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/ndg/ Nier/Drakengard General #26

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Route Z: ALL RETURNS TO [Z]ERO

>[THIS GENERAL HAS SPOILERS]

If you have any suggestions or links you think would be useful, then respond with it to the OP and help build up the archives.

>[Official NieR:Automata page]
https://www.platinumgames.com/games/nier-automata/

[DRAKENGARD/NIER COLLECTION ARCHIVE] - World Guides, Novellas, Lore, etc.
https://mega.nz/#F!1U9FABJA!mMSLFtaWnMsjC5kNrzsgHA

>[NieR:Automata PC/Steam Pastebin]
http://pastebin.com/qEZD3VLJ

>[NieR:Automata Unit Data & Fishing Encyclopedia] - Untranslated, use Chrome
http://wiki3.h1g.jp/nierautomata/index.php?%E5%80%8B%E4%BD%93%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF

>[/ndg/ Downloads Pastebin] - Ripped OST, Lewds, Steam Theme
http://pastebin.com/YWG8irCu

Previous Route:
>>171828393
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First for I wanna fuck Manah
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>>171847962
I've done nothing but listen to the OST and read through these threads /v/ too since beating the game, I hope they continue beyond this.
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Rip Pascal
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X uploads data to bunker

X dies

Data transferred to Y

Isn't it tragic how many 2Bs and 9S' have died? They basically create a clone of themselves but they themselves die, embracing eternal darkness.
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OP, I just want to tell you how glad I am to have been a part of these threads.
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>>171847962
Is the general going to die?
Best one out of all the chans...
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Where the fuck are some elaborate gadgets. I am out of quests.
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>>171848295

Either this general stops existing or we watch it slowly (rapidly) devolve into shit just like all other generals on /vg/.
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>>171848252
Isn't that basically what happening whenever you quick travel?
Kinda takes the impact away from the whole thing.
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>>171848350
Bloodborne general has held out pretty well.
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I just got ending E

Well it's nothing what i Expected.
I thought i get another bunch of side quests will have to grind every single weapon in the game, bust my ass for week grinding shit and then get my anus raped by some secret boss that one shots me when the screen is black and credits are rolling.
And i heard someone moan they got raped harder than in D3.
Is all of that shit in the sidequest?
Is E not the TRUE ending?
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>>171848207
>they continue beyond this.

I want a "shit going down" era prequel game so bad. They already have the "cast" for it, easily. Human Tyrann, Emil, Gestalt Kali, Grimoire Rubum before she breaks or whatever.
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They truly were, an Aqua Teen Hunger Force...

Oh, and happy 26th thread OPFag..
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>>171848259
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2B9S
O T P
T
P

I don't want these threads to end. ;_;
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>>171848383
Does Luci still go there?
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>>171848259
What it is about 9S that draws all females to him?
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>>171848350
I think we can handle another cycle of A-Z before things get like this.

I just don't want to leave this post E high of chatting about the game nonstop with you guys.
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>>171848390
Nah the final boss is as bad as it was. You can fight another if you upgrade all your weapons.
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>21O will never be your mother
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>>171848717

>21O will never offer you a surprise in her room on her bed
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>>171848524
So the rape is optional or did i just get the blue pill ending?
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>>171848390
There's also Ending Y, for which you do need all the weapons fully upgraded. It really isn't that difficult, but it's still important as a side-story.
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>>171848378
I think fast travel's executed a bit differently in how it allows them to continue with the current stream of consciousness, while 9S's deaths were basically taking out a separate pre-saved personality to return to factory settings.
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>gave the game to a friend to he can play it as well
>get a message today
>'ending N was funny'
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>>171848797
>Ending Y
>Expected a quick Easter Egg boss
>got one of the most tragic moments in the series
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Is this a fucking joke? 5 threads since yesterday?
>>171847962
Doing god's work OP, thanks for seeing this through you're still a fag for not including my poll to op
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
http://www.strawpoll.me/12530179/
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>>171848506
Opinion changes from time to time on desirable traits in men when it comes to media.
Right now small build, not necessarily short, but not weak, with soft features. Maybe like a dancer.
This doesn't translate over into real life however which always seems to be a constant "Swimmers" body type plus neat beard.
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Huh. Is the background art that appears in some of the weapon stories in Automata the Pact symbol?
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>>171848924
At least Jean Paul Sartre got what was coming to him.
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>>171848951
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DRAGON PISS
DRAGON PISS
DRAGON PISS


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oheuZ28s2PI
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>Finished Automata 3 days ago
>Or was it 4 days ago? Don't remember anymore
>Feel empty and sad, but at the same time somewhat inspired and relieved
>Can't play any other games anymore
>Try 100% Automata
>Can't play without thinking about what happened in the game
>Can't do anything other than sleep, play, listen to Automata OST and lurk around /ndg/
This game is really something else
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Anyone made a list of the endings in order you can obtain them?
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I don't want this comfyness to end /ndg/ bros....
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>After 9S loses his shit you can buy a chip that makes enemies scream in pain when killed by hacking

Full fucking nuclear
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>>171849218
Oh grow the fuck up
It's just a fucking game, and not even a great one like ME2 or Witcher 3
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You've done a great job, OP. It's been a true pleasure
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>>171849015
>2B in lead
You took this to /v/ didn't you.
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>>171849059
It's similar, at least.

Also, all weapon stories:
https://imgur.com/a/ruqz2
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>>171849201
>middle-aged woman voices 20 something character
This needs to stop. Kills my boner too.
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>>171849218
I feel you may have some issues outside playing video games.
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Got ending [E]. Should I use continue to start a new playthrough or use chapter select?
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I've consumed media and fiction all my life, played and watched more stuff that I can count to the point of becoming completely cynical and practically unable to be impressed by anything.

A few things managed to make me tear up before, Automata straight up made me break down crying like a little bitch by the end. Like someone had punched me right in the feelings.

There's really nothing else to this post. I've just felt like absolute shit for the past two days. I still randomly tear up a bit whenever I think about it like some dumb teenage girl who got dumped by her boyfriend.

I'm not sure how to deal with this.
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>>171849218
I think this happened to more people me included
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>>171848295
The only thing that us hitting Route Z means is that I wont be making the threads anymore.

It's time to release controls and watch how /ndg/ controls its own destiny.
Whether you start from zero and count up, or start from route A and go back to Z, or whether we hit our eventual heat-death and burn it all to the ground like /dodg/ is up to you, and I don't want to influence that.
Am glad people enjoyed it, though.
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>>171849314
>Iron pipe

You fucking what
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>>171847962
What's up with the philosophical references in this game. It's literally everywhere.
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>>171849376
Undertale was better
Even Yatzhee thinks this game was nothing special and was holding you hostage at the ending because the tedium and repetition forced you into being invested into these bland, forgettable characters.
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>>171849352
you are missing the point which is Mikhail pissing himself.

But yeah, english dubs can go fuck off
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>>171849218
>Cause We're Gonna Shout it Loud
>Even If Our Words Seem Meaningless
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>>171849479
He didn't say it was incredible, but he said he liked it but didn't really know why.
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>>171849298
>/v/
Why would I even try to go to that shithole? Friendly reminder that A2 was in the lead for first several hours.
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>>171849376
I had to stop playing after what happened to the robot children.
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>>171849376
After a week or so, the pain dulls to a pleasant ache. These threads help a bit. 2b porn helps a bit more.
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>>171848924
I want Caim to be my friend too
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>>171849545
>but he said he liked it but didn't really know why.
And then he realized that he didn't like it at all reading back on his notes and said that it was basically Stockholm Syndrome forcing the player to feel invested in these shoddy characters. It's a shit game.
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Will you really stop baking breads OP? Can someone else take the throne?
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>>171849702
I disagree but I respect you think otherwise, friend.
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>>171849585
>>171849218
>>171849376
How do you manage to function in the real world.
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>>171849376
>>171849585

I got physical chills during the section where you clear out the village. I feel a bit of a faggot even typing this out but man no other game I've played has ever elicited such a strong response from me. I'm really glad to have played it.
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>>171849376
>>171849218
It honestly seems like 2/3 get the feels kicked out of them this time around and the other 1/3 is entirely uneffected.
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>>171849218
Don't listen to these assholes
>>171849361
>>171849275
I completely feel you anon
It's that Taro meme magic
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>>171849743
I dunno. Making threads is as easy as just copying the OP, the subject and updating the thread number, and linking to the last OP post. That's all you really gotta do.
Who says it needs to be an individual?
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>>171849813
They don't
I'm noticing a trend here
NEET and literal autists praise the game for being deep and emotional, but normal people think this game is shallow, too melodramatic, and all over the place plot-wise.
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I've been fishing nonstop for 5 fucking hours now. I just need that fucking swordfish.
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>>171849953
(you)
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>>171849880
The reason I didn't feel a thing was because nothing in the game is new or unique and has been done elsewhere as this trope is one of, if not the most overdone trope in sci-fi.

That and I'm not a 15 year old that cries over robots dying because the game told me to.
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>>171849893
We are a big family after all
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>>171849376
I'm jelly, Anon.
I enjoyed Automata and even felt something a little, maybe my eyes got a little wet. And the ending felt very healing and nice. I had a warm fuzzy feeling playing that danmake with shit saying "Dont give up Skeleton"

I'm getting really jelly of feely people.
Some times i wish i could give a fuck but i cant.

Still it was very nice.
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>>171849953
>posting in a community for a videogame just to harp on how much you dislike the game
>calling anyone else autistic
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>>171850006
So why exactly are you in here? Would you like to discuss one of the other games, then?
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>>171849247
He probably deliberately made it more painful for them.
What happens if you hack 2B or A2 with them though? Will they scream from pain too?
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>>171849247
Is it just a feelbad chip or does it actually do something?
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>>171849186
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>>171849975
reload the area every once in a while, I fished for it for 2 days and then got 5 in quick succession
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>>171850335
fucking saved
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>>171849975
There's a machine version too
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>>171850335
Its perfect.
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>>171850473
I've got that. The only thing left is the OG one.
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>>171850335
Anyone got the pic of Taro flashing his crotch?
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>>171850571
Kill a moose nearby. Y'know, chum the waters.
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>>171850134
Not saying I didn't enjoy Automata, in fact I enjoyed it a lot but I enjoyed it for things that weren't the typical Taro shock factor.
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Since we're done after this thread, post your favorite images from last 2 weeks
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>>171850335
m8 that's fucking saved
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>Start new game after E
>Expect NG+ Toggie action with extra enemies
>instead literally play One Punch Man against level 1 mobs

Why Platinum?
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>>171849478
Are you serious? Or just dense.
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>>171850645
Dude wants to make different kinds of games and loves experimenting so I kinda saw that as a given.
I liked it for different reasons than I liked the original.
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>>171850812
Despair.
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>>171850126
This pic, everytime.
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>>171850601
I have the gif too somewhere, but I can't find it.
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Why wasn't this version in the game?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qlull1ebwI
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>>171850812
Could've sworn that if you just hit continue instead of new game, you start off fighting against level 60 enemies.
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>>171850981
This plus pic related.
Can we do it? A weapon to surpass metal gear?
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>>171850701
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>>171849218
It's a weird feeling, that's for sure.
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100% and upgraded all weapons.

How do I trigger the fight~?
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>>171850701
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Is Automata selling well?
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>>171851378
Quest marker in the mall
Reload any chapter as any char
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>>171849218
NUH UH YOU'RE JUST A FAG NO ONE GETS FEELINGS FROM GAMES ;_;

>>171851154
I can't help but see a Mara invasion everytime I see this image. Doesn't help that one is veiny.
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>>171851415

200k in Japan.

Not really what you would call 'well,' but it's not exactly a complete flop like all the rest of Taro's games, either.
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I only need memory alloys to 100% the weapons and unlock the secret, anyone know where to farm them ?
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>>171851590
Two giant outside the castle.
Spawn in the King's Room and jump out the window.
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>>171851415
According to available sells records: pretty well.
No tracking on digital sales though, but I think it's already turned a profit. This combined with user review scores have been surprising.
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>>171851496
>200k in Japan.
Well unlike everything else it is also selling in the west I suppose, isnt it?

And BTW they have already announced figures.
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>>171851378
You must have cleared the Lunar Tear questline first.
Once it is done, Emil will randomly pop in the commercial block in front of the forest (same location you first met him). Talk to him, and it will trigger the quest for the secret boss fight.

Remember that if you want ending Y in your save state, you must deliberately let the "special sequence" happens at the end of the boss fight. If you don't, you will clear the quest and it won't be repeatable at all for that save state.
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>>171851496
Was the original Nier a complete flop? I heard that it was at least profitable.
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>>171849225

First Playthrough
>W
>U
>T
>I
>J
>N
>J
>L
>A
Second Playthrough
>G
>F
>K? (forgot when this actually triggers)
3rd Playthrough
>O
>P
>Q
>X
>Z
>M
>R
>V
>S
>Y

I think that's correct thought would like someone to check.
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How do I blackmail Taro into giving us ponytail DLC for 2B and A2?
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This game desperately needs auto-levelling options you can turn on and off.
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>>171851496
200k physical copies is a feat when you consider the decline of conventinal games figures outside of AAA games and other franchises.
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>>171847962
Asked in the last one right before it ended...

I got the Ancient Overlord to Lvl 3, and have the Critical ability now. I see these Critical Up chips are crazy valuable. Like Emil sells a Crit +6 (10% crit chance) for 50k.

How do Crits work? Does a 10% chance mean 10% of my strikes will be criticals? How much do criticals do? Is it worth it?

Also, how does countering work? I’ve tried using light attacks in the direction of incoming attacks like in MGR, and it just seems to hit like normal. I have a Counter +3 chip on.

