
>forced 50

I thought I left this meme behind in /owg/
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>>172134464
Xul is based on the D3 Necromancer.

It's obvious when you look at the D2 and D3 Necros that they based it on the D3 one even before it was announced.
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>Xul is totally the D2 Necro guys, aren't you excited!? Aren't you thankkful we haven't forgotten the classics!?

https://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20597129/necromancer-update-the-meleemancer-3-14-2017

Gee. That first ability sure looks familiar.
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>>172211318

It's also possible that hots influenced D3 instead of the other way around. Like, Lucio is getting a movement speed boost on wallride in OW after hots and Witchdoctor got the hots zombie wall as a glyph.

Though granted, Xul's a pretty lame hero. You can tell some effort was there(Various curses on talents, bone spear), but it just didn't come together that well. Especially after they nerfed his teamfight and really made him a one trick pushbot.
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>>172175528
That's just the people who've qualified to be on the ranking. They don't have to be online to be on the ranking. Concurrent would mean that there were actual 170k+ players playing at that moment which isn't true.

It would be a lot more reasonable to assume something like 10-20k concurrent players.
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>>172180609
>put zombies around towers/forts
>spider build
>throw spiders on their squishy
>laugh
>get 150 stacks on your passive
>pick vile infection on 20
>win game
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>>172212145
Naming talents for his W after curses in D2, and Bone Spear at 20, all felt like an after-thought. I can't believe they sat there sold him as the D2 Necro, when there is very little actually in common with the Necro, and he especially doesn't play anywhere near how the Necro played. Stupid, considering how they go on about how important it is to capture a character's "fantasy" and how important it is to be "as close to the character's identity as possible". Sure, D3's Necro could've been inspired by it, but the fact that HotS Necro was pretty much only 30% inspired by the D2 Necro is depressing.
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>>172212145
>>172212656
D3 Necro was supposed to be in the next D3 expac that got scrapped. It's likely it's been planned since RoS came out.

Scythes being a Necro class item it's quite obvious to have a skill themed to them.

And Xul was based on the D3 Necro, they only pretented he was based on the D2 one because he came out before the announcement for the new class.
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When will they show the fucking ranked reward mount? How long could it take to recolor a random animal and add flames!
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>>172212931
I eagerly await the addition of Mehtan, Xul's apprentice... who plays like the D2 Necro.
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>>172212145
I wish Xul were actually able to teamfight. Before he released, they said stuff about him being plenty tough and with proper build and team potentially working as a off-tank. Instead we got just a lane janitor, comfy, but nothing else.
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>>172208596
Because doing well depends on how good at pushing you are, or how fast and safely clear the bosses.
Bosses are ALWAYS potential throwpits.
It feels very hard to actually gather seeds because of that.
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Announcement today? Heard that Grubby said something about NDA ending on 27th. New hero and progression revamp!
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>>172213674
Bone Armor's Shackler talent should give him spell armor, CD of Shade should be reduced by like 10 seconds, one of his Q talents should also make it appear and travel faster, so Q build is more viable when you have to go with a Q build, and a W talent of his should increase the duration of his W, so the value of the talent wherein he's healed for every target hit when his W is active goes up.
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>bought probius for 15k thinking he'd be fun
>he's not
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Garrosh will be announced in 5 hours and 25 minutes
Screencap this
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>play QM for daily gold challenge before I head off to work
>MFPallytime is on my team
>anxiety attack kicks in when I realize he might be recording this game to his youtube channel
>he isn't responding ingame to anything I say other than Hi
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>be le sandy vagina midget
>enemy valeera takes cloak of shadows to counter my time loop
>cute
>decide to just fuck with he for fun
>always wait during the team fight for her to pop the cloak and then use my time loop
>don't use it on anyone else even if they would be nice kills
>get like 7 valeera kills during the match
being dick feels great
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>>172212656
What skills should he have based on d2 then ?
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So, how do you fix Probius? More Pilons? Remove the cooldown on Pilons?
Stronger Cannons?
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>>172216831
I find him pretty fun. He's just Harrassement material.
His main thing is to explode the rifts. All the time.
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>>172219349
The problem is regarding it's current gameplay that got nothing to do with the D2 necromancer.

A D2 necromancer on hots could have :
>Q : teeth or bone spear
>W : curse life tap
>E : curse : bone prison
>R1 : iron maiden
>R2 : poison nova
It would result in a support / specialist.
but the main problem imo is the skulls that doesn't follow him and don't really fight for him on team fights.

