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Big Boy Barnes Edition

>Deck lists, news etc
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://heartharena.com/
https://hsdecktracker.net/

>Open Tournaments
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>/hsg/ general & tournament discord
https://discord.gg/NVBCXr2

>Optimal pack buying / crafting strategy
Save up all gold 120 days before each expansion (6100g). This means saving for the next set starting the 18th of April. You can craft remaining top legendaries without the chance of pulling them from packs.

>Simulate your 50 pack pre-order
https://speedodevo.github.io/packr/
http://pitytracker.com/

>Don't forget to vote:
http://www.strawpoll.me/12577749

>/hsg/ Poll
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe__c154SgKNS51hFYq33EAspQcGiUxPOq5QBM-R6QmHfNP5w/viewform?usp=sf_link

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>>171732446
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First for /hsg/ is always wrong
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>>171771959
Reminder that if you cant complete a quest by turn 3 then it is useless because pirate warriors will have already beaten you
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>>171771959
those fucking hands man
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Since reno is rotating out, I want good old handlock to come back. Got any lists that people are playing now? Obviously there needs to be some real good heals for it to be at all viable.
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>>171772064
but you're on /hsg/, so wouldn't that make your statement wrong?
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>hearthstone now allows the defending player to choose how the attackers trade

does the game improve?
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>>171772141
klandri had a cool list in the EU tournament
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>>171772212
>try to attack
>get roped because your opponent is afk
fun :)
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>>171772187
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Quest: Play 5 beasts
Reward: Beasts in your hand and deck cost (2) less.

Hunter or Druid?
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>>171772272
BATTLE
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Hey guys, just wanted to promote the Great Big /hsg/ Poll again.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe__c154SgKNS51hFYq33EAspQcGiUxPOq5QBM-R6QmHfNP5w/viewform?usp=sf_link

We've been doing this for like a year now and had 250 responses last time, so please take some time out of your day and give me your hearthstone secrets.

This is a pretty long form, so strap in.
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>>171772212
No. The only thing the game has going for it is that you can actually play it relatively quickly.

I wouldn't mind some sort of mechanic that allowed this to happen without any interruption though. Maybe something board positioning related.
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Ready for the Rogue quest
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>>171772337
>beasts lose the arbitrary cost attached to their tag
That's a pretty exciting reward. Definitely druid since they're the beast class.
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>>171772337
Druid, except I don't think that will be the reward.

All of the rewards have been 5 mana valuemachines, and
>beasts costs (2) less
Is too tempo-y and not good value
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>>171772363
>that first question
Yeah no wonder so few people did it
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Mage quest:
Random 10 Randoms
Reward:
Random a Random Random Randomly
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>>171772468
>Brann
>Brann
>Brann
no Brann
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>>171772215
Where would I find that?
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>>171772468

>T1 quest
>T2 swashburglar + whatever + shadowstep swashburglar
>Swashburglar gadgetzan ferryman swashburglar
>If you have shadowstep or another bounce you complete the quest right there and then, otherwise you complete it as soon as you draw your 2nd swashy

New rogue quest is lowkey insane.
You're gonna have the tools to generate fucktons of value while every single cheap card you leave on the board is a 5/5
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>reminder that disenchanting adventure card is the most retarded shit and you deserve it for being such a fucking retard
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>>171772594
>so few
>250
wut
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With this list, which is 100% suboptimal, I tried to get quest condition. In 5 games it was fullfilled on t7, t6, t7, t5, t3. In every attempt I didn't mulligan or play first card pretending it is quest. Also wasn't really losing on board because of clever tricks(preparation).
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>>171772762
THE REWARD COSTS 5 MANA
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>>171772594
Why? It's not like there's more than 1 option.
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>>171772850
Prep
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>>171772650
You forgot (randoms chosen randomly)
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>>171772762
I don't think it's insane but it make decks with this card less of a meme
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>>171772896
>TGT higher than MSoG and ONiK
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Might he see play with the new rogue quest?
I'm imagining some sort of token rogue.

It'll be shit of course [\spoiler]
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>>171772792
i'm sick of yellow aggro control
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>>171773114
He is only good after you get reward out, why bother with him if you can just play cheap charge creatures and draw?
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>>171773114

>Fill deck with cheap minions, card generators and token generators
>Top it out with prep sprint for ultra fast hand reloading, its not even a slow turn because all your minions are so cheap
>Using thistle tea, mimic pod, shadowcaster etc. To further stretch your deck out

>Shadowcaster is a 5 mana 5/5, Battlecry: Add a 1 mana 5/5 copy of targrt minion to your hand
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>>171773114
Itll be shit because Moroes costs 3 mana, how are you supposed to play that when pirate decks already have you beat by then?
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>>171773114
Moroes in that deck is a meme idea. Rather have deathrattles or card draws or just lower cost stuff.
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>>171773581
I'm thinking the deck will be battlecry because of bounce synergy
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>>171772896
Wew lad mine is exactly the same

>>171772363
thank god this question caps there
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>>171773628
it will be aggroshit that replays their swashbucklers and charge minions
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>>171773628
Novice engineer meta
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>>171773101
9/11, the Holocaust, and ebola are higher than MSoG and ONiK
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>>171773680
literally
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This card is a perfect hunter legendary.
Why can't Blizzard just copy it?
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Is the April 6 release date real or is it mid april?
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>>171772767
It doesn't sinergiez with the rogue quest. It's play, nut summon you dumass bitch
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>>171773668
What the fuck.

Okay so when I did this the first time I capped the question at 100$+ and it got like 80% of votes.

Then I did it the second time and capped the question at 150$+ and it STILL got a shitload of votes.
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I really like that rogue pod card Tbh
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>>171773764
That shit busted, holy hell.
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>>171773891
Change the brackets significantly retard.

<50
<100
<150
<200
<400
<1000
<2500
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>>171773891
I am almost at $400 desu
please send help
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>>171773889
It synergizes with the rogue quest reward dipshit. 3 mana 5/5 that summons a 5/5 at the end of your turn is actually decent.
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>>171773889

Its synergy with the reward

Moroes becomes a 3 mana 5/5 with stealth, summon a 5/5 every turn
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>>171774031
It would win or lose the game, depending on the opponent hand.
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>>171774101
That feels so broad
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>>171774309
is the difference between 110 and 140 really meaningful enough to warrant its own bracket?
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>>171774031
This just means that all of your opponents cards are free next turn, so you pretty much die most of the time
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well, like i said, i woke up and saw a shitty brawl, and more shitty cards
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>>171771959

Who else /skilledatHearthstone/ here?

Criteria:

>Legend cardback (don't wanna hear any pathetic shit about legend being exactly the same as rank 5, just takes longer)
>12 win Arena key
>Easy rank 5 or lower every season
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>>171774419
Fair point
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>>171774523
check
check and
check

should add the criterion to have placed at least top 4 in a tournament desu
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Reminder that your IQ decreases by one point for each post you make in /hsg/ and 2 points for each post you read.
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>>171774628
>puts desu at the end of a sentence
I may not be a Legend player or a rank 5 grinder, but damn, at least I'm not retarded.
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>>171774523
any retard can do those things really
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>>171774796

Have you done them? Less than 1% of active players will have such a resume.
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>>171774523
Who /netdeck/ here?

Criteria:

>Legend cardback (don't wanna hear any pathetic shit about legend being exactly the same as rank 5, just takes longer)
>Easy rank 5 or lower every season
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>>171774774
Good thing I don't need IQ to be good at hearthstone
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>>171774628
This
t. Reaver
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>>171774880
yes
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>>171774887

You see netdecks from rank 18 to rank legend you retarded faggot. Go netdeck something "op" like renolock right now and pilot it to legend. You won't be able to.

Most people can't even play aggro to rank 5; most accounts never touch rank 5.
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>>171774523
i dont even play enough games to get to rank 5 anymore. just make shitty decks to get through quests fast and go on to play actual good games
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>>171774880
Holy shit people are bad at this game.
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>Rogue quest

Heres the deal, its unplayable with current set. Either Team5 has printed cards that put shadowstep into shame or the card will see no play. Its simple as that
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>>171774784
it's because of gookmoot's niggerspeak wordfilters desu senpai
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>>171775085
no one is bad at this game. it's the easiest game in the world. the only thing hindering most people is that they barely care about this game
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>>171774523
>>Easy rank 5 or lower every season
why lower to not legend every season just to fit yourself in the bracket, very dissonant of you considering your previous statement
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>>171775198
>I've never got legend because I don't care about it

Then why are you posting here?
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so regarding the rogue quest:
>skip turn 1 playing the quest
>turns 234 play cheap minions, if they get killed before 4 exact clones, restart quest progress
>skip turn 5 activating quest
>turn 6, play a 5/5

in what universe is this efficient?
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>>171775198

Totally untrue. There's absolutely decision making in HS and you see that in the people who consistently get to rank 100-1 legend and cruise with 65-70% winrates.

You're actually retarded, lol. If you find yourself unable to detect when someone is making bad plays (which means they're bad at the game) that means you're absolutely terrible, LOL.
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>>171775281
elementary school argument.
kill yourself
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>>171774784
>being unironically THIS fucking new
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Wait there is people that havent gotten to leyend at least once?
On 2014+3? Year of our lord
Lmaoing at you tbqh
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>>171775382
>Revealing what I said being true so hard
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>>171774523
>>171774628
>>171774796
So how do you get gud at this game?
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>>171775223

Getting legend every season is a massive time investment unless you're a seriously top tier player who can go through ranks 5-legend with a 65% winrate. I said "skilled" at Hearthstone, not professional.

Unless you make your living streaming/playing Hearthstone I think you'd be clinically retarded to actively go for legend every single season unless you were so good you could do it in relatively few games.

But you're right, someone who can get that winrate through the gold ranks is a seriously good player, and much better than me. I can admit that because I recognize that there's significant skill impact in HS and don't rage about "netdeckers" and "being unlucky" (statistically it is IMPOSSIBLE to have worse luck, on average, than anyone else in the world).
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>>171775463
don't want to grind a meta deck, everybody who did it told me it's an awful experience and not worth it
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>>171775293
The fabled control meta.

In all honesty though, Rogue can make up for skipping turn 1 tempo, and shadowstep swashburglar with Patches and such could work.
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>>171775556
use the same decks everyone else does and mulligan for early game
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>>171774628
should at least not have been hopelessly retarded, and a waste of life.... "desu"
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>>171775619
Already do that and it gets me stuck at rank 10 so far.
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>>171775619

This'll get you to about rank 16 or so.
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>>171775563
the first time i got legend was worth it.
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>>171772363
wew did it
Just by curiosity around how many people have filled it?
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>>171775574
In order to play swashburglar 4 times, you'll need to draw both of them and have both shadowsteps
that's 4 specific cards to have in the early hand
that's very unlikely to get it
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>>171775684
alright bud let's hear about how much skill this game takes
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>>171774628
a bit fag desu
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>>171775398
I know, he tried to say t b h or some shit. It still makes him a retard if he talks like that, even on a Vietnamese canvas board.
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>>171775556
the same way you git gud at anything in life. learn as much as you can about it and practice.
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>>171775561
so you admit you're not skilled? top 10 every season is professional level, not just about getting legend
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>>171775860
disclaimer: getting "gud" at hearthstone is probably one of the worst ways to spend your time
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>>171775681

Okay well to actually answer your question.