This is the first Taro game I've played, so maybe it's clearer to those who've done the others.
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>>171851759
Find a way to dam up the sudden flood of booze money he's going to receive.
Warning: he MIGHT John Wick you for this.
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>>171851886
Counter requires you to tilt your stick towards the enemy when they are about to hit you. The timing is a bit tighter than perfect evade.
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>>171851886
>how does countering work?
You move the left joystick at the enemy when they're about to hit you.
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>>171851886
Counter: just WALK forward when they attack.
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>>171851886

>How do Crits work? Does a 10% chance mean 10% of my strikes will be criticals? How much do criticals do? Is it worth it?

Yes. Critical deal multiple times the normal damage that hit would do, sending a hit worth 500 damage into 2000 damage territory, for example. Some weapons have higher crit values than others. Critical+ means that the crit rate and crit bonus damage value are higher for that weapon. The weapon with the best crit rate and crit damage multiplier is the Cypress Stick. The chips are pretty much always worth it for any weapon.

>Also, how does countering work? I’ve tried using light attacks in the direction of incoming attacks like in MGR, and it just seems to hit like normal. I have a Counter +3 chip on.

Just press the stick into the direction of the incoming attack at the same timing as a Perfect Evade to counter. You can be doing any other animation at the time, it'll cancel out of it and counter the attack.
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>>171850701
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>Ending D
>A communal cyber intelligence network leaves the planet for outer space

Oh shit, they'll become the Borg, won't they?
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>>171851642
Trying it now, thanks in advance senpai
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>>171848378
With the transporters the Yorha body is assimilated into the materials the transporters maintain and the mind is sent across to a local terminal.
The mind is removed completely from the body, and then moved into another body. It's not really the same thing since nothing is left behind but metal bits.
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>>171851150
How would that work?
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>>171851496
That was the first week.
I think it's now around 270k in japan according to latest Media Create Sales + 160k steam.

I don't think there's any info about console sales in other regions.
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>>171851997
>>171852007
>>171852013
>>171852097
Cool. Thanks y'all.
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>>171852321
Also that's just physical for japan, not digital.
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>>171851154
>Aliens with foreskin
11/10
Absolute madman
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>>171851089
Oh right, thank you M8y

I think i did something wrong on the first try, did I use chapter celect or what?
First i couldn kill myself with red laser, now i get oneshot with red balls.

YEAH, MORE SEXY BUTT ACTION
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I want to cum inside Angelus!
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Is this the thing that kills your save if you pick yes?
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>>171852745
yes but gives you like 7 chances to say no.
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>people asking elaborate questions looking for deep answers
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>>171851089
enemies for the shooter sections scale.

As soon as you land, everything is level 1-3 again.
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>>171852780
Thanks, once I 100% it I'll be sure to return and say yes.
The credits sequence was amazing too.
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>>171852852

What was his elaborate answer?
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>>171852685
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>>171852685
Go away Caim
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>>171852625
W8 a bit.

Can I play as 2B on NG+ difficulty, then use Chapter select to pick up some weapons as 9S, then load back to myself playing 2Butt?

Can I possibly chapter select onto NG+ chapters?
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>>171852912
I don't think there was one. Censored Gaming also covered this and went straight up to that one liner.
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>>171849953
What are you feelings on Mass Effect: Andromeda?
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Well I beat the 100% weapon fight...but no Y or anything other than a save option.
<_<?
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>>171851743
First playthrough (2B)

W: broken [W]ings
U: deb[U]nked
T: fa[T]al error
N: [N]o Man's Village
H: a mountain too [H]igh
K: aji wo [K]utta
I: no [I] in team
J: bad [J]udgement
L: [L]one wolf
A: flowers for m[A]chines

Second Playthrough (9S)

G: hun[G]ry for knowledge
F: mission [F]ailed
B: or not to [B]e

Thrid Playthrough (9S)


O: just y[O]u and me
P: corru[P]tion
Q: [Q]uestionable actions

Thrid Playthrough (A2)

X: time to rela[X]
Z: over[Z]ealous
M: break ti[M]e
R: mave[R]ick
C: meaningless [C]ode


Thrid Playthrough (9s)

V: reckless bra[V]ery
S: city e[S]cape
D: chil[D]hood’s end


Clean up

E: the [E]nd of yorha
Y: head[Y] battle


Cleaned it up a little.
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>>171852971
IS there even NG+? Also no they get rid of your debug and Chap select on delete. They asked you that, remember?

>>171853004
There was actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56TkUkDEzKI&t=1701s
@15:55
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>580600/name: TRAIN DLC TEST001
>580600/maxsize: 3511092851 (3.27 GB)
>524221/maxsize: 48053352356 (44.75 GB) › 50557571510 (47.09 GB) (diff = +2.33 GB)
Hmmmmmmm...
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>>171853208
he is so cute and nervous
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Is there a way in game to know what side quests im missing or shojust look at a guide online?
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>>171847962
I recently started and I have a couple of questions if you kind people don't mind answering. Yes spoilers I will fuck off very soon just please answer.

Should I explore every map like the Ruined City in 100% or just follow quests and where the story takes me? I mean can I find scattered side quests by exploring?

Should I buy new weapons or upgrade the default ones? The Resistance Camp has some good ones I think. Should I buy some or just hang on to my money?
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>>171850107
Ditto. I definitely enjoyed the ride and was on board with the emotional rollercoaster the whole way through, but for me it was always a "oh this is interesting, I can't wait to see what happens next" and not a "oh please god no don't do this taro" thing.

The E credits though, I didn't even like Weight of the World that much and I didn't really realize what was going on, but when the choir kicked in my chest got a little tight.
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>>171853208
>IS there even NG+? Also no they get rid of your debug and Chap select on delete. They asked you that, remember?
>Beat the E ending
>DONT DELETE SHIT
>Be in menu
>Press Continue button
>Be spawned in the first mission against lvl 60 mobs

Yes there is NG+
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>>171853224
Nines train to despair DLC.
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>>171852852
>>171852912
He said something along the lines of, because of how the story takes place in the distant future, he expects the logic there to be completely different from present day common sense.

Basically he's bullshitting.
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>>171853129
Y is for letting him kill himself
You just soft locked yourself out of Y since you can't fight him again
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>>171853358
No real way to know ingame, unless you've started the quest.
One of the early shared quests I was missing was given by the Commander and it took me ages to find, because it didn't show up on the normal map
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>>171853524
Link to entire download when you're done please!
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>>171853524
You need one of those portable scanners.
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>>171853224
>>171853409
Actually it's called TrAIn and it's the new YoRHa replacement.
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>>171853374
How do you do the pod pet?
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>>171853627
Swiping back and forth on the touchpad on PS4 and I believe you shake your mouse on PC.
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>>171853224
Probably some arena type bollocks. Though if MGR is anything to go by we might get another perspective route, perhaps some random grunt.
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>>171853682
>tfw playing with non-PS4 controller on PC
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>>171853627
Rub touchpad.
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>>171853362
>Run around getting quests
>When main quest leads you into the big hole in the ground you get fast travel
>At some point in the game you will be cut off from the quests
>BUT dont sweat it if you got tired, you will be able to revisit them,

Weapons are almost the same, upgrade one pair of most important weapons.
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>>171853773
I know, those people make me sick.
Though I don't believe the PC has native PS4 controller support, does it?
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>Emil never saw Weiss again
>Emil either never saw Kaine again or forgot Nier ever existed (and possibly never saw Kaine again anyway)

Emil is the true face of suffering.
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>>171853837
I think if you have a PS4 controller and its charging cable you can just plug it in. I've not tried it though.
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>>171853836
I did so many sidequests before getting fast travel. I really regret that.
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>>171853773
>grab your mice
>press a button so it switches into mice+keyboard mode
>Shake it violently
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>>171853876
>forgot Nier ever existed
Nah Emil mentions him in passing by saying this place is special to "HIM" it also means Ending D of NieR is no longer canon and it might have to be C which means Kaine is dead.
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>>171853919
Yeah, but I've seen people request a custom PS4 button layout for the game, so I figured it didn't support stuff like the touchpad.
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>>171853994
I'm pretty sure ending D is canon but they fixed it in a novella or some shit.
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>>171853208
This man is a trasure. Does he speak english? Because he clearly understands it.
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>>171853994
No, I think when he said "him" he meant the original Emil,
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>>171853836
Thank you very much.
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>>171853994
Maybe Daddy Nier got the C ending and Brother Nier got the D ending.
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>>171854083
He knows some english, but not well enough to do an entire conversation.
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>>171853994

Or it's going off of ending E from Grimoire Nier, which was kind of an annoying cop out but what can you do
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>>171853760
3GB means a lot of cutscenes and audio.
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>>171853374
No. Fucking shooter game mobs scale. As soon as you land they're level 3 again. Shitting hell.
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>>171853424
>he expects the logic there to be completely different from present day common sense.
>Basically he's bullshitting.
I mean, he's kinda right.
It is a cop-out answer, sure, but "it isn't practical" doesn't really matter when you have engineered bodies capable of defying normal physical restrictions, and having some precision engineering and coordination.
Not to mention that Android fashion, much less casual battle-field fashion, is completely unrecognizable from contemporary human battlefield sensibilities. When you have a far more durable body, one that is even indefinitely replaceable, the mortality of war has a completely different meaning.

Hell, even Raiden had "heels" in MGR.
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>>171853925
I did it twice,
On Route A i though hole in the ground is the flooded city and I wont come back from there.
I did ALL the quest running around on feet after discovering the game even had the travel feature,
>Route C
I though it was broken and I cant fast travel so I didnt.

>>171853362
Anon this game isnt rape mod, you cant fuck up, you cant get locked away out of anything, you get a chance to come back anywhere later in the game

Fuck off from the thread for good and dont ask anyone for advice. Dont google hints either.
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>>171854178
Why do they have mouths UNDER their outer shell.

The whole design makes no sense.
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>>171854116
Oh that's a good shout actually.
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So... why was Emil in that machine head?
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What did she say?
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>>171854314

Didn't the ayys base them off of Emil after he clowned them?
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>>171854448
>I'm stressed out. Fuck me.
>>
>A2
>combat bracer
>Wire skill
now THIS is podracing
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>>171854448
you know too much
again
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>>171854437
Who knows.

>Punished Emil infiltrated the Machines
>Eventually forgot who he was
>His cover story became his truth
>Only ever shook out of it when Toobs cracked him out of the machine shell.
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>>171854448
Nain essu
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>>171853490
Did the fight a 2nd time with a lot less dmg and still no Y. IDK. YT showed it using A2. Both of mine were with 2B so idk.
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>>171854476
That's the only explanation that makes sense. It's still weird that nobody in the game mentions it, or even why was Emil inside the head of one of them.
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The pods are the true protagonists of this game, right?

Pod 153 is a total qt.
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>>171853524
Neat.
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>>171854643
Are you letting him suicide? Just don't hit him at the end
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>>171854448
Mayonegg
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I have what is most likely a dumb question.

2E is an execution type. She was tasked with killing 9S whenever he learned too much or when his curiosity got the better of him.

Does that mean she knew about the truth regarding humans?

I have seen both sides of this, with people saying 2E didn't know or did know.

What do you think?

If she DIDN'T know, what reason does she have to kill 9S when he becomes too curious? What logic path did the Commander or whoever give her to say that it was her duty to do?

If she DID know about the lack of humanity, what purpose was she serving overall? She wasn't protecting 9S by killing him over and over, so what was the plan?
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>>171854689
yes
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>>171854448
No one will ever believe you.
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>>171854745

Maybe she knew, maybe she didn't. It's left ambiguous on purpose.
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>>171854843
Thats why I'm asking what people think. We can debate. Something to discuss ;)
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>>171854745
I think either way, her motivation was that it was the only way to be close to him.
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>>171854745
I think she was receiving an order from the commander and dint question it. Why? Top Secret thats why! You wanna know too much too? Better get the job done and forget it
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>>171848207
Haha same, feeling real comfy, can't get enough of these threads.
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>>171854907

Why does the Commander keep fighting even when she knows humanity is dead?

Because she knows the lie is the only thing motivating the androids on the surface to keep fighting and not let themselves be wiped out. If 2B knows, she likely realizes this as well.
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>>171854745

Her orders were probably something like "if he starts spouting LIES kill him and DON'T believe him" or whatever and 2B being 2B didn't really question it.
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>>171854689
Are there any moments where you don't use pods?
Because there certainly was a part where you only controlled a pod.
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>>171855018
Hegel?
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>>171850126
What is the context of this pic?
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>>171854745
It doesn't matter whether or not she knew. She didn't have any choice.
Just run away with Nines? Get marked as a traitor and be murdered while causing him way more suffering than during his resets.

The important thing is that she hated doing this and it was causing her immense pain.
Another important thing is that Nines somehow learned about this too and was trying to bravely sacrifice himself for her to make it easier for her because he was repeatedly falling for her too.
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>>171848259
This is my favorite image
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>>171854984
>Why does the Commander keep fighting even when she knows humanity is dead?
For the sake of remaining Androids.
And perhaps MAYBE they can revive humans in the future.
They have some humans DNA samples, maybe they can wipe out the machines, build the Android utopia and clone the humans back into existence.
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>>171854897
Operator >>> Heavy
Heavy a shit! SHIT!
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>>171855018
9S hacking in the factory
Stop being autistic the pods are the supports
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>>171855101
I mean, running away worked for A2, so why wouldn't it work for them?
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>>171855085
There's a glitch in Drakengard where you can go under the map.
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>>171854745
I mean, even if she knew, what could she do? She must have known, just like the commander, that their existence is pointless and having the illusion of a goal is all that's keeping everyone going. At least this way she always gets to be with 9S. If she didn't do it, they could always order another Type-E to kill him. Fighting against the rest of YorHa should they defect was also hopeless.
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>>171855101

>Another important thing is that Nines somehow learned about this too and was trying to bravely sacrifice himself for her to make it easier for her because he was repeatedly falling for her too.