If you want an actual specialist or damage dealer your could make him an actual summoner with the keys 1 and 2 to summon skulls and mage skulls (you can summon a new skull every level)
>Q : teeth
>W : bone spirit
>E : bone wall/ prison
>R1 : poison nova
>R2 : iron maiden
>trait : gain a skill point to spend on skeletons, mage skeletons or skeleton mastery (more skeletons or improve them in general)
you would be able to have at least 6 good skeletons level 10 following you everywhere. End game lvl20 you could have 8 skeletons and 5 mages
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>>172219691
>speed boost doesn't stop when taking damages
>give pylons two charges
>W activate faster
>his turret last longer
I'm impressed he is around 47% winrate
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SECRET BLIZZARD MEETING ENDS TODAY!

What will we get boys? Le undead obey me man?
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>haunted mines
>prepick gazlowe for camps
>first pick other guy picks azmodan
>one stupid faggot hurr durr change not 2 specs
>tell him 2 specs is good in haunted mines
>Omg noob play Tetris
>he bans gazlowe
>pick rehgar instead because another faggot picked tyrande
>hurr durr not 2 heals, you're cancer
>lose with 3 levels behind , still MVP with rehgar
>*all report rehgar*
>next game towers map
>samefagg in enemy team picks Ragnaros
>pick Sonya and only focus on him all match not even bother take objectives
>we win with 1/40 left, 9 Ragnaros kills
>mfw I transformed the fagg into a bitch feeder
>mfw we all voted Ragnaros as best player afterwards for giggles
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>>172213836
Maiev can never be a thing now that Valeera is in..

Stukov and KT, though..
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Whats the single strongest talent and why is it Calldown: Mule
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>>172221331
I'm so glad when it happens. That's probably the best feeling ever in this game, to be able to destroy a retard that flamed or played like shit before.
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>>172220187
Honestly there's a lot of ways a D2 necro could be done.

I don't see it or any other D2 character happening

I think curses would be best done if he had one ability called Curse that as a baseline reduced armor by 25 on targets in a small area and then you had one level with 4 curse talents that would let you pick what "actual" curse you want.
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>>172200398
Suboptimal spec. You're supposed to go Seeker with Marked for Death. That way you can get 3 combo slash autoattacks in, all of them with +50% dmg.
And 20 on you can just oneshot squishies.
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>>172221513

Sorry but rewind still exists.
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tfw get a game with medivh and uther
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>>172223042
And doing the math Wormhole/Seeker+Master Warp Blade does 25% less dmg during the burst than Seeker+Sentenced for Death. And that is with one more autoattack for Master Warp Blade to get another procc in.

I realize it's better sustain but as Zeratul you're so squishy, you aren't supposed to stick on someone for long during a teamfight.
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>>172224012
Does have it's plave on BoE.
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>>172224154
Oh right, didn't think about that but then 16 is so late to get it.
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>>172221353
Maiev Shadowsong - Warcraft - Melee Warrior

Q-Shadow Strike - Deal X amount of dmg to an enemy, slow them for 20% and reduce their armor by 10. You can reactivate this skill to cast Blink for free, targeting behind the enemy regardless of distance. Lasts Y seconds.
W- Fan of Knives - AoE dmg. If enemy hit was affected by Shadow Strike, increase slow to 86%
E - Blink - Teleport to targeted location and become cloaked for X seconds. You are unrevealable for the first 1,5 seconds.
R1 - Spirit of Vengeance - Summon an indestructible spirit that attacks targeted enemy, slowing them with every attack. use R during the duration to change targets
R2 - Hunt is on or something whatever - Reduce Blink's cooldown to 1 second for X seconds.
Trait - Elusiveness - Whenever Maiev is cloaked, she recieves 40 spell armor
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>>172224390
sounds less bs than valeera
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>>172224390

>mobility and stealth warrior

Laffin @ ur dum idea familia
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>>172224390
Maiev as Warrior would literally be the best thing to ever happen.
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Brawls are interesting
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>>172224390
Hey, that's a cool Zeratul rework. But they never outright change ultimates, so don't bother putting in that much effort!
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>>172224390
>>172224524
>>172225689
I don't understand why you're so adamant about Maiev being a stealth hero. Stealth is definitely not a part of her character identity. If she's not a stealth hero, then she's absolutely not comparable to Zeratul or Valeera.
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>>172225265
this is unreal...
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>>172225870
All night elves must be stealth, it's the law. No, don't pay attention to the fact that Tyrande, Malfurion, and Illidan don't have stealth, that's irrelevant.
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>>172225265
Next level tyrande ult
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>>172225265
>Malfurion in the bloodlust brawl

enjoy that L
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>>172226147
Tyrande has stealth on her ulti.

