/pg/ - Persona General

Anal with Makoto!

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Is she... /ourgirl/?

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Ryuji is a _______

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>>171995995

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I'M LETTING LOOSE

>>171996269
God fuck this

>>171996141
>him
Women ruined it. Just like men ruined the P3 and P4 localization.

>>171996242
d-bag

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>>171985680
you can't convince people to leave the cave of shadows, they have to leave on their own.

we can only hope they see the light of our weaboo way, in time, when they are ready.

So, are they basically just trying really hard to make Ryuji in to Junpei: 2017 edition?

>>171996394
But /ourguy/ Vic Mignogna was the best part about the P3 dub.

this will be a THREADLY REMINDER from now on

https://twitter.com/randomfox/status/845414021327044610

>>171996465
Only because he's Christian and still has amoral compass unlike most people in North America

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>Anne is sweaty!
>Anne is buxom!
>Anne is beautiful!
>Anne is wet!
>Anne is cute!
>Anne is flexible!
>Anne is an angel!
>Anne is lewd!
>Anne is sad!
>Anne is silly!
>Anne is for kisses!
>Anne is stylish!
>Anne is for sexual!
>Anne is awesome!
>Anne is sultry!
>Anne is pure!
>Anne is amused!
>Anne is quality!
>Anne is Lovers!
>Anne is canon!
>Anne is an apricot!
>Anne is an actress!
>Anne is a model!
>Anne is Santa Claus!
>Anne is Anne, not Ann!
>Anne is best girl!

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>>171996516
>She literally fucked up and said "Mah" instead of "Moh".
>You can literally hear where she fucked up in that comparison.
>"No they told me to do it like that."

>>171996683
It's likely they actually were told to fuck up. What are the odds that no one would know how to pronounce it correctly?

Fuck John Hardin, fuck Erika Harlacher, fuck Atlus USA as a localizer, translator and as a motherfucking company! And if you want to be down with Atlus USA, then fuck you too!

All of y'all motherfuckers, fuck you; die slow, motherfucker. My .44 make sure all y'all kids don't grow!

>>171996831
she tried to justify mispronouncing it in english it too >>171995152

wouldn't be too surprised if she's bullshitting the "we were told to pronounce it like that!" part

>>171996831
>What are the odds that no one would know how to pronounce it correctly?
The fact that most Persona fans aren't weebs, or EOP. They will eat up anything. See P4.

>>171996967
>wouldn't be too surprised if she's bullshitting the "we were told to pronounce it like that!" part
Given that literally everyone says it the same way, I doubt she's making that up. The part I take issue with is the claim that it was "the JP team" that told them to pronounce it that way, that's total bullshit - it was definitely the English voice director.

>>171996967
Maybe, but if so it means the voice director never told them otherwise. At the end of the day the buck stops with the voice director - it's their job to teach the actors how to pronounce names. It isn't the actor's job to come into the job knowing how Japanese pronunciation works.

>>171996967
>american words

Is this bitch retarded? Where do they find these people?

desu I'm only interested in seeing how the others ended up being dubbed. Futaba was the one bothering me the most in the prologue

>implying everyone here won't buy the game and probably all DLC to fully support practices like this shit

>>171996967
>>171997007
>tfw not a deaf retard
>tfw you can hear a Jap pronounce a word and know how to pronounce it afterwards because you're not a fucking moron.
This is my super power.

>>171997089
>It isn't the actor's job to come into the job knowing how Japanese pronunciation works.
Like how it's spelt?
Does she pronounce "Tokyo" like "Twokuhyo"?

>>171997089
oh the voice director's definitely at fault too

that's been obvious for a while though

>>171997046
that's possible too

i'm not buying that any of the jp staff told them to intentionally fuck up names, the fact she's justifying it with basically "foreign names sound odd when used in a different language, gotta change the pronounciation!" just makes it seem even more fishy

>Sup dude gets a pass because everyone was 8yo back then
>Whaddup is a sin


You are poor attempts of human beings

>>171997170
Morgana and Futaba are the worst of the lot by quite a margin - both of them having top tier Japanese voices certainly doesn't help. Ryuji is genuinely good, everyone else is mediocre or miscast, but not offensively bad like Morgana and Futaba. I'm already hearing frequent reused main character voices for NPCs and the like too and have barely seen more than a few hours, not that I wasn't already expecting this to be an issue based on past Atlus dubs.

>>171997326
You shut your whore mouth, Junpei is a national treasure.

Ryuji is just a fag.