Haha what the fuck are you on?
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>>171854897
translation: The backpack has a cooling unit because while offering supreme defenses the full body heavy armament generates massive amounts of heat. It is applicable for battle types such as 2B.
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>>171855181
Ending O
>All YoRha were eliminated
>Except for the selfish ones
>They were fine
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So got ending C and loaded my save, but enemies are back to default level. What gives?
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>>171855210
>Fighting against the rest of YorHa should they defect was also hopeless.

Again, I keep seeing this, but it worked out for A2. In fact, it worked out for her so well she ended up being one of the last 2 survivors.
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>>171855180
>9S hacking in the factory
153 was totally there helping out
>Stop being autistic
No.
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>tfw ruining Automata one BIMBO at a time
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>>171855181
A2 is a phenomenon with immense fucking willpower.
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>>171855293
Choose the last mission in chapter select and pick 9S this time.
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>>171855312

That's part of the reason I don't buy that 2B felt helpless and trapped in her situation. I just think she actually gave a shit about her duty and wasn't going to abandon it for personal reasons, no matter what.
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They even show you where to machines fall down from
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>>171855279
>>171855279
>>171855279

Is this it?

Is Ending O the true ending to this game?
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>>171853994
there's a novella set after ending D which explains Nier's return, a summary for it is available in the archive in the OP
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>>171855181
>>171855312
You can run away during that mission.
it even says you will be fine
Perhaps they are gonn be hanging out with A2 and Emil in the forest forever.
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>>171855415
Maybe it's just literally in her programming.
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>>171855382

2B literally has the same personality data as A2
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>>171855223
When he goes through his own memories in ending D he mentions that he knew who she is.
A2 tells that he knew as well.
So he just made her job easier.
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>>171855358
>No
I guess autism always finds a way
I wish I was as autistic as you on plot points
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>>171855470
Are you halfway into the despair route?
Keep playing it.
Dont ask dont look up just keep playing.
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>>171855620
Nah Anon, I'm making a joke that Ending O seems to be the best possible Ending, even better than E.
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>>171855542
B models were BASED on A2, her actual personality and character development is different.
>>
LEWDS WHEN?
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>>171855563

He's literally reminiscing on the past with new information in that cutscene. A2 was just mocking him for trying to avenge someone who was going to kill him sooner or later.

>So he just made her job easier.

This is the biggest leap in logic I've ever seen from you "9S knew everything all along" fags.
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>>171855376
at least this one is a lot better than that other horrendous one that was posted in like thread 22.
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>>171855676
Anon, please.
This is a SFW board.
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>>171855776
>horrendous
It's a good thing I'm going overboard with A2 then
Maybe I'll hit 6O/21O next and then the Commander
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>THICC fags ruining Toobie
For what purpose?
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>>171855460
Sweet, I always wondered if they just appeared out of thin air.
>>
Anyone with completed game playing right now? What happens when you self destruct in YoRHa Heavy armor?
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>>171855706
>This is the biggest leap in logic I've ever seen from you "9S knew everything all along" fags.
He literally talks about himself having blank spots in the memory and about uploading to the Bunker on regular basis.

9S knew Toobs long before they met in the beginning of the game but didnt show it. He knew machines had emotions long ago too. But pretended that they dont. He could See See Simone's tragedy but he didnt show it to her, he pretended it was just a stupid robot.
9S was protecting 2B from feeling bad about machines she kills and himself too all along.

He is even OK with dying because he has saves, thats why HE uploads HER data to Bunker, and loses his memory about the factory but he probably saved before his sortie so it's OK for him.
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>>171855706
The only way to make sense of Adam's psychoanalysis session is if 9S knew the truth about 2B at that time already.
>>
i
want
to
cum
inside
Angelus!
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Isn't it kind of fucked up that the ending that requires all weapons upgraded to get is missable?

Like, how many players are going to let emil's timer run out if they haven't been told to by people online? basically none. And if you finish the fight instead, you miss the ending
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>>171854643
You're doing something wrong if you can't get Y. It's emil, in the desert, and when he goes to self destruct you let him.

Those are the only steps you can't fuck it up unless you're killing him when his countdown appears.
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>>171856316
It doesn't really matter, Emil is just a silly cameo in this game.
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How the fuck did anyone discover Emil's cave?

I just finished the game 3 times and would never have found it without looking it up online.
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>>171856521
>what is exploration
it's like you never saw that pipe and though "what the fuck is up there?"
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>>171854745
There's no indication that she knew anything, and she follows the Commander's orders regardless of whether she explains herself or not. She wasn't given a reason to kill A2, but she tried to anyway.

Whenever it was time to kill 9S she probably just recieved an order that she was expected to follow, no questions asked. If she did ask? "That's classified."
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>>171856316
It's a bit stupid but the woman who lets you buy trophies is there for a reason and they're probably very aware that anyone who cares will look it up online.
>>
Is there any way to fight the worm like enemies on very hard without being a little bitch and using your pod for 15 minutes?
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>>171856521
I found it after speedstar 2
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>>171855706
He talks about white in his memory happening many times before.
He talks about himself being alone BEFORE he met 2b.

SO HE REMEMBERS HIS PAST BEFORE THE FACTORY
He remembers being a brand new robot being alone on the missions. So he knows what was BEFORE HE DIED. He is aware of himself dying in the past.
And he is smart enough to link it to Toobie.

He wasn't surprised when A2 said she was an assassin,
He gasped when A2 said that she hated it.

You get it?
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>>171853524
I love you, anon. You're carrying the weight of the world
>>
anyone else felt ripped off when 2B disappears 10 hours into the game
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>>171856521
>>171856652
I can understand not finding it perfectly well.
For the first few hours of the game I tried to explore everything and was mostly met with invisible walls, so I just stopped.

Later on route C I just used to minimap and item scan to find what I missed.
>>
I'm so glad the superboss exists. That fight alone just for the presentation is better than anything the game through at me during A-E
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>>171856685
Hack them.
Or javelin throw them to death.
If you're not on 9S, my condolences.
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>>171856259

>He literally talks about himself having blank spots in the memory and about uploading to the Bunker on regular basis.

So we have proof that he doesn't have all his memories.

>9S knew Toobs long before they met in the beginning of the game but didnt show it.

You need proof to back that up.

>He knew machines had emotions long ago too.

You need proof to back that up. He's always the more adamant of the two that machines have no emotions.

>He could See Simone's tragedy but he didnt show it to her, he pretended it was just a stupid robot.

He didn't 'pretend' anything, he just didn't tell 2B anything about what he saw. Probably because it blew his mind and he needed time to process it. Not long after, he drops the 'machines have no emotions' shit and is the one who helps the machine village the most while 2B just tags along for most of those sidequests.

>9S was protecting 2B from feeling bad about machines she kills and himself too all along.

Ha ha no.

>He is even OK with dying because he has saves, thats why HE uploads HER data to Bunker, and loses his memory about the factory but he probably saved before his sortie so it's OK for him.

What are you on about? 2B has saves too.
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>>171856804
On this note I think the JP version is better due to the more child like sounding of the clones and Emil's JP VA really going for it on the call.
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Just beat ending E and, while it's not a huge deal, I still have absolutely no idea what the relevance of emil cloning himself is, or why he was inside the head of one of the machines at the beginning of the game.

IS this info in the game at all?
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>>171855223
Nines was pretty fond of his "ram the enemy at highspeed with your flight unit" techniques
Maybe not the most self preserving attacks you can use in that situation.
You could also mention the fact that he didn't abort his Eve hacking even though the pod shouted thousand times that he'll get infected and after that he just played it off as "whoops didn't know that could happen, guess I screwed up".
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>>171856521
I discovered the path to it really early on actually after finishing speed star since the pipe is directly at the end of the last race.

My mind immediately went in "oh shit" mode as soon as the music changed and level 50 enemies started appearing. I genuinely thought I was sequence breaking and just stumbled into an endgame area I wasn't supposed to be able to access yet, which was more or less true since even after somehow going trough all the killbots it just stopped me at a locked door as I hadn't even met Emil yet.
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>>171856883
>>He knew machines had emotions long ago too.
>>You need proof to back that up. He's always the more adamant of the two that machines have no emotions.

Not him but I thought this was fairly obvious. His opening is him watching a robot try to revive it's brother and he's not remotely surprised about this, even though early in the game you're meant to be surprised they can express emotions at all.
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>>171856773
Not really, but then I felt ripped off when I realized there was no real post-game where I could play as her again.

Well, not really ripped off, just sad.

>>171857013
>I still have absolutely no idea what the relevance of emil cloning himself is
That's just him using his hyper weapon status against the aliens. There's not really any relevance beyond that.

>why he was inside the head of one of the machines at the beginning of the game
Just a gag.
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>>171856305

Wrong. Most of the session is about 9S's hatred of humanity. That one line that pops up about 2B is ambiguous, which means the audience gets to decide what word Adam meant. That doesn't mean it has to be 'kill.'

>>171856707

>He talks about white in his memory happening many times before.

All that proves is that he has memory gaps. Which is, incidentally, proof in favor of him not remembering anything.

>He talks about himself being alone BEFORE he met 2b.
>SO HE REMEMBERS HIS PAST BEFORE THE FACTORY

Nigger, he was on a solo mission prior to the start of the game. Prior to when he meets her.

>He remembers being a brand new robot being alone on the missions. So he knows what was BEFORE HE DIED. He is aware of himself dying in the past.

He remembers being on missions before the start of the game. Not everything that happened before he died.

>And he is smart enough to link it to Toobie.

Clearly not.

>He wasn't surprised when A2 said she was an assassin,

He literally told her to shut up and refused to listen to her.
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Favorite zone go!
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>>171857318
Copied City or Amusement Park
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Most underrated location? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUmktoDFFKM too rushed but deliciously mysterious and alien
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>>171856804
Isn't it just that desert centipede boss fight again only with a different skin?

I was pretty underwhelmed.
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>>171857235
are there any non-comedy scenes with emil in the game after finding the shack? or is it all just gags with him from then on

Also, what is the shack implying? Did Kaine survive the events of nier 1 and he was protecting her down here until something happened? Or did she die and he built this to honor her memory?

It's implied that he's forgotten some things due to splitting himself, right?

It's surprising that he couldn't defeat the machiens when fighting them, being a super weapon and all. I guess he just gave up?

so many emil questions
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>>171857318
City Ruins.

Flooded City if it were a real zone.
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>>171857251
>Most of the session is about 9S's hatred of humanity
Oh no, it's about his feelings in general. Love. Hate. Greed. Lack of trust. None of them make sense if he only remembers events after the Factory.
>That doesn't mean it has to be 'kill.'
It means "kill" is also included.
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>>171857318
shit I have to deal with...
>>171857408

>>171857354
tfw you realize A2 has no artificial skin on ass. hips and breasts
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>>171857318
they all fucking blow

desert - nothing there
amusement park - clowns suck ass
forest - robots that won't shut the fuck up
flooded city - literally nothing there worst zone gotta spend 80 hours there for pure water literally the shittiest location in the game
pascal village - pascal is a male quit trying to fuck it
copied city - nothings fucking there
tower - boring drivel climb this shit everything is white and boring
bunker - grayscale because fuck you
city ruins - blander than your sex life
factory - the only remotely decent area but then it's fucking dark as shit and you can't see anything


its all shit
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>>171857186

>Nines was pretty fond of his "ram the enemy at highspeed with your flight unit" techniques

He does that in order to stop enemy attacks and save 2B. Neither time does it actually harm him.

>You could also mention the fact that he didn't abort his Eve hacking even though the pod shouted thousand times that he'll get infected and after that he just played it off as "whoops didn't know that could happen, guess I screwed up".

What, like he had a choice to stop? He knows it's the only way to beat Eve even if he gets corrupted in the process. If he fails, both 2B and he die.

>>171857208

Anon he literally mocks the robot for it because he thinks it's just a dumb machine that doesn't know it can't fix the other machine by pouring oil on it. SHOWS WHAT HE KNOWS
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>>171855101
Nah man 2B and 9S almost wipe out the entire infected forces on their own, not to mention 9S later in the tower kills 2B clones and infected YoRHa with flight units on his own.
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>>171857318
The final tower.
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>>171857471
Yes the fight itself was a bit shit but the way it was presented and the dialogue that comes with it was more hard hitting for me than anything else.
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>>171856883
>So we have proof that he doesn't have all his memories.
It means he has some memories from before he died blowing up his black box at the factory.
>You need proof to back that up.
He talks about the time when he was all alone.
He says he was alone, it was scare and lonely, and then she came aloof and so on.
>You need proof to back that up. He's always the more adamant of the two that machines have no emotions.
He watched shit about "Brother, brother, i'll get the oil for you"
And right after that he went on to ASSURE her that Simone was simply mumbling gibberish.
He was repeating it all the time to CONVINCE Toobie about it so she wont feel bad about her job.
>Probably because it blew his mind and he needed time to process it.
You do realize he's the most intelligent entity in on the entire planet? The story literally tells you that a couple of times. He is capable of figuring out the conspiracy but not seeing what's right in front of him?
>What are you on about? 2B has saves too.
HE Saves her all the time.
He saved her instead of himself.
And he lost some of his lifetime since his previous save.
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>>171857581
>flooded city - literally nothing there worst zone gotta spend 80 hours there for pure water literally the shittiest location in the game
Plus that long but easy as fuck flight unit mission.
Arguably the worst part of the game.
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>>171857623
They are extremely strong together but if they run away it means they will get constantly harassed and will never find shelter or peace. Is that a life worth living? Would 2B want this for 9S instead of blissful ignorance and happiness she thinks he's living in?
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>>171857616
>he literally mocks the robot for it because he thinks it's just a dumb machine that doesn't know it can't fix the other machine by pouring oil on it.
He mocks it for being dumb
He finds BROTHER peculiar because robots aren't born and don't have parents or anything.