Maiev obviously can work without stealth. My main requirement for her is a warrior, I for some reason need her to be one. Preferebaly a highly mobile warrior, maybe with heavy CC. Stealth is completely optional, but I guess stealth warrior could be original. Just imagine all those bodyblocks from invisible opponent.
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>>172227140
That's Hammer's stealth on siege.

>>172227379
Shit, I keep forgetting about that ult.
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>3man team and 2 randoms vs 5man team
Is Blizzard actually trying to kill this game off with this new matchmaking?
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>>172228039

>QM

Joke mode clown fiesta only constant etc
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>>172228039
if you're not playing along with 4 friends, you're doing it wrong
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>>172228039
Quick Match makes absolutely no sense.

There's Auto Select which is supposed to help make teams that make sense yet you can get shit like 3 support 2 specialist or 5 assassin teams. Are they even trying to build reasonable teams when it comes to role distribution?
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YOU ARE BAD TOYS VERY BAAA-AAD
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>>172228897

No, because not all heroes are the same even within roles. Look at the countless examples of "all squishy mage assassins vs all melee dive sustain assassins" or "3support 1 tank 1 assassin vs 4 assadsin and abathur" or whatever. QM caanot ever be balanced by design because you can't know any of the important variables ahead of time, and by nature of being a game focused on drafting and map/team synergy, even "balanced" teams woulf be imbala ced because one team would inherently have it better off on the given map purely by luck of heroes available compared to the other team.

Don't take QM seriously, do a draft mode if you want "fair" games.
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>>172228395
>implying it's fine the most popular mode is a joke
HL is also completely fucked because new accounts start in diamond

>>172228506
If the game is not fun alone, it's a shit game
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>>172229620
>draft is fair
Literal fucking cointoss who gets to ban first and thus dictate the pace.
Literally random which map you get.
It's not fair at all, everyone has just accepted this shit as normal.
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>>172230270
it's a shit solo game and a great team game.
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I wish this piece of shit game didn't run like ass.

my guess one of the reasons HotS failed to gain a big audience is that it doesn't run on toasters (or resonably well on midrange pcs for that matter)
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>>172225265
why not just use his lazor to decloak the hummer and let the turrets kill him?
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why am i (diamond1) matched with a full team of grandmasters even gm1
what the fuck is this trash
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>>172230963
my performance on a midrange pc toaster has been decreasing every patch

I used to play this game on medium/high settings now i have to play at minimum with ocasional frame drops
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Yo mortal dudes I need some help

I was chillin out by my core last night eating some dank Tributeâ„¢ seeds when this lanky-ass kyphotic faggot wearing fake horns came outta nowhere and started cutting up my realm with a scythe. When I told him to fuck off from my domain, he sperged out something about mines and shot missiles at me.

Does anyone know how I can get him to stop?
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>>172231383
Because he's an utter fucking moron.
Remember, no mmr based matchmaking in brawls.
GM vs Bronze is as normal as all Gold vs all Plat
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>play with a friend
>pick guldan and Lucio
>5 seconds to find a game
>15 win
>hotslog report +300 mmr points
>We are master in qm
>Searching a game take more time (1 minute or more)
>We start being matched with complete retards (15 wins with its Heroes level 9/10

Is it really trying to force this 50% bullshit on me ? My Friend had 95% winrate with lucio
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>>172232214

>qm

Laffing so hard at u
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>>172229620
At least it could try to make it so that there's no more than two of any role even if it doesn't guarantee a good team setup.

5 assassins is full on retarded but even more so is a team where you have no heroes capable of doing any kind of damage enough to be a threat.
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>>172232079
YOU ARE NO LONGER WELCOME HERE, RAVEN LORD!

I WILL NOT GO BACK TO THOSE WRETCHED MINES!
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Li Li needs a rework again
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>>172232079
REEEEEEEEE
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Can some lorefag explain this shit to me? Apparently Protoss are mammals according to LOTV, but how the fuck does that even work? I thought they were just created by the xel'naga in the beginning and lived on forever or some shit
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>>172235510
How do they even nurse if they don't have mouths?
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>>172235814

Nipples are for fun not food :3
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How is greatmeme these days?
Is there ever any reason to take the bullet ult?
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>>172235510
>>172235814
>>172235858
I want to mindbreak Selendis and Vorazun and turn them into whores for human cock.
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>>172230963
i play on a shitty laptop that could only run ffxiv at 10 fps and it runs fine
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>>172236328