>>171997326
this tbqh. we were suppose to grow up after P3 and move on past video games (aka kids toys), not be manchilds and be around for P5.

feels bad man

>>171997246
>you can hear a Jap pronounce a word and know how to pronounce it afterwards because you're not a fucking moron.

This is what I don't fucking understand. There is no excuse for them mispronouncing anything when they can just reference the original. This is pure amateur shit and it's embarrassing.

Will western Atlus become the new Treehouse in the future?

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>Naotofags will defend the fact that their waifu's VA completely fucked up P5's dub

>>171997326
there is literally nothing wrong with whaddup

>>171997283
>"foreign names sound odd when used in a different language, gotta change the pronounciation!"
And then they go and intentionally pronounce Arsène correctly too

>>171997435
>when they can just reference the original.
What reference? They walk into a booth, read the lines single take unless they say the wrong words outright, and then walk out.

>Women in charge of not fucking up
>>171997447
Naoto's original VA didn't fuck anything up. Its the recast.

>>171997447
What did Romi Park do to P5's dub?

Play in Japanese voice acting. You'll thank me.

>>171997645
>Jap audio will fix the text

>>171997645
nah bro i was totally considering the dub

>>171997645
holy shit man you really opened my eyes just now. thank you so much man

>>171997645
Bro I planned on it since it was announced. Ain't ever touching the dub.

>>171997681
Then what the hell do you want?

>>171997681
the text is fine
t. someone who was autistic enough to play their jap copy of p5 in sync with an english stream and check each individual line

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Makoto's voice isn't deep enough. It bugs the shit out of me.

>>171997447
>Romi Park ruined P5
>Naoto's original VA, [REDACTED] fucked up P5
???

>>171997810
Jesus dude. How long did you clock in the game having to do that?

>>171997878
>Makoto's voice isn't deep enough. It bugs the shit out of me.
Why are you bothered by a voice you won't listen to?

>>171997785
A translation that doesn't fuck everything up but either being super stilted, flat out mistranslated or being full of memes which Atlus USA does all three consistently.

Honestly, just shut Atlus USA down and give it to someone like XSEED.

>>171997810
we're just sitting around picking apart lines because the game isn't out yet, it's to pass the time. hell the dub kinda grows on you after the first hour of play time, same with the font. the amount of complaining will go way down when everyone has the game.

The English intro sounds especially bad (starts 4:27 in):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVtGwPFEikU

Everyone of the girls with the same high pitched voice, and Morgana too. I can honestly see people starting this up and laughing at the shitty quality of the voice work.

Phantom is from Sumaru City!

>>171997913
What
I meant I had my Jap copy at the ready and was going through it line by line while watching one of yesterday's streams of the English copy and was comparing the two, the dialogue is incredibly accurate and the changes minimal
Heck, for almost all lines they've seemingly intentionally kept the Japanese sentence structure so as not to have the subs be jarringly different
Listening to both though, Morgana does sound really bad in English and lacks any of the energy the Jap one has, but dual audio will fix that

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>>171997939
Because at one point in time John "Fuck The Nipponese" Hardin assured me I would be forced to either hear it, or hear nothing at all, so I tried to get used to it.

VA miscasts, regardless of whether or not I hear them constantly, annoy me.

>/v/ threads being negative of Persona 5 are getting deleted
>"Dual audio will fix it" now being posted here
Gets my neurons firing

>>171998031
holy fuck that guy is hammering that keyboard

>>171997964
>hell the dub kinda grows on you after the first hour of play time
fucking shill. Tae, Makoto, and Futaba sound like complete trash and aren't even in the game by then.

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>Yakuza 0, a game literally nobody gave a shit about until it came out, releases with a pretty solid localization
>Persona 5, Atlus's BIGGEST FUCKING TITLE IN YEARS comes out, and has this shit for a localization

I'd like to think this is another Aliens:CM/Borderlands 2 situation but Atlus can't possibly be that retarded

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>>171997326
whaddup just has meme value, it's far from a terrible mistake or anything

>>171997954
>Honestly, just shut Atlus USA down and give it to someone like XSEED.
Why so we can play it three years from now when they finally finish it, with dank memes instead of "Wassup"?

Oh and the special edition will give you 5 random trading cards and a CD in a slip with 4 songs.

>>171998127
Oh I thought you meant you played through the entire game or something reading a translation. My bad. Regardless that's good to hear. How do you keep japanese sentence structure though out of curiosity? Isn't it reversed compared to english? I don't know much about translating.