He doesn't mock it for the lack of emotion though.
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>>171857581
>nothing there worst zone gotta spend 80 hours there for pure water literally the shittiest location in the game
Post save timer screenshot memepai
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>>171857768
9S coul just hack the entire world and be done with it desu
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So I realise today that I fought the Factory boss without turning my flashlight on. At first I thought this fight was extremely cool because it's pitch black and you only see it's glowing eye but now I realise it was never meant to be like that.
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>>171857251
>he was on a solo mission prior to the start of the game
And he shouldn't remember it.
Nor should he have close-combat skills.
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So at the end when the machines decided to shoot their conciseness into space, 2B was a part of that conciseness, right? Did the logic virus that the machines released on the androids basically network all the androids onto their own network then? Or did I just confuse myself about that whole thing?
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>>171857482
>It's surprising that he couldn't defeat the machiens when fighting them, being a super weapon and all

What I found interesting about this is in theory he COULD destroy them all, his issue is his powers are inherently destructive and hard to control. The Emil Heads fight can literally end with them nuking the planet but he would never do that because it would destroy the people he wants to protect too. he has all the potential to become the "I must destroy humans to save humans" classic villain but he doesn't

emil is too good for us.
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>>171857487

>Oh no, it's about his feelings in general. Love. Hate. Greed. Lack of trust. None of them make sense if he only remembers events after the Factory.

It really isn't. And even if it was, which, again, it definitely was not, all it means is 9S has a full suite of emotions. Like a human. Which we already knew. It's proof of nothing.

>It means "kill" is also included.

No, that's not how it works. It doesn't default to 'kill' just because you think it should. It's a null point because it could be any of the possible words, which means everyone is both correct and wrong about what word it could be, simultaneously.
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anyone seen that porn flash of 2b and a machine by derpixon
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>>171857656
>And right after that he went on to ASSURE her that Simone was simply mumbling gibberish.
>He was repeating it all the time to CONVINCE Toobie about it so she wont feel bad about her job.

Anon, after the Simone fight it's 9S who says "wow that machine had a lot of weird things to say, almost as if she had... emotions"

and it's 2B who tells him to shut up

how does that work with your theory
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Hi I'm shit at videogames
Why does my laser shot from my pod often seem to not hit at all, even though I am aiming at the enemy and can see the beam hitting?
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>>171857616
I know these aren't arguments for it, just wanted to mention that his actions were always on the more reckless side. Could be an indication that he knew about that assassin stuff or maybe that was just his personality.
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>>171858059
But aren't all the people he wants to protect gone?

AFAIK canon nier 1 ending is that Nier never existed, and while I don't think we ever learn for sure what happens to Kaine Emil's dialogue implies that she died between the events of Nier 1 and Automata. I mean obviously, she would've died of old age 50-60 years after the events of nier 1 even if she never got killed by anything.

I don't know if emil ever found her again after the events of nier 1 though, or if she ever discovered that Emil survived the fight with D&P
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>>171858086
No, porn is shit.
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>>171858084
>It really isn't.
This is not a counter argument. Just your personal denial.
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>>171853789
Top kek
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>>171858001
>when the androids interrupt your orgy
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>>171849479
I felt like the ending was more about games in general than this one specifically. It was about being passionate about games and standing up for that passion.
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>>171849953
>can't understand the emotions of other humans
>calls others autistic
is this poetry at its finest?
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>>171858095
He said it like
>That's total bllshit, right?
>I mean that such a stupid idea to consider!
>Cmon say it with ITS BULLSHIT, i wont think about it
>Machines don't have emotions
>That's right, atta girl
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>>171858105
A. because you're too far away, it has a much shorter range than your bullet pod

or

B. It *is* hitting, it's just not doing much damage and you've unequipped the visible damage numbers chip so you aren't sure. If so, re-equip the chip and check
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So I'm around 65, what should I do for max level?
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>>171857991
I don't know how canon the novellas are, but YoRHa has equipped 2B with a virus that instantly deletes his personality the moment he tried to hack into 2B. So Yorha does have anti 9s stuff.
Though they also made 9S trying to preemptively kill 2B, which honestly doesn't make sense.
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dead bodies everywhere
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>>171858507
Turn off internet, don't ruin the surprises.
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>>171857482
Anons please help me with my E M I L questions! Every day's a sale

>>171858427
now that I think about it, you're right, at least for the English dub. I'd have to listen to how he says the line in moonspeak though and see if it's consistent
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where are my saves located for the steam version?

i just read about the E ending and want to back my saves up first
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>>171849479
>gives a shit about undertale
>posts that bimbo 2B
kindly stop posting
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>>171858256
>But aren't all the people he wants to protect gone?

He has states multiple times (in the short story and now in Automata proper) that he still wants to protect the world the people he wanted to protect loved.
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>>171857656

>It means he has some memories from before he died blowing up his black box at the factory.

Maybe. He could only be talking about the gaps in his memory from the factory. Either way, this is non-evidence because you'd have to prove he has very specific memories to show he knows 2B's purpose already.

>He says he was alone, it was scare and lonely, and then she came aloof and so on.

Literally referring to his first memories of her in the game.

>He watched shit about "Brother, brother, i'll get the oil for you"

And mocked it for being a dumb machine, showing he clearly doesn't believe it feels.

>And right after that he went on to ASSURE her that Simone was simply mumbling gibberish.
>He was repeating it all the time to CONVINCE Toobie about it so she wont feel bad about her job.

To convince himself as much as her. Both 2B and 9S repeat shit like "machines don't feel emotions" and "emotions are not permitted" every time they get doubts about things, not just for each other, but for themselves.

>You do realize he's the most intelligent entity in on the entire planet? The story literally tells you that a couple of times. He is capable of figuring out the conspiracy but not seeing what's right in front of him?

HAHAHAHAHA

Okay, you got me with that one. I forgot that the game threw up a big announcement that 9S is literally the most intelligent entity on Earth.

>HE Saves her all the time.

9S saves her, but both of them have saves on the Bunker. What is your point?

>>171857804

The fact that he mocks it is proof he doesn't actually believe the machine is feeling anything. Later in the game when he starts to change his mind, he treats them like actual people and without mocking them for what they do.

>>171858009

>And he shouldn't remember it.

You just said he had an earlier backup of his memories from before the prologue mission

>Nor should he have close-combat skills.

Not this shit again
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>>171858010
Don't know if I remember right, but didn't 9S say something like "ah there you were 2B" when you chose to stay on earth?
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>>171858642
low test pleb detected
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>>171858442
It's not B. I figured the laser had the same range as the regular shot, so that must be it. Thanks.
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>>171857318
Copied City.
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>>171858762
>liking art that goes against basic anatomy and proportions
neck yourself or stop posting I care not which you choose
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>>171858427

Anon, either he thought Simone was just pretending to have emotions, or he was actually looking for reassurance from 2B.
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>>171857656

>You do realize he's the most intelligent entity in on the entire planet? The story literally tells you that a couple of times. He is capable of figuring out the conspiracy but not seeing what's right in front of him?

wat

are you being serious?
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>>171858760
I think so. I figured he meant he found her with the machines, in their network
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>>171857318

Desert. The sun effects, wind and sand sliding made an empty area pretty damn cool to fit the wasteland setting.
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>>171858743
>You just said he had an earlier backup of his memories from before the prologue mission
Because he does. If he doesn't, his comment makes absolutely no sense as his very first mission after the reset was with 2B and he never technically was alone on his current incarnation.
>Not this shit again
Truth hurts, anon. We all know this.
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>>171858871
Seeing that for the first time was so cool. The OST and the dead bodies made it all the more mysterious.
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>>171859050
I figured he found out that 2B was in the sword that was inside him.
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>>171859105
He said he had his memories up until just before they met in the factory.
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>>171856101
nothing unfortunately
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>>171858621
My documents > My games > NieR
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>>171849479
Lol you actually have any semblance of respect for Yatzhee or his opnions?

fucking disgusting, begone with you
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>100% the game

I feel empty now.
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Was the short story at the end of the world guide already translated? Otherwise i'll scan that one too
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>>171858621
JUST SAY NO

you get nothing for deleting your saves, no achievements, you don't need to do it for 100% completion: all you get is a new title screen which (at least on PC) won't stay if you back up and restore your saves

so you don't need to back them up, just say no to deleting them.
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What did A2 mean when she said command betrayed us? Did she know all along that yorha was meant to be torn down and replaced over and over again. Before you say
>play the game
I did, I got ending E but I'm retarded and overlook things a lot
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>>171859264
>He said he had his memories up until just before they met in the factory.
No, he didn't. He just generally remembers the time he was forced to infiltrate alone.
The whole impact of meeting 2B for him was because he FINALLY got a pair and was happy because of it.
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>>171847962
We shouldn't stay, we don't deserve what usually happens to /vg/ generals. Thanks for playing everyone!

[See you][Next time!]
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>>171858872
It's obvious that she would be missing a lot of parts in her chest to allow for such a shape - but I don't fap to 2D porn for practicality or realism. Her hands and spine and shit aren't obviously broken so it's good enough for my dick.
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>>171859271
>no panel drop to Operator
>No leather shorts with sleveless turtleneck/tanktop with shoulderblades exposed and short gloves
>no ponytail
no clean A2
Make it stop
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>>171859105

>Because he does. If he doesn't, his comment makes absolutely no sense as his very first mission after the reset was with 2B and he never technically was alone on his current incarnation.

If he remembers 2B from past iterations, and the Bunker left that data in his standard backup, then why would he pretend he doesn't every time he meets her? Why would he need to hide the fact that he knows who she is when he has no memories of her true purpose?

>Truth hurts, anon. We all know this.

Yes, because we haven't discussed this subject to death and proven again and again that it's nonevidence by this point.
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>>171858743
>You just said he had an earlier backup of his memories from before the prologue mission

SHIT MAN THAT IS THE POINT

He remembers himself before.
He is aware of dying repeatedly.
2B knew him long ago.
He remembers when she came.

Do you think they could have had a long lasting relationship so he would feel about her as family, when he remember everything but her?

No, perhaps 2B just killed the old 9S before the game starts and now he figured out he just re spawned and pretended that he just first met 2B
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>>171859470
Do a no weapons no plugin chips run
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>>171859629
because he loves her and it's tragic? I love that anytime the anon posts anything that directly follows your own logic like in earlier posts you just disregard it as non evidence or "lol no"
it's the most retarded shit I've seen in a long time
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>>171859218
Oh shit, good point. I didn't think of that
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>>171859592
Read the yorha screenplay, then you'll understand.
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archive fag here, I ordered a whole bunch of drakengard books and got my new camera, let me know if there is anything you need pictures of.
I have pretty much everything except for the story side novels of 1 and 2 and the materials artbook for 1, I'm just waiting for some money to come in to get those as well
>>171859587
as far as I know rekka only made a partial translation/summary of one of the stories, so if you could scan both it'd be great.
I own the book as well but I lack a proper scanner for books like that, so all I can do is take pictures
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>>171859937
there's a fucking screenplay?
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>>171859012
>are you being serious?

The game keeps telling you he's the most advanced android.
The evil conspiracy is AWARE of him being capable of figuring it out
That's why 2B is here with him.

BTW if Emil isnt a fucking genius nobody is smarter tha 9S.
He is THE smartest Android, machine intelligence is dumb as fuck. just really powerful but dumb.
Adam is also Dumb.
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>>171859629
>then why would he pretend he doesn't every time he meets her
Because she is his assassin and god knows what order of actions triggers termination order. So he plays safe.
>we haven't discussed this subject
Your personal denial is not "we discussed this subject".
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>>171860002
it's in one of the mega links in the op
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>>171859940
Alright, will do
I also need a new scanner soon, or i need to built one of those dual camera scanner things
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>>171857251
>That one line that pops up about 2B is ambiguous, which means the audience gets to decide what word Adam meant.
>>171857487
>It means "kill" is also included.
>>171858084
>No, that's not how it works
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>>171859937
They were sent to die just like Yorha at the beginning of Route C.