Being relatively good at a card game means a bit of understanding of the overall matchups and decks relevant in any given meta. You should know from the muligan phase what you're (probably) playing against, and how likely you are to win the game. If you're playing control vs control then you need to be in value mode; if you're playing control vs aggro you need to be in "how do I best stay alive until I stabilize mode".

At any given moment in the game your path to victory can drastically alter. You need to often make plays that are technically inferior to others, but which offer the greatest path to victory. If you're playing pirate warrior and you can make a decent value trade with your last card leading you to a 0% win situation, or you can throw the last card at face and go for a 5% topdeck lethal situation you need to choose the latter route.

Anyway I would pick a deck you like playing that's either T1 or T2 and watch top players who also play the same deck. When I wanted to improve I would sometimes pause during crucial moments and decide what route I would take, and then see how frequently it lined up with the pro/streamer.
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>>171775556
play good decks, and not just popular bad decks (like jade druid is popular but very mediocre) and play a lot
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>turn 3 Barns brings out Cairne
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>>171774523
Got legend cardback
Got 11 wins a few times. Not buying packs this expansion and instead focusing on arena so hoping for 12 wins soon.
Rank 5 only for the free epic. Don't bother trying anymore.
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>>171775742
GB/hsg/P 1 - 115 People
GB/hsg/P 2 - 249 People
GB/hsg/P 3 - 22 People
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>>171776085
just potion of madness it
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>>171775913

Are you unable to read or something? I've got legend twice and I'm absolutely confident that I could get legend in any given season if I chose to make a significant time investment. I'm not willing to make such an investment for literally no reward whatsoever so I tend to play until the rank 5 chest and call it there.

Top 10 every season is professional
Legend is skilled

But you don't need to hit legend every single time to maintain your "skill", that's ridiculous; however, if you're consistently unable to make rank 5 while playing quite a bit, that says something about your overall game plan and decision making imo.
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>>171775556
Heres the thing, Hearthstone doesnt require ANY skill.

You can bot Shaman to legend if you wish, thats how you gitgud. You play a good deck and have a ton of time to climb
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Anyone want to let me watch them win a game for a pack?
Add me please, Hawkeye#1743
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>>171774975
>seriously thinking hearthstone is hard to play
Wow.
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>>171776297
>/hsg/
>winning
you're looking in the wrong place
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Okay I did the big bad poll. Where can I see the results?
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>>171776016
>If you're playing pirate warrior and you can make a decent value trade with your last card leading you to a 0% win situation, or you can throw the last card at face and go for a 5% topdeck lethal situation you need to choose the latter route.
This is a great example since I've played Pirate Warrior extensively, thanks.

>Anyway I would pick a deck you like playing that's either T1 or T2 and watch top players who also play the same deck.
Very much appreciate specific advice like that.
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>it's a one and done brawl paying agaist an AI episode
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>>171776230
>>171776309

It requires skill, and it's hard to play well.

None of you idiots have ever hit legend with a 70% win rate; none of you have ever gotten top 10 legend; none of you have ever placed well in a tournament, and none of you ever will.

Neither have I. Cause it's really hard. But hey why don't you guys go win the next blizzcon and a big poker world event while you're at it; card games require no skill!
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When is the rotation/hall of fame move?
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>>171776297
na or eu
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>>171772767
why would I want moroes or malchezaar
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>>171776297
added on antarctica server
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>>171776492
>hit legend
>top 10 legend
These are different things brah.
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>>171776492
investing this much time in hearthstone is one of the most useless things you can do as well as unpleasant
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>>171776531
>>171776297
Sorry, NA.
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>>171776527
Mid April, around 15th or 17th, something like that.
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how can you guys have literally no friends
jesus
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>>171776437

Right, people think aggro is just incredibly easy to play, and in some situations it's true as you'll draw your only conceivable plays in a very obvious manner. In other situations it's difficult to tell when you should be value trading to keep stuff on the board or yoloing face entirely and hoping to draw into enough damage to finish it.

Watch top players do pirate warrior; I'm not a very good face/pure aggro player (I trade too much), and I'm often surprised/caught off guard by the plays.

It's a good mental exercise to ask on each turn "what do I lose to the hardest, and should I play around it", or "from this position, what can I possibly draw to win?".
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>>171776663
Why would I want to be friends with people who play Hearthstone?
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>>171776663
>add people after they pull of some rng bullshit that wins them the game
>get free gold everytime they want to do the challenge a friend quest

Sidenote; I really hate that there isn't some kind of in match chat. Fuck blizzard.
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>>171776708
>bnet only has hearthstone
not that blizzard games are good anymore. i know the feeling. but anyone who doesnt have bnet friends must be brand new to blizzard games. feel kinda bad for you guys, they used to be good
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>>171776404
I actually really appreciate that thank you.
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>>171776663
Why should anyone?
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>>171776906
so you can get gold from the quests................?
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>>171776227
>Legend is skilled
No it isn't getting top ranks and winning tournaments is skilled legend is full of shitters
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>>171776591

I totally agree, and I would never do it myself. But people in HSG are trying to argue that skill isn't a factor and they're completely and utterly wrong.

I'm not sure why people are so opposed to the notion of skill on 4chan and overall. I play chess competitively and every day I hear people who haven't ever played a tournament match say things like "chess requires no thinking, it's all memorization". I'm always completely flabbergasted that someone can be so dense; it's like people are personally offended by the idea that someone could practice and develop a skill which they themselves lack, so they feel the need to reduce the level of competence required to a degree which they can say "lol it's easy I just don't feel like doing it".

Trust me, even the most banal competitive arena has tryhards and if you ever want to be truly good at something, even something as admittedly stupid as Hearthstone, be prepared to work harder than all of them (so about 10 hours a day for your entire life).

Or, hey, you can just fallback on your own reluctance to acknowledge people's abilities and talent. Check out the Wikipedia article on the Dunning Kruger effect while you're at it.
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>>171776492
>70% WR

Not even blizzcon attendees attain that high of an winrate

Are you fucking retarded? They all say its a cointoss
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>>171777140
yeah 70% was back when decks like handlock and patron existed and the game took skill
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>>171777140
hes obviously speaking out of his ass, its not even the only thing wrong in that paragraph. if you didnt see whats wrong with that whole shmeal, youre as dumb as he is
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>>171777058

Our definition of skilled varies by degree I guess. Less than 1% of active players touch legend, so in my mind being better than 99% of the active field is enough to qualify you as "skilled".

I agree it's the absolute tip of the iceberg as far as skill/depth of knowledge is concerned, but if you're in the top 1% of something I think you're pretty good.
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>>171776881
>bnet only has hearthstone
I assumed you meant in reference to play a friend or spectate a friend quests.

>not that blizzard games are good anymore
Tell me about it, my bnet friends have all been offline for months. Some for a year and these are people I meet every day, not "internet friends."
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>>171777257
Because 99% of the playerbase barely has enough gold to craft shitty decks and don't spend 200+ $ to get every card
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>>171777207
>>171777226

70% from Rank 5-Legend should be doable by extremely good players.

I see a lot of 65-72% winrate decks/accounts (with proof) posted to the competitive hearthstone subreddit.

I'm not suggesting a 70% winrate at blizzcon, if that's how you read it. I'm referring to a 70% winrate from rank 5 - legend.
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Legend is full of shitters because most people don't tryhard for top 200, once they grind to legend each month they just fuck around and play meme decks. Only high legend is real competitive, in fact I'd wager to say rank 5 to 1 is harder than dumpster Legend.
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honestly nothing more embarrassing than people who think the hearthstone ladder is a serious competitive environment to test your skill at anything
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>>171777391

You need a single T1-T2 deck to hit legend. If you've been playing casually for about a year you should have the dust to craft a top meta deck and have a level playing field with everyone else.
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>>171777484

Rank 4-1 maybe. Rank 5 is full of people fucking about too now.
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>>171777463
What is proof?
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>>171777257
that woud be impressive if ranks represented a bell curve. it doesn't, it looks like a fucking cliff. most accounts are rank 20+ because laddering is a waste of time when you could be playing actual competitive and fun games
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>>171777091
I feel like you have been thinking about this you much. Which is why you completely sperged out.

>>171777754
Youre an idiot. A game like RNGstone doesn't require skill or thought. You get to legend by slaming your head against the wall enough times. The fundemental design of the game is for casuals to play while they are taking a shit and pull what they need off of Discover.
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>>171777952
You need a positive winrate to reach legend.
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>>171777893

Decktracker stats.
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>>171778098
You can't edit those?
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>>171776990
Thank you nice Blizzman. This is nice card.
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>>171778028
*tips patches
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>>171777952

No, you're actually a moron. Hearthstone requires both skill and thought. This is easily demonstrated and objectively proven by the fluctuating winrates and consistency of play achieved by top tier players. You will never have a 70% winrate to legend, yet some can do this consistently. You will never place top 50 10 seasons in a row, yet some do. This is sill, knowledge, understanding, etc.

>You get to legend by slaming your head against the wall enough times.

If you have a 50% win rate you will hit legend if you play 1400 games in a month. Assuming the average game length is about 10 minutes you will need to play for 7.8 hours each and every day (with no breaks or weekends) to hit bottom legend.

Okay so it's doable, but nobody actually does that. In general you need about a 55% winrate to reach legend in a feasible time span and even that takes more than 2 hours of laddering each and every day.
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>>171776990
Pretty sure I've seen this before, but I don't believe it's real. Seems too balanced for a Shaman card.
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Hydrologist is cute
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>>171778509
Why does it have a clown nose?
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>>171773764
>At 1 health
>Could play some minion to gain health
>cant because I die
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>>171778196

You probably can. What's your point here? You think it's impossible to have a 60-70% winrate so everyone who claims to have such (even those who stream their entire run to legend and can prove it that way) MUST be lying.

I mean.. okay.. if that's how you feel better about your own winrate, I guess.

70% winrate is possible, and the vast majority of people sit around 48-52%; this winrate variance is decided ENTIRELY by skill; which, according to you retards, doesn't exist in this game.
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>>171778609
It's called tumblr nose.
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>>171778609
It's a tumblr nose and it's what drawings look like these days.
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>>171778650
>>171778691
Are murlocs even supposed to have noses?
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>>171778626
A 100% winrate is possible, just not very likely. At rank <5 you aren't playing against drooling noobs. The lower you go, you are playing strictly against people with positive winrates themselves.
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>>171778691
>>171778650
>tumblr nose
Discolored noses existed since before Tumblr. I know it's a meme, but come on.

It's an artistic choice to make it "cuter"
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>>171778826
No but the team5 art department redesigned them to better appeal to tumblr
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>>171778826
They do have noses.
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>>171778472

And by the way:

a 49% winrate means 11.7 hours of nonstop ladder grinding each day for the entire season.

a 48% winrate means 21 hours of nonstop ladder grinding each day for the entire season.

a 47% winrate means 47 hours of nonstop ladder grinding each day for the entire season.
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Skill isn't really that big of an impact because of the powerlevel between cards, the difference of playing a flame juggler on 2 vs a totem golem is huge, a decision where no skill is involved
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>>171778826
Hydrologist is obviously a halfbreed, probably from Elise fucking some murloc
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dude fuck renounce

lmao three cenarius on curve so WACKY and RANDUMB XDDDD WHAT COULD I GET XDDD
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>>171778847

Yes... hence skill in Hearthstone.