>>171998343
>XSEED replaces Jap memes with western memes
Whoa

>>171997954
Bro XSEED is trash. I mean I greatly appreciate their efforts to bring over games most companies probably wouldn't touch but their translations are pretty bad and barebones.

>>171998424
Xseed replaces non-meme sentences with jokes and memes, too.

>>171998238
I mostly mean Ryuji and Anne and Morgana which of course have the most lines. Sojiro and Tae are trash. Futaba is meh but passable, same with makoto tbqh

I'm just talking from the shoes of the average person (90% probably) that will play with the dub, they'll get over it. Of course everyone here will play with the sub as it should be.

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will there be P5 fan translation?

>>171998541
>>171998643
Wanna know how I know you haven't played a game done by XSEED? Because you're describing NISA.

>>171998739
Wrong.

XSeed's games work on a technical level.

>>171998417
>How do you keep japanese sentence structure though out of curiosity?
Nah I don't mean they literally wrote it like that, but like they aimed to have pauses fall in line with where they'd be in Jap, have lines that have stuttering follow the same way as Jap, and for brief exclamations things are kept brief in English
They use names basically 1:1 with Jap too, if someone has an honorific it's the same, if someone uses their full name it's the same, and stuff like that
Even for the unvoiced lines they were keeping this up when they didn't have to since people wouldn't really notice them without voices
Ryuji speaks really roughly in Jap, and I do think it's a tad overdone here, but it's got reason to be there and isn't awful
Even the "I'm bad to the bone" line is actually accurate and /pg/ are pretending they know shit when どうも isn't being said as "thanks" but being used to introduce himself saying "yes, that's me, the rumored bad guy"

>>171998738
How would that be implemented?

>>171998872
>Even the "I'm bad to the bone" line is actually accurate and /pg/ are pretending they know shit when どうも isn't being said as "thanks" but being used to introduce himself saying "yes, that's me, the rumored bad guy"
This kills the /pg/ autists

>>171998739
Xseed is worse than Nisa at this point

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>>171998127
Yeah, most of the translation is... okay so far. It's far from stellar, a lot of it sounds stilted, and while I don't mind Ryuji's dialogue it does feel like they had trouble getting his informal speech across and went a little overboard, but it's serviceable.

What has me worried is things like changing the どうも option in the scene where Anne opens up to Joker during the Kamoshida arc to "I'm bad to the bone" - it's still somewhat minor in that case, just tone-deaf to the rest of the scene, but if more of those kinds of changes rear their head in more important scenes, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with something on par with Persona 3's wonky translation for the October 4th scenes where the tone in the localization is so off and leaves out so many smaller details that it affects how the scene comes across to players.

Most of the scenes where that could be a problem are around mid- to lategame, though, so it's going to be a while until we'll be able to see what the localization is like for those parts.

@171998978
So you're just shitposting. No more (You)s from me.
>>>/v/

>>171999051
Then give 8854 my (You) faggot,

>>171999012
>What has me worried is things like changing the どうも option in the scene where Anne opens up to Joker during the Kamoshida arc to "I'm bad to the bone"
He's not saying "thanks"
He's saying "that's me" essentially, when she's asking about the rumors
Writing, "yes that's me the rumored person" is rather long winded so they went with that
He does an animation where he pushes up his glasses to look cool when you pick that option and Anne laughs
It's not even a change, they knew what they were doing

>>171999051
Modern Xseed is literally worst than Nisa Extella was translated very badly

>First time back here after ~ a month

What the eff is going on

>>171999501
/v/ leaking in since threads are getting deleted. Give it a few hours and it will go back to being dead with the occasionally outrage over some line.

>>171999501
>Wadda eff is goin' on in her'

fixed.

>>171999501
Wassup... old poster.

>>171999501
Everyone bein' d-bags

is it true you can tell Goro to fuck (eff) off in a NG+ dialogue option?

>>171999705
yes and you can save him and make him your boyfriend too

Who should I romance

>>171999809
Goro

>>171999809
Ryuji

>>171999809
me

>>171999809
Your mom's dick

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>>171999274
I didn't pick that option during my playthroughs, admittedly, so I didn't see the followup animation and Anne's response to it.

That said, I still feel like the localization for that option's a bit too over the top compared to the original one - as I said, it's still somewhat minor, but tonal differences like that can stack up if there's too many of them. May end up not being a problem in the full game, but it's something to keep an eye out for just in case.

>>171999705
None of the dialogue options toward Goro are locked to NG+.

>>171999809
Sensei

>>171999809
Goro

So, people have their hands on early copies? How far are they?