A2 survived just like you would have survived if you ran away (ending O)
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>>171859589
you get new sweet main menu
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How's this idea for a doujinshi?
>2B and 9S are androids being sold by a kind shop owner
>a rich douche buys 2B and accessories to turn her into a fuckbot
>9S is put into sleep mode by the owner to keep him from going out of control, but the rich douche tells the shop keep to turn his eyes on so he can record something
>rich douche kisses and touches 2B until she reacts, then waves goodbye at 9S using her breasts
>months later 9S is purchased by a lonely old lady, but runs away immediately to find 2B
>tracks down the rich guy's mansion, only to find him pounding 2B's pussy by a window
>rich douche notices 9S and asks his maid to fetch him
>maid is 21O, who has memories of 9S but has a strict protocol that prevents her from talking or even showing emotions
>21O leads 9S upstairs, where 2B is riding the rich douche like a woman possessed and screaming in pleasure at the top of her lungs
>9S charges at the man, but is kicked almost in half by 2B as the rich douche orders her to protect her master
>2B is crying, but rips 9S apart following her master orders
>21O picks up 9S's parts and tries to reassemble him as 2B is ordered back to fucking her master, but the rich douche tells 21O to throw the scrap heap out apart from his memory module and OS
>21O disposes of 9S's body and brings his chips to the rich douche
>rich douche puts his OS into a camera so 9S is forced to watch every moment of him and 2B fucking, with his memory module being partitioned and reused as a storage drive for the videos
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>>171860002
Stageplay.

http://nier2.com/yorha-stage-play/
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What did Taro mean by this?
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>>171858885
>or he was actually looking for reassurance from 2B.
He was baiting 2B to reassure him
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>>171860234
that you don't deserve, swine. anyway, about 50% of the time the menu reverts to menu 2 if you back up, so good luck fag

just delete it bitchboy. what are you gonna do with a your completed save anyway? Enemies won't scale to your level any more so the game is piss easy on any difficulty, it's not replayable in that sense like other platinum games.
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>black
>is actually gold
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>>171860353
>katana 9S
>katata/greatsword 2B
You're a boring person.
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So 9S's black box was made from a machine core imprinted with the data of the original Gestalt, right? That's why this game is still called Nier?
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>>171853876
He mentions Kaine a few times, even by name in Ending Y.
Also for added sadness I equipped the Grimoire Weiss pod skin when fighting Emil
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So when exactly does 9S's route start diverging from 2B's? I'm at the resistance camp and am just wondering.
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>>171860119
but that's not how it works.

The fact that what **** means is ambiguous does NOT mean it means everything. For example, you'd be right to say that it could mean fuck, or that it could mean kill, or that it could mean both.

You'd be wrong to say that it DOES mean both. It could, but it doesn't automatically mean both because it could mean either.
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>>171860502
N2 is made from Shadowlord data. All machines, and the cores of those machines that all Yorhas were made from, are not.
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>>171860464
In Japanese all the "virtuous" weapon names start with white and 9S' start with black.
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>>171860406
>that you don't deserve, swine.
???
i deleted my save you giganigga
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>>171860464
The blade point is black.
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>>171855776
We don't talk about that one
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>>171860564
When he gets separated from you in the flooded city, remember?
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>>171860502
what? no. where did you get that from?!
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>>171860502
It's called Nier because N2 is Nier 2 (twin) terminal leading machines with gestalts in to take the earth back from androids fighting for humans (replicants) on the moon
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>>171860603
Oh please. Tell me what you think it means and provide complete evidence to back it up
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>>171860717
That long?

I really gotta replay 2/3rds of the game before any real changes happen?
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>>171860734
stop
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I'm 65 hours in and I never encountered an infected body, how does this mechanic work?
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>>171855376
please put on a trip so I always know when you post your great art
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>>171860603
>You'd be wrong to say that it DOES mean both
I'm listening to your actual counter arguments. If you have any.
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>>171860824
Why? I'm kinda drunk and it's fun
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>>171860846
you die and don't do anything to your body
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>>171860538
>he mentions Kaine a few times

Yeah, but she's gone now. Depending on which is the canon ending of Nier 1 he either

1. Never found her again and she never learned he'd survived the fight with devola/popola.

2. Eventually found her and she learned he'd survived, but then she eventually died and left him alone. Even if nothing ever killed her she would've been dead from old age like 10,000 years before Nier Automata's story began

3. Nier killed her, see option #1

I'm pretty sure these are the only two options for what happened between Kaine and Emil between Nier 1 and Automata.

I'm also not sure how clearly he remembers her; doesn't he say something about how splitting himself into clones degraded his memories?
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>>171860734

fuck off cent
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>>171860794
Well there is plenty of extra unique information and details throughout the route.
There are unique sidequests for 9S as well.
There's also the golden machine lifeforms.

And if you don't care about all that, well the main questline can be rushed through especially easily with 9S.

C is very worth it though.
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>>171858493
Wait, what? Railgun has YoRHa insignia?
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>>171859784

>He remembers himself before.

He remembers being alone.

>He is aware of dying repeatedly.

He's a soldier. In a war.

>2B knew him long ago.

She did, he didn't.

>He remembers when she came.

Yes, which happened after the prologue going off his memories.

>Do you think they could have had a long lasting relationship so he would feel about her as family, when he remember everything but her?

They literally build that relationship over the course of the game. Did you even play it?

>>171859831

>because he loves her and it's tragic? I love that anytime the anon posts anything that directly follows your own logic like in earlier posts you just disregard it as non evidence or "lol no"

Because 'muh tragic' isn't proof of jack shit. You fuckheads keep trying to make 9S into someone that he, thematically and character-wise, simply is not.

>it's the most retarded shit I've seen in a long time

You people are literally trying to make up bullshit that Taro would have gladly inserted into the game if that was what he wanted to go for.

>>171860003

They never call him the most advanced android. They call him top-of-the-line. Moreover, calling him the most intelligent thing on the planet with Adam, Eve, and N2 are around is absolutely hilarious.

>>171860039

>Because she is his assassin and god knows what order of actions triggers termination order. So he plays safe.

If he knows she's there to kill him, he would know it's because he stumbled onto the truth. She only kills him when he discovers it. The only time he ever knew her purpose, he led her into a trap to stop her from killing him. That's nothing like the 9S you idiots keep trying to make him into, some sort of selfless Jesus figure who keeps killing himself for contrivance's sake. But wait, that contrasts completely with the other characterization of him you fuckheads want to make, which is him being a psycho who wants to kill 2B all along!

>Your denial

Read archived threads or fuck off
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Why are you even bothering with autist?
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How does A2's taunt work?

Is there any point running Taunt chips on her?

Am I locked out of holding-square attacks now?

Confused :S
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>>171860603
I'm just rewatchin Ending D on youtube.

There's nothing at all ever indicating 9S ever had any hard feeling for Toobie or was psychotic before she died. She was everything for him. That would be psychotic to want to hurt the only person you love.
And he wasnt psychotic.

AND if you pay attention to his emotions.
>She was an execitionere
9s gives a sad frown, it doesnt look like surprise, it looks like a sad "I know"
>She hated killing you
9S gives and emotional gasp
>But you knew it all along, didnt you?
YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT US

It's like she hit a nerve.

Really men, just replay or rewatch it.
You will drop you stupid ideas.
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>>171861181
still waiting for you to prove you're not full of shit and can even back up your own claim as to what **** can mean
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>>171860659
you deserve it if you deleted your save and didn't back it up. Obviously deleting your save means fucking nothing if you backed it up>

>171860737
>oh please
Just for the record, I'm not the guy you've been fighting with. Personally, I think it does mean Kill. But that's my interpretation. It isn't definitely kill just because it could be.

All I'm saying is that your argument seems to be that any possible answer is the correct answer; i.e. that kill is one of the correct answers, simply because it could be.

that logic is retarded. By that logic than any 4 letter word is one of the correct answers, instead of just a possibility
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>>171860564
It doesn't fully diverge until the events in the flooded city.

However there is plenty of additional story information, and a few extra cutscenes here and there along the way. For example, while the events in the Amusement park play out roughly the same in Routes A and B, there is additional information and cutscenes you didn't get the first time.

Also, there are sidequests unique to 9S that you could not get in Route A, which for the most part are more interesting than the route a fetchquests
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>>171861326
i think you mean another anon, i deleted my save and got the new sweet menu.

Will it revert back if i start a new game?
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>>171861181
>Adam, Eve, and N2 are around is absolutely hilarious.

They are dumb as fuck.
They are incapable of creating anything new, only imitating and regurgitating old concepts invented by people before.

Machines are dumb as fuck, Adam included.
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>>171861275
>How does A2's taunt work?
You deal increased damage to taunted enemies and they deal increased damage to you.
>Is there any point running Taunt chips on her?
Increase the damage you both do
>Am I locked out of holding-square attacks now?
Yes
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>>171860737
>>171860903

That's not necessary. It's ambiguous for the sake of letting the player decide what it means. Everyone is correct in their own heads, but there is no absolute answer. It cannot be given as evidence of anything.

>>171861298

It doesn't have to mean anything. All I'm doing is proving the theory that 9S is a secret psychopath/secret Jesus wrong. I don't have to provide proof of an alternative to show your theory is bullshit.
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>>171861528
>will it revert back if I start a new game

I don't believe so but I'm not sure. If it's like Nier 1, then it'll stay forever. I imagine it is like nier 1
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>>171861601
>It's ambiguous for the sake of letting the player decide what it means.
Except for kill
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>>171861601
>That's not necessary
Provide. Counter. Arguments.
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>>171861561

>They are dumb as fuck.
>They are incapable of creating anything new, only imitating and regurgitating old concepts invented by people before.
>Machines are dumb as fuck, Adam included.

I'm not going to argue with a retard about basic facts in the game. Adam literally evolves and learns through the entire first battle with him at an astounding rate. His intelligence is off the charts.
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>>171861181
I think it has to do with a comment chain I posted a while back of headcanon about how 9S's stupid self sacrifice for 2B ended up being convenient for her, but he misinterpreted it as meaning he knew about her 2E and thing and killed himself because of that, which is NOT how it went.
Wish I never posted that pic ffs
>>171861275
You hold square when looking right at an enemy and you'll notice their eye colors change and they start making steam to show anger.
You can do it as Toobs and Nines by flickering the light at them. You cannot make charged light attacks anymore, I'm afraid
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Nier always wanted to be a qt little girl.
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Okay the rest of this shit aside, I genuinely cannot comprehend why theres so much discussion about the "you want to **** 2B dont you?" thing I thought it was pretty clearly meant to be fuck but make you think "oh shit kill would fit that too" given that half the people who played the game seem to have came to the same conclusion and the game pushes the "love and hate are sides of the same coin" angle.

Why are people talking about it like it has to be a concrete answer one way or the other. Does the japanese version state that it can only be one of the two?
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>>171861858
One autist literally can't handle the fact that people think it can be kill
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>>171861856
Brother Nier probably thought of himself as a little girl after all the sex
And imagine how bad it was before the gestalt project when people still had regular 21st century jobs, there's no way he wasn't whoring himself out back then either
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>>171861561
The machines reached enlightenment and managed to free themselves from conflict and hatred. They managed to do what the androids couldn't and abandoned their purpose to seek new possibilities. The machines were superior.
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>>171861561
>They are incapable of creating anything new
You do realize that Adam was literally the new thing they made, right? They gave birth to him out of a giant machine cunt for christ's sake.
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>mfw all the 2B porn from source filmmaker
I've never been more excited desu
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>>171861793
>His intelligence is off the charts.

He learns from you.
He is incapable of generating any new ideas, that's why he is so rabid about studying humans and becoming like them .

Thats why the machines are an evolutionary dead end as Jackass says. They think really fast but they cant make anything new that hasn't existed before.

They even created Adam by imitating people having sex.
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>>171862159
>You do realize that Adam was literally the new thing they made, right? They gave birth to him out of a giant machine cunt for christ's sake.

He was an imitation of a human.
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>>171861856
N2 probably took on those forms because Devola and Popola were the faces of Project Gestalt.
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>>171862056
Actually Jackass' machine report explains that deficient network elements like The Forest King and Pascal's village were intentionally created by the network for diversity's sake. They too were part of the plan
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>>171861858
>>171862007
This desu. It's literally a nothing topic being used to spark a petty, useless argument.
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>>171862403
No, I mean, in the end, when the machine network commits suicide and then sets off their memories on an endless journey.
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>>171862187
>the machines are an evolutionary dead end
That is not what her report actually says. There are dead end machines but not all machines are dead ends. The reason why the war with the machines ends in Ending D is because the machine network evolved.
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>>171862036
>The machines reached enlightenment and managed to free themselves from conflict and hatred.

Shit man when you fight them as A2 you literally wait for them to become sapient, so they would immediately start fighting each other.

Before that N2 wasnt even at human level of intelligence, it was like sort of an ant hivemind.
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I really should go and finish off Drakengard series, but I'm stuck on 2 because I really don't feel like completing it more than once.
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>>171862175
Any good ones? Or is it just camera techniques with penis going through panties?
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>>171862495
Oh, okay.
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>>171861702

What are you on about now?

>>171861747

That's not how this works. Counterarguments require there to be an argument in the first place. You presented a piece of evidence. I've shown that evidence is faulty.

>>171862187

Intelligence is literally a measure of how quickly something learns. 9S was created with knowledge built in. Adam went from literally zero knowledge, a newborn, to able to perform complex combat techniques in a matter of a minute, tops.

>Thats why the machines are an evolutionary dead end as Jackass says. They think really fast but they cant make anything new that hasn't existed before.

You realize YoRHa androids are made with repurposed machine core technology, right? You're literally saying 9S is just as retarded as everyone else because you claim all machines are equally retarded.
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>>171862548
Well, all YorHa androids are machine-like thanks to their cores. I think N2 was deliberately messing with 9S the entire time to provoke reactions from him and learn his range of emotions, and it's from his self-destructive need to continue the slaughter that convinces N2 "this is fucking stupid. fuck the human server. i'm outta here."
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>>171862175
Where?
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>>171862770
It's A2 not fighting it on 042's orders that gets N2 to evolve and fuck off, 9S is strung along because N2 wants all the Yorhas dead.
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>>171862687
>Intelligence is literally a measure of how quickly something learns.
N2 learned existing knowledge really quick.
But it couldnt create any new knowledge.

It wasnt even sapient until A2 made it fight itself.
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So what I'm understanding from this thread is that Beepy did everything wrong
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>>171863092
>Beepy
Who? I haven't played any games before automata in this series.
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>>171863092
Yeah sounds about right
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This game is just completely average weebshit and you are all massive autists who can't seem to grasp even the most basic social cues.
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Are we going to have to delete all of these threads from the archives once this one hits the bump limit?
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>>171863002

>But it couldnt create any new knowledge.