And a 100% winrate is not possible consistently because of RNG variance and matchup spread. 70% winrate is on the upper end of what can be achieved consistently by professional players at these ranks.
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>>171778990
>I am mad that I lost to a deck who lose 25% of the time

I bet you also hate Evolve Shaman?
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>>171778921
Looks like a nostril not a nose
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>>171778990
>Playing renouncezoolock in tournament
>Replaces my hand with circle of healings

Can't make this shit up
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>>171778626
The difference between 60% and 70% is pretty significant.

Lifecoach touched on this. Back before all the hard decks got removed from the game top players got 70% consistently at high legend. Now it's like 62%. The game still takes some skill but the difference between Lifecoach and a dumpster legend ranker(such as myself) is getting smaller and smaller because Blizzard is removing everything that doesn't play on curve from the game
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>>171778990
Why are you so mad? They probably lose games 80% of the time playing a Renounce deck and you get mad the one time someone actually wins with it.
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>>171777091
the people who want me to acknowledge their skill and put down my own skill are retards who grind shaman to legend every season and think this means they're top-tier or w/e but couldn't build a competent deck to save their life because they don't understand the game. they're the shitters in this thread who thought counterfeit coin was a bad card when it was revealed
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>>171779134
Pretty much the same thing.
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>>171774523
>>171774887
>tfw have 12 arena key (and don't even play much arena at all) but no legend or consistent rank 5 because I'm not a netdecker and I don't play enough of this shitty game to get that far
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>>171779120
it is quite fun to lose to a deck that is the equivalent of throwing your cards to the wind and praying some of them land up
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>>171777091
>I hear people who haven't ever played a tournament match say things like "chess requires no thinking, it's all memorization
chess is a solved game don't be mad that people point that out
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>>171779354
Better than playing against a deck with a 55% winrate again and again. I like random.
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>decide to try Jade rogue
>three games in a row
>both raptors in hand before turn 3
>no jade swarmer until I've drawn two thirds of my deck

so much fun
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>>171779354
I bet your definition of fun includes someone just conceding at the start of the game.
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>>171779170
I found the time in the vod because I'm bored
http://www.twitch
.tv/axolotlhooves/v/130304013?sr=a&t=1919s
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>>171779494
my definition of fun includes both players playing decks they know how to pilot

not one just going "LMAO DUDE WHY ARE YOU TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY ITS JUST RANDOM LOL"

do bright lights fascinate you
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>is called bluegill warrior
>gills are yellow
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>>171779750
no they aren't
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>>171779750
so you dont know what gills are
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what the fuck is this brawl
what the fuck do i play
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>>171779750
they're white if anything retard
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>>171779750
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>>171779806
>>171779859
murlocs have exterior gills like axolotls, the blue spots are just spots
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>>171779947
astral druid
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>>171779638
I can see why someone would be unhappy with how much of a coinflip the game is, but you made it sound like you're more mad at losing rather than the fact it was random.

Honestly the card shouldn't exist, but it does. Some people enjoy playing it despite the fact that it backfires most of the time so when it does work you should just laugh it off and instead you get mad like it's somehow unfair that they don't lose 100% of the time.
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>>171779947
literally anyting, just hit it till it gets to 30. Shit brawl
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who kripp here?
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>>171778509
agreed
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>>171780318
That warlock card isn't real, right?
also
>watching Kripp
kys
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Woah. They updated the board. What's this party thing anyhow? The Brawl is all about a party, but how is Un'Goro?
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>>171779430

Okay. Go win the world championship then.

You're quite literally clueless.
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>>171779947
did this first try with anyfin n'zoth pally
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>>171780570
No, its a video on fan-made cards
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>>171780620
Stop putting words in my mouth autist
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>delayed gratification
fuck this
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>>171773114
>>171772767

i hope you guys brought lube for the violet teacher miracle turns making a board of 5/5's on turn 4 or 5
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>>171780983
It's simply impossible for that to happen by turn 5, it's more like 6 or 7, if lucky, and while having a ridiculously shitty early game
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Post cards you are excited for.
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>>171780856
>gratification
They're saving you from disappointment.
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>>171780983
>i'm going to draw all my cards to do the quest by turn 4
Holy shit why not just play normal rogue and cheese with edwin, it'll require less cards.
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>>171778472
>>171778626
What is this 70% retardation? you simply play the best deck and beat up morons. Naturally the guy playing everyday will beat the guy who plays twice a week. It doesn't mean the game itself requires skill unless youre being autistically padantic. To make it clear HS has a very low skill celliling, just most people who play don't bother reaching it
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>>171781184
That card is going to be such a disappointment besides the flair
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First try with Jade Druid if anyone cares.
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>>171781184
It's more fun flavor, but no better than Malchezzar.
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>>171781184
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>>171781184
Literally infinity free dust

Who /day1craft/ here?
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>>171781102
anon, we live in a world with counterfeit coin and mimic pod. They absolutely are going to be able to do that. CLEVER TRICKS
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>>171781461
retarded comparison

malchezaar ruins your deck starting turn 1, this shuffles 1 extremely good card in your deck
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>>171781461
>>171781369
She is so much better than Malch it's ridiculous.

She's going to be at the very least playable. Most likely good.
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>>171781481
you're a dummy
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>>171781369
I dunno 5 mana 5/5 isn't bad and the pack has skewed rates for higher rarities

Sure there'll be disappointment whenever you don't actually draw the pack but if you do get to cast it it should be a sweet payoff every time
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>more un'goro packs from brawl
why do I even bother with this game
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more maintenance ?
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>>171781184
>LoE was our only good set and we're afraid of truly rotating it out
I am too, Blizzard. I am too.
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Show the stuff you've unpacked during the past 3 months
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This bawl is fun, it almost redeems the abomination of last week.
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>turn 1 quest, wisp, wisp, shadowstep, shadowsted, wisp, wisp
>turn 2 prep, crystal core
>turn 3 coin, prep, sprint
>turn 4 boar, boar, deckhand into patches

hysteria get working
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>>171780841

It's solved. Go use your knowledge of the solution to win the world championship. Magnus Carlsen, current world champion, is worth millions. Go beat him.
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>>171780739
Going well.

Also already pre-ordered the Dark Brotherhood adventure coming in two weeks.
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>>171781603
>>171781605
Well, yeah it doesn't do exactly the same thing as Malch, but the point was that we're not even in a meta where you can run Elise or most Ungoro cards. Things will have to actually change for this to be playable. I hope it is, because it looks really interesting and fun, and potentially good.

Gadgetzan was a mistake.
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Does anyone have a rough estimate of how much time you have to not login to get the classic pack quests?

I haven't logged in since the 2nd week of Gadgetzan.
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>>171781625
you're a cutie
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>>171782202
3 months I think
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This brawl feels familiar
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>>171781472
>half a thistle tea
WOW!
its actually playable since 6 mana draw shit is too slow
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>>171781346

You're wrong. I've already made all the arguments I can. I'm genuinely sorry that you're this stupid. I feel bad for you.
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this brawl is GOAT for dailies
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Guy who sent Kripparian an email asking him to make a video about auto-squelch and giving him 1000 dollas if he does here.

He just replied to my email. Posting before I read it!
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>>171782361
it's 2/3 a thistle tea
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>>171778847
100% win rate is as possible as me fucking Jennifer Lawrence in my lifetime. Over how many games are we talking? Do you honestly believe that you are never going to have a shit opener against someone who curves out? 100% win rate much past 10'ish games is essentially impossible.
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>>171782287
Man, that's like exactly as long. I'm afraid of missing it by a day.

I mostly just need to log back in when the Sylvanas/Rag dust comes in.
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>it's another Un'goro pack
Fuck blizzshit.
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>>171782491
inb4 no
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>>171779750
I didn't know it was this buff.

Hot thighs.
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>>171782609
is this bait?
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>>171782550
It is possible to win the lottery.
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can someone help me modernize this deck? haven't played in awhile so i'm getting wrecked by much faster decks.

I want to keep the divine spirit + inner fire type of theme i have
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>>171782609
classic packs are becoming pretty worthless
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>>171781996
they literally added timers to add pressure to turns because it is a solved game
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>>171782361
>prep pod
>draw double coins/evis/coldbloods/etc
it functions like a better fan of knives as far as miracle is usually concerned.
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>>171782491
Screencap it and post it here
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>>171782702
-everything but SW:Pain
+28 new cards
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>>171782704
they are worth more than a pack you cant even open
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>>171782659
I don't want to wait 1 fucking month to open something I played for today. It's fucking retarded.

>>171782704
Obviously they don't want people to open Hall of Fame cards. Classic cards are always relevant.
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>>171782809
Shadow word death and northshire cleric are also good cards.
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>>171782823
no they aren't
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>>171782369
>being THIS mad that his favorite children's card game is shit

kek your "argument" is shit btw when 90% of the playerbase plays once or twice a week
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>>171782491
>>171782624
>>171782787
Based Kripp
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>>171782809
>>171782889
and powerword shield.
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>>171782752

>being this retarded

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're joking.
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>>171783049

I've just spent it all on golden shredders
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>>171783073
I'll quit hearthstone if this is real.
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>>171772337

Your card might be good but it's pretty boring. How about (summon) like more beasts and get a huger cost down?
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>>171783027

I'm not mad, and I don't play hearthstone much. If you think there's no skill at all to consistently reaching top 50 legend then you're an idiot. Plain and simple.
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>>171783073
will you actually pay him?
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>>171782992
>play a brawl that rewards a classic pack right away
>open cards you can use right now
>or dust and craft cards right now

>play a brawl that rewards an inexisting card pack
>can only play/dust the card 1 month from now
>you don't even know if you'll still be playing by then
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>it's another "no packs this week" brawl
The third week in a row. F2p btfo
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>>171782704
As much as I like them tinkering with the Classic set, just straight up removing without adding shit isn't going to help them very much in the long run.

They're using the set as a crutch to hold the game together since their content releases are so infrequent, small, and shoddy. If they keep removing items, it's going to not fill that role anymore.
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>>171783197
It was a joke desu
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>>171783239
it's better in the long run you attention deficit cunt
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>>171783094
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're an event organizer and are forced to hype it up and dramatize it
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>>171783278
from 2019 going forward there will always be at least 4 full expansions in standard at any given time which should be plenty
it's about as much as there is now
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>>171783318
>what is inflatiom
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>>171783217
Of course I would, but for what I get from his reply, he doesn't want the money and may do it only if he wants to someday in the future
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Why is every fucking faggot running a jade deck?
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>>171783483
brainlessly op
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>>1717833181
>better in the long run
No it's not you retard, it's a mobile game.
You can't reward your players with something that's still a month away.
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>>171783198
>I don't play HS
>ferociously defends HS
Eh don't be disingenuous. Also again it's more a factor of time and deck, not skill. Your being padantic again
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>>171783483
curve decks are popular with the norms
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>>171783483

Because they were too poor to run control warrior
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>>171783483
because it's easy, powerful, and all the jade cards are cheap except aya
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>>171783481
do you have $1000 to just throw around for no reason?
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>brawl is raid on stormwind, only with party-related name changes

That's fucking bad.
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>>171783562
There are also winrates. Most of all skill in hearthstone is based on knowledge of the game mechanics and the current meta.
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>>171783704
>poorfags pretending they could use the 1000 bucks for something better
Kek'd
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>>171783710
Thats only 1/4th of monthly median wage
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>Brawl just ends once you go over 100 damage
boooring
do they expect me to play Cho+inner fire memes to get higher?
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>>171783559
maybe you'll feel differently when the day comes and you open a pack with cards you don't have instead of 40 dust shit

if not you can continue being retarded and complain about nothing
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>>171783562

>getting top 50 legend consistently is time and deck, not skill

Fuck man, I dunno what to tell you. You're just wrong.
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>>171783704
I do, I own a company
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>>171783073
he will never do it, because blizzard took a hard stance on emotes from the start, even making sure most streamers dont complain too much about them

reynad is the only vocal person about emotes, and even then when he is shilling for them he will say

>they dont want it because it makes it feel like you are just playing against a AI when they arent interacting
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>>171783835
hire me plox
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God this brawl is retarded. Just another rehash.
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>>171783769
This, they'd probably blow it all on an iphone
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guess who it is?
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>hammer of twilight netdeckers
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>>171783073
Based fucking Kripp
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>>171783387
It's a little more complex than that. As much as I'm not going to shower the Classic set with only praise the only set deserving is LoE, it was fundamentally balanced to a certain extent. Major flaws, but it's a decent set of bones to build on.