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>>172000071
no one got to the castle boss fight before twitch went to start taking them down

>>171999953
Am I the only one that thinks "bad to the bone" fits Joker's character well? He tries to be a funny guy, in day to day life it's being awkward or snarky, while as a thief it's through taunts and general cockiness

>>172000071
everyone stopped after meeting Sojiro because they'd rather wait for Nip voices

>>172000372
Are you a woman by chance?

>>172000440
No I'm a competent person, but mass outrage over every detail isn't rational and something women tend to do. The dub is ass for sure, but I can see why certain decisions were made.

I just got Ryuji Sakamoto'd, /pg/

Cheer me up with cute Harus

>>171998315
Atlus didn't localize Yakuza 0. There's a third-party studio that Sega has contracted to localize Yakuza games for years now. For Yakuza 0 they just pulled like two employees from Atlus USA to do a second pass on UI elements and stuff (yeah sounds epic and ironic considering P5's UI but previous Yakuza games used to just cut some of this stuff completely)

>tfw you realize Goro's tie matches Loki

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>>172001160

Smaller review sites are only getting codes a couple days before launch.

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>>172001218
I want to touch those Harus.

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>>172000372
It's not that it doesn't fit his personality (he does get some overt joking responses, even in certain serious scenes), but more that it's a bit much for that specific scene, at least in my opinion. The original is a pretty light joke, so swapping it out for a pop culture reference seems excessive in comparison.

There's probably a better middle ground they could've gone for to keep the light joking tone from the original option without going for a full-on reference joke, but I'd need a little more time to come up with a suggestion.

>>172001281
What would even be the point? Their reviews won't be out until May. May as well just not give them anything at all.

>>172000584
The outrage is necessary at this point you braindead womb, if we keep quiet we're never going to stop being funneled dogshit from Atlus.

I hope P5 crimson lets you change joker's street clothes

>>172001450
I hope crimson let me play as a girl

>>172001339
I want Haru's harus to get sore and heavy with milk until her shirt is ready to burst open so that I can suckle them

>>172001450
I hope P5 crimson never comes out in the west

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>>172001450
P6 should have a customizable MC

It'd be hard with the anime cutscenes but with the new engine you really don't need them desu

>>172001450
I don't think they will re-release it. At least not until the PS5 is out.

>>172001438
Protecting the big guys.

>>172001637
We'll find out in another day. It's a great time to re-release with all DLC

>>172001657
I do not comprehend.

>Sony won't cancel my preorder
For the players my ass.

>>172001621
but muh spin offs and anime adaptations

Post your P5 crimson wishlists

>>172001745
The mainstream people that autists make archive links thinking the 20 or so clicks will make a difference.

>>172001845
How is it protecting the Big Guys?

>>172001381
I guess the reference is a bit much, something like "yeah, watch out or I'll beat you too" would've been better, but the probably couldn't space it since AtlusUSA isn't skilled enough to edit the game too much.

You know why they pronouce it Suck-Mah-Toe? Because Ryuji only gets to suck on Anne's toes while her watches Joker go balls deep

>>172001924
They have the reviews at launch and the traffic.

>>172002012
Not that bad of a fate.

Can someone direct me to the highest quality Haru porn there is

>>172001439
Not when you're deliberately using buzzwords against women, they'll just blame it on altrighters and gamergaters like they do with anything women fuck up. In the end AtlusUSA won't give a shit when 75% of the numales online tell them how good the dub is.

>>172002128
Haru is classy, there is no porn of her.

Say it with me Ahn Suckmahtoe

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I hope Makoto doesn't become the new Chie.

Fuck Chiefags are annoying.

>>172002512
Don't worry she's already the new Naoto

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>>172001941
Yeah, length might be a problem for that one. Maybe something like "why yes, I am"? That's short, but still plays off of her phrasing. It's a light sort of joking, but combined with the followup animation, it might get the job done without going too overboard.

>>172002621
I'm a Naotofag so that's fine.

>>172002621
So she's trans?

Are all the posters that left going to come back after the US release?

>>172002621
Wasn't she the new aigis?

I take it she's pretty much what annoys people because it's more popular than what they support

>>172003580
probably. including autists like chihibro unfortunately

remember that one guy on reddit who was convinced that Haru was trans

>>172003580
maybe? how are we supposed to know

>>172003756
Aigis hater here, Makoto is not the new Aigis unless you're a faggot.

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This is your Ann Tahkahmahkey for tonight

>>172004526
Oh that's why she keeps the tape on.