Anon it built the whole Ark from scratch.

>It wasnt even sapient until A2 made it fight itself.

I don't think you know what sapient means. N2 was clearly sapient to begin with. What Pod 042 did to it was cause its unified front to collapse when dissent arose regarding its plans due to it fracturing its consciousness too much.
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>>171863238
there u go my dude
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Remember to take it easy and not reply to low effort bait.
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>>171863002
Have you ever made anything new?

Have you ever had a unique thought anon?
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>>171863238
t. Andromeda fan
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>>171863361
Only when trying to discuss Umineko
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>>171863092
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>>171862687
Only YoRHa is made from cores.
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>>171863361
I remember figuring out Archimedes law when i was like 3 or 4 before being told it that it already existed.
And I was completely unaware of it before,
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>>171854448
i found your porn folder
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>>171863339
This 2bhonest
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Can I just buy the weapon upgrade achievement in order to fight Emil?, grinding all the materials seems like a pain...
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>>171863361
Humans cannot do that, their imagination is inherently limited.

Try to imagine a new color for example.
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Is there any non-9S S-Type art?

>>171863092
His actions foiled the aliens who beat Emil so it all works out.
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>>171863339
I can't. Just like I deleted my save to repay the favor, I need to pay my (You) debt to others.
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>>171863642
No, pretty sure it's a flag for actually having them and all being leveled up.
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>>171851154
How did Emil get the power to repel an alien attack?
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>>171863642
No one has the right to complain about getting materials in Automata
Especially when they let you buy almost everything from shops and gave you easy money methods
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>>171863642
No, his quest doesn't unlock until your weapons are actually upgraded, he isn't unlocked by the achievement
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>2B and a squad of B models gets fucked by robots
>9S singlehandedly murders them all then hacks the virus out of his girl
Cute.
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>>171854448
Wanna hold hands?
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>>171863695
>Humans cannot do that, their imagination is inherently limited.
High level mathematics is all about things you cant see or have encountered in life.
Same is quantum physics
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>>171863784
Anon you played original nier right?
He's powerful as fuck.
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>>171863826
no way fag
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>>171863567
The 2Booty zip really needs to be compiled and called SoulBox.zip
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>yfw
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>>171863339
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>>171864052
SMASHING
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>>171863971
What would be in the meat and god box?
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>>171864052
My face said "well I can't wait to get bored of the combat after 5 hours"

I was not mistaken
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>>171863820
Not necessarily
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>>171864203
God box would be just random pictures of real people
Meat box would be full of Caim lewds
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>>171862610
Every single one is a tease
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>>171863889
That is not imagination, it's analysis and discovery of existing mechanisms in nature. You can't invent quantum mechanics or mathematical rules, you can only discover them.
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>>171864203
9S in meatbox
Commander in Godbox
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>>171864209
t. guy who mashes light attack and evade
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>>171863740
>S-Type art?
They all look like him lol.

At Bunker you can see a screen with a bunch of identical portraits, and in Route C you're contacted by black haired S droid,
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>>171864052
I felt like I was done with the tutorial now and the real game finally starts.

I was prepared for another 70 hours.
Too bad that wasn't the case.
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>90% Unit Data
>this bitchboi wants 95%
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>>171864321
well, there is a futa one where futa 2B is getting 2Boned by two other futas, or rather is just getting penetrated by one while the other's dick is just by 2B's head, meanwhile 2B's dong sways back and forth
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>>171864372
>That is not imagination, it's analysis and discovery of existing mechanisms in nature. You can't invent quantum mechanics or mathematical rules, you can only discover them.
Ok then what is art?
The concept of art didn't exist in nature until people came up with it.
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>>171864424
Nope you're wrong there. Combat is your bog standard Platinum shit that's designed for 4~6 hour long games.
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>>171864531
Check out the japanese wiki and start hunting for rare enhanced types, then save/load til your eyes bleed.
This is the fate of an S-type
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>>171864667
>nope you're wrong there
sure bud let's see some sick gameplay of yours
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>>171858493
real question

how much of the flight unit is there?
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>>171864752
>sick gameplay of yours
Are you seriously doing the "hurr it's better than your game" argument?
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>>171864614
Sure it did, nature creates art every single day. Every lifeform is a work of art by randomized DNA. Every scenery and rock formation.

The concept just didn't exist for humans until we learned to make use of it for depicting stuff.
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>>171864772
In the book? 3-4 pages
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>>171864891
No I want to see video of you, the master gamer, taking full advantage of what the combat system offers considering you've already mastered it in 4 hours
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>>171864901
Art is a specific activity in which not a single other animal indulges.

Nobody other than humans wasted time and energy on making thing that serve no purpose other than to stroke it's feelings.
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>>171864949
=C
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>>171864972
>considering you've already mastered it in 4 hours
The combat system is extremely shallow compared to other types of these game, you'd understand where I'm coming from if your only experience hasn't been platinum trash.
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>>171864472

There's 2 other S models (that I've spotted), the Terminal NPC who is later kidnapped by that resistance guy who just looks like 9S with black hair and 4S, who has brownish hair that is cut differently.

Those others on the screen are just girl units with the chopped hair, you can tell by their poofy sleeves/neckline.
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>>171865237
What's happening in this picture?
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>>171865181
Not him but lol for sure.
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>>171865181
Just because it doesn't offer as much as Bayonetta or the main DMC entries doesn't mean it's shallow. fuck off to /v/eddit with your "if it's not literally perfect it's trash" argument. I bet you haven't fucking once touched a DMC game.
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>Playing Nier for the first time
>Studied languages and how they're created and spread.
>mfw this fake language in Nier's music is this weird as fuck lingual mutt with a scott gaelic base but with quirks and grammatical features thrown in from everything from classical Latin to French to Hebrew to fucking Russian

I have no idea if these songs even translate to jack shit but they really shouldn't flow from the tongue as well as they do. Whomever wrote this language is an absolute madman.
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>>171847962
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE JUST GET ME A CLEAN RIP OF POD'S "YOU'VE GOT MAIL" VOICE LINE?
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>>171865163
Art is just breaking down and mixing matter to create new matter, something that nature has done for ages.

It doesn't matter if humans enjoy the outcome or purposefully engage in it or not.
Plus I'm pretty sure there are birds with color preferences for their nests or that steal glittering objects that don't serve a purpose other than for them to indulge in it too.
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It's shallow and doesn't work well in a game of this length. They wasted budget on hiring platinum to make the same combat but flashier. Bravo.
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Tip I found for anyone grinding out levels to fight Emil bosses.

You only need to use the A2 grind pits until you're at least strong enough to beat the amusement park statue. After that, fight the statue over and over again (use level 3 blade program to speed up waking him up). He gives out a ton of XP and somewhere in the level 90s 9S can kill him in a single hack. Got my last ten levels after only a few fights.
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>>171865689
they put auto-play mode in for you, don't worry
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>>171865689
>(you)
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>>171865689
>can't even reply properly because he's typing through the tears
pathetic dude. /v/eddit is more up your alley
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>>171865689
The combat isn't particularly deep, but I don't think that itself is the issue.
The issue is the lack of good bosses, all you get to actually make use of the combat on are shitty common enemies.
In that regard, I definitely expected more from Platinum.
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>>171865420
She's cutting the tail off his bandanna.
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>>171865489
Emi Evans is a genius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2IocBjVxrU
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>people are actually defending the combat
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>hack one of those snake looking machine fucks with 9S
>go see if I can still interact with npcs
>i can
>decide to try and do the speed challenge quests
>the speed machine doesn't move
>can just slither over to the finish line unopposed

ez
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>>171865689
>They wasted budget on hiring platinum to make the same combat but flashier. Bravo.
Platinum just copied their curayzee and star fox engines with some modifications.
SE developing a new system for the game would have been way more expensive.
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>>171865948
>lack of good bosses
>>>/v/eddit kiddo
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>>171865689
>>171865836
No the mistake was with making platinum make an RPG.
They should have made Platinum make a CUHRAYZEE slasher out of it and add a baby mod for it so everybody could play.

instead they decided to make platinum add some semi cuhrayzee elements into an action rpg.
Well it's still better than shit that any other studio would make or than abomination of a combat system in old Nier.
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>>171865830
Lol....
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Sell me Drakengard 3, /ndg/
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>>171865961
>people are fishing for replies because they're unable to create quality discussion or actually do literally anything else but shitpost on an malaysian ham radio hobbyist website
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>>171865948
>severely overleveled in route C just from doing sidequests and shit
>even on hard mode take a complete dump on 9S/A2 in a single combo string
>don't even get to experience most of the boss
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>>171866123
what a retarded suggestion, fuck off
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>>171866209
we can't, it's shit with exception of story
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>>171865830
Or just hack it and get massive bonus exp.
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dont let the general end like this anons. not with needless shitposting.
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>>171865961
I hope this general doesn't become Automatacirclejerkgeneral.

>>171866089
The bosses are what I expect from Nier, not from Platinum.
I had fun but didn't really feel the Platinum Games side of things.
But you're just fishing for (you)'s at this point, aren't you.

>>171866228
Did you play on Hard? It kiiiinda fixes that issue, though with the right chip setups it gets mostly quite easy.
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>>171866228
This is what pissed me off too, everything became brainless after a while.
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newfag here, should I buy this game or not?
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>>171865961
I don't get what people were expecting honestly. You can make every combat system boring or more complicated than it has to be. Even actual character action games
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>>171859470
Can't bring myself to play the game more than an hour or so per day after I've unlocked E.
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There's something that's been bugging me.

We see two other bases in both the Council Vid and the beginning of C, but we never learn what they do. Only the Bunker is shown sending troops down via the videos.

We also see something exploding in space when running through the infected Bunker.
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>>171866414
It's an alright game, ye.
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>>171866414
Yes.
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>>171866370
>I hope this general doesn't become Automatacirclejerkgeneral.
HAHA yeah good luck with that
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>>171866209

It's got some pretty good banter/story (and an A+ final boss), but I hope you have your PS3 set up so you can also be watching/doing something else as you try to play the game.
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>>171848295
Just make [AA] route, like Excel
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>>171866414
Enjoyed previous games? Yes.
Didn't enjoy? Roll.
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>>171866370
>I hope this general doesn't become Automatacirclejerkgeneral.

I WANT TO CUM INSIDE ANGELUS!
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>>171865948
This I'll give you. The combat itself is great, it's viscerally fun to play and very engaging if you actually try to take advantage of all your options, but there aren't a whole lot of opportunities to really do so.

Halfway through the game you start to just naturally outlevel everything, if you stay on normal there isn't a chance in hell you'll ever die, and all hard does is increase the damage you take, which doesn't stop you from tearing through waves of enemies or bosses in seconds.

And don't get me started on the post-game. It really feels like level 50 should've been the max.
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>>171866453
>We also see something exploding in space when running through the infected Bunker
this is a big deal

there are other android support facilities out there. they are not necessarily YorHa but might as well be more important
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>>171866257
>>171866524
What's so bad about the gameplay? Clunky? Boring?
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>mfw get to route C
>mfw it's all going to hell so fucking quick
It hurts bros. Is this the true Taro experience i'm getting into?
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>>171866697
Combat framerate averages from 5-20FPS
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>>171866697
>Clunky
this + major framerate fuckage
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>>171866704
Dont stop, dont ask, just keep going for the E.
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>>171866370
It probably might.
Another reason to stop at Z I guess.
It will be burnt to the ground and forgotten eventually. Given the nature of the games it would be fitting way to go.
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>>171865960
wow, neat
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>>171866414
Definitely
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>Yoko Taro complaining on twitter about how fast Automata is outselling his other games, because now he'll be expected to work harder
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>>171866564
>you will never sniff Mikhail's musky thick, dragon dick
why live?
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>>171866770
>>171866782
Why we can't have nice things... Scenario at least worth it?
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>>171866878
automata sold well?
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>>171865948
>>171866228
The biggest problem is the levelling system, it doesn't combine well with platinum's style of gameplay.
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The problem is less the battle system and more the enemy design tbqh
No one in the game really needs you to do anything other than your attacks and dodge and unlike other Plat games, there's very little incentive to vary gameplay with style meters and the such
Even "secret" battles like Father Servo's final form or Emil have pretty barren moveset, nothing really quite comes to the pure mechanical diversity of a Grace & Glorious from Bayo 1

I don't feel like it could have been really changed without pretty much redoing the game from scratch but I hope at least if the collaboration keeps going there will be more enemies who aren't only difficult because they outlevel you by 20
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>>171866994
>sexy robot platinum game with an amazing art stle from PLATINUM and some weird mask dude nobody heard about but he looks cool.

Go figure.
It has Platinum and 2Butt on it's cover.
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>>171847962
>"i hope to see you again someday"
>doesnt appear in automata
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>171866994
First week in Japan sold ~200k copies, which is more than any of his old games sold in total over there.
At least that's what I read, I'm not too interested in sales data.
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>>171866878
>complaining despite this being the least of amount of work he's had to do for a game

Never change Yoko Taro. Never change.
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>>171864126
AVAVAGO
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>>171866697

Clunky (although I did really like how you could combo/weapon swap), very repetitive. The weapon variety tricks you into thinking there's more engaging things to do than mash attack.

>>171866994

Compared to the others, yes. 2B's ass + platinum hype really brought in the gaming hoi polloi.
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What are these routes you lads are talking about?

Also are any of the other games in this series actually good?