If they have squishies you can get greedy multikill plays with GftT.
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>>172236328
I like to take him against mages.
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Things are fun when they work out sometimes.
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>>172238426
>q talent on 7
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>>172238709
But muh 220 dmg silences
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>>172238709
What else are you going to take in that tier? the lightning meme talent?
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>>172238910
Yes the lightning meme talent. More sustainability, more poke and more dmg in a late game teamfight.
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Haven't played in years. Has it been optimized to get better than 20 FPS? Is the balance disparity between the top heroes and bottom still like 60%?
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>>172239981

Depends and no. Everything is viable in the right hands/situation. Top winrates are 55% lowest winrate is like 45%.
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So News Tomorrow? It's going to be big right?
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How to make ressurrect not shit: It refunds the EXP you gave when you died
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>>172240380

Still not good.

The reason why aegis is so good is multifauceted.

>shorter cd
>basically cleanse and invulnerable
>gives energy
>does damage

Ressurect can't compete unless it does all of these things as well.
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>>172239981
>tfw 200 fps with everything at max in League
>40-50 in hots with a mixture of low-medium before temperatures start to rise
Feels bad.

>>172240380
It'd make it very slightly less worse, but see>>172240562
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>>172240380
What if it just revived all allies in an area, and gave the ones that were still alive an ok heal or shields or something?
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>>172240367
we just had something "big" this month (the new UI), I don't expect anything before this summer (if we are lucky)
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>>172240380
Longer range and the target reses where auriel is rather than where they died last.

It would still not be good though, because you can't use it in team fights because the cast time is too long so you are down an ult all game. Also auriel doesn't have a cleanse and aegis makes up for that a little as well.
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>>172241161
Anon it has to be. Probius is shit and the quietness is unnerving.
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>>172241923
>>172241161
>yfw it's a Zerg Larva hero
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So has FRANDS :DDD been rendered obsolete with the release of Jucio or is she still a competitive choice?
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tfw first pick alarak with alarak master picture and alarak master skin
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>>172242096
Yeah, lucio has better support, better healing and great team fighting ult, with better mobility and damage. The only thing BW has is her global teleport and poly. She is just a worse lucio.
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>>172242034
NOOOOOOOOOOO
I'll take another overwatch hero before that.
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>>172227292
This is the quality degeneracy I pay for. I gib you 8/8.
>>172242096
She fills the same role as Dehaka. Global presence. Everything else is lacking in comparison though with Lucio having shorter cooldowns on everything he does.
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>>172242034
>oc medic
>oc siege tank
>basically oc probe
>no oc zerg

hmm
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>>172204615
>>172205506
Anything for my little pumkins :3
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>>172242096
>bw had a talent to increase her passive healing for a short time to supliment for her slow healing
>took it away and gave it to lucio
>lucio also has % based healing
also

>tyrande's level 20 talent use to give 40% movement speed when you use her ult
>nerfed it to 30%
>lucio can boost to 45% aoe speed on a basic ability
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>>172242289
>>172242392

Fucking figures. I was all for them adding OW heroes before, but now that they've made my favorite support worse than a hue hue on rollerblades, my jimmies have been profoundly russled.
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>>172242096
She has global presence, a great position control ult, and single target burst mitigation.
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now i can finally uninstall this game
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>>172243358
>not gm

u suck
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>>172243358
Were you playing something you don't like all this time for meaningless numbers?
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>>172243358
>Master
>Not Grand Master
>He actually thinks he can leave
Sorry Anon but you here forever
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>>172243358
You cannot have your soul back until you beat Christopher Robin
http://games.kids.yahoo.co.jp/sports/013.html
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>>172243767
Where the FUCK is Moira???
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I want fire heroes. Are Ragnarosand Kael the only oned in the game?
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>>172243615
>>172243754
>>172243767
>>172243872
you bullies
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>>172244054
Gul'dan.

It's all green and stuff, though.

Also; Diablo.
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>>172244103
Is this the best league rank you can do?

Ugh, I've seen much better players.
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>>172244103
You can do it anon!
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>>172244054
Chen has a fiery breath.
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>>172244334
>>172244175
>tfw no Brand in HOtS
Just an angry dude made of lava who walks around shoots fire outta his face. Simple but effective.
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>>172240367
>yfw the big news are on april 1st about some meme hero
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>>172244475
>Maiev hero reveal on April 1st
How would you feel
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>>172244471
>literally Kael'thas

I do like his aesthetic, though.

and his pre-nerf Kael'thas levels of aoe damage when people clump up
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>>172244471
Fandral or Bolvar when?
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>>172244249
>>172244294
okay ill try...
>>
Are you truly the best this realm has to offer?
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>>172244475
>They'll show Kel'thuzad,Maiev and Stukov.
Nah jk here's Northshire footman
>>
>>172244054
Li Li gives you loin laden fire so why don't you just ask Blizz to cameo in the game?
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>>172245121
>Li Li gives your loins laden fire
bad anon
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want any tips faggots?
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Best support
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>>172245434
Yes, but just the tips.
>>
>>172245434
Is this all you do?