>>172004526
gonna play the game in japanese, What is she going to do about that?

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>/pg/ is all butthurt about Persona 5
>Playing it since yesterday and its fantastic
Continue to be salty weebs while the rest of us will be enjoying it

>>172004760
dude if you want some (You)s you just have to ask, no need to be mean

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>>172004760
>been playing it since seven months ago
Enjoy your shit dub fag

>>172004950
>Plays a game he doesn't understand
/pg/ in a nutshell lmao.

>>172005071
>Plays a game he doesn't understand
Except that's wrong

>>172005287
The only thing wrong is this general
>drops mic
>closes thread

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>>172005287
DELETE THIS IF I CAN'T LEARN JAPANESE NO ONE CAN

/pg/ is dead!

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do your worst, /pg/

Life is a scam.

I unironically like what Daymond did for Goro. My friend said he sounds like those princes from Disney films but I think that's fitting for his outward personality.

>>172007434
The dub VA is actually pretty good, just with some serious miscasts and mispronunciations that are purely the fault of the director.

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>>172007434

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>>172007596
>At least you're using protection
Why would I do that?

>>172007596
not bad

>>172007692
he means wearing a safety harness

>>172007434
daymond pulling the detective prince act off well was a given, he's good at those roles

the question's if he'll pull off the lategame scenes well too

>>172007764
I'm really finding his voice pleasant so far but yes, the big question is whether he can do the batshit Goro justice.

Fuck off dubfags

>>172007596
>Morgana not being sad
oh come on, if you are dating Anne he's actually closer to being a cuck than Ryuji

>>172008159
>dubfags

is that what d-bags stands for?

>>172007434
Where are you guys seeing this?

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>>172007596

>>172008529
in our hearts

>>172008529
Somebody posted the sae-goro scene in english in the last thread.

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Akira Kurusu is for _____!

>>172009884
being bad to the bone

>>172009884
>Akira Kurusu

Kill youself.

>>172009884
the manga only

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>Yusuke will outshine Goro as best boy to EOPs

How does this make you feel, /pg/?

What happened to the shin ending?

>>172010396
What makes you think that?

>>172010632
He's voiced by Matt Mercer and is the comic relief character. Sound familiar?

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>tfw no Fuuka to cuddle and be comfy with.

What is the first thing you will do with you P5 copy

>>172011983
Download the dual audio

>>172011983
>being this late

kys

>>172011983
hotglue it

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Persona Go when

>>172012262
Wouldn't you rather have a Persona MMORPG with built in ERP mechanics?

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>>172012306
>ERP with other /pg/ anons
N-No thanks

>>172012549
It's for the sake of getting the ultimate persona.

>>172012632
Alright then
Which /pg/ anons do I have to ERP with?

>>172012906
My_Great_Capture, Chihibro, John Hardin, Erika Harlacher, and Forehead Anon

>>172010727
Chrom?

>unironically decent dub voice
Ryuji
Goro

>could be better
Anne
Yusuke
Haru

>bad
Makoto
Morgana
Futaba
Joker

>>172012989
Well shit
I mean, Forehead Anon is cool but the rest is terrible
Can I ERP with the autistic femanon who runs that pastebin instead?

>>172013267
It seems that besides Iwai, nearly all the co-ops are horrifyingly bad.

>>172013367
Sensei is alright, Toranosuke is great. The rest are bad.

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>>172013165
holy fuck

>>172013418
>Sensei is alright

Please go away

>>172013418
>Sensei
I just can't deal with Yukari voice coming out of a different character's mouth, she's acting as if she was told Sadayo was Yukari only a few years older.

She sounded much different as Katherine, what gives?

>>172013568
>She sounded much different as Katherine, what gives?
it's as if there's a large quality gap between the overall p5 dub and catherine's

>>172013630
>Done by the same director
Whoa. Its almost as if Atlus USA is sabotaging Persona.

>>172013651
Catherine was a union production. Was P5? Probably higher standards.

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>>171996568

>>172014169
nice open quote marks fatlus

>>172014169
delete this
anne is anon's love is pure

>>172014169
subtle

>>172014169
>dirtbag
pls

>>172014193
the japanese version has separate characters for open and closed speech marks
but atlus only used one type
nice

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YEAH

OKAY OKAY

I AM JAPANESE

HA HA HA HA HA

>>172015037
Wassup! America effin rocks!