These games seem pretty autistic, but in a good way.
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>>171866994
http://gematsu.com/2017/03/media-create-sales-31317-31917
Looks decent to me.
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>>171866651
The Council AI says it's a network of orbiting bases at the beginning, but the characters only talk about the Bunker.

Unless it's like Nier and they don't bother to talk about things beyond the area the story takes place in.
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>>171867194
http://gematsu.com/2017/03/media-create-sales-22017-22617

Here's the source.
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>>171867103
>The problem is less the battle system
Nah, the problem is in the combat system itself. Spam is always the most effective tactic. Light/heavy mixups are sub-optimal. Almost all heavy movesets are shit. 9S became my favorite character because of his ranged moveset and access to a whole another mechanic.
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>>171867280
Different endings.
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>>171851154
>veins
>foreskin

Taro, you madman.
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>>171867103
People always go on about style.
This game didn't have the platinum style system in mind.

His has been said many times; but in development it was said the gameplay was supposed to be similar but fucntion better than the first games and needed to be simple enough to where anyone could play it.
With this in mind it has accomplished that goal, but I suppose people expected more.
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>>171867103
It would help if you could actually juggle enemies. I don't know if it was different on PS4 or not but I'm finding that the only things I can really juggle are standard grunt enemies, and if something's in the middle of an attack animation, even if do the evade-counter juggle they don't launch. It also seems completely impossible to juggle any form of major/boss enemy, regardless of its size, with the only exceptions being Adam/Eve. It's a shame; I probably would have enjoyed the final Father Servo fight if I could have actually done something to him other than get a quick ground combo off then dodge back to hack half his hp off, But that was the only effective strategy.
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>>171867280
>What are these routes you lads are talking about?
The game gives you a completely different experience every time you replay it.
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>>171866983
story is nice but at this point i would just watch clemps story analysis.
Why suffer through clunky game?
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>>171867315
Given we only learn that the resistance has fucking Aircraft Carriers the moment it becomes relevant and the only taste of the resistance we ahd gotten to that point was a small camp.

There's probably a couple billion other androids.
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>>171867357
>Spam is always the most effective tactic
They should have really made combos not connect if you just spam the buttons.
A little bit of timing requirements would have made this more interesting.
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>people not getting that the combat is meant to become boring to symbolise a point about the endless war
it's like this is your first taro game
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>>171867280
>Also are any of the other games in this series actually good?

Not really. They're considered cult classics because they're weird and interesting, but the reason Automata is taking off is because it's the first one with objectively good (or at least mechanically adequate) gameplay.
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>>171867280
>Also are any of the other games in this series actually good?

Depends on how you define good. Drakenguard 1 and 3 and Nier have good stories, but with varying degrees of jank, with Nier being the most playable out of all them.
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>>171851154
>Immortal gay skeleton fights against an army of Penises and loses.
>Machines likely built in his image by penises ends up killing them instead.
What did Taro mean by this?
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>>171867502
I'm from generation that despises let's players and camwhores so I would rather play it by myself unless gameplay is really cancerous and a chore that would kill all the enjoyment. I can suffer through some defects.
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>>171867780
only a penis can kill itself
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>>171867384
>>171867498

How many different routes are there? I guess I'm on route 2 then since I'm on my second playthrough?
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>>171866994
without steam it was looking at this best selling game, easily outselling every old game he made

with steam it might have doubled the sales.
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>>171865516
>play game
>turn off music and sound effects
there you go
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>>171867397

>gay skeleton wizard fights off army of dicks from outer space

pottery
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>>171867780
Nothing, the chances of it being anything more than jap humour is strikingly low.
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>>171847962
>mega doesn't have drakengard soundtracks
>pastebin doesn't either
Anyone know where I can find them?
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>>171867824
Clemps is not a let's player though, he just did analysis for those who can't/don't feel like playing it
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NieR 3 someday?
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>>171867840
>>171867780
>>171867935
I left out the most important part.

>virgin gay skeleton kid.
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>>171867856
There are 5 endings in Automata. Since you're on your second play through, you'll be getting Ending B, then C, D, and finally E.
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>>171867856
3.

First two are the same events from different perspectives, third is all new content with three endings branching off from the end.
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>>171868078
hopefully not, taro needs to drop this and do something else
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How do quests work on subsequent playthroughs?
Does their progress carry over, with the completed ones being unavailable, or do they reset?

My OCD is itching me to complete every quest, but it'd probably prove tiring to do so in a single playthrough.
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Honestly when it comes to combat in Automata i found way more fun in using 9S than other characters. You don't need to brainlessly spam with him, his most powerful (almost gamebreaking) attacks are all charged attacks with fuckhuge range and damage per hit.

Spear perfect dodge counter => javelin throw with Overclock is probably the most satisfying combo i ever did in the game despite its simplicity. And his combo strings flow into each other when you swap weapons so fluidly it feels natural.

Pods are also godly. I wish they used energy gauge instead of flat cooldowns though. Maybe make it 9S's specific thing as during his battle with A2 he spams the everliving shit out of pod programs like a technowizard.
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>>171867856
>How many different routes are there? I guess I'm on route 2 then since I'm on my second playthrough?
3 routes with 5 different endings.
Having beaten route A you have finished about half of the game.

Also there's a secret ending that takes some grinding to achieve, it's also noteworthy.
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does anyone sell elaborate gadgets
i don't want to scanner more
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>>171868118

>drugged and kidnapped by tyrann in the drama cds
>virgin

doubt.jpg
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>>171868203
Any fished quest remains completed, any half finished quest must be restarted from the beginning.
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>>171868203
9S can finish the quests 2b skipped and has some of his own.

Also you will get chapter select in the end.
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>>171868078
Only if it has nothing to do with this game.
I don't want my headcanon ruined again
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>>171868203
If you've completed a quest it will stay completed.
If the quest is in progress you will have to start it over.
2B and 9S each have their own unique sidequests as well.

There will be a chapter select later on though so don't fret too much.
But I do recommend doing them do since quite a bit of the sidequests add a lot of details to the main story.
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>>171868334
D-does that mean I don't get a second chance to save the child robot who ran away from its mother?
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>>171868078
I doubt it. He's done pretty much everything he can with the world now. The only thing he could do is make a prequel, which would be pointless since we know the backstory of everything.

It's more likely that he makes another Drakengard or something new.
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>>171868331
If he's had sex he'd know how to handle a prnis.
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Could someone explain to me exactly what are the twins lolis that appear in the tower?
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>>171868483

He rocked their world so hard they made machines in his image.
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>>171868576
Manifestation of the machine network.
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>>171868473
I don't know, I finished that quest on my first try. I assumed it would reset if you fail like the parade quest.
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>>171868078
No, unless it takes place literally in another world. The whole point of ending E is that nobody has power over what happens next anymore and that it happened by defying the entire development team.
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>>171868576
N(ier)2
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>>171868643
And Adam and Eve are not the same?
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>>171868473
That's what I thought as well, turns out the quest goes on even if you fail to escort it
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>>171868751
No they are individuals with a physical body that connect to the network, or sever their connection in adam's case.

Terminal alpha and beta are the network itself.
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>>171868751
Adam and Eve were happy accidents.
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>>171868751
They're N2s answer to 9S as the most human machines and likewise the most unstable.
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>>171868704
I thought fighting the credits was a way of getting revenge for everyone usually just skipping them.
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>>171868028
Don't worry, my man.
https://my.mixtape.moe/gcqgfa.rar
And
https://my.mixtape.moe/ietgjn.rar
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>>171868293
Emil might when he's by the Resistance camp. I can't remember everything he sells there.
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Which animation studio should be responsible for an adaptation to the anime of Nier Automata?
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>>171868947
Thanks anon. Uh, just one question though. What's an opus file and what the hell do I do with it?
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>>171869380
ufotable
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>>171869380
Deen
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Is there a single song in the soundtrack that doesn't make you cry after beating the game?

I have trouble with all of them, especially Emil's Shop Theme
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>>171867190
We know she exists because she is the one who gives the weapons to that vendor in the camp
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>>171869403
Just open it with an audio player..?
You know, like foobar or something.
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>>171868931
That's a pretty interesting thought given the whole ending D where all 3 of them discard their hatred and travel to the starts together.
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>>171867357
While I agree the pod is a kinda broken option, you can't really separate the easily cheesable game with how lackluster the enemy design is
The thing with options like the pod / hacking is that there's absolutely no incentive to do anything really other than this. It'd be easy for exemple to have more enemies later in the game resilient against long ranged options (which would settle the pod's gatling as a beginner clutch) or encourage more thoughtful variation in light / heavy. I agree the combat system has flaws, but I still feel enemy variety is a much more important factor, and in Automata's case they don't really get smarter, and in some cases outright discourage you from doing anything other than pressing R1 (those swirly fuckers in particular are particulary stupid). I simply don't feel like it was a particular focus, when it would definitely give some more meat to the game (Beauvoir is imo one of the most well designed bosses because it encourages you to stop relying on automatic aiming but rather manuel to get around her waves of bullets, for exemple).

>>171867398
>This game didn't have the platinum style system in mind.

While I do agree with this, I feel like it's also of a lame cop-out. You can have an action game focused on RPG elements and still manage variety. To give another exemple, KH2 has a fuckload of RPG elements, but still kept at its core a skill-based progression, and it's obvious there's a huge difference in moveset between the first and last enemies.

While it's a good thing Taro finally has a game that is enjoyable, or at least for the most part tedium, I don't think it's a bad thing to still note the current shortcomings. Refined gameplay can compliment refined storytelling greatly, and it'd be interesting to see where a long-lasting collaboration could help Taro as well.
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>>171857318
The Tower and the Forest Kingdom (I love these dumb knight machines).

>>171867645
I don't buy those bullshit explanations.

>>171869380
Sunrise or Ufotable. Sunrise for the mechs and superhuman fights, Ufotable for the fights and the fx wich would actually work with Automata's setting.
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>>171866004
>Flooded City
>Manage to hack the snake robot that's flying around over there
>So excited to try out this new robot
>Immediately plummet into the sea
Well fug
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>>171869530
Sadly most of the soundtrack was more on the ambient side of things.
Aside from Vague Hope and Weight of the World nothing provokes tears.
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>>171869540
That makes it even worse since we know we could meet her we just didn't
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>>171869380
Same guys that did Casshern Sins because they can just re-air it and save themselves the effort.
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>>171869662
Oh, that's all? I wouldn't have thought of that.

Really though, thanks. I'm just never seen that filetype before so it through me off.
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>>171869880
Actual animations in Casshern aside from few combat scenes were horrible. They even started reusing combat scenes.
GOAT show though. The whole "i will ruin you because i love you" moment was so close to Automata it hurts.
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If Yoko Taro and Gen Urobuchi ever collaborated on a project would the world kill itself in despair?
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>>171869880
>opening just starts with the Luna / Casshern scene but with 2B and 9S
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>>171870080
It's a bit clunky and more simple than DoD3. Other than Automata, it's the most playable.
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>>171870080
No, Nier is actually playable. Not great, but good enough that doesn't get in the way.
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>>171870080
Nah, it's clunky but it's perfectly serviceable, and there's no framerate issues.
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>>171870080

First Nier plays like a really ghetto Zelda. It's not great but it's not terrible. You can dodge, block, swing, charge, and jump.
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I really wish there was a way to reset your level. It'd be nice to replay the game with all of the weapons unlocked but without killing everything in a single hit.
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>>171870080
On that subject, should I play Gestalt or Replicant first?
Or are they the same game?
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>>171870409
Same game, mostly, though the characters of Father and Brother Nier do have some substantial differences.
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>>171870409
Same game but Nier's relationship with Yonah is different depending on which version. But unless you can read jap, you're stuck with Gestalt
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>>171870315
I miss Papa Nier
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>>171870409
There exactly the same, just Gestalt has an older protagonist trying to save his daughter, while Replicant has a younger protagonist trying to save his sister. All comes down to preference if you have the choice, but Gestalt was the only one released in english.
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Who are those little girls at the end and why do they have an old guy voice?
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>>171870409
>replicant and gestalt are same game only with kinda different protags
>i want to play replicant because i'm shallow but it's only in japanese
well boys wish me luck for the maybe rerelease that will possibly contain brother nier
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>>171869880
>>171870174
>Casshern
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylutP4zuIfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EoNO-OIOiA
Why the fuck you reminded me about those feels when i'm already empty because of Automata.
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>>171870534
>>171870617
Guess I'll go with replicant then. I hope the Japanese level is as easy as it was in Automata, played that with Japanese text too and was pleasantly surprised by how simple it was, even in the novel sections.
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>>171870662
I could be mistaken, but if you mod your ps3 cant you play replicant with the gestalt script slightly modified to change dad into brother or some shit? I recall reading about that somewhere
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>>171870621
Not fully sure what they are, but the voice thing is a reference to Drakenguard 1.
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>>171870621

Manifestation of the network, the old dude voice under a little girl's voice is probably a callback to Manah.
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>>171869380
Production IG, Madhouse or Trigger with GoHands and White Fox
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>some random bitch jumps down and kills the egg(?) thing in the forest
>never see her again

wow, great writing there. simply fantastic stuff.

really glad I paid fucking $60 for this "game"
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goodbye /ndg/ and remember to stay out of the desert, it can fry your brain
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>>171870832
ELABORATE

>>171870936
i felt the same way too at first fag, just keep playing
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>less than 100 posts left
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>>171870936
>hasn't gotten to route 3 yet.
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where I can find the weapons of A2?
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>>171870936
>the egg(?) thing
If you're not going to pay attention at all why complain about writing
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>>171870797
Good luck anon. Be sure to tell us how Brother Nier is as a character. I heard his character is bit more dynamic than Papa Nier's
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>>171869839
We were just off by a few decades to meet her
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>>171871124

I get it's the "Forest King" or whatever, but it still looked like an egg
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How do you damage Emil? I'm lvl 61 with lvl 3 pod and I'm doing literally 0 damage.
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>>171871141
I think he's only more dynamic if you include the one novella about him.
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>>171870936
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>>171871247
Grind in the desert city pit where you found the robot orgy until around level 70 then go to the amusement park and kill the golden bunny three or so times, then you'll be able to beat Emil no problem.
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>>171869880
Thanks for reminding me Casshern and the fact I've watched it when it aired, became emotionally devastated and now years after I can't remember shit what was it all about. Same way I will probably forget about Automata that occupies my mind now.
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>>171871005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrOSWHCZW28

it seems like its literally just the english script pasted in, so some lines don't match what the characters are saying. Also it seems like people in the youtube comments had a hard time finding a download for it that exists.
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>>171871141
Papa > Bro
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>>171871298
I remember hearing how he takes Devola and Popola's betrayal harder than Papa Nier does. Also as the game progresses he's basically becoming Caim 2.0 when it comes to shades.
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So the Weight of the World lyrics are about 2B, right.
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>>171871141
I'm still unsure if I want to buy it, is it also self contained in it's story or do I need to play the DoD games?
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>>171871453
I won't argue that, but I've heard the game was made primarily with Brother Nier in mind, and the writing reflects that. I'm just curious if there's any truth to that.
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>>171871365
>golden bunny
What? Also the copied city has higher level enemies so grinding there should be easier. The room where you fought Adam has infinite respawning, too.
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Jesus. That feel when being so careful to finish side-quest before story quest to avoid point of no return.