You start messing with that, and all of your sets have to stand on their own merit, and "mess" is the proper term. Karazan and Gadgetzan are both especially shit. I'm hoping they prove me wrong, but things just aren't looking good at all.
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>>171783932
VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENTS
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>>171783931
what's with all the hate? Did a poorfag cuck you?
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>>171783714
lol what? between the 1-4 decks you need to know which are usually netdecked?

>>171783804
>another nonargument
Listen idc if you want to run on the hampater wheels every month. It means nothing
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>>171783932
welcome to the gran- ResidentSleeper
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>>171783932
>french HS
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>>171784176
my past self, yes
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>>171783932
The dog with a chilling maw
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>>171783795
Are you retarded, you have no arguments.
I'm telling you it's a mobile game and if you reward something that's soon(tm) it feels shitty for the casual player and it may as well not be rewarded. It doesn't work.
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>>171776207
will you share your data with us some day?
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>>171783932
its gormok
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>>171784178
The more familiar you are with the decks played, their variations, how they are played and how to play against them, the better you are.
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>>171784178

>another nonargument

I've made like a dozen posts in this thread explaining that there's clear skill variance and it's provable through consistency of results. At this point the onus is on you to prove that you can get the same results, regardless of skill, with time and "deck" (lol).

You could go into a thread about any competitive game and repeat ad nauseum "this takes no skill" and nobody would take you seriously. I'm not sure why I'm taking you seriously. You post like someone extremely, fat, stupid, and unappealing; and you seem to know nothing about anything at all.
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>>171784312
>muh feelings
not an argument
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friendly reminder that replacing the brawl packs with ungoro is what blizzard meant with giving out expansion cards
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>>171784398
reddit please leave
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>>171784412
Okay now I know you're a retard.
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>>171784465
me too thanks
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>>171784507
just stop replying and wait patiently for your pack nigger
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>>171784585
Nice argument faggot.
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>>171783892
Is it just me or is this AI cheating?
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>opponent breaks my eradar lord of the burning legion weapon, renos and plays a golden monkey for some reason
>BM greets me when Im roping thinking through my plays
>he dies to my waves of INFERNOS! and me clearing his board every turn
Why be cocky when you haven't even won?
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>>171784784
I thought the same.
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>>171778857
>It's an artistic choice to make it "cuter"

it may have started that way but most artists on tumblr copy off other shit they see on tumblr without understanding why it works for one person's style... then someone else copies them, someone copies that person and before you know it every bit of art has the neon rudolph nose even when it 100% clashes with the rest of the character design
>>
Maybe he wasn't cocky, just tired of seeing you rope every turn.
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>>171784910

I always squelch after the first emote
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How good is my arena deck, and how lucky did i get?
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>>171785272
This.
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>>171785272
I try to auto squelch everyone but I have a terrible memory
This game needs an auto squelch feature
>>
Did anyone try going infinite with Jade Druid in the brawl?
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its p funny how swashbuckler ended up being busted as shit
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>>171785373
3 of those 10 cards are atrocious and should never be picked.

murloc tinyfin, arcane missiles and dirty rat.
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Pls make gang up standard you fucks

It's like they're mad everyone called the riverboat man that put stuff back in your hand with combos bad
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>>171785491
>blizzard prints one drop
>ends up being op
sounds about right
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>>171785373
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>Brawl AI concedes at 100 damage
And as always, NO FUN ALLOWED
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>>171785676

Seriously, wtf is with that. I made an inner fire/divine spirit cheese deck with like, Ysera and mind controls and i was able to do like 70 damage a turn... once.
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>>171784784
it's probably just you
>mfw the AI converts my rag and then it snipes my sylvanas out of 5 minions which steals rag back
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>>171785579
Forcing archetypes is the only thing Ben Cuck knows to do with cards.
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>>171784976
Stop blaming Tumblr. 4chan artists do the same thing by copying the style of other people for comics.
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>>171784091
>>171784187
>>171784229
>>171784264
>>171784316
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>>171785870
that comic is ancient.
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>>171786031
It is.
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>>171785373
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>>171785602
>living roots that substitute themselves for a much higher value card with potential for broken combos on rogue as well

god tier blizzard balance
oh and one of the two trees has charge
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>>171785373
>>171785609
>>171786084
>tabletfags
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This new murloc pally shit is fucking busted in wild. Finja too stronk when he pulls out his nigga Murk Eye
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>>171786279
>actually have to craft murk eye now
feels bad man

I didn't want to waste dust crafting two epic murlocs back when they were just a meme
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>>171786084
Okay you have a pretty good get considering you got both reno and kazakus. If you play right and get lucky you can go 12 wins no problem.
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>>171785579
that's fake, right?
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>>171785870
>>171778857

do your feelings alway get so hurt whenever someone talks shit about tumblr? it's one of the largest sites that artists use where the red-nose shit runs rampant. you don't see that crap on artstation or CA as much as tumblrland. you can't get mad and deny that the retarded clown nose design isn't significantly more visible and more frequent on tumblr than 4chan of all places. no need to get your panties in a knot just because your favorite blogsite is the home of stupid art
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>>171786457
Its real

Rogue is the new meme class for xddd moments, not for serious play.
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>>171785579
Wait a second. Will that work with pyros?
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>>171786457
No. And Crystal Core is a 5 mana spell that makes all of your minions 5/5
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>>171786558
that's the dumbest fucking quest i've seen

most unlikely to pull off in a normal game too
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>>171780028
My exterior gills are plaid
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>>171784315
Okay, pick a time.
Pre-Wog or Post-Wog
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>>171786692
it's easily done with boatfish/pandas and a 1 mana minion, could use some coins to do it early too
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>>171786801
both
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>>171786508
What the hell you talk about? I'm not bad, I'm annoyed of the Tumblr boogeyman. Tumblr is a website with as much shit as 4chan. I've been on 4chan 10 years. Do you know how many fads went on in 10 years? A ton.

I'm just tired of "Reddit!!!" "Tumblr!!!"
You know what happened 14 years ago? People from 4chan were stealing all the content from Somethingawful and Ebaums.
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>>171786692
Its actually the only quest they revealed so far that you can complete on turn two, and prep out the reward next turn with a 1 mana 5/5 to boot. Sure that's the dream scenario, but its very doable
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>>171786580
>Rogue quest
>Pyros

I guess burgle is a thing. Knowing team 5s track record, I'm sure there will be no consistency with activating this quest.
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>>171786880
Fuck outta here you disgusting neckbeard.
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>>171786692
Well yeah, its shit. Either you kill off your hand for gimmicky play or dont fulfill it.

Only real way to complete it without destroying your deck is patches/gangup into patches and vanish. Thats still ten mana but viable if control rogue was a thing, which it wont be.

>>171786918
>>171786829
Enjoy losing the game with an empty hand
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>>171787015
>swashburgle 4 cards
>empty hand
enjoy being retarded
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>>171786976
Just bounce your swashburglar.
But yes, you do it turn 2 or in fatigue
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I like this tavern brawl
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>>171787090
>swashburgle cards
>meaning anything

Enjoy getting your hand full of healing potions
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>>171787218
/hsg/bearers everyone
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>>171786976
lotus agents also exist
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>>171784324
But there are only 4 competitive decks. Each with what, one tech option?

>>171784353
>a competitive game
haha come on. If you want to spin your wheels every month for that "70% WR" thats fine, but don't pretend your some progaymer because of it.
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>>171786880
fuck off summerfag
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@171787218
Not even giving a you for something this retarded
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>>171787139
Please post results
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>>171787139
this is why they capped the damage you can do because otherwise the game would never end

but they should've made the cap way higher
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Finally, we needed to decide how much mana Quests would cost, either (0) or (1). When they cost (0), playtesting revealed that players would often hold their Quest and then forget to play it before playing the card that triggered it.
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>>171787015
>Enjoy losing the game with an empty hand
Doesn't actually matter when every turn you draw at least one 5/5
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>>171787416
Wait, you can't get more than 99 dmg in?
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>>171786692
easy
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>>171787537
after you go over 100 stormwind dies
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>>171787537
nope, as soon as you crest 100 it explodes

they needed to have some cap because otherwise this guy could just sit there forever with jade idols and fatigue wouldn't kill the opponent either
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>>171787270
Jade shaman
Aggro shaman
Miracle rogue
Water rogue
Dragon warrior
Pirate warrior
Anyfin paladin
Tempo mage
Reno mage
Jade druid
Combo druid
Zoolock
Renolock
Dragon priest
Reno priest
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>>171787525
>every turn

You do realize that the quest costs 5 mana? Its trash in aggro and only viable in control rogue.

If you get it out early, youre left with random cards which may or may not do jack. On top of that theres a 5 mana spell in your hand. Its impossible to play aggro from that point on.

Its only viable with control rogue in wild which itself is a rank 20 deck.
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>>171787763
>What is Prep + Counterfeit coin
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I don't think I've ever been this underwhelmed by new card reveals. It's time to quit HS
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>>171787853
Oh yeah, you only need two perfect topdecks on a row on top of the playable 4 cards from swashes.

Such a cunning plan master anon
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>>171787763
>complaining about mana costs for rogue
>not considering prep, coins
>not realizing you can put in novice engineer, making it literally a 2 mana 5/5 draw a card

There are so many reasons why you fail to see the potential of this quest
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>>171787673
Until the party boys get more than 210 hp ofc
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All the quests are gonna be terrible by default. Have fun losing a card in your opener and passing turn 1 as you get war axed to the face.
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>>171788201
How many 1 drops do control decks play?

Imagine playing only 1, 1 drop, and ALWAYS having it in your opening hand
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>>171788182
hm I guess you're right. If only you could combine infinite 1 mana blades of c'thun via brann/shadowcaster with jade idol to stave off fatigue.
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>>171787676
So you literally named everydeck? Go to VS, only 4 of those decks are seeing play at a decent rate. Clearly the one guy playing cuthun mill rouge won't be a problem most of the time
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How many hours until the HCT starts?
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>>171788445
Which 4? These are all decks I ran into during my 350 game climb to legend this season.
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>>171788383
You're right, jades need a buff or two.
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>>171788516
14
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>>171788516
HCT starts in 14 hours
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>>171788201
Priest already passes turn 1, and now it gets to tutor for a better unconditional Reno for free without losing card advantage.