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What up? We're three cool guys who are looking for other cool guys who want to hang out in our coffee shop. Nothing sexual. Dudes in good shape encouraged. If you're fat, you should be able to find humor in the little things. Again, nothing sexual

>>172015303
you think they ever checked each other out in the baths? not in a gay way though

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>>172015460
Yeah

>>172008206
it feels crueler and less funny when morgana is the butt of the joke though

>>172008206
Isn't there a AnneXJoker doujin where it shows Morgana watching them fuck and sheds a single tear?

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>Ryuji visits a sex shop for cuckold porn

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>>172015890
That's the prologue to an AnnexMorgana doujin where he gets a human body or takes over joker's or something

no one ever scanned it

>>172016193
>Freakin' causal
I hope he is talking about video games for the context to make sense

>>172016193
>freakin
>shit
ryuji casually cursing in english isn't unfitting, but fuck could they at least be consistent with it?

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>>172016193
Iwai's accusing him of being a beginner and not a "gun maniac" like he claims - so the translation fits I guess.
Still I don't know why they couldn't just go with "beginner" in English.

>>172016425
beginner does sound a little odd when you're talking about a broad interest instead of a specific hobby, but not significantly. at least they didn't go with noob

https://my.mixtape.moe/mjjkpk.mp3

defend this

>>172016742
wew lad

>Is that a Persona in your pants or are you happy to see me?
Really, Atlus?

Think I'll start posting my stupid shit here instead since the /v/ threads are infested with cancerous faggots who eat up all the tripe Atlus USA shits out.

>>172017556
sorry /pg/ is only for homegrown stupid shit

>weebfags are so insecure the only they talk about is the english dub
kek

>172017669
Embarassing how you can't even type in English correctly.

Have a gratis, fake (You). On the house.

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lol

>>172018236
>announce dual audio to try and get people to not complain so much about the delay
>instead they get even angrier about the delay
I bet PR was feeling fucking dumb after that one

>>172018271
Hence why John got laid off

>>172018271
they were probably fucked no matter what desu. tying it to the dual audio announcement as a make-good seems like a good idea on paper

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A classic

There's something about the plot in Persona 4 that I don't get.

If every day is great at Junes, why would Adachi mind moving so close to one? Even so, be so bored that he started killing people? I can imagine that deranged people maybe don't understand what makes Junes great but I still feel like the writer of the game overlooked this.

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>that warning

too bad no one will scan it because it's genderbent.

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>>171998541
>>171998643
XSEED is fine. Far better than Atlus USA in any case

>>172020390
HIGH IMPACT SEXUAL VIOLENCE

>>172020390
i hope she pegs the hell out of him. multiple prostate orgasms and oozing cum.

>>172020167
Maybe he had multiple of them close to his apartament back on Port Island and was pissed Inaba had only one and it was further away.

DAGANA SHUJIN

>genderbent

Puke

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>>172019639
This kind of cop out is always funny, but then disappointing afterwards.

EDGE gave Persona 5 a 8/10

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never 4get

>>172021357
source

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>>172020437
nah, they're pretty bad.
glad Pqube BTFOd them by not even using the dub for the EU release

>>172021601
Im talking translation, not voice acting.
The important part.

>>172021357
>gave P4 a 9
Fucking kill these retards

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1355289

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>>172021357
:^)

>>172021357
Still too high

>>172021756
>>172021357
>Caring about review scores.
Don't bring that shit here, let the normie audience bicker about it elsewhere.

/pg/ - NeoGAF General

>>172021357
guess who's never getting a review copy from atlus again

>>172021756
>All that "EDGE just hates jRPGs" despite them giving P4 a 9.
The butthurt begins

>>171997046
>>171997283

It's actually possible. There have been instances where the Japanese staff micromanaged and forced unnatural butchering to parts of the english version and dub because the think they know english better than the actual people that speak it.

That probably didn't happen here (if anything the opposite, Atlus JP didn't bother paying attention to the English version at all, seems to be the case) but it is something that could have happened.

>>172021357
hahaha persona5fags fucking destroyed

>On reading the review of Persona 5.

>I think it comes down to it just not being different enough from the previous Persona games. (They also mention the share function is not working on PS4 but I don't think that affected the score)

>Which is fair, I thought that might be the case before I started reading the review.

>>172022379
>They also mention the share function is not working on PS4
good shit atlus

>>171959087
Where are you getting that from?

>>172022379
>I think it comes down to it just not being different enough from the previous Persona games.

It is only a new game in a series with a completely new story and improvements in pretty much every single aspect of the gameplay. Exactly what should it have done to be more different from the other games without being something completely different?