Then one side quest is really fucking close to the point I don't realize it's a story quest, activate it, finish it and fuck. Realized I passed a point of 'no-return' after i save.

Quest failed:
>Turf-War
>Robo Dojo-Black Belt
>Lord of the Valley
>Emil's Memories (FUCK, I wanted to finish this one)
>The wandering couple


No spoilers please, but did I miss anything significant here?
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>>171871451
>>171871005
actually I found a 5 part download link on some shitty website that forces you to make an account to download but I didn't test it
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>>171871554
It's self-contained. All playing DoD does is let you see the root cause of why they did what they did. I'm sure there's a note somewhere in the game (or DLC) that explicitly spells it out. DoD 2 is not required at all really, and from what I hear the only reason to play it is for completion's sake, or if you really like dragons. And Caim.
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>>171871607
The statue in the amusement park. Hit it over and over again to agro it (used charged up blade program to speed up the process).
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>>171871663
How retarded can you be? Story missions are marked separately.
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>A2's memories were taken from the memories of a young girl who lived a happy life with her grandmother, likely in reference to Kainé.
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>>171871663
You can do them whatever so no big deal
Play the game.
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>>171871663
Don't worry, you didn't actually miss them. You'll get a chance later.
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>>171870936
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>>171871860
I just got to the [Spoiler]sunken City[/spoiler], i just wanted to explore. Encountered some enemies with a quest mark, killed them and got forced onto the mission after.

>>171872007
Ah k. Thanks.
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>>171871762
Is the DLC included in the ultimate hits edition?

I ordered that one because it was just 40 bucks as opposed to 150 for the original on amazon.
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>>171871663
Emil Memories ties into another quest later on for a very nice scene.
Lord of the Valley unlocks a shop.
Turf War allow you to ride animals without using an item.
The others only give you materials as far as I remember.
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>>171872156
_no
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>>171872156
Truthfully I don't know. Sorry anon but you're rapidly entering an area beyond my knowledge.
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>>171871841
Thanks, will try that out next time
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Is it just me or Nines got mad not at her words about 2B being E but when she mentioned that it was painful for her to do it, forcing him to feel guilt?
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>>171872478
Yes.
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As a Nier fan, the sequel gave me everything that i wanted.

But as a Drakengard fan, i feel empty inside.
I think what i really want deep down is just Drakengard 1 with Nier: Automata gameplay.

DON'T CHANGE THE MUSIC.
DON'T CHANGE THE STORY.
DON'T CHANGE THE CHARACTERS.
PUT BACK IN SHIT THAT WAS CENSORED.

All i want is for the gameplay to be reworked.
Nier is fine but Nier is like the "family friendly" version of Drakengard.
Nothing in both Nier and Nier:A even remotely come close to what Drakengard can offer.

I want muh Caim again.
I'm never gonna get what i want, aren't i?
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Praise be unto Yoko just got ending E
>dat chorus joinng in
> dying to UI DESIGN repeatedly
God that ending was an experiance
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World Book came in the mail, I guess this makes up for not getting the artbook from the Black Box.

These novellas are kinda long.
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After finishing A-E, which is the best chapter to load if I'm doing Reconnaissance Squad(95% unit data) and Emil's quest?
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>>171872779
It was cool but having a singleplayer game require an internet connection to unlock an ending is absolutely retarded and should never be done.
I was without internet when i first tackled the credits and spent roughly 50 tries thinking it could be done solo and i just wan't good enough, had to look up the gimmick when my internet came back.
Unacceptable.
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Guys, name me a mecha bullet hell game
I need this
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Why N2 forces 9S to go through so much of shit? It seems to be specifically torturing him emotionally for the entire route C.
Evolutionary pressure? They allowed him to get into the Ark after all.
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>>171872856
>These novellas are kinda long.
Please post them. How many are there?
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How did the Devola and Popula from the "town over" fuck over project gestalt? Will I find out if I play the first nier?
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Well I hope the journey from C-Z was a fun one. I certainly did. It was nice and comfy and I enjoyed discussing plot, characters and having a giggle here and there.

Here's to seeing what happens after this, whether it's a shortlived continuation or the decline into degeneracy.
Just remember in the furture that this is the path you chose.
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>>171872993
Play Radiant Silvergun and Ikaruga
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>>171873042
Yes.
Do you want to be "that guy" that played MGR but not MGS 1-4 before it?
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>>171873059
Were it so easy.
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>>171872478
He gets mad because she tries to show him that she empathize with him and 2B and care about them. As far as 9S is concerned, 2B's assassin is standing there telling him all about how nice 2B was and how she would have wanted 9S to be a good boy and how she understands his feelings toward 2B.
Of course he is getting mad, the fact that he's batshit insane at that point certainly does not help.
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>>171873116
I guess I'll head over to gamestop and buy a used copy of Nier then, thanks senpai.
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>>171871425
There's a massive amount of similarities between the two if you look. I really do think Taro look a lot from it.
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So I finished my first playthrough and I did up to pascals village on the 9S playthrough. How long does it take for the main story to deviate? i don't want to replay everything I just did for 10 second cutscenes of new stuff.
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>>171873034
There's two. I was thinking of translating them, but that might take a while.
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>>171872478
>>171873209
9S and 2A are autistic as fuck.

>REEEEE U KILL MUH WAIFU I KILL U
>i could explain the entire situation to you in 2 seconds but i'm too busy standing around looking 2cool4school and being an enigmatic distant figure to you

A lot of shit could've been avoided if 9S wasn't such a fucking sperg and 2A wasn't so goddamn chuuni.
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>>171873641
I hate 9S.

Japs can only make cucks and annoying bitch bois in their games wtf
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>>171872993
Einhander on the PS1, similar to the sidescroller shmup
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>>171873641
Well she started out Chuuni, than changed each time 9S saw her.

She went from uncaring, to being concerned, to trying to talk him out of whatever he was doing.
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>>171873628
I'd rather read them in Japanese.

How long are they? Maybe I can help you translate them if it isn't too much effort.
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>>171873569
Flooded city, remember?
He separates from you.
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Favorite weapon type? I'm all about A2 with double combat bracers.
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>>171873768
Go suck some bara papa Nier westernized dick.
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>>171873059
Thank you senpai!
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>>171873904
BRACERS
BRACERS
BRACERS
BRACERS
BRACERS

LITERALLY THE ONLY GAME IN YEARS TO GET FIST WEAPONS RIGHT
I'VE CHECKED THE LIST OF WEAPONS FOR THE UPCOMING DaS3 DLC AND THE DRAGON BONE FIST ISN'T THERE
WHY THE FUCK DID NIER GET IT RIGHT AND FROMSOFT REFUSES TO LET ME HAVE FUN
RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Who went from hating 9s to loving Nines
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Very hard
Unarmed
No chips
No hacking
Final destination...?
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>>171874175
route a: guess he's okay as a support comrade, but kinda boring
route b: hacking is fun, but quickly becomes a chore
route c: I love you 9S please lose your shit even more

Yeah, he really grew on me. But I don't dislike any of the playable characters.
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>>171874175
I liked his Japanese voice but when he turned into a fag I kinda turned off. Emil cannot be beaten as best shota.
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>>171874175
I went from the other way around only to be redeemed on his ending.
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>>171874175
Anyone that hates 9S needs more shota doujins injected directly into their prostate
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>>171874298
I'm currently doing Hard, unarmed and no chips and it's okay combat is a bit more entertaining now I'm not shredding enemies apart.
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>>171874426
>no adam and eve double teaming nines doujins
One can only hope
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>>171874545
There's very little doujins in general.
Give it time.
The plebs must be satiated first with their boring vanilla shit.
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>>171874175
I went from not caring about 9S to still not caring about 9S
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>>171874175
His fight against 2B army and later descent into a murder incarnate then calming the fuck down in ending D is the single best character development in the game.

I got so used for his combat i had hard time switching to A2.

>takes on flight units on foot and wins when 2B got fucked in flight unit against lesser number of them
>>
A2 (long hair) > 2B

can we agree?
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>>171874175
His voice actor did a pretty good job, the scenes with him would've been completely different had he done a half-assed job or something.
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I think I found another big fuck up in the pc version, when you finish the game with 9S both the choices lead to the same ending with him already being dead on the ground, there is no "So that's where you were" ending.
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>>171874674
I actively dislike 9S. I don't like his combat style, I don't like the hacking minigame, and his psychosis is just annoying. If he just shut the fuck up for a second and listened to A2 instead of REEEEEing he might have learned something valuable.

I guess in ending D he sorta learned his lesson at the very end, but still.
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It begins, the replay of the end of A route so I can play B route and not skip side quests this time.
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Thank you for playing!
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>>171874925
His jap voice when he got stabbed in the end. That shit got me almost as much as Pascals jap voice when he finds the children.
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>>171874745
That's because according to the novels he's a "self learning" lastest model or whatever it means.
The other versions of his models can't even use weapons.
He has the ability to learn and get stronger the more he fights.

It's quite frankly mary sue bullshit but there you have it.
The only reason why he's like that is because every Taro game needs a character that turns into Caim for a while but never manage to capture the stunning, genuine, seducing lust for utter massacre Caim had.
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>>171874925
>Pic related.
She penetrated him though. Multiple times.
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>>171865516
I went and made my own from a Youtube rip. First attempt at background noise reduction

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1lHDNEhXPmq
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Alright guys, I need to know. What's wrong with Drakengard 2?
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>>171875120
9S have a penis at least? I mean adam and eve don't.
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>>171875194
Why am I drunk?
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So what happens if you choose to stay during Ending D?
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>>171875194
It's a sequel of Drakengard 1 most boring ending.
It's a generic JRPG schlock with only two redeeming qualities:

1-Yaha is interesting and what he gave up in his pact is also pretty interesting and unique.

2-Caim turns (if that's even possible) into even more of an ultimate badass.

That's it.
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>yfw
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Was it worth it, /ndg/?
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>Check Square Enix EU store
>Nice, they have Automata's OST!
>25€, then later see they want 30€ for the shipping
>Check Amazon jp
>Got for 60€ OST+Artbook
Man, fuck Square Enix, truly a shitty enemy worth destroying multiple times in Ending E
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>>171875415
Yes. Make another one.... pls?
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>>171875406
Spoopy.
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>>171875383
9S gets a very short new cinematic with like 2-3 lines of dialogue.
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>>171875028
It's not really a mary sue material because he's objectively wrong and portrayed in worst light during the endings where he loses his mind completely. The only thing he has for him is his intellect, development speed and boner for 2B and murder.
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>>171875415
It was like memories of pure light.
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>>171875393
>Not mentioning Legna.
Legna is pretty cool too.
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>>171875242
Why does he even need it when he can hack into 2B directly and make them feel good?
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>>171871453
this man has it
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i'm scared... i dont want /ndg/... to die
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What will NieR 3 be treated for? Post theories
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We're not so different, you and I. However, shit game!

>>171875842
>>171875842
>>171875842
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>>171875827
If you want it to live you must delete your save
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Am I the only one who wants to go on a machine genocide [i]after[/i] ending D?
Like I think I went through the opposite emotional path the game wanted me to take where I started with LETS JUST BE FRIENDS in A and B and ended with KILL EM ALL with C and D
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>>171872592
>DON'T CHANGE THE MUSIC.
>DON'T CHANGE THE STORY.
>DON'T CHANGE THE CHARACTERS.
Yeah, no. There are people on forums right now discussing how much they want a Drakengard remaster, but with "the gameplay and music fixed". Absolute heresy.

>PUT BACK IN SHIT THAT WAS CENSORED.
Still have never found any source for this. All I know is that the Caim/Furiae scene implies incest, whereas the English translation just makes it sounds like shes desperate for a hug (although the "Please....hold me, my brother" even made younger me raise an eyebrow). Concerning Leonard, I don't know if anything about his sexuality is explicitly stated in the Japanese version.
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>>171873920
What's westernized dick?
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>>171877089
cut
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>>171875625
Hanch was also a miracle of the universe
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