Imagine how much better you could be if you channeled your shitposting efforts into actually playing.
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>>172245539
first time posting ayy lmao
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>>172245434
Yeah, how much did you pay for the chinese to boost you?
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>>172244651
>they didn't swap releases of Probius and whatever next hero is
>tease probius
>actually release him

>>172245434
Oh, neat.

Thoughts on Lunara?
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>>172246130
I always wondered how degenerate you must be to actually be paying for boosts, i guess it's like in sports where the rich kid who's shit at the game but has the best equipment avaliable kek
>>
>>172079039
what's this
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>>172246729
lunara doesn't seem viable atm, naze is just better atm and grey eats lunara
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>>172247507
Broken dreams of thing to never coome.
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>>172247383
Yeah, that's what I used to think until I started selling boosts in various games.

and eventually bought them because I was just too tired and/or not having fun, just wanted the reward(s)

For favors or in-game currency, mind you.

>>172247507
Only dreams.
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Tfw you take the ability that gives your team block stacks, Aswell as the -60% attackspeed debuff for attackers, And then make butchers life hell
tfw you check after the game and he went offline from shame
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>no in-dev
>no teasers
>no news
>no updates
>no hope
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>>172246729
cute
>>
>Start playing
>Pick Tyrande cause I like cute supports
>Check her best talents
>She's best played when she's basically a ranged carry
>>
>>172249587
Yeah she can't support and has super low damage. She is in a really bad spot, the only thing you bring her for is her vauln, and then it's not that good. They are going to rework her because she has been pretty bad for like a year
>>
>>172151914
The amount of muscle mass of a protoss is inversely proportional to their physical strength.
>>
>>172249880
Really?
>>
>>172151449
>A named protoss builder character was rejected in favor to
>a
>fucking
>probe
>"SORRY GUYS WE ALREADY USED MOST OF STARCRAFT'S CHARACTERS"
>>
Should i bother finishing my placements if the best it'l be is 6/10?
>>
>>172250249

Sure why not? Afraid of bronze or something?
>>
>>172219774
Yeah it's kind of fucking shitty. I was super hype for a probe hero. Oh well.
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>>172250871
YOUR DREAMS WILL SHATTER

Shoulda bought Diablo instead senpai
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>tfw landing a nice long silence on tracer and watch her flaccidly flap around breaking her keybord by mashing q as she watches herself explode
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>>172251048
I have pretty much every hero I want tbqhwuf
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>>172248889
>>172247689
>No Hope
>Broken Dreams
Old Gods Hype??
>>
>>172251261
>No Alarak
No you don't you orifice slapper
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>>172251331
He has a nice voice, doesn't make me want to play him anymore than I did.
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>>172249827
Oh...well I hope she's good soon cause she was fun
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27th is passing soon (europoor here), I've lost hope and am preparing to go to sleep in an hour.

Will the secret illuminati meeting details be revealed when I wake up?
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>>172252298
She is one of the most fun heroes in the game, but just not good currently
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>>172252675
>36 minute game
>>
Indev this Monday they said
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>>172252985

They lied
People died
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>>172252985
WHEN
>>
Blizzard paid for all the content creators to be flown out to Irvine and be wined and dined for a week, there better be something good on the way.

Anything less than a new engine for the game will be a disappointment.
>>
>>172254106
What? Where are you seeing that this happened?
>>
>>172252675
She actually has the highest winrate in the game in master and grandmaster.
>>
>>172254106
>new engine

muh sides
I think we're stuck with twelve minute reconnects forever friendo
>>
>>172254281
https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/61uaok/heroes_summit_20_its_happening_what_are_they/