>>172022658
It should have been something different.
I wanted a change like 2 to 3, not just P4 with a new UI.

>"A creeping subtext about the importance of a stable family life [...] is less succesful, making a stuffily old-fashioned point about the nuclear family that seems at odds with the game's attempt to celebrate rather than demean."
Fuck this autism

>>172022838
Told you faggots they would misinterpret the shit about Goro and how orphans are treated in Japan
Translating foreign media was a fucking mistake

>>172022838
Wait, so they were upset that the game tried to say stable family life is a good thing, or that the game is bad about saying stable families are a good thing?

>>172022937
Seems like the latter, that they felt it strayed from the thematic mark in how it handled the broken homes ingame.

>>172023329
I would thats the case.
You would have to be pretty fucking up your own ass to try to imply nuclear family is a poor ideal.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG8dgN6x2EA

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>>172023825
Yukari is a strong independent party member that don't need no accuracy.

>>172024131
I suspect they let her be in the archer club as a joke.

>>172024431
I think Atlus refused to give her a hakama costume as a joke. A cruel joke

Tomorrow is the the announcement stream right? At 19.00?

>>172022458

That was enforced by Atlus JP. Can't really get around that.

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>>172025228
Yes

>>172022838
By nuclear family they mean the idea of a family being man+woman+children? Because I don't remember the game actually saying anything about that at all.

>>172025228

Annoucement stream of what?

>>172024484
I think it would be cool if in Persona games we could get costumes that represent what club they are in, and if the character isn't it a club they get casual clothing.

I really enjoyed the costume thing in Persona 4 Golden. It's so retarded they don't transfer to NG+.

>>172025714
It doesn't really say anything explicit about that no.
I think they're reading into the fact that a lot of the families in this game are non-nuclear and aren't exactly the most functional families as the game implying that non-nuclear families are bad.

>>172025752
http://gematsu.com/2017/03/atlus-new-title-announcement-special-spring-2017-live-stream-set-march-26
Atlus is announcing stuff. Time for hype and eventual disappointment.

>8 out of 10
>8 OUT OF 10
How do we destroy this fucking magazine bros? It was supposed to be BotW-killer goddamnit!!

>172026112
Why can't you fucking retards stay on /v/

good morning /pg/

>tfw I had a dream about a girl

>>172025829
That would be a valid point if not for the fact that the game has screwed up "nuclear families" too.

>>172026234
I'm aware, I think it's as stupid a comment as you do, trust me.

>>172026202
Why you dream of me?

>westerners not understanding the commentary on intensely deep stigma for bastard children in japan

why don't we just close our eyes and embrace death already?

>>172026483
I don't even think it has anything to do with the bastard child thing, it sounds more like they took issue with Wakaba?

>first review
>8/10

Dead game

>>172026375
>implying you're a girl
>implying that even if you are a girl, you're as cute as the one in my dream

>>172026483

Let's be honest would anyone here actually know about that if they didn't actively look it up.

It's not like it's publically well known fact Japan likes to advertise.

>>172026598
>publically

Publicly.

>Current year
>Still can't date men as a man

atlus pls

>Current year
>Still can't play as a girl

atlus pls

>current year
>I still have no girlfriend

atlus pls

>>172026598
The nerdiest thing I've ever done was end up buying a few books on japanese social issues brought up by the game, real people the characters were named after, jung and gnosticism, etc. But I ended up more knowledgeable than I used to be and made more effort than most people are willing to put in.

>>172021357
>Horizon Zero Dawn is a 9/10
kek what a legitimate outlet

>>172026785
Play persona 2 innocent sin

>current year
>I'm still alive
atlus pls

>>172027324
I know that feel, anon

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>>172020390

>>172026598
I would
Because I watched MWP with /a/ years ago and people were explaining and posting links to articles about that in pretty much every thread
Does that count? It wasn't active on my part

>>172027324
I tried to kill myself earlier this year but my roommate found me and called an ambulance before I died.

atlus pls

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>>172026483
Its the price we pay for getting completely foreign media translated in a language we understand.

There's probably a westaboo somewhere in Japan upset that normal people don't understand western/american customs or issues,

>current year
>i am still dead

atlus pls

>>172027324
>>172027506
>>172027783
you can't play weeb high-school friends simulator if you're dead, geniuses

>>172027783
You can only blame yourself for doing that with your roommate around

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>People care about the arbitrary number assigned to a video game

>>172027820
Elizabeth will save you soon, MC ;_;

>>172027783
Really?