Priest might suck, but the quest doesn't.
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>>171788619
>>171788637
thanks
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People who think this quest is unreliable, hard to complete or will empty your hand just didn't try simulating it. Right now you can just make deck with existing cards, leave first card in mulligan as if it is quest and try to play it out. Pretty much 100% by turn 7, more often around t5. Not needing to run coldblood, coins, leroy, auctioneer and all other unreliable garbage gives stupid amount of consistency in drawing 1 drop + 3 returns. It will be "patron is only a meme" debacle again.
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>>171788043
If Finja can make people run Bluegill and Warleader in non-murloc decks then I don't see why this quest cant make people run brewmaster and ferryman.

Warleader bricks just as much as Prep would in a aggro deck.
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>>171788034
Seeing Un'goro makes me feel so bad for you guys. The hype on this side is pretty much unreal.
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>>171788823
>hype for mahjong: skyrim edition
Keep telling yourself that
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>>171786837
Okay, I'll drop some easy-to-grab ones and then I'll go into the big interesting stuff
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>>171788750
Finja gives good value, most of the time. Sure it bricks but it isnt that often.

On otherhand with the quest you spend mana for doing shit and even then its abysmally conditional. More so than the murlocs.
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>>171788745
>people underestimated Patron
Yeah, and I can list every single reason why they were wrong, and each individual one is better than the combined reasoning of why this Rogue quest won't suck.
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>>171789000
>mahjong: skyrim edition
You're thinking of Gwent. Elder Scrolls Legends plays like Hearthstone.
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>>171788823
This card is cute meme but it's complete garbage, isn't it? 6 mana delayed draw, 6 mana 1/6 which dies to removal. What is even the point? Doesn't look like it would be good in control or aggro meta. And you should post different legs each time if you want more interest in ESL, it's same RNG autism: prophecy edition. HS is worse though, I agree.
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>>171788823
should I preorder this? I don't play ranked much at all currently because I don't have enough cards
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Havent played since grand tourney. Had a couple of questions.

Hit 16 with this deck. How do I get good?

Is it worth trying to update my deck now or should I just save everything I can and wait until after the next expansion?
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>>171789208
>dies to removal
le doom blade meme
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>>171789208
No idea but the mechanic is at least interesting and not adapt your murlocs shit. Also these are cards for the upcoming adventure so I can only post what's revealed so far.
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>>171788745
class cards are actually pretty easy to rate even before the expansion hits
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How the hell do you even survive 5 turns against the faceshitters playing your stupid pandas and shadow stepped swashburglars?
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Anyone here has tried Faeria? Currently playing it and having fun. Only problem seems to be the reward system
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>he didn't pick his US account to main 3 years ago and avoid price increase
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>>171785579
this is OC right?

if not post the crystal core
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>>171789395
Everything you had goes away into wild next month.
You're starting fresh.
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>>171789537
I couldn't wrap my head around the map conquering mini game.
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>>171789395
Remove anything that has inspire+pagle

Sub in antonidias and cheap spells for tempomage deck
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>>171789092
Biggest reasons people understimated patron was them not considering meta and understimating how retarded frothing berserker is. First one goes for rogue quest too and second one is just terrible. Rogue can win against aggro with just backstabs and si7 and it will run pirate package same way it does now. It will run less cards which only work if you go all in or draw auctioneer, which will make aggro matchup even better.
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>>171789537
I keep getting fucked by yellow bullshit

le no mana haste and carddraw and best removal in the game
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>>171789584
5 mana spell, all your minions become 5/5
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>>171789584
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>>171789584
>this is OC right?
Alright, this needs to stop.

We are on four days straight of card reveals being dismissed as OC.

That should not be happening.
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>>171789781
why is this a rogue quest reward? it makes no fucking sense

why not just equip a unbreakable dagger or make your hero power something crazy like 1 mana equip a 3/2 blade
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>>171789409
Not really a meme senpai. Biggest played thing in HS with no immediate effect is Ancient of War and it costs 5 sometimes, played in class with ramp and even then often fades out of meta.
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>>171789781
>a literal debuff most of the time
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>>171789781
>meanwhile druid is shitting out 30/30 jades
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>>171789990
>not tailoring your deck to it
Its like all you fuckers just copy paste tempo storm's list and don't even think once for yourself how to build it if you were to play this card.
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>>171789273
There is no reason to ever pre order anything. Ever.
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>>171789990
let me debuff my argent squire and 3 cost charge divine shield guy into 5/5 :^)
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>>171789932
>>171789584
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>>171789781
Why doesn't it just give your reward as 0 mana honestly, like this is so shit where you're essentially passing the first few turns bouncing shit back into your hand and replaying it and then playing 5 mana do NOTHING if you play it early on turn 5

The reward doesn't even seem to fit with rogue and will probably get put in the value rogue meme category along with Anub'arak and C'thun
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>>171789781
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>>171771959
I never realized how much Barnes looks like a Street Fighter character until now.
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What happened to Reynad? He doesn't seem to be all that relevant anymore. Only 5k views, he used to manage like 20k.
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>>171789537

If anyone has just started playing faeria, please throw me your email adress so you and I can get rewards.
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>>171790084
>3 cost charge divine shield guy
What are you doing in Wild?
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>>171790181
toast took his viewers
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>>171790181
>muh eceleb popularity contest
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>>171790031
>Druid quest: Summon 5 Jade Golems
>Reward: For the rest of the game, summon a Jade Golem at the end of your turn.
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>>171790181
He really hates this game. I think he only streams hearthstone because he still has some contracts in place or some shit.
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>>171789615
So everything is getting rotated out in april right?
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>>171790181
he started playing hearthstone less, thinking he was popular enough to continue being relevant

that is not the case
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Why is this happening now?
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>>171790191
It's from TGT, right? Always forget what playable cards are from TGT. I guess I'll just play bluegill or better charge creature from Un'goro.
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>>171790354
I noticed the same. It's pure coincidence, goy.
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>>171790191
playing the superior format
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>>171788043
>>171790146
Strictly worse than tidehunter when the buff is active
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>>171790191
playing brann + shadowcaster
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Would you play him, /hsg/?
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>>171790183
i used my real email FeelsBadMan
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>>171790767
Of course I would, I play Warlock all the time.
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>>171790767
Literally a worse chromaggus
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>>171790868

[email protected] send it here
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>>171789475
Use a heal minion instead of swashburg

You get 9 heal of a single farseer + shadowstep on 4.
You are right in that pirate warrior will still prove to be a problem unless rogue gets an aoe or enough early game taunt shows.
>>171789584
No its real.
It works similier to mistcaller. So edwins and such. still get all thier buffs afterwards.
>>171789942

It makes perfect sense. Rogue is about tempo, most of the cards they use currently all get buffed by this.

The only cards that get worse from the rogue lists are the following.
Nzoth - loses 2 health
Shadopan - loses 2 health
Leeroy - loses 1 attack, 2 in the big combo.

Every other card gets a big buff. It gives rogue the ability to midrange because every card of thiers past turn 5 is now decently statted and can survive most board clears.
If it works on summoned minions then shadowcaster, scrublords, arcanosmith, doppelgangster, moroes and violet teacher get a huge power spike.
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>>171776990
Seriously if this IS real this expansion is fake and gay. Nobody asked for it to be a murloc themed expac, we wanted DINOS and lizards and sludge and Linken and Elementals, not more fuckin Murloc queers.

>>171789932
It can't be helped, where is the hype? Ben Brode is doing a piss poor job developing hype for this. They just come out of nowhere.

Also I have no idea what I think of that Rogue quest it seems annoying as fuck to accomplish and broken as fuck if the deck is made correctly.
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-----NOT A DRILL------


PLAY 7 TAUNT MINIONS

GAIN 4 ARMOR AT THE END IF YOUR TURN FOR REST OF GAME.
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>>171790767
Too slow and value is too unreliable.
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>>171791180
source?
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>>171791180
This is warrior? Where is the leak?
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>>171791180
do you people not know that the rewards are all 5 mana 8/8s or 5 mana spells?
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>>171791371
The spell is 4 armor end of turn for rest of game, guy.
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HOLY FUCK WARRIOR LEAK IS REAL
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>quest log is full again
>have to actually play the game today
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>>171791463
I don't believe you
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>>171791538
kill yourself retard
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>>171786918
Meanwhile everyone else we've seen so far can do his quest and actually win the game outside of the dream scenario.
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>>171791180
>>171791538
>When Ben Brode wants to see a 64/64 Jade Golem in tournament play
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>>171787537
>>171787416
You can get over 2 billion damage in with Priest.
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>friend left his hs account on my computer
>remove reno from all his decks and replace with things like kabal courier and shadowflame
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>>171791849
Did you suck his dick later?
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>>171788131
And if you don't finish your quest in time the Novice Engineer is a 2 mana 1/1 draw a card.

The best case scenario is a retarded way to look at it. I bet you're the moron that thinks Cho is a perfect fit for Buffadin instead of cards that are good on their own.

Do people genuinely believe that the quest will work if you put trash in your deck and hope you pull it off by turn 3? Are you guys really this retarded?
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>>171791849
I like the way you do evil anon.
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Who was in the right here?

He was playing Jade Druid, I was playing Aviana Kun Maly Druid
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>>171792121
Did u milk yourself?
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>>171792121
thats hot
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I hate this fucking meta so much. Holy shit.
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Would you play this card?
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>>171792341
gain 2 what
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>>171792407
faeria
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>>171792121
>please fucking milk yourself
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>>171792121
>fucking milk yourself

Did you?
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>>171792308
Yep
It's cancerous as fuck
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>>171792775
>run malzahar
>get a yolo-saron
>enemy forfeits before I get the chance to even play it
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>>171792308
>>171792775
>>171792854
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>>171792854
>running malchezar
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reynad is now blaming twitch for him not getting viewers

kek
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>>171793009
Maybe he's just not fun to watch
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>>171792927
Gwent sucks, fuck off literal shill
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>>171792854
>malzahar
okay come on
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>>171793009
It's Reynad so he's probably right
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gwent is 2 players playing solitaire lmao

at least suggest eternal or cunnyverse
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>>171792927
I'm not playing your shit, neck yourself
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>>171793009
>he's still not legend

Damn son
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>>171792927
Why are CDPR fanboys so fucking rabid?

We know your boring, shitty solitaire rip-off exists and we don't care.
>>
is face hunter the best way to rank 5? currently midway rank 9
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>>171793495
no
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>>171793495
hunter doesn't have viable weapons
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>win lose win lose win lose win lose win lose

holy fuck

I've been one star away from rank 9 for an hour now
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>>171793105
>>171793353
>>171793151

hahaha holy fuck this defensiveness

absolutely amazing
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>>171793353
its just a few people that justify being bad at hearthstone by trying to convince people to play other games
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3rd leggo this week doing a pack a day. Wat is goin on.
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>>171793618
I've been rank 2 for a week
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>>171793495
Don't
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>>171793725
Don't tempt me, motherfucker. I need this gold.
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>>171793618
>get to rank 6, 5 stars
>drop back to rank 7, star
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
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>reynads "time to grind for legend cause i didnt play much the first half of this month" changes to "playing some shadowverse"
lmao man
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>>171793725
Damn when I was opening packs before saving golds I had like 2 lego (Raza and Cairne) in less than 24h and at least one lego per week.