They do this once a year for all of their games, it doesn't cost them much compared to how much money the content creators bring them.
>>
>>172254337
At 8% popularity. She is basically only played when you are going to win anyway, she is really bad.
>>
>>172254539
Her winrate has gone up almost 10% since the patch, that's a very significant stat. I believe it's because arthas is so popular right now, it's easy to combo a stun off of him and hunters mark is very powerful for how easy it is to use
>>
>>172254467
Oh, so like who is even there? Is it like streamers? And they are out there right now for the week?
>>
>>172253195
fuck off lolbabby don't post in my thread ever again
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>>172255045
Selenity mentioned she was invited to that thing, no idea who else is there.
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>>172254940
She see so little play it's not really significant, a lot of the time at master/grandmaster you know when you have the better players on your team and can pick whoever you want. Only being played 8% of the time is really low, she is still bad even with Arthas being so good, now if non-tyrande mains started picking her up her winrate would plummet.
>>
lol didn't they literally say last indev that indev videos are going to be released twice as often now?
>>
>>172256634

No, they didn't.
>>
>>172256634
wasn't the last in-dev probius and the mounts we already knew about
>>
>>172256634
pretty sure they just said they want the shit to be as warm as possible not that there necessarily would be more of it.
>>
>>172256634
No, people keep making things up here and saying that they are doing things. You need to always get a source when someone says something here
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>>172256634
>Blizzard can't remember their Lore
>Blizzard can't remember their games
>Blizzard can't remember their release schedule
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>>172256942
>caring about blizzard's shit lore
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>>172256878
It was confirmed on reddit from an official.
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>>172257130
>not giving a fuck they killed Diablo franchise and only release shitty D3 characters instead of baal, mephisto, andariel, necromancer, sorceress, paladin, cain, ancients, akara, rakanishu, bishibosh or dark wanderer wanderer

yes even bishibosh or rakanishu is better than xul, auriel or whatever meme hero from D3
>>
>>172255045

Kiyeberries is there too, and she is cute, CUTE!!!1

Also holy fuck, Horsepants is a MANLET. Kiye is what, 1.52cm?
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>>172257130
After they butcher the titans and the olds god with LE IT WAS THE VOID THEHEHEHE yes I'm mad.
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>>172256634
>>172256763
>>172256878
>>172257296

from the probius in development post on plebbit
>>
what is the worst possible gul'dan build you could think of?
>>
>>172257801
Sargeras is in love with the unborn Azeroth titan after he saw her. She is the CUTEST titan to ever have existed!
>>
>>172257828
break
neck
speed
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>>172257834

Drain life and rain build
>>
>>172257742
shes a fat pig and her pants are too long wtf
>>
>>172257834
maybe this one http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/guldan#rtpu
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>>172258101
absolutely this
t. free week gul'dan main
>>
>>172257828
>we will release videos twice as fast!
>probius video with only the probius hero and release skins released 23 days ago
>in-dev videos before released every 4 weeks before with twice the content
BREAK. NECK. SPEED.
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>>172258369

Naw mate, she have fat in all the right places, also, she is a shortstack. THIKK, I pray Jesus everyday for it.

Also, I love her raspy voice and how she screams like 24/7. Also, that's how people used their jeans all the time back in the 00's. ALSO, yeah, I love her, but I love Lauralania (the drunk bitch) a bit more. Though, Kiye is more gf material.
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>>172259340
disgusting
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This is the most absurd skin I have ever seen
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>>172259661
>he hasn't seen that one Smite skin

That Jimmy one is pretty awful, though.

also skins in this game cost too fucking much
>>
>>172259661
FILL

'EM

FULL OF

DAYLIGHT

YIPPEE

KI

YAY
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>>172257828
>BREAK
>NECK
>SPEED
>>
>>172257828
>we were just plumbing the depths on the bare minimum to generate hype.
whatever they are announcing soon is going to be stretched so thin you'll be able to see through it.
>>
>>172259661

>FILL 'EM FULL OF DAYLIGHT

what did he mean by this?
>>
>>172259774
To be fucking honest like 90 percent of the default skins are better than the paid skins. Jimmy suffers from this.
>>
>>172259995
HITTEM HARD
AND FAST
HELL YEAH
WEGOTTHIS
>>
>check audio files
>turns out there are so much unused voice lines
>feelsbadman.jpg
>>
>>172260031
Yeah, actually.

>default skin and tints
>master skin and tints

It's a reasonable amount of free skin stuff, most of which is usually good.
>>
>>172259995
Open holes with bullets so the light can fill them.
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What do your bottom three maps say about you?
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>>172260370

Most of them were used for the emote wheel that was scrapped around open beta.
>>
I hate it when pubs and jajas are yelling at me for "doing nothing" with Azmodan. Just because I'm not jumping into teamfights to AA or laser people doesn't mean I'm not doing anything. I'm typically topping siege and xp, I'm running left and right to keep the lanes pushed up. But do they care? No, they only see me not being in melee range of a teamfight and assume I'm just walking around afk.