>>172027945
We won't get another one for years and spin-offs aren't worth waiting for

>considering buying a ps4 just to play P5

should I just get a ps3 instead? Is the ps3 version worth it?

>>172027783
how are you not locked up
I tried to kill myself in my teens and spent literally more than a year in a ward

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>>172028054
>and spin-offs aren't worth waiting for
DAN and Labrys are still the only good thing with Persona 4 in the title

>>172028003
I don't, I care about the fact that the stuff apparently said in the review is either stupid or just not true.

>>172028069
>buying 8/10 games
lmao

>8/10

クソッ!!

クソッ! クソッ! クソッ!!

うあぁーーーっ!

>>172028114
goddamn rise is lewd

>I’ll admit to not being blown away when initially seeing the character designs. I liked that the crew in Persona 4 would essentially go into battle with their normal clothes on, so I was a bit bothered by this idea that the new cast would transform Power Rangers style before somersaulting into battle

holy shit

>>172028212
The west doesnt deserve Persona

>>172028252
this tbqh

>>172028187
at least don't start crying

>>172028252
atlus usa might as well fucking rewrite the games for the west actually
I'm not playing the english versions, if it means the autistic complaints will stop - let them have at it

>>172028212
shit taste at its best

>>172028212
I actually thought the same. P4 aside, it's one of the things I liked from the whole series, how they just fought in school uniforms. The chuuni outfits weren't, and still aren't, to my taste.

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>>172028391

>>172028391
they're not even chuuni, though. the crew themselves comment on how ridiculous they look, but there's an in-narrative and technical reason that explains (the cognitive world) why they end up in those clothes in particular. it actually makes much more sense than anything you see from comic books for example where they choose dumbass looking outfits that make them stand out even more.

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>Dantis twisting the knife

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>>172028360
I don't particularly care what the general audience in the west thinks, Im more concerned that Atlus will take criticism outside of Japan with any sincerity.
Everyone likes to joke that Japanese devs don't give a fuck, and will continue to not give a fuck, but I don't buy it completely.

>>172022838
but literally none of this is in the game
they are pulling shit out of their ass
how is this a review

>Persona 5 never really strays too far away from the masterpiece that was Persona 4

why do burgers love p4 so much?

>tfw the localization made the game really anti non-nuclear families
god damn it

>>172028931
i love how it's being compared to persona 4 most of the time, implying it pretty much just "measures up" to it when persona 5 is objectively the better game.

>>172027945
I will print out this post and put it on my wall.

>>172027981
I didn't think he would go down the basement when it's not his day to do laundry.

>>172028030
yes

>>172028073
I got out after 3 weeks after convincing them it was just a bad day. Maybe also helps that I'm not a teen.

>>172028931
Persona 4 never strays too far away from the masterpiece that was Persona 3, yet that doesn't stop people from giving Persona 4 high review scores.

>>172029003
Are you memeing, or being serious?
That would be really gross if they did.

this makes me really pissed pg
I know I shouldn't care about scores or that bullshit
but hearing the crap they're spouting is fucking hurting to read
I want to punch something

>>172029003
in what way?

>>172029194
waaaaaaaaaaa they don't like the game I like waaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>172022838
>"A creeping subtext about the importance of a stable family life [...] is less succesful, making a stuffily old-fashioned point about the nuclear family that seems at odds with the game's attempt to celebrate rather than demean."
THEY ARE LITERALLY EITHER MAKING SHIT UP OR LEGITIMATELY SO STUPID THEY'RE MAJORLY MISINTERPRETING THE STORY

>>172029241
Thats not what hes upset about dummy.

>>172029273
Almost certainly the latter, if they needed to come up with an excuse to lower the score there would've been better more obvious choices.

>>172028665
>Dantis prefers P4 to P5
>The only aspect of P5 Dantis can fairly assess is the gameplay, since he doesn't understand a word of Japanese and admits this
>Nonetheless he still stresses that P5 is worse than P4
???
Explain it

>>172022838
"Society shits on kids who don't have a stable family life due to the loss of a parent or the system failing them." is what the game is addressing. How the fuck did they even manage to make something bad out of that.

What are the items for that you get when you max out a social link?

>>172029429
Makes me miss the days we thought homophobic jokes would tack off points from the final score.

>>172029429
probably never met or read about someone who had a shitty life thanks to that

Should I get Persona 5 or Nier

>>172029528
at least if they'd done that I wouldn't be surprised and would be able to see why they did that
here I'm just left confused as to if we even played the same game

>>172029563
>buying 8/10 games