I want to buy a pack now, you sneaky bastard.
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>>171793960
>another person not playing hearthstone
good for him
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>>171793960
post yfw reynad is the "cunnyposter" in all these threads
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>>171793725
fuck of blizzard psyops department
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>>171794025
Id hate that. Cunnyposter should be a cute girl or cute girl (male)
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>>171793925
>filling up every star slot does not grant a rank up
>you still need to win ANOTHER game for some reason
why is it like this
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>>171794264
>de-ranking takes away one additional star

WHY
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Is he truly, dare I even say it, /our guy/?
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so when exactly am i going to get those WOTOG packs for choosing my champion? after the person i selected is eliminated?
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>>171791849
holy fuck you are a monster
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Why is the rogue quest unplayable? Why do they hate that class?
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>>171794732
you got 1 WOTOG pack for voting for the person to represent your country

you get 1-4 MSOG packs for the HCT, so you have to wait another week or 2
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>>171794891
>Why is the rogue quest unplayable?

It isn't
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>>171791849
doing the lord's work
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>>171794891
>>171794951
its playable, and can be completed, its just trash because the type of decks you want to run it in are not good

run a bunch of cheap minions with battlecrys

you dont draw your bounce effects and lose
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>>171794907
No Un'Goro packs?
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>>171794951
Nigger, what? That card is awful.
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>>171792974
What's worse is this is actually a netdeck
It's composed of only basic and karazhan cards, but the guy (sheng) suggests Malchezaar in the basic+karazhan deck for almost EVERY class
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>>171794891
>Why is the rogue quest unplayable?
because 5 mana, the game is too fast for it
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>>171795041
>it's playable, the decks you're gonna put it in are bad

So. It's not playable?
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Let's invent quests for the other classes

>Druid
Gain 3 extra empty mana crystals before turn 10, reward is you get 13 mana every turn.
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When's the last date to pre-order un'goro?
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>>171795789
summon 8 beasts
something gay happens
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>>171795862
last day before the expansion comes out, but they havnt given an exact date on that yet
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>>171795789
>summon 10 beasts this game
>5 mana 8/8 Beast Battlecry: Adapt all of your Beasts (wherever they are).
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Whats the skinny on un'goro? Is it worth buying packs?
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>>171795789
Summon a 20/20 Jade Golem
Auto-wIn the next 3 games
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>>171796202
yeah
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>>171796202
Wait and see senpai
The cards do look fun, only problem is you wont be able to play them if pirates remain as they are, cant play anything that costs more than 5 fucking mana since the games over
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>>171795789
Druid Quest
>Summon 5 Jade Golems
>Reward: 5 Mana Spell
>Create a Jade Portal (Summons 2 Jade Golems every turn like the Warlock Portal)
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Is botting as a PW worth since people can recognize them if the bot can't concede after a stabilized board and they waste their time roping every turn like a retard? Even at rank 20 or something
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>>171797006
yes
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>Playing Aggro Murloc Shaman in Brawl
Shit's fun. More often than not I can do 100 damage and win by turn 6

Can't wait for Murloc Aggro Shaman to be meta.
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>>171796198
>this will probably be in
kek

>>171797006
I do it. Hell I almost have a golden warrior already
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why does dog get so many viewers?
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>>171798562
because hes one of the few "big name" streamers that still plays the game regularly
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kek
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>>171798705
if that's the case, why doesnt toast get more viewers?
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>>171797589
I typically play wild and the finja shit is starting to manifest into the tier 1 meta.

We will all soon bow down before our mighty murloc masters. What was once a cute meme is now the oppressor.
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>>171798905
racism
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>>171798905
He's at 10k now, which is average for him lately.
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>>171798876
the problem isnt reynad here
it's deadverse
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>>171776990
Fuck yes
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>>171798876
BTFO HOW WILL CUNTS EVER RECOVER?
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>>171799210
Youre an idiot

Reynad was always a cancer inducing manlet faggot.

Dog was always /ourguy/
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>>171799626
your new is showing, /svg/ shitter
reynad always was and always will be our guy, queerboy
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>>171799626
>Reynad met Toast on ladder on stream
>mfw Reynad got rekt and was raging the entire time
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>>171800076
>because reynad is a massive faggot that must mean I play /svg/

Holy shit your delusion is hilarious
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>Brawls that don't really tell you what the fuck they are, so you have to go in with a deck that'll probably be shit for it just to find out

Not telling you what it is when the decks are premade are one thing, just annoying like this
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>>171798905
opened a video he made once and the first 5 minutes were dedicated to talking about how great he was and how everyone loved him, really put me off. plus i still haven't seen him play in a tournament so hes essentially a literal who.
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>>171800076
>muh zoo

the only people who enjoyed reynad were literal shitters
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umm hey /svg/? feel free to fuck off back to your pedo general anytime. like right now.

thanks :>
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is reynad doing something with his camera or has his forehead always been this big? looks different
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>first game of fresh arena run
>opponent has Beardo and le new acquisition man synergy plus removal out the ass
>but my draft had no legendaries and I didn't draw my board clears HAHAHAHAHA
I can't even get freebies in my first couple arena matches any more, fuck this stupid game
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>>171798876
Just look at this handsome jew, how Reynad can stand next to him?
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>>171794891
The biggest benefit from the card you see is from your small stuff. While it does help Edwin and Questing a lot, it's not as drastic as with your small stuff.

To do the quest you need to drop many of your good tools in order to be able to play the same minion 4 times. You have basically 4 cards. Young Panda and the new guy. Old Panda is too expensive for this. Okay, 6. There is Shadowstep.

Panda and the other dude are shit. Shadowstep is better used with some good cards instead of your cheap stuff to get the quest done. If you get it done too early, you can't play the 5 mana spell. You would need a perfect hand to actually finish it fast. If you finish it too late, it doesn't help you at all.
If you put in minions that benefit form it greatly, you have shitty minions if you don't finish the quest. If you put in minions that don't benefit from it greatly, you wasted +5 slots in your deck for a quest that doesn't help you a lot.

You just don't need it. It's worthless in aggro Rogue, worthless in combo Rogue and could work in control Rogue if control Rogue actually existed. The condition is simply shit. It requires you to gimp yourself so that you can play a 5 mana spell that will make your deck barely as good as a regular Rogue deck without the quest. Warlock's quest gets done while just playing the game. Priest's quest gets done while playing a specific deck that isn't really that bad and the reward is freaking insane (but Jades...). This quest just says kill yourself.
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>>171795789
Probably forced beast synergy. Same as for Warrior forced taunt synergy. Rogue is bounce back just to point at 2 mana shit/shit combo:shit and say "See, it's a good card!".
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How many here actually still like and play the game? This general is overwhelmingly negative so I'm curious.
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>>171801878
i do my quests every few days although i let some of them discarded because i don't feel like playing. and i do the tavern brawl every week
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> Kibler will reveal new cards this Friday
> Check his twitter quickly
> Tfw this

Wow, I understand now why they release broken 1-drop and anti-control things
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>>171790474

Strictly worse than Bilefin when buff is active>>171801557
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>>171799626
>Dog was always /ourguy/
False.
Kripp is, the poll said so
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>>171802115
Kripp is /reallydirty/
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>>171802082
who cares
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>>171802115
False.
Based Kibler is /ourguy/. Everyone denying this is just a Shieldbearer.
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>>171801878
I finish quests. The end.
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>>171795403

>Thinking rogue, the queen of tempo removal, gives a fuck about your pirate warrior

*Backstab noises*
*shadowy whoosh noises*
*Heh, disguised toast noises*

The ironic part is rigues one even have to play their quest out against aggro warrior, all they have to do is keep stablizing and removing enemy board, and once they play their first refreshment vendor its gg
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Consider this for a moment /hsg/

Crystal core making everything a 5/5 means every minion ever with a cool/useful effect, but shit stats, is now useful becauae its a 5/5

Similar to how azure drake, despite being a 4/4 for 5 (relatively meh stats for cost) was always played, this is the inverse

What minions have you always wanted to play that just had shitty stats hindering them?

For example: madam goya is now a 5/5 that recycles a battlecry into your deck for 6 mana while summoning another 5/5

6 mana 10/10 "reuse a card later"
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Did team 5 made the rogue quest just to spite the people that rightfully took a fat shit on the ferryman fishman?
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>>171802115
>>171802180
>>171802325
Went back and counted the results for the "Who is /ourguy/ question on the last poll
Here are the tallies, Kripp is /ourguy/ for now, could change with the new poll.
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>>171802889
you just spam teacher students with it
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>>171803015
Kripp is /reallydirty/
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>>171802980

I dont understand the fisherman

I mean, hes another bounce effect sure, but shouldnt he have better stats than a youthful brewmaster?
And his combo effect can be a disadvantage. Surely the "flexibility" of the card isnt enough to warrant the apparant stat tax it suffers?
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>>171803015
trump is the best
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>>171803593
>not This Dick
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>>171803435
Retards defend it by saying combo is more powerful than Battlecry since you can decide not to use the effect by playing it first.
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>>171803435
no
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>>171804604
it's stupid reasoning. nobody in the history of hearthstone has played a combo card without it's effect going off and felt good about it.
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>>171805053
that is stupid reasoning
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Assuming pirates are still tier 1 when the expansion hits, will you be playing this card?
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>>171805413

Honestly its an amazing card for midrange hunter

>Pirates wont let me play aggro with them? FINE, TIME FOR SNIBBEDY SNAB
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>>171802889
The investment to complete the quest is big. Its not going to be easy to pull off. I look forward to experimenting but I think the card is going to be bad.
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>>171802889
That assumes you managed to clear the quest with a more or less positive state of the board for you. How did you actually manage to do that?
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>>171805413
Can we get a crab that eats a Jade golem as well
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>>171805413
I will be playing that card in my Pirate Warrior deck, yes.

Why would you play it in a non-pirate deck? On the 50-50 at best chance that you'll encounter a pirate deck and be able to make a moderately good turn 2 play shortly before they finish crushing your face?

In a pirate deck this acts not only as a good turn 2 play eating your own Patches but it also makes a great counter against other pirate decks so you can tip the scales in your favor in the face race.
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post your last pack

this one from arena
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>>171805896

The very nature of the rogue class is that they have tons of ways to control the board cheaply and efficiently

Backstab, eviscerate, sap, shadowstrike, si7, the hero power itself being a 2 mana deal 2 pings effect
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>>171806223

What cards will you take out for the crab?
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>>171806223
50/50 chance of being awesome is damn well good enough for me
Don't just assume it'll be used purely on one of the 1-healthers either. It'll be gold to gobble up the taunting one or the 3/4 I cant remember their names because fuck em
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>>171806491
And how are you going to complete the quest while you're using your mana on keeping the board control?
When do you think is the optimal turn to finish the quest?
What cards do you think are the best to finish the quest with?
When you finish the quest, what chance do you stand against the currently revealed quests?
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>>171800135
>>Reynad met Toast on ladder on stream
>>mfw Reynad got rekt and was raging the entire time
>got mildly upset that toast roped after casting a discovery card
>did nothing else
>autists here make mountain out of molehills
lmao
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>>171806223

Eating your own patches, is it really worth it? Sacrificing a 1/1 to give your 2/3 +1/1?