Being the general of hell is lowkey stressful.
>>
>>172260578
Meanwhile on the enemy team: SOMEONE FUCKIN STOP AZMODANS LANE PUSHING OH MY GOD
>>
>>172260532
Do new heroes still get those emote lines? Is there still hope?
>>
>>172260370
>tfw no gifting

>>172260578
>everybody on the other team spam pinging the Azmodan because he's taking structures for free
>>
>>172260578

Can you spot the bronze picking Azmodan? BRONZE
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>>172087557

Deliver some divine retribution and lead us to banter, oh angel of assholes.
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>>172260578
playing against le fat lazor man of global lane pressure is lowkey stressful desu
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>"ffs Leoric why havent you started the teamfight by jumping into Diablo + Dehaka + Kerrigan yet? ur the tank"
>>
>>172258873
>health funnel
>bad
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>>172261049
>Imperius/Tyrael banter quotes
>Imperius/Leoric banter quotes
>Imperius/Alarak banter quotes
They seriously need to capitalize on the VA and this game will be a lot more fun.
>>
>>172261142
>wtf leoric why didn't you save me?
>says the Greymane not realizing we pinged retreat no less than 13 times standing alone inbetween three enemies
Sometimes I wonder where they come from. I quickly discard that train of thought, it's too scary to follow, really.
>>
Who's the best hero to play if you never want to interact with your dumbass allies the entire match?
>>
>>172243358
>people still think Lucio is an amputee

kek
>>
>>172264049
guldan or ragnaros, they have everything and can sustain themselves

are also two of the best assassins
>>
>>172264094
Well isn't he?
>>
>>172264808
Lucio is actually a hyper advanced omnic saboteur.
>>
>>172264808
I believe Blizzard confirmed that Lucio is not an amputee.
>>
>>172173715
The range is a nice bonus, and the cone hits the whole wave. It's not amazing, but if you are going Q build anyway on a map with a bunch of waveclear it is definitely worth it
>>
>>172259661
>>172259774
You sound like a commie terrorist.
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Are there seriously Grandmaster players who don't know about Heroes Esports?

I would think you would have a passing interest in the scene if you played that much at a high level
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Is Leoric a meme hero or is he still good?
>>
Don't know what team to pick for the stimpacks.
>>
>>172265989
hes pretty bad atm
you can do some shit with his entomb ult
>>
>>172265919
watch alextheprog stream

literally clueless retards in diamond+, the top 2% of players
>>
>>172265989
YOU CANNOT MEME THAT WHICH HAS NO LIFE
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>Winning 10 games in a row as Rag
>Only can play him in QM

Can't wait to finally play him once an even more insane OP hero gets released/reworked
>>
>>172266308
>Whack-a-dwarf
>Not Whack-an-INSECT
>>
>>172266053
that's because you have to be a clueless retard to play this game over any other MOBA
>>
>>172266053
I like Alex's stream because he plays the same heroes I like(Arthas, Anub, Dehaka), but damn he gets so tilted over the smallest errors his team makes

I can understand getting upset when someone gets caught 20 minutes in and loses the game, but he gets mad over little rotation errors at level 3
>>
>>172260214
>heh, right between the eyes

Is Raynor a psychopath?
>>
>>172265989
Good solo laner, that's about it. He can actually bully Rag pretty hard out of lane with Drain and Fealty Unto Death.
>>
>>172267315
Let's see
>Saw entire planets be overrun by zerg
>Saw millions of people die
>Saw his gf become zerg and kill millions more
>Had to kill his best friend
>Saw crazy shit with Zeratul's visions
>Entered the void and learned about the beings who quite literally created the universe
>Still acts like he's still just a chill dude
Among other crazy shit. You can safely say his mind is not the most stable behind that smug.
>>
>April fools day joke hero
It's gonna be Kel'Thuzad, except it's gonna be wacky hearthstone Kel'Thuzad
>>
>>172267863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuD5pgmtVs4
>>
>>172267863
>They reveal Sukov, mengsk, KT and Maiev
>Releasing April 2nd, 2019
>>
>>172219349
The problem is, they said they didn't want to have another hero that spawned summoned units in combat.

Yet they made Probius all this time later, who clutters up the screen with shit that he summons.