I dont think a 2/3 beast is worth playing on t2 over anything else a pirate warrior might do on that turn

Using it to beat out the other pirate decks in the mirror, however, is straight up devilish
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>>171803015
>Day9 has less votes than Millhouse Manastorm
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>>171806717
Yes, because it makes it resistant to pings and low damage sweepers, which is the common way to slow down the aggro player's damage, since all the low drop pirates have 1 health. It may very well be a thing.
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>>171806714
>autists here make mountain out of molehills
goddamn that irony
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>>171806998
>enjoy his jewtube videos
>hey I'll check out his twitch stream
>try to chat
>subscribers only
>unfollow jewtube channel
Fuck that guy
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>>171806998
fewer*
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>>171806717

Yes, stronger against shit like Maelstrom portal and the mage 2 dmg potion.
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>>171773764
>play against otk maly
>die
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>>171776990
OP if true
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So whats the opinion on the paladin 2 drop?
It's no Shielded mini bot that's for sure, but it does let you fill in any mana you might waste in the next few turns.
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>>171806660

>How are you gonna complete the quest while spending mana on board control

Prep lul
The same way as everyone else. /hsg/ seems to have gotten it into their minds that bounce effects are a straight up cost

I think you've forgotten how good bounce effects are at squeezing value out of a single card. Like generating lots of cards from swashburglar or getting lots of use out of a body before bouncing it and effectively healing it.

Besides, Crystal Core works best with cheap fast cards to buff them up to beefy 5/5s, with minions like that you'll naturally be proactive on the board

>Optimal turn

Bit of a silly point. Optimal is t2, with godlike draws. Realistically its as soon as possible, as long as you arent hanging onto the card you want to play 4 times like you're gonna play some kind of control combo deck (which, might actually be a thing, but who knows)

>What cards are best to finish the quest with

Value generating battlecards with cheap costs
Aka Swashburglar or say OUR TOWN SCRUB so you get value just out of bouncing the card anyway.

>How does it stand against currently revealed quests

You cant really compare the quests ina vacuum, they're all gonna take different lengths of time to complete, and look to accomplish different things

Priests is a "Dont die" card aka super reno they'll want as soon as possible against aggo but will likely hold against control

Warlocks is an infinite value permanent that will win long games

Shamans is a power refresher to stop murloc decks running out of steam, aka hard and fast style minion that also reloads your hand

Paladin looks to be some kind of janky super minion to use buffs with, not sure how that will play out

Rogues is a "Play a certain combo, be rewarded with a strong buff that makes all your little combo pieces crazy
strong, so you can keep pulling off value generating comboes without sacrificing board presence
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>>171807842
It's ok? I'd need to see more in terms of new murloc synergies since anyfin isn't a thing anymore, and secret synergies. It's a kinda shitty 2 that has value, or on 3 you can play the secret the same turn. There may be some niche it sees play.

Good arena card.
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>>171807842

>Play grimy goons murloc t1
>Play 2 mana 3/3 discover a secret murloc t2
>Play 3 mana 3/2 discover a murloc murloc t3
>Play warleader with a secret t4

Curvestone paladin is back bois
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Fuck Standard

>pirate warrior
>jade druid
>dragon priest

How original. What deck counters all three of those? If I make a deck that beats two of them, the third always kills me. What do?
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2 mana 2/1 divine shield
How good is this?
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>use fan of knives
>draw backstab
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>>171808173
>Priest does their quest and boost back up to 40 fucking HP
>your Anyfin Cant Happen with a board totally fucked of shit murlocs
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>>171807946
>Prep lul
So you will have Prep, backstab, eviscerate, Shdowstrike and SI:7 all in your starting hand as well as cards with bounce back effect and Swashburgler? Just how big is Rogue's starting hand?

>Besides, Crystal Core works best with cheap fast cards to buff them up to beefy 5/5s, with minions like that you'll naturally be proactive on the board
Except those cards are mostly shit if you don't cast Crystal Core and every time you draw one of them instead of the other useful cards, you have a dead draw.

And it's pretty easy to compare the quest in a "vacuum" as you call it, despite there not being a vacuum. Priest quest will obviously be run in N'Zoth Priest. Deathrattle cards outvalue your "value" cards fom start to finish. They get a 8/8 with taunt and heal for up to 39 health. Good removal and insane value with N'zoth that will outright win them the game against you.
Warlock will play Discolock. Better early and mid game than your's because you sacrifice your early game to clear the quest. "Infinite" value later on.
Shaman's is ridiculous. Easy to finish, decent early and mid game with a reward that outright negates the weakness of murloc decks, which is running out steam.

Rogue's quest is unplayable. You gimp your deck in the hope of finishing the quest fast to ungimp it. It's a deck that will work out as often as Shadowcaster/Ancient One. Except it's not retardedly fun when it works out.
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>>171776309
but the game litterally says only 1% of the players get to my rank
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>>171776990
>cc1
>1/1

BRODEEEEEE
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>>171808727

Considering all you need is shadowstep, and mimicpod is a decent enough draw anyway. Its not that hard to pull off desu especially since its just 4 minions with the same name over the game.

If no decks can be found its because rogue itself is a shit, gimped class like hunter and paladin.
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>>171809719
>over the game
keep in mind the game lasts for 6 turns YOU DUMB NIGGER
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>>171807842
It's bad by current standards.

It's a strictly worse Dark Peddler in a class with considerably less draw and card availability than Warlock to begin with.

Even comparing across classes this card needed to be a BETTER peddler to match up to that powerlevel because Paladin already has very little draw power. The fact that it can only give you garbage Paladin secrets just makes it a joke along with the rest of Standard Paladin's cards.

Also it's another Paladin murloc with absolutely no murloc synergy other than a tribal tag AND another Paladin card with absolutely no synergy with other Paladin cards.

It's terrible and if you think anyone is going to be playing some janky-ass Murloc Paladin deck in Standard with the high power level, far superior Murloc support Shaman has received this expansion then you're a fucking moron.

Anyfin is leaving. Paladin is getting shit cards this expansion. Face it, the class is fucking dead once rotation hits.
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>>171807842
pretty good
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>>171808174
Wait a month
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>>171810106

Every expansion is the same shit.

Shitposters and doomsayers circlejerk over thier naysay about muh x aggro deck will destroy all synergies, because they're too stupid to ever find a use for them.

Then when that new deck comes along that abuses some of the new expansions synergies, those same shitters just bandwagon going "I told you so, l-look at the aggro! HS is cancer XD"
Even though aggro, midrange and some late game deck will always exist til the end of time because its the basic principle of ccgs that even a shit game like HS abides by.

You wonder why these threads are dead when you wont even discuss how a new content can be used without masturbating to the current fotm deck?
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>>171808174
you can't counter everything idiot
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Dominating Dragon Priest arouses me
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>>171810713

>ancient of lore
>bgh

what year is this
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>>171806312
>52

My last pack was ass.
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Making a Waifu deck

Post Waifus that work for Rogue
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so what is the deal with crystal core? a bunch of frozen ancient animals/dinos that give your minions power? how does this even work?
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>>171810686
and then aggro comes and FUCKING MURDERS YOUR REDDIT DECKS

EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME

YOU DUMB NIGGER
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On the upside, this Tavern Brawl is excellent for finishing pretty much any daily quest pretty quickly even if it is just a re-hash of a previous Brawl with a stupid theme clumsily photo-shopped onto it.
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>>171811106
>furry
Die.
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>>171811106
Shadowcaster and Aya Blackpaw are the only two waifu minions Rogues can play specifically.

Unless you meant neutral and spell cards too.
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Do you win anything from beating this brawl?
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>>171811521

Neutral and I am doing 10 spells as well

Sticking to 1 Waifu card only for no dupes
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>>171811780
yes
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yo link me some aya hentai lads
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>>171811239

>reddit

That word alone is proof that you are the scum of vg.

You care too much about your shitty pol memes and identity politics so you can false flag and masturbate to your epic secret club fanfiction.

My entire point was that even the aggro uses new synergies, nothing stays exactlynthe same so there is no point in just circlejerking "B-But MUH aggro".

Most of the decks made in this general were janky casual decks using wierd themes and seeing how far they could take them. Reincarnation shaman, Fleet decks, Minespam, Mill, Shadowpriest, Niggerpriest, Ice spells only Mage, Alliance and Horde only decks, Bomber warrior, Yogg n load hunter.

It was mainly reddit who constantly talked about and made hearthpwn and tempostorm competive cookiecutter decks. No shame in competitive but get your goddam facts straight you uncultured newfag swine.
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>>171811825
Then there are more than enough neutral waifus to make the cut, which ones you put in should come down to your personal preference.
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>>171811106
I made a waifu priest deck once. Lots of good girl class cards, and a girl class legendary.
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>>171811106
Why people like Aya? Her ingame image is downright ugly and voiceacting although nice isn't really anything special.
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>>171772656
>kelthuzad
>belcher

Apply yourself
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>>171813091
Furries anon. They've invaded this general. You can thank Gadgetzan for that one.
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>>171772064
>don honcho will be the most broken of the gang legendaries
>patches isn't even worth mentioning
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>>171814773

/hsg/ thought Malchezzar was the most broken card in Kara.
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>>171808260
Garbage unless you add tribe tag
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>>171815163
Liar
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>>171805896
>That assumes you managed to clear the quest with a more or less positive state of the board for you. How did you actually manage to do that?
You need 4 minions of the same name. Those minions are all Si:7.
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>>171810374
>It's a strictly worse Dark Peddler in a class with considerably less draw and card availability than Warlock to begin with.
That's spot on. Dark Peddler in paladin would be extremely powerful but volatile since crappy secrets are still there. Now that Competitive Spirit is rotating out I don't see what it's good for. Infinite Kodo/Redemption revivals, Noble Sacrifice? Remaining secrets are pretty lame.
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>>171815163
Stop making up bullshit, fellow redditor. Kripp and r/hearthstone/ make the worst predictions.
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getting pretty sick of blizzard putting discover on half the cards these days
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Reminder that this card will be the counter to elemental decks.

Like a mini loathab for minions.
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>>171815664
Discover is the only successful mechanic Hearthstone created. Of course it's their posterboy mechanic stapled onto each card now.
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>>171815664
>people like Discover because its manageable and decently predictable RNG. You can usually play around Discover back when it was introduced due to it being a rather specific card
>Blizzard completely misses the point, making Discover so broad that its now impossible to play around Discover RNG

I fucking hate blizzard
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>>171815708
>Reminder that this card will be the counter to elemental decks
Did you forget about shaman weapons and AoE?
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>>171815708
How come that situational effect warrants reduction in stats? It could become a playable card as a 2/3 or 3/2.
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>>171815750

>tfw Inspire died prematurely because it was tied to Joust when they threw the latter off a cliff

RIP Paletress, the one true cardfu.
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wow what a cool... uh... rogue quest... uh thanks... ben brode
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>>171815502

>conveniently posts a chart without Malch
>when there literally was one with Malch top 10

Fake News.
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>>171815843
>play wraith the turn before an elemental deck can play it's big elemental card (example: shamans on turn 7 or 8 when they want to play their new legendary)
>card now suddenly costs 1 too much mana and can't be played that turn, have to wait to set up the 2 turn elemental trigger again

This is why I'm the theorycrafting genius and you're the netdecking angry chicken anon.
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>>171815874
>>tfw Inspire died prematurely
They could add card tapping effects but it's too confusing for new players
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>>171815831
thanks reddit
pretty fucking annoying that over half my games i play against some faggy casino cards whether they be swashburglar, kazakus or maelstrom portal. and now we'll get to discover random adaptations because it still doesn't feel enough like that shitty randomonium tavern brawl
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>>171815935
>says there literally was one
>doesn't post it
ok
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>>171816079
>>play wraith the turn before an elemental deck can play it's big elemental card (example: shamans on turn 7 or 8 when they want to play their new legendary)
If they played an elemental last turn, why can't that elemental kill your 2/2?
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>>171816232
It only costs 2 mana. You should hopefully be able to clear their board then play it.
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>>171816232
The point is to clear then play it. You would still have 4 or 5 mana to do so.
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>>171815874
Inspire is admittedly really hard to balance. Not that it's a good excuse to just give up on it completely, but I can understand them wanting to move on in theory.
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>>171815708
Loatheb was actually a good card, and it countered all decks to a certain extent. Counter cards are shit.
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pre order xD
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>>171817479
I wouldn't mind a 3 mana 1/1 that made all minions played by the enemy next turn cost 3 more.
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>turn 1 6/6 van cleef
>2 games in a row
>from 2 different people

fuggg
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>>171771959

me me big barnes
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https://strawpoll.com/sry3df5

I'm interested to see what /hsg/ thinks, pls take.
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>>171783073
>Forget to end turn
>instictly go to hit "Sorry" emote
>End up being a sarcastic cunt going "WOW"

I really want my goddamn sorry emote back
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>>171818819
I don't. Every single voice-line for it dripped with disgusting smugness.
Thank Yous are just as bad
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>>171788823
why would they give this fucker serious art? in game he was the most annoying little goblinoid asshole
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f2p here, which legendary should I craft when I get my free Rag dust?
>mal'ganis for my meme wild Krul deck I play for fun
>fandral for jade druid I tryhard with but don't really like playing much (gotta get that legend tho)
>bloodmage thalnos because he fits in every deck
>one of the new quests
>some meme bullshit
My only other legendaries are Krul and Aya fyi
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>>171792121
report him and say you're black
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>>171783073

I'll chip in another 100 if you get him to demand an option to automatically disable your opponent's hover, that shit is obnoxious
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>>171801498
dog is cute! CUTE!
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>>171806312
>gvg pack
i'm still mad that i opened mine, even if i did open a golden mogor
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>>171816087
I would bet good money they'll introduce an activated ability mechanic on minions that takes the place of their attack
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>expansion is about to come out
>threads are still dead
What happened?
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>>171808174
is dragon priest even tier 1?
also the answer is aviana+kun druid teching cenarius
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>>171819904
nothing which is the problem
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>>171810713
Holy shit I enver thought of putting Mountain Giant in my Astral Druid for those games where I don't draw the combo early

Thanks bruv
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>>171819904
weird how blizzard is showing so many legendaries already. what's funny is the "meh" reaction from everybody
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>>171820437
The reaction has been positive enough for some of the cards. The problem is the current game state.

You can't have a fun expansion when Gadgetzan still exists.
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>>171820639
too bad most of the postivie reviews have been shaman cards. it might be shamanstone for another expac if they get anymore early game cards.
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>>171820437
Nah the reactions are "it will die to pirates" and "can it beat jade?" MST is the strongest set even printed. If you need proof the wild meta is literally the standard meta with a belcher thrown in.
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>>171819904
Lifecoach saw at least the un'goro cards, possibly the following expansion as well and said it's more of the same shit.
From what we have seen thus far, he's right.
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>>171819820
They could've done it years ago but we got Inspire which is obvious replacement for such abilities. The same crap with tutoring, if Hearthstone has a deck order why not implement it? It would make people happy, increase deck building options immensely and provide more design space for filler cards. We got 6/3 pack filller instead.

Something is missing here. If they could've done things which benefit everyone and their pockets, why woldn't they do that? Maybe they actually can't?
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>>171819904
Boring legos that don't affect current horrible meta from what we can see right now. Which means we have to wait for the expansion after this one in the vain hope the game improves (it won't).
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>>171819904
Its 8 am in the morning thats what happened
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>>171822218
Ah, you're from the Muslim timezone.
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*plays all of my class exclusive cards that are the most powerful of their type in the entire game*
greetings friend
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>>171776990
too bad its just boring murloc again, but thanks anon, thats nice hsg gets its own reveal again
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>>171822893
B-but they're balanced because you have less mana to use next turn
I mean, unless you used enough such cards to pass the mana-debt on for as long as you need...but who would do that
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>when you queue into a mill rogue as jade druid
Oh you have 20 copies of coldlight oracle to play? That'd probably be pretty bad for me if I didn't have a 100 card deck.
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>>171824112
I'm glad they made jade idol, because playing a mill or fatigue deck requires skill and obviously we can't have that in a children's card game. Those decks just had to be removed.
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>>171824354
>use removal on enemy minions
>play coldlights
>use all card duplicating effects on coldlights
>play more coldlights
wow such strategy
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>>171824524
it's more skilled than the vast majority of other decks in HS

>describe what deck does
>say wow such skill
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>>171824354
such a stupid argument. Just because some decks have good matchups against other decks doesnt mean skill is taken out of the game
>b-b-but if I play a noble skillful deck I should have no bad matchups! why doesnt blizzard think about holding my hand through life more :(
>>
>brawl against AI
>can do quests off of it since it's still a brawl

Hello 4 days of free gold.
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>>171821930
I've heard blizz is so attached to the UI at this point that it's limiting their design options. Deck order, shuffling etc can't be intuitively displayed in the current UI and we all know they'll never put in features that could confuse new players
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Tell me this is okay.
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>>171824954
Please tell me how to do this as Rogue without any epics or leggos for the class. I can't manage it.
>>
Anons how do we create
>Control Rogue

Blizzard thinks its possible, there must be a way
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>>171825142
At some point they will realize that they're losing their current playerbase at the cost of the new players who may or may not stick around.
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>>171825412
Don't you tell me that's okay.
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>>171824896
Agreed, I really enjoy rock-paper-scissors, which is why I'm playing jade shaman which just shits on druid literally every game.
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>>171825318
"warlocks get worse class cards because of their hero power"
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>>171825353
I'm pretty new (started a month ago) and I'm already tired of it. I hear my friends talking about past expansions when everything wasn't rng bullshit and I'm bummed that I'll never get to play that hearthstone. I'd have spent money on those expansions but I have no incentive to now because no meta deck is even fun to play

Also fuck their stance on new players, why do they think everyone is so retarded? I figured out every mechanic within a few days of starting. Would a couple complex mechanics really be so hard for new players to learn?
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>>171825658
>past expansions when everything wasn't rng bullshit
they're either bullshitting you or their memory is selective
the very first expansion after naxx started promoting RNG in general with cards such as flamethrower, unstable portal and so on
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>>171825658
We had only 9 deck slots for years and they literally said they couldn't give us more because it might confuse our tiny brains.
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>>171825658
Its a card game for children, blizzard itself has stated this. Wer are not the target audience.

>>171825784
Yeah, and mage was only one that got em. Now RNG is fucking everywhere
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>>171826068
>what is piloted shredder
>what is goblin blastmage
>what is knife juggler
>what is ragnaros
>what is sylvanas
>what is mc tech
>>
>>171825336

Well if Warlocks get free shit for discarding them, rogues should get free shit for minions returning to hand.

>If this minion should return to your hand, instead, give it +1/+1

Makes Vanish a playable board clear if you have ~4 minions like this. Knowing how Blizz loves to push archetypes, failed or not (beast druid), they could shove 4 minions like this into an expansion.

Makes Youthful Brew and Ferryman cheaper Shattered Suns at best, which are unplayable. So a conditional 2 drop getting 3 drop value is "balanced" if they're fine with shit like Alex Champ.
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>>171826173
You can control 5/6 of those
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>have saved up gold
>every now and then spend a few hundred on an impulse just to see what I get
>now down to 300 right before the expansion
I'm not the gambling type, but this is frustrating
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>>171826497
Bullshit. It was always rngstone, take off your nostalgia goggles.
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>>171826880
Force me fucboi
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Bahama's is today?
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I just pre-purchased Journey to Un'Goro.
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>>171827102
why
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>>171827120
I'm gonna lose a buttload of cards when they get trashed into Wild and Un'Goro seems to be kinda promising for now, or at least it will be meta defining.
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>>171826492
Buffs that activate when a card gets bounced will never happen because of hearthstone's spaghetti code. Blizzard is too incompetent to implement a way that tracks how often a card has been bounced.
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>>171827251
>Un'Goro seems to be kinda promising for now, or at least it will be meta defining.
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Can anyone confirm that the pre-order prices are going up in EU? Big chart with prices changes didn't mention pre-orders. Being specific enough to mention everything except pre-orders puts uncertainty into mind.
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>>171827367
You may be laughing at me now, but you'll see. Asides from maybe Pirate Warrior and Jade Druid, everyone will use the new Un'Goro cards.
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>>171827448
when is it happening again
>>
>>171827448
Pre-order prices are not going up for Un'goro. We don't know about next expansions and pre-ordering Un'goro will obviously be impossible when the expansion comes out, though.
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>>171827462
And will be thrashed BY Pirate Warrior and Jade Druid
Either everything changes or nothing does with MSG decks
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>>171827059
in 4 hours and 40 minutes
you DUMB FUCKING ANIME POSTER
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The nerfs obviously didn't do shit for the meta because they want fewer people to play to get ~40 gold from wins a day so they'll be forced to pre-order instead of piling up gold
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>>171827251
>>Un'Goro seems to be kinda promising for now, or at least it will be meta defining.
>>
How do people not have all the cards yet? I remember when the hayday $10 promotion was out I got like 200 packs. Good times
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>>171828040
Some of us don't care to put ANY real cash into this game
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>>171802009
>People that don't even know the game playtest
This is why competitive is a joke. If you don't watch the monopoly wcs, why would you watch HS.
>>
>Some of thr cards are this broken in Ungoro
Just wait for the last two!
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>>171827507
Why can't they just confirm it

They confirmed every other price for changing, why leave out pre-orders?

I'd be a good goy if pre-order prices remained unchanged, but if they are going up, I'd rather stop spending money now.

I guess 1 argument for pre-ordering this expansion is that it seems OP as fuck.
>>
capped at 99 godamn blizzard this could actually have been fun
>>
>Warlock is the only class that got a legendary that has a synergy with the quest
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>>171828803
>beast
>>
Why are fucking hunters running starving hyena? It's a fucking shit card stop using it, no fucking list uses it what the fuck
>>
>>171828803
i really think they just did this because people complained warlock didn't get a portal on karazhan
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>>171828873
t. got rekt by a hyena
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>>171828872
>Getting mad about original decks
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>>171828872
Its fine, you can combo it with kittens so it isnt completely trash desu
>>
>kolento gets horrible short haircut
>chat teases him
>"i think my haircut is fine... it'll grow back..."
>"i don't like cutting hair... takes time..."

truly /ourguy/
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>>171828934
>>171828949
Shut the fuck up retards. It's so fucking bad to lose to a shit card just because you didn't expect it because there is no reason you should
>>
NEW BREAD:

>>171829053
>>171829053
>>171829053
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>>171829060
If it's unexpected and effective because of it, then it's not such a shit idea to use it after all, is it
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>>171829060
>Losing to a bad card
>Getting mad people aren't netdecking
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>>171829114
>>171829164
Fucking poorfag retards
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>>171828872
>synergy with kittens
>synergy with BETTER TO EAT YOU WITH

NO EXPERIMENTATION ALLOWED
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>>171809719
Bounce Rogue is still shit, mate. This quest doesn't make it better. It just makes people want to try out Bounce Rogue.

I'd try out the quest if rogue gets more cards that create the 1/2 elemental.
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