So when you start working on a character who is infamous for his ability to command the undead in combat... maybe you should just hold the fuck off on making him until it's okay to make another summoning hero again, so you can do him properly. Not make an entirely new identity for him.
>>
>>172268632

They said they don't want too many. That doesn't mean never.
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What the fuck do I take on 20
>>
>>172268765
INVISIBILITY
>>
>>172268765

>Losing? Need wave clear?
Guardian of Tirisfal

>Got a bunch of mages or a healer that needs a boost? Mana a problem?
Arcane Brilliance

>Wanna meme?
Any of the rest
>>
>>172268765

>bird move speed talent and not portal duration

laffin
>>
>>172268765
list of talent "choices" on medivh that matter when playing solo:
>>
>>172269017
I know that's suppose to be the better choice but this map is fucking huge
>>
>>172268747
No, but when that's a statement made following the reease of Xul and why his skeletons aren't to be used in combat, it kind of leads one to believe they didn't want THAT at the time. But that's my point, like, if they care so much about fantasy and getting characters right, as lame as it might feel to US for a longer period of time, why not just hold back on him until you can do him "proper" so he fits his fantasy and iconic status as well as possible.
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>>172266308
>self healing like crazy
>reliable poke
>gives speed boosts
>strongest burst damage ult in da game on a 60 sec CD
>trait is better than most ults

What were they thinking?
>>
>>172265919
Mene is a bully
Would not play with/10
>>
>>172269210

Sometimes the fantasy of the character sucks and they make a different one. Having 10,000 skeletons was only fun in D2 because it was a mindless AFK build and many units amazed us as children. It doesn't translate to this game because of how cancerous it was so they made a more rounded kit from what they could.
>>
So, is it still possible to get any free shit from Heroes of the Dorm?
If so, which team should I pick to at least get a stimpack or something.
>>
>>172268765
>>172268846
I once used invisibility on Cho'Gall and Butcher, funniest talent ever
>>
>>172264808
Blizzard confirmed that Junkrat is the only amputee despite the in game models clearly showing otherwise.
>>
>>172269952
>[Invisible FURESH MEAT in the distance]
>jing Jing JIng JING
>>
Is Samuro a good hero yet
>>
>>172265989
A good choice against a lot of warriors, but personally I just can't stand playing him. 90% of his damage and sustain is based on hitting drain life

I would like his Q to be stronger again. It got nerfed right before scaling changes and he never really recovered
>>
>Ragnaros' 3 color palettes are virtually identical
>on all his skins

Wasted opportunity desu
Seriously, what the fuck.
>>
>>172270238
Blizzard said that they couldn't do much with his skins and alt colors because he's made of fire and his texture is pretty funky. That's why he looks a lot different than his WoW versions and can't mount

Only solution is a completely different model like lil' rag
>>
>>172270036
Are you sure?
I thought they confirmed at least Torb and McCree as amputees as well.
Incidentally, Torb would be a perfect addition to HotS, I hope they announce him soon.
>>
>>172269390
They didn't need to have a million skeletons in Xul's kit for it to have translated well. 2-3 would have been perfectly fine. Even a single one could have if they played it right.

In this case the fantasy of the character did not suck, as it was largely the fantasy of the character that made him such a popular pick on "TOP WANTED LISTS" in the first place.
>>
>>172270924
Forgot about those two, but yeah think they confirmed them as well.

Torb would be terrible because they said Gaz is the only sustain damage Builder and Probius is the only burst damage Builder.
Which is bullshit.
>>
Kharazim should be reclassified as a Multi-Class.
>>
>>172270924
>Torb would be a perfect addition to HotS
Literally gazlowe
>>
>>172271186
Same for Tyrande.
And make Medivh a support.
And Ragnaros a specialist.
>>
>>172271117
>>172271232
Can Gazlowe give armor packs to his team?
I'm not trying to be a smartass, I have literally never played him and I very rarely see him in the game.
I don't like Goblins
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>>172216831
>iktf
>>
>>172271232
Eh, no, I don't think so.

>only one turret
>it's able to be repaired
>stronger than Gaz turret, can be upgraded
>no idea about left click, but shotgun basic attack
>drop armor packs which function as little (15% max health) shields to allies with an indefinite duration

Something like that. I could see it.

>>172271531
We'll probably get D.va, Reinhardt, Genji or most of the other Heroes first, though.
>>
>>172271531
First of all, fuck you, Goblins are the best (After Trolls)

Second, no, he can't. If he could, he'd be more useful. As it stands he's nothing but an immobile hero with greatly telegraphed abilities that are easy to avoid, and far too reliant on his team picking and playing around him. Which is why he's so nonviable despite their best efforts via "Reworks".
>>
why am i getting a bunch of shitty zeratuls in my games lately
>>
>>172271880
>>172271880

NEW THREAD MOVE NOW
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>>172272149
Moving now.
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